Today's Topic: Prayer with Guest Travis Harris

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to see you again as always, my friend.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
You know, what I was thinking about, Man in the
Arena is topical show, right, So today is prayer, right,
But when I was thinking about it was then the
book Sorry Cannon's a Lie is an accumulation of stories
of foundational understanding of yourself. And I'm saying it doesn't
really matter if you understand yourself, but if you have
children now you have to bring them up, you kind

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of have to know why or how you're relating to
bring them up. So what happened was in my own life,
I started to look at things that happened to me
and what stuck with me and what created me. So
this show and I mentioned it more in depth because
the prayer is kind of a you think, oh my goodness,
you know it's a religious it is, but it also

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is part of your makeup. But the point is the
book Sorry Can't is a lie share stories of what
made me. What I try and point out is it's
not to compare, it's to relate. So our show is
to stimulate your own thoughts. Right, So take our stories

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and think about it. I wasn't the person that you
could tell me to do something. You tell me to
do something, probably not going to do it, or I'm
not going to do it because you told me to
do it. And in the book, my uncle Rogers mentioned
but he had a way of telling a story that
gave you value because it was a story. And by
the time you were done to hanging out with him,

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you learned a lesson, but you didn't know you did
because it was just a story, right, And that's part
of how I went into this and in this chapter
slash discussion the evolution of my prayers and what that
did for me foundationally.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
It's worth mentioning that as we look at the calendar
and we record our show the Man in the Arena
talking about Arthur Lee's book Sorry Can't is a lie
of course about life back and other men and women
in the arena, It's gonna be coming up on Easter weekend,
which is significant to talk about prayer your book the chapter. Yeah, definitely,

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I was pointed out to me by Julia Binelli Nice
some significance there, not just picking these topics randomly. But
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as we said in the intro, but we're also talking
about chapters from Arthur's book Sorry Can't is a Lie
and you can get it on our website Life Act Net.
So prayer all.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Right, so check this out. So we're going into this
topic today. Yes, so let me ask this. Has anyone
ever said to you do you pray? Not in a
long time? Right, Not in a long time, So it's
not something you talk about. And that's understandable. But in
preparation to some extent, because it was kicking around in
my head, I asked a couple of people, do you pray?
Do you have a prayer? Right? And it's interesting because

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there is some no, some sometimes, some have a route,
some every night, right, And you look at what's in
your head, right, it's in your head and no one
talks about it. You don't sit around and say, hey, Bill,
you don't, let's grab beer and talk about what we've
been praying about.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Right, unless it's a prayer group or a Bible study,
and it's structured.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Right, But to me, the point of it is it's
our own piece of equipment in our life, in our
decision making. And once again, I'm not genomenal. I don't
go to church. I have faith, but it's kind of
self built. I was always confused by a lot of
the things we do in church. I didn't understand why

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we were doing them, what deck was going on. So
now I analyzed my prayer and opened it up to ask,
do you pray sure every night?

Speaker 2 (05:08):
No?

Speaker 3 (05:08):
No? And is it a route prayer like you blah
blah blah blah blah blah, you know it? Or is
it created on the moment.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
That's a great question. So with the kids. If I
was praying with the kids, it was interesting. It was
a recited prayer like my father. No late, Now I
lay me down.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
To sleep, okay, I prayed the Lord and soul to.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Keep and if I die, yeah, before I wake, freak
the kids right out. All right, let's change this. If
something should happen, you know, bad, if someone boors a
pizza to our house, that's something like that. Before I wake,
I pray the Lord my soul.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
To take think about how important that little statement is.
Right we sit there. You know, you could live every
day like at your last, but you can't really do that.
That they can't because I'm not allowed to say that
you could, but that would be dumb because you probably
wouldn't go to work that day? Would your last? Really
not that idea?

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Every day? Why aren't you coming in today, Arthur? I'll
tell you why because it's my last day, so I
don't want to see you.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
You've said that thirty seven days in a row, and
you went to Tahiti.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
So the advice was I took the advice the seminar.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
If I die before I wake, is to snap you
into gratitude for the day and to realize how important
those moments are. And you know, I I get frustrated
with that live every day like your last. It's like,
don't please, don't stay within yourself, all right, don't hurt yourself.
So the point is in these route prayers, it's wisdom,

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right right, gives your roadmap now in the second half,
so you do your Now, let me down, sleep very
long and time. I'm dis Gram's gram at least everyone
I meant. That's my part of that. Did you then
have guest stars or like how did what was the best?

