Kamala Bails on California Governor Bid: Saving Her Cackle for 2028?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Kamala Harris not running for governor of California, and I
want to think through what that means. First, I want
to toot my horn. I called this. I thought that
this was going to happen back in April. In fact,
I called this. I had an article in National Review

(00:22):
on National Review Online in which I said, Hey, I
think the fact that Javi or Basia is getting in
this race is an indicator that Kamala Harris is not
going to stay in the race. Basically, I just thought
that Bessarah was a big enough candidate that basically, uh

(00:48):
Besarah was a big enough candidate and was connected enough,
connected enough, nationally connected. You know, he was a cabinet member.
He was a cabinet member for the largest cabinet position
in the Biden administration. That's the thing people don't realize.
Secretary of Health and Human Services is overseeing a bigger
budget than any other member of a president's cabinet. And

(01:12):
we sort of treat the Secretary of Health and Human
Services as if it's not that important relatively speaking, and
it's actually like the in some ways, it's the most
important cabinet position as far as dollars because it's overseeing
Medicare and Medicaid, as well as a gazillion other things. Now,

(01:34):
the basically, if Besara was jumping in, it made me think, well,
Javier Besara is not a total dummy. Well, that could
be argued. He had a TV interview in Los Angeles
a couple months ago, back in April, in which he
seemed to indicate that he had actually no positions of

(01:56):
his own and that he would just hand over his
entire governorship to listening to the experts and doing what
they had to recommend. But as far as politics, I
don't think Javier Basra is some babe in the woods.
I think he knows what he's doing. He's a very
successful politician. He had been a member of the House
of Representatives for many years. He got elected Attorney General

(02:18):
of California, and then he got himself a position with
the Biden administration as one of the top cabinet secretaries.
Bisarah jumped into the California governor's election, and I don't
think he would have done that lightly. I think he
would have done that sniffing out the donor class and
what they think about things, because this is a thing

(02:43):
with California Democrat politics, and I think Democrat politics in general.
We saw it. We saw it on full display last year.
The donors in the Democratic Party have a greater handle
on things and can dictate the course of events for
Democrats in a way that it was demonstrated Republican donors

(03:06):
can't really dictate things for Republicans. If the Republican donor
class could dictate things, Donald Trump would never have become
president in the first place, and he probably wouldn't have
become president again in twenty twenty four. If the donor
class had its way, anyone other than Trump would have

(03:27):
won in twenty sixteen, and probably Ron DeSantis would have
won in twenty twenty four. But the donor class in
the Republican Party just doesn't have this way. The donor
class in the Democratic Party does. They were able to
engineer some really fishy, suspicious things to get Pete Boodagig

(03:49):
and Amy Klobashar to drop out of the race in
twenty twenty right at the perfect opportune time to sort
of pave the way for Joe Biden and eliminate for
a lot of the Democratic donors. They viewed as the
internal existential threat of Bernie Sanders, and then in the
twenty twenty four election, the donors unfathomably, inconceivably we're able

(04:16):
to orchestrate removing Joe Biden mid stream in favor of
Kamala Harris. So Democrat donors have enormous power, and they
have enormous sway over the California gubernatorial race and other
California state wide races. Right to win a statewide race
in California, you can't really win it just on the

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strength of, Oh this person's a great talker. Oh, this
person's so persuasive. Oh, this person is such a good orator.
Oh this person has such good policy ideas. You very decisively.
You need to have the backing of the donor class. Why, well,
you need to run TV ads and you need to

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run television ads in the Los Angeles television market, which
is crazy expensive to do. If you can afford that
and get the name recognition because a lot of California
statewide politicians have very low name recognition. If you can
get that kind of money, then you can win. And

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the magic circle of Democrat donors, many of whom are
kind of based in headquartered in and around San Francisco
and Silicon Valley. That's the money you need to tap into.
I don't think it's a coincidence that a very large
percentage of our prominent politicians have been Bay Area politicians
rather than Los Angeles politicians. Harris Newsome, even senators like

(05:55):
Feinstein others. Being connected to those centers of Democrat money
is really important. Why was Nancy Pelosi the Speaker of
the House for so many years? Why was she the
Democratic leader in the House for so many years? Why
does she continue to have even though she's no longer
the Democrats the minority leader for the Democrats. Why is

