President Trump targets Venezuela and fentanyl as he looks out for regular Americans. In the meantime, Trump's chief of staff evidently regrets spilling her guts to Vanity Fair. A fellow judge testifies she was shocked Hannah Dugan aided the attempted escape of a defendant who was the subject of an ICE warrant. And, as the FBI foils a planned Christmas attack in Los Angeles it is becoming more apparent Christian and Jews are now being targeted for killing all over the world.
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I don't know if Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan
is going to be convicted of federal felonies. Are not.
I can tell you, however, and we're at the stage
of the trial the prosecution is widening up its case,
then the defense has its opportunity closing arguments and all
of that. I can tell you that the case that
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the federal prosecutors are putting on so far is I
think rather strong. Now understand that just about everybody who's
going to testify in this case is a lefty. Almost
all the Milwaukee County judges are liberal. The judge that
Hannah Dugan and Carder in the hallway is a fellow liberal.
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Everybody involved here is a leftist. But in terms of
the testimony, some of the testimony that is coming from
others in the courthouse system I think is damning. I'm
going to read a quote and then we're going to
expand on this judge severa was the judge that Dugan
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encountered in the hallway on that faithful morning in which
ICE agents showed up with an arrest warrant for a
suspect that was to appear in Dugan's court. I want
to read the quote this is on the witness stand
from Judge Severa. I was shocked. Quote judges should not
be helping defendants evade arrest. So the jury heard that.
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That's a pretty strong statement, and it comes to someone
who has the credibility of being the exact same thing
that Hannah Dugan is. A fellow Milwaukee County Circuit judge,
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an option. For those of you who haven't followed the background,
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ICE agents showed up and they had a war and
four Eduardo Flores Ruiz who, in addition to being an
illegal immigrant, was also accused of violent crime in Judge
Hannah Dugan's court, and Dugan sent the ice agents off
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on a wild goose chase, sending them down to the
office of the Chief Judge in Milwaukee, Cottie Karl Ashley,
and during the time that they were gone, she spirited
this defendant floresa Ree's away and hit him in a room.
Rather than let this slide, the Department of Justices bringing
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criminal charges. Both Tom Holman and the Attorney General Pam
Bondi have said that public officials who assistant assist illegal
immigrants in avoiding being detained are going to be prosecuted.
It's crime. It's a crime, just as much as if
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a regular old person me tries to hide somebody who's
wanted for a murder or something, or it's an obstruction,
you can't do it. In this case, she was a
judge and she was being presented with a warrant. Judges
issue warrens themselves. She's confronted with a ward and rather
than onto the warrant, she actively, according to the allegation
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and according to all the evidence presented, she actively thwarted
the warrant. Now, this isn't what happened, but it would
have been interesting if she simply chose not to cooperate.
In other words, I'm not going to tell you anything,
but allowed them to go find the guy and grab
them up. But she didn't do that. She took the
added step of diverting them, shuttling them off to another
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office while she hit him. As it turns out, Flores
Maries was arrested anyway, meaning what Dugan did didn't do
any good. Now, I think that there are going to
be some wagon. This might be part of the defense
that this is a case of no harm, no follow
given the fact that the person was ending up in
custody anyway. I want to quote though, and I've got
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news that counts of FOXYX and JS online here. On
Tuesday of this week, the sixteenth, Christella Severa testified, as
I said, she's the fellow of Milwaukee County Circuit Judge.
Milwaukee County judge testified that she was summoned from the
bench by Judge Hannah Dugan and told to keep on
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her robes so they could confront federal immigration agents in
the hallway. Right, let's pause here. There is a component
of this that's very interesting and isment brought up in
a robe. Most judges only wear their robes in the courtroom.
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Why would Dugan specifically have told Servera to keep her
rob on when she went out into the hallway. And again,
this is what Servera is testifying. She has no particular
reason to lie under oaths. She's a judge. She could
lose her career. She testified the Dugan told her to
keep her roban. In my opinion, the only reason that
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you would tell her to keep her robin and then
go on the whole all the way in do this
and run this misdirection is she wanted the Ice agents
to see that this was a judge that was out
there giving them a statement. If Christella Severa just goes
out in her street class, take sir Robot and goes
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out there, they aren't going to know her for her ad.
But she's got the judicial robot and Dugan told her
to keep the robot, and that's what she testified. Continuing
the testimony from Judge Christeller, Servera came in December sixteenth,
the same day as federal agents testified that Dugan was
direct and angry as she ordered them to go to
the Chief Judge's office as they were waiting to arrest
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Eduardoflores Ruiz, an undocumented immigrant. That's the term the jess
online users outside her courtroom. The events of April eighteenth
thrust the sixty six year old Dugan into the center
of a clash between the judiciary and the Trump administration
over its crack down an illegal immigration. Severa testified, now again,
this is the other judge that she hesitated to enter
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the public hallway and confront federal immigration agents with Dugan.
So here's Severa. She's being told this by Dugan. And again,
Dugan's not her boss, she's a fellow judge. But Dugan's
been a round blogger, Dugan's been on the bench longer.
So you've got a fellow judge telling her to do this.
And Severa doesn't really know what's going on. She hesitated
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so she can she's already sensing this isn't good. Continuing,
Severa said, she and other judges don't wear their robes
in the hallway, as the robe conveys authority. Now that's interesting.
I don't know what the case is. In all the
other counties in the state of Wisconsin, it would seem
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to me that a lot of times a judge does
walk down the hallway with the robe on. What if
you're just going from one room to another, do you
want to take the whole thing of But Severa said
that the normal custom in Milwaukee County, and again there's
fifty branch over fifty branches in Milwaukee County Circre courps
zillion judge is to not have your robes on when
you're in the hallway, because you only are functioning as
a judge when you're in the courtroom, not in the hallway.
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So Severa said, normally you don't wear your robes in
the hallway. She said, quote, I didn't want to walk
in the hallway with my robot. Once in the hallway,
Severa said, the federal agent whom Dugan questioned was respectful. No. Again,
I think this is key. So the ICE agent, according
to Judge Severa, was respectful in asking this question. Severa
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said Dugan was getting worked out. So the person who's
getting all hacked office Hannah Dugan. According to Judge Severa's testimony,
this is one of those inconvenient truths for the people
who want to claim that Ice is this bunch of monsters.
The ICE agents are very polite during the core. They
probably never anticipated that you'd have a judge that would
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obstruck them. But Judge Severa said Dugan was fried, She's frost,
He's hacked off. Here's Ice of the ward. It just
strikes me as the same attitude of irrationality that you're
seeing from so many people that left the very existence
of ICE, that somehow ICE doing its job, an ICE,
a law enforcement agency and forcing its warrants, is in
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some sort of class that is to be not only
disrespected but obstructed. Now we've had some people arguab well,
I shouldn't be in the courthouse now, I'll get back
to the testimony in it. I shouldn't be in the cordos.
One of the types of people that you see in
the cordos all the time are cops. The cordos is
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crawling with police officers and sheriff's deputies. In Milwaukee County,
all of the bailiffs are sheriff's deputies. It's part of
their job. In addition to that, those that are being
brought from the jail to a courtroom are accompanied by
a jailer. In addition to that who testifies the criminal cases.
Lots of cops. You have police officers in Milwaukee West
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Allison's the one wandering through the courthouse, law enforcement entities,
law enforcement officials. These are precisely other people that you
would see in the courthouse all the time. From the
perspective of Ice, all right, Ice is looking for somebody.
Let's imagine your Ice. Do you want to be iceis
should ib Ice? You'll be Ice? All right? Your Ice?
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You're looking for this guy. You find out he's got
a court date on April eighteenth, rather than knock on
every door on the south side of Milwaukee, wouldn't it
make sense to you to show up at April late
tenth the court. That's where you know he's going to be.
And the attitude of Dugan in some of these is
somehow this is supposed to be a safe sewing. Why
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is the court a safe sewing. Furthermore, you know why
he was in the court because he's facing criminal charges
on another case. If the hacks out in Providence, Rhode
Island get their act together and they identify the Brown
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University killer and find out that he's got a divorce
hearing this afternoon, I would hope they shop in the
car that arrest him. Getting back to the testimony of
Judge Severa, referring to Dugan, her irritation seemed to progress
to anger. Severa testified, I thought she could have been
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a little more diplomatic. Severa testified that she led the
agents to the office of Chief Judge Carl Atshley's office
as Dugan directed, but Severa said she was surprised when
Dugan disappeared. So now Severa is Dugan take her to
the Chief Judge's office, and Severa's assuming that they're going
to the Chief Judge's office to have the Chief Judge
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okay that this is what's going on. But instead when
they head on down there, Dugan bails nowhere to be found.
So Judge Severa I think clearly was angered at this.
She was set up and never expected that a fellow
judge would ask her to be part of a wild
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goose chase. She was shocked at she disagreet court. I
was amazed, I thought she left me, Severa testified, adding
she also was miffed because she wanted to get to
her busy call. And remember Severa's in court too. She
was hauled out of court by Dougan telling her to
come over there, and now she's doing all of this,
trying to help Hannah Dugan obstruct the arrest of a
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guy that's in her court. Severa's got all of her
stuff to do, so Severa probably could have told Dugan
to just blow But you've got a judge saying I
need your help and something that she kep about to
help her, and she's being set up. And this is
all being testified to by Severa. In front of the
jury hearing the Dugan case, Severa was asked what she
thought when she learned the FBI was investigating Dugan for
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allegedly trying to help floresa Rees elude arrest. Shocked, Severa
said judges should not be helping defendants evade arrest. Well,
I think that should be standd as a given, and
that's what this case is all about. Hannah Dugan is
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a judge who was helping a defendant evade arrest. There
are any number of law enforcement authorities in the United
States of America, and all of them have arrested authority
in this case, it was Ice, It could have been
the FBI, It could have been the United States marshals.
It could have been the Milwaukee County Sheriff. Maybe it
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could have been Milwaukee Police. Maybe it could have been
cut a Hey police. It could have been the Wisconsin
Department of Justice, could have been the state po Polise police.
Any number of law enforcement agencies may be coming out
to go after somebody that is a suspect in violating
the law. So Judge Severa's statement judges should not be
helping defendants evade arrest. Severa added she later became worried. Quote,
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I was mortified. I thought that someone may think that
I was part of some of what happened. So now,
Judge Savers sega, I don't want anybody to think that
I was in on this with Dugan, because obviously Severa
knew this is raw, all right? The dream team Hannah
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Dugan has eighteen five hundred criminal defense attorneys. I exaggerate.
