Reviewing the Book "Sorry, Can't Is Still Alive"

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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then the world's success Leaves Clues will explore each chapter
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to be inspired. Welcome to the Man in the Arena.
I'm Rick Thatcher with the CEO inventor of Life Back,
Arthur Lee, and also Pad O'Rourke. Wow, nice, good, interesting show.
Now we should say this right at the outset. We're
taping on a Thursday night, in New York. So this
show will probably air going out live on Facebook and YouTube,

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but people around the country are not going to hear
it for another few weeks. So we don't want to
appear insensitive to anything that may or may not have happened, right,
so we can only talk about things that we know
to be true today. Arthur, welcome back, Pat welcome back.
We were both all three of us down in part
of a great big Life Back. Brian Kilmead, History, Liberty

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and Laughs tour party.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Best show yet, no doubt about it.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Wow, And you've been You've been to a lot of them.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
I have, and I've been blessed to do so. And
it was cool to have all our first respond to
friends there and it was a thank you to them.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
We were in Jacksonville, Flower.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah it wasn't snowing like it is here, but it was.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
Eighty degrees nice.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
But yeah then and people in Florida, thank you very much.
And you're big part of it. What a great showing
of support from Life Fact but also the supporters, the
team that you have not only from up here in
New York, but also the network that is down in Florida.
And we're going to speak to one of those, well
both of them, but in particular Shane Forsman we're going

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to talk to in a few minutes. But you know, Pat,
I'll start with you. We've done over twenty of these
shows that we do, History, Liberty and laughs. Brian kill
Me grew up with them. Unbelievable broadcast. Unbelievable man, Well,
the twenty shows. The word on the street is this
was one of the best.

Speaker 6 (02:31):
I think, you know, the energy from the election, how
the show runs. It was down in Jacksonville. Bryan owns
a house down there. It was a home game for him,
a lot of his friends already of course, brought out
seventy eighty people from my back that didn't hurt. It
was a good crowd with good energy, and you know,
they were ready for us, and it was a very
good time.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Did you guys feel that it.

Speaker 6 (02:51):
Was Yeah, definitely, I'm close close, you know, but yeah,
it was very much.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Though some of your new material was great. Thought that
your set was really uh, smooth and funny. Yeah, not
like usual.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Well, well we've had Arthur was there for Las Vegas,
and let's be honest, poor Pat, technically, yeah, technically we
were getting uh well he was.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
I always say I said it to you. You would abandon
the arena.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
You would have man in that day, flat squirrel. Oh yeah,
you were all of Mike. Mike had an echo and
I said, I can't leave the stage until they fixed this.
Brian can't come out to this.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, but I was, well, it was he took the hits.
I mean that he's a wig man. That was his job.
I mean it was you know. Afterwards, I thought it
was fun because you would.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
Die after Yeah, get off. It hurt my ears.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
It's too loud.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Shut up, move it down, move it up.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
Now we can't hear you.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah. Oh god.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
So in an arena that we hadn't been in before,
we uh suffered some technical difficulties with the sound and
it started with me. Didn't get much better. But Pat,
you were, as you said, Arthur, taking it for the team.
So to make sure that Brian, because let's retrace our
steps a little bit spelled out for the audience.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
We take part in the show.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
We help Brian kill me who doesn't need any help,
but we help them bring history to life with these
little historical sketches right through his six history books, to
start with George Washington, we go to Thomas Jefferson, we
go to Andrew Jackson.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
He's taken history and he's adding some humor, he's adding
some fun. He shows his story of perseverance. I mean,
if you're out there listening, you everyone to either see show.
It's really a great show. And it's not just a
history show. You know. It shows what his career was
like to fight through the adversity and to come out

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on top. And I really think it's beautiful that he
is you guys, his high school friends to kind of
enjoy it a little, enlighten it out. You know. I
remember Miss Davis and falling asleep in solid studies class.
You know, I thought I was going to die from
yawning to death. So it really is a fun way
to learn hidden pieces of history that were so significant

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would get no credit. So you're out there listening Brian
kill Me show, you can't go wrong.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, go to Brian Killme dot com. I think the
next show is in March.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
Second Saint Louis. Yeah, but actually, how the original origin
of the show.

Speaker 6 (05:23):
Brian used to uh, he used to do the show
at like book signings and whatnot. And he said, you
know I would just come out and I just I
just wanted more energy at the beginning of the show,
and he thought this all up and he's like, I'll
get my friends to come in, just get the place going.
And then then for a while it was just us,
and then he would just do his his report on
each book, and then he said to us, I want
you to start doing skits in the middle of these books.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
And we thought you out of your mind.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
First, he said, actors.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
I think we're going to get actors to act out
I could hire.

Speaker 6 (05:54):
We are to keep we're trying to keep the budget
a certain level. But we did one the first time,
and then the next time he goes, I want to
do let's do three.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
Me and Rick like, oh god, and now we do
six six book.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Look being in the audience, I get a different perspective
and I see the energy change knowing his unqualified friends
are coming out, so it changes the move. It makes
it lighten up, and it's enjoyable to see it. In
you know, the anachronism and all that.

Speaker 6 (06:20):
We basically take one scene from each book and Reck
and I act out as Thomas Jefferson and William Eaton
in one you know, all different characters and we're awful,
but it's it's all in fun in.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
A good way. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
But it makes the audience, Yeah, and it makes them
kind of re engage in the you know, lighthearted.

Speaker 6 (06:38):
He said to Brian, we go you know, we're like,
are you sure you want to do one for each
Skit isn't one enough?

