Rockets Fall to Nuggets 128-125 in OT, Texans Prep for Raiders, CFP Round 1 Early Look

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is the Morning Drive with Dad and Cole, and
that's how the game will end.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
On a three pointer attempt by Alpera and Ngoon, it
hit glass, Bruce Brown gathered it, ran away, Rockets. I
guess we're unable to foul in the final seconds.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
And Denver wins the game. Yep, that's how it goes.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
Last night in ot in Denver, and with that we
say away we go in good morning. Here it is
the Morning Drive with Dan and Coles Sports Talks seven
ninety as the Rockets fall by three twenty five there
in the Mile High City, and Cole, aren't you glad
that we stayed up and watched the.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
End of that one? No?

Speaker 5 (00:49):
No, and I'm gonna I'm gonna push back on you.
The Rockets did not lose one twenty eight to one five.
They were chastised, and they were belittled and robbed of
a victory during the regular time because of a egregiously horrendous,
pathetic excuse of a call against Tim Hardaway on a
foul that even the folks in Denver could see. Nope,

(01:13):
Tim Hardaway did not get touched. Welcome to the world
of the NBA.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
In twenty twenty five, damn mad.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
So I said it last night when or Demiko, when
Imay Doka got the technical foul and it was a
double technical because I think on that one that was
when trying to remember Shingoon got the tech in the
second quarter and then that's exactly when it was. That's
when Udoka got the technical. He was screaming, open your

(01:39):
bleeping eyes. Yeah, yeah, so, I mean he he had
that going, but look, I may when when when he
wants to get run, Emy will do everything he can
to get run. And in that moment, he was like,
you guys are awful, and I don't even know if
I want to stick around and watch this without bad
You're being the night because as we say on Twitter

(02:01):
in the show tweet today at Sports Talk seven ninety
that it.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Was five verses eight And you don't want to.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Do the blaming the officials part of it, but it
was a huge part of last night's game.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
No, you don't want to do the blaming the officials
when it comes down to one call, but when it's
one critical call with less than five seconds on the
clock and you're up by one, knowing that he is
going to get to the line of scrimmage and all
he has to.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Do is make two for him to win the game.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
Yeah, it does feel like it's a little bit of
five vague because I can't even talk about what we
saw last night from Katie dropping twenty five. I can't
talk about the good performance of alput Chingoon dropping thirty three,
the way the defense was able to kind of play
against a guy who is quite literally a superstar and
almost impossible to guard in Nikola Jokic. I can't talk
about the way the team shot forty eight from downtown

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fifty one from the field. They kind of struggled when
when it came to the free throw percentage line. They
out rebound, they out turnover, they outstole, they out blocked Denver.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Because the only thing that matters is.

Speaker 6 (02:59):
That with one moment left in the game, you leave
it up to the incompetent Zebras to find a way
to show their true colors and say, well, Denver's prettier
against Oklahoma City.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
We're gonna give them the nod.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
In stet we got to make sure the MVP gets
his stop on the way to having a home court
advantage after losing four in a row in Denver, well.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
That's not bury the lead on it either, because after
the game, I mean, as I told you, Ima Udoka
doesn't get cheated. On the postgame press conference, he did
exactly that, he didn't get cheated.

Speaker 7 (03:31):
Tiki Tech went along with the game tonight, So not
surprised by the crew we had out there. Just in general,
I think it's poortably officiated game. I've seen a long
time to have no business being out there, and the
crew chief of Second Star struck. So you're seeing all
kinds of inconsistent calls, and I'm sure you should have

(03:52):
got a few more techs.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
So the away from the ball foul that was called
again on a men Thompson on Tim hardaway, what if
I told you that that wasn't even the worst one.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
The worst was.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
The worst one was the one that put them up
by three late where it was I don't even know
if it was an inbound but it was and men
Thompson trying to go for a steal and they called
him for just a simple hand check. Or it had
been a physical game, and you've got two physical teams,
and clearly one side was allowed to be more physical
than the other, and in that case, right there. That

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was one of the deciding calls in the game, where yeah,
the one on Hardaway was bad, it didn't really necessarily
hurt you because they made the free throw to tie
it up, of course, because you know you get the
free you know, nobody on the line free throw kind
of deal. And then you had the missed you know,
game winner by Jokic to send it to ot there.

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But that was the one that was the most egregious evolable.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
But like the thing is is that I want to
talk so highly about what the Rockets were able to do,
and I don't want to take away from who a
team like Denver is. I mean Denver, I think you
would agree with me, and I think seven one three,
two one two five, seven to ninety most people would
the next team up behind Oklahoma City, who's in their
own stratosphere at this point is either Houston or Denver.
Those are the next two competitors and contenders in this

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way in the Western Conference. And I would say in
the NBA to even go dance with the devil that
is Oklahoma City. Get this point, and so right now,
I can't talk about alpri ching Goun having a double double.
I can't talk about, you know, Jabari Smith giving you
sixteen and shooting six to eleven for the field. I
can't talk about the way that Josha Koge start off
really strong and dropped sixteen points. I can't talk about

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the way that you were able to slow down a
Nikola Yokich, who at this point you always gonna get
a triple double if you allow him to, and by
the way, allowing him to is a nice way of
putting he's gonna get it ninety nine point nine percent
of the time. I can't talk about the way that
you were able to really shut down everybody other than
Jamal Murray, who dropped thirty five and is playing like
an MVP and certainly an All Star this year. Because

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the only thing that I'm focused in on are the
blatantly neglected, careless penalties by people who are so incompetent
on being on a court that they constantly are allowing
their fandom to get in the way. And that's what
we saw last night was Denver need a win they
had dropped for at home. The NBA doesn't like the
fact that they're not playing up to a certain standard,

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and the.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Rockets are just a Shill. So they're like, oh, that's fine.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
It'll be okay, because we got to make sure that
the MVP gets his accolades against top tier teams.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Yeah, Denver shot thirty three free throws compared to the
Rockets twenty six. And I know one of the players
that was kind of a point of contention for the
Rockets was Jamal Murray shooting fifteen of those thirty three.
So again, like I said, I mean, you know, you
hear the saying all the time, rules for thee and
not for me. In that case right there, it was

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rules for everybody else and not for Jamal Murray or
Nikola jokicic who Jokic shot eleven two. The only Rocket
that shot near as much like it's somewhat in the
neighborhood was Kevin Durant with eight.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
I mean, alpertching goom was for fourteen to twenty seven
from the field. What I thought was really interesting is
that you know, we're gonna look at the score and
l say won one hundred and twenty eight points allowed.
I thought that Houston did a good job playing pesky
defense against Jokich. The problem was that the dude is
just a lead everywhere. I mean, he was three for
five from I mean when five and nine from downtown.
So there were moments you were watching last night where

(07:18):
they were playing up on him and they were making
sure that they were in his face and kind of
taking away any avenue for him to kind of get
into a tour in the back basket.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
So what does he do.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
He doesn't turn around and just drains the three during
the middle of the third quarter to keep momentum on
the side of the Nuggets. So, I mean, like the
things that you really want to pescer on you can't
because of Denver just did what it usually is accustomed
to doing. And unfortunately this leads to what you played
such a great game. You were able to shut them down,
you were able to gain a lead with eleven seconds left.

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Everyone is kind of deciphering on how they're supposed to
be able to perform going into that last drive.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
And then you get a blatantly fake call. You know,
you know it's bad Dan.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
When the national broadcasters, when the Nuggets broadcasters, and when
the Rockets broadcasters all look and go, I don't know
if he touched, if shouldn't touch. Before that, he decided
to start tripping at this point.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Yeah, and I mean you know you touched on it.
Nikola Jokic thirty nine out of him, I mean just
some of those three balls that he made. You're just
like come on, man, like like seriously, like like how
But I mean the Rockets offensively last night not terrible.
I mean just over fifty percent from the field as
a whole, forty eight percent overall from three hadn't seen

(08:30):
a ton of forty eight percent. I mean, it's been
much improved, but it hasn't been that good for many
of the games this season, so it's unfortunate. I mean,
you feel like you should have gotten out there with
a win last nights and some very questionable calls are
what to keep you from being able to get out
of there with the win last night, And well, the

(08:51):
Rockets have to sit on it until Thursday and then
hopefully take it out on the New Orleans Pelicans, which
I think they probably will.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
Let me ask you, do you feel like that as
soon as that call was made, you should have just
made the two free throws and then knock on overtime, because,
in my opinion, seeing how blatantly obvious it was that
the refs were doing everything possible to help out Denver
to get a win. That was the ultimate sign if
you weren't winning an overtime sorry, they were going to
have the momentum on their side. You know, the Zebras
were going to be siding with them. You knew that

(09:19):
everybody inside the court was going to be pulling for
Nikola Jokics to finish his triple double. I just would
have rather at that point Tim Hardaway made two shots
and call to night.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Well.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
I mean, I guess it would have saved you a
little bit of trouble if you believed that that was
how it was going to end last night. But the
Rockets means still trying to give themselves every opportunity. I mean,
you start off the overtime with being down seven early
because of a seven to nothing run by Denver. But
credit to the Rockets for coming back and being able

(09:48):
to finally get on the board and only getting outscored
by three there in that ot, but still not enough.
One twenty eight, one twenty five, the final last night
there in Denver, and as I mentioned, a lot of
the next couple of nights off and then you get
I mean, think about this for travel for the Rockets
on the six game road trip because I can't remember
Phils last night or if it's Saturday's game is going

(10:11):
to be because I think it was last night was
the one that was added because they didn't make it
to Vegas right for the NBA Cups. So you get
two out of the next three in Denver, where I
don't know where the scheduling geniuses came up with this one.
I mean, that's one of those where I don't know.
I guess seeding in the NBA Cup had something to

(10:33):
do with it. I'm not even sure how it all
works out with that, and I'm sure somebody could probably
tell me.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
I don't really care about that.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
What I care more so about this is gonna fester
with you as you face off against New Orleans, and
you need to take out all that pent up aggression
against New Orleans, who comes into this matchup at five
and twenty two. They're gonna have another game before they
face off against the Rockets.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
But for me, you got to get all.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
Of your absolute anger out on this game because I'm
gonna tell you right now, it feels like and it's
gonna feel this way until you actually finally can vanquished
the foe. As long as Denver has Nicola Jokic out
on the court, and as long as this game is
on primetime television like it was last night, They're gonna
do everything possible to guarantee Yokic your win.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
I know that it's not fair.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
I know that you're thinking that I'm working in a
conspiracy theory, Dan of like, oh, the NBA is rigged
and they're only giving it to the superstars.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
But Kevin Durant's a superstar.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
He's at the two. He's not the three time ragning MVP.
He's not, in my opinion, the best player in basketball
right now. If any opportunity with the team that has
been struggling at home can get a shot to get a.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Win, guess who's gonna get the not.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Hey, look, I learned a long time ago the conspiracy
theorists are just people who ask questions, and if you
don't like the answers that you have to give to
those questions, well then that's on you.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
It's not on a conspiracy theory. So then let me
ask you a question. Did you think for one second
that was even close to being a foul by Tim Hardaway? No,
not even close, so it's even a conspiracy.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Here's the thing, too, is because you know the foul
that was called on the jok on Reed Shepherd. So
of course I mean Adelman for for Denver challenges as
he should have. I think the Rockets bench would have
absolutely rioted if they had overturned that, they would have rioted.
I think, so I will say the like they might

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have just walked off the floor and just said, you
know what, just go ahead and call the game like this,
this isn't even worth playing at this point.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
I will say the one carryover that I will have
in favor of the Nuggets to where it did feel
like this is where they count took control. Their bench
played better than the Rockets bench last night. I mean,
you lost Peyton Watson early in the game. I think
you only played like eight or nine minutes, and then
he left with the lawer body injury. His job was
to shut down Kevin Durant. But they were able to
make up with it with Valan Schunis, with Tim Hardaway,

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with Bruce Brown playing at lea playing anywhere between fourteen
to forty minutes, they all were able to at least
make one field goal.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Your bench really really.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
Relied a lot heavily on Reach Shepherd coming on in
and going five to seventeen for the field.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
Yeah, he was still good fourteen points out of him,
But you're right, I mean the rest of the bench
not quite as much. You get three and three out
of both of your bigs, Adams and Capella, and then
you only get a handful of minutes out of Aaron Holidays.
He only played ten last night. So frustrating to say
the least, No doubt about it. I know some of

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you want to get in on it, Roger. You're one
of those people who wants to get in on it.
You want to join them subone three two one two
five seven ninety against subone three two one two five
seven ninety. We'll get to you here to lead off,
coming up here, Roger, and then also to want to
get into a lot of Texans because might the rat
poison be a plenty out there for the Texans as

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they get ready for an incredibly winnable game on Sunday.
You heard Cole's rules yesterday. No previews, I mean there's
there is There is no previewing against a bad team.
So we'll get all into that and everything else too,
maybe a little bit on the astros.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
I mean, to be fair, we don't need.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
Do we really, here's the storyline. The Texans are starting
backups against Las Vegas. That'd be the great storyline for
the week. I would preview that. Actually, Davis Mills is
getting this starts, dare Agomba Wale is actually gonna see
Repsit kicker this week.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Oh how about that.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
We're gonna We're not gonna say we're gonna give Kayimi
the weekend off. Okay, we're gonna give Will Anderson the
weekend off. We're gonna get Daniel Hunter the weekend off.

Speaker 8 (14:11):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
Meanwhile, playing the role of Daniel Hunter, Let's have Jaward
Jordan just pass Russ.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Let's see even get sack on Kenny Picken. It'd be
interesting to see the size dispirity, no doubt about it.
But who knows.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Uh, maybe maybe the Texans could go that route this weekend.
So we will talk about all of that too. And again, uh,
you are as much a part of the show as
me and Cole are. And that means seven one three
two on two five seven ninety get at seven one
three two on two five seven ninety. As we continue
here on a Tuesday here on the Morning Drive Sports

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Talks seven ninety Dan.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Matthews, Cole Thompson. This is the Morning Drive with Dan
and Cole.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
Opening up the conversation this morning talking about that Rockets
game last night, and that's exactly where Roger wants to go.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Roger, good morning, Good.

Speaker 9 (15:04):
Morning Dan, Cole. Uh triply, Hey man. Look, I mean
that was a tough loss yesterday, but guys, we have
got to start shedding this baby brother uh phase that
we're going through right here. I mean, I even put
us down to a tier, a tier a little below
than San Antonio right now because they're collecting some quality
of wins man. We're we're we're we're losing the this

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little this little fire about, you know, getting these these
good wins man, and uh, I hope this this kind
of stuff is gonna be uh uh present later on.
And you know, as the season goes along, the iron
sharper sharpens, iron type of del where we get this
metal fortitude and you know output for all the good
that he does, Man, he cannot he cannot put up

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his arms every time. He thinks. He gets foult every time.
And maybe he does, but he's got to learn how
to do that because the reference gonna look at him
like the gud's crying wolf. You gotta know when to
do stuff like that. You can't just do it every time,
or you're not gonna get the respect. How you get
respect is when the ref see you in the playoffs,
sees you ball in your ass off, then you'll get
some respect. But for now, just play play basketball, man,

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play your game. You know the implosions they killed us,
you know, and Alfie's and I'm sorry enough, and the emails.
Guilty of it too, you know, I know the personnal
takes on the team of the coach. I get it.
But man, you're in a hostile environment. What'd you think
it was gonna be? Did you think there was gonna
be a cupcake walk? Do you think you're not gonna

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get you know, any bad calls? Of course, that's every
time you go into a hostile vitamin, no matter whether
the team sucks or not. You've gotta have some mental fortitude, man,
you gotta you know, you got to grow up in
these type of situations. I see some of it going on,
you know, uh, you know, baby steps or whatever. But
it's time to shed that mentality.

Speaker 10 (16:51):
Man.

Speaker 9 (16:52):
Uh, you know, they bounce back. It still had a
chance to win despite all these you know, implosions in
the first half, and they're going to third in the
third quarter, these little explosions that you know kill a team.
But still yet despite Reed Shepherd going Philip Seymour Hoffman
from along Tame Pauly, it still had a chance to
make the pledge shots. But yeah, you're you're gonna You're

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gonna have to, you know, ridge yourself of this mentality
that you're getting chaded and this. You gotta play ball.
You got you gotta overcome all that crap and play
ball and win. That's just the end of it.

Speaker 8 (17:23):
That's it.

Speaker 9 (17:24):
That's all I got.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
So I appreciate Roger.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
No, no, no, no, no, no. I understand what he's saying. Third quarter,
was it doune going into halftime?

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Was it done?

Speaker 5 (17:33):
You allow them to go on a nine to nothing
run at one point, you were down by nine as much, uh,
you were down by as much as eleven at one point.
So I understand that you played an underwhelming game at moments,
but you fought back.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
You watched as your.

Speaker 5 (17:46):
Team was able to do enough to shut down arguably
the best player on the planet and force him to
have to take threes when.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
He probably wanted to drive to the basket.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
You were able to win when it came to the
consistency from three point range, You were able to be
as a fish it when it came for the field
goal percent you did exactly what you saw Denver do
and it came down to one critical error, and it
was an error that was out of your control in
the face of everybody who saw clear as day that

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Alman Thompson never even shook the leg of Tim Hardawayho
so calls on men Thompson, and it was that one,
and then it was the one in overtime, and both
were egregious, but one specifically should have made sure the
game was over right then and there, but instead you
let him get a shot off, he goes at and
he ties the game. You go to overtime because jokismitch

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the file shot. They go on to seven. Nothing run
to begin, and it feels like all the momentum is
sucked out of you because of if you don't play pristine,
perfect basketball, they're gonna get the call every single time.
They're gonna keep shooting you in the foot and kicking
the can down the road and putting you in a
position to where you can't be successful.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
And look, this isn't a rockets thing. This is We've
seen it all throughout the NBA. But where I will
kind of meet Roger halfway on this is I think
you earned that. I mean, Denver's had to earn this. Denver,
even when they won the world title, it was still
a little bit of it's Denver and I think, okay,
see probably is a little bit in the same boat too.
But I mean I think that respect and that benefit

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of the doubt has earned is as you continue to win.
And I mean not only do you continue to win,
but I mean you've got Kevin Durant here and he's
probably going to get the benefit of some of those
calls at times.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Sure, why not.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
But at the same time though, too, I mean, when
you've got that call, you can't overlook it. When you've
got the simple hand check near the timeline called on
him and Thompson and that allows for two crucial free throws,
then that's not going to help you either. So you
can't you can't you talk about the how you know
you've got to be able to play through it all
of that, and by the way, to Em even talked

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about it in the post game where he was like,
He's like, we continue to play our game. We continued
to be the team that we're supposed to be. So
they're aware of it, they understand, and they're not going
to use it is a full on excuse. But I mean, Roger,
come on, man, you've got to talk about those calls
that were game changing calls.

Speaker 5 (20:07):
Nobody can sit here and say that the Rockets had
an A plus performance last night. They missed several key
shots from three point range. They did drive good out
of the basket to close out the fourth quarter. They
had to fight their way on back is after trailing
my double digits at one point. There's a lot of
things that went against the Rockets because of self inflicted wounds.
But when it comes down to a critical error like

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that that is out of your control and clear as
day that you're watching, the dude just flail his arms
up and basically say save me, officials, save me, ladies
and gentlemen. I want to win in front of the
fans at the Pepsi Center. At that point, you got
to understand, you let the game be played on out
and you put it in the hands of the officials,

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who then decide to lean in favor of the team
that had lost four straight at home and offers more
value when it comes to their ratings being out an
all time high because they have a superstar that they
think can go toe to toe against a team like
against team like Oklahoma City. And I don't think that
the NBA is rigged. I do think the NBA is rigged.
But let me just start here. Oklahoma City and Denver
are the two teams going into the season that many

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people thought would meet in the Western Conference. The betting
odds have those two as the number one and number
two odd to win win the NBA Championship. So guaranteeing
that you and Houston are neck and neck with each other,
one goes into the two seed, one goes in as
the three seed.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
One gets an extra game at home.

