Madera's Crisis for Pregnant Women

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Story out of Madera. Madera Hospital delivers the first baby
since its closure despite having no maternity ward. And this
is a good story to talk about what's going on
with medical what's going on in Madera, with Madera Community Hospital,
and with huge public health challenges that we're facing in
the San Juaquin Valley that relate to the issue of

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abortion and also prenatal care. All right, let's read this
story thirty minutes. That's how long it might have taken
for Rebecca Cervantes to travel from her Madera home to
Saint Agnes Medical Center in Fresno, where she expected to
give birth to her first daughter. But Servantes was eight
centimeters dilated early the morning of September eighth, her contractions

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were getting stronger. She knew her hometown facility, Madera Community Hospital,
did not have a maternity ward when it reopened at
March after a more than two year closure. Despite this,
Servantes's husband, Javier Bautista, decided to pull off Highway NOW
nine and up to Maderic Community. He knew his wife
was in an emergency. Within fifteen minutes, their first daughter,

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Haven Bautista Servantes became the first baby born at the
facility since twenty twenty two. Afterward, Maderak Community staff treated
Servantes for blood loss. If we didn't stop here, I'm
pretty sure we would have gave birth on the road,
Servantes told the Bee. Who knows how that would have gone. Now,
I will say, my sister in law did give birth

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to a baby in her car. She and her husband
were driving to the hospital. And yes, she did give
birth in the car, so it can be done. Definitely
not ideal though, and it sounds like she had a
lot of blood loss, so would have not been good
to do that in the car in all likelihood. The
reality of having to plan for cross country travel to

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give birth, cross county travel to give birth, I was
gonna say, cross country. What the heck are we talking about?
Underscores parents continue need for a maternity ward in Madera County,
where the majority of live births occurred in homes during
the two years since Maderic Community's twenty twenty three closure.
Let me repeat that the majority of live births occurred

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in homes during the two years since Mederic Communities January
twenty twenty three closures. Okay, so I think what that
means is basically, no babies are being born in Maderack County.
If a baby's being born in Madera County, it's because
there's a mom in Madera County who's doing a home birth. Specifically,
there's nowhere else for them to be born. In that time,

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many Madarens had to start traveling to Fresno for emergency
and specialty care as the hospital stayed closed its bankruptcy
case drawn out in federal court. Grammatical error in that story.
They have an apostrophe for its after emerging from court.
As the hospital's reopening partner, Modesto based American Advanced Management Incorporated,

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made it clear that Maderic Unity would be returning without
labor and delivery services. The company has said its focus
is achieving long term financial stability at the hospital before
adding maternity services. I don't know that that's going to happen.
Just my editorial comment. We'll keep going. The hospital has

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come under scrutiny from community members on social media since
it's reopening, but to servants and Boutista, the birth of
their baby at mader Community serves as an example of
what their hometown has regained. If an emergency happens. Look
how far the nearest the next nearest hospital is, Servantes said,
It honestly gives us a sense of comfort and just
hope that in situations like this we can come here
and get the help that we need. There's a lovely

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picture of the couple with their new little baby. Oh,
very cute. All right, But let's talk about the real
public policy problem that we are looking at here, and
the problem centers on medical and this is something I've
been dealing with pretty intensively for the last several years
out of my work for Right to Life and then
my work with the Obria Clinic. So medical is a disaster.

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There's no two ways around it. I mean, the basic
math of it is medical eligibility, the number of people
eligible to get their health insurance through medical which, for
those who don't know or understand it, it's basically government

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paid for health insurance for lower income people. It's a
mixed federal and state program. At the federal level, this
is called the Medicaid program, not Medicare, it's medicaid and
with medical basically a portion of the dollars come from

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federal funding, a portion of the dollars come from state funding.
But here's the thing, California can't keep up with the
cost demands of medical. You have more and more and
more people on medical to get health insurance in this
especially expanded after Obamacare, and it also expanded as a

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result of Gavin Newsom's governorship, where he was adding all
kinds of different people into the pool of people eligible
for medical, capping it off with the disastrous decision to
add illegal aliens on as being eligible for medical, which
was wildly more expensive then Newsom anticipated, so much so

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that he had to roll the policy back. Another another
great success by the way, in the Gavin Newsom roster
of successes and failures. Another great thing for if any
Democrat wants to just demolish Gavin Newsom on the debate
stage in twenty twenty eight, they're going to have plenty

