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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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(00:30):
not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles.
The credit belongs to the man who is actually in
the arena. What inspired Arthur Lee protecting his daughter and
then the world Success Leaves Clues will explore each chapter
of author's book, Sorry Can't as a Lie, and hear
from other men and women in their arenas. Get ready

(00:51):
to be inspired. Welcome to the Man in the Arena.
I'm Rick Thatcher with the CEO, inventor of Life Back,
Arthur Lee and Patrick O'Rourke, Massive People, Comedy Legends Patch.
He's got a life patch for those of you listening
at home, Those folks that are listening across the country
where if you're in LA and it's the weekend, God

(01:13):
bless you. I hope everything is safe from the fires.
Those of you listening in Houston, in Orlando, and of
course here in New York wor seven ten. Unbelievable audience
for Man in the Arena and what we do here. Arthur,
you know you wrote a book.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Well you know it's that's been kind of a little
bit of a foundation because it gives us a talk
talk platform now and I think that it really inspires
some thinking. But I wanted to take a second too
to think about the last two days. You know, we
were with Colonel CJ.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Douglas.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Douglas thank you sorry, because he's just CJ to me, right,
we call him CJ. But Pat, you got you know,
you get to know him too. But you know, we
spend a lot of time Ryan in the car and
when you get time with someone a veteran that has
been over there in tech the our country for a
long time.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Man, we got some amazing stories.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
But think about that, and then we go to Newsmacs
and we're on there and you know, he shined in
his efforts to help protect veterans and choking emergency. And
then today we go and see Brian and we need
the bar rescue guy, you know, and he says and
he says to me and this kind of almost made
me get a little chill.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
He goes, Hey, I do bar rescue.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
You really rescue people and they say, you know, we
should do something, And I was like, WHOA, that was
a pretty cool statement from him.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
And what was cool was he recognized me.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
That means he knows about life back and then him
making the connection and the rescue right the bar rescue,
so he knows like it's getting there in the sense
of visibility, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
And when someone who.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Has visibility could help us and says, you know, we
should do something, I'm like, that's amazing. That was a
really cool day. Because spend the time with cjys incredible.
I would I would definitely say he'd be into the There's.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Different aspects of it, the ones that you lay out
in the book, which we'll talk about, the little rascals
and of course risky business, and one that I'm going
to bring to your attention. I'm not sure if you
knew the what movie it got attributed to it just
doesn't matter all that and more, but I do.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
It is me.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Did I ruin that?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Not at all? You never ruined anything?

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Next?

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, no, but one other thing that And we hear
this a lot from people that have this moment where
they think about the application and the gift of life
BacT And he said, I want to get this in
all the restaurants rehab because when they upgrade the food
and they upgrade and they get more public and he
cares about the bar owner, the family, the story, but
he also you know, in turn, they have to care

(03:49):
about the patrons.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
And you could tell that he was a sincere, good guy,
like you know, his enthusiasm for what we do, right,
He wasn't stuck on himself. He was great and said, yeah,
you know it has to be in rest right off
the bat. And then to me, it's always a good
sign when someone's got humility and understands our cause and
our mission and comes that at us and says that's
a good thing.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
You know, we got to do something that's important.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
And you know it's interesting because we were at the
dinner one to the steakhouse and we were all talking.
It was early on and high end steakhouse. The waiters
tend to be there a long time, right, it's a
good job and they are professional and they're awesome. And
we said, you know, yeah, we do this thing. He says,
you know, you have to have a choking He says,
oh yeah, he said, you know, two bad ones, one die, right,

(04:37):
And that was a random man in the street survey
and it was another moment of you know, it happens
a lot, you know, and.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
It fits in with standard protocols failure rates among civilians.
And I would consider a waiter or restaurant staff to
be not trained. So you get into that fifty percent
failure rate of what you'd think, it just shows.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
You have a life commonality. And you know in every
instance they keep nudging you along, you know, keep going right.
You know when you get enthusiasm from you know, the
power rescue guy you picked you up. Yes, and also
obviously listen to the CJ Serve our country and you
know when you have that time and you put that

(05:17):
button on and he talks and I was just sitting
there like it was a movie, you know, and it's
pretty crazy stuff.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah, but you know that the other thing too, just.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Having the time to really listen to honor, the code, communication,
the dedication. You know, he gets a message you got
to come. He just landing. He drove all night. It's
five o'clock, them on you got to be here, Okay,
He gets some car and drives.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
No questions.

Speaker 6 (05:42):
The love of his friends serve with yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
And they're all like that, you know.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
And the question I asked him on the way back
is do you think you know great difficult situations for
probably twenty years in battle in this country and overseas.
I asked him how important that's report was because we
just knew through stories about his wife Susan and his
son Britt, how much he values that relationship and how
important it is to him, and if anything could make

(06:09):
those situations more bearable or give you know, give you
more of a foundation to rely on. And he said, no,
no question, without the strength of his family support system.
And when he talks about family.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
American hero.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
But I tell you, getting that amount of time, if
you ever drove to Manhattan and New York from Long Island,
do you have a lot of time to talk really
gave me a deeper appreciation for our military and the
guys that did this stuff and It also gave me
more of a continued passion to make sure, particularly since
the Red Cross said when it can't be done, your
shoes a light back or claric device to keep pushing

(06:47):
far veterans.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
But yeah, he does tie into what that absolutely.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
And you have another aspect of talking to CJ. And I.
You know, I said, listen, I've never been in the military, Arthur.
We have an appreciation pat military background. But what was
interesting is movie lines, which are instrumental in sorry, can't
alive your book. I when CJ would tell a story,
I would throw out a sorry. This is like, you know,

