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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Welcome to the Man in the arena. I'm Rick Thatcher
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(01:15):
the Nursing Home Warrior, Hey now and Patrick o'rearrick man
in the arena. Yeah, man and women and women listen.
A lot, very often we go back and ask Teddy Roosevelt,
what did you mean by that quote? And of course
he meant to be inclusive. Teddy Roosevelt was an inclusive gentleman.
He just man the woman stupid. Yeah, people in the

(01:38):
arena and and listen. Let's let's look back at the
one of the first executive orders of President Trump's first day.
He clarified and he made it okay to say there
are two sexes. I mean, that was an issue that
was waiting. Yeah. So you've had a we always say this.

(01:58):
You had a very interesting day today, you know, just
average run of the mill hanging out with Ben.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, no, kidd. And here's one of those things, which
is kind of cool. You have a hint. You two
have no idea what I'm talking about to surprise, Yeah,
which is kind of cool.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Because neither is the audience. It's not brain surgery. Ben Carson,
get it. I had him say that.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
We were goofed a rab where we're doing a commercial
and we did one where he goes. I said, you
don't have to be a brain surgeon, and you say, fact,
just place push and pull and he goes, or you
could be. It was so fun, but to lead into
that that type of Manni And so I had the
honor of hanging out with Candy and benk Carson can

(02:40):
yeah and there. If I could put them in every
home in America, we would be done and we'd have
the we'd be back to the greatest country ever, humble, kind, smart, uh,
connected to God and just amazing people. Right, But how
do you you know whoever gets to hang out out
and shoe pool with Ben Carson? So the Manly the

(03:04):
Arena book is really about foundations, right, How we have
a foundation right, how we make decisions right when you're young, Yoda,
I didn't think of that. It was a dumb decision
because that's how you build your repertoire in your brain
of how you make future decisions. The book canon is
a lie, So sorry, can I don't even my own book.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
No listen, and then you can get that at the
website that I referenced earlier www dot life, act dot
net get this book. Sorry, Canton is a lie and
actually just picked today.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
It's the final version of the published version is coming
out of My Bomb's birthday September twenty seventh. So we'll
talk about Yeah, well I picked, Oh no, I called
the godwink that's okay, and I went to sleep.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
That's just flirting and what the heck? That one? No good?
I let's add that anyway.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
So I'm hanging out with him and we're playing pool
and talking, and three times during the day I would
kind of come out with one of my reasons for
doing something and he would quote a song, right, and
they would connected thousands.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Of years apart, so similar lessons.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah, so I'm gonna we're gonna do a little exercise
you made Jim Kerr. This for the listening public. Want
you to take this stick and break it in half.
Take as long as little as you want.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
For those listening at home in San Diego, Los Angeles, Houston, Orlando, Dallas,
New York, and Allentown, PA. We have this what looks
like a ice cream stickin yeah tongue, and we break
it in half.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
I'll put it how close you got.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
Oh boy, Well it didn't break even like or even
close to half break.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
I'm pretty close. I'm a lefty, okay, So here's the question.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Right, So we've broken our sticks and now.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Mutilated hers and wasn't even close to her.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
A lot of aggress in there we should look into.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
It was pretty close, Pat, not too bad, right. I
was close to.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
What I said to break it in half. You said
break the steps.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
And you said anywhere.

Speaker 6 (05:10):
Thank you for that, so we who can I.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Didn't properly pronounce how to break it in half? Anyway.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
The point of the matter was I went into discussing, uh,
decision making right, which is the flat squirrel. You got
to make a decision. But this exercise was exploring because
we were playing pool. Sometimes golf you overthink right and
you were perfectly aligned.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
And then you said maybe you missed it.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Did anyone that was breaking it, you know, we weren't
quite sure on the half part feel that their adjustment
made it worse.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
I didn't even think about it.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
I really didn't think about it either, And Pat would
Lisa back you up on that. You just didn't think sometimes, yeah,
but sometimes that's all right.

Speaker 6 (05:58):
But my second one, I thought about and I did
much better.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
But all right, I just believed it much better. I
believe that's to think about it.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
So I was telling him the story and then he
came back with a salmon. I don't remember it exactly,
but one of them in Solomon is he who hesitates
is lost Vincementbardy, so I think, and Solomon, Yeah, well.

Speaker 7 (06:23):
Vince took it from Solomon, of course, but that was
one of his plagiarizer.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
But here's the kind of the we're going to wrap
into what we what I think we could and should
talk about. So over the years, you know, we learned
from our parents. You couldn't google it. You know, we'd
sit around the dinner table and fight over whether Babe
Ruth was better than Willie May's or In my house
it was usually something canical, you know. I wanted to
go over and iron falls and a bubble mom screaming

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me and dad and discussing the physics. But it was
discussion right because there was no app and Jackie made
a point on board him. Back in the day, you
were bored, your only option was to go do something right.
You couldn't sit there on your phone and just wake
up an hour later.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
And go just talk about Jackie, your daughter. Yeah, so
we started talking.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
I started sharing some things we used to do around
the dinner table, right, So we'd say, you know, first
was how was school? And then eventually they get into good,
how'd you do? Until their dancer?

Speaker 4 (07:20):
Right?