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of opportunities to do so, because Newsom has tons of
those kinds of problems, these kinds of by parties. No
matter which way you look at it, he looks like
a moron because he either had to backtrack on a
policy he endorsed, or he just did something that nobody likes, like, Okay,
we've had horrible, horrible wildfires. You know, in the last
you know, two years of his governorship, after he had

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six years to fix the problem. Anyway, Anyway, set that aside,
we have too many people on medical and our tax
revenue pool hasn't really expanded proportionately to pay for it.
And this results in when a patient comes to a
doctor who has medical the doctor provides treatment to that

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patient and then medical reimburses the doctor. The medical reimbursement
to the doctor is just not enough money. The doctor's
not making enough. The doctor is losing money. It's not

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sustainable the doctor or the provider of the hospital, whatever,
it's not sustainable. And this is more or less true
depending on the specialty, depending on the kinds of service.
But one of the areas where docs lose the most
money with medical patients is with obgyn, obstetrics, delivering taking

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care of pregnant ladies delivering their babies, and gynecology women's healthcare.
Gynecology especially, doctors get absolutely soaked providing care to medical
women but also obstetrics unless they're able to sort of
fit their practice into these very specific California subsidy programs
where basically that's your whole practice. You can never take

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care of anything but medical patients, and you're pumping out,
you know, delivering fifty babies a month. You're not doing
any gynecology care, so the quality of your care suffers.
It's very hard to sustain. That financial model is very
hard to sustain, and a lot of obgyans don't want
to tie themselves to the model. It tends to be

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you know, worse obd yns doing that. So it's very
obvious to me. Here's Maderic Community Hospital on the Rocks.
Financially they close in January of twenty twenty three. They
reopen this year with a big fat I think it
was like a seventy million dollar loan they had to
get just to reopen. I hear people speculate. I've heard

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whispers and speculation that they're not doing so hot and
that maybe they'll close again. I don't know, maybe that's
just negative Nancy talk, but I mean, the fundamental dynamics
have not really changed. They're serving a ton of medical patients,
medical loses money. That fundamental you know problem is not
really fixing itself anytime soon. And so when Maderic Community

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opened in twenty twenty five as part of their announcement,
they said, well, we're not going to open with a
maternity which was very telling. I mean, why are they
not opening with a maternity ward because they lose money
on the maternity ward and they even said it that
They said it in the announcement. We need to make

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sure that the hospital is financially sustainable first before we
can add on a maternity ward. They have to find
a way to achieve financial stability because they know adding
a maternity ward is going to lose the money. And
this is a big problem throughout California, especially in rural

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communities where medical reimbursement rates are lower. It's a huge,
huge problem. It's why there are a number of regional hospitals,
especially in rural areas of California, that are on the
verge of closing. Medicaid in general nationwide is reimbursing so

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poorly that there are lots of hospitals that are in
difficult financial situations. It's really rough. Now, I make the
connection to abortion. If you've got a lower income woman,

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a woman who's really struggling, she gets pregnant and she thinks,
should I have this baby? Should I have an abortion?
Let's look at the financial picture of it. If she
decides she wants a board. Let's assume she's a medical patient.
Medical covers abortion. California passed a law just three years

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ago to eliminate all out of pocket expense for abortion,
so she can go get an abortion, no copey, no deductible, nothing,
And to get an abortion it's much quicker. She can

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probably get an abortion done within a week. Whereas for
many medical accepting OBGYN practices, they can't even take you
in as a patient, often for a month, two month,
three months. Their waiting list is too long. A lot

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of these practices that would take medical patients are closing
or switching to not taking medical patients anymore. So, and
guess what there are out of pocket costs for having
a baby. So what are you supposed to do if

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you're a pregnant woman, especially like a pregnant woman in Madera,
what are you going to do? You got the nearest
maternity wards are thirty minutes south in Fresno or thirty
minutes north in Merced. The hospital nearby doesn't have a
maternity ward. Valley Children's as a children's hospital, it's not
kind of set up to have a maternity ward. So

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it's bad. This is just a bad, bad, Leroy Brown
bad situation. It's just bad. And yet when people talk
about California, this is something that happens with media reports
is talking about California blithely like like value neutral, allegedly

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straight news media talks about the San Joaquin, talks about
California as a state that leads the way in reproductive rights.
When we return, I want to pop that bubble. That's
next on the John Girardi Show. Story out of Madera
about the first baby born in Madera Community Hospital since

