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I always like to tell people to put themselves in
the other guy's shoes. So let's imagine this is you.
Imagine you're somebody that just you don't have a driver's
license because it's been yanked away, because of all the
reasons it gets yanked me you just want to keep
bribing and be able to get away with it. And
now let's imagine you want to you know, you don't

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want to pay for stuff. You just want to shoplift
in broad daylight. Just imagine that that's you. Imagine that
was you over there. What's the imagine that it is?
Where should you do it? I'm here to provide helpful
advice for those of you miserable, good for nothings that

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are in that category. Do it in a county in
which every judge is an ever's appointed judge. In other words,
do it in Washington County. Now, obviously we're going to
have a case study in this. In fact, it's an
interesting case study. Everything about The story is interesting, but
there's a moral of the story that we're going to

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first part of this story is quite interesting. It was
reported by Fox six and that's where I found it.

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We're gonna dive deeper into the story, but first of all,
let's just share the basics. Fox six is reporting on
a shoplifting arrest in Hartford. Hartford is in Washington County,
not to be confused with Harland Hartford Walmart there. The the
thing about stealing at a Walmart is of all of

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the big national chains, Walmart takes shoplifting seriously, so you
start with that. I mean every store is different, but
Walmart is big on the lost prevention. They got the
people why it's like a casino with the cameras that
were everywhere watching you, so forth and so on. So
if you steal from Walmart and you get out of
the store, chances are they got a video image of

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you and they're gonna be ready if you ever try
to come into the store again. That's the background. Anyway.
The story is about a woman who walked into the
Walmart in Hartford and part of the investigation, she admitted
that she's planning to steal again. There was a problem.
The day that she went into the Walmart to steal,

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they were having a special event at that Walmart. Do
you know about this story. The special event was called
shop with a Cop. They had like it was an
event for like Christmas shopping for kids and so on,
and a number of local police officers on their off

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time were you know, donating their time that they would
shop with the kid. You get the you know, there
was you know, good community involvement thing. So the place
is crawling with police officers because this was the day
for the Shop with the Kid. Well, here comes the
chronic shop lifter wandering in the store planning to steal.
The chief of the town of Hartford Police said, it

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gives these kids something to open on Christmas, We take
them shopping, you know, it's a really nice event for everybody.
But this past Saturday, December sixth, investigators say a twenty
four year old woman named Sophia Mollik, she entered the

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store with plans to steal. According to the report and
the criminal information against her, just three days before the event,
she was at the same Walmart and stole more than
six hundred dollars worth of stuff. No, they know this because,
as they say, Walmart's got a lot of cameras and security,
and sometimes if the person gets out of the store,

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they still know who they are and they turn the
information over to the authorities, or if they can't make
a prosecution on that past one, they're ready for the
person the next time that they come into the store.
Using the example of the casino, the casino catches somebody,
you know, swiping somebody's chip, and they happened to get
out of the casino before you can catch them. They're

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saving that image of that person in case they ever come, well, okay,
so Walmart's ready for this person, and here are all
these cops in the store. Besides, the complaint said that
Mollick comes into the store, I notice she can I'm

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in the cops are in uniform. They're wearing cop uniforms. Now,
I'm sure some of you are thinking you're not gonna
kill me with all those cops in uniform. That she
started to wipe things. No she didn't. She said, well,
what's gonna go in there? But I saw these cops.
You know, they'd tell you in the question you have
a roy to remain silent. I'm always amazed when some

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of these people don't remain silent. I'm glad. I'm glad
they don't. I'm glad they admit that they knew what
they do. But I mean the criminal complaint said that
when an officer confronted Malick in the store, she had
more than two hundred and fifty three dollars worth of
items in her cart. No, again, she hadn't yet stolen.

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She was throwing things into her cart though, and her
history is to steal. But here she was confronted by
the officer before she had departed from the store. But remember,
they have the video of the stealing from the earlier
occasion already on her. Eventually, the complaint said that she
admitted a stealing and told detectives that she was going

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would have shoplifted again, but she changed her mind because
of the number of police in the store. In her car,
they discovered about nine hundred dollars of the stolen toys.
These were toys that were apparently stolen at other stores
or maybe from the earlier Walmart in her car. So

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she had nine hundred dollars worth of stuff in her
car and the stuff was identified as having been stolen,
and they intercepted her. And now that's the beginning of
the story. But as you say, there's more to the story,
I mean, other than this general laziness and incompetence. I

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don't know why the media, when they have a case
like this, doesn't dig into and see if they can
learn a little bit more about the person. Would you
not like to know a little bit more about the person? Well, okay,
well I'm here to serve Sophia Malik. She's got a
lengthy record from this year, but it's not murderer. Any

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of this stuff. She has let me pull up the
I want to call it a rap sheet, but it's
not actually a rap sheet. It's a sheet of her
court engagements this year. This year alone in Washington County,
she was arrested and criminally charged three separate times, plus

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an additional time in Wakeshaw County, all for the same thing,
driving with a voked license with the enhancer of multiple offenses.
The charging dates May twenty seventh, a separate one May
twenty eighth, a day later June twentieth, and then went
in Waukeshaw County on October twenty second, So multiple times

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this year she was nailed for driving without a license.
I only have the criminal charge here. I don't know
the reasons that they pulled her over each time. It
may well be that they knew of her and stopped
her because they knew that they didn't have a license, or
maybe she was doing something else. Don't know. In each instance,

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she was charged, and then you get a court date,
and you know, all these things take time, And while
the first charge is pending, she did it again, and
then yet again, so on the subsequent charges. The judge
in the case knew about the earlier charges that were there,

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but as I said, when you're in a cody in
which all the judges are evers appointed judges, your chances
of being able to do whatever the hell you want
are greater. This ever's appointed judge is Michael Keenan's. After
each instance, he released her on a five hundred dollars

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signature bond. Do I need to explain what a signature
bond is? I always do it. Do you think I
still do? Yes? I do five hundred dollars. Signature bond
means you sign your name and if you violate the bond,
they could say you got to give us five hundred dollars, which,
by the way, in the history of this I'd love
to find the cases of somebody who then forked over

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five hundred dollars. It means that you sign your name
and you skate free, all right. So that's all in
course of this year. Now we get to this past Saturday,
December six, she's charged of stealing all this stuff from Walmart.
She also obviously violated all of these bails from the

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driving cases. When you're all free on bail, you can't
do this, you can't do that, you can't do the
other thing. And also it might add where did they
find all the stolen stuff in her car? Reading she
drove there. Now, this time she went before a different
Washington County judge, and well, the judge's names are different,
they all have the same thing in common. They're all

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Ever's appointed judges. Because the Republican Party in Washington County,
at least under its former leadership, could never get its
act together and recruit strawing candidates to run against these
crappy judges that they're saddled with in these county, these
Evers judges. To the credit of the Republican Party in
Waukeshaw County, every time Evers puts a judge on there,

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they find a competent alternative candidate to run against the
Evers judges. And I don't believe unless something's just slipped
my mind, I think every Ever's judge that was appointed
in Washington in Waukeshaw County got defeat in the subsequent election.
When a judge is appointed by the governor, they do
have to ultimately stand for election. In Washington County, though,

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Ebers puts the judges on the bench and they are
either unopposed or they win the election, which is again
for those of you in Washington County wondering why people
are going into your stores and shoplift and stuff right
and left, and all these scoff laws are out there.
It's because you got four lay mass judges. Now there
is a more conservative DA there. I don't know whether

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or not the low bails here are because you had
a dead ass assistant District Attorney plopping into court being
just as pathetic as the DA's office was under the
last DA, or not. So here's Sophia Malik. Now she's
stealing all of the stuff, and she's got all of
the pending charges against her for all these driving well

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revoked cases, driving a lot of valid license and so on.
So what do you think happened in the most recent case?
This time around, she's in round of Sandra Gearath. Sandra
Gearanath is another eva's appointed judge, because they say in
Washington County that's the only kind of judge they have
is an ever's appointed judge. Sandra Gearnath. Is there a

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signature bond of fifteen hundred dollars, it's still a signature bond.
She let her go again? All right, now, just tell me,
let's imagine your Sophia Malik, you'd have to die your
hair a little bit red. She's got kind of like
the multicolored hair, but not an extreme case of it.
Let's imagine you're her. Please tell me why you wouldn't
a get right back in the car, drive and go somewhere.

