Gerald Wallace-Surrounded by Heroes

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also Pad O'Rourke, and today we have an extraordinary guest.
Doctor Gerald Wallace is the author of Surrounded by Heroes,
Twelve Essential Virtues for every Man, a powerful account of
the men and women who put everything on the line
in service to others. His work captures the human side
of heroism, the bravery, the struggles, and the triumphs that
too often go untold. In our conversation, we'll dive into

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stories behind the book, what it means to stand shoulders
and shoulder with heroes, and why remembering their sacrifices matters
more today than ever before. Get ready for an episode
that will inspire you, challenge you gonna be challenges, and
remind you of what true courage looks like. This is
the Man in the Arena with doctor Gerald Wallace. So
good to have you bring us back to the beginning

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when obviously you were listed.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Well let me tell you that the
genesis of the story, I really it goes back to
when I was twenty years old. I had the great
honor of being a sentinel at the Tomb the Soldier,
and at that time in my life, I had no
idea what the future held. All I know is I
spent hundreds and hundreds of hours out on that plaza

(02:21):
at the tomb, you know, soldier, many many evenings by
myself contemplating what was going to happen in life and
what was really important. And I was truly surrounded by
heroes that nightly. I was reminded of virtues that they represented,
whether it be the courage of an Auti Murphy, or
the vision of John F. Kennedy or the faith of

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John Glenn. These are heroes that I was surrounded by,
and it just taught me life lessons because as a sentinel,
one of the things I prerequisite becoming a badge holder,
which is a permanent centinel, is learning the history of
the cemetery, which is the book, right, and this is
the book I talk a lot about the history of
the cemetery and also those twelve different virtues I bring

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into play individuals that exemplified those virtues.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Was that part of the sentinel core was these virtues
are these your own?

Speaker 3 (03:10):
These are my own? But again part of the history
that we had to learn, and one of the prerequisites
become a badge holder of a Sentinel is to take
a test one hundred question tests you got to make
a ninety seven percent or greater on and it's various
history lessons of heroes of Arlington as well as the
history of Arlington and the United States Army in our country.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Jackie wrote a little chapter in my new book on
the power board. Do you think having all that time
and solitude, with that historic background to reflect help to
hands down?

Speaker 5 (03:41):
It?

Speaker 6 (03:41):
Did?

Speaker 3 (03:42):
I don't think any of us have enough time of reflection, right,
I mean, reflection really helps you learn what's core values
in your life, what really matters.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
I think that's so important now with this phone, right,
And she noticed that when we went on our trip
and she was away from it, you know, because they's
so programmed to look at it. We all are now.
But I was curious with you had learned this history
and now you had this solitude to just reflect to
process it. So I assume now is your next step.

(04:15):
But you've had all this history and all this time,
did that empower you?

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Well? Without a doubt those principles will call them. I
was able to apply in life thereafter. I mean I
got out of the Army. I went to college and
becoming a serial entrepreneur. So I had various business.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
When you say, yeah, that's what I thought when you
first told me that on the phone, I thought, you
know Captain Crunch, you know, you know Count Chocula.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
But it's not. Yeah, many different business, many different I started.
I started six or seven different businesses which.

Speaker 6 (04:47):
I all sold amazing in the construction.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
In Southwest Florida, anything from residential, commercial to development and
the like. That's what I did for thirty five years.
But it was the principles I learned as a young
man in their Olins cemetery that guided me. Whether it
was the perseverance of going through a recession. Like Jonathan Wainwright.
Who don't know about Jonathan Wainwright. He was the man
who was left behind when General MacArthur went off to

(05:14):
Australia in Sturn. He took off while they were trying
to protect him, and Wainwright was left there in the
Philippines and led the Death March of Batan. Well, yeah,
and was the highest rank in pow Ever that Japanese
just beat him and everything else for three plus years.
But became a Medal of honor winner.

Speaker 6 (05:32):
Was that an unbroken time frame.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
The same time frame. And again, perseverance was one of
the virtues I really locked in on because as sentinel,
there's so much training and so much endurance required that
the perseverance was something like grabbed behold of because I
know I needed it at the time.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
I don't think people know. Can you tell us a
little more about what the job entails. Well, well, job.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Entail's obviously twenty four to seven guard of the tomb
of the inal soldier. There's three reliefs and each relief
is responsible for twenty four hours on. So I was
third relief, which was the shortest relief, first relief for
the tall guys, the guys that are six three six four.
Then you have second relief, which your guys are about
six to one up to six three or so.

Speaker 6 (06:14):
Is that height requirement?

Speaker 3 (06:15):
There's a height requirement. It used to be used to
be a solid six foot barrier that you couldn't couldn't
go below. And I was the guy who broke the
six foot baier. That was always my claim, Yeah, baby,
break them barriers. I used the little cloud and I
was able to go ahead, and my CEO allowed you
to go ahead and become a tomb guard, and since
that time, I'm happy to report their many other sub
six nice There also is how long is this shift?

(06:39):
The shift is that that sit the reliefs on for
twenty four hours, and what you would have is typically
three or four walking sentinels who qualify to walk as
a sentinel in front of the public, and you rotate
all day long. So in summertime there are half hour walks,
in the winter time they're hour walks while those cemeteries open
to the public, and you rotate all day.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Two hours on four hours, well.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Half hour in the summer, an hour in the winter time,
and then in evenings are two hour walks, and it's
twenty four to seven that relief is on and then
the other relief comes on. You're forty eight hours off.
But during those forty eight hours you're training all your
new guys. You know the wash out rates like ninety
five percent last time I.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Heard it, Well like it like three in the morning,
starry night, cold, just you and the hero.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Well, those are the nights that you contemplated deep and long,
that thoughts about the sacrifices that were made for you
and the freedoms that you have. You're standing there and
you're thinking, you know, what am I going to do
with this gift? Because it really is a gift?

