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Mark comments on Victor Davis Hanson's analysis of the desperate times for Gen Z males and how they have been victimized by the mainstreaming of leftist crackpotism.   A prophetic message from the past about the potential damage of long-term welfare reliance (guess who turned out to be correct?) and a look at how European restrictions on social media platforms are threatening free speech in America (another problem created by globalism).

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You have a sort of special podcast today in which
I want to deal with only a few topics, but
they're like big topics. I could actually do an entire
podcast on each of these, but we're not going to
break it down into just one topic, but several big ones.
The first one starts with there was you know. One

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of the things that Charlie Kirk talked about a lot
before he was assassinated was his focus on the term
that's been used is the lost Boys of the West.
The lost Boys of the West, the young American males
who lacked any direction because of the atrocious messaging that

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they've been subjected to. The young males who've been told
their entire lives that their whiteness was a problem, that
their masculinity is toxic, that they have been given as
a group too many advantages, and it was now time
to correct and the ones that would be the victims

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of this correction would be them. And he had great
success in getting many of them to be open to
his message because he was the first guy to tell
them a contrary message. There's nothing wrong with being a
man and be a real man. Hey, get married, be
a guy, pray, work, You're worth something. But the reality

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is there are only so many of them that he
could reach, and those lost boys in the West are
part of a larger group Generation Z you had way
twenty years ago, lots of topics in the millennials, the
generation prior to that. We even did a series of
podcasts on millennials that got lots of attention and saved

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it for years, and it's still out there in podcast land.
I think for somebody to be able to find. We're
going to focus here on the situation revolving around gen
Z and the take of a very prominent social commentator
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not an option. One of the greatest social commentators of
our era is Victor Davis Hansen. He wrote an essay
and you can find all of his stuff on the
website I have belling dot com. There's a tabinet, said
Victor Davis Hanson. Let's what of require some searching. He
wrote this a couple of weeks ago. Actually, let's see

(03:17):
November twenty seventh was his drop data, so it's about
two weeks old. It's very relevant. The headline is can
the Lost Generation be found? He writes, The current Generation Z,
those roughly between thirteen and twenty eight years old, is

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becoming our twenty first century version of the Lost Generation.
Members of Gen Z are often nicknamed zoomers, a term
used to describe young adults who came of age and
the era of smartphones, social media, and rapid cultural upheaval
in their teens and twenties are prolonging their adolescence, rarely marrying,

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not buying a home, not having children, and often not
working full time. The negative stereotype of a zoomer is
a shiftless man who plays too many video games. He
is too coddled by parents and too afraid to strike
out on his own. Zoomers rarely date, supposedly out of

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fear that they would have to grow up, take charge
and had a household. Yet the opposite, sympathetic generalization of
gen Z seems more attractive. All through K twelve, young men,
particularly white males, have been demonized for their quote toxic

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masculinity that draws accusations of sexes and racism and homophobia.
In college, the majority of students are female. In contrast,
white males to ten percent of admittees in recent years
at elite schools like Stanford and the Ivy League. Think
of that nine to ten percent of the people being

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admitted to prestigious University of United States are white males.
First of all, if it's fifty to fifty half the
admittes of males, they're not more female. But the majority
of the males being admitted are not white. And again
we all know all the reasons for this. Racial preferences
et cetera back to Hansen are of no interest to

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college admission officers, so they are tagged not as unique individuals,
but as superfluous losers on the wrong race. Gender, or
sexual orientation. Gen Z men saw themselves escapegoaded by professors
and society for the sins of past generations and on

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the wrong side of the preposterous reductionist binary of oppressors
and the oppressed. Traditional pathways to adulthood, affordable homes, upwardly
mobile and secure jobs, and safe and secure city and
suburban living had mostly vanished amid overregulation, over taxation and

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under policing orthodox and loud student advocacies on campus climate
change DEI. The Palestinians had little to do with getting
a job, raising a family, or buying a house. During
the Biden years, white males mostly stopped enlisting in the
military in their accustomed over represented numbers. In Iraq and Afghanistan,

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they had died in frontline combat units at twice the
percentages of their demographic No matter prior, Pentagon DEI commissaires
still slandered them as suspects, unlikely to form, unlikely to
form racist cabal likely to form racist cabals. Gen Z
mails seemed bewildered by women and sex, and often withdrew