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she still such an outsized important force for the Democrats?
Was a clearly was a key player in getting Joe
Biden to drop out in twenty twenty four, even though
she was not the minority leader at the time. Hakeem
Jeffries was why because Nancy Pelosi where what district does

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Nancy Pelosi represent? The right in the middle, the heart
of San Francisco, that's her district that she represents, and
she is the link between the Democrats and the donors.
So if you don't have the donors backing, you're not

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gonna run. And a lot of the California statewide donors
are also big time influences nationally for the Democrats. They're
also big time donors nationally. Again, it's not a coincidence
that Kamala Harris became Joe Biden's vice presidential pick. It's

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not just that Joe Biden couldn't find another black female.
He could have picked other black females. Now, he somewhat
boxed himself in by saying, I'm picking the first black
female vice president, so he immediately limited his pool of
people whom he could pick. But he could have picked

(07:40):
someone like Susan Rice, longtime key Obama cog within the
machinery of the Biden of the Obama administration, who knew Biden.
Biden made Susan Rice a fairly important person within his
administration after he was sworn in. He could have picked her.

(08:04):
There there were other people he could have picked, But
he picked Kamala Why well, I think the donors forced
her on him. I think that's the only explanation that
makes sense, just given that Biden had no reason to
like Harris. In fact, he had many reasons to dislike her.

(08:27):
They had never worked together, they had never overlapped in government,
she entered the Senate after he left as Vice president,
so they never worked in the Senate together. They never
worked in the Obama administration together. He had no prior
history with her, and in the twenty twenty debates, the
primary debates, Harris basically called him a racist to his face.

(08:50):
There were all kinds of reports even before the great
switcheroo in twenty twenty excuse me, the great switch u
in twenty twenty four, that Jill never really liked her,
And clearly Jill was very influential in all this. I
think Harris was the choice of this donor class, and
this donor class that has been at the root of

(09:11):
Harris's success, of Gavin Newsom's success. And one of the
things we started to hear over this last week that
probably should have been a brighter, flashing light indication of
where this was going. You had all these stories starting
to get published, all these leaks coming out saying yes,

(09:35):
if Kamala Harris runs, she would obviously win. She would
obviously win the governorship. But Democrats nationally have bigger fish
to fry, They have bigger problems. Their main concern is
they need to take the House of Representatives away from
Donald Trump and the Republicans, and the road to taking

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the House runs through California. Democrats have to hold on
to a couple of key swing districts that they barely
won in twenty twenty four, like Adam Gray's seat up North,
Adam Gray barely beat out John Duarte. And the Democrats
want to take a couple of key swing districts that

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Republicans barely won, like David Valdeo's seat, and there are
others all up and down California. California is maybe the
key state for whether or not Democrats are going to
take the House of Representatives. And all of a sudden

(10:39):
you get all these narratives, all these media stories, these
rumblings about oh, well she do it or not. Uh
seems like maybe she will, but that if Harris runs
for governor, she's going to have a reverse turnout effect. Basically,
her name recognition is so high, her negatives among Republicans

(11:01):
are so high that there's a thought that she will
actually spur Republican turnout in California. Now, it won't be
enough for her to actually lose, She'll still win comfortably.
But I will say, as a Republican living in California.

(11:21):
I would crawl over broken glass to vote against Kamala
Harris for governor. I'm not sure that I'm as excited
and motivated to vote against say Elenni Cunilacus. Who's e
Lenny kunilacus Us. She's the lieutenant governor of California. Okay,
So she just does not spur the same kind of

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Republican anti enthusiasm. And all these narratives were getting pumped
up in the media. Oh, Kamala Harris might spur Republican turnout.
Kamala Harris, my spur Republican turnout. Kamala Harris might super
Republican turnout. You then had, like the day before yesterday,
a news story got published with Willie Brown, Willie Brown

(12:09):
being interviewed in which he's saying, I don't think Kamala
Harris should run. Now. Willy Brown is ninety one years old.
He is still, though by all accounts, fairly sharp and
with it. And as we know, he had a relationship
with Kamala Harris once upon a time. In fact, it
was maybe the key decisive relationship in Kamala Harris's career,

(12:34):
given that it was from there that her political career
was launched. She was a no Harris before that, was
working in the Alameda County Prosecute an attorney a district
attorney's office, and was a prosecutor. Nothing wrong with that.
She becomes Willy Brown's girlfriend, and Brown then appoints her