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Is that's part of the training. Is that part of
the training? What hey, you're going to be thinking?

Speaker 3 (07:41):
I think it's hard not to reflect, would think about
virtues like that when you're surrounded by so many heroes,
you're all alone reflecting things that really matter?

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Whatn't awesome? You know what? It's almost like if you
could create that course right, you get this history right,
and you you're told the value and the sacrifice for
our country, but then you sent off to go and
think about right, you don't run out of class, get
on your cell phone, check your tiktoks, and just let
it bleed right out of you ahead. This was almost

(08:13):
a forced contemplation.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well, there was a time, I believe it or not,
before social media everything else, we didn't have those distractions, right, such.

Speaker 6 (08:22):
Things as we certainly there.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah, I mean we've got forefathers like George Washington, Measurement
Frank Hunt that actually wrote how important character qualities are
and how these different virtues met so much. And that's
where the things they studied and poured their life into
because that's how you became man.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
When I wrote my book, I was trying to figure
something out, and I started pulling stories from my past,
right that made me, you know whatever, courageous or or
compassionate or grateful. And that's when I started pend them.
But I wasn't particularly looking to use them. I was
looking for a solution and found myself relying on them.

(09:02):
So when you went into business, you had a very
firm understanding, a deep understanding of things like gratitude, responsibility, duty, honor,
self sacrifice, right, right, So your your core was good,
it was solid. Yeah, not to mention discipline that milito.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Is also corporate.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
You can't drink right conditions.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
You can't drink alcohol, right, well, that's a fallacy.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
That I've got.

Speaker 6 (09:32):
That's discipline.

Speaker 7 (09:33):
You can't drink come on.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
That is a fallacy. But again, I've read a lot
of things that have surrounded social media, and nine of
those things are accurate. There are a few things like
that are inaccurate.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
Now you can drink all right, that's.

Speaker 7 (09:53):
Slowly out there.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
So now you go off and you have this in
you did you as you you had trials and tribulations draw.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Oh, without a doubt, a matter of fact. In each chapter,
as I talk about the different virtues, and I incorporate
thereafter a character to buried in Arlington that exemplified that
character quality. I also talk about thereafter how that virtue
was applied to my life, whether it would be the
courage to survive a recession and keep my people employed

(10:24):
and get through the five or six years we had
during two thousand and eight through twenty fourteen of a recession.
And of course in Southwest Florida where I was living,
that recession was severe. Yeah, yeah, sure, and so you know,
and there's some places it was worse than others, but
I know in Southwest Flora's worse than most places.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
Yeah, it certainly was.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
So all those virtues I kind of incorporate how because
I learned them as a young man. They helped me
in business as a business.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
But you know, what I think is really important is
the success that we tend to. Maybe you know, don't
think of these your go get or you're going to do.
You are a businessman. If you have these, you'll do fine,
You will do better than everyone. Do you feel that way?

Speaker 3 (11:04):
I strongly believe it right. Yeah, with that, without a doubt.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
I made light back to last Forever, cover your whole family,
and made in America. When I went to the first
big meeting with the investitudes, they said, you got to
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And I said, well, I'm not doing that, and we're

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successful and we're saving lives. And I think that if
you combine these qualities in your message to the world,
these are what make you successful, right, don't kid youse?

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Well, you take that one quality of responsibility, which you
know it's kind of out of ogue these days, but
you know I use Yeah, I use Philip Kearney as
an example. The Kerney Cross was the forerunner to the Medal
of Honor and Philip Kearney, his grandfather started the stock
market down in New York City and so he had

(12:02):
a choice because he didn't have to. I mean, his
work net worth was so my grandfather like a fantas. Yeah,
he had so much wealth, he didn't have to do anything,
but he wanted to serve and became one of the
great generals of all time. And like I said, that
his men came up with Karney Cross was the forerunner
medal of honor. He had a sense of responsibility. He's
just one of many examples that exemplify these different he

(12:25):
was he was in civil war.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
That's an interesting one. Responsibility. What I've learned too. I
think responsibility and sacrifice. Yeah, I think sacrifice has become
a really pass a thing. It's too hard. I don't
want to do it. And you know the if you look,
and I'm sure you know, I'm looking forward to the
story from this topic of learning that sacrifice is necessary prerectly,

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that we have to make sacrifice.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Like I said, the name of the book is surrounded
by heroes. And that's because every night, every day I
was out on the plaza the two I was surrounded
by sacrifice, whether it be the under my soldiers before
me and where all the other soldiers around me. Sacrifice
is a big thing, and in life we all know
that we have to sacrifice if we want to really
make our life matter.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
At least I felt this way, and we had guests
on the other day the same way that you know,
our first life is to feed our families, I will
make a living, and if we have these qualities, we
have a good chance of making a really good living,
which I did the first time. But you then start
to say, what else can I do? Right? Do you

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feel that way?

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Oh, without a doubt, that's the legacy portion of all
our lives.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
Yefully we live.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
For something greater than ourselves.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
But do you think if we put that out there
more often, that there is a legacy, that your sacrifice
to feed your family can lead to other avenues of
helping others Without a doubt, and that we do.

Speaker 6 (13:53):
That, We're going to take a quick break. We'll be back.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Oh my god, this, Gerald Wallace, this is so much fun.
We'll be right back with more.

