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September 29, 2025 • 11 mins
🔥 In this episode of The Kevin Powell Podcast, I sit down with Lizzie & Liv of Not Enough Space to talk about their brand-new album Weaponize Your Rage, playing Louder Than Life, hitting the road with From Ashes to New, Magnolia Park, and Until I Wake, plus what fans can expect from their upcoming Warped Tour and Shiprocked performances.
We dive into their dual-vocalist dynamic, writing process, and the chaotic fun of blending genres into something heavy, fresh, and unpredictable.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey guys, it's live.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
It's Lizzie and we're Not Enough Space and you are
listening to the Kevin Powell podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Hello, it's me Kevin and I have two familiar faces.
Who are you here with today? Live in Lizzie from
Not Enough Space? So you guys, you remember these guys
we talked to last year And there's definitely been a
lot of growth since last year.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Absolutely, you just put out a new album. Tell me
about that.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
It's been really cool. The album dropped on September twelfth.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's been honestly really great to seeing everybody's reactions to
it so far.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
We put a lot of, you know, really hard work
into it, so I think it's been I think it's
been pretty good. What about you?

Speaker 5 (00:40):
Yeah, it came out like literally last week. It's called
Weaponize Your Rage. It has eleven tracks on it. We
experimented a lot with Lake Sean ra Blendane and had
a lot of fun with it. We played some of
the new songs today on our set A Letter than Life,
which is really cool, and we're going to play some
more on our tour with from Ashisanumgley Park and.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Until a week started start, it's like what literally on Saturday. Yeah,
it's on Saturday, amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
We got to start the tour here and let it
then life and then and the tour at WP tour.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, it's like a fun oreo.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Is that like a hometown show? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Oh yeah Orlan right, yeah yeah absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
So I want to know what's the biggest difference between Orlando.
So it's hot today. I had to change.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
I met car cameick, and I had to change back
into this. You guys are from Florida and it's like
dry heat up here. Which do you prefer?

Speaker 4 (01:32):
And why?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
I mean, you guys are here for this here. I
it's so hot in Florida right now. Like we got
up here and walked out of our RV last night
and we were.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Like, wow, it feels so fucking nice. Like I woke
up this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
It was like six o'clock when I woke up this morning,
walked out of the RV to grab my stuff, and
I was like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
I was like, the air is crispy. The air is
crispy up here. It's so nice. I was like, oh
my god, it's like actually you.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Like breathe through your nose and like, yes, so you
guys have an interesting dynamic with the two vocalists. I
have musicians that watch and listen to this. So how
do you guys go about writing new music? You have
that new album? How did you guys go about doing
this with the two vocalist dynamic? Does someone do most
of the lyrics, some of the lyrics a little bit
of culmination of both. How do you guys go about it?

Speaker 2 (02:18):
It's all kind of a song by song basis, so
it like, yeah, it genuinely does depend on the song.
Like there's some songs where Lizzy and I are both like, hey,
what's your idea, and then she's like, well I have this,
and then I'm like, oh, well this is my idea.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Let's mesh them.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
So we like Lizzie and I don't ever have problems
writing lyrics together, right you guys, Yeah, well we work
together so well, yeah, this is like my sister. So
it's it's so easy to like work together and just
come up with something.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Now, Like for Primitive, Lizzy had that song all written out.
I think I just wrote like the breakdown.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I think that's too Yeah, I wrote verse two and
then I'm Gonna kill You.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, it was really yea like it was her part.
It's funny because you can tell it has like the live.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
Qualities, and yeah, are ualities. It's just it's just like
she likes. She likes like the death core kind of vibe.
But like you can definitely tell, like I didn't grow
up listening to death course, and not a lot of
my lyrics have those like aggressive undertones as much you
gotta get aggressive, but I was more like post hardcore
metal core, so my lyrics feel more like a Tumblr post.