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I would encourage not a Walmart. They got cameras everywhere.
I don't know there any guidance on the store chain.
Coles under its new management is changing its thing. But
if you added a shoplift them and you can go
into Coles and say, hey, calls run by you stupid
idiotic lefties, I'm swiping your stuff. Coles is cracking down.
From what I hear. There are a few of those,

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like Urban Outfitters and all of those that they would anyway,
She's gonna probably go and drive and steal it. But
if you're why wouldn't you Now if she drives recklessly
and dangerously and God forbid, kills someone, people were going

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to turn back and wondering why after we kept catching
or driving without a license, we didn't do anything to
work at the very least make her come up with
some cash to get out of jail. And the answer
is if you're not going to be troubled enough to

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recruit a strong candidate or vote for an alternative candidate
against the sorry case of Evers judges that you have,
this is what's gonna happen. So you have a conservative,
law abiding committee, like in this case Hartford's in Washington County,
I'm sure they can't stand these people that are going
into Walmart and stealing stuff like this, and they're wondering
where they steal again and again and again and again
and again. What do you think you're gonna get when

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you got these kinds of Evers judges. This is what
lefties believe in. I would argue that with all the
shoplifting going on and all the baggage, she had just
keep breaking the law and continuing to drive. After she

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gets caught driving, I would have said, seventy five hundred
dollars cash. My guess is she doesn't have it. She
might have to find some idiot who's able to come.
We do have the advantage in Wisconsin of not being
plagued by a class of individuals that are the scum
of the earth. Bail bondsmen. Bail bondsmen exists for the

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sole purpose of letting crooks get out of jail, you
only have to post ten percent of the states that
have bail bonds, and we don't think God in Wisconsin
have all of that. That dog, the bounty hudder and
all of that. They work for bail bondsman companies with
a guy where the person runs off and skips, well,
don't let them skip. Make a pace to post the
whole thing. We have that. But the alternative is because

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you don't have the ability to post only ten percent
for bail if we end up setting this really low
bail of the pathetic signature butt. So that's the story
that I chose to lead the program with, because again,
if you're wondering why this stuff goes on, it's because
we not only enable it. The message she's getting and
maybe at some point one of these Washington County judges
is actually going to get a brain to pop into

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their head, or maybe there will be some pressure that
the voters will actually vote for our conservative candidate that
runs against them, that it might dawn on them to
stop letting people drive without license. I mean, this problem
is plaguing Milwaukee, and we know why it plagues Milwaukee.
Milwaukee's a lefty city, the judges I left you. There's
a what are where conservatis supposed to do about that?

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In Milwaukee? A guy like me, I'm a conservative of Milwaukee.
The people that keep electing lefty judges. We have a
lefty East or any lefty judges. They believe leftism, they
don't believe in punishing people, etcetera, etcetera. What's your excuse
in a community they had like seventy three percent voted
for Trump. Let me move on. We have another case

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of marijuana paranoia. I just don't think there are many
people that are focusing on this issue other than me.
We have seen certainly a link between mass shooters and marijuana,
school shooters and marijuana. I swear almost all of them
are potheads. This doesn't mean that everyone who uses marijuana

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becomes a killer, but it certainly seems to me that
there's a contributory link between paranoia and marijuana. The other
part of this is many people who are you smoking
or taking the edibles or whatever with the marijuana are
using other stuff and they're mixing things. This story a
thirty two year old Milwahia she's a pharmacy student, shot

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and killed by a friend who she was smoking pot with.
The accused killer is Jamika Mills. Didn't have much of
a criminal record other than there's a lot of harassment,
restraining order cases on her and so on, but nothing
otherwise overlay serious. According to the criminal complaint, she was

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hanging around with a friend of hers named Ariel Spilner.
Ariel went to DeForest High School that's west of Madison,
East of Madison, i should say, and was a pharmacy
student at Accordia University of Wisconsin. It was one of

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their birthdays that they're hanging out together smoking pot, and apparently,
according to the criminal complaint, Hills began acting erradically and paranoid.
This has happened again and again and again with people
that either smoke too much hotter, they're mixing it with
something now with everybody, all sorts of drugs act differently

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with others. What I can tell you for those people
that are my generation and they think that the marijuana
that we're talking about is the marijuana that we had
like fifty years ago, I mean, I mean our stuff
was watered down, and first of all, they grow the
pot now to be more potent. Secondly, there's only so
much you can get when you smoke, but if you're
throwing down fifteen fistfuls of edibles and so on, you

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can get very And it is a significant problem that
no one is paying any attention to. We're gravitating forward
legalizing it everywhere, even though the side of effects of it,
the negative side effects of it. The case for them.
You can debate forever what's more serious, cigarettes or marijuana.

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The cigarettes don't seem to create behavior changes, but they
create they do terrible things to your own body. Paul
says people take the bunk gummies because they don't want
to ruin their lungs, but they're take the gummies have
so much that are in there. I mean, I just
remember when I was a kid and I was into beer.
When I was in college. Thank god, I think I

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did pot less than ten times in my life. But
I mean that was when people start fitted out of
figuring out the brownies thing. And I think with the
pot of the brownie is the only reason not to
load the pot up with the brownies. You were having
to eat them. You'd put him in brownie so that
the chocolate been mastered. The fact that they that you
were eating the marijuana eating and not just inhale it
eating it. Well, you put that strung and it because
you were trying to get a buzzy. Your blasted out

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of your mind. Imagine now with these edibles. Next case,
this one deals with the courts as well. James Troops
is a former judge who was one of the supporters
of President Trump in the controversial twenty twenty election. He
was one of the end of viduals who was advising

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Trump and was part of the plan to propose an
alternate set of electors from Wisconsin to challenge the Biden electors,
and Biden had been awarded the state. The left has
been obsessed with this and has claimed that this is
some sort of a crime that they put together the
slate of electors to try to challenge the results of
the election. So James Troopers is criminally charged. Trump has

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pardoned the majority of those who were convicted in these
types of cases, but troopis has not yet been convicted.
His case is pending. He's charged in Dane County. Now,
I hope you all understand why he's charged in Dan County.
If you don't, don't worry, I'll tell you they're charging
him Dane County because they want a home field advantage.

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You're a fake elector for Trump. Of course they're going
to charge them in Dan County. Don't matter what any
of it. It says a jury's going to convict you.
But we're not at that point yet. Troops is challenging
the case in front of the judge and with motions.
Troops and his lawyers have asked the judge in Dane County,

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John Hyland, to step aside from the case to recuse himself.
Troopis is arguing that Hyland is biased, and the evidence
that he presented, which is now making its way into

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the mainstream media, is that a recent ruling in the
case that Highland issued was not authored by Highland. Judges
can have law clerks right their rulings. Now this is
a Dane County Circuit judge. They don't think they have
law clerks. The argument here is that he had a

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total outsider write the opinion. I'm going to quote from
a state that was issued by people that are supporting.
They have presented evidence that the opinion was presented to
the judge by a local left he named Jerry Remington.

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He is the son of former Dan County Judge Frank Remington,
who can't stand Troopers. They are arguing that the Remingtons
wrote the opinion and Troop has simply issued it under
his name. If he did that, obviously it would be
an indication that he is acting unethically and maybe criminally.

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A judge kiss can't put something out that somebody gives
it and claims its own opinion and sign his name
to it. That's worse than Biden in the auto pen.
Troopus's lawyers are asking the United States Department of Justice
at Pam Bondi's office to investigate this. In the meantime,

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Hyland is refusing to recuse himself. This is the level
of justice that we have in Wisconsin and in Dane County.
Every single judge either ran with the supportive Democrats or
was appointed by a Democratic governor. As I said in
the Washington County what what he expected Dane County. Every

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one of the judges is bad. Why do you think
that when the Democrats run a candidate for the state
Supreme Court, it's always a Milwaukee judge or a Dane
County judge. One of the most strident lefties of all,
Chris Taylor, is the one that's going to be on
the ballot for the Supreme Court this spring. These are

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star chambers. Troopis has no chance. His only hope is
after they convict him, which would mean it's barring him.
The Trump will pardon him if the case gets handled
in time. But you can't fall back and hope that
a president is going to pardon you, be just because
we have democratic jud judges in this country that will

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deliberately wrongly convict people. If there is a criminal investigation,
you can establish a grand jury and they can call
the Remingtons and call Highland of the stand and have
them testify under oath as to who wrote this opinion,
and let's see whether or not they take the fifths
or fess up and admit what went on. This is

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out and out corruption. You can debate forever as to
whether or not conservative judges should be doing the same
thing to liberals, break the law and be unethical. I
would say probably you shouldn't. But that's part of the
problem in all of these convictions of Trump that were

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going on, these illicit prosecutions of Trump, Fannie Willis, all
of that stuff. The sexual assault trial, it was simply
Democrats coming out with wrong decisions, wrongly charging or convicting
Trump because they didn't elect Trump, nothing to do with
any facts. Everything's just fabricated. The judiciary was always supposed

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to be the branch of government that was above all
of this. Republicans and Democrats can enlevele themselves like crazy,
but you're supposed to count on judges to apply the
law fairly. The scales of justice. You know, she's Lady Justice.
She's blindfolded because she's not supposed to consider who it
is it's in front of just the facts of the case.
Those days are long gone, and now this the ideology