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Speaker 12 (17:01):
Here again are Arthur Lee and Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Joined as always by Patrick O'Rourke talking to doctor Gerald Wallace,
talking of course about Philip Kearney and some of the
Twelve Virtues. I'm curious as to when you, you know, surrounded
by heroes the title of the book, Twelve Virtues for
every Man. Did you learn more from family and from
visitors or did you learn from the history lessons and

(17:26):
then the studies that you had to perform as a sentinel.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah, I think many different areas. In particular, I was
just sharing with Pat that I was raised military brat.
My father was a career army soldier, so we lived
all over the world, and that experience, as far as
in stealing certain things like duty and sacrifice, etc. Was
already there being sent on the tomb with so many

(17:50):
other things. Because I was surrounded by all these examples
of great virtues. Like I said, you know at the
tomb Audie Murphy is buried right across the way, and
of course Audie Murphy he exemplified courage. He was the
most decorated soldier of War two. But when he tried
to enlist, he didn't tried to en listen to sixteen,
they wouldn't take him in the Marine corps. Then he
tried to enlist for the paratroopers, they wouldn't take and

(18:12):
finally at seventeen the infantry took him in. He was,
you know, four foot eleven, one hundred and fifteen pounds,
not exactly the war too low type, but yeah, it
was the most decorated soldier world War two.

Speaker 7 (18:22):
Then became a movie star stars there after.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
That's right.

Speaker 7 (18:25):
Well the lifted heels because he was short, right to think.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
Yeah, but that's almost important to know that a hero
is dot size. Yes, anything, hero is someone as fortitude
and encourage and concerned. The well, Rick was.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Asking me about how the values got stilled over time.
What I was saying was, obviously that was raised in
such a manner that a lot of that stuff was
already inherent in me. But as a sentinel, especially the
reflective time that you were bringing up author many many
nights thinking about all those heroes and as a young
twenty one year old wondering what rest my life was

(19:00):
going to be about.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
Yeah, you know what and Ben Carson was big on
this and my book has got it throughout. Is those
lessons that we learned growing up, you know, and his
one of his huge passions is the nuclear family, and
you know some of his techniques to inspires kids and
to make sure they're on the right path. And can's lie?

(19:23):
Is my dad, we weren't allowed to say the word,
so immediately growing up you already had this vision of
don't use it BS, it's a lie, So tell a
Drew you can go, you choose not to or way
I can't do this is BS because you could right,
So that early year, your father, my father are values.

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Learning is huge. And then you add in the reflection
right when you were a sentinel outstanding moment of power
and clarity, was there one person or someone you saw
or a night that you can remember the epipoty, Yeah,
that's awe.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
I'd probably say more than one. I would think more
than once, but we'll give us one. Well, I mentioned
Johnathan Wayne right perseverance because when I first went down
as a sentinel. All the odds were against me. I
was sub six foot, you know, et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera, And so perseverance I held on too. And
I studied Jonathan Wayne Wright because he was an inspiration

(20:21):
to me. He was just the first of many heroes
that I got inspiration from.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
I think perseverance is another quality that gets lost in
the TikTok world. That would sacrifice both of those terms.
You know, it's difficult. I don't want to be you know,
when I was a kid, I walked up hill in
the snow. But it's not un conscious. It's unconscious. We're
losing those connectivity to Yes, it's hard. Great things are hard,

(20:49):
right sardi hat business is hard. Being a good person
can be hard. When I could have said, well great,
I was on the phone with a guy at ran
a union and he said, I can get it everywhere.
I'm man dated, but you got to make it expire.
You got to make it expire, and you got to
triple the price. Easy way.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
That.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
Yeah, fantastic. I get three times of money, and I
get it every year.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
It's not right, but that's when it's only about the money,
and that's the problem, the wrong thing. Yeah, and it's
about more than just the money for you, So you
got to make that decision.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Money is never should be involved in what's right or wrong.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Yeah, but in business world sometimes it gets overemphasized.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
I think though that your success life act success is
a testament to doing the right thing can make you
successful too. You don't have to take that deal. You
don't have to cut corner or do something that's not moral.
My chapter on f few Money, you know, that was
you know, to be prepared to stand up, and I

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think that's an amazing thing, particularly when it's tough. That
was what few Money was about because he was saying
that if you want to protect yourself from I can't eat.
I had to bet right.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Did you have moments in your life in the business
world most definitely, Yeah. Yeah. I mean I spent thirty
five years and I dealt with a lot of big
blue chip companies like Walmart, CBS and Chase, Manhattan and
all the rest of them. Building for them, did a
lot of commercial work, and there was times that they
weren't treating me the way I would think I should
be treated. There's time that you felt like they should

(22:23):
be paying me on time and they'd be playing games
and other things, because that's the way the business world
works sometimes. But you stick with it and you do
the honorable thing, and everything works out.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
It does, and that's what's important. My dad, you tell
me stories. They were a contractor for the government when
he worked on the F fourteen and when he was
on the space program, and they would impressure him, you
got to get this done for this price. You got
to get it done, and he would say, no, right,
these are men's lives at stay now. You can't you
do it cheaper? No, you know. And he had some

(22:56):
running where you know, manager was like, come on, all right,
and he'd be like, no, it's not that's not the
way it is.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Right, And and I had similar run ins. It was
only one running was required for me not to go
back to that client and work for him again.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
Oh yeah, absolutely. Obviously I didn't stay in touch with
the corrupt politicians. But that's put one second. In the
long term. Integrity pays, no doubt about it. Right, gratitude.
I saw that on here. I want to hear about that.
I love gravity.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, that's a good one. It's the first virtue. You know,
I put him in order for a certain reason. Gratitude
was you just want to write about because you know,
it's just something that I've always had a lot love.
And I use Pierre Laon, who is a French.

