December 4, 2025 • 11 mins
Entering the final Week of the CFB season, many teams across the conferences scramble to secure a playoff spot. Reviewing the current rankings and the playoff model set for the 2025 CFB Championship, Trey Wallace, senior reporter for Outkick, joins Dan and Cole to weigh out a few possible outcomes for a couple of teams on the brink of making contention.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We also got our great slates of conference championship games
(00:03):
this weekend in college football and cole that's what we're
going to talk about right now.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Trey Wallace from Alkick dot com joins us you might
give a fall on social media at Trey Wallace Underscore
and Trey, I'm gonna start off pretty early and pretty
easy as a lot of Texas fans who are wondering
what their fate is. Number one, do the Longhorns have
a shot of going to the college football Playoff? And
number two? Are they being unfairly penalized for losing three games,
(00:28):
including one by twenty five points to Georgia and one
by nine points to Florida. TEENA fish, four and eight.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Good morning guys, on my way to Atlanta to cover
an Xtec championship weekend, and I would say Texas is
kind of in a bad spot right now. They're gonna
need absolute madness to happen this weekend. I probably would
start with you need BYU out of the way. I
(00:57):
think Texas Tech needs to win that by fourteen seventeen points.
I think the lines twelve and a half right now.
Get them by the way, probably have Virginia winning the
ACC title. Don't let the craziness of Duke happen because
(01:17):
then you get two G five teams in the other scenario.
And why I really chose this game in Atlanta, the
SEC title game is because I'm curious to see what
happens if Alabama goes down here and they lose by
let's just say, to two scores, three scores, fourteen, seventeen points.
Does the committee look at Alabama and say, all right,
(01:38):
wait a minute, we can't put this team in here.
They didn't really play well against Auburn. They gotta be
by Oklahoma, you know. So does that knock somebody else
out of the way? Now, I know the conversation would
obviously shift to Miami and Notre Dame, but I think
one would probably get in over the other. So what
I'm getting at is, look, there's I'll hope, But if
(02:02):
I was Texas, I'd have probably took Bacon Vanderbilt up
on their offer to maybe run it back one more
time and see if they could play an exhibition game
to make their strength to schedule a little bit harder.
I just I don't see how Texas gets in, and
I think, and I'm not trying to be the downer here,
but I think the committee is looking at Miami and
(02:22):
really trying to figure out a way to get them
into the College Football Playoff before they're gonna start worrying
about Texas Brother Trey.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Is there any scenario that A and M is not
hosting a playoff game here in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I you would have to get really really tricky when
it comes to Atlanta. I think that so so the
Big Ten title game Indiana and Ohio State. Unless one
of those teams wins by thirty points, they're both gonna
get a first round by and and I guess rightfully. So,
I think that the interesting factor would be what happens
(03:00):
if Alabama wins the SEC title game? Would they leap
into that spot and be able to host?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Now?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I don't. I don't think that could potentially happen, But
I think Texas A and M might be on the
outskirts right now. Looking now, I I think Texas A
and M should should be a team in my opinion.
I don't know if they should have dropped that far
coming off their first law. That's just my opinion, But
(03:28):
I think that we get down to it. I think
the first round by is is probably out of the
picture unless here's the other one, unless Texas Tech gets
out of the way with the loss of Eyu, And then,
like I said earlier, potentially you throw the wrinkle in
to to Georgia, then maybe you got something going there.
But I think that we're lining up to see Texas
(03:51):
A and M potentially hosting a first round game if
a little bit of madness happens this weekend.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Trey wallasonmoukick dot Com, mvall on Twitter. It's at Trey
Wallace underscore. All right, Trey lane Kiffin's off to LSU.
He's gonna have a top ten recruiting class. He mays bad.
He decided to lie on it. There's a lot of
LSU fans.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
You feel one way.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
There's a lot of America and it feels the other way.
So I'm gonna ask you straight on up. Is Lane
kill Kiffen the villain in all of this? Or is
this just the nature of college football?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Unfortunately, it's the nature of college football. But at the
same time, Lane Kiffen didn't do anything to help himself
to become the villain. I mean, that's exactly what it is.
