Guest Ray Prevee A.K.A. Mr. 3000

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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I'm Rick Thatcher with the CEO inventor of Life Back,
Arthur Lae.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, you know what we've talked about the last couple
of weeks, and we'll touch on it tonight, which is
our trip and our ventures down to Washington, which is ongoing.
But we'll talk about that. But I have a little
surprise for you, Arthur. No, yeah, I'm gonna surprise you
because ordinarily you're used to at the end of the show,
we go to Ray Preby and he cleans it up,
love it, he takes us home. But tonight, in the

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interest of just a big surprise for you, Ray Preby
mister three thousand, and we're going to explain why he's
called mister three thousand, because if you're new to the show,
it's quite a story. It is. Indeed, no further ado,
mister Ray Preby, mister three thousand.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
Hey, good afternoon, everybody, Come chea live from Fort Myers, Florida.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
How's how's the men in the arena today?

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Oh man, great? Right, It's nice to have you on
in the first because that will know all the stats.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
A little different. So I'm learning. We learned something new
every day. So Cape Coral is the home of the
previous workplace which you're calling in from now is in
Fort Myers, pretty close.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
It's quite about town.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well you sound great, You sound great right now we.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
Call I been told I have a great voice. It's
better than the face on TV. I can tell you
that face.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well, listen, we were introduced to you with the news
report of you when you saved your precious daughter Maya
on the side of a Florida highway and it was
the three thousand save, which is why we call you
mister three K. We call her Princess three K. And
we're blessed every week when you come and you give
us all the updates for the statistics about life acting.

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You know, you there obviously for three thousand and you've
been with us ever since, and you just saw us
recently shatter through four thousand lives save worldwide. And those
we should point out are just those that are reported, just.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
Reported, right, there just reported.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
It's funny, you know, for the people listening, they're probably
wondering how long ago was that? So when three thousand,
my little miss three thousand came about, that was October twentieth,
twenty twenty four, two hundred and thirty five days ago.
And since then, we've had the blessing to save one thousand,
one hundred and seventy two people crazy given us a

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grand total of four thousand, one hundred and seventy two
saves to date reported saves to date two thousand, five
hundred and fifty three children.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Dude, we got it. We gotta start something. We got
to start a five thousand. Now, Ray probably has a
good chance, oh kissing it. Yeah, Like, if you look
at this man, we're and two pools one, five thousand
and one, we're two hundred and twenty five days. It's amazing.
And you know it's also amazing that you were three
thousand because you care so much and God guy, and

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you do this to help and try and save more.
So the world is opening up. We're starting to really
win this battle. But we should we'll talk about it,
but we should have a five thousand and what number
that Ray says, when it's three sixty five from saving
his daughter, ooh, what's.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
The number one year out from Ray previous saving his
daughter Maya?

Speaker 3 (04:28):
And also when winner gets to go to Ray's house
and take all history and okay, that's good to.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Take all of raised stuff. That is a bold That
is a contest. I don't think anyone in the history
of radio has ever had such a bold context. K Yeah, right,
were kids?

Speaker 5 (04:47):
All?

Speaker 6 (04:48):
Right?

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Ray, give us the scoop.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
I have a great highlight for you, guys.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Bring it on.

Speaker 7 (04:52):
On June, a two year old boy from Indiana choked
on a glass marble life that was used twice in
Successfu dislodged the object. Here is part of the mom's story.
We have a marble track toy that all four kids
were playing with upstairs while my husband and I were
sitting at the kitchen table. Suddenly, our ten year old

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screamed for us. I couldn't even tell you what exactly
he said, but without thinking, I just grabbed my life
back and up the stairs I went. It was really
terrifying experience, and unfortunately all three other boys were watching
this play out. I really thought I was going to
watch him die. But after using the device several times

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with back blows in between, the marble came out. Once
they came out, he cried. The next morning, I messaged
some family and friends to let them know what had
happened and give them the link to the device and
encourage them to purchase it if they hadn't already done
right there, Focus is an excellent example of a two
year old that would have been lost if it wasn't

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for life back Ray.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
When you read that, you kind of relive yours? Does
it happen in your being?

Speaker 7 (06:03):
Every sing story that I read, it brings back the
exact moment that it happened for me while while leaving
a birthday party driving home, hearing those dreaded words they're
not breathing, She's not breathing, you know. And it's literally
every story I.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Read, well you could relate, you know, like the depth
of the feeling that they were feeling, you know. And
I think that's the blessing that we have. You do this,
because there's certainly no way to say, you know, you
don't know what you're talking about, You don't you know,
And that's why you're so passionate, and we appreciate it
and that that is some story marble. Man, that's heavy.

