Ultimate Wing Man

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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What inspired Arthur Lee protecting his daughter and then the
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his book, Sorry Can't Is a Lie, and hear from
other men and women in their arenas. Get ready to
be inspired. Welcome to the Man in the arena. I'm
Rick Thatcher along with Arthur Lee and Steve OLIVERI of

(01:14):
course Arthur leegend yes, And why is Steve here? Because
he's a great guest number one, and also because he
fits the category that you talk about in your book,
Sorry Can't is a lie of a wingman ultimate wingman.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, well, we got a kind of cool show, I
think with everything that's going on and some of the
other episodes we cover with you know, you can't believe
what you see? How do we develop friendships when we
can't believe anything? That it was time to retalk about it.
And and it also is important because you know Mike
Grove's song and we have an awesome guest that I'll

(01:49):
come friends with that is his wingman. So cool show.
Com really gratitude for our friends I think would be
a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Steve, welcome again. Always a pleasure to have you back.
We're supposed to be here. Yeah, how far back now
as far as wingman, were you immediate wingman.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
To mister Arthurly, would you.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Say the first thing I came in we were in
associated Yeah, in that stupid little closet. Well, you you were,
You were just another I was.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
I was.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
I was just an agent like you in the beginning,
and then I became what they call a lead agent.
And from that point on I was kind of like
when were you in my book, kind of like six
months after we met.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, that work out.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
I worked out wonderful. Was he tough to manage?

Speaker 5 (02:38):
Uh No, he operations, you know, being specific on paper
and stuff like that wasn't a strong It wasn't a
strong suit. But his selling ability was always as strong.
His personality passion is able to talk to people's passion
selling the product.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
He was.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
He was in the inside guy for a long time
and he was just making things happen. He kept on
building stuff and bringing more accounts in and stuff like that,
which eventually led him into becoming an outside rep. When
after it became an outside rep, he was vice president.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
No time it said, you know, it became something. I
just made it up. I made my own position. I
had my own assistant, which is really the president's assistant.
I was just winging in and yeah, but you would
always I used to interrupt Norman and Terry and be like,
he was the owner of the company. Yeah, but his
assistant charge friends, and so she would like do my

(03:36):
admin work. But it really got to the point where
I'd be like, I'm trying to get some work done.
And he was such a good guy.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
I must have appreciated because you were doing work for
the company.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I just I used to get
yelled at for running because I would run in the
office to get your getting stuff done. And I remember
going by Loose Santango's door, so I would run to
the door and then i'd walk real quick then run again.
But I guess looking back, I might have looked like
a little bit of a lunatic because I remember getting

(04:07):
looks from like all the regular people because I'm this
little schmo and customer service, and I'd be in meetings
with the president, the owner of the vice president and me,
and they'd be like, what the heck is that kid doing.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
You know, I can see it now, and you've talked
about this where you wouldn't have the passion that you
have now, but I believe that you did saying that
I'm representing like shipping or logistics and doing those types
of things, and now you save lives.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Well, I was always one hundred and tent whatever it was,
and you know, I go back to when I clean
rooms of grumming, and I brought in my cleaning splies
and my chrome. I took apart the sinks and clean
them better, and they were like blinding. But you know,
you don't and you don't know how much you meant
to me in that. And you know, that was my
first kind of comeback from the accident. Right, So I

(04:56):
had my accident. I got my shoulder operated on and
at mobile part and it was all these problems, and
then you know, I was now graduated. I had worked
in air freight for a long time, but in you know,
driving the truck, working on the dock, and then I
did some office work and it was really nothing. I
didn't know what the heck guy was going to do.

(05:17):
And it came in and got an interview and got
the job. And when I first came in, we were
in a little closet. I mean it was.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Probably a little bigger than this whole area.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Seriously, it was him, this guy Ri kal Kak. It
was just me, you and kal Kaka.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
And then Larry Healy was the guy that was the manager.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Of Yeah, he left like soon after I was and
then it was the Allen. Yes, right, yes, but this
is just a few listening that was what forty years ago, No,
we're sixties, so yeah, it was great around yeah, around
around forty years but him being who he is, became

(05:55):
a friend of mine. He says, you know, you were
kind of quiet in the beginning. It was such a lunatic.
I was still trying not to kill myself, you know,
just because literally, Yeah, it was very true my life.
But when you go into the wingman segment and combining
it with some of the challenges of being on your
phone and texting, you don't know the impact someone can have.

(06:17):
Like in our audience, my friend from second grade, right,
I came up with the life back. He's like, I'm it,
what do you need? And I think it's more important
than ever to talk about our wingmen and women and
honor them well and just share the importance of developing
those deep friendships and the good ones, the ones that

(06:37):
will last a lifetime. Second grade and when I was
doing life back in the beginning, most people that they
didn't know for the forty years or in second grade said, yeah,
good luck with Thatch.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
You're crazy.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
You take a sing plunder and change the world. Yeah,
of course you are. Holy cow, honey, don't answer the
door when that guy comes by. Well you were the
first one. Well, first off, Steve the story of me
right because I was a wingman to you that.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, let me ask you before, Steve, before we get
into the story.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
I'm just curious because I'm.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Thinking about it in my head that you know each
other for a while through work. How many other people
visited you when you're with your mom in the hospital.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Is a lunatic cousins?

