Guest Life Vac Vice-President of Sales Heidi Felix

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles.
The credit belongs to the man who is actually in
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then the world's success Leaves Clues will explore each chapter
of author's book, Sorry Can't as a Lie, and hear
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to be inspired. Welcome to the Man in the Arena.
I'm Rick Thatcher with the CEO inventor of Life Back,
Arthur Lee, and also Pad O'Rourke, and every weekend you
can listen to the Man in the Arena in Los Angeles,
in Houston, in Orlando in New York, and we're so great.
We do have to make that disclaimer though, that we
tape on a Thursday night and we might not be

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on live with these cities for another few weeks, so we.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Don't start to get it right.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
But they're listening. They had just all those folks out
in those four cities or have just listened to the news,
So it would be possible that we would seem insensitive
if something bad had happened. Anyway, I'm Rick Fatcher.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
What do you think the super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (01:32):
It's a good way to again.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
I'm Rick Thatcher. I'm along with Patrick O'Rourke and founder
and CEO of Life Back Arthur Lee and also joined
tonight for the first time. She's a veteran here, but
first time on the new set of Men in the Arena.
Heidi Felix, Heidi, I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
So excited to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, you got good news, Oh, good news to share.
And Arthur, you know, we've been busy. We've got a
great show coming up. We're going to talk to Jenny
Dean out another her second inspired save, and also later
we're gonna be talking to Larry Zacharyese just an incredible individual,
great history thirty years, over thirty years serving the public

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in a health related fields, and now he's out heading
up all efforts at Stonybrook University, not just the University
of the hospital as well. But before that, Arthur, you
had a busy week.

Speaker 6 (02:22):
Well we always did. Ida y out does me. But
I just had a really cool moment. I was at
Trump's National golf course out there and a guy comes
up to me and he says, hey, yeah, can I
take a picture with you? And I'm like okay, and
then he goes tell me that light back saved his daughter. Well,
and you know, I it's wasn't he didn't report it right,

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And it's just such a moment of like confusion at first, right,
and he gets emotional. I got emotional. Shootes special needs
And it was just a magical night. Him coming up
and telling me that he saved his daughter. Look at
me right in the face. That it really humbles you
to say, you know, I hope there's plenty of saves

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we don't know about. And I think it's a real
gift when someone comes up and and just tells me
that it's another godwin.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
You know, you never know how you impact people.

Speaker 6 (03:13):
And you guys, we should be very grateful for that,
and then to get a save right my face at
that time, it's just another godwin because we keep going.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
So I thought it was cool to share.

Speaker 7 (03:23):
That happened to me last night at the NASA County
Police Academy. So two of the NASA Honey police officers
actually came to me and said, I saved one saved
his daughter and the other one saved somebody else, and
he goes, I didn't know that we could get a replacement.
So I had the Chief of Patrol, Kevin, comes over
to me. He's like, I want to introduce you to
these two guys that I go. Are you going to

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send me a report so that we know you know
what happened. But we actually were at the whole Brook
Pasco doing our roadshow and we saw two people that
actually also were NASA Honey police officers.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
That's great voice.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Oh absolutely, you have a good redon and picks up
the crew too. It's much better looking for.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
We have more faces for radio. And she's got the
dress code.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Too. That's the coolest thing.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
Like you get hit right between the eyes with these
moments of like gratitude, right and especially when they're not reported,
like oh.

Speaker 7 (04:23):
Really, and this guy goes it was the scariest thing
because it was my daughter and here he is the
police officer, so you know, certainly the idea that he
knew how to use it, but he had.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
His own personal one from home.

Speaker 7 (04:35):
But I have to tell you I sold out it
last night because they were all bag gave me for it,
and I got phone calls today all going, I heard
you were at the police academy last night.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
So I said, yes, I.

Speaker 6 (04:43):
Love but I'm glad you get that moment, you get
any of those at Costco when you.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Were unbelievable amount of people at Costco. And I think
I was with Ryan roach o Ryan where in one
of course of two days, five people unreported say you know,
obviously come up and there you know this happened. And
we always think that it's an underestimate. I mean we
have to. Yeah, it's way over thirty five hundred lives.

Speaker 7 (05:10):
One of the leads, especially when I meet us there
in Ocean Side, was at the event last night and
told me about her choking incident.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
I told you about meeting the famous Rick Thatcher. There
was this tall guy.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
He was really funny.

Speaker 7 (05:21):
He stuck the thing on his face.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
I got and that would be rick if it wasn't ourthright,
he taught me that, I know the face sucking. But
without without further ado, I love Heidi to introduce her
friend Jenny Dean, no Pat and.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
I just want to.

Speaker 8 (05:36):
I mean, the more I we're on the show, and
the more we hear about the unreported ones, I think
I bet.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
You this twice is my reporter that's report.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
I think you're right.

Speaker 8 (05:42):
I mean we're you know, we're pumping our chest out
for thirty five hundred, say probably.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Over ten thousand.

Speaker 6 (05:47):
Well you know what's cool though, is like we never
had a way to be out publicly, to kind of
run into people like you have.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
But being a costco, we get a lot. Yeah, and
I obviously as we save more.

Speaker 6 (05:58):
But that's the second time I run into someone that said,
you know, by the way, what unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
By the way, Yeah it makes your day.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yeah, I'll do it.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
People are so grateful. They don't necessarily either know or
care really about the replacement. They're just so happy about it.
And you know, talk about the information, you know, the
other reason to report it, share it with.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
Us that's well, that's data and obviously if they're enthusiastic
and want to help us and share their message.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
And you know, we we built the life back family.

Speaker 6 (06:31):
I mean, we have so many now and it's so cool,
like the Hanes are having another baby and like.

Speaker 8 (06:36):
Yeah, contest family, explain why you have to replace them
to get a free one?