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Absolutely and this was a shout out to Ryan Gillian Thatcher.
We would God bless and we'd run through the rolodex.
We'd everyone that was blessed was going to be blessed
by us going to bed, so God blessed Grandma.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, So we go through the family sometimes teachers, sometimes coaches,
kind of what whatever. Like we'd kind of remind each other.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, but see here's where I where I had that problem.
And see you know I wanted to go to sleep. Yeah,
we get carried away this person. Now you got social media, so.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
The can you get me my phone? I got to
go through the contact I don't forget any bed.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
I tried to kind of generalize a little bit and
get to a point of in that section, for me,
it's God, please be with the lonely, hungry, the tied,
the poor, the helpless, so hopeless. Please give them the
strength and give me the strength tontinue to be the
best person I can be. Thank you Lord. I meant,
now that was to kind of cover everyone, right, But

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here's the part that I kind of didn't realize perspective.
I'm not going to pray to make a putt. I'm
not going to pray that it's nice and sunny tomorrow
because I have a softball game.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
You're saying God doesn't care about that stuff. Well, or
selfish of you to, yes.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
But when you pull that back out, you now inadvertently
reaffirm what is important. Please put to the people who
need you, but please be with me to be a
better person and sometimes if I'm struggling, better dad, a
better husband, a better business guy, whatever. But that evolution
of the prayer to be proper, to be appropriate, and

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in the second tier of that was the gratitude that
if it rained on the sunny day that I had
a softball game, Okay, you know, God's not mad at
me perspective, It's all right because my foundation was, you know,
my family and being a good person and whatever.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Ams that look at the blessings. I love the fact
that in your chapter there's a prayer for a flat squirrel. Yeah,
the roadkill prayer, Please be with that animal. Now that
wouldn't obviously come up as needed. No driving down Sunrise
Highway squirrel or you know sometimes the skunk doctor, a
bit of dog or cat. I remember my mom would

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announce that she's more upset to see that. It just
really really bothered her, really bothered her to see you know,
cats dogs wells.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
When I was younger, really young, we went to Coney
Island and it was kind of a challenging place back
in the late seventies.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Challenging, yeah, and way to put it.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
But my dad wanted to go get a hot dog
and ride the cyclone and you know, my mother was like,
we're gonna get killed, and you know, he was like,
what are you talking about? For Brooklyn and we did.
We almost got killed. But I remember there was a
homeless man and he was on the sidewalks, you know,

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with his cups, saying help me. I'm a little kid
from mass Pegua. And I'm like, why aren't we helping
this guy? What what are we doing? The guy's sitting here.
If he was at the end of Jetmore place, we're
gonna go, oh, we're gonna out and we're going to
gain and we're gonna and people walking mind him. So
I was confused. How can we just walk by this guy?

Speaker 2 (10:31):
And this is your first exposure to this side, right, And.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
You know, my Mom's like, come on, we gotta go. Well,
we gotta help this dude. What are we doing? And
it stuck with me and it circles back to the
squirrel on the side of the road. I was dead,
I want and we pull over and bury him and
say a prayer and blah blah blah. Well that's not
really reality, right, So my fail safe was the prayer.
I'm not always able to actually do something there, but

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I can say a prayer for him, right, And when
I passed the squirrel, I said, gott be with the
little squirrel. Boom, I'm done. I gotta go. I get
stuff to do. I can't pull over and bury every squirrel.
But once again, the deeper piece is the perspective, right
that you are aware of these sad things that happened,
and that's what we prayed for. Right. Let me ask you,

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what do you remember seeing your first homeless person?

Speaker 2 (11:26):
And it would be characterized as a bum.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
In our day. I don't think you're allowed to call
them then anymore.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Bum, because we we would call each other you bum.
But there was a homeless person was more like we
thought they lived at the train yard, right, and they
had a stick with akership, with all their earthly possessions
were were in that great And the first sign of
jealousy is flattery, imitation. What were you folloween? We were

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a bum, a little charcoal in the face. I guess
yeah they were.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
But do you remember the change first time? I mean,
were you older? Because I was little, so it didn't
I couldn't understand why we didn't help them.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Right right? I think I think I saw a hitchhiker
before and was taught that lesson?

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Was that me? No, did you have a hitchhike?

Speaker 2 (12:18):
No? My first exposure to hitchhiking was going down to
the beach Merck Road, New York, and there were teenagers
out there hitching and I was curious because she had
a bathing suit on, and I was just wondering why
mom would or wouldn't pull over. There was a risk assessment,
and then I learned about you know her, the babysitting

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nightmare stories about the perils and the dangers of hitchhiking,
and it kind of went away. Right now, people have something.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
I'm almost sad about it because it was such a
shared faith. Right you're saying I need a ride, You
pull over, give him a ride? And it was all good.
I mean you know I did it many times, but
it was it was an acceptable gesture of saying, hey,
I need a ride? Can I ride share with you?