Speaker 4 (07:19):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, you know you really,
what do you expect anyone from work?

Speaker 5 (07:26):
No, nobody from work came. No, author was the only
guy from work. But you know, sometimes you really find
out when you really need help who your real friends are,
you know, so when your cards are down, those are the.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
People you know.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
And I also think that winmen come in and out
of people's lives to help them. Some people don't even
realize they're a wing man, you know, and all of
a sudden they're gone, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
So I have anything on a wingman the ability, because
have people like that too, you cannot talk to five years,
you'd pick them up. So I'm in town. My car
broke down. They'd say, I'm on my way right because
you're in theres and you know there and your Yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
Yeah, So I was down, my mom was in ICU,
and uh, the next thing I know, Audi's outside ICU
calling me saying, hey, what are you doing. I'm here
to hang out, you know, help me because you know
it was tough. It was a tough time, sure. And
then we went down to the cafeteria and we started
talking about choking, and that's how the whole story.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Well, no, we were upstairs in the waiting where your
mom was like just borrowing the door. Freaked me out. Yeah,
a lot of people they thought I was created.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, a lot of people hearing this for the first time.
So talk about you know, you relaying what you saw
the day before.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
Well, what happened was when Autie was there, there was
a gurney and I said to Ardie, you know, last
time I was in the hospital, I watched the child
pass away from choking and started with that story. And
then from that story in the in the hallway really
where the gurney was. Then we went downstairs into the
cafeteria and then we started elaborating a little bit more
on the story. And then what happened was the next

(08:54):
day Audie didn't sleep all night, right, which is not
unusual for me to get a text message in it
didn't sleeping, and he sent me a picture of a
prototype that he made that night, and it was there
was a product that was out of the years, wax
out of there, and he put a mask on it.
And he actually called the guy I think you actually

(09:16):
called it.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Oh, I was trying to see if I get a
SEE two cartridge to make it spin quicker, to create
more suction and you click it like a gun.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
But what did the iar wax guys say?

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Well, it turned out they were total scam and they
avoided the.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Fortunately it was safe because they were dealing with iarwax.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
Yeah, so then, uh, you know, he said to me,
I can't get the story out of the head.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
So you know, we talked about a lot of things.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah, we have a very funny story.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
Yeah, we have God and telling the intellectual conversations going
over that's another story. So you know, he said, I
can't get into my head. I'm gonna vent something and
kind of like, okay, but I'm used to that, you know,
So I'm like and I read the book. You'll know
Ardi Ardi is spased.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
By the way I get the book. Sorry, can't is
a lie.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
You can get it now through a publisher, but you
can also get at the website Life back right.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
But you know for Amazon.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
For me him saying that I know something's going to
come out of that, most people are like, okay, whatever
you want to do.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Eventually it came out of it.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
I knew like he was hot on it, and then
eventually he did his first PLA.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
To keep in mind that when we spent we spent
ten years that associated and he and I were together,
you know, ninety nine percent he was my boss. I
was in trouble. But you know, after that, I started
my own company and Steve was developing fantastic on Global
and I told him that'll be part times Steve. And

(10:43):
then twenty years later, the kid almost dying because he
worked forty eight hours a day.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
But uh, we're going.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
That was when I started, I asked.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Yeah, he came.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
He literally Aladi fund, gave me a little bonus and
like he was was actually investing starting a trading company.
It was basically selling Holly Davison's overseas.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
That was the idea.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Well together, we've had a great idea.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
He comes over and I'm working on my mom's bedroom
in a closet and he comes just the mom that
Arthur fell on.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yes, all right, fall on. I tackled.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
The great thing about my mom is she soul lie
before she passed on. Yeah, And she said to me
she held it in the hands and said he's got something.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
And finally said that she knew me as.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
A little yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and she knows you know,
And what did you tackle her again?

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Hug? She was big and we fell over the bed
and got stuck in between the bed and the wall.
Things happened, And I.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Think we've covered this on early show. Miss Olivery came
in and said, Steve, could we could.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Have a hundred shows on me and to circle back
the development of wingmen in your life. And then because
of this, going from being in a closet and him
and his bed and doing something right and the ability
to embrace your wingman. You know, I was looking Jaggie
as too, you know, and I have Lenny sitting here

(12:10):
from second grade. Stevie are forty years Mike saying a
ball on a stupid wingman. But they were there a handful, right,
but not one or two, And I worry with the
phone that they'll be not like I don't know how
you get the depth of the relationship like we did right.
Our immediate friends were geographic. It was the guy next door,

(12:33):
same block, someone you go, I used to ride my
bike to Lenny's house and now you could be texting.
And it's concerning because to do what we did right
with life back, you really need wingmen and those are
people that are going to be there and take the
risk and you know, take a dream and say maybe

(12:54):
you can do it. I'm in I'll ope it. So
I think, Uh, the storeorry in today's segment is about
being conscious. You know, who are you wing man? How
do he be one? How do he get one? And
what you can accomplish when you have them. So you know,
we are the ultimate example and the fact that you know,

