February 3, 2025 • 50 mins
Welcome to the London Club Council! The FAN's Brett Blakemore and Robbie Rosenhaus are opposing fans in England's biggest rivalry. They talk about Spurs getting a great deal over the line, Arsenal embarrassing City, and the rest of the big 6!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
We're at it again. Welcome to another meeting of the
London Club Council. Now representing Tottenham Hotspur in this corner
we do have Brett Blakemore and repping Arsenal is Robbie Rosenhaus.
So boys, let the banter begin.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Welcome into another edition of the London Club Council. I'm
Brett Blake Mara, I present Tottenham Hotspur and with me
is Robbie Rosenhaus, who represents that club that goes by
the name of Arsenal that nobody likes. Robbie, how are you.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I'm doing okay and you are as well as.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I'm doing fantastic, bringing.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
In new players and bringing in three points, which for
the first time this calendar year is a welcome side
for Tottenham. We'll get to them in the second half
of our podcast. But the smile that you have currently
on your face ear to ear with one dimple on
the left and one dimple on the right may have
you advancing to Wembley in just four days time.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
But before we.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Get to all of that, the biggest news besides the
transfer window was Arsenal's five to one win on Sunday
at home against Manchester City.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Now we can look at.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Kind of just the micro view in the macro view,
and I want to spend more time on the macro
view because looking at the game, I mean, for the
first sixty to seventy minutes of the game, City were
in it. I mean, it was, it was, you know,
it was. It was one nil very quickly. And then
Holland scored in the second half to make it one one.
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But then immediately you had Partey come down and the
crowd was urging him to.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Shoot, and I was not.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
I wanted him to pass it, and he ends up
scoring off of Stones's back for a deflective goal. And
then later on they ended up getting three more, which
I mean, excuse me, two more with Kai Havertz and
then one area to finish it off. But all the
those goals are icing on the cake, and they were
really nicely taking goals the Havers one and one Airy
one who's eighteen years old, and Lewis Kelly who's sevent
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I mean just nineteen and eighteen years old.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Be that as it may, rookie numbers.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Looking at just the macro view of it and seeing
this as that, I'm not going to get way too
excited because while it may be other than the FA
Cup win against Chelsea a few years back, oar Ted's
greatest achievement, especially since its pupil against Mentor. I see
these as two ships passing in the night, and I
mentioned this to you off air right before we got taping,
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and that despite a few kind of scratch your head
draws Villa Everton, they're the only Premier League team this
year in the league to not lose a game at home.
So while they sit six points back and Liverpool have
that game in hand, and now City are way oh
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back of them with a fight just to get in
the top four. As somebody who hates Arsenal doesn't really
care for City from a ten thousand foot view, do
you see it the way I see it, where it's
kind of City needing to reload and we'll get into
the transfer window a little bit. They brought in a
few players, including a midfielder, a couple of midfielders, one
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Marmouche from Frankfurt. But do you see this as Arsenal
kind of passing them and staying ahead of them for
the foreseeable future.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, I don't want to be to not give you
guys any credit because that's just not fair. I mean,
you guys battered them, especially in that second half. First
half I thought was pretty even from what I saw,
they had some chances. But once that second half, once
the snowball got rolling down the hill, I mean, there
was just no stopping it. It just kept building and building.
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City are such a weird club this year because it
feels like they do need to reload, right, and it
feels like they need to I don't know if it's
changed something. I mean, obviously PAP's not going to go anywhere.
I just signed a new deal, and why would he
even if he didn't sign a new deal, why would
he go anywhere. He's got all the money, He's got
the money of God basically to bring in whoever he wants.
But at something has gone wrong in the locker room.
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Whether it's you know, just a mojo or a morale
thing or I don't know, but they've been a weird
team all year long. But that being said, you know,
not a lot of teams have beat them by four goals.
Just the two of our clubs this year have beaten
them by four goals. There may have been some others,
but that's that ruins the bit, so we'll just say
that our only two clubs to do it. But they've
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been it's just been a weird, weird year for them
and they're certainly not winning the league like that's done
as far as I'm concerned, they're out of the race.
It's still Liverpool's league to lose. But a big step
forward for your club too to be able to put
up those goals without the kayosaka, which is something that
you haven't been able to do all them in open
play as well as a big deal. I love Odegard
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setting the tone Havertz made up for his colossal miss
which had everybody going and throwing him under the bus.
So I think it's a very very very good win
for you guys, and I don't know passing them in general,
maybe not because they could somewhat reload passing them for
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this twenty four to twenty five season, absolutely without a.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Doubt, and it'll be interesting to see how City do
in a few of these cup competitions where they take
on Real Madrid because they were unable to qualify for
the top eight, and that should be a very spicy
two leged tie that will get this month in addition
to some other very very interesting European matchups, not only
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in the Champions League but in Europa League.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Arsenal's form I think it just has.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Had a couple of blips, but their squad for the
most part, other than Sokka uh and obviously Ode guard
being being out and Ben White out long term, you know,
we forget about him too. He was a big integral
part of what they did the first half of the
season and obviously last season a big part of kind
of what they do down that right flank.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
But to Kai Hortz and you mentioned him missing that
sitter early on, that would have made it to nail
or too. To Nil, I should say.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
He does so many good things in the match that
people don't kind of grasp onto that all they want
to criticize him for is his lack of either a
big goals or b his nose for the net. As
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a proper number nine, I personally do not view him
as that out and out number nine. They still need
to get him, and I think that they're in the summertime.
Eddie and Cattio was never it and he scored one
goal in I believe I was never and I was
proven right on that, because he hasn't he hasn't pulled
up any trees at palace, So I was correct on that.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I know you do you.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
It's so weird. I don't I don't get. It's one
of those like British idioms I will never understand.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
But yeah, anyways, well that and it's it's a squeaky
bum time, which is which means it's uh, it's like this,
that's the two minute warning in an NFL.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, and it's a and it's a tie game, it's
squeaky bomb time. But average does so many good things
in a game off the ball and even his layoffs.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
And I mean you saw, like in a split second listen,
he did not finish when he should have. But when
Arsenal scored their first goal ninety seconds in, he was
the guy laying it for Rodiguard. Now it wasn't the
best pass, but he made the right decision because I
thought he was gonna shoot. And when he turned back
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and squared it for oder guard and Oderguard put it in,
I was baffled. I could not believe he didn't shoot
because in that spot I actually thought that the right
move was to shoot because he was six yards out
from the net, so he made the right decision there.
He's played the most minutes of any Arsenal player that
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isn't a defender this season or Riyah, so he's been
running to the ground. He's clearly a favorite of Arteta's.
He's gotten a lot of kind of grief and I
just think Brett that he's a better player than people
give him credit for. I know people like to crap
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on him because of the missus, but I just think
overall he's a really, really talented footballer.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I mean, you've been consistent on that, and everyone else
has been consistent on saying that he's not good. So
I think we're just at an impasse at this point.
So yeah, I don't I don't think he's as good
as you think he is. I don't think he's as
bad as you know, like say, our good friend Malina
thinks he is, but I would lean closer to her
than I would you. So that's because he's just got
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so many misses and mistakes in him. But he does
have a nose for the net and he a lot
of times finds himself in the right place at the
right time, and hey, that's part of the game. You know,
that's probably being a good striker, so I can't rip it.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
But yeah, well, speaking of the middle of the park,
and and and one more kind of overriding thought on
Arsenal is.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
How good they were in the middle of the park.
Forget for forget.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Oder Garby's I didn't think that necessarily it was his
best game.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
He gave up the ball a lot, but there were.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Two guys that were playing behind him that were just
absolute rock stars. You had to parte and you had
Declan Rice. And the way that they boss the midfield.
I mean Phil Foden. I don't even think he did
one thing in the game that was impactful. They were overrun.
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I mean, it was pretty simple how Arsenal were playing City.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Go ahead, City, you can have the ball kicking around,
that's fine, no problem. They did nothing with it. Arsenal
would take it back, go the other way and score
a goal. It's it was. It was pretty simple. And
this is not the Tottenham of the Tottenham game.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Well yeah, well no, well not just that, but yes,
because that's why Tottenham won that game by so many
goals is because they played into their hands.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Tottenham just sat there.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
They let them play and then all of a sudden, boom,
there goes On, Boom, there goes Madison, like.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
You know, that's exactly what Arsenal did. Boom, there goes Haver.
Its like even late you know, with one.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Area, I mean on that they were pinging the ball around,
uh and doing the old as and this is the
semi champs. So that was that was quite embarrassing for that.
I mean, I've had olays done to Arsenal before. It
is not fun. It is not fun whatsoever. But again
I think we've kind of uh covered Arsenal. Uh, you know,
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take off the touchdown here. They have a good result
in the league, they're gonna they're gonna have a couple
of weeks to what's that party?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
What party? Shouldn't be on the pitch? Well, not until
this whole thing is is over, because.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
It again, he shouldn't be on the pitch.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
You don't have to say a statement off you don't
want I'm saying it, he shouldn't be on the pitch, but.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Okay, and that's and you can text that in every time.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
He shouldn't be.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I don't I don't know all the details surrounding everything
that happened, but if what is proven is to be true.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Of course he shouldn't be playing.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
The facts remain he is. I think he's leaving at
the end of the season. I think he's going to
Saudi Arabia to get away from it all.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Oh no, I think, yeah, no, could I.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Think I think he's out the door because I think
Arsenal is going to bring in super Mendi from.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
The Extra Night from Spain. Yes, well, there you go.
I mean, there are no players that have gone to Spain.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
We just had a nineteen year old go to Spain
from aston Villa for exorbitant amount of money. So the
Habard's opinion aside, Arsenal sit in a good spot. They'll
get soccer back, they'll get Ben White back. They'll have
two weeks off, almost two weeks off when your lot
is playing in the in the FA Cup. Their last
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match before that break will be this week in the
Caravel Cup against Newcastle trying to overturn a two nothing deficits.
So we'll see if they can do that. There's no
real preview that we need to kind of provide here.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I mean, it's unlikely.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Yeah, they need to go up there. It's unlikely. I mean,
if they get the first goal, then it's game on.
