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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, what's up everybody. This is clip from dry Kill Logic.
(00:02):
Go check out our new single now You Belong with
the Dad. It's available everywhere. And you are listening to
the Kevin Powell podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hell yeah, Hello once again, It's me Kevin Powell with
the Kevin and pel Podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Here at incarceration day two. We have some shade. I
feel great. We got dry Kill Logic. How we feel good?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Man?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
How about you? Good man?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
So I think when we walked in, you guys are
playing and I can't have to figure out what's all
you're playing.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yeah, damn that energy. It's so good. I appreciate you. Man.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Do you see yourself on the big screen. Yeah, I
turn around every now and then. It's a little surreal
to see it. You made too much attention to it,
but it's wild. How's incarceration treating you?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Amazing?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
This whole thing's a dream comfort.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
It's like your feet barely touched the ground when you're here,
and everyone's been so great to Uh, it's you know,
we're just we're just super thankful to be here and
be a part of it all.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
You have a lot of fans.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I mean, when we walked in of course we saw
a lot of people in front of you, but I
was interviewing Frankie Palmiray from him, you're oh and one
of the first thing He's like, hold on.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
We went side stage and watched it from there. Fuck you.
He's like, I gotta see you, dude.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
That's awesome. So you got a lot of bands here
to love to see you. Yeah, no, Frankie, we love
Frankie to be there. They're awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, it's just so great to see Spinehank and SNY
just all these bands and I'm so excited to see somebody.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
The other ones.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
So just doped. Just go on sponging. Let me think
then you guys, just release the song with them.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
No, No, our connection of s Mindshank goes back a
long time.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So we toured with Spinehank, our first ever European runners
to Spindeshank.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
We did dates in the UK and you.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Know, the wild part of it was not how much
fun we had of the rooms that we played in
the first sponsor to the fans, but it was our
tour ended on September tenth, two thousand and one.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I was gonna say when was over there for September eleventh,
which was a wild thing to share with somebody. But
it's been a long.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Time since we've even played eyes on each other. So
to be able to see them again today, it's like
just so awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Has it been that long?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, we haven't seen them since I tour holyly different
directions and you don't find yourself in the same places
or spaces anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
And what was that reunion like?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Just you know, it's like everything it's surreal, you know,
everything is like holy shit.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It's like I haven't seen your twenty five years and
be like I haven't seen you twenty five minutes, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
But it's just really.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Great because you kind of pick up and yeah, gee,
is the last time you saw each other.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And I'm sure you guys have been in contact though,
I mean, yeah, you know here there, yes, I mean
everybody has cell phones and you kind of trade back
and forth with laid eyes on each other.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
And this in any environment, much less this environment someone
so similar to the last one.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
It's just awesome. So we just did ink what's coming
on next? What we got going on?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Oo?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
So we got about six weeks off and then we'll
be on after Shock, which we're super stoked about We're
playing on the Thursday, so super stoked about that. And
then we're gonna start writing more music. You know, we
were all excited. Releasing Now You Belong with the Dead
was really great for us kind of just I don't know,
we just kind of remembered what it was like to write.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
New spirit of being in there putting it together.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
So we're gonna start working on that, and you know,
by this time next year we'll be in the same place. Yeah,
you know, a new album and all the fun stuff.
So we want to get to a body of work.
I think that's a goal coming out of after Shock.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
So so it's Aftershock almost six weeks from now. It's over.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Second auntil your July augutime. All right, I'm sorry to
write ten weeks.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I forgot a month. Sorry, dude.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I was like, yeah, let's going I bad by Bead.
That's one of the realizes now that I've forgotten a
month the whole time you've been talking about it's all good. Yeah,
it's one of the places that we want to go to,
but like it's one of those things like, oh.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
The hell where we getting the co Yeah? Man, you know,
playing trains and automobiles. That's it. Road trip, Yeah, road trip.
Well we're gonna fly out if we can.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Oh good, Okay, Well hopefully we'll set us and I'd
love to do some budget. Sure, we'll talk autter. Everyone's like,
can you guys get to the point? Yeah? Seriously, So
new song? How long has it been since that new song?
