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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is the morning Drive with Dad and Cole.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
First night of action Alabama and Oklahoma and Cole starting
it off this morning. Two straight days we go the
Rockets where it's one of those As I mentioned earlier
in the week, I mean this has been an inconsistent
schedule for the team where I think what they've played
like three games in like the last like two weeks.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Let's let's speak real, Dan, They're getting ready like everyone
else to celebrate the holiday season, like they're all off
on the track record. They don't know what time it is,
they don't know what city they're in. Because of at
this point of the year, you kind of are just
playing with Hey you're good, No, okay, I guess we're
sitting at home. Hey are we playing in the NBH Cup? Hmm, nope, okay,
just sitting at home. So it's like how we act
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whenever we're going about, you know, trying to plan for
the holiday season. You're out one day, I'm out for
a month. We don't see us Villa Reale for six
days like all that. That's basically what the Rockets are
dealing with right now. We'll get back to normal when
twenty twenty six strikes on it.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
You started before me and Ross. How do you get
a month off? Man? I need that vacation schedule, I
need that sabbatical. Well you gotta remember, man, I haven't
taken a day off yet.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Wow. Okay, So I'm gonna I've compiled all my days
together and I'm gonna get a month's worth off in
a span of a weekend because I realized that the
days didn't follow on over in the twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Six Well, good for you, Good for you. Well yeah,
I mean there is that part of it.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
But the reason we start with the rockets is, you know,
is customary in the NBA the day after you get
the last two minute report, and also with those two minutes,
then if it goes to overtime, then they'll also do
a little bit of inventory on how the overtime went.
So the NBA in the last two minutes said that
the men Thompson away from the ball foul was correct
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in the fourth quarter, which I don't really understand how
that's the case. But in the overtime period, thanks a
lot NBA, they say that there were three incorrect calls
that favored Denver in the overtime win.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
So Basically, what you're saying is, even though people want
to come on and talk about it's seven one three
two one two five seven ninety that while the defense
was terrible at times, the inconsistent shooting in overtime, Hey,
we were right to complain that the officials absolutely screwed
the Rockets.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
The pooch was screwed.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
There's no question about that because according to the last
two minute report, fouls against Kevin Durant, Amen Thompson, and
one that was not called against Tim Hardaway Junior were
all incorrect. For Durant, he was called for a foul
blocking Nicolay Yokich on a shot attempt with about a
minute forty left in overtime, gave the Nuggets a couple
of free throws which put them up one twenty six
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to one twenty one. That was just a couple less
than what the final score would be. Is remember the
Rockets losing that one one eight one twenty five and
then uh with just about a minute left, the Hardaway
shove of Alprin Shingoon should have resulted in a loose
ball foul, and then forty seven seconds left, Denver was
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up one twenty six one two Thompson should not have
been called for a personal foul against Jamal Murray on
a steel attempt, and of course the steel attempt resulted
in a couple of free throws Murray.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Including the one that to allow them to take the lead.
That's it. That's it. So again, I mean, look, you
know the last two minute report.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
It's one of those things that I'm just like, Okay,
what are you going to do about it? Because I
think that we've gotten to the point here where with
the NFL, the NBA, major League Baseball, whoever it is
that I've been on this bandwagon for a long time
and I'll continue to stay on it. Look, if you're
going to affect the game, then you're part of the game.
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So if you're part of the game, you don't get
the protection of a poll reporter in you know, being
able to just answer a couple of questions. I feel
like that there needs to be something in place with
these leagues of no, you affect the game, it's a
crucial call.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Even if you're a crew chief for whatever you are.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Even if you weren't the individual who made the call,
then you need to be up at a podium.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
You need to be talking about it. No no, no, no, no, no,
no no no. We gotta go even worse than that. Dan.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
See, I am a person that is a victim of
the moment, and I'm gonna overreact it every single time
that I can. So my rule has always been this,
if you end up missing a blatantly obvious call, you're
not only suspended for the next week of games, They'll
bring up some other minor leaguers and you could potestually
get set on down.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
You're suspended without pay. You and your entire crew are
suspended without pay.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
And also for the team that you screwed on over,
you're not allowed to call their games for the rest
of the year because of how are we supposed to
know at this point? As Imyodoka said beautifully yesterday, oh
they were starstruck. So what happens the next time that
Denver and Houston meet on up in the Pea.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Or you face off against Victor Webbin.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, I'm in your own division, because let's be real,
they're not taking the win back. They're not taking Oh,
by the way, you guys really didn't deserve this win
because even though they had bad defensive communication, you were
trailing by as much as six going into the final
five minutes of the game. We royally screwed you over
when it came to the calls. So Houston, we're gonna
give you that win. You're never gonna see that happen.
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So they do affect the season because of the bottom
line is that now Houston and Denver, the two teams
that many believe are right there behind Oklahoma City to
be able to have that extra home field advantage game.
You took that away from Houston. You took that away
from the city. You took that away from the organization
that was playing out of its mind in the second half.
You took that away from a team that is as
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talented as Denver, and you just.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Said, uh, are bad, bro.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
So no, you don't get to work for a Rockets
team and a Rockets game for the rest of the
season because I can't trust you now, especially once on
a primetime event.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
The crux of all of this, I think is that,
you know, players, fans, everybody alike, we just want accountability.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I mean that's really where it's.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You know, you can put out last two minute reports,
so you can do all of that, and that's all
fine and good, but it doesn't change anything. And to
your point, and look, I'll give the NFL credit this offseason,
there was accountability. People were fired, people were told you
are no longer calling NFL games. I mean, that was
an embarrassing performance and you clearly aren't good enough to
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be at this level. And look, we do the same
thing with coaches and players. Why aren't we doing it
with other people who, oh, their jobs are really hard,
so are coaches and players.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
What I will say, though, is I just want a
clear understanding. It's like with the college footballlayff comtee. No
one's going to care if your logic is flawed as
so long as it makes sense, as long as there
is a roadmap that says this, why point A, point B,
point C happens and we get to the final results,
I'll push back and I'll call you still an idiot
and that you don't belong in the same spotlight as
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some of these other names. But you're following a blueprint,
You're on a roadmap. You're clearly understanding what is supposed
to be the outline of this game. You don't have
that in any sport where the problem is what is
a catch? What is a third done conversion. How do
we go ahead and look at the line of scrimmage?
What do we look at as an offsides penalty for
an offensive player?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Like, at least keep it all together.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Man, That's all I'm asking for is whatever you decide
to have to be your crux.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Make sure that everyone's on the same page.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Because the problem that you had probably is one dude said,
oh wait, not a foul. Oh but I think it
was a foul. Do we really want to review it
a second time?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Nope? Okay, then it's just a foul.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, As Natalie Sego and jd Rawls were the two
officials that imy Adoka had the largest bone of contention with.
I mean, Zach Sarba has been around for some time.
He was remember on the call of well funny enough
because it involves Kevin Durant.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
What game he screw over? It was? Was it twenty eighteen?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I believe it was when you lost, yeah, Golden State
where Kevin Durant was clearly out of bounds and they
didn't call it and it was a turning in the games. So,
I mean, Zaraba has been a part of playoff cruise.
He's he's a veteran official. He's I think pretty highly
thought of. But how are you thinking highly of him
this morning?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Again, you have three blatantly obvious miss calls and ultimately
that decided on them getting a second chance in overtime, and.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
It kind of quite literally.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Justifies everything he may Dooka said about stargazing last night.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well, and here's the other thing is too, is when
you have a you know, just blatant miss calls like this, me,
you and Wex were hanging out yesterday. We had our
our office Christmas party and White Elephants. You you came
out good, me too, So that was a fun time.
But we're talking with WEX and I go, he's gonna
be getting a fine, And remember yesterday, I said, and
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if he gets dinged by the league, then I think
this is gonna be one of those where the Fertidas
are picking up the tab on that one telling I
may don't even think about it, like don't, don't, don't
even call your accountant, you don't even need to do that. Well, well,
we'll handle LEADIA accounting here. We we got you on that.
But Wex's point was, who says we'll get fined? So
there's criticism of officials all the time, and some are fined,
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some are not.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
So now that we haven't a clear understanding that, hey,
Zach Zarba is the one that missed all three of
these calls and led to the Rockets loss in the
Pepsi Center on against a team that had been really
out of control over the last week.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
It emanok is fine.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I'm telling you who's gonna be paying it A marching
on into Zack Zarber's office, handing him the invoice and gun, hi, bro, hey,
you want me to talk stop talking Matt smack about you.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
That's totally fine.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I get all that pay this twenty thousand dollars fine
out of your pocket that you can't afford. We all
know you can, but just you. At the same time,
you also can't afford to make dumb ass calls the
way that you did and cause.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Us a win.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Well, I mean, you know, it seems like if if
there is a league that has the spotlight on officiating.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
More than any other, it is the NBA.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
And I mean, I think we obviously know why, Tim Donahey,
anyone that I mean this is this has been something
that's been as much a part of the fabric of
them as as long as time has marched on, I
mean major League Baseball. You've got a handful of guys
that you know, as soon as the umpire announcements are made,
you're like, oh, great, Ceebee Buckner's on the thing. Yeah,
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Las Diez is here Exactly. There was a time where
it was Angel Hernandez. Oh, I can't wait to see
how cowboy Joe West makes this about himself.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
To be fair, I did enjoy Joe ron Kolpa and
another one.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
See.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
The problem with Joe West was is that when I
was working for the Astros in their entertainment staff, we
would be able to go ahead and bump into him
from time to time. He was always super nice and
he was very much like a giant kid when it
came to meeting mascots like I think that that was
one of his big time things that he loved, so like,
whenever we were hanging out.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
With Orbit, he was just such a nice dude.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
And then I remind myself every single year the reason
why the Boston Red Sox won the World Series in
twenty eighteen with Joe West in the building was because
if we probably had a little bit too much fun
with him, and instead of going ahead of being nice
or we blew them off. Let's say we're running back
to the alley or something like that, and instead what's
happening is is that probably Joe West want a pitcher
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and we're like, oh sorry, Joe, we got to push
back you. You know what, Mookie Vet's, I'm gonna have
it for you.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
I'm gonna I'm gonna help you out on this one.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
The funny thing is is, I mean, especially in baseball,
that you meet some of these umpires, they're incredibly nice
guys like it.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
It almost is.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Kind of one of those like hey, hey, I don't
want the fourth wall breached right here, like I've still
got to have some animosity towards you. But like a
buddy of mine told me a story about being in
spring training in Arizona one year and they were just
having fun because spring training is always a early relaxed atmosphere.
And I think it was Rob Drake that they were
given a hard time too. And he said that Drake
came over in a funny way, like he wasn't doing
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it combative. He comes over to them because they're sitting
down the third base line and he goes, hey, hey, hey,
I don't bother you when you're working your job at
said fast food or restaurant.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
So why you guys giving me a hard time?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Say you are controlling the narrative of a game that
could ultimately decide does this team go to the World Series.
I'm gonna hold you to a certain standard. Rob or
Joe or Angel or CD. I don't really care which
one of you is out there. I don't care what sport.
It's in the fact that you have the power to
ultimately decide who is going and playing into the next round.
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You probably need to do your job a little bit
better or accept the chritsm that comes your way. I
get criticize all the time. You get criticized all the time.
Your takes are idiot, idiotic, moronic. I can't believe that
anybody would listen to what you have to say. Why
am I going to not give the same amount of
flack and attention to detail watching an idiot call games
who has no idea what he's doing and is weighing
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over his head.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
But Start of the Earth guy, Joe West, that man,
that man, And.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
That was funny too because at that same buddy who
lives here in Houston. You found out that Rob Drake
was gonna be on the umpiring crew for an Astros game.
So then he had a bunch of burgers from said
fast food place sent over and put into his locker
like where it almost like overwhelmed his locker. And he
knew exactly who was from because of the line that
he said to them of, Hey, I don't bother you.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I don't bother you your job here.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
So are you gonna Paul Matt Thomas and not tell
me where this guy worked?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
The guy yeah, oh, I mean he works here in
athletics in the city.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
No, no, no, but you told me the he set all
those burgers. Where was the burger place?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Oh? It was one that's got arches. See.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
But that's the thing is that I don't love their burgers.
I think that's an I think that's an over But it's.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Always a go to though, Like you know, people will
always say that of you know, hey, I don't bother
you at your job at this place. You know, it's
just kind of like, you know, why why do you
giving me a hard time here?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
But at the same time, if I'm setting him McDonald's
McDonald's stuff. Guess what if it's not the French fry
and I'm getting like a dozen burgers, I'm probably pissed
off enough at that standpoint, I'll remember you for all
the wrong reasons, right.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Hangover, Well, I will say that you get you do
get that.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
So see, but the fries are the only thing that
I look forward to. And then the mccrib sandwich, because
it is, of course America sandwich, and everyone needs to
indulge in a McRib especially is it about that chair
over there in that DM especially.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
On a day that we celebrate that Tripoli and I
have decided to call hump Day. So we're gonna have
a lot of fun talking about mcdrup sandwiches. We're gonna
have a lot of fun talking about the Texans. We're
gonna continue to rip the shreds Zach Zarba and his
poor officiating, mundane, idiotic takes. How am I gonna enjoy
the next three and a half hours of a what
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is going to be a fun morning drive with Danicle,
aren't we?
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
See you know when we were so close to having
a just a perfect first segment, we were we were
we were just we were right there You're like the
bartender and land man that you just said a little
bit too much. So then Tommy Norris had to tell him,
you know, you were so close to getting a tip.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, but the beauty of it is you know it's coming.
You just gotta wait for the other shooter drop.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
So I saw that, Tommy, but the guy was playing
his cards right at the time.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, but the guy, the guy knows that Tommy's gonna
stiff him no matter what in that matchup. I'm going
to make sure that I mentioned something that bothers you
because I can see your eyes rolling in the back
of your head and it brings joy to my life.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Early on a hump day.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
It almost turns me blind. That's that's how much the
eyes roll right there.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
So you're almost as blind as Zach Zarba and his
officiating staff.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
The fourth quarter going up against a Denver Nuggets seen too.
That was really out of control and it would have
been the massive win for the Rockets, and they're standings
in the Western EIE.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I do have that in common with jd Rawls and
Natalie Sego for sure. So if nothing else, Now, it's
one of those that for officials, umpires whoever it is
that if we know your name well.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Then that's usually not a good thing.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
They see theirs and Natalie Sara zach' sarba.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Dude, that's the eightieth of them all. That is straight up.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Let's throw on the clown makeup, put on a wig,
squeeze the nose, and go ahead and make me a
balloon animal.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Would you say that? Ain't nobody got time for that? No?
I ain't nobody got time for Thomas.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Ain't nobody got time for Matt Thomas, Zach Sarba, everybody
in between. Ross is off this week, so we can
we can save him from strays. I was get in
a little bit of the Texans the Rockets conversation, as
we mentioned, it's still there. We brought back to so
we got that for you. But Jamar Jordan becoming a thing.
I feel like a major hat tip is owed to
this guy. We'll discuss right here as we're just getting
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going here on a in the edition it is the
Morning Drive right here.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Sports Talk seven ninety The Morning Drive.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
With Dann and Cole on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Home of the Strolls, Rockets, and Houston's best sports talk.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
An issue with Pat McAfee firing up the crowd there
at the old Safego field House whatever they call it
now they're in Indianapolis because of you know, some of
the language that he was using.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
But if you watch sixty Minutes over there house the
woman the pacers, Yeah yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
So but then we found out over the weekend if
you were watching sixty Minutes that John Cougar mellencamp is
and even before Kurt Signetti showed up and Indiana football
got good, that he was a massive Indiana football fan.
He has a shack on top of the press box
there at Indiana's football stadium that was specifically built for
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him and his son to be able to watch the
games together for the express purpose that John is allowed
to smokes cigarettes because obviously you can't do it inside.
And then I'm sure the sweet's probably the same deal there.
So mister little pink howses for you and me can
sit up there on top of the press box at
whatever Indiana's football stadium is, smoke his smoke his cigarettes
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and watch the games. Signett he got there just a
reminder to everybody. This was the losing his program in
college football history. My dad's in Aluma, this school, and
then he loves Indiana and he's always talked about how
it was such a disastrous time when he was a
student there and how they'd never been able to get
the football program right. It's been awesome to see him
actually get to celebrate this moment. But like he told
me stories back in the sixties and seventies when he
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was in college that they would used to sneak mini
cakes into the game and nobody would complain about it
because they're like, dude, we need fans in the sea.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Yeah. John Mellencamps on the shack.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
That's like not even in the top five weirdest things
for Indiana football stories that I've heard.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
He's just ripping grits while he's up there. You're gonna pay.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
You're gonna give us an extra two hundred thousand dollars
in anilials.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Fire the stoke. He's away, bro, Just we'll go ahead
and build you a little cabin up top. Go ahead
and enjoy yourself. It was funny too.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I saw somebody on Twitter even commented they were like,
I've always wondered what that thing was up there, and
now you found out. Yeah, mister John Cougar Mellencamp is
sitting in that shack. So if you see puffs of
smoke coming out, then you know he's fired one up.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
But now if you're John Cougar Mellencamp, you got to
up the anny a little bit. You better be smoking
something good up there, because if you're representing Indiana and
that's a program that's gonna be on the rise for
the long haul, krksonnut, he ain't going anywhere. He's gonna
be the face of that program. He's gonna be the
reason why we're talking about Indiana as potentially the next
big time name in the Big Ten.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
So you got to be able to match the same Annie.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Like imagine if you were like a college suon up
there and you just came butt ass naked going into
that building. You can't do that anymore because you've got
to represent the program.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
They want to care about things.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
It's like, oh, we're already down fifty eight to six,
so who cares if the guy wants to streak on
the field. Now, it's all about setting a standard for
everybody that comes on through.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, they're just like any other school. Really good at
college football. Is now their students actually have to line
up for you know, student season tickets, as opposed to
I'm sure in the past it was just show your idea,
get in the game.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
John Cougar Mella Camp lives in Bloomington accorp into Tommy Thompson. Okay,
so so there you go. He doesn't even have to
go that far.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
He just literally I can walk to the stadium, get
drunk on his way back, or get drunk on the
way there, and just be carried on up to his
little shack. Good for him watching the Who do you
believe do you believe that there is actually like a
better cotton there that where if he passes out drunk
or back in the old days when like the games
were terrible, he could just go ahead and just call
it a night.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
I mean, it didn't look like it had that.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I mean, it looked like it was like exactly what
we said, a shack where I mean he's just you know,
hanging out up there and watching the game. It didn't
look like it was that elaborate of a setup. Like
I'll tell you this from going to AT and T Stadium,
the area where Jerry Stephen and Jerry Junior sit during games.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
You mean basically their second home away from home.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Go right, So the suite that they sit in, it's
not fair big. It's probably about half the size of
this room. And I know most of our audience has
no idea how big this room is, but it's not
a massive sized room to them, Dan, how many people
you think could fit in this room right now? Probably
in this room, I mean probably about I don't know,
ten to fifteen.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
How many people do you think it fit in Jerry's
a small, little humble abode.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Probably about five. I would go even less. I think
it's about four.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah, And that's that's being generously kind because of Jerry's
old ass is going to be able to get a
little bit of a room for maybe somebody else's sneak
gets way on it.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
And then he got Steven right there on the walkie talkie.
