Here’s Why Carbon Credits Are Such a Scam

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here's a fun sports story that sort of trends into
one of the stupidest ideas in radical environmentalism, the idea
of carbon credits. There was this movement that is becoming
I think more and more discredited nowadays, although I don't

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know how discredited. It is certainly discredited by folks on
the right, but I think folks on the left are
even more intelligent and honest. People on the left are
starting to pay attention here that it's this concept called
carbon credits where basically celebrities, rich wealthy people involved in

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various kinds of industries. In spite of the fact that
a lot of rich, wealthy celebrities are far more environmentally
concerned than mere mortals like you and I, they wind up,
because of their work and the prominence of what they do,
they wind up using a lot more carbon than you

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and I. So as a result, there's the inevitable backlash
of who the hell are you to criticize normal people for,
you know, owning an suv or wanting air conditioning in
their house when you live in a twenty thousand square

(01:31):
foot mansion that's quite well air conditioned, thank you very much,
and using a ton of energy, or you own multiple
homes that are using a ton of energy, or you
fly around in a private jet like Taylor's Swift. People
have made fun of Taylor Swift and the Kardashians for
do you know, taking extremely short plane rides on their

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private jets to get from you know, one part of
Los Angeles to another part of Los Angeles, and just
the enormous amount of fossil fuels that one private jet
flight consumes relative to just driving somewhere or flying commercial.

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And as a result, celebrities feel bad about this, so
they are trying to find some way to sort of
rationalize their behavior. John Kerry, you know, wanting to find
some way to rationalize his behavior, and so they develop
this concept called carbon credits carbon offsets, where basically it's

(02:38):
this idea that you can invest in things that will
do stuff that offsets the carbon emissions that you're doing
by flying in a jet, and it's usually in the
form of donating to some kind of charity that's allegedly

(03:00):
going to be planting trees somewhere, and the idea is
that well, yes, that is going to offset the carbon
harm of taking a private jet flight is going to
be offset by this carbon credit to invest in some
project planting trees somewhere in Africa or Brazil or something,

(03:24):
and the trees, you know, the trees contributing to the
health of the environment, will offset burning jet fuel that
is detrimental to the environment. Now, this all gets presented
as this very like science, you know, very by the

(03:44):
book scientific, rigorous thing, and I think that's just a
total hunk of boloney. I'm not sure that. Yeah, planting
a couple of trees offsets burning however many you know,
gallons of jet fuel it takes to make a completely
unnecessary flight, you know, from lax to the airport in

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Orange County. So this is a long standing thing on
the left. One of the entities that was doing this
for basically operating like a green bank, a sort of
a clearinghouse for people to pay for offsets and then

(04:30):
commission entities to plant trees for those carbon offsets was
this company called Aspiration Incorporated, and he was founded by
two guys who were very heavily tied in with the
Democratic Party. One of the two founders of the company
was a speech writer for Bill Clinton, and he was

(04:53):
like the youngest speechwriter ever, the youngest presidential speech writer. Ever,
so he's still a relatively youngish guy. I think he's
only in his late forties or something. And the company
has in the last couple of years, it's pretty much collapsed.

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It went into bankruptcy. It was not delivering on all
of the carbon offsets that was promised. It has all
these creditors now that it had to file for bankruptcy,
and the federal government, the Department of Justice, is now investigating.
It started its investigation even before the Trump administration. So
I mean that's how, you know, so obviously corrupt, so

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obviously in a bad way that even the Biden era
Department of Justice is investigating this thing now. Apparently Steve Balmer,
who was the former CEO of Microsoft under bilge Or

(05:58):
he was a major big wig at micros Soft from
its early days along with Bill Gates and Balmer again,
who was in on the ground floor at Microsoft. Balmer
is one of the richest men in the world by
some measurements. He's like the sixth richest man in the world.
He's got a net worth of over one hundred billion dollars.

