Newsom Sidesteps Reality, Acting Like 2028 Election Won't Happen

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I have been suspicious about the whole movement to renew
Measure C. And there's a news story coming out about
Brooke Ashton, who had been on the Measure C Steering
Committing Committee, was removed from the Measure CE Steering Committee
and is now I think, sort of from the outside

(00:21):
watching it like a hawk and making allegations that it's
violating the Brown Act with how it is, how the
steering committee that's going to be the steering committee in
other groups, subcommittees, I guess who are helping design Measure
C and what it's going to look like when it's
up for another vote again, I think presumably in twenty

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twenty six. He is critiquing how that process is going.
So I want to kind of break down some of
this because it deals with some stuff with California state
law that governs local governmental bodies. All Right, the group
tasked with the group that is tasked with drafting the

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new version of Measure C. And for those who don't know,
Measure C is a Fresno County sales tax to fund
road construction and transportation issues. They it has been on

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the books for a long time. It is up for
renewal very soon. I think it kind of expires in
twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven, and they need to
The thought is they local governments really want to renew
the Measure C sales tax. It's the chief source of
revenue for improving roads within Fresno County. Without that funding,

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there's not going to be enough money in local governments
to fix a lot of roads. So it's been it
has been this critically relied upon revenue source for roads.
It was proposed, I think it was last subject to
a vote in I think it was either twenty two.
I believe it was in twenty two, and it lost.

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It didn't get the necessary number of votes. And at
that time it was being opposed by local left wing
advocacy organizations who didn't like the environmental impact of Measure
C and who wanted instead something that was focused more

(02:38):
on public transportation, light rail, all of these sort of
more green ideas that are not really very helpful. That
the chief perspective that I think is most sensible from
local government figures is the vast bulk of Measure C
funding has to go towards fixing roads. That's what it
needs to go to. If you I think The percentage

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that people are shooting for is eighty percent.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Of the funding needs to go towards improving roads.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
If you mess with that percentage and divert the more
funding you divert away from fixing roads towards light rail
or buses or some light rail something that nobody is
clamoring for other than a couple of left wing activist organizations.
If you reduce funding for roads, you're just not helping

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the situation. You're helping yourself feel better for your wonderful
green feelings. Now, the problem is that when Measure CE
was put forward for a vote, it's this weird stuff
that has happened with California ballot measures that are proposed

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for increasing taxes. It's sort of the result of historic
Prop thirteen on the one hand, but then decision by
the California Supreme Court. I believe that have altered how
Prop thirteen is interpreted. I think in ways that are
fake and phony baloney. So if you are proposing a

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tax or a tax increase, you need if you are
doing a local level ballot initiative for a tax increase,
you need a two thirds majority. Measure C needs a
two thirds majority. It needs two thirds of Presno County

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voters to vote for it, which is a very high
bar and Measure C didn't get that last time. However,
if you have some entity propose a tax increase that
isn't a governmental entity if it's not the Presno Council

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of Governments proposing which so those don't know the Fresno
Council of Governments is this loose governmental organization. It's basically
a coalition of leadership from all of the cities of
Fresno County and then representatives from the County Board of Supervisors,
so like one or a couple of members from the

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Fresno City of Fresno City Council mayors or city council
members from the other cities in the San Joaquin Valley Clovis, Reedley, Sanger,
et cetera. If a governmental entity proposes a tax increase,
it has to be a two thirds approval. If a

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private entity proposes it, then it's much less. I forget
if it's just a simple majority or fifty five percent,
but it's an easier route to get it passed if
it's a private entity proposing it. The fear was that
if the Fresno Council of Governments just goes forward again
with another version of Measure C that was heavy on

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roads and gets these nonprofit groups to oppose it. The
nonprofit groups might propose a competing ballot initiative that because
they propose it, it only needs fifty five percent, that would
that would be more likely to pass than the official
Measure C and would divert funding away from roads to

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something far less helpful. So a deal got struck for
the Fresno Council of Governments and their steering committee for
drafting Measures C that they would include a huge number
of participants on the steering committee who are representatives from