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to two different California State Assembly like appointed positions. All
of a sudden, she's in the San Francisco DA's office,
she's getting leadership positions in the San Francisco Day's office.
She's getting elected San Francisco DA. She runs for mayor
of San Francisco. She's on her way. She runs for

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District Attorney of San Francisco, she runs for Attorney General.
She's on her way. All right. Willie Brown is saying
I don't think she should run. And what's critical is
Willie Brown at least was the lynchpin forgetting that big

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time California Democrat donor money, the magic circle of big
time Democrat donors in the San Francisco Bay area were
that was Willy Brown's base of support. It's how Willy
Brown introduced Gavin Newsom to this circle of powerful people.
It's how Willy Brown introduced Kamala Harris to that big
circle of powerful people. So here you have Willy Brown

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out saying I don't think Kamala Harris should run. You've
got all these narratives Kamala Harris could hurt the Republicans.
And then a couple days later, Kamala Harris comes out
and says, I'm not going to run for governor. Now
when we return, Kamala Harris's personal insecurity, I feel, seems

(14:22):
to shine forth even in this decision. Next, on the
John Girardi Show, Kamala Harris announced she's not not running
for governor of California, and even the news accounts covering
it seemed to me to give a little insight into

(14:44):
her insecurity about this. Here's a story written by Jasmine
Wright and Samuel Larreal Lariel, I don't know for this
outlook called Notice News of the United States, which is
this new kind of left I mean is pretty much
every news outlet it's left leaning. It's this new left

(15:05):
leaning news website called NOUS News of the United States.
Kamala Harris won't run for governor, and clearly they've got
some sourcing from Kamala's camp. Based on the whole tenor
of this. The article reads like this. Former Vice President

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Kamala Harris announced on Wednesday that she will not run
for governor in her home state of California. She hinted
at continued involvement in national politics, including helping elect other candidates,
and said that quote for now, she would not seek
elected office. By staying out of the race, she is
opening the field for a roster of smaller profile Democratic
candidates and raising questions about what she will do in

(15:48):
twenty twenty eight. Now this skip down, okay. Harris moled
for months over whether to run. As she considered her
path forward, sources close to her told notice, sources close
to her, okay, so they've got sources inside Kamala's camp,

(16:11):
maybe Kamala herself. She kept her next step closely guarded
until Wednesday, even as California politicians publicly called on her
to make a decision so the race could effectively begin.
Over the past six months, I have spent time reflecting
on this moment in our nation's history and the best

(16:31):
way for me to continue fighting for the American people
in advancing the blah blah blah blah blah Harris Center's statement.
Many in her orbit viewed her next steps as a
binary choice. Either she run for governor and forego an
opportunity at another presidential run, or she skipped her home
state run with an eye toward the next presidential cycle.

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So we're reporting that many people in Harris's orbits, close advisors, whatever,
were saying, you either run for governor or you run
for president, which everyone kind of figured was her choice.
About a month ago, Harris convened a small team of
advisors in Los Angeles to weigh all her options. According

(17:13):
to a source familiar with the meeting, the options included
running for governor, not running to keep twenty twenty eight open,
and ending her career as an elected official altogether. While
a now, this is the silly, the silly shading of
the reporting. While AIDS presented her with information, they sought

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not to influence her decision, and ultimately Harris made it
on her own, the source added, What an insecure thing
to have to add. Clearly, this source is insisting that
this detail that Harris made the decision on her own

(18:03):
and that she wasn't influenced. She wasn't the AIDS weren't
trying to influence her decision. Well, of course they're trying
to influence it to a certain extent. You're trying to
give her all the information. None of her aids had
any opinions. I'm always suspicious of this, any kind of
news story that's like, well, a non partisan committee was

(18:24):
gat Who is this non partisan person? I'd love to
meet him. There's genuinely just non partisan people out there,
people just walking around, pure tabula rasa, no political opinions.
Her aids had no And also who are her aids?
What aids does she have? Just who pays them? It's

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not like she's got she's not an elected official, she
has no office that she's holding that includes a government
salary to pay these people. So are these just friends confidants?
So it's reporting they didn't try to influence her decision. Well,

(19:09):
really they're not giving her I mean any giving someone
of pros and cons is meant to influence the decision.
It's to give you more input, more information to help
you make the decision better. And then they have to
include this detail. Ultimately, Harris made it on her own.