(07:12):
we're good men the movies. This is like Forrest Gump,
Lieutenant Dan Right, that came up came the celebration day
when they're going to graduate, and he said, that's the fact, Jack,
So it does. And he appreciated that because.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
That's a cool story man. Right.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
So when they went through their training at the five
week mark, right, is kind of where you're over the
hump to some extent, either go home or you continue.
And his unit started at forty it was nine and
twenty nine. That's who made it. The graduation. He caught
a guy and he said, do you have a stole
dip And he's like, no, no, no, pull his lipiazz.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
He said sorry, call back. Then they caught him the
last day, so.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
They let him go through two more weeks and night
before graduation, family's there, ceremonies. Oh gone.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
And it was because he lied, Because he lied.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
If he just showed his lower lip and he said, no, no,
that's not dip, that's remnants.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
But that's right there, yeah, right, yeah, he's got to
see someone just and he never got it. But it
showed to me that there is the seriousness of the
commitment and the commitment to the cause for each other
to management.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
It was a good day. It was a great day.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Back to the book, which we're going to talk about
a lot, and it's again, Sorry cant is a Lie?
Please if you don't have it, go to life back
dot net and order a copy of this book by
Arthur Lee, Sorry Can't is a Lie? And chapter six
it says, sometimes you have to just say what WTF.
So we're a family oriented show, so we're gonna go

(08:47):
with the acronym. We all know what it stands for.
The first example you bring up, which is something we
can all most of us can relate to. It's the
little rascals, And I knew the scene immediately, and I've
quoted that a lot of times. Where are we going, Steiny?

Speaker 5 (09:01):
Oh no, we're going, but we're on our way, right.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
But in the book and in my brain, and I
was thinking more of this, particularly have to spend time
with the colonel today. It has a huge amount of applications.
But that was my first kind of look into it.
And when you analyze that, that moment right with a
cruising down the hill, you're a little kid. I was spanking.

(09:24):
I'm thinking that was fun. I'm too dumb. He realized
that could kill us.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
You know, is just laughing.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
He's laughing, is the greatest thing in the world. He's
focused on driving and Stein is freaking out. But you know,
as a kid, I thought, well, it was funny, it
was cool, and I thought it was fun right absolutely.
Then you have the years where you say, that's so dangerous,
my kid, I gotta think, but life is all three
of those, you know, and everything we do of a significance.

(09:52):
It's going to have some fear, right right, But sometimes
you gotta say, what the heck? And the analogy in
that one is you know, I think he's focused, So
you got to focus time you're scared, well, you should
be going down things, but Spanky's out on the blast.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Yeah, so all.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
These have to be regulated when you get involved in
a decision, right. Yes, there's going to be fear right
whenever you do something right. But that was when kind
of my first kind of looking I.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
Don't know where we're going, but we're on our way.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Well, to bring it back to your invention, you had
to say it because a lot you had plenty of
thought processes out there that would say I'm gonna say what, but.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Using maintaining that kind of moment, the words I don't
know where we're going, but we're on our way is
significant and it's important and it's good. It's cool. You
don't aways have to know where you're going, right, you
just got to go on your way. Right when with
life back, I didn't know how I was going to
get there. It's called himenting something I guess. But it's
also cold. I don't know where I'm going, but I'm

(10:53):
on my way, So I knew I wanted to go somewhere.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
I didn't have to get there. We'll just start going.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
You know, and then you have the fear and you
got to focus your diggy. You time me going, oh
my god, how am I gonna get there? But Smig's
having a good time. So when I was experimenting and
playing with things, you know, it was fun to some extent.
I had a focus at a study and a rot
to forces, but it was creative.

Speaker 7 (11:19):
I think it's almost you're outside of your comfort zone
a lot. But the fun part for you is you
know you're doing it for a good course, right, you know,
the end goal is life act. There's days or even
weeks where you're like, why am I doing this? Yeah,
and you just keep plunging ahead.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
But it plunging the word pad did you do that
a purpose?

Speaker 3 (11:38):
It's a plunger. So that's how good approprise. But the
combination is uh not to be scarce us. That's what
it is. Right, there's gonna be fear like and we
can't let that one win.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
We go it's scary.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
I'm not doing that or the impropose, you know, the
famous I don't know how to do that. I don't
know to go. You'll find out that way down the hill.
If you're going to smash into the Haybill. You know,
maybe that's the way to go.

Speaker 7 (12:04):
You should have probably had CJ on tonight talking about
being outside. Yeah, yeah, but that situation, yeah, actually that
situation where he's you know, I just got to invent
something new.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
That's how we live, and it's I don't know where
we're going, but we're going.

Speaker 6 (12:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
I mean there's is almost a little different. We don't
know where, but we are going. There's not a lot
of fun parts in theirs. No, well they actually they
occasionally some fun too.

Speaker 6 (12:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
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Now on iHeartRadio, more of the Man in the Arena,
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Speaker 10 (14:40):
Here again are Arthur Lee, and Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
And Patrick O'Rourke. You can see him right to my
left where you can hear him to my left.