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these left wing nonprofit groups. Now, these left wing nonprofit
groups don't represent a soul. The whole city of Clovis
is going to have one UNO representative. Clovis, which has
like one hundred and twenty thousand people, is going to
have one representative in this group of I think it's

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about I forget what it is. It's about twenty thirty people.
The Fresno Council of Governments is going to have eleven
representatives or something like that. I forget the exact breakdown
in numbers, but they are wildly overrepresented on this. They
don't represent anyone significant. The Fresno Chamber of Commerce has
like ah member representing it. They're like contractors on the

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steering committee. That was why Brooke Ashton was on the
steering committee. He's a contractor who helps build roads that
he has specifically relevant expertise to the subject matter at hand.
These nonprofit groups don't have any relevant expertise, and they're
there just to throw their weight around in order to
try to come up with some sort of compromise thing

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that they won't oppose. So it has left folks like
Brooke Ashion, Gary Brettefeld and others very worried that what
is what is Measure C actually going to look like?

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Is it actually going to fund roads to the extent
that we want or is it going to bend to
the will of these left wing nonprofit groups. And notably
Sandra Seladon, who is herself, i believe, running for a
California State Assembly seat, a long time left wing local activist.
This was the gal who basically commandeered the Police Reform

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Commission from poor Oliver Bains to have it have their
report just be chapter and verse everything that liberals, the
far left things about the whole defund the police movement, which,
to his credit, though he had many other flows. Paco
Balderama basically told her to go shove it, and Jerry
Dyer backed him on that. Sandra Seladan the she was

(09:10):
the gal who tweeted after the George Floyd riots that
we should burn them all down when she saw a
video of a police precinct building in Minneapolis burning to
the ground after George Floyd's death. Now she is picking
over thirty percent of the membership of the steering committee

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that's going to draft Measure SEE. And it's important to
know that the liberal nonprofit groups, they have over thirty
percent of the seats, and that's the threshold. Basically, the
way that the system is set up for the Fresnew
Council of Governments. The Steering Committee is supposed to help
draft Measure C propose it to the Fresnew Council of Governments,

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which then votes on it. But the Steering Committee can't
give a proposal unless they have at least seventy percent agreement. Well,
the liberals on the committee have more than thirty percent
of the seats, so effectively, the liberals on the committee
have veto power over the process.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
They will decide.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
So it's guaranteed that Measure C is going to be
much is going to be stupider than it has been,
That it is going to fund more useless, wasteful, non
used green you know, public transportation things that people aren't
really going to use, rather than spending that money on
fixing roads which people do use and which we do

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desperately need. Now here's the recent problem. Brooke Ashton, who
got kicked off the committee for saying that this whole
process stinks to high heaven and seemingly didn't want to
come back. I don't know the story. He's still not

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back on. I thought he would get reinstated. His nonprofit
group Group has issued a complaint that one of the
committees associated with Measure C is behaving illegally. So you
have the Presno Council of Governments, You have its steering

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committee that is helping to draft the new Measure C.
But in addition to the steering committee, they have a
facilitation Committee that sets the agenda for the steering committee.
The Facilitation Committee is being treated as if it's like

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an ad hoc thing that doesn't necessarily need to follow
all the rules that California law has for local governments
and local government meetings, right, and those rules are encapsulated
in this bit of California state law called the Brown Act,
the Brown Act. And I forget which Brown it's named after,

(12:13):
if it's Jerry Brown or his dad whatever. The Brown
Act governs local government bodies, your city council's, your county
boards of supervisors, I believe, school boards, et cetera. And

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one of the chief requirements of the Brown Act, the
chief requirement of the Brown Act is that public business
should be conducted publicly, that we shouldn't have backroom deals
made outside of the view of the people. So this
requires a couple of things. First, a majority of any city, council, county,

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board of supervisors, whatever, are not allowed to meet with
each other privately to discuss city or county business. And
I have I have seen this myself. I had one
a very edifying experience of this. I was meeting one
time with I was meeting one time, and that one

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time with two members of the Fresnoe County Board of
Supervisors to kind of to discuss my to discuss my clinic,
my clinic project that I'm doing I met with two
of the five, so not a majority. A third Fresno
County supervisor walked by down the hall and said, oh, hi, guys,
and then they said, oh, well, Brown Act. And the