Speaker 6 (23:41):
French.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yeah, he came to America to fight in the Revolutionary War.
Volunteered to fight in a revolution.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Is he depicted in the Patriot or someone like him,
not that I'm aware of. Well, there was a French
came over and front side by side with that was
that was Lafayette.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Matter of fact, if you ever look at the layout
of Washington d C. All the streets and how they're alllined, well,
Pierre Lafont was the engineer who laid all that out
after the Revolutionary War. But he actually was an officer
with George Washington, and he volunteered. Came from France because
he loved the whole idea of the revolution and.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
He hated the British, but he made more got over.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
His gratitude in particular was what really exemplified him. But
he was grateful to be an American. Yeah, he was
grateful to be an American and the freedom that was
represented by this country. He came and served in the
Revolutionary War, and then stayed and eventually became the engineered
designing layout of Washington, d C. Matter of fact, if
you ever go to Arlington, Arlington House, which looks out

(24:45):
over Washington, d C. His grave is right in front
of Arlton House has a history too, and it's I
go into it in the book. Okay, it goes back
to George Washington actually, but Robert E. Lee lived there
for thirty years, also right with Civil War.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
And you know, it just hit me in your discussion
on gratitude it also could be a driving factor for success, oh,
without a doubt. Right, his gratitude for our country and
serving with us drove him to want to do that right,
you know, And I think, you know, for me, when
I see life saved, I'm grateful that they don't have

(25:19):
to know what I know. And if I really be honest,
that's what really drove this, right, that I am so
grateful they don't know what I know. And I never
really thought of gratitude as a driver. It was more
of an observation, a feeling. But if you think of
it that way, it really is a driving force. Well,
in the Bible and Luke forty eight twelve. It says,

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who much is given, much is required.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
If you think about that, there's nothing that can come
out of your heart o than gratitude.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
But I really never connected it to a driving force
to do something. And it's totally in life. That yeah,
and that's really cool. You know what, you got to
hang out. We got to bet on him on how
cool would that be?

Speaker 6 (26:01):
Have you met doctor Ben Carson, I haven't.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
I would look forward to the opportunity. Oh you'll get.

Speaker 7 (26:06):
There'd be no room for me.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
You need you, we need you for all that powerful
insight on that he's.

Speaker 7 (26:12):
Talking about how the guy designed Washington, d C.

Speaker 9 (26:15):
Philadelphia, A lot of the cities back then they designed
them in circles because they thought if people of a
revolt will be able to fight them off going out seriously.
And New York City's built like a grid. And they
were like, that'd be a terrible city if any whatever.
And it was riots all the time back in New
York City and they didn't, they would burn down half
the place.

Speaker 6 (26:32):
So the president, when you were the Sentinel, it was
Jimmy Carter.

Speaker 7 (26:36):
For that old you look fantastic, Well, thank.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
You appreciate that. That's a real.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah, Jimmy, Jimmy Carter was president for most of my tour,
and Ron Reagan got inaugurated in January of eighty one
and I got out in June of eighty one. So,
as a matter of fact, you remember when rom Reragan
got attempted assassination when that went down, I was actually
out on the mat guarding and the old soldier I
remember coming down that rainy March day. Yeah, yeah, I

(27:04):
came down, got shot.

Speaker 7 (27:06):
The other guy got shot crippled.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah, So I was there that day.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
Wow, did you meet Jimmy Carter?

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Oh? I saw him many times, but I can say
I met him. I always had a weapon in front
of me or a salute or something in front of me,
but I saw him plenty, along with a lot of
other dignitaries.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (27:22):
Did you see the attitude change when administration.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Would change majorly? A matter of fact, I write about
that in the book. Also as far as the the
vision that was recast by rom or Reagan, because you know,
during the Carter years of supposed Vietnam, post Watergate, you know,
post civil rights, all just all this negativity hangings over
the country. It was almost like we had this dark
cloud hanging over So Reagan came in. He made us

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believe in America again. Many things around.

Speaker 7 (27:50):
Yeah, yeah, that doesn't it.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
Did You do have moments of seeing a loved one
or or a parent or someone come there and really
kind of observe, right, because you have to be very stoic.
Yeah right, you know, I talk smile right.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
There was many a time that I would walk the
mat and there'd be someone on the end, and you
don't know who that person is. It could be a mother,
it could be a widowed wife, it could be a
daughter of someone who lost someone, et cetera. And you
could just tell that they're standing there reflecting on that
loved one. And of course you do your job stronger

(28:28):
and harder than ever because it's all about honor and respect.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
I remember standing on the Arizona and we talked about
oh and gratitude, really felt it strongly and it was powerful, right,
And that's what I would think being there with that
solitude and then seeing a family, you know, like you said,
any of the numerous potential people to have to stoically

(28:53):
objectively look at that, Yeah, has the effect.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yeah, there were so many different individuals, I mean from
I mean, there were some times and I knew, you
know that that old man sitting in a wheelchair was
probably a War War two veteran thinking about his friends
that didn't come back home with them, and just sitting
there watching me, And the whole time I'm thinking about
the life that he had, the sacrifices he had made,

(29:17):
and his friends with the sacrifice they had to make.
That kind of stuff just kind of wells up within you.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
What are the rules of engagement?

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Everything that the centinel does does indicate is twenty one
twenty one steps north south, twenty one seconds in each movement,
et cetera, et cetera, because twenty one gun sloop's highest
honor given to a dignitary. Okay, so everything's done twenty
one and everything's done with precision. And so if you
go there, you know, count the second.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
Have you been there?

Speaker 5 (29:47):
I haven't.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
I've been.

Speaker 9 (29:47):
I've been to the Lincoln Monument in Washington Monument. I
went to the University of Maryland. We used to go
down there for the cherry blossoms for a couple of weeks.
But I never wish Soldier, I wish.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
I did, But it's powerful in the precis very much.