Do you have to explain that that's an exaggeration. No,
numerous local attorneys defending her. Steve Biscoopik, former United States
attorney who's now gone off to the dark side. He
does criminal defense tastes like this white colored crime. He
cross examines Judge Severa under cross examination Severa admitted she
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texted her sister, an attorney the federal immigration agents were
at the courthouse shortly after she returned to her courtroom.
You told her that Ice was in the buildings and
Steve Biscoopik, one of Dugan's attorneys. That's fair, Severa said,
warn her Buscoopias, Yeah, sure. The judge testified. Asked about
the text again later, Severa said, quote, it was more
about what was happening in our country at the time
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that Ice was doing sweeping arrest. Now, I think rather
than this being a statement that defeats the credibility of Severa,
it strength strengthens it. In other words, I think Judge
Severa is one of those that doesn't like all this
stuff that I s is doing. That's what she texted
her sister, Hey, Ice is running around to the building.
But even though she may not be a fan of
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what Ice was doing, she knows you've got to follow
the law and you can't defy a warred Now, as
I said, that testimony came out on Tuesday. We're doing
the podcast here on Wednesday, and I realized some people
are listening after the facts, so some of the information
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you're here will be dating if you listen. Long after
we released this, the Chief Judge, Carl Ashley testified on Wednesday.
I'll quote from Fox six on this. Ashley said it
was his understanding after speaking to an ICE agent, that
the arrest would take place in the public hallway. So
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Judge Ashley talked to Ice. Remember Ice was sent down
the hallway by Dugan to total the Chief Judge and
the Chief Judge talked to Ice and I and the
Chief Judge was on the understanding, Okay, Ice is going
to go back and in the hallway. They're going to
arrest the guy. In other words, not bust into a
courtroom and do it, but arrest him in the hallway.
So actually is of the opinion, Okay, they're gonna go
this is all fine. They're going to go into the
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hallway and they're going to arrest the guy. The Chief
Judge said that he spoke to a courthouse safety supervisor
who informed him that the arrest did not take place
as he anticipated. And the reason it didn't take place
is because the guy has suddenly nowhere to be found
because Hannah Dugan was hid. Again. Ashley said he then
texted Dugan a few times asking her to call him.
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This is a chief judge. The chief judge has sort
of authority over the other judges, and that there are
the administered supervisor. But the judges work for themselves. They're
all elected individually. So now here this is going on.
Ice comes down to Ashley's office, They go back and
the suspect is nowhere to be found. So she's so
the Chief Judge, Askeley is texting Hannahdugain, text again, Hannah,
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what's God, asking her to call him, and he received
her response hours later. Now, if you're hand A Dugan
and the Chief Judge's texting you asking you what's going on,
why wouldn't you immediately respond? He ultimately decided to table
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any conversation because he was concerned about what might have happened. Then,
Ashley said, he sent an email on the afternoon of
April eighteenth. Again this happened in the morning of April eighteenth,
notifying colleagues that Ice had conducted a courthouse arrest. He
detailed what took place and noted ICE's actions were consistent
with his draft policy. In other words, the Chief Judge
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had put out a policy in anticipation that this might happen.
In advance of all of this. The Chief Judge had
a policy. Then he said everything that Ice did was
according to the policy that I said. The only person
who wasn't following any policy was Hannah Dogan, who, acting
on our own, is out there trying to get this
guy free. Here's what I think. I think it's possible
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she's going to get off. And here's why we have
in this country right now an insane irrationality about Ice.
This is beyond defund the police and the people who
don't like cops. Ice has been put into some just
other category. And every Democrat in this country has had
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it drilled into their heads that Ice is terrible. Ice
is a legitimate, and anybody who dislikes Trump and dislikes
Ice may simply we're gonna let this woman skate. Now.
I don't know that that's who's on the jury. I
don't know the political leanings who's on the jury. I
do know this. Generally, defense attorneys are better when it
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comes to jury selection than prosecutors, in large part because
defense attorneys usually make more money. Not always, Sometimes you
know the public defenders are overworked, or they don't get
paid a ton of money. Sometimes you'll have a big
shot prosecutor who's really good. Can you think of a
case in which the prosecutor actually was way better than
the defense attorney. No. I can remember when Daryl Brooks
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defended himself and Sue Opper was he Sue Opper was there,
and the two assistants whether one of them's now with Judge,
the others now the DA, and she's the DA. And
yet Daryl Brooks himself, but he will see functioned as
his attorney representati himself. More often it's what's her name?
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Against the dream Team Johnny Cochran and f Lee, Bailey
and Shapiro. What is her name? Marcia Clark? And again
that's not even a knock on Marcia Clark. You know,
in many cases the prosecutors are pretty good, and some
make a decent chunk of money. They're well into the
six figures and so on. But in the case you're
of Dougah, she's got all these defense attorneys that are y'
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all lefties. They want to rally to a defense. They're
probably being paid off by these people that have raised
money for her defense fund and so on. On the
other hand, the United States Attorney's Office, the Federal prosecutors.
That's a high standard prosecutor. Those are rather prestigious jobs.
The point I was making though, on the jury selection.
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You know, the defense often will hire consultants, I forget
what they call them, but you know, you question all
these jurors and they ask questions, and you can strike
defense jurors that you don't want. I don't want this one,
I don't want that one, I don't want the other one.
And sometimes jury selection takes forever. And my guess is
that the defense was looking for a lot of anti
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Trump jurors. I don't know that the prosecution was weeding
out lefties. But that scenario, just nullification by the jury,
that no matter whether she's guilty or not, they just
don't want to convict her, is the only scenario I
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see her skating off on that. But that scenario that
I mentioned, they're just going to nullify. It's a very
real and strong and maybe even likely possibility. I want
to turn my attention to the interview given by Susie Wiles,
Trump's chief of staff, to Vanity Fair magazine. Apparently, over
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the past year, Susie Wiles has had eleven conversations with
the reporter Chris Whipple. So this wasn't just one big interview,
but she had an arrangement that she would talk to
her talk to him from time to time, and apparently
after a year he would do a piece describing the
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insides of the Trump administration. Susie Wiles is contending that
out of these lengthy conversations, hours and hours and hours,
they have pulled out select quotes out of context. In
other words, she may have gone The most obvious example
of this is Trump has the personality of a recovering alcoholic.
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Everybody's jumped at that, and vanity fairs publicists that you know,
talk before the article comes out. They've put that out
and they sent that out in the press release on
the material. If you read the full quote that she gave,
it was complimentary. First of all, Susie Wiles is the
daughter of Pat Sommrow, the x NFL player who is
known to have been drunk during his broadcast. He and
Tom Brookshire did the games and they were those guys
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that kind of there are just some guys that can
drink when they're doing their job, and you didn't really notice,
I don't see you just don't see those people anymore.
Do you. No, I mean I see people that are drunk.
They look drunk, but back in the day, I you know,
mad men and all of that stuff. Anyway, Pat Summer
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all eventually went into rehab and kicked his alcoholism. And
the point that Susie wils was making is is that
people that have overcome alcoholism. In other words, she didn't
say alcoholicity recovering alcoholics personality. These are people that have
found strength within themselves and they I kicked this, I
can do anything. And that's what the twelve step programs
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tell you. You certainly are a slave to this disease, but
you can overcome it. That was the point that she
was making. Trump himself is famously somebody who's never had
a drink. The point that she was making is that
he has the personality of somebody who feels as though
he cand of acomplish anything. So there's certainly some truth
to this notion that they took a statement here and
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pull it out of context for the purposes of getting
a big time headline. But it does beg the larger
question of why she agreed to it. No, I know
this Trump's administration has been unbelievably transparent. You ask Caroline
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Love at the White House Press Secretary of question. She'll
answer everything. She may fire back, but she'll answer everything.
Trump himself holds news conferences all the time. Administration officials
are always available for interviews. Trump's done just a zillion interviews.
Other people in the administration talk all the time. Trump
sometimes allows the cameras to come into cabinet meetings. I
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think that they have been of the opinion after the
secrecy of Biden, Trump's people that failed, we have nothing
to hide. These are the things that we are going
to do, the things that we're gonna believe in, and
we'll let people see it. However, for those of you
not are you familiar with Vanity Fair?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
No?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Well, are you familiar on you? Nobody? You don't know
anything about it. Vanity Fair all magazines are shriveling into
nothingness and it become the website is where everything is.
Vanity Fair, however, still publishes a magazine. It isn't one
a month anymore, but it was the magazine four. It
was the magazine in the eighties, nineties and the zeros
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before the Internet took over. It zillions of pages, tons
of ads, and the fashion houses and so on, and
it's this combination of they usually put a celebrity and
they do a big celebrity profile and they put the
celebrity on the cover and so on, and then two
or three, you know, real crime, investigative pieces, a political piece.
And they've had really really good writers. But forever and
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ever and ever, it's been lefty for the long time.
Their editor was Graydon Carter. He was the editor, like
during the Bush era, he couldn't stand Bush. Every month
he did his column and it was just an attack
on Bush. So then it affairs and left his center
forever and ever. Things have changed a little bit now
in that they do most of their stuff on the
website because magazines, as I said, are dying. They've gone
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through a couple of editors, but it's always been a
publication that's had a lefty slant always. So if Susie
Wilds is going to grant an interview to someone over
in the course of a year, why did she pick them? Now?
I think part of this is there is Trump has
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some flaws, and I think almost every Donald Trump supporter
knows he has flaws. One of his flaws is and
in almost all politicians are narcissists. You have to be
a narcissist to be compresident United States. You have to
hit somebody that's an incredibly high opinion of yourself to
say I can run the free world. And Trump certainly
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has this, and he's had this for the longest time.
I think Trump has a need for people who dislike
him to like him. The fact that he wants to
win the Nobel Peace Prize. He's not gonna win that.
They're not gonna give him the Nobel Trump could return
the world to where it was before Adam and Eve
bit the apple in the Garden of Aden, and they
would not give him the word the Nobel Peace Prize.
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They can't stand him. So Trump is looking, i think,
for the approval of people who will simply never approve
of him. And this translates down to Susie Wilds. My
guess is it's not been stated. My guess is that
Trump greenlighted her doing this, figuring we're just gonna be
transparent about it, and maybe Vanity fair will give us
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a fair shake because we're giving them an inside look
at what's going on to the administration, They're gonna have
a fair number of scoops that are gonna come out
of this and it's not gonna be a hit. I'm
thinking that's what their thought process is, which, of course
is wraw. I can relate to this. I think this
was Susie Wils's Meg Kissinger moment. She want me to
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tell my Meg Kissinger story again for the ninety seven
thousandth time. Meg Kissinger was a gossip columnist for the
newspaper and for some reason hit an obsession with me.