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third guy said see you guys, and he left. Okay,
So it was a very edifying moment for me as
a citizen. I was like, Okay, these guys take their
job very seriously. They two got two members of the
county Board of Supervisors meeting, that's okay. Three guy meeting.
That can be more dicey. Now, you know, if the

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third guy comes by, I think just to say hello
or something.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
You know, I don't think that's violating the Brown Act.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
But it was a very edifying thing. A majority of
the County Board of Supervisors, or of the president, city council,
or of the Clovia City Council, or of this council
of governments cannot meet with each other privately, off the
record to decide stuff. They have to meet in public
city council, County Board of Supervisors meetings that are open

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to public viewing, that have published minutes. It provides greater accountability.
That's the whole idea of the Brown Act. The President
Council of Governments. Their meetings are open to the public.
The Steering Committee that is helping draft Measure C, their
meetings are open. The argument right now is that this

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Facilitation Committee, this smaller group of the Steering Committee, does
not have the same levels of transparency. And what's happening
is this is Ashtuin's contention, is that this Facilitation Committee
is the one actually setting the agenda, deciding all this

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outside of the public's purview, and that they're actually going
to be the ones drafting Measure C away from public scrutiny. Now,
some of the Measures CE people are sort of saying,
you know that, No, that's not true. That's not what
we're doing. However, Buddy Mendez, who's a president County supervisor.

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Mendez left this Facilitation Committee in July because he was
concerned that the group should be subject to public meeting rules.
He said, despite claims that the Facilitation Committee only makes recommendations,
it does set the agenda for the steering committees. So

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Mendez said, well, you can't have it both ways. Here
are you if you're not you know, if you're just
an ad hoc thing, what are you doing telling the
Steering committee what to do. Mendez said, you can't have
it both ways. Now, this is Mendez saying this in

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opposition to Lynn Ashbeck on one of my great bugaboos
in local government. Lynn Ashbec is a long, long, long, long,
long time.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Close City Council member.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
And who is I think far more liberal than she
gets credit for. Most of she's been in the news
over the last year or two mostly to talk about
how terrible Diane Pierce, the Close City Council member, is,
And it was Lynn Ashbec who helped broker this whole
deal to bring these left wing nonprofits in to the

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whole measure seed drafting process, which I think was a
mistake right from.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
The get go.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
She's saying, well, we were advised that this didn't rise
to the level of a Brown Act, a committee, a
committee that needed to be subject to the Brown Act.
If we're given different advice, then we will change. Okay,
Well I'm given some advice.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
I think if you've got an entity that's setting the agenda,
that's helping, if you've got a committee advising, a governmental
body that's making policy recommendations, helping draft policy recommendations, yeah,

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I think it should be open and transparent and subject
to all the same transparency that any other governmental entity has.
It should have minutes, it should be meeting at published
times and places. So again, it's my deep suspicion that

(18:05):
this whole thing kind of stinks and we're gonna end
up with a version of Measure C that kind of sucks.
We'll talk about that more after the break. This is
the John Girardi Show. Here's what I think is happening.
It seems to be indicated from this article in gvwire
about it, which, by the way, very good article about
this by Edward Smith in GV Wire. I think what's

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happening with the president, Council of Governments and this effort
to get these nonprofit groups into draft Measure C.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
I think it's actually a couple of things.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
I think part of the drive to bring these left
wing nonprofit groups in is to help them pass a
Measure C. The current setup with California law is that
if a tax is proposed for a vote by the

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people by a local government, if it's a local government
proposing it, then that's a very difficult bar to meet
because you need two thirds of the voters to agree
to it. It's a really high bar. If, however, it's

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attacks proposed by a private entity or a group of citizens,
If it's a citizen initiated initiative, then it's much less
than two thirds. I forget if it's fifty five percent
or just fifty percent, but it's much much, much easier.