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from dating. Never has popular cultures so promoted sexually provocative
fashions semi nudity and free wheeling lifestyles and careers of
supposedly empowered single women, and never had the rules of
dating and sexuality become more retrograde. Victorian casual consensual sex

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was flashed as cool everywhere on social media, and when
it naturally proved in the real world to be selfish, callous,
and empty, males were almost always exclusively blamed as if
they were not proper Edwardian gentlemen. Soon, young men feared
sexual hookups and promiscuity as avenues to post facto and

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one sided charges of harassment or worse. For the half
of Generation Z who went to college, tuition had soared,
rising faster than the rate of inflation. Administrators were often
more numerous than faculty. Obsessive fixation with race determined everything
from dorm selections to graduation ceremonies. Zoomers were mired in

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enormous student debt, yet they soon learned that their gut
social science and studies degrees proved nearly worthless. Employers saw
such certificates as neither proof of traditional knowledge nor of
any needed specialized skill set. Unemployed or half employed as

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Zoomers then ended up with unsustainable five figure student loans
and the insidious interest on them. Their affluent left wing
tenured professors, who would once demonized them as oppressors, could
have cared less about their dismal fates. Added all up
and zoomers puzzled their parents, and they found scant guide

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gidance from the campus. Instead, they sought needed spiritual inspiration
from a Jordan Peterson, entertainment and pragmatic advice from a
Joe Rogan, but sometimes toxic venting from a demagogue, anti
semitic Nick Fuentes. What would shock the lost generation back

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into the mainstream, barring a war, depression or natural catastrophe,
one an nd DEI hectoring and blame gaming, and a
return to class rather than race determining privilege to some
sanity in the war between the sexies. When women represent

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nearly sixty percent of undergraduates, why does gender still assured
advantage it admissions and hiring. Let me interject what a
good point. If sixty percent of the people going to
college at women, why are we still giving women preferences?
The ends is pretty simple, because of just this declared
that actual males are evil. The only males that aren't

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evil are females who describe themselves as male. Back to Hanson, three,
the federal government needs to stop funding one point seven
trillion dollars in student debt, often for worthless degrees and
wasting away one's prime twenties and thirties. Let universities pledge
their endowments to guarantee their own loans. They should graduate

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students in four years, and they must slash the parasitical
class of toxic administrative busybodies who cannot teach but can
hector and bully. Four. Society needs to stop granting status
on the basis of increasingly meaningless letters and titles after
a name. Skilled tradesmen like electricians and mechanics are noble professions,

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and their status and compensation should reflect their value to
society far more than a bachelor's degree in a study
in a study's major, or years vaporized in off and on. College. Finally,
insteativized building homes rather than over regulating them and zoning
them into one affordability. If the loss gen Z is

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not found soon, the result for everyone will not be pretty.
Piece was written by Victor Davis Hanson addressing the plight
of gen Z and particularly gen Z mails, and I
want to give a counterpoint to that. This is based
on my observation, and I pride myself of being a

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good social observer. There is an alternative group of them.
I'll call them the gen Z male survivors. They're the
ones that basically rejected all the bullblape, either because they
were grounded by their parents or something. And I know

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the sounds rrogant. Sometimes that's something was me. I mean,
I just hear from many people that are in that generation. Again,
he's describing from thirteen twenty. They describe themselves as belling babies,
and they thank me for offer. And I know why
they're thanking me. Nobody else they had ever heard in
their lives was saying these things. Maybe their parents are
saying it because that's why they were exposed. But okay,

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your parents are saying and they're not cool. Here's this
other person. In my case, it was me. For some
of them, more recently, it was somebody like Rogan or
some other podcasters that are kind of macho guys other
than those you know, sometimes that was the only perspective

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that they got. And the ones that were exposed to
that had started thinking for themselves and realizing my stupid,
idiotic unionized school teachers not somebody to pay any attention to.
These professors are full of crap. The ones that have
rejected all of this, not only are they going to thrive,
but it's more than that. This is an important point.

