Measure C - The 'C' Stands for Catastrophe

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I feel like Measure C is headed to complete disaster.
I feel like the proposed solution that such luminaries as
Lynn Ashbeck, the Clovi City Council member who helped engineer
this bizarre compromise of liberal groups were threatening to oppose
Measure C, threatening to run their own ballot initiative, their

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own competing local ballot initiative to tank the measure cee effort.
Her solution of, well, let's just bring all those people
in and help have them help right the new Measure C.
I feel like it's going to end in unbelievable catastrophe.

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So we've had a lot of developments in the last
sort of week or so with the Fresno Council of
Governments and its various committees who are tasked with drafting
Measure see. The Fresno Council of Governments, which is basically
a body composed of either a mayor or a city

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council member from every city in Fresno County, as well
as a representative from the County Board of Supervisors. I
think the City of Fresno actually has three representatives on it,
just because City of Fresno has like way more people
than any other individual city in Presno County. So we've
had a couple of different things over the last week

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or so that are resulting in big problems. First you
have Brooke Ashton getting kicked off the Council of Governments
and Brook Ashton gets kicked off of the Council of Governments.

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Ashton has experienced, I believe with He's the founder and
CEO of a paving company. Ashton's also so a former
trustee for Fresne Unified School District, so he's like a
citizen member of the Measures CEE Steering Committee. I think
he was one of the people appointed by City of

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Fresno and kind of makes sense Measure sees about Rhodes.
He's a paving guy, he understands a lot about local government.
It seems like a solid fit well. Measure C leadership
kicked Ashtrin off for expressing his negative viewpoints about this

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new arrangement. We have to let all these environmental groups
have a say in drawing up Measure C, which has
royally ticked off the City Council and the mayor. During
a presentation on the county wide transportation tax at Thursday
at the Fresno City Council meeting. I believe this was
last Thursday. Fresno Council of Government's executive director Robert Phipps

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and consultant Kendall Flint revealed they had removed businessman Brooke
Ashtin from the group. The steering committee, with up to
thirty eight members, will advise other government agencies on what
a twenty twenty six measure ce renewal spending plan might
look like. Ashtin violated ground rules that were established back
in April at the formation of the committee with regards
to decorum in terms of speaking to the media, Phipps said.

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After the presentation, Phipps and Flint said Ashton made derogatory
comments about elected officials, the measure and the process running
a foul of rules previously established by the committee. We
have rules, rules and regulations, rules which will change to
get all the environmental wackos on the committee now. City

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Council member Mike Carbassi and council member Tyler Maxwell did
not like what they heard. You're telling me it's because
he exercises right to an opinion and to be critical.
It's ironic though, because transportation for all, a lot of
their members often are very opinionated and critical. They've criticized
our process and been able to muscle their way into this.
It's very frustrating for me, Carbasi said. The Measure CE

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steering committee was initially composed of twenty six member the
City of Fresno receiving three, the other cities in the
county each getting one, Fresno County getting one, and the
remainder representing several interest groups. The committee started meeting in April.
Transportation for All a coalition of several social justice organizations.
Social justice I would like to put those in scare quotes,
if I will, they wanted to say. In Measure C planning,

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the group flowed the idea of writing its own measure
and presenting it to voters, a concept that several experts
said would tank both measures if they appeared on the
same twenty twenty six ballot. In a compromise, the Fresno
Council of Government's Policy Board, including Mayor Jerry Dyer, expanded
the steering committee, allowing twelve Transportation for All reps to join.

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The first meeting of the expanded group is this afternoon.
This was back on July seventeenth. It worries me that
we have allowed one third the Steering Committee to be
commandeered by folks who have previously opposed Measure C financially
on the ground on social media. Maxwell said some of
the twelve additional members campaigned against a twenty twenty two

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version of Measure C renewal, which, although it received fifty
percent of the vote, failed because it needed two thirds.
Carbassi and Maxwell demanded that Phipps and Flint these executives
for Measure C reinstate Brooke Ashton. Carbasi even suggested the
other Fresno representatives, Karen Maussan and Chuck Riojas, boycott the
meeting he has first Amendment rights. Carbasi said that's not okay,

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it's completely wrong. Phipps said it is to be determined
whether Ashton returns. It's also unacceptable to the mayor. City
Manager Georgie Anne White said Dyer was disappointed upon learning
of asht ouster. This is unacceptable. It's unacceptable to the mayor.
White said, clearly this is a problem. Asked if the
Ashton controversy undermines the Steering Committee, Phipps said that that's