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He's also the owner of the Los Angeles Clippers, the
basketball team, and there's this whole story that he basically
circumvented the NBA salary cap rules to pay his star player,
Kawhi Leonard, through this alleged green energy company. Now, let

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me describe this guy, Kawhi Leonard, this basketball player, and
it's part of also this weird culture of liberal's favorite sport,
the NBA. Sports writers for some reason love the NBA.
And when you do a demographic examination of the political
breakdown of people who watch different sports, conservatives, I mean,

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NASCAR is probably the most has the heaviest share of
Republican viewers. College football is leans pretty far to the right,
baseball leans fairly far right, or baseball is a little
more to the center. The NFL fan base is maybe

(07:33):
a little less conservative than the college football fan base,
but clearly the of the major sports in America, the
most liberal leaning fan base is the National Basketball Association
the NBA. And I'm not sure exactly why that is.
The NBA is not as popular, probably in the South.

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They just aren't very many basketball teams in the South.
That the culture around basketball is more predominant in the Northeast,
which tends to be more liberal, in Los Angeles, which
tends to be more liberal. A lot of the NBA's
big tent pool franchises are you know, the Lakers, the Celtics,

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the Knicks. You know, these are very liberal cities, so
the NBA tends to be more liberal, and sports writers
and sports broadcasters spend a way disproportionate amount of time
talking about the NBA, way disproportionate to the NBA's actual
viewership numbers, which are not great. The NBA was doing

(08:46):
better when Lebron James was more dominant and sort of
at the center of things, but their viewership numbers have
sort of declined as Lebron has got gotten older and
Steph Curry has gotten older, and they don't really have
I mean, there are good players coming up after them,

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but they're not really super marketable yet or they haven't
really caught the public imagination in the same way that
Lebron and Steph Curry have. And you know, Lebron and
Steph Curry being prominent, I mean that that has kind
of contributed to the liberal vibe of the NBA. The
NBA being is dominated by African American players, as they
had they really leaned into the whole black Lives matters thing,

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a lot of prominent people in the NBA are super
left wing and sort of aligned with Democrats, like Lebron,
like Steve Kerr, the coach of the Golden State Warriors.
So there's the NBA gets talked about way more in
sports media than I think it deserves. I think, way

(09:53):
more so than its viewership would suggest. I think that's
in part because the NBA season is so long, and
sports writers are just more interested in the NBA than
they are with Major League Baseball, and you know, major
League Baseball is kind of declining in viewership. The only sport,
I mean, the sports that really matter right now are football.
It's college football in the NFL, that's it. And they

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have a relatively short season. There's just not much happening
in football from you know, February to September. So the
NBA winds up taking up February, you know, eating up
television time and the amount of time people talk about stuff.
From about February through July, people constantly talking about the NBA.

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All right. One of the big problems in the NBA
is this weird phenomenon of players not wanting to play.
There's this weird culture that started in the NBA of
just resting guys the idea of being well rather than
if you insist on your players playing the full complement

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of an eighty two game season, well maybe you're going
to wear them out over the course of the regular
season and they won't be as fresh for the playoffs
or you know, for a run to the NBA Finals.
So this concept of load management came into vogue. And
as the NBA there the contracts that their players have,

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they have guaranteed contracts in a way that the NFL
players don't. NFL players can get cut in the middle
of their contracts in the way that NBA players can't.
So when after an NBA player signs a contract, they
have a little bit less of an incentive to play hurt,
you know, to sacrifice for the team and play hurt
and really give it their all. There's no risk that

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they're going to lose out on the money in their contract.
So this combination of teams wanting to do this sort
of quote load management, plus players almost taking this sort
of attitude of not really wanting to play through injuries,
it's led to prominent players missing more and more and

(12:08):
more and more games in a way that just didn't
happen kind of in the nineteen nineties era where you know,
when Michael Jordan was playing, and Jordan played, I think
he Jordan had a lot of seasons where he would play,
you know, seventy eight, seventy nine out of eighty two games.
Now you're getting these prominent NBA superstars who you know,

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you're lucky if they play sixty seven games out of
eighty two, and nobody has exemplified that more than this guy,
Kawhi Leonard. Now, Kawhi Leonard is one of the more
surly and unlikable guys in the NBA. I would say,
just from afar, he's a great player, zero personality, but

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a very good player. He won. He's won two different
NBA Championionships with two different teams and was the NBA
Finals and MVP for both teams. He was on a
Spurs team that beat Lebron and the Miami Heat, and
then he won a title with the Toronto Raptors where