Speaker 13 (30:00):
So.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
Now have you been there, Yeah, it was years and
years and years ago, but I was a kid and
during it was around not on our school trip. I
want to go now, my parents when we went there
and we took bikes around Washington. Yeah, the precision stood
out mm hmm, right, perfection.

Speaker 7 (30:19):
I never knew that all the twenty one I didn't
know that either.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Well, I talked about it in the Honor chapter. The
Honor chapter, I really spent how the Sentinels try to
give the highest honor to those unknown soldiers, what they represent.
So I talk a lot about how that's perfected in
the precision of the sentinels, or walks, the changing of
the guards, whole bit, just a lot of that history.
It's all about honoring those who deserve the highest honor.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Yeah, but I think that's not a publicly understood thing,
and that I took it in because to me, it
was like the ultimate honor. This was important, and this
was precision and precise purpose. It wasn't haphazard, this wasn't
taken lightly. The precision of which it was done increased

(31:05):
it in my mind to its importance. In my opinion,
that was a kid.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
I think that was always been the intention of the
sentinels at the two.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
I know, but that's another thing that people need to
actually experience it. I agree, right, And they ought to
take their phones off for a week after that sit
and reflect on what was done, because to me, I
can still remember it and that was stood out about
how the precision and the honor given, Yeah, and the

(31:34):
respect reference.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Hey in the thirty seconds, I'd like to hear what's
going on with the book thirty seconds.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
But we're like a real show.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah, we are presently trying to get it pitched to
a publisher. We are probably within a week or two
of starting to pitch the publishers. So it's been written
and we're obviously doing a lot of marketing and promotion
and blogs and other things out there.

Speaker 6 (31:57):
Way, bring up that QR code.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
That QR code, we'll have that throughout so you can
probably get it on our website and you certainly get
on your webs.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
We're trying to enlist everyone possible to become part of
the launch team. Help us out.

Speaker 6 (32:08):
We're in you know who's coming up next after the
break Road Show? Ryan Warner roh Joe. After this break,
thanks so much for being here. She started to choke
on a piece of candy.

Speaker 10 (32:19):
She wasn't breathing.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Then Ray reached for the life back in it saved her.

Speaker 14 (32:23):
She could have easily died that day. A life back
saved her life. What I would say is, don't need
a life back and not have it. Have a life
back and hopefully never need it.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Recently, the American Red Cross has added anti choking devices
as an option when standard protocol fails or is not feasible.

Speaker 9 (32:42):
Go to life back dot net or called eight seven
seven five four three three eight two to two.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Hi. I'm Martha Ley, CEO and inventor of life back,
a simple choking rescue device that thirteen years ago was
made my garage to protect my daughter.

Speaker 6 (32:57):
Now all of these lives have been saved thanks to
life BAC over four thousand lives and over two thousand kids.

Speaker 11 (33:04):
But still a child dies every five.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
Days for joking.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
Please, our family is everything to us. Consider protecting your
family in a choking emergency with life back. Go to
life back dot net today.

Speaker 13 (33:17):
Thanks net Ben Carson here with a potentially life saving message.
I may be a retired neurosurgeon, but trying to help
save lives is something I'll never stop doing. Every year,
this world loses around five thousand lives that could have
been saved from choking accidents. That's why I've partnered with
Life Back, a company base right here in the USA.
It is simple to use, can be used on adults

(33:40):
and children. Plus it's guaranteed for life. Most importantly, if
you ever have to use it in an emergency, they
replace it for free. Join me on my mission to
ensure every home, business, restaurant, and school in this country
has a lifestack. Go to the lifeac dot net and
order your very own life saving device today.

Speaker 10 (34:02):
Thank you.

Speaker 11 (34:03):
LIFEAC is proud to be at the forefront of innovation
in choking rescue. Recently, the American Red Cross updated its
guidelines to include anti choking devices as an option for
choking emergencies. This life saving update recognizes the importance of
tools like life Aact designed to help in traditional methods
may not be feasible or fail. LIFEAC is there when

(34:23):
seconds matter most. Join the thousands of families who trust
Life Aact. LIFEAC can make the difference between life and loss.
Go to lifeac dot com. To get yours today.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
Hi, I'm Arthur, the inventor, founder and CEO of LIFEAC
and a proud father. Did you know choking is the
fourth leading cause of accidental death. Tragically, one child dies
every five days. Now, imagine your child, your spouse, or
someone you love choking. You have only seconds act. It's
a situation no one wants to face, but it can

(34:54):
happen to anyone. That's why I created Life Back. Life
BAC is a life saving airway clear device that's already
saved over three thousand lives. It's easy to use, non invasive,
and gives you the power to act when every second counts.
Don't wait until it's too late. Visit lifefac dot net
today and use promo code life to save twenty percent

(35:15):
on your life back home kit. That's lifefact dot net
promo code life. Join thousands of families who own life
fact life THATAC can make the difference between life and loss.
Go to lifebac dot net and get yours today.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Now On iHeartRadio more of the Man in the Arena
the Life Back Radio Show.

Speaker 12 (35:38):
Here again are Arthur Lee and Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 6 (35:41):
Roads Show, Ryan Warner, Boom Joe Why do your road.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
Show because I'm on the road a lot.

Speaker 6 (35:49):
Sure, but you are the Costco man.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
So Costco has a great relationship with life Fact and
you've taken it by store.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
I mean, yeah, just a little premise that Ryan almost aid,
Poor Ryan, because I can't believe he does what he
does is all over the country goes in does he
and Cap sets it up and demonstrate.

Speaker 7 (36:10):
And it makes sense a lot of people choke.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
Yeah, a lot of food.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
Food.