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going to be for others to decide the final say
on what voters may see the ballot will be determined
by the several city councils and the county Board of Supervisors.
This is already combative enough, and so that's all we're
trying to do is make sure that the temperature came
down Flint Seat of Committee rules. Well, they did a
great job of that. Yeah, kick off anyone who has
anything critical to say of the process. Yeah, that'll really

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help people not be mad. So what did Ashton even say?
Ashton appeared on gv wire Has a kind of Digital Show,
where he criticized the concept of giving too much of
measure seize money for public transportation. Nobody rides the bus,

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Ashton said. He also wrote an opinion piece published by
gv wire. In addition, he criticized the inclusion of the
transportation for all members to the steering committee. Here comes
the twelve Crazies from Ashley's Ashley swear Engen Fresno Economic
Opportunities Comission from Ashley's NGO, Ashton said he referred to
Ashley Sweringen, CEO of nonprofit Central Valley Community Foundation. Excuse me,

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Central Valley Community Foundation. Central Valley Community Foundation is supporting
a compromise measure shaped by transportation for all. Ashton criticized
former supervisor Steve Brandau, who is working on behalf of
cvc F to broker a deal, calling him quote some
crazy kouk. Now probably could have phrased it a little.

(07:28):
I mean, it's not like he called them a bunch
of mfors or anything like that. He called Brandaw a kook,
which is maybe not the nicest thing in the world.
I like Steve Brandau. I think he's an okay guy.
I think he's a good guy. I should I should clarify.
He's been very kind to me and I have I
still very I still have great fondness for Brandau for

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having brought the library initiative and being really responsive to me,
and I have a real appreciation for Brandau. Actually, one
of the things about local government that I'm most kind
of bummed out about is that Brettefeld and Brandau were
both competing for the same County Board of Supervisors seat.
I think the County Board of Supervisors would have been
stronger if both of them could sit on it. And

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I have, you know, great affection and appreciation for both
of those guys. But anyway, so yeah, Ashton could have
called the liberal nonprofit groups who now all have a
say on the mestrac process. Maybe he could have called
them something other than a bunch of crazies. Maybe he
could have called Steve Brandau something other than a kouk.

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But oh, that's so inflammatory. You gotta be kicked off.
You called them crazies. Well, for one thing, they are crazy.
I mean like they they're they're these are crazy groups.
It's led by Sandra Celadon, who was like one of
the key people negotiating this whole thing. Sandra Seladon's a
crazy person. Sandra Saladon, Jen only thinks we should defund

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the police. Sandra Zelodon was celebrating watching video of police
precincts in Minneapolis being burned to the ground. That is
the behavior of a crazy person, or at the very least,
maybe not an actually crazy person, someone with crazy ideas.
And I think that whole group has people with crazy ideas.

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They have. One of the members of the steering committee
that's going to be helping draft Measure C is the
CEO of Leadership Council for Justice and Accountability, a nonprofit
that literally sued to stop production of a green energy
hydrogen plant because they were afraid it would bring truck

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traffic to Pixley, California. They were gonna build it in Pixley, California. Oh,
it's gonna bring too much truck traffic and therefore truck
pollution to Pixley, California. They they are so environmental wacko,
such environmental wackos that they're literally gonna stop the construction

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of a hydrogen power plant because of truck pollution in Pixley. Pixley,
the whole town is less than half a mile away
from the ninety nine. The whole town, it's just a
pit stop on the ninety nine. About one hundred thousand
trucks drive through it every single day. Oh three trucks
stopping per day at a power plant. That's gonna change

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the environment in Pixley. Just a truck stopping as opposed
to the eight hundred gazillion trucks that drive through that
you know, zip right through at sixty five miles per
hour every single day. I mean, that's the kind of
ultra left wing nonsense we're talking about. These are people

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to the left of Gavin Newsom. These are people to
the left of the state legislature who clearly don't want
to build roads, and we're letting them on the committee
for the County Sales Tax whose only function is to
get us money to build roads. So you're not allowed

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to be on the steering committee if you criticize the
other people on the committee or criticize the process. Well,
what the heck is this? So the guys who are
the consultants for Measure C, I guess, have this unilateral
power to just remove people from the Measure C Steering Committee.

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I guess whenever they want. The executive director of the
presno Council of Governments Robert Phipps, and the consultants for
Measure C Kendall Flint who died and made him pope.
He's a consultant, what do we care what he thinks?
And the executive director of the Council of Government's Robert Phipps.
So they can just unilaterally remove people from the steering committee.