Speaker 3 (07:21):
And I would persevere and say something like and I
learned this was a good one to get him going.
Anything funny happened, right, or if you know, they had
Jim and they were doing line dancing. I was line dancing.
That's hysterical. I can't believe you guys do that. So
to stimulate the conversation. So then I was thinking what
Ben Carson did with his kids. He'd pick a psalm

(07:43):
for dinner and he'd say it and they'd all discuss it,
you know, what they thought, what it meant to them,
and stuff like that. And I was like, wow, that's
pretty cool. His kids are out pretty good. He obviously
did all right, So what a cool way to interact.
And you think about it, the technology has moved so fast,

(08:03):
Like we're the last generation that can connect pretty much
to our parents and our grandparents.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
So I was born in the sixties.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Well they you know, grandpa got radio, went to TV.
What's the big deal?

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Now?

Speaker 4 (08:16):
You could see still here, wasn't that big deal?

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Dad started radio, went to TV, you know, made it
partially into this world.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
He was never on TikTok or anything.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Thank god.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
You wanted My grandfather wanted to understand something, he went
to the library. My dad wanted something, he went to
the library. I went to the library, not often, but
the point is now it's a whole new world. Oh good, right,
And so to interject what my thought was realizing that
and the social consequences of technology, which we talked about

(08:48):
last time. First question, how did you guys? Did you
sit around the dinner table and with their discussions, Pat,
I got to hear this.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
Your family's hysterical.

Speaker 7 (08:57):
The only story I can relate to this is remember,
like you, we listened to songs like Billy Joe the
Captain Jack will get you by today. Yeah, so I
teld I'm gonna get Jack Daniels's drinking Jack Daniels, and
my son Connor is googling you. No, no, it's a
drug dealer, lived on the pot. And I'm like, well,
where did this come from? Just listen to your parents
even put full of it. Just listen to and then
you figure out some day. My parents were full of it.

(09:19):
They didn't know everything right, but that's how we figured
it out.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
But your house was pretty funny, did you guys crack
up around the all time?

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Now in your typical dide you sit down to dinner, Yeah,
and look at me.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Close as you and.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Homes go to that camp.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, work working on it.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Eventually we had to stop out of a dinner because
me and dad would get in fights over bubbles, over
the thing, Mom be yelling at us and all that.
But it was interactive, to say the least. I can't
imagine with your mom what it was like, but well
she has.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
A today technology issue with which she can get into
it in a little bit finish. Interesting.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
So was it a comic thing? Like back and forth?
Always always?

Speaker 7 (10:04):
And then then I married a girl who every Sunday
still we get together with her big Italian family. Yeah,
and they all just scream at each other and we
just we go home a car, right home. We just
take front of all rl.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
I mean, we love them though. We're like, yeah, yeah,
that's fine. My in laws are insane, but they're like
the lockhorns.

Speaker 7 (10:17):
Now they have a under over and windows start arguing,
and it's usually about a minute in.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Do the kids oh yeah, yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
See that's cool right now when you know, I've seen
lately a lot of kids stuck. They're just on their
phone and when they're off, they don't have to talk.
So come on, give me, let's go to her with
the woman in the arena. You're growing up? How did
you learn things? How did you interact?

Speaker 6 (10:42):
I don't know. If my family's listening dysfunctional. There was
a lot of talking.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
Sometimes the TV was playing in the background and we
were not even talking to each other but watching the
TV during dinner.

Speaker 6 (10:52):
Yeah, it was very interesting. It's normal though, Well it's
not normal.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
My son and I don't do that though, So my
son and I have a totally different relationship than I
had with my parents.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
What is the relationship with your son? Like, how do
you interact?

Speaker 6 (11:07):
We're like two peas in a pod. We are so close.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
We off we left phone.

Speaker 6 (11:13):
No, we don't need the phone.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
We like every morning, I leave him a note because
he's started his internship. I'm so proud of him, and
I leave him a note and it refers back to
like one of the cartoons we watched as a kid,
so he used to watch, well, you watched Max and Ruby.
So like yesterday morning, I wrote him a note I
hope you have a day as great as Max when

(11:35):
he found his dragon shirt.

Speaker 6 (11:38):
So we have a very good relationship. We're very close.
He actually tells me a little too much.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Do you want to talk about today's dynamic?

Speaker 5 (11:44):
I yeah, if you want to talk about it. I'm
still a little bit in shock about it.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
But yeah, it's interaction and it happened between her son,
and it certainly involves the phone, but it's up to you.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Well, I'll stick you on that's for a second, because
I think i'm The second phase is how can we
help people and give some ideas?

Speaker 2 (12:03):
So your family, what was it like without the phone?

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Well, when you're growing up.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Very Yeah, I have one brother and it was just
my mom and my brother and very structured time. So
there wasn't any like it was a bell we were outside,
come in. Yeah, ye start drooling right away. But it
was it was fun. We'd talk and we didn't really
think about the structure of it. Like, you know, how

(12:29):
was your day, what did you do? What did you
learn in school? I didn't have the same attention to
it that I think I did as a parent.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Well, and that along those lines, I don't think we
needed to as much as we do now because the
ability to say, you know gets great that you're watching something,
I'm watching something you're can't connect right Back then you'd
say remember happy days yesterday everyone saw it. But my
second part of this was his use of a topic
from the Bible. Now, this book is huge, and it's

(12:59):
very intimidating.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
He's referencing the Holy Bible, of which he has a copy.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
There are things like proverbs that you're just a short
burst that you could then use for discussion. We used
to do roads and thorns right, to get talking and
to be grateful for the things and minimalize the bad things.
So you know, what are ways that we can stimulate
the brain?