She hated me. I think she had an obsession with
me because I blew the whistle on the fact that
she was a paid contributor to the Wrightman and Miller
radio show. But then when news use her newspaper column
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to like every week put in something that the wackies
eighty Wrightman and Miller said, I thought unbelievable. Come she's
being paid to be a contributor on the show and
then she's putting in her piece puff stuff about Oh.
I put the whistle on that. This is back in
the nineties when I first got here, and I was like,
this is the beginning of my exposing all the craft
that's going on in the media. Well, she didn't like
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the fact that I blew the whistle on this unethical
relationship that she had. All Right, several years past, Meg
Kissinger contacts me and said, I want to do a
lengthy profile on you. Not a gossip column piece, but
a long story that would appear. I think it was
a Sunday pa whatever. This is when the paper still
had long stories and the paper was still think this is.
It's so far back, it's before the Internet killed newspapers.
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And my thought process is it would be so predictable
for her to just do a hatchet job, because everybody
knows that she can't stand me, that she's actually here
going to kind of go against type and do something fair.
What an idiot you say. It's about the dumbest thing
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I've done since I've been a talk show. My thought
that med Kissinger is going to do well. She does
this piece and it was just a hatchet job. It
starts with if we met at Miss Katie's Diner, which
by the way is still aroud Snare Market. It's at
nineteenth in Clybourne. I think we met there, so she
writes in the thing, I walked up to Miss Katie's
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Diner and I saw it and truck the exterminator she said, Okay,
I guess I know he's already here. That's how it started,
and it went down from there, and everything that I
said was just it was just a rap. Carve me up, said,
I get for being dumb enough to think that she
was going to give me a fair shake. And that's
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what I think happened to Susie Wiles. She was dumb
enough to think that she was going to get a
fair shake, so she ended up making you know, these
are eleven conversations over the course of the year, might
get his hours and hours and hours and hours and
ours probably lots of stuff that was praise worthy about
things going on to the administration and so on, and
that reporter carved out and pulled out everything that she
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said that might be inflammatory and put nothing else in
the story. Having said that there were some revelations that,
when you get past the salacious little buzzword, that I
thought were fairly interesting, she talked about the Jeffrey Epstein
case and said, yeah, Trump's name is in the files.
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She also said there is nothing in the files that
suggested that Donald Trump ever acted inappropriately at all at
any time that he was in the company of Jeffrey Epstein,
So that's in there in addition to that, Well, you
photocopied this in a I probably it's just you got
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jump pages that I gotta like flip over and do
this to read my thing in and it is the
way it is. You needed a larger paper or a
smaller things and a larger font, et cetera. Comment and
Elon Musk, well, he us his drugs and he's kind
of unusual. When he was running DOGE, he would sleep
in a sleeping bag in the executive office building. And
(31:50):
then she said, well, he's obviously very, very weird, but
that's how all geniuses are. In other words, you could
pull that out and say everybody knows his drugs. He
was on Joe Rogan show, smoke a pot right there
in front of all of us. But her overall comment
was he was really obsessed with doing a good job.
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And to the point that here is Elon Musk. He's
worth I think the latest estimate is now six hundred
and seventy five billion dollars. He's pushing toward a trillion.
They're now valuing SpaceX really highly, so that's adding to it. Anyway,
he can sleep anywhere he wants, but he was committed
enough to this that he's dragging in a sleeping bag
hanging around in there. It goes into a number of
(32:33):
other things and mentions that there was controversy within the
administration itself on tariffs. There's nothing wrong with that. Of course,
there were people advised this on the tariff, advised that
on the tariff. When you have an administration, you're gonna
have people who have differing viewpoints on various issues on
the president's sides. She also said that there was I
think the most damning thing in the piece. Megan Kelly
(32:54):
made the same comment was when she said that Letitia
James prosecution was clearly payback. Well, she said that she
probably said this in an overall discussion of all of
the people that are being prosecuted for misconduct during the
time that Biden was in place, and they pull out
the one where he's, oh, it's probably pay back, and
she said that we had an agreement that the first
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ninety days he could go and seek retribution, that he
had to stop. Trump has said that following this, she
has his full confidence. Now, why would he say this
after she gave him a after this piece came out,
and I think it's because Trump told her it's okay
to do it, and Trump said, tell her tell him everything.
We want to be transparent. And I think that Trump,
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as critical as Trump is of a fake news in
the media and so on, I think that he and
she had this notion that Vanity fair might give him
a fair shot. Here. I'll tell you this, This is
likely to be the last candid discussion that anybody in
the administration has with anybody in any type of mainstream
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media outlet. People bring in this other stuff that JD
Vans is a conspiracy theorist. JD. Vance is as sharp
on his feet as anyone as I've seen. Do you
see JD's response to this. You don't seem to have
you don't seem to be up on the news today.
Numerous things you do. Jdvisag, yes, I am a conspiracy theorist.
I'm a conspiracy theorist at all of the ones that
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turned out to me true. And JD said, I have
a great relationship with Susie Wills. We go back and
forth on this ad and the other thing. Presidents tend
to make changes at the end of the year and
are approaching the end of twenty twenty six. Some people
may stay and some people may go. I do believe
that Susie Wilds remains very, very close to the president.
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Her job, however, is one of the components of her
job is the thing that she screwed up here. Her
job is to stop anybody from embarrassing the president. She's
the gatekeeper, She's the keep people away, She's the whipcracker.
That's what the chief of staff is. If somebody else
in the administration goes and done something dumb, Trump isn't
going to be the one that gets on the blower.
She is, and she's going to read them the Riot Act.
(35:06):
In this instance, it was her, But if Trump's okay
with it, it has to be because Trump knew that
he was talking to her, and Trump empathizes with her
that they pulled out a handful of coats and put
them in a way in which they reflect badly on
Trump rather than better. Related to this, Trump's comments, the
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media is making a huge deal out of it. On
Rob Rider. Rob Ryder gets killed rob ber and his
wife gets killed by his son. Trump puts out a
comment on social media make it very clear what he
thinks of Rob Reiner, which is that he couldn't stand
Rob Rider and people are horrified by this. All right,
my take on this? Do you ever take on this?
(35:51):
You must have that you have to have a take
on something, Paul you have. Paul said he's not offended
by a considering that Ryner said about Trump. Well, I'll
get to the second part, because that is clearly what
triggered Trump. Brob Reiner came out and repeatedly said that
Trump was colluding with the Russians. Remember we now know
that Trump did. How would you like it if somebody
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who had a huge platform, and as Hollywood liberals go,
Rob Ryder had the biggest megaphone of alive, very very influential,
and he's lying and he's lying about you. However, I've
had a long standard on my own show. Here, somebody
dies that I can't stand or just dislike or disapprove of,
or clashed with, I keep my mouth shut. With the exception,
(36:36):
you know, of some world tyrant or something osamavan Laden,
of course I'm going to say that's a good thing.
But if somebody, some politician, or some developer or somebody
or another that I thought was that on the up
and up where I clashed it if they died, not
just say nothing. And that's what Trump should have done.
He should have said nothing. In fact, when Dick Cheney died,
(36:59):
Trump really didn't pop off. He didn't go to the
funeral because he wasn't invited. But there wasn't this, and
Dick Cheney was a visceral opponent of Donald Trump. I
almost think that in the case of Cheney, Trump at
(37:22):
least gave him. Okay, he's a public official and I'm
a public official and so on. But Rob Reiner's craft
was gratuitous. One of the things you're gonna get with
Trump is that he's not fake, that there's not any
bs with him. It doesn't like Rob Riders who he
said so, but obviously I think he should have just
(37:43):
kept his yaff shut and not said anything at all. However,
the reaction to this just proves again people react more
strongly to what people say than what they do. There
are people in this country angry are Trump than they are.
Reiners can't have killed his parents, that's being ignored. They're
not mad at him. He sliced and butchered his parents
(38:05):
up and you know what, but Trump said, going back
to the Hannahdukan case that we were talking about. It's
a violent guy that she was sheltering away. People aren't
bothered by that at all. They look at some of
the people that Ice are grabbing. They hate Ice more
(38:28):
than the individuals that are committing terrible Look at all
of the crimes that were committed by illegal immigrants during
the Biden era and so on. You can go through
the cases of suburban mothers and people jogging in the
woods and so on. Lefties weren't bothered by any of it.
They just bothered that Republicans would use it as a
talking point saying this person shouldn't be allowed into the country.
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But that is the world we live in. People react
more strongly to what people say than what they do.
I swear, if I want to rob somebody today, I
would be low, oh less by the lefties in the
media than if I said something that deeply offended them
on one of their issues. Oh, you shouldn't have said that.
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In the end, who cares what you say. Nonetheless, those
are the rules of the game. And Trump is pulved
by the sword and has died by the sword over them.
But no, I don't think he should have said them
to I think it's a huge deal that he said it.
It's part for the course with Trump. The other thing
is Trump doesn't have much of a filter when it
comes to these things. Famously, when he was running for
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president in twenty fifteen, remember when he RiPP mccannon said,
he's not a war hero. Why is the hero for
getting caught? A lot of people thought that would sink
his campaign. The people who supported Trump were perfectly fine
with it because they knew, Ay, that's what Trump was.
And b they think that John mccainn was a pain
in the ass. Is shot off his mouth and acted
(39:49):
superior to everybody else. Rob Reiner, though, was not as
much as he was involved in politics. He wasn't officially
a politician in the same way that cain was. You're
listening to the Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark
Belling Podcast. Now before the break, we were talking about
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kind of like the negative side of Trump. I want
to turn to a story that's in the news right
now that I think is the best of Trump. He's
on an attack. They're linked. It's two separate issues kind of,
but it's kind of the same issue and kind of separate.
(40:33):
He's on a rampage on Venezuela and on fentanyl. They
are connected. It is believed that a significant amount of
the fenenol entering the United States is coming from Venezuela
because the Venezuelans needs some way to bankroll their screwed
up communist economy. Now clearly not all of it is
coming from Venezuela, but it is related. Trump issued today
(40:59):
a statement saying that Venezuela is essentially surrounded by an armada.