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So if it's it's going to take something to get
it out. Yeah, and we.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Talk we talk often about the amount of obstructions and
with kids, it's not always food. Anything that you can
imagine lying around the house that can block the airway.
Life Act has removed over. Yeah, it's really amazing for me.
Everyone's a little different. But it's so great Ray that
you join us every week and get beyond the numbers,

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because we can talk about dates and numbers, but until
you hear the details and the family and the.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Community who's been there, He's he's willing to share this
and and go through it, and it's really impactful and
it saves lives, right, saved lives absolutely.

Speaker 8 (07:25):
And you know, with all the fake products out there,
I will say, as a parent who had to use
the device in the heat of the moment, in the situation,
you have to rely on quality, you have to rely
on craftsmanship, and Arthur, you have developed the best form
of the device. You know, when when a parent is

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in the heat of the moment, they're going to use
unnecessary force, They're going to you know, it's it's chaos.

Speaker 7 (07:51):
It's so much stuff happening at one time. If any
of those parts failed during the use of the equipment,
it's deadly, absolutely calls death.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
You're listening to mister three thousand. His real name is
Ray Preevy, and he you know, I want to get
back to something you just mentioned. We're talking about Life Act.
We're on the man in the arena, but in the
arena you met. You made a little comment back then
when when we talk about the design of Life BacT,
the simplicity, uh, the engineering, you said that was my dad.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Did I just think that because that's he worked on
the space program, and you know, I grew up with
him saying, you know, it's life and death when you
mean the man's on the moon. He can't go out
and get a spare. So his whole being was reliability
and that everything had to work, it had to work.
And just a little kid, that was instilled in me.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, you were about five, right when I was.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
It was sixty four land so yeah, well five when
they first landed. Yeah, right, But I remember sitting in
front of the TV, and you know, when you're five,
your father did it. It was no one else was involved. Dat.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, he went to work and he put the man
on the moon, and he virtually did. He was on
the team.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Of course he did everything.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
And we talk about teams, and he did everything.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yes, pretty much.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
It's pretty pretty amazing. So you, I'm not gonna say channel,
but you're a product of your upbringing mom, dad, and
when you you talk about when you developed the device
had to work, but also you know you did that
or a need to protect your daughter? What's that? Do
we have to let him go?

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Right? I'm here, you give it?

Speaker 2 (09:34):
I love, I love, Oh gosh, right, I apologize. Let's
hear your catchphrase, which is sweeping the nation.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
Folks, life back.

Speaker 7 (09:42):
Far better to have it and never need it than
need it and not have it.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
The life, you could say, could be your own. God
bless God.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Bless you, buddy, and thank you as always for being
the man missed the three thousand and uh. I will
get in touch when it come down and hopefully we
can get together.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Sounds good, good stuff, right, great stuff.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Ray.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
So for everyone listening, whether you're in California, Texas, Orlando,
or we'll call it Florida because I was just going
with States and New York, you're listening to the gentleman,
mister three thousand, Ray Preby, and we thank you so
much as always Ray for joining us on the show.
Is he is beyond cool.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Beautiful family. We were blessed that he was the three thousands.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
We know who four thousand is. I wonder who five
thousand is.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Going to be. Well, that's why I was kind of thinking,
and now that we're all over the place, we should
start that contest. You know, it's cool to look forward
like you're a look key. You look forward to Christmas.
I look forward to five thousand saves, and we neat
to get people to make their prediction, and you know,
we'll give something away, and you like to give stuff
a lo I do. I am historic with that he

(10:50):
give her.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Now, I think about the team, the small passionate team
that follows your lead when you develop this device. I
was about to get on before we say goodbye to Ray,
so I'll get back to who on the team is
going to be charged with this. I'm just thinking who
would be charged with the contests? Because Donna Eisley does
such a great job, and she listens to every show
and she's the keeper of all the data and the safs.

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She has an inside track. She has an algorithm for
figuring out, but she would be more than gracious enough
to run.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
The contest an inside track place, Laura.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
I'm not sure. We'll have to ask Donna. So here's
the thing when we go back to the story of
you know, you give credit to dad, but the passion
and the reasoning behind the thought and the drive to
produce life Act was to protect your daughter, who's seven
at the time, is kind of growing up.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Well, you know, the accident, my accident really is deep
in anyone that's had a horrible tragedy, you know, having
your best friend who's young one second and gone the next.
You don't want anyone to feel that. Now. I didn't
get to that stage my brain. I knew that feeling
from the accident from my daughter. So that's it. I

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got a savor. That's it. You know who knew? I didn't.
I thought that the procedures work, the policy right behind
like the back both kids already, you know, it says
right there until the object comes out.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Right and just for a refresher Arthur Lee visiting a
dear friend in the hospital because that's what friends do.
And you learn of a seven year old dies in
a hospital setting, with all of the procedures, all of
the technology, but it happens. Yeah, that's why five thousand
people year die of accidental choking, fourth leading cause of
accidental death. And thanks to Arthur Lee and the Life Act,