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Right?

Speaker 3 (13:22):
A proverb makes you think you can't google the answer
because it comes from inside you, you know. So the
connection was amazing that his proverbs met my wisdom from
growing up.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
And how do we perpetuate that.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
The lessons were There was a common thread from the
stories that you were sharing. In the stories that Ben
would take a Bible verse or a proverb.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
But also I love the fact that the dinner was
about a topic of goodness.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Right, what does it mean to you? Right? You can't
dodge that, you know.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Probably we get out of fighting over balloon over Niagara falls.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
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Speaker 4 (16:18):
Here again are Arthur Lee and Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Went on, one.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
Did the dishes, one dried them, one swept, and then
one took all the golf. So every week you had
a different job, so you rotated. Let me talk you
about it's my week.

Speaker 7 (16:33):
Yeah, I can imagine that sometimes sometimes we break rooms
over each other.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Six kids, so not.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
The right over like this, not the little cross stick
that was used to pay them.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
So, as you can tell, we're back on the Man
in the area that.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
Meant something to me. Okay, we're back.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
All Yeah, you just made the story to be so
much bigger than it is.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
No, it's our actually pretty telling because number one, you've
already alluded to the fact that you and your son
have this great relationship, obviously comfortable sharing some pretty intimate
communications from a young woman, and it brings into this
technology right there in the middle it's going down tonight.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Get a little nervous. My son's here too.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
We couldn't read it for BODYE do you have wait?

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Wait? What is the genre of this?

Speaker 5 (17:27):
Jack is my son and he and I are in
a group chat with our neighbors who live below us,
who we absolutely love, and we go back and forth
all the time about various issues that happened and pop
up during the day.

Speaker 6 (17:38):
And my son wanted.

Speaker 5 (17:39):
To share with us a text message interaction that he
had with a girl that he just met last night
on Snapchat.

Speaker 6 (17:47):
So he shared it in the group and I was mortified.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
It could be fun, could be fun.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Quite frankly, it's more of a scary moment.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
I think it was a really scary moment. And then
I explained to you why I thought.

Speaker 6 (17:58):
I'm scared.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
But see, that's why I think this is a time
of critical nature to make sure we have foundational discussions
on values.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Here it is the woman says, what's the doggo's name?
Because he or she is super cute, and when can
I grab your bicep? So right there, it took a turn,
and your son risks replies, tomorrow night, babe.

Speaker 6 (18:21):
The babe park. So this is from your son that
you were concerned and yeah, he doesn't know this, babe.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
And then he comes back with I have two questions.
What did you hit at the gym today? That's what
you work out? Translation? And when can I grab your
waist and make out with you? And make out? I
think still means the same thing.

Speaker 6 (18:42):
It makes a little bit more than that.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Oh it does, Yes, make out.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
This is why we got to get back to the
original discussion. So let's get back to fighting over engineering
and floating over the angle for yes, that'd be great.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
Pat. You said in your family, everyone had a job
at dinner.

Speaker 7 (18:59):
Six kids brady bunch before boys, two girls, Yes, preparation.
But one brother did identify as a that's a whole thing.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
He'd loved jan No one liked. It's weird anyway, A
right Brady bunch of effy. That's kind of a cool
throwback to right, you'll have a job.

Speaker 7 (19:17):
Everyone hated jobs, and especially so one person set the table,
one person cleared the table, one person did dishes, one
person tried, one person did the garbage when that person
didn' sweeping. And if you set the table, you had
to be home fifteen minutes early. You had to be really,
you had to be home by like six o'clock, and
dinner we served at six h If you.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Were at home for dinner, we just took your food. Yeah,
we'd look at on mother and be like, he's score
and he didn't eat that.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
She didn't eat that, which is so different than today
when when we ask our children what they want and
then twenty five different things.

Speaker 7 (19:46):
Me bananas, my wife every when they were little, what's
everyone want?

Speaker 9 (19:50):
No?

Speaker 4 (19:50):
No, you get that for your birthday. One day a year,
we would get what we wanted for I remember my
mother every to jail. Your birthday, you got it. It
was food.

Speaker 10 (19:59):
D I mean there's nights where you do you anyone ever had
to sit there to play the livery string beat me
and that like three hours I went to sleep under
the table string beans.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Can you believe I refused to eat string beans?

Speaker 2 (20:13):
I'm not eating to eat Yeah, no doubt. I mean
I wouldn't have to hide, learned how to hide certain
vegetables inside the big potato. Yes that that worked well,
But you know, I'm immediately brought back to around the
dinner table. The because we had a lot of neighbors
and people in the neighborhood. We were out playing the
rules that had to be followed on asking can someone

(20:36):
eat over?

Speaker 4 (20:37):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Can so and so eat over? It had to be
done in a very specific way.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
Really did their mother invite you? Yeah? You know, did you?

Speaker 2 (20:44):
What you invited is do they know they're coming? You know?
Do we have enough? All those good things? But it
was always welcome. We had a good I certainly didn't
have the numbers at the castle, but we have.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
That's kind of here. That's also something that isn't is
prevalent six kids.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Having six seven household.

