Sorry Cancels a Lie

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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I'm Rick Thatcher with the CEO inventor of Life Fact,
Arthur Lee. Arthur you authored the book Sorry Can't is
a lie, I'm gonna say, within the last couple of years,

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but it really illustrates it's your path and also lays
out a blueprint for others that can create their own greatness.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
We kind of continued Can't as a lie the camp chapter, right,
so that's what we're talking about. But check this out.
I was thinking about this right so nowadays, you know,
we are the last generation that read a map, that uh,
memorized phone numbers, that how to make sure we brought
a camera and put film in it, knew how to

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do it, so good or bad, this is what the
world is. But the difference that I could see most
importantly is we had to learn things and pull from
our own index, right, So we didn't know how to
do something, We learned it and then we knew how
to do it, and with like back. Mike Singer was
so important because he knows so much. And I always

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sit there and I say, man, I wish, I wish
I could import your brain, not the weird stuff, but
the good stuff. Right, but watch this, watch this is
interesting to watch this. Do you know how to weld?

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yes? Do now to you a router? Yes?

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Do you know how to do wiring or electric? Do
you how to rebuild the motor? Do you have to
build furniture?

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yes? Yes? But when? But the difference is it's not me,
he says, I can google it. It's in there.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
So when we were approaching light back and I had
to glue together sink ponger, I went to Mic and
we could. My thought is to figure out something new,
you kind of have to pull from your resources, right
you You can't google a new suction device, right, So
that's where the where now when we bring in cants

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lie right, So I don't think I've ever heard you
say that word.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
No, no, right, no, it could be done.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
So you're listening to, just to set the stage for
our audience listening. You're listening to, of course Arthur Lee
CEO and inventor of life Back. We're joined in the
studio with Mike Singer Wingman Yes, and Patrick O'Rourke, who's
a staple here at Man Man about Town, an advocate
for life.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
I can't well, we are talking about can you do?
Certainly can'ild a motor? Well, there you go. You've met
I'm going to learn how to Yeah, it's not a
word a lie. Anybody can.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
But all of these conversations on the Man in the
Arena are going through the book that you wrote, Sorry,
Can't is a Lie, which is available at life fact
dot net.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Www. I don't even know what.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
If it's necessary anymore to throw those in, But you
go to life fact dot net and we have a
code m I T A which stands for the Man
in the Arena. You're going to get I think fifteen
percent of if there. It is for the folks viewing,
but if you're listening all across the country, which goes
out this weekend. Sorry, Canton is a lie, because if
you tune in each week, we're going to be talking

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about chapters one through twenty all from this book that
you wrote when you said you wrote it when when
you had a.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
Little bit more time.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Jack was in Florida and when I was flying back
and forth a lot, and you know, I'm not tactical savvy.
I don't not even get on my phone on the plane.
I don't care because I don't want to. So I wrote,
I write when I fly down, and wrote when I
came back because I was trying to figure something out
and I was laughing to some extent to where that
knowledge base came from.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
But so Mike was a guy that.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
When I came to him, you know a lot of people,
you can't do that, right, You can't.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
You can't test it, you can't it's not prolo cool.
You can't use it. All these cants, right and who
are those folks that were.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Already had those school system? But I mean, that's my
own town. But it didn't matter, because you'll see in
the Wingman chapter. You you got to get people around
you can do it. But for the listening audience right
to think about it, get rid of the word right.
That's the bottom line that we did in the first episode.
This applies more to life back part where that elimination,

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that work comes into full play, where it turned into
something very useful and is now say three thousand lives.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
So fill us in on how you and Mike Singer connected.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
Why do you tell us he's a great So I
actually uh had a trucking business right work with author,
doing air freight. So we we used to see each
other all the time in the in the in the warehouse,
and I used to actually go him the dancing Bear.
Everybody was dirty, sweaty, and it would be riding forss and
it always being nice and it sued and really clean,

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you know, clean, and we were again you know, it
wasn't nowhere drinking.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
We were lugging stuff into the truck.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
So yeah, but we always had like you know, we'd
always talk, but it was always about like pet project,
so always something like a project. So it was the
first one that I remember, and I stole the emails
because he was building a boat, like he was had
a boat that he was restoring and and he knows
the story well, because he couldn't figure out on this

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teak boat was these little white lines in between each
board like they caught the boat like an old mohogany boat.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
They the Lombardo.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
So after he put like a hundred coats of arms
every morning he would varnish. Yeah, he got the varnish thing. Yeah.
So I took a class.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
One day, I walk in and he's got a full beard,
and I'm like the dancing us.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
I'm like, weird. He's like going up to me and
gonna learn how to build boats. I'm like, look like
a bug, dude. Yeah, I'm like, okay where.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
It's kind of funny though, because I look like I
got there the so eighty on that whatever it takes, buddy,
I'm good.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
I'm good. Shout out to mister mom like one do
you like? No?

Speaker 3 (07:49):
No, but I got a cool cable sweater and I
have a boat.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Guy, But where was dancing bear tie into a well
dressed man?