(13:17):
I was in the lowest bot of my life when
I came into that stupid office and it really, in
essence saved my life. And you know you were a
big part of that. So you didn't know, you know,
not a long time before we ever approached that, all right, right.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
So it was quite interesting when we went out for
the first time because when he because when we worked,
he was just being this guy Rica.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
He was just this.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Quiet little guy and he never really talked. You didn't
see him in the element o. My god, when I
saw him, probably a good time.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
So he says, comes out to meet my friends, and
I'm like, we're gonna lie very well we're doing. And
then that was that was the first time we all
went out. Yeah, like, you know, I brought some of
my crew different than I didn't know was back up
because I don't know this guy was up to.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
And I'm looking at him. My friend's like, your friend's
really nutty, dude, he's really nutty.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
That's the same guy that I work And I remember
talking to Rick. I'm like, he's crazy, because.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah, because you had concerns about me, we.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Had some concerns and then we all found it.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, well, listen, we have another wingman for so excited
coming up when we come back from the break, So
join us on the other side for more of the
Man in the Arena.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1 (17:10):
Now on iHeartRadio more of the Man in the Arena,
the Life Back Radio Show Here and again are Arthur Lee,
and Rick Thatcher and.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Steve OLIVERI partily, of course, the CEO and inventor of
Life Back, and we are blessed to be joined by
Chuck Klausmeyer, Senior creative producer, and the micro Works.

Speaker 6 (17:32):
Everybody hold your oh stop, you heard it?

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Man?

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Did you hear that? Because you insisted on applause on
the show.

Speaker 6 (17:38):
It's in my rider for sure, it is.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
We signed that track. What uh did? Were you listening
to the first part? Then? Did you hear us?

Speaker 6 (17:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (17:46):
I heard about fifteen minutes you guys talking about the
wingman stuff. I'm really curious as to how you wound
up on Steve's mom.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
That's that doesn't know, you know, that's a teaser in
the business. That's Fansie jumping the shark. He got to
tune in next week to find out about me tackling
his mom. But for you, I mean, one of the
one of the really cool things that has happened as
we tried to get the world out there is you

(18:13):
meet different people, you know, and when we met Chuck
and we did that segment with Mike that he was
so gracious to have me on You get to know them, right,
And you were doing a segment with Mike. You have
the exact language with me, but you said something. He
said something like how long have we known each other? Right?

(18:34):
And how long have you known Mike?

Speaker 6 (18:36):
Forty four years? Maybe something like right.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
So, and then you know, we had the good fortune
to hang out and to go to you know, Brian
Kill Me show and yeah, through the valley of five
hours to meet you got to meet you.

Speaker 6 (18:54):
It was It was a good time.

Speaker 8 (18:56):
And it's good that you bring that up because I
was just looking through my phone does and uh.

Speaker 6 (19:01):
You were a wingman in Vegas.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Ah.

Speaker 6 (19:03):
Yeah, we were walking through the casino and somebody said,
is that Chuck?

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Oh that's right.

Speaker 8 (19:11):
Will you remember this? Yeah, pretty blonde comes up? You
are you Mike Rose Chuck?

Speaker 6 (19:16):
Yeah, Like, well I've never been called that before.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
But yeah, take it. That was hard. You were the
celebrity there. I hung in with you. Man, I was
flighting up, which isn't hard.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Listen to listen to this thing that I just called
from the internet. Micro was asked you know, how do
you get to be Chuck? How do you get you
had to get to be a wingman? And he said,
that's easy. Be my friend for forty two years, show
up whenever I tell you to go, and wear whatever
costume I tell you to wear. There's only one Chuck Klausmyer,
I'm afraid, and he is in much of what I do.

(19:48):
Because the older I get, the more important old friends become,
especially ones with talent.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
Where'd you dig that up?

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Rick? Mike? He was worried that you were going to
dump them? But hey, how nice is that that? You
didn't even know that?

Speaker 8 (20:05):
Yeah, I don't know what that where he said that,
but that sure is nice.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Now you feel me like you heard the thing, and
me and Steve will go way back. And my second
great friend is sitting in the vast audience so too.
But that's Mike, right, Yeah, how'd you first meet Mike?

Speaker 8 (20:23):
You know, I don't remember the exact moment, but I
know that it was in high school. I believe it
was nineteen seventy eight or seventy nine, one of those two.
And we were both in the music class. Okay, we
both sang bass at that time, so we were sitting
next to each other, and we became friend.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
When we're older, we don't have to rely on faith.
We have a basis of education. Right when you're younger,
you think you guys a great guy and you hope
that they'll be there for you and you'll be there
for them. What do you think it was that made
you guys stay together?

Speaker 8 (20:57):
You know, we could tell each other anything, you know,
and you know, I can count on one finger.

Speaker 6 (21:04):
Maybe the times that we've been mad at each other?

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Do you really count on one finger? Isn't that just well?

Speaker 6 (21:10):
I can only think of one time it really wasn't
you know? It was really not girl.

Speaker 8 (21:16):
The way that the way that Mike describes it is
is that the older we get, the more old friends mean.

Speaker 6 (21:24):
And I think that's really true.

Speaker 8 (21:26):
You know, it's it doesn't matter how much time passes
in between seeing one another. When you do, everything falls
back to where it was the last time you saw
each other. And you can speak in a shorthand we
used to finish each other's sentences in high school, you know.
And uh so it's it's just all and just endless
practical jokes.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Oh my gosh, oh my god. We were at dinner,
and they were tell me so remember Laura was tempting
to come up with some scary Oh.

Speaker 6 (21:53):
Yeah, she really she was determined to scare me.