(03:22):
Like one time I got this really offensive comment many
years ago somebody said that my writing sounds like a
black and white Tumblr post from twenty twelve, and I
thought that was hilarious.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
I would have taken it as more like fuck.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
You, but also like the most descriptive chaos. You're just like, oh,
fuck fuck that bitchup. Yeah, hell yeah, fuck them up
in the most sadistic way. Let's do it. I'll take
it honestly.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
I was a deathcore kid, so like you have to
think listening to Chelsea Grin or like job for a cowboy,
you're getting like the gorious, nastiest lyrics. It like it
taints your brain as as a kid that was all
I listened to in middle school and high school, and
I definitely think it shows. But we do work together really,

(04:08):
really well when it comes to lyrics. Like I said,
Lizzie had Primitive written out and then I wrote Solace
with Tristan and then like it just goes, you know,
back and forth for the most part.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Now with this album, after those two singles, how did
this progress? What was the writing process for these eleven tracks?

Speaker 1 (04:25):
I don't know, I mean it was.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
I feel like it was pretty effortless, to be completely honest.
We did it in a couple of sessions, but we
were really lucky that we didn't have to do all
of it all at once. So the writing process started
at the end of February and twenty twenty four. We
knocked out two songs that week, and then we came
back the summer of twenty twenty four for like the
whole month.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
We had a week off though, but it was two
weeks two weeks, so that was pretty brutal.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
But we got the most meat out of that session
and that's where we decided that we wanted to take
a multai genre approach to this album, which has been
really interesting.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
At first, we were against it. We're like, fuck this,
we don't want.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
To be soft.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
We're like we're at pussys.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
But then we're like, wait a second's kind of cool
to get people whiplash while they're listening to an album.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
It's it's cool to be unpredictable.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
It's cool also to be just more relatable in different
settings and different vibes, like at the end of the day,
like we're not all super angry, so we have other influences.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
So it was cool.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
And then our last writing session was the fall of
twenty twenty four, and that's where we just kind of
wrapped everything up and tied tied the little bough and not.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Only how did you guys decide on the release day?
Where is it? Like, hey, we're gonna play a lower
in life, let's release it around that. How it happened.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Oh, we didn't have like any control over like when
we were releasing it. We kind of just let like
the label decide. Label knows best, honestly, and this is
our first label experience. And mind you, like, we love Thriller,
like they're all amazing, but we kind of wanted to
hear their thoughts on it. So when they were like
let's do it in the fall. Like we just were

(05:57):
like fuck, yeah, okay, we're going.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
Sure, we had enough room to like give the singles
to breathe. So like a lot of our discussions were
like how many weeks apart did we want between each single?
So eventually the math just mathed out and it was like, well,
it now lands in September.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
So you guys still had a little bit of say
on when.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, Like if we saw that we wanted like more
time for a single to breathe.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
We could say so that's good.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
A lot of different labels out there, a lot of
bits I've talked to you on different labels, So I'm glad
that thrill or at least you know, except to you
guys to what you want to do, and it's willing
to work with you, and I'm just likely, no, this
is what you're doing.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
No.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
They're very open minded, and they've been around for a
really long time, so like they understand the scene. They
didn't just like show up one day and be like
I think I know what I'm doing. It's like no,
they've literally experienced all of it.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Oh good, that's really cool. Awesome.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
What was the favorite song to play loud in life
and why if you both have the same one.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
It's all right, but we need to know.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
I think for me personally, it was double f me
on Red. Okay, I feel like that song always goes
really hard.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
I was just today, that's the thing. Yeah, that's so hard. Okay.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
Yeah, for me, it's tied between Devil and Primitive. Primitive
was really cool because we have a little section where
we have the crowd sing along, and Tristan like gave
us like this like cue at the beginning, like when
we didn't know what to expect.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
He's like, all right, when we do the cue for.