Speaker 5 (06:42):
And now he's like, no, they love it. They want
you to come back.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah, so I can tell you from the audience it
makes it a lot more fun and you know, stops
you from the audi to death like and missus Davis.

Speaker 6 (06:51):
Like he said, he goes, I didn't want to do
a book report. I want to entertain people.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
And from our perspective, you know, talk about a guy
talking about these six books from his memory. He's got
amazing he's got a PowerPoint with pictures but no script,
and we learned something new every time.

Speaker 6 (07:10):
No with with him though, He'll like he'll pull out
another character in one of these books. I'm like, how
does he remember that? And he doesn't have any books
in front him. He's just talking, he's rehearsing his part,
and he goes, oh yeah. Then this guy, this general
came in and said and you're like I get every
time he and Rico.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
This guy has a rehearsal, and I was amazed because
he was just kind of going through it nothing right
because that of his head. I think my head's gonna explode.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Now.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Let's uh, we got cheating.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Yeah, so you are there. This is like guy, you
are there, Shane Foresman.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
We could bring on exactly, but we decided to go
with Shane Shane Foresman, Pensacola, Florida, Motorcycle Riding Events of
America dot org. Still the longest that I know of
the longest website name.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Shane Foresman. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Hey, what did you guys have a good time or
what give me?

Speaker 7 (08:00):
We had an absolute blast. Yes, sir, thank you for
having us down there.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
You bet you bring the part? He brings the part.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Are you in the back of a cop car?

Speaker 7 (08:10):
Negative?

Speaker 4 (08:10):
I'm in the front seat of my truck.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Okay, that's better, a lot better. Yes? What so? What
what was the I mean? I thought the time in
between was really cool too, where we were all together
at that restaurant.

Speaker 7 (08:24):
It was amazing camaraderie.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
We had a blast. Everyone really enjoyed themselves.

Speaker 7 (08:29):
They couldn't believe that, you know that y'all took that
good care of us.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
They were very in awe.

Speaker 7 (08:34):
They were like, oh my goodness, this is great, so
greatly greatly appreciated.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
I love the picture of all you guys in your
life back jackets down that whole roll like that made
me very proud and grateful. You went back to the
hotel and tell me a little bit about that. Because
I saw the picture, I haven't got to talk to you.

Speaker 7 (08:51):
So, yes, sir, we went back. Y'all made a donation
to Jacksonville Sheriff's office in the jail for some life
back so they can put the test with their training department.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Chief Rostivo was very gracious.

Speaker 7 (09:05):
He was very grateful of y'all's gracious donation to the
agency and department. And like I said, he has two
thousand sworn deputies and officers that here soon hopefully will
be making that large purchase.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
I love this. So what's coming up too? You got
a whole bunch of stuff coming.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
Off, yes, sir.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
So when I was down there, I brought up to you.

Speaker 7 (09:24):
If you remember we talked about here in Santa Rosa County,
our medical director of Santa Rosa County. Doctor Landry got
in touch with a battalion fire chief in Pace, Florida
here and he said they would love to have life
Facts on every single ambulance they have here in Sant
Rose County. So Miss Arthur was like, you know what
y'all need to sponsor for that, let me make the donation.

(09:45):
So Lifevac is doing the donation for every single ambulance
here in Santa Rose County.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Amazing and Arthur, I mean, she never ceases to amaze us,
the generosity and the work.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
You know, we saved the kid today, We've saved a
couple of lives today. It's all priceless. So but we
need men in the arena and like Chain that's out
there swinging right, and the thing I love about him
and his team and they're such enthusiasm. That's the simplicity
of what we're trying to do. You say, go there,
you got to catch up already left right.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
So we got enforcement Shane Weddell, Chuck Townsend. Correct. Now,
how far back does it go?

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Because it feels like not too long ago became close connected.
I know you were at the three thousand Live Saved party.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
You and the team and.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
So tell us a little bit about motorcycle riding events
of America.

Speaker 7 (10:40):
So we got started approximately three years ago, you know,
a group of first responders sitting around at dinner table
wanting to put on a charity ride of some sort
to help the first responding community when they're in need.
How are we going to do this? So we just
kind of started a think tank that night at a
dinner table, and.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
We're like, we got to create an LLC.

Speaker 7 (11:00):
And then the idea got brought up, we have to
create a nonprofit because nobody wants to write a personal
check to myself for somebody else. They wanted tax exemption.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
Now, knowing you guys, I'm sure some beers were involved.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
In Yeah, yes.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Sir, a few mixed drinks, you know.

Speaker 7 (11:16):
But uh, you know, those were the best ideas of
born At, as you will know. Now we do charity
rides all across the whole Panhandle of Florida, and like
I said, we're making our way across the coast, agency
by agency, department by department.

Speaker 8 (11:30):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (11:30):
We have donated with sponsors and assistance from Life At.
We have done over five hundred life backs so far
across the state of Florida. So we're gonna keep on
pushing till every single school in the state and every
first responder has one.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Well, you know, I got to tell you, I think
I may be the only charity writer in Pensacola, Florida
that almost froze to death because he can bite me
to them one and it knows. The one day we
were riding, it was like we say that people like, well,
everyone was.

Speaker 6 (11:59):
Saying last week, I'm sa, you weren't here last week.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
Yeah, I guess what we could do?

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Go in Jacksonville, and I like to say I did
a ride. Oh yeah, yeah, we were freezing.