(12:39):
it does not need to happen. I think, for the
first time in history, an accidental cause of death is
going to be eliminated.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Well, that's how I get chills about the Texas situation.
You know, thirteen years but the light is at the
end of the tunnel, and it really starts to bring
to light the significance what we've done and what we're doing. Right.
I started to thirteen years ago. Over one hundred kids
have choked to death in school since I started. Right,
and we were on the verge a getting a mandate

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in Texas and I read Dad, and I was excited.
And the next day there was a lawsuit and the
death in Illinois and it kind of I know, it's God,
put me in and you got more work to do, right,
And that's fine, that's what he needs to do. But
the reality is where the beginning of the end, there's

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going to come a time and the quicker people realize
how dangerous. It is in our school where they're eating
quick and I have little windpipes and making each other laugh.
It never happens again. How amazing with that one hundred
kids since I started. Yeah, and it's kind of a
uh the little for.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Those keeping score, that's the first of the night, is it?

Speaker 3 (13:51):
I think? So that's very useful though it is because
it is a lot.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Of does it cuts through, it explains it.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
I think our generation in particular gets it.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Our country has got a large.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
I got a lot of dug going on, but the
ability for it to not exist is at hand.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Right, Let's talk a little bit about now what's the
next step in terms of.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Well, it's a business. It's a big guy. When you
survive the problem. When you I survived two of my friends,
didn't you were here to watch that devastation. You see yourself,
your family, their families, brothers, sisters, are friends. So I was.
I got to experience what happens for the person who lives, right,

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So when I knew she was safe, so I wouldn't
feel that now do want to live? When I know
your kid died and now I know how horrible your
life is for the rest of your life. So it
really was driven by that empathy to say, I don't
want you to feel that way. Look at other people
like Mavericks and the Maddoxes and the Brugman's and the

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people that are have experienced hawk and Berry's Yeah, yeah,
oh my god. Then's the newest. They don't want people
to feel with and they're working diligently to the situation. Absolutely,
I don't want you to know what I feel. That's
a hero that someone's in the battle, blood and sweat,
that says I have took the hit. I don't want

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you to know.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
You're listening to Arthur Lee, CEO and inventor of Life Act,
now saved over four thousand lives in over thirty countries,
and we're going to be back with more with Arthur.
My name is Rick Thatcher, and we're back with more
of the man in the arena after this break.

Speaker 9 (15:39):
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Speaker 3 (16:10):
Hi, I'm Arthur Lee, inventor, founder and CEO of Life
Act and a proud father. Did you know choking is
the fourth leading cause of accidental death Tragically, one child
dies every five days. Now imagine your child, your spouse,
or someone you love choking. You have only seconds to act.
It's a situation no one wants to face, but it

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get yours today.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
Hi.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
I'm Arthur Lee, CEO and inventor of life Back, a
simple choking rescue device that thirteen years ago was made
my garage to protect my daughter.

Speaker 6 (17:18):
Now all of these lives have been saved thanks to
life Back, over four thousand lives and over two thousand kids.
But still a child dies every five.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
Days for joking.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Please, our family is everything to us. Consider protecting your
family in a choking emergency with life Back. Go to
lifefac dot net today.

Speaker 6 (17:38):
Thanks Dad.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Now on iHeartRadio more of the Man in the Arena
the Life Back Radio Show.

Speaker 10 (17:46):
Here again are Arthur Lee and Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
I just love that.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Radio people. That's a commercow Yeah, looks up at me
and it means the world. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
So you mentioned radio people podcast people. You're listening to
iHeart Radio's Man in the Arena also heard in La Houston, Orlando,
San Diego, Dallas, New York, and Allentown, PA. For good measure.
And before the break, we were talking about, you know,
some of the inspiration and the the guts the determination

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that you know, I guess got you to really rely
on the Man in the Arena phrase.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Well, The funny thing is been on my desk my
whole life.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
So did your father share the Man in the Arena
with you?

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah? Well, well, well one that was surviving the accident
to you know, starting a business. You know that I
started my first business because of that. Because when I
was thinking of doing it and I was approached to
take over the New York franchise, I said, if I
don't do it, I'm going to look back and say
I could have tried. I didn't. You know, that's what

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it's about. Try, you know, tryfl But at least you tried.
You don't have to look back something and say, oh,
you know. And the premise to Life Act was, you know,
wasn't over this. We were successful, we built it and
taught me a ton of things, but it also took
a little some of the fear away from doing it.
I'm going to try. Now. This was ridiculous because the

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medical product and pay review and FDA nothing I knew
anything about. But it was more significant in its purpose.
So it was I will make it up and give
it all I got. I'll be the man in arena.
But that's what this story is about. The other people,
like we were talking that you know, the hock Mary's

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and then those people are in the arena, you know,
So that's hopefully the backbone of the show. And if
you're listening and you have a man in the arena story,
contact us.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, for goodness sakes, or don't want what we don't want?

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yes, I believe that those guys are smart. Thank you
very much. Know what did you do, what did you feel,
what did you face? And had you come out of it?