But if they allow the first goal, I truly believe
they're not going to get three.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I can't. I can't see them getting three on the road.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I mean teams have gone up there on Newcastle, so
a weird team sometimes, but they can turn it on.
Uh in a in a heartbeat. So right now got
into my head. Do I see Arsenal advancing? No, but
stranger things have happened, Brett.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You know what's the good news for Arsenal though, and
that tie. A two goal lead is the most dangerous
lead in football.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Is absolutely it absolutely is, and you have to always
be aware in the back of your head that that
too nothing lead is dangerous.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I always love that one.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
So I do wanna do you feel like we've covered Arsenal?
Do you feel like there's anything? Absolutely because you didn't
do anything. We are recording after the deadline is over.
The deadline you've done that.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Haven't I was I was gonna kind of get into
Arsenal a little bit when we talked about Tottenham's acquisition
of Matthias Tell but just a just a quick note
on the inactivity of Arsenal. DISI transfer window. There was
only one position that they were targeting, and it was striker.
Everybody in the world knows that they need help upfront
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with Jay suss Out and the fact that they sold
in Keatsya and they didn't keep Allagoon and Habert is
int at number nine and.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
They just they just have a lack of depth at
that position. But I think the long term view is
that they're going to get Benjamin Sesco from Leipzig in
the summer. He wasn't coming here. Now.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
They've been on Ali Watkins. You saw that, so at
least they made an effort. I don't know if it
was half harded or not. It would have been interesting
to bring in a twenty nine year old, but he
is clearly Premier League tested because he scored all these
goals for Villa, so it's not like he would have
had to get adjusted. He would have walked right into
the Arsenal team and it would have been fascinating to see.
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But once Duran went from Villa to Saudi Arabia, that
was the end of that. So I think Sesco's coming
in the summer. Think another midfielder's coming in the summer.
They're gonna get Ben White back, they'll have soccer healthy,
but you're not mad at all. I think going into
next season they'll be ready to go uh and make
a full fledged charge barring health.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
At the title.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Right now, obviously it's an uphill climb the six points
behind with down a game in hand. I do not
express a high level of disappointment that they didn't go
out and get somebody.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Because anybody I think that.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
January is where you sometimes throw good money after bad.
There's a lot of kind of panic deals. Arsenal have
done this in the past numerous I'm not going to
go through.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
The players because.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
You've hit the because you hit the who button like
seven different times. But they brought in Swedish midfielders who
had back problems and never played for the club. They
brought in Spanish defenders and midfielders who were on loan.
I mean, it's it's it's either I believe it's feast
or famine. With the January transfers, you're either getting somebody
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who's gonna like I think Marcus Rashford is gonna go
to Villa and really help them, Like I actually rate him.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I think he's a good player.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
You know, he scored twenty goals a few years ago
in the Premier League for for a big club. Like
he's still and he's still young, so I think the
pressure will be less and he may be on big wages,
but I think he's he's got big talent and I
think he's gonna help them a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
But I am not think it's a little bit. I'm
not upset. I'm not upset.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I'm not upset, like I just you know, and it's
not like here in the States, where you know you're
trying to fill a need for like a left defenseman
or or or a left wing and it's like you know,
you need them for the for the playoffs, you know,
for a different a different kind of player for the playoffs,
like this is the squad like this there are no
playoffs like this is like I I, I just don't
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think plus any any Plus, they couldn't do another domestic
loan because they have two already, with Sterling from Chelsea
and with Netto from Bourne with the backup keeper, so
they couldn't do that. They they may have explored doing
an Evan Ferguson loan from from Brighton, but he ended
up leaving and I believe going to west Ham on
a loan.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
In a perfect world, Brett, yes, of course I.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Want them to bring somebody in, but I don't want
them bringing somebody again that doesn't guarantee success, Like bringing
in a body doesn't guarantee success. And I don't want
to bring in somebody just to bring in another body.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
They showed yesterday, I know they're not.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I mean, did you see even when Ari yesterday, I've
talked about the I've talked about the Saints. Come on,
I've talked about this eighteen year old kid for a
while now, and he's got everything there. Now he's not
a proper number nine. He should be playing on the right.
But I mean right now they're they're having a hard
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time obviously feeling that they could play a false nine.
I think yesterday they they did a They did a
good job of really disguising, uh, kind of where they
were playing some of the some of the players in
midfield in a confused city, and and and and gave
them a lot of a lot of turnovers which they
turned over and and came the other way with uh.
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Like I said, Brett, in a perfect world, yes, but
I can't criticize them after they just beat the defending
champs five to one.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Like they they sit in a great position in Champions League.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
We didn't even mention that they qualified just like your
team did for the automatic stages, which is which was key.
That's what we both wanted. That's what you you targeted
for four months ago when we started this group stage.
We need to finish in those top eight spots. So
that way, A, you're not playing those two games, you
don't have the jeopardy of falling out, and B you're
you're set up where you know you're in the final
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sixteen and there and both teams are. So you know,
being out of the f A Cup was a big
bumber because it's just you listen, it happens. You know,
you're playing against the tan man side. He can't break
them down. It happens in a one game scenario. You know,
if they played that game three more times, Arsenal would
win at least two of the three.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
If that were Spurs, we'd be doing a whole Has
anyone seen Tottenham? Oh they blew it again against the
ten man side against the in the f A Cup.
Blah blah blah blah. But it happens.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
We've had enough.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
We've had enough laughs of Tottenham's expense this year late
late late late Tiang Goles and Galatasarai late.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
T there was the year, yeah, I mean just yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
That was just domination in Turkey, yeah, Turky.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah, losses to Ipswich, I mean yeah, not good.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
But but we we are going to get into your
club because I'm fascinated with the with the business that
they've pulled off.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And and we'll see.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
What Arsenal do again this week as we kind of
wrap up the conversation there against Newcastle and then they'll
have ten days off and then they'll come back. I
can play Lester the following Saturday lunchtime, so they get
the early slot on the fifteenth of February, as the
Premier League will pick up after an FA Cup weekend.
But now to your club, and they clearly were one
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of the busier teams in the Premier League this transfer window,
and the fans were calling for it, the media was
calling for it. I mean, and and Arsenal while they
don't have injury issues and you're asking me whether or
not they should have brought somebody in. Your club obviously
has a ton of injuries from the front to the back,
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and that obviously includes keeper as well. So to start
here before we get into because getting that three zero
win was a nice confidence boost in the league, it
doesn't do anything for me when it comes to uh
their kind of league position in vaulting themselves back into
contention to maybe finish, finish, finish in the top ten, right.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
But what it's absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Well, I was good, right, and that's and you finished
my thought there was. While while it doesn't really affect
him in the positive, in the in the in the
climb up, it does affect him in that it does
give them quite a bit of a buffer between where
they sit now and any danger of.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
The R word.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Cort.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
So your club today and for the last couple of
weeks have kind of dripped information as to different players
that they were targeting, and it's I think it was
for you refreshing to see them not only bring in
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a keeper, not only bring in a defender, but now
bring in a left winger on loan and take him
for a test drive where it's either nothing or five
million dollar loan fee.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
And now you can buy him.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
For a fixed price where if he goes out and
scores ten or fifteen goals, like, you're not going to
pay you know, Munich's not going to hold you up
for another thirty or forty million.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
So is this the best of both worlds for you?
Speaker 4 (22:11):
And are you excited about getting a new attacking player
in and kind of taking him for a test drive.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
So that was that was the goal. That was what
we saw when the window first started. They wanted a keeper,
which they moved right away for Kinski, who for the
most part has been good against you guys. I thought
he let in a couple of softies, but those are
good shots as well. I saw, I saw. I'm happy
with him until the Carrio gets back. I don't know
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much about Kevin Danscow or Dan so excuse me. Dan
Scow just sounds cooler, but I don't know much about
him and says that he fits in perfectly, And of
course he's not gonna say he doesn't fit in, you
know what I mean? But just in time because Radio
dragashin towards ACL so naturally, one in, one out, that's
how it goes. But hopefully he will be back. I
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think they saved him for the Liverpool game. But this
whole tells situation. It is fascinating to me because, like
you were saying, they were dripping out information. So it
started with he rejected him straight out, doesn't want to
go to Spurs. Who would want to go to Spurs?
I don't want to go to I'm waiting for United,
I'm waiting for Chelsea, blah blah blah. So I'm like,
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all right, well that's done. So then you see Levy
flies out there, still gets rejected. It's like okay, and
then all of a sudden, out of the blue, here
we go to Spurs and it leaks out that they
had a lengthy tyes Tell and Ange pasta Cogloo. Big
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Ange himself had a lengthy quote lengthy phone call and
that apparently convinced him to do a complete one eighty.
I'm here to tell you the ang Out people, this
is undeniable evidence that he should still be in the
project and building this project. You're telling me a a
nineteen year old who plays for Bayern was convinced in
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a phone call to play for Spurs. You tell him,
find me another manager that can do that. It's just
he's one trophy's everywhere he's been. So I'm absolutely over
the Moon. I don't know how he's gonna be from
my research, he's more of like he wants to be
a true number nine and be in play at top,
but he can play out wide either right or left.
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But that's allegedly how they're gonna use him. He wanted
playing time. That was his biggest thing, I guess and
has probably made some There's plenty of playing time to
go around at Spurs because we've got a bleep ton
of games and not a lot of time and not
a lot of bodies to play him, So he'll get
all the time he wants. And then briefly I wanted
to mention too. I wanted to mention the the matches.
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I'm not gonna do a full exits and his breakdown,
but against Elfsburg to clinch three Academy players, Dan Scarlett,
Mikey Moore and a guy whose name I still haven't learned,
but I will learn shortly because I don't think it's
a jaia. I believe it is. Don't even know how
to say it, but I love the guy. All of
his reactions post match were great, so I'm gonna know
his name. You love to see that. And then the
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game against Brentford. I don't want to hear anymore that
Andrew doesn't have a plan B and Jamie Carriger's bs
that's coming out of his mouth. He's quickly becoming one
of my least favorite people in football period. Guy stinks
like he is saying that he'd be shocked if we
managed to get a point out of Brentford and don't concede,
you know, less than three goals. Like, piss off, Jamie Carriger.