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Terminology ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
It just the beginning of my But this is pre
life act and you let's let's not forget your uh.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
I was the time with the so we thank you
for that. We might have to have an episode just
the goofy stories.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
All right, yeah, so anyway, so anyway, so we used
to talk about now that he has a thousand coats
of barnis on the boat and we can't see the
corking anymore, how do we get the corking white?

Speaker 4 (08:29):
All these emails?

Speaker 5 (08:30):
It's cool, Coe, And then we were talking about how
we were going to route each line.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Each line we were going to route and then recork it.
So what we've been white and that's kind of where
we are.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
But you got to have some skill to use a
router in that type of specific environment or we're talking
about it skill.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
So once again, these are from our database.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Now my database limited day is so you go to
someone who's got a better database, right.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
So you recognize that right away. And at what point
in life Facts.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
I came running in with my glue together and said,
come on, will you do this.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
Tape and glue and I'm like, we're talked about this
to the FD with that, I'm like, there, you know
they're they're not gonna go at you, right, Let's let's
make that better.

Speaker 6 (09:20):
You know, like you said you can't go, you won't
say he said, you're not gonna go.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
I agree at this point.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
At this point, do you know of the philosophy I
knew it at all about removing camp amongst other things
that Arthur has.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
Maybe more from just removing.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Removing that word, like like he knew barriers or he
you know, didn't have that word.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
In his vocal No, I didn't know that he did it. Yeah, parent, yeah,
the bone.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, refreshmen memory because you did appear on the first
or second episode of Man in the Arena might have
been called live at that point.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
We can't be sure. We'll check the records.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, but I believe that you went home, uh and
you and Marie had a private conversation.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Is that true or is that someone else? No, I
don't not with the inn you well, I don't know.
She was Actually, she's pretty good. She was on board wed.
So fast forward slightly.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
When we were on our way, we ended up making
otom in in my basement, right, we were. We had
a full facility in the basement of my house.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
From the garage in the mind of Arthur Lee yep,
to the to the warners.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Yeah, closet n's and yeah, so I were in my basement.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
I still have a trucking business, so I'm still running
around doing trucking, and I would I would tell Marie
just make twenty five a day, like, just make twenty five,
because I come home to be none done.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Sorry.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
Yeah, so I think, just make twenty five, you know,
and then I come home they wouldn't be twenty five.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Then I was like, come on, just yeah, you got
behind you. You were actually halving. Then we were still
in my glue together.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, but what and once again you have
to remember the Cantons Live part right, and once again
it'll go into Wingman. But he didn't ever say we
can't do this right, not once. He said we need
to do this, we need to make a better valve,
we need to shape it right.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
So we would go back.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
And forth in the design, right, but I guess the
point of the future right he was pulling. He built
them on a lathe. He actually took and remember when
you burnt your hand, that was cool. But yeah, now
you have because you know what happens when you spin
something really fast and gets hot.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah yeah, yeah, trouble with the labor too. He took
shop in school. That was THEENTI yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
I ended up having Did you make the ball or
did you make another. I made a tyrack horns, I
guess I would. Do you still have it? I could
use something like the horns tyrack remember that? Do you
still have it? Probably somewhere?

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, amazing. Yeah I have the napkin holder. Didn't we
all make that?

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Can make sure a cigar box too, like a little wall.
Remember shop? Yeah, metal shop, metal shop, so bad.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Yeah, I was a metal shop and someone was drilling
something with the drove press and it got loose and
it was across the all the shop.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Different generation. I had the wall. I got electric like
fifteen times. Thank god you're teaching us, remember Walsh and Colonna,
mister Colonna.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
But I realized the importance of the template being in
the absolute center.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
Of the bowl.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Oh yeah, intersection because I was a little off and
when I applied the I don't know what it would
be called, something to take the groups the chisel, it
shot up into the ceiling very quickly.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
Luckily, no was Maybe there is a reason that he
trusted I mean, I don't know why they trusted us.
But back then, like you at the shop, they gave
you power tools like they had, we were able to
use in much different world. You didn't even know the
name of a chisel. Yeah good.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
We had a file, the kids file across the rooms.
The guy in the he just went to the nurse.
It wasn't a big deal. You know, he's always bleeding
old place. He took it to the nurse in his head.
Yeah yeah, but that guy learned some stuff.

Speaker 6 (13:27):
Yeah right, yeah, but that's also shop teachers were always crazy.
Yeah Eash grade guy's name was. But the first day
he goes he's like sixty years old. He looks right,
he goes to you, and he will be dead before
I am.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
Yeah. Yeah, that's how we started shop class.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Well okay, well his career exactly, so the now where
he's making them. But once again, to relate, it's this
wealth of knowledge, right this uh, I don't have to
look it up, Like we redid Steve's car. I would
stand there and he tell me what to do, and

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but I learned some stuff.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Right yeah yeah, good, really good. Cleaning the chrome, yeah
it was fantastic. We didn't need the chrome. Would always
here old davy polishing and he sounds like ash yeah, yeah,
great job. It was a lot. Yeah. Yeah, don't touch that.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
Point because he always has to be doing something like,
he's that guy, so you'd give him something, you would
be active polishing away and.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Then he look the new chrome game. Yeah, well I
was I polishing the old chrome.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
So I believe we've officially digressed a little bit.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
A little bit. But you're listening. It's okay.