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, we want to talk to We want to talk
to similar people in their own arenas happen to be
dealing in the arena of first aid and choking emergencies,
but people share common causes or common concerns.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Do you have we talked about the book. That book, Yeah, Molly,
my book is in the arena stories that make us
who we are? Right, throwing a rocket and a kidne
it's a bad thing, you learn that, But at the
point of the matter.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Is a great example from the book.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Those are in the arena's stories. And then if you
whoever you are, if you're driving and whatever, you retrospectively
say what makes me who I am? You're going to
find those stories, right, whether it's your parents, your friends,
a movie. So the book is kind of documenting the man,
the arena, bits and pieces that make up who you are.
We are who we are based on our circumstances. And

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then it backs into the fact that you could they
could make you better or worse. There's no real It's.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Like when Yogi Berra said, when you come to fork
in the Road, you take take take that. You mentioned
the book and we're talking about sorry, can't is a lie?
The book by Arthur Lee, and you go to life
Act dot net. While you're there, why not get the
original life Fact device that has now saved over four
thousand lives. And that's just those that are been reported.

(21:17):
We know from Ryan Warner road Show. Ryan is out
in Costco and just just in individual Costcos an amazing
amount of anecdotal stories. People said crazy, haven't reported it.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Crazy story with the guy driving down to the hospital
thinking story, jumps out and saves the life and Slory
goes in his baby and that was because Ryan told
him how to do it.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Amazing the training that he got people out there.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
You have to listen the more story.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
There's more stories, but go to Life Act dot Net.
I say that because you want to get the book sorry,
can't is a lie and you want to get the
original life fact use code while you're there, So life
fact dot net, Life fact dot com use code m
I t A guess what that stands for? A man
in the arena again Grick Faster along with Arthur Lee.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Talking about man in the arena? Did you on the
I wasn't here? I don't think last show? Did you
talk about our trip to DC?

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Boy? Did we talk about the trip to DC? And
we didn't talk about it in its entirety because in
two days we visited several different departments. We certainly talked
about our visit with the Veterans Administration. Good and I
know that you weren't able to join us last week,
but you had met with the Patent Office, you met
with Justice, Department of Justice, Customs, Customs, and there's more

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of progress. Well that's how you know, that's how Washington
seems to work.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Look on the gentler side, we did get some feedback,
we did get some direction, and uh, you know, we'll
we'll follow those. Not much help with the Patent Office,
but it was interesting because it was almost sheepish, right,
like we kind of know it's an issue here, you know,
and then they start talking about all these other things,

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and I didn't have thoughts say, well, they won't work
either because they just ignore everything. But very nice people,
very dedicated, and they did help us with a contact
at the FDA.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
There's already another reason for the FDA to be dealing
and paying attention to life back, and now they get it.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
In this case, it was the you think about it,
if they can copy our patent, but they still would
have to be compliant with the FDA and be registered.
They have to be well more than that, Yes, they
have to be registered. They have to be compliant. They
have to buy by regulations to marketing and they don't
have to buy by any rules, which is really nice,

(23:42):
except you know it's wrong and people die because they
make junk. But they gave us a contact and that
was fine. Apartment of Justice, supposedly the person that could
help fight these illegal mincroos wasn't there. They did commit
to doing a public servicenouncement on the knockoffs and the data,

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so we'll see's.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Going to be a generalized warning about knockoffs or in
particular airway clearance devices.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Great, things take time. So I was part of the
contingent that met with the VA, and I was very encouraged,
not only and I said this before about the general
atmosphere in general in Washington. I feel much more optimistic
about the way things are going and the way people
talk and the action that's going to be taken. We
know that everything in Washington takes forever, not the way

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you like it, because it seems like the lean organization
that is life back out in Wisconsin, New York, decisions
are made in a day.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
I guess I have a bigger problem with priorities, you know,
but this is people's lives, kids lives, sections lives, So
you know, we need to have a system that is
conscious enough to go, Yeah, kids dying is up there
on the list of things we should probably you know,
get to.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Cliche. When is it? What number? Does it make it significant?
One makes it?

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Well? I mean and hundreds hundreds kid died? Cool? So frustrating,
but we'll persevere, We'll update people. So we got another
FD contact and we got the department just supposedly putting
out a warning. Right, So that's good. We'll go from there.
But part of the man in arena is accountability. Right,

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That's why I said how long has it been. That's
what they said they're going to do and we just
have to do this. And that's what man in mareens about.
I went there, we went that, we walked in. They
told us that, Yeah, I'm not saying and today the
border has been and.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
The the But at the same time, we celebrate a
huge win. We talked about our trip to Washington, but
we also had Tony Lebate on from Equal First Aid,
who is celebrating a near win. We have to wait
for a governor's signature. But a huge, huge win in
the state of Texas and there are eleven other states
that could follow suit.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Yeah, but think got uh, this is the American Red
Quest recommends it. If protocol is incorrect, I mean doesn't work,
doesn't work where is not feasible, Yes, it is not feasible.
That means our children in wheelchairs are guessing wheelchairs or
parents are our staff. They don't have anything that's against law.
That's an eighty eight violation. But more importantly than everyone