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What's the best field in general to go into? You
don't have no idea of how to answer this really
simple though, Well, you go into a field in which
hardly anybody's any good. Now, I could kind of say
that that's true of being a talk show host, but

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I think that's mostly just because I think I'm really good.
But I'll be honest with you. Most people do talk
shows aren't very good. I don't mean here in Milwaukee,
I mean in general. Most podcasters aren't any good. The
ones that you hear about that have a following, obviously
they are good, but there's thousands, tens of thousand, hundreds
of thousands of them out there. You want to go
into a field that isn't very good because it's easier

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to get to the top. For instance, you be at
a drummer. That's the opposite of that. You and I
are part of a generation which zillions of people wanted
to be involved in music, and some of the greatest
music of all time was created. So you're going into
a field in which the zillions, it's no wonder you're
sitting there doing my show rather than drumming for Van
Halen or something. On the other hand, if you go

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into a field in which some of these skilled trades
right now, then not only is a shortage of people,
probably some of the people that are going into are
going into it because they see the money and maybe
don't have a particular skill or an aptitude for it.
Getting back to my point of the gen z's, those

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therefore that rejected all the crap, they are in the
driver's seat for their generation because the vast majority of
other males their age are all blaped up. If you're
twenty four to twenty five and you have something vowing
for yourself and you're a young male, you actually benefit

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from the fact that so many of your peers had
all this crap choved into their heads, because these are
the people now that you can soar past in your life.
COVID I think created a mixed impact. And again we're
talking a generation thirteen to twenty, and a lot of

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it had to do with what age you actually were
at the time that it hit. For the kids that
were in high school, the best years of their lives
high school or in college ripped from them, virtual learning,
being scared to death, masks being put on, graduation being
taken away, all that crap. For some that had a
negative effect. But for others, the effect, I think, long

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term was positive. You know that long term positive was
they realized the establishment was full of crap. There are
a whole lot of young people. I don't need the shot,
I don't need to wear a mask. None of us
are getting sick. They're killing me all this stuff, and
I realize it's all garbage. Well, the ones that realized
it was all garbage, they're they've lapped the field because

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there are others out there that bought into all of it.
He doesn't mention this, but I could add in the
drugging of this generation, the opioids, fenanol and all the
marijuana that so much of them have, they're all sapping
of spirit and energy. Short term, feel good, long term

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be a dead ass. You're not on that again, your
laps ahead of the field of your peers. Let me
move to another I think big topic. This is one
of those that at some point I'm gonna do an

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entire podcast on the threat to American free speech from overseas.
This sounds vague right looking at my TV screen, sometimes
it just amazes me at how women change in appearance.
I mean, guys like you and me, we just get older, right,

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but we still look we look like an older version
of what we once did. It just seem that women
have the ability to morph into entirely different human beings.
Dagan McDowell is on my screen up there. I remember
when she was on Imos's show, Paul. She did not
look a bit like that. Do you ever want when
iMOS had his show what I'mus would simulcasts radio show
on television, First he was on I forget the first

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what he was on, then he went to Fox Business
after he came back after the can of the first
time around and she was out at the second. She
doesn't look at all like she. I mean, I suppose
we men could do that. You know, die are here
and you know, you know gold with you know, blonde
guys become dark hair or I mean, there's do you

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remember her when she was on iMOS? Does that look
at all, would you have known? Would you have ever
if you had just seen that face? Would you've ever
known that was her? I'm glad you're backing me up
with that. If you didn't, would have wasted five minutes
of the show with me trying to argue the point. No,
none of this. What are the primary forms of communication now?

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Essentially social media? Right? In fact, that term you probably
need a new term for it. Facebook and X formerly
owned as Twitter, are overwhelmingly the top sources of news
and information and communication. I, for example, post a lot

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of things on X. Facebook used to be highly restrictive,
and you said if you tried to offer a contrary
point of view during COVID or many other things, you
were smacked down, fact checked, or you simply couldn't say
that at all. They've gotten better, I think thanks to
the election of Trump and after Musk bought Twitter and

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rebranded it as X. Twitter was the worst. It's stifled everything,
and Musk has allowed it to become essentially anything goes.
Here's the butt. These are global platforms. You can post
on X pretty much anywhere in the world other than

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a handful of countries are just blocked that. I don't
know that you can in North Korea, but pretty much
everywhere in the world, Facebook, Instagram, you name it, the EU,
the nations of Europe. Then aren't the UK have become
more and more repressive with regard to their speech codes.