Speaker 5 (21:28):
Guess who probably is going to get the benefit of
the doubt, the team that they think can actually go
toe to toe with Oklahoma City and making the best
of seven for ratings purposes, Lo and.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Behold, guess who won last night?

Speaker 5 (21:37):
The team that can go ahead and put better ratings
because it'll be the best team versus the best player.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
It's frustrating to not be on the winning side.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
And I think the Rockets felt like they were right
there to be able to do that last night, but
the last unable to do that because well, a guy
fell down and somehow that was deemed enough contact with
the shin, which I wasn't aware that a shin protruded
about three feet further than it does because that's about
what it would have taken.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
He tripped over his feet. I mean, it's just one
hundred percent what happened.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Tim Hardaway Junior tripped over his feet and men Thompson
gets the call, which don't really understand it, and it
didn't benefit him, didn't benefit the Rockets, and well don't
they lose by three.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Well, don't worry.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
When we get to the Emmys this year and we
say Best Dramatic Performance in the Basketball Game, we already
know who's gonna win that award.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
Yeah, because I mean, you knew if they called that,
they weren't going to. Well, replay showed that he flopped,
so it's a flopping foul. Because again, there were five
total technicals last night.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Cold.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
And you know they obviously, just like they do with
flagrant fouls, they do the same thing with technicals of
individual but also non on sportsmanlike. Well, the Rockets didn't
have a single non sportsman like because they were both
defensive three seconds on Spencer Jones and Nikola Jokic, but
then the three individual ones three to nothing.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
There Rockets over the Nuggets. So tell me that game
wasn't Tell me that hand officiated last night.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
Tell me that that game wasn't in the hands of
those who definitely had a little bit of a say,
and afterwards we're told by Adoka, you were stargazing.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Tell me it wasn't in their hands without telling me
it wasn't in there.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah, he may is going to be getting a nice
little letter from the NBA. And I'm sure you know
that's one of those two because some people may or
may not know this that there are times that an
organization that a player or a coach gets fined and
the organization steps in and says, you ain't paying that.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
I hope they'll be wet because they were. There are
a hundred He's one hundred percent ballid for every single take.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
That he happened I think.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
I don't think the NBA is going to be taking
the the Rockets will be taken out out of his
direct deposit. And again, you know, don't want to get
in people's wallets here, but I get I gotta believe
that the Rockets will be stepping in and saying, hey, hey,
we got your back.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
So he's not gonna have to sell the NBA outn't.
I don't.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
I don't think he's going to be having to a
c H whatever way it is. I don't think will
he be having to see that out of Emadoka. I
wonder if his Vemo account is so in private. Probably is,
Probably is. I gotta believe somebody else runs it for him.
That's one of those you know, hey yo, so and so.
Should I send it to him?

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Yeah? Yeah, should for somebody to actually handle my Vemo account.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
I mean, I always like, I always like to know
where money's changing hands for me. But you know, then again,
I don't. I don't have the high profile that Emia
dookor any of these other people have, So you're not
allowing in my Vemo account.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Okay, Well there you go, all.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
Right, So let's get in a little bit of Texans
here and the Rockets conversation is still readily available to
you if you want to hop in on that.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
I mean, you know how this goes. We mentioned it.
It's fair game.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
So with seven one three two one two five seven
ninety against seOne three two one two five seven ninety,
the love is coming in for the Texans, and one
of the surest ways to know that that love is
coming in is this. We'll discuss what that is as
we continue here on a Tuesday edition of The Morning
Drive with Dan and Coles Sports Talks seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (24:59):
Hey as coach Udoka here every Rockets game on Sports
Talk seven ninety and on the iHeartRadio app Home of
Your Rockets.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
Somebody on Twitter and apologize for not being able to
give proper attribution right now, but they showed just the
side by side of the records and the two teams,
and their caption for it was, is the National Guard
gonna have to step in here?

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Oh, it's not gonna be that bad. It should be
that bad, but it won't be that bad.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Yeah, I mean it's one of those that again, I mean,
these are games that you you would love for the
Texans to just be able to handle business.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
I mean it was.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
It was still a point too, you know during the
game against Arizona where I was like, I mean, maybe
is this Davis Mills time? You know, it's like you're
able to get him in there and tell CJ, Hey, you're.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Done for the day.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
You want midway through the third quarter to feel like that, hey,
second string start warming up. That's what you want. If
you feel like that, you're as good as advertised to go.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
On a on in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
You know what the other sure sign is too that
you're handling business that day is you want either James
Brown or Kurt Menafee, either if you're on CBS or Fox,
to pop in from a commercial break and say, all right,
we're gonna get you to a more competitive game, like
I can remember a couple of times, like I remember
the the Texans a couple of times during the twenty

(26:21):
eleven season, blue doors off of both Tennessee and Tampa Bay,
and it was James Brown because they were both CBS games,
And I remember James Brown stepping in and being like, Okay,
we're gonna get you to a more competitive game.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
But do they do that when it's in your market?

Speaker 5 (26:35):
Yes, I did not know that for some reason that
they had to keep it in the market and then
like when it gets down to like the final two minutes,
then they say, now we're gonna move on.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Well, especially too in the age of the streaming options
that can come along with it too. That's you know,
if that happens, like you know, you could just I mean,
of course, you know, if you've got Sunday Ticket, I'm
sure you could probably just do that, although I'm sure
that's blacked out if it's in your market. But if
they do that, then I got to believe that they
would then click it on on Sunday Ticket, because it's like, well,
I mean you there are probably people out there who say, hey, hey, hey,

(27:06):
I want my Davis Mills time.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
The thing about this game that I continuously will say
that we're not going to preview, even though we have
started a preview this game, and we'll end it right
there to go talk about the Bigger.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Sea were though, like all he's done is just mention
that they're playing someone that's a preview. My thing, Hey,
who's the Texas playing this weekend? The Raiders? We're talking
about it? And why are we talking about the thing?

Speaker 4 (27:26):
Come on Cole nameless, faceless opponent. You know that we
talk with our face masks, all of those things.

Speaker 5 (27:33):
The thing I will say is that with this game,
specifically just this one, there are multiple players that are
going to be dealing with injuries throughout the week. I
would like to see the Texans feel so confident in
where they are as an an identity on the offensive
side of the defensive side. You can rest the Kamari
last or if he's not one hundred percent go, you
don't need to rush back of what he marks. You

(27:54):
don't need to play a Derek Stingley junior at full capacity.
You can trust like not. You can trust having Jamal Hill,
and if EJ. Speed needs another week to heal, you
can trust Christian Harris out there. I'd much rather feel
confident that the Texans know going into this game that's
a reality that they could actually lean into because of
how horrendously pathetic of an excuse a franchise like Las

(28:14):
Vegas is.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Well, maybe some of that belief could come from the
odds makers, at least according to the DraftKings sportsbook. Because
updated Super Bowl odds released yesterday, Los Angeles Rams are
far and away the team to beat right now, at
least according to the odds makers in Vegas, they are
plus three ten to win Super Bowl this year. Seattle

(28:36):
Seahawks right behind them at plus six fifteen. Broncos are
the top AFC team. They're at plus eight hundred, and
right there with them the Buffalo Bills at plus eight hundred.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
So Buffalo had a Houston despite the fact that Houston
beat the crap out of.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Them, So right behind them at plus eleven hundred. Bingo,
that's where you find the Texans along with the defending
Super Bowl champions.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Really the Eagles are that love.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
The Eagles are plus eleven hundred, so I mean they're
still within striking distance. So that's what six teams right there.
And of course you're tied right there for the I
guess fifth best odds in the NFL, because I mean
you've got LA one, You've got Seattle too, you got
Denver and Buffalo right there tied for third and then

(29:24):
tied for fifth. Is you say the Texans belong higher
four than fifth, I mean for exactly what you said
about Buffalo. But I think that you know, there's a
little bit of the odds makers kind of hedging their
bets right now, because they're saying, if you play Buffalo again,
more than likely you're playing them up there. And we
say it all the time in college. We don't say
it as much in the pros that it's hard to
beat a team twice. But I think that's what the

(29:46):
odds makers are telling you, that they they're like, the
Texan's got to prove they can beat them twice.

Speaker 5 (29:50):
Okay, I will fight back and say that the Texans
belong in the number four spot. I can listen to
the other three because what do those they have in
common that Buffalo doesn't they beat you?

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Least?

Speaker 5 (30:00):
I could say, well, Denver one, even though this shouldn't
have won. There's a flute playing should have got a
stop on bo Nicks. We'll let you have never been
in field goal range the game against Seattle, and that
was one that you just did not show up in
the first half. And this in the Los Angeles game.
I've gone back and I've rewatched that tape. I completely
understand that. Yes, the Darigonbawalle was critical. The Davis Allen

(30:21):
touchdown that was let up by CJ. Garner Johnson was
kind of a neglected play and blown coverage. But to
be completely transparent, you couldn't slowtw on puking Akua.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Nikola was gonna eat that day.

Speaker 5 (30:31):
He was gonna get his yardage, he was gonna put
himself in a position to.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Where they could win.

Speaker 5 (30:35):
So that really Seattle and in Los Angeles are the
only two teams that it felt like it was a
non competitive game at times, because it truly was a
non competitive game. Therefore, I can understand them being ahead
of you.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
All right, So the cheese is out there to be
eaten by the Texans. But you know the old saying,
don't take the cheese. But like I said, there's plenty
of it out there, and we'll let you hear said.
Cheese coming up right here as we can see you
on the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole on Tuesday
Sports Talk seven ninety Back.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
To Danny Cole as the Morning Drive cruise is on.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
Yeah, when you make a story like that, I'm gonna
give you your credit and give you your flowers, which
Chip did do before him.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
It's a very baseball thing that you notice it more
than any other And I mean, I'm not gonna take
that away from like, you know, people who cover other
sports but baseball, the people are usually really good about it.
Of like if Chandler Rome was first on it, you know,
Jeff pass And will say Chandler Rome was first.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Our good buddy Ari Alexander now up in Boston.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
You spe with KPRC too, if he had some scoopage
like I remembered once John Hayman, Ari Alexander was was first. Yeah,
Ari Alexander was first on it.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Tea was the one who had it. See, whenever you
say John Hayman.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Sean Hamen, does he even need to have a an impersonation?

Speaker 5 (31:53):
The thing I think of when you say John Hayman
is like Team America World Police where he says Matt
Damon and I just want to say his.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Name like the exact same. I'm not coming with you anymore, jan,
Like that's the only right we might have to bring
that one back.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
Like maybe that's like a Christmas show or something like that,
that we bring back the Johnnyman.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
If you go with the w ifi, Yeah, not coming
on with you anymore.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
Oh okay, Well you know see the only thing that
would have been better in that spot would have been
if the host had said, why so you can get
more things wrong. So anyways, what we just twist the knife.
I mean at that point, like once it's once it's done,
then you know, go ahead and go with it.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
So what are we right about with the Houston Texas?
All right? So the rat poison it's a plenty. I mean,
you know see it all the time.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
You you want to catch some rats, well, you know,
throw some cheese out there and throw some stuff in it.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Hey, this cheese is delicious. Oh god, it's not.

Speaker 5 (32:47):
I don't know where you live where rats are infesting
your livelihood, but they are far away from me.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
No, I mean it's it's I've been lucky enough. Knock
on wood, make sure you know you keep those vermin away.
But anyway, so the crew on the NFL on CBS,
even though the Texans were not there on Sunday, they
were on Fox, Chris Myers and Mark Schlareth on the call. Well,
you know, as the noontime games were coming to an end,

(33:12):
they were starting to talk about some of the other games.
They spent a really good amount of time talking about
the Texans six game winning streak, defenses, playing out of
their mind, all of those things. Things are looking good
for the Texans, right now, well, a couple of bits
of audio from them, and then one from a former coach,
another former coach out there that we've got for you.
So we'll start first with the CBS crew former quarterback

(33:35):
Matt Ryan. He knows a little bit about trying to
make it to the big game. Well, I mean, he
got there right here in this fair city and we
obviously know that all played out. But he believes that
Demiko Ryans is the catalyst for this season turning around
for the Texans, and he thinks it comes down to
two decisions that were made by the Texans head coach.

Speaker 11 (33:55):
Demiko felt like it was best for him to step
back from that play calling role and allow assistant coaches
to go into that. He also had to go over
to the offensive side of the ball and say what
we have been doing is not good enough, correct and
we have to spend and invest more time there. And
that's what I think great leaders do.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
And I mean, you know, we had the audio last
week from Dan Orlovsky where Orlovsky was talking about that
c J. Stroud has massively improved this season and Nick
Kayley has massively improved this season.

Speaker 5 (34:24):
He's gotten better with the decisive play calling, the execution.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
I still have questions about it time.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
Now, and we've seen that too with the pre snap penalties.
And you know, last week, finally able to have one
hundred yard runner. But at the same time though too
more than half of that coming on one play. But still,
I mean able to have that. So maybe that's encouraging
going forward, but even more for the CBS crew. I mean,
a guy that knows what it takes to win a
Super Bowl, getting to the Super Bowl, all of those

(34:51):
different things.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
The chen Bill Kawer.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
He also bestowing some praise on the Texans by just
flat out saying, this team's legit.

Speaker 12 (35:00):
I watched them against the Kansas City Chiefs when the
Kansas City Chiefs were desperate on a Sunday night, and
I tell you they went toe to toe with them.
That is one football team. Defensively you're gonna get in there.
I wouldn't want to play him. I think it's the
best defense in football right now, playing at the highest
of levels. And they got a quarterback who's starting to
feel his oats right now, and they got a running.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Game that goes with that.

Speaker 12 (35:21):
The Houston Texas than me, I'll tell you what you
better buckled up, and you.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
You called him the chin? But chin? I thought they
were for MBST. Who's the chin? Now? No?

Speaker 5 (35:33):
Not me, that's no, that's the only chin that I
know of. No, in this case, it's it's it's Bill.
Who has ever called him the chin? I've heard him
called the chin numerous times. I have never heard that
I've had. I've heard him be called coach, and I've
heard him be called Bill.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
I'm sure you could probably just look it up, and
I'm sure is it worth a google?

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Marty Huggins, Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. But in this case,
Kirk Sidnetta has Kurt Signetti. You know, I win, Google
me say no.

Speaker 5 (35:57):
But but Bill Coward does he win? I mean I
guess because he did what?

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah, he did?

Speaker 4 (36:01):
I mean, you know he and he was a longtime
head coach of the Steelers, and there's a reason why
they've only had so many of them there but cheap Yeah,
Bill Kauer, I mean, you know feeling the Texans where
in an earlier bit of audio he had thrown out
pack of lunch. So you heard him right there, buckle
it up and get a good week's sleep. That's what
he said. Is you could hear it a little bit

(36:23):
when Nate Burlison was jumping in there.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Okay, it says the jaw here, not the chin. Okay,
the jaw at the chin.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
No, there's a giant difference because one worked on late
night NBC, the other one works for CBS Primetime.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Also, okay, fine, the lower part of the head. What
do you want me to say?

Speaker 3 (36:40):
I like to say. The next person was giving confidence
to the Texans.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Yes, there you go. Well, in this case, we got
to wake up barstool with Dave Portenoy and the crew
over there over on FS one, and they have the
coach Johan Gruden on on Mondays and the coach boy,
he's a Texans believer.

Speaker 13 (36:58):
And I'm going with the Houston tech man. I just
think they are surgeon. They are special on defense. And
it's not just the pass rushers, it's not just the corners.
It's a collection of really good players, and Scroud has
taken off. I think they're playing with great confidence. I
wouldn't be surprised to see Seattle play Houston.

Speaker 14 (37:19):
I know the networks would love that.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
It was him and Greg Olsen and they were doing
you know, who are your Super Bowl teams right now,
and Olsen said, la as in the Rams.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Which I can completely agree with on that one, and
the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
He just said that Josh Allen, he believes, is starting
to round his game in the shape where he is
going to be a difference. And then I believe that
somebody even brought up during that conversation. They're like, they
can't stop the run. That's a problem.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
Now they also can't protect the quarterback at the time.
He's got to run for his life and you gotta
be going up against terrible defensive fronts. They're going to
allow him to get upfield. And you saw that happen
in the time that they were here in Houston. But then, yeah,
you just heard the coach right there his work Seattle
and also the Texans wh by the way too, You're
gonna get a Seattle and Rams Thursday night football. That's

(38:05):
this Thursday, isn't it. Stat is going to decide who
gets the division. That may also decide who I think
gets the first overall seed and controls the pathway to
the Super Bowl in the NFC.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
I want to bring this up with you. I'm gonna
tease it.

Speaker 5 (38:21):
I'm on agreeance with with everybody else, including Larry and Stafford,
because you had to convert me yesterday and how to
go ahead.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
And chastise me at the same time you have seen
the light. I've more so just had to go ahead
and push them against the clock.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
Anyways, Texans, I do believe should be considered a favorite
to win the Super Bowl. I believe that they have
shown you enough at this point to put them in
the conversation alongside Denver, alongside Buffalo, and I would go
as far as say, the three teams in the NFC,
there's one caveat, and unfortunately, I don't think it's going
to be corrected. So you're gonna have to find a

(38:54):
way to win without fixing this one fatal flop.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
All right, Cole's got that for you.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
As we get into the seven o'clock hour, you want
to get on the Texans seven one three two one
two five seven ninety against seOne three two one two
five seven ninety. As we continue here on a Tuesday,
it is the Morning Drive, Dan and Cole Sports SOX
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Speaker 3 (39:15):
EHD two Houston, Home of the Astro and the Rockets.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
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Drive with Dad and Cole.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
How about your Baris Smith Junior leading the charge. I
thought he was going after one of the Nuggets players
when he had you know, the index finger out pointing,
and you know, he was yelling at somebody, and then
I saw the official walk across and I was like, oh, that's.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
The official again.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
The Zebras decide to cost the Rockets an absolute nut
SERI win that would have put you in the conversation
of being the favorites alongside with Oklahoma City to win
the NBA title. But lo and behold, you lose four
games at home at the Pepsi Center. Somehow, some way,
Kevin Durant' not alonger the shiny toys now, Nikola Jokic
and the Joker got the last laugh.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
And that they did.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
So they win that one by three in overtime one
twenty eight, one twenty five. The Texans, who are going
to talk about right here over they well, I mean,
you know, hopefully they're not going to need an overtime
win on Sunday. Maybe that's as far into the previewing
as we'll do against the Las Vegas Raiders. But Cole,
you threw something out about the Texans, and go ahead
and give yourself a chance now to lay that out

(40:37):
for the audience.

Speaker 5 (40:38):
Texans this season have been phenomenal on the defensive side.
Their top five in every single metric offensive I mean,
defensive stops, total yards allowed, they're down conversion, pass coverage,
run defense, explosive plays. They're awesome on that side of
the football. You already mentioned this. In the offense I
think has at least found some bit of a night daddy.

(40:58):
Remember last game, if you take away the kneel down,
they scored on eight drives.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
That's impressive. I get it. It's against a lowly Arizona
Cardinals team. They suck.

Speaker 5 (41:08):
They're already punting towards twenty twenty six. Your offense has
not looked that good all season. And for you to
be able to have that kind of spark, that jolt,
setting the tone early with the Nico Collins touchdown, getting
up seventeen nothing, you gotta be impressed with how well
this team is playing right now on that side, and
CJ shall lookd awesome. The problem that I still have

(41:28):
the thing that I think is going to hurt the
Texans their red zone offense. It's unfortunate, but it's not
changing anytime soon. If you are going to win the
Super Bowl this year, if you were going to be
able to go toe to toe with Los Angeles, with Buffalo,
with Denver, I'll go as far as say Seattle, any
one of those teams. You have to be able to

(41:49):
get something going inside the red zone or better yet,
I think at this point you gotta just punt on
the red zone execution because you know that you're selling
for field goals. You're putting too much pressure on Kaymi Fairband,
the bill you out of trouble, You're gonna have to
start winning with explosives. This is gonna be the big
test that I'm looking for over the next three games,
because I'm at this point, I'm kind of just done
with the red zone offense. You know that when you

(42:10):
get inside the twenty, you're more than likely settling for
a three points instead of seven. I'm looking for more explosives.
How can you get more shots Soundfield and Nico Collins.
How can you get more involved with Jalen Nole, How
can you get Jaden Higgins more adapted to getting on
the twenty yard plays. What about Xavier Hutchinson, what about
Dalton Schultz? How are you able to create avenues increases
for the rushing attack to find plays in the open field.