(13:06):
We ever see the things now, right, don't get don't
the interact on the internet with strangers. Don't get in
the car with stranger. Now we go on the internet
and get a stranger and get in this car, and
that's okay. But taking your thumb out and getting picked up,
Oh my god, you're gonna die. But to circle that
complete story, that's about faith, right, that you trust in

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another human being. But I guess the you know, like
we said on this chapter, was the evolution of my
prayer and what inadvertently building its foundations right and maintaining
the simple funny way is, you know, I don't need

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to be bothering God with this.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Putt right, put the rain. But you know what, before
we go to break and introduce our guests and get
back to talking about sorry, I can't rely on other
matters of man in the arena, I want you to
talk about the big prayer, which was you're on the
beach camping trip with Jackie. You've developed life back the

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early incarnation. And then there's an important prayer.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Well, I think whatever your connection to whatever your God is,
that it has to do with faith, right and faith
that being a good person is going to lead to
a good life, to a good after life. And when
I first made the life back and I was able
to save Jackie Boom, I could do it. I was good.
I didn't really want to go start another career. I

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didn't really want to take on everything. I have no
idea what I'm doing. I have to make a medical product.
I make a product. I don't know anything about this stuff.
And I was.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Important for people to appreciate that. See Arthur Lee, see
his daughter Jackie, see on the advertisements, see on the
news stories, hear about all that's happening, and figure and
just appreciate where you were in your life. Well, it's
a good it's before undertaking it.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
I gotta give you credit. It's a good affirmation to
what we're talking about, as far as prayers are inside
and they build your character. So we used to camp
one night before she went back to school, just me
and her. I still remember the tamp with Teddy Bears
and we sit by fire mache Moor's and it was great.
Daddy thought to time.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
She's about seven or eight years oldeven yep.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
And I couldn't sleep because now my brain is saying
I could save her, what about everyone else? And my
other brain is saying, you don't want to do that.
You're gonna kill yourself. You're gonna have to work eighteen
hours a day for another decade, and lah lah lah.
So I put it in bed. I was looking at
the sky, beautiful night, dark stars, and I had come

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to the understanding that I couldn't be the only one.
Then I couldn't read a story about a kid dying,
knowing I had something that could have saved their kid.
But I was too scared, cowardly, weak, you know, lazy, tired.
So I looked this guy and I said, God, give
me the strength. And as I said the word strength,
a shooting star went from one side to the other,

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not the not the It was a And I'm very
grateful for that, Mary, because well, it was like Berning
Cortez's ship, right, that was it. He said, yeah, you
got to do this. So what am I going to do?
Two weeks later to go o, I'm gonna tie. Yeah,

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you gotta do it. He's old, he's done. He told
you can do it. You gotta go do it.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
I gotta find the movie where the character in it,
it's a comedy asked for a sign. There's a dramatic sign,
almost as dramatic as the shooting star all the way across,
and the character says anything just ignoring it or just
try like you could not avoid that message.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Oh, we have a great story about cousin Mike.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Right.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
So we go out to dinner and he says, you know, guys,
I got this great plan on how we give food. Right,
what you do if you asked the waiter what he
would order and you order it. I don't even have
a look at the menu. And we all had to
shake hands that we agreed to order whatever that guy
said was great, right, because that's his plan, and he's
gonna he's going crazy, he's pat This is a genius.

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So the waiter comes over and he says, mister waiter,
he says, what would you order? And the guy says,
like the bull of base would fish heads? And he goes,
what else would you order if.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
They didn't have that? And they didn't have that? Wow?

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, we have to make sure that when we get
these signs, we take them seriously.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Right, and you leave yourself an out if they order
something really really gross the fish head soup chow yuk.
Remember that from Barney Miller. Anyway, you're listening to Arthur
Lee and Rick Thatcher on the Man in the Arena.
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Speaker 2 (20:01):
We're talking about prayer. Talking about prayer from the book
Sorry Can't is a Lie. The author, interestingly is our
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one of the leading closes acts and death and children.
So think about it.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, think about it. Do it and while you're there,
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Speaker 3 (20:56):
You know what I was just thinking of book when
I said do you pray? You're like, now you don't
get asked, right, But what I think maybe we we
have to or we should play with openly discussing it
because to me, you know, religion was kind of like, oh.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
We don't talk about religion, don't talk about politics.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
My point on that is, you know, if the sports, well,
if you're close and your friends, like I asked a
bunch of people work, you know, and Laura has she's
a periodic prayer. Julia is a prayer. She's got her
little methodology. But what is cool, Like I wish everyone
in the company was here and we could ask them
just because it's fun to understand how they do it,

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if they do, if they don't, what they say, what
their thoughts are, because you think about it, it's something
that's very personal and very into your own world.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Man, and you hear some yeah, and hearing anybody's take
on it is revealing someone you work with for four
or five four years.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
There's other you know lesson and not really in the book,
but they think about you know, they say, a problem
shared is already halfed, right, and they say, also, if
it's only in your only your head, you're only talking
to one person, what if that person's crazy and it's you? Right,
So if we made it more of an accessible because

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I guarantee some of them be funny, right, Oh I
do this? You like that kind of prayer? Is that?
But if we lighten up and are not afraid to
share faith or our thoughts, it's probably a good thing.
And that's part of what this book is about, is
stimulating your own thoughts and hopefully your intimacy or closeness

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and wingmen to share these things and talk about them.
What the heck? See what happens?