Speaker 6 (06:46):
But only because you could see the radio but it's
just these ridges. But it's really sanitary and the data
and also the joy I mean you see the lulls.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
For those listening, those that watch the show on Facebook
see the hall saves every week and we've seeing it
in the commercials. But those listening on the radio can
just imagine a room filled with over thirty five hundred pictures, families, community.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
There's a lot of messy life acts.

Speaker 6 (07:13):
Yes, yes, well in the beginning we used to get
them back and put them on the wall because they
were like filling up space, right.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
She took up too much room.

Speaker 6 (07:21):
Oh yeah, we didn't need thirty five when we'd at
the coliseum, so it's pre COVID.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
We kind of said, all right, you keep it, chuck it.

Speaker 7 (07:29):
Out, yeah, put in the recycling BN.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
So second second save for miss Jinny Dean.

Speaker 7 (07:35):
Let me I'll give you a little background. So this
lovely woman called me about four years ago. She was
a mother and a grandmother and wanted to purchase for
her family. And her name is Jenny Dean and she
is the president of the Technology Depot and as the
Technology Depot actually works with a lot of security, specifically
law enforcement because of what they do for a living.

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And so she's out in California and she just wanted
to be able to or just in you know, give
them to her family. And then she said, you know what,
I would really like to start an entire safety division.
So she started a safety division for the Technology Depot,
went into all of our clients and told them all
about life back. And she's done such a remarkable job
building relationships.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
With law enforcement.

Speaker 7 (08:18):
And what was wonderful is that she implemented it at
the Almonte PD and we of course saw within three
weeks that there was a save, which was beautiful.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Three weeks from implementation, it's amazing.

Speaker 7 (08:31):
So what was really great, So when she called me
about that one she was in Italy and I was
standing in the Hall of Saves when the whole thing happened.
And we both started crying because I said to her,
I told you were going to save lives, and she said.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
No, it's just the best feeling.

Speaker 7 (08:46):
So Arthur, you got a chance to meet those places.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
I got a message from the chief today. You saw
the commercial chief wording yeah. And I loved all of them.
Roger the chief, I can't remember without mind, but they're
all just great guys. And being out there and going
through the department and seeing the kid put the metal's
Jenny Dean did it you sparkly, spark plug, a lot.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Of energy, you know, and kind And when you meet her,
she does, you know, tech enterprise technologies, cloud connect solutions,
and then she branched into safety and thank goodness too,
saves already.

Speaker 7 (09:21):
And then so the second time, what was so wonderful
she was implementing and she said, I just finished the
training at a Zeus, which is where her company is based,
and she wanted to make sure that it was implemented
in that community because obviously that's where the technology.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
It would be great if we could talk to her tonight.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
Well is she there?

Speaker 2 (09:38):
That was a little disappointed, right that? What Jenny, you
thought it was?

Speaker 4 (09:44):
Jimmy Dean sausage.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, sorry, I.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
Were that person.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
No, We're glad.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
I am Jenny Dean, thank you for having me today.
I'm happy to be here.

Speaker 7 (10:01):
You're amazing, You're absolutely amazing. So, Ginny, you got a
chance to come on out for our three thousand Lives
Save party and you had a chance to see the
Hall of Safe. So you get a chance to see
what you're going to be adding to now with you
know our amazing story. So I want you to kind
of share a little background about you know, why you
got involved with us, and you know from your perspective.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
Okay, So the Life Back product I saw just through
an advertisement I think on Facebook or somewhere. I ended
up buying a lot of them from my family full retail,
and so I loved the product. Decided, you know, I
can I can sell this product. And based on all

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the local police agencies, schools, hospitals, hotels that my companies
provide service to anyway, you guys agreed to allow me
the honor of representing your product. The number one thing
for me is I want that life Back in the

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back of every patrol car in La County. And I'm
passionate about getting that done and specifically in San Gabriel Valley.
So for this particular say for a ZUSA Police department,
I sold them pretty close to the start of the
beginning of this year twenty twenty five. I personally did

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the hands on end user training the demo on how
to take it out of the to go bag, how
to put it together in a hurry, and what to
do because the police officers cannot fumble, you have to
have touched it put it together. This is my opinion

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and why I'm offering all that training as part of
their purchase. So January thirty first is when I finished
my training and I met with all the officers as
they were great guys, they were interested in the product,
and everyone did a good job. So a couple of
days ago, last Friday, on the twenty first, AZUSA police

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officer came to my door here in my building and
I was like, what are you doing here?

Speaker 3 (12:18):
What are you doing here? My life?

Speaker 9 (12:21):
What'd you do?

Speaker 5 (12:23):
So after the hello, how are yous? He stated that
earlier in the week, which was the week of February seventeenth,
I'll keep in mind this has been less than three
weeks that the actual safe took place. He told me
that he had responded to a call and had used
the live facts. I said, well, come in my office.

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I want the details. I have to know. So what
he told me is, while on duty, he was dispatched
to what's called a care home and he was provided
with information that there was a female in her forties
who was not breathing. She was semi conscious and possibly choking.
So upon arrival at the care home, he determined that

(13:07):
the staff had attempted the Heimlich maneuver several times with
zero success. So he had his life back with him.
The Azusa Police Department provided life back, and he said
he moved the victim onto the floor, and he said,

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based on the provided life back training, he knew exactly
what to do, which was place push pull, He told me.
After a few polls, his name is Officer Jacob Bentz.
He extracted several chunks of a peanut butter sandwich after
several polls, and she did return to labored breathing. Then

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he told me he turned on her side to assist
with breathing and ensure that she didn't aspirate any other
body fluids as a result of this choking, he told me.
Then following that the fire department stepped in and used
some sort of a tool to clear the remaining peanut
butter that was in the airway. She was transported to

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a local hospital here. I was so proud of him.
He is a hero. Yes, I mean high fives all
the way through the room.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
You're absolutely You're listenated to Jenny Dean of the Technology
Depot in California, and I want to make mention that
this is going to be going out on the Patriot.
So if that radio station sounds familiar and it reaches
all of La County, if you're not one of the
Suso or Alamanti counties or the police departments, you want

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to reach out to gen Zine. How can people get
in touch with you?