Speaker 7 (12:09):
Well, if you remember correctly before that missed Arthur, we
we got hurricaned out. Was a hurricane or something some
massive storm cancer.

Speaker 6 (12:18):
Do you have the gear for that, like if you
had to went to gear up here though, right, you
don't bring it down to Florida.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Well, my problem was that I had a high handled bike,
so my hands it was like you know, g I, Joe,
he's just got a hold, yeah, grip, but you got
they were a mede. They got me a bike, they
got me a place to day, and we donated to
the Pensacol Police department and some of their riders came.
Those guys are phenomenal, but it's just the spirit. I mean,

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chain organized that. We had a death in Pencacle. Last
time I was there was because child died. I went
back and we donated units to stop it. So for me,
it was a full circle moment, even though it was freezing.

Speaker 5 (12:58):
But they're the most generous people, the bike people, right,
no doubt.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Now did you know johnes Valero? Did he introduce us
to you? Is that how it works?

Speaker 7 (13:11):
So that that is how it all started, mister Rick
is Uh, I did a walter Bridge with mister John,
and uh we got a talking and he saw that,
you know, we were doing some stuff of life back
and he's, oh, I know, mister Arthur, let me put
you'all two in.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Contact with each other.

Speaker 7 (13:26):
I'm like, and at first, you know, I'm a cop,
so I'm skeptical. I'm like, yeah, this guy's you know, no,
there's no way whatever, you know, what kind of spam
I'm about to receive my Facebook stuff, you know? And uh,
he's like, no, here's mister Arthur. I'm like, I believe
when I see it. Uh, And now everything has come
around full circle and it and is absolutely a godwin.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
We are blessed to be in your presence tonight and always. Shane. Uh,
it's just an honor.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
I know. I speak for Arthur and Pat when we're
just so proud of all the work that you guys
are doing, and we'll continue to do advocating for life acting,
you know, things that we didn't even get a chance
to talk about. You know, it's not just live facts
down there in Florida. You guys are just doing tremendous,
tremendous things.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
And good people doing good things.

Speaker 5 (14:07):
Absolutely great man, keep it up.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, brother, Well, thank you.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Shane Forsman, thanks for having me. All right, I love
the y'all. That's Shane Forsman again here with Arthur Lee,
Patrick o'roone, and stay with us.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
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Speaker 1 (16:23):
Now on iHeartRadio more of the Man in the Arena
the l Life Back Radio Show. Here again are Arthur Lee
and Rick Thatcher and.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Patrick O'Rourke, massive people comedy legend from time to time.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Arthur, we talk about.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
A character, if you will, the slightly miffed guy before
we Before we start and get into it, I have
to say that you have every right to be incensed.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Well, I think that you know, we could deviate from
the book as a talking topic when something is really
important or current or whatnot. But this segment about the
knockoff is the evolution that people aren't aware of right
and how it goes right to our US Patent office,
right right, So I think it's important that I'm the

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man in the arena. We're the man in the arena.
I'm not saying what happens. I'm not mister Wonderful saying yes,
people get knocked off. I'm telling you we got knocked off,
and telling you what, how it happened, and what is happening,
not making it up, not an independent rep discussing the
problem and then going home and eating a sandwich. So
the theory and what I've learned is do you guys

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have a win here in the city ever?

Speaker 6 (17:32):
Sugar brack off guy of course used to buy him
watches and and scarf from my mother.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
Yeah right, yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
So the funny story is, do you guys know Tommy Tommy.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Sure, Tommy pro everybody?

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Oh yes. So he was, uh, you know the wannab
eighties Gordon Gecko dude. Right, So he shows me his
rolex and he goes check this rolex out, man, I said, whoa,
you got it's a fake.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
But you can't tell the difference.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
As he said the word difference, the crown on the
twelve fell into the bottom of the watch and started
rolling around, and I I was like, that's a bog buddy.
We laughed. And but in those days, to get that
knockoff and a Magan China ship it in, someone in
here had to get it right. They had to get

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it and have a wearouse, and then they had to
get guys to go out and sell them on the street.
You caught it on the street, you probably could go
back and get the warehouse and put them out, right.
So that was the historic knockoff bags watches. But it
was a relatively small problem, right, because you had to
have the network of distribution. Right. So here comes the internet,

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Here comes Amazon, Here comes Facebook, Here comes Instagram, Here
comes TikTok. Okay, huge difference, right, this is where it
grew up. So now what happens is they're watching Instagram, TikTok,
Amazon sales. You sell something, it takes off the copy it,
send it to Amazon. They take your advertising and duplicate it.

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So they copy your product and you're advertising can't tell
the difference a little cheaper. What's the problem, right, you
have the pattern?

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Huge?

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Okay? Well the problem even if it is something with
a pattern, you can't go after them. They're in China, right,
So your patent's.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Worthless on average.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Right. The other thing is there's no accountability, right, they're
not here. They used to be here. You grab the
guys selling the watch and you throw them in jail.
That guy's gone. So whatever they want to pick and
missed the wonderful Larry he said, and he's about right. Yeah,

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when a product hits about a million on any form
any platform, if you get over a million views on
a product, or they watch the Amazon sales, they're not
going boom.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Well, you were talking about grossly under estimate of that
number of your neighbor whose daughter created a successful T
shirt couldn't have gotten the.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Flu, and you know she made it a bunch of
people like that. They saw two days later it was
on Amazon for sale, knocked off, no patent or infringement.
But it's basically worthless because you can't do anything with
it anyway. Amazon says, we don't get involved in patent.
That's your problem. Go after them, you could, because if
they were here, you go after them for patent infringement,

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you get three times the sales. They're not here, right,
and your attorney says you're going to soon try to
forget it worth it? Well, even if you did do
it and you won, they disappear with something else.