Speaker 2 (22:46):
YEA certainly safer these days than politics.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Well, it's not to me once again that you may
be getting into the Pollock word. It's more what's your prayer?
I'm not asking you your religion. What do you think?

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (23:02):
And what makes you thick? We're friends, let's talk about it.
And if something's really weird, you go, oh that's cool. Hey,
look the time. Yeah book, Yeah, we had that discussion.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Absolutely absolutely. But you're listening to Arthur Lee, Rick Thatcher.
You're listening to the Man in the Arena. We're talking
about the book. And we have a very special guest
from the Life Act Community, the CEO of Choral Medical
mister Travis Harris, all the way from Tennessee, joining us
today on the Man in the Arena.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
How are you guys doing today.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
We're good, Ben, I'm it's so nice that we haven't
talked in a while.

Speaker 6 (23:37):
How you been I've been great, or how about you good?

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Good?

Speaker 6 (23:41):
Well?

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Okay, so here you go. This is scary answer to him.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Prayer do you pray?

Speaker 6 (23:45):
I do every day, you know, most night?

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Okay, all right?

Speaker 6 (23:49):
You know, I think one of the things that you
find is that we all pray when we need something.
And what I've been struggling with is praying when I
don't need him, singing and praying for being grateful for
what I've been given. And you know, as business leaders,
we carry a lot of weight around all the time.
You know, we try to control everything. We try to
control outcomes. And one of the things that one of

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our leaders shared with me that I really it really
was impactful, was, you know, just to give it up
in prayer. It helps relieve something because we all we're
worried about our employees they're taking care of, We're worried
about our customers that we're doing the right things, and
there's so much stress and anxiety that's created by trying
to control those outcomes. So to me, prayer for giving

(24:35):
some of that up has really been beneficial for me.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
I see, you know, I have a deep feeling that
God has a sense of humor, and it's mostly because
of giraffes, because I think that just right. So that
was my foundational understanding that that guy's got a sense
of humor. But there's an old saying that helps in
that exact challenge your face with. It says, if you

(25:01):
want to make God laugh, make plans. Basically, it's the
underlying thing and why you're saying I need to just
kind of pray in general and not for X y
Z is our plans are subjective to anything. So relax,
you know, do your best and give it up like
I did. You read my book, Travis. I don't do

(25:25):
business with Travis anymore. No, I'm kidding, that's on us.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
We'll get you a copy.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
But in there the basically the it's the today's discussion
is about what you said and growing our prayer to
kind of pray for strength and wisdom and you know,
Pete we love and letting the rest of her go.
You know.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, So we're talking with Travis Harris, CEO of Choral Medical,
and we want to hear it where the audience saw
our audiences in l A, Houston, Orlando, and here in
New York US tell our audience what Choro Medical is
all about.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
Choro Medical is a company that you know, we focus
on helping our customers, whether it be a school, a business, police,
whether it be electrical company that has a bunch of trucks.
We help them prepare for sometimes deadly emergencies that can
happen every day. And you know, we at QOR we

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kind of live in the gap between when an incident
happens and a professional rescuer gets on seene and what
we want to do during that gap is to provide
the everyday person, the every day lay responder, somebody who's
working that job, somebody who may be a school teacher,
a childcare teacher, you name it, to be able to

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act in that moment to preserve life or save a life.
And we want to provide the tools and knowledge, the
training to give them the ability to do that. So
that's what we do it CORO. Whether it be a
cardiac emergency, whether it be a severe bleed, whether it
be a choking event, we want to provide the tools
and the knowledge for those lay responders to be able.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
To act okay, and I know in particular. First I
want to ask you how you connected with the good
folks at life Back.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
You know, I started seeing life Back on social media
ads several years ago, and I bought four Life Facts.
I bought one for my home, I bought one for
each of my adult children to have for their families,
and that was my first connection with life BacT. I
learned about more about Life Fact later and was able

(27:42):
to connect with Heidi and author and team to be
able to become a distributor for Life Back to help
provide this to our customers.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
One of the lucky few. I mean, we have a
network of great individuals like yourself, whether they're mostly training.
So I do want to not miss the opportunity to
talk about AED three sixty five and the wonderful work
you're doing in Tennessee schools.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Well, wait, does it get going off the Prayricide right?
You can almost see this the book Foundational Stories mostly
David and Glide stuff where you tell you learn a
lesson because you're listening to a story, not being told
what to do. So his man of faith, feeling in
the need of life and death, seeing something that can

(28:23):
do that and help and then take an action to
do something. Now, think about the depth of that connection. Right,
If you are a person that cares and has depth, right,
and you say I could save lives, I can make
a difference your faith and strength say I gotta go
do that. It's like my shootings thought. So Travis, I'm

(28:46):
connecting the dots. You know, we talked when you were
working to get it in the schools, and you know,
I knew you were a good man, and I think
I conveyed that I wanted to do whatever I needed to.

