December 1, 2025 • 14 mins
With the hype circling the playoffs and bowl games increasing as we now enter Week 15 in CFB, the coaching carousel doesn't seem to much fade away either following the weekend's recent coaching hires and departures. Taking a look at LSU and the Tigers regarding their head coach vacancy following the release of Brian Kelly, the Tigers usher enter a new era following the acquisition of Ole Miss's current head coach Lane Kiffin. Hearing from a voice who covers all things LSU, Matt Moscona, host of After Further Review on ESPN stationed in Louisiana joins sharing the latest on Kiffin's arrival in Death Valley.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And of course Lane Kiffin, now the head coach at
LSU and a man who knows all about this story
from ESPN one oh four to five. They're in Baton
rouge As Louisiana sports dot Net. He's all over YouTube scone.
You're everywhere like like seriously, like what does that business
card look like for you?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
For for all of the irons that you have in
the fire.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I am hard to miss if you're on the internet, man,
you let me get in your algorithm. I am like
a relentless force.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
And then I mean even bourbon tips too, because you know,
even offline, I've come to you and been like, hey,
you know I'm at this place, what would you recommend here?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Can you the passion?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
That's the real passion for sure? For sure? And you
you live it? Well, my man?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
All right, So just broad question, but you know I
know that there's some answers to it.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
How did this happen? How are they able to pull
this off?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I think verge Osbury LSUJAD deserves a lot of credit.
And you go back and look at how the last
month transpired, where there was a lot of instability around LSU.
You had the governor making the comments he did. You
didn't have a university president, an ad or a football coach.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
It's hard to go.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It's hard to go convince the top tier coach to
take a job when there's no leadership in place. But
LSU did a couple of things. Wisely, Number one, they
stopped talking, which allowed them to work diligently and tactfully.
I think Verge Oustbury did a great job.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Man. He's a name that a lot of people probably
don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Dan but Ford has been part of LSU's athletic administration
for thirty years. He's done nearly every job you can imagine.
He was supremely qualified for the job. And he's also
very well connected. I mean he has a standing phone converse.
He told me he's got a standing phone called Nick
Saban every two weeks. He's known Jimmy Sexton for a
lot of years. Part of the search that hired Nick
(01:51):
Saban and bat and Rouge twenty five years ago.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
So you had a guy that was maybe in.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
A rare position of having relationships to leverage the people
very close to Lane Kiffin, like Saban and Sexton, to
put LSU in his awareness. And the other thing they
did was they were very patient. They told Lane Kiffin
from the beginning, Hey.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Go coach colleg football playoff. We don't need an answer
from you. You're our number one guy. Will wait.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
They were willing to wait till the end of the playoff,
and so I think that removed all of the pressure
of timelines and deadlines and leverage and a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Of things that come into place with negotiations.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
It left ELG vulnerable because if Lane Kiffin had decided
to stay, they didn't really have a good plan B.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
But they really.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Tactfully maneuvered through this whole process over the last month
and really in the last two weeks.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Is when it ramped up.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Two weeks ago today is when Lane Kiffin's ex wife,
Layla was in Baton Rouge, and from that point everything
shifted to LSU and they got it to the finish line.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Matt, Everything is kind of being put together right now.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
You're getting Charlie Wise Junior to get on the plane
with Lane yesterday. Probably the biggest news that dropped earlier
this morning is that Blake Baker's gonna say on staff
he's going to be the defense coordinator, bearing a change
of heart or an opportunity to coach elsewhere. Just the
impact of having the offense that has been the lane
k if An Express that is a top twenty scoring
unit to pair alongside of what Blake Baker has done
(03:12):
the last two years. How quickly can a turnaround actually
happen out in Baton Rouge with link of.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
It at the Helm. It better happened immediately.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I mean, it's listen, Kurtzignetti took the worst job in
college football and has Indiana.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
And the playoffs each of his first two years.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
The nil and portal era allows for a rapid turnaround.
You no longer have to wait through a three or
four year rebuild, and that's going to be the expectation. Listen,
Birge Ausbury when he said that podium introduced as the
athletic director, he said, LSU has to be in the
twelve team playoff.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Every year, and that expectation.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I mean, LSU will never be short on resources, They'll
never be short on talent. This year things went sideways
off offensively, but as you mentioned, the defense was outstanding.
So right now it's retaining this roster. It's finishing off
for a recruiting class which starts on Wednesday, Kiffn doing
in the portal what he does every year starting next month,
(04:14):
and and getting this team ready to go to compete
to be a collegeble playoff team. Look, there's massive questions.