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it reopened in twenty twentive. Of course, the unique aspect
of it is that Madera Community Hospital does not have
a maternity ward. This couple was on the road, realized
they were either going to give birth in the car
or they had to pull off and go to Madera
Community I think they crashed the er and they wind
up delivering the baby there. So, you know, congratulations to

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the couple, Thank God for a safe delivery. The mom
at did experience some blood loss, she needed to get
some care for that. You know, good job taking care
of her in an emergency situation. But it's a really
bad thing that there's no maternity ward anywhere in Madera County.
And it's emblematic of this lie, the lie that California

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is a quote reproductive rights state. And there's a certain
genre of stories like this where straight news media reports
will find something horrible that's happening with the provision, especially
of prena health care in the state of California. So
just like the statistics about the much larger percentage of

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women in California who go without prenatal care or who
have inadequate prenatal care, lesson prenatal care, whatever, there's all
kinds of stories like this. You know, there was surveys
saying that like twenty percent of women in South Fresno

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don't get any prenatal care whatsoever when they deliver their
babies as supposed to like ten percent of women in
North Fresno, or delayed prenatal care, late or inadequate prenatal care,
whatever it is. There are all these horrific stories about
this throughout California, all these horrific stories about increased rates
of fetal mortality, perinatal mortality, maternal mortality, et cetera, et cetera,

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all this bad stuff in California. I remember a story
talking about the rate of what were deemed to be
unnecessary sea sections performed in California hospital or questionably necessary
sea sections, where there's this sort of mindset that African
American women are getting sea sections at higher rates than

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white women. And is there something about this that is
has a racial bias to it? Is there a racial
bias that's infecting healthcare whatever? All this stuff happening in California,
and the news report whenever they talk about it, they
always have this like this like shocked, amazed tone, like oh,

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oh my goodness, but it's California. I mean, California is
a state that's great for reproductive rights and reproductive care.
And it's amazing to me how they have so swallowed
the sloganeering that they can't even engage in rational thinking.
All right, because let me explain what's going on. When

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people say that California leads the way in reproductive rights,
what they actually mean is that it leads the way
in one non reproductive option. Actually, it might be that
we lead the way in several non reproductive options. Contraception

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morning after pill. Abortion morning after pill can be contraceptive
can be abortifation. California leads the way in non reproductive care,
we don't lead the way in reproductive care. We've got

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big problems if you actually want to reproduce, If you
actually want to have a baby and have the misfortune
of being a lower income person in Maderra, for example,
or a lower income person in South Fresno for example,
or a lower income person in Merciae, for example, you've

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got a really difficult situation on your hands. You do
because you may not be able to access the hospital
very well. You excuse me. You may not be able
to find a provider willing to take you for care.
It is more expensive to have a baby than to
have an abortion. It is harder to get connected to

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care for a baby than to have an abortion. It's
quicker to have an abortion than to have a baby,
or certainly quicker to get connected to care to your provider.
I won't call abortion care in this case. It's not
like California is doing well with reproductive health care. If

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by reproductive health care you mean anything other than abortion
and contraception, which call me crazy, but I think reproductive
health care is a category that if it includes anything,
should include the category of having babies. California's population, by
the way, is only growing because of immigration. That's the

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only reason it's not growing because of birth rates. We
are aborting and contracepting ourselves as a state and as
a country to death. Birth rates are really low. That
can have really bad long term impacts. And it's actually
Michael Brendan Doherty, he writes for National Review, talked about this.

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It's this astonishing thing how governments have an easier time
getting a foreign immigrant to cross their border than they
do convincing the women in their own citizenry to have babies.
Like it's an easier ask for countries that have to

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have a certain level of stability in their population and
a certain level population replacement in order for their economies
not to crash. They've realized it's easier to import people
from the Third World than it is to actually convince
their own citizens, their own the men and women in
their own citizenry to make families and have babies. It's

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kind of an astonishingly sad thing, but it's certainly not
helped when again, you live in Madera, you get pregnant,
you're on medical where are you going to go for care,
and the whole thing isn't going to be helped if
the left and the media in particular, if they keep

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just buying these slogans at California leads the way and
reproductive rights. California leads the way and reproductive rights. No,
it doesn't. Don't think that malpractice doesn't happen in this state.
Don't think that poor care doesn't happen in this state.
Don't think that the oh, everyone's got access to care
because Gavin Newsom expanded medical ca average to basically everybody.