I'll read the quote. This is actually from yesterday. Venezuela
is completely surrounded by the largest armada ever assembled in
the history of South America. It will only get bigger
until such time as they returned to the United States
of America all of the oil, land, and other assets
(41:20):
that they have previously stole from US. I am ordered
I have ordering a total and complete blockade of all
sanctioned oil takers going in or out of Venezuela. As
they've said, much of the drug trade, much of the
international smuggling of migrants in Central America and South America,
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is some cartills that are headquartered in Venezuela. Trump could
easily ignore the Venezuelan problem. Venezuela has been a cancer
that has affected all of us in the Western hemisphere
ever since Hugo Chavez came in and overthrew everything. They
nationalized the oil companies, stole everybody's money. He's the Fidel
Castro Venezuela. People have been terribly abused. The number you know.
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I spend a few months in South Florida. It's crawling
with Venezuelan refugees, people who have gotten out and tried
to get as much as their money as they could
before the government down there stole it. Trump doesn't have
to be messing with this, but he realizes that unlike
some countries in the world, in which the problem is
confined to that country, the Venezuelan problem is affecting people
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in the middle class in the United States, in part
because of the component of fenool, which gets me. That
brings me to the next week. Fenenol is Trump is
now describing fentanol. He has classified fentanol as a weapon
of mass destruction. There are some people who believe that
this is hyperbole. Is it what has damaged more Americans?
(42:56):
Terrorist bombs are fentanyl. I'm serious, and I'm not saying
that we have not been badly damaged by terrorists, and
I'll add in terrorist attacks, which is what I think
Brown University was. We'll find out soon enough. I think
(43:17):
that the fentanyl crisis gets yawns from the elite because
while it's certainly true that some elitists are on fenool
and every now and then you'll hear about a celebrity
that's addicted to it, it's by and large regular Americans.
Now celebrities abuse drugs like crazy, but we just have
not had a lot of cases of celebrities O ding
on fedanol. And I have a theory on this. Well, Matthew,
(43:42):
but he that was kend of it. It was, it
wasn't fedanyl. But you rarely hear of a big time
celebrity O ding on fetanyl. But on the other hand,
look at Mekwan cedar Berg New Berlin. Somebody's dropping data
fetanyl all the time. My theory is is that the
people in the elite with a lot of money are
able to have I know that this sounds stupid, but
I'm just gonna say it. A reputable drug dealer, in
(44:05):
other words, they're drug dealers. Are drug dealers the cater
to the rich and the famous, and they count on them,
not lacing their stuff with fenidol. Also, some of the
people in this category, the recreational drug users on the
left and all of this stuff, they know enough. Okay,
I'll do I'll even do my hairin I'll do my this,
that and the other thing. But I'm gonna stay away
(44:25):
from fentanyl and I'm gonna stay away from meth. Whereas
somebody who just gets targeted, some twenty five year old
person who's got the blues and somebody gives them a thing.
I just think that there is not much of a
concern in the elite in this country about fenidol. But
in Middle America people realize that this is a terrible
Who doesn't you're up there in Cedarburg. How many people
do you know the diet of fentanyl? It's got to
(44:46):
be more than fingers on your hand right all over?
Everybody does. Again, why is Trump focusing so hard on fenandyl?
I think he cares about this. Every politician of lip service.
We're gonna crack grown on drug smuggling. They all say that,
and you could even if you catch somebody, make sure
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they get good sentences. Trump is going after the distributors
from overseas that are bringing this in this hole to
do about whether or not the drug bull should have
been hit the second time. You know my position on
this good Aside from whether or not they were going
to reload. I got bigger problems in my life than
(45:27):
worrying about whether or not some drug dealer got killed
out there as they were trying to bring drugs into
the United States. I think the fact that Trump has
made this issue a priority is particularly to his credit,
because what with everything else that's on his plate out there,
he doesn't have to be devoting that many resources to this,
(45:50):
and it is unusual that a president would work his
way into this. I want to get to the Brown
University keys. I think you can see this in a
mile away. This case is being butchered. Why let's start
with this university police departments. I'll be honest with you.
Some are very good, some stink. Go back to the
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whole Charlie Kirk thing. The initial response is from the
university police that are on the campus there. They didn't
know what they were doing, probably didn't know what they're doing.
They're university police. They generally don't have a situation like
this shooting that's going on out of the middle of
nowhere and brought the University police of the first l
of seed. I think they completely screwed this thing up.
(46:35):
Then you've got the Providence Rhode Island Police Department. Providence
is as democratic as you can possibly be. First they
haul somebody in and say that he's a person of interest,
and then his name is Lake. This poor guy from Cedarberg,
he had nothing to do with anything. They hauled in
the wrong guy in for thirty six hours. Whoever it
was they did it is out there in the wind.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Now.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
The FBI always has to play catch up. The FBI
is not on the scene of these things. And when
you have a crime like this, or somebody shooting somebody
in an open air situation, your best chance of apprehension
is the spot. I'm right there on the spot, witness testimony.
Hope that there's a zillion cameras. Again, the guy's got
mask and he's dressed in all black and so on.
But immediate response is the first wait that if you
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don't get it, you're gonna have to dig through and
talk to everybody. Is there anybody who had ill intent?
Is there somebody who posted something? Do you know anybody
that's been to radicalize or whatever. I don't even get
the sense of Brown University that they're focusing on, for example,
pro Palestinian people, the very people that are, or people
that have some other type of motivation. I did find
(47:42):
an interesting comment from Mark Helprin. I want to ask
Paul who that is, because Paul struck out on every
question I've asked her today. You should know Mark Helprin is.
He's pretty prominent. You don't, don't, do you? You know the
name that's like me saying yeah, I know Breaking Bad
was a show, but I never I know that Walter
White was the guy. And who's the actor of the
(48:04):
Brian Cranston. I know he's very good. I've seen him
and I know all of that. He's good in everything
that he ever does. They're just certain actors that are
what's the woman who started Fargo, She's won three oscar
she's good in everything. Francis McDormand see, I knew that
all right. Mark Helprin was a Democratic official who's now
kind of a moderate. He's got a podcast, but he's
(48:26):
a reasonable moderate. He appears on Megan Kelly's show, another
conservative podcast. He also appears with Liberals He's one of
these people that's actually just tries to honestly and accurately
report on the news. And he's very well connected. He
used to be with ABC and his ABC had a
zillion sources. Anyway, Helprin posted this and I want to
(48:47):
read here the quote. Helprin said, he has heard that
the family of Ella Cook. Ella Cook was the Christian
Conservative who was killed in the Brown University attack. Her
family has been told that she was the shooter's target.
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Now we don't know that, but Mark Calprin said that
her family has been given that information. Who they got
it from, we don't know. But if that's the case,
if all of this was simply somebody going there to
kill somebody because she was a prominent Christian, which she was,
to me, the evidence is overwhelming in our society that
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right now Jewish people and Christians are targeted globally. The
Eve of Hanukkah attack what do they call it, Bondi
Beach in Australia. There is a separate report out now
today that the FBI has foiled plans to have multiple
attacks on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day in Los Angeles.
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Pro Palestinian other radicalized people when you see some of
these people that are radicalized, it's not just one issue
that pro Palestinian, the pro Frans, they're pro Antifa, et cetera.
They all seem to loathe the two religions Judaism and Christianity.
You have to if you look at the globe, you'd
have to keep a scorecardist to which one has had
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more attacks. If you add up all the attacks in Africa,
whether it's genocide against Christians, it's probably Christians. Then you
look at what's going on in American campus is the
thing in Australia and so on. There is zero reason
to believe that this is going to end. We live
in a world at which non Christians, non Jews, a
segment of them, clearly not all, but a segment of
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them that is not tiny, have been radicalized. And think
that these people need to be killed. I think that's undeniable.
You know, for those of you that are Christian. Jesus
said this was going to happen. He implied that it
was going to happen toward the end, that you're gonna
be persecuted, you're gonna be killed. And again his message
(50:58):
all was, but don't worry about it because in the
end you're going to be saved if you're a believer
in Me, and everything's gonna work out for you. But
it's going to be terrible in the interiom. I don't
know that in the history of the world there's again
back in this olden days, you didn't have mass reporting
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in which something that happened way over here would be
known about and so on. But these aren't scattered incidents. Religion.
I think hatred of Jews, hatred of Christians is the
driving force behind the vast majority of this violence. I
believe it was certainly the driving force behind the murder
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of Charlie Kirk. Go on to the list. You're listening
to the Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling podcast.
Every now and then, early on the show, we were
talking about how Susie Wilds, Trumps chief of se was
way too open and talking to this reporter for Vanity
(52:03):
Fair magazine. Every now and then, some lefty i mean
lefty shoot off their mouths about everything, but they're usually
pretty good at keeping their mouths shut at certain parts
of their agenda, are certain things they plan to do.
For instance, whoever it was that convinced Joe Biden to
totally open up the border. When Biden ran in twenty twenty,
(52:24):
they were they didn't come up. Joe's gonna get it.
We're gonna open up the border. This comment is made
by Representative Mark D. Sagnier. He's from California. He was
on a podcast and he was asked, you know, in
the twenty twenty sixty elections, I think most people think
it's likely the Democrats are gonna win both the Senate
(52:45):
and the House. No, here's the thing that I can
guarantee you before I get to this guy's comment, The
impeachment hearings will begin the moment they're all sworn in
the House. Control is controlled by the Democrats. They can
and well the hearing on anything and the impeachment hearings
will start. D soigner. The way impeachment works is you
(53:05):
need to get a fifty percent vote on conviction in
the House, and fifty percent vote rather to impeach in
the House, and than two thirds in the Senate. The
two thirds in the Senate to convict is the hard one.
Who knows, however, how strong the Republican majority in the
Senate will be. Let's imagine they get it to sixty
one or sixty two, and among the Republicans that are
left are Susan Collins. And I'll ask on a couple
(53:26):
of the moderates, is it theoretically possible that Trump could
be removed from waffas I suppose anyway? D Saigner was
asked by a lefty podcast hoster, is it possible that
you if the Democrats get control in twenty six, they
will impeach both Trump and Vance, which would mean, you
(53:48):
know who's third in line for president president and vice
president Speaker of the House. It would mean his came, Jeffries,
would become the president of the United States. Now, the
safeguard against this is if you would convict and impeach
and convict Vance gets in and he would immediately try
to name his replacements, so you don't have a vacancy,
and the vice president so fall to the speaker. But
there's a problem with this. The vice president needs to
(54:11):
be confirmed by the Senate. They could theoretically impeach Trump,
begin impeachment processes and remove Trump, be in impeachment processes
on vans, and not confirm Vance's nominee to replace himself
as vice president. So that that position is vacant and
then remove him. As I say, it seems farfetched, and
(54:32):
I think it's farfetched, but this guy was asked, Yeah,
it's possible, we'll do that, and don't think for a
moment if they thought they could pull it off, they
wouldn't remember. These are the people that say we're out
there defending democracy. They couldn't care less about democracy. They
would just assume repudiate democracy in order to put themselves
back in the power. That's it for today's podcast, But
(54:55):
never fear the next one will be number one hundred.