And I'm not saying that that's a slam dunk go
place your bets, but you're asking what the expectation is
how quickly? I mean, this better be a team contending
for the College Fable Playoff next year.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Again.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Matt mascon a ESPN one oh four or five hosts
of After Further Review weekday afternoons there in Baton Rouge
and like I said, all over the place, YouTube, everywhere
in between louisianasports dot Net as well along those same lines.
I mean, just you know, expectations, and we've been talking
about and I think you even mentioned it about you
know what you know Ole miss is doing right now.
(04:52):
That's the expectation every single year at LSU. You've seen
enough LSU football there of believing that he can win
a NASH title. Because is it safe to say that
LSU is one of the few programs, Matt, where talent
is never necessarily an issue. It sometimes comes down to coaching.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I mean, it shouldn't be because what I always say
Dan about about LSU is its greatest advantage is the dirt.
The LSU is the only power for program in the
talent rich state. And I would say LSU, Ohio State,
and Georgia are the only three that can claim that,
I know, Georgia Tech is in George's well, But if
(05:32):
we're being honest, Georgia and Georgia Tech aren't exactly aren't
exactly fishing in the same pond.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
But the point being there are I mean, you throw
it like. The number one.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Player in the country this year is ki named Lamar Brown.
He literally goes to University Lab School on LSU's campus.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Number one player in the country.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
The number one quarterback in the country for twenty twenty
seven is Elijahavin at the Dunham School, ten minutes from
LSU's campus. The number one defensive lineman in the country
this year Richard Andersons at DNA New Orleans. He's a
forty five minute car ride from Lane Kiffin's office. I mean,
it's just look at Maliite neighbors and Brian Thomas and
Odell and Jarvis and Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson. All
those dudes played high school ball within an hour of
(06:13):
LSU's campus. They there's incredible talent here and all these
kids grow up wanting to go to LSU, And so yeah,
I mean, it's always the it's LSH.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
You didn't do anything to earn that. It's just it's
just geography. But it's also the reality.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
And that's one of the reasons why LSU is always
going to have that advantage of building a talented roster
and when they aren't good, when a season like this
happens when you're seven and five, with all the investment,
that's why Brian Kelly's not the coach here anymore, but
similar because of those resources. It's why it's why Lane
Kiffin is the coach now, Matt.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
When you look at it, it's a seven year contract,
ninety one million dollars.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
You just said it.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
And it's very clear LSU with what they have, with
how it just sells itself as a program that not
only has premiere talent in the state, but also because
of what they can utilize in the transfer portal and
Lane Kiffin's willingness to have the transferportal, this should be
a rebuil that happens immediately. What if it's a seven
and five season in year one. What does the pressure
cooker look like for lang Kiffen going into year two.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I mean, I think that's a pretty really obvious to
make it seven and five next year, people are not
going to be happy, man, don't I don't even know
that after his first year, to'll miss you.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Out of seven and five season, a five LAS season.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Well, this first year was the COVID year, So I
don't know that lane Kiffen had a five law season
I'll miss.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
But.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I don't know necessarily to thinking in those terms. The
interesting thing though about Lane Kiffin's contract is I understand
it is how they structured the buyout. And again I
haven't seen the contract. I'm sure we all will all
get it when it's public record, but as I understand it,
the two interesting parts of this deal, which may be
what we see deal structured.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Like moving forward, One is.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
He's gonna have a bonus structure similar to the NFL,
where you have likely to be earned and not likely
to be earned bonuses that will kick him big time
escalators for him. The other is the buyout where if
they win, his buyout will remain large and robust if
they lose, the buyout will start to shrink, so it
gives LSU some protection, but it also has enough incentive
(08:20):
for Lane there if he wins, that twelve million a
year will escalate the thirteen fourteen, fifteen sixteen million, depending
on bonuses and how it all may escalate. So it's
an interesting way to structure it where Lane's going to
get a lot of money up front, but he's also
going to be incentivized and rewarded for winning, and he
won't be rewarded for losing, which is I think the
(08:43):
way things probably should.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Be again ESPN one oh four to five in Baton
Rouge's Matt Moscone luisianasports dot Net host of After Further
Review Weekday afternoons there in Baton Rouge joining us for
a couple of more minutes.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Just the whole rivalry now between LS you and Ole Miss.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I mean, is this one of those Matt that from