Speaker 5 (14:52):
Genny through my website, the Technologydepot dot com, and then
my numbers eight five, eight four two seven forty four
sixty four direct I always answer my phone. But moving
on about I want to get back to Officer Jacob Fitz.
He is remarkable and so humble. He's fairly new to

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AZUSA p D. As it turns out. I believe he
was sworn in in July, and so he's new. Uh
A single patrol car riding by himself. And when he
told me this, he was not boastful at all. He
was just very matter of fact. But I I was
just so proud of him, amazing. It was happy when

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I got that call.

Speaker 7 (15:40):
She goes, You're never going to believe this, but I
believe it.

Speaker 8 (15:44):
I loved gets award or anything something like that.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
You had no idea. I know that I got to
go that was one of the best.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
Did you know?

Speaker 3 (15:56):
We really? I?

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Oh, they do.

Speaker 7 (15:58):
You know what I loved is that he didn't want
to be without it, right, Jinny, isn't that why.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
He came to thank you? That's right? And so he
did not want to have his patrol car without a
life back. So I reached him my supply and just
handed him a replacement, which he was very thankful. He's
a very kind, humble person, just doing his job. I
made a huge deal out of it because it's incredible

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that could have been my daughter right easily.

Speaker 7 (16:26):
And not only that, you also showed him how to
report the life saved.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
We do, right, I mean, I know.

Speaker 7 (16:31):
It's something that you included your training, but very oftentimes
they just forget right right.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
So I took him right to your website, showed him
where to click, what the form looks like, and so forth.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, well, Ginny, you keep deploying life facts and the
police keep saving folks, and you keep joining us here
on the man and yeah, that was really great.

Speaker 5 (16:56):
I have to say, you guys are also so easy
to do business with, and I appreciate each of you.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
The man in the arena will be back, so join
us on the other side.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
She started to choke on a piece of candy.

Speaker 9 (17:10):
She wasn't breathing.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
Then Ray reached for the life back in it saved her.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
She could have easily died that day. A life back
saved her life.

Speaker 9 (17:18):
What I would say is, don't need a life back
and not have it. Have a life back and hopefully
never need it.

Speaker 6 (17:26):
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as an option when standard protocol fails or is not feasible.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
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Speaker 10 (17:38):
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Speaker 6 (18:08):
Hi, I'm Arthur Lee, inventor, founder and CEO of Life
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Speaker 1 (19:07):
Now on iHeartRadio, more of the Man in the Arena,
the Life Back Radio Show.

Speaker 11 (19:13):
Here again are Arthur Lee and Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
I'm with pad o Ork Arthur Lee, CEO inventor, and
we're joined by mister Laurence Zacharis. Mister Zacharyese. It's been
a long time coming, but we welcome you to the
Man in the Arena. We were sitting in the confines
Heidi and I at the Halisays in Wisconsint. But it
was great to finally connect.

Speaker 12 (19:33):
I only on only videos, you know, always, it's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
You'll get it.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, So your connection to life fact not I know
you had an awareness of it, but is through family
really a couple of degrees of separation. You worked with
Ralph Bonelli.

Speaker 12 (19:49):
That's correct. Yeah, a million years ago. We won't say
how many, but yeah, I had hair on top of this.
Hair was not as great.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah, yeah, so thirty years yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Still steel technically a different capacity.

Speaker 12 (20:02):
But I started in nineteen ninety eight in the NYPD
where Ralph and I worked together.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Woh wow. Ralph's good dude.

Speaker 12 (20:08):
He's a great Guy's funny, and we've stayed you know,
we've stayed in touch for all these years.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
Yeah, you should be on the Wingman book chapter boy,
because yes, that's it. You've been friends that won't Yeah,
definitely know these guys since great school, high school.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
Yeah, a lot less hair, same thing.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
So twenty years is basically twenty years, you know, yeah,
forty No, No, he's free, will you stop?

Speaker 4 (20:31):
He's trying to help us.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
I know it all works. So when did like you
en compass thirty years? Does that include the police work?

Speaker 12 (20:38):
So yeah, that that goes back to when I was
seventeen actually, as there'll be thirty three years in a
couple of days. I started in the Hulbrook Fire Department
actually for that at fourteen, as a junior firefighter. But
that was my first entree into the business. I was
seventeen years old in the firehouse. EMT was my first
OPA along the way. I didn't stay that too long
because the following year, at nineteen, I went to paramedic school.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
And when did you squeeze law school?

Speaker 12 (21:02):
In only about twelve thirteen years ago? So on the
Utubia road less traveled.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
After police Wow.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yeah, cool stuff. Yeah, it's.

Speaker 12 (21:13):
I've been blessed that my personal life and my professional
life have been just really a gift.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
But I grass doesn't grow under my feet too. I
can say that.

Speaker 6 (21:23):
Keep some busy now when you were paramedic in a
EMT to encounter any choking and I get.

Speaker 12 (21:28):
Actually still I still practice as I'm still American after
all these years. Yeah, and one, you know, one of
the it's a great ending to the story, I guess.
But so I was in New York City for a while,
work at Jamaica a hospital. First part of my career
work at Stonybrook in the early nineties before I went
to the police department. Always had a connection to the
university teaching and was always.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
There teachers too, Professor lazy.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Yeah, I very kept that certification to certification.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
It's not something to.

Speaker 12 (21:59):
Get definitely not great. Great beautiful wife and four kids,
a job for each kid. I used to say it
along the way.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah that talks about ice fishing, right, Yes, it's how much. Yeah,
that's the case with the Zachary fishing.