Speaker 5 (20:37):
There's a billion of them. Yeah, exactly. How does if
you're a one million guy, there's a million people.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Just like you, how does this platform or or outlet
called apex help in our efforts or any company's efforts
to take things down on that platform.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Let's just take this a little bit further for sure.
So now they have this mechanism to record what you're
selling and to put it in here scott free from
any form of ramification. So this system is now in
the fifty higher. Now fifty five percent of sells on Amazon,
seventy seven percent of new source are are Chinese, which

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you sit there. Historically, the reason you made in China
because the cheap labor, so you could make something cheaper.
The reason now, because it's automated. We can make this
stuff here. It's a machine that punches it out. The
reason now is the company here that originated. If it's
a medical product approved, it's ten years, eighty million dollars.

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If you're here, you have to be liable, you have
to be conscious, you have to follow regulations, and you
got to advertise. So they lose all that cost. So
they wait till you advertise and you spend the research
and development and you get it up and working. Then
they're not copy it copy you're advertising.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
They take a likeness of you and your door.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
There a bit on their sites.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
Even the ones. I've seen.

Speaker 6 (22:02):
The colors the same the email I sent you about
you know, yeah, some vivavac or something.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
Yeah, same color, same set up.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
You know. Oh they play our video. They played raised video.
It's ruthless, but it makes it more and more difficult
for the public to know. And the thing is really
the price. Now they've crept their price up and they
actually start advertising. Don't buy a knockoff. It's amazing, right,

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But here's so we say, okay, you know, obviously that's
not good. Then the arena we make a medical product, right,
so we are regulated by the FDA, and we have
to follow these guidelines. We have to prove proof they don't. Right.
So yesterday there was one on there said FDA approved
with the logo. I would buy that one.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Right.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
So now they are able to not only take all
our data and information, but because skate on all these
regulations and rules, a lot cheaper and they can put
up advertising that I can't right because I'm not allowed.
They will come in. They've been in my place twice.
They'll be there tomorrow if I put up FDA proof.

(23:16):
So we have this really bad situation. It gets worse
with us. What happened was, so we become successful. We
started saying, they start knocking off. It's great, but it's
so big. They actually went and got my patent duplicated.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
We were going to talk about this, this is insane.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, but if this is the case, we have.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
The paperwork right here.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
We have your patent right which was filed in twenty
fourteen and it.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Took about four and a half years.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
And then talk about the search that if someone's going
to file a patent for a similar device, what would
they have to go through?

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Well, I always get and we just got it on
that podcast, and I said, don't bother get one. And
when you asked about pattern and many years ago I
did this. I invted a bike that went on the
water and go on your rack. It was kind of cool.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
You fit in the trios.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
No, So the first thing you do if you have
an idea that you want to get you think is
great and it's patentable, it's search like crazy. The Google
in the Internet is fantastic now because you can kind
of do a patent search. Back then, you had to
pay an attorney, sent described to Washington, DC, went in
through the archives and tried to find things that are similar.

(24:31):
It's kind of cool experiment because back in the day
they found bikes from like eighteen sixteen and stuff that
was similar to money. So that's your first step, patent search.
Does it exist right? If it does, see if it's patented,
because then it's not patentable, well used to unless you're Chinese.
Then you can get a patent on anything. Obviously, now

(24:51):
is the new world. So the first step is that
does it exist right? So in twenty fourteen we followed
the our patent and four and now there was a
lot of back and forth, of course, and it's expensive,
we pay your attorney. They said it's similar to this.
You got to prove why it's not, and back and forth,
back and forth, and finally they said, okay, you were right.

(25:14):
Here's your United States patent four.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
And a half years right.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
And then in twenty one do we got here, what's
the name LUGII of a. It's in Chinese, so I
don't know how to pronounce exclamation points, backslash. They they
applied the same.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
Patent in twenty one, right during the pandemic, right, and they.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Were fortunate enough to get primary examer just teem you
why you yea? How lucky was that? Eh? How lucky?

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Now opposite of a godwin? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Well, I guess you know. It's nice that Chinese got China.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
But interesting you would think that this is the United
States Patent Office, right, and a lot of filing fees, right,
a lot of fees, and the part which is so
much easier these days than it was probably back in
two thousand and forty. Well, I was probably easy in
twenty fourteen two. But it's amazing to me that these
quality individuals these experience.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
It's not really amazing, That's what That's the primary way
you go with. It's something's up.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
But how did they miss it? How did they message like.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Chinese and they owned the patents? It's the only explanation,
because here's why. It's pretty simple. You know, I described
you google first, you do it yourself. I did it.
I didn't find anything. I wouldn't have tried to get one.
I knew enough that if it was patterned. I would
either contact them and say I'd like to work with
you or buy it or deal with it, or I
wouldn't do it and I just buy whatever it was
out there. So in eight seconds of a Google, right,

(26:43):
they would have seen it. So it's not it didn't
even try it. Well, because we've been on national television,
we had sold millions, we had been on buying, we
had been on inside this, we were public, right, so
you can't miss it. Right. So somehow in their detailed search,
and that's in the right side of any patent, it'll
say things that they examined that were similar, right, And