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Now on iHeartRadio more of the Man in the Arena
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and Rick Thatcherike.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
Singer and Patrick O'Rourke.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Before the break, we were talking about from the best
selling book Sorry Can't Is Alive by Arthur Lee.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
And again just a reminder to go to life act
dot net.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Use the code MITA. I say MITA, but it's Man
in the Arena yep. And there it is for those
that are looking. Got the code media.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
The book and.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
This book will serve as your guide through our conversations
for the next twenty some odd weeks where we're going
to be talking about each chapter of the book. And
again tonight is second part of removing the word can't. Well,
it's cold can't, but it's all about removing Pat, I
want to ask you when you obviously read the book,
you're a life fact.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Friend, yes, fan, not only Man in the Arena. I
see myself choked eventually around.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yes, he was identified early on as as most likely to.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
Choke it off. You did the picture, oh yeah, yeah
from Chicago.

Speaker 6 (18:00):
I always do Prime pictures prompt you're gonna give you yes,
But that was actually was interesting. You guys are talking
about your databases, and I I think I my database
filled up at like thirty eight.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Guy was full.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
And now I learned stupid things and I forget important things,
like I know Snookie has a son named Lorendo.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
That's in my head. I don't know any of my pans.

Speaker 6 (18:19):
I don't know any of my passwords, but I know
Snooky as you lost to everything all important, like your
parallel parking. Can't remember what Snooky has a son named Lorenzo.
I should change all my passwords to Lorenzo.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
I swear, never forget. I can't see if guys like
you keep taking stuff in it's I'm not that smart.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
No, But that's a good point. Like you know, we
used to know all our friends phone numbers.

Speaker 6 (18:42):
Parents last worked in body exchange for a couple of years,
so I had to learn all the numbers from Europe too,
and they're like sixteen digits. And you I was I
was a runner on the commodity exchange, and you had
your book and I had like twenty biggest customers, and
you had to go back and dial sixteen numbers every time.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, I got I remember working in their free and
knowing all the you know, for people all the country,
my get culture, cargo, la whatever, we just dial on it.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Now I can't get in my bathroomt work. No four
digit code. I don't think I know my homephone code?

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Again, what's the code? But get back to the book.
Can't just removing the word from your vocabulary. It would
apply not only to you know, the stories of life
back and the quest to introduce this life saving device,
but also you think about motivational for students, sports.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
Work, pab What did you think when you read that chapter?

Speaker 6 (19:34):
This is I think what you can take from that
as an old saying that nothing obsessive people obsessions sometimes
aren't good for you.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
But everything break in the world comes from.

Speaker 6 (19:43):
In a session, someone just said, I'm refusing to take
this as a note.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
I'm going to figure this out.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
So that's what I got from that is it's just
motivational where you just don't take it as you don't say,
can't just keep plowing folks.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
But here's like and it was cool because last night
we we went dinner and we honored Jim Kerr Jim, which.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Was really cool small, Jim Kurr big, yes, in the
industry all over the country.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
But the point one of the guys afterwards after the
show came up and he said, hey, do you mind
if I talked to our sales group with this philosophy.
I want to give him the chapter. I wanted to
read it and I wanted to understand because, as we
talked about in the first show, there's a micro and
a macro. If you get rid of it and you
say you know, you say you know, Hey you want
to come watch the game?

Speaker 4 (20:31):
I can't make it right.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Well, that's a lot you could, but you may have
something to do, you may not want to go. But
the micro is you pause and you go, I won't
be able to right, more appropriate, more honest.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
I could go, but I choose not to write.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
So in the micro it makes you properly evaluate that question,
not immediately go I can't because how many times you
say that?

Speaker 4 (20:56):
And then that night crowd I should have won? This
sucks right?

Speaker 3 (20:59):
So with you though, in the life back world is
the macro, right, That's where you have this database.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Of skill and knowledge and confidence.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Your ability to pull from your database to do something new,
like remember we went to the show for the mold guys, right, Yeah,
well you had some knowledge what that was about and
how to machine a mold, and I learned a lot
because you know, you can't make a hook, it's got
to be able to come out of the mold.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
That was fun and it was cool.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah, and when it came apart, how to be able
to release and the pressures and temperatures. But you know,
the without your database, the confidence to not say you
can't do that right right away you said, am it,
We'll do it.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
And that was cool and I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
We never have and when things come your way request yeah,
it's not yes, yes, usually yeah we can do that.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
We'll figure it out. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Can we shift to Rockland County? Can you get a
thousand units there? But yeah, we can do it.

Speaker 6 (22:03):
Give it to your habit of It's it's a good
rule to have in life, where you know, you know,
should I go to that way?

Speaker 4 (22:07):
Should I go to that?