It was a few that you have to come it
almost because you put the number right out of the thing.
Number one hundred is the next one. That's not a
chill drop tomorrow and talk to you dad.
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I don't know if Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan
is going to be convicted of federal felonies. Are not.
I can tell you, however, and we're at the stage
of the trial the prosecution is widening up its case,
then the defense has its opportunity closing arguments and all
of that. I can tell you that the case that
(00:42):
the federal prosecutors are putting on so far is I
think rather strong. Now understand that just about everybody who's
going to testify in this case is a lefty. Almost
all the Milwaukee County judges are liberal. The judge that
Hannah Dugan and Carder in the hallway is a fellow liberal.
(01:04):
Everybody involved here is a leftist. But in terms of
the testimony, some of the testimony that is coming from
others in the courthouse system I think is damning. I'm
going to read a quote and then we're going to
expand on this judge severa was the judge that Dugan
(01:24):
encountered in the hallway on that faithful morning in which
ICE agents showed up with an arrest warrant for a
suspect that was to appear in Dugan's court. I want
to read the quote this is on the witness stand
from Judge Severa. I was shocked. Quote judges should not
be helping defendants evade arrest. So the jury heard that.
(01:50):
That's a pretty strong statement, and it comes to someone
who has the credibility of being the exact same thing
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ICE agents showed up and they had a war and
four Eduardo Flores Ruiz who, in addition to being an
illegal immigrant, was also accused of violent crime in Judge
Hannah Dugan's court, and Dugan sent the ice agents off
(02:59):
on a wild goose chase, sending them down to the
office of the Chief Judge in Milwaukee, Cottie Karl Ashley,
and during the time that they were gone, she spirited
this defendant floresa Ree's away and hit him in a room.
Rather than let this slide, the Department of Justices bringing
(03:20):
criminal charges. Both Tom Holman and the Attorney General Pam
Bondi have said that public officials who assistant assist illegal
immigrants in avoiding being detained are going to be prosecuted.
It's crime. It's a crime, just as much as if
(03:42):
a regular old person me tries to hide somebody who's
wanted for a murder or something, or it's an obstruction,
you can't do it. In this case, she was a
judge and she was being presented with a warrant. Judges
issue warrens themselves. She's confronted with a ward and rather
than onto the warrant, she actively, according to the allegation
(04:07):
and according to all the evidence presented, she actively thwarted
the warrant. Now, this isn't what happened, but it would
have been interesting if she simply chose not to cooperate.
In other words, I'm not going to tell you anything,
but allowed them to go find the guy and grab
them up. But she didn't do that. She took the
added step of diverting them, shuttling them off to another
(04:33):
office while she hit him. As it turns out, Flores
Maries was arrested anyway, meaning what Dugan did didn't do
any good. Now, I think that there are going to
be some wagon. This might be part of the defense
that this is a case of no harm, no follow
given the fact that the person was ending up in
custody anyway. I want to quote though, and I've got
(04:53):
news that counts of FOXYX and JS online here. On
Tuesday of this week, the sixteenth, Christella Severa testified, as
I said, she's the fellow of Milwaukee County Circuit Judge.
Milwaukee County judge testified that she was summoned from the
bench by Judge Hannah Dugan and told to keep on
(05:14):
her robes so they could confront federal immigration agents in
the hallway. Right, let's pause here. There is a component
of this that's very interesting and isment brought up in
a robe. Most judges only wear their robes in the courtroom.
(05:35):
Why would Dugan specifically have told Servera to keep her
rob on when she went out into the hallway. And again,
this is what Servera is testifying. She has no particular
reason to lie under oaths. She's a judge. She could
lose her career. She testified the Dugan told her to
keep her roban. In my opinion, the only reason that
(05:57):
you would tell her to keep her robin and then
go on the whole all the way in do this
and run this misdirection is she wanted the Ice agents
to see that this was a judge that was out
there giving them a statement. If Christella Severa just goes
out in her street class, take sir Robot and goes
(06:18):
out there, they aren't going to know her for her ad.
But she's got the judicial robot and Dugan told her
to keep the robot, and that's what she testified. Continuing
the testimony from Judge Christeller, Servera came in December sixteenth,
the same day as federal agents testified that Dugan was
direct and angry as she ordered them to go to
the Chief Judge's office as they were waiting to arrest
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Eduardoflores Ruiz, an undocumented immigrant. That's the term the jess
online users outside her courtroom. The events of April eighteenth
thrust the sixty six year old Dugan into the center
of a clash between the judiciary and the Trump administration
over its crack down an illegal immigration. Severa testified, now again,
this is the other judge that she hesitated to enter
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the public hallway and confront federal immigration agents with Dugan.
So here's Severa. She's being told this by Dugan. And again,
Dugan's not her boss, she's a fellow judge. But Dugan's
been a round blogger, Dugan's been on the bench longer.
So you've got a fellow judge telling her to do this.
And Severa doesn't really know what's going on. She hesitated
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so she can she's already sensing this isn't good. Continuing,
Severa said, she and other judges don't wear their robes
in the hallway, as the robe conveys authority. Now that's interesting.
I don't know what the case is. In all the
other counties in the state of Wisconsin, it would seem
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to me that a lot of times a judge does
walk down the hallway with the robe on. What if
you're just going from one room to another, do you
want to take the whole thing of But Severa said
that the normal custom in Milwaukee County, and again there's
fifty branch over fifty branches in Milwaukee County Circre courps
zillion judge is to not have your robes on when
you're in the hallway, because you only are functioning as
a judge when you're in the courtroom, not in the hallway.
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So Severa said, normally you don't wear your robes in
the hallway. She said, quote, I didn't want to walk
in the hallway with my robot. Once in the hallway,
Severa said, the federal agent whom Dugan questioned was respectful. No. Again,
I think this is key. So the ICE agent, according
to Judge Severa, was respectful in asking this question. Severa
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said Dugan was getting worked out. So the person who's
getting all hacked office Hannah Dugan. According to Judge Severa's testimony,
this is one of those inconvenient truths for the people
who want to claim that Ice is this bunch of monsters.
The ICE agents are very polite during the core. They
probably never anticipated that you'd have a judge that would
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obstruck them. But Judge Severa said Dugan was fried, She's frost,
He's hacked off. Here's Ice of the ward. It just
strikes me as the same attitude of irrationality that you're
seeing from so many people that left the very existence
of ICE, that somehow ICE doing its job, an ICE,
a law enforcement agency and forcing its warrants, is in
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some sort of class that is to be not only
disrespected but obstructed. Now we've had some people arguab well,
I shouldn't be in the courthouse now, I'll get back
to the testimony in it. I shouldn't be in the cordos.
One of the types of people that you see in
the cordos all the time are cops. The cordos is
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crawling with police officers and sheriff's deputies. In Milwaukee County,
all of the bailiffs are sheriff's deputies. It's part of
their job. In addition to that, those that are being
brought from the jail to a courtroom are accompanied by
a jailer. In addition to that who testifies the criminal cases.
Lots of cops. You have police officers in Milwaukee West
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Allison's the one wandering through the courthouse, law enforcement entities,
law enforcement officials. These are precisely other people that you
would see in the courthouse all the time. From the
perspective of Ice, all right, Ice is looking for somebody.
Let's imagine your Ice. Do you want to be iceis
should ib Ice? You'll be Ice? All right? Your Ice?
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You're looking for this guy. You find out he's got
a court date on April eighteenth, rather than knock on
every door on the south side of Milwaukee, wouldn't it
make sense to you to show up at April late
tenth the court. That's where you know he's going to be.
And the attitude of Dugan in some of these is
somehow this is supposed to be a safe sewing. Why
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is the court a safe sewing. Furthermore, you know why
he was in the court because he's facing criminal charges
on another case. If the hacks out in Providence, Rhode
Island get their act together and they identify the Brown
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University killer and find out that he's got a divorce
hearing this afternoon, I would hope they shop in the
car that arrest him. Getting back to the testimony of
Judge Severa, referring to Dugan, her irritation seemed to progress
to anger. Severa testified, I thought she could have been
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a little more diplomatic. Severa testified that she led the
agents to the office of Chief Judge Carl Atshley's office
as Dugan directed, but Severa said she was surprised when
Dugan disappeared. So now Severa is Dugan take her to
the Chief Judge's office, and Severa's assuming that they're going
to the Chief Judge's office to have the Chief Judge
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okay that this is what's going on. But instead when
they head on down there, Dugan bails nowhere to be found.
So Judge Severa I think clearly was angered at this.
She was set up and never expected that a fellow
judge would ask her to be part of a wild
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goose chase. She was shocked at she disagreet court. I
was amazed, I thought she left me, Severa testified, adding
she also was miffed because she wanted to get to
her busy call. And remember Severa's in court too. She
was hauled out of court by Dougan telling her to
come over there, and now she's doing all of this,
trying to help Hannah Dugan obstruct the arrest of a
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guy that's in her court. Severa's got all of her
stuff to do, so Severa probably could have told Dugan
to just blow But you've got a judge saying I
need your help and something that she kep about to
help her, and she's being set up. And this is
all being testified to by Severa. In front of the
jury hearing the Dugan case, Severa was asked what she
thought when she learned the FBI was investigating Dugan for
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allegedly trying to help floresa Rees elude arrest. Shocked, Severa
said judges should not be helping defendants evade arrest. Well,
I think that should be standd as a given, and
that's what this case is all about. Hannah Dugan is
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a judge who was helping a defendant evade arrest. There
are any number of law enforcement authorities in the United
States of America, and all of them have arrested authority
in this case, it was Ice, It could have been
the FBI, It could have been the United States marshals.
It could have been the Milwaukee County Sheriff. Maybe it
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could have been Milwaukee Police. Maybe it could have been
cut a Hey police. It could have been the Wisconsin
Department of Justice, could have been the state po Polise police.
Any number of law enforcement agencies may be coming out
to go after somebody that is a suspect in violating
the law. So Judge Severa's statement judges should not be
helping defendants evade arrest. Severa added she later became worried. Quote,
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I was mortified. I thought that someone may think that
I was part of some of what happened. So now,
Judge Savers sega, I don't want anybody to think that
I was in on this with Dugan, because obviously Severa
knew this is raw, all right? The dream team Hannah
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Dugan has eighteen five hundred criminal defense attorneys. I exaggerate.