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He sucks. So he said that on the broadcast. Robbie said, well, yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Well you'll get your chance this week because.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Uh oh, wouldn't that be delicious?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
He is, he is a mister Liverpool, but go ahead, B.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, anyways, but he did. There's one thing that's stuck
in my craw about that win against Brentford, and I
loved it. I'm happy that we broke the Premier League,
you know, uh losing streak and we got three points.
There was breathing them all that, but I was looking
at the you know a lot of the comments and
online Spurs fans and they're saying that's how you grind
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out a win, and you'd sit back. You were saying
it earlier you sit back and you play defense and
you absorb and then you go. And even Am said afterwards,
like I've only got eleven players, like, we gotta do
what we gotta do. Basically, that's that's what everyone's been
calling for. So whatever, I'm here to tell you. If
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we get our health and it sounds like we're gonna
get a lot of people back within the next two weeks,
ten days is the number that everyone keeps throwing around
for most of the guys out. If we get everyone back,
we should not ever be playing like that again. And
a story period like, to me, Spurs should play the
way Tottenham supposed to play, which is attacking, beautiful football,
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And I don't it makes me uneasy how how quickly
people were just oh, that's fine, well there you know,
we're we're back to the way we should be playing,
which is defensive football, which is a complete I called
Ricky Sacks a fraud right to him because he was
calling for that, so you know, I stand by it.
It's just it it makes me uneasy that it's it's
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always the grass is always greener, right, we're playing two
attacking football now, But when Conte was are we're playing
two defensive football. It's just I don't know, just stick
with ange let Ang's cook. No other manager with one
phone call could convince someone to leave Byron to come
to Spurs. So I'm all in and that's that's pretty
much my Tottenham rant. I'm very happy with this signing
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and Tottenham Spurs are on their way to Wembley hopefully.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Well we'll see because they have a huge match this
week coming up at Anfield and.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
They save Vicky for it despite.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
The the one nothing deficit. A lot of people are
picking Liverpool to advance, so I shocker there. I wouldn't
be surprised if somehow, some way your club found their
way to Wembley, because just in this weird season of
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ups and so many downs for Tottenham.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
This just the anticipation.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Would lift the spirits of the club and I think
lift the performances and lift the fans and kind of
get your club back and get the harmony and be harmonious.
And I think everybody would rally around the fact that
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they kind of slayed the best team in Europe right
now in a cup competition. Yeah, and while it may
not be their most important and they have their eyes
on two prizes this year, well four, but really obviously
too big. Well, the two big ones meeting Premier League
and Champions League, that's what I met. I met those
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the two big ones for Liverpool where they sit at
the top of both tables and they're looking to get both.
This cup competition to them while it's important and it's
a trophy, nobody like I'm not going to come on
here next week and say that, oh you know, it's
just a cup competition and you know Liverpool didn't field
their best place.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
No, they're fielding an all die and there. Now, if
something happens in the match.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Where I don't agree with where you benefited from bad
call or something, then I'll yell and scream. But if
they beat them straight up, far and square, just like
Arsenal beat City straight up, far and square on the weekend,
there's nothing you could say.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
There's nothing I can say about it.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
The fact remains is that over two legs your club
put in two efforts where I mean and the and
the first effort was really good. I mean they played
really well. I mean listen for the last fifteen minutes
of the game Liverpool. I remember like they had three
or four excellent chances, including one that was cleared right
not not off the line, but in the box. Somebody
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blocked the shot that was that was going in HM
one of the defenders I can't remember exactly.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Some maybe been Davies. Somebody blocked the shot and I
can picture the play. So I mean, going up there
at one nil and then one one is totally different.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Everything, I like everything you've had to say about your
new signing and about your club right now, and about
Ange and the fact that you're behind him, But I
don't get that sense from kind of everybody still.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
National media hates him on.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Social media and kind of just the media. I mean
the media media hates him. Then they they loved him
at first and now they don't.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
They don't really care for him because he's he's his answers.
He's either he's either sarcastic or he's just he just
doesn't want to answer the question and he's.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Well, then stop asking him the same question five times
every press conference and multiple again you didn't ask, but
that's what they do.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Don't shoot the messenger.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I get that, but they literally every press conference. So
is this the game you're finally going to be more pragmatic,
and he's got a I mean imagine two years of that.
You know, I don't blame it for being prickly obviously, Still,
you know the players, Decky came out and said it
that he's the right man, Romero did, Sonny did, and
obviously tell things that he's the right guy because he
got convinced from a freaking phone call. So the media
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can go piss off as especially Jamie Chrrigher, like I said,
and Tim Howard. Tim Howard can eat it as well.
So I can't stand listening every time Tim Howard has
an opinion on like a foul a penalty shout anything.
I'm always on the other side of what he's got
to say. And I am like that is clear, Like
I'll say, that's clear as day a penalty, and Tim Howard, Yeah,
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that's never a penalty for me. It's not nowhere. It's
just like he's always on the wrong side of everything.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
So this podcast is going to be titled with a
picture of you with uh the face paint and a
spear in your hand on the war path because you
you're just leaving no stone unturned here, just kind of
just attacking Jamie Carragher, Tim, Tim Howard do you want
to go after t t Now?
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Do you want to go after Henrie? You want to
go after number fourteen?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Even even Terry Herie in that what I was talking about,
that one segment where he was basically Jamie was begging
Spurs to lose. Even Terry and Ree looked at the
camera AND's like, what is this guy talking about? So
even you know, the Antichrist of Spurs basically was like
what is he want about? So that's how you know
he's off the deep end. I want to but it's
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happy times.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Though, I mean it is for I mean for both
clubs at least short term. Coming off a five to
one win for Arsenal, I mean, I mean Tottenham have
an amazing opportunity to get to a cup final this
week and coming off of three points and getting a
new player in so at least now, I mean, I
mean we can look to a few weeks ago when
they were just losing game after game after game and
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you barely you know, I almost got to pay you
to do this podcast.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Oh yeah, I mean, you know, and I love it,
but I didn't want to be.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Here, no, I know, and it's tough. So now you know,
you can see a smile on your face as we as.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
And also this, I don't care that we missed out on.
I've never thought that Desac was right for Spurs and
right for our system. I never thought that was the case,
and I thought it was a weird thing to go
after him in the first place. He ends up going
to Villa anyways, But I am not even one percent
disappointed that that one didn't go through. I kind of
think we kind of stole the transfer deadline days, don't
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you think to me, tell us the biggest move to
happen today. I'm looking through like all Fabricio's tweets and
there's like sixteen of them that's about Spurs. Everyone else
is like, oh, they signed a little prospect here, you know,
Chelsea signed like this eighteen year old, which we were
going to talk about. Rash for going to Villa. We mentioned,
But really, like as far as blockbuster moves, there really
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wasn't any. Uh, Joel Felix goes to where'd he go?
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Milan?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
He left Chelsea, so I don't know, it's regardless he
leaves Chelsea. There wasn't really any Arsenal didn't do anything.
Chelsea signs, you know, the eighteen year old. Like I said,
so I kind of felt like it was our transfer.
It was kind of our time in the sun today.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
No, you you absolutely were the bell of the ball
and everybody was talking about you.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
So I mean it's kind of nice. Yeah, it's kind
of nice.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
To be loved, I agree. Yeah, and even City like
the other thing, Ben Chilwell to Palace, which I think
is an odd choice, but sure he's got to play football,
though is he's not playing at Chelsea because MORESCA hates him?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
So yeah, no, I mean, yeah, I'm just not uh
not the best you know fit there. But you know,
we'll see how it works out.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
To wrap up on the Big six here, United continued.
They lose out on the ties tell to Spurs, as
we mentioned, but they also lose out on any points
this weekend. They think the fan has learned they're not
a good team.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
And I don't know, like what is going on there,
but it's just a disaster right now. And I don't know.
I mean, you can't get rid of the manager this quick,
right and they're they're trying to get rid of guys
and get people in. That's in Reuben's program. But you
can't lose to nil the Palace at Home. You just
you just can't.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
No.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
And they lost Losangre Martinez mm hm. They lost him
to an ACL so he's going to be gone for
a while.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
And yeah, I mean United are are not in good shape.
The disaster. Yeah, they're a.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Complete disaster and their managers need to be given some time.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I mean, look at As. I mean, you know they.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Gave him some time, and they got to give Amber
him some time and get his own players in there.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
You know, Garnaco was looking to leave and he stayed.
So it'll be, uh, it'll be interesting to see kind
of what their transfer businesses in the in the summertime
because they need a full remodel. And there's no doubt
about it.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah, we did mention Chelsea and some of the youngsters
they signed. But they did have a game today. They
beat west Ham and home to one, go down early,
but Netto ends up finding a rebound and then I
I mean it just was one of those wins where
you felt like it was coming. It was Wamba Soaka
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with an own goal. It was off of a cross
from Palmer. It was a whole home win for them Chelsea.
I mean they had sixty seven percent possession, but they
only had one point three XG. Not great for twenty
two shots, but again that's that's the type of game.
It's a London derby at home. You just got to
win and it doesn't matter, you know what. The statistics
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looked like. They got to three points, so I think
another home win for Chelsea and the Grandpotter revenge game
as well.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Yeah, I mean, I just think that Chelsea's win today
against Brentford was kind of run of the mill. I mean,
I just think that moving into the top four was
a nice character to have and they'll kind of go
on in their cup competitions.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
They play Brighton in the.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
FA Cup and we'll see, we'll see how they progress.