(42:32):
Because at this point I feel more confident that you're
at the forty and that you're gonna get a thirty
eight yard touchdown pass, or you're at the forty five
and you're gonna get a forty two yard run than
I am about you inside the fifteen capitalizing getting points.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
Well, I mean, and you know playoff football, we know
what it is. It's about maximizing, and maximizing is being
able to have those opportunities make the most of them.
I think that the compromise here is field goals aren't
deadly for you in the playoffs. Yes, you want six,
but if you've got to settle for three, you know

(43:06):
you can trust your defense. I think the name of
the game right there is don't get shut outs, either
by turnover on downs or turning the football over. Either
of those is death for you.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
But at the same time, right now you are the
thirtieth ranked red zone offense.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
There's only two teams worse than you.

Speaker 5 (43:22):
The Baltimore Ravens, who right now are in the playoffs
outside looking in. And then you throw in the New
Orleans Saints, who have already looked for toward twenty twenty six.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
They're down in this season.

Speaker 5 (43:31):
Every win is actually hurting them rather than helping them
to build up for draft capital. But still, when I
look at the team, every other opponent can find ways
to be successful inside the red zone. You look at
the Buffalo Bills, a team that we've compared a lot of.
The Texans two is probably the other favorite to win
the AFC. They're top seven in red zone efficiency. They're
also great on third down execution. They're exceptional on third down.

(43:54):
They're number three in the NFL in scoring. They're number
two in the NFL in total yards per game. They're
in the top five in points per play. So every
little detail that actually is a good benefactor on top
of the red zone efficiency says that they're more likely
to get six points than three. And so at this standpoint,
if you're facing off against a team like Buffalo, if

(44:14):
Buffalo gets with inside the twenty, it may end up
being down to the wire. But if they go for
it on fourth down, they may end up converting and
getting into the end zone, where for the Texans you
have to settle for three because if you have to
take points. And that's where I'm sitting with the Texans
right now. Is not that I think that they're a
bad team, not that I don't think that they can
be a competitive roster, not that I don't think that
they can go on a run and make it to

(44:34):
their first ever AFC title game.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
Not even if they can't win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
But at this moment, I'm not trusting their offensive personnel
to be inside the fifteen and get six points. And
I think that's where the difference is between a Denver,
between a Seattle, between the Los Angeles, between a Buffalo.
All those teams right now, you feel confident that they're
gonna be able to punch it on in against any defense,
including the number one Texans defense.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
I don't feel that way for Houston.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
I think the good news is, though, that the interior
of your line is starting to shape up. I mean
it has been a good move having Titus Howard over
there helping out the rookie left tackle and nursery with
him at left guard, Jake Andrews at the center has
been serviceable.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
He's been fine.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
And then you know ed Ingram had a rough week
against Kansas City, but I think he bounced back in
a pretty decent way.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Fine, it wasn't great.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
It was nothing to r at home about, which again
I think you'd rather hear that than something negative.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
But here's the other part of it too, that for
some of your red zone woes, where's Nico Collins, Where's
Dalton Schultz in these situations? Where's even two another guy
that you brought in that's got sized Jayden Higgins?

Speaker 3 (45:39):
Where are those three guys?

Speaker 8 (45:41):
Like?

Speaker 4 (45:41):
Why why aren't you know those guys counted on a
little bit more? Where we got stuffed here? Well, we
got driven back here and then on third down that's
when it's kind of a jail break. Let's go for
it here, and you know it's it's most times not
going to work out for you. And then here it
comes number fifteen out and he's gonna put his right
foot into the football and you hope it goes to
the upright.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
But at the same time, shouldn't you feel like, at
this point in the season, the play design what you know,
does not work inside the red zone needs to be
careed to what has been successful, because again, look at
some of the drives that they had, they went they
were three or six inside the red zone.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
They settled for three field goals. They settled for.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
Two touchdowns, and one was a Fluke touchdown, which I
thought was really impressive by CJ maneuverating outside and finding
Dalton Shoultz.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
So again you had a big tip. My bad not
that one. The Woody Mark touchdown was the Fluke touchdown
because it should.

Speaker 5 (46:26):
Have been a fumble. Wasn't a fumble? You jumped over
the line. What I look at is why are we
now in week fifteen still running plays that no longer
are beneficial to us? Because if we know that we
don't have the great protection upfront, we know at this
point that there are certain limitations when it comes to
the receiving cores and that you're gonna need CJ to

(46:47):
move outside the pocket to be able to find any
consistency in the passing attack. And I again, that's a
good thing to at least you know that there are
some strengths to this team that probably are going to
be a reason why you can believe it will turn around.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
But it still feels like the one area.

Speaker 5 (47:02):
Of weakness that can't be fixed, and I don't know
if it will this year or ever. Underneath him is
Nick Cayley's play Structuring. When you're inside it's fifteen.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
I'd say it's arrogance, but I don't want you to
look at it in a negative way. I think it's
arrogance from the standpoint of we believe in our guys.
We're gonna show we believe in our guys up front.
I think that's kind of what you see there, but
it's also too at the same time. I mean running
a boot, running a counter, or you know, toss either
of those plays to kind of stretch things out a
little bit. I mean, you've got what he marks. He's

(47:32):
good in the open field. Jamar Jordan just showed you
that the other day. He's good in the open field.
I mean, we're watching Sunday night football and the second
touchdown of the game, scored by Minnesota is one of
those where I call it the battering ram and the
flash bang there on those you know, goal line situations
where you think, you know, hey, let's bunch everybody up here,

(47:53):
let's really cut off those gaps, and then you see
McCarthy go ahead and take it himself where you're like, oh, hey,
they stopped him, and then nope, there's McCarthy.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
He's got the football and he's doing the you're this
small what the football going into the end zone.

Speaker 5 (48:07):
Yeah, but at the same time he was able to score.
So that's the difference, and that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
That's what I'm saying is is using again battering ram
and flash bang right there.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
But like you do you have the battering ram for
Houston right now? I mean I think that absolutely.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
You know, you want to put Cayden Kate Stover as
as a full back there to be able to provide
a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Maybe do you even go a little bit of a
jumbo formation there?

Speaker 5 (48:30):
But are you going to see another illegal formation where
Blake Fisher's line up in the neutral zone?

Speaker 4 (48:34):
That's the risk you run. It's not like this team
doesn't have that in their back pocket.

Speaker 5 (48:40):
You think about this, the last two times that you
ran with a battering ram style or the farmer fran
type of mentality of just pushing forward with Kate Stover,
whatever you want to call it. Play both times that
you were able to try to execute it offensive lineman
line up in the neutral zone.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
How do you have.

Speaker 5 (48:57):
An off side if you're an offensive lineman. It just
it does it make sense. So at this point it
feels like that that play is going to be negated
because of every single time you run it, it's a
loss of five. Not because the defense is figuring out
what you're doing. It's because of you have the self
inflicted room to shoot yourself and then put yourself.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
Now from a third and one to a third and six,
you're basically running the tush push but not getting the
benefit of it, because I mean, part of it of
what works for Philadelphia when they run that play is
that your guards are jumping early.

Speaker 5 (49:26):
Sure, but at the same time they've had years to
perfect it. And that's the other problem is that at
some point officials are so accustomed to seeing the way
they run it.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
That's the only team that's allowed to run it.

Speaker 5 (49:37):
Everyone else is trying to figure out a way to
be able to make that execute properly. But they don't
have enough juice. So they don't have enough enough of
a position where they can make the jump, make the jump,
or have an offensive linean lineup right on the ball,
or in the neutral zone to where it they lean forward.
They're getting the benefit of the doubt where Philadelphia they're
able to perfect where you quite literally see snapsap almost there,

(50:00):
but it's still is off sides. It's enough thoughout to
go to nose it with the naked eye.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
All right, Well, the Texans aren't part of it this year,
but this year it's also not as good. We'll discuss
and explain what we mean right here as we continue
here on The Morning Drive with Dan and Cole Sports
Talk at seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
The Morning Drive with Dan and Cole on Sports Talk
seven ninety, home of the Strolls, Rockets, and Houston's best
sports talk.

Speaker 5 (50:28):
Ravens will Beyonce performance with the halftime show.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
That was the right and then you know you had
Cal and Hannah riding out on the uh you know, convertible,
that kind of stuff. I mean, that was pretty much
the game, because well the game itself for the Texans,
it's stunk, not good.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
And I don't remember who the night game was that year,
but there wasn't game, so they only had those two.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
Okay, so because yeah, you've got you've got Thursday night
football this year, so they'll they'll have that. But so
before the season began, if I gave you this, where
the noontime game on Netflix, Cowboys at Commanders, you would
have thought, I mean, even though.

Speaker 5 (51:08):
Interesting not to see. Okay, now here's the thing, heritage matchup.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (51:13):
I was not sold on the Commanders being a playoff
team this year because I felt like we did not
learn from them mistakes as a society with CJ.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Stroud.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
When it came to Jaydon Daniels, I figured that we
were going to see them still be a team that
maybe was good, but they weren't.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
A laite Now. So the Cowboys, I thought that Brian
Shottenhammer is gonna be one and done. He may not
even be the head coach going into this game. But
still heritage matchup. That's fine. I agree with you on that.
That's a good way to put it in.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
All right, So you get that one to start things off,
you get the Lions at the Vikings. Probably the same
deal there. You would have thought, I mean, not necessarily
in terms of heritage, but you would have thought two
teams probably battling for playoff positioning of the Vikings to mark.

Speaker 5 (51:52):
A number one seed personally, even with JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
They it felt like that Minnesota went all in this year.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
So the Allions currently are on the outside looking in
for a chance to be able to make the NFC playoffs,
and the Vikings, even with the win on Sunday night
against the Cowboys, they are six and eight and they're
not even in the playoff picture.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
As a matter of fact, they're done. They're eliminating, right,
yes they are.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
There are three teams that still have a chance to
make it in the NFC. Detroit's one of them, Carolina
obviously another one. Of course, they're real only chances to
be able to win the AFC Era, the NFC South,
and then the Cowboys, who have a less than one
percent chance. So the Cowboys have to have like seven
teams in front of them just fall completely.

Speaker 5 (52:36):
Rules is that they cannot win. They cannot win a
wild card spot. They need to win on out in
Philadelphia has to lose on outs. So Philadelphia even wins
one game, so they are the playoff pictchers. So there's
only only two teams.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
So there you go, and then you get the Thursday
night game Broncos at the Chiefs, which, by the way,
did you see And maybe we could have this in
uh the look at the Shield that we're going to
you here in the final segment of this hour. But
Chris Jones didn't even know that they were eliminated. Like

(53:08):
he was answering and then he was like, you know,
and then finally somebody had to be.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Like, yeah, yeah, you're elimining. You know the meme.

Speaker 5 (53:14):
You see the dude with the weird face and he's
like putting his hand on the shoulder and just like smilingly.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
Yeah, Chris, I hate to be that guy.

Speaker 10 (53:21):
Buddy.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Yeah, Hey, buddy, this is not gonna go the way
that you hope it's going to go.

Speaker 5 (53:25):
I knew that you wanted to go ahead and end
your career on a high note, but you're gonna have
to come back another season. Hey Travis, Travis, any buddy, listen,
I know that you thought that this was gonna be
the year you could go ahead and make an announcer
with Taylor. Let's come back at twenty twenty seven and
reevaluate some things.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
Okay, so the Chiefs not part of it, but at
least from the AFC side, I mean, the Colts and
the Ravens are the only ones. The Colts are pretty
much in the same you know category as the Carolina Panthers.
I mean, you know, the Texans right now have the
tiebreaker over them. You feel like the Texans are gonna
be able to take care of busines this in that
final game of the season, Philip rivers against this defense.

Speaker 5 (54:05):
I mean, he on his own for the most part,
against the Seattle defense of his.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
No, no, no, no, we are not doing that.

Speaker 5 (54:13):
I am respecting my elders and saying that a forty
four year old who goes off the couch, not even
off the bench, coming on in and playing at least
a competitive football game against the Seattle team that some
people believe has a better shot of going to the
Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
I will give him credit and say that's at least
an intriguing game.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
Perhaps a role reversal right there, because normally it's me saying,
hey man, why don't you respect the elders. So I
like that right there, I pulled the UNO reverse card
on you right now, it right back to you. But
I'm just saying those those can say now draw four,
those those those underneath routes, not just yet, not just yet.
I have to remember how to play, you know. But

(54:53):
that those underneath throws against this Texans defense.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
Well, I mean that's the only thing he can do.
I okay, are you a dog with the wolf? Yeah,
you wanna keep going with the wolfs.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
I'm just saying, you know, smoke him if you got him,
if you're an Indie fan against this Texans defense in
the final week of the season.

Speaker 5 (55:10):
So we're saying, smoke all the cigars because they're gonna
claim a playoff spot with forty four year old Philip Rivers.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
Is he claims comeback Player of the Year. No, No,
that's not happening.

Speaker 5 (55:19):
Do you think at some point they switch over to
Anthony Richardson or they just say, no, we're running. We
brought this guy out of retirement, We took away five
years of his life from going to Canton.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Now he has to finish off the season.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
Hey look, man, you know you talk about business decisions
all the time.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
The insurance was running out, so you got the opportunity. Hey,
I get five more years of NFL paid insurance for
my ten kids. You're damn right, I'm gonna take advantage.
Are you gonna let him sit on the bench now?
Are you gonna let him play this game? No, I mean,
if he's the here, I think he plays.

Speaker 5 (55:47):
That's my thing is that I don't think at any
point now with him being a part of the organization
and actually playing in Sunday's matchup with Anthony Richdon coming
on back, that's a great story, dude. I'm happy that
maybe the former number four overall pick is not blind
in one for working out with the working out with
the rubber band ball. But still, like, I'm sorry, I'm
taking away this guy's opportunity.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
To be in Canton.

Speaker 5 (56:08):
You're playing, and you're playing, and you're boostering up your
stat lines hopefully be able to say that there's even
a more impressive part of the resume that gets you
in as a first ballot.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
The NFL is king.

Speaker 4 (56:18):
But with these three games that I threw out on
Christmas Day, is there a chance that the gap is
shortened between the NFL and the NBA, Because, I mean,
the NFL pretty much a few years ago said to
the NBA, Yeah, that's cute that you think you have
Christmas Day. We'll go ahead and show you who's gonna
really have Christmas Day. But in this case right here,

(56:39):
I don't know. I mean, I know that the Rockets
play the Lakers. That's gonna get a good amount of
eyes on it.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Calvs Nicks.

Speaker 5 (56:44):
Start off your day, Spurs Thunder is the Midway game.
The four to thirty game is the Warriors Mavericks. The
seven o'clock game is the Lakers Rockets. The nine to
thirty game is the Nuggets Timberwolves.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
Almost, I was gonna say, I almost feel like the
NBA might might be able to not going to win
the ratings. I mean, the NFL will win their it's
just you say that you have two NFL teams playing,
and people are like, you know, oh, NFL football, I
only get so many of these Sundays and Saturdays and
in Thursdays and Mondays, like, yes, yes, absolutely, I want
to be a part of that up.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
So you're saying that the NFL is going to get
the ratings over the NBA.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
Yes, they still will, but it's not it's not going
to be as as wide a margin as you've seen
in previous years.

Speaker 5 (57:24):
Really, you actually believe that they're going to have better
ratings despite the fact that two of those games are
on a streaming service and the third one is also
on a streaming service.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
The fans have shown you without a shadow of a doubt,
win in doubt. Football went in doubt. Absolutely, the NFL, for.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Sure, are you not? Are you going to watch all
three of those games?

Speaker 5 (57:41):
The NFL games? Yeah, for sure, I may watch one.
I may watch one, and it's because if I have
Amazon Prime.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
I mean, I'm going to watch the Cowboys Commanders for sure,
and then maybe loosely pay attention to Lions and Vikings.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Although I think we're playing golf on Christmas Day, so
I'm like you, miss, I'm not.

Speaker 5 (57:58):
I'm not going to be the money on Netflix to
go ahead and watch the games.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
Well, I mean, that's why it helps to know people
who have subscriptions and you can just watch it all there.

Speaker 5 (58:07):
So I can't do that anymore because they catch you.
They you have to do have a per household if
the person's there. Why you're telling me that I have
to go over to my parents' house, sit down in
front of their television, and spend Christmas Day celebrating you know,
the holidays to watch a football game.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
I mean, how Baud, do you want to watch the game?
How About I want to be around my in laws?
How about do I want to be around my family?
Is the bigger question. Do you like your family? That's
the next question.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
I mean, let's see, it's December sixteenth, talk to me
in ten days, Okay, See, dude, that's part of it.
I mean, you know, as much as man, I'm gonna
have to be careful here because because I do have yours.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
I'm just saying, if it's one side of the family,
then sure, you know I will. If it's another side
of the family, then I defer to my safe space,
and that's football, because then I don't have to, like,
you know, take part in games and all the other
things that when it comes to the holiday seasons that
I don't really want to do.

Speaker 5 (59:01):
Yeah, but I'm gonna have to just sit there and
have to listen to all the nonsensical crap just to
watch a football game if I want to.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
Not necessarily just eyes on the screen and then you know,
background noise, Dan Matthews.

Speaker 5 (59:13):
That's the problem is that I have to deal with
everyone in the background having their conversations. Hey guys, guys,
Jared Goff's got third and twenty three. I'm trying to
hit a six way parlay. He's got to connect on
this pass right now to Jameson Willias all about boundaries, man,
throw up those boundaries right there. Just be like, hey,
I need I need silence here.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
Oh, because they're totally gonna listen to the to the
thirty two year old. I mean, why not say it
with enough conviction, say their house?

Speaker 5 (59:37):
Do you go to somebody else's house to say, guys,
I need you to be quiet in your house?

Speaker 3 (59:41):
No? No, So why would you think that my family
be okay with I.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
Said, I set the foundation years ago that when it
came to watching games, and then you come and ask
me if I want to play Uno or whatever the
hell you're you're playing.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Are you visiting said house well for a Christmas No,
it's just gonna be U. You know me and the family,
right No?

Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
No, no, are you visiting their house? Are they coming
over to your place?

Speaker 7 (01:00:04):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
No, no, we're going I'm going to them. So you
don't make the rules in their house.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
Well, but I also know that the family I'm going
to be is not going to be one that I
have to be like, oh man, I don't want to
do this.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
See, but that's the beauty about what your family dynamics are.
My family looks at me and goes, that's really cute.
Signing up and start getting ready to decorate gingerbread houses
because you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Don't have a say in this.

Speaker 5 (01:00:23):
This is not a This is not a conversation of
a good of a good leadership where you have a
position in the household. This is a dictatorship. Sit down,
shut up, and start sprinkles. That's my game plan, gingerbread
houses on Christmas Day.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
We'll do it the week before.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
Who cares, I was gonna say, I mean, you usually
you want to do that before. That's like, you know,
putting out a point setia on Christmas Day, It's like,
what's the point You're taking it down less than twenty
four hours point setio.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
That was point set up. I think it's like one
way or the What is it called?

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Do you know?

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
No? I do not. It's it's I know it's I've
heard it. I've heard it both ways. I say it
point SETI. It's like flower on rose. Yeah, I think
I think it's like, uh, you know red voss, red vase.
Did you just call it a voss?

Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
Well, I mean some people will, but those people no,
I've always just called it a vase. Okay, what do
you call the word that starts with the P and
ends with the can.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
Oh p con it's p can no, it's pecan.

Speaker 15 (01:01:16):
How do I?

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
How do you so?

Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
I'm the man out of this one? P U h
C A h N P e c A N P
can no con.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
You want you want them? Yankee folks. That's that's what
your problem is. Seven nine?