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Late last week the EU find X. We get the
dollar figure here, It was an extremely high amount. Yeah,

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I don't have it anyway, a giant fine from the
EU on X. And it's because of content. In other words,
X is being fined massively by the EU for not
restricting content the EU doesn't approve of. In other words,
one musk took X and allowed free speech to return

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to it so people could shoot off their mos and
say all matter of things, including conservative saying anything at all.
They've run a fall of the laws with regarding censorship
in Europe. Remember these are global platforms. It's very hard
for these platforms to allow me to post something that's
seen in the United States but not seen in Canada

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or not seen elsewhere. If the EU is successful in
cracking down on social media companies to restrict speech, it
means de facto American speech has been restricted. You see
what I'm saying here. It isn't any longer enough for
us to push for the First Amendment of free speech
in the United States. As the world becomes more globalized,

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and in the case of businesses that are global by nature,
which is just about everybody on the Internet, a restriction
in another country impacts the content of a social media
company that is global. We have certainly been facing tremendous
threats here in the United States because of speech codes

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from lefties who try to silence anybody who's right of center.
But the greater threat is foreigners putting restrictions on companies
that are global in nature that have become the primary
form of communication of Americans. As I say that topic
could be developed for an entire podcast. I'll leave it

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at that. But the only way we can deal with it,
I think, is for the United States to assert itself
and say hands off these companies. And this is where
Trump needs to have the weapon of tariffs, because what
else can you do to get them to back off?
All Right, you find expert saying that they can't have

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free speech, I'm gonna teariff you on something or another.
Trump has had tremendous success in getting the rest of
the world to stop pushing us around by using the
threat of tariff. If the Supreme Court takes that away,
I don't know what weapon we particularly have. The alternative,
I suppose is for some of these businesses like Facebook

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and x and some of the others to simply say
we're not going to go into Europe. But that screws
up your entire business model. If they're going to restrict
themselves and not be It'd be like if Uber said
we're only going to be in the United States. I
don't know what percentage of the revenue is in the US,
but I know it's not half. The difference is Uber
is basically that people driving cars around you can have

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a speed limit in one country or something else in
another in the United States and doesn't change anything. But
when you post something on a social med platform that
is accessible anywhere, if you run a fall of a
government way off, if you run a fall of the
government and Iceland or the government in France or such
and such, and they levy a massive fine on you
that you have to pay, it may affect your policies
with regard to content that are in place everywhere in

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the world. You follow all that one hundred and forty million,
I was looking for that number that's what the fight.
And again, in the overall scheme of things, one hundred
and forty million dollars for Elon Musk is not the
end of the world, but it's a sizeable amount. It's enough,
I suppose for somebody that wasn't as adamant or as

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rich as Elon Musk in favor of free speech potentially
to buckle. Go back to the United States and COVID
and look at the pressure of the Biden administration put
on social media companies to knock down any type of
descent on COVID policies. That descent that they knocked down
turned out to be statements that were factual. Now, that

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was the threat from within, But the reality is we
have some leverage from that threat within here in the
United States so that we can vote them out of office.
What are we supposed to do about the EU short
of tariffs? I think nothing. This is the Mark Belling podcast.
This is the Mark Belling podcast. I mentioned at the

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beginning of the program sort of big topics. I'm going
to grab a small topic that has a big point
to it. You could come up with a million examples
to prove the following point. The example I'm going to
use is the hepatitis B vaccine. It's in the cross

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here is now of RFK the hepatitis B vaccine. Again,
there's different forms of hepatitis. The hepatitis B vaccine is
in the schedule of vaccines for children. The schedule is
the list of vaccines that they want kids to have.

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The potential of a child getting hepatitis B is extremely limited.
So why is it on the vaccine schedule? I'm gonna
pause for a few seconds there. The explanation for almost
everything is money or power, and usually both. Why is

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hepatitis B on the vaccine schedule for young children? Are
they engaging in any of the behaviors in which hepatitis
B is transmitted? No? Why is it on there? Who benefits? Now?