Speaker 6 (28:58):
Do absolutely, you know, and talk a little bit about
that particular opportunity. We were working with an organization out
of Tennessee called Signal Centers, and Signal Centers is contracted
by the State of Tennessee and their Department of Human
Services and their goals to administer systems of professional development

(29:23):
and standards of care and best practices to all the
childcare centers in Tennessee. And we were working with them
on a different project and it became apparent that they
were looking for a safety backpack. And so after talking
a lot about what they wanted in that backpack, I
brought up the Life Back. The life Back hits really
close to home for me. I've actually done the Heimlich

(29:46):
three times and I've had it done on me once,
so I know firsthand choking is a very big issue.
And so I suggested that in that safety backpack that
Kora Medical built for them and distributed fifteen thousand childcare
classrooms throughout the state of Tennessee, that we also include

(30:06):
a life back you know. That backpack included first aid, kids,
bleeding control kits, and a host of other safety related items,
but Paramount we wanted to make sure it had a
life that because kids choking is a big issue and
we wanted to make sure we equip them with that.
So they have fifteen thousand lifetacts and Arthur was very

(30:29):
generous and giving us a great price to do that,
so those are distributed in every childcare center.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
That's amazing, you know, and I am blessed that I
never stopped getting a chill, you know, like my hand
stands up, and I'm grateful because that means I am
still human and my body is still inspired by that.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
And you don't get numb to it.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Well, I'm not making it up. My body is saying,
oh my god, that's fantastic. So I appreciate my body
telling me that. But thank you, buddy, thank you. What
the depth of that? He asked? He was speaking, I'm like,
we're coming up on three thousand children saved, right, and
it's guys like Travis, building off today's conversation that faith

(31:15):
doing something right. And we actually we were laughing at
I was like gold nuts, Like right, Travis, I was like,
we gotta do.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
It is yeah, yeah, no doubt the author it. To
your point, I got into the AD space roughly nineteen
years ago, and when I got into it, I thought, Okay,
this would be a good job or a good career.
Little did I know it was gonna become my calling
because I don't know how I could ever get passionate
about anything other than impacting people's lives and helping to

(31:46):
provide life saving tools. And then when you meet the
people who are saved, oh man, it just changes everything.
So you have a passion about life act that is
unmatched that I really appreciate. Had the same passion with ADS,
and now I have a passion for life back as well.
So it's amazing what you can do with that passion.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Well, well, you know, yeah, It's something that I've been
circulating in my brain where you know, you have to
have faith long enough for to have faith in faith.
So it's kind of like a you know, you have
to believe until you get the result, but if you
stop believing, the result won't come and you could blame
then that faith doesn't work. But when you said that,

(32:30):
you know, I had a former career. I built a
company and I sold it, and you know, I was
passionate about it, but in different ways. But my family
build a business blah blah blah, the whole different level
when it turns into the difference of life and death.
And I have had the blessing of meeting a kid, JD.
You know, and he's one of he was saved down

(32:51):
in South Carolina and his family is freaking awesome. And
I went down on my knee to shake his hand
and said, hey, JD, I'm Art And he put his
arms around my neck, his legs around my chest and
hugged me like a bug, and he said, thank you
for saving my life. Right. Wow, the impact of that.

(33:14):
You know, I was passionate because I know I love
my daughter and everyone loves their kid the same. So
I don't want them to lose their kid, because I've
been through that and it's horrible. Not a child, but
the positive side of that kid hugging me and saying
thank you for saving my life. You know. Yeah, And
I think that you know, you're similar paths, right, It

(33:35):
is a good job. And then all of a sudden
you're like, oh my god, you know I have my
MISSI difference.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
And we're in Tennessee. And what I was struck with
knowing on a national basis the project and you've done,
you know, the most generous thing I've heard of, which
is offer a free Life Act unit to any school
that would go so far as to request one. It's
not that difficult. Request a life back and you'll get

(34:03):
one for free. And yet twenty percent on average nationwide,
What would you say in Tennessee is the percentage of
schools that are now equipped and protected with Life Act?