I mean, they've been kind of an up and down
team this year. So their chances of the top four
right now I think are fifty to fifty. You have
to factor forrest in Bournemouth. Losing to Liverpool kind of
hurt them as we take a look around kind of
the big six.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
But no Chelsea.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
I thought Nico Jackson got hurt in the game today,
but it looks like he's he may be okay, but
Palmer with another goal, I mean just ho hum. Yeah,
you could just kind of just like he used to
write down a golfer Kane every week, you can write
one down for Palmer.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, it's true, it's true.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
So Chelsea they were, they were in a bad and
a bad rut there for a minute, but got the
result today after an awful, awful giveaway by Lee Levi
Colwell to give away the ball and then Bowen with
a really really good finish. But Chelsea hell firm and
with a new keeper, new attitude and three points and
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moving in back into.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
The top four.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Before we talk about the team in first place, you
mentioned them Nottingham Forest. What a team they are. Seven nil.
They scored a touchdown against Brighton at home. Everybody gets
in on the scoring, Wood gets a hat trick. This
was domination essentially from start to finish, and they put
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on a counter attacking clinic. Really because despite losing by
a touchdown, Brighton had sixty three percent of the possession,
but the XG was all in Nottingham Forest favored three
point four to zero point eight. I mean, at some
point I'm waiting for them to fall, right, I'm waiting
for the other shoe to drop with them, and it's
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just not happening. It's I don't I say this every week.
I can't compute how Nuno is doing this. I don't
understand it. But they they're just playing well, and they're
they're all playing together, and they're beating teams that they
should beat, and they're not just beating them, they're dominating them.
So I wouldn't. Here's this, and I think I said
in the group chat, I wouldn't be surprised if they're
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next year. Next season, let's say they make Champions League,
I would not be surprised if they're in a relegation
scrap next year, just from the the increased fixtures. But really,
I would not be surprised if that were the case.
But again, I've been I've been waiting for them to
fall all year long. They haven't been doing it, So
what do I know? Because they keep rolling plus thirteen
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gold differentials. So eventually, I've just got to accept that
they're a really good team right now and they're having
a lesser like not quite to their extents, but a
less like run, and good for them, not even for
a solid fans or champions of Europe. They'll let you
know it.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
So good for them, No, I mean listen Forrest. They
they got deducted points last year. They brought in too
many big players.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
But they lost James Ward Prowse today. Yeah because he
went back to west Ham.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Yeah they did. Yeah, he did.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
He never should have left west Ham but regardless, no, no,
he should dumb move.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
That was yeah, But nevertheless, you know Forrest right now
or listen for for for better or worse. They're in
the mix for top four. Yeah, I mean you know,
and they have a really good goalkeeper. They obviously have
a good manager that you didn't know what to do with.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
And uh, he was lost.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
He was lost. He was absolutely he was. It was
well deserved and they wanted Conte. They just had to
get somebody in there. So clearly that didn't work out
as we all expected. So yeah, credit to Nodding for us.
They look very strong at the weekend. We'll watch with
great interest as they move on. But then, last, not
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least Liverpool, who I thought kind of got away with
one against Bourne with that first goal was a penalty
and for me it's never a pen I thought it
was a pretty soft penalty call now for me either. No, Yeah,
I thought they got bailed out pretty pretty convincingly.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
So yeah, I agree. I think that it wasn't It
wasn't the greatest call.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
I mean in the in the in the heat of
the moment. I mean, I can understand the ref making
that decision, but I think they I think they got screwed.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Uh not to mention, I mean not that it matters
because almost only counts and horses and hand grenades the
fans learned. But I think Bournemouth hit like six posts.
It felt like they were all over them, especially in
that first half. They didn't get rewarded at all, and
they give up one little silly push that, like we said,
was not a pen and that's it. So you can't
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give Liverpool a break, you can't. You have to be clinical.
I felt like they were to use another British idiom.
I thought they were very unlucky to not get at
least a point, if not three, from that game. But
that's a six pointer. And if you're going to win
the league, like Liverpool probably is, you win those games
and they're doing it.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
So Liverpool, you'll take them on this week and again,
they're a team that.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Has I think the best collection of talent in the league.
I'm not going to say that.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
They're the best team in the world because I think
still right now Real Madrid is even though they're not
at the top of the they're not at the top
of their game right now. But the way that they
play and the defending that they do, and the fact
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that Sala did not have to play last summer and
had the summer off to kind of fresh, I mean,
there's no denying their form under this new manager. And
bringing me back to Arsenal just kind of tying it
all in, I mean and tying back to what I
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said before about two ships passing in the night, right, Well,
what does it matter if you're in the regatta, which
is the famous sailing race, if you didn't know, and
there were three ships and you passed man City, But
there's the Liverpool boat and you could see it in
the distance. So it's all for naught if Liverpool pips
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them and wins the league this year, because then it's
going to be like, well, you finished second, you finished second,
you finished second.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Well you know what I say. Anybody who finished second,
you know what they are Brett first loser, first loser.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
That's correct, Yeah, that's correct. What if Arsenal don't win
a trophy this year.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
It's going to be very disappointing. Right now, you can't
call them the favorites for the Premier League, can't call
them the favorites, and clearly in the Carabou Cup down
to nil, they are one of the top four or
five favorites in the Champions League right now.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
To me, that would be the one I'd want to
win the most.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
Obviously to Arsenal fans it does mean the most because
a they've never want to be another London club has
one at Chelsea twice. See they've won the Premier League
team times, although they have one of the twenty years
and I haven't experienced one as a fan, so that
would be very special.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
For me personally. I've seen them win FA Cups.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
But lucky just yeah, quite just just just kind of
seeing the whole picture and seeing the project I'm not
I've and to my credit, not one time have I
ever been our teta out, not even in the early days,
(44:54):
not in the early not even in the early days.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
So and not even a hint of it either.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
I mean I know the there's a lot of fans
out there in cleaning this one, uh, this one famous
fan of Arsenal, and this guy Lee Gunner who's very
very much Arteta out and he has been and he's
just I mean, now he's got other people out there
calling him out. It's just like like give it up.
Like they're playing well, like okay, like not every team's
gonna win every year. And I get the fact that
they haven't won trophies and and it's been a while
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they won an FA Cup. When they're going to win
a league and when are they going to have that
ruthless Arsenal back, Like if you go back to those
title winning teams twenty years ago, they had silk and steel.
My friend, they had silk up front and they had
steel at the back. And right now, I think they're
missing a little bit of the silk.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
I think they have steel. And I think you've admitted
that to me.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
I think, you know, just watching them defensively, I mean
you you have nightmare CELEI. Brean and Gabriel are are
just are a great tandem back there. And they did
a number on Holland yesterday before Miles Lewis Kelly did
his celebration and housed him that fun. Yeah, come on,
that's that's funny stuff. And and you know what, the
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reason why I didn't even bring up taunting is because
you and I are very much on the same page.
I know we are, is that it's all part of
the It's all fun and games, like the Vardi pointing
to the patch saying one one for me and you're
zero for Well, you could say that, but it's entertaining
for everybody else. Now I would find it annoying, but
I would also respect it, just like when but there
(46:24):
are sometimes when you go over the line's a bit
too far.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Like these days. Was he even in the league anymore?
What did he do?
Speaker 3 (46:33):
Is was he the one that did the darts celebration
to make fun of Madison.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
And then Spurs rattled off three goals and then did
the darts right in his face like seventeen times.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
He's he is a nut job.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
I believe he's at Everton, but he's on loan at
a French club and he's like tweeting out some like
wild stuff at Everton.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
He's a weird, unhinged talented.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Soccer play Jamie J. Vardi should should retires.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
In the Premier League Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
You know, there's no he is an unbelievable this is
this is before you started following. But there was one
summer when he was very very close to signing for Arsenal,
and I believe his wife did not want to come
to London and that was the Really that's why he
didn't sign, or maybe he just didn't want to go
to the big club, but yeah, this was that.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Actually, that's usually favor more than it does hurt us, because,
like I know, Madison was between Newcastle and Spurs and
his wife wanted to live in London, So I.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
Want to live in London, So there you go. Yeah,
well instead of living in Newcastle. Well there, well there's
that too, Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
And I don't blame a blooming metropolis.
Speaker 4 (47:48):
But no, it's not, it's not. But listen, some people
have have preferences on on on where to live. You
and I choose to live in the great state of Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
That is correct. And it's freezing cold and snowing, yes.
Speaker 4 (48:00):
It is, yeah, at least half the year. But what
what else can we say? I mean, this has been
quite the week for both of our clubs bread. I mean,
we've covered a lot here, we covered the Big Six.
It's a big week cup week in the in the
Carabell Cup, and there is a less i'll say more
(48:23):
than zero chance that next week on this very podcast,
in this very time slot, you and I are talking
about an Arsenal Tottenham Caravell Cup.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
No no, no thanks, no thanks. I want to play
Newcastle please. I don't want the devastation of lousing to
you guys.
Speaker 4 (48:52):
I'm actually super happy that the Arsenal matches first because
if if the Tottenham was first on Wednesday and you
guys had advanced to Wembley Thursday, from me would be
I'd be on pins and needles, even though overcoming too,
Nil'd already have in my head that they're probably not
going to do it. Yeah, if they got if they
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got that first goal, the text that would be going
back and forth.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
If they tied it, if they just got within a sniff.
So if well, that's the thing, So we're not going
to have that.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
What we will have is if somehow, some way Wednesday
Arsenal do advance to Wembley Thursday, we'll have the what
we may have to get to a camera on the
on the Council, the Council camp.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Because you're not coming for the final. I'm not. I'm
not talking to you for days before and after the final.
If it is a Spurs Arsenal final.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
Okay, If it's Spurs Newcastle, we can't we.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Oh that's fine, okay, okay, But if it's a derby final,
it's not happening for.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
Our listeners out there.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Uh. Brett and I watched one Arsenal Tottenham match together.
I never didn't go it's well, it went well for
one of us.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Yeah, I'm not a.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Fan, but listen, but you know what did go well
this week?
Speaker 2 (50:18):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (50:19):
Tottenham Brentford? You know what else did go well this week?
Arsenal man City. And that's what and that's what matters
the most. So as we close out another episode of
London Club Council, smiles around and we'll see if there
will smiles around next week. As we bid you Ado
on another episode of the LCC
We're at it again. Welcome to another meeting of the
London Club Council. Now representing Tottenham Hotspur in this corner
we do have Brett Blakemore and repping Arsenal is Robbie Rosenhaus.