Speaker 8 (21:56):
But so many crazy things, you know, happened over the
I remember one time being in a bar with Mike
and we were standing off in this corner. I went
and got some drinks. I came back and we were
standing there and there was a pipe that was going down,
you know, like in the corner. It was just was

(22:18):
just a pipe by itself, and and Mike said, man,
this pipe.

Speaker 6 (22:22):
Is really weird.

Speaker 8 (22:23):
It's like if you press into it, it just uh,
it just flexes, you know. And and I go, really
and he and he pretended to do it, and then
I and then he goes give it a try, and
then I pushed into it.

Speaker 6 (22:35):
The thing was as hot as the sun. And I
just was immediately like what. He must have laughed for
two hours.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
But you know what, that's such a valid and important
point of wigman. And we are allowed to goof on
each other, We're allowed to torture each other, we're allowed
to play jokes. And I think as we distance ourselves
from the intimacy, really is right. It's a igno. I
called Steve four in the morning and tell him something
and he'd say, great, you know, shut up the idiot.

(23:05):
But he would pick it up and if I was stuck,
he'd come and get me, you know. And we've known
each other since fair Field on the soccer field and
you explaining how you're going to tell mister Watson time
and goal all the time, show him And I'm like.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
I thought you. I thought you would be an agent
for me.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Probably would have been five.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
You were a neighbor rights Watson. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
No, I love mister Watson's job. But I guess the
point is that to share for the audience and for
kids and for people that the embracing the people that
are there and could be there. And you know, look
with you and Michael Dunck, like, look what you've accomplished together,
and you know that's pretty cool.

Speaker 6 (23:50):
Yeah, it's been an amazing ride.

Speaker 8 (23:51):
Honestly, you know, I I never expected to work for
my best friend, right, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (23:57):
It's just it was the furthest thing from.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
My I used to work for my best friend.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
Yeah, he was getting into the office.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, Chuck, that's that's a cool thought.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
Chuck. There's a.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
There's a story here I have about uh you securing
a job for micro at the Baltimore Opera.

Speaker 6 (24:25):
No, actually, that's that's incorrect. It was it wasn't.

Speaker 8 (24:28):
It wasn't me at the Baltimore Opera. That was another
guy named Mike Gellard.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
You cannot trust the internet.

Speaker 6 (24:34):
You can't trust the internet.

Speaker 8 (24:35):
No, but I'll tell you I did get Mike got
me a job working at American Eagle Outfitters, the.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Same American Eagle Outfitters that are now embroiled in a controversy.

Speaker 8 (24:47):
Yes, indeed, although nobody looked like Sidney Sweeney when we
worked there, let me tell you, but it was in
Golden Rings, one of the first malls in the country,
you know, And uh, he.

Speaker 6 (24:57):
Got me the job. I came in there one day
he told me he was working. I walked in. I'm like,
what are you doing in here? He's like, I'm working.
I go, well, how do I get a job?

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Because I don't know?

Speaker 6 (25:07):
Talk to this guy?

Speaker 8 (25:08):
And you know, two days later I was working there
as well. And so one day on my lunch break,
I walked around and there were there were movie theaters
in the mall, and there were like seven of them
or something.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Multiplex.

Speaker 6 (25:22):
You were multiplex, so like one of the first.

Speaker 8 (25:24):
Like I'd never seen a multiplex before, and I loved
the movies, and I knew Mike loved the movies. So
I applied there, got a job, and I came down.
I said, hey, man, you know cause the movies were
upstairs and the American egle was downstairs.

Speaker 6 (25:39):
I came down.

Speaker 8 (25:39):
I said, I just got a job upstairs. I think
you should come up there. And sure enough he came
up as well, and you got a job.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
You got to hear something crazy. This is crazy, this
is wingman. Why I couldn't even write this, I can't
really write You and Brian and the gang all worked
at the mall, worked at the movie Who got the
first job there?

Speaker 4 (25:58):
John Cooney actually came down and then he got you.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Brian.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yep, I got Brian. Uh other guys that we went
to high school with. But so Brian killed me game
and joined us. The big question was what color was
your tuxedo jacket?

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (26:11):
Red?

Speaker 4 (26:12):
Us two.

Speaker 6 (26:14):
United Artists?

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Because look what happened him and him and Mike went
on to this incredible team create. I mean, Mike row
is awesome and is will Rogers approached the common sense
in life, and Chuck's wing man. So they're their team.
You and Brian do a show, and Chuck has some
experience with doing shows with naked people. But we'll get

(26:38):
to it. Yeah, but think about that, Think about that.
What year do you have any idea what year.

Speaker 6 (26:46):
That I was United Artists?

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (26:49):
Yeah, it was like eighty eighty one, right around right
around the time you think about in Maryland.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
In Maryland, there.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Is a potential that Chuck and Micro went to work
the ribbed tickets and you and Brian went to rib
tickets and Brian and a lot of our friends in
have them on each other's shows.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
Amazing, Rick, did.

Speaker 8 (27:11):
You ever get any of the one sheets, you know,
the posters?

Speaker 6 (27:15):
I have a couple that I'm like, I can't believe
I have it.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
I have Neighbors John Belushi and dan Aykroy Vice Squad,
which was a movie that no one really Yeah, no
one really. No Neighbors was great, But tell me, Arthur
wasn't the most prevalent movie that everyone wanted to see,
and it was in there was eighty one or eighty two,
But Arthur was Dudley Moore, Was there appropriate.