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And I think that's the thought with this, and that
that's even admitted in the story that a lot of
these left wing groups are sort of in the orbit
of the Central Valley Community Foundation, which is head headed
now by the former mayor of Forresno, Ashley Swaringe. Swerringin
in this story in Gvwire told Gvwire the foundation's mission

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has been to preserve the splintering Measure C after a
loss in twenty twenty two. She said Measure C is
vital for county residents, and the foundation board members wanted
to bring together different interests rather than have them create
their own voter initiatives. However, I think what's happening. There's
this other paragraph in the article that explains it at issue,

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or claims that a new ballot measures in the works
for the transportation text, meaning it would no longer need
the two thirds approval when it goes before voters in
June twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
They so they.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Bring in these nonprofit groups in the hopes that they're
going to start the ballot initiative process, not have the
Presno Council of Governments or Presnee Counties Supervisors or something started.
That's but there's a two edged sword here. You bring

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in these left wing nonprofit groups who have the bandwidth,
the organization to get the signatures, you know, do what's
necessary to get something on a ballot initiative. Okay, that's great,
but now they gotta be players, and they're gonna help
draft Measure C, and they're gonna make it really stupid.
You know, you can't really increase you know, President County

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already has pretty high sales taxes, and especially depending on
where you live, like city of Clovis now has highest
sales tax in the whole flipping county. Uh, you can't
really increase the sales tax. That's not gonna fly with anybody.
So you have to keep it. You keep it where
it is. But now with that same relatively similar pool

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of money, you're gonna have all these left wing groups
who are they're gonna want if if they're gonna be
the ones bringing that vehicle before the voters. They're gonna
want their priorities, They're gonna want light rail, all this

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stuff that nobody really wants, and probably no one's gonna
use light rail, electric buses and whatnot. Like when bus
ridership is not really I don't I get the sense
that bus ridership is not super high at super high
levels right now. I just think we're we're We've set

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ourselves up strategically, I think on the wrong foot, and
I've sort of advocated from the get go. I think
Measure C probably lost in twenty twenty two because of conservatives,
not because of liberals opposing it. It lost in twenty
twenty two because there's a good number of conservatives, like
many members of the Girardi family, like often me, who

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react to a proposed tax and just categorically automatically say no.
And if you want to get Measure C passed, those
are the people whom you should and should persuade. And
Gary Bretdefeld talked about this. It's a lot of voters
in his region of Fresno County, his old city council
district in Fresno. I think strategically allying yourself with the left,

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who are gonna weaken measure c was more foolish than
allying yourself to the right and getting a really good
measure See when we return. Is Donald Trump canceling the
next election? Gavin Newsom apparently thinks so. Next on the
John Girardi Show, it's mind boggling the levels of deception,

(23:40):
the levels of dishonesty. Gavin Newsom is willing to stoop to.
But I think it's statements like the following are part
of what has really I think furthered the insanity levels
on the left because and it's two things, Okay, January

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sixth happened. Why in no small part it happened because
the group of people who were there that day genuinely
believed that a democratic election had been stolen, that the greatest, most,
the highest office in the entire country was illegitimately stolen.

(24:29):
This led them to a conclusion that something even arising
to the level of flat out uprising was an appropriate response.
When Gavin Newsom says the following, I'm not sure how

(24:51):
he can claim to have any level of moral high
ground over you know. Their critiques of the January sixth.
Here's what Gavin newsamanna say. He goes on, he goes
on Stephen Colbert, which is the Democratic Party at laughter
the Stephen Colbert Show. Although I'm not sure if there's

(25:13):
much comedy happening on the Stephen Colbert Show.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
It's I mean, like.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
You look at the list of guests Stephen Colbert has
and it's like this, it's all just Democrat like public officials,
Like where are the laughs? Like are you gonna bring
on like you know, I don't know, have Jim Gaffigan
on occasionally, like like you know, a comedian or somebody
someone to make you laugh as opposed to just left
wing political figure after left wing tonight it's Donna Schalela

(25:41):
and uh let's oh, they had Mark Kelly on Trump's
disgruntled former chief of staff who now hates Trump, like
like it's unbelievable. All right, here's Gavin Newsom talking about
how he doesn't think the twenty twenty eight elections are
gonna happen. I fear that we will not have an