(27:06):
they said, we researched everything and these things came up,
but they're similar but not significant. So we're okay, my
name's not in there. That means they didn't even find
it in their detailed search. So they're watching me on
TV as they're trying to figure out if this is patentable.
So amazingly they didn't notice that. And the other really

(27:29):
wonderful thing. I guess if you're Chinese and you apply
for the exact same thing as an American made patent,
it took me a year and a half. How's that possible, right,
So fast Track not only did they miss what was
on TV as they were doing their search, they miraculously
were able to process this one in high speed amount

(27:49):
of time.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
And we got a shout out to Justine are you
but also Kelsey B. Baller assistant examiner because not only
did miss you miss as the primary examiner, she had
an assistant and then a law firm.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
Now this is their law firm.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
I don't know, but here's the thing it's turned. Well,
first off, the applicant has due diligence. He's supposed to
make sure you're not trying to patent something that's.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
A New York address, by the way, So.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
He's supposed to do his own. Now, he's not an expert.
Law firm is not supposed to just take something that's
not patentable. Their obligation is to say, you know, I know,
Rick's a great idea, but it exists. So we're not
going to take your money and go try and get
a patent on something we could. But ethically, in the
in their legal responsibility is to not say I want

(28:41):
to patent a pencil And you're like, dude, it was
like being online at shark tak with all these crazy
people who.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
You know, it kind of exists already, Yeah, happens.

Speaker 6 (28:50):
That's I mean, this is like the Mike Lindell might
pillow if you made another one. Oh, we didn't notice that. Yeah, yeah,
you're not noticing life back.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
It's all over the place, right, But that's when that
the cracks of the mistake come to light where you
couldn't claim we missed it.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
I think air quotes mistake.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yeah yeah, hey, radio audience.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
A quotes going, there's arcasm y yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Hey.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
By the way, you listen to a powder of Work
with Thatcher and Arthur Lee. You're listening to the man
in the arena and we're talking about the insane situation
that exists, and the fact that you're not more frustrated
is amazing. The fact that these folks in the in
our patent office didn't even try to look.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
But let's think about the bigger picture of this unknown entity, right,
who knows that this is going on? Like when I
said don't bother again in the patent and you saw
her face, she was like, what are you crazy? I'm like, seriously,
you have to be very conscious whether it's worth it,
because even if it's not a medical product, and you
don't you know, you get a patent. It is worth

(29:54):
this because they'll just copy it and put it into Amazon.
There's a solution, but it involves action by the people
who are getting paid by the people who steal your pattern,
so it's hard to get them to stop this. Hopefully
we have a new world and we will have a shot.
But here's the bigger picture. Think about this. If they
can do that to me, right, and they say this

(30:16):
is significant. So if you make a toy thing, they
just steal it and get as much money as they can.
When you go out of business, they probably go out
of business because they don't want to pay for the
market that we ruin their profit margin, so they let
you market it. It's cannibalization, right. They eat as long
as they can. They crush you. You'll both die, the
host does. If it's significant and it's big enough, that's

(30:38):
when they take this route, right and think about that. Yeah,
then they officially get a patent so they own it.
But what if it's a military secret, what if it's
a medical breakthrough like this, what if it's an industrial advantage?
They come in and steal it in X amount of years.
We don't own anything significant, right, we have patents on
Yo yo's and things that no one cares about, because

(31:01):
it looks to me they only pick strategically to get
this level of corruption. Right, may some small they just
steal it, putting Amazon laugh, you make something significant, they
pulled the patent card, right, but any recourse, Well, we
went after the patent office and they said no, we

(31:23):
don't think so, so we're going to go after him.
We're going after him again, but we can't even get
to court till twenty six, so they get free carp launch. Yeah. Right.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
It reminds me of an Indian pharmaceutical company I was
promoting for Merk and Mark's a fairly good company worldwide.
They just decided to launch and produce a product called
CID of Glipton genuvia. And they realized they were in
clear violation of patents. They just said, it's going to
take you a long time.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
We'll just sell as long as we.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
Get yeah, And it was all just very gentlemanly and understood.

Speaker 6 (31:56):
It is ridic twenty more months until you can do anything.
That's twenty months of them with the hand in your pocket,
and then you do catch them, Like you said, they
go into the vapor.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Youah, but think about the extended second half of that.
So since you know they have that now, but they
go on Facebook, marketing teep whatever they want and say
they're after they approved, they have clinical data. Look at
it saved. There was one today said they saved ten
thousand lives. Ten thousand lives they even existed. We saved

(32:27):
six the first year. But we are honest. But the
ability to own this without any rules of regulations, being
able to say whatever you want, we are doing. But
the bigger pictures, when I'm saying, is why it's a
threat to national security right right, You come up with
a new missile system, you get a pattern, they steal it.
Now they own it, and you can't make it. They

(32:49):
can and if you want to make it, you got
to pay them.

Speaker 6 (32:51):
That's why the military is always so worried when a
plane goes down, where did it go?

Speaker 10 (32:54):
Do?

Speaker 6 (32:55):
And they have detonation Now they blow up their own planes.
So these guys can't get their hands on this stuff.
I used to do up four you were blowing up everything.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
That's a whole nother.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Time we're gonna talk blow up.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
So I think we covered that already.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
I think read that We'll be back with more of
the man in the arena after this break.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
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Speaker 1 (35:12):
Now on iHeartRadio, more of the Man in the Arena
the Life Back Radio Show. Here again are Arthur Lee
and Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
We're talking about patent issues, knockoffs, counterfeits, They're all intertwined
and it's a horrible scenario. And I want to introduce
someone from the Life Bac family, Dono Marie DiGregorio, for
folks that might be listening to.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
Dona Marie for the first time.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Donnamory, you didn't come to Life Back to fight the
fight that you're fighting now.