(26:21):
has second chance part of the Red Cross recommendation.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Do you think do you think the fact that it
took forty five years for them to make an update
is that people are surprised to hear that's thirteen. Yeah,
that no, that it's oh my goodness that it is
in there, because it's they're just so used to saying
they don't endorse the product. They they don't stand behind it.
They don't they don't say anything about it. But they

(26:45):
also basically say you're on your own. Well, we don't
have a plan, you.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Know, the equal first aide mission is as clear and
as simple as it gets. They need something right. And
I've told this story probably on this show with a
woman whose son had Down syndrome. He was a big kid.
She cried in my arms and said, this was my
biggest fear. I knew I couldn't do anything like imagine
having your child and knowing you cannot even do it.
He choked. You just watch him and get him around.

(27:12):
Couldn't get him out of the chair. Higher risk, right,
Oh yeah, absolutely no doubt. And he actually had down
single man's horrible palsy. So he was a major choking race.
Beautiful kid, but he was big, and I felt her,
felt her. The relief guys said that today, he said
that today his son and autism, and he said he
was I don't know if you saw any kind of

(27:34):
sneak one to him and give it to him.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
I did. Yeah, So was that in the breakout room.
And we're gonna talk about what we're referring to this morning.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Or why should they know what we're talking about?

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, I think it's important.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
I think isn't it what you're supposed to do? Isn't
it important for he was supposed to?

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, paint the picture. So this morning, this very morning,
not when you're listening to this, but we're on a
here on a Thursday. You were with Joe Piscop comedy legend,
but we were also with a group of pastors.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
How cool was that?

Speaker 2 (28:04):
It was fantastic to have that many people of God
in one room, all like intrigued. And they were nurses
that were part of the church. There were doctors that
were part of the church, pas nps, and just clergy
who care about their flock. They were interested. Most of them,
thanks to Laura and the marketing team, were familiar with

(28:26):
life back It wasn't like back there in twenty fifteen
and sixteen, where what's that tell me about it? There
was a lot of name recognition.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
But I think the pastor's appreciation and bookly right. Yes,
it was an aura. It was definitely an aura. And
you know, there was two things. One the people were
very dressed, were very formal to some extent, but not
formal like it should but just very well taken care
of and respects different energy. And the other thing, I know,

(28:56):
so it was a lot of color, like the women
wore a lot of color.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
It was.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
It was such a good atmosphere. Yeah, but the rr
was so cool. It's a great and everyone was so polite,
and you know, and when I told when I did
my little speech, I felt so comfortable talking about the
god Winks and his influence in our direction. Like not
that I'm not, but it was so embraced like they

(29:20):
you you would have loved it. They were such good
people and they and by you it means Lenny who
was a studio audience. It's backed in here, the guy
in the back of the right. But it was that
felt really good and it was a great atmosphere. And obviously, Joe.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
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break and we'll be back with more of the man
in the arena after this brief message.

Speaker 9 (30:55):
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Speaker 5 (31:26):
Hi.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
I'm Arthur Lee, inventor, founder and CEO of LIFEAC and
a proud father. Did you know choking is the fourth
leading cause of accidental death. Tragically, one child dies every
five days. Now, imagine your child, your spouse, or someone
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(31:46):
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(32:08):
on your life back home kit. That's lifefact dot net
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Go to lifeac dot net and get yours today. Hi,
I'm Arthur Lee, CEO and inventor of lifefact, a simple
choking rescue device that thirteen years ago was made my

(32:32):
garage to protect my daughter.

Speaker 6 (32:34):
Now all of these lives have been saved thanks to
life BacT, over four thousand lives and over two thousand kids.
But still a child dies every five days for joking.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Please, our family is everything to us. Consider protecting your
family in a choky emergency with life back. Go to
lifeack dot net today.

Speaker 6 (32:54):
Thanks Dad.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Now on iHeartRadio more of a Man in the Arena,
the Life Back Radio Show.

Speaker 10 (33:02):
Here again are Arthur Lee and Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Again. Thanks Dad. Brings us back from before the break.
We were talking about Joe Pistell.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Remember I mentioned that Mike Row is nice and as
cool and as real as he is, you know, he
doesn't change. That is Joe actually become pretty good friends.
And we have so much fun when we do our interviews,
you know, and we shoot off on different subjects, and.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
I think there's more to come from this relationship.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Oh definitely. Well, we talked about doing a book signing
with his book and mind Average Joe and how much
fun that would be. But here's what's cool for the audience. Right,
you're growing up, you watch him sidewive in the movies,
and then as we got to hang out, like he
can tell you stories of what happened when he was