Speaker 7 (21:04):
She was twenty three with right, Wow, she's twenty three
with twenty three with six kids?

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Oh my god, twenty seven a widow.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Could you imagine twenty three now you know they're afraid
to cross the street.

Speaker 7 (21:17):
I wanted to have more. I think if we kept
having boys we would have kept going. So my wife's like, yeah, yeah,
I went four and with a boy, boy, and then
we had a girl.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
She's like, I'm done.

Speaker 7 (21:26):
I want to have as many as kid Yeah, because
like they used to have a picnic and say two
of them are idiots? Right, still got three good people? Right,
It's like yeah, in fight everyone that's my family.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Now, and your son who's in the audience per.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Which one of mine? But I think that good.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Look, you know, the hope of this discussion is to
stimulate helping the next generation develop their own mindsets.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Google the answer. The key is that we have to
be conscious of this. Right.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
It's going so freaking fast, and Colvid messed everyone.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Up, so, no doubt a lot. We have a generation
that's damaged.

Speaker 7 (22:01):
So even the video games were a big thing when
my kids were little, and they still are. But I
was like, my kids got bored after like a half
an hour anyway, Yeah, someone twelve hours. I'm like no.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
If they started doing it a lot, I was like,
get out of there. That's enough.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
You have to have rules at the dinner table.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Both Yeah, you have to wear a shirt. You can
you can Donald talk it, you don't have to, but
you have to wear a shirt. Shirt.

Speaker 7 (22:26):
My father lawd Sunday didn He had a velcrow towel
and nothing else. You prayed that belcro work. Come on
the first two dates where her, I was like, oh
my god, this guy comes to dinner like this every Sunday.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Was he funny too?

Speaker 5 (22:38):
Ah?

Speaker 4 (22:38):
He thinks he is he's a good guy. He does
a lot for the Vets.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
But anyway, I think that there's this idea of topics
because the other thing we used to do.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
Who's the guy Bob Ross who paints.

Speaker 5 (22:54):
You can see him on flo TV, the whole channel. Man,
he's been like, you get twenty four hours a day.

Speaker 6 (23:05):
You could watch immediately.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
But if I may finish, Just kidding, but we would
if you do Bob Ross, like, we'd all get one.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
My dad was, you know, kind of going down, so
he'd be paying like red.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
But they teach you you dap here, dap here, So
we'd all do it and then you know, kind of
show each other our paintings.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
But it was.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Another way to get out and do something together that
was outside the box. And after a while you kind
of got decent at it, you know, and it was
a lot of fun. And I think we man in
the arenas about us facing challenges, not you know, the
guy on TV saying today big things happened, just like yesterday.

(23:48):
We're talking with people that are in this arena and
dealing with this and addressing something that is kind of
behind the scenes, but it's coming, you know. And when
spending time with the Carsons, I was able to really
step back and say, you know David and Goliath, the
story that has a lesson, how do you learn your foundation?

(24:10):
If you can get the answer, kids do stupid things
they're supposed to. That's how they learned. Pat do you
ever do anything stupid?

Speaker 4 (24:18):
Too many? No? Too many? I would think not.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
You never never see that would probably not got that
from the movie.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
No, I actually did that.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Do you remember you first? Do you remember a moment
of learning a lesson by doing something stupid?

Speaker 11 (24:35):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (24:35):
Yeah, like anytime you got in trouble in school, you
were like, definitely shouldn't have done that.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
They call your parents and you go to principal.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
I got in trouble for bringing certain things to school,
showing the mayor of massive Peopla centerfold when I see
a pretty girl, firecrackers, stink bombs. Yeah, well I was screaming,
screaming for attention. But did you learn of trouble? You
would think that I would learn, And it took a while.
But again I rely on that myth or that thought

(25:05):
that it takes about twenty five years for the male
brain to fully come into its own and to make
good decisions because I tested that. Oh, I think that's
that's the average.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
I was around thirty two. But yeah, way above average.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Well we done. We did dumb things.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
No, no, but that's that's that's the point the rock. Yeah,
well I have a book full of dumb things. But
the point was a dumb thing that taught you less.

Speaker 5 (25:31):
My childhood girlfriend and I were riding our bikes and
the ice Creaman truck man invited us into the ice
cream truck and we went in.

Speaker 6 (25:40):
He's like, take whatever you want, so we did.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
How old were you with this one?

Speaker 6 (25:44):
We were riding.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
Bikes, so what were we? Eleven twelve? Were riding bikes
from the neighborhood. And I got home and I showed
my mom all this ice cream and I was so happy.
I was like, look at all this ice cream.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
My god. I didn't have to pay for it. And
I definitely learned that.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
Probably I was a hard I've learned a lesson about
ever going into somebody's.

Speaker 6 (25:59):
Truck agoun, but I.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Learned.

Speaker 5 (26:04):
I learned that lesson immediately and I never went in
another ice cream truck again.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Did you think at the time that there was like afterwards,
when Mom pointed it out that it was wrong. Did
you look back and say, wow, you know what that
was dangerous?

Speaker 5 (26:15):
I did because she really scared UH to who he's
out of me? I learned a serious lesson. I never
got into an ice cream truck.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
And now you get.