Speaker 8 (27:38):
We had a lot of them with the Shining came
through History of the World Part one.

Speaker 6 (27:43):
But the movie.

Speaker 8 (27:44):
Poster one sheet that I have, and you know the
way you know it's an original one sheet is it
has the creases they used to fold up the posters
and mail them to the theaters.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
True story.

Speaker 6 (27:54):
But I have Raiders of the Lost Arc.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Oh wow, that just so fun. It's you probably wouldn't
never sell because it's more memories than it's worth. What's
that worth? You know?

Speaker 8 (28:04):
You know, I've never I've never even looked it up,
but everybody I tell about it, that's got to be
worth something much more than my Vice Squad.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Ice Squad might have been the wrong choice.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
We quoted that movie, Mike Rogosa and I and Brian
would quote that movie and lessen because it was that bad.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
It was like bad opera.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yeah, well sometimes if it's that bad.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Wings Houser was the story he was he played Ramrod.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
But didn't let you know this is really a Vice
Squad movie. The premiere, Yes, but is it so they
think about that? So these two teams are in the movie.
Did with the red velvet jacket and then we've all
seen those two on TV. Interacting right.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
I wonder if Brian when I saw Microw talking about you,
Arthur Lee. That's an amazing, amazing little clip where he said,
you know, hey, I want to thank you for and
Brian looked a little dumbfounded at first, but then.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, I made it.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Bringing me up to him.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
But I wonder if those two guys, Brian and Micro
know that they were both U A ushers around the same.

Speaker 6 (29:14):
You know, I don't think so, I don't you know,
we've never talked about it before. I was surprised to
hear it, Rick, so you know, I'm going to mention.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
It to him back on the show.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
Movie was I was gonna say at your era, I
was an usher at the r k O movie competition
jacket black brown.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
With the big lapels.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
At some point, at some point U A did go
to brown and it was I was out of there
by that brown with A with a cream colored shirt
and the red and black.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
This show was going to go to movie and tire.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
Nobody knows.

Speaker 6 (29:50):
Let me tell you one of the extra things that
I did.

Speaker 8 (29:52):
I don't know if you did this, Rick, but we
had a giant marquee that was on a major road
where the mall was right so, and it had seven
movie theaters, so I could make an extra twenty bucks
if I would go.

Speaker 6 (30:04):
And change the side.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
You climb up the thing.

Speaker 8 (30:07):
No, no, no, had a giant you know poll you know,
extender pole and had a suction cup at the end,
and you would like put the You would lay out
the letters on the ground and then smack the suction
cup on the front of it, lift it up and
try to hit it in this where you need to
hit it, and then pull the string to unsuck the thing.

Speaker 6 (30:28):
It was. It took probably two hours to change.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
But they never they never allowed anyway. I worked on
Rockaway Boulevard.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
No, they used to give us a ladder with nobody myself,
no safety. Onceever, here's dirty letters go up there by yourself.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Seventeen They threw me twenty.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
The ladder was completely rushed out, really no protocol.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
No where was ocean when you needed them right was
definitely was.

Speaker 6 (31:00):
Yeah, And that was a job I had to do
in the rain.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
I just know it was like the milman like you
don't want Yeah, I think it's really cool and I
appreciate you being on because that those moments to come
up like that, right, are real symbols of wingmen.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Right.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
We we worked in these stupid jobs together. We we
laughed together, we grew together. You know, those jobs don't exist.
You know, he can't work at the mall and it
ain't there. You know, it doesn't exist. And you know
they changed the sign with a with a flick of
the switch. And you know a lot of the a

(31:37):
lot of our friendships were from those jobs, and and
you know, experiencing the good luck, hope you don't die,
go change the.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
This next question might be prying a little much, but
did anyone get in trouble chuck for I guess, uh
running their own checkt booth at the doors.

Speaker 6 (32:00):
No, we were smarter than that trick. We never got
in trouble.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
No, No, of course to.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
Yeah, I don't even know why. I asked let my
friends in the back.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
And you know the manage comes on one day. We
didn't sell one ticket for that.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
How is that possible? Well?

Speaker 3 (32:18):
I remember the exciting dig was with the multi data.
How you could go to the movie data, you go
in the bank room, bulbs into here when they changed
on the other line, and all these fantastic schemes that
were made together.

Speaker 6 (32:31):
I got one thing that we used to do all
the time.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
This.

Speaker 8 (32:34):
I started this and then Mike and I would take
turns whenever we had a packed house. You know, one
of the one of the jobs you had to do
is to go down to the thermostat and check the
thermostat in the theater. In our theaters, they were always
down underneath the screen or off to the side. So
you go down there, you get your little pen light
and you look, you check the temperature, and then you
walk up the center aisle again. Well, I would walk

(32:54):
up the center aisle and then I would turn around
and look and then trip over my own feet, land
my face and people would just go oh and would
They would want to help me up and everything like,
and I would limp off. So I told Mike, I said,
take a look at this. I did that once, and
then we would just that. We would amuse ourselves because
when the movies are playing, there's not a lot to do. Yeah,

(33:16):
get up all the popcorn, and then there's a lot
of standing around.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
Well.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
See, that's the other thing that they'll never experience, is
the boredom of sitting. I worked at the beach and
picking up garbage and if it was rainy day, you
kind of just sat there and looked at the sand
would rain on it. Because you didn't have a phone,
you didn't have ray. You just sat there like boob
and your mind would wander. But you know, we used
to play Remember we played basketball with the garbage and

(33:40):
we'd be throwing, you know, and making fun of each other.
But that's another thing of wingman man a.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Big, big, very big sports sticks. You remember last week's game,
Chuck and you stick around. We got a time for
a quick break and you'd stick around. Or we got
to yea more with Chuck and Steve and Art and myself.
We'll see you right back. After this message, she started
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Speaker 3 (35:07):
Thank you.