Speaker 5 (01:01:31):
Am I right to say that Dan Matthews does not
get to have a say when he goes over to
someone else's house what the game plan is? Or do
you have the final say of being able to tell
a family I'm watching football emeal.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
This is gonna be dressing and stuffing all over again.
I'm just gonna go ahead and warn you on that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:47):
I'm fine with it. It's called listen. Dressing is a sauce.
Stuffing is a type of condiment that you put alongside
your turkey.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
It's all good, and you just you just don't get
in the uh of the starches. Uh, I mean you
know stuff that he uh damn addressing that he Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
I'm sorry, did we not hear that altogether? Lady and Jones?
It was a Freudian slip, is what it was.

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
Sary was the harsh reality of knowing that Cole Thompson
was right in this one.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
Nah incorrect, false news, U F fake news, sir, all right,
what is not fake news is the fact that quarterbacks
they are jumping in and then some. And we'll get
into a little bit of college football discussion here as
we continue here on the Morning Tribe. Don't forget to
look at the shield coming up here in about ten minutes.

(01:02:31):
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Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Obviously.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
The one of note around here being the willis Guy
DJ Lagway saying that Florida is no longer the place
for him now he will be elsewhere. Sam Levitt sounds
like he is leaving Arizona State. Dylan Royola, Dylan Rye
and say you later. So plenty of quarterbacks who are
saying that their old spot was no longer the right

(01:04:27):
spot for them and now going to be elsewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
That is not what they said.

Speaker 5 (01:04:31):
What they said was, mmm, I can make more money
on the open market here, sign me on up.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
How about Trinidad Chambliss though yesterday meeting with the media
at ole Miss and it's kind of one of those
you do that at and T commercial.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Can't transfer out after you do that one.

Speaker 5 (01:04:48):
No Ale Miss paid for that, almost paid for you
to make a joke about the transfer portal. You were
not allowed to leave at that standpoint. If you get
the elgibility waiver.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
Brother, I mean, how many times have we seen it?
Now that these college kids have learned pretty quickly. Oh
you want to make this a business? Huh Okay, I'll
make it a business. Oh how dare you leave? We mean,
how dare I leave? I'm doing what's right for me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Okay, time out, time out.

Speaker 5 (01:05:10):
I'm gonna play the devil's advocate here because if I
know where you're going with this one. So Treandad Shambliss,
the starting quarterback for the ole Miss Rebels, was asked yesterday,
if you get the eligibility waiver, will you consider returning
for another year or will you enter the transfer portal?
And he gave a very fair diplomatic answer, but an
open ended question of I don't know, which led to

(01:05:31):
people assuming, well, his coach just love to go down
to Baton Rouge Louisiana. They need, they need a new
signal caller. They're gonna pay me a lot of money
to leave. You would be pissed off if you were
an Ole Miss fan if you heard that your quarterback
who just led you to an eleven to one season
was leaving to go play for your arch rival. And

(01:05:53):
the reason why you're not mad is is I'm looking
at your sweatshirt and it has a tiger, and you
want to see that guy come.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
Play for your team. Sucks to suck.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
I mean, look, there's certain people who can go knock
on doors and say hey, we're coming for your coach.
I mean, look, they can do that to Louisiana Monroe.
We can go to other power for programs and say hey,
we're taking your coach and there's nothing you can do
about it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:14):
Okay, but but be completely honest, who would you rather
have as a quarterback? One year of trend thatt chaandless
or potentially two years of DJ Lagway.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
I would probably go Lagway, okay, but I mean two
at the same time. I mean it's kind of the
same deal of you know, you look at players now
where people, oh, you know, these coaches are allowed to leave,
you know, whenever they want. Yeah, sure, okay, Well then
don't bitch when the players can do it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
See, I'm not complaining about that because I completely agree
with you. If a coach is allowed to say I
don't want to be around for the college football playoff,
a player can say I stuck around. Now, I'm going
to do what's best for me and my family moving
forward and for my career. What I'm going to push
back in is say, for a guy like Trade at
Chambless Ole, Miss was the only school that gave you
a fair shake when it came to playing for a DROGM.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
I know who did it. I know who did it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:03):
But who's paying for him to now be the face
of the organization. Who's paying for him to make sure
that he is staking around with the program, Who's making
sure that he is the number one asset for a
team as they go on their first run in the
college football playoff. I think personally you kind of want
to hold out hope for that one. And on the
flip side, I'll take it this way, Lane Kiffin wants
to be able to establish a long term culture out

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in Baton Ridge, Louisiana.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
That's totally fine.

Speaker 5 (01:07:27):
Why are you gonna bring in a guy who may
or may not get the eligibility waiver sign on the
dotted line to come on back when there's a kid
up currently in ann Arbor that you had at that
school sign sealed delivered until Dave Portnoy necessarily to go
ahead and match any offer to guarantee that he stuck around.
And he doesn't know who's going to be his head coach,
he doesn't know who's going to be his offensive coordinator,

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he does not know who is going to be a
part of his personnel. And I'm gonna throw it out
there just to be completely fair, Dan, they ran a
military style offense this past year in ann Arbor. That's
not a skill set that Bryce Underwood is going to be.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Able to thrive.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
Well, I mean, you know, I think the other part
of this, too is Lane Kiffin's own words that he
had before he left Ole miss where he was talking about,
you know, players, recruiting all of that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
He goes, it's a year to year thing. No, it is.

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
It's what it is now. I mean that's and I
mean he knows that as much as anybody. So if
it comes to, as you said, the year as opposed
to possibly two years, Lane doesn't look at it that way.
He looks at it as hey, let me get my
guy right now and then I'll worry about it going forward.

Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
Yeah, But at the same time, I just look at
it from the perspective of I know that there is
untapped potential with the guy in Bryce Underwood, where I
also know that there's a certain limitation when it comes
to trade ad Chambliss. If I'm trying to build a
foundation for the long haul, I think I'm playing for
Underwood over a guy like Chambliss. Now again, I do
agree with you. At this point in the ward of
college football, it truly is free agency. It truly is

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a year by year basis. You're only as good as
you are for that one team. All aspects can change
depending on coaching searches and transferporting and nil packages that
come with it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
But at the same time, if I'm Lane Kiffin.

Speaker 5 (01:09:05):
I'm trying to find my quarterback that two years from
now is leading me to the college football playoff because
I do believe that there is going to be a
transition period for Lane. You're probably gonna need a guy
that you could stick around for the long term.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
Let's get back into the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:09:19):
Look at the shield because not as serious the NOD
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the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
They are on Morning Drive. Here's Dan Matthews and Cole Thompson.

Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
It's about fifteen teams that are still within striking distance of,
you know, either clinching at their playoff spot or in
some cases have clinched. Like believe both the Rams and
Rams and the Broncos both locked in, so they're both there.
But everybody else, I mean, it's you know, the Patriots
that they win this week, they're in. The Eagles win

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then they clinched the NFC East, and a few other
teams that just need a couple of more wins to
be able to get in. So you'll start seeing that
here happen this weekend and the Texans clinched this weekend
or no Texans cannot clinch this weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
They're right on the doorstep.

Speaker 4 (01:10:17):
So I mean, I guess effectively they could, because I
guess you would have two games left and you've got
tie breakers on pretty much everybody out there, and you
would have to lose to both the Chargers and the
Colts to lose this to be able to.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
Get knocked out.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
But they are, at least according to NFL dot Com
ninety but.

Speaker 5 (01:10:35):
They can't cleanse this weekend. And I'm not even saying
that they can clench the division. I'm saying to playoff
birth in general.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Right, gotcha?

Speaker 5 (01:10:42):
So I mean there, as I said, what's the point
of even playing on Sunday?

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
Why are we even here? Why are we doing this?

Speaker 5 (01:10:51):
All?

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
So we found out yesterday about or actually found out
on Sunday about Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Well quick Work already underwent surgery to.

Speaker 4 (01:11:00):
Repair the left ACL tear and he also had a
torn LCL that was part of it, as it was
performed by the Cowboys team physician, interesting enough, doctor Dan
Cooper there. According to the Chiefs, Mahomes is going to
begin the rehab process immediately not thought of to be

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as serious as they thought that maybe there was some
major damage in there, but apparently avoiding the major damage.
But the thought is that it will take nine months
for him, So he's going to miss the entire team's
off season programs and his availability for the start of
next season, which the NFL opener is going to be on.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
September the tenth. That is in question at the moment
for Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 5 (01:11:44):
Okay, so we're going to see him probably shut on
up in week four of next season when the Kansasity
Chiefs are sitting out on three and they need to
rush him back, which means he's going to deal with
more injuries, and ultimately we're going to see back back
years of no Kansas City, which therefore means that Chris
Collinsworth will have to retire out of the cast booth
because he can't have any more slobbering over a guy
who stopped playing.

Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
That, Hey, why is Jason Garrett doing this game? Well,
you know, Mahomes isn't part of it, so I want
to be part of it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:10):
So I heard last night somebody say that Travis Kelsey
should just go ahead and pan in his game checks
for the rest of the season because he's not gonna
get to a thousand yards. He doesn't want to go
ahead and play for a team that has no shot
of going to the playoffs. If I'm Chris Collinsworth, turn
in every single one of my broadcast checks, here we go.
I got money from Pro Football Focus, I'm good. I
If Mahomes is out there and I can't compare him
to him, I'm all good. Just send me home for

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the weekend, give.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
Me a playbook, and I'll just go ahead and read
through that instead.

Speaker 4 (01:12:36):
Well, the league will persist, and the league will move
on even without the Chiefs part of the playoffs. No
surprise here, Philip Rivers, I'm gonna get the start on
Monday Nights against the forty nine Ers. Says it is
going to be San Francisco and Indy on Monday Night football.
I mean again, you mentioned it. The practice window for
Anthony Richardson is open. I think Shane Steiken looks at

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Anthony Richardson now says no shot, like I've already given
you the chance. I've already seen it obviously. Last year
the game here in Houston, I don't think there was
really much of a coincidence that they went ahead and
went away from him after he said, you know, yeah,
I came out from that play because I was tired.

Speaker 5 (01:13:16):
So you think for one second that in a playoff run,
it's time to turn toward a quarterback that we believe
we have swung and this on with the number four
overall pick and so much so that we had to
hear him complain about being exhausted on the field. But
that's what we're going to turn to at any given
moment as we're in a must win every single week
from here on out.

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
Again, I don't think it was a coincidence last year.
I think Shane Stiken did that because that's one of
those where at the time it had happened and I said,
you know what's gonna end up happening. You're gonna have
players coming to Shane steike In and saying, I can't
suit up on that guy.

Speaker 5 (01:13:47):
You just brought back a forty four year old grandfather
out of retirement to make him now sit five years
and wait to go to Canton. He's playing the rest
of the way like if I burn, It's like when
you burn in eligibility for a player the same thing, like,
I'm sorry at this point, if you're gonna be out,
if we're not playing you for we're ruling you more
than the four game waiver. You're playing the rest of

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the way. If we're gonna waste this time on you,
we're wasting it entirely by going out in the ship.

Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
So that's what you'll get. That's gonna be an indie
on Monday night next week. And then the operation shutdown.
As I mentioned, the commander is telling Jaden Daniels, why
don't you sit this one out. You're you're gonna be
good for the rest of the way, as they decide
to go ahead and shut him down after he aggravated
his dislocated left elbow, and dan Quinn says he still

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hasn't been cleared for contact and unlikely to play on
Saturday against the Eagles, So deciding that that's gonna be it,
they're gonna go ahead and just say, hey, sit it
out the rest of the way and.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
Let's retee it and get it going in twenty twenty six.
Season's over. We have no shot out doing much.

Speaker 5 (01:14:54):
We know that if you play, you actually hurt us
by getting a better draft pick. Therefore, we're gonna go
ahead and sit you. But to be fair, keep in mind,
you gotta be paying attention to what's going on with
the Washington commanders right now. Do you understand why, Dan Matthews,
Because the Texans have their second round pick as part
of the Laramie Tunsle deals. So figuring out where they're
going to be picking in the early stages of the

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second round may help you decide on what pathway you
look when it comes to trades. Because we all know
that Nick Assario is not going to be picking in
the first round.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
Well, I think we all know what happened here is
Nick Assario got the early rough draft of the season
script and said, Washington's not gonna have a very good season.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Get Washington on the phone, see if they want Laramie.
I would have asked for a first round pick at
that point.

Speaker 5 (01:15:37):
If you saw the script and you knew that it
was gonna be definitely disastrous, I would say, listen, we'll
eat part of the money, give us a first round brother.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
You know Nick Asseio's middle name is second round pick. Yeah,
I know.

Speaker 5 (01:15:48):
But then you have two first round picks to trade
for the price of one, and then you get three
fourths second round picks and three third round picks in
the process. So now you got six players for the
price of two because of really the price of one.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
I think D two is actually his nickname. I think
that's what you know.

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
As soon as he walks by people there in the
building over at RG.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
See Friday, Casria, that's what they say, what's up? D two? No,
they call him Friday. No, they call him D two.
They call him Friday because that's when the draft happens
for him on a Friday.

Speaker 5 (01:16:15):
But just called day two. Why would they call him
day two? They should call him Friday. It makes a
lot more sense. He's mister Day two. But he's going
into the weekend on a high note by making selections
on day two. So Friday works a lot better.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
In my opinion.

Speaker 4 (01:16:26):
Matter of fact, he just walks by people just hold
up twos, that's all they do.

Speaker 5 (01:16:29):
But he usually hold up to hold up too. But
he only he hits in the third round.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
That's the problem.

Speaker 5 (01:16:34):
He should be holding up threes because you know that
you're always going to land a premier player in the third.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
But I mean, it's so it's just all encompassing right there.
You know, like you said, you call him mister Friday,
you can call him mister d two day two.

Speaker 5 (01:16:44):
See, I'd rather just call him three at this point
because if you know, he's gonna be draining threes by
hitting every on every third round pick.

Speaker 4 (01:16:50):
So that's what they're gonna be doing in the draft room.
You know, they draft a guy in the third round
holding up the threes right there, maybe even doing is
it the microscope or whatever they do.

Speaker 5 (01:17:00):
Know what they're gonna be doing is they're gonna be saying, great,
watch this guy become an All Pro and then we
lose him in free agency. No worries, We'll figure it out.
We'll go ahead and hit Recep by getting another dude
in twenty twenty seven. It's a good problem to have
when you draft well on day two. That's what Texans
have done with Nick Cassario robbery. Was that the case
last night in Denver? We'll discuss right here as we
get into the eight o'clock hour. It is the Morning

(01:17:22):
Drive with Dan and Cole right here on a Tuesday,
Sports Talk seven ninety.

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Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
Unfortunate ending, no question about it, but also many other
unfortunate parts of last night's over time one twenty eight
one twenty five loss for the Rockets, as the officiating
a little interesting to say the least. And with that
we say away we go. Good morning here on the

(01:18:15):
Morning Drive. It is the Morning Drive with Dan and
Coles Sports Talk seven ninety as the Rockets lose that
one Texans off from the practice field. They're getting ready
for the Raiders tomorrow at NRG Stadium on Sunday, and
mentioned about arch Manning coming back. We'll get in a
little bit more about arch Manning here as the show
goes along. But Cole, the Rockets, they shoot it well,

(01:18:38):
they at times defended it pretty well in my opinion. Hey,
Kevin Durant last night with the steals and the block shots,
I mean it was one of those out of him
where we were just like, hey, okay, you're bought in
eight we're feeling it.

Speaker 5 (01:18:55):
Eight block shots, seven rebounds, thirty four defensive rebounds, forty
six total rebounds in the game. I thought that they
played exceptional defensively given the status of what you had
to do to shut down Jamal Murray, which is a
challenge in itself because he's playing like an All Star
this year, and then forcing Nikola Jokic, who probably wanted
to drive toward the basket, having to take shots from downtown.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
The problem was that they went in well.

Speaker 4 (01:19:16):
And then here's the problem though last night too is
emay Udoka. You know, with what I said about the
officiating being questionable. Ema Udoka said that the officiating was
anything up butt questionable.

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
He just said it was. It was straight up bad,
have no business being out. There was an official quote
from emy Udoka in the post game which, to be completely.

Speaker 5 (01:19:37):
Transparent, Let's be real looking at Tim Hardaway, watching the
way that he was flagrantly fouled and they gave him
two shots when everybody from the national broadcast, to the
Rockets broadcast to the Denver broadcast all had a perplexing
look of he you may want to review that one.
Oh we did. Nope, they lose a challenge. We're gonna

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give them a shot to go ahead and tie this game.
That's where you have to ask yourself who really are
you deciding to stick with Are you trying to call
a game perfectly? Are you trying to get the right
options out there? Or are you leaning into the success
of what is Nicolie ok.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
Here's he may dook is saying that much more Tikie.

Speaker 7 (01:20:16):
Tech went along with the game tonight, So not surprised
by the crew we had out there. Just in general,
I think it's poorly officiated game. I've seen a long
time to have no business being out there, and the
crew chief of the Second Star struck, so You're seeing all
kinds of inconsistent calls, and I'm sure you should have

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got a few more techs.

Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
Okay, to be completely off with you, I got to ask, I.

Speaker 4 (01:20:40):
Completely missed that last part when we played that earlier.
What where he was like, we should have gotten more techs?

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:20:47):
No, I mean, hey, what's your regret? My only regret
is is that I didn't get thrown out. I really
think that most of my team should have.

Speaker 5 (01:20:54):
We should have been playing our bench guys in overtime
because if our starters were all disqualified for the game
from losing their mind. Now to me, I gotta ask
you out of curiosity, is this a problem that we
see consistently now in the NBA moving forward, where bad
officiating is just going to be a nature of the business.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
Or was this a one, one done situation. No, I
mean you're gonna have questionable officiating at times. I mean,
you know, we know the names for a reason. Tony Brothers,
you know obviously, Scott Foster. I mean, you know, just
these names are synonymous with could be a long night here.
Zark Sarba, though, I've always thought of as being one
of the better officials in the league. I mean, he's

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he has been on numerous NBA finals cruise and has
been counted on in the playoffs for numerous years. And
I mean you heard he may take a shot at him.
The two other officials that he may had an issue
with were Natalie Sago and j d Rawls.

Speaker 5 (01:21:49):
They sound like dweebs, they sound like losers, they sound
like morons.

Speaker 4 (01:21:53):
Well, I know that Sago I believe was the one
who had the both of the calls on himn Thompson
where the one there at the end of regulation where
again Tim Hardaway Junior fell down.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
He was not he fell down, He tried over over
his own feet.

Speaker 5 (01:22:12):
There was no technical There was no foul in that standpoint,
and the fact you had to go send that, to
send that to review is automatically another joke.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
And we get done.

Speaker 4 (01:22:20):
I understand what it looked like at the time because
here I'm thinking at the same time as well, like
where I'm like, oh, great, that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
You know, now you just got away from the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:22:28):
Foul, that's gonna be a free throw and then possession
from there. But I mean, once it went to replay,
I was like, they might have something here, but then no,
Zach Zarabas said, oh, the shin made contact.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
Oh really, Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:22:43):
Where please please pinpoint exactly where on the doll that
Amen Thompson made contact with the shin. Please let me
see it, Ladies and gentlemen. I would love to know
where they hurt you, because I didn't see anything like that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
Well, and then another one too was the foul again
and called by Sago on Amn Thompson at the timeline
where it was a simple hand check that should not
have been called. I mean, look, you have two physical teams.
Let him be physical. I mean, that's that's that's really
the bottom line here, And I mean the other bottom

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line is you let one team be physical. That's what
led to the double technical because Alprinshing Gooon was fouled. Yeah,
and they did not call it, and obviously he was
upset about it. He gets the tech and then he
may Doka obviously backing up his guy. Which that's the
thing too, is it's not like he may is a hothead,
like if he if he sees that there is a
railroading happening, then he will jump in. And in that case,

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right there, he felt like there was a railroading happening,
so he said, all right, I'm gonna get mine out.