Speaker 6 (14:48):
It's on the radio.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Right right, we're back. We're talking about Arthur's groundbreaking book.
I'm gonna call it Groundbreak, much like Baby Steps Doctor
Leo Marvin groundbreaking book. Sorry an't is a lie. You
can pick up this book Lifeact dot Net probably will
be available in other arenas, probably on Amazon soon. But
Lifeact dot Net not only can you get the book there,

(15:09):
but you can also get the authentic Life Actor. Back
to chapter six.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
What we're talking about, So my young brain is not
putting these together yet, they're subconscious. Right, that was fairly
a lunatic jumping bikes and anything like that. You were
playing soccer. But we're all hanging out one day in
my parents' house and we're shooting pool, having some beers,
were going to go out after and something happens, and
I think it was my friend now said it just

(15:34):
doesn't matter, you know, and then one of the other
guys just before you knew it, we were marching around
the pool, David, just doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
It just doesn't matter. It just and it's.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Funny how life instances stick with you, right, because we
were just cracking up and having a great time, laughing
and saying it. But when you retrospectively look back, what
does matter?

Speaker 5 (15:59):
You know?

Speaker 4 (16:00):
And that ties into the fear part. Is it really
what are we afraid of?

Speaker 3 (16:04):
We have family is good, If every what's the big deal?
It just doesn't matter. But when you if you want
to take on a huge challenge, you kind of need
these in your pocket, right. You have to understand that
there's going to be feared. You focus and concentrate and
don't be braid and laugh part of the time, right
because it's an adventure.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
It just doesn't matter. Is he gets okay, You're okay?

Speaker 5 (16:27):
Just doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Oh my god, we're gonna so and so is gonna
come in and the stupid protocol guy said.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Something North Star is gonna come in and beat Camp mohawk.
But I absolutely worship Bill Murray all his work, and
he attributes or writers have attributed that very early movie
that he was in meat Balls and that scene as
part of his that's how he listens.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Well, you ever see him on the golf course like
he's he's the it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Matter golfer where everyone's freaking out. You ever play with
a guy like that, you want to smash from the end.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Take it too serious, You're not playing for anything. No
one's watching.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Well, I mean obviously it's cool and all, but he
has more of it, just done that, like he's having
a good time relax.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
H On his clothing line, Bill Murray William Murray clothing line,
it says the more you relax, the better you are
at life.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Well, once again that all these little bits and pieces
that kind of create the book and then come into
adulthood or now we're adult adulthood.

Speaker 6 (17:28):
Third period the game.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
I think we're.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
I think we're start of the fourth quarter.

Speaker 6 (17:34):
Man, Yeah, yeah, I might be an overtime.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
But you so now you.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Take these life lessons and the books about that, and
then you you reflect to understand what they really mean
to you and what usefulness they are. Right, And I say,
I think it's this chapter where I say, you know,
think about it, and it's so wild because today I
was watching a clip.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Right, the video thing, and it was a little baby.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
In the nursery and she took her first step, right,
and the aide is sitting there and she sees her
kind of breakaway and she gives a big smile.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
And said, come on, come on, and she gives her
a big hug. Right.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
I remember Jackie's first step, right, she's cruising around the
coffee table, you know, using it, and then it was
almost like she's got you couldn't walk. She went and
took off, you know, and it hit me then breath
and you know, I know, and not a lot of
people get to see their first step, and I am

(18:33):
you know, I'm not trying to say that you should cry,
but you should think about it. That how great our
children moments are. But she took off with out fear. Now,
I think it was because she kind of had momentum
like leaving orbit. She was cruising around the table.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
But all the great things in life, right, your first step,
your first date, your first kiss, your first game, Right,
you're playing a game in front of people.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
I remember going on a basketball game freaking out because
it was that little thing and I'm like two foot
eight and you're scared it.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Talk a lot about overcoming fear and you know, getting
out there.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Well, I think when in retrospect they look at it,
we say I'm afraid, and my brain says you should be.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
That's part of it.

Speaker 6 (19:18):
That's something new.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeah, don't worry about it. Everything great.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
You ever did add fear? I'm asking a girl like
the skate they roller skating?

Speaker 6 (19:27):
I still do.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Make me very no, But did do you remember that
you didn't have to ask a girl to skate?

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Arthur? You say that and my palms are starting.

Speaker 6 (19:39):
Yeah, we had to get rejected face to face.

Speaker 7 (19:41):
Nowadays, we had to actually asked the girl and she
would say no.

Speaker 6 (19:45):
To you.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
You're walking around the mall and you're like, and you
pass them like four hundred times?

Speaker 6 (19:53):
How long can I hold my stomach in? That was
my problem.

Speaker 7 (19:56):
So when you talk about to have a funny story,
my son conn when he was seven years old. The
it's just play a little league baseball and by the
end of the season he goes dead. When the ball
used to get hit to me, I'm not kidding, my
knees would shake when they came to me. Now my
knees aren't shaken anymore. You know. Yeah, you know a
new thing. You're terrified. Yeah, but I remember I said

(20:17):
you'll you'll be fine, and thinking to myself it happened
to me too. In sports, like the first time you
haven't played anything, you're like, oh, man, don't come near me,
don't come here being pretty good, and you're like, oh.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
I like this, and by the end they hopefully you
say now I hope you and they get that guy.
But I guess for the listeners and for anyone reads
book or anyone taking around the challenge, the fear is
not to be unexpected, right, It's part of anything great
you do and eventually be the smanking the bank laughing.

Speaker 7 (20:45):
You know, you crashed, So what it'll happen to you know,
whatever came easily that that ends up being great?

