The Word Can't

The Word Can't

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Now on iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
The Man in the Arena, the Life Back Radio show
where we explore incredible stories of courage, resilience and life
saving moments. Here's your hosts, founder, inventor and CEO of Lifeback,
Arthur Lee and Life Back Advocate and President of Sales,
Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Welcome to The Man in the Arena, a show that
celebrates courage, resilience, and the unyielding spirit of those who
face life's greatest challenges. Add On brought to you by
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over thirty three hundred lives in thirty countries. This show
is a tribute to the heroes who refuse to stand

(00:44):
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is not the critic who counts. Not the man who
points out how the strong man stumbles or where the
doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit
belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.
We explore stories of those who are actively making a difference,

(01:05):
fighting for life and transforming adversity into triumph. Founded in
twenty twelve by Arthur Lee, Life Act represents the power
of invention and determination, a father's drive to protect his
own and then others. Today we bring you stories of bravery, innovation,
and inspiration, showing that even in the toughest arenas, there's

(01:27):
always a way to fight for hope. Stay tuned for
stories of real life heroes, groundbreaking achievements, and the relentless
pursuit of saving lives. Welcome to the Man in the Arena.
I'm Rick Thatcher with the CEO inventor of Life Fact,
Arthur Lee. Arthur, you authored the book Sorry, cant Is
a Lie. I'm gonna say within the last couple of years,

(01:50):
but it really illustrates your path and also lays out
a blueprint for others that can create their own greatness.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Today we're talking about cant as a Life, So all
our shows will kind of formally from my book Can't
Is a Lie? And we also have a president of
our company, Laura Banelli. Here.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Laura Benelli. Welcome, Hi everyone.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
But the combination of the show is, like you said,
is bringing on people that are in the arena, courage,
fighting battles, and the elimination of the word can't. To
me was one of the foundational elements that I took
into my being.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
You know, I have so many questions about this first
chapter of the book. I do want to point out
that it's almost required reading for this journey that we
are in the Man in the Arena. So for folks
that are listening and are interested in the life fact
story and the sorry Can't is a Lie story, I
would encourage everyone to number one, tune in each week

(02:46):
to The Man in the Arena, but also to go
to the website lifeact dot net and pick up a
copy of this book, Sorry Can't Is a Lie? By
mister Arthur Lee.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Well, think about this, and Laura, do you see yourself
now's president company presidente? Do you see yourself monitoring that word? Now?
Since we kind of work together a couple of years now.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
I do. I really only say it to torture you.
But I've taken it out of my vocabulary.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Now. Have you noticed the difference by not having that
in your vocabulary?

Speaker 5 (03:19):
Yeah, I think that anything is possible now when I
eliminate that from my vocabulary, because you can do anything.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
But here's the thing. In to me, there's a micro
and a macro lesson. Like as a kid, I was
kind of told to do this. You couldn't say that
my house, like, that's what I want. That was a
curse word in my house.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Curse word.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
You know that it was a lie. My dad would
tell you that you can.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Right, there's your title now.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
And you got to remember, He'll put a man on
the moon. So I grew up in this environment of
anything is possible. And there's a legendary story in the book,
but the real key to me was he backed it up.
He's putting a man on the moon. How many times
they say, oh, it's not putting a.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Man on the move, so or it's not rocket science.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yeah, so it kind of fits in. But the micro is,
I can't make it tonight right now, when you're not
allowed to say the word can't, you got to reevaluate
that and go I could. I don't have to go
to the grocery store. I could go to this thing.
So now you still may not want to go, but
at least you were honest and fair, and you gave

(04:24):
it a split second to say, hmm, and I've noticed,
and I'll ask you do you sometimes go no, I
will by pausing yes.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
When you think it through, because initially you have that
thought of now I really can't do that, right. But
when you eliminate that word yes, then it's a different outcome.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Right. So the micro is I can't make it tonight.
The macro is once you start using that philosophy and
it stops you anytime you're about to say that word
that you think differently and say I could, but I
don't want to. I could, but I have other things
to do. So you start framing everything differently, and I

(05:07):
don't know, I get this, and I'm both you is
sure when something happens. I never look at what can't
be done because it's been so ingrained to me. So
as soon as I hear something, I like, we could
do this.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
I can bear witness to that because people offer something
from the moment. And we're coming up on one year,
what a great year. I thank you, then, I thank
you now. I'm blessed to be part of the life
BAC family. But I remember the first day there was
a hey, would you guys like to do a radio show?
And I don't think there was other people in the
room that answered as quickly as you do. Yes, we do.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
Well. Sometimes we need to be a little bit careful
with that one yes well.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
School Ability School they got a little bit of free school,
you know, just so you know America, and one for
you to every school. Get myself in more. In trouble
with our financial people.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
We often think of movie references in movie lines. Yeah,
I immediately thought of cocktails where Tom Cruise says the
drinks are you know? The next one is on the house.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
And he was like, no, no, oh, I got that.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
I'm the one that always says now, so come see
from me first.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Well, you know, but you both do you And I
noticed it with you today when we're driving in have
gotten rid of that word, Like, I appreciate that, and
I do believe that there is a deeper benefit. I
think when we train our minds to think of what
can be done first, right, because think about it, what

(06:37):
you can't do, it's very important. What's the point of
knowing what you can't do? And trust me, when you
take a sink pong of glue together, turn it into
a life saving device. A lot of people are telling
me all the things you can't do, can't test it,
can't do this, can't do that.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
You can shoot And you were aware of this distinction
now when everyone was telling you you couldn't can't do
this with Life Fact. You can't change the world, you
can't save lives. It must have hit you in a
different way than it would hit most people.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
But I think the other part of it is too
you don't really hear it as much because it's right
once someone. You know, we we have people that are
very happy to use that word quite a bit. Yeah, well,
because it's it's pointless, right, And I kind of over
the years have developed that kind of mentality, like, you know,
people tell you what you can't do, and you're like, Okay,