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of leftists on crime is in place in about fifteen
states in the United States, the ones that are really
really liberal. You're in Wisconsin. We're a mixed bag. Illinois,
as I've pointed out a number of times now, two
years ago, imposed the law of no cash bail. If
you're arrested, in charge, you get out. Everybody gets out

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with the signature bond. The only cases are those in
which bail is denied, and like a mass murder, for example,
they can deny bail, but if there is a bail,
it's simply no cash and that's the overwhelming majority of criminals.
So in Illinois, virtually everyone other than maybe a killer

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who commits a crime gets to walk for you. So
we keep getting these cases of people who've been arrested ten, fifteen,
twenty times and then do something terribly. The Republicans have
been pretty inept at towering Democrats with this, but they
all believe in it. There are a fair number of

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Republicans that were biting into it a few years ago,
and I managed to go after some of them. They
have their seminars over at the Badger Institute Criminal Justice Reform.
All of that crap. This case stories from Chicago Prosecutors
say a Northwest cardiologist was violently beaten in an elevator

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at Northwestern Hospital by a man security recognized from thirty
plus incidents this year. The guy's been hanging around at
the hospital causing trouble. First of all, who hangs around
at a hospital? Well normally, but I mean, first of all,
you're a weird type of prebblemaker. If the place that

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you're hanging out and causing trouble is a hospital, I'll
tell you often who they are. They're often street people.
The hospital is a warm place. Then they let you in,
they don't throw you out. Don't know what his background was,
but the security said that they recognize him for thirty
other incidents. The Chicago Police Department arrested him twelve times
this year alone, twelve times. Still free. Now he stabbed

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a cardiologist. That's terrible for that cardiologist, for all of
his lefty colleagues that are wrote here again, seriously, what
do you think is going to happen? I'm gonna put
this same thing to the goofy evers judges and watching it,
counting this woman that's doing the shoplifting, driving without the lights.
How is this gonna end up going? Just continue to
put her on the street, put her on the street,

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put on the seat. By the way, it states in
her criminal and in her file with on the driving
without a license charges that there's a resolution expected next
week on the seventeenth, so that they took all of
her driving without a license cases and throw them into one.
I'm just sitting here telling you, I'm betting she's gonna
get probation, that she'll get nothing for any of it. Now,

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the shoplifting thing, we'll see what they what they do
to her and that that's the separate case and that'll
take a little bit longer to go along. But again
she's free on that one as well. I'm killing you,
And I'm not suggesting that all of these cases had
the same level of pattern of violence that was leading
up to oh losing his name, the Walker Shop, Darrol Brooks,

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the Daryl Brooks case. Daryl Brooks had cases of violence,
but a lot of it was this crap. We've learned
nothing from slapping the wrist repeatedly of chronic lawbreakers. Nothing.
And as I say it, Milwaukee's going the way of

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Chicago and San Francisco with regard to the criminal justice
thing and so on. There is zero excuse for Washington
County none. What's excuse? What's excuse? Now? They did, as
I say, they had a lefty district attorney Benson for
a number of years, he retired, he handpicked his replacement,

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and she had an opponent of the Republican primary, more
conservative Da Broughts, and he managed to win. That's a start.
And hopefully in the judicial elections, they're going to run
challengers against all of your rotten judges that you're saddled
with up there in Washington County and some of these
elections and gradually take care of it. But you hear
very little groundswell of opposition. Every police chief in Washington

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County should be standing up each time one of these
things happen and condemn your crappy judges. You're saddled with there.
But again, Tony Ebs is putting a judge on the bench.
Who do you think he's gonna put on? Evers doesn't
pick these judges himself. The guy's half gone. Maggie Gow's
the real governor of the state. She's a lefty. She's
gonna pluck lefty judges and put him in there. What

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do you think she's gonna do? It'd be like if
you had a conservative. Let's suppose I was the governor.
You think I'm gonna go put in a bunch of lefties?
Why would I do that. I'm gonna put in somebody
who thinks the way that I think. Stop ranting and raving,
all right, this is the Mark Duelling podcast. This is
the Markdlling podcast. There are many times in which you

(30:47):
can't help but look at a story and sort of
feel superior. I mean, I'm honest about myself. I'm half
an idiot, but there's a limit as the house stupid
I am. This is going to bring us to the
Sharon More case, head football coach at the University of Michigan,
lost everything and now he's sitting in jail because he

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can't keep his pants sept guy's married with four kids,
and he's the head coach at Michigan that pays millions
and millions of dollars. The details are starting to filter
out in the case, in part because the woman involved,
evidently involved, scrubbed your social media yesterday. The story is

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going something like this University of Michigan and again they've
had problems in their athletic department. They had to let
the basketball coach, Juwan Howard go. He was a basket case.
Jim Harbaugh the former football coach, you know, tremendous success
by the time that he had left bought. There were
recruiting violations, the whole Connor Stallion's thing, the guy that

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was spying on opposition teams, etc. But nothing to the
point of inappropriate sexual conduct and so on. Sharon Moore
was the right hand man of Jim Harbaugh and he
got the job in Harbaugh left to go to the NFL. Apparently,

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University of Michigan officials were notified earlier in the year
that there was an inappropriate relationship going on between the
football coach and someone on staff. The story indicates that
they didn't have enough to act on it, and I

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understand you need to have enough to act on it.
Anybody can say anything. And my guess is that probably
somebody said, hey, the coach is messing around, but everybody's
denying it, so you don't have a criminal I don't
know if they have the ability to grab his cell
phones or not, if he's an employee or not, but
nothing really came of it. And then they say in
the last twenty four hours they were able to verify

(33:01):
the allegation. So Moore was fired yesterday afternoon. Last night,
he was arrested after an incident at a woman's house.
The woman happens to live in the community where the
police arrested, and while she hasn't been named, it appears
as though he went to her house after she was fired.

(33:23):
Now I'm putting two and two together. I believe the
verification that they got is that she said he did it.
Now you would think I'm a guy, I'm not married,
But I'm a guy. You'd think that most guys would
think through that. If you have a girlfriend on the
side who's doing something, you're gonna have a hard time ditchinger.
And at some point, if you're married in four kids,
you're either going to divorce your wife and you know,

(33:45):
have a visitation with your four kids, you're gonna have
to marry the girlfriend. But there must have been some
reason in which she verified and corroborated the allegation. So
now he's ruined, his career is shot, and apparently went confrontator.
He's not been charged, he's only been arrested, but apparently
there was some sort of incident in which maybe violence

(34:07):
is too strong of a word, we don't know yet,
but it was an incident. Policeman notified, and now he's arrested.
So the dumbass responds to the fact that she essentially
ratted out their relationship by being idiotic enough to go
to her house and try to do something about it,
which begs the larger question. It's the same question I
asked with regard to these idiots that are looking at

(34:29):
kiddie porn. Is it worth it if the consequences of
getting caught. Is you ruin your career? Is this girlfriend
on the side worth that? Evidently not, since he panicked,
now getting himself arrested over the whole thing. Here's the

(34:54):
thing about this. If there's anything in our society for
which the rules are just clear, here a boss can't
have sex with a subordinate. I mean this is bike
Mike now basically established. You not only can't have sex
with him, you can't even like ask or try to
drive at it or Hinna. You can't, like Matt lower

(35:16):
your way or you can't do it. The number of
people at Corporate America, Sports World and someone that have
been fired for having an inappropriate relationship with a subordinate,
It goes on and on and on and on it.
I'm telling you, who doesn't know that it's a good thing.
You don't have subordinates? Who, So, Dave Michael, we do

(35:43):
structure that under you. You were claiming you have some authority.
I want to see you ordered one day. I want
to see you right now, go order Dave Michael's to
do something. Are you a lame duck? Anyway? They'll just
blow you off. All right. Let's imagine you had some
female weekend producer even if you have. First of all,
you've got the consequences of your wife killing you if

(36:05):
you did anything like this. But I suppose you didn't
have that. You know that that's a fireable offense. Everyone
knows that. There's only one exception here. You can do
it if you work for Tony Evers. Other than that example,
Tony Evers is chief of staff as a relationship with
Tony Evers's press secretary chief of staff Maggie gow As

(36:28):
the boss brick cutterback is and it's been exposed, it's
been reported by the media, and Evers is allowing it.
Other than Tony Evers, every single employer, particularly of anything
pretending to government or public, a thready company or something,
it's a fireable offense if you mess around with an underlay.
And the reason it's a fireable offense is the individual
who is the underlink can always turn around and file

(36:49):
a lawsuit in the employer is going to have to
pay a massive amount of damages, So you ban the
employee from doing it. As for as she rode more again,
I'm a male. I mean, I've never been married. I
get that if you're married and you want to mess around,
it's not like you can be real openly, so you're
going to probably mess around with somebody in the workplace

(37:10):
because you've got an excuse for being in the workplace.
It's not like you know so, but the consequences of
messing around outside of work are only well, maybe your
wife would be hacked off. You're not going to get
fired over when you do it in a case of
a subordinate it raises all of the issues that are
in every employee code of conduct that are out there.