He's making up for the body. He's making up for
the body of two people, so it's all good. Steven.
Steven is a big Stevens, a tubby Stemens, a fatso.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
And then you got Jerry Junior, who is a buddy
of mine pointed out a few years ago. He goes,
what does Jerry Junior do? And then I remember like
it was that Sunday night they showed him where Jerry
handed him his glasses. He's Tommy boy, and he started, yeah,
it's pretty much it. Yeah, hey, Tommy, maybe you can
go to school for another seven years and this time
study a globe and I found out why the issue
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is it's going to Columbus. That's because it's going to Columbus, Georgia,
not Columbus Ohio.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
You see these two little letters right here, it's what
it's called the state. Thank you, David Spain. Now back
to the guy it was. It was tr was it
was tr that gave him the guff on that. Yeah,
hold up, who was Roblo's character in that one again?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Paul was his name, and then it was Beverly who
was supposed to be Paul's mom. But then Michelle found
out that, of course, and we all found out that
Beverly was not Paul's mom.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
We've all seen them kissing French. Anyways, back to r
Jordan and making the active rosser.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yes, so ju R Jordan making the active roster, and
that means he'll be here the rest of the way.
Is that either goodbye Nick Chubb or is it welcome
to the life of Braxton Barrios.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
No, that is, uh, we're playing the Raiders and we're
not gonna let you go join another team this year.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Mentality. That's the way I feel about it. This, guys,
what you can do.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
You can go ahead and cut ties with the Jack
of Johnson, You can go ahead and cut ties with
the Braxon Barrios.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
You can go ahead and probably get rid of.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Justin Watson and then move them to the practice squad
so that way they get to be caught on up
three times, while Juwar Jordan gets to be a part
of a team that right now needs to have some
stability with the running back room, and it's not going
to be able to let you go ahead and lose
him to the open market, because that's the problem is
that if he's on a practice squad, anyone can go
and make a claim on him. So you have an
opportunity to go ahead and elevate him to the active.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Roster, and he earned it.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
But I'm looking at this as a We're facing a
two and eleven roster that has no momentum, one of
the worst run defenses in the NFL, and we got
to bang up winning marks and a not so active
Nick Chubb. Let's go ahead and get twenty six a
shot and save our bodies for when we need them
in January.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
The argument could be made.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I understand it's one game, so you don't want to
overreact too much, but juwar Jordan's able to be a
strong contributor to this team. Maybe a little bit of
a head tip to Nick Kyley for being able to
make that happen.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
To an extent. Here's what I will tell you.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
I'll give Nick Cassario a lot of credit for keeping
a guy around when probably he could have been on
the active roster, and you were able to stifle him
away in the practice squad until the right moment.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
So I'll give you credit on that one.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
You know, a six round pick that had incredible numbers
coming out to Louisville, sticking around, not getting picked up
by anyone else, kind of flying under the radar, making
your impact felt.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
I'll give you a tip at the cap.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Nick started his career at Syracuse and Sam Warren, who
of course works for the Houston Chronicle Elite Mustache Fantastic Mustache,
but they were teammates at Syracuse together, so I was
talking with Matt Young as we were about to go
in the locker room on Sunday and he said, yes.
Sam asked, you know, can he do the Juwar Jordan's
story because they were teammates. So of course Matt was like,
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what am I going to tell you?
Speaker 7 (23:50):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yes, like you know you've got the relationship. Of course,
go ahead, go do it.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
That's all. See what happens.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Matt's Matt's an affable guy, Matt, Matt, Matt's very magnanimous,
not our Matt, our ur Matt fits neither of those qualities.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
If it's dirty uncle, old old guy mentality, he's got
all of those for sure, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
And then of course, you know, posting his po boy
photos last night from New Orleans, trying to rub it
in for everybody else here.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
So that's what he does. Do you think right now
he has passed out after spending the last four hours
at Cashata or do you think that he was able
to go ahead and get goodness?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Well, Caesar's right there off of it used to be
the old Heros. Now it's Caesar's off Canal Street.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
By the way. When I was there last season for
the Super Bowl, that was not a fun time.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
For me that Caesar's yea for the wallet or just
in general for the wallet, because.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
If I got, I got basically dare to double down
on every single hit.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
And I had a run where I lost every single
hand by by I was seventeen, it was six, it
was eighteen, it was just seventeen, and it was twenty
and she had twenty one on all three, or she
didn't brust and she had twenty.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
The ones that get me, or like whenever I've got
you know, twelve or thirteen, and it's just it's a
it's an awful hit because you.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
What, does she have a face card up?
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Or No?
Speaker 2 (25:03):
That's the main question, right, that's I mean it is
because you know, if they've got say a six or
a seven up, then then I want her to be
able to draw the bus card, you know, and and
we're able to keep the game moving.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah, but if she is the face card up, I'm
just gonna let her bus. If she has a six up,
I'm gonna have to have that heart to heart conversation.
Do I risk it to go get the nine to
move to twenty one or does she have a face
card underneath them?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Right now, she's already at six.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
It's it's it's Blackjack's version of going forward on fourth down.
It's it's one hundred percent what it is.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
See, but the face card makes it seem like, hey,
we're passing here, like you know what, We'll take the points,
We'll let you go ahead and make a mistake, and
we'll go ahead and capitalize with a turnover.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Always try to capitalize on those turnovers and also to
try to capitalize on a guy on the Texans that
has a superpower, at least one prominent NFL analysts believe.
So we will discuss and let you hear from them
as we continue here on the Morning Drive with Dan
and Coles supports Talk seven. Let's talk standby generators, and
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a freeze is gonna come through.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
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Speaker 4 (27:21):
Do it now while the power is still on.
Speaker 8 (27:26):
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Speaker 4 (27:30):
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Speaker 3 (27:40):
I gotta wait until Monday when Triple E comes on
in Now I'm gonna say, right now, dude, I have
ten holiday cheer beers at home from Shinerbox, so.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I just need the original for this one. Okay, you
did the right thing too, You split one. You gave
one to the big Boss yesterday, Paul Lambert.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
I enjoy brown nosing. That is one hundred percent what
I'm trying to do. That was a good move by you.
It was It was savvy, and.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I enjoy him writing my checks here but here boss,
you bought it.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Anyways, Let's share one together and keep keep writing those checks.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Nick's beat the Spurs to win the NBA Cup in
Vegas on.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
I saw that.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I'm very happy about that.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I am because of there have been people in my
dms and over the last I would say probably twenty
four hours after the loss that heard our takes yesterday
about how we blamed officiating, and they said, you cannot
we cannot wait to see if san Antonio takes over
this division and you're gonna have to go play in
at and t S. I was giddy with all the
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delight watching his Jalen Brunson, who left the state of
Texas and made sure the other Solis franchise in this
state is now in a turmoil of misery to go
ahead and beat up and win the MVP of that matchup.
I was beyond excited last night. Oh I slept like
a baby because of it.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Well, good for the Knicks being able to do that,
and as Bill and Katie pointed out, thank you Nix
for doing that.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
CJ. Stroud has a superpower.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
According to NFL analyst and former Texans quarterback Dan Orlowsky.
He was on with the Pat McAfee show yesterday and
he was talking about the Texans quarterback and has said superpower.
Speaker 8 (29:17):
You know, throwing the ball over the middle of the field.
You're usually having to throw one of two ways in
between people from a horizontal perspective, so you got to
throw it with windows that are open before you want
to and close faster than you kind of see them.
So you've got to be able to anticipate, but also
through the right pace of a football. The skill of
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throwing the ball over the middle of the field is
anticipation and it's for me, it's pace a pace of
a football of how fast or harder you're throwing.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
It is a huge deal.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Well, and another thing too, because he was talking with
the crew over there at McFee and he was asked
about throwing over the middle of the field.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
He's like, why is it so much harder?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
And he didn't say it in a condescending way, but
he just goes, well, I mean there's more people there.
He's like, the sideline throws are usually safer because sidelines
are usually one on one or you know somebody is
there for like backup. If you catch it and you
know the first guy misses, then they can bring you down.
But aside from that, you're pretty much in a one
on one matchup at that point. So CJ going over
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the middle of the field, and we've seen it the
last few weeks, even his struggles in the third quarter
in Kansas City, that I mean, he's able to get
a huge third down conversion by doing exactly that off
schedule play, rolling out and then firing a dart that
Jayden Higgins was luckily able to catch to keep the
drive alive.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Look, I'll push back a little bit.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I understand that we can go look at what the
numbers say, and Dan's probably done all the due diligence
and he's just like Adam Wexler and has his research
team pulling up all the notes that you need to
go ahead and make this point factual. But to me,
what's been the major selling point and what's been CJ's
superpower is getting back to the basics of what made
him an elite player as a rookie, which was I'm
not going to force anything. I'm not going to try
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to go ahead and win downfield. The last two games,
we've seen him do more of throwing out of bounds,
guaranteeing that you don't lose yards. You put yourself in
a better situation on third and six, you're able to convert,
and you're able to utilize what you're seeing from the
defense and what it's giving you to attack into the
very next play.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
That to me has been what has that to.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Me, has been the reason we have seen the Texans
having offensive turnaround that they have been, even though there
are some limitations, but they have over the last month,
I would say, become one of the more improved offensive
units in the league.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
And we will have a little bit more for more
lows key, because he had some other good things to
say about the Texans. He caught up with Pat and
the crew over there. Does he even have a name
for like, you know, Tie and like all of the
other people, And what's aj Hawk who is always there
on a screen smoking a cigar.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, you guys are allowed to say whatever the hell
you want and the FCC is only gonna find me.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
That's what you guys are. You're my cronies.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Well, I mean if you watch it on YouTube, then
you can get the whole experience where you know, at
times it'll be drowned out and muted for a good
amount of about five seconds, and then it comes back
and you're like, oh, they said a naughty word.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
You know, when people say that you've failed up in life.
I honestly AJ Hawk is the eputomea that when it
comes to podcasting.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Not true. Oh, I will gladly push back on this.
He was.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
He was probably one of the first at the time
current players that started a podcast on his own.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Sure, But at the same time, what do we see
him every single week?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I mean you see him on McAfee, but McFee was
able to pick him up probably, But what do you
see him do every week.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
I'm just smoking a cigar, hanging out. It's there, you know, smiling,
putting on a backwards hat, throwing on maybe some sunglasses, smiling,
smoking a stoke.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
We'll listening around. Yeah, I totally agree that. Take four
hundred million dollars later.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
A J.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Hawk is one of the most balunted podcasters in the industry.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
And look, you know, you find out who your friends are,
and you know, sometimes too, you need your friends to
be able to give you a hand up, not a handout.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
I would much rather see this be the end of
the era of the J A.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Hawk days on the at mcafe's show, and when he
retires after this year, you sign a mega deal contract
to land Jameis Winston because that would at least be
musty television between him and Pat.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I think that definitely. As we've said, you've got to
have Jamis in this industry. I've I've got to have him.
And then you know, also to Jamis seems like the
type of guy too that will say yes to requests
to come on air, and if that happens, Jamis is
coming on.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Absolutely James Again, I can't stand most player of podcasts.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
I really can't. And it's maybe because it's just not
my cup of tea.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
I will be the religious point zero one on Spotify
listener for Jameis Winston.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Posib And then what you're gonna find out too of
you know, for all of the goofiness that he has
that like once he gets in the you know, just
like football x's and o's, you're gonna be like, wow, man, Jamis.
It's like quarterbacks are not dummies if you if you
play and the stories, Oh no, I mean, and that's
the thing. I mean, that's gonna be his number one
you know, his his number one poll there. But at
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the same time though too, I mean, if you've got
the information to go along with the entertainment, then you're
doing this business right.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Sure, I'll agree to disagree with you when it comes
to how we're going to hear those stories. I don't
care about those stories. I care to hear about, quite literally,
the crab leg story. What happened with him in college?
Who do he hook up with? What was the things
that he did when he was playing in Cleveland, How
did he actually make the jump on over to New York?
What was the reasoning behind joining forces with Sean Payton
down in New Orleans. I know that they had a
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bad blood story. They got a fistfight, and it's not
because of James. Because Jamis ran his mouth and said
something that was profoundly stupid that everyone else in the
locker room laughed at.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Sean did not laugh at it. That's what I'm waiting here.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah, Seawan doesn't seem like he's got much of a
sense of humor, but he is a heck of a coach.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
You can't take that from him.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Speaking of crab legs and anything else that costs money,
if you got tons of it, well, the Texans want.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
To help you on game day.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
We'll talk about that here as we continue on a
Wednesday edition of The Morning Drive with Dan and Cole
Sports Talks seven to ninety. But let's talk the holiday season.
How's your shopping going? Seriously? I mean that's an honest question.
How's it going? I mean, are you about twenty fi
five percent?
Speaker 5 (35:00):
There?
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Ten percent? Maybe?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
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You still got a week, so there's plenty of time
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Do I have enough this holiday season?
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Speaker 6 (36:04):
They are on Morning Drive. Here's Dan Matthews and Cole Thompson.
College football playoff does get started this week?
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
The game that we were talking about Indiana earlier. Well,
it will be the UH Hoosiers taken on the winner
of the game that matters the most to you and
Triple E that of course is the one that gets
it all started on Friday night Alabama in Norman taking
on Oklahoma. So we got some playoff football to look
forward to. When it comes to playoff football, regular season football,
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whatever it is, what are teams really, especially at the
pro level, what do they put in it is pun
intended with the word premium. What did they put a
premium on when it comes to the fan experience suites
in the NBA courtside seats, just the premium seating options.
I mean, that's one of those things of why teams
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get new stadiums. Will A huge reason why they want
to is they want the financial boost from and of
course you know a county or a city saying, hey,
we'll give you a bunch of tax breaks, you want
to build that stadium here, do all that kind of stuff. Well,
we know that the Texans are in that those discussions
right now with Harris County everybody else of are you
going to renovate in ourg stadium or are you going
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to just completely move out of in.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
OURG Stadium any of those things.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
But while they are at INRG Stadium, the Texans announcing
yesterday that they've got new premium options for fans on
game days do tell them. So these options are going
to include a couple of different ones. Approximately forty five
membership is going to be sold to the Lone Star
Ballroom with a four person membership starting at sixty thousand
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dollars an initiation fee of twenty thousand, or eleven memberships
that will be available in the Mclub Blue, which is
starting at one hundred thousand with an initiation fee of
four hundred thousand, and this is ansored by BMW. The
biggest perk of the M Club Blue membership is that
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you have the option on game day to be a
show for two and from NRG Stadium, arriving in a
BMW and using a dedicated entrance.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
This is for twenty thousand dollars per year.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
No, that one is for the membership starting at one
hundred thousand in an initiation fee of forty thousand. So
basically you're joining a really nice country club for nine
days a year at least, and that's not including I mean,
you know it's all obviously, including like preseason and then
of course you know postseason all that kind of stuff.
(38:38):
And then I'm assuming it's not just a hey, you
did that, so we'll just throw in the tickets. No no, no,
no no no no no no no, you're buying the
tickets too.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
See, I'm a sicko, I'm a degenerate, and I am
somebody that loves to watch awkward conversations go on. If
I'm paying one hundred and forty thousand dollars day in Matthews,
I'll tell you the first thing that I'm going to
ask to be a part of that club. When you
release a player, I get to be in the room
and watch. I want to be in the room to
watch them lose their mind and see your dreams came
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to an end.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
I got all this money, I'm paying your check to
get on out of here, and I get to pick
the player that you get to wave.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
You're like between two dudes, Hey, Dale, listen, man, we
got we got a whole lot wide receiver, but we
may need to go ahead and cut the defensive tackle.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Who is it, Jimmy.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
I want to be there to watch Jimmy cry click tail. Well,
I guess you've got the engineer for m Tex oil.
That's that's part of it. That's his name Dale.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Why but why am I firing Dale?
Speaker 5 (39:35):
Well?
Speaker 4 (39:35):
I mean you just is it Dale the one that's
getting released. No, Jimmy's getting released. Oh, Jimmy's getting released.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
So Dale is the one who gets to go and
and and do some voyeurism here gets to watch.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
No. I mean his name was Franklin.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
I just decided to go ahead and think that was
probably a very wonderful name. Well, if you have an
if you have a dumb name like Franklin, you have
dumb night to spend on that type of stodes.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Well, that's that is true.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Rich people do have names that like it's it's almost
like rich people have two first names.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
You ever notice that? Yes, yeah, it's always you know.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Or they have a last thing that is a first
which is even more em Haarrisson Lyngston.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yeah, because that dude's definitely sitting in the Chick fil
A line with me and you after work. No, oh yeah,
he is definitely gonna go out and meet us, meet
it for st at Big City Winks. We're gonna see
him around there.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
There's there's rich, and there's people who don't drive for themselves,
don't make decisions in terms of like bills and you know, hotel, accommodations,
anything else. By the you know for themselves that they
have people who handle all of those things.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
They basically just live their lives.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
So you know what they do for entertainment, They watches
other miserable people suffer.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
That's what they love to do. Their joy is true.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
And the comedian Tim Dillon told us, you know that
one of one of the greatest enjoyments as a poor
person is seeing other poor people being belittled. And you know,
in this case right here, it's if if you've got
somebody that feels like they've got status belittling someone else.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
I'm telling you there are people out there that will
do anything possible just to fire an employee to see
if they can break their spirit.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
I'm telling you rich people get a kick out of that.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
They don't find joy in watching their kids be able
to win sports awards or bring home, you know, a
medal of honor. Now they enjoy watching as the low
life sad sacks that we are as a society.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
We get to get kicked down and they get to
be the one to do it. That's how they get
their kinks off.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
I want to stay away from those people, all right,
So let's continue the Texans conversation because as I mentioned,
you know, Dan Orlowski very high on the Texans, and
he's also continuing to stay very high on this individual.
We'll discuss and have that for you here as we
get into the seven o'clock hour, and coming up later
in the seven o'clock hour, a look at the shield.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
We'll do all of that right here.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
It is a Wednesday edition of The Morning Drive with
Dan and Coles Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
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Speaker 1 (41:50):
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Speaker 1 (42:04):
This is the Morning Drive with Dad and Cole.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Also to our question of the day, we didn't get
to it yesterday, so let's do it now. Cole had
an interesting question. Does repurposing a gift make you a
bad person?
Speaker 3 (42:22):
I say no, because of it's not going to somebody
who gave me the gift. It's going to somebody who
has no idea that these two people are even existing,
but I don't need any in my house.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Well, it's like a breadmaker, though, that you give somebody
for their wedding and then they come back and try
to give it to you as a housewarming gift.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Yeah, but you don't ever give it to the same
part life. Okay, So here's the thing. I got a
gift a few years ago from a family member that
I have no intention of ever using. It's not gonna
be unboxed. It's sitting at the bottom of my pantry.
I know that there is somebody in my life that
is wanting this for Christmas. So I said, screw it.
Save myself some money, save myself a trip to the store.