(07:28):
what good is that. There's a waste of bear. I
don't need to know what they can't do. I need
to know what they can do. And I think throughout
the book and throughout this show, we're going to look
at those odd kind of foundational elements. Right. Not a
self help book. It's an observational book from life and
it is going to help though, I think so absolutely So.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
You're listening to Arthur Lee. This is the man in
the arena. I'm Rick Thatcher along with Laura Bonelli, president
of Life Fact. I've got so much out of reading
the book, and I I was proud to be an
early reader of a version that hadn't yet been published,
and recognize a lot of the stories, know some of
the characters. And I was going to mention Steve OLIVERI

(08:12):
because that very night you're visiting, you could have I
don't know if he requested you to come by the hospital. No,
but you could have said, oh, Steve, I can't.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yeah, well that could they know exactly. That's another thing.
And you know, I think about you a lot lore
when when your young childhood that you know, you kind
of went to work early and you had to deal
with some tremendous, terrible adversity if you were too deep
seated in the can't world, Like tell me how old

(08:42):
were you when you're walking down the street with like
ten grand in your pocketbook?

Speaker 5 (08:46):
Oh dear, let's not tell everybody about this, but sixteen actually,
and I helped the family business, and we did what
we had to do, so cam't was just taken out
of the equation because we had to, right is no choice?

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Good question. But I almost don't think that you did
think that way, Like you didn't say I can't be
walking down the street with the money late at night and.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
Right now or wherever. I didn't. I did not think
that was it Queens. It was Woodside, New York.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yes, side, I just know Woodside from the train guy.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
On the train, right under the Long Island Railroad. Yes,
that's where we were.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Were you scared?

Speaker 5 (09:24):
I really wasn't. You know. Back in the day we
had real car keys, So I had those in my
hand and I was ready to go.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Did you have mas on board now? Of course?

Speaker 4 (09:36):
But here's the thing. Here's the thing, and this is
all your history is a big reason why you are
the president of the company. When you get the mission,
until you have the courage and fortitude to carry it out,
and you've sadly had the tragedy that makes the the
tragedies we're trying to stop. But more importantly, on this point,
nothing blocked your way. I have to walk through Woodside, Queens,

(09:58):
wood ten Grand, I'm going to my car. It's not
like I'm doing it. That's what I got to do, right,
And I think a foundation of that's what I got
to do also takes away some of the I can't
I have to. You have to, yeah, But if you
allow that word to become too prevalent, then you start saying, oh,

(10:19):
I can't do that, I need someone to go blah
blah blah.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
What else can I do?

Speaker 6 (10:23):
Right?

Speaker 4 (10:23):
But it's a real corruption to your mind and your
capabilities if you use that word too much. Now, my
thought is it's almost like what do they say dry
January or something? Try it, get rid of it for
a month. See what happens. See if your mental outlook.
See if you become a better problem solver, See if
you become more brave, you know, See what happened.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
You're listening to Arthur Lee. This is the man in
the arena. I'm Rick Thatcher along with Laura Bonelli, president
of Life Act and Arthur you were talking about removing
the word can't. What's a practical way you just mentioned
dry giant give it a chance, But what's a practical
way that listeners to the show can go about it?
Should we write it down each time.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
We say you just got to I'm conscious because it
really to me now because I still say it occasionally,
but it's like oops, you know, and I kind of
kicked myself when I do it.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Can you remember?

Speaker 4 (11:19):
No? But it will? You know, it slips out. It's
a normal word to use. But the good thing that
I find is I do realize I messed up and
I said something, and I'm like, and I think there's
another subtle to be an honest. Right. You say, hey,
you want to come over and watch the game, and
I say I can't. I'm kind of lion to you.

(11:40):
I could, but I'd rather say, you know, I would
love to, but I got to go to this, right.
I take a pause to know if this is more
important than watching the game with you. And I'm more
honest to you, right, because if you tell me you
can't come to the game. Remember when you're a kid
and you torture the guy we're playing football at the school,
go to the mall.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Eh, you know you're mid Island.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Yeah, mid Island, exactly right, And you torture the guy
and he say, all right, I won't go do it.
I'll go do whatever you want. We'll play ball. So
I think that it helps you be more honest with
the person and yourself. Try it, you know, just or
be conscious, right.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
I think it raises the possibility of what you're capable
of achieving. You think a different way about opportunities, and
you don't cut off immediately when you answer can't.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
But I think the deeper thing, too, is the honesty.
Who's way more honest with yourself and you're way more
honest with whoever you're dealing with or whatever situation you're
faced because bottom line and the title of the book
is the reason that the title is. It's a lot
because you can do anything.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Right there chapter one, and that's what we're going to
be doing exploring on the Man in the Arena is
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Speaker 1 (14:40):
Here again are Arthur Lee and Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
We are joined by iHeartRadio Assistant program Director Scott Lakefield.
Scott Welcome, Thank you guy.

Speaker 6 (14:51):
Its good to be with.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
You, you know, Scott, I really appreciate you being on,
and it was fun talking the prior to coming on
and you listening to our first part about the can't situation?
What did you think of that? Does it make sense?

Speaker 7 (15:04):
It makes total sense. And I'm going through my mind
how often the words I can't come out of my
mouth or go into my ears, And it's just really
could be life changing.

Speaker 6 (15:14):
I gotta really work on kind of.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
You know who else who keeps track of when you
say can't missus? Lakefield?