Do you have to explain that that's an exaggeration. No,
numerous local attorneys defending her. Steve Biscoopik, former United States
attorney who's now gone off to the dark side. He
does criminal defense tastes like this white colored crime. He
cross examines Judge Severa under cross examination Severa admitted she
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texted her sister, an attorney the federal immigration agents were
at the courthouse shortly after she returned to her courtroom.
You told her that Ice was in the buildings and
Steve Biscoopik, one of Dugan's attorneys. That's fair, Severa said,
warn her Buscoopias, Yeah, sure. The judge testified. Asked about
the text again later, Severa said, quote, it was more
about what was happening in our country at the time
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that Ice was doing sweeping arrest. Now, I think rather
than this being a statement that defeats the credibility of Severa,
it strength strengthens it. In other words, I think Judge
Severa is one of those that doesn't like all this
stuff that I s is doing. That's what she texted
her sister, Hey, Ice is running around to the building.
But even though she may not be a fan of
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what Ice was doing, she knows you've got to follow
the law and you can't defy a warred Now, as
I said, that testimony came out on Tuesday. We're doing
the podcast here on Wednesday, and I realized some people
are listening after the facts, so some of the information
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you're here will be dating if you listen. Long after
we released this, the Chief Judge, Carl Ashley testified on Wednesday.
I'll quote from Fox six on this. Ashley said it
was his understanding after speaking to an ICE agent, that
the arrest would take place in the public hallway. So
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Judge Ashley talked to Ice. Remember Ice was sent down
the hallway by Dugan to total the Chief Judge and
the Chief Judge talked to Ice and I and the
Chief Judge was on the understanding, Okay, Ice is going
to go back and in the hallway. They're going to
arrest the guy. In other words, not bust into a
courtroom and do it, but arrest him in the hallway.
So actually is of the opinion, Okay, they're gonna go
this is all fine. They're going to go into the
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hallway and they're going to arrest the guy. The Chief
Judge said that he spoke to a courthouse safety supervisor
who informed him that the arrest did not take place
as he anticipated. And the reason it didn't take place
is because the guy has suddenly nowhere to be found
because Hannah Dugan was hid. Again. Ashley said he then
texted Dugan a few times asking her to call him.
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This is a chief judge. The chief judge has sort
of authority over the other judges, and that there are
the administered supervisor. But the judges work for themselves. They're
all elected individually. So now here this is going on.
Ice comes down to Ashley's office, They go back and
the suspect is nowhere to be found. So she's so
the Chief Judge, Askeley is texting Hannahdugain, text again, Hannah,
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what's God, asking her to call him, and he received
her response hours later. Now, if you're hand A Dugan
and the Chief Judge's texting you asking you what's going on,
why wouldn't you immediately respond? He ultimately decided to table
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any conversation because he was concerned about what might have happened. Then,
Ashley said, he sent an email on the afternoon of
April eighteenth. Again this happened in the morning of April eighteenth,
notifying colleagues that Ice had conducted a courthouse arrest. He
detailed what took place and noted ICE's actions were consistent
with his draft policy. In other words, the Chief Judge
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had put out a policy in anticipation that this might happen.
In advance of all of this. The Chief Judge had
a policy. Then he said everything that Ice did was
according to the policy that I said. The only person
who wasn't following any policy was Hannah Dogan, who, acting
on our own, is out there trying to get this
guy free. Here's what I think. I think it's possible
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she's going to get off. And here's why we have
in this country right now an insane irrationality about Ice.
This is beyond defund the police and the people who
don't like cops. Ice has been put into some just
other category. And every Democrat in this country has had
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it drilled into their heads that Ice is terrible. Ice
is a legitimate, and anybody who dislikes Trump and dislikes
Ice may simply we're gonna let this woman skate. Now.
I don't know that that's who's on the jury. I
don't know the political leanings who's on the jury. I
do know this. Generally, defense attorneys are better when it
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comes to jury selection than prosecutors, in large part because
defense attorneys usually make more money. Not always, Sometimes you
know the public defenders are overworked, or they don't get
paid a ton of money. Sometimes you'll have a big
shot prosecutor who's really good. Can you think of a
case in which the prosecutor actually was way better than
the defense attorney. No. I can remember when Daryl Brooks
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defended himself and Sue Opper was he Sue Opper was there,
and the two assistants whether one of them's now with Judge,
the others now the DA, and she's the DA. And
yet Daryl Brooks himself, but he will see functioned as
his attorney representati himself. More often it's what's her name?
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Against the dream Team Johnny Cochran and f Lee, Bailey
and Shapiro. What is her name? Marcia Clark? And again
that's not even a knock on Marcia Clark. You know,
in many cases the prosecutors are pretty good, and some
make a decent chunk of money. They're well into the
six figures and so on. But in the case you're
of Dougah, she's got all these defense attorneys that are y'
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all lefties. They want to rally to a defense. They're
probably being paid off by these people that have raised
money for her defense fund and so on. On the
other hand, the United States Attorney's Office, the Federal prosecutors.
That's a high standard prosecutor. Those are rather prestigious jobs.
The point I was making though, on the jury selection.
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You know, the defense often will hire consultants, I forget
what they call them, but you know, you question all
these jurors and they ask questions, and you can strike
defense jurors that you don't want. I don't want this one,
I don't want that one, I don't want the other one.
And sometimes jury selection takes forever. And my guess is
that the defense was looking for a lot of anti
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Trump jurors. I don't know that the prosecution was weeding
out lefties. But that scenario, just nullification by the jury,
that no matter whether she's guilty or not, they just
don't want to convict her, is the only scenario I
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see her skating off on that. But that scenario that
I mentioned, they're just going to nullify. It's a very
real and strong and maybe even likely possibility. I want
to turn my attention to the interview given by Susie Wiles,
Trump's chief of staff, to Vanity Fair magazine. Apparently, over
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the past year, Susie Wiles has had eleven conversations with
the reporter Chris Whipple. So this wasn't just one big interview,
but she had an arrangement that she would talk to
her talk to him from time to time, and apparently
after a year he would do a piece describing the
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insides of the Trump administration. Susie Wiles is contending that
out of these lengthy conversations, hours and hours and hours,
they have pulled out select quotes out of context. In
other words, she may have gone The most obvious example
of this is Trump has the personality of a recovering alcoholic.
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Everybody's jumped at that, and vanity fairs publicists that you know,
talk before the article comes out. They've put that out
and they sent that out in the press release on
the material. If you read the full quote that she gave,
it was complimentary. First of all, Susie Wiles is the
daughter of Pat Sommrow, the x NFL player who is
known to have been drunk during his broadcast. He and
Tom Brookshire did the games and they were those guys
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that kind of there are just some guys that can
drink when they're doing their job, and you didn't really notice,
I don't see you just don't see those people anymore.
Do you. No, I mean I see people that are drunk.
They look drunk, but back in the day, I you know,
mad men and all of that stuff. Anyway, Pat Summer
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all eventually went into rehab and kicked his alcoholism. And
the point that Susie wils was making is is that
people that have overcome alcoholism. In other words, she didn't
say alcoholicity recovering alcoholics personality. These are people that have
found strength within themselves and they I kicked this, I
can do anything. And that's what the twelve step programs
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tell you. You certainly are a slave to this disease, but
you can overcome it. That was the point that she
was making. Trump himself is famously somebody who's never had
a drink. The point that she was making is that
he has the personality of somebody who feels as though
he cand of acomplish anything. So there's certainly some truth
to this notion that they took a statement here and
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pull it out of context for the purposes of getting
a big time headline. But it does beg the larger
question of why she agreed to it. No, I know
this Trump's administration has been unbelievably transparent. You ask Caroline
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Love at the White House Press Secretary of question. She'll
answer everything. She may fire back, but she'll answer everything.
Trump himself holds news conferences all the time. Administration officials
are always available for interviews. Trump's done just a zillion interviews.
Other people in the administration talk all the time. Trump
sometimes allows the cameras to come into cabinet meetings. I
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think that they have been of the opinion after the
secrecy of Biden, Trump's people that failed, we have nothing
to hide. These are the things that we are going
to do, the things that we're gonna believe in, and
we'll let people see it. However, for those of you
not are you familiar with Vanity Fair?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
No?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Well, are you familiar on you? Nobody? You don't know
anything about it. Vanity Fair all magazines are shriveling into
nothingness and it become the website is where everything is.
Vanity Fair, however, still publishes a magazine. It isn't one
a month anymore, but it was the magazine four. It
was the magazine in the eighties, nineties and the zeros
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before the Internet took over. It zillions of pages, tons
of ads, and the fashion houses and so on, and
it's this combination of they usually put a celebrity and
they do a big celebrity profile and they put the
celebrity on the cover and so on, and then two
or three, you know, real crime, investigative pieces, a political piece.
And they've had really really good writers. But forever and
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ever and ever, it's been lefty for the long time.
Their editor was Graydon Carter. He was the editor, like
during the Bush era, he couldn't stand Bush. Every month
he did his column and it was just an attack
on Bush. So then it affairs and left his center
forever and ever. Things have changed a little bit now
in that they do most of their stuff on the
website because magazines, as I said, are dying. They've gone
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through a couple of editors, but it's always been a
publication that's had a lefty slant always. So if Susie
Wilds is going to grant an interview to someone over
in the course of a year, why did she pick them? Now?
I think part of this is there is Trump has
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some flaws, and I think almost every Donald Trump supporter
knows he has flaws. One of his flaws is and
in almost all politicians are narcissists. You have to be
a narcissist to be compresident United States. You have to
hit somebody that's an incredibly high opinion of yourself to
say I can run the free world. And Trump certainly
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has this, and he's had this for the longest time.
I think Trump has a need for people who dislike
him to like him. The fact that he wants to
win the Nobel Peace Prize. He's not gonna win that.
They're not gonna give him the Nobel Trump could return
the world to where it was before Adam and Eve
bit the apple in the Garden of Aden, and they
would not give him the word the Nobel Peace Prize.
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They can't stand him. So Trump is looking, i think,
for the approval of people who will simply never approve
of him. And this translates down to Susie Wilds. My
guess is it's not been stated. My guess is that
Trump greenlighted her doing this, figuring we're just gonna be
transparent about it, and maybe Vanity fair will give us
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a fair shake because we're giving them an inside look
at what's going on to the administration, They're gonna have
a fair number of scoops that are gonna come out
of this and it's not gonna be a hit. I'm
thinking that's what their thought process is, which, of course
is wraw. I can relate to this. I think this
was Susie Wils's Meg Kissinger moment. She want me to
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tell my Meg Kissinger story again for the ninety seven
thousandth time. Meg Kissinger was a gossip columnist for the
newspaper and for some reason hit an obsession with me.