Speaker 15 (36:18):
It's almost fourteen fourteen costcos seas and I tell you, okay,
dying to hear this.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
You're so now you're everywhere.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
Every I have some stats. We'll go over some stats.

Speaker 6 (36:30):
Yes, stats have stats later with Ray.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
Is that the guy got stacks? All right?

Speaker 6 (36:36):
Oh that's a Good Fellows reference.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Yes.

Speaker 15 (36:38):
So these road shows they started in December of twenty
twenty four.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
It's now August.

Speaker 15 (36:46):
So we've done twenty nine different shows different costcos, seven
different states. And over the total of those twenty nine
different stores, I've came to find out that we've actually
saved thirty nine lives that were unreported.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
So we have our report.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Okay, number that said, I told you, I say, my kid.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
Yeah, so someone comes up me. Oh, I saved myself
with it.

Speaker 15 (37:10):
I saved my son, my daughter thirty nine unreported saves
from being in twenty nine different costcos giving out fifty
four hundred and twenty demos.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
No wonder you so buff?

Speaker 5 (37:21):
That's that's not just me giving the demo.

Speaker 15 (37:23):
That's someone actually coming off and show them using it themselves.

Speaker 6 (37:27):
Using the place pushbull. So simple, wasn't it.

Speaker 15 (37:30):
It's it's simple, but some you know, some people like
having that talk about I don't.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Know if you've got to talk about it, but I
want to hear more finish stats.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
One more stat and then we'll get into ANXI assists.

Speaker 15 (37:41):
So total sales twenty eight hundred and sixty boxes, and
then there's two life backs in each box, so Pat's
our math guy.

Speaker 16 (37:49):
Untilverb five thousands the other whole yeah time fifty four Yeah,
good job.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
And then also in Brooklyn in the Brooklyn Costco.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Wait, wait stop, I don't want to go there yet
because that's huge and I want to hear that in detail.
But what I want to know is what's it like
when someone walks up and says, I use this to say.
Have you had someone say I.

Speaker 5 (38:19):
Say, my kid, it's Yes, it's incredible.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
And what is your brain and heart? Like I think
when you're standing there and they're like, that's what this
thing that you showing everyone do?

Speaker 15 (38:29):
I mean, honestly, my heart drops a little bit. I'm like, well,
I get taken back. I'm like WHOA, Like what we're doing?
You know it really matters, like we're actually saving people's lives. Yes,
it's kind of a crazy feeling because like, I've sold
a couple of different things in my life, but never anything.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
That actually well, you have the entrepreneurial heart and you
have a great heart and great family that I think
it's pretty cool that. I think it maintains your enthusiasm
because you're always so enthusiasts. People love you and they should.
But I think those little godwinks of getting those you know,
thirty nine saves or fuel it that. Do you feel

(39:06):
that way?

Speaker 5 (39:06):
Definitely?

Speaker 15 (39:07):
You know, it just picks me right back up. It's like, Wow,
this is incredible.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
Did any of the ones where they like, did you
have that? Because I had this happen to me. I
was at a fair in New Jersey and the family
came up and the kid that would say was there,
and they said, we saved him that you had.

Speaker 5 (39:22):
That. That's happened a couple of times.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
And they point the kids right there. Yes, do you
get to hang out and play with the kiddleuse? I do.

Speaker 15 (39:29):
Sometimes some physic are in a rush and you know
they're just passing and they just want to get to
where they're.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
But I know when that happened, to sit there and
actually spend a little time with the kid was so huge. Yeah,
because in my head, he don't know he wants to
pull on my nose or you know, get hung upside down.
But I'm saying he's here.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
He's here because of life back the reason for the
unreported save you said thirty nine. Do you think it's
more lack of knowledge that I should do it or
just people are you know I want to keep it private.

Speaker 5 (40:05):
I think it's a it's a solid mixture.

Speaker 15 (40:07):
Some people do want to keep it private because I
always highly recommend that they do report it after they
tell me about it. Some people don't want to do that,
and then some people do so that's their right. It's
really uh, it's fifty to fifty on whether they just
don't know that they can report it or if they
just don't.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
Want to you know, you see the gravity of it.
Sometimes that gray always breaks down when he talks about it.
I could see him saying, I'm you know, I don't
really need to relive this, right, I'm grateful, I got it.
I'm cool. Thank god, you know, I'm still shaking. We
don a clause them all the time, and they'll say,
you know, I'm already to even talk. Have you had

(40:45):
any of that are close? And they said yesterday or something.

Speaker 15 (40:47):
I had two, not in the last Costco as at
but in uh Chantilly, Virginia it was.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
Two and they said we used it recently, like.

Speaker 5 (40:56):
Oh recently now they're they're usually like thing six.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
Months traveling the country. Any observations nice people, bad people.
Difference is connectivity of the human spirit.

Speaker 15 (41:09):
So I mean, I'm in Costco is a lot when traveling,
so it's a lot of the same but different.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
That's what I was curious about, because you kind of
have an environment that would attract similar Costco folks Costco people,
But what is those qualities? It nice? In general? Do
you find people to be nice?

Speaker 5 (41:26):
Yeah, I think people are are definitely nice.

Speaker 15 (41:29):
Maybe in Texas they were a little bit nicer than
some of the place.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
Yeah, I could see that New York. I mean Texas,
think about it. Texas is the first state to actually
become eighty eight compliant, requiring schools every school, which they should,
so every kid has a chance. But I guess there
is a connectivity to what you're saying to what they do. Amazing. Okay,
you want to tell us a story, Yeah, better have time?

(41:53):
How much time? We got? Two minutes? All right? Two
minute warning?

Speaker 5 (41:57):
Rot life back? Save four that in twenty nine.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
The story of the guy you taught?

