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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is the Morning Drive with Dadd and Cole.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Let's start it off here, Cole with the first thing
that I mentioned there, because I mean, I know that
a lot of people are gonna say, well, wait a minute,
college football. You know, we like it around here, we
don't love it. But I mean I also would say,
I mean yesterday the conversation we had about Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I mean, yeah, there's plenty of.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
People that definitely care a good amount about college football,
and the rankings usually will get people fired up as
you get texting and m dropping the number seven Texas
in at thirteen, and how about the Kougs going in
the bowl season number twenty one, So a possibility of
a top twenty finish in the very first second season
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for Willie Fritz over at U of.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
H, who says that we don't talk about the Creigers
on this channel, who says that we don't talk about
oh you get those two?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Of course I do. Everyone gets them to get them.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Look, I would love to talk about them even more
if they were ten and two. Hell, if they handled
business against West Virginia and TCU, well, we would have
been talking a lot more about them, and we still will.
But I mean, you know, I mean, they're nine and three,
they're twenty one. It's nice, very nice. Hopefully it's a
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jumping off point for Willie Fritz.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
They're gonna finish off as the number four team in
the Big twelve, which is also kind of moronic because
let me explain. You know, you know who's right ahead
of them, right Arizona, you know, as you know, as
a head head win over Arizona East Carriers. So sorry,
just want to go ahead and say if we're gonna
respect head to heads, which we clearly don't because Miami
somehow is still behind Notre Dame. I guess it's only
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fair that we just say a Big twelve losers who
aren't going to Arlington this weekend. It's fine, nobody's care. Yeah,
I care, I care about that stuff. Be better, honey,
Why am I asking to be better? You say the
dumbest things possible every single Tuesday night. You make moronic,
takes every opportunity that you get. It's clear is say
that you have no idea what you're doing when it
comes to running the college football playoff community and running
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the college football playoff standings. But how let's just go
ahead to make six seven jokes. Why don't we Well,
I'm very passionate about this.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
If you can't tell me yes, yes, yes, no, and
we can use that, that's very good. But I mean, Cole,
I've also told you numerous times that I lost getting
angry and annoyed about it a long time ago because
a buddy of mine pointed this out to me, and
I've had the mindset ever since it's a TV show.
You need to remember that it's a TV show.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Oh really it is.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I couldn't tell because I just realized I forgot that
BYU that just saw its head coach say Penn State, Thanks,
but no thanks, I'm gonna stick around here.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
They have to win to guarantee their spot in.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Meanwhile, Miami that has a head to head wind over
the Golden Domers, they have to pray for a miracle
to guarantee their spot in.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Well, we'll definitely I get into that part of it too,
because it's even a little bit of desperation setting in
for Miami's case, not from Miami, it's from somebody else,
and we'll talk about that. But as I mentioned A
and M at number seven, So look, you don't get
the win over Texas and you don't finish the regular
season undefeated. And I've had Aggie fans say, you know, hey,
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you know college football playoff like like trying to like
rationalize it to themselves, and look, you know what, I
hate it doing caveats. I am going to pick an
old wound here. Okay, I'll just go ahead and be
honest like that burns you that if you're an Aggie fan,
that has to burn you.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I understand what you say.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
But undefeated and beating them in without a shadow of
a doubt, knocking them out of the conversation. I mean,
that would have been the icing on the cake for everything,
having gone through a special season where you ran the
table from beginning to end undefeated and beat some of
your chief rivals along the way to keep.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Them out of it. Yes, it does, it does matter.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Well, here's the thing, Dan, think about this for a
second and seven one three, two, one two five seven nine.
If you want to chim on in on the college
football playoff rankings, where your team is and who you
think there's to be on out, think about Oklahoma for
a second. Oklahoma is gonna go to the playoff this year.
Oklahoma's a lot to go to the playoff. You can't
move them down or penalize them because there's no way
to do so when they don't have a game that
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you can use as a data point. They beat Alabama
on the road, they beat Tennessee on the road, they
beat LSU. They went ten and two with an anemic offense.
You know what you're still gonna have to live with.
Texas went into Dallas. Texas was coming off of one
of its worst losses of the year.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
They beat the crap out of you.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
That stinks. That's what a rivalry is supposed to be.
And for Texas A and M, you're going to the playoff.
But you want to know what Texas can still say
over you. We've been to Atlanta before you. You had
a thirteen year head start. You still haven't been there. Hey,
we've played in a championship game before you. You can't
say that. You haven't been able to say that since
nineteen thirty nine. Hey, we've actually had an opportunity to
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play in the college football playoffs semi finals.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Are you gonna be able to say that?
Speaker 5 (05:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
If you're facing off against an our name, Round one
feels pretty lucky.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
With that standpoint, so of course it bothers them.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
And the other part that really bothers them is that
you're starting to see the wheels kind of fall off
the track for Texas A and M.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I don't know if they're guaranteed to go from being
in the.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
First round by to getting a first round by to
getting a first round.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Win at this point. So everything is falling.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Off the track just a little bit. It's a little funny,
but at the same time it has this thing, oh, yeah,
we're in the playoff, you lost to Texas and now
you're not even hosting a player and now you're not
even getting a first round by because of it.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Congratulations. Well, I mean it's it's not only that.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
And I mean, as you know, a saal Peter Burns
pointed out, and it's valid that I guess, A you know,
not a bad consolation prize is that you get to
open up at Kyle Field, which is a tough place
to play. But I will say this, if chalk somewhat holds,
which it's not you, you're gonna have teams that lose
fall out any of those things. Even though that they
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try to say, oh, you're not penalized for playing conference
championship weekend. Sure, whatever, but they play Notre Dame again,
it's not gonna go well for them.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
No one team right now I think has both sides
of the football figured out. The other team I think
very much needs to fix a lot of open wounds,
and I'm not sure that's gonna be possible by the
time you get to kick off in two weeks.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
You had Trey Wisner run on you. What is Jeremiah
Love going to do to you? And not only that,
I mean we've seen Marcus Freeman, who I think right
now is one of the best coaches in all college football.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I would say top five is fair.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
And I mean you've seen that he is able to
put together solid defensive game plans and he's been doing
that for some time. You better believe that they watched
that Texas game and they said, oh, we get those
guys again.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
That's how we win. And how you win.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
You keep Marcel Reid in the pocket, you make him
throw the football because you take away Casey concepcion. What
does A and M's offense have.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Mario Craver Stilm and the ability to run the football
with guys like Lavian Moss fully back healthy, Amari Daniels
and Rubernowens okay, still was a very good offense.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
But where where was that last week?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I understand you know Le'Veon Moss wasn't there, But where
was that last week?
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Where was that in week two? I mean week three
when they traveled up to south in Indiana. It was
on the field, which is why Marsa Reid threw for
over four hundred yards, which is why he also had
two touchdown passes, and he also ran a touchdown including
the game.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Where did Nike borcature.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I'm just saying, I mean, I just think that A
and M could be in a really bad spot if
you again notre Dame, I don't like your chances, I mean,
anybody else if they somehow are able to I don't know,
move up to which I mean five and six seem
like they're locked in Ole miss who by the way,
was not penalized.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
The actually got rewarded. They moved up.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
So give a lot of crowd to the to the
committee for realizing Lane we don't need him. We're giving
the reward to the kids.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Well, I mean, and now apparently you know the talking
point is that Oh, it's all Charlie Weiss Junior. It's like,
not really, but I understand what you're saying with the
offensive continuity or Charlie wise this year.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Sure, but I.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Mean, don't you think that the guy that was in
the middle of the field probably had a lot of
influence on it.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I think the guy who left his dog in Oxford
probably doesn't everyone to speak about something that's going on
in Oxford right now.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
That would just be my da. He might be the
good guy, though, who knows.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
You know, he'll be the great guy in one story,
he'll be the villain in another story.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
That's just the nature of the business. And that's just
the nature of life.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
When it comes to Texas A and M and Notre
Dame playing against each other, which again Chawk has to
hold that's just priority number one is that it has.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
To stay this way.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
This will be an opportunity for Notre Dame fans to
finally say, you didn't just get lucky. We were able
to come on in there and set the tone, because
what's been the argument for Notre Dame throughout this entire
premise about the Texas A and.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
M loss, the two teams that were the best on
their schedule. They lost to No, No, No.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
It was a fourth down holding call against some defensive
linemen to where Nate Borkashier found his way to the
end zone and a miss pat if they don't miss
the pat and they don't miss the holding call on
the field, which again it's a holding call. But at
this point in the game, sorry, you should not be
giving up forty one points of Texas A and M.
I'm not gonna feel sorry for you. I'm just simply not.
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They're gonna be able to say we handle business. We
came into your house, we dominated, We trusted our run game,
which by the way, they were held to in that
matchup for one hundred and thirty five yards. They give
up two touchdowns, but they went through the year. In
that matchup, CJ. Carr had a day of like over
two hundred and ninety passing yards.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
So you add that in.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Now they get to go into Kylefield and they get
to say, we're the better team. We always were the
better team. You just got lucky against us in Week three.
That's what they can say.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
If that happens well, and then you get to the
Texas side of things, where you know like I said,
they move up to number thirteen. So I mean at
least there's a belief that there's a chance, there's there's
a slight chance for them, because remember the Group of
five champion gets in, So that's gonna be whoever wins
between Tulane and North Texas to be able to get in.
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And I mean, if I'm not mistaken, I think even
you and lv's got a shot, and James Madison both
have a shot. Okay, so you've got four teams there
vying for that. You're gonna have one of those teams.
Here's where things really get interesting and Froggy, you have
Duke win the ACC that's going to be a problem.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
That's why I so that you still have UNLV and
JMU have a shot because I can tell you right
now there's a no scenario, no way, no chance that
you will see an eight and five Duke team go
to the College football playoffs. So what you're gonna see
is now we're gonna see the committee unveil their rankings.
The number eleven seed is going to end up being
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a group of five school that's usually reminded the for
the number twelve seed. It's going to end up being
another group of five school in the twelve spot.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
So you're gonna have two group of five teams in.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Meanwhile, b YU eleven and one potentially eleven to two
if they were to lose in Arlington.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
They're out.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Vanderbilt, great season, the best season in program history. They're out, Oh, Miami,
who has a head to head win common opponent, Victory's
over Texas, Notre Dame, and and BYU they're out. At
Texas sitting with three wins in the top ten first time.
It's twenty nineteen, three horrendous losses. They're also out. But
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hal jam he's gotta be on in congratulations to future
you a UCLA head coach Bob Chess.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And the Dukes well, and you know the Texas and
Miami connection here, there is something on that and we
will get into that coming up next. But also too,
we will have Eric at Holmes. We're gonna get into
the Texans and the rest of the NFL. Eric ad
Hoolme NFL dot com. He's going to join us and
then we'll get the chiefs side. We'll go behind enemy
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lines here as so we get Carrington Harrison from ninety
six five up there in Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
He's going to join us too.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So we got all of that and you if you
want to get in sub one three two one two
five seven ninety against sub one three two one two
five seven ninety. In terms of the two the schools
that I mentioned, one coach fires a shot and the
other one returns fire. We will discuss right here as
it is the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole. Right
here Sports Talk seven ninety, Dan Matthews, Cole Thompson. This
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is the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole. A coach
firing is shot and the other one returning fire. Brad
wants to get us going this morning. Brad, good morning.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Hey, what's up guys. Look I was at the Notre
Dame game. I'm gonna tell you right now. Any and
Neil was dominating them in the first quarter. In second quarter,
I believe they were up twenty eight. You take the
punt block away, A and M might just start really
rolling that game. In this this drink of schedule. Who
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has Notre Dame played after two get two losses? You
put any SEC team in that in their schedulet they
do the same thing.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
They roll people.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Hold up, just I understand that they are. They are
starting to excel. And I understand AM has some running problems,
but I'm gonna tell you right now, if client comes
out and will run our PO, that's why we got
away from that. At Texas we stop running r PO.