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Nothing, No, but yeah, absolutely, But when I retrospect to
look back to say, you know, getting hit the ball
well that was because you're playing the game. He got
great and you loved it. And the girl when you
asked her, you know, and she said, yes, it was fantastic.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
You know.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
So fear is part of whatever we're going to take on, right,
So don't expect that to say, oh, I'm afraid, so
I won't do it because I'm afraid. I shouldn't be afraid.
Of course you should be afraid. Everything great.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
You should be afraid. But that's when you say what.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
The f or it just doesn't matter and you get
those two goofy things using them for good, right, And.

Speaker 7 (21:28):
How many of those moments in your life do you
look back and go, thank God I did that.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
I wasn't gonna My life would be different if I
didn't do that.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
My business. The reason I am the really.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
The bottom line was I said I want to take
my shot because if I can make this work, I
could retire early. And I've done it, and if I
don't do it, I'm going to look back and say
I should have done it.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
And yeah I was scared, people around me, really scared.
But it was two.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Skill are so so bring you back to twenty twelve.
You have a rough version of the life fact and
you're out at the beach for your camping trip with
your daughter and you're contemplating do I keep this to
myself or do I undertake this monumental task to change
the world eliminate choking. Was there in W two? I

(22:13):
know there was a prayer moment, but was there a
WTF moment?

Speaker 5 (22:17):
Well?

Speaker 3 (22:17):
I think it was probably more of it just doesn't matter,
honestly in that sense, because when the Devil and the
Angel of fighting and the Devil.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Saying, man, you made it retired, dough to safe? What
are you jerks?

Speaker 3 (22:28):
You even get clobbed or they're gonna tell you, you know,
you're gonna get a medical and the angels and.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
These people actually spoke exactly like that.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Well, they're the two.

Speaker 7 (22:39):
You know what the moment was, I could be comfortable
the rest of my life and I'm right, I'm gonna
put it out there and risk it, and you know,
let's see what happened.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
It was It was more of a had to do
it and felt it just doesn't matter if I fail, right,
I have to go do this right, so it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
Matter, and the real it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
It was so when I'm she put her in at
ten she was sleeping, and I said, I looked at
the sky.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
This is a true story.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
The beautiful night, greats out bay man and I looked
up and I said, God, give me a strength. And
as I said strength, the shooting star went across the
sky right. So in essence, he said, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Go do it. You got it.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
I got you back, and from then on, no matter
what happened, I said, it doesn't matter, I have to
do it. The guy, big guy told me I'm good,
So it doesn't matter what happened, right, and trust me,
we got glovers.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Oh my god, it's a good globe.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Well you handle it.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
It's a way to take some of the things we
all know from popular culture and analyze them, to take
some of our anxiety out. I hope you know I
agree to have in a blast.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
One of the greatest fears is well known to be speaking.
So people say, I'm afraid to give this speech. Afraid,
and I just heard advice recently of saying what that
you know, WTF? But also of course like accepted, and
of course you feel nervous. This is crazy about to.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
Do the first time I do was social studies. I
think Miss Davis. Do you guys remember she was like
dam the whole time?

Speaker 6 (24:12):
Yeah, I got a ninety nine of my regents final
I loved.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
She was really hammer that day, but look good to me.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
To do a speak in front of clubs, it was terrified, man.

Speaker 7 (24:24):
Something what public speaking never really bothered me? And my
friends were all terrified by it. Well, you thought you
were naturally not even comedy.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
I was.

Speaker 6 (24:30):
I was just the youngest of six kids, like.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
You want to do yeah, already earlier.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
Were you scared, like the first time you went on stage?

Speaker 6 (24:39):
Yeah, of course, of course.

Speaker 7 (24:40):
I mean I bar attended for twenty five, twenty years,
and everyone's like, you should be a comic and yeah right.

Speaker 6 (24:46):
It's a big, big leap. Hell yeah, sitting behind a
bar and then getting on stage.

Speaker 8 (24:50):
You know.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
So when was the first time you went on?

Speaker 6 (24:53):
Like two thousand and one.

Speaker 7 (24:55):
And eighty second and first the comic strip and Brian
signed me up for it.

Speaker 6 (25:02):
Yeah, like, I did it, So you do it?

Speaker 4 (25:03):
How'd you do?

Speaker 6 (25:04):
I killed?

Speaker 5 (25:05):
Hey?

Speaker 7 (25:06):
I did really well, But I already had a bunch
of jokes from bartending for years.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (25:10):
Yeah, Like I just basically did all of that, and
I told all my friends, so I'm going to do
this this open mic.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Was the Olympics sports, Uh, the Winter Olympics, part of that.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Original original not the original, but could you still do
your original set?

Speaker 6 (25:22):
I have to go look at it. The guy I
had it taped so of the dated oh god, oh yeah.
And you thought you were so good. You're like, I'm
gonna be the next Richard now you watch so bid.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
Yeah, but you want to know to tie this in right, right?
So we were talking.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
I was with Joe Pisco, Well we were hanging out
and were just getting like him like c J was cool.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
You know.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
I was talking, how'd you get into comedy? And he says,
you know, well, you know a knack. So I went
down to the comedy store and the line was out
the door. Caroline's I guess was the big one of
the back.