Speaker 12 (22:14):
I'll go now, but I've had several you know, we
call them the business a full farm body airway obstruction
over the years and the story that was just told
peanut butter cheese. You know, the things that are just
whether whether there's you know, a mechanical issue with with
the patient or just volume meat balls, hot dogs, steaks, steaks,
peanut butter, and peanut butter is just persistent.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Think about it.

Speaker 6 (22:38):
So it's hard, especially with the Chess commersions or at
donald Trust to get a good burst totally enough volume.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (22:47):
So over the years, I mean tens of thousands of patients,
but many of you know full farm body airway obstructions
with gill forceps and the whole nine yards where a
civilian is never in a million years would will they
be able to anything?

Speaker 6 (23:00):
Well, that's why I spented it because when I started
researching about it, right, they you know, the abdomald trust
don't always work. And it's nothing about the rescuer. It's
the size of the person in the air and the lungs,
you know, all there's variable factors to generate force.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
From the body. But then the next level up is
paramedic grate.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
I'm not taking the gals and going in my daughter
when my whole being is about to explode. I would
never even if I was trained, I wouldn't feel comfortable
that her life's on the line and I need that skill.
I'd brought you to come, but you're not going to
get there in time. You're in Stonybrook.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
I'm a mass speaker, and their perishable skills to begin with.

Speaker 6 (23:41):
That's the beauty. Hey keep working them and practicing. But
I mean, we all appreciate it. It's just mere humans. But
I need a dumb, dumb proof. I needed something you
could just push and pull and freak out.

Speaker 12 (23:52):
And to just force multipliers of like you know, the
back of a police car, I mean picking it, you
put it in an uber diferent places where.

Speaker 6 (24:01):
Well, now we're just going to see, Like when mister
three thousand comes on and he was in his car
and he pulled over and two other people pulled over
came run out with life bags.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
I mean, that's that's the story.

Speaker 6 (24:11):
Well, you know, your paramedics are like usually spread out
quite a bit, right, there's one per x amount of apartments.
Got your ems and your the BLS trained sank God
thank you for them. But they're kind of trapped too,
you know. And I always felt that having a BLS
option for the those poor EMTs that kind of trapped

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at the point of they don't get that obstruction out,
they got an option and now you saw the Red
Cross though. Yeah, isn't that awesome? Absolutely, I just got
a chill.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
But it's a fire extinguisher for for choking. You don't
want to have to put the fire out.

Speaker 6 (24:49):
There, except it doesn't expire, because that's what inspired Maya.
Did not expire, because I would always go in my
shop my fire every time I finally pulled out my
stupid fire cent the little hour.

Speaker 8 (25:00):
D especially when you need it, a little piece of pants,
a little card with the luggage tag and the wires
supposed to be inspect seventy six.

Speaker 12 (25:08):
Yeah exactly. So what do you what do you do
with stony works? So now I have the best job
in the world. I think it's a sort of.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
I will wear a competition maybe.

Speaker 12 (25:18):
Yeah, you know, it's a collection and a culmination of
all the things that I've done. So I'm the vice
president for Enterprise Risk Management and chief security officer.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
You name it.

Speaker 12 (25:26):
Daunt, Yeah, it's Daunting is a four hundred of the
most awesome people have the best team and can't anyone else.

Speaker 6 (25:33):
Stnerbrook says, we have the best team. This is a
statute of limitations, right because I went.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
To Yeah you know he's an alumni.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Well I will talk to you about that.

Speaker 6 (25:41):
Yeah, the rest, But I gotta tell you a quick
forty story.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
But we went there one night. We snuck up to
the top of the medical building.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
Legend, yes, when he wasn't at a security statute of
limitations and uh, we were all laying my watching the stars.
It was the first time I saw a satellite. So
I always remember that night that and that's a great
you know.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
It's a great It is the highest place.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Was it a satellite?

Speaker 6 (26:10):
Yeah, it was the first time I saw a satellite
because back then now.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
You see many But about the band, okay that we.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Weren't that bold. Secondly, what is a sea wolf?

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yeah? No, one though, well you know what's the answer,
But what is it? I have no idea, what's the answer.
What is it? I'm a sea wolf? What's the sea wolf?

Speaker 4 (26:29):
Okay? Oh that's fine, definitely.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
For sure. Oh no, my files.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
To goes to Michigan State. You say go green, you
have to say go white back.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
That's that.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
But what's the sea wolf? A sea wolf?

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Okay, okay, I am not of it. Has anyone to
ask you?

Speaker 4 (26:49):
An eleven ninety s A t I.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Was like dogs back then. We didn't have anything went well.
You were the Patriots, Patriots, Patriots, yes three. It was
a much different work. There was a field that was
where the football game was.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
It's a nice turf.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah, having to a game. We're gonna vi p Yeah,
like to the roof of the hospital. Yeah, sounds good.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
I've actually been up there myself. The antenna is up there?

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Did you really?

Speaker 4 (27:18):
And there was a who would.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Think to be a Stony Brook Hospital roof connection.

Speaker 8 (27:22):
But there was a You guys had a genius working
for you. He lived in Pennsylvania and he come up
for the week. He knew every frequency of every antenna
on the rooftop, from hospital to carriers. Yeah, and like
Mike something I forget. He has to be retired.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Now.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
This was fifteen years ago.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
We're gonna hear from him tonight. He's watching this. He's
gonna get he's a.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
So when did you hear going back? Besides the Benelli connection,
when did you hear about or become aware of life fact?

Speaker 3 (27:51):
It's a great question. It's definitely a few years back.

Speaker 12 (27:54):
And you know, the whether it's the on social media
or or the commercials that you know that you have
out there.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
I mean, that's uh. And the one that was all
might question.

Speaker 12 (28:07):
You said it it's not not a forum on the
people it is it is you know, we'll say dummy proof.