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I know that some of you are ahead of me
on this, and some of them are in the anti
vaxer crowd. And I'm not an anti vaxer, as I
put out all the time, I have become a skeptic
in any of these areas, and we should be skeptics
and everything. The anti vaccins are ahead of me on
this because they've been making these arguments for some time.

(26:11):
The point that I make is. I think lumping all
vaccine all vaccines bad is. I'm not persuaded on that. However,
I'm not one of these morns. It's gonna run around
and say all vaccines are good. That's like saying all
football coaches are good, or all podcasters are good, or
all producers are good. Well, there aren't many good producers

(26:32):
ei there. Well, you shouldn't want to see. I've never
understood why people are defensive of the physition. I want
to say that the most podcasters aren't any good because
I am good. What are you defensive of the whole
thing of free? You should say that they're almost all stink,
and therefore you're one of the rarest standouts of somebody
who knows what they're doing. Why don't you say that? Then?

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I think the majority stink. I think the majority of
everything stinks, don't you. I think forty percent stank most
yours forty percent stank, forty percent are okay, and twenty
percent are really really good. Right, That's how quarterbacks are, right, Yeah, Well,
that's what I said, for the most part, twenty percent
forty percent. Why is hepve on the childhood vaccine? Who

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benefits now? That answer is very simple. The companies that
sell it. If your kid gets vaccinated, that means you've
bought the vaccine, either through your insurance, direct payment, the
government paying whatever the form is from the drug company

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that makes the vaccine. This is where people get flowboxed
when their insurance covers something, or in the case of COVID,
when the government bought it. Well, but it's free. Who's
making any money dot somebody's he's always making money. There's
nobody out there cranking out these vaccines and say here
they are for free. Now here's what happened with hepatitis V.

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I'm in the age group in which they start recommending
vaccination for certain things that you wouldn't be recommended for before.
I don't know what the age for pneumonia is, but
I don't think they recommend then aemonia vaccine. I don't
like to say these things. Sometimes I'm growing. I think
that there's an age group in which they start recommending
then ammonia vaccine. Anyway, the hepatitis, what shingles is like

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that some of them, you're likely to get it when
you're old, then you're not in the same fashion that
you know. Younger people are more likely to get something anyway.
The hepatitis vaccine, the hepatitis B vaccine has been around
for some time and hardly any adults for getting it.
I'm almost positive I've never gotten it. I don't think
I would need it if I got it. It was

(28:51):
years ago when I forgot about it or they gave
it to me. And a doctor's pointment saying, I'm pretty
sure I never got it, and I'm not engaging in
anything that would make I can't imagine that risk or
appetitis be So here's the thing. Drug companies are making
this vaccine and hardly any adults wanted it, So what
did they do. They lobbied the government to get it
on the childhood vaccine schedule. You wonder how it is,

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and again I don't. I don't. It's probably recorded somewhere.
I mean, I got to I'm sure my parents got
me all the ones you were supposed to get for
a kid that was born when I was I still can't.
I actually remember some of those shots probably were the
ones that you were four. It's not saying I remember
the ones that won, but I kind of remember a
couple of because that was like a traumatic thing. You

(29:38):
get the shot and you know all of that. The
number of vaccines has exploded from what they were when
I was a kid. In some cases it's because they
developed a vaccine that didn't exist before, but in other
cases it's because the drug companies lobbying to have it included,
to well, we need to protect the kid against this,
that and the other thing. And this is where the
anti vaxxs movement has started, where some parents just all

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of them, and they're wondering, why is my kid a
pin cushion? And then look at it, my kid's never
going to get this. Why are they getting all of
these things? And those people who've been raising those questions
have been smacked. Oh, you can't question, you can't question,
You can't question why. We have not only seen the CDC,
but we have seen the opinion leaders in our society

(30:21):
simply become shills for drug companies trying to sell something.
Every one of these things should be treated individually on
a case by case basis. The hepatitis B vaccine and children,

(30:49):
this is the canary in the coal mine. This is
the indication that there is a warning sign about what
the CDC. And again Kennedy has gotten in there. It
is shaken the CDC. And this is causing great waves
because the CDC, historically, no matter whether the president was
a Republican or a Democrat, was nothing but a revolving
door for people who worked in the drug industry, go