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election in twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
I really mean that.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
And the core of my soul unless we wake up
to the code red. What's happening in this country, and
we wake up soberly to how serious this moment is,
which I'm not sure if that was specifically in reference
to the Jimmy Kimmel thing. Gavin Newsom is saying, in

(26:25):
the core of his being he believes there won't be
an election in twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Funny, funny.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
If he genuinely believes in the core of his being
that there's not going to be that there may not
be an election in twenty twenty eight, he sure is
doing a lot of fundraising and donor fostering and posturing
for running for president. Sure is doing a lot of
that for a guy who doesn't think there's going to

(26:53):
be an election. And that's the ridiculous thing about this.
Newsom obviously knows there's going to be an election. He
knows there's going to be an election. None of Trump's
conduct in off of the idea that Brendan Carr saying

(27:19):
one I think poorly advised thing that he probably shouldn't
have said about Jimmy Kimmel, and poorly advised and shouldn't
have said it purely in the sense that it would
have taken a complete one hundred percent w and turned
it into something that liberals could complain about. Brendan Carr,

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the chair of the Federal Communications Commission, who went on
the Bennie Johnson Show, a show that I've never heard of.
I have no idea who Bennie Johnson is or that
he has a show.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Benny Johnson, I know, Benny Goodman, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
And he says, well, maybe it's something you know that
the FCC should investigate in the public interest, given that
that Jimmy Kimmel said something that was a total falsehood,
maybe this is something that he should investigate that whether
you know that the FCC should investigate for distortion of
the news or things like that. Now, the FCC does

(28:18):
have stuff on the books about distortion of news and
investigating things in the public interest. It does have that right.
It's a very heavily criticized right. It is very heavily
hemmed in by the requirements of the First Amendment, and
it's a very antiquated system. It's this bizarre thing that

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the FCC, which is a relatively older agency, it has
this authority for some reason to regulate broadcast networks and
issue broadcast licenses to broadcasters and thus to approve the license,
they have to ensure that this is acting in the
public interest in some way, shape or form. But the

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problem is it butts up against the First Amendment, and
it's a requirement that cable channels aren't subject to that
no one on the Internet is subject to. But traditional
radio has sometimes been has been subject to, and broadcast

(29:21):
television is subject to. I mean, Jimmy Kimmel, could you
know it's a channel owned by ABC? If Jimmy Kimmel
shut down his ABC show and just aired his show
on what's another Disney owned cable property, I don't know,
on ESPN or the Disney Channel, or free Form or
one of the various cable channels that is owned by

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Disney ABC, none of that would have any impact. But
Brendan Carr says this one thing, and Democrats act as
though this is the greatest assault on the First Amendment
that's ever happened, ignoring the fact that Democrats have always
used the FCC that liberals have his historically used the
FCC to muscle out conservatives. This was a bit before

(30:06):
my time, but within radio, the whole concept of the
quote fairness doctrine, the idea that broadcasters had to in
some way, shape or form present a both sides approach
to politics, and in their political their politically oriented broadcasting
was ridiculous, and it was always a cudgel that was

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used primarily against the right, and public interest was always
defined in a way that was aligned with the left.
And I think it probably contributed to the fact that
why is all of broadcast news left wing? Why is
ABC News, NBC News, CBS News, They're all left wing?
Fox News flourished pretty much exclusively on cable. Okay, the

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only Fox News ish show that's on broadcast network Fox
is the Sunday morning show that Chris Wallace used to host,
and I think they have I don't know who hosts
it now. But Fox News was able to flourish purely
on cable. Now, so this notion that, look, I'm not

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one hundred percent And.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Look, so let's take a step back.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
There's a part of me that thinks, yeah, conservatives should
use the FCC to go after liberals. Liberals have used
the FCC to go after us for forever. We should
use the FCC to go after them. Another part of
me thinks that, well, liberals should have never used the
FCC to go after conservatives in the first place, and
maybe what we should have done is something to completely
defang the FCC as an institution, especially given how obsolete