(37:32):
Sin O Cheron Morris fired. In the meantime, the internet
is already rife with why did they wait on? The
university apparently is going to say we didn't corroborate the
story until yesterday, which tells me she must have been
the one that corroborated it. The alternative theory is Michigan.
You know, all of these every college football team, the
fan base is just insane. If you're not gonna win

(37:54):
a national championship, they want to fire the coach. These
teams are firing coaches, and they're hiring replacements that are
nowhere near as good and maybe, okay, well, Sharon Moore
wasn't as good as Jim Harbough. Maybe we want to
get rid of him. There are rumors out there that
the Alabama coach Kilin de Boor, who's only been there
two years, is Michigan's target and they're going to use
this to be able to fire more for cause if

(38:15):
a fire, and for cause he gets no buyout, and
try to hire the Alabama coach. I don't know if
that's true or not. It's just an internet rumor that's
out there, but if it is true, it would mean
that we now have four of the twelve teams in
college football playoffs whose coach is walking away from the
team when they're in the playoffs. Again, though Duboor thing
hasn't happened. It's just an internet rumor. Now to this,

(38:39):
the Democrats have an astonishing a huge field running for governor.
Sarah Rodriguez perceived to be the front runner because she
was Lieutenant governor and torony vers and she's made backed
by the public employee unions. But every left wing politician
from Madison is running, some crazy, some just regular old lefties.
Keld Roy state Senator, half nuts radical, she's running. Francesca Hong,

(39:03):
statement Member of the State Assembly Madison. She's running. Missy Hughes,
who's Evers is head of the Department of Economic Development,
is running and is expected to have the backing of
the Evers crowd. The Evers crowd does not like the
Lieutenant Governor Sarah Rodrigers, but the Evers crowds backing. That's
how much influence are they have with the rest of
Democrats don't know. In the meantime, you have the county

(39:23):
executive in Milwaukee County, David Crowley, running getting backed by
a lot of Milwaukee Democratic officials. Now Mendela Barnes is running,
probably has better name recognition than the any of them,
and is going right after the African American support that
Crowley would have. This is already a fairly large field
of candidates, and now Joel Brennan's running. Joel Brennan has

(39:45):
a big deal. Joel Brennan is a major member of
the Milwaukee establishment. He's the president of the Greater Milwa
Hockey Committee. The Greater Milwaukee Committee used to be a
really big deal. It isn't so much anymore. But it's

(40:06):
kind of like the old guard of Milwaukee leadership, which
now is primarily it's a few corporate executives. The universities,
the hospitals and so on. But it's a big deal.
He's running for governor, and he's running for governor going
after a niche that I don't think exists in this party.
But you can't say this in a twelve candidate rate.

(40:27):
He has it for himself. He's running as a moderate
in a party in which all of them seem to
be trying to be AOC. Brennan is saying, I want
to run as a moderate. I'm going to be sort
of pro business. I'm going to work with Democrats and Republicans.
He's a lefty and you know he's been working for
lefties his entire life. But he thinks that there may
be a nicheer and the ability to raise a fortune
from the business community. Why everybody believes twenty six is

(40:49):
a democratic here, which you mean the Democrats would win
the governorship. Well, there are a whole lot of moderate
Wisconsin and it's business and so on that when I
hedge their bets and they don't want a lunatic life,
Mendela Barnes to be the governor, and could they come
up with enough money to bank rule Brannan to push
him over the finish line don't know. What we do
know is this unlike the normal thing where the Democratic

(41:12):
bosses annoying someone, they are going to have a massive,
multi candidate field of Democrats that are going to have
to go negative on one another in order to have
a chance of winning. I'm want to cover this story here.
We may or may not do a follow up on

(41:33):
this as time goes on. There is a drug. It's
a generic that's been out there for many, many years now.
Please pay attention closely. It's not ivermectin, but it's like ivermectin.
Ivermectin was the drug that began controversial during Ivermectin's went

(41:56):
around forever and ever and ever and ever. And it's
an anti parasitic. They call it a dew warmer. It's
you're treated for parasites. But because it does that, it
is thought to have significant properties in fighting other types
of invaders of the body. And there's pretty strong evidence
that ivermectin was indeed infective in fighting COVID. This druffic

(42:17):
isn't ivermectin. I'm just using it as a comparison. This drug,
the short term, the slogan for the slang for it
is fen Been. It's called finn bad. Come on, mark,
finn bandasol. That's it. F E n b E n
d A z l E. There is a published paper

(42:42):
by three academics. This is not based on a study,
It is based on anecdotal evidence, but they publish the
paper because they are trying to jump start looking into
this again. Fen Been finn ben has I want to

(43:02):
say this better, I'm just not doing it. Fenbendazol. That's it,
finn bendazol. It's been suspected of having very very good
properties in helping your body fight off invaders because it
is an antiparasitic. There are three separate cases of individuals
who had stage four cancer. Stage five's the d stage

(43:23):
four cancer. They self medicated themselves by taking fen Been,
and according to the published paper, all three of the
cases the individuals are cancer free now the papers now published.
It doesn't appear in the New England Journal of Medicine,
but it is in an academic journal. I'm going to

(43:46):
quote from the paper. The report highlights three cases of
patients with advanced cancer including breast, prostate and melanoma. I
think interesting, three different types of cancers. Two patients achieved
complete remission and one unachieved near complete remission after incorporating
fbc it's fenmen into their treatment regimens alongside other therapies

(44:09):
excluding chemotherapy. In other words, they didn't do chemo. All
three patients tolerated FBZ without any reported adverse effects, and
remission was sustained during period during follow up periods ranging
from eleven months to nearly three years. And then they
go through and they present the cases. No am I
saying Fanbang cures cancer. No, what I am saying is

(44:31):
it's that there are and you see this and any
number of things that are going on right now. There
are a lot of people that are talking about the
tremendous strength of taking vitamin D to help your body
ward things off. Now we have this, Why how come
no doctors? Why isn't there ready research? Because almost all
of the research that's being done is of new experimental

(44:52):
drugs that are being created by big pharma. A new
drug is under patent and you could charge a fortune
for it. The pharmaceutical companies couldn't care less about a
generic because anybody can make a generic when a drug
goes off patent, and as generic, any company can simply
produce it, and those generic drugs tend to be very
very cheap. The FDA and the CDC, as they have

(45:16):
argued forever, it's changing now with Kennedy, have been chills
for the drug companies and they simply disregard. In fact,
if you search and do a Google search on fenmen,
they'll say that there are no clinical trials proving that
it is effective. That's correct, Well, do one, but there
are none that have said he it doesn't work either
because it hasn't been tested. But we do have doctors

(45:38):
now that are reporting on people that are self reporting
and against self reporting, we don't have it verified. It's
not a trial group. And again, the hard thing with
any kind of drug testing on a cancer patient is
you've got to give half the people a placebol. Well,
what cancer patient wants to be Maybe I'm getting the placebo.
It's a hard thing to test. But one thing we
do know that you can certainly do is if somebody

(46:00):
who has cancer and they're croaking and they start on
this and it reverses, it's a pretty good indication that
maybe everybody ought to try it. Since the drug doesn't
seem to have any side effects, we have had a
scandal in the pharmaceutical and medical industry of various treatments
being shunted a side because the big drug companies don't

(46:24):
make money off of them. The thing that is just
to me so stunning is that the Left has decided
to make big pharma and arm of itself when they
embraced Fauci and they pushed for mandatory vaccines and disregarded
and mocked anybody who would try a drug that was
already out there. We all know that vitamin D helped

(46:45):
your body fight off COVID, but nobody was telling you
that because nobody's making any money off of it. The
CDC was in the hands of the drug companies. Now
Kennedy is changing the members of the panel and they're
more open minded on this stuff. But the stories out
there and it's getting some circulation from people. In many
cases doctors. There are a lot of doctors, generally the

(47:06):
ones that aren't tied into the big chains, that are
advocating for some of these things, that have a pretty
strong indication that they may at least in some cases work.
And finally this I posted this piece on x and
I'm only going to cover it briefly here, but if
you want to read the entire story, go to Mark
Belling Show on x dot com, which is my handle.