Speaker 6 (15:19):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (15:20):
Absolutely right, Absolutely nice, You got it. Yeah, you've got
those spike cams in my house, don't you reckon? But
you know that struggle is real.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
That's a I mean, that's exactly what I'm hoping listeners
think because we do use it, and I think it
becomes automatic. So when something happens, we don't want to
do whatever it is, I can't and then you go,
I could. But it's almost a little torturous in the beginning,
so you kind of get the hang of it, and
once you you kind of accept its position, you can

(15:51):
use it here and there, But it's more to be
aware of how much you're approaching anything with a can't
do attitude. So that's really cool that you're thinking that.

Speaker 7 (16:02):
Well, the lie aspect of it is what gets to me.
It's like, my gosh, you know, yeah, we are a
whole bunch of liars. Yeah, if you think about how
much how often people say that to you? Or what, no,
I can't go to the game, Well that that I
don't want to go to the game, or I got
other plans.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
Yeah, you know that bug me and you think about it,
and we have to almost be careful right because you
say I don't like you, I don't want to come on. Okay,
let's relax on the complete honesty. There's inside voice, outside voice,
but definitely is in the micro part. The micro builds
the macro if you stop saying it and you're more
honest and say I would love to, but I have

(16:37):
to do something else, right, not I can't go because
you could that the micro builds the macro where you
change your mindset to look at anything with what can
I do?

Speaker 6 (16:48):
Right?

Speaker 4 (16:48):
To me, that was and you know I was bus
because it was just it was natural. You know, we
just weren't allowed to say that. You know, my dad
be like, sure, you can you know, I'm like, okay, sorry,
so you grew up that way. But you know, between
my two careers and particularly life back that it was
essential to taking on projects that are seemingly impossible. Now

(17:13):
you you have two kids, you say.

Speaker 6 (17:14):
I do.

Speaker 7 (17:15):
Yep, I have a fifteen year old and a eleven
year old going on twenty five.

Speaker 6 (17:19):
Yeah, she was my younger, older daughter.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
Very now. We were talking earlier about about the Life
Act and the fact that you know, we both took
the course when our kids were born, and no one
raised their hand and said, by the way, the back
blows and Donald, they don't always work. And what do
you think when I told you some of the numbers.

Speaker 7 (17:41):
It was unbelievable to me when we started getting into
the numbers of how often that can fail. You talk about,
I can't it can't always save a life, right.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Right, thirty to fifty percent, depending on the who's delivering
and the skill level. Thirty to fifty percent failure. And
you learned it twenty twelve. Were you aware before today's
conversation that those standard protocols don't always do the trick?

Speaker 7 (18:05):
No, I had no idea. I mean I walked out
of that class. You know, call it sixteen years ago. This,
yeah child, Yeah, and you know they raised in one
of the clothes. You know, anybody not knows CPR. Yeah, me,
my wife raised her hand. So they taught us, and
so we walked out of aaron. We've been blissfully ignorant
for sixteen years that, Oh, oh, we know how to

(18:25):
do CPR. So you know, God forbid one of the kids,
or one of us, or the dog or whoever is choking.

Speaker 6 (18:30):
We know how to do CPR.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Nope, well, wellt's see. I saw your eyes light up,
and I've seen it for eleven years now. And when
I was in the hospital my buddy whose mom was
having a seizure, and he pointed the gurney and said,
seven year old choke the deadline, I said. I was
in the hospital. I'm like, what, how is that possible? Now?
That night I went home and started to get the statistics.
Five thousand people a year, one child every five days.

(18:55):
As Rick mentioned, the failure ratio of five to seventy
percent successory and the real burden. I knew, now, I know,
like you're in the same boat. Now, now you know
that's almost worse like that, You said it perfectly the bliss, right,
relis to that not knowing saying I'm good, you know
I can I'll be all right, But we can't live

(19:18):
in that bliss because of the death that do happen.
And then once that happened, I got this urge or responsibility.
Now I'm not in that fog anymore. I know it
might not work. I gotta do something. I'm her father.
And that was the beginning of the mission.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
You're listening to the man in the arena, and you're
listening to Arthur Lee, CEO and inventor of the life fact.
We're new to iHeartRadio and WFLA and Orlando KPRC and
Houston WOR here in New York, and we're joined by
Scott Lakefield, who's established here.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Right, you've been at WOR for thirty years, since nineteen
ninety five. Ye, that is cool. Now you've seen a
big change.

Speaker 7 (19:57):
Radio has changed dramatically. I mean, but I I think
you know a lot for the better. I mean, people
really have so many more options as to how they
can get radio. I mean, we all carry a radio
in our pocket. It's called our phone. And you know,
you call up the iHeart app and you can listen to.
I mean, for a radio guy like me, it's the
greatest novelty in the world. Because when I was a kid,

(20:18):
you know, you put the tinfoil on the antenna to
try to get the distant station and that kind of thing.
Now it's right there. I can listen to a station,
you know, from across the country. I found the touch
of a button.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
I found a boat in the swamp and I we
redid it. But I have fund memories of being in
the basement. The tubes on the radio were glowing and
I would be down there working and listening to the
radio because it was such a beautiful background. You know,
it was able to work, and you know they would
play music and then do the talk about you know,
this song goes out to Vinnie and dedication. Yeah, but

(20:51):
it's just a cool thing. And now here's the question
the awareness, right I told you that, like Fox, Brian
his message sharing the knowledge that we both now became.
I became aware of eleven years ago. You today has
saved What do you know how many Brian saved teens? No,
it's more more than that. Somewhere around thirty live, you

(21:14):
know what, I bet.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Your Donna Yeisley, Well, this isn't necessarily a lie, but ordinarily,
if this was event the exact numbers and she's going
to hear this.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
But I guess it goes back to the awareness set,
you know, like crud, Now I'm aware the impact of
radio has to save a life. Have you ever thought
of that?