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That's the other thing with this count This whole process
seems to be flooded with like twenty different committees that
all have different roles. The whole thing seems terribly complicated.
So we've got this whole insanity going on that. We've

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got Brooke Ashton getting kicked out of the Steering committee
for this. But here's the thing. Ashton's not wrong, and
kicking him off the committee is not gonna change the issue.
You kick Ashton off, you're gonna have somebody else on there,
who's gonna have If there's ten other people in there,

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who's gonna have the same viewpoint, You're still gonna have
Gary Bradefeld on there. You're still gonna have the mayor
on there. You're still gonna have representatives from the city.
And there's this fundamentally unreconcilable disagreement. What is Measure C four?
Is it for building roads or is it for promoting
public transportation? That it's a limited pool of money. It

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can only go so many ways, and we're gonna have that.
We have two competing and nearly irreconcilable visions of what
Measures C should be four. All right, City of Fresno
wants it for roads. When I talked with Gary Bredefeld
about this, he thought that he and the mayor were
pretty and Mayor Dyer were pretty much aligned on this

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that and he thought he was, you know, pretty much
had the backing of the City of the County Board
of Supervisors for this that they want about eighty percent
of it to go towards roads. They want it to
go towards road reconstruction. Ashton has been very public saying
this needs to go eighty percent seventy percent to roads,

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and there's no way that these left wing groups want that.
And this ridiculous proposal that seemingly dire went along with
most of the Council of Governments went along with because
they're afraid of this group's sinking Measure C, which I

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guess here's the thing. I'll get to that in the
next segment. This proposal that apparently maryrior Dyer went along with,
that Lynn Ashbec really pushed and Lynn Ashbec's defending saying
it's not blackmail, blah blah blah blah. This idea that
we're going to give twelve of the thirty eight seats
on this steering committee that's tasked with drafting Measure C.

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We're giving twelve seats to a bunch of nonprofit organizations
who represent nobody. They represent they've never won an election,
they don't represent any local government, they don't represent any
relevant business interest, they present no relevant you know industry

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like Brooke Ashton is a paving contractor. He has relevant expertise, thoughts,
experience to bring to the table. These people don't know.
Bleep from Shinola another word that begins with the letters
sh from Shinola. As my dad would always say, they

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represent nobody, and yet they're gonna get way more of
a say than For example, the entire city of Clovis.
City of Clovis has one hundred and twenty thousand residents.
It's a big chunk of Fresno County. We have one
representative on this steering committee. Meanwhile, we have as much

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representation as Leadership Council for Justice and Accountability Faith in
the Valley, which represents like a couple of the most
liberal churches in the entire San Joaquin Valley. Why does
Faith in the Valley get a seat on this but
not say, I don't know the Catholic Bishop of Fresno.
There are way more Catholics than all of the churches

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that are than all of the members of all of
the churches that are part of Faith in the Valley combined,
or as I call it, heresy in the Valley of Darkness. Now,
when we return I want to talk about this ridiculous.
I want to talk about again the numbers and understand,

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despite what Lenna Ashpek says, these liberal nonprofit groups played
this whole thing like a fiddle and they got just
enough representation, specifically enough representation to maximally gum up this process.
Next on the John Gerardy Show, the effort to oust
Brooke Ashton from the Measure CE steering committee is ridiculous

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and it's not going to achieve its desired effects. The
executive director of the Fresno Council of Governments and the
consultants for Measure C who apparently removed Ashton because he
was critical of people and of the process ooh, because
he called the left wing groups a bunch of crazies
and called Steve Brandawa kuk. Didn't literally those were the

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words he used. It's not like he called them a
bunch of mf ors. It's not like he you know, No,
he said that they were crazies and he called Steve
Brandall kuk, which is not nice to Steve brand I
like Steve Brandell a lot, but like what really, that's
all you gotta do and you're removed this person who
the city of Fresno wanted. The City of Fresno is

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super ticked off about this. Mayor has ticked off about it.
City Council has ticked off about it. Across the political spectrum,
by the way, Tyler Maxwell and Mike Carbassi, who are
both Democrats, are mad that Ashton's been kicked off. Jerry
Dyer's mad that Ashton's been kicked off. Ashen himself is
a super conservative Republican, Dier's a more moderate Republican, and

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Carbasi and Maxwell are Democrats. Garbasi is a pretty moderate Democrat.
The thing is, this issue isn't going away, and kicking
Ashtin off the committee is not going to change the fundamental,
serious disagreements that are going to exist on this steering