Speaker 6 (25:54):
The fact that it was on forty fourth Uh the improv.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Yeah, so what he said.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
He by the time he got the line was out
door said okay, I got it. Next time, I'm going
to go back, like two in the morning for the
next day, he said. He got there. He said the
guys online Jerry Steinfeld and Larry David.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
And but to me, that man, that's what it takes.
The reason they're online at two in the morning and
you were the third guy because you, the guys have
succeeded and you're willing to put it out there and
get there. When the first time I went on Shark Tank,
to go on Shark Tank, I was second in line
because I slept there.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Of course.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Yeah, that was a fun trip, but that could be
a show just talking about all.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
The crazy people online with their great ideas.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, you're listening to Arthur Lee Patrick. Yeah, we're going
to get to Shark Tank. I want to get back
in the remainders for this segment to this risky business
quote because that's the title. So I want to read
you what Miles actually said. So listen to Miles who
speaks to Tom Cruise, who's named very you know, very

(27:00):
talent Joel Goodson like good Son. But anyway, Miles says,
what gives you freedom, Freedom gives you opportunity. Opportunity makes
your future. So your folks are going out of town.
So your folks are going out of town place all
to yourself. And that's it. I mean, that's the actual title.

(27:22):
Of this chapter, the full sentence. Sometimes you just have
to say it.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Well because at the end and the administrator that he's
terrified of says, you got to say it, you know,
and retrospectively, the time movie was cool, you got and
they didn't.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
They did get chased by Guido the killer pepys.

Speaker 6 (27:46):
It's got that dance out of it.

Speaker 7 (27:48):
Come on, guys, yes, oh my god, we've all embarrassingly
done that ourselves and broken.

Speaker 6 (27:55):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yes, but here's the thing taking it looking back, he said,
what the heck is all worked out right, and this
adventure of a lifetime. And I think if we combine
that fear with the what the heck with taking a shot,
you have the adventure of a lifetime. Now, fear is
building us not to do anything too bad, right, But

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we can't be afraid of everything.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
We can't let it rule us.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
You know, there's a bear, Yeah, be afraid and climb
a tree or something, because you should be as scared.
But when we tackle things or face with things, we
can't let the fact that we're afraid intimidate the decision
too much.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
It's going to be part of it.

Speaker 7 (28:39):
I'm afraid of heights, Brooklyn heights.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Those health stay afraid.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
You're listening to the man in the arena with Arthur
Lee and Patrick O'Rourke, and we'll be right back.

Speaker 11 (28:52):
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who was two at the time. I looked over and
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Speaker 9 (29:19):
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(29:39):
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Speaker 5 (29:50):
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Speaker 3 (29:50):
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(30:30):
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Speaker 1 (30:48):
Now on iHeartRadio, more of the Man in the Arena
the Life Back Radio Show.

Speaker 10 (30:54):
Here again are Arthur Lee and Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
We've been talking about chapter six of the book. Sometimes
you just have to say, what the flip? What the flip?

Speaker 4 (31:03):
Hey, there, you Yeah, thank you Gary.

Speaker 6 (31:07):
Yeah, so we were like Gary as a long snapper.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
We should have Gary on one time.

Speaker 7 (31:11):
Yeah, definitely, absolutely, a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
There's so much massive people might have fear and Seaford.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
That runs through the fabric of this show, so we connect.

Speaker 7 (31:24):
Romano was supposed to be based out of Seaffort, that
show Everyone Loves Raymond.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, I didn't know that. So Larry Ramana, who I
don't know if I mentioned him. He's supposed to be
joining us, but he's not. Is from the show King
of Queen, King of Queens, which I was supposed to be.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
He was a really nice guy. I got absolutely the
cancer thing and.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
You met him at the Breast Cancer Awareness and so
I met him at on your introduction. I met him
at the Guide Dog that Dog's uh event. That okay,
he's absolutely he wanted to look for a venue for
this thin Red Line member Bill and he was looking
not just just donated or to raise money for himself.

(32:05):
He wanted to partner up with someone that had the
media platform. And he's mistakenly thought. I mean I tried
to do anything I could to help him with it,
but you know, we don't have foot in.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
That Pat has his Pat sod on now so we're
and also got a correct it.

Speaker 7 (32:20):
You also said King of Queens, but no, Kevin can
wait with about massa Peak. But that's the one The
Queens was about queens about Are you sure?

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Then he lived in mass Peak?

Speaker 3 (32:31):
But he had all American obviously, you know, because I
was a trucking guy, right so, and he's kind of
a regular dumb guy like us, you know. And that
show to me was great. I thought that and when
I met him, because he his character was really funny.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, and he out kicked his corverge. Let's be honest
with the cast. He probably was involved with casting, as
is Adam Sandler all his movies always gets.

Speaker 6 (32:52):
Yeah, but they made bit it. They were always pointing
out he got her right.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
You know.

Speaker 7 (32:56):
And that was one of the few series, maybe Signfeld too,
where never jumped the shark. The last two or three
seasons were as good as the first four or five. Yes,
you were.

Speaker 6 (33:04):
You were crush when it went off the area like
keep going.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
But it makes you realize that you need good riders,
and you need the right.

Speaker 6 (33:10):
Cast and characters.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Yeah, and but he was perfect, you know, and he
was every guy at work, whether he was me all
the time, you know, just the goofy stuff he did
and forgetting you could relate, yes, exactly, particularly because he
was a truck driver like so even at work.

Speaker 6 (33:27):
Not even like the stuff at home.

Speaker 7 (33:28):
At one time he was piling the garbage up and
he obviously was he should have taken it out. He
left it for the next person, piled the cup on it, walked.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Away exactly all those things. But not wrong with that.
I mean that's humor and that's good and part of what.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Frank was Frank Stanza in a different role, he was.

Speaker 6 (33:49):
His father father. Yea, he carries father in The Queens.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
Arthur.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
His name is Arthur.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Having not really diligence of that show. Was Arthur as
good as fran Costanza?

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yes, yeh, he was great, huge part of it, really great.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Yeah, he was great.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
I might have to go back and read this show
binge watching the next notes to him.