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to work for the drug industry, get put into the CDC,
leave the CDC, go back to the drug industry, and
so on. And they tended to rubber stamp everything that
the drug industry put out with regard to vaccines or
many other treatments. It set aside. But let me throw
it in. One of the things that we learned early
on with COVID, and doctors will tell you this, they
noted that a whole lot of people who were getting

(31:33):
really sick from COVID had lower levels of vitamin D
in their bodies. I mean, it was picked up right away.
I remember having a discussion with so I won't identify
the prest somebody that I know about that. And this
is somebody that was very, very skeptical of all the

(31:56):
stuff that was coming from FAUCI and the CDC and
all of this. And this person was saying to me,
I mean, the vitamin D thing, if you wanted to
do any one particular thing to avoid getting COVID. Making
sure that you have enough vitamin D is such an
important thing. And I said it was a female. I
said to her, well, yeah, I think that word is out.
I mean I know it. I mean somehow I was

(32:19):
able to be exposed to that information. And in fact,
nobody's ever disputed that shorted low levels of vitamin c D,
just as B city at a number of other risk factors.
What well, I'm just saying that I knew it, so
I don't think it's being suppressed. And she said, you
would not believe the number of people who don't know
what the reality is. I don't ever recall the media
pounding make sure your vitamin D levels are high enough.

(32:41):
Why vitamin D is damn near free. It's generic. You
go into the drug store like there's a house brand
for CVS and Walgreens, and then others charge for it.
And nobody's got a patent anymore on vitamin D. It's
not free or anything. But it's nothing that the major
drug companies are making any money off of. All these
different drug companies manufacturer and charge what they can charge
for et cetera. And the cost of it and so on.

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But none of the big drug companies are making a
big profit off of it, So I get why they
wouldn't be pushing it. But what's that? How is that
an excuse for the media or public health divisions? All
these public health offices across the United States. Why couldn't
they be doing that. Why wasn't the CDC hammering it?
Because the CDC is bought and paid for by the
drug industry, at least the CDC that was in place
Trump's first term, during Biden prior to that, Obama and

(33:24):
so on. All Right, a quote. This quote is from
a number of decades ago. It's it sounds like this
is the prophet Isaiah for seeing and talking about something
that would happen in the future that then happened. I'll

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tell you who the quote is from after I read
the quote. It has to do with skepticism about creating
a welfare program that is sufficient for a person to
live on. If we don't want to destroy financially every

(34:08):
city in the United States, we're going to have to
get people off welfare. Welfare is not the answer. It
destroys the individual, and it destroys the family. Now many
of us Conservatives have been saying this for years, that
long term welfare dependency is the same as an addiction,

(34:29):
that it is not humanitarian to have somebody sucking on
welfare for eight or nine years. If welfare is high
enough that you can live on it, what's the incentive
to get off of it and change your life and
make yourself productive. I mean that conservative wo argue this forever.
This statement, however, is it's nearly sixty years old. Not
quite so. This was stated well back when welfare was

(34:50):
in the stages of growing. You know who we gave
that quote RFK Senior Bobby Kennedy Bobby Kennedy senior Darling
of the left in that era, this was when there
were some Democrats who actually had compassion. You know, Johnson

(35:12):
created the Great Society that's in the welfare programs are
being invented, and it was a great argument about the
social safety net. And in that era, a lot of
people were not getting by at all, and we created
the welfare program for this. And what some people were
arguing at the time is, yeah, but you can't you
have to make it as a transitionary step for people
that are in hard times that you can't let it

(35:34):
become something that they suck off of forever. Well, they
have sucked off of it forever, and now there were
so many of them that you not only have all
of the social problems with people who can live off
the various welfare programs that are with there, but the
problem that we're now seeing, particularly with the Somali situation.
The more of these programs there are, the more they

(35:55):
can be scammed. Remember that it's the same thing that
I was staying with regard to the FDA and the
drugs and the CDC and the drug companies and the vaccines.
Every vaccine is sold by somebody. Every welfare program is
administered by somebody, and for the cases of many of them,
they're subcontracted out. The Fed's create a program and it's

(36:15):
administered at the local level by an SDC or an
organization like that. The money is being skimmed off the
top right and left? Are you saying I'm skimming off
the top? Mic who said that no is the Godfathers.