Speaker 6 (22:08):
If you think about two or three times, you should
go right. That's sort of that first chapter is like,
that's the right thing to do. Do it, don't say,
don't regret it later doing and going to.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Tell you, I'll tell you what a what happens when
you get rid of it? You don't even do those
three times right when there's something like that, you just
go and.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
Then you deal with whatever you just blew off.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Right, But if that becomes the priority right away, it's
easy and and a lot of the things and I
hope you know. And it was cool that that guy
came up and said, can I use it? Because he
was thinking it made him think of why this is
useful to get rid of the word. A lot of
the things in the book are to simplify your life.
You don't question those things. You just go and whatever

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you got to get rid of, you do. And you know,
that's that's life. Back once we decided we had to
say people and I couldn't, we couldn't just have it,
then it was whatever happened didn't matter, we were gone.
And that might to figure out the real way to
do it.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
So much possibility.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
You're listening to Arthur Lee on The Man in the Arena.
I'm Rick Fatcher along with Mike Singer and Patrick O'Rourke,
and we're talking about removing the word can't.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
It's so paramount.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
We talked about it in the first episode of talking
about this, removing the word camp. That night that you
were contemplating visiting your friend Steve OLIVERI who his mother
was in the hospital, and you had other talk about
in the description.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
The other you know what, it's just what Pat said.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
You know, I was tired of driving home from work,
right with long days in the air, freight world, crazy world.
And he was in there with his mom and by himself.
I'm gone, right, I wind the goll go to bed,
watch TV. But I just that was coming that I'm
gone by I'll go see him, and you know, going

(23:57):
to see your dad. It was cruddy rainy day and
and uh, but I wanted to go.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
I want to see you see. And we had a
great day. Yeah, what a great day.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
And and I think if you when you boil it
down like bats and get rid of just do the
right thing. Yeah, you gotta go see someone, be a friend.
Whatever you gotta do, it's gonna work out and.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
Makes those special moments. I'll never forget that. And you
know he's gone now, but he remembered that to the end.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
He was actually asking, but think about it in such
a trying time, how much fun we have there?

Speaker 5 (24:34):
Yeah, that was just a great, great night, you know,
I mean a bad times. Yeah, but you know he
didn't show up. It was a great time and he
was alert and yeah, making jokes.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
And then the next you know, the next days, looking
at my sister's there waiting for some she looks like.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
Why but somewhere in his brain then he was kicking
around like you know.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
The but you know that face she gave you. You know,
so this was at south Side.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
You believed the hospital and you lost your dad. I
thought it was a great testament to your friendship.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
And the gentleman to my right. Yeah, and again the
paint in the picture, yeah, Arthur Lee.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
The great tribute to your dad with the American Vet
Dogs was unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
So I can't even wait like this, you know, just
to see him. And then it just covered a lot
of these are a lot of teasers for all the
wonderful stories American Vet Dogs has been. We've been blessed
and honor.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, American bet Dogs in honor of your dad.

Speaker 9 (25:44):
Everyone.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
They sponsored a dog for my diet past and yeah,
they would like back. The dog's not born yet, but he's.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Well, he has been. He hasn't been named he might
have No, I don't think she said it wasn't and yet.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
But when he is, then he'll go into training and
it'll be like a year and a half or two years.
He'll did all this extensive training. He'll be given to
a vet, some vet somewhere that needs a.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
Support dog and a veterinarian. Yeah no, not would Yeah yeah,
and there good job.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
And just so happens that Eric and vet dogs got
a mile away from the back course.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Yeah, right in our backyards. So it's so uh impressive
and we love it.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
You're listening to Mike Singer from Life Fact Arthur Lee
Ye Patrick or Umberfacher on the Man in the Arena.
We're talking about this great book, Arthur. Why should people
get now?

Speaker 4 (26:44):
I want to.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
I wanted to go back to when you started writing it.
But you've been living this philosophy from your dad.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
And a lot of stories been little you know, throwing
rocks and get in fights and little rascals movies. But
it's accumulation of how we learn, right, because that's what's
leaving us the ability to learn. Look it up right
two seconds time of Ho'm wrong, the baby with I'll

(27:11):
look it up now. There's the answer, but you don't
know it. I know it, Yeah, of course, snookies, kids.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
Plane, But it gets me nowhere in life to google
that you know a side.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Important to know where to go, Like you identified Mike's
wealth of knowledge in certain areas, we I have a
go to guy for all things in the house. Happens
to be Mike Nerni, great guy from Speak Pat. You
probably have the same rollodex of experts in your circle.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
Yes, yeah, I'm not good at the house stuff. Yes, right.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
But but the key to this elimination of this word,
it's it's stepped down the path, right, because the challenge
is not the past knowledge, it's the future knowledge. If
we rely on finding the answer right and having it
and handy it and moving on, we don't have a
database of things to pull from to challenge something we

(28:08):
don't know the answer. Right, You couldn't google, not invase,
substuct advice and it come up with nothing because it
didn't exist. So but getting rid of that word changes
the way you think, right, makes you more honest, and
eventually what will happen and what happened to me? You
don't even think of what you quote unquote can't do

(28:29):
because you're not to say the word.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
So whatever happens, you say, you know the we ran
out of gas, No we didn't.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
But the situation that whatever happens, you go. You don't
lament we can't start the car? No, you say, why
won't the car start? How do I get it? Put gases?