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Keep me in a position where you're in a gonna
know about it. Hey, Marry Christmas, enjoy this. Get it
the hell out of my house.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Hey Mitch, nice little house woman gift for you. Actually, Frank,
I gave this to you for your wedding. This model.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
No, this exactly? Hey I Hey, hey Max, Yeah, it's
got three speeds. No, damn it. Damn such a great movie.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Okay, do you think okay, to be fair, is he
the best part of the.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
Movie, Frank the tank? Yes, yes, you.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
See, I'm gonna push back and say I actually think
Dean Preacher's the best.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
Part of the movie.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Oh, Jeremy Pivens character character is the perfect rat that
you want to punch, and I think that that's what
makes it such.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
A good Hey, well, hey, look it's Beansy's brother.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
What is it geeee awtime we saw you were second
on a locker?
Speaker 4 (43:49):
Yeah I got out. There was a dumpster. Yeah didn
we lock you in a dumpster?
Speaker 5 (43:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:53):
I got got out. So what are you now? Campus patrol?
Try it. I'm the Dean, uh, the other one that
is the other character in that movie. I think Vince
Spawn's character is mildly underrated. Yeah, Speaker City. He was fantastic. No,
it incredibly it well cast. Just a great movie. Love
love Old School. Every time it comes on it's it's
it's an absolute just nope, nope, but.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Crappy Frank the tank version of myself. By going and
repurposing I give to somebody who has no idea that
they're getting this gift that I'd been sitting in the
bottom of my hamper for two months.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
Discretion. Discretion is the better part of that.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Like, just make sure that nobody knows that you've got
said gift from somebody else.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
My wife knows I got this gift because we got
it together.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Okay, circle the wagons here and make sure that loose
lips don't say sink the ship.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
Yeah, but that's the problem with her, is that she
wants to lay way too much information out to people
when they don't need to be known all the details.
She's very much When I go ahead and I tell
people a story, I gotta let them know every little
nook and cranny of the details that go along with it.
And I've been begging her for the last two years. Hey,
they don't need to know every experience. They don't need
to know what happened when the love walk into the room.
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I don't need to hear it from the perspective of
the dog's mind. And that's us he acts. So now
I'm like, I'm going to Christmas this year and I'm
repurposing a gift, and I am begging her, don't mention
that we've had this sitting in our in our in
the bottom of our accountant for the last two years.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
What does he dooka say, KYP, know your personnel, know
who you can tell and know who you can.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
How am I not supposed to tell my wife? She's
been looking at it for the last year.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
You can sell your wife, But you can also just
be like, now, don't say that this was a repurposed gift.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
But the problem with her is.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
That she says even one little white li like can
lead to a ripple effect that will just destroy all
the sanctity.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
Of a relationship.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
And I'm like, it's not that big of a deal.
I want the thing out of my house and I can't.
I can't return it.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Oh, I mean, and that's that's the thing seven nine?
What exact guy? It's a juicer. Oh that's a good gift.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Yeah, I know, but I don't choice. I've never been
into that stuff. So it's just sitting at the bottom
of my hamper pantry.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Okay, I mean look, And that's the other thing is
too is I mean, you can also flip this on
its side here where you can just be like, look,
you know, we were trying to get rid of things,
so this is something that we're not going to use.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
But then you give that up as a Christmas gift,
and then and your excuses and here's my blatant excuse
I like that as a gift. Here's my blase. I'm
cheap and I don't really want to go out and
spend money. And guess what that's sitting already down there, lumball,
check off a box for grandma.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
There you go, look good juice.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
It goes a long way, you know, being able to
get it fresh squeezed, it's it's it makes a difference,
that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
She's totally gonna use it.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
I just think it's gonna be passed along till it
sits into the bottom of.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
D maybe so maybe. So that's out of my house
and out of my control. So I'm okay with that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
I mean, like, you know, we had the White Elephant
party yesterday, so you could have used it there.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
No, because it was a twenty dollars limit. That was
the problem. Who says you have to give the price out?
Speaker 3 (46:54):
Because trivially, if I was to hand you a juicer,
is the first thing to go, Wow, what a fantastic
twenty dollars juicer?
Speaker 4 (47:01):
How did you find this on the market retail price?
Got it second hand? I mean, what do you what
do you want me to say?
Speaker 3 (47:06):
So you're telling me that now I'm handing down a
hand me down juicer to somebody else that's.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Making your hand doesn't mean that it was used secondhand,
just means that it was in the possession of someone else.
Speaker 8 (47:15):
See.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
But when I think of secondhand, what that means to
me is that they're repurposing a gift to give to
me the arm purposing a gift.
Speaker 4 (47:21):
To get to them. They're gonna think that.
Speaker 8 (47:22):
I used it.
Speaker 4 (47:23):
What if the box was slightly torn in the corner,
you got, you got a clearance? There are nell questions
going on, got parasite questions going on.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
It's all there's so many different ways that you can
couch this. You you could say that you got it
a clearance. I mean, it doesn't it doesn't matter how
you say it. I had a great discount, so yeah,
it was under the twenty dollars. Like what do you
what do you want me to like? I mean, there's
plenty of ways that you can be able to present them.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Okay, to be completely fair, I forgot that we had
the white elephant yesterday until you reminded me, and then
I went to target the guy or twenty dollars gift card.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
Yeah, See that's what I told you.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
If I would have been smart, I just would have
brought the damn thing here and then guess what, somebody
would have walked away with the juicer for the holiday
season and been in fit shape going into twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
I did love that somebody went lazy uncle with it
and they legit gave a card what twenty dollars in it.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
I thought about that. I mean, it's a good move.
I had twenty bucks in my pocket.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
I was like, eh, you know what, let's just buy
a giant bag and then like th repurpose it where
you throw all of the all the like the tinfoil,
and you throw in all the wrapping paper, and like
you tie a rock to it at the very bottom,
and here you go. Yeah, I'll do all of this,
just make it big box, big box, big box, and
then oh, here's twenty bucks.
Speaker 4 (48:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
I would have spent twenty bucks though on the material,
just to give away twenty I didn't.
Speaker 4 (48:35):
I didn't. I didn't have my eye on the snuggie.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
So that was one that whoever got that one, they
were safe from the steel from me on that one.
All right, dan Orlovski again we heard him talking about C. J.
Stroud and the superpower that he possesses of being able
to throw over the middle.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
Of the field.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Well, a couple of weeks ago or even last week,
Dane Olovski talking about the Textans twofold that Nick Kyley
was one of the most improved offensive coordinators in the
league and that this offense was one of the most
improved units across the.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
Board as a whole.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
And he continued that yesterday when he was on the
Pat McAfee show.
Speaker 8 (49:10):
The way that they brought six offensive linemen into the game,
the way that they've gone back to underneath the center,
the way that their young players have stepped up up
in Higgins Kirk is healthy, Nico Collins is dominant, Woody
Mark's running the football. They're not trying to get overly
creative with their run game. You he comes from the Rams,
and I think you're starting to see a lot of
the stuff that Houston's doing has a lot of the
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elements that the Rams have done in the past. The
keeper game, I continue to go to that Matthew Stafford
is running the keeper bootleg game more than anybody in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
C J.
Speaker 8 (49:41):
Stroud is in the top five when it comes to
the usage of booting your quarterback out five or.
Speaker 4 (49:45):
Six times a game. And so we rave about Houston's.
Speaker 8 (49:48):
Defense rightfully, So I've only seen this offense just get
better and better and better.
Speaker 3 (49:54):
Here's the thing that you're gonna have a lot of
people wondering, how is this offense looking better when we're
only averaging two twenty points per game?
Speaker 4 (50:01):
Quality competition is the other thing that you have to
throw in there.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
Because you're supposed to be winning twenty six to nothing
over a Test seed team, winning twenty to sixteen over
a team that has an all Pro running back in
Jonathan Taylor and making Daniel Jones beat you, that shows
you the.
Speaker 4 (50:15):
Signs of progress for your offensive personnel.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
No, it definitely does. I mean, and even being able
to put up forty points against a team that probably
was on par with what you faced against against Baltimore
when you put up forty four in that game, although
with all the injuries that Baltimore had, you could make
the argument that they were worse than the Cardinals, and
you were able to do that on something.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
Yeah, in the matchup against Baltimore because of how many
players were out there. But like let's say that that
was a rematch, and now Lamar does play in this game,
and you do have half of those defensive players out there.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
I sell the Houston wins.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
I think they probably win something along the lines of
twenty four to thirteen, twenty four to seventeen, but still
twenty four points against a team that right now does
still have an MVP quarterback, does still have an All
Pro running back, and is going to have to make
massive changes in the offseason. But they're not dead in
the playoff race yet.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Orlovsky continues to as we were talking about the belief
in the Texans yesterday with the CBS crew, well Orlowsky
following suits saying, this team's legit.
Speaker 8 (51:12):
Houston is much more a complete team today than they were,
you know, certainly in the middle of October. And it's
not just about their defense. It's a great unit, but
their offense is very, very good.
Speaker 4 (51:25):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
We've said it numerous times, Cole that this is a
team that you get twenty twenty four points, that you're
winning that football game, and that has been the case
of the Texans this year. They get above that magic
number of twenty, then they're going to win the game.
The only you know, other time than Sunday that they
had a team score over twenty points against them and
they won. The game was against Jacksonville and you had
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to come back from nineteen down. But I mean, it's
just again, you're not asking a ton of this offense.
You're just asking don't turn the football over and also
just give us a little bit and we'll take the rest.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
Can I ask you something? And I want to make
I want to have you mellow on over this? Do
you believe that there is a clear cut favorite for
the team MVP in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 4 (52:08):
The mellowing can happen, the marinating on that can happen.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
You believe though, that there is a clear cut answer
for this? We'll see ninety Who do you think is
the MVP of the Texans? I have a very very
very out of left field but proper take that you're
gonna want to hear when we come.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
Back right here on the Morning Drive Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 6 (52:29):
Back to the Morning Drive. Here's Dan Matthews and Cole Thompson.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
I'm going to go, man, this is tough. I'll go
danil Hunter.
Speaker 4 (52:47):
Triple A, who's your MVP for the Houston Texans? Willy Anderson.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
He was, he was right up there. But I just
I feel like Hunter has had just a slightly better year.
Speaker 3 (52:57):
Both of you, I think have very solid guesses. I
think both of you are completely wrong. The MVP for
the twenty twenty five Houston Texans ky Me is Davis Mills.
Speaker 4 (53:07):
Oh, it's Davis Mills. Let me explain.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
The Texans are sitting coming off a loss to the
Denver Broncos. They lose that game to Jacksonville, trailing by
sixteen going into the fourth quarter. They are now three
and five. There's no more hope. I mean, there're thir
three and six. There's no more hope with this team.
There's nothing that you can look forward to. You're now
asking questions on what do we do long term? Do
we just sit CJ until we know that we just
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can get better draft compensation? Who are some players that
potentially we can row ahead and make sure that they're
not part of our franchise anymore. Who are some names
that we're gonna get bring on out? Do we want
to go ahead and move in towards a higher draft
position because Jacksonville would have two wins over you that
would knock you out of the division race. If anything
goes according to plan, you may end up being a
wild card at best. And that's at best, and other
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teams find a way to crap the bed in front
of you. Davis Mills struggled in the first half. Then
came the fourth quarter and Davis Mills single handedly was
able to catapult this offense into a new direction. He
was able to find three straight scoring drives, including the
game winning touchdown with thirty seconds left, and the entire
aura around the franchise change from that moment on. That
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is the most valuable player because of when the dark
times were about to go ahead and suffocate this franchise,
he stepped up. He delivered. He gave you a performance
to remember. Everyone started to realize we can actually win.
We know that we just got to get the bare
minimum from our offense because our defense is elite. You
rattle off of victory on the road against Tennessee, You
ranle off of victory at home with seven sacks in
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the second half against Josh Allen.
Speaker 4 (54:39):
After all that, dude, you just gotta remind yourself.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
People are now clamoring for Davis Mills to keep the
starting job over CJ. Stroud, so CJ knows what the
expectations are. CJ played fine in this first game against Indianapolis.
Speaker 4 (54:52):
He played better than expected against Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (54:54):
He's coming off his best game since being a part
of the Texans in twenty twenty five. Everything lined because
of that fourth quarter with Davis Mills. That means that
he has the most value, that is the team's MVP.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
Well, and it's also too. I mean, he did exactly
what you want a backup quarterback to do. He didn't
crash the car. I mean, you know, it's it's where
you know, if you have to turn to the backup
more often than not, your either your season is done
or there's nothing else to prove, or I mean, the
worst of all of them is exactly what happened here.
Your quarterback got injured, so then you've got no other choice.
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But in this case, I mean exactly what you're bringing up.
I mean, he did all of those things and then some.
I mean, the Tennessee game wasn't great, but the Buffalo
game second half terrible. But at least you gave yourself
enough of a cushion to be able to have a
terrible second half and be just fine. I mean, even
that game against Denver, it wasn't you know, the greatest performance,
and it gave you a little bit of pause of knowing, oh, hey,
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we're gonna have to count on this guy probably for
at least the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (55:55):
That kind of sucks.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
And I mean you were able to count on him,
and he was able to come in and help you
win the games. I mean, I think, if nothing else,
the people who were worried about Davis Mills, the worry
was about when he was with a roster that was
not even remotely as close to as talented as you are,
and you weren't even trying to win at those points.
Speaker 3 (56:13):
I'll pushback when it comes to the Tennessee game because
of the Tennessee game.
Speaker 4 (56:16):
Yes, the offense was.
Speaker 3 (56:17):
A knemick at best for most of the first half,
and it found some bit of life going into the
third quarter, But remind yourself they were leading into the
final drive thirteen to six. They then had a minute
thirty five left on the clock to get into range
for a backup kicker that was not supposed to be
a part of the long term plans because Kaimi Fairman
was out for this game as well, great completions, being
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able to move the ball down the field. Mills connected
with Dalton Schultz for a thirteen yard gain, seventeen yard game,
Nico Collins seven yard game to Dalton Schultz.
Speaker 4 (56:47):
You got the big run by Woody Marks.
Speaker 3 (56:48):
Good execution I think from Nick Kayley to also understand
your surroundings and cats a team like Tennessee slippin' get
better in the field position, you get Matthew Wright kick
a game winning thirty five yard field goal. The defense
made this more complicated than it had to be. Where
Davis Mills was the reason why you were leading by
a touchdown going into the final three minutes.
Speaker 2 (57:07):
He was incredibly timely, I think is the best way
to kind of wrap it. I mean, it's just he was,
you know, not incredibly I wouldn't say he wasn't incredibly
overly aggressive.
Speaker 4 (57:20):
He wasn't reckless whatsoever. So that helped.
Speaker 2 (57:23):
And it's also too I mean again, when you're dealing
with the backup quarterback, you're.
Speaker 4 (57:26):
Just telling him, dude.
Speaker 2 (57:27):
I mean, you know how doctors have the hippocratic oath,
you know, cause no harm, do no harm. That that
is the absolute, you know, goal for a backup quarterback.
Don't do any harm, don't put us in don't put
us in a bad spot here, don't turn the ball over.
Speaker 3 (57:42):
They just basically just don't put us behind the eight
ball when we have an opportunity to just get into
the end zone because our defense is gonna be so good.
Speaker 4 (57:49):
We can't.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
Again, you can't ask a defense to be able to
play four straight quarters of elite play.
Speaker 4 (57:55):
They're gonna make mistakes.
Speaker 3 (57:57):
Everybody has to do that, So can you do just
an have to guarantee that one drive is not going
to be a killer, because think about it. The one
drive against Indiana, I mean the one drive against Tampa
Bay that was a killer. It led the Rashad White touchdown,
It led to Tampa Bay getting the win. The one
drive against any I mean Jacksonville on the road for
the forty six yard game of Brian Thomas, that was
a killer. Your defense did everything possible. Your offense couldn't
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give you a cushion. Davis Mills at least gave the
Texans offense a cushion to where it felt like, as
long as we get the ball last, we're not losing
to any mediocre franchise.
Speaker 2 (58:28):
Someone three, two, two, five seven ninety the number to
get in. Roger wants to wig in.
Speaker 9 (58:32):
Good morning, Roger, Hey, good morning tellers. Everybody's h okay
out there on the road game anyway. So yeah, it started,
the improvement started happening right if David Mills uh was
was filling in for stroud Also, Nick Kelly stopped mentioning
around and shuffling around the offensive line. He he stuck
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with a with a group and let him at their
position and let them do be what they what they're
gonna be versus sheffling around here and there. And that's
when we're on that uh, that losing street. We just
couldn't we couldn't sittle on who's gonna who's gonna brock
Wood and who's gonna play where. And in that time, uh,
strouding got injured, and then you know he started to
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settle in with the offensive line, and then he started
to improve that way as well. But he has no
doubt called that, uh that that David Smiller who was
definitely the one that set that calm, that calmness and
and put everybody at ease. And uh, you know, Shout
even said, so you know he's like you know and
everybody in the same way that this guy knows how
to handle a handle a pocket of offensive lineman and
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top him down. And so so I went looking at
that while he was injured, and I guess he took
a little bit of page out of Davis Uist book,
and there you go.
Speaker 2 (59:46):
I would go first, I appreciate Roger. I mean, I
gotta be honest, I'm not even sure I know what
what Roger was bringing up.
Speaker 4 (59:55):
I know when he was bringing up there.
Speaker 3 (59:57):
Listen, Roger is a world listener, so he always gets
to out of the front of the line as long
as I'm running the show. But the bottom line is
that Roger, this is one of your takes to where
I'm gonna have to go back and listen to the
audio to an All twenty two film study, kind of
break down the ins and outs of what you meant,
who were you talking about, why is this important? The
X factor on set conversation, and then make sure that
we go back to the data points that say this
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is why Roger's.
Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
A great caller.
Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Hey, look, I mean I don't think I've said this before,
but I do believe that we do operate this way
or the show of honesty here, and you know, just
when I either don't know or I'm not sure, I'm
gonna say both of those things.
Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
So you're gonna say what's on your mind at all times,
even when you're absolutely wrong, because of your honest about it.
Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Sure, Okay, I mean it's gonna be at least that
I believe is genuine.
Speaker 5 (01:00:43):
I try.
Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
I try to be three things. I try to be present.
I try to be intentional. I try to be gracious.
Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
I try to get you to call into the show
and make sure that I piss you off in some capacity.
That's what I'm here for.
Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Well, although I mean you didn't succeed in doing that
yesterday because I heard at least a couple of times
on Matt Thomas Shit people were talking about points that
you made very good on you.
Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Really they called into the Matt Thomas Show, and Matt
with no co hosts, had to listen about me having
good points.
Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Yeah, they said that Cole brought up some good points.
I was like, okay, I'm proud, I'm proud.
Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
Good for you. He's iroll like listening to this right now.
Let's see that the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Get He's not listening. It's it's fine. I mean he's
he's on the road. Road Matt is a lot different
than rabbit ears Matt when he's here. By the way,
what do you think is the what kind of poe
boy do you think he had last night?
Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
I think he had shrimp. Okay, I have to go
back and look, but I think it was shrimp. Can
I ask you? Because you have more ties to the
Poe boy than I do, Shrimp is in my opinion,
the number one way to go with it if you're
gonna go seafood. Yeah, okay, So what do you think
is the other one? Chicken? Roast beef would probably be because.
Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
You have got to explain the roast beef affiliation with this,
because I've never once heard about a roast beef po boy.
Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
Yeah, roast beef debris. Yeah, it's good stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Yeah, but see that seems like it would be more
so like in a muffa latta. Like I know it's
not because of it's it's not that type of meat,
but still that feels more like a muffa a lot
of type of meat and a poboy type.
Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
No, I'm affalata you're gonna go with like salami and
like ham and like some other things that you're gonna
throw in there and go with the olive spread. That's
that's where you're gonna go with on the muffalata.
Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
What is the type of cheese that they put on?
It always provolone or is it something? Or is it
the olive one?
Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
I think it's provolone. No, it's not the olive top
an odd one. Now I think it's provolone.
Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
I want to make a trip not okay, now, I
want to make a trip over to New Orleans because
I'm I'm praving to po boy. Dude, that's the thing,
Like I always love that. People. Hey, I'm heaving the
New Orleans. Where should I go? Just go anywhere, Go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Trust me, you'll you'll trip and fall into one of
your best meals that you've ever had in your entire life.
Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
So I said this, and I want to give a
lot of credit because of there are people out there
that I've seen be able to make the transition. But
there are a lot of people who are not able
to fit inside of a inside of a small seat.
Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
And there's a reason for it. They're not fat, They're
very well fed. That's it.
Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
I will never call somebody from Louisiana. Fact is, they
have the best food that ever exists. I understand why
you've added the extra palace both both us in New
Orleans us here in Houston. It's the same deal there.
People all the time, Hey, where should I go? Due,
Just go anywhere. Trust me, Text Max, You're gonna find
a great place barbecue. Same deal there, although I mean
I've got my places for both of those.
Speaker 8 (01:03:07):
See.
Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
But like that's the thing I'll push back when it
comes to Houston because there are certain places that I
just want to keep for myself that I don't want
to be I don't want anybody to know about. For
New Orleans, I could walk in on a mom and
pop shop or the biggest name that's in the business.
Both are gonna be exceptional regardless of where you're at,
no doubt.
Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
About It's seven one three, two, one two five, seven
ninety is the number to get in. Let's get into
a little bit of college football because for the life
of me, I have no idea what the hell these
people are trying to do. We'll discuss right here as
we continue. It is the morning Drive, Dan and Coles
Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
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Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Nineties, we're gonna take a look at the Shield. Here
is other things happening in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
But college for television show just a fantastic one. Michael
Chicklists and the crew. I mean, I know as the thing,
but yes, you're one hundred percent right.
Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Yeah, he was the commission before all of those too.
It was a show years ago on ABC. He was
the Davis ben Graham That's who he was.
Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
I don't even know who that. That's the thing.
Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
It's clober in time. I've never seen a single episode
of this Shield.
Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
You're speaking French right now, like I have. I have
no clue what you're talking. No, I mean sure, But.
Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
The ACC is the conference of all of the power
forward and that seems like they're drunk at all times
when it comes to college football. So they announced yesterday
that they're going to roll out their nine game conference
schedule this year.
Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
But there's a catch.
Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
It's going to be a transition year where twelve of
the seventeen schools are going to play nine conference games.
With Clemson, Georgia Tech, Florida State, North Carolina, and Boston
College playing at just eight, these five teams each have
multiple powerful opponents already scheduled outside of the conference. And
I believe, if I'm not mistaken, those schools that I
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just mentioned, they're playing against Notre Dame too, because you know,
Notre Dame's got like that loose affiliation with the ACC.
Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
Yeah, because they decided to go ahead and say, Jim
Phillips defend us over the Miami. That's because that's what
we're supposed to do, because we, you know, take advance
of your crappy teams that are at the bottom of
the barrel.
Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
So and you know the tiebreaker policies are also going
to be announced ahead of next season, So I guess
that that's also one of those of let's release the
schedule and then we'll worry about everything else before. But
my whole thing is is either do or don't. Like,
if you're gonna do this, just do it. Like, why
does everything with the ACC seemingly have to be so overthought? Well,
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you know what the ACC is nicknamed for, right, another
crappy conference. I was not gonna go that far.
Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
I was going so another chaotic conference, because that's all
they have to do is just put out flames left
and right and try to figure out what is the
best course of action for us to ruin our bank
accounts and put Jim Phillips on the hot seat every
five minutes because of that's what it feels like.
Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Well, I mean, I will say this having listened to
him speak before, because previous stop was that ACC's kickoff.
Every single year their their media week, and I remember
one year he was up there at the podium where
he was like, hey, look, you know Carolina and Duke
and basketball doing all of this. It's all fine and good,
but if we're going to be anywhere close to the
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monsters in the room, the big ten in the SEC,
you guys, you guys need to be better. I mean,
because that's the thing is they're a conference that it's
not for a lack of trying. I mean, you add Miami,
You thought that Miami would be better. They have only
been to what like one or two ACC championship games.
Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
They haven't been to an ACC title game they got won,
they have never won an ACC title. So Virginia Tech
also another one that brought Keene that has not been
relevant since their days in the Big East.
Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
And then I mean the two teams that are supposed
to be carrying the weight for you right now, Clemson
in Florida State.
Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
They're both also rans.
Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Like, this is a conference that you know, when Clemson
was rolling and I remember that even had somebody at
the time try to tell me, you know, the ACC
has now passed the SEC. I said, that's not even true. Tomorrow,
that's not even true the next minute from now. That
will never even be true.
Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
No, that is not true.
Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
You have one team that's doing good right now, and
maybe you can throw Florida State in there. Aside from that,
you put this conference up against the SEC. If you
did an ACC SEC football challenge, I guarantee you the
SEC would win overwhelmingly.
Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Out of curiosity, did you say never played for a
conference championship or won a conference championship?
Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
For played? Oh now they played in twenty seventeen. Right,
They've never won one in the ACC. Their last conference
championship came in two thousand and three when they were
still members of the Big East. That's why the U
is not the U anymore. Okay, but I'll push.
Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Back when it comes to that standpoint, because yes, the
branding still for Clemson and the branding for Florida State
and for Miami will give them the benefit of the
doubt and they will try to push them to the
pecking order in the front of the on the front
of the line.
Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
The problem is, and there are two main elements here.
Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
Number one, the ACC has this dumb rule where they
say you're only allowed to play eight conference games. But
because if you scheduled it too far in advance, we'll
call it a non conference game. Because if you want
to know what would have solved a lot of problems,
damn Matthews for the College Football Playoff if somehow Miami
that did go ten and two and was higher rank
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than Virginia got to face off against Virginia in the
conference championship game.
Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
But do you know why Virginia got in over Miami
because of one of.
Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
Their matchups in a loss to NC State, despite being
in the same conference, was considered a non conference loss,
so they only had one conference loss. At that standpoint.
If Miami goes, guess what, Miami beats the crap out
of Duke. Miami beats the crap out of Virginia. They're
now in the playoff. Notre Dame's now in the playoff.
Jamu's sitting at home wondering, Hey, who are we doing?
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What we doing with some bibilly for the next five
years because that's where we are. They make up the
rules as they go along, and then they blame everybody
for not being able to have higher representation. It's like
whenever we have the officiating when it comes to the NBA, like,
I don't care what the blueprint is, I really don't,
but make sure that you all are on the same
page before deciding on what was going to be the
road map to either suckage or stinky of standing on out.
Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
I mean people want to complain about the SEC, well,
I mean look at the SEC now, especially with the
College Football Playoff coming up. Georgia they're always in contention Bama.
Same deal there, A and m they're maybe getting themselves there.
Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
They'll be fine. LSU.
Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
I mean the last few years have not been great.
Two years, I mean, the same deal there. I mean,
it's just the list goes on and on of schools
that you can look at, even the Big Ten.
Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
You look at it, ok, Top time out, time out,
the Big Ten, it's three schools and a bunch of others.
That's where I was going.
Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Is I'm saying that, I mean pretty much, it's it's
Ohio State, Michigan or Penn State. Maybe every once in
a while, I don't know Michigan State will have a
decent enough team, Wisconsin will. But the point is is
that top to bottom, neither of these other two conferences
are anywhere close to being what the SEC is top
to bottom.
Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
Like I got in an argument with somebody who said
that Vanderbilt, because of they are going to be so
pissed off they were left out of the College Football Playoff,
won't be able to show up against Iowa and their
top ten defense. When you have to use the defen
some metrics for the up team time, it shows you
that there are sub limitations for your program.
Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
You're not that good like Vanderbilt. I'm not saying is
supposed to be a world.
Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
Class ass kicker, but you know what I can say,
they are at least making some changes to where for
years we talked about them being good in the trenches.
Now they're good at the wide receiver position. Now they're
creating turnovers. Now they're winning with their sack totals. And
that's the thing is that in the sec DAN there
is a game between wake Forest. Wake Forest went eight
and four this year against a five and seven Mississippi
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State team in the Mayo Bowl and.
Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
The Duke's Mayo Bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
A five and seven Mississippi State is a seven point
favorite over an eight and four ACC team. That shows
you the incompetent difference. People say, oh, well, SEC bias
Vegas is laying it out for you, guys. We're not
trying to be cute here. We really do think that
Mississippi State is almost a touchdown favorite over a team
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that had an incredible season with a first year coach.
Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Well, I mean, having Hawkeyes in my family, I've got
to say that I don't disagree with you about the
Vanderbilt part of it. I can rest assured tell you
that Vanderbilt has no fear of Iowa whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Vandermon is winning that game by forty points like they
are going to absolutely dismantle them. And I can prove
this because what was the When was the last time
that a Tennessee school faced off against Siowa?
Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
Oh was Tennessee? I'm guessing In the music City Bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Citrus bold, but still you're on the right path. Nico Imliyava,
a guy who became a laughing stock during his second
season at Tennessee and also at UCLA, was dubbed the
second coming of Peyton Manning for running rampant against Iowa,
Like that is your calling guard at this point? Oh well,
we like to run the football and we got a
sturdy defense. Okay, that's really cool. I enjoy watching anything
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other than just the same old story. If I want
to live with groundhogs day, I'll just turn on my phone.
I'll just turn on my television and hang out with
Bill Murray for a couple hours.
Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Well, Dave Chappelle said it best when keeping it real
goes wrong, and it seems like that Nico Emil, however,
you save Yeah, there you go that he tried to
keep it real and it went wrong.
Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
So now he's an oblivion out there at UCLA.
Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
All right, time to look at the shield where there's
no two point zero here, a possible lost job, and
love for the league. We'll discuss all of those as
we continue here on a Wednesday edition of The Morning
Drive with Dan and Cole Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Phewn The Morning Drive continues. Now here's Dann and Cole.
Speaker 4 (01:12:36):
It's now time for us to take a look at
the shield.
Speaker 8 (01:12:41):
Here.
Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
So about a week ago, there was the Joe Burrow
press conference that kind of sent the NFL world into
a little bit of a frenzy where he said, look,
I'm gonna keep playing as long as I keep having fun.
Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
I'm just not really having any funds so far, where he.
Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
Said I hate life, there's nothing that brings me joy.
I play for a dysfunctional organization, even though that they
signed all my wide receivers, and I don't think that
I'm ever going to be able to be happy again.
Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Pretty much all of that, it was the quiet part
that was not said out loud. So people started to
wonder if that meant that we were going to have
an Andrew Luck situation point you know, two point zero here,
where Burrow would just say, you know what, that's it.
Speaker 4 (01:13:25):
I've got the heisman, I've got my money. I'm moving on.
Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
I'm not going to continue to get banged up for
an organization that clearly doesn't care enough about winning.
Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
I'm just I'm not going to do this anymore. It's
time to move on.
Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Well, they're going to open up a coffee shop together
named Luck and Joe's Cup of Joe.
Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
Does he have a coffee shop now but doesn't name
Do Luck.
Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
Look like a guy who would be running an artisanal
coffee shop out in Palamanto.
Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
He does seem like that he belongs exactly where he's at,
which is back there at the farm as they call
Stanford Well. Diana Russini, of course, who has made some
news this offseason or this season with some of her reports.
She was recently on the Dan LeBatard Show with Stuve
Gott's and her reporting suggests that that's not what's happening.
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That people close to Burrow have told her that he's
frustrated with losing some of the things that you laid
out Cole.
Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
Burrow doesn't respond to calls or text much.
Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
He's notoriously private, but those close to him told Rassini
that he's actually been communicating more since returning from the
turf toe injury, and during his recovery he shut everyone
out to focus on getting back. Rassini pointed out that
Burrow's recovery as evidence that he's not going anywhere. Doctors
estimated that it would be four months since the September
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turf toe injury to come back, but Burrow cut the
cast off himself without waiting on doctors to remove it.
He rehabbed aggressively to get back for Thanksgiving, which, of course,
they beat Baltimore that night, made it back in two months.
Her report concludes that doesn't sound like anyone who is
thinking about retirement.
Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
Oh, he's nowhere near thinking about retirement. I thought it
was absolutely asinine. It was downright disrespectful to say that
a guy who has become one of the pioneers of
the league is gonna go hang up the cleats and
pulling Andrew Luck because of injuries.
Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
I didn't think that way. I mean, the man's built
like a psycho. I mean quite literally.
Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
He plays like he's on percocets and the sheer will
to be able to prove doubters wrong. That's his mentality.
I think he's done in Cincinnati. I think he's making
a phone call out to his agent. Go, there's another
teammate that I had at LSU who's dealing with crap
quarterback play in an inside stadium with an offensive minded coach,
then knows how to get the best version of gunslinger action.
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What is the asking price?
Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
I will pay. I will make sure that they pay
on the penny, even.
Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
If Jay Jennis has got to go ahead and guarantee
that he's paying half the bill.
Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
So the Bengals had to go with a backup quarterback
while Burrow's out, And now it seems like that might
be a choice made by Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel,
as thatdline reads Dolphins coach Mike McDaniel contemplated quarterback change. Now,
the Dolphins got smacked by the Steelers on Monday Night football,
and of course yes day McDaniel met with the media
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and he was asked about to a tongue Vailoa and
his performance. Quote, I think the quarterback play last night
was not good enough. So for me, everything's on the table.
Could we possibly be seeing the beginning of the end
of TUA in Miami?
Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
What are we supposed to say at this point?
Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
Like I'm looking, look, even as my Alabama fandom decides
to go take on over my brain from time to time,
we can call it as is. The guy cannot play
in cold weather, he struggles in meaningful games, and unfortunately
the contract is too immovable to feel like that somebody
is going to bank on him hitting reset elsewhere where
they're gonna be able to live up to the billding
of what is that deal. They don't play with urgency,
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they don't play with consistency, They don't play like a team.
Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
That is in the hunt for a playoff. They went
through the motions on Monday night, and.
Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
Frankly, for as bad as to have played, the offensive
line didn't do him any favors.
Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
Wide receivers were dropping balls left and right.
Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
The defense was allowing guys like Kenny gain Will and
DK Metcalf to pick them apart like it's just the
last pieces of fried chicken that sitting on the table.
I mean, like, that's what we saw from the standpoint
of this team not acting like there's a good leadership
program in there. And you and I both even said,
Mike McDaniel may end up saving his job. I think
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of that loss on Monday and I cost.
Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
Him the job.
Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Well, it's funny too, you know you mentioned about fighting
for fried chicken, because if you listen to ed Ojeron
on Busting with the Boys, he talked about how he
used to fight for chicken and beer with current US
Senator Tommy Tuberville when they were both on staff at Miami.
Speaker 4 (01:17:33):
That's cool. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care.
Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
If you never said Tommy Tubberville's name again, I would
be very happy. When he said he wanted to go
ahead and leave Oxford in a pine box, I quite
literally wish he left college football in a pine box
that day and never saw his face again in the world,
in the spotlight, in the state of Alabama.
Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
Yeah, he made a lot of people angry on the
football field. I mean, if you want to know, you made.
Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
The city a love a question, are we a football
town by leaving to go the G five route during
the middle of a recruiting visit.
Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
Then Cody Campbell came back in and it's all good,
It's all it's all fine and good.
Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
Look, but they made some dark times out and love
it for no apparent reason because Tommy Tuberville said, screw you.
Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
And then after you fired Mike Leach. Real quick here,
Jeremiah Love doing what everybody knew he was going to do.
The Notre Dame running back to clearing for the NFL Draft. Yes,
he will be a top five pick.
Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
Ooh maybe I'm not entirely sold on that, only because
I do think that there is going to be that
positional value to where you see some other people come
on in. I'll tell you what though, Texans, depending on
where they're picking, If you're letting go of Joe Mixon,
I believe that Woody Marks is a great number two.
Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
I think that he is perfect in that role. If
you feel good about your offensive line, are you willing
to trade up to go get Jeremiah Love?
Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Well, the NBA says, yeah, hey, we messed up, but
is it too little too late? We'll discuss right here
forget in what was your question?
Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
Would you trade up to go get Jeremiah Love if
you feel good about the offensive line for the Texans?
Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
If you're Anick Cassario, yes I would, But I'm not
going to feel about the offensive line, so it's a
moot point.
Speaker 4 (01:19:02):
I still want to right it. For Jeremiah Love I
think that he's gonna be better there. That'd be great,
But I'm just saying that I think he is gonna
be better than Ashton jenz And that also includes having
a first round pick, which the Texans currently do, but
knowing the general manager, they probably won't. They also have
two second round picks and a third round pick.
Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
Package it all together to go bring in the kid
from South Bend, Indiana, to go be the bell cow
of your backfield.
Speaker 4 (01:19:23):
It would be nice to see, that is for sure.
Speaker 5 (01:19:26):
All right?
Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
So I was how saying the NBA says that they
messed up. But is it too little too late? We'll
discuss right here as we get into the eight o'clock Cower,
don't forget Mark Passwaters aggieyel dot com. He's gonna hop
all with us here in about thirty minutes. As we
continue here on the Morning Drive with Dan and Coles
Sports Talk seven ninety KB.
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This is the Morning Drive with Dad and Cole.
Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
I just planned your Sunday for you right there. Get
the honey dues, get get the holiday shopping done early.
Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
Oh you play my Sunday for me, Thank you man. Yeah,
that's it. That's what we do.
Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
We're a full service operation here on the Morning Drive.
We get to go to the show of honesty and
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Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
So I get to go to the game, and then
after the game, I get to write about the game,
and then I get to cut up audio for the game,
and then I get to do other things surrounding the
Texans and how this game had no impact on them
clinching a playoff spot because that they're the only team
in the AFC that can't clinch a playoff spot. But
in between then you're also telling me that I can
go find time to go eat and also get a
good nap and before we come back here at six am.
Speaker 4 (01:20:47):
Thank you, Dan for making my plans at three point
thirty in the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
But here's the good news though, And and you know
the legend that is John McLean. I remembered once I
had mentioned about us eating lunch in the team cafeteria,
back when we could eat in the team cafeteria. And
I had said that in an on air spot with
the station that I was with at the time. You
got John mcclan going on and John John McLean afterwards
goes never mentioned that they feed us here because they
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think that we're in we're in on the take anyway,
he used another word, But I was you know, protecting
the innocent here.
Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
Who's the innocent? Triple E is A is a grown adult.
He can handle hearing naughty things on air.
Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
That's fine.
Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
But I mean he just brought up that point. But
the point that I'm bringing up here is that you know,
we're well fed up there in the press box.
Speaker 4 (01:21:32):
Yeah, totally. We're well fed on a hump day too, well.
Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
You are, okay, if it if it involves, if it involves,
bring it up.
Speaker 4 (01:21:41):
That's the point.
Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
If it involves such terminology, then maybe I'll just continue
my intermittent fast today.
Speaker 4 (01:21:48):
You go intermittent fast on a hump take it for
you on intermittent fast on a Wednesday.
Speaker 5 (01:21:52):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
Joor Jordan also signed off the practice squad that the
active roster, and yeah, that happened yesterday and now the
Rockets off one more day as they'll take on the
Pelicans tomorrow in New Orleans. That's what we're talking about
right here, because well, the NBA, as it's customary to do,
if there are calls that are pretty controversial there in
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the last two minutes, they release what's called the last
two minute reports. We've been following the Rockets long enough
to know that that's exactly the case. Well, the NBA
in that last two minutes report, Remember there was that foul,
the away from the ball foul on Tim Hardaway Junior
where they went to replay because he may U Dooka
challenged it because he was just like, come on, you
got to be kidding me.
Speaker 4 (01:22:32):
The guy tripped over himself. What are we doing here?
Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
You guys are idiots that are blind. Can't see even
the front side of your own feet. How are we
going to be able to see the front side of
Tim Hardaway's feed?
Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
And then you know, of course, had Zach Zarbas say
there was a contact by the shin which meets the criteria,
and it's just like, no, okay, sounds like a little
bit of a reach there, Zach, but you do you well.
It extended into the overtime period of course, those final
five minutes, and the NBA reports that there were three
incorrect calls that all favored the Denver Nuggets. There there
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were two fouls by Kevin Durant and a Men Thompson
that had not show that should not have been called
in one that should have been called against Tim Hardaway Junior.
So you benefited twice in this game, as he had
shoved alprinchingoon and it should have been a loose ball foul.
According to the report, the Durant foul was a blocking
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foul on Nikolo Jokic with about a minute forty left,
and that gave the Nuggets star a couple of free
throws there to put Denver up by five one one.
The NBA set on Tuesday, it was a clean block
and then the men Thompson play, Remember was right there
at the timeline, and it was a steel attempt on
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Jamal Murray that should not have been called.
Speaker 4 (01:23:50):
Look, I'm not going to say it.
Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
The Rocket stint shoot themselves in the foot on constant
drives in the second half. They were trailing as by
as much as set nine going into the final twelve minutes.
They add multiple missed opportunities driving to the rim, and
you're going up against an arguably the best player in
the history of the league with Nikola Yokich, who.
Speaker 4 (01:24:07):
Just is a terror to deal with.
Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
He is, like, honestly, just accept the fact that he's
probably dropping a triple double on you every night. Like
you just got to figure out which is the way
you want to have it done with the three pointers,
with the two, with the drives to the basket, rebounds,
block shots. He's gonna get his due, Like, you just
got to accept that. But still, when it's critical moments
like the ones that we saw in the final two
minutes of action and you openly admit that you have
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no idea how to comparatively call a game. Number One,
this goes back to the officiating and what you're doing
in the minors to set up how to become a
better official. People need to check you before they check
you into the game at the NBA level. And number two,
you cost it with the Rockets to win, and you
openly admitted to cost the Rockets to win. So now,
if emai o Joka gets fined, I'm sorry, but that
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officiating crew is the one that's paying the bill. Because
if you are openly saying, oh yeah, guys, we he
has a point, we messed up in this state, in
this in this cinety, So why is he going to
be finalized for that?
Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
I just think that teams, fans, everybody of a like,
they're just they're they're asking for more accountability in situations
like this. And now, I mean I brought up this
example earlier the NFL actually did it. I mean, you
had the Texans last year in that playoff game against
the Chiefs coming out of it and saying, hey, look,
you know, not to blame the refs, but we're going
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to blame the refs. That was something else that we
had to deal with today in the NFL looked at
it and said, yeah, just a bevy of miss calls
all over the place. You you, and you a handful
of officials. You're no longer working this league. That's the
kind of stuff that people want to see. Oh well,
officiating is hard, Okay, fine, so is playing and so
is coaching.
Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
But for me, what this comes back to is it's
the standpoint of you're now costing wins for an organization
that feels like you are supposed to be right there
alongside Oklahoma City, right there alongside Denver. And this may
be a that we come back and look at, go
into April or May, and then they're sitting as the
three seed and you have a one game lead by
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Denver over you.
Speaker 4 (01:26:08):
It's because about officiating.
Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
And honestly, Dan, I don't think many people would be
upset if officiating decide to run with that play.
Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
If they called it all night.
Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
They constantly are tiki tacky, going back and forth, contradicting themselves,
putting themselves in the line of fire, to where people
are going to nitpick and say this is what you're
doing wrong on a regular basis.
Speaker 4 (01:26:27):
And to me, dude, what this really comes down to
is have everyone on the same page, have everyone on
the same game plan.
Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
If everyone understands how you plan on calling a game,
then call it freaking fair.
Speaker 4 (01:26:38):
But you don't do that.
Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
What you do is you decide to go ahead and
get star starstruck by somebody who constantly is putting his
name on the highlight board and you're not calling the
place to the other sideline.
Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
It's just about consistency, man, that's all you want. I mean,
it's kind of like one of those things like you know, hey,
how are they as a person.
Speaker 4 (01:26:58):
They're kind of a d well.
Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
I mean, at least I know what to expect. I mean,
if you're bad, will then be consistently bad. But that
was the thing is that there was no consistency in
terms of how they called this game. It was at
times we'll let you be physical, at times we're gonna
call everything. I mean, it's just like you can't have
you can't have both, Okay, like either decide that you're
gonna officiate this way, or if you are going to
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have us here for an extra couple and a half
hours lay longer than the game normally would have been,
then fine, blow a whistle every five seconds if you
want to, And if that's what you want this game
to beave, then that's what it will be.
Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
At the same time, though, now I just say that
from the standpoint of the Rockets, why are we gonna
go on out and have a play and play with
this officiating staff again if we're gonna get screwed? Because like,
here's here's the way that I would view it, Dan,
I see it in the perspective of you guys have
been making terrible calls all game. You can continue to
make terrible calls. This is your last time that we're
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gonna take the court with you on it in a
primetime matchup.
Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
Because now we feel like that we're being slighted.
Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
What happens if on Christmas we see the same crew
come on out and they're facing off against Luka Doncins.
We know what the NBA probably wants they want to
see Luca drop fifty and they're okay with the Rockets
getting called for a tiki taki foul, but they'll go
ahead and call it against a Rockets team because you
want to why the Rockets are an easy target.
Speaker 4 (01:28:17):
It's not a primetime city.
Speaker 3 (01:28:19):
It's not a major roster in the world of college
I mean in the world of basketball, despite the fact
that they have one of the best stars to ever
play in the twenty first century.
Speaker 4 (01:28:26):
But it's always about the new young kid.
Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
So it's like, how are you supposed to trust that
you're gonna call a game fair when clear as day,
in the critical moments in a matchup that we were
feeling like we were in control, we fought our way back,
we trailed by as many as nine. We've got better
with three point shooting, our defense was able to execute. Oh,
if anything even comes close to looking like it is
even up for debate, you're going to pick the side
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of the team that currently has the number one superstar
in the league.
Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
And that's the way it went on on Monday night
there in Denver, and you're gonna get another chance at
them on Saturday afternoon there in Denver. Of course you'll
hear that game right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.
But I mean it's you know, the NFL, for example,
they want to have full time referees, and people think
that that's that's not really going to change things. Okay, fine,
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you want to make them full time employees, then treat
them like a full time employee. If if you are
at fault here, then you're going to be made accountable
to be able to answer that.
Speaker 4 (01:29:24):
No more pool reports, no more anything like that.
Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
I mean, that's the thing too, is you know you
have to protect these guys why they affected the game.
Speaker 4 (01:29:31):
You affect the game, you step up and you talk.
Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
Jim Joyce years ago, major League Baseball messes up the
Armando Gala Raga perfect game, normally umpires in that situation,
it would just be a poll report. He said, No,
you know what, I messed up this guy's perfect night.
I'll speak to it. I'll talk to it. Get the
reporters in here, I'll talk to them.
Speaker 4 (01:29:49):
Yeah. But at the same time, I think players and.
Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Fans after that, Jim Joyce, what do you think their
respect was with managers and players after that? But I
think at least there are enough people who respected that
he was willing to own up to it, as opposed to, Hey,
here's a published poll report here where no, I made
the correct call.
Speaker 4 (01:30:09):
No, he said I messed up the call.
Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
Screw but Dan on the flip side, what are we
going to see that changes in the standpoint from the
league office? Oh, they're gonna now no longer call a
game against the Denver Nuggets and the Houston Rockets cause
we can't put it up because we know that it
seems unfair.
Speaker 4 (01:30:25):
Okay, what happens. We can take on the King, It's transparent.
Speaker 3 (01:30:27):
It happens to you take on the Wizards like That's
the point is that you're not penalized for it. Jim
Joyce was never the same same umpire again because if
he was constantly going through details and looking at what
were the main elements of making sure he got the
right call. This is gonna be a crew that once
again finds a way to craft the bet against another
high profile Eastern or Western Conference team and they end
up getting just nothing but a slap on the wrist.
Speaker 4 (01:30:49):
Tough, tough, I mean, what do you want me to say? Tough?
I want you to say the tough job. I want
you to say that these officials. Criticism comes with tough jobs.
Speaker 3 (01:30:57):
You're gonna be officiating an NBA game can alter the
status of a team's standpoint in the league standings, for
the conference title, then you better be willing to back
it on up. And if you make a field call,
you're demoted. You are you're sent down to the miners.
You call somebody else on up. Because if you can't
get a simple pick and roll right, if you can't
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see a simple steal being happening, and if you're calling
a technical foul for crap plays, you.
Speaker 4 (01:31:23):
Don't belong here to begin with.
Speaker 3 (01:31:24):
You gotta go back to the miners. You gotta go
hit recent on your brain. Just like when you send
a player down to the minor leagues to go work
on their swing. Send down the miners for these for
these officials, so that way they can learn how to
actually call a basketball game properly.
Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
I mean, look, you're you're the best of the best,
so then expect the best. I mean, that's transparency, that's
all of those things that feeds into that. So I
think that's what the teams wants, it's what the fans wants,
what everybody wants. You want to make yourself part of
the ballgame. I'll call you ballgame, all right, fine, so
guess what. When you're part of the ball game, then
you answer for the ball game, okay.
Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
But if you're answered for the ball game, all you're
saying is okay, cool, my bad, that's it and moving on,
like there has to be some type of penalization for this,
so that way they constantly learn how to make up
for it.
Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
I just I appreciate enough of the two minute report,
but then it's also too it's too little, too late,
and really just nothing much do about nothing. I mean,
it's it's not gonna be the last time this week
that we're going to see something like this. There's gonna
be two more here before Christmas that you'll have where
it's a team that feels like that a call was missed,
and you know.
Speaker 3 (01:32:27):
Tomorrow night, like it won't be in the it won't
be in the Pelicans Rockets game, but there'll be a
game tomorrow to where it feels like this is coming
down to the wires. Somebody is going up for three.
It's a missshot, but oh he just barely touched his finger.
Now he's at the line. He's gonna make two free throws.
They're gonna win the game. Just asking for consistency, that's
all we're asking for you here. That's consistently awful. That's
what we're getting right now. Let's get into the Texans.
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Because Jawar Jordan carving himself out a role, does that
give credit to someone else?
Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
We'll discuss right here. As we continue on the More
Drive with Dan and Cole Sports Talk seven ninety. Don't
forget we'll get into a little bit of college football
Aggie style with Mark Passwaters of Aggie yelp dot com.
He's gonna hop on with us here in fifteen minutes.
As we continue here the Morning Drive, Dan Cole Sports
Talk seven ninety, Dan.
Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
Matthews, Cole Thompson. This is the Morning Drive with Dan
and Cole.
Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Seven one three, two one two five seven ninety is
the number to get in. Cole, I mean, I understand
that it's, you know, some people believe customary for our
job to have, you know, overreactions in this case, because
the proper reaction, and that's that's not the one that
gets hurt.
Speaker 4 (01:33:39):
That's not the one that you know gets it gets
it's it's not the squeaky ye you're talking about the
guy that they just signed the active roster. Yeah, yeah,
Jawar Jordan. So basically what we're saying is.
Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
That Jeremiah Love is going to be a Houston Texan
next year because they have no trust in what he marks.
Speaker 4 (01:33:51):
They have no trust in Nick Chubb.
Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
They believe that Joe Mixon's done, and they're just gonna
ride the hot hand with Jamar Jordan to the close
out the year.
Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
It's not that they don't have trust in them. I
think that they have plenty of trust in them. You're
just asking them to do roles that they're not accustomed
to doing. Right now, I'm being facetious. It's a nothing burger.
But at the same time, you need to have something
stable at running.
Speaker 4 (01:34:09):
Back and they will.
Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
I mean that is going because take a look at
this too that I'll give credit to Nick Serio is
the one area of the team that needed the second
most attention from last year was receiver. All the receivers
that you lost, you had no depth whatsoever. In this
offseason they went and handled that, either through the draft
or bringing in Christian Kirk, who has really tapered off
(01:34:32):
as of late. Braxon Barrio so at least the effort
was there, and I mean, you're getting good production this
year out of Xavier Hutchinson. The running back position will
be addressed this offseason because at least I believe you've
said this that there's the belief that Joe Mixon will
not be here next year.
Speaker 4 (01:34:47):
I believe Joe Mixon has played his last down as
the Houston Texan. That's just me.
Speaker 3 (01:34:51):
That doesn't mean that maybe you can see if he
maybe he retires, maybe they end up parting ways mutually.
I just personally believe after having a season that you
did not knowing your status for over four months throughout
the entire offseason and constantly having to go back to
answering questions of what's going on with Joe, what's happening
with twenty eight? You had a Pro Bowl season last year?
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Are you going to feel good about where you are
in the running game? At some point You're just gonna
be like, the headache was too much, It's just bad juju.
Speaker 4 (01:35:19):
We got got ties. That's the way that I view it.
Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
And I will say I'm gonna die on this take, Dan,
and this would be probably the one that it's like
a gut feeling, right now, in the great words of
Matt Thomas, I have a gut feeling that the Texans
are going to be enamored by what they see in
Jeremiah Love, and if they're able to feel content about
where the offensive line is, that might be the next
player that finally gets Nick Cassario to stop training down
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but trade up for well.
Speaker 4 (01:35:45):
I mean, that's the other part of it, too, is
the offensive line. I mean, you look at it.
Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
Tay Ursery's not gonna go anywhere, Titus Howard's not gonna
go anywhere. You like what you've seen for the most
part out of ed Ingram this year, But I mean,
you know, it pretty much leads from center on over.
Or you can start having some conversations about going to
be able to find some players either on the trade market,
which if that happens, you're probably gonna have to give
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up a lot, or on the free agent side, we're
same deal.
Speaker 4 (01:36:13):
You're just gonna have to pay a lot to be
able to bring somebody in. So that's where you would
go from there.
Speaker 3 (01:36:16):
Let me ask you how to curiosity, how would you
feel about Joe Mixon coming back for another year on
the contract it's nine million dollars. That would be the
angle price for what you have for him, versus trading
away a third round pick for somebody that is probably
gonna cost you about the same. But you know that
they had a good season and they were healthy last year.
Speaker 4 (01:36:32):
The cost is already there. I guess with Mixon is
the way I would look at it, So then you
can go ahead and operate from there.
Speaker 3 (01:36:37):
So my big thing is I go through the draft,
I think that you bring in another veteran, not Nick Chubb,
but somebody along that same realm of let's see if
we can go ahead and revitalize their career one year
three million dollars, if they play up to a certain standard,
you get them for six million.
Speaker 4 (01:36:53):
Okay, no harm, no foul.
Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
On that standpoint, it's a deal that you end up
either recouping the benefits in terms of production or it's
a cost team friendly contract. And then you go into
the drafting you find yourself a secondary running mate alongside
with Woody Marks.
Speaker 4 (01:37:07):
Because my big thing is that I think what he's.
Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
Done an incredible job this year, I really do, and
I think that we have got to give him his
flowers for being able to step on up in multiple games,
But I've always viewed him as a number two. I
think that he's better suited as a pass catcher and
as a third down option, change pace player. If you
can find yourself a number one that can take even
more pressure off of him, you may end up finally
being in that same realm of conversation to what you've
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seen from the Detroit Lions, which is, hey, we got
a thumper, we got a speech star.
Speaker 4 (01:37:34):
We put that together, we're almost unstoppable in the backfield.
Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
I also think that a lot of credit goes to
Nick Kayley for what he was able to do on
Sunday in that game. I mean, I get it, it's
the Cardinals, fine, but still professional guys, still guys that
are trying to earn a check. And usually for teams
like that, it's you know a lot of guys who
are fighting for their careers at a certain point because
a lot of people, you know, just think that you know,
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the multi year contracts are readily handed out in the end.
L No, there's a reason why guys cry on the
cart once they have a bad knee injury, because they're wondering,
am I going to get another shot?
Speaker 3 (01:38:06):
Well, it goes a step further of how many of
this how much of these contracts are front loaded, So
like you sign a three year deal and they're guaranteed
money is all paid up. After one season, you have
a bad year, you don't end up meeting expectations, injuries occur,
and now you're going to be out until week eight
or week nine the next season. There's more than likely
a good shot you're gonna be on the open market
company in the offseason.
Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
And I mean, you know, I think that you know
something else to you know, give credit to Nick Kaylee
for is that we've criticized him for the use of
the run game for much of this season. I mean,
I think you saw the way to use Jawar Jordan
in this game and was able to allow for Jawar
Jordan to go off the way that he did, get
him in space, get him the miss eat, and some
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of that's on Jordan too, but being able to make
sure that he can use that speed and elusiveness and
trying to be able to find a way to scheme
them open.
Speaker 4 (01:38:55):
But what's been the way that you can utilize what
he marks at his best advantages? Same deal outside when
you can get the ball in his hands as a
receiving threat, and then if you're able to get him
to the outside corner, watch him go off to the
races and show that he's more than just a physical
bruiser that can make plays in between the trenches. And
so that's that's been a way to work.
Speaker 3 (01:39:12):
It's been a way to where you feel like it's
not an elite form of play, but it's one that
can be manageable when you have as good as a
defense that sits on the other side.
Speaker 4 (01:39:21):
But at the same time, what I.
Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
Look at is I think that there is going to
be a limitation when it comes to the run game. Therefore,
you got to ask yourself, how can we upgrade this unit.
Is it gonna be by play design with the offensive
line or could it be just by getting a better
option that we can trust to hand off the ball
twenty times a game two at least.
Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
According to CBS Sports, if you're looking for a running
back in the draft after Jeremiah Love, well, then you're
probably going to be looking for guys that either a
kind of fit the profile of the guys you currently
have or be just not as good. Because number two
running back Hollywood Smothers State yes, Yaman Claiborne is the third.