(33:50):
an ongoing when he was young comic waiting online or
and a lot of it's in his book, but you know,
getting to hear it from him, and then you know,
actually being of the like busses chops and stuff, like
you're scared to bust Joe bisical chops, but then you
be like, it's fine, he gets it. He cracks up.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
And he's such a gentle soul that there was a
time that you're absolutely right, I would be afraid to
look at Joe the wrong way because he was, uh, he.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Was sitting pretty hard. But see that's what people don't
talk about a man in the arena. At first he
was a comic, then he was like an MC. Then
he was on Sigent Live. Then he made movies. Then
he became bodybuilding. Then he became a you know, a
Frank Sinatra impersonator. It's not even part he is, you know,
like and his respect for the Nachra family, Like it

(34:40):
came up today and we were talking and it's one
of his stories and he met him and he's he
was terrified. That was his dad's idol, that was his guy,
you know, and he says, uh, he was. Sinatra was
in the chair getting ready and he walks in. He goes,
is this guy wacky?

Speaker 7 (35:00):
Alma?

Speaker 3 (35:00):
What it was Sinatra saying that, And it's just my
point is it's cool when guys like Mink or Joe
and Brian are the same. They are real behind the signes.
And Joe, you know, he talks about life back all
the time because he kiss and he wants you know,
he doesn't want people to die. So that was a
fun day this and then we had the energy of

(35:23):
these wonderful people that you know, are very soulful and
it was just a really good morning and we got
the word out.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah from Brooklyn to the Gulf coast of Florida. Yeah,
you've been as always busy man and traveling and the
great work that a lot of life back advocates are
doing down in Florida. So talk about Shane Fordman.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
I just got chill because talk about men in the
arena that have made this happen. From Austin Laney and
the guys in the shop my garage. So Chuck and Shane,
they're in Pensacol Chuck Townsend, get in their car, they
contact Tampa Police. They get them to help us with
donation Thrive pens Gold and Tampa. Not a slow speed,

(36:06):
I have to mention that.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
But they are law enforced, so.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
They were careful at their high speed. But so they
come all the way. I meet them up in the
night before boom, we're up in the morning. We go
to Tampa Police. Amazing people. Okay, so they want to
do it. They had a near choking death. The officers
saved them, but it was like, you know, yeah, two
way too close for comfort. So when she contacted them,

(36:32):
they said, yes, we would love those this was too close.
We get it. The chief arranged a huge press conference.
The people in Tampa were embracing it, saying I saw
the comments. You know, we love our way to go.
You know, we need more of that in the situation
we're in. So the community supporting their police and appreciating

(36:53):
them that they did this, the chief saying, we appreciate
because we donated them. And now every police car in
Tampa as a unit.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah, and now that story needs to be because I
just don't want to have to make mention of stories
that proliferate and dominate the news cycle. This is the
story that should be concentered on and celebrated, not the
ones where people are hurling things at police cars. And
you know, it's just an ugly situation. This is what

(37:21):
life should be.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
But part of the ugly situation is we've gotten away
from what's simple. Man in the arena stuff be a
good person, to help your name or be your friends.
You know. And after doing this for thirteen years and
doing a lot of Wayne's World when no one's watching
and just banging my head against the wall, you know,
to see seven news stations covering it to getting the

(37:44):
message out to getting. The community is happy and grateful
that their police are equipping with this. And you know
the latest inside edition, the police officer use it twice.
They saved and only and just recently saved the man
on the side.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Of the same woman that from Ackworth, Georgia.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
And I met her when she did the first one.
Who knows you do it again?

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Amazing. You have to know that among the four thousand
some odd lives or you know, forty one hundred that
have been saved, they were all amazing and they're all
miracles for those folks that are saved, those souls that
are saved. But some really, I mean just incredible. Uh
you know, stories on when the device was delivered, who
gave it to him? Yeah, ray pret.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
But what I learned early on was the soul of
our officers. Here's what I mean. Oh yeah, d big
guy bullets right, okay, they great, shoot at me, baby
dies in my arms.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
I'm crushed, yea, And might not regard it to be.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
More conscious of the human emotional damage that these guys
and men and women have to go up and face,
you know, all the horrible things they have to see.
And when I was out in Ontario, they had a
child die and then they had their officers save a
life with life back and I was able to go
get the tour. Incredible people that came out to Life

(39:10):
Save three thousand and just beautiful dudes. The guy's sung
was unbelievable. But it opened my eyes to how we
have to understand what they go through, not just the
rocks these idiots are throwing, but their depth of the
social challenge they face and how much they loved saving

(39:32):
that child too.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Yeah, what was the precinct in California?

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Ontario?