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This was the other big lie of the Newsome administration.
By the way, Newsom runs for governor in twenty eighteen
on this big talking promise of I'm gonna get universal
single payer California Healthcare, Calcare, Yeah, everyone's I don't know
if he had Calcare. Maybe that was that name was
maybe connected to a different bill or something. Anyway, Newsom

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was talking about single payer healthcare, and he talked about,
you know, liberal politicians, they always talk about single payer
health care and then when it's time for the rubber
to meet the road, they're nowhere to be found. And
I'm not gonna be like that. I'm gonna be the
guy right right, And then when the rubber met the
road and the insurance companies all got to him all

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of a sudden, he said, oh, well, who, maybe we'll
just have the government option and we'll just expand medical
coverage so that everyone is eligible for insurance. And so
that's what he did. He just expanded and expanded expanded
medical coverage without proportionately expanding the revenue going into medical

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and as a result, reimbursements from revenue reimbursements from medical
to doctors are so low and so unsustainable that Maderia
Community Hospital goes out of business, that doctors more and
more can't afford to take at least some medical patients
for obgyn care. Newsom band aidd over these fundamental problems

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that medical was experiencing in spite of the fact that
medical was not really designed for able bodied adults. The
point of medicaid in California medical The point of medicaid
was it was a kind of special government funded healthcare

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program to help take care of people in particular difficult
situations where they don't necessarily have the capacity to work
for themselves and thereby acquire insurance on their own. Pregnant women,
certain kinds of disabled people, et cetera. These were the
legacy Medicaid beneficiaries. But now it's just been broadly expanded

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to anyone under a certain lower under a certain income threshold.
So Newsome didn't actually care about solving the problem. He
just wanted the slogan. He just wanted the photo op.
He just wanted to, Oh, I did it. I achieved
universal health care coverage and give himself a big pat

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on the back. Meanwhile, I don't know that anyone can
say that the quality of care is significantly better. This
notion that California quote leads the way in reproductive health
care is just astonishingly stupid. All right, when we return,

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we'll talk about the defunding of Planned parenthood, finally going
into a fact after the first circuit overruled a stupid
decision by a federal district court judge in Boston, and
what impact this is happening on abortion providers nationwide. That's
next on the John Girardi Show. A lot of you

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heard the headlines back a couple of months ago when
the Republicans passed the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, which
was the big Reconciliation Bill. There was this provision in
it to allow for Planned Parenthood to be defunded for
one year, basically saying abortion providers that kind of fit

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the description of Planned Parenthood are ineligible to receive federal
funding because they provide abortion, all right, And the federal
funding the Planned parentod was getting mostly was from the
federal Medicaid program, which we talked about at length in
the last segment. Basically, Medicaid is government funded health insurance

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for lower income people. Planned parent It's patients are on Medicaid.
They go to Planned Parenthood, they get something, and Medicaid
pays for it. Now federal every state has its own
Medicaid plan. California it's called medical and Medicaid is funded
by a mix of federal and state dollars. Federal Medicaid

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dollars will not reimburse doctors for abortions. It will not
pay for abortions. State Medicaid dollars, though can depending on
the state. So some Red states Red states absolutely do
not provide funding for abortion. In fact, a lot of

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Red states have completely disqualified Planned Parenthood and other abortion
providers as being eligible to participate in their state's Medicaid
program at all. The Supreme Court upheld South Carolina's decision
to do precisely that. Some states, like California are the opposite. Yes,
state funds absolutely pay for abortion. They have to pay

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for abortion because the California State Supreme Court said so
in one of its more ridiculous decisions back in I
think that was the eighties or early nineties. And then
there are purple states. There are a lot of purple states,
like Pennsylvania, for example, that in Michigan, and I believe Wisconsin,
where state Medicaid dollars will pay for various services from

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Planned Parenthood, but not abortions. Now, one of the things
I did was to investigate this. I looked at the
federal nine to ninety form for every single Planned Parenthood
affiliate in the country. Now, an affiliate is not an
individual clinic. It's basically a regional grouping of clinics that
operate as one single nonprofit corporation. And the federal nine

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ninety form is the form that every nonprofit has to
present for the tax filings, and it provides certain basic
kinds of information, So it's got stuff about revenue expenses,
and it also includes program services. Now I examined this,