Speaker 10 (35:41):
So I started originally as like a girl who is
going to do like social media and a completely backlash did.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
You do pick it back? Too? Were ever out there?

Speaker 9 (35:51):
First?

Speaker 10 (35:51):
I was packing and like like travel bags and like
ems kits and all that stuff and literature, and then
like one day Mike Singer was like, what are you doing?
It's like we need we need someone on this side
to help with At first it was with like Steve
like to do like some of the legal stuff, and
then like if you want to do social media? So
I was like sure, So I came over and it

(36:13):
took like a complete three sixty and I ended up
just taking over like all the legal takedowns of like knockoffs,
counterfeits and working with like lawyers twenty four to seven
to like help move this along. And I really had
to kind of be trained on it because I had obviously.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
No lot so you said today, how many macops you
say are out there right now, and how many of
you taken that?

Speaker 10 (36:34):
So globally like right now, we have like a software
company we use called red points that scans the entire
world like globally right now is about six thousand, and
that's including like UAE, Canada, Australia, every country you can imagine.
And I've probably I think I've taken down at least
at least more than that. So I think the number

(36:56):
like recently was like seven five hundred, and I've stopped
three million dollars in sales.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
And we didn't make a safety aspect of it.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
This is wrong from a business standpoint and a moral
standpoint with danger too.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
With us, it's a safety standpoint. For sure, someone's gonna
die because of this and they're not going to know
that they didn't get the right product. But as a
national security problem, it's that anything good is stolen and
then they take the next level and actually get a
patent too. So Donomry's out there swinging. But those numbers,

(37:30):
those are the numbered thousands, and it's every.

Speaker 10 (37:33):
Even the big ones, like we're working right now on
trying to get the big ones down, which is another process,
and there's like ways you kind of have to go
about it legally. But the APEX program on Amazon has
helped us significantly because it removed all of the Life
BacT lookalikes and even another brand that's on there without
having the brand name. So so far, I think this

(37:54):
week as of today, I removed twenty seven of those
off of Amazon in the last week, and I stopped
about fifteen thousand units per month being sold through all.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
But think about fifteen thousand units and they could kill
your kid, right, Yeah, ridiculous. But the other thing that
you know is to keep in mind that that's a
significant risk to the public's health. Now, we researched to
some extent that Amazon is a baiting embedding, a criminal
enterprise because in our world, if they steal your cup,

(38:26):
Amazon really criminal, right, you have a patent gig with them.
But in the medical world and with the drug you
were talking about, that's illegal, right, So Amazon is selling
and promoting it. Now, our goal is we want to
fight Amazon. This squash is like a bug. We want
them to know that what they're doing is illegal, right,
because they're supporting an illegal products called eighty and the beedding.

(38:49):
So we've tried that and you know it doesn't work,
but that's like everything we do. But it will because
we never quit.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
Right.

Speaker 6 (38:57):
The part wher it takes so long, that's that's the
part that it shocks me. Well, the problem was immediately.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
The problem with this route is trust me even down
this road when you get there. The federal judge tends
to go with the federal agency. But if we can
raise awareness, right, not just for us. See, this would
be my battle. If I made a pocketbook, I wouldn't
be talking about it. It's my problem. I'll deal with
it now we've dealt with it. But when they stole

(39:24):
the patent, I said, this is a country problem. It's
a bigger picture, right, because if it's big enough technology, industry, medical, military,
they're stealing and then eventually they will own us without
us knowing it at all. Very few people know that.
Fifty percent of the guys selling on Amazon and Chinese
and seventy of the new ones. Right, So we used

(39:46):
to go to the mall and bike junk. They got taxed.
It was in the US. It was important. People at
jobs they sell it. No text goes right out of
the country.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
So for the folks listening in LA, in Houston, Orlando,
and York and in addition to all of those folks
seeing it live tonight. What can the consumer, the customers
the Life factination do well?

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Very conscious first though, right to just research. It's very difficult.
Go to lifeback dot net in our case, and we'll
continue the battle. The second case is publicity and contacting
the Justice Department.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Right.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
If we get the Just Apartment to investigate the Patent office,
they got to explain to someone other than me why
they gave my exact patent to a Chinese company, right,
And it's harder for them to defend themselves because the
guy says, yeah, I saw it on TV. How did
you miss that?

Speaker 4 (40:41):
Right?

Speaker 3 (40:41):
And why is this Chinese company get it in a year?
It took you four? And how did you miss them?

Speaker 12 (40:48):
Right?

Speaker 6 (40:48):
So if that's the scenario, and that that's how it
works out, once they get caught caught, then you can
just say, oh, we'll seasoned desist and there's no penalty,
no nothing.

Speaker 5 (40:54):
They just want to.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Because they have a patent, can't go after them patent foment. Wow,
got cart blunched till we get that knocked out, but
on the bigger picture of being an American and making
it here because they don't make it here, and they
don't have to care if it kills you because you
can't sue them because they're in China, so they don't
have to worry about quality. You don't have to worry
about the tea, and I don't have to worry about recourse.

(41:17):
We what was some of those things? I bought it
and I wanted to return it and they just told
me no.

Speaker 10 (41:22):
Yeah, like people try to send them back and they
wouldn't even answer. Or one girl said she tried to
use it on her son because there was a popcorn
colonel lodging his throat and thank god it wasn't a
full obstruction, but she said that if she had to
use the device, it would have failed.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
Now you also done, Marie. You also buy, uh you
call them test buys.