LSU side, it's kind of like, all right, that's STEP's cute,
old miss. Like you guys have had a couple of
nice seasons. You're not on our level and we just
proved it. Like this isn't like if they had dipped
over to Alabama in stolen him or Florida or somewhere
else like that. Like this is one of those where
it's clear that LSU showed, hey, we've got the strong
(09:23):
arm here and we're going.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
To use it.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I think it's really hard for Old Miss fans to
accept that.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Probably some of.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
That reality settles in a little bit, but man, LSU
fans are also a positioned where they can empathize with
Ole Miss on this one, because you know, twenty years ago,
Nick Saban left LSU for the Miami Dolphins and he
had won a national championship at LSU. His family loved LSU,
they loved Baton Rouge.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
LSU gave him every resource.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
He needed to stay and win as many championships as
he want, basically to have here the run he ended
up having at Alabama, and he left because he wanted
something you couldn't provide, and I mean LSU couldn't offer
him in the NFL, and it's the itch he wanted
to scratch.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
And so similarly, you look at Kiffin and Old Miss
gave him everything he wanted.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I mean, he was the king of Oxford and they
gave him support at il and everything he wanted but
he also wanted to win championships, not just make a
twelve team playoff, but the opportunity to can peepe for
and win championships. And the analogy I give is or
the comparison is, you know, a couple of weeks ago,
Old Miss played Florida and it was billed as the
(10:35):
biggest game in the history of bought Hemingway Stadium. They
had sixty eight thousand people there, which was the largest
crowd in the history of that program. On the same day,
LSU at five and four played two and seven Arkansas
at eleven forty five in the morning and had more
people in Tiger Stadium than Ole Miss did on the
greatest day in the history of their football program. Like,
(10:56):
that's the disparity and the resources, the buy in, the involvement, everything,
and it's just the two aren't equal. And Lane Kiffin
has done a great job at ole Miss and he's
elevated that program. But I think what Lane kiffen understood
is there's a there's a lower ceiling at Ole Miss
(11:16):
than there is in Baton Rouge, which ultimately is why
he's the LSU coach today. But I'm gonna tell you
next year y'all LSU plays in Oxford.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I will not be in Oxford that day.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I will be watching from the comfort and safety of
my own couch because I don't want any part of
what that's going to look like. Because like I was
in Baton Rouge, I was in Tiger Stadium in two
thousand and eight when Nick Saban came back for the
first time as the coach at Alabama and again and
there was a buffer. Remember I mean he went He
was the coach of the Dolphins for two years before
he went to before he went to Alabama. Like he
(11:49):
didn't leave LSU for Alabama. This is Lane leaving amid
a playoff run in the conference to what Ole Miss
looks at as their biggest rival. Like, I can't even
imagine the vitriol, the anger, the hate. What what Oxford
is going to be like next year when when LSU
(12:09):
goes it's I'll watch it.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I'll watch it on TV.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
So I'm out on it with this because you to
bring it up.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Nick Saban, he did end up leaving and he went
to he went to Alabama when multiple national championships was
able to change the program of LSU for the better,
whether or not we want to say that lang Kiven
was meant to be an ole Miss for the rest
of his career. He changed the program for the better
in your opinion, What is the legacy of Lankiven at
ole Miss?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Well, yeah, he just rewrote it. And I think that's
a that's a talking point that everyone nationally is going
to have and that's something that that he's going to
have to own. But similar with with Saban when he
left l s U and went to the Dolphins, then
went back to back into college and remember Nick got
(12:56):
burned for the whole I'm not going to be the
Alabama coach common But time and winning cures those things.
And so if Lane does have a ten to fifteen
year run at LSU where he wins multiple national championships,
he rewrites his legacy again. But if he burns out
(13:16):
here in Baton Rouge and doesn't win a championship, or
in another three or four years bolts for the NFL, well,
that only continues to add chapters to the legacy of
the guy that was the youngest coach in the NFL
that probably didn't deserve that opportunity at thirty one, the
guy who left Tennessee after one year, the guy that
was fired on the tarmac at usc the guy who
(13:40):
Nick Sabe and basically dismissed before the National Championship game
because he was so distracted. I mean, all those parts
of Lane Kiffen's legacy are in that.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Story for a reason.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
And this is an ugly new chapter the way he's
going to be perceived nationally. But time and winning can
cure those things.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
He's got to go do it. Yep.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
It heals a lot of things, that's for sure. He's
Matt Moscone. Matt moscona again ESPN one oh four five
there in Baton Rouge, host of after further review and
also with Louisiana Sports dot Net scone. You're the best, man.