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and what I realized is program services chiefly means revenue
that these Planned Parenthood clinics are getting from providing services
and getting an insurance reimbursement. Then most of that insurance
reimbursement's coming from Medicaid. Right, So by doing that, I
was able to see I could see how much revenue

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Planned Parenthood clinics were getting from donations and how much
revenue Planned Parenthood clinics were getting from insurance, and most
of it from federal Medicaid money. And it was really
interesting and surprising to see. At first, I had thought that, okay, well,

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Planned parent it's going to lose out on federal funding
for one year. How big of a deal is that
gonna be? Now I think it's both a bigger deal
and a less big deal. But let me explain why
it's a big deal. Because Planned Parenthood in twenty twenty three,

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all of their affiliates combined had a combined revenue of
one point seven billion dollars. About seven hundred million of
that was from federal Medicaid money. So they're gonna lose
for okay, So let me just think think out loud

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here if You've got a business that's used to getting
X in revenue every year, and even one year it
only gets two thirds X revenue. Is that bad for you? Yeah,
it's probably really bad. You're gonna have to cut things.
If you have one year where you you're losing out

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on a third of your revenue, you're gonna have to
change some things. You can't sustain that even for one year.
So you got to lay people off, you got to
close down buildings, you got to shut down locations, you
got to shut down your least profitable location, whatever it
is you gotta do. And that's precisely what's happened for

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Planned Parenthood. And I was able to predict it. I
was able to look at my spreadsheet and I was
able to see, Okay, they're really reliant on federal money here,
like Planned Parenthood of Michigan. I saw it, and I
could see the mix of how much money they were
getting from insurance reimbursement, most of that from the federal government,
how much they were getting from private donations. And I

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was like, Yep, they're gonna get crushed and lo and
behold they did. They have to close down five clinics
in Michigan. Planned PARENTOITI of Wisconsin has to completely shut
down their abortion services just to stay afloat. A bunch
of other Planned parenthoods are closing down all over the country.

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Planned Parenthood in Houston and Louisiana dead. Planned Parenthood had
the biggest abortion clinic in the Western Hemisphere in Houston,
and they had to close it. Planned Parenthood has no
more locations in Louisiana. Now. The really interesting thing I
think is California. So one of the things I was

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able to track by looking at all this I was
able to track like the percentage of revenues Planned Parenthood
was getting from different sources, how much money they were
getting from insurance reimbursement, how much money they were getting
from private donations. The Planned Parenthood clinics in California, and
there's a ton of them. There's like six different Planned

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Parenthood affiliates that are located in California. One of them
is located in California, but then also as a clinic
in Reno and a clinic in Nevada. But so altogether
it's about they have a combined revenue of about six
hundred million bucks, about eighty percent of their revenue comes
from insurance, and the vast bulk of that is federal funding.

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So you're talking about a six hundred million dollar entity
that's gonna lose out on, you know, so a six
hundred million dollars in revenue entity that's going to miss
out on. They're estimating three hundred million dollars half of
their revenue gone for a year. Now, it's just a year,

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but that's a bad year. That's such a bad year
that you can't sustain it for even the one year.
You've got to close stuff. And that's precisely what has
started to happen, and I'm sure it's going to be
accelerated over the course of the rest of this year.
From now until next ju July. I suppose Parenthood in Marmanti,

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which runs the abortion clinic in Fresno, but also runs
a bunch of abortion clinics in the Bay Area, the
North Valley, Reno, and Las Vegas. They've had to close
down five clinics in California. They've had to lay off
a ton of their executive staff. And that's just the
beginning that they're just the start. A lot of this,

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I think was getting delayed because of a court case
that was going on in Massachusetts. Okay, So basically a
lot of the Planned PARENTHOD affiliates gathered together and they
tried to file a lawsuit to challenge the one big
Beautiful Bill Acts defunding a Planned Parenthood in court to
try to argue somehow that this was unconstitutional. Now, let's

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also note like the nature of this lawsuit in just
how silly it was. Most of the lawsuits, most of
the law fair that's happened against the Trump administration in
Trump two point zero, it's been against Trump executive action.
Which often that's easier to sue and win. Why well,
because when just the president is acting, the president would

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have to show that basically, there is some law on
the books that gives me the latitude to act within
this certain parameter of activity. I am within those boundaries,
but within those boundaries, I'm doing something different. So when
a president does that, it can immediately prompt a challenge