Speaker 6 (34:14):
Just watch King of Queens for a couple of.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
You know what, if you look back at all these people,
even that, what was that Ben Stiller?

Speaker 4 (34:22):
Was he the he was still mirror?

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
All of them had w TF, right, anyone who's great
had w t F. If you look at even you
go back to Elon, or you go back to Jeff Bezos,
you go back to Brian, right Brian. And one of
the great things about his show is when he showed
the letters that go from here to all America.

Speaker 6 (34:46):
And from t G I S t G I wasn't
good for t G I S the.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Rejected Yeah, but that's I mean, but then you start going,
Holy count.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
It's all part of it, persistence, and if we can.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Do anything is we're in the fourth quarter, is to
kind of share these backward stories, right to say, look, man,
don't worry about being afraid.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, especially now for those that like yourself who did
it early on and Brian who did it early on,
and we all I'm going to go way to school
for the first time. Yeah, I'm gonna like I always
remember when Brian was doing this cable show and for
all of us it was you a lifetime and he
enjoyed the heck out of it. But at a certain

(35:28):
point he was built for bigger things.

Speaker 6 (35:31):
Right, He's going to California. The rest of us have
a good jobs.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Right, Yeah, and he had to do it. He couldn't
stay and like stay with all these great friends and
fun stuff and then become where where he is today
without that leap of faith to California.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
When I first started my Anfreid company with my partner Bob,
who was amazing, dude. We I had a good, good job.
You get the golden handcuffs, right, Yeah, everyone told me.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Oh, you got a great job. You do good.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
You gotta as you do it great.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Well. See the guys that were exploiting you, right, Mostly
the people from that were.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
Well because you know, comfort is a great spot. They
were right. That was being good living and you know, working.

Speaker 7 (36:15):
But the passion part of it too that like you know,
it didn't happen over night for Brian, you know, ten
twelve years he said, he was like thirty two thirty three,
making like thirty six thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 6 (36:24):
Yeah, it's like I couldn't get married. I couldn't do
But but it's the passion. I'm going to keep going.
I'm going to keep going.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Life's like thirteen years now, yeah, and my first company
keep going. Someone said to me once on a kind
of was like, you're wrong, he said, ten years, he said,
you will not no matter what you tackled on the
way to greatness ten years and with life my first time.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
He was absolutely right.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
We weren't really making much money or anything for ten years,
made a living, got successful after like back, same thing
took really ten years for it to make enough momentum
and get enough out there. And so that's another thing,
you know, don't expect that that happened the open night.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
You know, how did how did I mean that brings
us right into the middle of COVID. How did the pandemic?
Did that play with the timeline? Well, speed it up,
slow it down?

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Well, probably slowed it down a little bit. But you know,
we didn't have anything anyway. I was working in Lenny's
ice cream closets and yeah, so we didn't really haven't.

Speaker 7 (37:24):
And you were all over serious like you're all over
TV now because a lot of people watch a TV
during COVID.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
Yeah, that would have been you know.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
Would have been nice.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
But we got an actually had a hunt when I
was during COVID because I had COVID plunk it out
of go.

Speaker 7 (37:36):
I hadn't seen you in like twenty five years, and
I remember watching that show going.

Speaker 6 (37:40):
I went to high school with that.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
Yeah, that's what he's doing now.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
One of my favorite massive peak well still what's already
up to One of my favorite reactions is wow, good
for him, But why didn't I think of that? Is
Mike Rogusa, the Plumber family business fifty years, He's like
smacking himself. I said that The difference is he was moved,

(38:05):
not that Mike isn't a great father. But I never
forget it's motivation, Like you connected, but you connected on
a personal level, not just the problem of the world.
You started by thinking about your own, your family.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
No doubt.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Without the accident, I don't know if I wouldn't been
able to do it, because I wouldn't have had the empathy.
I wouldn't have understood what it's like to lose someone
right in front of eyes that you love, right and because.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Of that pretty powerful motivation.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
And it was powerful motivation for her and then the
whole I knew their families, I knew what affected them.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
What's gonna you know, your kid choke? I have this thing.
I got to live with that.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
Uh uh.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
You're listening to the Man in the arena with Arthur
Lee and Patrick O'Rourke, and we'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
I'm sorry to bother you, but I have thirty seconds
to give you a very important message.

Speaker 8 (38:55):
My name is Arthur Lee.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
I'm the CEO inventor of life back, a simple choking
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We've saved over three thousand lives now, but we're not there.

Speaker 8 (39:07):
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(39:40):
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Speaker 3 (39:50):
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and a proud fall The did you know Choking is
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dies every five days. Now imagine your child, your spouse,
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(40:10):
can happen to anyone. That's why I created Lifeback. Lfe
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and gives you the power to act when every second counts.
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(40:32):
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Speaker 1 (40:48):
Now on iHeartRadio more of the Man in the Arena
the Life Back Radio Show.

Speaker 10 (40:54):
Here again are Arthur Lee and Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
You know who we have oh as a calling up hitter,
Mister Ray Preby, mister three thousand. Why do we call
him this three thousand? Because he saved his two year
old daughter and it happened to be when we were
counting down to We had all kinds of contests, and
we celebrate each and every save. But mister Ray Priby,
mister three thousand.

Speaker 12 (41:15):
Hey, everyone, how every one doing so?

Speaker 5 (41:18):
Ray?