Speaker 6 (21:38):
Well, the radio is a very powerful microwa.

Speaker 7 (21:40):
Yeah, and you know, being able to put out this
type of information, it's a responsibility first and foremost. I mean,
you know you were talking about you know, the look
in my eye when you told me those stats and
told me that that was the case with CPR training,
and that's I think what what struck me first is
it's like, now I know this, it's now my response
ability to help spread the word about this and to

(22:02):
let people know that and right exactly and don't but
don't go into your CPR class and walk at it
or saying Okay, if somebody in my family or in
a restaurant, on them in or whatever it is, choking,
I'm good to go. You know, I'll be able to
save their life because you know, maybe you're one of
those that don't get over that finish line.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
But you know that it was interesting in your long career, right,
And I think, like anything, you kind of get in
a routine right there, and there's advertisers and they're important,
and they all have a message and that's that's fair,
and you want to sell your product or sell your service.
But when I see a save, come over, because you know,

(22:43):
we're at three thousand, what do we have?

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Three thous three thousand, four hundred and one.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Hundred over two thousand children? And I'll get the report
and we'll say where they heard it, you know, and
it'll come up. There's gonna be one that comes in
wo r and I'm going to show it to you.
You But with kind of the fake news and the
bashing of the media, it really is cool to see
it do positive.

Speaker 6 (23:08):
Well for sure.

Speaker 7 (23:09):
Yeah, you know, And it gets back to that whole
idea of sometimes we've got to just set the politics aside,
because whether you're Republican, Democrat, none of the above, whatever,
you need to know this type of information, right, And again,
it's a responsibility for all of us. And what I
love about life, BacT is you took that responsibility when

(23:30):
you found that out and said, Okay, what am I
going to do about this and now you've saved over
three thousand lives.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
I didn't see. That goes back to using the title
of the book and why it's the title. If I
didn't have that mindset, thank you, dad, of say take
on a challenge because it needs to be taken on.
I mean, there's a chapter on fistfights too. You don't
fight if you're going to win. You fight if you've
got to fight. But that is a more obvious consequence.
You're gonna get your face punched in, which I have been.

(23:58):
You know that, my face punched in. But it was
better to fight than to not. And when you have
this brain mind set of I can do it now,
the responsibility is even greater, right because it would be
easy to say, oh, well, you can't test it, and
I'll lose all my money and i'll get food. But
I'm not allowed to think like that. I have to

(24:20):
think I have to save a life. I have to
save my daughter first. And then you know the devil
and the angel, the devil saying, relax, she did it,
She's safe. What's the problem, and the angel saying, hey man,
what about all the other kids?

Speaker 7 (24:33):
You know what, even if it's saved one you know,
even if your number was not over three thousand, and
it was one, that's still again an accomplishment of the responsibility.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
I appreciate that because the magnitude of what we've done,
no one has ever eliminated a leading cause accental death. Right.
If you take these two thousand plus kids, that's parents
that still have their child be aus. We persevered for
eleven years, and you know we have a lot of
you know, help you live longer, test you, et cetera.

(25:04):
But it's very clear this is black and white. Right.
Those kids are here and would not be here if
we didn't all persevere, all the life backers to do that,
and then tying it back is Brian didn't put that
message out there. He saved those kids and w r
WU was saved those kids.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
It will happen. You're listening to Arthur Lee. He is
the ultimate man in the arena. We're here with Scott Lakefield,
iHeartRadio assistant program director. I'm Rick Thatcher. I'm here with
Arthur Lee, CEO and inventor of Life back just talking
in general good. We're trying, we're trying our best. I'm
trying to be an area you've.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
Been friends for forty plus. He is we played talking
together as kids.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
It shows it shows. No, no, you guys have got
a great relationship.

Speaker 7 (25:48):
But you know something, just I was thinking about something
as you're talking about the responsibility and saving lives and
whatnot from people choking. And you know, I think back
to like when my kids were small, and you know,
we're cutting up grapes because.

Speaker 6 (26:01):
You're afraid of them choking.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
It can do it all.

Speaker 7 (26:03):
You know, you can do all those kinds of things
and it doesn't matter. But you know here you've got
something that can really make a difference.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Yes, and that's a response parent. We courage that we
watch your food, cut your food, what be aware, get trained,
get Red Cross trained, and have a life act. We've
pulled out over two hundred and ten different injects from kids,
not all food, not all food like plastic foam, leaves,
hair clips.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
The paper of a straw, not the straw itself, which
is danger to the turtles, but the paper straw.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
But that's but see that's another moment, and I'm so
glad you brought it up. Of awareness. Wait, our comfort
level is not I cut my foods. I cut as
hot dogs, I cut as grapes. God bless yes, do that,
but be conscious that after eleven years of data, the
number one thing they choke on is piece plastic. And
it's really a sign of the time. So we've got paper,

(26:57):
straws now, but everything is plastic. Everything is wrapped in plastic.
Everything you opened has got a little piece of plastic.
And I think God Life Act is successful at removing
the piece plastic.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
We're here with Scott Lakefield, iHeartRadio assistant program director. If
I could ask you, because our research department is on
hiatus woor was that television and radio when you started?

Speaker 6 (27:20):
It was not.

Speaker 7 (27:21):
By the time I started, they were two separate entities.
It wasn't long before I started that they went in
separate ways.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
Didn't I watch the Yeah?

Speaker 7 (27:28):
Sure, yeah, And actually not all that long ago. You
could listen to the Mets on wo R. They were on.
In fact, the last time they were in the World Series.
Wo R Radio was the flagship for.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
I'm talking aboutnineteen seventy three. I'm under the covers listening
to the World Series.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
That William mays Well Oakland A's That was a long
time ago. Friend, Scott was not around.