I appreciate you having a few minutes for us this morning.
I'm sure your phone's been ringing NonStop, man, so we'll
catch up with you again here very soon.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Always have to do a guys, all, have a great day.
And of course Lane Kiffin, now the head coach at
LSU and a man who knows all about this story
from ESPN one oh four to five. They're in Baton
rouge As Louisiana sports dot Net. He's all over YouTube scone.
You're everywhere like like seriously, like what does that business
card look like for you?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
For for all of the irons that you have in
the fire.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I am hard to miss if you're on the internet, man,
you let me get in your algorithm. I am like
a relentless force.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
And then I mean even bourbon tips too, because you know,
even offline, I've come to you and been like, hey,
you know I'm at this place, what would you recommend here?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Can you the passion?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
That's the real passion for sure? For sure? And you
you live it? Well, my man?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
All right, So just broad question, but you know I
know that there's some answers to it.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
How did this happen? How are they able to pull
this off?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I think verge Osbury LSUJAD deserves a lot of credit.
And you go back and look at how the last
month transpired, where there was a lot of instability around LSU.
You had the governor making the comments he did. You
didn't have a university president, an ad or a football coach.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
It's hard to go.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It's hard to go convince the top tier coach to
take a job when there's no leadership in place. But
LSU did a couple of things. Wisely, Number one, they
stopped talking, which allowed them to work diligently and tactfully.
I think Verge Oustbury did a great job.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Man. He's a name that a lot of people probably
don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Dan but Ford has been part of LSU's athletic administration
for thirty years. He's done nearly every job you can imagine.
He was supremely qualified for the job. And he's also
very well connected. I mean he has a standing phone converse.
He told me he's got a standing phone called Nick
Saban every two weeks. He's known Jimmy Sexton for a
lot of years. Part of the search that hired Nick
(01:51):
Saban and bat and Rouge twenty five years ago.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
So you had a guy that was maybe in.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
A rare position of having relationships to leverage the people
very close to Lane Kiffin, like Saban and Sexton, to
put LSU in his awareness. And the other thing they
did was they were very patient. They told Lane Kiffin
from the beginning, Hey.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Go coach colleg football playoff. We don't need an answer
from you. You're our number one guy. Will wait.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
They were willing to wait till the end of the playoff,
and so I think that removed all of the pressure
of timelines and deadlines and leverage and a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Of things that come into place with negotiations.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
It left ELG vulnerable because if Lane Kiffin had decided
to stay, they didn't really have a good plan B.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
But they really.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Tactfully maneuvered through this whole process over the last month
and really in the last two weeks.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Is when it ramped up.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Two weeks ago today is when Lane Kiffin's ex wife,
Layla was in Baton Rouge, and from that point everything
shifted to LSU and they got it to the finish line.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Matt, Everything is kind of being put together right now.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
You're getting Charlie Wise Junior to get on the plane
with Lane yesterday. Probably the biggest news that dropped earlier
this morning is that Blake Baker's gonna say on staff
he's going to be the defense coordinator, bearing a change
of heart or an opportunity to coach elsewhere. Just the
impact of having the offense that has been the lane
k if An Express that is a top twenty scoring
unit to pair alongside of what Blake Baker has done
(03:12):
the last two years. How quickly can a turnaround actually
happen out in Baton Rouge with link of.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
It at the Helm. It better happened immediately.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I mean, it's listen, Kurtzignetti took the worst job in
college football and has Indiana.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
And the playoffs each of his first two years.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
The nil and portal era allows for a rapid turnaround.
You no longer have to wait through a three or
four year rebuild, and that's going to be the expectation. Listen,
Birge Ausbury when he said that podium introduced as the
athletic director, he said, LSU has to be in the
twelve team playoff.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Every year, and that expectation.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I mean, LSU will never be short on resources, They'll
never be short on talent. This year things went sideways
off offensively, but as you mentioned, the defense was outstanding.
So right now it's retaining this roster. It's finishing off
for a recruiting class which starts on Wednesday, Kiffn doing
in the portal what he does every year starting next month,
(04:14):
and and getting this team ready to go to compete
to be a collegeble playoff team. Look, there's massive questions.