Speaker 5 (01:23:43):
It's like a Mike McDaniel losing his crap on the sidelines.
It's almost impossible to see, so you know it has
to be a bad call if you're seeing the most
mellow dude actually have to see his gas can kind
of blow off the top of his head.

Speaker 4 (01:23:56):
I mean, I would say that it's not controlled chaos,
but I mean email lets you know that if he's
not a fan of not only the officiating. I mean,
remember what we saw a couple of years ago with
Lebron James where he yelled at him stop complaining.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
I mean, that's the type of guy he is.

Speaker 4 (01:24:14):
I think at times kind of you know, we're we're
pretty lucky in this town to have two guys like
him and Demiko Ryans, where they still have enough of
a mindset of a coach, but they've been a lot.
They are of a player, but they've been away from
it long enough that you don't act emotional as a
player might. That that's the coaching you that comes out.
But in that case right there, it's knowing when the

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push and knowing when to pull back in terms of yeah,
you know what, I'm gonna go ahead and get my pound.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
Of flush here.

Speaker 5 (01:24:39):
I still think one of the best moments in baseball
history over the last twenty years is seeing Dusty Baker
screen get on the maund little Crapper to Joe Kelly.
That's still, to me is one of the best moments
in baseball history. I want more of that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:24:52):
I think Phil Couzy throwing out Alex Sintrone where he
said f you f me, f you see no, that
was one of the best because it wasn't you're out
of here.

Speaker 3 (01:25:02):
It was like all in one right there.

Speaker 4 (01:25:04):
It was eye contact and he's looking at him ohf
me pointing at himself.

Speaker 5 (01:25:08):
F you with the heave ho Are we gonna see
because a terrible officiating so far this season in critical moments,
especially for teams that are viewed as contenders or the favorites.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
Are we finally going to see emoduk again?

Speaker 4 (01:25:20):
The only other ejection that I feel like kind of
meets that criteria that I threw out there, see because
that's one of those. And I know it's not real life,
but in the movie Forget Paris where Bill Billy Crystal
plays an NBA referee totally and he throws Kareem abdul
Jabbar out in the game, and Kareem al dul Jabbar
is like, you can't throw me out. This is my

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farewell game and this is my farewell tour, and Billy
Crystal goes, oh yeah, well, let me be the first
to tell you farewell. Really that happened.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
That's a good one.

Speaker 4 (01:25:51):
The only other one that I was I was a
part of the game is the ballpark that we were
playing at. Right behind it was a Shipley donut. And
the when he threw out our coach, he didn't say
you're out of here. He goes, you know what, go
get a donut, you're gone. Did that really happen? Yes, okay,
because I was like and even at the time too,

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because I think I was like fourteen. It was Pony
League Baseball was right over there, Balon Park. I think
you obviously, if you know the area, you know exactly
the shipley and you know the where the park is.
But yeah, he said that to him, He goes, he goes,
you know what, go get a donut.

Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
You're gone.

Speaker 5 (01:26:25):
So you're telling me that Billy Crystal in a movie
decide to throw a Kareem abdul Jabar. Yeah, you could
have seen any single player out there. I'm glad that
you mentioned Kareem adul Jabbar, but you could have told
me that it was Mike D'Antoni as a coach, and
I would have believed you because I've never seen that movie,
nor do I ever intend to see that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
I always love the faces that d'An toni would make
when he felt like he was getting jobbed.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
He was a very expressive guy. I want to see it.
May may Doka lose his mind and get thrown out
of the game at this point he's done at numerous times.
I want to see it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:51):
More because I'm sorry because guess what, Billy Crystal playing it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
He tried last night.

Speaker 4 (01:26:55):
I will give rolls in that crew credit because I
mean he was going after both officials that you know
again he felt like didn't have any business being out there.

Speaker 5 (01:27:04):
Well, to be fair, he tried. Billy Crystal is a
fake official. These guys are fake officials. Added all together,
you can just have a great crew in that standpoint.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
Just see, I mean, was his the name of the movie.

Speaker 5 (01:27:13):
Forget Paris. It's a good movie, okay, so forget Paris.
Billy Crystal plays an NBA ref. We saw acting last
night from two clowns that decide to act like an
NBA ref.

Speaker 4 (01:27:22):
That's pretty much all part and Parcel, I guess. I
mean it all kind of fit together, but I mean
it just, you know, it obviously over. You know, it
really is the storyline where I mean it should have
been elsewhere with the rockets last night, where you shot
pretty well from the field, you're over fifty percent, you
were forty eight percent from three. That's nice to see.
But I mean another storyline too, Nikola Jokic, I mean,

(01:27:45):
he just he's he's he's from another planet. I mean
it's not fair at this point. It just isn't. He
is a guy that's I mean, I don't I don't
know how tall Yokic is, but I mean he's a
big guy. But he's one of those guys that if
you sight unseen, you just threw him somewhere that people
would have no idea. But there was still play a
pickup basketball game going that somebody would see him and

(01:28:08):
just be like, yeah, sure you're on our team, like
not like you know, like, oh no, that's our first guy.
And then he'd just be hooping everybody. Like I say
this all the time, like a guy like Matt Bonner
could like show up at like Lifetime Fitness or somewhere
like that and people would be like, you know this guy, Oh,
I definitely have this guy, and then he's just hooping
you up. He's just spotting you up. For Matt Bonner

(01:28:29):
the actor, No, Matt Bonner are the player, the one
that played for the Spurs years ago. See just saying that,
Guys that don't necessarily look like they would be the
most athletic. Again sight unseen, you know nothing about him,
you know, you have no idea who they are, and
they show up on a basketball court and they just
hoop you up.

Speaker 5 (01:28:44):
The problem is is that with Nikola Jokicic, you're basically
or he's a walking triple double. You know that he
is going to get his every single night, so you
have to figure out a way to shut him down.
And the reality was is that he went thirteen to
twenty seven from the field when probably he wanted to
be closer to eighteen to thirty one, but instead take
shots from downtown, which he didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
He went five to nine.

Speaker 5 (01:29:02):
In that standpoint, I thought, I thought, honestly, the Rockets
played extremely well when it came to trying to defend him,
taking away lanes for him to be able to drive.

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
Up up court.

Speaker 5 (01:29:10):
But then you have Jamal Murray, and Jamal Murray went
nine to seventeen, he went three, three or five from
the from downtown, he went fourteen to fifteen from the line,
he had thirty five points. The two of them really
just kind of outworked everybody on the Rockets. And then
you throw in the bench standpoint, it's an underlying trade,
but the bench for a team like Denver last night
was the sole factor of what got them over the edge.
Tim Hardaway at thirteen points, Jonas Valenciinis had eight points.

(01:29:34):
He had fourteen points coming from Reed Shepard, everybody else
at five. Ultimately, that's gonna play a major role, and
it did for I think a team like Denver. But
you brought this up good overall execution shooting with fifty
one percent seventy two percent from the free throw line,
that's not gonna cut it. But you out rebound them,
you outstole them out, you had fewer fouls, you out blocked.

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
Them, You did all the right things.

Speaker 5 (01:29:56):
But that's like an outlier kind of secondary story that
worth throwing together because the reality is we're looking at
how a bad call by once again pathetic excusing of
officiating decided yet another game for a superstar to be
able to find a way to boost up his resume
on a team that has been losing four straight at home.

Speaker 4 (01:30:15):
More and more belief in the Texans, and in this case,
people put in their money where their mouth is. We'll
discuss right here as we get back into the Texans conversation.
As we say all the time too, we mentioned it,
it is fair game. So if you want to get
in on some of the Rockets conversation, we were just
having right there seven one three two on two five
seven ninety. Get it seven one three two on two

(01:30:36):
five seven ninety, Gary in spring, see you right there
working in You want to join them?

Speaker 3 (01:30:40):
Right there?

Speaker 4 (01:30:40):
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety. It
is the Morning Drive, Dan and Cole Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
Back to the Morning Drive. Here's Dan Matthews and Cole Thompson.

Speaker 3 (01:30:55):
Gary, Good morning, How you doing?

Speaker 8 (01:30:57):
Hey, good morning guys. I just wanted to call real quick.
Uh uh about a call you guys had yesterday. There's
a caller that calls in. He always calls in the
last call of the of the of y'all's.

Speaker 15 (01:31:09):
Lauren says, Yeah, and I'm to talk about talking about
Larry and Larry as far as right now, he's the
best sports caller caller enter on all the sports channels.

Speaker 18 (01:31:22):
Him and I have a lot in common where both
old guys.

Speaker 8 (01:31:24):
We've been around Houston's sports forever and ever. But uh
uh call.

Speaker 18 (01:31:29):
When you first came on, I kind of had a
I didn't really agree with anything he said, but so
I wasn't listening to you. I finally started listening, and
you guys do such good back and forth y'all bring
up different opinions. So it's good David once a while
listen to somebody that has a different opinion than you.

Speaker 8 (01:31:45):
And then maybe maybe don't don't pick up the.

Speaker 18 (01:31:48):
Phone and call in and and and just jump down
somebody's float like that.

Speaker 8 (01:31:51):
Maybe go fire up a stove here, go go get three.

Speaker 18 (01:31:54):
Fingers or the yak that you have and stuff like that,
because Larry, Larry's kind of that way. He's very intelligent,
love when he calls in. So I was real proud
of you that cold you came back on him and
and you just didn't let it, you know, just didn't
let him jump all over you and back down and
ere thing.

Speaker 8 (01:32:09):
But but he's a great caller.

Speaker 18 (01:32:10):
So I just thought that was very very entertaining call yesterday.
And I really appreciated that. And and uh, you guys
are doing a great job. And I've come to appreciate
you cold because you make a lot of good points.

Speaker 8 (01:32:21):
But anyway, just wanted to.

Speaker 18 (01:32:23):
Chime in on that and uh and uh and.

Speaker 8 (01:32:25):
Say, hey, Hilarry, you're a great caller.

Speaker 18 (01:32:27):
Keep them coming, and you guys have a great day.

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
Yeahy same to you, Gary, appreciate it and look you know, look,
we love our audience.

Speaker 4 (01:32:33):
There is no butt to this. I don't I don't
want anybody to think that there's a butt, But so
what's the butt.

Speaker 19 (01:32:38):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:32:39):
A buddy of mine said a few years ago that
this is in regards to your kids. He's like, when
your kids are young, you know, you love them because
you know they're sweet, they're you know, all all all
these different things, and then once they hit you know,
teenage years, it's you get to the point where you
love them the same, you like him differently. He's like,
if you're being honest with yourself, that is the case.

(01:33:00):
So with family, it's kind of the same thing. You know,
you love your family the same, but you like certain
family members a little bit more than you like the
other ones.

Speaker 3 (01:33:08):
Yeah, I just tolerate you for the holiday season and
I move on with my life. It's fine, It's all good.

Speaker 4 (01:33:12):
I mean, hey, there is a certain family that I
will count on much more than any others. That doesn't
mean that I don't love the others as much. It's just,
you know, we love our audience, and you know, sometimes
you know, family, that's part of it.

Speaker 5 (01:33:27):
Family in frustrates and now Larry and I are related
and that he's part of the family.

Speaker 3 (01:33:32):
Yeah, Larry, Larry's part of the family. Damn right, he is.
Larry Larry's part of the family.

Speaker 5 (01:33:36):
Well, when Larry and I decide to go ahead and
break breadon he's a maid guy, and have kumbaia on
good conversation and he says that Cole, you have a
wonderful point, then I will allow him to go ahead
and be welcome on into the sports soxe Haven ninety family.
Because Gary, Gary at least listened and said I did
like him at first, but you know what, he brings
up good points and he's not afraid to be combative.
So I appreciate Gary for understanding. I mean, look at

(01:33:57):
it in a different way. It doesn't mean a hateh
Harry wants to go ahead and say that I'm wrong
on everything.

Speaker 3 (01:34:03):
I can make that happen. I can make uh the uh,
you know, the the good liquids on on the rocks
and some sticks happened. Sure, I could.

Speaker 5 (01:34:11):
Absolutely, you want to make some liquids on the rocks, Yes,
good liquids? Are you? Are you just saying you're gonna
pour a glass of bourbon and enjoy an ice cold one?

Speaker 3 (01:34:19):
Well, I mean, yeah, that that that'd be one, and
then you know fire fire up a stick along with
it too.

Speaker 5 (01:34:24):
Absolutely, why are you lighting sticks on fire man? We
were in a drought area right now. We can't have
that happening.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
Wow, good good sticks with uh with some goodness wrapped inside.
So we're saying that you're giving sticks away for the
holiday season? What are we doing here, Dan? No, you know,
just some good go wrong with this? Is that what
you're asking for? Exactly? He's giving us six for Christmas? Well,
remember TRIPLEI.

Speaker 4 (01:34:46):
There's somebody else that used to sit in one of
these seats who used to call them something else, which
I'm not completely convinced. I think that he was just
putting on his co host at the time of what
he called them.

Speaker 3 (01:34:58):
I'm I'm fully convinced that.

Speaker 20 (01:35:01):
Yeah, I don't know steaks, poles? You guys, does he
called them?

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
Did he call them poles? Yeah? Li Limo would call
them poles? Oh my god? Did? Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:35:10):
What what's the there's cigars? Let's just go ahead and
start there. Sure, if anything else, you want to go
with another nickname, call them Sogy's.

Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
I'll be fine with that one. I I'm good with
either one of them. But you just called them sticks.

Speaker 4 (01:35:22):
Yeah, that's what you that's what you can call them,
calling them up fire, firing up a stick.

Speaker 5 (01:35:26):
If you're firing up a stick, I feel like that
you're gonna be lighting us. You're gonna be lighting a bonfire.
And then staid, we're gonna be sitting around having Not.

Speaker 4 (01:35:32):
All cigars are created equal either. Some of them are
a little bit better. Some of them, you know, smoke
smoke a little dryer, some of them, you know, a
little juicier, whatever it is. I mean, cigars are like steaks.
You know, it's just you. You get what you pay
for when it comes to that.

Speaker 5 (01:35:46):
See, if cigars are like steaks, that just means I'm
gonna eat it no matter what. I'm going to enjoy
it no matter what, because I just paid money for it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
I'm not gonna like go of way.

Speaker 4 (01:35:53):
Sure, But I mean, you know, there's certain places that
you don't have his highest standards for, and there's certain
others that have the really sharp knives and nice table cloths,
and you know you gotta you gotta be dressed nicely
for it, and you know you've got to know that
you can be paying a little bit more of a
premium for it the way it goes.

Speaker 5 (01:36:09):
Tell me, who's fine with just having a medium well
done steak just because of I'm afraid because if I'm
not gonna be the guy who wants who waits twenty
five minutes for them to remake my steak after going
and messing up the order, Now, that just changes your
tip for him.

Speaker 3 (01:36:23):
I just eat. When when I go to medium rare,
I just figure it's it's it's gonna be exactly the
way I want it, or it's gonna be somewhere in
the neighborhood.

Speaker 5 (01:36:30):
But the problem is that today's society, you can't trust
anybody to make your food.

Speaker 3 (01:36:34):
So at this point, I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:36:35):
Definitely just one of the few foods and in terms
of the meat categories that you can eat.

Speaker 5 (01:36:39):
Raw okay, but for starters, I'm not eating anything wrong.
I refuse to do that unless it's eggs. And even still,
that's where it's like I kind of draw the line.

Speaker 3 (01:36:47):
Yeah, you gotta worry.

Speaker 4 (01:36:48):
You gotta worry about the whole kind of salmonella thing
with that, Like if you're doing the whole Rocky Balboa thing, but.

Speaker 5 (01:36:53):
You're gonna tell me that eating anything other than beef tartar, which,
by the way, if it's not made properly, it's going
to have parasites in it throughout your entire body.

Speaker 4 (01:37:02):
That's good for you. Raw meat, well, nobody's getting trick andosis.
I think we're gonna be okay.

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
What is a trick andosis? Damn maut.

Speaker 4 (01:37:08):
You can get it from what I understand. If you
don't prepare bear properly, you can get trick andosis?

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
Who is eating bear in the middle of December? Let's
start there?

Speaker 4 (01:37:17):
Have some people have curious taste? But have you indulged
in bear before?

Speaker 8 (01:37:21):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:37:22):
I never have triple Have you indulged in bear before? Never?
Who has?

Speaker 15 (01:37:26):
Who?

Speaker 3 (01:37:26):
Can somebody please explain to me that the person who is.

Speaker 5 (01:37:30):
Why am I not surprised that he is the one
person who has indulged in green.

Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
He's talked about that.

Speaker 4 (01:37:36):
He was it when he had Derek Wolfe, the former
Bronco who told the story about tracking a mountain lion
and killing it with his bow and he's you know,
he was like, you know, mountain lion's actually good eating.
I'm like, how would you know that?

Speaker 5 (01:37:51):
How would you know that you're killing the mountain lion.
I'm eating all of it with it. Well, I mean
then that's what that's what they ended up doing. Supposedly,
they said, mountain lion tastes like sweet pork. These are
things that I don't need to know about in life.
Just give me a chicken, give me beef, and caught
up day.

Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
I mean, I'm fine with both of those. There's some
fish in there, I mean pork. You know, I usually
don't discriminate when it comes to tasty, you know, tasty
good tasty.

Speaker 5 (01:38:17):
What because you were stuttering over that for a second,
like where are we going with this?

Speaker 4 (01:38:20):
I just didn't want to get in touch with certain
people that send out the letters and you know, start
social media campaigns and all of that.

Speaker 3 (01:38:27):
Oh you mean p et A Sure, the peed of people.

Speaker 5 (01:38:30):
Yeah, they got ears everywhere Petra people around here because
they're definitely going to be listening.

Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
In to us. Well, I mean it's fine. Look, you
don't get a physique like this by going vegan, so
it's just the way it goes. See, but you look
great right now.

Speaker 5 (01:38:43):
You were even can you we even talking yourself up
last night of being able to put on that sweatshirt
for the first time in nine months.

Speaker 4 (01:38:48):
A nice feeling, man, it's a nice feeling to have
some loose fitting clothing again. It's it's definitely better than
where it was. And my friend's over at Centergenics. They
were a huge part of making that happen.

Speaker 5 (01:38:57):
Okay, Well, let's go back to Texans conversation, Becau, because
if there are some things that I think that we
still need to figure out about this team before we
go ahead and put the wagon before the horse and
call them the Super Bowl favorites, because I will say
they are a team that we can at least look
at and believe they have a chance to make a
run to Santa Clara. And do you believe that they're
the favorites? That's where we go next.

Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:16):
They're not far. How close are they? We'll discuss right
here morning drive Dan and call.

Speaker 12 (01:39:22):
Hey. It's a man to.

Speaker 3 (01:39:27):
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Speaker 7 (01:39:28):
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Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
The point SETI a conversation earlier. They said that is
the correct way to say it. It was the Big Boss.
It was it was Big Boss Paul Brown nosing fine,
all right, text it it did.

Speaker 5 (01:39:46):
Point he was complimenting me, how's that brown nosing? Because
if he loves you that you said it right? Point
seta is the way I've always been talking about it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:53):
Look, I mean, you know there's being right and then
there's being the way that you do it. I mean,
you can choose which way you want to be.

Speaker 3 (01:39:59):
Well, I like being, That's the main thing.

Speaker 5 (01:40:00):
And so when I say words nonsensically incorrect, it's because
of I understand what it's supposed to mean, like he can't.

Speaker 3 (01:40:08):
Pecan and and that's that's, you know, just something else
that you know you're trying to endear yourself to the audience.
These are these are ways that you can enduce.

Speaker 5 (01:40:15):
Listen, I understand that you believe that addressing is something
that you would put inside of a turkey, but it's not.
It's actually stuffing. So we can go ahead and agree
to disagree on this one. Here's one thing that we
can I enjoy it on the side.

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
Here's what we can't.

Speaker 5 (01:40:25):
Agree on that the Texans right now are definitely a
favorite in the AFC to come on out and make
a run to Santa Clara. But what is the one
thing that you are worried about going into the final
three games of the season that you don't think is
going to be correctible by the time that it comes
up for you to be able to say we are
the most full fledge roster.