I mean the way that he handled he knew he
would look. We talked to multiple sources about this over
the last seven weeks. I mean, Lane Kiffin was gone
from Oxford guy six weeks ago. Now, if you want
(04:39):
to get into the finality of the situation, when Keith
Carter the ad at ole miss put out that statement,
I guess it was two fridays ago. Now, Lane Kiffin
had already verbally committed to LSU. That was a wrap
that was done. I think that the way that he
handled the leading up to it, he knew he wasn't
(05:01):
coaching in the playoff like that was done. They had
told him that three and a half weeks ago. You
aren't coaching in the playoffs. Sorry now. And it got
a little bit interesting when it comes to the SEC Championship.
If Auburn would have pulled off the comeback against Alabama,
I think I would probably be covering Kiffin in Atlanta
this weekend. I'm not gonna lie now. He might already
be here because of College Game Day, and you know
(05:23):
LSU's gonna try to throw him on as many television
sets as possible. But I don't know how else to
look at Lane Kiffin, right now as the villain of
the old misstep because of everything that went down. I mean, guys,
we're talking about three weeks ago. You had assistant coaches
(05:43):
being polled on where they would like to be at
next year. LSU was one, Florida was one, Old Miss
was one, and then Florida State was another one. So
they had already put this thing in motion. And then
when you catch your offense. So when he met with
Keith Carter on Saturday night in Oxford after the Egg
(06:03):
Bowl this past weekend, he laid out to Keith, all right, look,
if you don't let me come, and this is this
is like his last ditch effort. He goes, if you
don't like me, and I'm paraphrasing here, so don't they'll
gonna crow to crazy on social media, folks. But if
you want me here, or you want to have a
bad situation when it comes to the college foall playoff
without an offensive staff here to help you, you better
(06:25):
keep me through the playoffs. That right there, that's not
really bad with me. I don't don't threaten to derail
these players' seasons by leaving and then also taking all
your offensive staffs with you. And I think I think overall,
like that's where it got bad. I mean, it was
already rough inside the facility. I M not going to
(06:46):
lie to you guys. But at the same time, when
you're trying to screw over your players, man, that just
doesn't sit well with me. And I think at the
same time, that's why you saw a d Keith Carter.
You know, they were supposed to have a pressed for yesterday,
but he held off on that. And what he did
was he did a bunch of media rounds with the
old miss guys, and I thought that was a smart
(07:07):
way to go, and he laid it out like the
leadership guys. I'm telling you like Sunday morning, when Lane
Kiffin said in his press conference on Monday that he
met with the players and ah, the leadership council wanted
them around. No, no, no, no, no. The leadership council set
a trap for him. Lane Kiffin thought that the leadership council,
which is about seven guys, the leaders on the team,
(07:29):
they pretty much they're they're the voice of the football team.
So Skiffan thought that they were gonna go to Keith
Carter and say, hey, we want coach around. You know,
let's figure out a way. No, they went into that
meeting and said, hey, he's got to go. What are
we doing with our with our position coaches. Let's make
sure that they're okay. So like it flipped the script
(07:50):
on Kiffin. He thought he was getting one thing, he
got the other. And then once it was officially done
per se late Saturday night that Pete Golding was gonna
to take over, Kifton was gone. He wasn't arguing his
way out of the Manning Center in Oxford. That was it,
and I think it all. You know, it came to
a head when they decided, all right, well you're gone.
(08:13):
Ten minutes before the team meeting. They walked him out
with an escort, get to the car and head to
the Oxford Airport. And it's a wrap, Like, I just
he handled this very bad. I was in Starkville covering
that game on Friday. I didn't particularly like him going
up to a reporter and talking about it. I don't
know if we can even say this on the radio,
but pretty much turning a person into a housewife. And
(08:39):
I'm sitting there like did that just happen? Like did
he really just do that? He knew the cameras are around,
Like he saw me, he saw five other cameras. So
he just handled it really bad man, and you can't
trust him. And I think that, look, LSU knows what
they're getting in Lane Kiffin. I would advise LSU fans
get ready, there's gonna be some interesting moments. You're I
(09:00):
love him. Lane Kiffin's an enjoyable character, Okay, but there's
a reason why I just said character. He brings the
circus with him.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Cole again, Trey wallacelkick dot Com, join us for a
couple of more minutes. And I mean, do you feel
like a little bit of that though, is like a
perception that that's playing in that Oh, he's the same guy.