Speaker 2 (39:38):
That was Ohio. But what I'm struck by is in Texas.
It was a willingness of the police department to promote
this save and share the body cam video and the
news and the detail of Dalton Schroeder when the rest
of the precinct didn't think.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
About the departments that have you know, uh legally and
professionally and made it shared those bodycam videos those departments.
It's saving lives all over the country. We have five
saves today right like, as we're doing this, I gotta
text five exclamation point another save it Sinceri Senior Living

(40:19):
and earlier we say the four year old boy choked
on a peach, and that's why we're talking on the radio.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
So five people today, just for the folks that are
tuning into The Man in the Arena once again, the
fastest growing podcast in America. Yeah, we're proud of that.
All across the country. People are listening and they may
not have heard the story before, but twenty twelve you
invent Life Act. Twenty sixteen, the first first year that
a life, a life was saved with Life Act. And

(40:45):
how many the entire year, Arthur was there?

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Six four four, Well the first year.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Crazy and just today five. So it goes to show
you the momentum that is on fast year on our side.
Oh my god, you sixty three now, Oh my goodness.
Happy birthday. Oh yeah, we're getting there. Yep, Candles, there
you go. Candles. You listen to Arthur Lee recount the
sad story of my birthday which they're getting away from us.

(41:13):
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Speaker 3 (41:42):
Oh it's calling big time man.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Well we'll talk more about that. Yeah, we'll talk more
about that on the other side with more the man
in the arena.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Hi, I'm Arthur Lee, CEO and inventor of Life Fact,
A simple choking rescue device a thirteen years ago was
made my garage tech my daughter.

Speaker 6 (42:01):
Now all of these lives have been saved thanks to
life Back, over four thousand lives and over two thousand kids.
But still a child dies every five days for joking.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
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Speaker 6 (42:21):
Thanks mad.

Speaker 9 (42:22):
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(42:42):
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Speaker 3 (42:52):
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BAC and a proud father. Did you know Choking is
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(43:13):
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(43:33):
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Speaker 1 (43:51):
Now on iHeartRadio, more of the Man in the Arena
the Life Back Radio Show.

Speaker 10 (43:57):
Here again are Arthur Lee and Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Before the break, I was stuttering up a storm life fact.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
That's because I mentioned you.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Oh yeah, I got a little for clemt Yeah. So
the Man in the Arena is uh this story behind
live facts certainly.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Well, you were saying that my book, sorry, can'ada lie.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
It's a new cover.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
He's what he did. So I put it out and
to make sure I didn't want to sell ice to eskimos.
If it was good, I said I would go out
and publish it. If people didn't like it, I'd throw
it out and move on. Great reviews, really heartfelt stuff.
So we're going to publish it, and you know it's
going to be the real deal. Let me be the
bookstore and all that. Sure, we just made this, we

(44:40):
just printed it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
But there are some interesting interesting diagrams, like the original
floor plan for your treehouse, my dad. Now there's no
footage or actual depiction of the rock throwing. There's great
pictures of you and then the tiger costume and stuff
with you and Jackie. It's one of us pictures of
you and your dad a prom tuxedo that I Maria

(45:06):
courage and wow, that's a that's.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Sometimes the cool thing is in the one that's going
to be out in Barnes and Noble. We added some
stories from my daughter. Oh so she has her kind
of interpretation of uh, you know, events and what's shaping
and internal advice because we definitely have the first time
in life this you know, we're going away. The people

(45:32):
that know to change the channel are using your hand.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Again with the birthday are gone.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Yeah, it's okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
You know what's great is that we could pick out
each other.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
No, but we are.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
That's great too, and it's it's all good fun. And
we grew up together. So I still feel incredibly young
at heart and in mind and spirit when I'm around
guys that grew up together in Massa people in New York.
Not all the guys in mass people, but a lot
of them. But I love the fact that this book
that you wrote. Sorry can't justly again. Go to life

(46:04):
back dot net and get a copy of this book
because we talk about it quite a bit. And it's
a great book. But you were inspired by your dad.
You lived an incredible life, and you're not done yet.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
We keep going. I started thirteen years ago. Over one
hundred kids. I've choked to death in school since I started, right,
and we were on the verge again in the mandate
in Texas, and I read Dad and I was excited.
And the next day there was a lawsuit and death
in Illinois, and it kind of I know, it's God,

(46:35):
put me in and you got more work to do, right,
And that's fine, that's what he needs to do. But
the reality is where the beginning of the end, there's
going to come a time and the quicker people realize
how dangerous it is in our school where they're eating
quick and I have little windpipes and making each other laugh.
It never happens again. How amazing would that? One hundred

(46:58):
kids since I started parent Yeah, And it's kind of
a duh because it is a lot of dues.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
It cuts through, it explains it.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
I think our generation in particular gets it.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Our country has got a large.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
I got a lot of dug going on, but the
ability for it to not exist is at hand.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Right, Let's talk a little bit about now what's the
next step in terms of wells a business.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
It's a big guy. When you survive the problem. When
you I survived two of my friends, didn't. You were
here to watch that devastation. You see yourself, your family,
their families, brothers, sisters, are friends. So I was I
got to experience what happens for the person who lives, right,