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Problem solving?

Speaker 10 (28:49):
So we ran out of gas in the middle of
a parade, boards but the battery run the gas? Okay,
maybe we gotta we did we finished that story?

Speaker 6 (29:03):
Did everyone just passed by you in the parade us.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
And also the middle of the go around us? But
pushing it off?

Speaker 3 (29:16):
But anyway, the point was that then we had to
figure out why the car didn't go.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
But the first thing was not lamenting it can't start,
can't we can't push? We just said push it over,
let's figure it, let's go. Yeah, And that's the point.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
The more you get rid of that word changes the
way you attack a subject. You're more honest with yourself
and with others, and you think differently.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
But people were telling you you can't yea, they were lying,
But they were telling you that about the f d A, about.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
The initial one. They were right.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, And you said that there were other voices.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Maybe, Yeah, well a lot of what was, you know,
A lot out of it was you're gonna get sued.
You know, you you're you sold your company, you could retire.
This is crazy. You're going to get trouble. How you're
going to do it, how you're going to prove it works,
how you're going to present it to the But Mike
never said anything.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
A lot of it we don't even know what's going
to happen, so we'll figure it out.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
But part of me is that's part of also what
you need. If you get too many limitations put on
you when you start something, you may get scared, you
may chicken out, you may stop.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
But when you get you.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
Know it works, like when you know if something works
and you've made it and if and you know you've
gone through the testing and you know that the function
is going to work no matter what, right, it's just suction.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
That's why in the beginning, like in the beginning, we were.

Speaker 5 (30:46):
Like, but once we realize that it's just suction, it's
going to work, we just kept push pushing.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
Bringing him went in and tested on CANDAMT. I wanted
to talk about that, bringing up I can't do Yeah,
So we need to he finds it's a place. Where
is that? Let us come in and.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Right there on John Street and Hicksville, that's where.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
That's where most people go.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Best people in the world there, all their cadavern needs there,
you know, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
What do you need? What do you need to get
at the top of the bottom? I would recommend you
don't need your body to science.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
You don't get much bat a tool back.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
Or something, but you get something to bury at some point.

Speaker 6 (31:33):
But I think they can't breathe yeah, ye moments.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
Yes, So I was.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
A copy of twenty you know, all kinds of disgusting things,
car accidents, people.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Shooting and all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
But I have to say going there, and and she
was a cool girl, right, the girl. It was very
cool because she was just nonchalant, right, And the place
was nice and TV monitors and smelled clean.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
It was like a disco. But then they rolled out
this person.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
The person they roll over and here you go, and
you're like, I'm like, oh, man, like this is real,
Like that's it.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
That's some guy. I said a little prayer of gratitude
to the person. Yeah, but it was the hold of
my Yeah, you join in the prayer. I didn't. I
didn't that time because I was a little I was
a little nauseous. I have to say, I'm a little embarrassed.
But I was like, oh man, you know, I don't
want to be too graphic.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
You asked for like a like just the dorso, so
they give you just the door so.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
And then everything else was missing, you know, like our
choking Charlie. So, yeah, a little creep Charlie.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
So at one point, I'm like, people think I took
the cold water on my neck.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
I'm like, okay, let's get back in there, you know.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
But then you're doing the sumption on some some guy,
you know, just curious a hot dog.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
We used hot dogs like Costco.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
We we did, and then we used the different size
of objects when measure them and stuff. We don't even
know what we got, park walls or something. We had
three different sizes.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
Far.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
Yeah, and then we had then we were you know,
we we didn't want too far, and then you know,
we would.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah. It was basically that this sounds like a great.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
This is what this is what your friendly so was
looking for a demonstration and more hands on.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
She came for the demonstration, Like I think I still
have the.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
Good Yeah, but after you know it works, like you know,
it was just a full steam ahead. You always knew
even though all the roadblocks everything else, we always well.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
I think we're going to get into that on too,
because there is a cultural, uh society difference. Why it
took eleven years the Red Cross to say, you know,
they recommend doing it instead of letting someone dot. But
I think as we get through these shows, you're going
to see kind of our moral corruption and I think

(33:55):
it's it ties into Cantons Lie because we are we
can't use that sign in this that we can't use this.
The state didn't tell us, so it's not this right now.
And you're thinking, may you're talking to a person in
school sixty schools that had a child die. We contacted
early on and said we'll give you one. Now we
get one to every school. But now the Red Cross

(34:18):
says you should do it. So yes they're doing it,
but they said, oh no, we don't want it. Now
they get die m hm. So that'll come into it.
But if they were his brain in my brain with
this philosophy, they wouldn't say we can't have it. They'd say, yeah,
we'll take it. Why not we could save this kid.
If it doesn't work, it's not gonna matter. They're going