He's never gonna change good.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I've said this. I've known Lane for a long time.
There's two different Lane Kiffins. There's a football Lane Kiffin
and then there's the at home Lane Kiffen. And I
think what you are seeing right now is football Lane Kiffin.
What he does on social media, how he handled himself
with the press. You guys all saw the press conference
(09:43):
on Monday, the statement that he tweeted out, you know,
while he was at the Oxford Airport about the board
of playing the Baton Rouge, the interview he gave to
Marty Smith and shout out to my boy Marty for
all the hard work he was doing. That's that's football,
Lane Kiffin. I think that if you put him up
to a lot of detector test and really said, man,
(10:04):
you know, did you believe half the stuff you're saying,
he would fail and he knew he would fail. So
that's how I'm getting at Like there, he he's like
a wrestling promoter, Like he's almost like Vince McMahon, like,
I'm being honest with you guys, like, well, maybe Vince,
if they had not the right person to put out
there be Derick miss Off, that's probably a better one.
(10:25):
He's gonna do everything he can to promote the program,
promote his brand, promote LSU now. And I think he
did a darn good job of that at Old Miss guys,
that he took Ole Miss the levels they hadn't been
at in history. And I think that at the end
of the day, in five years, six years, you know,
I know the exit was bad. I know he left
(10:47):
during a college football playoff run. He's hoping that Old
Miss fans are gonna love him, and I'm just telling
you guys, like this is not going away. And if
I could, I go ahead and put my media credential
in right now that LSU Old Myths game next year
in Oxford, if I could, I've already booked a hotel
for it. So it's gonna be wild and he's gonna
be remembered for leaving a team. And I'll be honest
(11:09):
with you, the perfect storyline for this one, and I
think you will both agree Old Myth goes on a
run and at least plays for a national championship. Not
winning it, but at least plays for a national championship
would be just fantastic.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Half of America. I think he is rooting for that.
Trey Wallace from Outkicking a Fall on Twitter at Trey
Wallace underscore Trey, this is the first and definitely not
the last time I'm gonna have you on. Have a
go address of your weekend. Enjoy Atlanta, and I'll text
you after Alabama beats Kirby Smart for the eighth straight time.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Man, that's just a crazy storyline, right, We'll see, But
I appreciate you guys having me. Congrats on the show.
Keep killing it. And we'll talk soon. Thank you,
We also got our great slates of conference championship games
(00:03):
this weekend in college football and cole that's what we're
going to talk about right now.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Trey Wallace from Alkick dot com joins us you might
give a fall on social media at Trey Wallace Underscore
and Trey, I'm gonna start off pretty early and pretty
easy as a lot of Texas fans who are wondering
what their fate is. Number one, do the Longhorns have
a shot of going to the college football Playoff? And
number two? Are they being unfairly penalized for losing three games,
(00:28):
including one by twenty five points to Georgia and one
by nine points to Florida. TEENA fish, four and eight.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Good morning guys, on my way to Atlanta to cover
an Xtec championship weekend, and I would say Texas is
kind of in a bad spot right now. They're gonna
need absolute madness to happen this weekend. I probably would
start with you need BYU out of the way. I
(00:57):
think Texas Tech needs to win that by fourteen seventeen points.
I think the lines twelve and a half right now.
Get them by the way, probably have Virginia winning the
ACC title. Don't let the craziness of Duke happen because
(01:17):
then you get two G five teams in the other scenario.
And why I really chose this game in Atlanta, the
SEC title game is because I'm curious to see what
happens if Alabama goes down here and they lose by
let's just say, to two scores, three scores, fourteen, seventeen points.
Does the committee look at Alabama and say, all right,
(01:38):
wait a minute, we can't put this team in here.
They didn't really play well against Auburn. They gotta be
by Oklahoma, you know. So does that knock somebody else
out of the way? Now, I know the conversation would
obviously shift to Miami and Notre Dame, but I think
one would probably get in over the other. So what
I'm getting at is, look, there's I'll hope, But if
(02:02):
I was Texas, I'd have probably took Bacon Vanderbilt up
on their offer to maybe run it back one more
time and see if they could play an exhibition game
to make their strength to schedule a little bit harder.