Speaker 7 (41:41):
Yeah, test buys.

Speaker 10 (41:42):
It's like a test purchase, So you purchase one of
the devices from the knockoff of the counterfeit and you
kind of like look at it yourself and do your own.
Some platforms require a test buy, like Amazon does, so.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
You tested to prove that it's garbage.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
We get well she has you have to prove intellectual.

Speaker 10 (42:00):
Yeah, I have to I have to prove. But the
apex you have to prove it's infringing on our utility patent.
But if you if it's an exact life act look alike.
So the counterfeit is something that you can't tell the difference.
So people make actual life acts where you can see
it's like you would not know it's not a genuine
life act. You literally have to take it apart and
like look at like the valves and like the different

(42:20):
color screws and realize that it's not. And then you
can submit it through Amazon CCU with photos of the
test buy and they can help remove it.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
But in that process, the really wonderful new one is
they use a toxic glue. So not only this is
the ironic thing when it falls apart, the glupe can
come off from being a choking on it, so they
can actually sell you something that you choke to death
an't But luckily they're Chinese, so you can do whatever
they want.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Well, John, Marie, we appreciate you so much for all
that you do and continue to do a thank you.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Well, this kind of goes back to two like wingmen
and uh, you know, you know, like I tell you
the story about the butcher I you know, interviewed and
he couldn't do anything, but I knew he was good man.
She is that person. Yeah, oh yeah, she's she will
learn any she's our expert. She spoke in front of
an expert panel, and she was the star. And she

(43:13):
was in our warehouse. Two years ago.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
William Carnegie started as a clerk as a truck driver.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Do you have a drive truck?

Speaker 5 (43:20):
Carnegie?

Speaker 3 (43:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (43:21):
I was, Oh you were, but I'm saying a lot
of yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
Great people start out, you know, doesn't matter where you
sees this house.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
People see the talent, and that's where they you know,
well Sackleton, his interviews were thirty seconds, and he picked
the crew that survived the most unbelievable thing. And it
was all character. He was able to pick who could
persevere and hang in and get along and all that.

Speaker 5 (43:43):
Who wouldn't eat each other?

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Yes, that was that was not good on the shack,
that was forbidden.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
And who was that meat packer or butcher from pat
Yeah I heard about the butcher backed into the meat grinder.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
Yeah, he got a little behind in this work.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
He knew that was really bad.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
And on that note, we're going to be right back
after his message.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
You're listening to the man in the arena, We'll be
right back with mister Ray Breedy, Mister three thousand.

Speaker 11 (44:08):
I was in the living room when I heard my
son Carter, who was two at the time. I looked
over and myself him grabbing for his face is through.
I grab a life back. I put the mask on
his face and place push Paul the life back, dislodge
the ice cube.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
From his airway.

Speaker 11 (44:25):
When he started crying, the most amazing sound I've ever
heard in my entire life. Please protect your family, get
a life back. Hi.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
I'm Arthur, the inventor, founder and CEO of life Back,
and a proud father. Did you know choking is the
fourth leading cause of accidental death Tragically, one child dies
every five days. Now, imagine your child, your spouse, or
someone you love choking. You have only seconds to act.
It's a situation the one wants to face, but it

(44:54):
can happen to anyone. That's why I created life Back.
Life Back is a life saving way clearance device that's
already saved over three thousand lines. It's easy to use,
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every second counts. Don't wait until it's too late. Visit
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(45:15):
save twenty percent on your Life Back Home kit. That's
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between life and loss. Go to lifefac dot net and
get yours today.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Now on iHeartRadio, more of the Man in the Arena,
the Life Back Radio Show. Here again are Arthur Lee
and Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
We've been talking about some frustrating things for you.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Mister Lee. Oh, it's for our country. Other word, absolutely,
My f fights news the visibility because it will secretly
take us over. And there's it's that. I guess they
own our technology. They are owning thevation.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
With the old expression you don't even know you bleed
until you move good one.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
Where'd you get that from? My brother?

Speaker 5 (46:07):
Jimmy us the old time Jimmy Yes, he goes by,
they all go yes.

Speaker 6 (46:13):
Did you hear about their family get together? That sounded
like every summer the Yes. That's a whole other show.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Have you ever heard of it? Yeah, we should do
that on the show. It was so funny.

Speaker 5 (46:24):
Vacations.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Well, I've compared the old works to the Murray family.
That's what it reminds me of, Uhil Murray, Brian Doyle Murray. Okay,
because they're they're all funny, and they're they're all great guys.
And I've known Pat forever. I've known his older brother Kevin,
uh almost as long, if not longer.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
And a great family, funny family. His mom was hysterical.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Yeah, was he their comic?

Speaker 5 (46:49):
No, she was much more of a straight man.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
But she was a good shape man. Good shape, yeah, yep.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
And very funny.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
I remember what you wrote on your cast.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
I'm not gonna bore every it because we could do
the Birchland Alma Mater, or we could do what his
mom wrote on the cast.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
What was that you remember?

Speaker 2 (47:06):
He jumped up high, jumps up by you. You came
down and broke a bone. Baby, You ain't know, Moses Malone.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
You're serious.

Speaker 6 (47:16):
And he was a big player at the time. Yeah,
I mean, we'll tell I have a story about my mother.
We'll tell him another time we.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Get Yeah, waiting in the wings mister Ray Preby, he
saved his daughter Maya two at the time, on the
side of a Florida highway. It just so happened to
be our three thousand Life Saved and we joined him. Oh,
he joins us from Cape Coral, Florida.