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committee that's being tasked with actually writing Measure C what
it's supposed to be. And it just so annoys me.
How Lynn Ashpec says, well, you know, they give twelve
of the thirty eight seats to these liberal nonprofit groups
on this steering committee that's supposed to draft what Measure
C is going to be it's supposed to draft. Hey,

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is eighty percent of this going to go to road reconstruction?
Is only forty percent of that's going to go to
road reconstruction. Is you know, fifteen percent of this going
to go to helping public transportation? Is forty percent of
it going to go to public transportation. That's what this
Steering Committee's going to do. Now. The ultimate final verbiage
of Measure C is going to be determined by the
Council of Governments, which does not include the liberal nonprofit groups.

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But obviously if they completely just reject the initial recommendation
from the Steering Committee as done by the nonprofit groups,
it's going to look bad. And we're going to be
right where we started with the liberal nonprofit groups protesting
and opposing Measure C. Or we get a Measure C
that's not very useful and the voters of the citizens

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of Presne County are everyone paying any sales tax, so
i e. Everyone in Presnee County will be forced to
pay for something useless. And this whole deal to give
these twelve nonprofit groups who don't represent anybody, they don't
represent a soul that they represent themselves, they get twelve seats,

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while the entire city of Clovis gets one seat. One
hundred and twenty thousand plus people in Clovis the second.
I don't know, is it the second biggest city in
Presno County. I think it is. They get one seat.
These nonprofits that represent nobody get twelve, and Lynn Ashbeck
can say all she wants, the Clovis City council member

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who helped negotiate this ridiculous deal, the number doesn't matter,
It doesn't matter. This is it's they're not holding the
process hostage. Saying they're holding it hostage is inflammatory. This
isn't blackmail, This isn't The steering Committee can't recommend anything.
Per the rules that have been set up for this process.

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The Steering Committee needs seventy percent agreement before they can
give a proposal that the Council of Government acts on
for a final yes or no. So if thirty percent
of the Steering Committee objects, they won't give a proposal

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to the Council of Governments. Twelve divided by thirty eight.
Twelve out of thirty eight is like thirty one percent.
They the liberals, the liberal nonprofit activists can do math.
Unlike Lynn Ashbeck. Apparently, the liberal nonprofit activists can do math,

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and they specifically, not one more, not one less, got
themselves exactly the right numbersentative of representatives on this Steering
Committee to ensure basically that they have a veto on
any proposal that the Steering Committee's going to propose for
what Measure C is going to look like. Again, that

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they have precisely just over thirty percent of the representation.
If they had eleven out of thirty seven seats, they
would have under thirty percent. But they have twelve out
of thirty eight seats, which is exactly thirty one point
five to seven thirty one point five to eight percent. Okay,

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so they can count, they can do math, they can
do simple division, unlike Glenn Ashbeck. So yes, Brooke Ashton
is not wrong that these are a bunch of crazies
that or at the very least, what he's revealing is
we have distinct, sharp differences of viewpoint between people who

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fundamentally don't really care about our roads getting fixed and
everyone with a brain. So this controversy is not going
to go away. It is only gonna get hotter. And
I would just give this recommendation. Look, Measure C in

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twenty twenty two lost. It got fifty eight percent of
the vote and needed sixty seven percent of the vote.
You need conservatives in Fresno County to vote for this
thing because pretty much every conservative and there are a
lot of conservatives in Fresno County who reflexibly vote no
for any sales tax ever all the time. It's why

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Measure you didn't pass. Conservatives don't like voting for sales taxes.
Instead of maybe make these left wing lunatics and their
opposition to measures see make it the cornerstone of your campaign.
The radical left doesn't want that, you know, left wing

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nut jobs who hate all roads don't want this. We
need to expand our roads. Hey, conservatives, don't listen to
these left wing lunatics. Let's build our roads in Fresno County.
I'm like practically ready to be the spokesman or a
measure C like that, I'm not going to be a
spokesman for a measure CE. Well, with the caveat that

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I probably can't do that because I'm a radio show
host and I run a nonprofit. So they're probably like
twenty reasons rhetorically speaking, ready to be a spokesman. But
that's the problem is, I don't want to be a
spokesman for Measure C. If it's their measure ce, all right,
when we return the fascinating Hunter Biden interview next on
the John Gerardy Show. So I watched some clips of