And if we get a little avy on Moss Back
it could be at Kyle Field.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
I'll take it.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
I'll take a m all day long. That's just my point.
I mean, what do you think, guys in the head
to head with Miami. If the both committee is not
going to go with the head to head, then I
really don't know what to do anymore. This is getting ridiculous.
I think right now, when it all shakes out, A
and m might move up to six.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
I think that could happen.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Brod, I really do they listen to this, either move
up to six or drop to eight. I think it
could happen.
Speaker 8 (13:52):
Brown.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I think I'm being honest. I think you want to
stay at seven. I think I feel really good about
where you are at seven.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
That is my two said, yeah, yeah, I'm just saying
just everybody sitting there saying, yeah, we're scared, not we
or anybody, but that they're scared. That that's that's tough.
They could be out. I'm telling you guys, Notre Dame
hadn't played anybody either after after Day Now, I wouldn't
have it.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
No, no, no, he's right, they haven't. They played USC
that was it. That's who they played.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
It's not terrible.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Boys.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
State is a G five program. They're slightly better than
Arkis who's playing for a conference championship.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
At the G five level, who is having an opportunity
to go to the playoff over Texas, Vanderbilt and Utah.
You would take Texas, Vanderbilt or Utah over Boise State?
Speaker 8 (14:40):
Brown?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Am I talking crazy pills here? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I'm taking I'm taking crazy pills or you're taking or
you're taking those things over Boise State.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
If they were going to go to the playoff, Yeah
I would, I would.
Speaker 8 (14:55):
I right.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
I love that LA have a shot at Texas. Again,
don't get me wrong, U, but I just really feel
like that, Like I said, I no one repeat myself.
Notre Dame is yet to play anybody either. And I
know y'all sit there and read the Twitter feed, listen
to everything to Miami, the same common opponent rolled everybody.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
They did it, Yes they did, and we're actually gonna
get to that right now. Appreciate it, buddy.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Appreciate you. Brad Listen, I personally agree with him on
one thing.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
If Colin Klein can get back to running an RPO offense,
and they can actually run the RPO offense, and if
you're able to have a turnover prone game from marsl Reid,
and if you're able to have back Le'vian Moss, and
if you're able to stop all the pass rush, and
if you're able to get a case of concept you
on Sparisal Chee's re turn touchdown and you get a
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healthy Mario Krab and you get healthy this. Yeah, they
can easily beat Notre Dame. Can you catch my drift?
It's all the ands afterwards.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
That doesn't mean.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
By and I also just make this clear, and i'm's
not playing Notre Dame. They're not gonna play Notre Dame
because what's happening is if Alabama is to Alabama will
drop down to ten.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Here's my question, though, I mean, why weren't you able
to do that against Texas? I mean where you don't
even have Anthony Hill for the entire game. You didn't
have to Anthony Smith for the first half, and apparently
you couldn't do it.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Because if Alabama has a Georgia problem, Georgia has I
mean Georgia has an Alabama problem. Alabama has an Oklahoma problem.
Oklahoma has an Old Miss problem. Ole Miss has a
problem with keeping their head coaches around, and Texas has
a Texas A and M problem.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
That's just it. Listen.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Sometimes in life, Dan, there are just people that getting
your way, get under your skin, piss you the hell off,
and they drive you nuts no matter what they do.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
That is the Yankees in Texas A and M. Texas
regular the other way right, go ahead, but like, okay,
the Askers are the three seed. Yankees are the one seed.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I guarantee you ten times out of ten, the Askers
are gonna win that series, guarantee you. After seeing two
years in a row of this where Texas A and
M was supposed to have the bear defense, Texas A
and M was finding an idaddy On offense, Texas A
and M not able to do much when it comes
to the turnovers. They've been really good on that side
of the pall. Everything that worked in favor of Texas
A and M to get to that game at DKR
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undefeated came back and that was the reason they lost,
because Texas figured it out.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
All right, soon as I said shot, return fire, You've
got the shots, and then I've got the return fire.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Here's Steve Sarkshan making a claim on why Texas at
nine and three, nine and three, with losses to Georgia, Florida,
and Ohio State and overtime wins over Kentucky and Mississippi State,
belongs in.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
The playoff over another team.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
And he may or may not have mentioned who this
team is on what they did Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 9 (17:39):
He've played five top ten ranked teams and we've beaten
three of them. There's teams that are ranked in front
of us that haven't played any top ten ranked teams.
And so my point to everybody is, is this about
what your record is at the end, or is this
about beating quality teams and showing how good of a
team you really are by beating quality the teams on
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the field, Or is it don't play good teams, put
up a bunch of yards, put up a bunch of points,
and make it look good, you know, throw throw fade
route touchdowns. With thirty eight seconds to go, when you're
head thirty one to seven, so the score looks better.
So is the committee really watching the games or are
they just looking at a stat sheet at the end
of the game to say, oh, well they won by
this many points.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
They must have played really good. You know, here's a
thing that I go against.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
You know people, well, you know, just don't schedule the
game against Ohio State. I go the complete opposite way.
Win the game at Ohio State. I don't mind you
scheduling the games. And look, I mean, you take a
calculated risks, sometimes you take a calculated loss, and that's
what they did.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
But I mean it's it's.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Really where it all, you know, kind of you know,
falls into place. And even for the resume that you
laid out there, it's not exactly like they were impressive
this last month. They were they I mean, if you
were able to get this early on in the season,
or at least, you know, in the second month of
the season, and then you're having a different conversation right
now because you don't lose that game at Florida. But
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then here's the return fire is one of those programs
he mentioned Miami Mario Christopaul with Kyne's insight. They also
got to say, take a look at the fact of
a common opponent, seeing that we had an opportunity to
really dominate that opponent while that opponent dominated them. He
goes even further and says, Yeah, that's funny because we
had that one common opponent. Florida dominated Texas twenty nine
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to twenty one. The team that we convincingly beat twenty
six to seven. Was this the nineteen eighties. That settles
that debate.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
My entire premise here was STEVEE. Sarcusian is number one.
Commend you.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
I want to commence Stege Arkusian for one thing. He
is doing his job as a politician, promoting his team.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
That's what they head coach of Texas is Mac Brown
did it back in two thousand and eight when they
had the whole Oklahoma got in over them because of
their ranking and all of that kind of stuff. I mean,
you know, he did it. Jimbo did it a few
years ago when a had an opportunity. It's what you're
supposed to do as a head coach of a major program.
I respect that. Here's where I am going to retaliate
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just a little bit. Just let's have a hard heart
freak that could Steve Sarkasian. You talk about how the
committee's only paying attention to the scores of the games,
looking at the stats, sheep, and not actually watching the matchups. Okay,
so let's go back and talk about some of your wins,
shall we Not Not the one against you know, tex
say and m and not the one against you know,
another really high profile team Oklahoma.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
How about the Kentucky win? You ever hear about that
one dan I won sixteen thirteen overtime. Do you know
that Kentucky had nineteen more first downs in Texas? You
know they outgained them a one, I mean three ninety
five to one seventy nine. You know, they had more turnovers,
more penalties, they lost them on possession by nineteen minutes,
and they needed overtime to go up against a team
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that just made a firing of the head coach who
had been there for thirteen years. But hell, hell out,
let's just make sure that we're paying attention to the
wins and not the stats.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Let's go step further. Let's talk about the Missisippi State game.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Uh, you know you need that big eighteen point comeback
in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
You were out gained by fifteen yards.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
You lost the first down battle, you lost the third
down conversions, you lost time possession, You were the more
penalized team, and you needed an eighteen point comeback to
guarantee you got to win in overtime over a team
that finished five and seven, not going to a bowl game.
Mama Bela, let's go a step further, because you want
to talk about great wins the game against Vanderbilt Top
ten Vanderbilt, you want to go ahead and brow that people's.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Faces, Well, you were up by three.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Scores and then proceed to allow Vandy to have more
first downs than you, be better on third down than you,
be better on fourth down than you out gain you
four twenty three, two four twenty eight. You lost the
time of possession battle by three whole minutes.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
You were the more penalized team.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
They outrushed you, they outgained you in yards per pass attempt,
and you had the more turnovers in them.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
And you then said, oh.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Well, that's a quality win, and we allowed Vandy to
kind of push their way acond to.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Kind of strengthen our resume. So if you want to go.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Ahead and call it all these teams and say, oh, well,
you know this strength of your record kind of matters
at this point, and how you look in these matchups
and they're just looking at the statue. Well, I watched
all those games, including your pathetic performance against Kentucky, your
god awful performance against Mississippi State, and I watched this
diego Pavia Newly was able to complete the trifecta of
kicking your butt two.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
So come out here and say that all the time.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Yeah, I understand that you believe that you belong to
the playoff because you have three ranked wins. Brother, also
make sure that you were able to cover the spreading
your two games against teams that aren't going bullying.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Sorry, sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
If you want to play this game because you're not
going to the playoff and you never were going to
the playoff because you have three losses, start acting like Texas,
because acting like Texas means that you're supposed to schedule
games against Ohio State and Michigan because that's what good
teams do. Now, we're just gonna take away the Ohio
Staking because we got we got kicked out of the playoffs,
so we're going to take our ball and go home.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
No, I mean, I again, I think that you take
the calculated risk, and I mean, you know, like I said,
sometimes it comes back to by you.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Sometimes it comes.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Back to you know really you know, not necessarily dingian
in the long run. But I mean, I think in
this case, for everything that you just laid out there,
I mean, that's you know, a case in point why
they're not getting in. I mean, because this was a
team that for much of the season was not a
good football team. Like they weren't, and like we can't
have recency bias just to think that all of a
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sudden because they had a nice little finish to the season.
You know, you beat Vanderbilt, you beat A and M
at the end of the season. That's you know, it
kind of erases everything else that happened in the past.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
It doesn't, Dan, they had three great wins this year.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
They have three top ten wins. I'll die on that take.
They belong in that conversation.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
You know. South Carolina had five ranked wins last year,
including four in the month of four in the month
of November. Oh wait, they were left out of the
playoff for a team that they beat in the ACC
So spare me. That's the problem when you have a
twelve team playoff and you lose three games, there's not
enough seats at the table. You don't have enough seats
at the table. Unfortunately, even if you think you belong,
you quite literally don't because there's other teams out there.
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I were able to win by better margin of victory,
and they were able to accomplish their goals and follow
the criteria of making the playoffs. You were able to
win three really good games and win two crappy games
that you need over time to go ahead and got
as far.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
As I'm concerned, I mean, there's three there's three teams
that are vying for one spot, and then if BYU
is able to beat Texas Tech, which they won't, but
let's just say for the sake of argument, that they were,
then it would be two for one. And probably even
at that point, I think that probably that one gets
in before either of them. B Yu is the only
one that I would say is at the front of
the list right now. Miami is number two, and I
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still check Candle's business, then Miami probably gets in.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I still see a scenario where Miami does get in.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
It's a shot in the dark, but you're really going
to look at the college of Well playoff mee, and
you're going to say we're keeping out a power for
a conference. We're going to keep out a team that
was able to beat up on Notre Dame and have
two G five. There's a way to make this work.