Speaker 4 (01:40:46):
Short yardage, I mean, and that's again, I mean, that's
it's some of the things that come up in the playoffs.
I mean, you're gonna be in short yardage situations. You're
gonna be in red zone situations where you want to
come away with six. You're going to be in just
those small that the Texans have gotten better at. I
will give them credit for that. And we heard a
little bit earlier from Bill Kaher and Matt Ryan, and

(01:41:08):
we'll have that for you a little bit later on.
But I mean you can say that they do have
some of the penalties pre snap, all of those things
that have hurt them in the past. They are tapering off,
like I will say that, So this is a team
that is starting to not beat themselves. And that's again,
while you see themselves on a six game win streak, it's.

Speaker 5 (01:41:29):
Red zone offense. For me, it's not gonna be corrected
at this point of the season. So now you got
to find a way to win with the explosives, because
when you're inside the twenty, you're gonna walk away with three.
I need you sometimes walking away with six. You're thirtieth
in the NFL in red zone efficiency. This pass game
against one of the worst red zone defenses in the
Arizona Cardinals, they still were only able to score three times,

(01:41:51):
and one of them was a fluke on a Woody
Mark's funnel that was able to jump to side of
the end. So if that ends up being a bad
snap and they ended up just falling on the ball, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:41:59):
A with the field goal attempt.

Speaker 5 (01:42:01):
And yes, you end up winning thirty seven to twenty,
but still the inability to score at a high rate
and the play designs wouther that be because of prestat penalties,
whether that be because of miscommunication from the from the
play dialect from Nick Kayley to CJ. Strutt, whatever it is.
The area of weakness has been the red zone offensive
personnel and I don't think it's gonna get better. So

(01:42:22):
now you gotta find a way to We can't recantndle
that and that may end up being try.

Speaker 3 (01:42:26):
Scoring for the thirty five yard line.

Speaker 4 (01:42:28):
Well, I mean it's let's talk about what's working, and
in this case, you know who do you feel like
is going to work in these spots. I trust Nico Collins,
I trust Dalton Schultz. I trust them much more than
I trust what he marks in this run game. I
trust them much more than I trust this interior defensive
line to be able to open up the A gap
or something like that for you to be able to

(01:42:49):
find your way into the end zone. I absolutely trust
them much more than I trust the others.

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
Yes, absolutely, Right.

Speaker 5 (01:42:56):
Now, I'm not even looking at the red zone offense anymore.
I just refuse to because I already can expect that
going into every matchup, they're gonna go one of six,
they're gonna get five field goals, and they're gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:43:07):
Get one touchdown.

Speaker 5 (01:43:08):
So now what I'm looking for is, can you extend
plays and be able to go vertical down the field
with the Nico Collins, with the Dalton Schultz? Can you
move with the explosives if you're at the twenty five
right on the outside looking in he can you try
to make this shot for the end zone. So that
way we don't even have to talk about red zone
offense to begin with.

Speaker 4 (01:43:24):
And I understand what people are going to say, double
teams all of that. Usually when you're in you know,
shrunken fields like that, like in the red zone, you
don't have enough field to be able to cover in
that way because I mean, you're you're also thinking about
it's numbers on numbers at that point, so you do
have one on ones. So if I have one on
ones at that point, I don't I don't need you know,

(01:43:48):
the the the corner routes, I don't need the fades.
I don't need any of those things. I've got size
on a defensive back. If I've got Nico Collins on
a defensive back, I'm going to Nico Collins at the
same he's probably going to win that.

Speaker 5 (01:44:00):
At the same time, though, you're watching as defensive coordinators
are realizing that Nick Kyley and the play designs that
we constantly are seeing are completely out of left field
and honestly, at times a little bit transparently horrendous, to
where now it feels all we got to do is
send pressure up the middle, put CJ in a position
to where he has.

Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
To throw the football away.

Speaker 5 (01:44:20):
Therefore, we're already taking the play out of his hands
and putting into somebody else's hands.

Speaker 3 (01:44:24):
So I mean, like to me.

Speaker 5 (01:44:25):
At this point, I'm trying, I'm trying to extend plays
outside the pocket and I'm trying to send it vertically
down the field to be able to connect with my
target because I feel like that that's an easier standpoint
than trying to run anything from inside the fifteen.

Speaker 3 (01:44:38):
Here's the good news though, too, is I mean, you'd
like for CJ to be better inside the pocket, but
he's showing you those off off schedule plays, the rollouts,
any of the other chances to be able to get
him on the run being able to try to find
a play.

Speaker 4 (01:44:52):
He's been able to do that, and he's finding it
with accuracy. So adults, these are things we saw in
twenty three.

Speaker 5 (01:44:57):
The Dalton Schultz touchdown was a perfect example of what
you just being able to maneuver outside the pocket and
create opportunities with both his legs and his arm. Honestly,
if you go back and you watch that, he could
have walked into the end zone and it would have
been a touchdown. But said he saw an open receiver,
a guy who's been a security blanket for him.

Speaker 3 (01:45:13):
Let's double touchdown. Total for the season.

Speaker 4 (01:45:15):
That was one of those two where I still remember,
you know, WEX sitting next to me when Davis Mills
ran it in for the go ahead score against the
Jags and he was get rid of it, and I
was like, well, let him cook.

Speaker 5 (01:45:29):
If you're just saying on the touchdown run that he had,
he was saying, no, get rid of.

Speaker 4 (01:45:33):
It, yeah, because I mean it did look like he
was not going to have an angle to be able
to get in there. And then as he got closer
across the ten across the five, as soon as he
crossed the five, I'm like, oh, no, he's getting in.

Speaker 5 (01:45:43):
I think that once you got into the red zone
you knew that he was going at that point and
it worked out well.

Speaker 4 (01:45:48):
But no, it was the same deal the other day
because it was the complete opposite with CJ on that.
Like I was like, as soon as I saw him
rear back to throw it, I was like.

Speaker 3 (01:45:54):
Don't throw it, why are you doing? Just keep running?

Speaker 5 (01:45:58):
No, I said, maneuver outside the pocket way for op increase,
And he had two options, and either way it was
going to go to a touchdown. The question was do
you want to get into eighty six or do you
want to keep it yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:46:07):
And it's nice to have those options and at least
being able to get in there. But I mean, as
you mentioned, the Texans able to get in the end
zone four if you have four times on Sunday against Arizona,
and then you also had to kick it four other times,
including a fifth that was blocked by Kalais Campbell. But still,
I mean, these are things that you'd like to see

(01:46:29):
the Texans be able to continue. And I mean a
good way to be able to do that is this
week against an awful Raiders team who have now lost
eight straight this season. They're two and twelve on the year,
and basically the only redeeming quality in the Raiders is
twofold defensively, Max Crosby and former defensive you know, former
defensive player for the Texans, Devin White having a pretty

(01:46:51):
good bounce back.

Speaker 5 (01:46:52):
Actually, you're saying that Devin White is a solstice for
the team that is currently sitting at two and twelve.
Tells me everything I need to know about why they're
two and twelve. Rear preservation man, he's able to keep
it going.

Speaker 4 (01:47:02):
I mean, I think that there was probably a thought
when he came to Houston that it was his career
was on life support then and now the season that
he's happening with the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (01:47:11):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (01:47:11):
I mean, when you're playing for a two and twelve team,
it feels like commed gru Jay Hill, remember when he
was here and everyone was talking him up. The exact
same thing out in Las Vegas right now.

Speaker 4 (01:47:20):
So the way it seems, semone three two on two
five seven ninety is the number to get in Dave, Billy, see,
you're right there. You want to join them again? It's
seOne three two one two five seven ninety. The belief
in the Texans and people put in their money where
their mouth is. We'll have that for you. As we
continue to roll along here on a Tuesday, it's the
Morning Drive, Dan and Cole Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:47:42):
Age Town.

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
The Morning Drive continues. Now now here's Dan and Cole.

Speaker 4 (01:47:50):
The money where the mouths are. Get to that after
we get to Dave and Billy, So let's fire it up.

Speaker 10 (01:47:55):
Dave, good morning, Good morning, Dan, Nicole, How good going
by man? Yes, you guys was talking about being worried
about the Texans last three games. Well, I'm not worried.
I'm one of these Texans fans that I'm not worried
about what the Texans do. I think they're gonna basically

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run the table when all the three.

Speaker 5 (01:48:19):
Games, Dad, real fast, We're not worried that the Texans
are gonna win.

Speaker 3 (01:48:22):
They're gonna win out. I think both Dan and I
believe that.

Speaker 5 (01:48:25):
I'm saying, what's the thing that could stop them from
winning in the playoffs?

Speaker 10 (01:48:30):
Oh, in the playoffs. I didn't hear that. Yeah, I'll
just see you guys all the time, but sometimes if
you but that's not here there in the playoffs. I'm
still not worried. I'll tell you why.

Speaker 9 (01:48:43):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (01:48:43):
Basically, uh, Domico Ryans has a well coached football team
and the players. Here's the key. The players have to
uh you know, be coached by this football team. If
the players make mistakes, continue to make mistakes, then they're

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I don't win the longest. The players, you know, don't
do the pre snap penalties on offense and the holding
calls on offense and especially on defense. Defense, they have
to stay away from penalties as well. It's all about
staying away from penalties and making plays and on special
teams that's like sixty nine yard return, return, punt return,

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punt return to play. Uh, they have to do a
good job on special teams, well all three phases, offense, defense,
and special teams.

Speaker 3 (01:49:44):
Yeah, I appreciate the call, Dave.

Speaker 4 (01:49:46):
I mean, you know, it's really kind of from the
penalty perspective, it's mostly been on the offensive end. I mean,
you know, the funny thing is, like I can't remember
the last defensive pass interference. I can't remember the last
I guess there was illegal content Act in the game
against Arizona, But like they are few and far between defensively,
and that's really hard to do in today's NFL.

Speaker 5 (01:50:08):
No, it's almost impossible to do in today's NFL, especially
when you look at how many metrics are it's supposed
to be leaning against you.

Speaker 3 (01:50:16):
I mean, and that's just it.

Speaker 4 (01:50:17):
I mean, it's it's a game that is very much
officiated to benefit the offense much more than it is
to benefit the defense. I mean, you hear defensive players, coaches,
whoever it is, all the time talk about how I mean,
you know, we're supposed to be playing football here and
you guys are kind of taking away that ability.

Speaker 5 (01:50:32):
But at the same time, like when you look back
at this game, was there anything that really concerned about
the defense? I mean, because we could talk about again
you look at Trey mcbriden, the performance that he had.
I feel like that's the outlier this season, Like it's
the one time that you've been able to say, Okay,
somebody is able to be as on a consistent basis,
we're still because our offense was able to deliver and
at least put us in a position where we were

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capitalizing eight out of ten drives.

Speaker 3 (01:50:55):
You finished with points.

Speaker 5 (01:50:56):
You didn't really worry about it because of an other stance,
as you figured, Okay, we'll make up for it and
lost cause mild concern.

Speaker 3 (01:51:03):
And the mild concern is that this secondary looks like
it can give up some plays. But I think that's
only to certain players.

Speaker 5 (01:51:10):
And I mean like right now, when I'm looking at
the AFC, is there a weapon that right that you
believe is going to be a game changer? Because I
don't see it for New England. I personally don't see
it with Denver right now. I don't think that there
is that difference maker when it comes to Jacksonville outside
of maybe Jacoby Myers. But you basically shut down Jacoby
Myers when he came to Houston earlier this season. I
don't feel that way about DK metcalf. I don't feel

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that way about anybody really for the Buffalo Bills outside
of James cook And to be completely transparent, James Cooking
if he gets one hundred yards, ninety nine percent of
the time he wins.

Speaker 3 (01:51:42):
But you, the one percent that they lost was against you.

Speaker 5 (01:51:45):
So I think that that was more so like the
outlier of what this secondary is gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
Usually you just we're facing really good players.

Speaker 5 (01:51:52):
Yeah, and again you were facing a really good player,
arguably the best tight end in the NFL, that is
about ready to break a record for the most receptions
in a single season, could be in line to be
top five all time in receiving yards in a single season,
and his top ten and receiving touchdowns this year.

Speaker 3 (01:52:07):
And then you got Michael Wilson out there too, being like, yeah, hey,
this is great. I'm doing all this, but I'm doing
it in Arizona.

Speaker 5 (01:52:12):
But like the same time, think about this for a second, Dan,
you also were able to force two major incompletions, in
one of which was in the end zone for a
turnover when they tried to force feed Michael Wilson. So yeah,
he had the touchdown passing finished with seventy six receiving yards.
But they made it clear we got fourteen, we got
eighty five. All right, we're taking away eighty five. Can
we shut down fourteen on about eighty percent of the

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snaps they did.

Speaker 3 (01:52:35):
It really just came down to one big.

Speaker 5 (01:52:37):
Play for a game in twenty three, one touchdown reception
and another one for like a gain of fourteen, And
besides that, it.

Speaker 3 (01:52:42):
Was all think and dunk throughout the afternoon.

Speaker 4 (01:52:44):
Are you convinced me the concern is less mild now?
I mean it's it's almost bland at this point.

Speaker 5 (01:52:51):
It's like the kicks of the NFL, Like, Okay, some
people like kick, some people think that it's just a
mediocre cereal like that. That was the way I think
the defense played. You have to throw some sugar on
it to make kicks work.

Speaker 3 (01:53:02):
And now, and the sugar is Trey mcbriden.

Speaker 5 (01:53:04):
That standpoint for the Arizona team, there's a crap show
and it's basically just punting on the season.

Speaker 3 (01:53:09):
Someone seven ninety billion, Katie, good.

Speaker 21 (01:53:12):
Morning, Hey, good morning, you guys hit on it? What
I what I wanted to say, uh, you got to
get CJ on the move more. I'm not a Nick
Kayley fan.

Speaker 3 (01:53:23):
I think I've made.

Speaker 1 (01:53:24):
That real clear.

Speaker 8 (01:53:26):
Uh.

Speaker 21 (01:53:26):
But he's just not calling the plays to get the
rollouts something to get get a CJ on the move.
CJ throws very well when he's moving and he has
their RPO.

Speaker 8 (01:53:37):
He has said it's there.

Speaker 21 (01:53:38):
The option is there when he's out even in short yardage.

Speaker 8 (01:53:41):
Get him out of the pocket.

Speaker 21 (01:53:42):
If you're not going to run the ball, which you can't,
get him out of the pocket. Give him that option
to get the first down. And as far as what
can stop this team from winning the offense, that's exactly
what it is. And it's pre snap penalties. Uh, I'm
not worried about holding. In an old NFL films, Blue
a real boomerous Sias and told his line said, Hey,

(01:54:03):
when it comes between holding or a sack, you hold
that explosive. And I agree with him, So protect you know,
protect CJ. Keep him up right, But you can't line
up you can't line up all sides when you're on offense.

Speaker 8 (01:54:18):
Chase and just pre stat penalties.

Speaker 21 (01:54:21):
Are killing him. I know it's getting better. I'm Honestly,
I'm gonna put it with one name that can stop
this team from winning in the postseason, and it's Nick Kayley,
and I'm gonna leave it out there.

Speaker 8 (01:54:31):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:54:31):
I appreciate the call, Pilly.

Speaker 4 (01:54:32):
I mean, I think that's just kind of the concern
that people have is, you know, what, what are you
able to mount offensively? I mean, because we've said it
numerous times, you're capable. Capable is twenty twenty four points?
You get that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:45):
This team wins well last week. So that's why I think.

Speaker 4 (01:54:48):
That there is a ton of belief in this team
is because you're not asking for this team to put
up thirty one to thirty eight points.

Speaker 5 (01:54:54):
Now, the outlier from last week's performance with the forty
burger was basically just a hey, we have the capable
to do it when we're playing mediocre teams.

Speaker 3 (01:55:02):
But you gets twenty four, we'll call it even.

Speaker 12 (01:55:04):
See.

Speaker 3 (01:55:04):
I think the first win of the season two for
the Texans where they gave up twenty points or more
in this case, right on the number twenty and they
won the game. Well, they won the game. Yes, that
was it.

Speaker 4 (01:55:17):
Yeah, I mean because the other times, obviously it hasn't
gone their way because they've only.

Speaker 3 (01:55:20):
They only lost one game by twenty points.

Speaker 5 (01:55:22):
If I'm not mistaken this season of giving up twenty Wait,
now there's two games.

Speaker 3 (01:55:28):
The Jacksonville game they gave a twenty six. Oh that's true. Okay, yeah,
so two of them now, yeah, yeah, but I mean
that just also just goes to show you just how
good this defense has been. And that's I mean again,
I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:55:39):
Why you're seeing you know, the talking heads out there,
the odds makers, whoever it is that have the Texans
as being a hey, you know, you want good value
on a team that we think could make a run.

Speaker 3 (01:55:50):
It's these guys.

Speaker 5 (01:55:51):
Texans lost fourteen to nine to the Las Vegas I
mean to the Los Angeles Rams. They lost twenty to
nineteen to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, seventeen to ten to
the Jacksonville Jaguars, seven to nineteen to the Seattle Seahawks,
and eighteen fifteen to the Denver Broncos. Therefore, in three
of those games that you mentioned they scored, I mean,
they've give they gave up less than twenty points and
still lost.

Speaker 3 (01:56:11):
So again, you get to twenty, it feels like a win.

Speaker 5 (01:56:14):
Ninety nine point nine percent of the time, and even
still the one time that you could say you lost,
you nearly put up twenty points, but you gave a
twenty seven to Los Angeles, Miss Seattle.

Speaker 4 (01:56:22):
The smart money could be on the Texans, and how
smart could that money be? How much value we got
that for you right here as we get into the
nine o'clock hour. As we continue here on the Morning Drive,
It's Dannon Cole with you Sports Talk seven ninety KB.

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Speaker 4 (01:57:05):
Rockets losing last night and over time one five in
Denver to the Nuggets.

Speaker 3 (01:57:11):
As some interesting calls, wait and uh, you know, we'll
continue to say.

Speaker 5 (01:57:17):
That, Yeah, they got screwed. I'll say it. I don't care,
I'm fully fine with it. We're in the nine o'clock hour,
last hour of the day. Guess what they got screwed.
Everyone knows it. The NBA should be ashamed. Everybody in
this city should boycott the NBA until they give us
the win because if they deserve that win last night.

Speaker 4 (01:57:32):
Well, the Rockets will have that chance a couple of
nights from now when they take on the Pelicans in
New Orleans.

Speaker 3 (01:57:37):
And of course we'll have that right here Sports.

Speaker 4 (01:57:39):
Talk seven ninety part of a six game road trip
where oh, by the way, I mean you want instant revenge,
We're gonna get that chance on Saturday because they're gonna
go right back to Denver. So maybe it's a chance
for the Rockets to say, hey, Pelicans, you're gonna wear
it tonight, and then against Denver in that game when
they go back to say, hey, you know what, we
should have had you both times, We'll go ahead and

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make it one and two right now against you.

Speaker 5 (01:58:04):
So would you like me to tell you that I
have now seen the playoff clinching scenarios for Week fifteen sixteen.

Speaker 3 (01:58:11):
In the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:58:12):
Interesting enough, because the Texan's going to get the Raiders
this weekend, and I'm assuming it's a courtesy of the WRT,
the Wexler Research Team.

Speaker 5 (01:58:21):
They are the only team that right now in the
top seven that cannot clinch a playoff spot this weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:58:27):
So I mean they obviously if they do win, then
they're right on the doorstep because I mean, you win
one of those two games, then you're in the playoffs
because as I mentioned, they're ninety five percent probability to
make it. But Denver can clinch up the West and
the number one this weekend. You also could have Buffalo,
New England, Jacksonville and the Chargers, which at that point

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that would be interesting. With the Chargers, I guess they
would still be fighting for playoffs seedon.

Speaker 5 (01:58:54):
Reason why is because of that head to head is
so important for you to on the five seeds ship
on the four seed who will be the more than
like the Pittsburgh Singlers after last night's went over the
Miami Dolphins, who also were eliminated at this point, So
now we're down to three teams fighting for actually five
teams fighting for three spots in the AFC for a
wild card.