Speaker 5 (42:03):
Yeah, yeah, like fact say four.

Speaker 6 (42:07):
Nine.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
He's getting to it. Let's gold the headline the Brooklyn,
New York Costco.

Speaker 15 (42:13):
And I was doing my thing, doing being road show Ryan,
giving out demos to everybody in the store, and a
man named Angel who worked at that costcome came up
to me.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
He already had a LFE back unit, but.

Speaker 15 (42:25):
He said, you know, let me learn how to use
this thing, because he's got Charlie here and he's teaching
people how to use it.

Speaker 5 (42:31):
So he came up. He gave it a couple of attempts.

Speaker 15 (42:34):
Couldn't he wasn't doing it right. He couldn't remove the
little obstruction that we had in there. So I told
him how to use it push pull, and then he
finally got it. And a week later he was on
his way home to Staten Island.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
And on a highway.

Speaker 15 (42:50):
He got out on a highway there was a man
holding a I think it was a one year old
girl right limp, limp, one year old girl in his hands.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
He was driving his wife to a hospital, I.

Speaker 15 (43:00):
Think his wife to the hospital getting ready to have
a baby, and got out and saved this one year
old girl on the side of.

Speaker 5 (43:07):
A highway with the life back.

Speaker 15 (43:08):
And we got interviewed, so he actually said, he was like, Ryan,
I heard your voice in my head.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
Girls that it was incredible.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
That's it. You're You're good. You have a legacy. That
kid's alive because of you. Like the story we had
in coming up about giving one away. You know that
kid's alive because of you. And what a remarkable story.
Because then they got in the car and they all
drove and took every one I had their baby. How'd
that make you feel when you heard that story?

Speaker 5 (43:39):
Incredible?

Speaker 4 (43:39):
Do you remember him? Because when going back now in
your head you're training thousands of people. Did angels stand
out that.

Speaker 15 (43:47):
When he popped up on the on the call, I
was in the costco at the time and I saw
his face.

Speaker 5 (43:52):
I was like, Okay, I remember freak.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
You know what, after the break, we'll have rape creb
Mister three thousand. We thank right Ryan. You'll be here
in the next segment coming up after this break.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
I'm sorry to bother you, but I have thirty seconds
to give you a very important message. My name is
Arthur Leam, the CEO and ventor of life back, a
simple choking rescue device that could save a life.

Speaker 10 (44:15):
In a choking emergency. We've saved over three.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
Thousand lives now, but we're not there. Five thousand people
you choke to death.

Speaker 10 (44:23):
One child every five days.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
Please consider protecting your family in a choking emergency with
life BAC. Go to lifefac dot net today. Thank you
for your time.

Speaker 11 (44:33):
LIFEAC is proud to be at the forefront of innovation
in choking rescue. Recently, the American Red Cross updated its
guidelines to include anti choking devices as an option for
choking emergencies. This life saving update recognizes the importance of
tools like LIFEAC designed to help in traditional methods may
not be feasible or fail. LIFEAC is there when seconds

(44:53):
matter most. Join the thousands of families who trust life aact.
Lifeac can make the difference between life loss. Go to
lifeack dot com to get yours today.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
Hi, I'm Arthur Lee, inventor, founder and CEO of life
BAC and a proud father. Did you know choking is
the fourth leading cause of accidental death Tragically, one child
dies every five days. Now imagine your child, your spouse,
or someone you love choking. You have only seconds to act.
It's a situation no one wants to face, but it

(45:24):
can happen to anyone. That's why I created life back.
Life back is a life saving airway clearance device that's
already saved over three thousand lives. It's easy to use,
non invasive, and gives you the power to act when
every second counts. Don't wait until it's too late. Visit
lifefac dot net today and use promo code life to

(45:44):
save twenty percent on your life back home kit. That's
lifefac dot net promo code Life. Join thousands of families
who own life back. Life BAC can make the difference
between life and loss. Go to lifeback dot net and
get you a today.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Now on iHeart Radio more of the man in the
arena The Life Back Radio Show.

Speaker 12 (46:08):
Here and again are Arthur Lee and Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 6 (46:11):
And Pat O'Rourke. Pat, we haven't mentioned it already. You're
looking very thin.

Speaker 5 (46:16):
My friend.

Speaker 9 (46:16):
That's right, fat camp this summer nice twenty seven pounds down,
seven pounds down.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
Should put that on his recap. Yeah, well we can
do that. We can do that countdown.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
It is capable right where he can put it in.
And but you corrected us. It's not losing right.

Speaker 9 (46:32):
We can't can't say losing weight, you say dropping weight
or you know, because that's a negative connotation.

Speaker 7 (46:37):
You can't say lose weight.

Speaker 9 (46:39):
And you can't say cheat because you say you know,
I sighted them because that's also a negative connotation.

Speaker 7 (46:44):
So it's a bunch of hit but it's.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Good and of course joining us again. That is roadshow,
Bryan road He's not always here with us. He's out
on the road costcos across the country.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
And the first time he's here for right.

Speaker 6 (46:59):
Yeah, better look.

Speaker 9 (47:00):
In real life he is usually an angler looking up
the ceiling, very frustrated.

Speaker 6 (47:05):
I'm gonna go out on a limb.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
I don't know if his parents would concur but I
like him without the baseball hat.

Speaker 7 (47:10):
Yeah, still got it.

Speaker 6 (47:11):
Of course.

Speaker 15 (47:12):
It's a life fact. The baseball hat. It's got the
life back l e Ed. It stops the people coming
down a.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
Life with led.

Speaker 17 (47:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:25):
Yeah, we can't even get you a real shirt.

Speaker 6 (47:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (47:29):
He bought the l ed hat himself, and I'm.