Speaker 6 (26:25):
I never got But don't you have swirl?

Speaker 5 (26:30):
Like if it was a mississ Sophie, I'd probably consider
it because I looked like I might.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
But regular.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
But now we get on an app and a stranger
shows up and we get the call back to.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
The text messages that my son doesn't know this girl,
and I'm like, I don't understand how this can happen
when we don't know her.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
I think the was reversed and you were talking to
your daughter in a situation.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
The people that think about is to think of those
situations and then use something like the Bible or quote
or a hobby is something to re evaluate the communication.
Because my nephew dude was over and it's so hard
to talk to me.

Speaker 7 (27:11):
You can't get them to talk, and I can't stand
when the parents are he's shy. Well, tell him not
to be shy. You know, this is how you live
in the real world, and sometimes it's relatives of mine.
When my nieces were little. I said to my brother Tevin,
when I'm like, you know, I have never even helped you.
You know your kids, well they well I'm there their uncle.
So if if I wisdom in the pool.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
I don't let them in the ice cream truck.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, I was gonna ask. That's tarantine.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
You got to stay on top of all the day.
You know, it's firmly more not the going on.

Speaker 6 (27:39):
That was a big lesson, my big lesson.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Thank goodness, you say other trucks are.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Probably off the face.

Speaker 6 (27:45):
He didn't tell me about the truck one of those.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
I love anything that plays music, don't get it. That's
a good lesson.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
It's a very good lesson, and I did learn it
right away. I mean my mom took it to the
where every can take it to about me getting kidnapped,
geting killed, getting murdered, getting the whole entire thing.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
I really was scared.

Speaker 7 (28:06):
We used to go out for six hours, seven hours,
get in trouble, come home. No parents never knew. Right now,
with this thing, you worry all the time. You can't
get in touch with for ten minutes, and every horror
story goes through your head right until you're get in
touch with the.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Bottom line of this discussion comes from the AI and
the lack of trust is what is the damage that
that's doing and how do we understand that we're in
an age it's completely different.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
You know.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
The good thing when I was researching life back man,
I was able to find stuff. We have the ability
to accomplish great things, right, yeah, because we can get
information and make progress by seeing what was done. The
problem is if we just embraced what was done and
not using it to do other things. And in this instance,
especially hearing the Carsons technique and their kids are amazing

(28:52):
that we need to reincorporate the understanding that this situation
is going on, right and maybe me a little more
conscious of creating discussions and even more so, you know,
not everyone learns not to get an ice cream truck,
but learning more foundational values right right, Because not only

(29:16):
do we learn, you know that if you take a
hammer and you smash and nail and your hands there,
you're going to hit it, right, but we also learn
to be kind, to be aware, to be considerate, to
be friendly but not jumping ice cream trucks, to interact
and to build our own foundation that helps us with

(29:38):
our kit there your own cants a livebook.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
I'm curious doctor Ben Carson, and you spend time with
him playing pool and he's talking about raising his kids,
raising his family. Were there any challenges? I mean, because
it happens to everyone, right, were there any challenges that
they faced with their kids?

Speaker 3 (29:57):
And you know, I'm sure they did. But when you
hear about the kind of the world they were brought
up in, I think they get addressed early. If you
take a proverb and discuss its up and down and stuff,
you're kind of starting to really build someone that has
a solid backing. Right, These thousand year old lessons are

(30:18):
useful today. Their kids were brought up understanding their foundation,
you know, having it so you know the ice cream
truck thing that you know, there.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Were proverbs about don't getting the ice cream truck.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
I think I think part of this is also not
only knowing the proverbs and studying and having those conversations,
but it's also the actual relationship you have with your children.
Because my son literally tells me everything again, things I
don't always want to know, but he knows that he
can tell me because I'm going to listen. I might

(30:50):
flip out a little bit, because I've been known to
do that, but we have a trust with each other,
and I think that that's also important that the parents
make a safe place for the children to be able
to come and tell them anything without me judging him.

Speaker 6 (31:03):
Although I just judged him on TV radio. I did
literally just judge him. But he's twenty one now. He
needs to get over that.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
It's a healthy concern, natural for a parent.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
How did you become such a fierce person for the elderly?

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Like? Is there something in childhood that did it?

Speaker 5 (31:19):
My mom says that even when I was little, I
just gravitated to them, and I firmly believe, and I
am not a Bible religious any kind of person like that,
but I believe in my heart that God asked me
to do this for him because he can't do it
right now.

Speaker 6 (31:34):
He's not here on earth, and he.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
Needed somebody to advocate and love these people. And he
just told me at some point that it was going
to be me, and I don't have anything else I
can do except actually do this.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
It's an interesting fact that they're constantly talking about elder
housing elder care facilities. They didn't exist because people stayed home.
You know, we took the elderly. You know, grandparents lived
with me until.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
They died, you know.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
And I think that's another piece of the puzzle that
we have to maintain in our heads. Is a changing world. Yes,
we're gonna took care of my grandfather when I was.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
A little kid, which is beautiful. It's a gift we.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Gotta stack away.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Like Pat, you will take care of your grands There'll
be more John.