(47:30):
Texas Tech University is no I've got conservative leadership, and
you know the governor of Texas is a conservative. Trump
has put in place these rules trying to get all
this leftist crap out of the classroom. And in the
case of Texas Tech University, you have true believers that
are actually running the university, and the president of Texas
Tech has come up with his way of combating it. See,

(47:52):
it's not enough to just say you can't have DIII
or you can't put bias in your classroom, because how
do you judge whether or not bias is in there.
So they put in specific rules in writing, and they
have a flow chart and I'm going to read from
the flow chart here. Again, it's easier if you see it,
and I told you where you could find it. Is
the course material required for professional licensure certification or client

(48:16):
care in other words, whatever the class is, is this
required for you to advance in that degree? Now why
are they asking that question? It would be an explanation
of why a math teacher whether or not they should
be bringing up something or another about how racist America is.
The question is aimed at excluding stuff that is e
estraneus to the course. And then does faculty member believe

(48:42):
that the course material is relevant and necessary for classroom instruction?
If yes, then the next question is is it required
for professional certification in the field. If the answer is yes,
no immediate changes to the course are necessary. But if
the answer is no, does the faculty member request review
of scientific court its material to potentially remain in the course.

(49:04):
If yes, requests the department chair. If yes, request continues
to go to the dean. If yes, request continues to
go to the provost to consider. In other words, you've
got to get three levels of approval if you want
to continue to put this in the class if it
doesn't relate directly to to certification in the field. And
then after that, when it gets to the provost, does

(49:26):
the provost believe the material needs to remain. If the
answer is yes, the provost provides a recommendation and justification
of the chair and vice chair of academics for the
Student Affairs Committee and so on. So if they're doing
a Texas Tech and there's a story in the Daily
caller that I've linked up here on this. The faculty's
up in arms over this because now they're being forced
to document and explain why this lefty crap that they're

(49:49):
in there can be in their course. If you don't
put it in writing and you don't have the final
arbiter in this case, the president being a true believer
who doesn't want this crap in, you'll never get it out.
It is an interesting case study, though, and how to
get this stuff out of the coursework material. We've got

(50:10):
our football preview and football picks coming up next. We
covered quite a bit here. Should I fess up on
my latest level of idiocy? I just I mean I
kind of enjoy making fun of myself, and I mean,
there's only so much I could do making fun of
you and somebod people think it's kind of like I'm okay,

(50:31):
find you're an idiot, and I pointed out people think
that's mean. But if I draw attention to my own
being an idiot, I've been in need of dente WHI work.
It's pushing the end of the year. I go to
floid at the end of the year and so on,
So of course, get it done now, right, well, you know,
they do these X rays and okay, you got a
dead tooth. It's starting to hurt, only a little, but

(50:55):
it's okay, you look at it. It's got to go
because you don't want to wait too long because then
your toothache is miserable and awful. And a tooth extraction
it's like a root canal, but it's not exactly the
same thing, but it means they got to dig in
there and rip the whole damn thing out. You've had those,
haven't you? Two root canals? See this one is in

(51:16):
the front, it's not off to the side. But okay,
So I scheduled this for Tuesday, and you know, you
work with the oral surgeon and then my dentist, and
the plan was, and I'm not going to go through
all this because sort of boring, and I'm very happy
with the quality of care that i got, But the
plan was for my dentist. Right after that, they took
this tooth out for the dentist to put on a crown,
a temporary crown. Temporary chrowns are plastic, and put that

(51:38):
over the gap so that I'm not running around with
an empty gap muth and they create an implant. After
the thing is healed, they put the implant in and
then a new crown. But that's a month long thing,
so that I'm able in the meantime to have a
tooth in place in there. You know, they ripped the
other tooth out and so on it. I've had dental
work forever. My home outh is crowns and I even
recall having a root canal way back of the day.

(52:00):
So this is on Tuesday, and the dentist is talking
to me about this and so on. I said, well,
I have to give a speech on Wednesday. In fact,
I had a talk that I gave in Manatuish Waters yesterday,
so this will be perfect. I'll do the thing on Tuesday.
I recorded Wednesdays podcast on Monday, and the dentist is
kind of look at me, well, you think you should

(52:21):
talk to the surgeon and see if that's okay to
do that, And I thought, I mean I could, but
why why wouldn't it be I'm having it out on Tuesday.
And then she said, well, it's possible it's gonna affect
your speech. And I'm thinking you're putting this crown on there,
even though it's temporary and it's not sized. But will
you hear me right now, I don't sound any different.
I'm just thinking this is gonna be fine, this is

(52:41):
gonna be fine. It's okay. So they go in, they
numb me. They put fifteen shots in my mouth and
numb me on it just on and on and on
and on, so I feel nothing. The oral surgeon offered gas.
There's a question of whether or not you should take
the gas. You know what. The answer always is, yes,
it's HiT's the one. It's the one like buzz that's

(53:03):
actually legal. It doesn't I don't think you can get
addicted to it because you'd have to buzzt into what
dnnis office and figure out how to turn the thing
on and put it on your But I mean it
gives you a buzz so that they can do this
horrid stuff that's going on, and you're distracted and you're
a little bit So I say yes, the Rik and
I have not had the gas of years, have not
needed this, and a lot of dentists, but the over

(53:23):
the oral surgery they do that. Then I go to
the regular dentist. She puts the crown on in the
whole thing, and you know, because they put so much
numbing in because of where it was in my jaw
and so on. I was numbed for multiple hours getting
back to Tuesday evening, and I had to get up
really early Wednesday because it was the group is not
all that important, but our my partner in our podcast

(53:44):
of presenting sponsor U Line, was part of the organizer
of it, and they have big operations in Manitouish Waters,
and so therefore I meant driving and then flying on
the jet and going up there and then driving, et cetera.
And I gave a very nice talk. And by the way,
maned Wishwaters, that's way up there. You just think everything's
up north. You don't know this. It's still an hour
from Rhinelander. So we flew to Rhineland and then drive

(54:05):
for an hour. It just snowed like crazy. The night
before it was just so beautiful. The Holy Air is beautiful.
So I get all all of that. I'm telling you.
When the anesthesia war on, I think I have a
high pain threshold. I guess I had forgotten after they

(54:25):
do a root canal or a tooth extraction how much
it hurts. I mean Tuesday and I'm sitting at it
Holy cow. My first thing is I'm not going to
be able to fall asleep. It hurt too much to
fall asleep. Well, they did give me, you know, they
gave me a prescription of a narcotic painkiller and I've
had to take that in the past for headaches, and

(54:47):
I tolerated fairly well, I took one. Well, I'm telling
you nothing. So I get up, you know, at five
thirty or so yesterday morning to head to drive to
walk Egan for the planes, trains, et cetera. Part of
this in just telling you slooped out of my mind.
So after I drove and got onto the plane, and

(55:10):
then I was being driven from Ryan Landard and so on.
The presentation was given by a guy who was on
a significant amount of painkillers. Or the alternative would have
been is that I would have just been crying rather
than I do kind of remember what I said, and
I think it went fine, and I think I have
a high level of tolerance of this. But the stupidity is,

(55:33):
I mean, then I read the post, I guess I
had just forgotten. And now that I recall this, when
I had my root canal, I ended up getting one
of they call those air sockets or whatever not that
didn't happen. It's still too early to know if it
happens here. This is dry socket. This was only two
days ago that I haven't but now I remember after
the root canal, I was sore for a week and
a half, two weeks. Well, I guess I forgot that

(55:54):
one I agreed to. You know, I survived. See why
didn't I remain The dentist is even saying, well, do
you think that's a good idea? And I guess I
was kind of thinking that this was the same as
like just when they numb you to do a little
procedure or take a crown off, which is a nothing.
There's ant taking a crown off, which just pulling a

(56:15):
thing off the top, then going into your gums and
sawing out and chopping your boat apart. I'm here, I'm fine.
Whatever I hear, he goes, oh, I don't want to
do this. I don't want to do that. I don't
want to do the other thing. Ain't In the end,
it was. In the end, despite everything I described, it

(56:35):
was no big deal. All these people. I just saw
all these people that are want like all the millennials
that are whining about this and the anxiety and this
ad or the other thing. Am I not right? Everybody
has anxiety and everybody when they say that, I just
know when people say that they're in pain, I just
don't believe anybody anymore because I think that they claim
any kind of discomfort. Is this this terrible, awful, unbearable?

(57:00):
And I mean I get bad headaches all the time.
I'm used to pain. I'm used to it in my life.
I have arthritis in the neck with a pinge nerve.
I got all of this. I mean that mouth hurt.
I mean, you're taking up painkillers. It will mask the pain.
And you know, it wasn't like I was, you know,

(57:20):
flying the plane. I did ask if I could use
the private jet to go to Florida next week. I
did ask that, do you think the answer was yes
or no? The answer was not yes, and it was
not no. The answer was just greeted with laughter, like
that's not a joke. First of all, why not ask?