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he beat a very good Golden State Warriors team, although
it was a Warrior's team that had some pretty serious injuries.
So he's a very very good player, and at various
times he's been thought of as if not the best
player in the league that you know, one of the
top three players, but not a marketable player at all.
Very little personality, super shy, super quiet, and after he

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had some injuries, was super reluctant to play practically, he
missed whole seasons with injuries. Was extremely cagey with his
team about what injuries he had, Super uncommunicative when he
was on the San Antonio Spurs, super communicative about like

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what he was going through, what injuries he had, wouldn't
show up, wouldn't communicate with the team, force his way
out of there. Eventually he winds up with the LA Clippers.
Now Steve Balmer is the owner of the LA Clippers.
He also wants to build a new stadium, the Into

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It Dome, which he finally gets built and which opened
for its first season last year. Basically, the Clippers had
been tenants at I guess now it's called the Crypto
dot Com Arena for a long time. It was the
Staples Center, the Staple Center, which was the Lakers' main stadium,
and the Clippers were always like the second rate tenants there.

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They would always get the lesser game times that it
was always them. You know, basically borrowing the Lakers space,
and the Clippers have always been in the shadow of
the Lakers in La Balmber wanted to change that. He
buys the Clippers and he's basically wanting to give them
a new identity. He buys, funds himself a whole new

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beautiful basketball arena, the Into It Dome, and he needs
a star player to be there. Now, it was always
people were always sort of wondering, like, why did Kawhi
Leonard want to go to the Clippers. The Clippers are
this lame franchise, always sort of in the shadow of
the Lakers. And when we return, I'm going to explain

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how it seems that that may have happened. The combo
of Steve Balmer, his investment in Aspiration, the green carbon
credit bank now under investigation by federal investigators, and breaking
the NBA's salary cap rules for Kawhi Leonard to basically

(15:57):
do a no show job. That's next on the John
Gerardi Show. There's this bizarre story rocking the sports world
where in the NBA, the Clippers seem to have broken
all the NBA's rules by using a green carbon credit

(16:19):
company to pay one of their players under the table.
Let me explain. So, as I talked in the last segment,
there's this green quote carbon credit investment company called Aspiration. Basically,
it was this thing where celebrities would pretend like they
were offsetting all of the carbon they were using in
their private jets by giving money so that people can

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go plant a couple of trees in Africa or something.
This company was formed basically to do that for companies,
for individual celebrities to give them money and they would
go commission people to plant trees. One of the big
investors in this company, Aspiration, was Steve Balmer, the owner

(17:02):
of the Los Angeles Clippers. Steve Bamer wants good players
on the Clippers. People aren't that interested in playing for
the Clippers. Okay, if you're going to go to LA
to play basketball, who do you want to play for?
You want to play with the Lakers. It's a cooler franchise,

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it's a more successful franchise. It's far and away the
more popular franchise in LA. So how did this happen? Well,
it seems that this is what happened. This reporter named
Pablo Torre, as part of the bankruptcy proceedings for Aspiration.
Aspiration completely went under its under investigation by the FEDS.

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It had listed that they owed seven million dollars to
an LLC controlled by this basketball player for the LA Clippers,
this guy, Kawhi Leonard, and the They found the contract
that existed between Kawhi Leonard and this company, Aspiration. It

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was an endorsement deal. Kawhi Leonard was going to be
paid twenty eight million dollars over four years to endorse Aspiration.
Now this is weird because the contract basically didn't require
Kawhi Leonard to do anything. If asked, he would do this.

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If asked, he would do that. If asked, he would
do that. Basically, Kawhi Leonard could do absolutely nothing to
actually endorse Aspiration and he would still get paid this money.
The only thing he couldn't do was not play for
the LA Clippers. If he played for another team, got
traded to another team, got bought out by the Clippers,
was playing for another team, the deal was off, he

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wouldn't be paid that money. This is while Aspiration's biggest
investor was the owner of the Clippers, Steve Balmer. So
basically what it looks like was happening. It's not one
hundred percent confirmed, but it looks like Steve Balmer was
breaking the NBA's salary cap rules all right. The way

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the NBA works is that there's a salary cap, and
it's to try to achieve some kind of competitive parody.
In the NBA, every team can only spend a certain
amount of money. If you didn't have a salary cap
in the NBA, then just the wealthiest teams would just

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get all of the best players, and you know, the
Indiana Pacers would never have a shot at winning a title,
or you know, basically every title would just get won
by the Lakers and the Knicks and the teams that
have the most money, or the Clippers because their owner is,
you know, ten times wealthier than all the other owners.