(01:40:00):
An Engaderian Price also from Notre Dame who's five eleven.
Speaker 4 (01:40:03):
T Jadarian price would actually be really interesting.
Speaker 3 (01:40:06):
Is like a third down thumper to me, if you
get him and say the third or fourth round, that
feels like a steal.
Speaker 4 (01:40:13):
That really does.
Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
But also we have a couple guys that are probably
gonna enter the draft are currently in the college football playoff.
Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety is
the number to get in. Let's get in a little
bit of college football here, because the Aggies have a
huge game coming up on Saturday, and a man who
is all on top of Mike Elco's program, Mark Passwaters
from Aggieyell dot com. He's gonna hop on with us
right here. It is the Morning Drive with Dan and
Coles Sports Sox seven ninety.
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Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
Friday nights in Norman, Alabama, taking on Oklahoma also featured
this weekend. The Aggies hosting the Miami Hurricanes.
Speaker 3 (01:41:02):
Mark Passwater from on three dot Com joins us right
here on the Morning Drive, and Mark, I'll ask the
easy question up first for Texas A and m to
find a way to blow this game.
Speaker 4 (01:41:11):
What needs to happen on the flip side for Miami.
Speaker 5 (01:41:15):
Oh, that is a lovely way to start called the morning.
It's fantastic. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:41:20):
I remember I was going to give you congratulations on
the new gig and everything, and instead I get, hey,
how are you going to.
Speaker 5 (01:41:27):
Screw this up?
Speaker 4 (01:41:28):
It was battered Aggie sentom showing on up on Saturday morning.
Speaker 5 (01:41:31):
Boy, I'll tell you what you've brought battered Aggie syndrome
to multimedia. Very nice, very nice.
Speaker 7 (01:41:39):
But I think the biggest thing would be A and
m makes mental mistakes and they turn the ball over.
Speaker 5 (01:41:45):
It's pretty simple.
Speaker 7 (01:41:48):
Miami is a team that takes advantage of opponent turnovers.
They cause a lot of them, especially interceptions, and you know,
I think that would be the biggest issue. If you're
going to go out there and find a differentiator between
these two teams, it'd probably be he turns the ball
over the most.
Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
Mark, do you have an update on l'abyan Moss right now,
his status for this game after missing the last part
of the over the last six weeks.
Speaker 5 (01:42:15):
You know, that's that's the great mystery.
Speaker 7 (01:42:17):
But yesterday at practice we got to see a little
bit of it and he was out there with the ones.
So taking that into account and what Colin Plin said
yesterday during his press conference where he said something to
the effect of I'm looking forward to seeing him finish
this out in style. I'm leaning towards saying he's playing.
(01:42:41):
But I've been thinking he's been going to play for
a month. So you know, you just you're not really sure.
But the indicator, the initial indicators are positive.
Speaker 2 (01:42:51):
Yeah, Mark Passwaters, Aggie Yell part of on three join
us here on the Morning Drive.
Speaker 4 (01:42:56):
Mark.
Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
I mean, it's not the pessimistic view of it, but
it does seem like from Evy Aggie fan I talk
with this year, there is a little bit of wait
and see. So, I mean, I know that Mike Elko
went through the whole thing yesterday about winning the national title.
All right, is the season of bust if we don't
win it? All that kind of stuff, But is it
one of those things that you've got to feel validated
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as an A and M fan. To win this game
on Saturday and at least for you know, progress in
the college football playoff.
Speaker 5 (01:43:24):
I think it would be nice.
Speaker 7 (01:43:25):
I mean, certainly you want to go out there and
continue to move forward, but I think it you know,
actually you you're probably right on it. And the fact
that it's a mental thing, especially with the fan base.
You know, you go out there, you win eleven games
in a row, but then you lose to Texas, and
now everybody, well not everybody, but a decent number of
people think, oh, well, I just can't get excited about
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this because we lost to Texas, which is ridiculous, but
that's how deeply embedded that is. And they you know,
you don't want to go out there win eleven in
a row and then we the last two and you're done,
because that would just bring back the battered Aggie syndrome
and everything else. So for the fan base, if you're
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looking for validation, sure, go out and win this game. Realistically,
go take a look at your recruiting class, to look
at the amount of money Mike Elco has to play
with in the transfer portal.
Speaker 5 (01:44:20):
You're there.
Speaker 7 (01:44:21):
The validation shouldn't be necessary, but in the minds of
a whole lot of people, just because you lost that
one game at the end of November, you've got to
go out and do big things because otherwise you're going
to get laughed back.
Speaker 3 (01:44:33):
I think the one thing that we can all agree
on is that Marcel Reid to begin the season was
a key element to the success. He fought his way
back in the South Carolina game, which was the greatest
comeback in A and M history. The two bad red
zone turnovers against Texas is probably the thing that's embedded
in the mind of most Aggie fans. What's the one
area that you need to see a little bit more
improvement for against a really underrated but dangerous Miami defense.
Speaker 7 (01:44:59):
I think he just needs to get back to doing
what he was doing for most of the season. Go
out there, work your progression. You know, if you've got
to move, move, you know.
Speaker 5 (01:45:08):
He just kind of reverted back to what the mean
was in twenty twenty four in the second half of
that game.
Speaker 7 (01:45:14):
But then he considered everybody else. It was kind of
like they felt pressure that shouldn't necessarily have been there.
Maybe it was just because of who they were playing.
Maybe it was the stakes, whatever. But you know, they
did a lot of things that were out of character,
and certainly the way Reid approached that second half was
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out of character for the twenty twenty five version of him.
Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
Mark Defensively, I mean, we know about Cash as hell,
we know how good this defense has been all year,
and the other part is too. I mean, you know,
Carson Beck is a guy that in games like this
in the past, has struggled. What are they going to
do to try to make life hard on Carson Beck
on Saturday morning?
Speaker 7 (01:45:55):
Well, I asked Elko what you do with a team
that tends to go with the show passing game, And
the response that he gave me was, we want to
try to affect the quarterback. And you know, I think
that's just their game plan in general. They're going to
come after him, and you know, taking a look at
some film last night, what they want to do probably
is get right in his face. You know, it's going
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to be great if you get cash is Howl or
Dan Hayes coming off the edge. But what really flusters
him is when somebody gets in his face. And I'm
sure that I'm not the first person to figure that out.
I'm sure that they are much smarter guys on the
staff that have decided that's also the case.
Speaker 5 (01:46:36):
So I think they're going to try to figure out
how to do just that.
Speaker 2 (01:46:40):
I know that was a dress yesterday with the Delco mark,
But what do you point to for the just kind
of I guess, you know, fumbling finish at the end
of the season where you got to come back and
beat South Carolina, the Texas game goes the way it
did for this team.
Speaker 7 (01:46:58):
You know, that's the the big one, you know, can
you go and flush those I think there was an
element against South Carolina where they're like, this team's just
not very good.
Speaker 5 (01:47:09):
We're on a roll.
Speaker 7 (01:47:10):
And they came out and you know, South Carolina played
a great first half, and A and M helped them
a lot with just horrible turnovers, and then they just
woke up showed what they could really do, and you know,
ran through the second half, and I think, you know,
I honestly do think that the pressure, whether reel or imagined,
got to them, especially in the second half of that
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game against Texas. They just got to go out there
and be who they were, you know, especially in the
middle of the season when they dismantled LSU in Missouri.
Speaker 5 (01:47:41):
You know that team can win a whole lot of
games even in the CFP.
Speaker 3 (01:47:46):
Mark passwater from on three dot com, Aggiel give them
a follow at MBP on three on social media. Mark
This is a secondary that gets to go up against
two elite playmakers and Mario Craver in case of concepcion.
Speaker 4 (01:47:58):
On the regular, they know what they can expect speed wise, but.
Speaker 3 (01:48:01):
There is not a more dangerous player I think on
the field comes Saturday morning than Malachai Tony. So in
your game plan, in your assessment of watching the film,
what makes the freshman out in Coral Gables such a
mismatched nightmare for teams?
Speaker 4 (01:48:14):
And how do you slow him down?
Speaker 7 (01:48:16):
Well, I think the biggest thing is his footwork is
just amazing watching him cut. I mean, you know that
that guy could change direction like nobody's business, and that's
that automatically makes him difficult, especially when they use him
over the middle, and that's what they really like to do.
Speaker 5 (01:48:34):
You know.
Speaker 7 (01:48:34):
I think that if they're going to line him up
in the slot, that's going to be Tyree Chappelle. And
I think that one advantage that A and M has
is you're talking about a guy who's in his fifth year.
He's been a very good cover corner, you know that goal.
And maybe most importantly, this is the guy that Elko
really trusts. This is a guy that they you know,
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they've been together going back to the days when Elko
was a defensive coordinate. So I think that it will
primarily be Chappelle's job, but they'll probably find some ways
to either bring somebody down to help or maybe chip
him or something like that.
Speaker 5 (01:49:10):
Get him off his schedule and in a way that
doesn't doesn't get Jeff Flagg. But you guys know what
I mean.
Speaker 7 (01:49:18):
But basically he's so good at making cuts, you know,
changing directions, but you got to get him off schedule.
If the timing isn't there, then you've got the advantage.
Speaker 2 (01:49:32):
Mark eleven am kick not ideal, but I mean we
know the type of atmosphere Kyle Field can be. I mean,
you talk to a lot of AGGI fans. I mean,
is that gonna be an issue for people or we're
gonna have a full building right there as send as
the ball kicks at eleven.
Speaker 7 (01:49:46):
Oh, I think everybody's going to be there. I mean,
it's like I said yesterday, you can start drinking beer
at six thirty. It's a Saturday, it's the holiday season.
You know, everybody get there and go. And I honestly
think that the stakes are so high with this. This
is something that has been waited for for so long
that I would be absolutely shocked if there's not one
hundred and ten thousand people in there and kickoff.
Speaker 3 (01:50:07):
You have a first time college football playoff team making
a run to the postseason.
Speaker 4 (01:50:13):
Here's the fun part.
Speaker 10 (01:50:14):
Mark.
Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
It doesn't get any easier after playing Miami that was
playing with house fire down the stretch. Your reward for
beating a Hurricanes team is going up against a twelve
and zero regular season twelve and one Ohio State roster
and Arlington, and then if you get past them, which
I think it's a great matchup, you probably are welcoming
in Georgia. Do you think that this is this a
matchup to where momentum and shifts between the game of
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being able to kind of pull away and show that
the things that we learned about you during the matchups
against South Carolina and Texas weren't the entire identity of
your team. Is that going to be good enough to
be able to think sell a tempo of what to
expect when you go face off against Ohio State and
when you go face off against Georgia.
Speaker 7 (01:50:54):
If you win on Saturday, well it's all aline games,
you know, honestly believe, it's all a mind.
Speaker 5 (01:51:01):
Game for them.
Speaker 7 (01:51:02):
If they have their head screwed on right and they
go out there and play the way that they did
at the middle of the season, then they can go
I don't know if they can go to.
Speaker 5 (01:51:12):
The distance, but they can go a long way.
Speaker 7 (01:51:15):
On the other hand, if they go out there and
they're doubting themselves and they're thinking about what happened the
second half in Austin, and they're thinking about what happened
in the first half against South Carolina, well they're not
doing them themselves any good. They're they're actually doing themselves
a disservice. So they you know, it's it's all mindset.
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If they got their head screwed on right, they can
go out there and win a whole lot.
Speaker 5 (01:51:39):
If they don't, then you know, it's it's gonna be
a quick one and done. But this is this is
the CFP.
Speaker 7 (01:51:47):
Everybody's got to play at their best and they got
to play consistently at their best, and when they do that,
they're really good.
Speaker 5 (01:51:55):
You know.
Speaker 7 (01:51:56):
It's just a matter of whether or not they can
find that consistency because they didn't show it the last
month of the season.
Speaker 2 (01:52:03):
Mark, you're the best, buddy. It's great to hear from
you again and know you'll be all over it on Saturday.
And hopefully we're having a chance to talk with you
next week about a chance to.
Speaker 4 (01:52:12):
Go up to Dallas.
Speaker 5 (01:52:14):
That would be very very nice.
Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
There you go again, Mark Passwatersaggiel dot Com part of
on three. We'll catch up with you soon, buddy.
Speaker 5 (01:52:21):
All right, there, there you go.
Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
One thing though that you know we talked about and
you know, brought up of Mike Elcho. Well, let you
hear Mike Elko's thoughts on this, because I understand what
people think the immediate goal is for A and M,
but I think that Aggie fans want something else from
their program.
Speaker 4 (01:52:38):
We'll talk about it right here as we continue.
Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
It is the Morning Drive here on a Wednesday with
Dan and Cole Sports Talk seven to ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:52:46):
Come back to Dan and Cole as the Morning Drive
cruise is on.
Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
As mentioned a couple of different times, talking about the
words said earlier this week by Aggie head coach Mike Elko.
One of the things he was asked about was the season.
The conclusion, say you lose on Saturday, is it a
failure of a season at that point? And to that question,
this is the answer that Mike Elko had.
Speaker 5 (01:53:15):
We're in year two.
Speaker 11 (01:53:17):
We're trying to establish a championship type of program. We
haven't won a championship around here since nineteen thirty nine,
So that's a lot of busts if that's the only marker.
So I think we're obviously in this thing to compete
for a national championship.
Speaker 5 (01:53:32):
For sure. We believe we can.
Speaker 11 (01:53:34):
We believe one of the teams that's capable of going
out there.
Speaker 5 (01:53:36):
And winning it.
Speaker 11 (01:53:37):
But I don't know that.
Speaker 4 (01:53:40):
You define seasons.
Speaker 11 (01:53:42):
Like that, like I don't know that I've ever checked
off a box on the season like success, failure.
Speaker 4 (01:53:47):
See that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (01:53:47):
I don't think that A and M fans are entering
the college football Playoff with the expectation.
Speaker 4 (01:53:52):
That they're going to win a national title.
Speaker 2 (01:53:54):
At Ohio State, they are at Georgia, they are like
other programs that have been there, and in recent years
they're doing that think A and M fans that you
lose this game on Saturday, you're going to have a
lot of what ifs, or even some doubt that creeps in.
Maybe we're not that program, like I think that you're
going to have some of those things because it's not
about this season.
Speaker 5 (01:54:15):
For A and M.
Speaker 4 (01:54:16):
They've had good seasons in the past. They won the
Big Twelve with Sir Parker.
Speaker 2 (01:54:20):
You know, they had a really good season with Johnny Manzield,
and he came back the following year with Jake Matthews,
and they thought that, man, this is gonna be a
really good team. Mike Evans, everybody of the sort, this
is gonna be just an amazing season. He still won
ten games that year, but still it wasn't what people
expected when it was all said and done. That's what
A and M fans are asking for at this point, Cole.
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They're asking for consistency. They're asking for you to actually
be a program, not just a handful of decent teams
that are scattered around the last few years.
Speaker 3 (01:54:49):
Tripley, can you give me a favor and replay that clip.
I'll tell you when to stop.
Speaker 5 (01:54:55):
We're in year two.
Speaker 11 (01:54:56):
We're trying to establish a championship type of program. We
haven't won a championship around here since nineteen thirty nine.
Speaker 4 (01:55:03):
That's a lot. That's all I need here.
Speaker 3 (01:55:06):
You're a team that hasn't won a championship since nineteen
thirty nine. World War Two hadn't happened yet, we still
were dealing with segregation in the United States. There were
multiple issues that came up because of you know, international waters.
We hadn't had teams that were built underneath Bear Bryant
at Alabama and you haven't. You're one of the only
few teams that can say you were able to compete
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alongside several tyrants back in the day. Any A and
M fan that says it is Natty or Bus for
us is a spoiled Texas A and M fan beyond belief,
because if you have had rosters that constantly were filled
with better talent that always got in its way. You
had rosters that were filled with number one recruiting classes,
the top tier players that would go off to have
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incredible NFL careers, but you always got in your way.
This season, you didn't get in your way. You were
able to go take a coach that had an identity
that was very similar to the other winners of the past,
including probably the last great winner for you in RC Slocum.
I'm building a defensive formation, building a foundation that you
know can be sustainable long term, a new brand of culture,
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and now are three games away from playing in a
national championship. You do not get to sit here and
act like you're Alabama or Georgia or Michigan or Ohio
State or I'll go as far to even say Miami.
Because you want to know why those teams have shown
you in the last what would it be, twenty five
years they can win national championships.
Speaker 4 (01:56:32):
You haven't shown me you can.
Speaker 3 (01:56:33):
Even play in a postseason conversation. So the fact that
you got here and I can't make the Texas eight
and four jokes. The fact that this is the first
time in a while to where A and M actually
met a lot of its preseason expectations that were sky
high set through the roof like I'm sorry, I understand
that everyone's goal is to win a national title. It's
year two with a really good foundation, and you got
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the pieces in play.
Speaker 4 (01:56:56):
Everything is lined up for this to.
Speaker 3 (01:56:58):
Be the start, not the end. You're not gonna be
like a Vanderbilt that goes back to reality of a
six and six roster. Next year, you're gonna be right
back at ten and two. You're gonna be right in
the hunt for a college football playoff. Berth, You're gonna
be right in the hunt to compete alongside Texas for
the number one recruiting class in the state. And you're
gonna be great when it comes to the transfer portal.
Your nil decks are in a row. This is only
the beginning. I think four team like Texas, A and L.
See that's the thing, though, I think it's deeper than that.
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I think it's at least from the fan base perspective.
It's exactly what I said, All right, then let's do
it again.
Speaker 2 (01:57:26):
Then let's do it again, like at least give me
a chance, man, because I mean, I would say that
A and M is kind of in the same mold
as you know, what's the joke in football about Texas?
Speaker 4 (01:57:34):
Oh, Texas is back, Okay, great.
Speaker 2 (01:57:36):
I mean, for the longest time, it was Georgia before
they finally won a national title with Kirby Smart, it was, Oh,
we're hearing about how great Georgia is. Yeah, I remember
when you guys were number one when you had Matt Stafford, No,
Sean Moreno and all of those guys.
Speaker 4 (01:57:49):
And then what did you do with that? You didn't win.
I think that that's what it comes down to with
A and M. Is that I mean, at least give
me a shot, man. What happened? That's that's what A
and M fans are saying.
Speaker 3 (01:57:59):
What happened in Kirby's's first year when he was the
head coach of the Georgia bowlbox eight and five?
Speaker 4 (01:58:03):
What happened the second year? They went to the national
title game against Alabama?
Speaker 3 (01:58:06):
So year one you go eight and four, really eight
and five because you lose the bowl game, just like
Kirby Smart. I'm not comparing Mike gel go to Kirby Smart.
What I am saying is year two, you're playing for
a shot to go to.
Speaker 4 (01:58:17):
A national championship.
Speaker 3 (01:58:18):
There's an opportunity for you to finish your season out
in South Florida to have an opportunity to win your
first title since nineteen thirty nine. Even if you don't
this year, guess what happened afterwards? Eleven win season, twelve
win season, eight win season, fourteen win season, national championship
fifteen to zero for Georgia. They set a precedent emotion.