(31:47):
it is for the most part, how useless it is,
how antiquated it is that we're going to rigorously regulate
broadcast TV but not cable just because cable got invented
after the FCC was created, and not the Internet at all.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
I don't think the FCC should necessarily exist. On the
other hand, living here on planet Earth rather than in
a pie in the sky place where a lot of
conservative commentary exists, no one's eliminating the FCC. Try to
pass a bill through Congress to eliminate the.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
FCC and see what happens. It's never going to happen.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
You're never going to get sixty votes in the Senate
to eliminate the FCC.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Never.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
So, while we occupy the free the you know, the
real world, what do we do with the FCC.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Maybe it this is one area where my like, stay
true to your principles, even when it means you have
one hand tied behind your back. Conservatism is fighting against
my fight fire with fire. Conservatism, maybe don't try to
use the FCC to go after people because it often
doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Liberals, genuinely, I think think, and I discussed this yesterday,
that the most significant story of the last three weeks
was not Charlie Kirk, that it was Jimmy Kimmel, that
Jimmy Kimmel being pulled from the airwaves for three days.
They say it's because Brendan Carr said something threatening in actuality,

(33:35):
I think it was because Sinclair and a lot of
these local broadcasters were basically saying, we're not going to
air Jimmy Kimmel unless he actually apologized. We're not going
to air Jimmy Kimmel on our local ABC affiliates unless
he actually apologizes for what he said. That was really

(33:59):
more what was going on. It was the local affiliates revolting,
and it was viewers being really upset. Now Kimmel comes
back on, the ratings are huge. Just to see what
he says after his suspension. I don't think it changes
the long term trajectory though, of Kimmel's show. Kimmel's show,
just like Colbert's show, just like Fallon's show. They are

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declining in viewership. Late night comedy shows are not what
they were under Johnny Carson or Dave Letterman or anyone
like that, or Jay Leno or anyone like that. Where
back in those days those shows were like corner stones
of their networks. They were generating a huge percentage of

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all their revenue, and they're not today. They're losing money. So, yeah,
Kimmel will get one bump from this little suspension and
being brought back. Kind of gave a sort of apology,
not really you can tell he doesn't really want to apologize,

(35:06):
but sort of gave a kind of apology and then
tried to say, well, we shouldn't point that, we shouldn't
ascribe this guy to anybody, that he was just a
total wacko and he's not representative of anybody. And I
guess that's an opinion. It's an opinion to have, you know,

(35:32):
on a certain level. Yeah, anyone who murders anybody is
kind of crazy, and you could say that this isn't
really representative of the left as a whole. I agree,
most Democrats are not willing to get a gun and
actually shoot a guy. It's representative of something though, it's

(35:53):
representative of a certain sort of left doing mindset. And
we know because there have been like two more shootings
related to this. A Sacramento ABC affiliate had some lunatic
shoot a gun at it because it pulled Jimmy Kimmel.

(36:14):
That happened just a couple of days ago. We've seen
a lot of incidents of left wing violence. Luigimnjoni killing
that healthcare executive, to Trump assassination, Steve Scalice almost killed
Brett Kavanaugh, a tempted assassination against him. And yet this
is the thing, just like I was saying with January

(36:37):
sixth at the start of this segment, when you've got
Gavin Newsom here saying Donald Trump's going to cancel the
twenty twenty eight election. There won't be an election that
raises people's threat levels to that level where they think
that violence is actually a reasonable response.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
We'll talk more about it after the break. This is
a Jantuary show.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Gavin Newsom came on Colbert's show last night and said,
it's from the core of my being, I don't think
there's going to be a twenty twenty eight election. I
think I'm afraid that there's not going to be a
twenty twenty eight election.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
He is not so afraid.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Everything he's doing is trying to get himself set up
to run for president in twenty twenty eight. No one
is more banking on a presidential election happening in twenty
twenty eight than Gavin Newsom. So the idea that, oh,
he's genuinely he's not genuinely afraid. And that's what I
hate about this. So much of the anti Trump rhetoric

(37:39):
is trying to act as though he's going to cancel democracy.
All this stuff that just doesn't have sufficient grounding. Even
if you look at January sixth, with this maximalist lens,
I just don't think. I just don't think even then

(38:02):
it's justified. And all it's doing is inflaming tensions in
the country beyond where they ought to be.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
That'll do it. John Dirolady Show, See you next time
on Power Talk