(57:43):
The worst they could do is say no, which I
knew they would say. But if they would have said yes,
I would have just felt guilty, you know, Get you
all right? Football coming up next? This is the mark
Belling Podcast, and it's the last podcast of the week,
which means it's time for our week they football preview

(58:03):
and some point spread picks, and we're joined as always
by Mike, well not as always because he was a
no show last week, but normally by Mike lative American
sports analysts and Madison. Their website is really easy a
sa wins dot com. I always ask Mike the same
question to start off, and I'm going to do it again.
Anything you'd like to share with us about what's going

(58:25):
on this week at at ASA.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Sure, I got some stuff for you this time.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Good.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
We are Bowls start on Saturday night. Obviously, we have
a bull package up one nine for all of our bullpicks. Now,
we won't pick every bowl game, it's probably ten to
fifteen range. You'll get picks. We've been really good in college.
We were three and o last week. We won six
of our last seven top games in college. So they're
interested in our bullpickets around the front pole packages right
on the front page.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
I'm finally getting smart. I'm happy with what happened last week.
The pick that I made on the radio was correct.
I had a really good opinion in Indiana covering the
spread against Ohio State, didn't have to use that on
the year, and so on, So I think I have
my mojo back. We're going into the bowl season, which
includes all of these lesser balls, some of which are

(59:10):
really good betting opportunities, and then you've got the lengthy
college football playoffs and so on, and as Mike mentioned,
there is one ball game on Saturday, but there's another
college game, the one kind of outlier game. It's the
last game of the regular season and the only two
teams that play in a non ball game this year,
and that's because it's the traditional game between Army and Navy.

(59:34):
They play every year on a semi neutral field. This
year it's in Baltimore, which is close to the Naval Academy,
but crowds are split in everything, and it's one of
those games in which the word tradition actually applies, and
it's always a good view. The games are almost always competitive,

(59:54):
and it's clearly the most important game of the year
for both schools. I mean, it's the ultimate rivalry the
Army and the Navy. This year, both teams fit were
both teams are now in a conference. They're both in
the American Association. Navy had a little bit better of
a year, but from once the teams are different. Navy
scored a lot of points but had a bad defense,

(01:00:17):
and Army's defense was very good, but they don't know
much of an offense. They run similar offenses. The joke
on this game forever was just take the under. I
think Army and Navy had gone under sixteen seventeen, eighteen
years in a row, and finally it hasn't. Probably the
lines just got a little bit low, but I'd be
interested in Mike's analysis of the game. Navy's favored by

(01:00:37):
about six points in the game, and the point spread
is a low one eight thirty eight or thirty thirty
eight and a half because historically it's a low scoring game.
But this year Navy's quarterbacks scoring machine, Navy puts up
points like crazy. Maybe it'll be different this year. What
do you think about this game?

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Yeah, you mentioned the totals on that seventeen and two
to the under the last nineteen meetings, but two of
the last three have been over the total now, so
they've adjusted a little bit. The forty four points total
points they scored last year were the most they've scored
in this series since twenty thirteen, so it's just been
a low scoring series. You mentioned Navy is the better
team this year. They have the better record. They're nine

(01:01:16):
to two Army six and five. Much better stats for Navy.
Navy actually averages that they both run the ball all
the time. We know that, but Navy is much better
at it. They average almost two yards per carry more
than Army, and they allow cure yards per carry than
the Army. But this was similar to last year, Mark,

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I mean Navy. Army came in as the much better
team last year and favored by six and Navy won outright.
So very similar situation this year at six and a
half point spread, with Navy as the favored is favored
eleven and the last fifteen have been decided by a
touchdown or less. I don't have a good feel for that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Yeah, all of that would point to taking Army because
underdogs have done well, they're always close games and so
on or right, Navy has played somewhat better. Army's a
weird team though. They have two or three really quality
games this year where they either beat or took a
top team to the wire, but they've also lost to
a couple of really bad teams both have two weeks

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to prepare. The thing that my theory forever on why
they're such low scoring games is they both run a
version of the option offense, and hardly anybody does, so
when those schools play everybody else, the defenses aren't used
to it. But if any two defenses would be, it's
Army and Navy because they in practice play defense against

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their own team's offenses, so they are skilled in knowing
how to stop the option, and the coaching staffs are
very familiar with the offense, and that's why they tend
to be low scoring games. Lacking any better theory, that's
the one that I go with. College football playoffs are
going on end. The whole thing's a mess, which I
knew it would be a mess. The more teams that
you add to it, the more controversy there's going to

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be about who's going to be in it. You've got
coaches of teams that are in the playoffs leaving their
schools even though they're still in. Now you've got just
all sorts of weird side shows. Michigan, which is not
in it, fired their coach or proceeded to get arrested
right after the game. There are internet rumors that Alabama's
coach is being targeted for this. They're in the playoffs,

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holding just bizarre. I want to dive get away from
all of that because the playoffs don't start yet this week.
They start weekend the following weekend. But you can for
those people who want to bet, and if you want
to go down to Potto or O Night in greenme
or Hoochhunk, they do have bets in which you can
bet on who's going to win the college football playoffs

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and their odds for each team. Ohio State's a favorite,
I think I've looked at Pottawatami at a little over
two to one in Indiana is a close second choice
to that. What I want to ask Mike is with
the twelve teams in there, is there a good value bet?
In other words, a team that has a better chance
then maybe it's odds would indicate. And I kind of

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looked at that, and I wondered if maybe the favorite,
maybe Ohio State is actually good value even though there
they won last year. I think having played Indiana already once,
they might not bump into them again if they get
knocked off the line that kind of jumped out of me.
Is I just wonder if you know a two to
one bet in Ohio State which gets a buy in

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the first down, so they only have to win three games.
Maybe that's the place to go. Do you have any
thoughts on this? It would there'd be one or two
teams that would present good value to win the whole
thing in college football.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Yeah, I'd say the one team that I think has
some value as Texas Tech. Yeah. Now you can get
them at almost ten to one to win the whole thing.
They're nine to nine and a half ten in that range.
They're twelve and one straight up, twelve and one against
the spread. Now, the one thing that has been talked
about is they haven't played the most difficult strength of schedule,

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but they they've won every game they've played by twenty
two points.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
I mean, they've had to play BYU I think twice now,
and BYU was maybe the second best team in that league.
They plasted in both times. You know, you can only
beat who it is that you play, and I think
you're right about that. I just I think what happens
with these rankings and polls is a team that ends

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up better than they were supposed to be, just never
gets to the top of the polls, and Texas Tech
is regarded is not as strong as Ohio State in
Indiana because at the beginning of the year they weren't
regarded as the strongest team in the Big Twelve. And
maybe they're simply better than people think. I think you
mentioned that they're nearly ten to one. They're not even
the third choice in the bed. I think Georgia is

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the third choice in the betting, and Texas Tech's going
to get a buy. That's a key. They have one
fewer game that they would need to win, and it's
kind of unclear as to how good they are, and
maybe they are the equal of those other teams.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
Yeah, and a couple of things I like about their situation.
They're on the opposite side of the bracket from Ohio
State and Georgia, so if they play one of those
two teams, it's going to be in the National Championship game.
I like that situation. They have a bye, so they're
probably gonna play Oregon. Oregon's beatable. I think that game
is going to be about a pick them type game.
If they win that, they're playing either Indiana, Oklahoma or

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Alabama get to the National Championship game and you've got
ten to one sit in your pocket. So I like
Texas Tech in their situation. I really do.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Let's turn our attention to the NFL two games to
talk about the Packers and the Broncos. Now, when people
sized up prior to the beer game last week, I
think a lot of Packer fans thought, we have a
chance to beat the Bears twice. But the game you're
going to lose is the one in between, the far
less important game, the non conference game with the Denver

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But the Packers are two and a half point favorites
on the road in Denver, so the odds makers think
that they're going to win. I think sometimes we can
overreact to well, this isn't as big a game. They'll
be looking forward and so on. Maybe if a team
is playing really good, they can win. But also this
game is, as you know, much of a drop down

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game for Denver as it is for Green Bay. I mean,
for neither team is this a circle game on the
schedule that that they have to win. What do you
think of the Packards and the Broncos too? You know,
the Packers are playing very very well right now. Denver
has won ten in a row. It's the same comment

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though that I have about New England. They've won ten
in a row, and it's almost like both teams got
to go and pick the worst teams in the NFL
and get to play and get to play the both
of them. On the other hand, you know it, you
can only beat the team that you're playing that particular week.
I just look at so many of Denver's results and
they're kind of like the Bears. Every game they win

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is close. It's never all that impressive. Bo Nix is
doing nothing quarterback, but that's partly because he hasn't needed
to do so much at quarterback because their defense is
so good. I have no idea what's going to happen
in this game. I think the Packers could go out
there and win. I think they could lose by twenty points.
I just so know, Mike, Why don't you tell us

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what you think is going to happen.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Yeah, a couple things in this game. First of all,
he talked about Denver playing close games. They have. They
played thirteen games overall, and eleven have been decided by
a one score, So they're nine to two in one
score games. So that's why they have the record that
they have. It's a unique situation in that they've won
ten straight games and they're a home underdog. So I
look back in our database since nineteen eighty three, there