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by someone who's impacted by it to say, hey, the
president exceeded that scope. He's not allowed to go beyond
the scope of whatever this law was that Congress wrote,
you know, twenty years ago that he's citing as his
basis for doing X, Y or Z. So, for example,
Trump tried to cite the Alien Enemies Act to deport

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certain folks from Venezuela, certain bad dudes seeming seemed to
be quite bad dudes from Venezuela. He cited the Alien
Enemies Act as giving him the authority to do that.
The Alien Enemies Act was a law passed in I
think the late seventeen hundreds. It hadn't been used very often.
But Trump was saying, hey, this is a law. It's

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on the books. It allows me to do X, Y
and Z. I am doing this. It's within the parameters
of X, Y and Z, I'm allowed to do this.
Lawyers on behalf of the Venezuelans tried to sue and say, no,
you exceeded the bounds of what the Alien Enemies Act
allows you to do, and or the Alien Enemies Act
is unconstitutional because of X, Y and Z. But that's

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not what we're dealing with with the Planned parenthood case.
What we were dealing with with planned Parenthood was not
an executive action. We're dealing with a law, a law
passed by Congress. The House voted for it, the Senate
voted for it. The President signed it into law, and
it just said, hey, for one year and toys like

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this can't participate in the Medicaid program. Now the claim
was being made, oh, this is a bill of attainder.
So a bill of attainer is basically and after the fact,
attempt to pass a law to punish someone, a specific person,

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for activity that was legal at the time. That's not
what this was. First of all, it's not a punishment.
No one is entitled to federal funding forever and ever. Secondly,
it didn't specifically target Planned Parenthood by name. It described
a kind of organizational entity that just so happened to
fit the description of planned parenthood. But other entities probably

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will get swept up under this restriction on funding. So
all these planned Parent affiliates tried to file a lawsuit
in the District of Massachusetts. So the whole country's broken
up into different federal districts for the federal courts and

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for the federal US attorneys who are prosecutors for federal
crimes and the federal public defenders who defend indigent defendants
who are accused of federal crimes. The District of Massachusetts
in Boston, there are a number of federal district court judges.
Federal district court judges, like Federal Circuit court judges, like

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Supreme Court judges, are nominated by presidents and confirmed by
the Senate. So we've got this Obama appointed judge in
the district of Massachusetts, and of course they choose to
sue in Massachusetts. Why well, because twelve of the thirteen
federal judges there are Democrat appointees, so they know they'll
get some looney tune liberal and they think that the

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First Circuit Court of Appeals is very liberal. That's dominated
by Democrat appointed judges, so the district court judge will
be liberal if it gets appealed up to the First Circuit.
Those judges are liberal. They get a great draw and
they get this super whacked out left wing judge who says, oh, yeah,
this is a bill of attainer. This is better. You
can't defund planned parenthood. That's horrible. And then to show

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just how extreme and luna, you know, looney tunes she is,
the decision gets appealed to the First Circuit Court of Appeals,
and even they, who are all you know, mostly Democrat appointees,
mostly quite liberal, they overturn the District judge and they say, no,
we're not talking about the a president engaging in rogue

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activity beyond the scope of federal law. This is a
law passed by Congress. They're allowed to not fund something.
If Congress can't decide not to fund something, then there's
literally no point to Congress at all. If Congress can't
make a decision that to not spend money, we really
need to kind of close up shop. So because that

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decision came down from the First Circuit Court of Appeals
last week, the federal defunding a Planned Parent it's gonna
happen now when we return, will that federal funding come back?
And what will it mean? Next? On the John Girardi Show,
Planned Parenthood is being defunded for one year. Finally the
court case is more or less finished, the defunding can

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go into effect. Planned Parents is having to close down clinics.
I think they can survive a one year defunding. They're
gonna have to close a lot of clinics, They're gonna
have to lay off a lot of people, but they
can't survive a multi year defunding. They can't survive. Say
if Republicans come back next year and they're able to
do another reconciliation bill or recision bill or something to

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continue the defunding of Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood can't sustain that.
It's gonna cripple them. Now, it's good news and bad news.
Good news because their brick and mortar clinics will have
to close. Bad news is this, If we don't regulate
the abortion pill and we still allow it to be

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shipped through the mail and prescribe to women who only
do telemedicine visits, it may not meaningfully lessen the number
of abortions. And that's ultimately what I care about. I
don't so much care about ending Planned Parenthood. I want
to end abortion. That'll do it. John Giroti Show, See
you next time on Power Talk