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Speaker 1 (36:37):
Now on iHeartRadio, more of the Man in the Arena
the Life Back Radio Show. Here again are Arthur Lee
and Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Steve Allad every director of operations also and hold the
applause for Chuck Klausmayer, Chuck Klausmayerwired. What would you like
to talk about it with our vast audience? What would
you like to talk about Chuck with your work with Micro?

Speaker 8 (37:00):
Oh, well, we do a podcast, a weekly podcast called
The Way I Heard It with Mike Row which is
a lot of fun.

Speaker 6 (37:06):
We've been doing it since I think it's been almost
ten years. Wow, we've been doing it.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Can you give Well? First off, people listen to Micro's podcast,
their guests, their their messages. I mean, I think you know,
it was like spend the time Ben Carson and I
wish he could be ten minutes in everyone's house, change
the world. Listen to Mike and Chuck and you know
it brings ract reality to the world. So in the

(37:34):
plug world, please, you know, let's get some common sense
and wisdom and friendship back into the world.

Speaker 6 (37:41):
So well, listen, Arthur, thank you for that. And I
just want to say that it was great to have
you on the podcast.

Speaker 8 (37:47):
And I can't tell you, like literally, one of the
most proudest things I am of is the fact that
sixteen people are alive today because somebody heard about your
product on our our show.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Yeah, but that reinforces the show you and might do
because it addresses real issues. You know, I guarantee you
guys have saved lives in other ways, whether they put
someone on the right path or inspired them or you
know all the work you do with the trades. And
the cool thing about that is quantifiable. You know these
two guys saved those lives because when we get the report,

(38:25):
it has heard about it on my brother and I
got to tell you the other really cool thing about that,
the people that ordered from seeing the show nicest people
on the planet. But thanks for bringing it up, because
that is the coolest thing ever. And I remember when
we were at dinner and getting to know each other
how fun it was, and that the background of it

(38:46):
meaning you can develop friendship and change the world, which
is really the Wingman philosophy.

Speaker 6 (38:51):
Absolutely, and I really do appreciate what you do so much.
And we are going to have you back on, Arthur.
I know Mike promised you, I said, come on back
when you get a thousand, But who.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Knew you were a thousand like that coming up on
five thousand, That's what I mean.

Speaker 6 (39:06):
So when you hit five thousand, you're coming back on
for sure.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
That sounds like, hey, look I love you, guys, is
and I appreciate what you did. But we're in four
thousand and four thirty four, so regardless, it's working, and
you guys are a part of it, and that's that's
what really matters.

Speaker 6 (39:23):
Well, I'll tell you I feel a part of it.

Speaker 8 (39:25):
I really appreciate you inviting me to come out to
Vegas where I got to meet that little girl, yeah saved.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
What was she like?

Speaker 6 (39:33):
How old was she?

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Two? I think it's really two.

Speaker 6 (39:36):
Oh, I think she was like eighteen months when it happened.

Speaker 8 (39:39):
Yes, you know remember her eyes, beautiful eyes, beautiful eyes,
beautiful baby. Yeah, and it was I remember the mother saying,
you know, I felt like she was it was her
first time parent, and she's like, I feel like I've
got everything under control. I'm prepared for anything. The only
thing that scares me is what if the baby chokes?
And that's how she came to get your product and

(40:02):
came to need it.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Think about the beauty of that trip, right, Who's wing man?
And we felt that you won you there. We saw
the valley of fire, we saw the mountains, and we
got some you know, spirituality and grace and humble and
then we meet a kid that we saved together and amazing.
I want to jump from you know, maybe dragging a
little bit to kind of remembering how wonderful things are

(40:25):
and how we can do something with our wing man.
That was definitely a trip to prove it. Now we
dragged Rick out to one of these your next We're
going to make you do something stupid.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Okay, yeah, you missed the multi venture you referring to
you missed the multi venture.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
We missed we h We put him on the motorcycle
out to you seven Oh really yeah? What did you
make it? Ten miles?

Speaker 6 (40:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (40:48):
It was a good a good ten to twelve miles.
I made it out on the highway, didn't No one
talked about the wind as much as the wind playing
that much of a factor. I felt like I was
gonna chuck, literally blown into I tapped out, unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Witness making you touch a hot poll on a Yeah,
that's pretty much what we did. You got it.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
It was great.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
It was well, Chuck, And then I appreciate you being
there for us in Vegas, witnessing probably one of the
worst at least audio portions of history.

Speaker 6 (41:21):
Yelling at yeah, yeah, that was that was crazy.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Oh, but it was cool to get to hang out
with Brian.