(36:38):
It was the guy that the guy with the glasses
who got moul green got shot in the glasses. Well,
I mean that's a Michael Corleone came out and tried
to take over his casino, and you're not making any money, said,
are you choosing me? A skimming off? Of course, that's
what the mob was doing, was skimming off the top.

(37:00):
That's on all of our welfare programs. That's being excited.
It's skimmed off the top, off the middle, and off
of everything else. And you know, you go back to
and I've talked about Reagan talked about this a lot
a lot of people who are liberal, you know, back
in the day. In the case of Reagan, he was
a union guy in the fifties and the sixties. He
came over much of what the Democratic Party was then

(37:22):
basic level compassion, also included standing up for the working
man and so on. It was a way for people
to get ahead. What the Democrats have become now is
out and out Marxist, in which they want everything to
be given away and nobody to work at anything, to
take away and confiscate everything that we all have, and
the end result would be a welfare state on steroids

(37:45):
where everybody is in the same You'll never get ahead,
You're just gonna be stuck in the same thing that
Marxism always creates, which is the woman in Russia standing
for nine hours in the potato line. I use that
point all the time, but that is the answer. It's
something else. There's I don't know if it's potatoes, but
they're standing in line in Cuba for nine hours to
every single venezuela. They're standing in line for hours for

(38:05):
that because the system doesn't work, and when there's no
way out of it, at least in our welfare system,
there is a way out. You just have to decide
that you're going to give up the dol that you're
living off of, in which you get to set on
your asshole and you get all of these payments. That
requires a little bit of an initiative. When you get
to Marxism, though, there's no way to get out of it,
because it punishes edyone who tries to succeed or escape

(38:29):
the dole at all. This brings me to the perfect
example of it, the Minnesota case Alicia Finley recent column
in The Wall Street Jennal diagnosis rates of autism. Let

(38:56):
me give you my transition to this, the Minnesota some
Malli scandal. The point that I was trying to make
here and I got into the column a little quickly,
is a proxy for understanding every government welfare program, the
Democrats don't even want to expose the abuses in it
because the constituency is the people that are abusing it,

(39:19):
not the people that are supposed to receive the somalis
would be the ones in that case that we're skimming
off the top. Now let's go to everything else. Here's
the connection. I've been talking for some time about how
it is that something as rare as autism has become
so common. I think it's a combination of two things.

(39:42):
As I've said many times, I think a lot of
people are being described as autistic. Whod weren't being described
as autistic before? But secondly, I think there is an
increase in autism. And my own belief is that a
lot of the things that Kennedy and some of the
others are pointing to probably have a contributing factor. But
I think the biggest component that's out there all the
drugs that were pumping into all of our bodies. I
think that it is numbing down people's minds, and in

(40:04):
some cases this may be passed in utero. A mother
that's on ninety seven different pills that affect her brain
and affect her moods are screwing up the brains of
these kids who become functioning somewhere as autistic. But does
that mean that every single kid that's being diagnosed as
autistic is autistic? Which brings us down to the friendly

(40:25):
column Let me pick up there. Diagnosis rates of autism
among children have more than tripled over the past fifteen years.
One reason which Minnesota's welfare scandal lays bare with shocking
details is Medicaid fraud and abuse. So we think of
Medicaid fraud and abuse. One part of it was scammed
by Somali's in Minnesota. Don't think that all components of

(40:47):
the welfare fraud program aren't being scammed. Back to the column.
Medicaid pays healthcare providers big box to diagnose and three
children with autism, sometimes tens of thousands of dollars a
month for a single child. Yet states rarely verify that
kids who are diagnosed actually meet the medical criteria for

(41:07):
the disorder, or that they get appropriate treatment from qualified specialists.
The result, children covered by Medicaid or the government run
children's health insurance program are two point five times as
likely as those with private coverage to be diagnosed with autism.
All right, I hope you didn't miss that point. If
you did, I'm gonna bail you up by explaining it.