Speaker 7 (27:49):
I grew up with w l R on in my kitchen.
So my mom was, oh, really, you know, always had
it on aways always.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
When did you know?

Speaker 7 (27:56):
You know, I never thought about radio until I went
to college with that voice and believe it or not,
and I went and I got a campus radio show
and said, this is what I want to do. And
that's why parents are. They're both retired now, but they
were both teachers. I thought I wanted to teach, so
I went into college as a math major, thought I
wanted to teach math.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
So two things happened to me.

Speaker 7 (28:17):
Calculus two yeah, And I walked into the campus radio
station and I sat down, I did a show, and
you know, obviously in college radio you're doing a whole
shebang yourself. And I was like, oh my god, this
is what I want to do. And the beauty of
that is I fell in love with every aspect of it.
And I've spent thirty years working behind the scenes and
loving it just as much as if I were on

(28:37):
the other side of it.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
See. But that's cool. That's a really cool thing to say,
is fact. Because I'm thinking about my daughter and she's
in school now, sophomore college, not sure where she's going.
You have to have faith that you're going to find
your way and to be open to new things. Right
not allowed to say. Camp does open your mind too,
because you can go you know like camp. Youm radio,
I'm good, Well good try it you can. Oh, so

(29:00):
you don't know you're end path. You got to explore,
you know, and that's so cool. You listen to it now,
you hear man.

Speaker 6 (29:07):
That's what's the what's the Yoda line?

Speaker 3 (29:09):
You know?

Speaker 7 (29:09):
There is no can't only try or you know, but.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
You got to try.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Those other people trying to nestle in Yoda, hustle in
on your little can't talk.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
Put things and all those are yodles.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah, we're going to be right back after this break.
We've been listening to Scott Lakefield. iHeartRadio Assistant program Director.
Arthur Lee, CEO and inventor of Life Back. The man
in the arena will be right back.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Hi.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
I'm Arthur the inventor, founder and CEO of Life BacT
and a proud father. Did you know Choking is the
fourth leading cause of accidental death. Tragically, one child dies
every five days. Now, imagine your child, your spouse, or
someone you love choking. You have only seconds Act. It's
a situation no one wants to face, but it can

(29:54):
happen to anyone. That's why I created life Fact. Life
back is a life saving airway clearance thefe that's already
saved over three thousand lives. It's easy to use, non invasive,
and gives you the power to act when every second counts.
Don't wait until it's too late. Visit lifefac dot net
today and use promo code life to save twenty percent

(30:15):
on your life back home kit. That's lifefact dot net
Promo code Life. Join thousands of families who own lifefac.
LIFEVEAC can make the difference between life and loss. Go
to lifepac dot net and get yours today.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
LIFEAC is proud to be at the forefront of innovation
in choking rescue. Recently, the American Red Cross updated its
guidelines to include anti choking devices as an option for
choking emergencies. This life saving update recognizes the importance of
tools like LIFEAC designed to help in traditional methods may
not be feasible or fail. LIFEAC is there when seconds

(30:51):
matter most. Join the thousands of families who trust life Act.
LIFEAC can make the difference between life and loss. Go
to lifeac dot com to get your Today.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Now on iHeartRadio, more of The Man in the Arena,
the Life Back Radio Show.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Here again are Arthur Lee and Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
This segment of the show, The Man in the Arena
is reserved for a special man.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
He is a special man, mister Ray Preeby.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
We also call him mister three thousand.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
We love him, We do love him.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
He's so great.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
And what afternoon, mister three thousand from Cape Coral, Florida.

Speaker 8 (31:32):
There he is, Hi, raight, what's everyone doing today?

Speaker 4 (31:35):
We're good man. I always amazed and grateful for your
effort to always come on and talk with us. And uh,
you know what was cool about it when he was
into the whole of saves and put his daughters three
thousand save up and I busted his chops and then
he came in and busted mine. I'm like, we're good.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
Part of the team.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Yeah, yeah, right away, right, that's the part of.

Speaker 8 (32:00):
The family, as I say, part of the family.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
If you boss each other's chops, your friends.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
You've been here for the all three thousand, Loria, you too,
most of them. Could you think of a better person?

Speaker 6 (32:11):
No?

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Godwin absolutely and the news story. You know what, Ray,
this is the first time I think we've had you
on as mister three thousand, and we're going out all
across the country New.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
York, California, Orlando, Houston. You your at.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Least four big question right. So this is the man
in the Rina national version. Tell everyone why we call
you mister three thousand.

Speaker 8 (32:34):
So the story behind mister three thousand is my daughter
was the three thousand person saved by life back. It
was an unbelievable situation that my wife and I ran into.
We were driving home from a birthday party. My daughter
was in the back seat, she three years old, in

(32:57):
the back seat, munching on some candy. Didn't really notice
that she began to choke. My wife turned around and
you know, you hear those god awful words. She's not
breathing good. It's just it's crazy when a parent is
put in that situation. Add under the fact that we

(33:18):
were driving down the road. Immediately I pulled over and
did the normal routine. We tried the finger sweep, and
we tried the back compressions, and after about the fourth backstrike,
I realized this wasn't going good. She was still not breathing.

(33:39):
It was a full obstruction, and that's when I would
thank God I had my life back. I unpacked it exactly.
You know. Meanwhile cars are driving around us. A couple
of cars did stop, and God blessed those people for stopping.
But I unpacked the life back. I used it one time,

(34:01):
first try. It dislodged the piece of candy that she
was eating, and it was the most beautiful cry I've
ever heard.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Great to hear it. And when I saw the news
story for the first time, I was struck by how
far we've come, how much. Arthur will quickly chime in
and say, keep going. We have so much for and
we do have so much more to do. But two
motorists brought over life back.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
But that's that's the kind of the extended hope that
we are getting there.