(19:30):
Harris made this decision on her own. Now, the fact
that they have to report that it just seems so meaningless. Well,
obviously she made the decision on her own. It's not
like her husband bonked her on the head and dragged
her unconscious, and Doug m Hoff said sent out this
press release that I'm writing for, and no one's suspecting

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that everyone thinks that she made the decision. No one
would have thought otherwise, So why do you insist on it?
It makes me really think that she didn't make the
decision entirely on her own. Again, I'm not saying that
Doug m Hoff bunked her on the head and dragged
her body away and wrote the statement for her. What
I'm saying is probably some power brokers in the Democratic

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Party gave her some very pointed input that probably influenced things.
The observation. Again, all of these observations were floating around
in all kinds of news stories, commentary. CNN had a

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big story about this a couple days ago, all these
different news outlets about how Harris might actually not be
a great person to run and that a lot of
Democrats were not really very enthused about her running, in
no small part because they thought she would gin up
Republican turnout in the twenty twenty six elections, which Democrats

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need to win a bunch of House seats in California
if they want to take the House of Representatives. The
fact that if this story just hadn't said that she
made the decision on her own, I would have believed it.
I would have believed that she made it on her own.
But the fact that it's in there, it makes me

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think even more that she didn't make the decision on
her own. I think the donors who are always the
gatekeepers to political power in California on a statewide basis,
you can't you can't win without their okay. If they're

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not going to fund you, you're not gonna win. And
I think those donors, who are also big time national
Democrat donors, they probably probably told her gently, hey, maybe
you should focus on another presidential run, build up your brand,

(22:00):
build up your image for a couple of years. You're
not looking so hot right now as far as your
political standing in the state. We think that you could
actually hurt Republicans, hurt our chances with these house races
in twenty twenty six. So why don't you, You know,
you got a lot of time, let's focus on a
twenty twenty eight bit. I think it's impossible to think

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that she didn't consult with donors before making this decision,
and of course that would influence her decision. It's amazing
how even in this story that they cannot help but
reveal her insecurity that whoever this source was for this

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story felt very pointedly that that point needed to be made. Oh,
she made that decision herself. That all the more makes
me think she didn't really make the decision herself. When
we return, we'll revisit the man who is most benefiting

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from Harris's decision to step back, Javier Bsera, likely our
next governor. That's next on the John Drowardy Show. The
person who most benefits from Kamala Harris backing out, the
person now with the clearest I think path to victory
in the California governor's race is Javier Besera. And so

(23:35):
I want to talk about him a bit. And I
was texting with someone yesterday. My gratitude that Kamala Harris
will not become my governor is highly tempered by my
despair that Javier Besera will. So let's talk about Javier Bsera.

(23:56):
Some of you my peace, Javier, who Javier Basara one
of my least favorite people in all of American politics
and aggressive pro abortion partisan. In fact, when Joe Biden
nominated him to serve as Secretary of Health and Human Services,
it was actually it was a real puzzle. It was

(24:16):
one of the few things that Republicans sort of tried
to stop in the Senate for the confirmation process. Unfortunately,
Democrats had I forget if they had fifty one seats
or yeah, Democrats had fifty one seats, so it's not
like Republicans could stop it. Basically, Republicans raised the objection

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to Bessera as HHS secretary by saying, hey, why are
you making Hobby You know, we understand you want a
liberal to run HHS. Why are you making Hobbier Basera
the head of HHS. The man has no relevant experience
with anything having to do with health or human services, Like,

(24:59):
why why are you making him AHHS secretary? He was
a state attorney general, he's a lawyer, he was a
member of the House. He has no connection to healthcare
in any way, shape or form. And the only thing
that Democrats could really point to is well, he has
a real, long, storied history of advocating for legal abortion.
So that was Besara. I actually wrote an article on

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Besarah for National Review back in April, and one of
the things about Bessara that I thought was ridiculous was
his open campaigning for himself as governor of California on

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the grounds of I am going to do what the
experts tell me to do. I'm going to do what
the experts tell me to do, and that's it, no more,
no less. In fact, here was let's see, do I

(26:05):
still have the link to it? Here we go, all right?
This was a television interview that Javierbasara did with a
local newscaster in Los Angeles KTTV Fox Channel eleven and
their anchor Elex Michaelson, and he sat down with Javierbasara
and he had this exchange with him about housing affordability.