I just I don't see how Texas gets in, and
I think, and I'm not trying to be the downer here,
but I think the committee is looking at Miami and
(02:22):
really trying to figure out a way to get them
into the College Football Playoff before they're gonna start worrying
about Texas Brother Trey.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Is there any scenario that A and M is not
hosting a playoff game here in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I you would have to get really really tricky when
it comes to Atlanta. I think that so so the
Big Ten title game Indiana and Ohio State. Unless one
of those teams wins by thirty points, they're both gonna
get a first round by and and I guess rightfully. So,
I think that the interesting factor would be what happens
(03:00):
if Alabama wins the SEC title game? Would they leap
into that spot and be able to host?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Now?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I don't. I don't think that could potentially happen, But
I think Texas A and M might be on the
outskirts right now. Looking now, I I think Texas A
and M should should be a team in my opinion.
I don't know if they should have dropped that far
coming off their first law. That's just my opinion, But
(03:28):
I think that we get down to it. I think
the first round by is is probably out of the
picture unless here's the other one, unless Texas Tech gets
out of the way with the loss of Eyu, And then,
like I said earlier, potentially you throw the wrinkle in
to to Georgia, then maybe you got something going there.
But I think that we're lining up to see Texas
(03:51):
A and M potentially hosting a first round game if
a little bit of madness happens this weekend.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Trey wallasonmoukick dot Com, mvall on Twitter. It's at Trey
Wallace underscore. All right, Trey lane Kiffin's off to LSU.
He's gonna have a top ten recruiting class. He mays bad.
He decided to lie on it. There's a lot of
LSU fans.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
You feel one way.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
There's a lot of America and it feels the other way.
So I'm gonna ask you straight on up. Is Lane
kill Kiffen the villain in all of this? Or is
this just the nature of college football?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Unfortunately, it's the nature of college football. But at the
same time, Lane Kiffen didn't do anything to help himself
to become the villain. I mean, that's exactly what it is.
I mean the way that he handled he knew he
would look. We talked to multiple sources about this over
the last seven weeks. I mean, Lane Kiffin was gone
from Oxford guy six weeks ago. Now, if you want
(04:39):
to get into the finality of the situation, when Keith
Carter the ad at ole miss put out that statement,
I guess it was two fridays ago. Now, Lane Kiffin
had already verbally committed to LSU. That was a wrap
that was done. I think that the way that he
handled the leading up to it, he knew he wasn't
(05:01):
coaching in the playoff like that was done. They had
told him that three and a half weeks ago. You
aren't coaching in the playoffs. Sorry now. And it got
a little bit interesting when it comes to the SEC Championship.
If Auburn would have pulled off the comeback against Alabama,
I think I would probably be covering Kiffin in Atlanta
this weekend. I'm not gonna lie now. He might already
be here because of College Game Day, and you know
(05:23):
LSU's gonna try to throw him on as many television
sets as possible. But I don't know how else to
look at Lane Kiffin, right now as the villain of
the old misstep because of everything that went down. I mean, guys,
we're talking about three weeks ago. You had assistant coaches
(05:43):
being polled on where they would like to be at
next year. LSU was one, Florida was one, Old Miss
was one, and then Florida State was another one. So
they had already put this thing in motion. And then
when you catch your offense. So when he met with
Keith Carter on Saturday night in Oxford after the Egg
(06:03):
Bowl this past weekend, he laid out to Keith, all right, look,
if you don't let me come, and this is this
is like his last ditch effort. He goes, if you
don't like me, and I'm paraphrasing here, so don't they'll
gonna crow to crazy on social media, folks. But if
you want me here, or you want to have a
bad situation when it comes to the college foall playoff
without an offensive staff here to help you, you better
(06:25):
keep me through the playoffs. That right there, that's not
really bad with me. I don't don't threaten to derail
these players' seasons by leaving and then also taking all
your offensive staffs with you. And I think I think overall,
like that's where it got bad. I mean, it was
already rough inside the facility. I M not going to
(06:46):
lie to you guys. But at the same time, when
you're trying to screw over your players, man, that just
doesn't sit well with me. And I think at the
same time, that's why you saw a d Keith Carter.