(34:38):
to die anyway. Yeah, so we'll see the way as
we go that there's there's moral connections to everything we
do too.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
You're listening to Arthur Lee, Mike Singer, and Patrick Rurk
and myself.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
Prick Thatcher.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
The man in the arena will be back, so join
us on the other side.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
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Speaker 4 (35:07):
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(35:45):
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Speaker 1 (35:56):
Now on iHeartRadio more of the Man in the Arena
the Life Back Radio Show. Here again are Arthur Lee
and Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
We're talking about removing the word can't. We're talking about
all things.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
About this book.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Sorry, Kennon is lie, but primarily focused on that first chapter,
second part talking about removing the word can't. Before the break, Arthur,
you were talking about some of the barriers that the
people were telling you, of course that we don't say it,
but that you're not going to.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
Be able to right.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
So it was the folks worried about the FDA put
it in the school.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yeah, not because we've become a society that you have
to be told we're no longer allowed to use our
own brains and say to suck it out.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
The kid's going to die.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
The two I still remember two of the first fire
departments that put it in. They both said we think
it'll work, and it's another tool in the bag. That's
because they see it right. The police see it right,
so they're not the ones finding you. It's the bureaucracy
type situations, you know, the legal ease fear, and it's
backwards because you're not supposed to let someone die. He's

(37:00):
supposed to do anything reasonable. The Red Cross stipulation suggesting
to use it, recommending is hopefully the end of that battle.
But for the show, it's more about the moral interpetitude,
right they think about you would let a child die
because you're afraid you're getting trouble, Not me, and I
don't think anyone sitting here would. You'd save the kid,

(37:23):
of course, and then I'll deal with it, right, you know,
but t everything, what did you want to pitch you?

Speaker 5 (37:30):
So it's again it goes to your like people not
being able to make a decision. So this can happen
to anybody, and it's just like a heads up to
public service everybody. We're driving into Freeport the other day,
town here on Long Island, and evidently they have.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
Plate readers everywhere today, right, they could track you no
matter what electronic surveillance.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
So it came up in our vehicle that it had
a suspended insurance. Right, we don't have expended insurance, but
evidently our registration came up suspended.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
We had no idea. We've been paying our bills.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
But so the police officer stops us, right and just's
go back to your not being able to make a decision.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
He pullses over and says, oh, Peter says you have
no insurance. Well, I have this paperwork says I have insurance. Right,
I'll give you more. Right, I'll bring you a letter
from state farming. He says, I have insurance the whole time,
and no laps has occurred. But he was unable to
make that determination. He kept showing me the computer. The
computer says, He says, you've got to go to TMV
and fix this. Right.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
He takes my vehicle and pounds it and gives me
the plates back. No, he doesn't even he takes the
plates as well. But this could have happened to me anywhere, right, anywhere,
this could have happened. I had no idea that my
insurance was suspended. Been paying my bills, so there's no
way of me checking. I can't run my plate, nobody can.
You can't I can't right.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Is there an infomercial sore, Yeah, there's an Informersys saying
that people should be aware of checking their insurance because
this could happen to anybody anyway.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
This happened to me today on the way here.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
That's why I'm like this because I just left Freeport
to get my car back because dollars.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
And we have message to check insurance. And I had
documentation of that insurance. But he was able to the
insurance in the show, but it was It goes back
to saying that like they own today, they only know
what they say, right. But that's that's Oh I don't know.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
I can't make that computer, ye he says, Remember.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
About car warranties.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
A ninety old guy goes to the airport thing and
the beeps yea, and then bring him over the strip
that starched him there.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
I'm like my mother, Okay, it was ninety years old.
They made.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
This is the one right, But that that will come
out in the moral dilemmas that we faced, the lack
of common sense from being able to make a good
decision and saying I'm okay.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
You're good, you're not. I don't know why who kids right,
you're not going ahead. I don't think you have a
shoe bomb. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yeah, you know who we should check in with. You know,
man in the arena always goes to mister three thousand.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Ray Breeby, how are you today? Wonderful? Wonder Austin your assistant?

Speaker 9 (40:15):
Yes, got Austin my assistant here.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Hello, You're going out in five different states now, Austin,
So I love it.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
I love that we're in five different states.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Yeah, I had to talk today. We're actually we're getting
some traction. So we had some interest from some other states.
So we'll see it.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
Looks like you said, halework to do.

Speaker 9 (40:35):
Yeah, yes, yes he does.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
So for those who are listening for the first time,
mister three thousand we call him that because he saved
his daughter. He was the three thousand save young monkey.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
Speaking of the little three thousand, big smile, there we go, right, Hi, hey,
young lady. All right, y, all right, what do we
have here? All right?

Speaker 9 (41:01):
The latest numbers are we have three thousand, four hundred
and sixteen saves to date.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
Wow, that's like sixty this week. Wow. Wow, you got
one too.

Speaker 9 (41:13):
We have thirty three saves just this week alone from
January ninth to January sixteenth, thirty three saves. Crazy and
we have four hundred and sixteen saves in eighty eight
days from that from that October twentieth of number three thousand.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Wow, incredible, sixteen saves. Incredible, and we can't We have
to stress the importance of folks that are listening and
impressed by the numbers. And if you're not protected already,
please go to the website. You gotta be careful of
the knockoffs. Lifefact dot net. Get yourself and your family protected.
Life fact dot net. Beware of the Of course, Lisa

(41:54):
Warner is very concerned with the knockoffs. She's very vigilant.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
But we thank you so much.