Like you were going to rephrase this prior to a
new song? How long has it been since new music?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
The last song we released was twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
We released a song in twenty eighteen, Vices in twenty nineteen,
Don't See Ghosts.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
And then we you know, COVID and everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Took a beat, and when we received the offer to
play the festivals, we were like, you know what, it'd
be really awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
The time it went some new music, we.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Fuck, we'll do the fist thing on camera because that
was awkward, but we'll do that. We wanted to do
the song we sid written it when we did the
other songs, so this was a good time to finish
it and release it.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So I would say I was I was pointing because
a lot of bands talked to Slaughter Prevail earlier. Their
new album just dropped yesterday and I was like, Wow,
what a great opportunity that is, because you guys are
one of the headliners for one of the days. So
hell yeah, did that kind of work itself out the
same way with you or did you already kind of
have those songs in place?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
And you know this this we we had this song
written and we realized it was a good time to
finish it. Ultimately, this gave us a little bit extra conversation,
you know, the opportunity to not just play shows and
celebrate anniversaries, but also have new songs and have new
music to talk about.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
So it's a good time to finish it.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
But now I think we'd like to start the actual
writing process again, because this was kind of finishing the
song that had been around for a while, so it
was written with a different intention.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I think now we're thinking about music a little bit
of a different way. Now, what is the writing process
look like for you guys?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
You you know, Jay our guitar player, and Brendan, our
bass player. You know, they spent a lot of time
writing riffs, formulating the direction and kind of putting together
the structure and then I come in with, you know,
with some melody ideas, some lyric ideas and then we
kind of shape the song together and then it becomes
the final output.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Okay, And how how would you describe the difference between
writing now, ten years ago, fifteen years ago?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
What's that like? Which way did you prefer? You know,
it's it's a great question.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Actually, you know, when we when we were younger and
on our first record and even maybe a little bit
you know, really the first record and the demo EPs
that we had done as an unsigned band, we were
writing from a place of energy and emotion, so everything
had to be the top best, you know, but it
wasn't necessarily written around the idea of the best song
it could be, or what's the most dynamic approach we
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could take to writing music, or how do we feel
about being the best performers.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
We could be.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
We were just really wrapped up in the energy and
the inertia of the music, and I think that was
reflective of music at the time. Now we're a little
bit older and we realize we can't.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Compete with our almost like you've matured, I got obay,
and I think that that's what it is, right as
a realization that we can't compete with our younger selves.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
When it comes to energy in a motion, you don't know,
I care.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
We walked in and you play that heaviest shit song,
that energy It was the first thing I said.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
The energy was great. Yeah, no, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I think now we're also considering all of those things,
like how do we be the best version of this
band that we can be, because what we have noticed
in the twenty years that we've been away is that,
you know, folks have really grown connected to the music
and the music you know now has a meaning to them.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
And when we play it, we want to make sure
we play with the same integrity that they've been listening
to it twenty years.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
We don't want it to feel like a poor interpretation
of a song that they love, right, So think now
we really do think a lot more about the performance
and the musicianship in a way. For it was really
about the raw motion and the energy of the live
performance or the music itself.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
So we're just trying to be immature, I guess, broach it,
you know, and take advantage of the strength that we
have now. So we got after shot coming up.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
YEP, can we expect new music the rest of twenty
twenty five or we're looking at twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Twenty twenty six is safe, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I think ultimately, by the time after shot rolls around
in October, you know we're gonna you know, catch a
breath at the end of the year, keep writing, and
then hopefully by you know, spring summer of next year,
we'll be in a position to release something the collection
of songs, a body of work, the thing they call
an album, a couple of singles, you know, whatever. The
right way is to engage folks with new music. But
I think for us now, we need the music and
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has over focused on, you know, the way to release it.
You know that'll come and coming to. But we need
the music and we're inspired right now. So it feels
like a really good time. I love that you said
something that I'm not familiar with. He said, catch your breath?
What does that mean? No kidding, I don't take bright.
You're like, I don't have to explain that.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I was like, oh, I did well. First, I was
like I said that, Oh, I did.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Say, okay, what roll the safe Now he's legitimately all right,
So if you had a tour with any band, who
do be or ultiple bands who would be the universe.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
That's what I want to do, this issending the message
out of the world a mirror.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, I mean that would be ship.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
We would be honored a fucking crazy tour, you know,
I don't I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Lands today are.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So fucking heavy, Like I watched The Man that I'm like, bro,
you're so tough, like this holy shit, And so I
always wonder, like, you know, we toured with bands that
were like noticeably heavier than like might be a little
Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
To go me other these got and you're like, WHOA.
So I don't know what the right answer is.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I think I'm inspired when I see things like the
mud Vein Tour, see things like that Cold Chamber tour,
because like, historically it always feels like that audience is
in the wheelhouse of things that could maybe barry a
little bit but aren't so.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Extreme that they feel really different.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
But you know, listen, it's like, I would love to
tour with so many fucking bands that are on this
thing slaughter to veil if fucking we were at.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
A show in Wisconsin and we were watching Knocked Loose
in fucking cool and con You're like, bro, these bands
are tough, is fun and it would just be that
would be I would be something to it, like it'll
probably be on that you're been mentioning them.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Oh dude, I would know.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Man's that's fucking crazy. Just to see like they're so tough.
I'm like, yo, you got a bad ass, all right.
So I'm putting this out in the world just because
it's off to my head. I don't know what the
lineup is gonna be, but here's the tour. It's gonna be, you.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Guys, sponge shink a killer's confession instead of guts and dupe.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
There you go, all right, the bank Bank Bank Bank Bank.
I like it is something fun, that would be fun,
That would be an awesome run.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Though, If you guys had to give any advice to bands,
maybe just starting out, what would it be in why
you know, if I had to give If I had
to give advice, I would paraphrase Plato and I would
say those that last the longest are not the smartest
nor the strongest, but those who adapt best to change.
You know, the truth is right. You think you're on
one path. Where you start is definitely not where you're
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going to finish.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
And the key to success in the music business is
staying in it long enough to So if you are
running a path and you're bullish on it and you
hit a dead end, you might believe that to be
the end. But if you're flexible on your journey and
bullish on the destination, you'll find a way around it
and you'll get there, but it'll require you maybe to
look at things a little bit differently. So that's about
all I could say. I don't have any like tactical
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advice to do that, but I think if you have,
if you have a bit of a different approach from
the top down, as you think about what success looks like,
you can redefine it in ways that makes sense for you.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
When you said that, I don't know how much of
a video game nerd you are, but I feel like
my IQ points just went out. That was good. Many
final words you want to say to fans justsin we
appreciate you man Like again, it's been twenty years since
we've done anything. In the fact that we retain any
time in people's lives and that we've made it this
long and people still listen to the.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Music and come to the shows, all we could say
is thank you. You know, we're just very grateful for
all of this. None of this is lost Onne me man,
the time you spent today, times of fans spent, you know, the.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Opportunity to play the show. We're just super grateful. So
just a big thanks. What a great honor it was
to talk to this guy and we got dry kill logic.
If you miss him at ink, well you can see
him that after Shocking. If you're gonna miss him, it
out for Shock. Get ready for new music because it's
gonna be awesome. And I'm gonna figure out what that
song was. It's heavy as shit and it's really good.
But it's great talking to you. I appreciate it. See
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you next time.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
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