This wasn't working underneath Mark Rickt. Now it's working with
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Kirby Smart. It wasn't working with Jimbo Fisher. Now it's
working with Mike Elco. He could have gone to Penn State,
he said, I want to stick around here because this
is where I'm meant to be. It's only the beginning
for a team like Texas A and M. So again,
if you want to go ahead and say, well, we
deserve better than this, or we got screwed with our
selection process of how we're in the playoff, that's fine,
But just let me remind everybody you used to put
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the wagon before the horse, and you would celebrate wins
as an unranked team beating number one Alabama and treat
it like it's your super Bowl. This is actually a
moment to where you can celebrate long term, and this
is a moment to where you can look back and say,
I remember when the culture of Texas A and M
changed for the better.
Speaker 4 (01:59:17):
Well, and that's the thing I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:59:18):
Raising expectations in real time is a real thing, and
winning on Saturday, I think goes a massive step forward
and trying to accomplish that, because I mean, if you're
one of the next what you move on to eight
at that point, you one of the final eight teams,
maybe even you win that one and you're one of
the final four teams at that point. To the point
you brought up about another program, Georgia, I mean, that's
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exactly what you saw, is they got there, and I
think that there was a little bit of a feeling
of we weren't even really supposed to be here at
this exactly, Like.
Speaker 3 (01:59:46):
Did you think that Jake fromm was going to be
leading the Georgia Bulldogs to a national title appearance?
Speaker 4 (01:59:51):
Nobody thought that. No, I mean, but you know that
it was also though too.
Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
Look there's the other part of it as well, of
sometimes you know, with those heightened expectations of what you
used to do, is even even more not good enough
at that point, Like.
Speaker 3 (02:00:06):
Also remind yourself that we went to overtime in a
second and twenty sixth throw from Tua Tongue Bailoa to
a future Heisman Trophy winner in DeVonta Smith. Was all
she wrote on Georgia in two years, not winning its
first national title since nineteen eighty. I mean like it
was a It was a margin of slight errors in
the second half that allowed Alabama to work its way
back into that game.
Speaker 4 (02:00:25):
That's what A and M's trying to put in the
past to.
Speaker 2 (02:00:27):
By the way, it's looking like a Carter Carroll's pointed
out on social media and we're gonna get a blackout
for that game.
Speaker 3 (02:00:34):
You need to like, honestly, I get that it's gonna
it's gonna be seventy one degrees. You can go ahead
and deal with the humanity that day. Speaking of which,
Nick Saban, can you tell me how long it took
him to win his first national title at Alabama?
Speaker 4 (02:00:46):
He won it in three years. Three years.
Speaker 3 (02:00:48):
So we're in year two of Mike Outco much like
in year two of Nick Saban. He also played as
a top ten team in the college football landscape to
close out the month of twenty of December.
Speaker 2 (02:00:57):
I'm just saying, I mean, look, it looks like that
the you know, foundation is in place for am to
be able to do that. It's just the problem, as
I've said, detractors, fan base, it's the same deal. Okay,
you gotta do it like you got to show me
that this is a year in and year own.
Speaker 3 (02:01:09):
You'd just be happy that we're not calling you Texas
eight and four and twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4 (02:01:14):
I hope so.
Speaker 2 (02:01:14):
But I did like what you brought up there about
the regular season wins because having you know, been a
fan and being a fan of a program that has
been on the receiving end of that. The following year
didn't go well, so those cups were used against them.
Speaker 4 (02:01:27):
What year is this?
Speaker 2 (02:01:28):
This was twenty twenty nineteen when LSU repaid the favor
in Baton Rouge. The year previous was the seven overtime game,
and they made commemorative cups to commemorate the win there
in Kyle Field.
Speaker 4 (02:01:42):
I forgot about that. Hmm.
Speaker 2 (02:01:44):
Yeah, So look just put you know, what's the saying
when I, when I became an adult, I put childish
ways behind me. Well that's that's that's a way of
taking a step forward to being able to do that.
So hopefully they can. Let's get back into the Texans
because C. J. Stroud has a superpower, says is a
prominent NFL analyst.
Speaker 4 (02:02:02):
We'll let you hear what they have to say right here.
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Speaker 2 (02:02:37):
Then has promised getting back into the Texans conversation.
Speaker 4 (02:02:40):
So CJ.
Speaker 2 (02:02:41):
Stroud has had what three games back now. He had
the return against the Colts, pretty decent performance in that one,
but definitely looked like he was knocking off some rust
in that game. Third quarter against Kansas City not great.
And then he had a really pretty good performance against
Arizona on Sun where the Texans won that game forty
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to twenty.
Speaker 4 (02:03:03):
But does CJ.
Speaker 2 (02:03:04):
Stroud possess a superpower? Well, I mean we've seen really
good things out of him. Twenty twenty three was really good,
some good things this year and twenty four a little
bit of a regression at least according to some. But
Dan Orlowski with ESPN on the Pat McAfee show yesterday
talking about CJ and using those words super and power
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when it comes to his game.
Speaker 8 (02:03:27):
You know, throwing the ball over the middle of the field.
You're usually having to throw one of two ways in
between people from a horizontal perspective, so you got to
throw it with windows that are open before you want
to and close faster than you kind of see them.
So you've got to be able to anticipate, but also
through the right pace of a football. The skill of
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throwing the ball over the middle of the field is
anticipation and it's for me, it's pace, a pace of
a football of how fast or hard you're throwing it
is a huge deal.
Speaker 2 (02:03:59):
Another part of that conversation too, that Orlowski has mentioned
was the touchdown pass that he had to Niko on Sunday.
He said, if we're throwing that routes on air, that
ball is probably behind him, but he goes. Just the
ability to be able to fit it through the window
that he did just shows just how confident he is
going over the middle.
Speaker 3 (02:04:15):
No, he's had a couple of throws over the last
three games. The Xavier Hutches, I mean, the Jaden Higgins
throw on third down in the third quarter against Kansas
City was really prominent. The touchdown passed Nico Collins. He
had another one I believe if I'm not mistaken, it
was a Dalton Schultz across the middle of the field
in the third quarter against Arizona. He's done a good
job of understanding his surroundings. But to me, what's been
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the difference is when CJ was coming out of Ohio
State and he came and he was playing underneath Bobby
Slowck's offense. There were so many times where he would
get to the line of scrimmage understand that there were
certain sets being run against him, he would call an
audible and if the play just decided to go outward
and it became kind of out of left field and
un the orthodox, he threw to the wayside. He said,
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you know what, I'm not taking a sack. Instead, what
I'm gonna do is I'm gonna hit reset. I'd much
rather be living in second and ten than second and seventeen.
And I thought last game, really, even when you had
some of those rush throws that came in the Kansas
City game, he was making sure that he was thrown
to the outside and it wasn't across the middle of
the field, because at least it gives you an opportunity
to keep the drive alive. It keeps you in an
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opportunity to avoid the ill advised turnover. It gives you
the opportunity to kind of go ahead and understand, display
didn't work. We can't run it again. Let's go ahead
and call something else and something that we can build
a rapport on. And honestly, that to me has been
as influential as some of the throws that he is
making across the middle of the field, because it's an
understanding of your surrounding areas.
Speaker 4 (02:05:39):
You're playing inside the system that is now accustomed to
you and.
Speaker 3 (02:05:42):
Dan, let's just gone as is. It's week sixteen of
the NFL. This is who you are as an offense.
It's not changing because if you're going up against the Raiders,
the Raiders might not have a game plan for your offense.
But when you take on more compelling teams like you
would to close out the year with Los Angeles and
with Indianapolis, you're going to have to have your unit
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playing on its piece and q's And the bottom line is,
right now, it does feel like you're in a pretty
good spot because of the fact that he is making
the right decision to throw it out of bounds and
just hit reset.
Speaker 2 (02:06:14):
Well, it just also seems weird that the seemingly easier
part of playing quarterback is those throws near the sideline
one on one. You would think that's you know, probably
one go routes, things like that, double moves, whatever it
might be. But those are the ones that seemingly in
the pocket that CJ has struggled the most with. It's
been throws like this that he's been able to find
success with. It's the you know, even you know, dialed
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up rollouts that you do with him the off schedule
plays any of those, that's when usually it's all you
those situations don't go over the middle of the field.
But CJ says, no, you guys are the ones that
are doubting, and you shouldn't be doubting because I got
this throw in the bag.
Speaker 3 (02:06:51):
The only thing I will say is that it does
feel they're very codependent on Dalton Schultz and Nico Collins
to be the only ones to get on open But
that's maybe not the world first thing possible. You build
a report in a security blanket like, I think that
we overset. I think that we oversimplify or over exaggerate,
you know, the inability to connect with targets, Like you
look at Christian Kirk's numbers and the value of what
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he's getting paid in and leave seventeen point five million dollars,
do you really care if he ends up finishing with
one thousand receiving yards.
Speaker 4 (02:07:19):
If you're finishing, you're off twelve and five.
Speaker 3 (02:07:21):
Like, as long as you're able to get the situation
of hey twelve is open, let's go force feed him,
Hey eighty six is getting me first ounce. Let's go
just dink and dunk our way into the red zone
to put ourselves in a position to where we're walking
away with three points. I think that he's done a
better job of understanding I don't need to try to
get everyone involved. If something is working, let's just continue
to go back to the wall until it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (02:07:42):
I think that it's just it's, you know, with going
back to Christian Kirk, that it's more of all right,
how are Jayden Higgins and Jalen Nole doing much more
than it's Christian Kirk? Like, I don't think anybody comes
out of this season saying, geez, the hell are you doing?
Nick Assirio going and getting Christian Kirk. I think it
was more like just a depth piece at that point
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that you really didn't have to give up much to
be able to get.
Speaker 3 (02:08:04):
Yeah, But at the same time, you wanted to go
into the offseason knowing that you had a rental for
at least twenty twenty five with Tank Dell's sideline and
a guy who's played in multiple offensive schemes and somebody
who has been able to step up as a reliable
number two. Because if at some point you do look
at Dalton Schultz's numbers and you say, are we really
gonna be force feeding a tight end that doesn't.
Speaker 4 (02:08:24):
Do much after the catch? Like ninety percent of.
Speaker 3 (02:08:26):
The time, you see it as well as I do,
dan Hey, turn up field drop, turn up field drop.
You're not getting contact, You're not being able to do
what Jayden Higgins does and what Hutch does and what
Nico does.
Speaker 4 (02:08:37):
You're just basically being a chain mover.
Speaker 3 (02:08:39):
So you want to get somebody else in that building
so they take a little bit more pressure off of
making Dalton Schultzer number two. And this is where christianer
Kurt came on in The thing that they probably didn't
expect was for Jaden Higgins, Jalen Nole and Xavier Hutchinson,
the Iowa State cycle and trio to all finish with
more receptions, playing more games, be more available, and be
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more of an impact on certain levels.
Speaker 2 (02:09:01):
I think that there's an instant of means though, is
exactly one of those names that you mentioned Jayden Higgins
because you want Jayden Higgins to be one of those
counted on guys on the outside. Like, I think that
what you're building up for right now is for next season.
He won't shock me in the least if CJ's two
favorite targets are both of his receivers.
Speaker 4 (02:09:20):
Do you think the tank Dell is in that conversation?
Speaker 2 (02:09:23):
I justin the thing with Dell is, I mean, what
type of player are you getting? I mean, is he
gonna be the same guy after coming back from the injury? Man,
you don't know that until you see him back out there.
Speaker 3 (02:09:32):
So the good proces when it comes to Jaden Higgins
is he's second on the team in touchdowns with four.
He's second on the team and receiving in yardsberg catch
at eleven point eight. He's third on the team in
receptions with thirty six. He also has seen the most
amount of play between Xavier Hutchinson, Christian Kirk, and Jalen
Nole outside of Nico Collins a Dalton Schultz. So I
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don't think you're wrong. They are going to try to
get eighty one as much involved as possible. But I
still feel like right now, until and otherwise, this is
gonna be the Dalton Schultz and Nico Collinons combination for
CJ to go ahead and build a rapport in the
first half of games.
Speaker 2 (02:10:07):
I mean, you know, I just I think that that's
the part of this Texans offense too, that I mean,
if you continue to get confidence out of this group,
and I think that the real true test is gonna
be next week against LA a really good defense, and
if you are able to see them move the football,
find some consistency in the past game, be able to
get just enough of a run game, then I think
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that's probably when you're gonna have Texans fans kind of
like we're talking about A and l of you know,
truly believing like, oh okay, so this is transferable, like
you can do this week in and week out.
Speaker 4 (02:10:40):
Yes, I okay, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (02:10:43):
I do.
Speaker 3 (02:10:44):
I just feel like right now, the bigger question is
can you do it on the road, because if it
does feel like, as of now, you've been able to
show that you are playing at an elite level at home,
because you just did against an Arizona team, and you're
probably gonna put similar numbers, if not double the amount
of consistency up when you face off against Las Vegas
this week. Can you do what you were able to
accomplish in that first half against Kansas City for four
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quarters away from NRG Because of right now, with the
season we're to end today, we're not playing at home
at all. We're going on the road all three trips
before we make a run to Santa Clara.
Speaker 2 (02:11:16):
Moves are being made, but so far the hometown club
pretty silent on the hot stove front.
Speaker 4 (02:11:22):
Is there a reason to be concerned?
Speaker 2 (02:11:24):
We'll talk about it right here as we get into
the nine o'clock hour, even further on the Morning Drive
with Dan and Cole Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 6 (02:11:32):
The Morning Drive with Dann and Cole on Sports Talk
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Speaker 2 (02:11:43):
Oh, you know, just a great organization, the Spurs. Nobody
does it better than them. And it was just like
oh my god, like enough enough, I get it. You
guys are winning world titles. It's fine, it's fun. But
then after Tim Manu and Tony and Kawhi Leonard left, well,
then you went into a little bit of the event
this happens.
Speaker 3 (02:12:01):
It was a fantastic moment last night for HUND Sports.
If you were just talking about in the basketball range
where you didn't play, you feel like that you're on
the come up. I still believe that San Antonio is
a laughing stock and there eventually gonna come back down
to reality and not be able to do much in
the playoffs. And meanwhile, probably the best player that you
had outside of Luca won the MVP as a New
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York Knicks because of guess what, Jalen Bruns is now
bringing another NBA Cup final back to the city that
probably is still going to not make it to the
NBA finals.
Speaker 2 (02:12:30):
Someone three two, one, two, five, seven, ninety is the
number to get in. You know, we thought that last
week we were going to see deals made by Dana
Brown and company.
Speaker 4 (02:12:38):
I mean, remember he had the line about in the neighborhood.
You know, you feel good.
Speaker 2 (02:12:42):
Nothing's necessarily close, but at least you know, the conversations
are progressing.
Speaker 6 (02:12:46):
All of that.
Speaker 2 (02:12:46):
Well, that was last week and now we are to
the middle of this week and the Astros still haven't
made deals, But that hasn't stopped others from making deals.
So of course, you know, we knew about the deal
made by the Mets to get poor Polanco, and there
was thought that the Astros would be out the running
of being able to maybe have the Mets be a trade.
Speaker 4 (02:13:09):
Partner for Christian Walker.
Speaker 2 (02:13:10):
Well, it doesn't necessarily seem like that's true, because at
least there's a report out there that the Mets are
obviously still looking to add even with adding on or
a Polanco. The thought is is that Polanco would play
first base. He could play first base for them right now.
But two, I mean, you know, you lose the production
that you did in Pete Alonzo. I mean, is it
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a little bit of moneyball right there where you still
have it open where you can have Polanco play second base,
You can have him play anywhere else in the infield
if you're able to go, and you're able to go
with Christian Walker over at first base.
Speaker 3 (02:13:46):
You can't play second. You got somebody at second you
made the trade with Brandon Nimo to bring in Marcus Simeon,
So now he's blocking second base, Okay, so third Okay,
now you got Brett Bady, who is an up and
coming superstar at there Mark Fiantos, who may be a
better option at first base or at designated hitter at
this point. So I understand what you were thinking about
bringing in Jorge Polanco at that bat. Add that defensive
value for what he's able to do with run save, Like,
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I get that, but where's the home for him? Like,
let's be real, I look at the Mets situation right now,
similarly to how I look at the Astro situation. You're
adding in players that on paper look really good in
the lineup, but you also now have an infield conundrum
because if there's a certain spot that everyone is supposed
to go, and you know, all have enough spots for everyone.
Speaker 2 (02:14:29):
To be in at the same time, well, I mean,
it doesn't seem like that the Mets would be in
the market of adding another bat because it seems like
that they are kind of in the same boat the
Astros are, according to Hora Casdo of ESPN, trying to
be able to bolster the front end of the rotation.
Speaker 3 (02:14:44):
So what they're probably gonna do is they're gonna give
up one of their superstar young guns and you know,
bring in someone from San Diego or Boston or I
would go as far as say maybe even the Yankees
if need be. But they're going to make a trade,
and it feels like that they're trading for the ease,
and they kind of have to because of for some reason,
I don't know why we haven't heard more from the
status of from ber Valdez. I think that he'd be
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a great fit at the start of the rotation. At worst,
he's a number two. At best, he's a low quality
number one. He had him a Kodai Sanga. You got
Nolan McLean, who was a superstar to close out twenty
twenty five. Like, the fact right now is that it
seems we're gonna get a trade done. I mean, we're
gonna get a pitcher moved to New York. It's gonna
come in the form of a trade. And that's kind
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of how I feel about the Asters at this point.
They're gonna get a move done. It's gonna come be
a trade for a pitching.
Speaker 2 (02:15:31):
Yeah, a few other moves made yesterday the Cubs bringing
back lefty reliever Caleb Thealbar. I know that there were
some people who wondered if maybe he would fit here
in Houston. And then the Giants last night adding right
hand or Adrian Houser to your deal twenty two million
dollars club option for a third.
Speaker 5 (02:15:48):
That was one.
Speaker 2 (02:15:48):
When I saw that deal, I was like, would that
not have been one that you would have been interested
in if you were the Astros. I mean that seems
like that would have been somebody that you could have
had as a middle and you know, kind of three
to four in your rotation.
Speaker 4 (02:16:01):
Who again, Adrian Hawser, Yeah, I mean, like, okay, that
would have been my five.
Speaker 3 (02:16:11):
In my opinion, I think you would have had the
conversation of moving up saying an aj Bluebam, what are
you gonna do when Spencer Getty comes back from injury?
Speaker 4 (02:16:18):
That's your number five?
Speaker 5 (02:16:19):
Guy?
Speaker 4 (02:16:20):
Like, that is not a move that I'm saying, you
put it your four.
Speaker 3 (02:16:22):
Because Houser also stunk it up with Chicago and then
he got traded, and he was with the Brewers before that,
and he hated his role with the Brewers. So they're like, hey,
trade me to an organization that's gonna use me properly. Okay,
we're gonna singing to Chicago where they are the worst
run organization in baseball.
Speaker 2 (02:16:37):
Yeah, Howser was eight and five last year with a
three point three to one e r A. Now catching
on with the Giants. He was with the Tampa Bay
Rays last year. Also was with the White Sox too
for the beginning part of the season. He was six
and two in Chicago with them, and then he went
to Tampa Bay and he was two and three. But
what was his numbers when he was with the Brewers
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before that and in the the Mets before that, up
and down with the Brewers, sometimes in the threes, sometimes
in the fives, mostly in the fours. And then with
the Mets for the twenty twenty four season he was
with them, he was one in five with a five
point eight four.