Speaker 8 (34:30):
You know.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
I do say keep going all the time, because we
need to today, you know. And next to the post
was a person who choked to death. A child took
death in nursery care, and a police department put life
back in. I kind of put him side by side
one to offer prayers and adultnces to the family, but
to remind us that, you know, we are blessed to
be talking to Ray and he's blessed to have his daughter. Absolutely,

(34:53):
we're not done. And I think that's what part of
the show is about. Using the backbone of the book
is to raise awareness, and that the whole book is
about hopefully it helps someone, but it's really the continued
raising awareness. But the other goblink is Ray. That Ray
has been willing to share a tough story and that
takes courage and to go out of his way. I

(35:14):
mean he stops and comes on our show and absolutely,
and he's willing to say a tough story. Think about
your kid choking and doesn't funny? You know, then it's
not a that's not a pleasant thought, that's a that's
a big and.

Speaker 8 (35:27):
You think about it. It's how many parents face the
situation and don't have the device. Thank god I had
the device. Thank God the device worked the first the
very first time that I used it. So I put
myself in other parents shoes where what if they don't
have this device, What if they're faced with this situation,

(35:47):
whether it be in the road, in a store, at
home wherever it happens, be faced with this situation where
their child is choking. You know, seconds go by, and
it feels like an eternity. Those seconds take by when
they're not breathing. So my whole goal is to team
up with life back and just get the word out
there that hey, you know what, you must rather have

(36:08):
it and not need it than need it and.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Not have it.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Well, you know, Ray did, dear faith and your empathy
come into play. And I still go back to standing
on the island when I had it made and I
could save Jackie, and the devil saying you're good, relaxed,
she's saved. What's your problem? And the angels saying, no,
you can't stop now right, you have to persevere and
save others. And I think when I look at my

(36:33):
heart and why Ray will take the time and come
on and so enthusiastically. You know, he's like, I'm there,
and you know, for all you know, it's got life.
But I think Ray, that you know it's a combination
of faith and empathy that you feel that way you
want You don't want anyone to go through what you
did without a life act.

Speaker 8 (36:53):
And no, absolutely not. I mean that day will never
leave my mind October two.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
Yeah, but the reason is you don't want that. And
someone else is why you're you're so good to sharing
that word and making the time. You know, nothing great
happens without sacrifice. Trust me. I can test to that
from the last eleven years and being all over the country,
all over the world, and uh sleepless nights, et cetera,

(37:19):
et cetera. But real faith involves sacrifice, involves results, and
it stems from faith and empathy.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
So you know what I noticed about Ray since he
became mister three thousand and we learned of my story.
We call him and ask him for this appearance.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
He never says.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
He never says can't. No, I can't do it. No,
I can't do it, Rick, I can't.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
Do the picture on the book.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
You're a life backer, right, do you have that?

Speaker 8 (37:46):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Did you have that as a philosophy? Were you aware
of that aspect to where the word can't and why
to take it out? No?

Speaker 8 (37:55):
I reflect back on I had the Life back and
it worked. So why should I say I can't or
I can't make the time. I can always make the time.
You know, Life Back, the device, Life Back, the company,
Arthur Rick, everybody involved. They gave Maya a second chance.
My wife Chris and her sister is a firefighter in

(38:15):
Benita Springs and they actually have the device on their
rig and that's where she learned about it. And she
immediately said, you have to get one.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
Hey, you are thinking of it. You want to think
of it in a cool way. The firefighters save the life. Yeah, right,
but by awareness and I you know once again that
goes into all this. You know, if you get it,
you have it, talk about it, spread the word. This
has been a grassroots killing for eleven years.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
Absolutely sharing his caring and Ray, you will save other lives.
You're sharing your story and it's it's amazing.

Speaker 8 (38:49):
It's not even about saving the life. It's as I
look at it in a in a parent's perspective. I
wouldn't ever want a parent to be in the position
of it was in their child.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
When it's not happen, when it's avoidable with a life fact,
Ray Preby, mister three thousand, I'm the man in the
arena brought to you by Life Fact. I'm Rick Facher.
I'm here with Arthur Lee, CEO and inventor of Life Fact,
Laura Benelli, President of Life Back. Ray Preby, I'm interested,
how long did you have the life BacT before because

(39:22):
this is an interesting part of a lot of the
reported live save party. How long did you have it
before you had to use it to save Maya?

Speaker 8 (39:28):
We had it just over a year. We actually have several.
When I went online to look at these, you know,
it hit me. Can't have one, right, I can't have one.
I have to have multiple because what if I needed
at my house? What if I need it in my car?
What if I need it while I'm in my house
or in my car? Again, so we ended up purchasing
three of them, one for each car and one for

(39:49):
the house, and we had all three of them for
a little over a year before we needed it. And again,
best investment you could ever make.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Right.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
We've heard a lot of the best gift too with
baby showers grandparents. I mean the gift and his decision
to do that. And you know that the travel kits
stems from someone having their house and not being able
to They were traveling and they was in the luggage
and they dumped through it. So Ray did the right thing.
And you know, we hope that you do be super

(40:21):
conscious and I have one, but it's a little scary,
a little.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Risky, no doubt, no doubt. Now Ray has been on
this journey with us after he was dubbed mister three
thousand on Monday nights, on Thursday nights. Now he's pulling
an audible and he's joining us on the weekend show.
So Ray, talk about the family. How has the family
responded to this new star fame.