So boys, let the banter begin.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Welcome into another edition of the London Club Council. I'm
Brett Blake Mara, I present Tottenham Hotspur and with me
is Robbie Rosenhaus, who represents that club that goes by
the name of Arsenal that nobody likes. Robbie, how are you.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I'm doing okay and you are as well as.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I'm doing fantastic, bringing.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
In new players and bringing in three points, which for
the first time this calendar year is a welcome side
for Tottenham. We'll get to them in the second half
of our podcast. But the smile that you have currently
on your face ear to ear with one dimple on
the left and one dimple on the right may have
you advancing to Wembley in just four days time.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
But before we.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Get to all of that, the biggest news besides the
transfer window was Arsenal's five to one win on Sunday
at home against Manchester City.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Now we can look at.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Kind of just the micro view in the macro view,
and I want to spend more time on the macro
view because looking at the game, I mean, for the
first sixty to seventy minutes of the game, City were
in it. I mean, it was, it was, you know,
it was. It was one nil very quickly. And then
Holland scored in the second half to make it one one.
(01:39):
But then immediately you had Partey come down and the
crowd was urging him to.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Shoot, and I was not.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
I wanted him to pass it, and he ends up
scoring off of Stones's back for a deflective goal. And
then later on they ended up getting three more, which
I mean, excuse me, two more with Kai Havertz and
then one area to finish it off. But all the
those goals are icing on the cake, and they were
really nicely taking goals the Havers one and one Airy
one who's eighteen years old, and Lewis Kelly who's sevent
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I mean just nineteen and eighteen years old.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Be that as it may, rookie numbers.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Looking at just the macro view of it and seeing
this as that, I'm not going to get way too
excited because while it may be other than the FA
Cup win against Chelsea a few years back, oar Ted's
greatest achievement, especially since its pupil against Mentor. I see
these as two ships passing in the night, and I
mentioned this to you off air right before we got taping,
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and that despite a few kind of scratch your head
draws Villa Everton, they're the only Premier League team this
year in the league to not lose a game at home.
So while they sit six points back and Liverpool have
that game in hand, and now City are way oh
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back of them with a fight just to get in
the top four. As somebody who hates Arsenal doesn't really
care for City from a ten thousand foot view, do
you see it the way I see it, where it's
kind of City needing to reload and we'll get into
the transfer window a little bit. They brought in a
few players, including a midfielder, a couple of midfielders, one
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Marmouche from Frankfurt. But do you see this as Arsenal
kind of passing them and staying ahead of them for
the foreseeable future.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, I don't want to be to not give you
guys any credit because that's just not fair. I mean,
you guys battered them, especially in that second half. First
half I thought was pretty even from what I saw,
they had some chances. But once that second half, once
the snowball got rolling down the hill, I mean, there
was just no stopping it. It just kept building and building.
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City are such a weird club this year because it
feels like they do need to reload, right, and it
feels like they need to I don't know if it's
changed something. I mean, obviously PAP's not going to go anywhere.
I just signed a new deal, and why would he
even if he didn't sign a new deal, why would
he go anywhere. He's got all the money, He's got
the money of God basically to bring in whoever he wants.
But at something has gone wrong in the locker room.
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Whether it's you know, just a mojo or a morale
thing or I don't know, but they've been a weird
team all year long. But that being said, you know,
not a lot of teams have beat them by four goals.
Just the two of our clubs this year have beaten
them by four goals. There may have been some others,
but that's that ruins the bit, so we'll just say
that our only two clubs to do it. But they've
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been it's just been a weird, weird year for them
and they're certainly not winning the league like that's done
as far as I'm concerned, they're out of the race.
It's still Liverpool's league to lose. But a big step
forward for your club too to be able to put
up those goals without the kayosaka, which is something that
you haven't been able to do all them in open
play as well as a big deal. I love Odegard
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setting the tone Havertz made up for his colossal miss
which had everybody going and throwing him under the bus.
So I think it's a very very very good win
for you guys, and I don't know passing them in general,
maybe not because they could somewhat reload passing them for
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this twenty four to twenty five season, absolutely without a.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Doubt, and it'll be interesting to see how City do
in a few of these cup competitions where they take
on Real Madrid because they were unable to qualify for
the top eight, and that should be a very spicy
two leged tie that will get this month in addition
to some other very very interesting European matchups, not only
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in the Champions League but in Europa League.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Arsenal's form I think it just has.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Had a couple of blips, but their squad for the
most part, other than Sokka uh and obviously Ode guard
being being out and Ben White out long term, you know,
we forget about him too. He was a big integral
part of what they did the first half of the
season and obviously last season a big part of kind
of what they do down that right flank.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
But to Kai Hortz and you mentioned him missing that
sitter early on, that would have made it to nail
or too. To Nil, I should say.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
He does so many good things in the match that
people don't kind of grasp onto that all they want
to criticize him for is his lack of either a
big goals or b his nose for the net. As
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a proper number nine, I personally do not view him
as that out and out number nine. They still need
to get him, and I think that they're in the summertime.
Eddie and Cattio was never it and he scored one
goal in I believe I was never and I was
proven right on that, because he hasn't he hasn't pulled
up any trees at palace, So I was correct on that.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I know you do you.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
It's so weird. I don't I don't get. It's one
of those like British idioms I will never understand.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
But yeah, anyways, well that and it's it's a squeaky
bum time, which is which means it's uh, it's like this,
that's the two minute warning in an NFL.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, and it's a and it's a tie game, it's
squeaky bomb time. But average does so many good things
in a game off the ball and even his layoffs.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
And I mean you saw, like in a split second listen,
he did not finish when he should have. But when
Arsenal scored their first goal ninety seconds in, he was
the guy laying it for Rodiguard. Now it wasn't the
best pass, but he made the right decision because I
thought he was gonna shoot. And when he turned back
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and squared it for oder guard and Oderguard put it in,
I was baffled. I could not believe he didn't shoot
because in that spot I actually thought that the right
move was to shoot because he was six yards out
from the net, so he made the right decision there.
He's played the most minutes of any Arsenal player that
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isn't a defender this season or Riyah, so he's been
running to the ground. He's clearly a favorite of Arteta's.
He's gotten a lot of kind of grief and I
just think Brett that he's a better player than people
give him credit for. I know people like to crap
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on him because of the missus, but I just think
overall he's a really, really talented footballer.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I mean, you've been consistent on that, and everyone else
has been consistent on saying that he's not good. So
I think we're just at an impasse at this point.
So yeah, I don't I don't think he's as good
as you think he is. I don't think he's as
bad as you know, like say, our good friend Malina
thinks he is, but I would lean closer to her
than I would you. So that's because he's just got
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so many misses and mistakes in him. But he does
have a nose for the net and he a lot
of times finds himself in the right place at the
right time, and hey, that's part of the game. You know,
that's probably being a good striker, so I can't rip it.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
But yeah, well, speaking of the middle of the park,
and and and one more kind of overriding thought on
Arsenal is.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
How good they were in the middle of the park.
Forget for forget.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Oder Garby's I didn't think that necessarily it was his
best game.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
He gave up the ball a lot, but there were.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Two guys that were playing behind him that were just
absolute rock stars. You had to parte and you had
Declan Rice. And the way that they boss the midfield.
I mean Phil Foden. I don't even think he did
one thing in the game that was impactful. They were overrun.
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I mean, it was pretty simple how Arsenal were playing City.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Go ahead, City, you can have the ball kicking around,
that's fine, no problem. They did nothing with it. Arsenal
would take it back, go the other way and score
a goal. It's it was. It was pretty simple. And
this is not the Tottenham of the Tottenham game.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Well yeah, well no, well not just that, but yes,
because that's why Tottenham won that game by so many
goals is because they played into their hands.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Tottenham just sat there.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
They let them play and then all of a sudden, boom,
there goes On, Boom, there goes Madison, like.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
You know, that's exactly what Arsenal did. Boom, there goes Haver.
Its like even late you know, with one.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Area, I mean on that they were pinging the ball around,
uh and doing the old as and this is the
semi champs. So that was that was quite embarrassing for that.
I mean, I've had olays done to Arsenal before. It
is not fun. It is not fun whatsoever. But again
I think we've kind of uh covered Arsenal. Uh, you know,
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take off the touchdown here. They have a good result
in the league, they're gonna they're gonna have a couple
of weeks to what's that party?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
What party? Shouldn't be on the pitch? Well, not until
this whole thing is is over, because.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
It again, he shouldn't be on the pitch.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
You don't have to say a statement off you don't
want I'm saying it, he shouldn't be on the pitch, but.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Okay, and that's and you can text that in every time.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
He shouldn't be.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I don't I don't know all the details surrounding everything
that happened, but if what is proven is to be true.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Of course he shouldn't be playing.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
The facts remain he is. I think he's leaving at
the end of the season. I think he's going to
Saudi Arabia to get away from it all.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Oh no, I think, yeah, no, could I.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Think I think he's out the door because I think
Arsenal is going to bring in super Mendi from.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
The Extra Night from Spain. Yes, well, there you go.
I mean, there are no players that have gone to Spain.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
We just had a nineteen year old go to Spain
from aston Villa for exorbitant amount of money. So the
Habard's opinion aside, Arsenal sit in a good spot. They'll
get soccer back, they'll get Ben White back. They'll have
two weeks off, almost two weeks off when your lot
is playing in the in the FA Cup. Their last
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match before that break will be this week in the
Caravel Cup against Newcastle trying to overturn a two nothing deficits.
So we'll see if they can do that. There's no
real preview that we need to kind of provide here.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I mean, it's unlikely.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Yeah, they need to go up there. It's unlikely. I mean,
if they get the first goal, then it's game on.
But if they allow the first goal, I truly believe
they're not going to get three.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I can't. I can't see them getting three on the road.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I mean teams have gone up there on Newcastle, so
a weird team sometimes, but they can turn it on.