Speaker 6 (47:30):
Sure it's in the works. You know who got a shirt?

Speaker 5 (47:33):
Anthony?

Speaker 6 (47:33):
Anthony. Yeah, we'll get it.

Speaker 7 (47:36):
We'll get it for you.

Speaker 6 (47:37):
We will get it done.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
But you know, this is the part of the show
that we celebrate each week because we get to speak
to mister three K.

Speaker 6 (47:43):
Why do we call him mister three K Arthur.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
We call him because he saved a three thousand life
and that's his.

Speaker 6 (47:49):
Daughter Maya, mister Ray preby mister three thousand.

Speaker 17 (47:53):
Thank god, Pat lost, but I'm sorry I didn't lose.
He what was the word drop?

Speaker 7 (47:57):
Drop?

Speaker 5 (47:58):
Right?

Speaker 7 (47:58):
That's right. Congratulations, Chair off the Queen Mary.

Speaker 17 (48:03):
Not much yet, road show, Ryan, great seeing you in
the studio. Well, folks, we've got some good numbers for you.
We are currently at three hundred and five days from
when I save my daughter number three thousand, so we
have sixty more days until the one year mark. So
I'm gonna go ahead and throw my number out there, folks.
Keep this number written.

Speaker 6 (48:22):
Down old predictions.

Speaker 17 (48:24):
Four thousand, eight hundred and twenty saves at day three
hundred and sixty five, which will be October twentieth, twenty
twenty five.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Exciting.

Speaker 6 (48:36):
This is a whole side side action.

Speaker 17 (48:39):
The average slide action right here reported and that will
be one thousand, eight hundred and twenty saves in one year.
That's what I'm predicting. That's and I hope I'm wrong.
I hope it's over that I'm out. That's what I'm
going with.

Speaker 7 (48:54):
That's sixty a week, about.

Speaker 17 (48:56):
Thirty and change a week, give or take.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Not such a good mask.

Speaker 17 (49:03):
Down the past here for his jokes, folks, not his math.
All right, So let's roll that number. Four thousand, five
hundred forty eight reported saves two thousand, seven hundred and
seventy six children to date, just you know.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
Road Show predicted four nine.

Speaker 17 (49:24):
But let's dive into the highlight of the week, which
is a big line, big one one. My brother was
eating rice and hiccup and it got stuck. He tried
to wash it down with some diet coke, which made
it worse. He ran to the sink and was spitting
up diet coke, trying to breathe but couldn't even cough.
I told him to lay on the ground as I

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grabbed the life back from on top of the refrigerator.
I used it twice and he started to breathe and coughed.
I rolled them on his side as he continued to
spit up the food. This truly saved my brother's life.
I'm so grateful for this product. I was so scared
to think what could happen if I didn't have it.
I met Arthur and his daughter on a Life backed

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commercial that I was doing makeup for last year. I
told him I was to get I wanted to get
one for my two year old son, but hadn't yet.
He gave me an extra one he had with him
that day. I am forever grateful after hearing about how
wonderful of a product this was and how all he
wanted to do is save lives and get this device everywhere.

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I always have it on standby in my kitchen, and
today was the day I needed it. I still can't
believe it happened. Thank you, Arthur. I hope this message
reaches you personally, thank you, thank you, thank you. Words
truly don't explain how grateful I am for your kindness
that day at the bottom good of the right there.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Yeah, you got to see him. A special moment was.

Speaker 6 (51:01):
That a California, California.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
That was the one with Jackie and and me in
the kitchen and my whole family was there. Was amazing
and it was a cool day. But it's the simplicity
of you can change a life, and anyone can't. You
know an active kindness, you know a gift, and you
know it'll come back to Look, I got that beautiful state.

Speaker 17 (51:24):
Thirty eight years old. He's thirty eight years old.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
He still his whole life.

Speaker 5 (51:29):
I have his whole life.

Speaker 17 (51:31):
Well, speaking of life back, it's better to have it
and not need it than need it and not have it.
But like you said, it could be your own or
a stranger or a family member, a friend, could be
anybody really, So get a life back. I love you, guys,
God bless you.

Speaker 5 (51:44):
Good to even.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
Yeah, he's really involved. Next week he is out see
you next week.

Speaker 6 (51:51):
I'm bless ray freeby mister three thousand.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
We call him that because, as you pointed out, he
saved his daughter on a Florida Highway for the three
thousand saves.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
Yeah, but think about it. She comes in and bump
my head like she's a lot.

Speaker 6 (52:03):
Yeah right, he gets the bumper.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
And that's her big moment in the radio Sunshine. It's fellows.
She bumped their head and Ray is always like about
ready to cry. So it really brings it together that,
you know, Dodgs.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
The bullet and I think he was a man of
faith before, but even more so now uh after that
you know, incident, and he talks about it from time
to time, about the bystanders coming like how far life
back has come in notoriety. And as the saves mount
that we close in on five thousand lives, two people
came by the same scene and brought their life back.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
So I think it's cool too that maybe we've turned
a corner that you know, these are people that care
enough to care about themselves their loved ones and are
willing to care and help someone else. We get so
many one.

Speaker 9 (52:49):
The ambulance tech, remember that one the ambulance tech has
taken his wife to the hospital. Oh yeah, the guy's
choking the street and he pulls over with his nine
month pregnant wife who's in labor, pulls out the life
back and saves the guy's life.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
And that both babies were born very you know.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Right after that amazing stuff, you've been listening to The
Man in the Arena with Rick Thatcher, Arthur Lee, Patrick
O'Rourke and of course Roadshow Ryan Warner. A special thanks
to our guest, doctor Gerald Wallace I'm gonna call him
doctor Gerald wils for sharing the powerful stories behind his
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