Speaker 4 (01:59:13):
Yeah, the teams that are just on the outside at
this moment, You've got the Colts and Ravens, which I mean,
with you being where you are nine to five, they're
eight and six. Doesn't seem like the Colts are gonna
have much of a chance.

Speaker 5 (01:59:25):
The Ravens can only get in if they win the
AFC Baker, which means at this point they need help
from Pittsburgh to lose.

Speaker 4 (01:59:32):
Well, then it gets to the belief in the Texans
in terms of the odds makers out there. Remember you
know you had Mike Rabele last week of somebody people
in Vegas. Who are those people? The odds makers? The
odds makers tell me who they are. Well, the odds
makers in this case are the DraftKings, sports book, super
Bowl odds for this upcoming year's big game. And you

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get the Rams are the favorite right now by a
pretty decent margin. I will put us three plus three
ten at the moment, just right behind them, though, the
team that they're gonna see Thursday night, Seahawks plus six fifty.

Speaker 3 (02:00:06):
They're right there and second.

Speaker 4 (02:00:07):
Tied for third are the couple of AFC teams that
are in front of you at the moment, the Broncos
and the Bills at plus eight hundred.

Speaker 3 (02:00:16):
They're both tied for third.

Speaker 4 (02:00:17):
Yes, okay, you are tied for fifth with the defending
champion Philadelphia Eagles at plus eleven hundred.

Speaker 3 (02:00:24):
Before we move on.

Speaker 5 (02:00:24):
To the Texans, I want to go focus on the
four teams that are ahead of them. Do you think
it's right to right now say Los Angeles should be
the betting favorite two win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (02:00:33):
I think it is right because I mean, the quarterback,
head coach, they've done it before. They have that experience.
And I understand that you know, seasons don't translate. That's fine,
but I mean Matt Stafford's playing at MVP level, and
that's a team that's getting it done in pretty much
every single way right now. Like if there is a
team that you can look at in the NFL and

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say that's a complete team, the La Rams are a
complete team.

Speaker 3 (02:00:58):
I will go step further in out.

Speaker 5 (02:01:00):
Do you know where the Rams rank in total yards
per game in the NFL?

Speaker 3 (02:01:05):
Do not?

Speaker 5 (02:01:05):
They are number two, and they are number two in
the NFL. Can you tell me where they rank in
total points allowed? Scoring wise defensively in the NFL?

Speaker 3 (02:01:13):
Same answer. They are number four in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (02:01:15):
They are currently the only team in the league that
has a top five scoring offense and a top five
scoring defense.

Speaker 3 (02:01:21):
That's why I think they should be the favorite.

Speaker 5 (02:01:22):
Because Seattle, for as good as they've played, they have
a top twelve scoring offense, they have a top twelve
total offense. They have a top seven scoring defense, but
they're not top five in either category. Los Angeles is
they have an MVP quarterback, they have a head coach
that's been here before. They have a good offensive line.
They can get pressure on the quarterbacks. They can take
away points by capitalizing defensively. They have an MVP caliber

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I mean, they have a Pro Bowl caliber running back.
They have a good wide receiver number two and DeVante Adams.
They got a wide receiver one that you can force feed.
They don't make a lot of mental mistakes. They are
one of the fewest panalized teams in the league. They're
hitting fire at the right time.

Speaker 3 (02:01:58):
CJ.

Speaker 5 (02:01:58):
Stroud talked about this on Sunday. He said, the teams
want to be playing their best version of football going
into the month of December right now. For as much
as we can say the Texans have been hot, I
would say the Rams have been scorching.

Speaker 8 (02:02:11):
Well.

Speaker 3 (02:02:11):
I mean, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:02:12):
The other part of this, too, is of all the
teams that I've mentioned, I didn't even mention the team
that's currently in second in the AFC, the New England Patriots.

Speaker 3 (02:02:19):
They're plus fifth. They're yeah, plus fifteen hundred. Okay, now,
now I'm.

Speaker 5 (02:02:24):
Gonna ask you this one because if I have decided
to change my tune a little bit, not by much.
I still do not believe that they can win a
Super Bowl, but I'm gonna get the benefit of the
doubt after watching what Boenix was able to accomplish on
Sunday against Green Bay, that I believe that the Denver
Broncos are not an easy out. I'm ready to put
them in the conversation of if you do not play

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your best version of football, they will find a way
to beat up on your mistakes and they'll beat you.

Speaker 3 (02:02:49):
I still do not believe in the New England Patriots,
and I think that.

Speaker 5 (02:02:51):
Sunday prove that by being up twenty one to nothing
over a Buffalo Bills team that had no momentum and
then proceeded to give up over three hundred.

Speaker 3 (02:03:00):
Seventy five yards and let Josh Allen claim.

Speaker 4 (02:03:01):
The MVA Well, I mean, and that's what I think
the board is dictating to you right now. I mean,
because you had a twenty one point lead on them
at home and you were unable to hold them off.
Like I think, if nothing else, a lot of the
you know, sharps and everybody out there that are already
starting to play some of the action on this.

Speaker 3 (02:03:15):
They look at New England and they're like, you're not
ready for this. They're not.

Speaker 5 (02:03:18):
I mean, like, let's be real, this feels very similar
to me to twenty twenty three Texans. And not to
be disrespectful, but the Texans had a fault when it
came to their defensive pass rush and I think their secondary.

Speaker 3 (02:03:30):
That made them feel as dropping the run too.

Speaker 5 (02:03:32):
They were susceptible to allowing the explosive places to happen
to where you didn't believe they can make it to
the super Bowl. You thought they could make it to
the playoffs. You thought that they would be good enough
to win a playoff game. But nobody was sitting here
and saying Texans super Bowl bound. Anybody that you speak
to that I think has a common pulse or at
least knows or understands the game of football is saying

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New England this year is the team to beat in
the AFC. They're saying that there's things to like about them.
They're saying that there's a lot to look at moving forward.
That's that's a good.

Speaker 3 (02:04:00):
Foundation for the long term.

Speaker 5 (02:04:03):
But nobody I've spoken to has said New England is
the one that you had to be worried about. I've
ford Buffalo, I for Denver, I've heard Houston, I've heard Baltimore.

Speaker 3 (02:04:10):
I've yet to hear in New England.

Speaker 4 (02:04:11):
Well, it also kind of feels like too, that there's
got to be a little bit of those growing pains
for quarterbacks where I mean, Drake May playing in an
MVP level, just like we were talking about Matthew Stafford earlier,
but like you've got to have that stumble before you
can take that step forward. Mahomes it happened to him,
I mean, losing the AFC to the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (02:04:31):
I mean, you know, losing Super Bowls.

Speaker 4 (02:04:33):
I mean that's also part of it too, where you
almost wonder for like Drake May and for New England,
like if that's part of it, Like if you know
this final stretch for them, they don't went out and
you kind of have a little bit of doubt with
them going into the playoffs, and then they're in that
wild card weekend and if it's them playing against Buffalo,
I'm taking Buffalo. If it's them playing against the Chargers,

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might be a little bit of a toss up there,
But if it's them playing against the t I trust
the Texans much more than I trust New England.

Speaker 5 (02:05:03):
You're saying New England against Los Angeles, right, Yes, yeah,
I would take New England only because of I need
to see it when it comes to Justin Herbert. Because again,
it's always been the same story. You've been to the playoff.
One year, you were up big against Jacksonville, you crated
the bed in the second half. Oh and by the way,
you got to play that game on the road. You're
being a wild card team this year, which means you
got to go up to Foxborough and play in that

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frigid temperature against a team that may be playing with
a little bit of house money. I will compare the
New England Patriots to another team that I think has
a good core in place to where you can believe
that there is going to be promise of the future.

Speaker 3 (02:05:35):
But I'm not sold of them yet.

Speaker 5 (02:05:37):
I think the Chicago Bears and the New England Patriots
have a lot of similar traits together when it comes.

Speaker 3 (02:05:41):
To believing long term.

Speaker 5 (02:05:43):
They fix the major problem, but they're a year away
from being a year.

Speaker 4 (02:05:46):
Wife well, I mean, and you know, I think it's
also too you can look at it from the Texans perspective,
as I know a lot of people kind of looked
at last year as being a down year. It was
the same record wise as you had the year previous.
It's just it's kind of like one of those that
like remember when true freshmen would come on the scene
in either college basketball or college football and have an

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outstanding season and then the following year it was maybe
like right on par just not as good. Oh sophomore slump.
It's like, no, they just had a really good freshman year.
I think you see that a lot in the NFL, too,
where you get that first year head coach bounce where
you do change some things, there is some belief in
the building and maybe there is a little bit of
sneaking up on teams out there. And I mean, I

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think we saw that in twenty three with the Texans.
I mean you mentioned about, you know, some of their
defensive you know, deficiencies they had that season, and that's
the thing is I mean I remember that press conference
immediately on that Monday of Demiko Ryan saying we've got
to shore up the defensive line because that's what we
saw was the difference in that game. We were not
physical enough to be able to stop them. They ground

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us down, they beat us.

Speaker 5 (02:06:50):
But at the same time, it's all about what were
your expectations going into the year, Because to be completely transparent,
I think most people would have said that it was
a solid first season for Jayden Daniel if he would
have just led the team to the playoff and was
the secondary idol part with it. But the problem was
that he was the X factor. He ended up breaking CJ.
Stroud's record for passing yards, he ended up having more
passing touchdowns. Many considered it to be the greatest rookie

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season of all time. So we put the wagon before
the horse and said, listen, now, we expected to be
playing alongside Josh Allen, We expected to be playing alongside
Joe Burrow. We expected to be right there with Lamar
Jackson for MVP conversation.

Speaker 3 (02:07:25):
And I always think that that's up too.

Speaker 5 (02:07:27):
So I really believe that is just an absolute outlier
to where you're setting sky high reality expectations when reality states,
let's see them duplicate their numbers before we go ahead
and consider them in that same stratosphere.

Speaker 3 (02:07:41):
And I said that.

Speaker 5 (02:07:41):
About CJ, and I got a lot of pushback in
the city because if.

Speaker 3 (02:07:44):
Everyone wanted to say, you hate CJ.

Speaker 5 (02:07:46):
Stroud, you hate the Texans, you don't believe this team
is going to be good and lo and behold. They
had a solid season last year, but they relied so
heavily on their defense more than their offense.

Speaker 3 (02:07:56):
It didn't mean that either that they were a bad team.

Speaker 5 (02:07:58):
It just meant that they were a team that was
flowed in certain areas that they had to correct. Right now,
I feel like they've corrected some of those areas while
still relying heavily on their defense, and that's okay. It
doesn't mean that they're a bad team. It just means
that they're a faulty one.

Speaker 4 (02:08:10):
People who know how to get deep into the playoffs
believe in this Texans team will let you hear from
them as we continue here in the nine o'clock yard
is the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole.

Speaker 3 (02:08:19):
Right here Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 1 (02:08:20):
Ninety Dan Matthews, Cole Thompson. This is the Morning Drive
with Dan and Cole.

Speaker 4 (02:08:31):
You know, it's it's one of those things too that
like COVID taught you like some things, like one of
them is literally you know, this could be an email,
not a meeting. Well, in the NFL, it was instead
of having to have everybody there, they're like, hey, here's
an iPad. Watch your film on that.

Speaker 5 (02:08:47):
Three hundred and ninety nine yards, twenty three first downs
they scored on. They scored on eight different drives.

Speaker 3 (02:08:53):
They had.

Speaker 5 (02:08:53):
Out of eleven total drives, they averaged two hundred and
fifty six total yards. They had five palties, but they
won the time. Yeah, they also want my twenty points.
I will see you on Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (02:09:04):
Yeah, and a lot of times too. I mean it's
you know, that's that's the trust. But this time of
the year, you want to make sure that you know,
guys are staying as fresh as possible.

Speaker 3 (02:09:14):
And it's not like you'd be doing a ton on
that Monday anyway.

Speaker 5 (02:09:17):
Well, I can tell you what I'd be looking out
on the Monday morning quarterback film.

Speaker 3 (02:09:20):
Hey can you score inside the red zone?

Speaker 13 (02:09:23):
No?

Speaker 5 (02:09:23):
Okay, well let's look back. Have we ever been able
to score inside the red zone?

Speaker 8 (02:09:27):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:09:27):
All right, the meeting over. Just call it a day,
because that's what it is at this point. Dan Matthews.

Speaker 5 (02:09:33):
It is like, I mean, it's not to be disrespectful,
it's not that I'm saying that I don't believe that
the Texans could be a team that makes a run.
But at some point you just got to sit here
and say, guys, we're a mediocre red zone offense. It's
not changing in Week sixteen of the NFL season, and
it's not changing because we're taking on a Las Vegas
Raiders squad.

Speaker 1 (02:09:50):
It's just not well.

Speaker 4 (02:09:51):
At least, there are some people out there that do
believe that this Texans team could have a run in
them this year. And we'll have some of that audio
for you right now. Two coaches, we got a quarterback.
Let's start with the quarterback. Matt Ryan, part of NFL
on at CBS. So the conversation was about how the
Texans started off the year zero to three, then there
were three and five, and ever since that three and

(02:10:13):
five start, they've been able to go on this run
that they're on currently of six straight wins, looking like
that's going to be seven straight on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (02:10:20):
So Matt Ryan pointing.

Speaker 4 (02:10:21):
To two decisions that were made by Demico Ryans that
he feels like might have saved their season.

Speaker 11 (02:10:27):
Demiko felt like it was best for him to step
back from that play calling role and allow his assistant
coaches to go into that. He also had to go
over to the offensive side of the ball and say
what we have been doing is not good enough, correct
and we have to spend and invest more time there.
And that's what I think great leaders do.

Speaker 4 (02:10:45):
So the offensive side of it that he was talking about,
and you just brought up the red zone struggles. I mean,
I've said at numerous times, what are some of the
scariest words to hear in sports? Texans have the ball
at their opponents five. I mean, because it just seems
like so many times that they're in those sits situations.
You're worried that there's going to be a false start,
there's going to be a hole, that there's going to
be an illegal motion, there's going to be something that

(02:11:08):
knocks you back from there. Then CJ is going to
be get sacked on third down. So then here comes
Kayami fairbron Did you say you worry about it happening? Yeah, No,
I would rather say it is going to happen. You're
preparing mentally for it to happen. Those are going to
be things that will eventually occur. The question is how
is it going to occur this time.

Speaker 5 (02:11:27):
Will it be the false start, Will it be the
off side's penalty?

Speaker 3 (02:11:31):
Will it be the illegal formation?

Speaker 19 (02:11:33):
Will c J.

Speaker 5 (02:11:33):
Stroung get sacked on third down? It's no longer a
question of are we worried about it? It's which one
are we going to avoid on this drive to set
up a Kyami fairburn field goal.

Speaker 3 (02:11:42):
It's just like the we talked about a little bit earlier,
the offensive off sides penalty, which number one, It wasn't
even one hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (02:11:50):
This is the first sure that it could happen. It's
the first time of the NFL I've ever heard, Like the.

Speaker 4 (02:11:53):
First time I heard it in Kansas City, I was like,
he misspoke, didn't he Like he just said false start?
But it's like, no, well he was legit in the
neutral zone because I mean, you know, you only think
the defensive guys can do that, but an offensive guy
and then it happened again.

Speaker 3 (02:12:07):
I think that's kind of frustration that people will have
at times with Demiko and especially the offensive staff, like
where it's just like we're in week sixteen, like how
do these continue to happen?

Speaker 5 (02:12:16):
Because if this is who the Texans are, Like, I
don't mean to beat a dead horse. But like the
reason why I say that the Texans still worry me
in one capacity, it is the fact that the red
zone offense has been detrimentally underwhelming all year.

Speaker 3 (02:12:30):
It's the pre stat penalties.

Speaker 5 (02:12:31):
When it comes to the offensive line, They've improved in
so many different facets. They've gotten better in pass protection.
They've done a good job of opening up running lanes.
They're doing a good job of making sure that they
don't have any big, big negations when it comes to
place like Arianta Ursru, when you look back at the film,
had one of his best performances of the week, I mean,
of the season. The problem is is that we're not

(02:12:52):
paying attention to that. We're paying attention to the fall start.
We're paying attention to the holding call. Because you can
have seven or eight great reps, it's elite pass rushers.
But all we're focusing on is okay, when does the
other shoe drop? No morely, any tounc will getting the
fall start, but instead we're gonna watch his X, Y
and Z player doesn't gets it.

Speaker 3 (02:13:10):
Instead.

Speaker 4 (02:13:11):
Well, even with some of those wards that the Texans
might have offensively, the coach or in this case, as
you said, the jaw Bill Kawer is. He's also on
the NFL on CBS. He just flat out says Texans
a legit.

Speaker 12 (02:13:25):
I watched them against the Kansas City Chiefs when the
Kansas City Chiefs were desperate on a Sunday night, and
I tell you they went toe to toe with them.
That is one football team defensively you're gonna get in there.

Speaker 14 (02:13:36):
I wouldn't want to play them.

Speaker 12 (02:13:37):
I think it's the best defense in football right now,
playing at the highest of levels. And they got a
quarterback who's starting to feel his oats right now, and
they got a.

Speaker 3 (02:13:44):
Running game that goes with that.

Speaker 12 (02:13:46):
The Houston Texas to me, I'll tell you what, you
better buckled up.

Speaker 3 (02:13:52):
Feeling his oats.

Speaker 4 (02:13:53):
I guess that's right along with what I dropped yesterday,
loaded for Bear, which I believe it was Anthony that
backed me up on it. One the actual like origin
of the saying loaded for bear was and I think
it was Anthony this morning also too that throughout that
and he has tried bear. So no, both of those things,
but at least you know, just no. Look, you know,

(02:14:16):
like I said, I appreciate the audience.

Speaker 5 (02:14:17):
You know, he's helping you out to make you sound
like that make you sounds a lot smarter.

Speaker 4 (02:14:21):
Well, I mean, look, a lot of people just think that,
you know, being smart is just you know, going off
of the knowledge that you already have. No, being smart
is gathering the information and being able to use that.

Speaker 5 (02:14:34):
Yeah, using phrases from the nineteen thirties is definitely a
way to show off your brain. You start doing the
old school radio guy beg you please not to. I mean,
you're going to no matter what to just get it off.
Just here five seconds go.

Speaker 3 (02:14:46):
I mean, now that I'm on the spot, it's gonna
be kind of tough, but the Texan boy is taking
on the fellows from Las Vegas. One. There we go.
We got it out of the one. I mean it
was it was a pretty haphazard effort.

Speaker 7 (02:14:56):
I thought.

Speaker 5 (02:14:57):
I thought it was at least a B minus performance
you could have for pretty there used.

Speaker 4 (02:15:00):
To be a guy on this town who, you know,
like when sports updates were still a thing on sports
radio stations that he almost sounded like like nineteen fifties,
like radio reporter guy.

Speaker 3 (02:15:13):
You know, the.

Speaker 4 (02:15:13):
American boy is over in the European theater, you know,
like just like doing all of these things, and he
would do it for updates and people are like, what
is he even saying?

Speaker 3 (02:15:22):
Like what is happening here?

Speaker 5 (02:15:23):
How about you ask me what was John Gruden saying
about the Texans.

Speaker 4 (02:15:27):
That's a good point, that's a good rescue here, because
John Gruden on Wake Up Barstool, just like coach Kauer,
he's a Texans believer.

Speaker 13 (02:15:35):
And I'm going with the Houston Texans.

Speaker 10 (02:15:37):
Man.

Speaker 14 (02:15:38):
I just think they are surgeon.

Speaker 13 (02:15:40):
They are special on defense. And it's not just the
past rushers.

Speaker 14 (02:15:44):
It's not just the corners.

Speaker 13 (02:15:46):
It's a collection of really good.

Speaker 14 (02:15:48):
Players, and Scroud has taken off.

Speaker 13 (02:15:51):
I think they're playing with great confidence. I wouldn't be
surprised to see Seattle play Houston.