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So it's one of the kind of cardinal rules in
the NBA is that we have a salary cap and
you're limited by the salary cap. You can't exceed the
salary cap to gain a competitive advantage. And there was
always these questions about how Kawhi Leonard, one of the
best players in the NBA, two time NBA champion, how

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and why he decided to go play for the Los
Angeles Clippers. And now we maybe have an answer. Steve Balmer,
the owner of the Clippers, was a major investor in
this company called Aspiration. Aspiration pays Kawhi Leonard of all people,

(20:42):
to be its spokesperson. Kawhi Leonard never speaks. Kawhi Leonard
is the most surly, non communicative, non talkative, not charismatic,
like famously not charismatic personalities in the NBA. He hates
doing interviews, he hates showing up republic of He doesn't
do it. No, he's famously not communicative. They give this

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guy seven million dollars a year for four years Aspiration, which,
by the way, some of their investors include such charismatic
good in front of the camera people as Leonardo DiCaprio,
Robert Downey Jr. Other famous and charismatic people. Why are
they paying the famously one of the most surly, non charismatic,

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non communicative, non marketable NBA players, A guy whose best
endorsement deal he could get was with New Balance, not
with Nike, not with Adidas, not with like a real
like prominent shoe company, New Balance. Why were they giving
him all this money? It looks like to circumvent the

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NBA's salary cap roles, so that basically Steve Ballmer really
really wants his team to be better. Steve Baumer's this
psycho competitor. He wants his basketball team to be better.
So he gets this really good basketball player to come
play for him with a sweetheart under the table deal
of throwing the guy an extra twenty eight million dollars

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through the shell company of basically through this phony baloney
green energy credit company. So this raises some real questions
about competitive fairness in the NBA as well as just
these left wing green companies. Some of these left wing

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green enterprises I think are so shady. I think the
whole concept of the carbon credit offset is ridiculous. I
think it is. Frankly, it looked like money laundering from
the start, and I'm really wondering if that's if there's
some massive money, if that's how the Clippers were using

(23:08):
this company, I wonder if a bunch of other people
were doing the same thing. Anyway, I thought that whole
story was just absolutely fascinating. When we return, why is
Robert Kennedy Junior the most popular Trump Cabinet member? Next
on The John Jardy Show, Robert Kennedy Junior is being

(23:29):
subjected to intense scrutiny in the media and publicly, their
calls for him to resign, calls for President Trump to
fire him. He's fired a bunch of people from the
leadership at the Centers for Disease Control. People former heads
of the Centers for Disease Control are absolutely up in

(23:51):
arms about his basically desire to get rid of various
kinds of vaccine mandates and questioning a whole bunch of
established conventional wisdom regarding vaccines. And I want to sort
of talk about why it is that Kennedy is actually

(24:12):
not all that unpopular in spite of the sort of
media storm and drawing that's happened over the last week
or two. Now, I've realized that the stuff that is
agitating the left is not really capturing the popular imagination
in the ways that it used to. Apparently, over the
Labor Day weekend, and I was completely unaware of this
until the last day or two, there was this whole

(24:35):
thing that was happening on liberal social media outlets like
like Blue Sky and on sort of the remaining liberal
side of Twitter, this whole conspiracy theory that President Trump
had either had died or was dying, and this insistence
by people on the left that President Trump is looking
bad or that it looks like he's in serious some

(24:58):
kind of experienced some kind of serious decline in his
physical health and like posting pictures of him, said look
how terribly he looks. And I don't know. I'm just
looking at these pictures that they post and it's like
two people looking at the same picture and getting the
exact opposite reaction out of it. I don't know. I mean, yeah,
President Trump doesn't look young. I don't think he looks

(25:21):
any different than he did at the start of his term, though,
doesn't seem to be looking any different, acting any different.
He had that bruising on his hand which he talked
about he was having something with it, and I think
they had some statement from the White House doctor about it.
But apparently that was a whole thing over the Labor