She hated me. I think she had an obsession with
me because I blew the whistle on the fact that
she was a paid contributor to the Wrightman and Miller
radio show. But then when news use her newspaper column
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to like every week put in something that the wackies
eighty Wrightman and Miller said, I thought unbelievable. Come she's
being paid to be a contributor on the show and
then she's putting in her piece puff stuff about Oh.
I put the whistle on that. This is back in
the nineties when I first got here, and I was like,
this is the beginning of my exposing all the craft
that's going on in the media. Well, she didn't like
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the fact that I blew the whistle on this unethical
relationship that she had. All Right, several years past, Meg
Kissinger contacts me and said, I want to do a
lengthy profile on you. Not a gossip column piece, but
a long story that would appear. I think it was
a Sunday pa whatever. This is when the paper still
had long stories and the paper was still think this is.
It's so far back, it's before the Internet killed newspapers.
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And my thought process is it would be so predictable
for her to just do a hatchet job, because everybody
knows that she can't stand me, that she's actually here
going to kind of go against type and do something fair.
What an idiot you say. It's about the dumbest thing
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I've done since I've been a talk show. My thought
that med Kissinger is going to do well. She does
this piece and it was just a hatchet job. It
starts with if we met at Miss Katie's Diner, which
by the way is still aroud Snare Market. It's at
nineteenth in Clybourne. I think we met there, so she
writes in the thing, I walked up to Miss Katie's
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Diner and I saw it and truck the exterminator she said, Okay,
I guess I know he's already here. That's how it started,
and it went down from there, and everything that I
said was just it was just a rap. Carve me up, said,
I get for being dumb enough to think that she
was going to give me a fair shake. And that's
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what I think happened to Susie Wiles. She was dumb
enough to think that she was going to get a
fair shake, so she ended up making you know, these
are eleven conversations over the course of the year, might
get his hours and hours and hours and hours and
ours probably lots of stuff that was praise worthy about
things going on to the administration and so on, and
that reporter carved out and pulled out everything that she
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said that might be inflammatory and put nothing else in
the story. Having said that there were some revelations that,
when you get past the salacious little buzzword, that I
thought were fairly interesting, she talked about the Jeffrey Epstein
case and said, yeah, Trump's name is in the files.
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She also said there is nothing in the files that
suggested that Donald Trump ever acted inappropriately at all at
any time that he was in the company of Jeffrey Epstein,
So that's in there in addition to that, Well, you
photocopied this in a I probably it's just you got
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jump pages that I gotta like flip over and do
this to read my thing in and it is the
way it is. You needed a larger paper or a
smaller things and a larger font, et cetera. Comment and
Elon Musk, well, he us his drugs and he's kind
of unusual. When he was running DOGE, he would sleep
in a sleeping bag in the executive office building. And
(31:50):
then she said, well, he's obviously very, very weird, but
that's how all geniuses are. In other words, you could
pull that out and say everybody knows his drugs. He
was on Joe Rogan show, smoke a pot right there
in front of all of us. But her overall comment
was he was really obsessed with doing a good job.
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And to the point that here is Elon Musk. He's
worth I think the latest estimate is now six hundred
and seventy five billion dollars. He's pushing toward a trillion.
They're now valuing SpaceX really highly, so that's adding to it. Anyway,
he can sleep anywhere he wants, but he was committed
enough to this that he's dragging in a sleeping bag
hanging around in there. It goes into a number of
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other things and mentions that there was controversy within the
administration itself on tariffs. There's nothing wrong with that. Of course,
there were people advised this on the tariff, advised that
on the tariff. When you have an administration, you're gonna
have people who have differing viewpoints on various issues on
the president's sides. She also said that there was I
think the most damning thing in the piece. Megan Kelly
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made the same comment was when she said that Letitia
James prosecution was clearly payback. Well, she said that she
probably said this in an overall discussion of all of
the people that are being prosecuted for misconduct during the
time that Biden was in place, and they pull out
the one where he's, oh, it's probably pay back, and
she said that we had an agreement that the first
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ninety days he could go and seek retribution, that he
had to stop. Trump has said that following this, she
has his full confidence. Now, why would he say this
after she gave him a after this piece came out,
and I think it's because Trump told her it's okay
to do it, and Trump said, tell her tell him everything.
We want to be transparent. And I think that Trump,
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as critical as Trump is of a fake news in
the media and so on, I think that he and
she had this notion that Vanity fair might give him
a fair shot. Here. I'll tell you this, This is
likely to be the last candid discussion that anybody in
the administration has with anybody in any type of mainstream
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media outlet. People bring in this other stuff that JD
Vans is a conspiracy theorist. JD. Vance is as sharp
on his feet as anyone as I've seen. Do you
see JD's response to this. You don't seem to have
you don't seem to be up on the news today.
Numerous things you do. Jdvisag, yes, I am a conspiracy theorist.
I'm a conspiracy theorist at all of the ones that
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turned out to me true. And JD said, I have
a great relationship with Susie Wills. We go back and
forth on this ad and the other thing. Presidents tend
to make changes at the end of the year and
are approaching the end of twenty twenty six. Some people
may stay and some people may go. I do believe
that Susie Wilds remains very, very close to the president.
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Her job, however, is one of the components of her
job is the thing that she screwed up here. Her
job is to stop anybody from embarrassing the president. She's
the gatekeeper, She's the keep people away, She's the whipcracker.
That's what the chief of staff is. If somebody else
in the administration goes and done something dumb, Trump isn't
going to be the one that gets on the blower.
She is, and she's going to read them the Riot Act.
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In this instance, it was her, But if Trump's okay
with it, it has to be because Trump knew that
he was talking to her, and Trump empathizes with her
that they pulled out a handful of coats and put
them in a way in which they reflect badly on
Trump rather than better. Related to this, Trump's comments, the
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media is making a huge deal out of it. On
Rob Rider. Rob Ryder gets killed rob ber and his
wife gets killed by his son. Trump puts out a
comment on social media make it very clear what he
thinks of Rob Reiner, which is that he couldn't stand
Rob Rider and people are horrified by this. All right,
my take on this? Do you ever take on this?
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You must have that you have to have a take
on something, Paul you have. Paul said he's not offended
by a considering that Ryner said about Trump. Well, I'll
get to the second part, because that is clearly what
triggered Trump. Brob Reiner came out and repeatedly said that
Trump was colluding with the Russians. Remember we now know
that Trump did. How would you like it if somebody
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who had a huge platform, and as Hollywood liberals go,
Rob Ryder had the biggest megaphone of alive, very very influential,
and he's lying and he's lying about you. However, I've
had a long standard on my own show. Here, somebody
dies that I can't stand or just dislike or disapprove of,
or clashed with, I keep my mouth shut. With the exception,
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you know, of some world tyrant or something osamavan Laden,
of course I'm going to say that's a good thing.
But if somebody, some politician, or some developer or somebody
or another that I thought was that on the up
and up where I clashed it if they died, not
just say nothing. And that's what Trump should have done.
He should have said nothing. In fact, when Dick Cheney died,
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Trump really didn't pop off. He didn't go to the
funeral because he wasn't invited. But there wasn't this, and
Dick Cheney was a visceral opponent of Donald Trump. I
almost think that in the case of Cheney, Trump at
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least gave him. Okay, he's a public official and I'm
a public official and so on. But Rob Reiner's craft
was gratuitous. One of the things you're gonna get with
Trump is that he's not fake, that there's not any
bs with him. It doesn't like Rob Riders who he
said so, but obviously I think he should have just
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kept his yaff shut and not said anything at all. However,
the reaction to this just proves again people react more
strongly to what people say than what they do. There
are people in this country angry are Trump than they are.
Reiners can't have killed his parents, that's being ignored. They're
not mad at him. He sliced and butchered his parents
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up and you know what, but Trump said, going back
to the Hannahdukan case that we were talking about. It's
a violent guy that she was sheltering away. People aren't
bothered by that at all. They look at some of
the people that Ice are grabbing. They hate Ice more
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than the individuals that are committing terrible Look at all
of the crimes that were committed by illegal immigrants during
the Biden era and so on. You can go through
the cases of suburban mothers and people jogging in the
woods and so on. Lefties weren't bothered by any of it.
They just bothered that Republicans would use it as a
talking point saying this person shouldn't be allowed into the country.
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But that is the world we live in. People react
more strongly to what people say than what they do.
I swear, if I want to rob somebody today, I
would be low, oh less by the lefties in the
media than if I said something that deeply offended them
on one of their issues. Oh, you shouldn't have said that.
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In the end, who cares what you say. Nonetheless, those
are the rules of the game. And Trump is pulved
by the sword and has died by the sword over them.
But no, I don't think he should have said them
to I think it's a huge deal that he said it.
It's part for the course with Trump. The other thing
is Trump doesn't have much of a filter when it
comes to these things. Famously, when he was running for
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president in twenty fifteen, remember when he RiPP mccannon said,
he's not a war hero. Why is the hero for
getting caught? A lot of people thought that would sink
his campaign. The people who supported Trump were perfectly fine
with it because they knew, Ay, that's what Trump was.
And b they think that John mccainn was a pain
in the ass. Is shot off his mouth and acted
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superior to everybody else. Rob Reiner, though, was not as
much as he was involved in politics. He wasn't officially
a politician in the same way that cain was. You're
listening to the Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark
Belling Podcast. Now before the break, we were talking about
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kind of like the negative side of Trump. I want
to turn to a story that's in the news right
now that I think is the best of Trump. He's
on an attack. They're linked. It's two separate issues kind of,
but it's kind of the same issue and kind of separate.
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He's on a rampage on Venezuela and on fentanyl. They
are connected. It is believed that a significant amount of
the fenenol entering the United States is coming from Venezuela
because the Venezuelans needs some way to bankroll their screwed
up communist economy. Now clearly not all of it is
coming from Venezuela, but it is related. Trump issued today
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a statement saying that Venezuela is essentially surrounded by an armada.
I'll read the quote. This is actually from yesterday. Venezuela
is completely surrounded by the largest armada ever assembled in
the history of South America. It will only get bigger
until such time as they returned to the United States
of America all of the oil, land, and other assets
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that they have previously stole from US. I am ordered
I have ordering a total and complete blockade of all
sanctioned oil takers going in or out of Venezuela. As
they've said, much of the drug trade, much of the
international smuggling of migrants in Central America and South America,
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is some cartills that are headquartered in Venezuela. Trump could
easily ignore the Venezuelan problem. Venezuela has been a cancer
that has affected all of us in the Western hemisphere
ever since Hugo Chavez came in and overthrew everything. They
nationalized the oil companies, stole everybody's money. He's the Fidel
Castro Venezuela. People have been terribly abused. The number you know.