Speaker 6 (28:12):
But right, that was just full and move and now
Ray will give us an update. But when you see
the whole saves and you see three thousand, six hundred
plus lives, So sitting on the wall, like what happened
was the numbers, like you know, we save zero, the
first year zero, the second year six, the third year

(28:32):
thirteen fifty three. You know these are years, right, it's
a decade, but it became a number. It's three thousands
for that and people lose touch with the fact that
that's so many families, fathers, mothers, grandparents, friends, And when
you see the wall, it kind of brings it back.

Speaker 12 (28:50):
Well, he touched on it before. That's just what you know, right,
and it's probably double a triples.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
The unknown ye got to be underreported, got to be
just from the just from the folks that have approached
Arthur approached us that two.

Speaker 8 (29:04):
People running out of a car on the highway with
the car, I'm sure they've heard about someone who we.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
Have the first time in history we have a chance
to virtually eliminate a leading close action of that right
if they we get them out there, and because they're
expensive and they last forever over time, we can have
a segment that comes on the nightly news because someone choked.
Wouldn't that be outrageous that that's the news. So, by

(29:31):
the way, the number of people are going to die.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
The number we're chasing is five thousand people.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
And that's what they know of, right, you guess the feeling.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I guess with COVID, everything you know put as natural causes.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
One day, it's a risk assessment. You know.

Speaker 6 (29:50):
We just met with a large insurance company. And ever
since the Red Cross statement came out. The Red Cross
statement has a lot of impact because they included when
can't be done right and that kind of pushed it
into the world of ady eight, people in wheelchairs, people
with medical braces, even the scoliosis brace. And I think
it's a godmic and sense it raise awareness, right because

(30:13):
everyone's been in there. You look at the posts, you
watch Miss Doubt Fire, Wolf of Wall Street and God,
that was great. Right, It's a way to educate the public.
But it's never been the problem has always been those
people with disabilities have so many variations anyway, it's difficult
to get your arms around it, and if you can,

(30:33):
they may have something that you don't want to do it, right.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
So I think that was a huge step of.

Speaker 6 (30:39):
Awareness, right, But in retrospect too, it kind of increases
a liability system.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Do you think that's true?

Speaker 12 (30:48):
So to the extent that you can, you try to
play through the law of averages, right, So the overwhelming
majority you're carving out people that will benefit, right, it
is a risk cursus reward, right, So to make it
where the the the lay person special or even the
train provider.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Right. So so that we talk about police officers.

Speaker 12 (31:06):
If a police officer, if they come into but e
MT in the police academy, that's sort of on the
higher end, right to the extent they can keep that
if they get basic first aid or certify the first responder.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
That probably the national average.

Speaker 12 (31:17):
So to have someone who can simply just do a
quick assessment and and not necessarily have to do all
this irumation in the head. I think you want up
on the better side with with the information that's going
to come out of it. I do think though, that
you'll have you'll have questions, and I'll take my lawyer hat.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
On or put it off.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
I forgot an attorney.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Well that's you know, So.

Speaker 12 (31:35):
What did Shakespeare say? You know, first kill all the lawyers, right,
that's for number one. I think we have all the hats,
so we will have to kill you.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
No, well, please please don't safe here?

Speaker 12 (31:43):
Yeah, put keep a paramedic hat on for this one.
Everyone loves yeah, no, yeah, the don't necessarily love cops.
But let's be honest, for the most part, you're safe
with that. So it'll be interesting to see how how
the impact plays out.

Speaker 6 (31:55):
Well, the good two good things regardless, and it's gonna happen,
but hopefully it's because of saves. You know what else
I noticed And you would know because you've been in
these situations numerous times, people, whether it's police or lay people,
have said they're more calm, right, And I think there's
almost a we almost scared two beads. Seconds count right,

(32:15):
it's really minutes count right. Breathe, get your stuff together
and go take on this situation. And numerous parents have said,
you know, they were getting freaking out and then they said,
oh my god, there is something I could do. Hold on, yep,
go get it, relax, get you know, and especially both times,
you know, the one will lay the child down and
all the one will get it.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
But it's cool to watch the unanticipated benefit, right. Yeah.

Speaker 12 (32:41):
If you think about the average person who takes a
CPR class because they're having a kid or baby.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Size whatever, you do it once.

Speaker 12 (32:47):
They may never ever use those skills ever, No, but
they remember ABC. But if you have, you're now in
the situation and you know, a you can't get.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Past a right vapor lock.

Speaker 12 (32:57):
Yeah, so that's really the true benefit there is that
you remove move any thought, move.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
The human component. You just just follow the problem.

Speaker 6 (33:05):
I think too that this is all kind of sociological
depth the mystery. But I love talking to people who
have been in the field and understand it because they've
faced it. The hilight doesn't exist, right, you can't hold it.
So I took the course she was you know, I
never took it again.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
I mean, she was seven when I came up with this.

Speaker 6 (33:22):
But it's kind of out there. It doesn't make it present.
Having something physical makes you think about it more, makes
you be more prepared in the sense of if something happens,
I know that that's there now. Of course, we want
everyone to get trained, get Red Cross train, go out there.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
It's a good thing. And then there's other components to it.

Speaker 6 (33:44):
It will help your mental makeup that you feel more
comfortable and competent. But I did see that having a
physical object has brought more awareness to it, of the
frequency of it, and has taken some panic out.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
And again, I perishable skill, perishable skill, persiable skill. You
if you.

Speaker 12 (34:03):
Practice it once on a mannequin in the library or
in your your local high school, and you never ever
do it until you need to, there's too much time
to waste where you.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
That's why I'm a practice man.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
So cool talking to you because all these things that
I kind of was guessing on, I.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Guess, Yeah, I guess I did. Hey, I guess I did.