(25:41):
Day weekend and I just completely missed it. Now, So
so anyway, these media and left driven narratives I think
are just not capturing the public's attention or imagination the
same way. And I don't think it's capturing with RFK Junior. Now, yes,
here's the problem. I am inclined to think that much

(26:07):
of what RFK Junior, or at least some of what
RFK Junior says or things about vaccines is not right.
I don't know that there's really this straight line connection
between vaccines and quote autism. Frankly, I'm a little skeptical

(26:28):
of the whole concept of autism right at the very least,
that we put under the umbrella of autism a lot of,
you know, the whole concept of the autism spectrum that
basically we put under the category of autism, things that
range from you know, some kind of mental, social whatever

(26:48):
disorder that that makes someone incapable of speech at the
one end, nonverbal and you know, some sort of mental
handicap to that extent, versus a kid with some behavioral
issues that would never have been categorized or diagnosed as
anything twenty or thirty years ago. That is the result

(27:11):
more of I don't know. I think it has a
lot more to do with poor parenting, excessive media consumption
on the part of the kid being plugged into a
smart a screen, a smartphone screen, or an iPad screen
for their entire life, and a steady diet of sugar.
I don't know, I don't think it's really rocket science

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to think that the stuff that I don't think the
mild end of the autism spectrum is basically the same
thing as mild add which is the same thing as
that it's not really a real thing. That these are
things that have been sort of medicalized and maybe shouldn't

(27:54):
have been. Just my take, I think we are medicalizing
things that aren't really medical problems, and maybe their behavioral
problems maybe the result of stuff that are environmental things
rather than something actually physically wrong with someone. And so

(28:15):
I'm always unimpressed when people say, well, the incidence of
autism has increased by you know, twentyfold since you know,
over the last thirty years, and then trying to tie
that to vaccines. Well, no one diagnosed kids like that
with autism thirty years ago. What are we talking about,
or you know, forty years ago. Whatever. We're way over

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diagnosing people with things that we're calling autism today that
we just didn't call autism thirty forty years ago. I
don't know that actually the behavior of children hasn't necessarily
changed now. On the flip side, I've talked with number
of very reasonable doctors, very reasonable pediatricians who think that

(29:02):
the vaccine schedule for babies is too much, too soon,
too intense. The fixation, for example, on giving like newborns,
the hepatitis B vaccine right away, which isn't necessary to
do right away because of this sort of public health
sort of nanny state, is attitude of, well, basically, we

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can't trust these you know, these loose women mothers to
not you know, be sleeping around and you know, giving
hepatitis be to their babies. Or we can't trust that
this little girl's gonna grow up to be a hussy
and get hepatitis beast, So let's give her a vaccine
right now, while we've got her, while she's you know,
while the mom is delivering the baby, right after the

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mom has delivered the baby. I find the insistence on
that to be kind of bizarre. I think there's a
lot of public health strategizing around vaccine that is premised around,
you know, poor people are irresponsible. Poor people don't go

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to the doctor enough to give their kids what's necessary,
So we got to load them up with vaccines in
the limited window we have them when they're super duper young.
And I don't know that that's it makes sense for
that to be the normative the sort of attitude that
poor people are stupid and don't go to the doctor,

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which is a bit of an elitist attitude, and and
I'm there's a lot to criticize about that in the
first place. Quite possibly, I don't know that it's good
for that to be the norm that we apply to everybody. Okay,
especially if you have a patient who is, you know,
totally fine with taking their kids for annual pediatric checkups

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and can spread out the vaccine schedule a little bit.
It kind of makes sense. And even I remember talking
with my mom about this, my mom, who's a physician,
about you know that when you have a newborn baby,
if health problems start to develop, of course you're going

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to look at vaccines as maybe being responsible that there's
when you have a newborn baby, there's just been relatively
very few sort of inputs into their system other than
introducing this vaccine into their system. You know, they just
haven't had much time out and about in the world,
relatively speaking, to be exposed to all the kinds of activities, interactions, influences,

(31:40):
food sources, germs that you know, I'm exposed to as
a thirty seven year old man. Now, so I now,
with that said, I don't want to see an outbreak
of measles, you know, among public schools, and you prevent

(32:04):
that through herd immunity and vaccines to stop measles, or
that's a good thing. Now, I don't know that it's
necessary to have maybe like a chicken pox vaccine. Chicken
pox is not a very deadly thing anymore. I had
chicken pox. It was a not very fun you know day.