Uh in a in a heartbeat. So right now got
into my head. Do I see Arsenal advancing? No, but
stranger things have happened, Brett.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You know what's the good news for Arsenal though, and
that tie. A two goal lead is the most dangerous
lead in football.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Is absolutely it absolutely is, and you have to always
be aware in the back of your head that that
too nothing lead is dangerous.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I always love that one.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
So I do wanna do you feel like we've covered Arsenal?
Do you feel like there's anything? Absolutely because you didn't
do anything. We are recording after the deadline is over.
The deadline you've done that.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Haven't I was I was gonna kind of get into
Arsenal a little bit when we talked about Tottenham's acquisition
of Matthias Tell but just a just a quick note
on the inactivity of Arsenal. DISI transfer window. There was
only one position that they were targeting, and it was striker.
Everybody in the world knows that they need help upfront
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with Jay suss Out and the fact that they sold
in Keatsya and they didn't keep Allagoon and Habert is
int at number nine and.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
They just they just have a lack of depth at
that position. But I think the long term view is
that they're going to get Benjamin Sesco from Leipzig in
the summer. He wasn't coming here. Now.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
They've been on Ali Watkins. You saw that, so at
least they made an effort. I don't know if it
was half harded or not. It would have been interesting
to bring in a twenty nine year old, but he
is clearly Premier League tested because he scored all these
goals for Villa, so it's not like he would have
had to get adjusted. He would have walked right into
the Arsenal team and it would have been fascinating to see.
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But once Duran went from Villa to Saudi Arabia, that
was the end of that. So I think Sesco's coming
in the summer. Think another midfielder's coming in the summer.
They're gonna get Ben White back, they'll have soccer healthy,
but you're not mad at all. I think going into
next season they'll be ready to go uh and make
a full fledged charge barring health.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
At the title.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Right now, obviously it's an uphill climb the six points
behind with down a game in hand. I do not
express a high level of disappointment that they didn't go
out and get somebody.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Because anybody I think that.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
January is where you sometimes throw good money after bad.
There's a lot of kind of panic deals. Arsenal have
done this in the past numerous I'm not going to
go through.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
The players because.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
You've hit the because you hit the who button like
seven different times. But they brought in Swedish midfielders who
had back problems and never played for the club. They
brought in Spanish defenders and midfielders who were on loan.
I mean, it's it's it's either I believe it's feast
or famine. With the January transfers, you're either getting somebody
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who's gonna like I think Marcus Rashford is gonna go
to Villa and really help them, Like I actually rate him.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I think he's a good player.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
You know, he scored twenty goals a few years ago
in the Premier League for for a big club. Like
he's still and he's still young, so I think the
pressure will be less and he may be on big wages,
but I think he's he's got big talent and I
think he's gonna help them a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
But I am not think it's a little bit. I'm
not upset. I'm not upset.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I'm not upset, like I just you know, and it's
not like here in the States, where you know you're
trying to fill a need for like a left defenseman
or or or a left wing and it's like you know,
you need them for the for the playoffs, you know,
for a different a different kind of player for the playoffs,
like this is the squad like this there are no
playoffs like this is like I I, I just don't
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think plus any any Plus, they couldn't do another domestic
loan because they have two already, with Sterling from Chelsea
and with Netto from Bourne with the backup keeper, so
they couldn't do that. They they may have explored doing
an Evan Ferguson loan from from Brighton, but he ended
up leaving and I believe going to west Ham on
a loan.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
In a perfect world, Brett, yes, of course I.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Want them to bring somebody in, but I don't want
them bringing somebody again that doesn't guarantee success, Like bringing
in a body doesn't guarantee success. And I don't want
to bring in somebody just to bring in another body.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
They showed yesterday, I know they're not.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I mean, did you see even when Ari yesterday, I've
talked about the I've talked about the Saints. Come on,
I've talked about this eighteen year old kid for a
while now, and he's got everything there. Now he's not
a proper number nine. He should be playing on the right.
But I mean right now they're they're having a hard
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time obviously feeling that they could play a false nine.
I think yesterday they they did a They did a
good job of really disguising, uh, kind of where they
were playing some of the some of the players in
midfield in a confused city, and and and and gave
them a lot of a lot of turnovers which they
turned over and and came the other way with uh.
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Like I said, Brett, in a perfect world, yes, but
I can't criticize them after they just beat the defending
champs five to one.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Like they they sit in a great position in Champions League.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
We didn't even mention that they qualified just like your
team did for the automatic stages, which is which was key.
That's what we both wanted. That's what you you targeted
for four months ago when we started this group stage.
We need to finish in those top eight spots. So
that way, A, you're not playing those two games, you
don't have the jeopardy of falling out, and B you're
you're set up where you know you're in the final
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sixteen and there and both teams are. So you know,
being out of the f A Cup was a big
bumber because it's just you listen, it happens. You know,
you're playing against the tan man side. He can't break
them down. It happens in a one game scenario. You know,
if they played that game three more times, Arsenal would
win at least two of the three.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
If that were Spurs, we'd be doing a whole Has
anyone seen Tottenham? Oh they blew it again against the
ten man side against the in the f A Cup.
Blah blah blah blah. But it happens.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
We've had enough.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
We've had enough laughs of Tottenham's expense this year late
late late late Tiang Goles and Galatasarai late.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
T there was the year, yeah, I mean just yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
That was just domination in Turkey, yeah, Turky.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah, losses to Ipswich, I mean yeah, not good.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
But but we we are going to get into your
club because I'm fascinated with the with the business that
they've pulled off.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And and we'll see.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
What Arsenal do again this week as we kind of
wrap up the conversation there against Newcastle and then they'll
have ten days off and then they'll come back. I
can play Lester the following Saturday lunchtime, so they get
the early slot on the fifteenth of February, as the
Premier League will pick up after an FA Cup weekend.
But now to your club, and they clearly were one
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of the busier teams in the Premier League this transfer window,
and the fans were calling for it, the media was
calling for it. I mean, and and Arsenal while they
don't have injury issues and you're asking me whether or
not they should have brought somebody in. Your club obviously
has a ton of injuries from the front to the back,
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and that obviously includes keeper as well. So to start
here before we get into because getting that three zero
win was a nice confidence boost in the league, it
doesn't do anything for me when it comes to uh
their kind of league position in vaulting themselves back into
contention to maybe finish, finish, finish in the top ten, right.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
But what it's absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Well, I was good, right, and that's and you finished
my thought there was. While while it doesn't really affect
him in the positive, in the in the in the
climb up, it does affect him in that it does
give them quite a bit of a buffer between where
they sit now and any danger of.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
The R word.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Cort.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
So your club today and for the last couple of
weeks have kind of dripped information as to different players
that they were targeting, and it's I think it was
for you refreshing to see them not only bring in
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a keeper, not only bring in a defender, but now
bring in a left winger on loan and take him
for a test drive where it's either nothing or five
million dollar loan fee.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
And now you can buy him.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
For a fixed price where if he goes out and
scores ten or fifteen goals, like, you're not going to
pay you know, Munich's not going to hold you up
for another thirty or forty million.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
So is this the best of both worlds for you?
Speaker 4 (22:11):
And are you excited about getting a new attacking player
in and kind of taking him for a test drive.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
So that was that was the goal. That was what
we saw when the window first started. They wanted a keeper,
which they moved right away for Kinski, who for the
most part has been good against you guys. I thought
he let in a couple of softies, but those are
good shots as well. I saw, I saw. I'm happy
with him until the Carrio gets back. I don't know
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much about Kevin Danscow or Dan so excuse me. Dan
Scow just sounds cooler, but I don't know much about
him and says that he fits in perfectly, And of
course he's not gonna say he doesn't fit in, you
know what I mean? But just in time because Radio
dragashin towards ACL so naturally, one in, one out, that's
how it goes. But hopefully he will be back. I
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think they saved him for the Liverpool game. But this
whole tells situation. It is fascinating to me because, like
you were saying, they were dripping out information. So it
started with he rejected him straight out, doesn't want to
go to Spurs. Who would want to go to Spurs?
I don't want to go to I'm waiting for United,
I'm waiting for Chelsea, blah blah blah. So I'm like,
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all right, well that's done. So then you see Levy
flies out there, still gets rejected. It's like okay, and
then all of a sudden, out of the blue, here
we go to Spurs and it leaks out that they
had a lengthy tyes Tell and Ange pasta Cogloo. Big
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Ange himself had a lengthy quote lengthy phone call and
that apparently convinced him to do a complete one eighty.
I'm here to tell you the ang Out people, this
is undeniable evidence that he should still be in the
project and building this project. You're telling me a a
nineteen year old who plays for Bayern was convinced in
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a phone call to play for Spurs. You tell him,
find me another manager that can do that. It's just
he's one trophy's everywhere he's been. So I'm absolutely over
the Moon. I don't know how he's gonna be from
my research, he's more of like he wants to be
a true number nine and be in play at top,
but he can play out wide either right or left.
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But that's allegedly how they're gonna use him. He wanted
playing time. That was his biggest thing, I guess and
has probably made some There's plenty of playing time to
go around at Spurs because we've got a bleep ton
of games and not a lot of time and not
a lot of bodies to play him, So he'll get
all the time he wants. And then briefly I wanted
to mention too. I wanted to mention the the matches.
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I'm not gonna do a full exits and his breakdown,
but against Elfsburg to clinch three Academy players, Dan Scarlett,
Mikey Moore and a guy whose name I still haven't learned,
but I will learn shortly because I don't think it's
a jaia. I believe it is. Don't even know how
to say it, but I love the guy. All of
his reactions post match were great, so I'm gonna know
his name. You love to see that. And then the
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game against Brentford. I don't want to hear anymore that
Andrew doesn't have a plan B and Jamie Carriger's bs
that's coming out of his mouth. He's quickly becoming one
of my least favorite people in football period. Guy stinks
like he is saying that he'd be shocked if we
managed to get a point out of Brentford and don't concede,
you know, less than three goals. Like, piss off, Jamie Carriger.