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have been thirty two teams that have won exactly ten
straight games, so going for their eleventh straight win, only
twice have those teams been an underdog out of thirty
two times. Only once a home underdog out of thirty
two times, and that was a few weeks ago. A
few years ago, when Kansas City played the Chargers late
in the year at the last last game of the season,
they sat everyone because they already had clenched whatever spot.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
So that was a situation in which the team that
had the long winning streak had no reason to play anybody,
as opposed to this game where we're still right in
the guts of the season.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
Yeah, so really, you can say this is the first
time out of thirty two times that in this situation
the team's been a home underdog. Just never happens. Denver's
undefeated at home six and all. They won eleven straight
games at home at home as an underdog, They've been
an underdog once this season. They beat Kansas City outright,
and historically back to nineteen eighty, they've potentially been the
best home dog in the NFL. They're forty four and

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twenty five against the spread of the home dog, almost
sixty five percent. It's nineteen eighty. It's a fishy, fishy line.
As far as I'm concerned, I'm surprised Denver didn't just
come out as a one point pick in this game.
In this situation. It seems like they're begging you to
take Denver in this situation, just based on everything I just.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Talked at, And usually when they do that, that means
you shouldn't be taking you shouldn't be taking Denver.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
Ya.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
I know they work off of power ratings and everything,
and you're right. The fact that Denver never is dominant,
they just win means that the algorithms they use for
those power rhythms power rating rankings aren't as strong. There's
a similar situation with the other game that I want
to talk about here. Buffalo is at New England. What's

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New England's winning streak, Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
They're eleven and two as well. I'm not sure how
many in a row they've won, but they're yeah, they're
they have a good record, they're in a home dog,
very similar.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
Situation, similar situation. They're a one point underdog to Buffalo,
even though New England is playing at home, has a
better record and they've been doing nothing but win, win, win,
win win. It was ten in row. That's what I thought,
that both Patriots and Denver are both ten in rows.
Everything that Mike cited in the Denver thing kind of
applied to the New England game. The qualifier on that

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is the Packer Denver game isn't crucial for either team.
The New England Buffalo game, obviously is. It's a game
New England is playing for the best record in the NFL.
Buffalo is just trying it, still, trying to make sure
that they make the playoffs. Altogether, it's another game in
which if you just looked at the teams, generically you'd
say that the home team would be favored, but in

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this case they're not, with New England being a one
point underdog at home to Buffalo. Your thoughts on that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
Game, same thing, Fishy Line. You think New England would
be a slight favorite, as you just mentioned AFC East
and implications. If New England wins, they clinched the AFCs over.
If they lose, that pulls the Bills to within one
game of the lead, and they split their season series.
So it's wide open down the stretch if the Bills win,

(01:11:44):
so it's a huge game for both. New England won
in Buffalo earlier this year. Buffalo is favored by eight.
New England won twenty three to twenty. Yardage was dead
even it came down to turnovers. Buffalo had two more
turnovers then New England did New England. As you mentioned
to about Denver, Newingo's played by far the easiest schedule.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
I've got their list and we're going to go backwards,
in other words, starting with two weeks ago before the bye.
This is New England's schedule. The Giants, Cincinnati, the Jets, Tampa, Atlanta, Cleveland, Tennessee,
New Orleans. I just listed the worst teams in the league.
Then you had the game, the divisional game, the rematch

(01:12:25):
they played Buffalo before that, Carolina, Pittsburgh, Miami, and Las Vegas.
There's hardly a winning record in the bunch of them.
You know, they've had an incredibly soft schedule, so it
makes it really hard to judge them. Are they really
an eleven and two team, or if they had, you know,
a Detroit game in there, or a Rams game in there,

(01:12:47):
a Packers game in there, a few of those other
games where they have a more realistic record. On the
other hand, it seems as the Buffalo plays a good
team every single week, and I think that's why they're favored.
Buffalo's schedule has been very tough. New England's is soft.
Then you got the great quarterback matchup. I mean, some
people think Drake May is going to be the MVP.
Others think that Josh Allen's playing at an MVP level

(01:13:09):
and carrying a team with a bad defense. It's just,
I think a curious game. But I think right now
Buffalo is still the better team than that's notwithstanding, I
wouldn't disagree.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
I mean, you mentioned those teams.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Mark.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
The combined record of the teams New England has played
this year is sixty nine and one o three. They've
played three team besides Buffalo. They played three teams that
are currently five hundred or better, Carolina, Pittsburgh, and Tampa Bay.
They're all seven and six and neither of them are now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
And those are just those are barely about five hundred teams.
But that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
Yeah, yeah, so very interesting game. I guess there's a
reason Buffalo's favored in this game. Huge game for both. Yeah,
it'll be it'll be fun to watch that game for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
Okay, that's our preview of the football this weekend. Time
for some point spread picks. And before we do that,
we'll recap went on last week. And I'm happy to
do that because I finally won a game. I took
the Jaguars there one and a half point underdogs against
the Colts. They won easily. No way of knowing if
they would have won easily. Hit Daniel Jones not been
hurt for Indianapolis, but they did smoke them. Mike took

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the over in the Seahawks Falcons game. That game went
over the total and Paul lost by half a point.
I'm glad he was by half a point because I
think every Bear fan in America bet on the Bears
and they all lost. The Packers were favored by six
and a half over Chicago and Green Bay one by seven,
and I'm sure as Mike and bouch the whole thing
with point spreads under the total of seven. You can

(01:14:38):
have an extremely close game, and if a team wins
by the one score and that score is a touchdown,
they can cover what seems to be a pretty fat spread.
And Paul ended up losing that way. So those are
the picks that we had last week. Nobody has a
particularly good record here. I'm still okay. I'm at seven

(01:14:58):
seven and one, which is good for place. We're all
going to finish strongly here in time to get some
picks for this weekend. Paul, you get to go first.
By the way, I should mention to the audience that
the college bowl games start, and there are college games
early next week, so for the purposes of this contest,
any of the games through Tuesday night in college football,
or of course the regular NFL slate would be available

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to be picked. Paul said he was going to take
the Patriots or the Bengals. Both are intriguing. I would
have agreed with both of those picks. That's one of
the games I thought about bringing up to Mike. I
think I do not understand why, but I know that
Baltimore has a much better record than Cincinnati, but I

(01:15:41):
think Cincinnati is better. That they both have terrible defenses,
Cincinnati has a better offense. By the way, everybody in
the world is saying take the over in that game,
and maybe that'll be Mike's pick. But I get just
a little bit of concern at this time of the
year about whole cold it's going to be. And I
didn't even check in that, but that just seemed too
obvious anyway, you were going to do that, you were
going to do that, But apparently you're not going to

(01:16:02):
do either of those things. So what are you going
to do? He wants to line of the Dolphins Steeler game. Yeah,
that game is in Pittsburgh. The Steelers are favored by three.
Miami is one of the hottest teams in the I
thought Miami's coach was going to be fired, and right

(01:16:24):
as the axe is gonna come down, they've done nothing
but win Pittsburgh. In the meantime, they're winning ugly. I
mean toy win an ugly. Has Aaron Rodgers ever been
uglier at any stage of his life than he is
right now? He's the ugliest man in football. He's beard
is like he looks like one of those pirates on

(01:16:44):
a ship in the Caribbean that's been you know, stealing
gold for sixty years. Yeah, that's right. Philip Prevers came
out of every time he retired before COVID was around.
And I mean, and then he's got to play Indianapolis
is like they're an underdog by like eighteen thousand points
this weekend. Anyway, the Steelers and the Dolphins, that's a

(01:17:06):
tough game for me. I have no every now and
then when Miami has to play in cold weather, they quit,
but not always. There have been times in which the
Dolphins came into cold weather and played a really good game.
I think you know, over the course of the year,
Pittsburgh has been better. Right now, I think Miami's better.