(41:28):
Let's suppose your health care coverage is private insurance. Now,
let's suppose your health care coverage is Medicaid. If it's Medicaid,
you're two and a half times are likely to have
your kid being diagnosed as artistic. Why Because Medicaid is
scammed more easily than the private health care insurance. You
can get on the private health care insurance fit denying

(41:49):
coverage and all sorts of things. And clearly that's a problem.
But one of the reasons that they do so is
that they don't want to pay out money right and
left for something that isn't a real problem. If Medicaid
is scanned, Okay, this kid's diagnosed as autistic, we're gonna
spend one hundred thousand dollars a month on them. That's
somebody that's getting that one hundred thousand dollars to provide

(42:09):
the treatment. Back to the column. In twenty fourteen, the
Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services began requiring state Medicare
Medicaid programs to cover autism therapy such as applied behavioral
analysis or ABA, a technique that uses positive reinforcement to
improve social and communication skills. All right, somebody, you think

(42:31):
that's a good thing. Maybe you think it's a bad thing.
I'll tell you what it also is the moment that
they approved that, all sorts of people went into the
field to do that. The government says we're going to
cover such and such. All of a sudden, people come
out and say, I'll be the one that provides such
and such. Think of all the solar energy companies that

(42:53):
popped up starting fifty degree with the Green New Deal
and all of that. I think I'll go into that business. Yeah,
I bet you will. Since the government is out suddenly
saying that we're going to pay for this, Obamacare plans
also required to cover such therapy as an essential benefit. Previously,
the responsibility providing such treatment fell mainly on public schools.

(43:14):
Many lacked the expertise and were happy to shift the
cost of federal taxpayers, which cover between fifty and seventy
five percent of Medicaid bills for most maneficiaries. Autism behavioral
services quote comprised one of the fastest growing healthcare industries
in the United States. The Massachusetts Offits of the Inspector
General noted last year in an audit of the state's
Medicaid program, there is an increased need for vigilance in

(43:35):
program integrity to keep pay to the growing number of
ABA providers. In Minnesota, the number of ought and I'm
discussing you could go to every part of the welfare
program in Minnesota and see it abused. That Somali thing
was not a one off. The somalis merely sized up
here in Minnesota that the welfare system pays for anything,
So they grabbed into the area of COVID. Don't think

(43:57):
that that doesn't mean the timb Walls and the other
lefties over there haven't left the barn door open in
every other part of that program. In Minnesota, the number
of autism providers soared seven hundred percent. The people who've
treated autism soared seven hundred percent. The minute the government
started paying people to provide treatment for autism, and payments

(44:18):
to them increased three thousand percent between twenty eighteen and
twenty three, that's five years. Payments increased three thousand percent
in Minnesota in five years to providers of autism treatment.
You can see why there are a whole lot of
people who don't want Kennedy to come up with a
cure for autism. In order to get paid, you need

(44:40):
to have the disease out there. You need to have
the threat of the disease out there. Go back to
my earlier point, how did the edge help b vitis
get on the childhood vaccine thing? Some drug companies get
to sell it. The story goes on. You know, everybody

(45:00):
hears the rule follow the money. Yet I think despite
the fact that everybody hears that rule, people don't realize
that they have to follow the money in almost everything
in life. One of the great changes that has occurred
in my lifetime in the American Left is they have

(45:23):
gone from being extremely suspicious from big corporations and how
they make money two shills for the same big corporations
and how they make money. How the left has hoard
itself out to the drug companies, an entity that only
a decade ago they have hated, has been a remarkable thing.

(45:46):
It is also coincided with the drug companies bankrolling Democratic politicians,
who then turn around in bankroll lefty social service and
advocacy organizations. Always follow the money this is the Market
Belling podcast. All right, that's it for today's podcast. Thursday

(46:07):
podcast coming out early afternoon, and that's the one in
which we will have our weekly football preview and football picks.
And I actually won my pick last week. That's a
rare occurrence. It hadn't happened it seven weeks. I tied
one in law five weeks. I think actually won my
pick you, Oh yeah, that's right. Paul took the Beers.

(46:27):
I think it was six and a half in the
Packers one by seven. You know, seven point thing is
so tricky. I mean, a close game doesn't necessarily have
to have a close number. I mean one score could
be one point or six or seven points and so on.
All right, talk to you soon. Bye.

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