Speaker 12 (41:18):
Yes, like you were saying, why am I number three thousand?
I was able to save my daughter using the life back.
She happened to be the three thousand person saved by
that device, which is just a godsend.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
He's a passionate dad, just a wing man.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
He's a man, absolutely, yeah, a passionate dad, like the
inventor h and like so many, so many others.

Speaker 6 (41:42):
But really not that passionate you haven't met.

Speaker 12 (41:48):
But on that note, Bobby, go ahead and run those numbers.
Three thousand, five hundred and forty eight saves thir days,
two thousand, two hundred and twenty two of them being pilgrimed.
So I'm gonna throw this little piece in as I
always do every week. So from October twentieth, which is
maya number three thousand saved one hundred and sixteen days,

(42:12):
we have five hundred and forty eighth May in one
hundred and sixteen days. Huge, huge numbers right there, all right?
The highlight of the Week two thousand, two hundred and
six Child save a six month old boy that was
choking on a piece of salary while trying to eat

(42:33):
his food. He took a bite of salary while also laughing.
When he took a breath in, it had sucked into
his airway. He immediately turned red and was gagging. I
tried back blows before my husband brought me the life back.
We laid them on the ground and used the life
back one time and it had come out. We are

(42:54):
very thankful we had it on hand and bought it
for this reason. We were having a baby who had
to have eventually learned how to eat. They actually had
one at my prior job in the break room. That's
when I noticed it during my pregnancy, and I immediately
knew I had to have it. I'm extremely glad that

(43:15):
I had it on this day.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
I love when you do your highlight, and I love
that you're with us.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
I love that your enthusiasm, and you know, we got
to hang out a little, so I love you.

Speaker 6 (43:25):
But also I always like to mention too. Threety eight
those are the ones reported.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Absolutely, it's much higher number than that, and we know
from our small sample size study and costco road shows
that we're doing, I mean just an average day, two
or three per day, will walk up to the life
Back display and stay to road o Ryan, Hey, road
show Ryan. I just used or my neighbor used. All
have a story two months ago? Did you report it?

(43:52):
Heck no? And then we've put these people in touch
with the website because you should go to lifefac dot
net and there's a nice little way to click on
a button to say. We always reach out to Donna
for guidance and she's always quick to appoint us in
the right direction.

Speaker 6 (44:06):
So Easter is late that you. Easter is April twenty.
First you think we'll have four.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
Thousand, Oh boy, you can actually start doing that new pool.

Speaker 5 (44:14):
We're going so fat that we've got to count down.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
Let's do that. Let's have a bet us three next show.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
We all pick our US three and of course, mister
three thousand, you're gonna have a y and Donna will
be able to throw.

Speaker 6 (44:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (44:28):
Yeah, I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
I've got two strikes against.

Speaker 12 (44:33):
That gentleman. Before I log off, my final statement before
I go Life Back have it and don't need it,
don't need it and not have it, A life will
depend on it.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Mister three K. We've been talking about the chapter from
the book Sorry Can't is a live by Arthur Lee,
who we've been speaking with. Of course he's the host.
I'm Rick Patrick Patrick o'oric. But we've been talking about
sometimes you just have to say W two F and
each show don't necessary drives the show, but we talk
about each chapter. What do you think I mean? And

(45:04):
we just take two shows. Jim Kerr Radio.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
Oh my god, that was amazing. Well you know what
radio guy man.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
When he just started speaking, it's like this wave, it
just goes and you're like, whoa, that's cool.

Speaker 6 (45:19):
And it's surreal, like you're in the room with him.
You like, I've only heard that voice through a speaker
my whole life and in my car and my shower.
Now I'm actually talking to him.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
You want to listen to Jim Kerr in the shower?

Speaker 6 (45:29):
But radio in your bathroom? I know that I used
to have that. To find a clock radio is impossible. Yeah,
I had to like six different stories.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
And the sharper I always had it was nine dollars.

Speaker 6 (45:44):
I'm like, what's the club?

Speaker 2 (45:45):
But anyway, but it was it was great meeting Jim
radio legend, and he I mean he told the story
mostly to spend time on us telling a story.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
The other thing that we're that in his imagery like
when he was he was just great. He had a
toking incident where he was at a bar and the
guy died and he came on and talked about it
in the sense of you know.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
This is real. You know I was there. But when
he was talking about where he was and the way
he described it, me.

Speaker 6 (46:10):
And him were like, can we go there?

Speaker 3 (46:11):
He's like, it's warm and it's cozy, and I know
the guy and that was like I was hard.

Speaker 7 (46:16):
It was cheers, but no, but the.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
Way he painted that picture, and that's radio. He had
this way.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Much better than visual and I have none of that where.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
The opposite like I can't see you guys.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Well he's been in just a match fifty years, fifty
years in broadcasting, and I said, yeah, we've been in
like five months, so yeah, we're good. We've got some time.

Speaker 7 (46:39):
But his voice is young, like he's still a lot
of guys when they get older, they get there, you know,
they get the old man voice.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
He is. He loves what he does. Yeah, he is past.
He says, I you know, he never worked.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
He loves it and you could see it in his youth,
in his joy and the way he moves. He was
so optim I wanted to take a second too to
think about the last two days. You know, we were
with Colonel Cjuglas Douglas. Thank you sorry, because he's just
CJ to me. But right, we call him, but Pat,
you got you know, you get to know him too.