I will explain very soon. Yeah, we'll get back into
that conversation.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
But we do want to hit up some Texans though,
because they made a move yesterday that I think signals
some certainty over there on at Kirby Drive. We will
talk about that and you can jump into its subone
three two one two five seven ninety. Again, it's Someone
three two one two five seven ninety. It is the
Morning Drive, Dan and Cole. Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
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Speaker 2 (25:31):
Let's talk some Texans right now. Someone three two one
two five seven ninety. They decided to tell Lake and
Tomlinson your services are no longer needed moving on. It
sounded like, at least from reports and Schefter had it
that they came to a decision which that probably it was, Well,
you're not gonna start anymore, all right, well, then can
you cut me loose? Sure, yeah, we can do that.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
He was worth four point two five million dollars.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
If you was to finish out his contract, he'll go
somewhere around three million dollars. A guy that is going
to be a healthy scratch every single game from here
on outs.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I mean, and that's the thing is, you know, you
lose the starting spot here because I mean, the offensive
line has pretty much gone Erstree at the left, and
you also have Titus Howard over there helping him out
the left guard.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
You got JK.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Andrews at ingram and then also Trent Brown who was
kind of in I guess Tomlinson's position where you brought
him in for a chance and then finally able to
find his way on the field. And at least this
has been a serviceable offensive line, not been great by
any means. But the good news is to me, the certainty,
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Now those are your five guys.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Well, here's the.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Thing, Dan, is that last season it was from offensive line,
cable offensive line on cable offensive line, Please shield your eyes,
offensive line, Holy crapper in the gutter, offensive line. It
can't get much worse offensive line. Oh wait, we're playing
against Kancy Chiefs giving up eight sacks the divisional round.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yes, it can't get worse offensive line. The Texans are
back to being capable.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
I'll take that.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I think everybody in the city after what we have
seen was c. J. Stroud's first two years, really last
season in twenty twenty four. But Chris draussays, the offensive
line coach, you will take a capable line. The starting
five they give you a capable line in order is
Ursery Howard, Andrews, Ingram Brown.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
That's just it. That's how it has to go. So
there was a.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Room for Tomlinson, and more specifically, there needs to be
a reason that he's not brought back to the team. Ever,
what's the reason. Okay, we're just gonna let you go
have fun in your future endeavors. They'll have the door
hitch on the way. I mean, I don't think it
was contentious like that. I think it was just, you know, hey,
you know no longer a spot, you're a veteran guy.
Do you want to go somewhere else?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah? Sure, yeah sure.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
But at the same time, I'm just saying that right now,
Juice Scruggs and Jarrett Parrison have a better shot of
playing than Lincoln Thomlinson for this roster.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Ever, again, even before the release.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Well, and that's the thing is usually on game days,
I mean, you're going you want to go one guy
that can play the interior. You want to go one
guy that you can put on the outside, which in
this case they usually go go three deep in terms
of the bench guys, because you do use Blake Fisher
and let's say that you get an injury to I
don't know, Trent Brown, all right, well then you just
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you know, you sub and Fisher right there.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
It's all good to go.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
But I mean, I think if nothing else, the other
part of the certainty that I really like is that
we don't have the temptation to roll guys anymore. I
will roll defensive lineman. You have to roll defensive line.
You have to this you know it completes. I mean,
just rotation that they had on the offensive line was
one of the dumbest things I think I'd ever seen
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in my life. And again, I mean, there's a reason
why I was bagging on Colepopovich in the early part
of the season. You figure this stuff out in the preseason. Man,
you figure this stuff out during training camp. Once you
get to the season, roll, go go with your guys.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
I will go step further and say, now I feel
really confident because where the New York Giants are, where
the Washing Commanders are, and where you are in the
draft with your first, second and round pickers. Remember you
have the Giants first third round pick, Washington second round pick.
You have a first round pick. Two of those picks
are going to be offensive lineman.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
I just say, I mean, for me, you know where
I was like, this guy's in over his head was
the very first game against the Rams where you move
Erseri from the left to the right, where it's just
like you.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Really don't know what you're doing, do you what Papovich? Yes, okay, yes,
and no. It was his first game as the full
offensive line coach. What the problem was that they went
out and they spent a lot of money on a
guy who could only play left tackle and was never
going to move to right tackle, because the smart thing
would have done is just moved Cam Robinson, who at
that point had become a swing tackle over to the
right side. But they didn't want to do that. Cam
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Robinson has been a left tackle his entire career, from
his time at Alabama to Jacksonville and Minnesota, he had
been a left tackle, so they said, we got to
play him.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
He's going to play left tackle.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
So the problem was is that Nick Cassario went out
and made a signing thinking that he was going to
have to play Cam Robinson as the apparent heir to.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Late Laraimy Tunsel for a year.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Oh no, Arianta Ersrie one practice in is already better
than him on the left side. We gotta play him
at left tackle. Oh crap, we don't have a starting
right guard, I mean right guard, so we got to
move now Titus Howard inside the right guard.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Hey, Cam Robinson, can you play right tackle? Uh?
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Okay, never, I already know the answer that We're gonna
go ahead and move Mary on te or sort of
that side.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
That's what happened.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Well, then you work him at that side, I mean,
that's just it. Whatever side you go in with with
a rookie tackle, that's where you go. But the problem
was better or worse, that's where that's where you go.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
But they worked on the left side, and then the
problem was they didn't worry about the situation coming on up.
Then at Ingram gets hurt and they had to move
Titus Howard into right guard.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I saw it happen in Atlanta with Jake Matthews.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
They had him working at the right side, and then
once you had an injury to their left tackle.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
It happened here in Houston.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
As a matter of fact, in the preseason game, they're like, hey,
come Onday, you're a left tackle, so get your mind
right and get ready for that right But that's in
the preseason. They're doing that. That's capable coaching.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
But what they should have done is they should have said, hey,
we know that ariontay Erstrie is going to be our
franchise left tackle, or at least he's gonna get a shot.
You're trying to make the roster still and have a
big time role for us. You're gonna learn how to
play right tackle. And they didn't want to do that
because they respected the fact that Cam Robinson was a
veteran and ariontay Erschie had yet to play a professional
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stat with where the moments minutes counted. That was it,
and it ended up biting them in the ass.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
It did.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
That was just the bottom line and guess what happened
the next week? Oh, we can't do this again, Ariante,
You're going back to left tackle.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Let's keep it going with the Texans conversation because they
seem like they're putting in the work.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Now hopefully it pays off down the road.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
We'll discuss what exactly we're talking about right here on
the Morning Drive and Stanning Cole Sports Talk seven to ninety.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Back to Cole as the Morning Drive Cruise is on.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Kim Bay was a great I think the best one
they've They've had some good ones. They've had some good ones.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Are they?
Speaker 4 (31:54):
I'm gonna die on this take, dude. I think the
two thousands had the best commercials of all time. Now,
they had some good ones the two thousands, e Tripoli.
Do you remember growing up and like seeing like stuff
on like Nickelodeon or cartoon networking like to be the
dumbest commercials that would make you belly laugh vividly? Do
you not remember like the Star Wars Commerce the Star
Wars commercials for like berries and cream?
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Do you remember that one? The little lottery who loves
berries and cream? Oh? My god, I could do a
whole segment on nineties and two thousands commercials. Sure the
audience would love that.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
I'm sure that they would seven one, seven ninety What
is your favorite nineties commercial? Two thousands commercial that made
you belly laugh? Because I got a ton of them.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Well, we're in twenty twenty five and today in twenty
twenty five, the no, not the cheese, It's commercial.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
I woke up feeling the cheesiest coach. I hate that.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
No, I love that commercial. You're not you're not going
to take me off of that one. I'm okay, we're
not taking you off of that one.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
I think that it needs to burn in the into
the seventh layer of hell at this point.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
One of my favorite ones they had was, you know
a few years ago during college football season, dose ekis
and at Steve Spurrier and he's.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Like, that's my beer. I remember that one.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Oh they're so good. He's getting carried off the field. Okay,
now remember I got one.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
I got my master with my with my bottle opener
on it. I thought that was bud Light. I think
it was Do Do Seki's.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
And then he points up to the coaches up there
and they've got the beer taps.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
He's like, that's my beer. Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
So speaking of beer taps, how many beers are you
gonna have on Sunday night when the Texans play the Chiefs.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
None?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Because I mean, it's a it's a show the next day.
If I drink, if I drink before a show, it's
it's it's grogginess the next day.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
I can't have that. That's sir enough.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, so I'll probably be doing it on college Football Saturday.
But anyway, the Texans gonna get back to work on
the practice field, getting ready for the Chiefs on Sunday.
Rockets home tonight for the Sacramento Kings. Six o'clock Rockets
launch pack coming your way. College Football playoff rankings A
and M at number seven, Texas at thirteen. You of
aged jumping back in at number twenty one, But we're
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talking Texans right now because as I mentioned, the future,
preparing it for now and right now doing that, or
it's probably the other way around, but you get the point.
Jayden Higgins all of a sudden becoming a massive part
of this offense where you've seen his targets go up
massively over the last few weeks, and funny enough, it's
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been wins in the last few weeks. Seven targets for
five catches against Jacksonville, seven for four against Tennessee, nine
for four against Buffalo, and then a perfect five for
five last weekend, where the Texans have looked at it,
and I mean, it's very easy to see who the
offensive targets are at this moment. It's Nico Collins number one,
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Dalton Schultz number two, and Jayden Higgins finding his way
at number three. But Higgins, now, I think at least
if nothing else, they're trying to signal to you, no,
that's our number two, that's our guy.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
They would like to, I think, get targets away from
Dalton Schultz. Not because of they don't think the Dalton
Schultz is a good open receiver. He's more of a
security blanket. If you want to take a shot downfield,
you want to get first downs, you want twelve, fifteen
to eighteen, you gotta find eighty one to twelve. That's
just kind of where you are. You get want six
or seven, You go eighty six across the middle of the field,
or you go out the backfield of what he marks,
and both they're fine. The other thing that's really important here,
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Dan is in the last five games you've either seen
Jaden Higgins finished with over forty receiving yards or a touchdown.
So again you're getting either the targets or you're getting
the points.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Well, I mean, I think if nothing else, you want
the certainty at this point.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
And it's not just this season.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
That's why I'm saying the future too, because next season,
where you know that you can count on Nico Collins,
that's not gonna be an issue. You want to be
able to count on Jayden and Higgins. And the other
part of this is that you would say, well, yeah,
Tank Dell comes back, that's the hope, because when Tank
Dell comes back, I don't know what Tank Dell is.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
No, tank Dell comes back, that's all you say. He
comes back.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
You're not saying, well, he comes back and he's the
same version. So no, he just comes back to the
football field.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
What I'll tell you right now, Dan, is the reason
that you want to get into more involved. What's been
the whole conversation this year offensive line? Offensive line? Offensive line?
Is offensive line good? Are they able to go and
protect CJ. Stroud? Well, you had the twenty fifth overall pick,
and Josh Simmons from Ohio State was available, and Josh
Connerley from Morgan was available, and you traded away to
go get let Jackson dart ruin his career up in
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New York. But then you had to pick at thirty
four and you said, okay, we need offensive line help.
Let's go draft a receiver. This is the receiver. So
your first overall pick you want to see have success.
And so far, for the most part in the Demico
I mean in the nic Cassio era, while he is
really good at finding day three selec I mean day
two selections, in round three, his first pick usually also
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seems to.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Hit well, and I mean he's hit.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
I think we could say that for the most part,
Urseri has has at least had a good start to
his career. Has he had rough moments of line to
take a while to I would say that probably the
picks that are always the riskiest to make our offensive
line and corner and namely left tackle offensive line, because
that's the if you're drafting high up, chances are that
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you're drafting a guy that's going to be your future
left tackle. You're not in a position at least the
Texans weren't to say, hey, let's go do the Quintin
Nelson thing. Let's get a really good guard. You just
weren't there. Now Now maybe this year they will be.