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And crazy mister three thousand coming up, so stay with us.
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Speaker 1 (34:21):
Now on iHeartRadio, more of the Man in the Arena,
the Life Back Radio Show. Here again are Arthur Lee
and Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
And the Nursing Home Warrior Danielle. We were just hearing
about the reason where you're why as to your calling
to be such a fierce defender of the elderly, and
it says a lot, Arthur was alluding to. It says
a lot about our society and in comparison to other societies. That's,
you know, how we respect and treat the elderly.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
But here's the bigger picture, right then.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Carson McCain the world renowned surgeon and incredible human being,
but his early years he had anger issues. And you
know he's brought up in poverty and his ability to
change came from God in the Bible and the proverbs
and reading the Bible and his wife too. So there
is a Tony Robbins do what works right. So when

(35:16):
I was success, yeah, He would always say, if you
want to be a great golfer, do what Tiger Woods does?

Speaker 4 (35:24):
You know?

Speaker 3 (35:24):
So I was taking that in that. You know, there's
a statistic and it goes back to games to count
something like eighty percent of ententrepreneurs played sports and eighty
percent of convicts didn't.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
And it's really dramatic. Yeah, it's really dramatic.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
But once again, that's where my brain circled into breaking
sticks and talking about this, because I said, if someone
uses a path to become that great, I mean, you're
a neurosurgeon, you ran for president, you've been the housing director,
you have a credible family, and him and his wife
are just awesome together. Maybe we should do stuff like

(36:02):
that to become like that.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
Right, So with.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
This world and not this world that's the Bible? How
do we get there? And why not just follow his lead?

Speaker 2 (36:13):
How did he do it? Does he does he give
credit to the Bible without that no turnaround? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Absolutely, you don't know.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Doctor Ben Carson is the incredible human being that he is.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Ye, But his ability, I mean he's a neurosurgeon, which
isn't hugely difficult, but he was able to rely on
these this book these words, like you said, I started
to read the Bible good about he sentenced in and
I'm like, I don't even know what's going on, right,
So when he mentioned the proverbs with a little bits

(36:46):
of wisdom, I said, that's not my alley, So maybe
we can incorporate not be intimidated by this book cliff
notes exactly proverbs cliff Notes of the Bible.

Speaker 7 (36:57):
It supposedly doctor Stanley's Bible as uh, he has like
little cliff notes on the side of it.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Does he?

Speaker 7 (37:02):
But like you're supposed to interpret your own way though, right,
you can't just see.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Well, that's why I thought the proverb discussion was good
because you can interpret it.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
You can interpret the mic.

Speaker 7 (37:14):
Maybe we'll do them, but you basically the same thing
at all the lessons in it, you know, be good,
be generous, Yeah, help your fellow men.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
But a lot of them are you know, talk about
like pulling out a depression or there are actual issues
that it addresses that make you talk about things. And
I think that was what he was able to use
those moments to overcome things.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
With some guidance. And if we share it with our
kids or in our.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Lives, you know, you know someone you kind of can
talk to them by using something to stimulate that discussion
and get us out of the day to day brain right,
people spiral down all the time.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
How do you stop them? You know? And how do
you get people to talk again? I'm going to fact kid?
Oh yeah, I know? Did you start? But I'll talk
to not at all? I talk too much? Do you
actually will get rid of me? No? They just call
me from minutes from North Carolina. Now you got to
dance around on the screen. I don't know. Maybe if
they won't be a truck.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
He's willing to do work. He's not a blacker.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
I'll take pictures. I'll do it shirtless.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Now we talk about the sides of this book, Arthur,
the Holy Bible which you have here, and there's other
ways to make it connect to today's world. We have
a gift that was just given to us by one
of our most dedicated and loyal followers, Lisa Warner. Is
perfect and it breaks it down for like little daily lessons.

(38:39):
I remember from college I was introduced to a publication
called Our Daily Bread. Great organization where you know, you
have a little book looks like a day planner, but
it's got a little like life lesson and then it
relates back to parts of the Bible that you can,
you know, learn more.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
I guess part of me was saying, I wish I
had known this when she was little, because it's such
a cool way to discuss things. Now I've tried, you know,
paint good job for us as creative rods and thorns,
and you know, trying to infiltrate and ask what you
know was challenged just different ways. But if we were
able to help others, it would be using the topic

(39:19):
maybe to help. And this is a great source of
these topics that once again this death machine is also
a live machine. Google and say probb for tonight and
you'll get one right. So you got something to talk about,
No doubt that you're pondering.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
What are you pondering?

Speaker 7 (39:34):
I think it's more like you want to be a
catalyst to your kids and what your loved ones about,
teaching the things that you had.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
But there's a guy who wrote a book. It's called Coach.

Speaker 7 (39:42):
It's only like ninety pages, and he went to high
school with Peyton and Eli Manning private school down in
New Orleans. He was the football, basketball and baseball coach
and like everyone who had this coach, he was there
for thirty years. It was like he was better than
I learned more from him than the Bible that learned.
And he taught you life lessons about being a man
in you know, taking responsibility for what you're doing. If

(40:03):
you came in five out pounds overweight, you know, you
committed to that. And the parents used to call and
complete and he'd be like, fire me, and no one
ever fired him because the the guy was around for
thirty five years. Thirty thirty five years. I'll bring the
book and it's a great book.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
Coach.