Speaker 8 (40:42):
I have a huge fan base. I have three or
four people that watch the regularly.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
It's gonna be more. It's gonna be more.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
He's got more good friends than us.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Good cure.

Speaker 8 (40:55):
And that's the That's the thing. If I if I
can reach one person today, great. If I can reach
one person and tomorrow perfect one person one day, great.
The big thing is get the word out there that'll
work to the vices.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Work, keep going.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
Thanks Ray, your best, fantastic.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
We're gonna talk to you real soon. We always enjoy
speaking with mister Ray. Preby mister three thousand. Thanks against
so much.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
Ray.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
I'm Rick Thatcher, Arthur Lee Laura Benelli on the Man
in the Arena.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
Hi, I'm Arthur Lee, inventor, founder and CEO of Life
Back and a proud father. Did you know choking is
the fourth leading cause of accidental death tragically. One child
dies every five days. Now imagine your child, your spouse,
or someone you love choking. You have only seconds to act.
It's a situation no one wants to face, but it

(41:41):
can happen to anyone. That's why I created life Back.
Life back is a life saving airway clearance device that's
already saved over three thousand lives. It's easy to use,
non invasive, and gives you the power to act when
every second counts. Don't wait until it's too late. Visit
lifefac dot mat today and use promo code life to

(42:01):
save twenty percent on your life back home kit. That's
Lifeact dot net promo code Life. Join thousands of families
who own life fact Life thatac can make the difference
between life and loss. Go to lifefac dot net and
get yours today.

Speaker 9 (42:17):
I answered the call together. We fought for our nation
and its people. And even though I no longer wear
the uniform, I am still a marine. My service has
come full circle. I will continue to support my country
and my community then and now. Semper fidells remains my promise,

(42:42):
Always faithful, always Marine.

Speaker 5 (42:47):
LIFEFAC is proud to be at the forefront of innovation
in choking rescue. Recently, the American Red Cross updated its
guidelines to include anti choking devices as an option for
choking emergencies. This life saving update reckes the importance of
tools like Life Act designed to help when traditional methods
may not be feasible or fail. LIFEAC is there when

(43:07):
seconds matter most. Join the thousands of families who trust
Life Act. Life Act can make the difference between life
and loss. Go to life AAC dot com to get
yours Today.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Now on iHeartRadio, more of the Man in the Arena,
the Life Back Radio Show.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Here again are Arthur Lee and Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
And we just heard from Ray Perby. How great is
mister three thousand?

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Yeah, we touched on now blessed we are that he's
the three thousands to say, right.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
He's great, really sharing his story all over the place.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
I think when we put him up on the lift,
yea on the wall, like that'll always stick with me,
that we have a lift to put his door to
save and that he put it out the roof. There's
the roof, but you know he put it on the wall.
It's just something that will stay with me.

Speaker 5 (44:00):
Over three thousand lives are on the wall in the
Hall of Saves. That's unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
I mean, anyone out there, it's listening. You go to
lifevec dot net you can see a picture of the
Whole Saves. But basically we have a picture of the
three thousand, every one of them. What's the size, like
four by eight four home.

Speaker 5 (44:17):
Yeah, four by four every choking survivor.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
And it's now seventeen foot ceilings and every inch of
the walls is covered. I mean, you do it, You'll
do it. We go in there to re generalize ourselves,
to humble ourselves, to know the mission.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
You're listening to Arthur Lee. This is the man in
the arena. I'm Rick Thatcher along with Laura Bonelli, president
of LIFEC.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
What we're talking about is when Ray came to the
Whole Saves after.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
The after the three thousand party.

Speaker 5 (44:48):
Great party, by the way, who set that up?

Speaker 4 (44:52):
I believe their team, Yes, oh wow, NICs. But the
visual of him going in this cissy jack up, having
to go in a scissor jack up to put a
life because I remember putting two up and four up.
I mean it was six for the first year.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
For the first year twenty sixteen, Lauers and gentlemen, life
that gets on the map starting in the UK with
four lives the entire year. It's crazy. That's a slow day.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
And that would be I think we had eighty Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
I don't know, amazing. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (45:31):
I don't get those reports directly.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
We will be getting texts from momentarily.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
Yes, but that's good. They you know, they got us
her for always being enthusiastic the way she should be.
When we get a saved, no question, Heart of Gold
woke up. We had this morning save in Australia. That's right,
I should go.

Speaker 5 (45:50):
That was that I should go as.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
That always willing to go. Now we've had saves there,
but it was a cool way to start today.

Speaker 5 (45:58):
We had a save in New Zealand and yes, amazing. Okay,
I'll go to Australia.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
You go to somewhere.

Speaker 5 (46:06):
You want to go to Babylon.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
U mean Babylon like Jamaica. And they stopped the islands
because they refer to Babylon Babylon by bus. You meant
Babylon one one two long Island. Yeah, sure, sure be going.
Yeah you go to Fiji. Okay, I just get the
Great Assignments book. Listen today we've been talking about can't.
We've been talking about the word can't and how in

(46:32):
the book sorry Can't just lie Chapter one take that
out of vocabulary. How important was it for you, Arthur Ly?

Speaker 4 (46:40):
Oh, going back, you know, talking about it's been it's
been cool and it's fun and it's an interesting experiment.
But next week, you know, we're gonna have Mike Singer
on and we're going to really show how two guys
that have eliminated that word can't change, like yeah, And
today was more of a discussion of the word. And
you know, growing up with a dad who put a

(47:02):
man on the moon and told us when I'm allowed
to say that? And then next week will be how
it created life act.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
I love how you just slipped that in there, growing
up with a man who put a man on the moon.
Well your dad was involved through grumming with the NASA
Space program.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
Well he was grumming and I they both the easy
Well you know, my name's on the moon.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
I was just going to say that, isn't your name
on the moon?