(01:17:27):
It sounds like you're leading to Pittsburgh. Yeah, Paul says
they need that division that they're in. It's one of
those divisions where some rotten team is going to win.
When you have four teams and they all stink, one
of them is going to have the better record. And

(01:17:48):
there's two divisions like that in the NFL, and one
of them is the AFC North, where the Bengals have
started to play better, but the record is just terrible.
Eveland can't win at all. The Ravens are all messed up,
and then there's Pittsburgh. Somebody's gonna win. You're right, they
need to win. The Dolphins still have some slim, minuscule

(01:18:13):
wild card hope, but they're stuck in the AFC East,
which has bought New England with such the strong record
and Buffalo both in there, so they their playoff chances
would be less. But they're playing pretty well, and I'll admit,
I mean follow them a little closely, and I just
did not see this turnaround coming. Paul takes the Steelers. Mike,

(01:18:34):
what do you think about that game? It's an interesting
game and it is, as Paul said the Monday night game.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
Yeah, and he talked about the AFC North. The other
bad division is the NFC South with Tampa Bay and Carolina, Atlanta,
New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Yeah, I mean, somebody's gonna win that division.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
Those two divisions.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
I mean, how about the NFC East, I mean Philadelphia seen,
I can't remember the last time Philadelphia won a game.
You got the Cowboys that are still completely in it.
I mean, I love the game. This weekend, the Giants
are playing the Commanders. Combined, they have five wins. I
think the Commanders might have one of the biggest one

(01:19:16):
season collapses of all time. People forget the Commanders were
in the NFC Championship game last year, in the NFC
Championship game, and they're going to compete for the first
pick in the draft this year. Anyway, that's that's the East.
I mean, you've got you know, three or four strong divisions,
three that are stink bumps. Anyway, going back to what

(01:19:37):
Mike was saying.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
Yeah, the AFC North, the and the NFC South. Every
team has a negative point differential in all those divisions,
so they've all been outscored on the season. The one
thing that can two things concerned me about the Dolphins
in this game. You talked about cold weather. I don't
have it in front of me, but they're bad in
cold weather. A lot of times. It's supposed to be
ten degrees on Monday night in Pittsburgh, so going to

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be cold. The other thing, just quickly, Miami's on a
nice streak. But the teams they've beaten, Atlanta, Washington, New Orleans,
the Jets bad teams. The one good team they beat
with Buffalo, and Buffalo is coming off Kansas City wins,
so that was a bad spot for them. Tough game,
Pittsburgh's all over the board. I don't trust him as
a big favorite. That's a that's a really tough game,

(01:20:20):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Yeah. I mean, the more I think about it, the
more I agree with Paul's pick. It's just it's three
is on.

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
The service that we use, and three is better than
three and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
It is. It's way better than three and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
End. We'll see a lot of spots.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
Time do Yeah. In fact, the line that we have
from scores and Odds says you have to lay one
twenty to get three, but they use the number three
anyway time to get a pick from Mike, college or pro.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
I'm gonna go to college act. So let's go the
next Tuesday night bowl game Jacksonville State and Troy. It's
next Tuesday night. It's the only bowl game I think
that day.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Jacksonville State and Troy play the salute to Veterans ball.
Maybe Mike knows where that is, but I don't know.
Do you do you know where that game is played.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
It's in Montgomery, Alabama. And those two teams are both Alabama.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
Yeah, they are Troy crom Alabama. And people think Jacksonville
is from Jacksonville Florida. That's actually in Alabama, so it's
two Alabama teams playing in Alabama. Troy is favored by
three points Jacksonville State. Why I mix up those leagues.
Troy comes out of I believe the Sun Belt, and

(01:21:31):
I think Jacksonville State's in Conference USA. But I might
be wrong. Michael, correct me.

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
Yep, that's correct. Okay, I'm gonna use Jacksonville State in
that game.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Yeah, they've turned out to be you know, their coach,
Rich Rodriguez, who turned them around, went back to West
Virginia where he started, and I really thought there'd be
a drop off, a lot of players transferred and so on.
They've been very good this year. And I think you
might be right about this. I want to hear your
reasons because I'm agreeing with you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
Yeah, I think there's a better team. First of all,
they're getting points. One thing that we like looking for
in an underdog, especially if we think the underdog can
dominate the trenches and win the ground game. We really
like looking at that situation. In fact, if an underdog,
and this is after the fact, I mean you're guessing
in advance, but if an underdog can rush double the

(01:22:26):
favorite more than double. Their yardage on the ground is
like eighty percent against the spread. This has a very
good chance to do that. You've got the fifth best
rushing team in the entire country. Jacksonville State averages two
hundred and fifty eight yards per game rushing. They have
two one thousand yard rushers at running back. You've got
a Troy defense that ranks outside the top one hundred

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at stopping the run. And Troy can't run the ball.
They run for less than one hundred yards per game.
They rank one hundred and thirtieth rushing the ball. So
we're gonna have a big advantage in the trenches in
this game. And I think Troy is a little bit
of a far for lack of a better term. They
were in the Sun Belt Championship last weekend. They were
eight and five. This year, they got out gained by

(01:23:08):
seventy yards per game in the Sun Belt alone, and
in seven or last eight games they've been out gained.
Yet they're eight and five. I think Jacksonville is the
better team. I think they control the ground game. I
think they win the game, and I'm get three points.
I'll take them.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
One of the teams with things that happens with some
of these lower schools in the lower conferences is the
players who played really good are looking to transfer. Have
you heard that any of the guys for either team
have hit the transfer portal? That will not play in
the game. It's such an early game in the ball
season that even a player who may want a trancer
might not announce it until after the game is played.

(01:23:43):
But I'm sure you're on top of that because there's
just so much stuff that's going on that's screwing up
everything at the end of the season in college football.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
But yeah, no big transfers in this game. Troy has
a couple of players they're starting. Running back, who's the
only guy that's had more than like three hundred and
twenty yards this year is out. He's transferring for sure.
He's not playing for a team that already can't run
the ball and their quarterback got hurt in the last
game Troy against James Madison. He's questionable. But as far
as transfers other than the running back for Troy, really

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nothing major there in that one.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
Okay, my pick's going to be in the NFL. And
like I said, it just seems to me that the
only thing that bothered me about Cincinnati upsetting the Ravens,
and I think they will. Joe Burrow gave a weird
press conference this week. I mean it's all over social media.
I mean, the guy sounded like he's in depression and

(01:24:37):
he wants to retire from football, which is just bizarre
because he ever since he came back from this injury,
he has been spectaca that Cincinnati offense could not move
the ball at all before he came back, and now
they're putting up thirty and forty points. I didn't like
the vibe from that is too. You know, they had
come from behind loss from last week and all of that.
There's a game that I'm going to go to that

(01:24:58):
just jumping out of me. I think Dallas might have
the best offense in the NFL, and they're playing at
a rapid pace. They have great receivers. Dak Prescott's playing
good at quarterback. Of course, the problem is their defense.
They're playing the Vikings. Dallas is favored by five and
a half. Now, Minnesota is coming off of a thirty

(01:25:19):
one to nothing shutout win. I don't trust that win.
JJ McCarthy threw for three touchdown passes, but he only
threw twenty three times. He was sixteen to twenty three.
They didn't have a lot of yardage pass Their defense
just played very very well. I think that confronted with
the high what's the term, they won a lot of plays,

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and they won a lot of no huddle, and they
play at high pace, the high pace of Dallas just relentless.
If the Cowboys get on the board a few times,
I just don't think, even with Dallas's poor defense, that
Minnesota can keep up. I think the Cowboys are a
better team. I don't rule out them catching Philadelphia because
Philadelphia just looks kind of ugly and weird to me

(01:26:04):
at the moment. So I'm going to take the Cowboys
to cover the five and a half. If you throw
out this thirty one to nothing win that Minnesota had
last week against a terrible opponent. They've been playing just awful.
So I'm going to take the Cowboys to win by
six or more. Any thoughts on that game.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
Mike, Yeah, I'd say anything under seven. I agree with you.
You get the Cowboys coming off a loss, plus it
was on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
They Oh I should mention they played Detroit dead even
they lost by fourteen points, but they were minus three
in turnovers, and I usually think a turnover counts for
one score. The Cowboys lost by two scores, but they
were minus three on turnovers. The yardage and everything else
was equal. And you know they're playing Detroit, two high

(01:26:46):
powered offenses. I thought they played them other than the
turnovers of that game dead even that was an impressive game,
whereas I'm kind of discounting the Vikings thirty one and
nothing win as being mostly playing a bad team and
a little bit flukish otherwise. Anyway, go ahead, mind.

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
Yeah, in the same situation that you just said for
the Vikings, I mean, they only had barely three hundred yards,
but Washington had three turnovers to the Vikings ed zero,
So that kind of equates the same way on that end.
Before that, Minnesota wasn't scoring anything. Lee and I talked
before I came on about this game, and I'm like,
Minnesota is going to have to score to keep up,
and I don't know if they can score.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Even against Dallas, even against Dallas's defense. I agree with
you on that end. Yeah, the Cowboys are weird. They're
not as good at home as you would think that
they would be. Historically, but I think in this case
the home field is going to be something of an
advantage for them, and they're in a situation in which
Minnesota had nothing to play for, they can't get themselves
at anything, and Dallas is still and so I like

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the Cowboys in that game. Okay, Quickly recapping the picks.
Paul takes the Steelers on Monday Night to beat the
Dolphins by more than three. Mike takes Jacksonville State to
either beat Troy or lose by less than three, and
I'm taking Dallas to beat the Vikings by six or more.
Next podcast is next week, Talk to you Them.

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