(47:46):
So when I knew she was safe, so I wouldn't
feel that now want to live when I know your
kid died and now I know how horrible your life
is for the rest of your life. So it really
was driven by that empathy to say, I don't want
you to feel that way. Look at other people like
Mavericks and the Maddoxes and the Brugman's and the people

(48:11):
that are have experienced Hackingberry's Yeah, yeah, oh my god.
Then the newest they don't want people to feel it
and they're working diligently to a situation.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Absolutely, But you were inspired by the trip, well, yes, yes,
the trip that we're going to take, Well that that
could come into play, but your daughter is now she
was seven at the time that you were. You were
inspired to come up with life BacT she's now at
a point where you're starting to see the fruits of
your upbringing, your knowledge, your wisdom, and this book and

(48:44):
the lessons that you learned now passed on to Jackie.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
You know, she's going to be twenty one who's going
into her junior year college. But when she won the
kindness the kindest person in the high school graduating class,
now that's you know, you got a vote right the
whole school. She was the kindest girl.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
And that was a very problem moment, And it was
kind of a verification that we are in my wife
and are implumenting the right mindset values. Yes, but and
this is really she's coming on this motorcycle trip with us.
We got to talk about it so that people when
we come back, yes, and the next time that it's
going to be, we should do the whole show on it.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Absolutely. I mean when we come back, we're going to
have footage for those that are watching tell us where
we're going. And it's called is it because I've only
seen it in print and I've seen it video. It's
a l i V right alive.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
A l i V. But here's the thing, so it's.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
It's like fantasy camp for motorheads.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
Yes, we're not really motives for the guys can't even ride.
You can't ride, No, I cannot, right, So right, but
here's what it is.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
And I'm honest about I better be honest about it.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Me you, Mike saying his son Jackie like two, and
she right.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
So Jane's a man's Mike Singer is a man.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
You're a man. But the purpose, and we have done
this and and I think I highly recommend everyone doing
it is to put really good people together and get away. Right.
So we're gonna be out riding motorcycles through the trails,
and we're gonna camp, and it's gonna be fancy camp

(50:26):
but it's gonna be nice.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
But they call it clamping. But it's fancy camping.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
That doesn't sound as good, doesn't.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yeah, But but a retreat doesn't always require that you
submit your blood type.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
That's the best. That was the thing. And I had
to talk today because if you look at there, you
know we may do this, We may go swimming, you
may get chased by bear. Poor Jaggie keeps worrying about
the bear.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
And I said to her, bring bring the bear costume.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
But I said to her Jaggie, we're old. You are
the safest person. The one who has to worry is
the slowest. Her. Bears never got to you. He's got
she's got. The bear's got to eat seven people before
he gets there, and Steve's not coming, then i'd be safe.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Well, you you've got the knee injection, so you can eat. No, No,
you'll be fine.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
I don't life talk a bear out of it, though.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Yeah, how much would it takes?

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Actually, word of all the things driving off cliffs and
being in the woods, and she's worried about the.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Bear, it said, bears. Well, listen, it's a concern. Some
people never fear.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Bears's going to be God, we're near Yosemite, so we
talked about this earlier.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
It's near Yosemite Park. I just found out in California.
Geographically ignorant. I think I thought Yosemite was up somewhere
close to Canada. I just figured because the Yogi bear
and that if that's the bear that comes after Jackie,
I think.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Say, what's the problem.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
It's very safe, cartoonish bear.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
He just wants are picking in a basket?

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Well, what else can we expect for this? You you
mentioned the retreat. It's good for these people that are
you know, mostly everyone's connected to a life fact, but
to get away and to bond in a way that
is I mean, it's going to be embracing a lot
of different components of just being in the arena, different arena.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
I think, you know, a part of me is, you know,
my whole life, mostly because my dad was cheap, but
I loved it. We camped on an island in the
middle of the Lake George beautiful, I mean absolutely beautiful,
and what We would play games at night, and we
would take hikes and we would snork on around the island.
There was no distractions. You know, you couldn't say, oh,

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you're going to go to breakfast and we're going to
go to the gift shop and Jack's going down. We're
stuck on an island for seven nine days and at
times it got a little bit much, but the point
was we really learned to enjoy nature and each other.
Right and you know, you get older, you you're like

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ancient now because you had a birthday ahead of me.
But yeah, you realize that it is the people. It's
the people you love. I mean everyone on this trip.
It's forty years friendship. And you know then we got
my cousin we held as a baby. We got my
other cousin who helped me as a baby, got Jackie
held as a baby.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Can't wait for the humor. Yeah, oh, I can already
tell what's going on text. So we're talking about the alive.
We think it's pronounced alive, but it's a l I V.
It's like fantasy. I can't wait. Motorcycle dune buggers, and
we will tell you all about it. That's when we're
back the next time. I'm Rick. I'm with Arthur Lee,
CEO and ventor of Life BacT On the Man in

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the Arena.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
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