Speaker 4 (47:25):
Yeah, yeah, and it's I actually met another guy on
Long Island who's a junior. I'm a third So we
had the same name, right, So there's one, at least
one of us out there that has their name on
the moon. But the realities were very inspiring when you
grow up the environment you grow up in. Like, I

(47:47):
didn't know how cheap my dad was till I went
to buy cinder blocks as an adult and I realized
they were dollar. He had me humping them all over
the place, and I'm like, what the freak? We could
have bought a cinder block.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
So mom never pointed this out. No that I admire,
admire your mom. I know that that wouldn't fly.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
Well, you learn what you live, you know, But that's
my point. So I grew up with you know, stinking French.
I get to see you'd be like, I'm putting a
man on the moon.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
I don't remember you stinking in French at all. A loan.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
Cuisine.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
We show off because we remember seventh grade French.

Speaker 4 (48:23):
We actually do. It's ridiculous. Okay, well that's good we
can remember something.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Good thing you have, the life factor gives the world.
Because the French it didn't work.

Speaker 4 (48:35):
It was probably not a good crew move. But the
cannon is a lie. Second part get the book. By
I mean it would be neat. I think it's worth reading.

Speaker 5 (48:46):
He wrote a book.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
Still waiting for the president of the company to read
my book.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
You can get the book. Sorry, can't as a lie
at life aact dot net. Wow, and I have brought
a buck and it's fabulous and everybody should go get
a copy.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Because that's on our journey with the Man in the Arena.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
It goes off to the men in the women in
the Arena. Then these underlying qualities must exist. You can't persevere,
you can't take unhuge challenges without a foundation of will.
And you know the title is because I grew up
in that environment and that's what made me say why not.
I guess I can because that's why I was brought up.

(49:28):
And I think is we share these thoughts, maybe we
help people, Maybe someone else takes on a different attitude
towards something. And like I said, next week can be
fun me and singer, Oh my god, that is.

Speaker 5 (49:40):
Going to be following.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
The folks of Los Angeles on the Patriot and WFLA
and Orlando, and the folks in Houston at KPRC and
here war in New York are all waiting for more
the Man in the Arena and for more Laura Benoli, Yes, certainly,
Arthur Lee.

Speaker 5 (49:56):
And Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
If you think about it, you know what we've done
is team Eleven years ago I went in my garage,
I heard of a choking death and decided to make
a difference. And throughout that time there were lessons that
came in that were learned, and there were parts of
my past that gave me the foundation to persevere, to
handle adversity, to come up with solutions. You know, the

(50:20):
journey has been incredible, But part of me says, not
only are we saving lives with Life Act, but if
we share our generations experiences that maybe we can help
other people in that avenue too, and it'll be you know,
it'll be kind of personal. Like we all develop our
foundation ourselves. There's nothing that we can take. We can

(50:41):
try and guide ourselves, but internally we got those mechanisms,
those instances, those lessons that drive us forward. Right. I
think when we train our minds to think of what
can be done first, right, because think about it, what
you can't do isn't very important. What's the point of
knowing what you can't do? And trust me, when you

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take a sink pong of glue together turn it into
a life saving device. A lot of people are telling
you all the things you can't do, can't test it,
can't do this, can't do that. You can too.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
And you were aware of this distinction now when everyone
was telling you you couldn't or can't do this with
life fact, you can't change the world, you can't save lives.
It must have hit you in a different way than
it would hit most people.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
But I think the other part of it is too
you don't really hear it as much because it's right
once someone you know, we we have people that are
very happy to use that word quite a bit. Yeah, well,
because it's it's pointless, right, And I kind of over
the years have developed that kind of mentality, like, you know,
people tell you what you can't do, and you're like, okay,

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what good is that. There's a waste of bear. I
don't need to know what they can't do. I need
to know what they can do. And I think throughout
the book and throughout this show, we're going to look
at those odd kind of foundational elements. Not a self
help book. It's an observational book from life, and it
is going to help though, I think so absolutely.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
So you're listening to Arthur Lee. This is the man
in the arena. I'm Rick Thatcher along with Laura Bonelli,
President of Life Back Now the next show. We've talked
today about removing the word can't can't pour too talk
about that Mike Singer. This guy has been there since
the beginning and it's going to be more of a
life back here.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
Well, you know, he's an amazing guy and heart and
soul and capability. But the extension of not only being
a person who gets rid of that word, surrounding yourself
with people that think that way. Not once Singer ever
say that won't work. You know, you can't do it.
He said, let's go. I think we could do this

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and make it better and change the valve system.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
He says that with everything. Yeah, he's like, okay, no problem.
I'm like, can you get out ten thousand units today?

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Yeah? Sure, no problem.

Speaker 5 (52:56):
Where's it going? Every single time? I know, and he
gets it done his perspective, his perspective.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Did he have that mentality of the camp No, never did.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
But we were friends because we would often talk about
a situation like I was working on an old Mahogany
boat and I would go to him and say, how
how do you think I could put these grooves in it?
And he would say, oh, you can try this, and
that inherently I knew he was that guy. Look, we
redid Steve's car. The guy took the whole thing apart
and put it back together. He would give me a job, well.

Speaker 5 (53:25):
It did take a few year. Let's give me.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
Polish the chrobe and then buy a new chrobe. So
that was my job. But he is that guy and
I'm looking forward to the next show with him and
how Canada lie applies more to Life Act.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
It's so exciting that we're on this journey together. We're
going to see more of the book. Sorry, canon is
a lie. We're going to see Mike Singer. We're going
to see it all. I'm Rick. I'm with Arthur Lee
CEO and Ventre of Life BacT On the Man in
the Arena