Speaker 14 (02:15:56):
I know the networks would love that.

Speaker 3 (02:15:58):
A collective belief in c J. Stroud. In this segment
that they were doing yesterday, it was John Gruden along
with Dave Portnoy and Greg Olsen.

Speaker 4 (02:16:05):
Olsen said that he was going with the Rams and
the Bills as his Super Bowl picks. But then you
just heard John Gruden right there again getting back to
c J. Stroud getting that belief back. I mean seeing
him starting to look like that he was the guy
that he was a couple of years ago, and it
looks like that people who are following the league.

Speaker 3 (02:16:24):
Closely, you're seeing the same thing.

Speaker 5 (02:16:26):
Buffalo needs to find a way to lose the game
because of the last thing I would like to see
happen is them be the five seed.

Speaker 3 (02:16:31):
You'd be the sixth seed.

Speaker 5 (02:16:32):
You feel confident about going and winning on out getting
to the AFC Championship game, and even though you have
the head to head, you gotta go play at high
Mark Stadium close out the year with games against the Browns,
the Eagles, and the Jets. So everybody come Christmas weekend
on the twenty eighth, you are pulling for Philadelphia because.

Speaker 3 (02:16:48):
The head to head.

Speaker 5 (02:16:49):
That's different about hosting a playoff game in the AFC
title matchup versus playing in negative two degree weather, Well
you like.

Speaker 3 (02:16:57):
To be able to avoid that one.

Speaker 4 (02:16:58):
But I mean, at least, if nothing else, it just
kind of feels like for the first time in a
really long time, because I think that there are people
who liked what the Texans were doing in twenty three.
I don't think anybody believed in them last year. Offensively,
nobody believed in this team, and it was also a
team that had issues being able to, I mean just
flat out play discipline football.

Speaker 5 (02:17:18):
Okay, But can I push back and say the reason
why I didn't believe in the Texans in twenty twenty
three had nothing to do with them as a team
and had everything to do with the fact that they
played a fourth place schedule and the fact that they
didn't have any film on CJ. Stroud so eventually he
was gonna get got Like, that's the difference between I
think twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four. Twenty twenty four,
you didn't believe in this team because of their offense

(02:17:40):
showed you how disastrous it was that even with an
elite defense that was not at the same level of
what we're seeing this year but still pretty dang close,
they couldn't bail you out of trouble. I think that's
really where you kind of separate the two.

Speaker 4 (02:17:53):
All right, Well, continue the conversation by heading on over
to the college side, because arch Manning is back for
two twenty twenty six. But what he stands to gain
we'll discuss right here as we continue. It is the
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Speaker 3 (02:19:53):
The surprise would have been him saying, now I've done enough,
I'm moving on.

Speaker 5 (02:19:57):
To be fair, have you you've seen this quarterback draft
class right now?

Speaker 4 (02:20:03):
I mean it seems like Mendoza will probably be the
first one.

Speaker 3 (02:20:07):
The only name right now that I can guarantee says
this is the first round.

Speaker 10 (02:20:10):
See.

Speaker 3 (02:20:10):
Here's the thing, though, too, is that's not no no, no, no,
non is.

Speaker 20 (02:20:16):
Good, But yes, I'm what you call the quarterback classes trash.

Speaker 3 (02:20:19):
Okay, hang on, TRIVILEI let's let's be real.

Speaker 5 (02:20:21):
You watched that beautiful, eloquent speech that we heard on
on Saturday evening from.

Speaker 3 (02:20:28):
He's going to be that.

Speaker 5 (02:20:29):
He is going to be better known fifty years from
now as a politician, that he will as the number
two overall pick. I am telling you right now, he
will not be known for his football days. He'll be
known for setting the laws in order, about bringing ties
together between Cuban Americans and other things that are going
on society. That is what we will know Fananda Mendoza for.

(02:20:49):
He was not signaling to NFL franchises. I would like
to be your next gun singer. He was signaling to politics.
Wait for me in DC. I'll be there soon enough.
So you know I'm right on this one too.

Speaker 9 (02:21:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:21:05):
Yeah, So CBS has him as their top ranked quarterback
at the moment, and then number next closest is Tys
Simpson at twelve.

Speaker 5 (02:21:13):
Did at this point, I'm gonna be completely wrong.

Speaker 3 (02:21:16):
Dante Moore is thirteen.

Speaker 5 (02:21:18):
Okay, So so Dante Moore still may go back to
Oregon next year, which is what I'm hearing. And then
for ty Simpson, depending on how he looks at the
top five quarterbacks that CBS has right now are Mendoza, Simpson, more,
Josh Hoover from TCU, and John Mattire Okay Oklahoma sooner
the nation. Yeah, where are you drafting John Mattire?

Speaker 3 (02:21:42):
You go first round?

Speaker 20 (02:21:43):
But I would about first ten, well, not allied, because yes,
everybody has a quarterback now, so.

Speaker 3 (02:21:50):
I would take him in the fifth round earliest.

Speaker 4 (02:21:52):
I was going to say, I think, I think at
best he is like a second third. Think he's late
late night to early day three.

Speaker 5 (02:22:02):
Yes, and that's being nice about it. That's he ends
up wowing up.

Speaker 3 (02:22:05):
The problem this year.

Speaker 5 (02:22:07):
Well, that's the point is that, like right now, thankfully,
the Texans need to get a deal dumb with C. J.
Stroud because of where the quarterback situation is going into
next season and especially when it comes to the draft.
But for me, again, you're talking about a guy in
Ty Simpson who may or may not go out this year.
You're talking about potentially Josh Hoover who's entering the transfer portal.
You're talking about Jo Matier, who I still think needs

(02:22:27):
a year to develop because if he missed so much
time with the hand injury. I do think that Dante
Moore is coming back next year. So really, when you
break it all down, it's shocking that Arch is a guaranteed,
no questions ask coming back only because of how well
he played to close out twenty twenty five. There will
be a scout dumb enough to say that guy's top

(02:22:47):
ten pick.

Speaker 4 (02:22:48):
Here's the other thing to think about this year, too,
is that you're going to have you know, in the NFL,
you always look for, Hey, who's the next guy, Who's
the next guy? Tyler Shuck is one of those guys
that the same we're able to get, and he's had
a good last few weeks. But I think that a
guy that's going to be talked about in the exact
same way is gonna be Garrett Nusmeyer.

Speaker 3 (02:23:08):
Okay, yes, I agree with you to an extent.

Speaker 5 (02:23:12):
I think that nuss Meyer was putting a really crappy
situation this year at LSU. He dealt with the injuries,
he didn't have a good offensive line to where he
is going to fall into Day two. At some point,
probably the third round, a team will see enough in
him to start him at least two or three games
next season because.

Speaker 4 (02:23:26):
The talking points for him, and we'll we'll get back
into arch here too. I mean, you know, I know
that with him coming back, well we'll get into that,
but I mean, with him, it's going to be his
dad in the NFL pedigree that he has. He's he's
grown up around film rooms, he's been all part of
all of that. He's going to interview incredibly well. And
then the other talking point is going to be, hey,
I was banged up all year. I was hurt all

(02:23:47):
season long. I'm healthy. Now I can throw for you guys.
I can show you what I can bring. And all
of those things are going to have as sure as
you're born. The Combine leading up to April, it's going
to be Kuyper, Lewis, Riddick, all of these people out
there saying, hey, don't sleep on Garrett Nesmeyer.

Speaker 3 (02:24:04):
I'm telling you right now that's gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (02:24:05):
Well, the thing is is that right now all we
have is just the film from this season, which means
that we are sleeping on him. But then when he's
healthy and he's at the Combine and he ends up
showing that he's got the arm strength, and he's got
the mentality and the IQ is through the roof, and
people are falling in love with who he is as
a player. Then yeah, we're gonna get right back into
that conversation of hey, he may end up being this
year's Tyler Shuck, which I think is ultimately what you're

(02:24:27):
gonna look at. He just will be going to New
Orleans and'll be going to like, oh, someone like Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (02:24:31):
Here's the thing too, is that Arch could have come
out for this year and he would have been the
first guy selected, because I do think that teams would
have looked at him as opposed him indoze, there are
any of these other guys that you could possibly go
with and say best one, we can work with it.

Speaker 3 (02:24:45):
We can take our lumps to the beginning.

Speaker 4 (02:24:47):
Here's what works for Texas though, is the beginning season
struggles that he had this year. It was if nothing
else for Steve Sarkisian, for his family, anybody else, to
let him know, hey, there's still growth, like there's still time.
There's no need for you to jump right in because
I mean, he comes out next.

Speaker 3 (02:25:05):
Year, he's a fourth year guy.

Speaker 5 (02:25:06):
Well, at the same time, I think that Arch coming
from a background that has so much football pedigree. They
wants you to be as physically prepared and is mentally
prepared to handle being a full time starter in the NFL.
The guys barely turned twenty one. So right now, you
look at how he gets another season to be in
the same offense that helped him really kind of find

(02:25:26):
his footing toward the season's end. They're gonna spend money
in the transfer portal. They're coming off of a top
five recruiting class. They have some good pieces in play.
They're going to build an offensive line around him. And
keep in mind, Dan, he ended the season as one
of the hottest quarterbacks, not just in the SEC in
college football. Look at his numbers in the first month
of the season. Last month of the season complete percentage

(02:25:47):
up nearly doubled his passing yards, nine touchdowns against one interception.
He was only sacked five times, he had two rushing touchdowns,
and he had backback signature wins the close out the year.
So you add all that together, you're riding hot going
into next offseason. And people have seen what the legit
version of arch maning is. That's the expectation moving forward,
and if you deliver on that, then your draft stock's

(02:26:09):
not going to be hurt. It's only going to improve
because of what you showed during these last four weeks.
Is that, yes, there is stuff there that I believe in.
I can translate harness and put together a meaningful quarterback
and have a really solid position.

Speaker 3 (02:26:22):
But if you're even better than that, you're getting the
number one overall pick. Here's a quick story.

Speaker 4 (02:26:25):
I mean, like when it comes into you know, evaluating quarterbacks.
As a buddy of mine got a rookie tryout with
Washington's Hudson Mason. He played quarterback at Georgia, and he
had a good tryout and he was, you know, just
kind of dumbfounded when they were cutting them loose and
he was just like, whoah, wait a minute.

Speaker 3 (02:26:41):
And they said, hey, look, it's nothing against you.

Speaker 4 (02:26:43):
We just want twenty seven games of film to be
able to make a good evaluation of a player.

Speaker 3 (02:26:48):
We didn't have that on you. That's why we're letting
you go.

Speaker 4 (02:26:51):
So, I mean, I think that arch kind of runs
into the same situation there. Of you get another year,
you get those games, you are able to work behind
a much more experienced and better offensive line who had
a really good game against Texas A and M.

Speaker 3 (02:27:05):
Like that you saw that, you were just like, where
was this all?

Speaker 13 (02:27:08):
You? Like?

Speaker 5 (02:27:08):
That's the argument that where Texas fans keep coming at
us and saying we've along in the college Football Playoff
because of how well we looked against Texas A and M.
And my rebuttal for that is, yeah, you looked awesome
against Texas A and M. That's a team I can
believe will win a national title. But that wasn't the
team that showed on up against Kentucky. That wasn't the
team that showed on up against Misissippi State. That wasn't
the team that showed on up at Columbus or when

(02:27:30):
you went down to Gainesville or when you went to Athens.
So you got to play that hot at the start
of the season to give yourself that momentum going into
next season. And I'll be completely honest, Texas is going
to be in the playoff next year. They'll fright the wrongs,
they'll finalize the ship, they'll be in the conversation to
go to the SEC title game, and it will largely
be because of sixteam coming on back.

Speaker 4 (02:27:49):
Well, and I mean, you know this year preseason number
one and clearly didn't live up to that expectation. Next year,
I probably would guess right now that they'll be preseason
number one.

Speaker 3 (02:27:59):
You thinkumber one? Next season? Yeah, I will go top five.
I think that they will be four.

Speaker 5 (02:28:05):
I think the winner of the national championship, if it
is Ohio State or Georgia, will get the not at
number one. Now if it's Indiana, that's where maybe we
can have a conversation because they're gonna be doing a
lot of backportaling in. They're gonna be adding in a
lot of pieces. It's not gonna be built the exact same.
So I will push back when it comes to depending
on who ends up winning the whole damn thing, which
starts Friday night with Triple EE team losing to my team,

(02:28:28):
and then me getting the.

Speaker 20 (02:28:28):
And then me getting breakfast next Monday dance, and then
it will be I count on that I.

Speaker 5 (02:28:35):
Will be fantastically drinking a Shiner bock in the nine
o'clock hour from a six pack that that that we're
gonna have triple A.

Speaker 4 (02:28:41):
Buy Meyeah, look it's five o'clock somewhere. That's I always
love that a little early, huh. Who are you to judge?

Speaker 3 (02:28:47):
All right?

Speaker 18 (02:28:48):
What do you?

Speaker 3 (02:28:48):
What do you got?

Speaker 4 (02:28:48):
You got a perfect life right there? You think you
can judge me, it's notin'clock you can judge me.

Speaker 5 (02:28:53):
After the Texans will have a dominant forty two to
nothing win over the Las Vegas Raiders.

Speaker 3 (02:28:58):
That's a holiday, It's a it's subbatory beer. Yeah, I
was gonna say. I mean most people, if they're being honest,
probably doing a little bit of day drinking. That's fine.
Look enjoy it. It's the holidays, it's vacation. Enjoy it.

Speaker 5 (02:29:08):
See, but we don't have vacation till Thursday. Well speak
for yourself. I know you get to go on vacation
before that. All good man, you get those times, you
take that time, all right? Somebody had a take that.
My response is no, we won't. And the other one
give it up. The dream is over.

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Speaker 1 (02:31:11):
Back to Danny Cole as the morning Drive cruise is on.

Speaker 3 (02:31:18):
As soon as I saw this matchup just a couple
of weeks ago, I was like, that's gonna be Spirodidas
and Adam archallettas on I'll tell you in a second,
so that's probably who we're getting.

Speaker 4 (02:31:27):
But anyway, someone three two one two five seven ninety
last couple of minutes, if you want to get in,
we'll start first with the uh no, we won't.

Speaker 8 (02:31:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:31:38):
I think you know by now that there's a few
people in the industry that I'm just like, why are
you still a thing?

Speaker 3 (02:31:43):
Rich Eisen's one of those people.

Speaker 4 (02:31:45):
Ah and Rich Eisen h the NFL is quote more
fun when the Chiefs are good. You're gonna miss the
Kansas City Chiefs when the AFC playoffs are hitting.

Speaker 3 (02:31:54):
No, we won't. No, we won't.

Speaker 4 (02:31:56):
And for the strict purpose of they're not the same team.
I mean, Patrick Mahomes was not the same this year.
He's not even playing, so no, we're not going to
miss him. Travis Kelcey a shell of who he used
to be. No, we're not going to miss them. Chris
Jones was about the only really redeeming quality of that
team this year, and he didn't even know that they
were missing the playoffs. So no, like, there isn't going

(02:32:17):
to be this you know, Oh you know what, it's
just not the same without the Chiefs and the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (02:32:21):
Like it's gonna be said, No one that's not in
Missouri or Kansas.

Speaker 5 (02:32:26):
Nobody's gonna miss the Chiefs in the playoffs other than
just the television people because of its for rating purposes.

Speaker 3 (02:32:31):
It's like hate watching Notre Dame.

Speaker 5 (02:32:33):
Like people are pissed off that Nardie's not in the
playoff because you'll hate watch them. By the way, it's
Andrew Catalan, Charles Davis, and Jason mccordy. Oh really, CD
is my guy. I might I might have to see
if CD will join see your buddy, yes he is.
To give him a phone call and see if you
can join us on Thursday.

Speaker 4 (02:32:48):
Okay, yeah, I'll shoot him, shoot him a note. Yeah,
Charles is the best. Love love Charles.

Speaker 5 (02:32:53):
But like to be completely honest, I get what he's
saying because if he's doing it from a up and
from a position not of a fan base, he's doing
it from a position of ratings.

Speaker 3 (02:33:02):
Like think about it.

Speaker 5 (02:33:03):
You and I are talking about the college football playoff
going on this weekend and TNT is now having games
of two Lane versus Ole Miss and JMU versus Oregon.
When TNT signed that deal, do you think that that's
what they expected to be their lone stand up game
that they're gonna have over a four week period.

Speaker 3 (02:33:20):
No, they expected to have Notre Dame. They expect to
have Texas.

Speaker 5 (02:33:24):
They expect to have I would go Clemson or Penn
State or any of those teams like they had last season.
So Rich Eisen's not looking through it through the eyes
of the public. He's not looking at it through the
eyes of a fan. He's looking at it through the
eyes of a television broadcast crew who says, oh, now,
instead of going to Arrowhead, we got to go to Duval,
oh instead of going to Instead of seeing Patrick Mahomes
take on Lamar Jackson, we get to go watch forty

(02:33:46):
five year old Aaron Rodgers, who's basically a shill of
himself and can barely walk after a game. Be the
option over you know what you have with two MVP quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (02:33:56):
This is the case.

Speaker 4 (02:33:57):
I just I think that the people who watch are
going to watch regardless, and I mean you're not gonna
have to worry about them, even the casual ones. I
mean it's a little bit of the urgency of Hey,
the football season is coming to an end. I better
watch as much of this as I can, and otherwise
I gotta wait nine months until it comes back.

Speaker 3 (02:34:15):
I think that that's all part of it.

Speaker 5 (02:34:16):
Watching Garner Minshoot throw the football to Noah Gray. Because
I'm gonna tell you right now, Travis Kelce by this
time next week will not be playing football.

Speaker 3 (02:34:25):
No, he won't.

Speaker 4 (02:34:26):
And I mean that's why, you know we talked about
the Christmas games earlier. I mean, there's a real possibility
that they're not going to overtake the NFL, but the
NBA is probably gonna have their best year that they've
had on Christmas Day since the NFL decided, Yeah, that's
our day, and it's not our day too, it's our day.

Speaker 5 (02:34:43):
I can come up with a scenario for every reason
why each game on the on Christmas Day is better
than the three games that we will have for the
upcoming week for the.

Speaker 3 (02:34:52):
NBA, I mean for the NFL. So you're saying that
the NBA will be better than.

Speaker 5 (02:34:57):
The Knicks versus Cavs, two t teams that need to
have a win to guarantee that they're in the top
four seeds in the Eastern Conference. Spurs versus thunder Thundered
looking to be to continue their winning streak. The Spurs
right now looking to take on over as the favorites
in the Western Conference over the Rockets Mavericks versus Warriors,
two teams that suck, two teams that need to find
somebody juice, two teams that probably are just going to

(02:35:19):
throw away their seasons. Rockets versus Lakers. The Lakers in
the Rockets right now have the near identical schedule. Having
that head to head is going to matter in the
Western Conference Timberwolves versus Nuggets. The Nuggets are a team
that right now is on the is on the come up.
Timberwolves have been a sleeping giant. Maybe getting a win
like this is able to put them in the conversation
to where we start believing them as a Western Conference threat.

Speaker 3 (02:35:38):
Got about a minute, why is Jordan Hudson still doing
cheerleading competitions because she's twenty four and people love it.
She's having like a midlife crisis at twenty four.

Speaker 5 (02:35:48):
Oh and her seventy one year old boyfriend does not
have a midlife crisis.

Speaker 4 (02:35:52):
I will give her this. As TMZ Sports pointed out,
she is pretty good at trolling. I love supporting at
Bill Belichick at as a adult all male football league
competitions all season until next year, Keenan, which, of course, I'm.

Speaker 3 (02:36:05):
Sure probably there are a lot of the responses of
we hope you're not here next year.

Speaker 5 (02:36:08):
I mean, if she really wants to go ahead and
guarantee herself to be in cheerleading for a while, just
get Bluecher to sponsor her.

Speaker 4 (02:36:14):
He uses it every night anyways, He's called Thompson Triple e.
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Speaker 3 (02:36:23):
We talk to you in twenty hours.