I could see it this year that you get to
the draft process and say that you know, even though
he doesn't do best player available, don't even know what
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that means, right, But I mean, maybe they do really
value a guy that can play offensive guard and that
you feel like, all right, that's our guy.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Just make sure that you draft the right one and
don't pass on an all Pro safety or an All
Pro center that now play in Baltimore and are a
big reason why they're going to be a playoff team
for you in a year out. But I mean, at
least what you now, I mean, you got the two
time All America for text saying them, so the all
grown talent guys.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Here's the good news in the immediate for you is
that you at least have options now because you've created it,
and you know, I'm taking Nico Collins out of this.
You've created it with Jayden Higgins, You've got it with
Dalton Schultz. You also have it to some degree with
Xavier Hutchinson. I mean, a guy that I think has
been incredibly serviceable for you and even at some points
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you know you can throw in Christian Kirk. I mean
he had a nice game against Buffalo. Not heard from
as much here in the last game, but still somebody
that you can count on, even out of the backfield.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I mean, here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
As much as they're using Woody Marx in the run game,
they're doing what I was like, you need to do
this with Woody Marx, and that is keep him in
that fifteen to twenty touch range because you feel like
if you get into that twenty five. We've even seen
him at periods of time leave games with some sort
of injury and luckily he's able to, you know, shake
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it out on the sidelines and work his way back
out there. But I think that even that probably scares
them off of overusing Woody Marks and especially using him
in the pass game.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
He's only had one time this year more than twenty
two targets in a game in some capacity, whether it
be as a receiving threat or as a rushing threat.
Last he had nineteen rushes, he had one catch and
one target, so twenty plays I agree with you. I
think that twenty is fine. I would probably say you
want to go to twenty two. Jalen Knowle's the one
that I still feel like I am the most confident
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in if you gave him the reps, he could blossom
into something really prominent. And maybe that was just my
bias coming on in because I really like this tape
coming out of Iowa State. I thought that Jayden Higginson's
some limitations, but I still am ready to see what
you're gonna get from fourteen outside of special teams, because
he's really good in that standpoint.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
And there's been moments this year. I mean, remember back in.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
The Seattle game, how many big explosive catches downfield we
saw Noel make place. And then we've seen it before
in the Jacksonville game, but we saw it in the
Denver game, like he's had his burst. I think it
just comes to a point of where we got to
see what the two Iowa state wide receivers and their
long lost brother who was two years older than them
can do if they don't have a Nico Collins out there.
Because you are right about one thing at this point
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in Nico Collins' career. We are just waiting for him
to have an injury in miss two or three games.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
That's getting a little bit of Astros because a move
made signals a clearly defined goal this offseason.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
We will discuss right here.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
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This is the Morning Drive with Dad and Cole.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Adding free agent Ryan Weiss, who had starred in the
KBO Korean Baseball Organization three sixteen era his last couple
of years there, and they add him along with other
moves that they've made this offseason, where I mean, we
already had a good idea coming into this how the
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Astros were going to go about the off season. As
Nate Pearson was the other guy that they added on
a one year deal, trying to convert him into a
starting pitcher. I mean, if nothing else, I would say
that the thing that Dana Brown gleaned the most from
the twenty twenty five season was we can't run out
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of pitching whatsoever at any time ever. If anything, we
need to try to have an embarrassment of riches, which
pitching is a lot like defensive lineman and football. You
can never have enough. There's not a single coach out
there that says, damn, I got too many defensive linemen.
What are we gonna do with all of these guys?
At least good ones? And you want to have as
many good pitchers as possible, and even some guys that
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you get to a point where are like, hey, you know,
either through a trade possibility or even guys that can
shuttle back and forth. That's what we want to have
and that's what this move was yesterday for Weiss. I mean,
it's very much a get him the spring training and
Joe A. Spotta likes to use the beginning of spring
training for that very thing of allow for guys to
be able to earn roles.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
And that's what you're going to try to do with
this guy.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
You're going to allow for him to try to earn
a role and maybe he can kind of slide into
that aj blue ball role that you had last year
where Caleb Ord kind of had it for a little bit,
where philm Aton for a time had it, and that's
the long relief guy. And every once in a while,
if you want to skip a start, maybe go bullpen game.
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He can be your opener, give you two or three
innings and you feel good with that. But that's probably
where this guy is going to is going to settle
in when it's all said and done with the shows.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Well, at least it just gives you options to feel
pretty confident in going into the offseason. You don't have
to overspend on certain pitchers or give up too much
when it comes to traits.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
So you know, you look at his numbers.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
When he was in the KBO League last season, he
had a two twenty one and ten record. He was
a three one six ERA and forty six starts, two
seven eighty RA last season in one hundred and seventy
innings pitch with Hanawa. So again, is it gonna translate,
I don't know. But the beauty about what I will
say with Dana Brown and what I will say about
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this Astros organization Number one, they do an exceptional job
at the Triple A, Double A level getting pitchers prepared
for the major leagues. Number two, they always feel like
that the arms are staying healthy in terms of wherever
you were able to move on up the competition's not
too heavy for you. And number three, diamond's in the
rough is just what you see Dana Brown, Do I mean,
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did anybody think that not only Caleb or how about
Steven Oker, like Steven Okert Scott Scott was being one
Chase Alexander even first standpoint for eighteen.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
Games, really good eighteen games.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
So it's like, I trust that there's enough on Ryan
wise that we saw from Dana Brown's perspective to where
he looked up and down and said, don't have your starter,
don't have your long term reliever. Don't know if you're
gonna be in Triple A, but at least I'm giving
myself options to where, hey, they want this for Pablo Lopez,
they want this Sandi al contram I don't want to
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give that up.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
I got this, kidd and set.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
I feel much better about what he's going to give
me for one year than what I'm going to lose
in the process to bring in a guy who am
paying a lot more money to Is he even gonna
pan on how for me?
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Well, and you know I was watching last night our
good buddy Josh La Desma Apollo Media talking about it.
He has a buddy that's been in the KBO and
he was like, hey, what do you know about this guy?
Ninety three to ninety six on the fastball, slider sweeper
guy also too, So I mean, somebody that fits right
in with what the Astros like to.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Have out of their pictures.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
But Chandler Rome, you know, throwing up the story about
this with Weiss saying the Astros are not done addressing
the rotation. But as mentioned here, multiple sources continue to
reiterate that acquiring a starter via trade is far more
likely than spending one on free agency. I think that
that's the other, you know, plan of this offseason is
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if you're thinking, like, for example, we just saw Dylan
sees sure, and I think that Astros fans across the board,
once they saw what Dylan signed for over the weekend,
they were like, yeah, you were never you were never
going to be in that market.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
You would be lucky to get a one year, thirty
million dollars. And that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
I mean, if you can get something done for about
three with maybe an option for a fourth or two
for a three. Would you still do thirty million? I
don't think that they're going to wade into that water
you have to take. You have to keep in mind
how the Astros structure their deals. Sure is that the
high money for the most part is in that twenty
to twenty five range, and a lot of that too.
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I mean, you know, just knowing where Dana came from
and knowing how that organization does their business is the
same way the Braves do their business. Is that Alex
Anthropolos even said it to us when I when I
was there, he even said it. He goes, if we
got about seven to eight guys earning twenty to twenty
five million, we feel like that is far more valuable
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than going and getting the thirty five forty million dollar
guy and then having to kind of supplement from there.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
But to me, what I look at and it's not
a shot again at Nash out of that. You know, Dana,
create your own legacy, create your own narrative to be
able to make it work. And let's just be real.
The Astros had a way of making it work before
with Jeff Luno. But James click Alexanthopolis has one title
for the Atlanta Braves, where they had to change a
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lot of things after the Biby Cox era, they regressed entirely,
and still so far they've been able to say they've
been to one World Series. The AS's gonnay, they've been
in multiple by spending that type of money. So I'm
not pushing back on it. What I'm pushing back on
is if it's a five million dollar disagreement on a
three year deal, because many people thought that we were
gonna see thirty million dollars for Dylancs no matter what.
But it'd be three years with the fourth year option
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like you said, says seven. If it's a five million
dollar difference, dude, I'm all fine with not paying Dylan
Cease that I am here. Here's where the flexibility I
think comes in. And that's why I think trade. You know,
and we've heard that controllable starter. Of course, who who
doesn't want a controllable starter? It's just like you know,
call we had last week of you know, hey, center
fielder hits twenty five home runs?
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Great, where do you find them?
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Because I think that all thirty teams would love to
have that guy they don't just grow. You're usually either
in that in that scenario you're going defense or you're
going offense and taking a little bit on the defensive end.
But in this case, I mean, if you are able
to get a controllable starter through the trade, well.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Then all of a sudden, maybe that does for.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
You up a little bit more to spend on, say
going after a prime outfield bat to be able to
stabilize that part of your team in field. It seems
like you're pretty locked up right now. And then catcher,
I guess it's just do you want Jiner Diaz for
your future or do you want to go elsewhere.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
Well, if you're trading away yanor Diaz, that means that
I got to bring in two catchers because of Walker
Yannix not gonna be ready week one. And at the
same time, you probably are not gonna be able to
trade for a catcher because if they know that you're
desperate for a catcher, which means they'll bend you over
barrel and ask for things that you can't ask that
you can't give up.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
So it's like with.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
The names you can go after for catcher, Victor Karattini
being one is the other one, Shona Hine, is that
one that you're okay with? And do you want them
to be a rotating option or do you want to
have one stable guy and then a dude that's filling
in every fourth day, every fifth day. And it can
be really good when it comes to lefties or a
certain position.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Patrick Charrecty, here's I mean again the Atlantic connection.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
What about Sean Murphy? Okay, I don't think they're gonna
trade him.
Speaker 4 (48:20):
That's the problem is that I get that you have
Drake Baldwin, and Drake Baldwin is the future of that
organization very clear as today? I just ie money, guy,
Do you want to pay that money though for a
dude who's losing a lot offensively over the last year
and a half, when you already have a guy that's
losing a lot offensively over the last year, that you
have him under roster control, team control, and more specifically
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on a much more cheaper contract with a new hitting
coach coming on in that maybe can work out the
kinks and get back.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Now, I'm not asking for that to happen, but I'm
just saying, you know, just the possible options that are
out there, because I do think that with Jiner. My
gut tells me that he is here because I think
that you want to see how does he work with Victoryriguez?
Is he able to work with him on a little
bit more zone discipline and able to get him back
to being the hitter that he is, Because we've seen
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when Yiner is Jiner. He's one of the best offensive
catchers in the game right and I think he's gotten
better defensively.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
So if that part of his game doesn't change, you're
looking at a top seven, top eight catcher in the
industry right now, who's on a very good team control contract.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
But I do think that you need to have an
insurance play in the place. Now.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
Is that insurance plan going to be Victor Karattini? Is
it gonna be Jonah Him? Is it gonna be you
go after like a guy such as Joey Bart Like?
Are those options that you can look into because you
need to have a secondary option that isn't also pushing
Yainu Diaz out the door entirely, but pushing him to
be better and have better played discipline.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
Part would be somebody to think about. Now.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
I mean, you know, right handed probably not going his direction,
but I mean, you know, you look at a guy
like Jonah Him, I mean, you're not gonna get a ton,
you know with the average with him, but the power
is there. Yeah, and obviously somebody too that if you
lose Keratini, maybe you lose a little bit of that part,
but you also gain a guy that I mean, look,
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if you feel like that, you don't like what you're
getting out of Jiner as a starting catcher, well then
you got a guy that's got plenty of it and
a World series ring.
Speaker 4 (50:15):
My big problem when it comes to Jonah Him is
that I think defensively he's fine. Fine is a good word.