Speaker 6 (34:15):
You know, I don't know the percentage of schools. I
know the childcare centers are one hundred percent. Hey now,
and when we look at you know, the project you're
speaking about, Project eighty three sixty five. So we were
a little bit of a story behind that. We were
named by the NFL Smartheart Sports Coalition as one of
the two preferred vendors in the DeMar Hamlet event where

(34:38):
we all saw him go down a couple of years
ago on the field with the Bills. He was saved
by a Zol defibrillator and I worked for Zol for
eighteen years. So the NFL wanted somebody who had all
brands of ADS, which we have at CORO, and so
they chose us to be one of their preferred suppliers
to offer highly counted AEDs to schools and use athletics

(35:03):
and to try to make that to bring more light
to that, we decided to kick off Project eighty three
sixty five. Well, we're going to donate an AD every
day for three hundred and sixty five days.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Oh, that's cool, And the.

Speaker 6 (35:15):
More I thought about it, we also donate an HSI
a d CPR training for that, and we partnered with
Zola and HSI for that. But the more I thought
about it, after doing this project in the state of Tennessee,
I reached out to the author and I said, hey,
you guys want to be a part of this, and
he generously offered to donate one a day for three

(35:35):
hundred and sixty five days as part of our eighty
three sixty five.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
So does wait, you know what's funny?

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Mike? Play it? I cut yoursel off.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
I almost said rupted and said because I forgot, I
think we're I was going to say.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
We should do anyone too, we already did that ahead.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
I was to crack it by yourself up if my old.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Head, Travis, I just wanted to know if you can
stick around because we need to step out for a
quick break. You'll hear more with Travis horwrisse E of
Corea Medical, along with Arthur Lee and Rick Fcher with
Life Back and you are listening to the man in
the arena join us on the other side.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
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over and I saw him grabbing for his face. That's true.
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his face and place push, pull the life back, dislodge
the ice cube from his airway. When he started crying,
the most amazing sound I've ever heard in my entire life.

(36:29):
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Speaker 1 (38:03):
Now on iHeartRadio, more of the Man in the Arena,
the Life Back Radio Show. Here again are Arthur Lee
and Rick Thatcher talking.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
To Travis Hayer, CEO of Core Medical. We've been talking
about prayer, but we've also been talking about the incredible
work that Travis is doing.

Speaker 6 (38:21):
Well.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
The prayer led to a three sixty five amazing. You
don't do this kind of thing where you're giving away
things and passionate about saving life without a background in
some form of strength, faith and love. So Travis, you
were in the middle. Keep going.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Tell us more about and how can people find your company?

Speaker 6 (38:39):
Obviously Project eighty three sixty five I think I shared
earlier that we are giving away a sold eighty three
an HSI training class and a life back along with
program management to help manage the ads, and you can
register for that in one of two spots. You can
go to ad dot us. You can go to Smarttheart

(39:01):
a E D dot com Smart Heeart a E D
dot com. Our traditional business website is a D dot
U s A E D dot U s so UH.
In either spot you can go register and like I said,
we're giving away an A D every day. We're trying
to focus on school's youth athletics and then other places

(39:24):
that may not have, you know, underprivileged areas that may
not have the ability to purchase an A D. Because
we think that where you live shouldn't determine if you live.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
I'm with you, and this is primarily in Tennessee. This
is nationwide. Wow.

Speaker 6 (39:42):
Yeah, we're.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Satisfied with just fixing.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
My small brand. I saw you Medical.

Speaker 6 (39:53):
We're part of a worldwide organization. We're owned by a
company called safe Life and UH. Safe Life is accumulation
today of thirty two distributors throughout the US, Canada, and Europe,
and probably in the next quarter or two it'll be
closed to forty distributors worldwide and continuing to grow that.
So we are a nationwide company. We serve out of Cora.

(40:18):
We serve the entire US SO ads with stop the
bleed kits, with life Action, you name it, anything that
can help fulfill that position of saving a life or
providing the tools that help the gap.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah, so as we approach and we attack that number
I talked about earlier, you know, if eighty percent of
the schools across the country and you've been successful to
some degree in Tennessee, what are the plans along with ours?
Because I don't know, I was going to ask you
about the size of Chora Medical, but I mean half
the team is on the radio right now. It tacks

(40:55):
a small.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Passionate team, travitsdy something. Obviously it's kind of on the show,
but we're talking. So that's what I do. What do
you would any thoughts on how whether we give them
away we promote to the special needs local micro Tennessee
in the world like that is one of my passions
because of the you know, recently the Red Cross came

(41:18):
out with recommendation that if protocol fails, you can use
a suction device or if it's not feasible. Right, so
it's the first time in history the lack of an
option for people with certain disabilities, be the wheelchair and
neck base. There's all sorts of you know, of ways

(41:38):
where you got nothing. Do you think of anything on
the top of your head, and how we could get
that to those special needs veterans in Tennessee have to.