Speaker 12 (47:41):
Mister three thousand, helleo America, and thank you for tuning
into Life Back television and radio.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Hey, I've been I've been so busy. I don't even
know where we're at. So I'm actually looking forward to
knowing because we got to start the four thousand. I usually, yeah,
we do every week.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
For those listening.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
We we talked to mister three K and he gives
us the update on Live Saved with the actual life fact.

Speaker 12 (48:03):
Just tonight, just an hour ago, Donna sent me a
text message with an update of a fifteen month old
baby that was choking on some berries who was saved
by the Life Back. So it is three thousand, five
hundred and seventy nine total saves, two thousand, two hundred.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
And forty kids.

Speaker 6 (48:24):
How about this week, Ray, this week we have all
this week.

Speaker 5 (48:29):
Twelve very good. We had like four on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Well, Ray does the math. We're gonna have to thank
Don Aym. She preps Ray each week and they love talking.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
To each other. Updated. So you got a do you
have a special one?

Speaker 11 (48:44):
Ray?

Speaker 12 (48:44):
I do have a special one all right. February eighteenth,
twenty twenty five, number three thousand, five hundred and seventy four,
and it also happens to be the two thousand, two
hundred and thirty six child saved is a one and
a half your old female that was choking on an apple.
Here's the details from the parents. She was having an

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apple for a snack in front of her parents and
started choking on her second bite. Mom is CPR certified
and a former EMT. She started to administer backlows, but
they were not effective. Dad retrieved the life back from
the kitchen. She started to turn pale and foaming at
the mouth. Mom used the life back and the apple

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was dislodged on the second try. I'm one hundred percent
thankful that I put this item on my baby registry
after seeing it online. I'm very happy we familiarized ourselves
with it prior to the incident. As time is so
precious in an emergency, we.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
Say, please get trained. You could do it right away.
The Red Cross is awesome and they recommend life back
if it doesn't work. Do you still get a chill
when you read that?

Speaker 12 (49:54):
Every one of the staves that I read or see,
it creates this memory, that feeling will never leave a parent.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
But I think we got to use that in a passion,
you know, and I know you do. And I'm so
grateful that God gave his shoes for three thousand. But
when I hear him, and I especially when I hear
the color teams I've seen three thousand and you know
it's sometimes were clear and you think maybe would have cleared,

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but the black and white ones. Man, when your color
is changing, you have minutes and to think that that
baby's still there, right, So you know what, We'll fight
everyone who kids, especially.

Speaker 12 (50:35):
That's why I'm here every single week because I know
if I didn't have it, the odds of Maya surviving
were slim to none.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Yes, hey, quick thing. Did you have fun in Pettico
and Jacksonville.

Speaker 12 (50:48):
I had the best time. It was a great weekend.
Imagine got for the first time. It was amazing and
Brian amazing, love love the entire show. I mean, I
don't know who he had for a cast. He might
want to work on maybe some some new actors in
the future shows. Just kidding guys.

Speaker 4 (51:09):
They were off.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Yeah you know now, Jeffson was that big.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
We've got to get that.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
That's where he said, you look a lot like Nathan. Yes, good,
that was so for me.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
But Ray give us your saying my friend.

Speaker 12 (51:24):
Okay, here we go. Well, I'm gonna give you this.
Since October twentieth when I got blessed with the ability
to save my daughter, that was one hundred and twenty
three days ago, we have five hundred and seventy nine
saved in one hundred and twenty three days. That is amazing.
And folks, life act have it and don't need it.
Your life could depend on it.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
Mister Ray Priby, mister three thousand.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
So the three thousand life save event, the actual number
was mister Ray Priby saving his door to Maya. Who's
I mean, they're they're all beautiful and cute, all kids are,
but Maya's is really special.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
He put he's putting it up and she came flying
across a trip.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
With Pete Row.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
She jumped up like right.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
But the other thing that I that impresses me is
that in the earliest interview with Ray, he said people,
He said something like his thought was people don't generally help.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
But in that case he was signed. Two other motors
on the Florida Highway came over to his car.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Anyone could, Yeah, so carry it. Save someone else. Absolutely go.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
Please go to Live fact dot net.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Don't mess around, don't We talked about knockoffs and counterfeits
and all that.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
Get the real one that's gonna be the one that
you know is going to work in an emergency.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Oh wow, cool, Live fact dot net.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Live fact dot net. Don't mess around, don't take chance
and get the gear and use the code. By the way,
use the code m I t A Stancerman in the arena.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
But m I T A get it.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Get yourself a discount fifteen percent off non sale items
code meta meta. So well, another great week, another great show.
I was concerned, but and I say set this up front,
you have every right to be incensed, not only because
of what they're doing in terms of a Patent with
Life Act, but the bigger picture, what they're doing to

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our cust share my tragedy.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
It's painful, but people got to know. Some poor guy
goes out there, spends his time money gets a patent
and gets crushed, So you got to know that's not
worth it. You need to be very conscious.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
You're lucky to have this platform. And how many people
have you started, that's my point.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
Totals Yeah, yeah, and the poor guy is sitting there,
So we have to face these things, we have to talk.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
About and we have to keep going. Yeah, so we'll
be back next week. I'm Rick.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
I'm with Arthur Lee, CEO and venor of Lifeact on
The Man in the Arena.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
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