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He sucks. So he said that on the broadcast. Robbie said, well, yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Well you'll get your chance this week because.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Uh oh, wouldn't that be delicious?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
He is, he is a mister Liverpool, but go ahead, B.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, anyways, but he did. There's one thing that's stuck
in my craw about that win against Brentford, and I
loved it. I'm happy that we broke the Premier League,
you know, uh losing streak and we got three points.
There was breathing them all that, but I was looking
at the you know a lot of the comments and
online Spurs fans and they're saying that's how you grind
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out a win, and you'd sit back. You were saying
it earlier you sit back and you play defense and
you absorb and then you go. And even Am said afterwards,
like I've only got eleven players, like, we gotta do
what we gotta do. Basically, that's that's what everyone's been
calling for. So whatever, I'm here to tell you. If
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we get our health and it sounds like we're gonna
get a lot of people back within the next two weeks,
ten days is the number that everyone keeps throwing around
for most of the guys out. If we get everyone back,
we should not ever be playing like that again. And
a story period like, to me, Spurs should play the
way Tottenham supposed to play, which is attacking, beautiful football,
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And I don't it makes me uneasy how how quickly
people were just oh, that's fine, well there you know,
we're we're back to the way we should be playing,
which is defensive football, which is a complete I called
Ricky Sacks a fraud right to him because he was
calling for that, so you know, I stand by it.
It's just it it makes me uneasy that it's it's
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always the grass is always greener, right, we're playing two
attacking football now, But when Conte was are we're playing
two defensive football. It's just I don't know, just stick
with ange let Ang's cook. No other manager with one
phone call could convince someone to leave Byron to come
to Spurs. So I'm all in and that's that's pretty
much my Tottenham rant. I'm very happy with this signing
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and Tottenham Spurs are on their way to Wembley hopefully.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Well we'll see because they have a huge match this
week coming up at Anfield and.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
They save Vicky for it despite.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
The the one nothing deficit. A lot of people are
picking Liverpool to advance, so I shocker there. I wouldn't
be surprised if somehow, some way your club found their
way to Wembley, because just in this weird season of
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ups and so many downs for Tottenham.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
This just the anticipation.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Would lift the spirits of the club and I think
lift the performances and lift the fans and kind of
get your club back and get the harmony and be harmonious.
And I think everybody would rally around the fact that
(28:37):
they kind of slayed the best team in Europe right
now in a cup competition. Yeah, and while it may
not be their most important and they have their eyes
on two prizes this year, well four, but really obviously
too big. Well, the two big ones meeting Premier League
and Champions League, that's what I met. I met those
(28:58):
the two big ones for Liverpool where they sit at
the top of both tables and they're looking to get both.
This cup competition to them while it's important and it's
a trophy, nobody like I'm not going to come on
here next week and say that, oh you know, it's
just a cup competition and you know Liverpool didn't field
their best place.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
No, they're fielding an all die and there. Now, if
something happens in the match.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Where I don't agree with where you benefited from bad
call or something, then I'll yell and scream. But if
they beat them straight up, far and square, just like
Arsenal beat City straight up, far and square on the weekend,
there's nothing you could say.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
There's nothing I can say about it.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
The fact remains is that over two legs your club
put in two efforts where I mean and the and
the first effort was really good. I mean they played
really well. I mean listen for the last fifteen minutes
of the game Liverpool. I remember like they had three
or four excellent chances, including one that was cleared right
not not off the line, but in the box. Somebody
(30:04):
blocked the shot that was that was going in HM
one of the defenders I can't remember exactly.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Some maybe been Davies. Somebody blocked the shot and I
can picture the play. So I mean, going up there
at one nil and then one one is totally different.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Everything, I like everything you've had to say about your
new signing and about your club right now, and about
Ange and the fact that you're behind him, But I
don't get that sense from kind of everybody still.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
National media hates him on.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Social media and kind of just the media. I mean
the media media hates him. Then they they loved him
at first and now they don't.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
They don't really care for him because he's he's his answers.
He's either he's either sarcastic or he's just he just
doesn't want to answer the question and he's.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Well, then stop asking him the same question five times
every press conference and multiple again you didn't ask, but
that's what they do.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Don't shoot the messenger.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I get that, but they literally every press conference. So
is this the game you're finally going to be more pragmatic,
and he's got a I mean imagine two years of that.
You know, I don't blame it for being prickly obviously, Still,
you know the players, Decky came out and said it
that he's the right man, Romero did, Sonny did, and
obviously tell things that he's the right guy because he
got convinced from a freaking phone call. So the media
(31:28):
can go piss off as especially Jamie Chrrigher, like I said,
and Tim Howard. Tim Howard can eat it as well.
So I can't stand listening every time Tim Howard has
an opinion on like a foul a penalty shout anything.
I'm always on the other side of what he's got
to say. And I am like that is clear, Like
I'll say, that's clear as day a penalty, and Tim Howard, Yeah,
(31:49):
that's never a penalty for me. It's not nowhere. It's
just like he's always on the wrong side of everything.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
So this podcast is going to be titled with a
picture of you with uh the face paint and a
spear in your hand on the war path because you
you're just leaving no stone unturned here, just kind of
just attacking Jamie Carragher, Tim, Tim Howard do you want
to go after t t Now?
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Do you want to go after Henrie? You want to
go after number fourteen?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Even even Terry Herie in that what I was talking about,
that one segment where he was basically Jamie was begging
Spurs to lose. Even Terry and Ree looked at the
camera AND's like, what is this guy talking about? So
even you know, the Antichrist of Spurs basically was like
what is he want about? So that's how you know
he's off the deep end. I want to but it's
(32:41):
happy times.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Though, I mean it is for I mean for both
clubs at least short term. Coming off a five to
one win for Arsenal, I mean, I mean Tottenham have
an amazing opportunity to get to a cup final this
week and coming off of three points and getting a
new player in so at least now, I mean, I
mean we can look to a few weeks ago when
they were just losing game after game after game and
(33:02):
you barely you know, I almost got to pay you
to do this podcast.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Oh yeah, I mean, you know, and I love it,
but I didn't want to be.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Here, no, I know, and it's tough. So now you know,
you can see a smile on your face as we as.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
And also this, I don't care that we missed out on.
I've never thought that Desac was right for Spurs and
right for our system. I never thought that was the case,
and I thought it was a weird thing to go
after him in the first place. He ends up going
to Villa anyways, But I am not even one percent
disappointed that that one didn't go through. I kind of
think we kind of stole the transfer deadline days, don't
(33:39):
you think to me, tell us the biggest move to
happen today. I'm looking through like all Fabricio's tweets and
there's like sixteen of them that's about Spurs. Everyone else
is like, oh, they signed a little prospect here, you know,
Chelsea signed like this eighteen year old, which we were
going to talk about. Rash for going to Villa. We mentioned,
But really, like as far as blockbuster moves, there really
(34:02):
wasn't any. Uh, Joel Felix goes to where'd he go?
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Milan?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
He left Chelsea, so I don't know, it's regardless he
leaves Chelsea. There wasn't really any Arsenal didn't do anything.
Chelsea signs, you know, the eighteen year old. Like I said,
so I kind of felt like it was our transfer.
It was kind of our time in the sun today.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
No, you you absolutely were the bell of the ball
and everybody was talking about you.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
So I mean it's kind of nice. Yeah, it's kind
of nice.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
To be loved, I agree. Yeah, and even City like
the other thing, Ben Chilwell to Palace, which I think
is an odd choice, but sure he's got to play football,
though is he's not playing at Chelsea because MORESCA hates him?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
So yeah, no, I mean, yeah, I'm just not uh
not the best you know fit there. But you know,
we'll see how it works out.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
To wrap up on the Big six here, United continued.
They lose out on the ties tell to Spurs, as
we mentioned, but they also lose out on any points
this weekend. They think the fan has learned they're not
a good team.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
And I don't know, like what is going on there,
but it's just a disaster right now. And I don't know.
I mean, you can't get rid of the manager this quick,
right and they're they're trying to get rid of guys
and get people in. That's in Reuben's program. But you
can't lose to nil the Palace at Home. You just
you just can't.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
No.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
And they lost Losangre Martinez mm hm. They lost him
to an ACL so he's going to be gone for
a while.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
And yeah, I mean United are are not in good shape.
The disaster. Yeah, they're a.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Complete disaster and their managers need to be given some time.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I mean, look at As. I mean, you know they.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Gave him some time, and they got to give Amber
him some time and get his own players in there.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
You know, Garnaco was looking to leave and he stayed.
So it'll be, uh, it'll be interesting to see kind
of what their transfer businesses in the in the summertime
because they need a full remodel. And there's no doubt
about it.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah, we did mention Chelsea and some of the youngsters
they signed. But they did have a game today. They
beat west Ham and home to one, go down early,
but Netto ends up finding a rebound and then I
I mean it just was one of those wins where
you felt like it was coming. It was Wamba Soaka
(36:37):
with an own goal. It was off of a cross
from Palmer. It was a whole home win for them Chelsea.
I mean they had sixty seven percent possession, but they
only had one point three XG. Not great for twenty
two shots, but again that's that's the type of game.
It's a London derby at home. You just got to
win and it doesn't matter, you know what. The statistics
(36:57):
looked like. They got to three points, so I think
another home win for Chelsea and the Grandpotter revenge game
as well.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Yeah, I mean, I just think that Chelsea's win today
against Brentford was kind of run of the mill. I mean,
I just think that moving into the top four was
a nice character to have and they'll kind of go
on in their cup competitions.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
They play Brighton in the.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
FA Cup and we'll see, we'll see how they progress.