Speaker 6 (41:49):
Put some thought to that. It's you know, getting people
to understand that they need something like an AD or
a life back is first and foremost hard to do
and a lot.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Of until something bad happens, right.

Speaker 6 (42:03):
Exactly, that's normally the catalyst is when something bad happens.
I know it has been for a DS and and
I think it's probably the same for an anti choking device.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Well, I'm glad that I did this publicly, so now
you were responsible to figure it out because you know,
I look, when I see that passion, then man, let's
throw some more what on it. But the key, the
key is that they need it. You know, they need
he wants to use an accelerate. That's why, right the gas,

(42:36):
Let's pull some stuff up. But it's where it needs
to be. And I'm proud and honored to be able
to talk to you like that and and share you know,
our missions in my mission and specifically in that environment.

Speaker 6 (42:51):
Yeah, you know, one of the things that I shared
with Heidi recently and talking to her, was that I'm
going to do a promotion where somebody buys an ad
they get a free life back. So we'll be working
on that to try to drive some of that interest
as well, so you'll see that soon.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Well, you know what we're on the show, The Man
in the Arena, and what it's about is men women
in the arena where you are making sacrifices, given by
and giving away and pushing yourself. You know, we're not
going to be on the big news show tonight, but
we are going to change the world. And the difference

(43:30):
is we are the people in the arena. We We're
the ones that get beat up. We're the ones that
get up and keep trying and face challenges and know
that we need to, you know, provide solutions and save lives.
So I'm proud to know you. I clicked with you
right from the beginning, and I'm very grateful for what

(43:50):
you do.

Speaker 6 (43:50):
Well, I appreciate it. Art. It's been an absolute pleasure
of partnering with you. And it's funny when I see
you on TV, I always tell my wife there's art is.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Well. I'm the only I think I might be the
only advertiser that can't wait for his commercial to come on.
So I can see my daughter. So I actually watched
my old commercial because I love to see her little
and then big and then I cry a little, but
thank you, and you know, you know, we're all trying
to change the world. Get the awareness out travelers. The

(44:23):
other day we saved seventeen lives in one day and wow, yeah,
setting new records, right, yeah, And I think it was
you know in the prayer world got pokes in and
kind of gives me, ah, you got this moment's too.
You know it challenges us, but it will also show
you that, yes, I told you keep going because in essence,

(44:44):
the averages sixteen people you day die now our seventeen
were reported where you could go yesterday, two days whatever.
But for my my vision, I had a moment of saying,
for the first time in the history of man, no
one choked to death today. And you know what, it
wasn't statistical, but it will.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Happen absolutely when we get that number five thousand to
zero or off the chart. That's when your mission.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
These two the same thing. Man can we can save
so many the men in the arena and the women
in the arena, because Heidi is definitely a woman in
the arena. She's in there with us, swinging away and
every lifebacker is.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah, Travis, Well, Heidi wasn't able to join us talk
about Heidie Felix and and your relationship.

Speaker 6 (45:35):
You know, Heidi has accomplished something, and Arthur, I don't
even know if you know how well she's done with this.
It normally takes years to go create a distribution channel
as strong as she's created in just a couple of years,
I mean ten years. Normally it takes. And she's out
there getting to know everybody in the space. And it's

(45:57):
funny as I talked to her, I've been the space
for in the safety space, selling ads and providing solutions
for that for almost nineteen years now, and she's been
at it for what two or three years out there
in the distribution space, and she knows everybody on it.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
I think accidentally, God put like six people in her
when she came down, like the assembly line got stuck
and it just kept going boom boom boom, and then
I think a giraffe came out, So it was Heidi
with six people the.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Giraffe, and the giraffe got all your attention.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
But Well made know he had a sense of you
but she is an amazing president her her cardholders. Please
stop me from volunteering, because she will help anyone. And
I love hearing people like Travis tell me about her,
and I am very grateful for her soul and her
passion and every life backer man. Our foundation is soul

(46:53):
and passion. And you know, I was a truck driver,
Mike was a cop, Mike was a finance guy.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Mat it's different when it's this measurable impact. I say
it was in three decades in healthcare, reducing risk and
eliminating that, you know, diabetes, heart disease. But nothing has
a face a number. You talk about the numbers, but
like this life, this family, this community was spared today.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Travis, did you see have you seen pictures of the
whole saves?

Speaker 6 (47:25):
I have seen that.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
You got to come see it someday.

Speaker 6 (47:28):
Yeah, it's really inspiring because not only do you say
seventeen lives that day, you impacted probably one hundred lives
of family and friends who loved that person.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
The circle.