Speaker 6 (41:29):
Oh, it was awesome, and that that was a great show.

Speaker 8 (41:31):
And I love I loved the fact that you guys
were partly inspired by Six Degrees, which is the show
that Mike and I did.

Speaker 6 (41:38):
Yeah, you know, so, uh you're Rick. You're kind of
the Chuck counterpart. I think, you know, in putting on
several hats to play different roles.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
And remember he did reference, he did reference. I want
to do something like Mike does. Mike doing this, they
were they bring history to life in a fun way.
And you know, we're gonna have a new next show.
I don't know the exact day, but it's coming up.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
In Dallas and then your September and Richmond September and
Richmond I think I can go if you want to
meet up September twenty seventh and Richmond is Brian show.
We'll talk. We'll talk, all right, great, but appreciate you
so much. Plan on riding. Maybe I'll try and kill
you this time.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
Maybe you've been trying. It hasn't worked yet.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Okay, you know me.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
I don't give up, No, you don't. Well, Chuck, we
thank you so much for joining I.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Got it, the shrimp cocktail joke.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
Shrimp cocktail joke.

Speaker 6 (42:32):
Shrimp cocktail joke. I don't remember that.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Oh God. So you add like a yd nice little
drink and someone went to grab his shrimp and it
fell right in his drink, and Mike Punko you ordered
the shrimp cocktail. Obviously, if it was any more to
split second to be that kind of corny, but it
was instantaneous, the shrimp in his drink, And punk says,

(42:54):
you ordered the shrimp cocktail. And I was like, that's
the kind of guys you want to hang out with.
You can nail a joke. And now do you remember that?

Speaker 6 (43:03):
Yeah, I do remember it. Yeah, once you mentioned it. Drink.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Yeah, that was pretty.

Speaker 6 (43:07):
That was a really great trip. That was a lot
of fun. I had a blast.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
It was a lot of fun. And like I said,
as the combination of nature and spirituality and the save
and then just camaraderie, laughing, you attracting all the women
in the casino.

Speaker 8 (43:22):
It was just one as I recall, and uh, and
you talked to her friend while I talked to her,
and then as soon as she said she mentioned her husband,
you were like, hey, we got to go.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
I'll look at the time, what you really don't want
to get killed? And vegans, we're talking to someone's life
walking through and you wear a star and they all
start coming over. It's horrible.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Thank you again so much. Coming up, we're gonna go
with Ray Preedy. Pause for chuck, and we're gonna be
back with Ray Preedy. Mister three thousand.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
After this break, I was in the living room when
I heard.

Speaker 9 (43:56):
My son Carter, who was two at the time.

Speaker 6 (43:59):
I looked over and myself him grabbing for his face
as through. I grab a life back.

Speaker 8 (44:04):
I put the mask on his face and place push,
pull the life back, dislodge the ice cube from his airway.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
When he started crying, the most amazing sound I've ever
heard in my entire life.

Speaker 6 (44:16):
Please protect your family, get a life back.

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tools like LIFEAC designed to help when traditional methods may
not be feasible or fail. LIFEAC is there when seconds

(44:41):
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Speaker 3 (44:51):
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or someone you love choking. You have only seconds to act.
It's a situation no one wants to face, but it

(45:11):
can happen to anyone. That's why I created life back.
Light back is a life saving airway clearance device that's
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(45:32):
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Speaker 1 (45:49):
Now on iHeartRadio. More of the Man in the Arena
the Life Back Radio Show. Here again are Arthur Lee
and Rick Thatcher.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
The final segment of a Man in the Arena.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
As always, we are joined Arthur by mister preby mister
three thousand.

Speaker 10 (46:06):
Guest for us tonight, who do we have here?

Speaker 6 (46:09):
Who says.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
A little but also on YouTube and Facebook. There she
is Princess three.

Speaker 10 (46:18):
K down a chicken wing right now. Don't worry, we
have a Life Back. I am mister three thousand. This
is little three thousand. She was the three thousand person
saved by Life Back. We listen, folks, we got some
great numbers for you, great numbers, you know. Let's throw
these numbers.

Speaker 6 (46:36):
Out there real quick.

Speaker 10 (46:37):
It's been two hundred and eighty four days since I
saved this little princess right here, one thousand, four hundred
and thirty four lives saved.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
Amazing one or eighty four days.

Speaker 10 (46:48):
It's just amazing numbers. It's just you know, when a
parent thinks about running into a situation like that when
their child is choking, nobody wants to face that. And
as you'll hear in a little while from our Highlight
of the week, there's situations when people are trained professionals
and sometimes first ay doesn't work, So folks get like.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
That, hey, very quickly, two hundred and eighty four days,
since you say beautiful, maam one thousand, four hundred and
thirty four lives next week, I want you to make
a prediction that on your one year anniversary what number
we're going to be at? Just you, okay, because I
know you're good. You and Dot are great at analyzing
and making sure we get proper numbers. So I'm excited

(47:33):
to see what you think on your you and my
is one year anniversary. What you think that gross number we.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Do have first available to those folks that Ray Privy
who have saved a life with life act a big
contest coming on, yeh, work, don't It's in the work though,
and it's going to be big.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
It's going to be huge, huge, going to be used.