And I'm not saying that that's a slam dunk go
place your bets, but you're asking what the expectation is
how quickly? I mean, this better be a team contending
for the College Fable Playoff next year.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Again.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Matt mascon a ESPN one oh four or five hosts
of After Further Review weekday afternoons there in Baton Rouge
and like I said, all over the place, YouTube, everywhere
in between louisianasports dot Net as well along those same lines.
I mean, just you know, expectations, and we've been talking
about and I think you even mentioned it about you
know what you know Ole miss is doing right now.
(04:52):
That's the expectation every single year at LSU. You've seen
enough LSU football there of believing that he can win
a NASH title. Because is it safe to say that
LSU is one of the few programs, Matt, where talent
is never necessarily an issue. It sometimes comes down to coaching.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I mean, it shouldn't be because what I always say
Dan about about LSU is its greatest advantage is the dirt.
The LSU is the only power for program in the
talent rich state. And I would say LSU, Ohio State,
and Georgia are the only three that can claim that,
I know, Georgia Tech is in George's well, But if
(05:32):
we're being honest, Georgia and Georgia Tech aren't exactly aren't
exactly fishing in the same pond.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
But the point being there are I mean, you throw
it like. The number one.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Player in the country this year is ki named Lamar Brown.
He literally goes to University Lab School on LSU's campus.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Number one player in the country.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
The number one quarterback in the country for twenty twenty
seven is Elijahavin at the Dunham School, ten minutes from
LSU's campus. The number one defensive lineman in the country
this year Richard Andersons at DNA New Orleans. He's a
forty five minute car ride from Lane Kiffin's office. I mean,
it's just look at Maliite neighbors and Brian Thomas and
Odell and Jarvis and Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson. All
those dudes played high school ball within an hour of
(06:13):
LSU's campus. They there's incredible talent here and all these
kids grow up wanting to go to LSU, And so yeah,
I mean, it's always the it's LSH.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
You didn't do anything to earn that. It's just it's
just geography. But it's also the reality.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
And that's one of the reasons why LSU is always
going to have that advantage of building a talented roster
and when they aren't good, when a season like this
happens when you're seven and five, with all the investment,
that's why Brian Kelly's not the coach here anymore, but
similar because of those resources. It's why it's why Lane
Kiffin is the coach now, Matt.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
When you look at it, it's a seven year contract,
ninety one million dollars.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
You just said it.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
And it's very clear LSU with what they have, with
how it just sells itself as a program that not
only has premiere talent in the state, but also because
of what they can utilize in the transfer portal and
Lane Kiffin's willingness to have the transferportal, this should be
a rebuil that happens immediately. What if it's a seven
and five season in year one. What does the pressure
cooker look like for lang Kiffen going into year two.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I mean, I think that's a pretty really obvious to
make it seven and five next year, people are not
going to be happy, man, don't I don't even know
that after his first year, to'll miss you.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Out of seven and five season, a five LAS season.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Well, this first year was the COVID year, So I
don't know that lane Kiffen had a five law season
I'll miss.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
But.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I don't know necessarily to thinking in those terms. The
interesting thing though about Lane Kiffin's contract is I understand
it is how they structured the buyout. And again I
haven't seen the contract. I'm sure we all will all
get it when it's public record, but as I understand it,
the two interesting parts of this deal, which may be
what we see deal structured.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Like moving forward, One is.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
He's gonna have a bonus structure similar to the NFL,
where you have likely to be earned and not likely
to be earned bonuses that will kick him big time
escalators for him. The other is the buyout where if
they win, his buyout will remain large and robust if
they lose, the buyout will start to shrink, so it
gives LSU some protection, but it also has enough incentive
(08:20):
for Lane there if he wins, that twelve million a
year will escalate the thirteen fourteen, fifteen sixteen million, depending
on bonuses and how it all may escalate. So it's
an interesting way to structure it where Lane's going to
get a lot of money up front, but he's also
going to be incentivized and rewarded for winning, and he
won't be rewarded for losing, which is I think the
(08:43):
way things probably should.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Be again ESPN one oh four to five in Baton
Rouge's Matt Moscone luisianasports dot Net host of After Further
Review Weekday afternoons there in Baton Rouge joining us for
a couple of more minutes.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Just the whole rivalry now between LS you and Ole Miss.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I mean, is this one of those Matt that from
LSU side, it's kind of like, all right, that's STEP's cute,
old miss. Like you guys have had a couple of