(24:29):
this bizarre, fascinating, it's genuinely kind of fascinating interview that
Hunter Biden sat down for. And it was this interview
done by this similarly bizarre interviewer, this guy named Andrew Callahan,

(24:50):
some kind of independent journalists who somehow scored an interview
with Hunter Biden and got Hunter Biden for like three hours,
just un ringed, unedited Hunter Biden and a couple of
things that it really just sort of struck me from
watching the thing. So first is just how similar Hunter

(25:15):
is to Joe, just so many mannerism's demeanor, how his
voice sounds, the weird, non responsive, overgeneralized way that he
and Joe both respond to questions, Like the whole time,

(25:36):
I'm like, oh my gosh, this is just this is
just Joe. This is Joe slightly more. This is a
more mentally acute, quicker on his feet with way more
curse words version of Joe Biden. That's what it was.

(25:56):
It was, and Hunter, the whole interview, Hunter is curse
like a sailor just dropping f bombs left and right.
And there's a lot of other sort of personality aspects
of Joe that were really evident. First is the just
unbridled arrogance, totally unbridled arrogance talking about illegal immigration. And

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because it's I don't know what it is, I feel
like it is. I really feel like Hunter talks with
talks with Joe quite a bit. I mean, Joe has
said that like he thinks hundreds of the smartest person
he knows, these these very alarming little slips that Joe

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had let out about Hunter that yeah, he thinks. And
there were plenty of news reports that, especially in the
last months, that Hunter was like in the White House,
like involved, like part of Joe's close, you know, family circle,
while Hunter was dealing with lots of very serious legal problems,

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which his dad then bailed him out with a pardon
right at the end. So the unbridled arrogance of especially
this answer about illegal immigration where Hunter brings it up,
he says, you know, all these people complaining about illegal immigration,

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bleep you effort, bleep you. Who's gonna pick your bleeping
food vegetables, Who's gonna clean your bleeping hotels, bleep you,
which is like it really to me, it was kind
of a perfect summary of the Biden attitude towards illegal immigration,

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which was you're concerned about illegal immigration, well screw you,
like no concern, not one word of concern, and then
just falling back on these old, tired, hackneyed stereotypes of all,

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who's picking your vegetables, Like ninety percent of the country
is fine with importing some immigrant labor to pick our vegetables.
We just don't want completely unvetted hordes of people, thousands
of millions of people, completely unvetted coming into the country

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and violation of our laws. Now, he the other thing
he kept he kept doing was criticizing the Democrat establishment.
Hunter is clearly extremely bitter about Joe being pushed out
of the presidential race, which is weird in the context

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of right now, where there's no sense right now of
it didn't seem to be to me much of a
sense from him of boy, you know, I'm you know,
I guess I'm kind of glad in a way that it.
You know, I'm obviously still upset that it happened, but
in a way I'm kind of glad now that my
dad's cancer diagnosis has come about. You know, you know,

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this would have been a really tough spot for him
to be president and to be dealing with cancer. No,
nothing like that, Nothing like that. No thought at any
time against the wisdom of Joe Biden as the against
the wisdom of Joe Biden as an eighty one year
old man running. And this was even revealed. He talked

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about the debate. He's like, I can tell you what happened,
exactly what happened in the debate. You know, he's old.
He's eighty one years old. He'd been flying all over
the country like crazy. He was tired as hell. You know,
he needed ambient to sleep, which I was like, oh really,
you need the ambient a sleep that Hey, that's that's
been a new news. And he's and he got out

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there and he was deer in the headlights, as if
and he's trying to he's talking about it as if
that explains it or rationalizes it, or or makes it
better or makes it less damaging. And he kept saying, well, yeah,
what do you expect. He's old. That's okay, he's old.

(30:30):
He's still accomplished more than well, him being old is
really relevant that that's the that was the critique. He's old,
He's too old to do this, so he he has
this real sort of inflated arrogance against anyone who would

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dare criticize him or his dad. And it's it's also
it borders between extremely alarming and well, it's either something
that makes you want to your eyes to roll out
of your head, Oh brother, how ridiculous this is, or

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make you really alarmed that he kept talking about Joe
Biden's accomplishments, the legislation he was able to get passed,
the boipartisan legislation he was able to get passed. So
I think Biden's various COVID, big time spending bills, the
Inflation Reduction Act, et cetera, et cetera, and he was

(31:37):
talking about it. He kept using the first person plural.
We were able to pass the blah blah blah blah blah,
we were able to accomplish more liberal priorities in four years.
You know, when people were calling for Joe to be
kicked out, it was AOC and the progressives who were saying,
Joe Biden has accomplished more of our agenda in four