Speaker 10 (47:56):
But is it as huge as these numbers that we have.
Probably Bobby run that number for me, Bobby, one thousand,
four thirty four staves are just spectacular numbers. And again
you know we're I'm so dumbfounded on two hundred and
eighty four days in less than a year, we're gonna
have fifteen hundred in less than a year.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
Oh yeah, well that's that's your homework. There, missed the
three thousand. I'm going to have another number that's going
to be on your anniversary.

Speaker 10 (48:24):
I'm going to have a number for you and it's
you know, we'll see what happens.

Speaker 6 (48:28):
You know.

Speaker 10 (48:28):
Let's get into the highlight of the week, shall we do?
On July twenty seventh, a one year old boy from
California choked on a cookie, causing the total obstruction. The
device saved my one year old son's life.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Today.

Speaker 10 (48:40):
I am a nurse practitioner and my husband is a
critical care nurse, so they're trained, to say the least,
we both know what to do when someone is choking.
My husband did firm back thrust multiple times with zero success.
My son was completely blue and about to pass out
when I handed him the life back. He did two

(49:02):
attempts with the life back, and on a second attempt,
the cookie he was eating became dislodged and he started
to breathe again. I mean, that is just the ultimate
testimony right there, that first the recommended first aid doesn't
always work. In the case of Maya, it didn't work.
Then we were CPRS certified, we were trained and it

(49:24):
didn't work. The life back is what saved the boy
from California and a little girl right here.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
When I heard thirteen years ago, the seven year old
that took to that, I was dumbfounded. He was in
the hospital and I said, you know, why didn't they
do the heimlig in the protocol? And they said we did.
And I was like, what didn't work? Because when I
took the course, they didn't tell me it might not work,
right right, do it until the object comes out? So

(49:50):
she was walking around fully confident that if Jackie choked,
I could use the backblos and test impressions and a
dominald thrust and she'd be fine. I'm sitting there going,
what do you mean? It doesn't always work.

Speaker 10 (50:02):
Exactly, And you know, when you're a parent in facebook
that situation, you know, it's traumatic, is what it is.
You know, Arthur and I have spoke to many people,
many different platforms, and again it's it's next to impossible
for me to not get choked up when speaking about it,
because again, as a parent, you go back to that
moment when in the moment you're not freaking out.

Speaker 6 (50:23):
You do what you do, you do what you have
to do. But afterwards you're like, I could have lost her.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Well, think about it too, that part of our obligation
is people as human as parents, is to kind of
address these myths. I did not know. It did not
always work. And I'm sure a lot of people say
I'm trained, I'm good, and with kindness and courage and
appreciation to this family that shared, we are trained, and

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it did not work, and right, nothing against them. We
all recommend getting trained, but it's important that the public
know man in the arena, that it doesn't always work.
And it's nothing against protocol, nothing against Red Cross.

Speaker 10 (51:04):
And there are alternatives that you can get a life
back there that will increase your chances. And I'm telling
you it's funny. I actually gave away one of my
life backs to somebody who needed it. Ever since then,
it's like, oh.

Speaker 6 (51:18):
Wait, I don't have my life back with me.

Speaker 10 (51:20):
You know, when I travel with my family, we always
have one. But when I'm running solo, I'm like, oh,
I don't have my life back with me. I'm gonna
CHEO extra careful now because I don't have that. So
so again, once you once you have it, once you
live through it, you never want to be without it.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
It seems like there's a slogan coming out of you
at this time.

Speaker 10 (51:39):
I believe it's life ACKs. Better to have it and
not need it, instead of needing it and not having it.
The life, you could say, could be your own, or
your kids, or your wife, maybe a stranger you know
who knows.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Wow, you're the best, buddy. I so appreciate you, you guys,
God blessed.

Speaker 10 (51:56):
Have a great evening.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Always great to see mister three thousand again when Maya
is there to interrupt to make it's fantastic that she's
able to do that because without life fact and without
her dad being there. And for those we should always
mention the two bystanders that came by just in case
mister three thousand didn't have a life fact. Two of
the motorists stop buying a Florida Highway. But it's getting everywhere.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
When you say save a life and four thousand and
four hundred and thirty four number. Seeing Maya and hearing her,
and she is life. Man, I've hund all life. She's
one hundred miles an hour, fearless, beautiful kid, just everything
you want in a little rambunctious kid going nuts that
takes four thousand and four thirty four and puts a face.

(52:41):
Absolutely anyone who's sitting with their child in their lap
and is watching and sees her bouncing around, that's when
you get it. Yeah, And it's not just the number.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
The flip side of that is the five thousand people
a year that die. Well, we keep you know, we know,
and we know we know families that advocate now for
life fact that fortunately before I didn't know about life
act wasn't around lost a child, and now they advocate.

Speaker 4 (53:03):
I think of the Chambers, I think it's the were
the other families.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Oh godness, Chambers is Colson's Crew with Colton Is, the Maddoxes, Improvements,
the Brugman's and sadly quite a few.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
And and you mentioned the courage of these folks to
share their stories of the highlights safe.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Well, I was right on Those instances are heroes because
they already suffered the loss and their goal is so
no one else does you know? That's that's true courage.
That's kill a mockingbird, that's you're you're already lost, but
you're you're doing it for others.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
So we'll be back next week.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
I'm Rick I'm with Arthur Lee, CEO and venor of
Life back on the Man in the Arena.

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