Speaker 6 (47:41):
Yeah, it's a huge impact. One person's probably impact in
fifteen or twenty. So when you look at it, it's
it's much bigger than the seventeen lives it's probably hundreds
of people who would have been devastated if they had
lost that.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
Well, and the first responders, Well, I relate to this survivor, right,
because that was me. My two friends died and I
had to be here and see the devastation and feel
that pain for decades the person's gone. So when I'm
in the hole of saves, that's what I think of.
I'm very grateful that that person's still here, but I

(48:18):
know how horrible it is if he wasn't. And Travis
picked it up right that the impact we have isn't
necessarily on the save, it's on the people that love them.
How many lives have been destroyed, the loss of a child,
loss of a loved one, and you can't go on.
I don't blame it to some extent, so I appreciate. See,
that's why we're life ackers, and you are too, because

(48:41):
you get it right, You get the importance of what
we're doing. It's not just today we say the life
great for us, it's we save that life. We say
the parents and grandparents and friends in the community. Absolutely,
and also the peace of mind that you cannot be
fear and also hope in life. Right, we can make
a difference.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Let's go you know what, we should celebrate stuff. Yes,
let's sell. I'm sure back now, back on Long Island,
she is doing something right now. But I like to celebrate. Also,
we celebrate saves every day. But I think it's also
important because we always send the life bacts out with
say a prayer, hope you never have to use it.

(49:19):
If you think about all of the protected lives every
day that go out from the warehouse in Wisconsin and
go out and find their ways to homes, communities, families
where they're protected far greater than the safe those are
no question important.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
But we protected every child care in the state. Amazing,
freaking awesome.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Is that It's fantastic.

Speaker 6 (49:45):
Yeah, and I'm certain, I'm certain that we'll be talking
about saying.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Oh we will, buddy, that's a given. That's the relentless
rising tide of choking. It's gonna happen, but we're going
to knock it out of the park. And someday we're
all gonna be sitting there going, hey, you know what,
no one's choke it anymore.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
I know that.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Happened in the past, in the past, Ye remember those days,
and you turn the knob on the TV and stuff
like that.

Speaker 6 (50:11):
Oh you mean before a life at Listen the day
I was choking, I wish I'd had a life back.
I was actually sneaking away from work to play golf.
This has then twenty five, twenty six years ago, and
I got a piece of ham stuck over my windpipe.
I was running into the golf cart doing everything I

(50:32):
could to dislodge it, and I couldn't. And finally you
guy saw me and uh, it took him quite a
while to get it out. But man, if I'd have
had a life back in my golf bag, I would
have been set.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
You know what, there may be in the last discussion
of the prayer. There may be a reason that you
were taught that lesson because you just got every school,
every childcare in the state is not going down that moment.
It's worse. So the big guy was teaching you something there, Pal,
And yeah, I appreciate you sharing it, and that is

(51:08):
a good thing to know. Be prepared. We can do this.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Travis Hawer, CEO of Coora Medical. Any parting thoughts, anything
coming up that we should know about, Well.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Give us your do the sites again so that you know, Oh, yeah, absolutely,
particularly in an ae D three sixty five free Life
Back free fib give you site again, make sure people know, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (51:27):
It's a ED dot us or smartthearta ed dot com
is the place where schools can get a EDS for
highly discounted rates. Our normal site is a D dot
us and we have the life Back on that site,
and we also have a place on that site where

(51:48):
you can get you can apply for the project eighty
three sixty five free a D training class and Life Back.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Appreciate you, you're a life back. We're all right, man,
keep going and we'll see you along the way.

Speaker 6 (52:02):
All right, you guys, have a great day. Thanks.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
It's amazing, interesting in your circle, amazing in this country.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
What do you think people are going to think of
this show like I've never heard anyone talk about like
prayer like that. To me, the point of it is,
it's our own piece of equipment in our life, in
our decision making. And once again, I'm not phenomenal. I
don't go to church. I have faith, but it's kind
of self built. I was always confused by a lot

(52:31):
of the things we do in church. I didn't understand
why we were doing them. What deck was going on.
So now I analyzed my prayer and opened it up
to ask, do you pray sure every night?

Speaker 2 (52:45):
No?

Speaker 3 (52:45):
No? And is it a route prayer like you blah
blah blah blah blah blah, you know it or is
it created on the moment.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
That's a great question. So with the kids, if I
was praying with the kids, it was interesting. It was
a recited like our father. No late, Now I lay
me down to sleep, Okay, I pray to the Lord and
soul to keep think about how important that little statement is.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Right, we sit there. You know you could live every
day like at your last, but you can't really do that.
It's like, please don't stay within yourself, all right, don't
hurt yourself. So the point is in these route prayers
is Withsdom and wisdom is good, right, it's awareness.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Right right, And we continue on this journey talking about sorry,
can't just allow your book talking about Life Act and
the incredible impact that's made on this world. You say,
changing the world, you meant it. We'll be back next week.
I'm Rick. I'm with Arthur Lee, CEO and ventor of
Life Act on the Man in the Arena.

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