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I spend a few months in South Florida. It's crawling
with Venezuelan refugees, people who have gotten out and tried
to get as much as their money as they could
before the government down there stole it. Trump doesn't have
to be messing with this, but he realizes that unlike
some countries in the world, in which the problem is
confined to that country, the Venezuelan problem is affecting people
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in the middle class in the United States, in part
because of the component of fenool, which gets me. That
brings me to the next week. Fenenol is Trump is
now describing fentanol. He has classified fentanol as a weapon
of mass destruction. There are some people who believe that
this is hyperbole. Is it what has damaged more Americans?
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Terrorist bombs are fentanyl. I'm serious, and I'm not saying
that we have not been badly damaged by terrorists, and
I'll add in terrorist attacks, which is what I think
Brown University was. We'll find out soon enough. I think
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that the fentanyl crisis gets yawns from the elite because
while it's certainly true that some elitists are on fenool
and every now and then you'll hear about a celebrity
that's addicted to it, it's by and large regular Americans.
Now celebrities abuse drugs like crazy, but we just have
not had a lot of cases of celebrities O ding
on fedanol. And I have a theory on this. Well, Matthew,
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but he that was kend of it. It was, it
wasn't fedanyl. But you rarely hear of a big time
celebrity O ding on fetanyl. But on the other hand,
look at Mekwan cedar Berg New Berlin. Somebody's dropping data
fetanyl all the time. My theory is is that the
people in the elite with a lot of money are
able to have I know that this sounds stupid, but
I'm just gonna say it. A reputable drug dealer, in
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other words, they're drug dealers. Are drug dealers the cater
to the rich and the famous, and they count on them,
not lacing their stuff with fenidol. Also, some of the
people in this category, the recreational drug users on the
left and all of this stuff, they know enough. Okay,
I'll do I'll even do my hairin I'll do my this,
that and the other thing. But I'm gonna stay away
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from fentanyl and I'm gonna stay away from meth. Whereas
somebody who just gets targeted, some twenty five year old
person who's got the blues and somebody gives them a thing.
I just think that there is not much of a
concern in the elite in this country about fenidol. But
in Middle America people realize that this is a terrible
Who doesn't you're up there in Cedarburg. How many people
do you know the diet of fentanyl? It's got to
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be more than fingers on your hand right all over?
Everybody does. Again, why is Trump focusing so hard on fenandyl?
I think he cares about this. Every politician of lip service.
We're gonna crack grown on drug smuggling. They all say that,
and you could even if you catch somebody, make sure
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they get good sentences. Trump is going after the distributors
from overseas that are bringing this in this hole to
do about whether or not the drug bull should have
been hit the second time. You know my position on
this good Aside from whether or not they were going
to reload. I got bigger problems in my life than
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worrying about whether or not some drug dealer got killed
out there as they were trying to bring drugs into
the United States. I think the fact that Trump has
made this issue a priority is particularly to his credit,
because what with everything else that's on his plate out there,
he doesn't have to be devoting that many resources to this,
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and it is unusual that a president would work his
way into this. I want to get to the Brown
University keys. I think you can see this in a
mile away. This case is being butchered. Why let's start
with this university police departments. I'll be honest with you.
Some are very good, some stink. Go back to the
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whole Charlie Kirk thing. The initial response is from the
university police that are on the campus there. They didn't
know what they were doing, probably didn't know what they're doing.
They're university police. They generally don't have a situation like
this shooting that's going on out of the middle of
nowhere and brought the University police of the first l
of seed. I think they completely screwed this thing up.
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Then you've got the Providence Rhode Island Police Department. Providence
is as democratic as you can possibly be. First they
haul somebody in and say that he's a person of interest,
and then his name is Lake. This poor guy from Cedarberg,
he had nothing to do with anything. They hauled in
the wrong guy in for thirty six hours. Whoever it
was they did it is out there in the wind.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Now.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
The FBI always has to play catch up. The FBI
is not on the scene of these things. And when
you have a crime like this, or somebody shooting somebody
in an open air situation, your best chance of apprehension
is the spot. I'm right there on the spot, witness testimony.
Hope that there's a zillion cameras. Again, the guy's got
mask and he's dressed in all black and so on.
But immediate response is the first wait that if you
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don't get it, you're gonna have to dig through and
talk to everybody. Is there anybody who had ill intent?
Is there somebody who posted something? Do you know anybody
that's been to radicalize or whatever. I don't even get
the sense of Brown University that they're focusing on, for example,
pro Palestinian people, the very people that are, or people
that have some other type of motivation. I did find
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an interesting comment from Mark Helprin. I want to ask
Paul who that is, because Paul struck out on every
question I've asked her today. You should know Mark Helprin is.
He's pretty prominent. You don't, don't, do you? You know the
name that's like me saying yeah, I know Breaking Bad
was a show, but I never I know that Walter
White was the guy. And who's the actor of the
(48:04):
Brian Cranston. I know he's very good. I've seen him
and I know all of that. He's good in everything
that he ever does. They're just certain actors that are
what's the woman who started Fargo, She's won three oscar
she's good in everything. Francis McDormand see, I knew that
all right. Mark Helprin was a Democratic official who's now
kind of a moderate. He's got a podcast, but he's
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a reasonable moderate. He appears on Megan Kelly's show, another
conservative podcast. He also appears with Liberals He's one of
these people that's actually just tries to honestly and accurately
report on the news. And he's very well connected. He
used to be with ABC and his ABC had a
zillion sources. Anyway, Helprin posted this and I want to
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read here the quote. Helprin said, he has heard that
the family of Ella Cook. Ella Cook was the Christian
Conservative who was killed in the Brown University attack. Her
family has been told that she was the shooter's target.
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Now we don't know that, but Mark Calprin said that
her family has been given that information. Who they got
it from, we don't know. But if that's the case,
if all of this was simply somebody going there to
kill somebody because she was a prominent Christian, which she was,
to me, the evidence is overwhelming in our society that
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right now Jewish people and Christians are targeted globally. The
Eve of Hanukkah attack what do they call it, Bondi
Beach in Australia. There is a separate report out now
today that the FBI has foiled plans to have multiple
attacks on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day in Los Angeles.
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Pro Palestinian other radicalized people when you see some of
these people that are radicalized, it's not just one issue
that pro Palestinian, the pro Frans, they're pro Antifa, et cetera.
They all seem to loathe the two religions Judaism and Christianity.
You have to if you look at the globe, you'd
have to keep a scorecardist to which one has had
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more attacks. If you add up all the attacks in Africa,
whether it's genocide against Christians, it's probably Christians. Then you
look at what's going on in American campus is the
thing in Australia and so on. There is zero reason
to believe that this is going to end. We live
in a world at which non Christians, non Jews, a
segment of them, clearly not all, but a segment of
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them that is not tiny, have been radicalized. And think
that these people need to be killed. I think that's undeniable.
You know, for those of you that are Christian. Jesus
said this was going to happen. He implied that it
was going to happen toward the end, that you're gonna
be persecuted, you're gonna be killed. And again his message
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all was, but don't worry about it because in the
end you're going to be saved if you're a believer
in Me, and everything's gonna work out for you. But
it's going to be terrible in the interiom. I don't
know that in the history of the world there's again
back in this olden days, you didn't have mass reporting
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in which something that happened way over here would be
known about and so on. But these aren't scattered incidents. Religion.
I think hatred of Jews, hatred of Christians is the
driving force behind the vast majority of this violence. I
believe it was certainly the driving force behind the murder
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of Charlie Kirk. Go on to the list. You're listening
to the Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling podcast.
Every now and then, early on the show, we were
talking about how Susie Wilds, Trumps chief of se was
way too open and talking to this reporter for Vanity
(52:03):
Fair magazine. Every now and then, some lefty i mean
lefty shoot off their mouths about everything, but they're usually
pretty good at keeping their mouths shut at certain parts
of their agenda, are certain things they plan to do.
For instance, whoever it was that convinced Joe Biden to
totally open up the border. When Biden ran in twenty twenty,
(52:24):
they were they didn't come up. Joe's gonna get it.
We're gonna open up the border. This comment is made
by Representative Mark D. Sagnier. He's from California. He was
on a podcast and he was asked, you know, in
the twenty twenty sixty elections, I think most people think
it's likely the Democrats are gonna win both the Senate
(52:45):
and the House. No, here's the thing that I can
guarantee you before I get to this guy's comment, The
impeachment hearings will begin the moment they're all sworn in
the House. Control is controlled by the Democrats. They can
and well the hearing on anything and the impeachment hearings
will start. D soigner. The way impeachment works is you
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need to get a fifty percent vote on conviction in
the House, and fifty percent vote rather to impeach in
the House, and than two thirds in the Senate. The
two thirds in the Senate to convict is the hard one.
Who knows, however, how strong the Republican majority in the
Senate will be. Let's imagine they get it to sixty
one or sixty two, and among the Republicans that are
left are Susan Collins. And I'll ask on a couple
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of the moderates, is it theoretically possible that Trump could
be removed from waffas I suppose anyway? D Saigner was
asked by a lefty podcast hoster, is it possible that
you if the Democrats get control in twenty six, they
will impeach both Trump and Vance, which would mean, you
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know who's third in line for president president and vice
president Speaker of the House. It would mean his came, Jeffries,
would become the president of the United States. Now, the
safeguard against this is if you would convict and impeach
and convict Vance gets in and he would immediately try
to name his replacements, so you don't have a vacancy,
and the vice president so fall to the speaker. But
there's a problem with this. The vice president needs to
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be confirmed by the Senate. They could theoretically impeach Trump,
begin impeachment processes and remove Trump, be in impeachment processes
on vans, and not confirm Vance's nominee to replace himself
as vice president. So that that position is vacant and
then remove him. As I say, it seems farfetched, and
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I think it's farfetched, but this guy was asked, Yeah,
it's possible, we'll do that, and don't think for a
moment if they thought they could pull it off, they
wouldn't remember. These are the people that say we're out
there defending democracy. They couldn't care less about democracy. They
would just assume repudiate democracy in order to put themselves
back in the power. That's it for today's podcast, But
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never fear the next one will be number one hundred.
It was a few that you have to come it
almost because you put the number right out of the thing.
Number one hundred is the next one. That's not a
chill drop tomorrow and talk to you dad.
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