I think offensively, swinging miss rate is just as bad
as Jiner's. He strikes out more, he's gonna get more
home runs. Okay, so the difference is is that Yiner
has to be in the six hole in the lineup
and Jonah High can be in the eight.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
Hole in the lineup.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
Then you're really not asking for much more other than
one less played appearance per game. But you're still gonna
get the strikeouts, You're still gonna get the swing and
miss rate. You're still not gonna get a lot of singles.
You're gonna get a lot of homers and extra base hits,
and that's it.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
I would say that in you know, I had somebody
else yesterday. Man, it's been quiet for the Astros this offseason.
I said, just wait till next weeks. That's when things
are gonna start to fire up, because you're gonna get
the league meetings happening. Well, like, it's been quiet, I
think on the majors it has been, But I mean
I think that it's also too where you know, again
you see see signing somewhere else. You see Devin Williams
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a couple of days ago with the Mets. So I mean,
at least some moves are starting to happen, but usually
that's when it really starts to get the snowball rolling.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
Do you think that the Astros will make a trade
first or a signing first for a position player?
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Trade would be the wish I think that they would have.
I think that if you get the trade, then the
options are open to you to say, all right, do
we have a little bit more to spend on an
outfield bat? Do we have a little bit more too,
I don't know, go out and get a starting pitcher
if that's what we want.
Speaker 4 (51:37):
To do to be able to add two guys this offseason.
I'm going to die on the zach Eflin to Houston train.
That is the one parameter I want Dana Brown to make.
I will buy a zach Eflin jersey the second that
he signs here, and I will wear it on the
day on this show that he comes into.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
Huge Well, I mean, and that's the thing is I
mean the controllable starter. I mean, if we're talking Sandy
al Contra, your guy Pablo Lopez, then the yeah, I
think that absolutely is a possibility for you, because then
at that point, you're not trying to find somebody that's
going to be front of the rotation guy. You're trying
to find somebody that's a four or five for you,
and you're looking for a one year contract.
Speaker 4 (52:11):
That is somebody who's been in the major's been in
high pressure situations that wants to reset their market.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
We've also been warned before too that for some of
you that were ready for, you know, the the Verlander
to Houston talk to stop, I mean it's kind of
slowed down a little bit.
Speaker 3 (52:26):
Haven't heard it much lately.
Speaker 4 (52:27):
Yeah, to me, it is everything with Verlanders slowed down
like not only his velocity, not only his strikeout rate,
not only his innings pitched. Everything is slowed down, including
the toxic him come back Houston or playing next season.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
Well, is somebody that could have been an Astro It
turns out would have fit in with us. After all.
We'll discuss that right here and let you hear exactly
who we're talking about here on the other side, as
it is the Morning Drive with Dan Matthews Cole Thompson
hanging out with you right here on a Wednesday, Sports
Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
Good Morning Drive with d and Cole.
Speaker 5 (53:00):
Sports Talk seven ninety, home of the Strolls, Rockets and
Houston's best sports talk.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
Talking Astros. A little bit more here someone three two
one two five seven ninety is the number two get in.
Sonny Gray was somebody that was a possibility for the
Astros this offseason, and of course traded from Saint Louis
to the Red Sox and of course you know after
a trade signing whatever you know it used to be.
(53:28):
And this is one of the good things that we
got out of COVID is you know how like the
a meeting that could have been an email and you know,
now it's a press conference, that could just be a zoom.
Now they pretty much just refer to I mean, if
it's if it's a huge name, like last off season
when the Astros signed Christian Walker, well then you know
you want to do the press conference. You want to
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do the grip and grin with you know, put the
jersey on over the over the shirt and tie and
you know, put the hat on, all that kind of stuff.
But the Red Sox decided to do a zoom was
Sunny Gray. He was asked about coming over to the
Red Sox, and let's just say that not only did
he endear himself to the fans there, but he also
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in the process took a massive shot at a hated
Astro's rival.
Speaker 7 (54:14):
Say, what did.
Speaker 10 (54:14):
Factor into my decision to come to Boston is it's
it's it feels good to me to go to a
police go to a place now where you know what,
it's easy to hate the Yankees right New York was
It just wasn't a good situation for me, wasn't a
great setup for me and my family. I never wanted
to go there in the first place.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
As it was traded from the A's to the Yankees,
and of course pitched against the Astros in the postseason
with the Yankees, but saying that once he had a
chance to get the hell out of there, he was like, Yeah, yeah,
the Bronx New York, it's not for me.
Speaker 3 (54:47):
Have you seen the rent prices there right now? I
would want it out of there too. Well.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
I mean, I think it's also that, I mean, you
play for the Yankees. It's it's kind of like being
a head coach at a major college football program. You're
always on, like you you cannot escape it no matter
what you do, and you know, if you're a head
coach in the SEC, there is no off season. And
I mean, I think that it's one of those that
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some can deal with it and some can't. He clearly
was one of those guys that just said, no, not
what I want to do. I want to pitch every
five days. I want to be part.
Speaker 3 (55:20):
Of a winner.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
I want to you know, be able to do all
of those different types of things, but just the constant
every day here, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 4 (55:26):
No, I would disagree in terms of where the Yankees
are in that sentiment, but I'd say, is I think
the Yankees and the Pittsburgh Steelers. They have a lot
of history, they have a lot of winning in the past.
They are basically just going through the most in motions
and wasting careers, and everyone is putting blame on them
because that's what happens. Man, the Pittsburgh Steelers have wasted careers,
even though that they are one of the most prolific
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organizations in the NFL. But TJ Watt, he's never won
in a Super Bowl title. You want to who else
was never gonna win a Super Bowl title? Antonio Brown?
You want to who ell see him win a super
Bowl title? Name Pittsburgh Steeler? Can't like Cam Hayward. He
was lucky enough to be on that first team that
was able to get there.
Speaker 3 (56:03):
Like that's it.
Speaker 4 (56:04):
That's the Yankees, and the Yankees have this such high
dictonomy expectation about being this this team of dominance and
overall we are the best because if we spend money
and you have one World Series title to show for
it and two World Series titles appearances since Brian Cassman
took on over, but we treat you like you're supposed
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to be something special because you have twenty seven rings
despite nearly half of your fan base not being able
to be alive to see any of them.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
Well, I mean it's also too, it's about the expectations
because for both organizations you mentioned, every single year, that's
the expectation is get there for the Steelers, bring home
the Lombardi, bring home the Commissioner's Trophy.
Speaker 4 (56:44):
How about we just go to let's actually win a
World Series game. How about we do that year? Well,
they're still there, they did a couple of years ago.
Well when they played in twenty twenty four, Yeah, they
went it was a five game series, and then they
found a way to proceed to blow it behind their
two best players that they spent a lot of money
on with Garrett Cole and Aaron Judge.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Congratulations Aaron Judge dropping the ball out there in center
field in the air, and then Garrett Garrett Garrett Cole
forgetting how to cover first base.
Speaker 4 (57:07):
Both of those, that one's way worse to me than
the drop ball, because if that's the bare minimum you
have to do as a picture, that's the bare man
Like you're you drop you drop a ball, or like
you die for a ball and it ends up being
a highlight grab or it gets a run in you
have to walk to first. You're right there at the
end of mind ending, and then you look at the
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who wasn't was it a Cody Bounder at that time
or was it?
Speaker 2 (57:32):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (57:32):
No, it's Anthony Rizzo.
Speaker 4 (57:33):
You look at Anthony Rizzo like he's a moron when
you're getting paid two hundred and fifty million dollars to
throw a baseball and cover a bag, brother, chill out
when it comes to this south.
Speaker 3 (57:46):
How could you expect me to cover first piece? I
don't know or any Why don't you tell me?
Speaker 7 (57:51):
No?
Speaker 3 (57:52):
It was my best at Kermit the Frog your crusts
to Kumy thief frog.
Speaker 4 (57:56):
Dear an O, I think mine was a little that
was way better mine.
Speaker 3 (58:02):
We need a ruling. Do you probably evedn't even know
who Kerma the Frog is.
Speaker 2 (58:06):
He probably doesn't. As a matter of fact, I worked
with somebody in the past. It's about Triple E's age,
and somebody said the Muppets, and he was like, oh,
what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (58:13):
It's like, what do you mean the fact that the
Muppets was supposed to be a dull cartoon? Well, I
mean it really was when you think about it.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
But getting getting back to this, I mean, here's the
thing though, Too is like I said, he would, he
would have fit right in here because I mean there's
no love lost in that clubhouse with the Yankees, especially Too,
I would say that it's more of their side, because
I'll give current astros and even ones that you know
have had connections here, you don't hear any you know,
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real shots taken at the Yankees or the Dodgers or
anybody else. It's more or less of like, hey, you
know what, let them talk. It's it's fine, but.
Speaker 4 (58:48):
I mean because we own you, so that's still still
still you know guys with this type of mindset.
Speaker 2 (58:54):
I don't mind it in the clubhouse where it's just like, yeah, hey,
you know what, they don't like us, we don't like
them either.
Speaker 4 (58:59):
With to me a Siven that it's like the scene
with Dom Draper's in the elevator talking to that one
Dweeve and he's like, I pity you.
Speaker 3 (59:05):
I don't think about you at all.
Speaker 4 (59:06):
Like that is literally the Yankees and the Dodgers, and
that is where it comes to the astros until you're
able to completely demoralize us, which you never will, which
is never going to happen, which is always going to
be why you are a sad sack organization that lives
out in the Bronx and a sad sack organization that
lives out in La La Land. Despite having two championships.
Until you beat the Astros, you won't earn my respect.
Speaker 3 (59:26):
Well, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (59:27):
No nobody gaslights on social media like Dodgers Twitter.
Speaker 4 (59:31):
I mean, especially to you start does a pretty dang
good job of playing in second.
Speaker 3 (59:34):
Half, but they're they're easy to ignore, like Dodgers Twitter.
Speaker 2 (59:38):
You know, you have Clayton kershaw Is seeing what he
said after the World Series, and then they're saying that
the Astros are the ones thinking about them. It's like, brother,
they're responding to you. There's a major difference here. Are
lobottomies still illegal in southern California? Is that what you
guys are telling me? Like, for God's sakes, are you
really this stupid?
Speaker 4 (59:56):
Yes, because they think that at some point that Mickey
Championship that they won in twenty twenty means that they
were finally able to break a streak. I'll give them
credit for the back to pack. I'm not I will
get no I will give you credit for the last two.
You're not getting credit for twenty twenty. You never played
a game with larger than sixteen thousand fans in there.
And let me also remind you you never played more
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than sixty games in a season.
Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
It's like the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Congratulations, you were able to go out and spend a
lot of money on Anthony Davis and then you'll waste
in Lebron's career for the rest of the time. But
how at least you were able to say in front
of Mickey Mouse, you won a championship.
Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
I remember you were talking about earlier those teams that
have the blind spots, that they just can't get past
those teams.
Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
The Dodgers are that way with the Astros too. We're
in their heads.
Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
The Yankees are that way with the Astros. And I
will die on this. Until the Yankees beat the Astros
in a seven game ALCS series to go to the championship,
they will not win a World Series title. I do
believe that there is something about intuition that says, if
you are a program, if you are a team that
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can't get over the hump until you're able to do
it at the highest level, guess what, you never will
win a championship. Guess you had that problem, Kirby Spartan,
Nick Saban. Then guess what happened? They won in the
national championship. But they played this weekend and he's won
and seven against them, So again.
Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Did them a lot of good after that because it
has not gone their way after it? For Saturday, I am,
I am, I'm ready for Saturday. All right, let's get
back to the Texans. Because a former defensive enforcer cannot
see enough good things about this group, We'll let you
hear from them as we continue here in the seven
o'clock HOURDS the morning Drive, Danny Cole Sports Talk seven
ninety Myers.
Speaker 5 (01:01:33):
Crushes it said goodbye.
Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Hey, Jake Myers.
Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
February is the cleanup, although isn't it now? Just it
is just today?
Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
No, there's still is. You have to there's a sign expiration.
I mean there's a signed deadline, which is February.
Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
That's so there you go, there you go. That's what
you got to see. It's always that is the one
thing that for you. I don't envy with and we're
gonna hear from the defensive enforcer talking up to the Texans.
For you, I don't envy is that if you're not
closely paying attention you miss some rule in college football
that you're like, oh yeah, hey, I didn't know about that.
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Then of course, you know, then you get some fan
base that's upset with you. We even paid attention to you.
I don't know, why are you.
Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
I have Kentucky fans in my comments section for saying
that they were the thirteenth ranked team in NIL when
it comes to the SEC when they're.
Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Actually the twelve rank team.
Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
All right, Well, I mean, like, I'm just saying everyone's
gonna be pissed off about something. I'm always pissed off
about the college football Playoffs selection committee. I'm pissed off
that we even have twelve teams to go to the
playoff to begin with. And there's idiots online that say, hey,
twenty four teams is exactly what we need to have.
Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Well, let's get to things that won't piss people off,
and that is former defensive enforcers like Chris Long. What
did you say on the green Lights podcast? I believe
it was the Tuesday podcast up day. They did not
say it on a hump day, so he said it's
on a Tuesday of course, you know, a recap of
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the previous weekend's action and talking up this Texans defense.
Needless to say, the tattooed won. Chris Long, he is
a fan.
Speaker 11 (01:03:12):
That defense is a superpower, That defense is the best
defense in the league. There is a level of violence, yes,
and speed on the field. They can play man coverage
and just play off like and and they break on
the ball and like they were hammering in cuts and
it's just there was a sequence in this game where
it went to too and he ran through the middle
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of the pocket and just put it dent in. I
think it was Jonathan Taylor's face mask the violence. And
then the next play, Will Anderson's big ass is the
floater standing over who was at the center, and he
Borlini front of the program and runs him over. The
violence with which they play and ultimately in this game,
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Daniel Jones, you know, inability to get off the spot.
Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
I think that's the beauty of this Texans defense too,
is that it's not incredibly exotic, it's not complicated whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
It's very much.
Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
A you have a defined role, you execute your defined role,
then it works. And if that means that you can
get after the quarterback, then go ahead and go. And
that's will Anderson Junior. That's Daniel Hunter for the most part.
You'll have some other guys that will jump in every
once in a while. And when you play against the
Buffalo Bills, you can have a lot of guys that
can jump in every once in a while, but they
don't get it turn to turnovers. But again, they do
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the basics incredibly well. And when you do the basics
incredibly well, then you have a chance to dominate, which
they have.
Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
You know what I can appreciate about what Chris Long said.
If you were to take out just the names and
just say linebacker, running back, Williamson's you and you're standing
over insert center here, pick a game. I don't know
which money's talking about. It's the same every single week.
That's all it is. Henry Tote and making a play
on that all Pro running back cool could be a backup.
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All he doesn't make place, all as he's all share here,
doesn't make place. All Neal Hunter does make place.
Speaker 7 (01:05:01):
All.
Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
What Anderson does is put the fear of God into
the eyes of an offensive lineman. All they do is
they make quarterbacks feel inferiorly small, and they're able to
force them to make desperation throws. And you got a
secondary downfield that's make it plays in the back end,
that's forcing turnovers, that's keeping wide receivers at bay. Like
everyone understands it. It's I think you said it that
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it's a superpower. The superpower of the Texans with how
bad this offense has been at times this year, is
they can mask up and trust that the defense is
going to bail them out of trouble every single Saturday.
There's not been one game this year that you cannot
tell me the Texans defense has not done enough to
guarantee that their team is still involved.
Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Well, I mean, I think in some cases, you know,
obviously the first three games the year, people would point
to the defense, But then it's like, what do you want?
Like seriously, like, like what do you want when your
offense can't score more than sixteen nineteen points in those games?
Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
You mean you have more three and outs than drives
to the red zone? Dah, I mean you have more
when you.
Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
Have more punch than you do drives plays being run
inside of your team's own territory.
Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Well, I mean that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Is you dance a high wire act as long as
they did in those games, well, eventually you're gonna fall off,
and they did it.
Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
Breaks for everyone, dude. It just happens in life in general.
Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
We all have that moment where our brains snap and
the reality sets on end.
Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
We're gonna say something that we regret.
Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
We're gonna make a mistake that ends up coming back
to be thrown to our face.
Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
And that's just what is human nature. What happened to
all these games?
Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
Fourth quarter came around one big play let up by
the Texans defense and Baker Mayfield, one big play let
up by CJ. Garner Johnson's incompetence not being able to
play in the right position, and it led to two touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
That was it. You take those away.
Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
Texas evens played lights out in both matchups against the
Floorida squads.
Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Your offense just sucked.
Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Well, and I think that you know we were talking
about Willie Anderson junior Daniel Hunter, I mean has been
outstanding this year in both of those guys inside the
top five for US sacks. So I mean, you're able
to see that they're getting after quarterbacks, but I think
that the undervalued part of their game is how good
they are on the run, because you will see a
lot of times that guys that are really good sack artists,
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you know they're off the edge.
Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
Oh you get the numbers off the edge. These are
guys that are willing to play the run. No, It's
why Houston is a top three run defense in the NFL.
It's really sad that this is going to be a
year where probably both to Neil Hunter and Will Anderson
have an opportunity to hit their totals in sacks, pressures,
tackles for loss and then just gonna lose out to
Miles scart who's having once again another historic here.
Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
I mean, he's got.
Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
Nineteen sacks, He's four away from the record. There's still
five games to go. He can have a game where
he does not get one sacond. As long as he
gets one in every single game, he will break Michael
Strahan's record.
Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
He's Michael straight hand. That's exactly where else going.
Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
Okay, can I ask you right now looking at where
the quarterback position is, knowing that Jonathan Taylor's starting to
slow on down. Is this the year that you offer
a defensive player the.
Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
V Now this is where also to Brett farv would
hope that the quarterback kind of does the far of
Peyton Manning thing because they would turtle they you know,
they saw somebody coming, they go down.
Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
Yeah, which is preservation. It's a smart thing to do.
Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
But now you've got Brett Farve out there saying, Hey,
if there's somebody that's like in that position, do that.
So then you know you can have Mark Gaston know
going after them at a trading card show and not me.
Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
I'm much sure of that. But no, I mean, like,
let's just be real for me for a second. This
has been a historic season for the former Texas A
and M product. He is about ready to make history
and his name will be synonymously linked with one of
the best pass rushers of the two thousands. There's not
a clear cut front runner at quarterback. There's not a
clear cup front runner at running back outside John the Taylor,
and it feels like it's almost unherded for running back.
Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
To get the award.
Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
You're not gonna give it to just some random dude
for having an okay season. If you make history, I
think that you belong to the MVP conversation right now.
My MVP vote with God to Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
Hard to argue. I mean, with the way that he's
played this year.
Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
And it's also I mean, you know, if you get
into the MVP conversation, it's not like there's anybody out there.
I mean usually a lot of people think it's a
quarterback award, but like who can you look at this
year and say, oh, yeah, no, absolutely, that's the guy Drake.
Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
May with a fourth place schedule in New England and
not a team that you could drust in the playoffs,
that's the guy.
Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Well, I mean, and I think that there's an argument
to be made there, but I mean again, it's just
kind of proving your point where I mean, he's outstanding,
he's having a great year.
Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
But in terms of just.
Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Like overall like importance and overall just value, I mean,
like we say most Valuable Player, it's hard to argue
with what you're throwing out there with Miles Garrett. I
just think that probably it does very much become a
team award, as most of these do.
Speaker 4 (01:09:44):
It's to me down to two players right now, Miles
Garrett and Matthew Stafford. If Stafford's able to get back
to the way that he played before the matchup against Carolina,
You want to give it to a quarterback, Give it
to the thirty seven year old that's probably going to
be retiring in two years. If not, give to the
defensive lineman who's been kicking ass.
Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
It's not gonna be Aaron Rogers.
Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
No, he's forty one. He ain't get any award. And
then you get you know, they signed Adam Thielen yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
What are you doing, guys? I just want to know
what the plan is giving themselves a chance?
Speaker 7 (01:10:11):
To me?
Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
So what keep to keep the record alive of hitting
above five hundred and losing in the first round of
the playoffs? Is that the chance that you're giving. I
don't think the formula has been working for fifteen years. Dan,
do you want to change it up? Play that same track?
It's like it's like in the episode of Hime at
Your Mother where they play five hundred miles in a
loop for thirty six hours, same thing.
Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
Let's just do the exact same thing.
Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
Ten and seven play in the wad guard around lose empatically.
Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
I don't know it sounds more painful watching that show
or listening to that song.
Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
That is the best show of all time of the
two thousand and ten, of all the sitcoms, it is.
Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
That's a stretch.
Speaker 10 (01:10:48):
No, it is.
Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
It is. No, it's a massive stretch. It is not
a stretch. What's your what's your favorite sitcom of the
twenty tens?
Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
I don't even think I even still watch sitcoms in
the twenty Tensatch The Office?
Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
Yes, and you then it would probably be The Office,
which I think is the most overrated show of all time.
Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
That's not true.
Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
It especially especially to once you get into the working world,
it hits even more so.
Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
We all know an Andy Bernard who is just going
to annoy the crap out of us, and we're just
gonna let him get away with it.
Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
No, the Rock and Robin Man, he you know, he
absolutely did. And calling Jim Tuna, Yeah, absolutely, Are you.
Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
One of the people who defends Andy Barnard?
Speaker 9 (01:11:22):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
I think that that was kind of the beginning of
the end. But the underrated part of it was Robert
California coming in. James Space is an elite actor. Jim,
would you like a nature metaphor or a sex metaphor
nature Please God, no, what if?
Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
What a show when.
Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
Michael hooked up with Pam's mom and her reaction still
is my favorite. It is probably the best reaction machine there.
Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
You go, yeah, a little, little by little, you're, you know,
little by little, you're convincing yourself that it was a
good show.
Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
I think is ten times better than it was. It
was the Mocker rare, rarely watched that one.
Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
All right, Uh, there's Desperate and then there is this
league we will discuss right here as we close out
the seven o'clock hour. On the Morning Drive, Dan and
Cole Sports Talk seven to ninety.
Speaker 5 (01:12:06):
They are, But on Morning Drive here's Dan Matthews and
Cole Thompson.
Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
Like, I'm genuinely asking, other than just the fact that
he played here and helped re resurrect the Rockets career,
and it's nothing more than just paying homage.
Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Why what's the downside? He's here for six months and
then he's gone.
Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
He's on the bench for six months. Fred van Vlietz back.
Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
He's on the bench for six months, and you're going
to have to get rid of somebody else, whether that
be JD. Davidson or who would have would the bot
one be Chase on Tate Both? Right now, we're averaging
more minutes, more points, more rebounds, more assists than him.
Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
I just don't see the downside.
Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
I just I think that you know, adding a guy
with a veteran presence in somebody that can be that
floor general for you, I mean not asking him to
play thirty five forty minutes a game, but I mean
I think that he's somebody that can give you good minutes.
Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
Well, let's see this season, and while he's averaging two
point nine points per game, he is averaged roughly around
thirteen minutes per night.
Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
Are you okay with that?
Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
Would you want more from a guy like Chris Paul
Because when you're taking those minutes and you want to
be a facilitator, you'd have to take minutes away from
Reed Shepherd or on Men Thompson.
Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
Now, when you say it that way with Shephard, I
mean that's that's one that I think will probably keep
it from happening for that very reason, because I mean,
at this point, you're willing to roll with him and
to allow him to grow into that role. So I mean, yeah,
I mean you put it that way, maybe you've convinced
me cool.
Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
He hasn't had a single game this month, I mean
this season, that he's shot more than he scored more
than nine points. I'm sorry, Jay, Shawn Ta can get
me nine points, it's gonna cost me less.
Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Aaron Holliday can get you that.
Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
Aaron Holliday is gonna get me fourteen minute points. All right, Fine,
I was wrong, Cole, I was wrong. Yeah, sorry, you
don't have to harangue the points. Heyst You and I
both had to work with a person who would never
admit that he was wrong until we finally had to
poke the bear.
Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
This is how I'm taught.
Speaker 4 (01:14:07):
I have to make sure I poke you until I
hear the words I'm wrong, You're right, man.
Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Then there'd be a lot of yelling and all of that.
I was just like, geez, man, it's not that serious.
Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
Charge, You're right, it's not that serious. Chris Pauls had
a hell of a career. The Rockets owe him a
debt of gradude for what he was able to accomplish.
I cannot wait to see where he signs in his
final season, as long as it's not in a Rockets uniform.
Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
Texan's back on the Praxe Field getting ready for the
Chiefs Sunday nights in at Kansas City College Football Playoff.
And one of the teams we've talked about, and we
talked about him earlier when it came to the Texas Longhorns,
was the Miami Hurricanes.
Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
And I mentioned a desperate league boy.
Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
You know, like now in the age of you know,
the Big ten network, it all started in the SEC network,
followed on in the ACC network. Yes, it's probably on
your TV package. It's there, and you've probably never watched
it unless you're like an SMU fan and you know,
you want to see where a game is and if
it's not on the CW and that's probably right there
on the ACC network and you're like, oh, hey, that's here.
Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
Okay, I mean I think so when you play against Baylor,
it's on TNT.
Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Remember that, guys, that's where you're at, right, So, I
mean the options are at plenty. Well, you know, the
ACC Network and these networks will use their conferences as
a chance to promote their propaganda.
Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Well, in this case, right here on.
Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Thursday, the ACC is making their case for the college
Football Playoff for Miami because starting at four am, you're
going to have number six Notre Dame at number ten Miami.
Then at nine am, same deal, twelve pm right there,
high noon, same deal, eleven o'clock that night, same game.
Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
So they're playing the Miami game against Notre Dame four times.
Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
It's even better on Friday because you get a four
straight times nine noon, five o'clock, eight o'clock. But then
here's where the trend changes. Remember that common opponent thing
Florida at number four Miami at eleven o'clock that night.
So the acc to say nothing else is well, I mean,
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there is that day off of work. You know, you've
got whatever show it is that used to have Mark
Packer on it, and I'm sure you know that's kind
of like it's supposed to be. Like their answer to
the Fine Bomb Show. It's like you're not beating Fine bombs.
So I love the effort, but it's it's not happening.
I'm in and everybody is still going to call into
Paul and you're still going to get those shows. So
(01:16:27):
just uh, grin and Barrett or enjoy it. Either one
is your choice, but in this case, right here again,
it is a hey, in case you forgot why our
team deserves a shot at the college football Playoff.
Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
Here you go in the ACC.
Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Look, this is strained behavior because they've been left out before.
Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
They're like, we can't be left out again. Can't do
this to us. Well, they can't be left out again.
Speaker 4 (01:16:50):
Which, by the way, if you want to watch all
those games, make sure that you have a package that
includes the ACC network for you to watch all those games.
Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
Like it's good.
Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
Well most of them have it, like you know, like
my my my TV package has it. And I mean
I've probably watched it a combined through throughout the life
of the network, probably about two times.
Speaker 4 (01:17:08):
I watch it every Saturday as part of a multi
screen view on YouTube TV. Like it's because I enjoy
watching one random game per Saturday.
Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
Why because you don't want to watch the Tom Brennaman
CW game where it's five and six NC State taking
on you know, two in nine Boston College.
Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Hey, that was a fantastic win for Dave Duran's group.
Well make sure maybe.
Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Make sure you stick around for the Gilmour girls afterwards.
Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
Long story short, what this comes back to is the
ACC knows that it cannot afford to have another team
miss the Playoff like it did with Florida State in
twenty twenty three, because of eventually what's gonna happen is
the SEC when the contract comes up in twenty thirty one,
I mean twenty thirty one.
Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
They're gonna look at Miami.
Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
They're gonna look at Florida State, they're gonna look at Clemson,
they're gonna look at UNC, and they're gonna say, you're
all profitable, come join our conference where we won't leave
you out.
Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
So they have to do it this way. Now here's
why we'll fight back, Dan.
Speaker 4 (01:17:58):
I believe the Playoff Committee is going to guarantee Miami
spot in the College Football Playoff. If one thing happens,
one thing, both JMU and the winner of the AAC
are in the college Football Playoff, they will move Notre
Dame back and they will move Miami in.
Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
So long as be why.
Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
You also lose, well, make sure you do that Otherwise,
as Marco Rubio said, just say Donald Trump will get
involved in the college football playoff. And I think we
can agree. Let's let's have the government just do government
things and have people who are in athletics somewhat know
what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (01:18:33):
Wait, you said Marco Rubio or Diego Pavia, because both
ended up calling on Donald Trump begging him for the
playoff to change. Did they save us Trump?
Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
Save us President Trump? For the I watched a lot
of college football.
Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
I can tell you there are certain teams that are
just getting railroaded, just absolutely taking advantage of I know
a little bit about it from my perspective, but not
as bad as they have it right now. All right,
there's your one for for for the week. And it's
been a while. I've I've owed you one for a while, Donnie.
Just please just just please put alla me, man, That's
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all I'm asking for. I will put them in. The
great people there. They love Trump, they really do. And
if if I have a chance to put Gaylen de
Bois team in the playoff, I absolutely will, you know,
I will.
Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
Can you put it in Houston to while we're at it.
Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
I can't do that when I'm sorry you number twenty one,
that's quite a leap to be able to try to
jump up there.
Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
I just I can't see it. I just got I can't.
Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
I apologize, all right, speaking of a team that maybe
doesn't have to make as quite a leap, but still
is going to try to make said leap. We will
discuss them as we get into the eight o'clock hour.
It is the Morning Drive with Danny Coles. Sports Talk
seven ninety.
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Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
This is the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole.
Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
The second to last college football playoff rankings are out
one through four. It's Ohio State one, Indiana two, Georgia three,
Texas Tech up to number four, and A and M
dropping the number seven. Texas in at number thirteen, U
of H jumping back in at twenty one seven one three, two,
one two five seven ninety is the number two.
Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Get in.
Speaker 5 (01:20:35):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
The A and M in Texas portion of this, I
mean A and M. They they are, They're squarely.
Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
In this thing.
Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
And you know, I think that there's there's zero, you know,
scenarios where they would find themselves doing anything other than
hosting a game there in Kyle Field, which I guess
you know again overall this season. I mean it's it's
the age old. You know, Hey, if I gave you
this area. Would you take it? But I think you
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know it's one of those where you can't tell them
how you got through the eleven and one because most
am fans I've brought this up before. I don't think
I've brought this up with you. The Room of truth,
you know, like some people would say truth serum, but
in this case, it's the Room of truth.
Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
It's like Wonder Woman's Last. So you can't lie.
Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
And you put Aggie fans in there and you say, hey,
eleven and one, Yeah, no, it's awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
Who'd we lose to Texas? I don't like that.
Speaker 4 (01:21:26):
No, they would very much say we were okay losing
that game to South Carolina and so going eleven to
one as long as.
Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
We'd beat Texas.
Speaker 4 (01:21:33):
There you go, tell me what you want. I mean, like, like, guys,
this is a safe place. Seven seven ninety, I'm not
going to judge you, but you're lying through your teeth
if you say that it did not bother you to
lose to Texas by double digits as a three and
a half point favorite in a year that you were
going to say you were the only undefeated team in
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the SEC. And on top of that, you would guarantee
your spot in Atlanta, and you probably would guarantee your
spot with the first round by tell me these things.
Tell me it doesn't bother you, because let's just call
it as is. Texas has been in the conference for
two years, even in the conference for fourteen. Texas has
beaten you two years. You're zero to two and have
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yet to go to a conference title game. Texas kept
you out of the conference title game. Texas has been
to a conference title game. You now have to host
a playoff game, and it at I mean at your home.
By the way, your reward could be you face off
against the number two team in the country, which very
well could be Georgia in the second round, all because
you lost to Texas. You lose to South Carolina, your
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host a playoff game.
Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
Still sorry, Like that's where it comes down to, guys,
don't don't And by.
Speaker 4 (01:22:40):
The way, it would be flipping on the same way
it was Texas fans, Texas was in the playoff, they're
eleven to one. You'd be pissed off if you lost
either to Oklahoma or or Texa and m is one of.
Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
Your lassess it's fun.
Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Like I don't get that sense from Texas fans, like
I think they hate both schools, but I think that
the hatred is more on the other side.
Speaker 4 (01:22:59):
I'll guarantee pushback on the Oklahoma standpoint of it, I
will say, I think if they pity Texas A and
M fans more than they hate Texas A and M fans,
they think if they don't belong in the same strass fares,
I just they hate Oklahoma fan.
Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Here's the thing though, too, in A and M fans,
I got your back on this one, is they're more
annoyed with A and M fans. But then I also
say to Texas fans too, I'm like, you know, really,
if you put a mirror in front of you, you're
both kind of the same people.
Speaker 4 (01:23:23):
But annoyingly we overrache you on everything that we do
and we have to give you so much pride, like
you're a vegan and you just let us know that
you're a Texas or a Texas A and M. Fair enough, Yes,
I have a problem with that, I really don't. I again,
I think that when you look at it from the
standpoint of Texas A and M, if you lost to
let's say Arkansas on the road, okay, you'll take that
as long as you beat Texas. I think if you're
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a Texas fan, you would be okay losing to Ohio State.
So long as you beat Oklahoma and Texas. I just
think that's the way it is now. I will say,
the true rivalry, in my humble opinion in this state
when it comes to longhorns, is Oklahoma because of what
because what the Red River Shootout means, what that matchup
is in the Cotton Bowl, and more specifically, when we
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got to the SEC and we were only guaranteed one
rival after this season before they moved to a three
team format.
Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
They chose Tech and they chose Oklahoma.
Speaker 4 (01:24:13):
They said, we want Oklahoma, and you were gonna have
LSU play against sexas A and.
Speaker 3 (01:24:17):
M every year.
Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
I just think that from the Texas fan perspective, as
the arrogance alone keeps them from you know, loathing another
fan base, like at least to you know, to the
level that you know Tech, you know Oklahoma hates them.
I mean, my god, I'm watching the Oklahoma and LSU
game this weekend and you still got Oklahoma fans doing
horns down and I'm like, you're you're in no stratosphere
(01:24:40):
playing them right now, like, why are you doing this
because of.
Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
Their always insitan in mind? And that's just it, and
everyone does it.
Speaker 4 (01:24:47):
I mean, like, let's be real, Texas came in with
the massive target on it's back in the SEC because
of the way that they were talking about how they
were going to run the conference when they were still
in the Big twelve. And so because of that, whenever
you got a win over a Texas team, you want
to put horns down what happened last season when you
faced off in the Red River shootout Oklahoma one, and
then this past season you beat Oklahoma. I think that's
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also what makes it such a unique rivalry is that
it doesn't always guarantee the better team where the better
records going to win this football game when it comes
to Texas and Texas A and M. You guys took
a fourteen year hiatus. So far it's two and on
in favor of the Longhorns.
Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
I mean, that's just it. These are facts that we're saying.
Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
And really, if you want to go back, it's three
and zero that has been lingering since twenty ten, which
is the last time that Texas A and M was
able to beat up on.
Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
Texas someone three two on two, five seven ninety is
the number to get in Texas As I mentioned in
at number thirteen, and right now they are behind BYU
and Miami. For really, I mean, the committee would tell
you these three teams have a chance to grab one spot.