Speaker 13 (34:20):
Stonybrook Education, that's what it is set.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Listening to Laurence Zacheries. He's the vice president Prize Risk
Management and the chief Security Officer at Stonybrook University, but
it could be any university around the country, but he's
ours more with Larry Zacharis after this message, I'm.

Speaker 6 (34:43):
Sorry to bother you, but I have thirty seconds to
give you a very important message.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
My name is Arthur Lee.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
I'm the CEO inventor of life Back, a simple choking
rescue device that could save a life in a choking emergency.
We've saved over three thousand lives now, but we're not
there five thousand people you choke to death, one child
every five days. Please consider protecting your family in a
choking emergency with life back.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Go to lifefac dot net today. Thank you for your time.

Speaker 10 (35:11):
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in choking rescue. Recently, the American Red Cross updated its
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not be feasible or fail. LIFEAC is there when seconds

(35:32):
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Speaker 6 (35:42):
Hi, I'm Arthur, the inventor founder and CEO of Life
AAC and a proud fall them. Did you know choking
is the fourth leading cause of accidental death. Tragically, one
child dies every five days. Now, imagine your child, your spouse,
or someone you love choking. You have only seconds act.
It's a situation the one wants to face, but it

(36:02):
can happen to anyone. That's why I created Life back
Light Back is a life saving airway clearance device that's
already saved over three thousand lines. It's easy to use,
non invasive, and gives you the power to act when
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(36:22):
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Speaker 1 (36:40):
Now on iHeartRadio, more of the Man in the Arena
the Life Back Radio Show.

Speaker 11 (36:46):
Here again are Arthur Lee and Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
You've been blessed with the presence of Larry Zacharis, chief
security Officer at storybog University. I got a little caught
up there.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
It's five mazingo.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Come back right, Like he could come on a different pece.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
He might be what we call a regular. I know
it's a little bit of away game.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
He was saying off how much he likes it.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
It's not yeah, it's not that. It's not that much
a way.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
It's all right, let's have anytime anytime. But before the break,
we were talking about knowledge. We were talking about you know,
life back and the risks associated with it. When does
it come into play, Arthur, you were talking about the
training for Heimlich But let's talk about the failure doesn't
always work.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
Well that it's just statistics. I mean, you know it's
gonna it depending on who's doing. If you fully trained,
you got about eighty percent chances gonna work. Lay people
in the field or as you said, and that have
not practiced, that aren't doing it perfectly.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Drops. But it's it's nothing against him. We should get trained.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
But the bottom line is, and here's where the Red
Cross statement is so important. In my opinion, I've been
in a lot of facilities MS parkins and cerebral poles,
A numerous thats wheelchairs, and there is very little standard
to how you rescue a person in the wheelchair and
it can be dangerous. You know, Steve why cannot be

(38:10):
given the Heimlich or the CPR. His body cannot take
that force. So I think with the statement from the
Red Cross of when it fails or cannot be done,
it's not feasible, it's exactly how the Red Cross rights
that we have a moment where everyone now is chance. Right,
So in our schools are special needs places where particularly

(38:31):
where there's a good chance, right. You know, we're people
and we want to do it's right. Everywhere would be good,
but we're really faced with it. And why I love
the police have it. You know, a bunch of their
saves have been in an elder care environment where the
persons in a wheelchair, you know, And I think.

Speaker 12 (38:48):
We're blessed that they included that the word feasible. You
know again a lawyer shows that word. Oh yeah, right, no,
But I think I think it gives the most latitude
without boxing either the Right Cross on their statement, the
device or the eventual user of it.

Speaker 6 (39:04):
I think it's because too, that's always been the problem
with with the protocol for persons in that capacity would
have to be like the phone book, you know. So
I think they did a good lawyer and ethical job
of using that word because it could be someone opens,
it could be someone pregnant, you know, it could be
someone big and the rescue was small.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
You looked sorry. I just remember trying to pretend. I'm
like you.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
You were just trying to hug.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
I like hugging. But that is true.

Speaker 6 (39:36):
And but it's a great word because it does jar
the mind.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
So we're gonna like work on it like we are
with Suffer County PD. We're in every national county police car.
We need to get there, you know, pushing it Suffer
County PD. I see Hidi nodding.

Speaker 6 (39:52):
Well, the police, you know, they get there first, and
they also have to face the devastation.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Avoid them, right, Well, they don't have something.

Speaker 6 (40:01):
They got to wait for the bus, right and if
it don't come in three minutes.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Ordinarily without a life back there.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
At officer and a firefighter, paramedic, busy man you like
a Swiss army night, I would say mcgiver.

Speaker 13 (40:17):
But yeah, but there's a lot of gray up here,
so I could say that people watching them by.

Speaker 6 (40:22):
I said to my niece and that you want to
like Rambo, And I'm like, you don't know Rambo.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
You're probably handy around the house to give him a toothback.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
It's all over.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
I was reading your bio and I wanted to talk
to you about long. Yeah, your preparedness, and you teach
preparedness and you successfully covered at a very critical time
the COVID nineteen pandemic at a university. Yeah, what was that?

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Like?

Speaker 12 (40:48):
I totally changed my my professional career.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
I the trajectory of it, for sure.

Speaker 12 (40:53):
I don't think i'd have the job I have right
now if we didn't have the successes that we did.
Certainly changed the industry emergency management and preparedness and opened
up people's eyes to crisis leadership. And we had a
great team, great leadership team at the time, and I
was kind of thrust into the position because of my
former role as the emergency management guy. I had some

(41:14):
experience with swine flu from when I first got there
in two thousand and nine, so we sort of had
some plans we had to pretty quickly throw out. But
we went from getting briefings every day from you know,
the government like everybody else and watching to we built
a thousand bedfield hospital on our campus that was never
used but in the middle of the campus ultimately sturned

(41:34):
up the first Suffolk County COVID testing site. We had
to drive through testing site and then became the premier
i would say vaccination site. Storybrog University and Starybrock Medicine,
all of our partners with the state and others. We
wound up delivering more than six hundred and fifty thousand
vaccines to suffer Coounty.