Speaker 5 (07:14):
Sing along, if you see that, nobody's singing along, just Lizzie,
you just sing.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
All of it.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
I'm like, that's so awkward though, because the song hasn't
even started, like we do like like an intro to
the intro essentially right before, but like two hours before,
and it was like, well, I don't know, it's expected,
like we're playing at twelve fifteen. So it was amazing
that we were blown away that people did know the
words at twelve fifteen, Like the crowd was so lovely
and supportive and energetic at twelve fifteen. Do you, like,

(07:41):
I don't wake up on time for anything, So I
thought that was impressive.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
It was crazy.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
That was also like the biggest crowd that we've ever
played to before, so I think it was genuinely very
heartwarming being able to see so many people know the
words to our songs, Like everybody that was up in
front was singing everything.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
And it was awesome.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
It was awesome for sure, and we recognized a lot
of those people like from shows on tour, so it
was a lot of people that were like.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Oh, we see you, and it was so cute. It's
so awesome.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
Now not live favorite song off the record.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
And Why Devil Left Me on writ or Kille Repeat
those are those are the two heaviest songs on the album.
I am a deafcore kid at heart, but I'm also
a hardcore kid. Those are my two favorite, like subgenres,
I guess, oh.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
My god, I hate the heat. Yes, those are my favorite.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
Yeah, Devil love Me I read as our baby, Like
we got so excited writing it. We were like picking
up food for the writing session and we were like,
what if we did this? And we were very inspired
by Chelsea Grint and we both love Chelsea grint, So
it was like such an easy process. We were just
like hell yeah, and we just wanted to be demons.
That's all we wanted to be. Was just like because
I like to say, like let's just pick a character,
and we just wanted to be creepy demons for the song.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
And it was fun.

Speaker 5 (08:59):
So only Devil and then like I would say, like
I would say, like Primitive is the og, but like
Weaponize is definitely like it's definitely just like the perfect
song to start an album.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
So I'm gonna say Weaponize. I have to add I
have to add Solace in there that one. That one's
one of my top favorites. So I picked Devil.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
You guys picked a lot nice arimative.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
But the whole project is our baby, and we had
like a whole year of like growing with it, so
we all have like our own level of appreciation.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
For the songs.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Now as vocalists, what do you guys individually do to
get ready for a show, get ready for a festival?

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Me, personally, I eat a fuck ton of food, genuinely,
like I have to, yeah, I well, genuinely, I like
I have to go on stage with a full stomach
or I feel like I like can't perform my best okay,
and then like just like simple vocal warm ups. I
don't like to do anything too extensive because I don't
want to like burn out before where I go on stage.

(10:00):
So I'll do like five to ten minutes of vocal
warm ups and then.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Yeah, I agree with the warm ups, Like I'm comfortable
forming up my singing voice, but for screaming, I'd rather
just be like, let's save the juicy parts for the set,
just because, like, especially on tour, you just want to
preserve like your screaming voice just because they're you're using
different muscles at the end of the day. And my
ritual is kind of mundane and live and everybody gets

(10:26):
to see it. I just keep a shit ton of
grilled chicken on me at all times. So I just
protein the fuck up, okaycause I just want to make
sure I have the endurance for the set. But also
it helps with vocal repair, just having like a high
protein diet.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
So I'm getting a lot.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Of different answers from Vocalist this weekend, and I'll tell
you what, this is the most fun unique one. So
like keep the protein up, keep the chicken in the
pocket and eat or sing with a full stomach.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
What can fans expect from not No Space in twenty
twenty six?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
So, like we said earlier, we are going on tour
with Framashes to New Magnolia Park and Wake, and then
we are playing Orlando Warp Tour and we are playing
ship Rocked as well. And then we have a couple
of other things that we're working on, but I'm going
to keep them quiet for right now.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
All secrets for now, but it'll be pretty exciting. And
then we'll also start writing again soon, So LP two
is in the work soon.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
Nice. Any final words you want to say to fans.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
We love you, guys, We love you.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
Thank you for listening, thank you for supporting us, Thanks
for making everything so special all the time.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Lizzie Live. I hope we get to talk again.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Hire great, good luck with the tour, good luck with
Warped tour. Hope you get to rest a little bit
but then get right back into the grind twenty six.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Thank you, thank you for your time and thank you
for having us.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yes, you're welcome. We'll see you guys next time.
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