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You have chicken pox once and you're done. So I
don't know. I find I find this the vaccine sort
of schedule, that there is stuff to criticize with the
conventional wisdom around vaccines. Whether Kennedy goes over and above
that beyond that, I think is quite likely. But here's

(32:47):
the problem. It's the problem why when you actually do
pulling about the popularity of various Trump cabinet officials, Robert
Kennedy Junior is more popular than jad Vance, He's more
popular than Marco Rubio. He's like, actually, you know, his

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favorability rating is right around President Trump's. Why. I think
a lot of it has to do with COVID. All
of the people right now like these former Centers for
Disease Control heads who are screaming about Robert Kennedy Junior.

(33:29):
And look, I'm not you know, I have not pledged
allegiance to mahaive not pledged allegiance to Robert F. Kennedy.
I'm not saying everything he does is right now. Frankly,
I would have been happier with I mean, my big
concern has been with the abortion issue, and so I
would have preferred an HHS secretary with a sterling record

(33:49):
on that who is going to aggressively restrict MiFi pristone
and do all the kinds of pro life things that
I want to do. And then I've got a lot
of complaints about how it doesn't look like the Trump
min strations doing much to regulate the abortion pilm. But
here's the problem. The whole medical establishment that was running

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the Centers for Disease Control, the FDA, etc. Prior to
Kennedy absolutely beclowned themselves during COVID, where they showed that
they were not about the science, that they were creatures
beholden to politics, absolutely susceptible to the concept of regulatory capture,

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where you suck up to the companies that your government
agency is supposed to be regulating. I mean, how many
former heads of the FDA go on to become members
of the board of directors of Pfizer and other of
these huge pharmaceutical companies. Way too many, frankly, there. I
feel like there should be some kind of way to

(35:08):
prevent that from happening. And I mean during you know,
let's not forget a lot of these people from the CDC.
These were the same people saying everyone needs to be
locked down, everyone needs socially distanced. Well, unless you're protesting
for Black Lives Matter, then gathering an enormous crowds altogether

(35:30):
is fine. The same people who were like, okay with
shutting down a park, but wanted you to go protest
for Michael Floyd. Yeah, those people demonstrated they were completely
full of it. Those people like they engaged in these
massive campaigns against hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin seemingly a hundred percent

(35:58):
purely because Donald Trump said something nice about them. That's
one hundred percent seemingly what it was. I don't trust
the public health quote establishment, whatever that is. I Anthony
Fauci demonstrated himself to be a deceitful operator for years.

(36:26):
Francis Collins, the former head of the CD of the
National Institutes of Health, a sleazy, slick, highly politicized operator.
I don't trust any of those people. And that's the thing. Like,
it's hard for the left to act like there is

(36:47):
a settle. This is an apolitical thing. There is settled, established, smart,
responsible public science that we need to follow, and Robert
Kennedy Junior is destructing that, destroying that whole edifice. It's
hard for them to make that claim after the last
five years when they completely destroyed public trust in what

(37:09):
they do. So again, I'm not saying I'm happy with
everything RFK Junior is doing, but I don't know how
they have a leg to stand on. When we return,
we are going to talk a little bit about the return,
blissfully of the NFL. Next on The John Gerardy Show,
an NFL game is being played tonight. The NFL is

(37:32):
finally back, guys. I know the NFL and all that
stupid woke stuff. I like football. I'm very glad football
is back. It gives me something for the weekends. I
got to do a fantasy football draft with all of
my buddies from college the other day. It was great.

(37:53):
We're all happy or interacting guys. I know, the nfls
woke whatever. Let me have this pleasure. Let me have
this pleasure. Okay, I know, I know Bruce Springsteen's woke,
and I still like listening to his stuff. I know
Alec Baldwin's woke. I still love watching his movies. Let
me have this as one of those little guilty conservative
heresy pleasures. That'll do it. John Girardi Show, See you

(38:13):
next time on Power