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years than any press instance, FDR blah blah blah blah blah.
I'm not even sure if that's accurate, if that's actually
that AOC was really backing him, but he keeps he
kept saying throughout the interview.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
We we were able to pass, we were able to accomplish,
we were which again, your two reactions to that have
to be either Okay, oh, brother, like what are you
doing taking taking credit as if you had some part
of it for your dad's accomplishment.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
You weren't part of the administration, You didn't do any
you weren't a secretary of something, like what are you
talking about? We we we. On the other hand, there's
a part of these that's like, oh, geez, Louise, was
Hunter actually really heavily involved in this stuff all along?
That he's actually like reasonably trying to take credit for this.

(32:57):
I mean that that's the thing that makes you really worried,
is boy, how close was Hunter Biden to the circle
of power? How close was he to the levers of power?
The other thing that I really drew from it was
the real Biden family anger at the what they view

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as the real establishment of the Democrat Party, which which
they centralize in the Obama crew, David Axelrod, and then
also he had such utter hatred and disdain for There's
this one podcast called Pod Save America and it's run

(33:43):
by a bunch of guys who were like speech writers,
young speech writers, policy analysts during the Obama administration. And
these guys are all I don't know how old. They are,
probably in their early forties now, early to mid forties now.
They were probably in their late twenties in mid twenties
in eight when Obama started. Jon Favreau, not the director

(34:07):
actor Jon Favreau, different guy named John Favreau, and a
couple of other guys, and they were one of the
they after the debate and then after this fundraiser that
Joe was at, they were one of the first ones
to say Joe needs to go. And so Hunter has
this delicious line about those guys who he said, oh,

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so four millionaires living in Beverly Hills, four white millionaires
dining out on their association with Barack Obama from sixteen
years ago, that they know what's best from the Democrat Party.
F you, which I was like, Hunter, you you you
crazy son of a gun. I think you actually made

(34:52):
a pretty decent point. The Democrat that the idea Wait,
Hunter does make some decent points they're trying to not.
Hunter is complaining that they're gonna move back the South
Carolina Democrat primary, although I don't think that's true. I
think they've made the South Carolina Democratic primary their first primary.
But he's made the point that it was black voters

(35:14):
and lower income voters, not so much the party establishment
that really got Joe Biden to win the Democrat nomination,
which is kind of true. And he was sort of
saying the party has lost its way because it's ignoring
black voters and lower income black voters, which I hear
him say, and I'm like, Hunter, you crazy son of

(35:38):
a gun. You've got lumps of cocaine dripping out of
your nose. But I think you might be right. I
think it's true. You look at the lineup of Democrat
candidates and there ain't a one of them other than
Kamala Harris that black people like. It's true. I think

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Democrats cannot win unless they get a candidate that appeals
to black people. And Joe Biden appealed to black people
and he won. He won one election. So anyway, the
Hunter Biden interview is completely fascinating. All right. When we
return to close out the show, Hunter Biden is still
a ludicrous hypocrite. That is next on the John Girardi Show,

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The Hunter Biden Interview I just found to be completely fascinating.
This weird interview he did with this weird random independent
journalist for like three hours, or just Hunter rant. It's
like Joe Biden's ID. If you let Joe Biden's ID out,
I think it would be this Hunter Biden interview. He
looks so much like Joe, he sounds so much like Joe.

(36:48):
Honestly makes me reassess a little bit about whether Joe
Biden was whether some of the things I would chalk
up to Biden's sanility were just the Biden family just
not being the clearest of thinkers. Anyway. One of Biden
Hunter's critiques of the Democrat establishment was of this podcast
Pod Save America, which is full of former Obama staffers

(37:09):
who played a role in sort of saying, hey, Joe's
too old, we need to move on. He calls out
the Pod Save America team as quote four white millionaires
dining out on their association with Barack Obama from sixteen
years ago, and therefore says they're out of touch. I mean,
if I were a white millionaire who was dining out

(37:30):
literally only on the fact that my dad was president,
I'd maybe be a little more circumspect about calling out
four white millionaires still dining out on their the actual work,
the actual like they actually did stuff for Barack Obama.
Maybe I wouldn't be so you know, maybe I would

(37:51):
not be one to throw stones in glasshouses. Anyway, Hunter
Biden interview I thought was completely fascinating. That'll do it,
John Diroardi Show, See you next time on Power Talk