nice seasons. You're not on our level and we just
proved it. Like this isn't like if they had dipped
over to Alabama in stolen him or Florida or somewhere
else like that. Like this is one of those where
it's clear that LSU showed, hey, we've got the strong
(09:23):
arm here and we're going.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
To use it.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I think it's really hard for Old Miss fans to
accept that.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Probably some of.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
That reality settles in a little bit, but man, LSU
fans are also a positioned where they can empathize with
Ole Miss on this one, because you know, twenty years ago,
Nick Saban left LSU for the Miami Dolphins and he
had won a national championship at LSU. His family loved LSU,
they loved Baton Rouge.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
LSU gave him every resource.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
He needed to stay and win as many championships as
he want, basically to have here the run he ended
up having at Alabama, and he left because he wanted
something you couldn't provide, and I mean LSU couldn't offer
him in the NFL, and it's the itch he wanted
to scratch.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
And so similarly, you look at Kiffin and Old Miss
gave him everything he wanted.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I mean, he was the king of Oxford and they
gave him support at il and everything he wanted but
he also wanted to win championships, not just make a
twelve team playoff, but the opportunity to can peepe for
and win championships. And the analogy I give is or
the comparison is, you know, a couple of weeks ago,
Old Miss played Florida and it was billed as the
(10:35):
biggest game in the history of bought Hemingway Stadium. They
had sixty eight thousand people there, which was the largest
crowd in the history of that program. On the same day,
LSU at five and four played two and seven Arkansas
at eleven forty five in the morning and had more
people in Tiger Stadium than Ole Miss did on the
greatest day in the history of their football program. Like,
(10:56):
that's the disparity and the resources, the buy in, the involvement, everything,
and it's just the two aren't equal. And Lane Kiffin
has done a great job at ole Miss and he's
elevated that program. But I think what Lane kiffen understood
is there's a there's a lower ceiling at Ole Miss
(11:16):
than there is in Baton Rouge, which ultimately is why
he's the LSU coach today. But I'm gonna tell you
next year y'all LSU plays in Oxford.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I will not be in Oxford that day.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I will be watching from the comfort and safety of
my own couch because I don't want any part of
what that's going to look like. Because like I was
in Baton Rouge, I was in Tiger Stadium in two
thousand and eight when Nick Saban came back for the
first time as the coach at Alabama and again and
there was a buffer. Remember I mean he went He
was the coach of the Dolphins for two years before
he went to before he went to Alabama. Like he
(11:49):
didn't leave LSU for Alabama. This is Lane leaving amid
a playoff run in the conference to what Ole Miss
looks at as their biggest rival. Like, I can't even
imagine the vitriol, the anger, the hate. What what Oxford
is going to be like next year when when LSU
(12:09):
goes it's I'll watch it.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I'll watch it on TV.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
So I'm out on it with this because you to
bring it up.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Nick Saban, he did end up leaving and he went
to he went to Alabama when multiple national championships was
able to change the program of LSU for the better,
whether or not we want to say that lang Kiven
was meant to be an ole Miss for the rest
of his career. He changed the program for the better
in your opinion, What is the legacy of Lankiven at
ole Miss?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Well, yeah, he just rewrote it. And I think that's
a that's a talking point that everyone nationally is going
to have and that's something that that he's going to
have to own. But similar with with Saban when he
left l s U and went to the Dolphins, then
went back to back into college and remember Nick got
(12:56):
burned for the whole I'm not going to be the
Alabama coach common But time and winning cures those things.
And so if Lane does have a ten to fifteen
year run at LSU where he wins multiple national championships,
he rewrites his legacy again. But if he burns out
(13:16):
here in Baton Rouge and doesn't win a championship, or
in another three or four years bolts for the NFL, well,
that only continues to add chapters to the legacy of
the guy that was the youngest coach in the NFL
that probably didn't deserve that opportunity at thirty one, the
guy who left Tennessee after one year, the guy that
was fired on the tarmac at usc the guy who
(13:40):
Nick Sabe and basically dismissed before the National Championship game
because he was so distracted. I mean, all those parts
of Lane Kiffen's legacy are in that.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Story for a reason.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
And this is an ugly new chapter the way he's
going to be perceived nationally. But time and winning can
cure those things.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
He's got to go do it. Yep.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
It heals a lot of things, that's for sure. He's
Matt Moscone. Matt moscona again ESPN one oh four five
there in Baton Rouge, host of after further review and
also with Louisiana Sports dot Net scone. You're the best, man.
I appreciate you having a few minutes for us this morning.
I'm sure your phone's been ringing NonStop, man, so we'll
catch up with you again here very soon.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Always have to do a guys, all, have a great day.
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