Speaker 7 (40:17):
I love it, but it reminds me of almost like
a Bible type thing, right, But everyone wants to be
a catalyst every well not everyone, but there's people out
there who.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
That's who you learned from simply call coach.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
But that's kind of why I introduced Bob Roth or
or whatever you know TV. I don't care his ability
to set limits, show that teamwork and commitment and all
the values coaches, that's why that's exists.

Speaker 7 (40:42):
Coaches raised me me too. His dad died and I
was four. He was full of our dad's done, so
we basically were raised by coaches.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
Who's the coach in your life? Catillo? Was you mister
till really?

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeap?

Speaker 4 (40:54):
Oh that's cool man. He was a cool dude. What
about you the ice cream man?

Speaker 2 (41:01):
You know?

Speaker 4 (41:01):
Well wait, let's check that. Yeah, who in your life
was someone that kind of you learned? Or my mom? My, mom,
who do you tear up with?

Speaker 6 (41:10):
A very strong woman? Very very strong woman. She gave
me a lot of life lessons.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
Definitely she did good.

Speaker 7 (41:17):
Now you're helping the elderly good, Well, that obviously we
all did.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Okay, so we our foundations were solid, our parents or
or coaches, in you guys cases, facing something so tough
so young, there is a way. But I think back
then it was more natural.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Coach. Then we're probably getting in trouble for what that
guy did. You got to run la.

Speaker 7 (41:38):
The problem, that's the problem with our generation too, is
the threat used to be I'm going to call home
and be like, don't call home, Yeah, please pick you
up for fireworks. I was like to take me to
exactly smack me around. Now you call home and they
back up the kid.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
Yeah. Well, once every kid lies, we all lie.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
We are conscious of this situation. I think is part
of which this show could do right to say these
things or remember people that influenced and say does my
kid have that? And if not, let's open the world
up to a foundational discussion. That's what I felt in
the Carson House, that their foundation was so solid that

(42:16):
he could go on to be a brain surgeon from
nothing with no faulther So got in trouble all the time.
The guy yeah, and that it was like twelve yeah,
but that was the moment that he started his Bible
pursuit because he said, I can't control this.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
You got to take it.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
And and whether it was the interaction God or his
belief that it did, he was done. He got rid
of his anger and he said I cannot go down
this path.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
I will not make it. I need help to get
rid of his anger. Where was he dressed?

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Where was he raised? Detroit bad neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Well, he grew up in very tough done no dad
and uh, you know his bomb worked crazy.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
How besides the Bible does he cite anyone.

Speaker 7 (43:03):
His mom and teachers he was like a child prodigy,
was a genius and like teaches quote onto it right
away and like this.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
Kid's a genius. He'd be you know what.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
He also worked, Oh yeah, like really hard, which I
think another thing we tend to kind of slack off on.
I remember I had a chopped wood. I chopped a
lot of wood in my life because my father said,
we want to have fire logs. I found down the block,
you're gonna chop.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
We'd be going out.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
I'd be dressed to be like, just chop the wood
for us to be like I guess chopping wood in
Mike Easy.

Speaker 7 (43:34):
We all cut our own lawn. We all, yeah, And
now this generation doesn't do it. It's you know, I
don't know. It tries me nuts. My kids did it.
And there was you know, at a baseball game one
time and they're like, oh, we're having a pool party.
Go yeah, kind as soon as you cut the loan,
you can. And he was like twelve, and every other
mother was like, cuts the lawn. Cut his hand off,
Like yeah, we all cut our hands off. And look

(43:55):
how many landscapes that one hand. Everyone's cutting their hands off.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
This generation that we have eight falls will look at
me like that's like, we'll just tell them he's cutting
the lord.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
You know, it's time for a quick break. We're going
to be back with Ray preby missed your three thousand.
He's gonna go on. Oh yeah, this code on this topic.
All right, join us on the other side. We'll be
right back. Hi.

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Speaker 1 (46:00):
Now on iHeartRadio, more of the Man in the Arena,
the Life Back Radio Show. Here again are Arthur Lee
and Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
We're talking about Carson comment.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
Soft Hands. It was amazing.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
So I don't know if the radio audience Ray is
going to be joining us in a second. But the
advertisement that doctor Ben Carson does for it's just so
heartfelt and so genuine and so honest, and it's such
an honor. But let us wait, no, further mister three thousand,
mister ray Preby.

Speaker 9 (46:33):
Hey, hey, hey, what a great topic, guys. I love it,
absolutely great topic.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
All right, buddy, you're on the spot. What are your techniques?
I mean, you have had numerous children in your life
from various areas.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
I'll say so.

Speaker 9 (46:46):
Yes, yes, we have a big household, five kids.

Speaker 11 (46:50):
You know, we have adopted kids, we have our kids.
We you know, it's a very blended household. Number one,
we always have dinner at the table, no phones, absolutely
no phones. So we sit down, we have a meal
and we talk. And of course, in today's world, you
have to force your kids to talk. My wife when
I came up with you know, besides the how was

(47:12):
your day it was? Tell me something good, tell me
something bad, and tell me something about your day. Can't
just say oh, the day was good and move on. No,
what was good about it? What was bad about it?
And of course we usually get oh, lunch was good,
well great? What about lunch? Who did you sit with?
What did you guys talk about? Was it a big crowd?

Speaker 9 (47:32):
You know? Who was involved?