Speaker 3 (02:17:14):
So again you're banking on him to be a guy
that maybe is going to get back to his form
of what a number five pitcher in a rotation that
can give you six innings every other start.
Speaker 2 (02:17:23):
I mean, with some of these numbers, though, I would
think that probably you brought him in here, you'd have
him in the middle of the rotation.
Speaker 3 (02:17:30):
I just don't want him in the middle. Like, that's
my thing, is that I just would not feel comfortable
putting him in the middle of our rotation. I'd much
rather see him at either the back end or not
sign him at all. If you're going to go after
somebody in the middle of your rotation, we already know
who that answer is.
Speaker 4 (02:17:43):
It sucks, but the bottom line is that it is
going to happen this way.
Speaker 3 (02:17:47):
Eventually, we will get through spring training and then we
will watch as thirty five comes back on the mound
and he becomes instead of your ast you're number three.
Speaker 4 (02:17:54):
Does it concern you though, the lack of additions so
far with the Astros. Yeah, But at the same time,
look around the league.
Speaker 3 (02:18:02):
Who's really made that splash moves outside of Baltimore, Because,
and I will give credit, Baltimore's actually caught my attention
with what Michael Lias is doing. You gotta be impressed.
They've given away a picture that they don't think has
a future out there. They bring it an outfielder who
has more pop. They're trying to trade it an outfielder
to get in another starting pitcher. They were able to
go sign arguably the best power hitter on the best
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power hitting first baseman not named vladimirger Junior. They have
a good young corn place, and they still have money
to spend in the free agent market to bring in
a picture. But that's the only team that I've been
really impressed. Like, what's Atlanta done? What Austin has Toronto done?
What do you feel like is the move that Boston's
done or Las Vegas has done, or Texas even for
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that matter, Like Texas honestly has gotten worse this season
at least the Ashers are idle if anything.
Speaker 2 (02:18:51):
Well, I mean Atlanta able to go out and get
Robert Suarez from the Padres even though they say he's
not going to be the closer there, which conventionally he will,
and then they just brought back Hassan Kim on a
one year deal for twenty million.
Speaker 3 (02:19:06):
Yeah, the dude was with Tampa that got cut and
then like he signed on for like the last forty
games of the season or something like that.
Speaker 4 (02:19:11):
Yeah, and you had a good finish with the Braves too,
But Stu, do.
Speaker 3 (02:19:13):
You look at a Braves team right now with how
many question marks they have with aging veterans, with also
the bullpen issues, and then what you got in terms
of your overall bats, what you could potentially lose to
Marcelo Zuna and say they're in a better spot right
now than they were going into the offseason.
Speaker 2 (02:19:30):
Well, I mean, as I've mentioned too, there are other
players that could possibly be of interest to the Astros,
and maybe even two a current Astro that could be elsewhere.
We'll discuss all of that, Gary, and springs to you
right there, working into the conversation. You want to join
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Speaker 5 (02:19:54):
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Speaker 4 (02:20:02):
Home of your Astros. Real quick here before we get
to Gary.
Speaker 2 (02:20:06):
I mean, one thing that I can appreciate with the
Astros is, at least from the slow moving nature of this,
they're not moving out of desperation, which I can appreciate.
Speaker 3 (02:20:17):
Well, nobody's making moves right now that are that splashy.
I mean, look at some of the top names on
the market, almost nearly every single premiere pitcher is still available.
You look at a guy like Boba Schett, he has
yet to sign any contract. Kyle Tucker has yet to
go anywhere. They haven't made trades for like Nick Cassianos
or Alec Boma in Philadelphia to free up cap space
to go bring in another player.
Speaker 4 (02:20:37):
You haven't seen Corey Seeger be dealt.
Speaker 3 (02:20:39):
So like all these things that we constantly are hearing about,
what could be the reason the Astros end up taking
a step back, or that there's another team that makes
it jump forward.
Speaker 4 (02:20:48):
None of it's happening right now.
Speaker 3 (02:20:50):
I mean, the biggest deals we've seen so far is
Kyle Schwarber going back to the team that he was
supposed to always go play for it and close out
his career, Pete Alonzo going to the Al East and
not even getting a qualifying offer from the Mets, the
Mets once again crapping the bed and letting go of
their star closer and Edwin Diaz to join forces out
in l A, bringing in a Robert Suarez who wasn't
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the closer anymore out in San Diego because of the
brought and Mason Miller and the other one is probably
mikekel Garcia getting a new contract extension by the Kansady Royals.
Am I missing any like major deals so far in
the last two weeks since since winning Winter meetings.
Speaker 2 (02:21:29):
No, I mean, I'd say pretty much to the ones
that stand out the most, or you know, at least
one of them. I mentioned Edwin Diaz, the Dodgers, Pete Alonzo,
the Orioles Suarez to the Braves. I mean, that's pretty
much it. I mean, there's nobody else that I can
look at and say. I mean, because Alex Bregman's still
out there, people people wondering if maybe the Arizona Diamondbacks.
What do you think of that report? There was strong
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connection to him in Arizona last year because in the
off season he lives in Arizona, Scots right, Yeah, he
trains out there too, and you know New Mexico Arizona,
all right, there those four corner states that there was
thought that if the Diamondbacks made a decent enough run
at him, that he would go there.
Speaker 3 (02:22:09):
My only question is, are you trying to have a
soft rebuild by freeing up cat space by moving off
of Josh Naylor and Jahino Suarez to get to hit
reset because remember the other guy that they just brought
back was Meel Kelly. So they brought back in a
pitcher that they were able to get draft compensation for
in prospects to the Rangers earlier this year. But at
the same time, we're also hearing rumors that you're trying
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to trade kateel Marte for the highest bidder.
Speaker 2 (02:22:33):
So what is the game plan right now with Arizona? Well,
I mean it's soundly with Arizona. I mean you know
it with Seattle too. I mean, they bring back Josh Naylor,
but it's just like like, where's your you know, urgency,
where's your desperation.
Speaker 4 (02:22:46):
I feel like it's more on Seattle than it is
the Astros at this point.
Speaker 3 (02:22:49):
I think with Seattle they're trying to come up with
a package that can land them someone like a McKenzie
Gore or a Trek School. That's my thing is I
think that they're trying to come up with ways to
make the blockbuster move that's not a free agency. They
want to get guys who are already proven that can
come on in, get a CJ. Abrams to kind of
fill the boy that what you're losing. They're room going
to be in the Brandon Donovan sweepstakes right now. They're
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more so, I think, interested in swapping prospects for players
than signing these lookrative contracts.
Speaker 2 (02:23:18):
And the Astros, I mean, you know, they're not really
in position to overspend, so I mean that kind of
helps you out in that regard. But then the other
one too is I mean a trade. As I've said before,
don't don't just accept the trade for the sake of
accepting a trade. If if you feel like you're getting
equal or you know, somewhat equal value in return, then yeah,
then go with it. But if not, then you know,
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just keep waiting until you get that that asking price.
Someone three two, one, two, five, seven ninety is the
number to get in Gary, and Spring wants to wait
in Gary.
Speaker 4 (02:23:47):
Good morning, Hey, good morning guys.
Speaker 10 (02:23:49):
Yeah, I agree with the last thing you said. Don't
do a trade just for the sake of trade and
the human nature, you know, just want something new all
the time. But I may have called in on this
before and stated this, but I'm real animate with the Astros.
If you look at the Astros overall, their position players,
batting and all of that stuff. The only weaknesses they
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have and they really don't have a weakness. Their average
in two spots, I don't know who their left fielder is,
and their catcher their average or maybe a little above average.
So every other position, your whole infield is gold glovers.
Hard to find that anywhere else. Everybody's a gold glover
your first basement, everybody wants to get rid of. I don't.
He's your leading home run hitter, you're leading RBI. Man.
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I know he strikes out a lot, but your power
hitters all do. And he is one hell of a
defensive player. I've seen him get so many feels, so
many hard hit ground balls that most of the first
basemens wouldn't. So I don't see any need in doing
any trade for trade sex. If I was going to
pick one position, it would be a pitcher. But I
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want to see this one guy. I call him blue balls.
I want to see him as a starter where it's fifth, fourth, third,
whatever you see him, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (02:25:10):
You want to see him get high. You want the
blue balls to go away, don't you?
Speaker 10 (02:25:14):
Yeah, no, no, I want blue balls in the lineup.
I love his demeanor. He used to have a picture
I forget his name, that had that demeanor. And he
was really good. But he he's young and he's gonna
be really good, so I think it may plug him
in as a starter, But that would be the only
position I look for as a starter somewhere. So I
don't see any need for any check because you're gonna
you've got an extra infielder and you're gonna have injuries.
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So I don't see any need for any traits or
the astros other than, like I said, a picture. So anyway,
just want to share that with you guys and see
what you thought.
Speaker 4 (02:25:45):
Hey, I appreciate the call. Gary. You just can't help yourself,
can you. No, it's a matter with you. No, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (02:25:50):
You can't lay down a childish response like that and
not expect the man child to at least make a
comment in return. It's like if you say six to seven,
I'm going to react to it will exactly make somebody
gonna say eight night and eight nine instead. No, I
will push back on Gary on one thing. Yes, you
need to trade for a picture. Yes, I understand. Don't
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trade just to go ahead and make a trade, which
is why Jake Myers is still on the roster. But
at some point you have to ask yourself, how are
we going to make this work with a convoluted conundrum
currently sitting in the infield with Paretes, Walker, Penya Altuve,
potentially Bryce Matthews, Nick Allen and uh and uh, Why'm
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not like it? Cherry Pango. So you're stuck in a
situation of you have six guys for four spots. You
are gonna play your and on Alvarez a DH. You
don't have a left fielder because hose Al two is
not seeing the action left field on a regular basis.
Correy is not moving to left, Paying is not moving
to left, Karay is not moving a short Yeah, you
need the bat of Parretes in the infield. So at
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some point you got to ask yourself who is the
easiest player to move off of to where we're getting
something in return to fix the.
Speaker 4 (02:27:03):
Fault of what we have right now in the infield.
Speaker 2 (02:27:05):
Well, I mean, I think the answer to that as
not one that Astros fans want to hear at Sea
Soock Paratis just because of just his affordability.
Speaker 3 (02:27:12):
I'm going to make you an offer right now, you
are Dana brown I and the Boston Red Sox. I'm
saying you can have will your abray you and our
number nine prospect? Are you taking that deal for Estac Paratus?
Speaker 2 (02:27:26):
I mean he is able to fill an out field
need and I mean high strikeouts, all of that, I'd
have to have one more.
Speaker 4 (02:27:35):
You'd have to have something else in the deal.
Speaker 3 (02:27:37):
Okay, what if I offered you Ead, What if I
offered you Jaron Duran but you had to give up
more than to Sea SoC Paradis, would you take that deal?
Speaker 5 (02:27:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:27:45):
Then that's one that I'm willing to discuss, even though
a couple of things that you pointed out to me,
I guess the Royals are interested in Duran.
Speaker 3 (02:27:52):
Yeah, that is a deal that is trying to get
done in the works, which kind of came out of
left field because of everyone thought aj Probler was finally
going to get.
Speaker 2 (02:27:59):
Us do this offseason, and then Major League MLB dot
Com Mark Finestein throwing out possible trade candidates for every club.
Speaker 4 (02:28:08):
For the Astros Jr.
Speaker 3 (02:28:10):
Dis let me ask you out to curiosity. Let's say
the right price is there. It may end up being
for an outfielder, and then not in Cassianos, We're not
gonna go with him.
Speaker 4 (02:28:19):
I don't know. Maybe maybe it's Brandon Marsha and one
of their and one of their relievers. How would you
feel afterwards you're trying to go get jt Relmuto.
Speaker 2 (02:28:29):
I don't think the Astros would, just because I think
they feel like that Yannick is that close.
Speaker 3 (02:28:34):
See, I still would get I still would go after
Ralia Mutel for two years. Again, he is still a
very solid offensive catcher. The numbers have decreased over the
last two seasons. We can admit that he is in
the back end of his tenure, but it gives you
an opportunity to have a veteran in the clubhouse, somebody
that's worked with the multitude of different pictures, and he
still is pretty good at framing. So you are still
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having the defensive metrics that bode well in favor of you.
It's gonna cost you money, but this is a team
that's not trying to say we're punting on twenty twenty
six and looking towards a soft rebuild. They're still looking
to be that team that is going to make a
run toward one more World Series title. A real Muto
says that you're still interested in being in that conversation,
waiting it out for Yannick or bringing in like a
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Christian Vazquez and like a Victor Kroten. To me, that
says we're just trying to do enough to get to
the playoffs. We're not considering ourselves as an actual favorite
to win the World Series.
Speaker 2 (02:29:26):
Well, at least when Vasquez was here the first time,
it was, you know, at least the intent was there
of why you went out and got him. But then
you had the manager who said, no, I'd much rather
have Maldonado out there. You won the World Series, so
it's hard to argue with his logic there.
Speaker 3 (02:29:40):
Now again, Hindsight's twenty twenty, the dude who couldn't hit
his hit his own his own weight ended up being
the reason why you were able to win the World Series.
I guess that that works out in your favor. And
no hitter thrown in it too, so that definitely helped.
Speaker 4 (02:29:51):
He was behind both, He was behind all four pitchers,
wasn't he? I believe? So okay, just make it sure, maam.
Speaker 2 (02:29:56):
All right, a new meaning to hitting bombs on the
golf course and all also to a trophy that you
can actually use. We'll talk about both of those things
as we close. Out this edition of the Morning Drive
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They are don Morning Drive, Here's Dan Matthews and Cole Thompson.
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This is not a good draft class for quarterbacks at all.
Speaker 3 (02:31:49):
Like I personally think that Fernanda Mendoza is going to
relate it out for you yesterday. He's gonna have a
better career as a politician than he is as a
football player. So automatically it feels like that you're going
to be hitting reset in any franchise. The other thing
is is that who's on the move this offseason to
where you feel like you're truly upgrading Kyler Murray.
Speaker 4 (02:32:08):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (02:32:09):
But is Kyler really that much better than two a
time of byloa Nope. So at this standpoint, unless quhen
Youwer shows you that he is gonna be able to
fix a lot of the faults in the span of
three games, Tua's gonna be starting next year in Miami.
Like this whole benching thing that people want to go with.
The reason why is because if Tua has been such
a i would say unknownly channel point of conversation for
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the last six years that they're trying to come up
with reasons to continue to bring him on up.
Speaker 4 (02:32:39):
I just view this as honestly a nothing burger.
Speaker 3 (02:32:41):
Like, yeah, he's not gonna be able to do much,
But at the same time, you have no other option
other than trading for Joe Burrow. And guess what everyone
wants to trade for Joe Burrow. So enjoy trying to
win that battle way of the staff.
Speaker 2 (02:32:53):
Well, life's hard when you pay for the wrong quarterback.
I mean, that's that's really what the moral of the
story is. You canna extend your quarterback, Okay, fine, you
better make sure it works cause I mean it's where
you run into this situation like years ago with Washington,
with Kirk Cousins, they were like, we're not paying that
this guy's what does this guy necessarily do that We
have to, you know, play the game of paying the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (02:33:13):
You can't lose your quarterback. Who cares? You can't lose
your quarterback?
Speaker 2 (02:33:19):
No, I mean that's for the longest time it's been Ah,
you know he's good, but man, you know life could
be a lot worse without him. So yeah, extend him
and pay him the top premium money in the league.
Speaker 3 (02:33:29):
Well, think about it now, in the world of college football.
You have a guy that was supposed to be the
reason why your team turned around, and now he's turning
his back on you and saying, pay me X amount
of money or I'm gonna go to another school, or
they're gonna pay me more money. And you have to
run that risk when you don't know if they're gonna
be able to pan on out, like like Leonora Sellers,
is he really going to be that much better with
Kendall Brile's running the offense out in South Carolina?
Speaker 4 (02:33:50):
If they don't have an offensive line.
Speaker 3 (02:33:52):
But did Millanoria sellers get offer the most money to
stick around in South Carolina versus going to Miami or
to Texas Tech or to LSU at that standpoint, and
that's what ultimately decided.
Speaker 2 (02:34:03):
Hey, you're our dude. I guess it's just funny to
see college football accounts.
Speaker 4 (02:34:07):
So and so re signed.
Speaker 5 (02:34:09):
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (02:34:11):
Did you know that an unexploded artillery shell was found
on the Royal Royal Liverpool golf club course. So workers
were doing some irrigation work and then they dig up
and they're like, that doesn't look like it's supposed to
be there. Well, they found out that it was a
un exploded World War Two artillery shell, to which then,
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if you follow a Royal Liverpool on social media, I
doubt they posted a video of them doing a controlled
detonation carried out by by specialists. The site was made safe,
they said, and also too. You can click on a
link to find out more about Royal Liverpool's war years
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by clicking on this link.
Speaker 4 (02:34:57):
Interesting is this segment a or is this a blow up?
It's fantastic. No, it's you know, hitting bombs on the course.
In this case, they took it to another level.
Speaker 3 (02:35:07):
Do you think it just did that to go ahead
and get the get the insurance money to renovate it. Well,
I mean maybe so, but still, I mean you found
mostly that's what I would do.
Speaker 2 (02:35:14):
That's like, you know, go into some of these like
formerly war torn areas and it's like, yeah, it's an
undetonated mine, evacuate the building.
Speaker 3 (02:35:21):
Yeah, but I think it's a little bit different. What
if they just want to go ahead and pay for
a new bermuna try and viamuna grass. They went Kentucky
Blue and they're in their Liverpool backyard.
Speaker 2 (02:35:30):
Remember they went to Zeytia. The hell is zs it's
just a type of grass, real quick.
Speaker 7 (02:35:36):
Here.
Speaker 4 (02:35:36):
The pop Tarts trophy, you can use it as a toaster.
It's a I'm telling you right now.
Speaker 3 (02:35:41):
That game and it's a shame that Nardane thought that
they were too good for it is America's National championship.
Speaker 4 (02:35:47):
Is the college football fans favorite game of the year,
and I will die on that take. The only other.
Speaker 2 (02:35:51):
Prize that I think is out there that I would
want to have would be if you win the race
at Texas Motor Speedway, you get a cowboy hat and
then you get the fire two pistol.
Speaker 4 (02:36:00):
That would be fun.
Speaker 3 (02:36:02):
I want to watch as there is true cannibalization going
on on the field as a pop tart is lowered
into the broiler and then eaten by the peers of
the winning team.
Speaker 4 (02:36:13):
This is why it is the best game of the year.
And I'm ashamed that Nor Dame is not playing any
And the pop Tarts Bowl is an edible mascot, multiple
edible mass scot sixth this year, dude, they have six
and they're gonna cook three this year.
Speaker 2 (02:36:24):
I love it, Savannah Banana, that thing up. Man have fun,
all right, that's gonna do it for us. Here on
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We will talk to you in twenty hours.