(26:30):
Let's listen to some of the things your next governor
in all likelihood Javierbasera had to say about housing and affordability.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Too expensive to live in California for a lot of people,
right that housing affordability, it is all the rest of that.
But whose fault is that? Because Democrats have had a
super majority in Sacramento for decades now run every statewide office.
Isn't that the Democrats fault.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Well, it's a growing issue we've had. Remember we've had
Republican governors as well.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
At Holmes. Okay, first of all, stop the tape, Michaelson
with some great questions. Hey, we have all these affordability
problems housing, but Democrats have run things for the last
you know, decade plus. Isn't it their fault? But Sarah
answers with a dodge, it's a growing problem, which doesn't

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justify things. He then says, oh, we've had Republican governors too. Oh,
you've had fourteen straight years of Democrat governors. Like, what
are you talking about? Oh, oh, George Duke Majian remember him?

(27:44):
Remember Reagan? Yeah, yeah, Okay, I think you know, it's
been a long time since Arnold. Okay, Arnold left office,
you know, start of twenty eleven, end of twenty ten.
We continue.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Schwarzenegger was elected in two thousand and six.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
I guarantee you homes in California two thousand and six.
We're too expensive back then.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
You know, but it's gone up a lot in the
last twenty years.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
We have not tackled it the way we should. And
I think principally the reason we have This issue in
California on prices is because we haven't built enough, and
that means it.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Wow, such great insight. The reason we have these prices
because we haven't built enough. Yes, the problem that everyone
has acknowledged and no Democrat has fixed.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
We continue, it's a type market. Everyone still wants to
come to California. People may be leaving, but there are
a whole bunch of people who would love to be
at a live in California.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
But that makes no sense. People want to come to California.
They may be leaving, but a whole bunch of people
want to come to California. Well, is it one or
the other? Our population has declined over the last like
six years or its growth has been incredibly tiny, especially
in comparison to Texas, North Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, Florida, all

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these other states that are just booming population wise. In California,
it's anemic. California's population is only growing because of immigration,
a lot of it illegal immigration. Anyway, We continue with
Alex Michaelson from Fox eleven Los Angeles interviewing Javier Basera.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
From a policy perspective, what specific change are you proposing
that would be different than the status quo right now,
that would make a difference in make prices less in California.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, all right, that is the question from Alex Michaelson,
and it's a This is the key, Javi Orbsera, you're
running for governor. Democrats have controlled everything for fourteen years,
fourteen and a half years. Housing affordability has been terrible.
It's been Housing prices are extremely high. We haven't built enough.

(29:58):
You Vier, Sarah, you are running for governor. You are
a serious person. You're a lawyer. You were Attorney General
of California. You were a member of the House of
Representatives for years and years and years. You were Secretary
of Health and Human Services. You have a functional brain
in your head. You hobby Arba Sara. What would you
do to fix housing affordability in California?

Speaker 3 (30:20):
I can tell you that status quo business as usual
is not on California California voter's mind as the thing
to do. And so I think all of us are
going to be talking change. But here's what I would do.
I would take the experience I had having to lead
this country at the Department of Health and Human Services
out of a pandemic a once in a lifetime pandemic,

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having to negotiate for the first time in our history
the lower prices for prescription drugs of some of the
most expensive drugs that are seniors.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
On medical He's stalling. He's talking about something that has
nothing to do with the question at hand. He's trying
to brag about his accomplishments as HHS secretary negotiating low
drug prices. The question posed was what would you do
differently from prior governors to lower housing costs? Take the

(31:10):
experience I had leading the country during COVID. No one
thought he was the leader during COVID. Take that experience.
How how is that experience relevant to getting housing costs lower?
He continues babbling on.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
The care program have to use. I would say, you
need to bring the problem right to the table with
the best experts there. You scrub it, and then whatever
is left, whatever's clean and survives. That's what you do.
And we've not been willing to do that because.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Okay, he kind of gave an answer. He said, you
get the best experts, get all their ideas, scrub it,
and then take what's left. Now, this is very metaphorical language.
You don't literally scrub an idea or a series of ideas.