You know, they were supposed to have a pressed for yesterday,
but he held off on that. And what he did
was he did a bunch of media rounds with the
old miss guys, and I thought that was a smart
(07:07):
way to go, and he laid it out like the
leadership guys. I'm telling you like Sunday morning, when Lane
Kiffin said in his press conference on Monday that he
met with the players and ah, the leadership council wanted
them around. No, no, no, no, no. The leadership council set
a trap for him. Lane Kiffin thought that the leadership council,
which is about seven guys, the leaders on the team,
(07:29):
they pretty much they're they're the voice of the football team.
So Skiffan thought that they were gonna go to Keith
Carter and say, hey, we want coach around. You know,
let's figure out a way. No, they went into that
meeting and said, hey, he's got to go. What are
we doing with our with our position coaches. Let's make
sure that they're okay. So like it flipped the script
(07:50):
on Kiffin. He thought he was getting one thing, he
got the other. And then once it was officially done
per se late Saturday night that Pete Golding was gonna
to take over, Kifton was gone. He wasn't arguing his
way out of the Manning Center in Oxford. That was it,
and I think it all. You know, it came to
a head when they decided, all right, well you're gone.
(08:13):
Ten minutes before the team meeting. They walked him out
with an escort, get to the car and head to
the Oxford Airport. And it's a wrap, Like, I just
he handled this very bad. I was in Starkville covering
that game on Friday. I didn't particularly like him going
up to a reporter and talking about it. I don't
know if we can even say this on the radio,
but pretty much turning a person into a housewife. And
(08:39):
I'm sitting there like did that just happen? Like did
he really just do that? He knew the cameras are around,
Like he saw me, he saw five other cameras. So
he just handled it really bad man, and you can't
trust him. And I think that, look, LSU knows what
they're getting in Lane Kiffin. I would advise LSU fans
get ready, there's gonna be some interesting moments. You're I
(09:00):
love him. Lane Kiffin's an enjoyable character, Okay, but there's
a reason why I just said character. He brings the
circus with him.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Cole again, Trey wallacelkick dot Com, join us for a
couple of more minutes. And I mean, do you feel
like a little bit of that though, is like a
perception that that's playing in that Oh, he's the same guy.
He's never gonna change good.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I've said this. I've known Lane for a long time.
There's two different Lane Kiffins. There's a football Lane Kiffin
and then there's the at home Lane Kiffen. And I
think what you are seeing right now is football Lane Kiffin.
What he does on social media, how he handled himself
with the press. You guys all saw the press conference
(09:43):
on Monday, the statement that he tweeted out, you know,
while he was at the Oxford Airport about the board
of playing the Baton Rouge, the interview he gave to
Marty Smith and shout out to my boy Marty for
all the hard work he was doing. That's that's football,
Lane Kiffin. I think that if you put him up
to a lot of detector test and really said, man,
(10:04):
you know, did you believe half the stuff you're saying,
he would fail and he knew he would fail. So
that's how I'm getting at Like there, he he's like
a wrestling promoter, Like he's almost like Vince McMahon, like,
I'm being honest with you guys, like, well, maybe Vince,
if they had not the right person to put out
there be Derick miss Off, that's probably a better one.
(10:25):
He's gonna do everything he can to promote the program,
promote his brand, promote LSU now. And I think he
did a darn good job of that at Old Miss guys,
that he took Ole Miss the levels they hadn't been
at in history. And I think that at the end
of the day, in five years, six years, you know,
I know the exit was bad. I know he left
(10:47):
during a college football playoff run. He's hoping that Old
Miss fans are gonna love him, and I'm just telling
you guys, like this is not going away. And if
I could, I go ahead and put my media credential
in right now that LSU Old Myths game next year
in Oxford, if I could, I've already booked a hotel
for it. So it's gonna be wild and he's gonna
be remembered for leaving a team. And I'll be honest
(11:09):
with you, the perfect storyline for this one, and I
think you will both agree Old Myth goes on a
run and at least plays for a national championship. Not
winning it, but at least plays for a national championship
would be just fantastic.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Half of America. I think he is rooting for that.
Trey Wallace from Outkicking a Fall on Twitter at Trey
Wallace underscore Trey, this is the first and definitely not
the last time I'm gonna have you on. Have a
go address of your weekend. Enjoy Atlanta, and I'll text
you after Alabama beats Kirby Smart for the eighth straight time.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Man, that's just a crazy storyline, right, We'll see, But
I appreciate you guys having me. Congrats on the show.
Keep killing it. And we'll talk soon. Thank you,
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