Speaker 6 (41:50):
And the part of that was true mission sent to
the right. It was a mission, Like I always say,
we don't have a job, we have a mission. Our
missions and choking You had a crunch phase that you
had a on the moon in two week mission.

Speaker 12 (42:02):
While we had you know, hospital was just was you know,
obviously providing care to you know, to to Sofa County,
fifty thousand people normally on our campus. So we had
students abroad, we brought them back, then we sent them home.
It was a very, very trying time. It's the most
challenging of my career, but the most rewarding.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
My sister graduated Stonybrook, is that right, Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Okay, my son as well. He's a doctor of Physical Therapy.
Stony Brook not a great My kids couldn't get into Stonybrook.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Yeah, well, trust got it was it was thirteenth grade.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
So what did you get? What did Stonybrook and you,
Larry Zachary's get right that and served as the model
that was so different from the folks that weren't getting
it right.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (42:44):
I think we knew enough to know that while the
world was proverbially shutting down everywhere that we we have
our research could not stop Stonybrook medicine could not shut
the doors and go out of business. And Stonybrook plays
a crucial role for the economy. There was all these
things that we we don't have the ability to go
out of business. Business continuity is a big part of
our job then and now. So we took some risks,

(43:05):
for sure that were calculated risks, and we anticipated things
and we had we had a great president at the
time who unfortunately left us to go to.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Yale to be the president.

Speaker 12 (43:14):
Good but we have a new president coming from from Princeton,
so we're excited about that.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (43:19):
Stonnybrook is that it's the number one public research university
in New York State, where the flagship don't tell Buffalo
two flagships, but where the flagship rivalry? Again, it's not
We don't just pull the shade down and say out
of business, you know, come back. In two and a
half years, we powered through and and I think we
became a model for a lot of a lot of places.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
That's fantastic. Larry Zacharys, Vice President Enterprise Risk Management, the
chief security officer at Sonybrook University, we thank you so
much for coming in and thanks for have you promise
a regularly.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
I'll come back whenever I'm invited. A lot of time.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
With mister three K.

Speaker 14 (43:57):
I was in the living room when I heard my son,
who was two at the time. I looked over and
myself him grabbing for his face. That's through I grab
a life back. I put the mask on his face
and place push, pull the life back, dislodge the ice
cube from his airway. When he started crying, the most
amazing sound I've.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Ever heard in my entire life.

Speaker 14 (44:20):
Please protect your family, get.

Speaker 5 (44:22):
A life back.

Speaker 10 (44:23):
LIFEAC is proud to be at the forefront of innovation
in choking rescue. Recently, the American Red Cross updated its
guidelines to include anti choking devices as an option for
choking emergencies. This life saving update recognizes the importance of
tools like LIFEAC designed to help when traditional methods may
not be feasible or fail. LIFEAC is there when seconds

(44:44):
matter most. Join the thousands of families who trust life
back LIFEAC can make the difference between life and loss.
Go to lifeac dot com to get yours today.

Speaker 6 (44:54):
Hi, I'm Martha, the inventor, founder and CEO of LIFEAC
and a proud father. Did you know chi is the
fourth leading cause of accidental death Tragically, one child dies
every five days.

Speaker 9 (45:06):
Now.

Speaker 6 (45:06):
Imagine your child, your spouse, or someone you love choking.
You have only seconds to act. It's a situation no
one wants to face, but it can happen to anyone.
That's why I created life back. Light back is a
life saving airway clearance device that's already saved over three
thousand lives. It's easy to use, non invasive, and gives
you the power to act.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
When every second counts. Don't wait until it's too late.

Speaker 6 (45:31):
Visit lifefac dot net today and use promo code life
to save twenty percent on your life back home kit.
That's lifefact dot net promo code life Join thousands of
families who own life back. Life Back can make the
difference between life and loss. Go to lifeback dot net
and get yours today.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Now on iHeartRadio, more of the Man in the Arena,
the Life Back Radio Show.

Speaker 11 (45:58):
Here again are Arthur and Rick Thatcher with padd O'Rourke.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
And how do you feelix. But on the Man in
the Rita, we always check in with the Life Back
saves for the week, the totals, he gives it to us.
All okay, hard to everybody, rape creeby.

Speaker 9 (46:13):
Men and women of the arena. Good evening, everyone has
everyone doing tonight?

Speaker 3 (46:18):
It was your birthday yesterday.

Speaker 9 (46:19):
Yes, my birthday was yesterday, Thank you, thank you, the
big Yes, there was a big one, the Big five zero.
I'm officially now I'm not old yet.

Speaker 5 (46:31):
We're getting old, so we're walder than you.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
You got time.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
I'm thirty nine.

Speaker 9 (46:39):
Oh. For tonight's numbers, two thousand, two hundred and fifty
five children saved to date, we are exactly one hundred
and thirty days from number three thousand saves, and we
have six hundred and five saves in one hundred and
thirty days.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Talk to me about that three thousand saves.

Speaker 9 (46:58):
That was a big one. Was a big one. That
was my little girl, Maya, who was choking on a
piece of hard candy while driving home from a birthday party. Obviously,
my wife did her best to get the candy out
of her throat while driving. Needless to say, we did
have to pull over. We tried the back compressions four
times that were unsuccessful. Thank god, we and other drivers

(47:21):
had a life back. We use the LFE back on
my daughter first time, pulled the candy right out, and
God blessed us with pedestrians who also stopped to assist, well,
holding their life back exactly that.

Speaker 5 (47:36):
Oh my gosh, I love that.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Amazing.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
You join me week and you dazzle us with stats
and updates and you and Donna Yisley gets to we.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Count on him, Yes, find out what's going on.