Speaker 9 (42:00):
I do want to do the highlight of the week
her week. Highlight of the week is a fifteen month
old girl choked on vomit due to a seizure she
had well in her crib. I have a statement from
the mom here that I'm gonna read and it's it's
pretty powerful. So she had a seizure in her crib,

(42:22):
which she had never had before. She had vomited and
at the same time choked on her vomit. She became
unresponsive by the time we got into her room and
tried everything to get her back, we remembered we.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Had a life back. I tell you, without that, she
would be dead.

Speaker 9 (42:41):
I am CPR certified and in my profession, I am
trained in pediatrics, so I have a lot of knowledge
and experience with children. But without life back, she would
not be here.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Big big statement right there, big statement.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
I just I uh as always, I appreciate you sharing
your time and and you know, we we always mentioned
it was a godwink that you made the three thousand
save because you're such an advocate and such a friend
and such a person determined to make a difference. And
that's why my back exists, because we all made a
conscious effort to say, no matter what, we're going to

(43:22):
make a difference.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
Life back, save my daughter. So all will be here wherever.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
He certainly does not know the word can't know.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
No, that's what.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
But that's if you notice, that's what happens you're in
something that's terribly or tremendously difficult. The similarity will be
people that, like Pat said, it's got to be done
with doing it, and then that word doesn't exist.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
Amazing man.

Speaker 9 (43:49):
Before I take off, I just want to say, God,
bless have it and not need it.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
Don't need it and not have it. Man, that's him
at Brian's show. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Absolutely, absolutely, a big date coming up in Jacksonville. Listen,
you're gonna be a day, especially especially for those folks
listening to his radio in Orlando w f L A
Sundays at eight am. You're listening, it's Sunday, nice Sunday morning.
Think about coming over to Jacksonville February fifteenth for Rank.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
Is there the stations that we're on, We're.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
On in Houston, New York, Orlando, joining us, joining the band.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
That's always a great show too. It's always interesting.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
I started laughing because Packed up that the pirate out. Yeah,
Rigs like, you know, I can't deal with you're a piate.
He's like, I'm not a pirate. Yeah, you're wearing a
pirate up.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
Don't give it away.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
About the early part of the show is great too.
When he comes he just talks to the audience and
the beginning great speaker.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
Yeah, super nice. He's a guy who doesn't can't his vocabulary. Yeah. Yeah,
everyone told him you can't do this, you can't do this,
do this. That's the Peanuts parents talk about. Yeah, yeah,
it doesn't hear it doesn't know it.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Yeah, so we'll all be together February fifteenth. If you're
going to be in the.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Area, fifteenth ge reach out, reach out to our audience,
will be there.

Speaker 7 (45:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Of course you're taking the whole team in the whole
studio audience.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
It's like you're you're going to the trip. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Yeah, yeah, it's a lot easier to pull out off.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
Where is it? Where is it going to be Jacksonville?
Where you know the theater he's got where is it
Florida Theater? Jacks. People out there might want to wear
the important thing, do you know what? Given brying a
little plug?

Speaker 2 (45:46):
The important thing is to reach out. The important thing
is to reach out to us. And we have a
ticket for Yeah, we'll have a ticket for you.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Yeah, we'll give them one the first respondments in the area.
I still think we got like twenty left that we
could give out. So Orlando now get just getting sold out.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
All the station.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Reach out to us and we give you get four
fifteenth and Jackson.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
Get yourself a sign book. You know you've been listening
to the many the arena.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Mike Singer along with Arthur Lee's CEO and inventor of
Life Back, Patrick o'rour.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
Let's all for meet and greet too if they come out. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,
I think the street the street. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
And we thank you, We thank Ray Prey, we thank
these guys, and we'll be right back after this message.

Speaker 7 (46:32):
I was in the living room when I heard my
son Carter, who was two at the time. I looked
over and I saw him grabbing for his face. I
grab a life Back. I put the mask on his face,
and please push Paul the Life Back just ladged the
ice cube from his airway and he started crying the
most amazing sound I've ever heard my entire life. Please

(46:55):
protect your family.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
Get a Life Back.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Now on iHeartRadio more of the Man in the Arena,
the Life Back Radio Show. Here again are Arthur Lee
and Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
And mister Mike Singer and Patrick O'Rourke. And we've been
talking about this great book. We can't put it down. Sorry,
can't just line. We've been talking about the first chapter
and I can't put it. I broke the rule right
there there is I will not put this there.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
I could put it down, Yeah, I could it's just
like you learn it now. It's kind of in my head, yeah,
spell check. And this has actually been the second installment.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Go through the chapters. We could extend them, we can
do double chapters. Our next week is Perfection. I think
that's a one show thing, but it will make you
think the way we look at it, how does that
limit Well, once again we will be a discussion. But
the theory is, you know when I was making the
treeoss and someone said, oh, you know, I could never

(48:06):
work because it was you know, I just made it
up right to the treeos and he was like, oh,
I couldn't work like this would have to be perfect.
I would have to have those angles. And in my
head I said, well then you probably never have a
tree ass. You just talked yourself out of a treeoss
because they're not perfect. You're building a house and a
tree trees move it stand. So that next discussion will

(48:27):
kind of be another path that we look at to
say what is holding us back?