Speaker 11 (47:33):
Again, so you continuously have to dig and dig and
dig in today's world when they're so wrapped up in
their phones, and you know, all they want to do
is text or TikTok or what.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Did you think of the Carson's basically a topic meaning
a proverb and saying.

Speaker 9 (47:51):
Love it, Absolutely love it.

Speaker 11 (47:54):
And it was funny because as I was listening to that,
I came up with a new idea that I'm going
to start the school year with my kids. I want
them to compare their day to a Bible verse. It
was good compared to something in the Bible. It was
bad compared to something in the Bible. We are a
very devout Christian household, and it goes beyond going to
church every Sunday. We pray together, we talk together, we

(48:16):
worship together. We you know, we bring our problems and
our praise to God on a daily weekly basis. I
find it extremely important to build that foundation.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
The cool thing that I thought about Ben Carson and
me and you saying, give me an open topic, but
it'd be the interpretation, how does that make you think
or feel?

Speaker 9 (48:40):
Exactly, Kim, We're glud of that.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
One, you know, And I think it would stimulate and
I think for us too write they may say something.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
Look, I had early on with life that I met.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
A doctor and he was also a neurologist, and I
gave my life back and he looks at real quick
and he goes, this is genius.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
And I'm like, you're like a brain surgeon.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
It's like, yeah, so the outside of the box with
a genius never thought of just using a sink plunder.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
So I think that there's that exists.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
If we present them with a topic or a psalm
or something, they may come up with something that we
never even thought of because they are they are seeing
different things.

Speaker 9 (49:23):
So it's amazing.

Speaker 11 (49:25):
And I've had these conversations you know with my kids,
what does what does that mean to you?

Speaker 9 (49:29):
That I love that, Yeah, because it's really open.

Speaker 11 (49:32):
It gives them the ability to think, and it also
gives it gives their impression their opinion on something that
you have an opinion on, and it could be completely different,
you know. When you share that topic, when you share
that information, it creates such a foundation for your family
that you can build on.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
Yeah, and you may you know, we'll learn something, you know.

Speaker 9 (49:55):
Oh absolutely absolutely, you know.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
And I was the theory.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
It's particularly surrounded around neurological diseases because they're electrical, right,
It's an electrical problem, and we have this realm of
people that keep massaging similar answers or techniques. And I'm
always curious if you know a computer guy or an
electrician or a physicist, if someone else was in the conversation,

(50:24):
if they might go, you got a short and they
go what, And they go, you need a little duct
tape And the doctor says that'd be x y Z
again and he goes, yeah, what are you guys talking about? Right,
we have to not be afraid to get out of
the box. So we present a psalm to you know,
a ten year old. We might be like, oh, and

(50:44):
he may create answers we never knew or uncovered problems
that we don't even know are they are because we
never did that. We were ten that was packed out
of the house, seeing Bayden, the street lights come on.
You know, hope you live, You live.

Speaker 11 (50:57):
You know. Some of the conversation that you can have
with kids are just absolutely mind blowing. They're not afraid
to share their opinion and they're not afraid of what
people think. So it's when they give you their opinion,
it's wholehearted opinions on how they think. And as an adult,
you can sit back and say, wow, I would have
never thought of that, too afraid to think.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Along the lines of Ben Carson's kids being brought up
in this world and being very successful and him relying
on this. I've met your kids. I love them. They're polite,
they're fun, they are conscientious. They are what kids are
supposed to do. Like you said, Pat, you know, you
go and you introduce yourself, and there is a connection
to that. And I thought you would get a kick

(51:42):
out of today's discussion. That's why I wanted to bring
you on a little early.

Speaker 9 (51:46):
And I absolutely love it. I do.

Speaker 11 (51:48):
And again, I think it falls back a lot on
old school raising. You have to teach your kids how
to present themselves, how to act around people's houses.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Mister, it's note to the numbers.

Speaker 11 (52:03):
Six hundred and forty three children. Oh and by the way,
it's four three twenty three saves. We had another save,
so we have five saves today alone.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Wow, in the last minute. If you have a save
of the week, I.

Speaker 11 (52:21):
Do have a highlight of the week. And oh it's
a good one. Good Samaritan and Ems worked together a
four year old girl in Texas who choked on a
hot dog, resulting in total obstruction. The patient was unconscious.
BLS protocol was followed. On the second application of life back.
It successfully dislodged the obstruction and the patient received medical

(52:43):
attention with no complications.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Found that four year old wove it.

Speaker 11 (52:49):
A four year old I got. I got a quick
bit to that. I was at a Fourth of July
event at a park up the street. The family of
a little girl was sitting next to me. The family
started the panic. She was blue and not breathing. EMUs
responded quickly as they were on scene for the emergency.
During the event, they attempted to disload the obstruction, but

(53:10):
we're having difficulty. I ran in my car, grabbed my
life back and gave it to the first responders.

Speaker 9 (53:18):
They saved her. I thank God for life back.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
Oh that's appropriate. It's got my hand on the Bible.

Speaker 9 (53:25):
Life back.

Speaker 11 (53:26):
Better to have it and not need it than need
it and not have it. The life you save could
be your own. Love you guys, work.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
And Danielle the nursing Home Warrior. So we'll be back
next week. I'm Rick. I'm with Arthur lee ceo, in
ventor of life back. On the man in the arena.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
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