Speaker 9 (47:48):
This week alone? Twenty six saves just this week.

Speaker 6 (47:52):
Yeah, we had a bunch of internashal what we have
three Canadas yesterday.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Oh that's averaging like ninety a month since three thousand.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 9 (48:05):
Yeah, pick up amazing amazing SATs.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
No sea wolf and no calculator.

Speaker 9 (48:12):
I'm a sea wolf.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
Yeah, carry the.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Four let's have advocate in front of you.

Speaker 8 (48:16):
One hundred and thirty days. That's four months and ten days, right.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
And I have the highlight of the week.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Yeah, let's hear it. I love this.

Speaker 9 (48:24):
It's a good one. It actually came in today. It's
a fifteen month old little boy in Minnesota who choked
on cereal and milk. Here's some notes from the parents.
We were eating cereal and he started throwing a tantrum
with a mouthful of food. He inhaled the food that
was in his mouth. At that point, he was trying
to gasp per air. We tried hitting his back while

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putting him upside down. All I could see was milk
foaming in the back of his throat. My husband put
him on his back and I used the life Act
with one pump. It was out and he could breathe again.
I truly think if we wouldn't have had the life back,
this could have been much worse.

Speaker 6 (49:06):
You know, And those are so natural because you know,
they just come in. Yeah, and when you hear something
like that, you know, you're like rights.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
You put yourself in their shoes with that panic and
that relief.

Speaker 6 (49:19):
Well, especially when they do and they give you a
little bit of insight, and then he started phoning up,
and then we laid him down. And now their head
is starting to go, Oh my god, imagine that happened.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
You picture your child like you did in.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
The fifteen month old man.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Fifteen months.

Speaker 9 (49:34):
And I can tell you even when I tell my
story to whoever will listen, uh, even today, I mean,
this happened back on October twentieth, that of last year,
so again fairly recent. But even as I tell my story,
it's difficult not to get choked up.

Speaker 6 (49:50):
Tim weiss Man, Tim Wise, you know war hero emt.
Every time he tells it.

Speaker 8 (49:56):
He gets yeah yeah, yeah, yeah guy too, like scary guy.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Yeah, I wouldn't miss.

Speaker 8 (50:02):
Any But anyway, I did some more numbers, more numbers.
July fourth will be the under over date for four thousand.

Speaker 11 (50:09):
Nice way too.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
All right, missed? We keep going this missed the countdown.
That's your new job.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
I'm saying it's under I'm saying it's before July.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Yeah, like that would be.

Speaker 9 (50:18):
I'm gonna say it's before July fourth.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Probably, all right, folks.

Speaker 9 (50:22):
Before I sign out here, I'm gonna go ahead and
give my wisdom here life back, have it don't need it,
don't need it and not have it. The life you
could save could be your own. Thanks folks, God blast.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Okay everybody, Ray preb what a great show. Heidi joined
us for the first time.

Speaker 6 (50:40):
Yeah, you on our new show.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Absolutely, I feel yes beginning.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Oh yeah, she's in there.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Yes, how many? How many years?

Speaker 7 (50:52):
So five years, a couple of years for free.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Yeah, there were some volunteer hours in there.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
Hey, you could start the Weeds show, women in the Arena.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Oh yeah, Arthur, you had a busy week.

Speaker 6 (51:05):
Well we always did idy yuh does me? But I
just had a really cool moment. I was at Trump's
National golf course out there and a guy comes up
to me and he says, hey, yeah, I take a
picture with you, and I'm like okay, and then he
goes tell me that light back saved his daughter. Well,
and you know, I it's wasn't he didn't report it right,

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And it's just such a moment of like confusion at first, right,
and he gets emotional. I got emotional. Shootes special needs.
And it was just a magical night. Him coming up
and telling me that he saved his daughter look at
me right in the face, that it really humbles you
to say, you know, I hope there's plenty of says

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we don't know about. And I think it's a real
gift when someone comes up and and just tells me
that it's another godwin. You know, you never know how
you impact people and you we should be very grateful
for that. And then to get a s right my
face at that time, it's just another godway because we
keep going. So I thought it was cool to share.

Speaker 7 (52:06):
That happened to me last night at the NASA County
Police Academy.

Speaker 5 (52:10):
So two of the NASA Honey.

Speaker 7 (52:11):
Police officers actually came to me and said, I saved
one saved his daughter and the other one saved somebody else,
and he goes, I didn't know that we could get
a replacement. So I had the Chief of Patrol, Kevin,
comes over to me. He's like, I want to introduce
you to these two guys that I go. Are you
going to send me a report so that we know
you know what happened. But we actually were at the
whole Brook Pasco doing our road show and we saw

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two people that actually also were NASA Honey police officers.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Gratitude, right, and especially when they're not reported like, oh.

Speaker 7 (52:43):
Really, and this guy goes it was the scariest thing
because it was my daughter and here he is the
police officer, so you know, certainly the idea that he
knew how to use it, but he had his own
personal one from home. But I have to tell you
I sold on it last night because they were all
begging me for it. And I got phone calls today
all going, I heard you were at the police academy
last night.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
So I said, yes, I.

Speaker 6 (53:03):
Love always, but I'm glad you get that moment, you
get any of those at Costco.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
When you were there.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Unbelievable amount of people at Costco. And I think I
was with Ryan roach Ow Ryan where in one course
of two days, five people unreported saves you know, obviously
come up, and we always think that it's an underestimate.
I mean we have to. Yeah, it's way over thirty
five hundred lives. We had Larry Zacharisso tonight great. We

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heard from Jenny Dean and it's just so great to
connect with men and women in the arena from across
this great country of ours. So we'll be back next week.
I'm Rick, I'm with Arthur Lee CEO and Venor of
Life bac on the man in the arena.

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