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Right?

Speaker 3 (48:34):
And I've had people read the book and do reviews
and saying they that was a big chapter for them
because they first time ever realized it might be a roadblock.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
I'd have to go I'm not going to do it.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
It takes too long because it'd have to be perfect, right,
and then it's just an excuse that you don't realize
you're doing because you're going to make it perfect or nothing.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
Yes, so it'll be cool.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
And it'll be fun to talk about the limits that
try and make it perfect.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
We'll put on You know.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
What I've almost almost forgot to talk about is your
recent trip to Pensacola. You have a clip. Oh cool,
and we would love for it to come up and
now share it with our audience.

Speaker 11 (49:14):
If a new tool added to the Pensacola Police Departments toolbox.
The department received a donation of eighty five life back devices,
a suction device used to help clear an airway of
someone who's choking.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
To be able to have something else and our kit
to be able to potentially save a life.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
I think it's just some remarkable.

Speaker 11 (49:33):
The device is meant to be used when the Heimlich
maneuver either doesn't work or can't be done.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
Person's too big, they're in a wheelchair, they're in a bed.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
So you preached that you do protocol, you follow Red
Cross guidelines, and then if it doesn't work or it
can't be done.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
You have a backup to save a life.

Speaker 11 (49:52):
The organizations have helped get the device to multiple law
enforcement agencies, schools, and assisted living facilities across.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
North The motorcycle group is a lot of current police,
retired police, military. They don't know the word can. So
Shane just said, we're doing it. Shane foresman shout and
the team and as his team and the riders. But
a great bunch of guys, a lot of experience in

(50:20):
very difficult situations. You know, he was over in Afghanistan
Iraq and uh he was wounded, but gratitude for our
country and and the total attitude that this last time
I was in Pensacola, I was on the news because
the kid died in school. And now we're back donating
units to the police department. And that guy speaking was

(50:41):
the chief cools Hell totally on board, you know, basically
saying anything we could do to make it better.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
Like the Ilmante guys yea, who.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Were present for the three thousand Life Saved party, which
is just a sum Yeah, it's really all happened.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
Yeah, that's pat was said.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Sad for you not to be at the three thousand,
but you have a you had an important date.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
You were officiating a wedding.

Speaker 6 (51:05):
Oh yeah, down in that tall island, South Carolina. Yeah,
it's a friend of mine's son. I officiated a wedding. Yes,
did you do comedy or sometimes I just well this one.
I just did all the love songs because they wanted
to be light, so I was. I was just quoting
love songs.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
But when I asked him, Pat, are you going to
be able to be at the three thousand Lives Save party?

Speaker 4 (51:26):
I didn't say I can't, said I will not be there.

Speaker 6 (51:28):
Won't committed exactly my Auti's point. I committed to someone else,
and I did the right thing.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
Read the book. I can't leave. I can't leave them
high and dry. Yeah you could. I will not leave them.
Look like the top of the hat.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Right in the newscast, you pointed out your own transgression
and you said it there. But I think it's more
you know it slips out, and not even that it slips.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
Out in certain cases.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
It's not like you were answering a question of like
will you be able to do?

Speaker 1 (51:59):
It?

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Was but I but we laughed and it's true. But
it will make you think. Even when you say we've
done all of this.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
You know, I can't put it down. Yes you can,
but it's okay.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
It just to make you think and to change the
way you think so that if you do say you do,
realize you could any move on.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
It's change you. It's the biggest change I think I
had from a kid, and.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Talk about yeah before we you know, no, there was
there was some other stuff, puberty in particular.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
But where did you finally growing? Where did you get
that philosophy from my dad? In our house that was
a word you weren't allowed to say.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
And as you know, your kid, you could learn good
stuff for bad stuff.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
It's your world. You know.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
I didn't know he was cheap, but we were poor.
But the real benefit was growing up that way. You know,
he was on the space program and helped put a
man on the moon. That was not a word we
were allowed to say. In the book, I go through
through the legend and the lead family of why we
don't say it. But it did make me grow up
with a different mindset. And and that's the real key

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that we say it here and there. It's to change
your brain to say, when something happens, think of what
you can do.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
Embrace the possibility and that you know, sit.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Here is the guys that change the world by making
a sing punder into a life saving device. So I
think that way it will change what the way you
approach things, and you will attract and have friends that
have similar mind to right.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
Well what you did.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Yeah, A pleasure, what a great A great note to
end our show on it. It's been such a pleasure,
like the yeah, the request, the requests coming after the
show's over, after we say good yeah, we're going to
open it up for questions and suggestions as you've been

(53:52):
listening to Mike Singer with all his suggestions. Patrick o'rour,
always a pleasure to have you guys.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
I'm Rick.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
I'm with Arthur Lee CEO and ventor of Life back
on the Man in the Arena.

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