(47:11):
But you know, we spend a lot of time riding
in the car and when you get time with someone
a veteran that has been over there and protecting our
country for a long time.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
Man, we got some amazing stories.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
That was a really cool day because spend the time
with CJS incredible. We were at the dinner once to
the steakhouse and we were all talking. It was early
on and high end steakhouse. The waiters tend to be
there a long time, right, it's good job and they
are professional and they're awesome, and we said, you know, yeah,
we do this thing. He says, you know, you have
to have a choking He says, oh yeah. He said,

(47:45):
you know, two bad ones one die, right, and that
was a random man in the street survey and it
was another moment of you know, it happens a lot,
you know.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
And it fits in with standard protocols failure rates among civilians.
And I would consider a waiter or restaurant staff to
be not trained. So you get into that fifty percent
failure rate of what you think.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
It just shows you have a life commonality.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
And you know, in every instance they keep nudging you along,
you know, keep going right. You know when you get
enthusiasm from you know, the pow rescue guy pickture up. Yes,
and and also obviously listen to the CJ Serve our country,
and you know when you have that time and you
put that button on and he talks and I was
just sitting there like it was a movie, you know,

(48:32):
and it's pretty crazy stuff.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Yeah, but you know that the other thing too, just.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Having the time to really listen to honor the code, communication,
the dedication. You know, he gets a message you got
to come.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
He just landing.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
He drove all night, it's five o'clock, them on you
got to be here, Okay, He gets some car and drives,
no questions.

Speaker 6 (48:53):
The love of his friends serve with yeah, and they're
all like that.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
You know, and The question I asked him on the
way back is do you think you know great difficult
situations for probably twenty years in battle in this country
and overseas. I asked him how important that support was,
because we just knew through stories about his wife Susan
and his son Britt, how much he values that relationship
and how important it is to him, and if anything

(49:20):
could make those situations more bearable or you know, give
you more of a foundation to rely on. And he said, no,
no question without the strength of his family support system
and when he talks about family.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
American hero.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
But I tell you, getting that amount of time if
you ever drove to Manhattan and New York from Long Island,
do you have a lot of time to talk really
gave me a deeper appreciation for our military and the
guys that did this stuff. And it also gave me
more of a continued passion to make sure, particularly since
the Red Cross said when it can't be done, your
shoes a light back or claric device to keep pushing

(49:57):
far veterans.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
Yeah, just tie into what.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
That absolutely And the other aspect of talking to CJ
and I, you know, I said, listen, I've never been
in the military. Arthur, you we have an appreciation pat
no military background. But what was interesting is movie lines,
which are instrumental in Sorry Canton Is Alive your book.
I when CJ would tell a story, I would throw
out a movie Sorry, this is like you know, this

(50:25):
is like Forrest Gump, Lieutenant Dan right, that came up
the celebration day when they're going to graduate, and he said,
that's the fact, Jack, So it does and and he appreciated.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
That because that's a man.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
It showed to me that there is the seriousness of
the commitment and the commitment to the cause of each other,
to management.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
It was a it was a good day. Gay.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Back to the book, which we're going to talk about
a lot, and it's again, Sorry Canton Is Alive. Please,
if you don't have it, go to Life Taught Net
and order a copy of this book by Arthur Lee.
Sorry Can't is a Lie? And chapter six it says,
sometimes you have to just say what the WTF. So
we're a family oriented show, so we're going to go

(51:12):
with the acronym. We all know what it stands for.
The first example you bring up, which is something we
can all most of us can relate to it's the
little Rascals, and I knew the scene immediately, and I've
quoted that a lot of times. Where are we going, Steiny, I.

Speaker 5 (51:26):
Don't know whe're going, but we're on our way, right.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
But in the book in my brain and I was
thinking more of this, particularly have to spend time with
the colonel.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
Today.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
It has a huge amount of applications. But that was
my first kind of look into it. And when you
analyze that that moment right with a cruising down the hill,
you're a little kid.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
I was Spank. I think that that was fun. I'm
too dumb. That could kill us.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
You know, Spank is just laughing.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
He's laughing. It is the greatest thing in the world.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
I thought it was fun, right, absolutely, but Spanky's having
a blast. All these have to be regulated when you
get involved in a decision, right, Yes, there's going to
be fear right whenever you do something right. But that
was when kind of my first kind of looking I.

Speaker 5 (52:13):
Don't know where we're going, but we're on our way.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Well, to bring it back to your invention, you had
to say it because a lot you have plenty of
thought processes out there that would say I'm gonna say what.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
But using maintaining that kind of moment, the words I
don't know where we're going, but we're on our way
is significant and it's important and it's good. It's cool.
You don't always have to know where you're going, right,
You just got to go on your way. Right when
with life back, I didn't know how I was going
to get there. It's called himnting something I guess, but
it's also cold. I don't know where I'm going, but

(52:45):
I'm on my way. So I knew I wanted to
go somewhere. I didn't have to get there. I'll just
start going, you know. And then you have the fear.
You got to focus your diggy. You s time me going,
oh my god, how am I gonna get there? But
s Meggie's happen a good time. So when I was
experimenting and playing with things, you know, it was fun

(53:06):
to some extent. I had a focus at a study
and a rotch of forces, but it was creative.

Speaker 7 (53:11):
I think it's almost you're outside of your comfort zone
a lot. But the fun part for you is you
know you're doing it for a good course, right, you know,
you know the end goal is life act. I mean
there's days or even weeks where you're like, why am
I doing this? Yeah, and you just keep plunging ahead,
but plunging the web pad.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
Did you do that purpose?

Speaker 5 (53:29):
Well, its a plunger.

Speaker 4 (53:31):
So that's sounded approprise.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
So we'll be back next week. I'm Rick. I'm with
Arthur Lee, CEO and ventor of Life Act on The
Man in the Arena.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
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