(32:04):
But notice what he does. He is outsourcing independent he
is outsourcing any kind of independent thought. He's not giving
a policy proposal, He's giving a way of arriving at
a policy proposal. Let the experts decide. Basically, remember that

(32:26):
during COVID we were all just supposed to trust the experts,
and that was that. Let's keep listening. Let's listen to
that again.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
You scrub it and then whatever is left, whatever's clean
and survives. That's what you do. And we've not been
willing to do that because of all the politics, all
the old ways of doing things.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
We haven't We in California have not been willing to
listen to expert opinion about housing affordability because of all
the politics. There are no politics in California. One side
controls three quarters of all the seats in the state legislature,

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three quarters of the Assembly sixty of eighty seats, three
quarters of the Senate thirty of forty seats. One side
has every single statewide office governor, Lieutenant governor, Attorney General,
Secretary of state, insurance commissioner. Every single state wide office

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is held by a Democrat. Six of the seven justices
on the California State Supreme Court are Democrat appointees. The
entire executive branch apparatus of California is dominated by Democrats.
There are no politics in California. You can do whatever
you want. What do you mean, we haven't been able
to just get expert opinion and do what they say

(33:56):
when it comes to housing affordability. That's all they've done.
How many committee hearings have Democrats in Sacramento had with
different experts to talk about housing affordability, but have never
been willing to do the thing that would actually solve
the problem, i e. Build at a really fast rate

(34:21):
by getting rid of the kinds of environmental and labor
regulations that inhibit building. That's all you would have to do.
It's not an accis. It's not like there's something magic
in the soil of Texas that allows the Dallas Fort
Worth area to build more homes than the entire state

(34:41):
of California. They have different laws. They have a different
regulatory regime that doesn't have the same kinds of insane
environmental and union driven rules for labor that make it
incredibly expensive and incredibly time consuming and lengthy process to
build staf Off the same complex that would take two

(35:03):
years to build in California, it takes a year to
build in Texas.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
He continues, we get caught up in this knee jerk
reaction that we can't do it that way.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Time to change.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
But is there a specific policy change that you would
propose to make a difference on some of these affordability issues?

Speaker 3 (35:22):
I think so housing development. I think everyone agrees we
don't build enough. It's not enough to say, Okay, we
all agree we don't build enough and they're not doing
anything about it. Okay, if we all agree, then everyone
from all sides of this sit down, scrub it. Because
this is what I had to do with COVID. This
is what I had to do when we're trying to
get rid of monkey pox, MPOs. This is what I

(35:42):
had to do when we were figuring out what prices
to negotiate on the drugs. You figure out where we
could go, and then you go and you just say,
damn the torpedoes, we gotta go. Let's talk.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
It's the most amazing non answer I've ever heard. He
has no thought. He hadn't listened to this clip for
a while. He has no thoughts. This man, this man
has no brain. He refuses to say what he's gonna do.
All he says is he's gonna listen to the experts
and what they say. He's not gonna do a damn

(36:22):
thing different from why what Kavin Newsom has done? Or
he's so gutless he has no he has not enough
conviction to actually say what he wants to do. He's
either gutless or brainless. Like if if you're just gonna
listen to what the experts think, why don't we have
one of the experts run for governor? Why are we

(36:44):
listening to you? Maybe? Yeah, I get if we're just
gonna listen to the experts, And who do you think
are the experts? I guarantee the experts include the environmental
wackos and the labor unions who have been the chief
reasons why we don't build quickly and a scale. So

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there you go, folks, you're missing out on Kamala. You're
getting Javi or Basera, who may be worse when we return.
I laugh at how democrats can really corral their people
way better than Republicans can. That's next on the John
Jewardy Show. It's really remarkable to me how Democrats can

(37:28):
control their people, the donors can control their people. They
don't want Joe Biden to run. Joe Biden's out. They
want Joe Biden to run. He all of a sudden,
the the c splits open and Amy clovishard drops out
in twenty twenty, and Pete Bootage had drops out in
twenty twenty, and they're you know, they don't want Bernie

(37:48):
Sanders to be elected, and all of a sudden, Joe
Biden's president twenty twenty four. Though, when they don't want
Joe Biden and Joe Biden's gone, the Democrat donor class
just controls what they want. Kamala Harris, they don't really
want it to run for governor Californy Nash, She's out.
It's amazing, It's amazing how compliant they all are. They'd
never be able to control Republicans that way. I mean,

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Donald Trump is living proof that the donor class does
not run the Republican party. That'll do it. John Drolready
shows you next time on Power Talk