I mean, they've been kind of an up and down
team this year. So their chances of the top four
right now I think are fifty to fifty. You have
to factor forrest in Bournemouth. Losing to Liverpool kind of
hurt them as we take a look around kind of
the big six.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
But no Chelsea.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
I thought Nico Jackson got hurt in the game today,
but it looks like he's he may be okay, but
Palmer with another goal, I mean just ho hum. Yeah,
you could just kind of just like he used to
write down a golfer Kane every week, you can write
one down for Palmer.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, it's true, it's true.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
So Chelsea they were, they were in a bad and
a bad rut there for a minute, but got the
result today after an awful, awful giveaway by Lee Levi
Colwell to give away the ball and then Bowen with
a really really good finish. But Chelsea hell firm and
with a new keeper, new attitude and three points and
(38:19):
moving in back into.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
The top four.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Before we talk about the team in first place, you
mentioned them Nottingham Forest. What a team they are. Seven nil.
They scored a touchdown against Brighton at home. Everybody gets
in on the scoring, Wood gets a hat trick. This
was domination essentially from start to finish, and they put
(38:42):
on a counter attacking clinic. Really because despite losing by
a touchdown, Brighton had sixty three percent of the possession,
but the XG was all in Nottingham Forest favored three
point four to zero point eight. I mean, at some
point I'm waiting for them to fall, right, I'm waiting
for the other shoe to drop with them, and it's
(39:05):
just not happening. It's I don't I say this every week.
I can't compute how Nuno is doing this. I don't
understand it. But they they're just playing well, and they're
they're all playing together, and they're beating teams that they
should beat, and they're not just beating them, they're dominating them.
So I wouldn't. Here's this, and I think I said
in the group chat, I wouldn't be surprised if they're
(39:27):
next year. Next season, let's say they make Champions League,
I would not be surprised if they're in a relegation
scrap next year, just from the the increased fixtures. But really,
I would not be surprised if that were the case.
But again, I've been I've been waiting for them to
fall all year long. They haven't been doing it, So
what do I know? Because they keep rolling plus thirteen
(39:50):
gold differentials. So eventually, I've just got to accept that
they're a really good team right now and they're having
a lesser like not quite to their extents, but a
less like run, and good for them, not even for
a solid fans or champions of Europe. They'll let you
know it.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
So good for them, No, I mean listen Forrest. They
they got deducted points last year. They brought in too
many big players.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
But they lost James Ward Prowse today. Yeah because he
went back to west Ham.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Yeah they did. Yeah, he did.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
He never should have left west Ham but regardless, no, no,
he should dumb move.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
That was yeah, But nevertheless, you know Forrest right now
or listen for for for better or worse. They're in
the mix for top four. Yeah, I mean you know,
and they have a really good goalkeeper. They obviously have
a good manager that you didn't know what to do with.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
And uh, he was lost.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
He was lost. He was absolutely he was. It was
well deserved and they wanted Conte. They just had to
get somebody in there. So clearly that didn't work out
as we all expected. So yeah, credit to Nodding for us.
They look very strong at the weekend. We'll watch with
great interest as they move on. But then, last, not
(41:06):
least Liverpool, who I thought kind of got away with
one against Bourne with that first goal was a penalty
and for me it's never a pen I thought it
was a pretty soft penalty call now for me either. No, Yeah,
I thought they got bailed out pretty pretty convincingly.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
So yeah, I agree. I think that it wasn't It
wasn't the greatest call.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
I mean in the in the in the heat of
the moment. I mean, I can understand the ref making
that decision, but I think they I think they got screwed.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Uh not to mention, I mean not that it matters
because almost only counts and horses and hand grenades the
fans learned. But I think Bournemouth hit like six posts.
It felt like they were all over them, especially in
that first half. They didn't get rewarded at all, and
they give up one little silly push that, like we said,
was not a pen and that's it. So you can't
(41:57):
give Liverpool a break, you can't. You have to be clinical.
I felt like they were to use another British idiom.
I thought they were very unlucky to not get at
least a point, if not three, from that game. But
that's a six pointer. And if you're going to win
the league, like Liverpool probably is, you win those games
and they're doing it.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
So Liverpool, you'll take them on this week and again,
they're a team that.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Has I think the best collection of talent in the league.
I'm not going to say that.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
They're the best team in the world because I think
still right now Real Madrid is even though they're not
at the top of the they're not at the top
of their game right now. But the way that they
play and the defending that they do, and the fact
(42:53):
that Sala did not have to play last summer and
had the summer off to kind of fresh, I mean,
there's no denying their form under this new manager. And
bringing me back to Arsenal just kind of tying it
all in, I mean and tying back to what I
(43:14):
said before about two ships passing in the night, right, Well,
what does it matter if you're in the regatta, which
is the famous sailing race, if you didn't know, and
there were three ships and you passed man City, But
there's the Liverpool boat and you could see it in
the distance. So it's all for naught if Liverpool pips
(43:37):
them and wins the league this year, because then it's
going to be like, well, you finished second, you finished second,
you finished second.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Well you know what I say. Anybody who finished second,
you know what they are Brett first loser, first loser.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
That's correct, Yeah, that's correct. What if Arsenal don't win
a trophy this year.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
It's going to be very disappointing. Right now, you can't
call them the favorites for the Premier League, can't call
them the favorites, and clearly in the Carabou Cup down
to nil, they are one of the top four or
five favorites in the Champions League right now.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
To me, that would be the one I'd want to
win the most.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
Obviously to Arsenal fans it does mean the most because
a they've never want to be another London club has
one at Chelsea twice. See they've won the Premier League
team times, although they have one of the twenty years
and I haven't experienced one as a fan, so that
would be very special.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
For me personally. I've seen them win FA Cups.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
But lucky just yeah, quite just just just kind of
seeing the whole picture and seeing the project I'm not
I've and to my credit, not one time have I
ever been our teta out, not even in the early days,
(44:54):
not in the early not even in the early days.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
So and not even a hint of it either.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
I mean I know the there's a lot of fans
out there in cleaning this one, uh, this one famous
fan of Arsenal, and this guy Lee Gunner who's very
very much Arteta out and he has been and he's
just I mean, now he's got other people out there
calling him out. It's just like like give it up.
Like they're playing well, like okay, like not every team's
gonna win every year. And I get the fact that
they haven't won trophies and and it's been a while
(45:21):
they won an FA Cup. When they're going to win
a league and when are they going to have that
ruthless Arsenal back, Like if you go back to those
title winning teams twenty years ago, they had silk and steel.
My friend, they had silk up front and they had
steel at the back. And right now, I think they're
missing a little bit of the silk.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
I think they have steel. And I think you've admitted
that to me.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
I think, you know, just watching them defensively, I mean
you you have nightmare CELEI. Brean and Gabriel are are
just are a great tandem back there. And they did
a number on Holland yesterday before Miles Lewis Kelly did
his celebration and housed him that fun. Yeah, come on,
that's that's funny stuff. And and you know what, the
(46:03):
reason why I didn't even bring up taunting is because
you and I are very much on the same page.
I know we are, is that it's all part of
the It's all fun and games, like the Vardi pointing
to the patch saying one one for me and you're
zero for Well, you could say that, but it's entertaining
for everybody else. Now I would find it annoying, but
I would also respect it, just like when but there
(46:24):
are sometimes when you go over the line's a bit
too far.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Like these days. Was he even in the league anymore?
What did he do?
Speaker 3 (46:33):
Is was he the one that did the darts celebration
to make fun of Madison.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
And then Spurs rattled off three goals and then did
the darts right in his face like seventeen times.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
He's he is a nut job.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
I believe he's at Everton, but he's on loan at
a French club and he's like tweeting out some like
wild stuff at Everton.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
He's a weird, unhinged talented.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Soccer play Jamie J. Vardi should should retires.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
In the Premier League Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
You know, there's no he is an unbelievable this is
this is before you started following. But there was one
summer when he was very very close to signing for Arsenal,
and I believe his wife did not want to come
to London and that was the Really that's why he
didn't sign, or maybe he just didn't want to go
to the big club, but yeah, this was that.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Actually, that's usually favor more than it does hurt us, because,
like I know, Madison was between Newcastle and Spurs and
his wife wanted to live in London, So I.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
Want to live in London, So there you go. Yeah,
well instead of living in Newcastle. Well there, well there's
that too, Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
And I don't blame a blooming metropolis.
Speaker 4 (47:48):
But no, it's not, it's not. But listen, some people
have have preferences on on on where to live. You
and I choose to live in the great state of Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
That is correct. And it's freezing cold and snowing, yes.
Speaker 4 (48:00):
It is, yeah, at least half the year. But what
what else can we say? I mean, this has been
quite the week for both of our clubs bread. I mean,
we've covered a lot here, we covered the Big Six.
It's a big week cup week in the in the
Carabell Cup, and there is a less i'll say more
(48:23):
than zero chance that next week on this very podcast,
in this very time slot, you and I are talking
about an Arsenal Tottenham Caravell Cup.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
No no, no thanks, no thanks. I want to play
Newcastle please. I don't want the devastation of lousing to
you guys.
Speaker 4 (48:52):
I'm actually super happy that the Arsenal matches first because
if if the Tottenham was first on Wednesday and you
guys had advanced to Wembley Thursday, from me would be
I'd be on pins and needles, even though overcoming too,
Nil'd already have in my head that they're probably not
going to do it. Yeah, if they got if they
(49:13):
got that first goal, the text that would be going
back and forth.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
If they tied it, if they just got within a sniff.
So if well, that's the thing, So we're not going
to have that.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
What we will have is if somehow, some way Wednesday
Arsenal do advance to Wembley Thursday, we'll have the what
we may have to get to a camera on the
on the Council, the Council camp.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Because you're not coming for the final. I'm not. I'm
not talking to you for days before and after the final.
If it is a Spurs Arsenal final.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
Okay, If it's Spurs Newcastle, we can't we.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Oh that's fine, okay, okay, But if it's a derby final,
it's not happening for.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
Our listeners out there.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Uh. Brett and I watched one Arsenal Tottenham match together.
I never didn't go it's well, it went well for
one of us.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Yeah, I'm not a.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Fan, but listen, but you know what did go well
this week?
Speaker 2 (50:18):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (50:19):
Tottenham Brentford? You know what else did go well this week?
Arsenal man City. And that's what and that's what matters
the most. So as we close out another episode of
London Club Council, smiles around and we'll see if there
will smiles around next week. As we bid you Ado
on another episode of the LCC
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