The problem would be BYU, say, if they're able to
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beat Texas Tech. Because for Tech, I mean, obviously there
is still a motivation to win that game, because you
want to be able to at least move on to
the next round of the playoff. And I mean even
though they would still be hosting a game there in
Lubbock and you know it'd be a decided advantage from them,
I mean, you still want to be able to, you know,
give yourself one one less chance to trip up before
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getting to hopefully making a run to the championship.
Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
Well, the thing is is that you can't say to
the Big twelve, specifically Texas Tech, hey, you beat the
breaks off of BYU in the regular season. They came
into your house and you made it a one sided affair.
Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
It wasn't even remotely close.
Speaker 4 (01:26:34):
You handle business against everybody except Arizona State, who you
did not have either of your quarterbacks for really in
that game because well, Hamma got hurt and you have
been eleven to one. Thanks for playing, but now you're out.
If you were number four, like, you can't do that.
So the head to head at some point has to matter.
So BYU would just get on in, but Texas sect
should be penalized for it. The easy plan is this, though, Dan,
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we're arguing about Miami and we're arguing about Notre Dame.
The committee keeps saying that Notre Dame and what they
were able to accomplish despite losing a head to head
matchup against Miami is going to go to the playoff. Well,
BYU takes a spot kick Notre Dame out, but BYU in.
Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
Then say, see, the head to head didn't matter at
the end, all be all.
Speaker 4 (01:27:14):
Guess what, both of you were terrible, both the two losses,
both of you going home well.
Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
And that is the thing too with Texas, I mean,
the thing holding over them right now is people focus
on the well, you know, just don't play Ohio State
and then you're in sure, I guess, but I mean
it is also too, as I've said, I go the
complete opposite way with it. No play Ohio State. But
then beat Ohio State. Well, we were on the road.
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So you've had teams that have gone on the road
before and one and been able to even have that
as even more of a feather in their cap.
Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
We'll stopping you, can I say that right now.
Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
I'm very disappointed in Steve Sarcasian in a lot of ways,
and I'm very disapported in Texas and Texas fans because
of last I checked Dan Tay to be that guy.
Your Texas act like it you're supposed to be able
to beat the tyrants. You talk a big game that
you belong in the stratosphere alongside Alibama.
Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
Beat the tyrants.
Speaker 4 (01:28:06):
Beat the tyrants, they are the tyrants. They then beat
Ohio State. But then don't tell me in one breath, oh,
we're going to take away these games because of we're
gonna be penalized for losing these matchups and we're just
gonna do it like Indiana does.
Speaker 6 (01:28:20):
Brother.
Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
Let me make something abundantly clear.
Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
We still last season argue to no end that Indiana
at eleven to one did not belong in the College
Football Playoff because of who they didn't play. Do you
want me to compare you a program that has resources
out the wazoo. Back to back top five recruiting classes,
always kills in the transfer portal, massive nil funds, you
(01:28:44):
can pay for whoever you want to come to the program.
You really want me to compare you to Indiana, Fine,
go undefeated then and I'll have a conversation if you're
going to make the playoffro And now.
Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
Here's a good and the bad news for it. Though.
Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
The good news is this thing is going to expand
because it's and it's probably even going to expand as
early as this year, because I mean, they've already pushed
back the deadline that was supposed to be a couple
of days ago for a chance to alert the TV
networks that hey, we're going to expand.
Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
So that tells me they're they're doing that.
Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
So in that case, the argument about well don't play
Ohio State, that goes out the window because Texas would
be in right now. They'd have no problem. It's fine.
So that's how they're going to handle that. And I mean,
you know, just the bad news is, well, at least
in the early going, in the immediate it's not gonna
matter for you.
Speaker 4 (01:29:29):
But like for me, the problem is is that we're
here in Texas. Fans complain about losing three games, one
of which was by twenty five points on the road
to Georgia, one of which you were outgained out an
out time of possession by eleven mins to a four
win Florida team, and then Ohio State, and you have
three top ten wins.
Speaker 3 (01:29:47):
You want to what that shows me?
Speaker 4 (01:29:48):
Dan, in a bad year, in your eyes, you still
were one of the better teams in college football. So
fix a few things in the offseason, tit in a
few bolts, change up your little route pathway. Guess what
you get be in the College Fotball playoff next year.
You want to who's never gonna have a season like
this again? Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt going on a ten to two
run with a quarterback that basically is playing off of
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percocets and sheer will and determination to live up to
every promise they said. I'm busting with the boys. That
team is not gonna be back here next year. And
you know what their award is for playing an SEC
schedule and for handling business having a top twenty offense.
Speaker 3 (01:30:25):
Enjoy the relyat Quest.
Speaker 4 (01:30:26):
Bowl despite having a ten to two record, But how
that nine to three team for Texas, who's gonna be
here next year because they'll pay for themselves in the
offseason with nil and recruiting, and they'll kill it when
it comes to transfer portal. All these things that we
know that they're gonna do, because that's what Steve Sarkisian
in Texas does. They'll get this opportunity again. You fumble
the bag against two really solid teams and you drop
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in against a really crappy one.
Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
Well it on you, guys.
Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
Then you know, Diego Pavia could possibly win his lawsuit
and come back again next year. And then come back
you see his brother talking trash to players on the
field and getting arrested again.
Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
It happens. It's fine.
Speaker 4 (01:30:59):
I thought it was so funny that they said, Hey,
not the mom this time, Let's go to brother if
they play in the Relycris because you know he's gonna
play in that game. Now, we gotta go find his dad.
His dad's got to make an impact. He's got making
appearance some here.
Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
We're in here. We got to complete the set with
all the shenanigans in the pavias.
Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
It's one of the greatest sports on the planet. It
is seriously, it's a never a dull moment with the
Heim trophy too.
Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
They probably will. I'm so excited for it.
Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
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Speaker 5 (01:32:35):
Back to the Morning Drive, here's Dan Matthews and Cole Thompson.
Speaker 4 (01:32:42):
Two year deal with an option after twenty twenty six
for two point six million dollars. As reporter first by
Brian mctagger. Hi, buddy, I would say you add today. Yeah, No, stop,
I'm never gonna stop that.
Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
Nope, you open. Okay, this is the problem, dude, y'all
understanding me.
Speaker 4 (01:32:57):
You gave me something, You gave me a little room
to be able to poke the bear.
Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
Now it's a part of the show. No, it's a
war of attrition here, and it's a war that I'm
I'm prepared to win. I'm excited. I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (01:33:08):
Let's let's let's see who comes out on tom and
you're gonna accept this to happen, or if we're just
gonna have to go roll with the punches.
Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
Can't be.
Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
The guy's not willing to quit, and uh, I'm definitely
not willing to quit. But anyway, continue in the college
football conversation. You appreciate you handling that. By the way,
I did not expect my my breakfast to take as
long as it did. But that's okay. I'm sorry. It's fun.
Speaker 3 (01:33:28):
It's why we have two of us, guys. That's true.
That's true. You need to take a breather, go outside
and make a phone call. It's all good. I got
your fit. I got you for twelve minutes. I can
do that.
Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
I always love like, you know some of those shows
like where it's just like you know your co host,
it's like.
Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
Where'd you go?
Speaker 9 (01:33:41):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
Oh, you know? I had this. I'm like, you do
realize you have a show. I take it. I took
a nap. You were locked in. It's all good.
Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
No, all good, but real quick before we get to
Jim and Brandon, see you guys right there? Someone three
two one, two five seven ninety uh Lane Kiffin might
be the good guy after all.
Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
I'll listen to it. What's the story behind it?
Speaker 5 (01:34:05):
All?
Speaker 8 (01:34:05):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
So Charlie Wise Junior, who was the primary play caller
and offensive coordinator at Ole Miss. He was one of
the ones who got on the plane and one of
the ones that had the many who have no idea
what it's like to be touched by a woman. That
we're out at the airport flipping off and yelling obscenities
at people as they boarded the plane to leave from
(01:34:27):
Oxford to go to No, it's true, if you, if you,
if you seriously are taking the time to do that,
you have nothing else going on in your life.
Speaker 4 (01:34:34):
No, they've just never been offered ninety million dollars to
leave the state of Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (01:34:37):
There you go. That's better than saying never touch a woman.
Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
Can trust me, It's you know, the best part of
Mississippi is going in and leaving.
Speaker 3 (01:34:45):
I do like Oxford, Tho I think it's great out there.
That's fine.
Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
It's like for everybody that's like, oh, it's such a
great town, all this square, I'm like, I can name
like five or six different college towns that I'd much
rather be in. Really, yes, But in the case Kiffen
putting out the statement yesterday, Charlie Weiss, he has signed
with us. He is going to be the offensive coordinator
here at LSU. But you know what, we want the
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best for this program. And he's and he put out
the statement with the premise that this was to the
committee of Hey, don't ding our guys because we're still
going to have a pretty full coaching staff there, and
you're gonna have both the offensive and defensive play callers
still in the fold. So don't ding them because they're
(01:35:32):
still going to have an opportunity to be the team
that they've been.
Speaker 4 (01:35:34):
So yes, I will say good on Lane to allow
his former coaches that left they want to return to
Ole Miss and finish up the season.
Speaker 3 (01:35:44):
I understand that is a great thing.
Speaker 4 (01:35:46):
College football playf Committee's probably saw that and said we're
not going to ding him.
Speaker 3 (01:35:49):
Instead, we're going to move them up a spot.
Speaker 4 (01:35:51):
Now they're at the sixth seed versus being in the
seventh seed, So I can respect that. Did you also
see the messaging that came away from two of the
team captains on how they felt about Lane's departure.
Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
I think a lot of that is, you know, prisoner
of the moment. I really do, and I get it.
But I mean it's also though too. It's just like
you're kind of allowing the emotions to dictate your own
and you're feeding into it just the way that I
read it.
Speaker 3 (01:36:16):
So for those of you that don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:36:17):
Surataine Perkins, who's been one of the best offenders for
Ole Miss and Bryson Sanders, is starting center for the Rebels.
Both decided to go to Twitter last night, and several
other players as while either by retweeting it or giving
their own opinion what they quote. Tweeted Lane Kiffn's comments
despite the team asking me to keep coaching. I think
everyone there in the room would disagree, said Sanders. Suratain Perkins,
(01:36:40):
that was not the message you said in the meeting room.
Everybody was there and can vouch for it. So at
the same time, yes, Lange Giffen is being respected by
giving back Charlie Wise for this playoff run. Players made
it clear, dude, you're bailing on us. You're leaving us
right before you decide, I mean right before we have
our biggest run in program history. You made it clear
(01:37:03):
that you do not believe that we can win this consistently.
You made your bed, go lie in it, get on
out of here, and here's why we'll fight back on
the stand. If it was any school other than the
one that you were rooting for, the one that you
have allegiance to, I think you would feel the.
Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
Same way as the players do.
Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
No, I mean, and I get it from that perspective.
I mean, because it's one of those like anybody but them.
That's another thing that's that's you know, going into this.
But this is also a lesson for you know, these
young guys, is it's gonna come a time in your
life where you're gonna have to make a decision that
adversely affects somebody else's now you know, somebody else's interest,
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and when you have to do that, then be prepared
to deal with what comes with it too, because I mean,
you know, Lane's seen it and he's no stranger to it,
he's been through it before. But I mean that's just
that's again why situations like this, I don't do a
ton of moral hand ringing, because it's one of those
where it's like, Okay, maybe you're not gonna be as
high of a profile making a decision like this, but
(01:38:05):
you will have to make a decision like this, and
when you do, then you be prepared to deal with
what comes your way.
Speaker 3 (01:38:10):
And most people I don't think can.
Speaker 4 (01:38:11):
Right, and Lane had to deal with what was coming
his way, which was I believe that this team is
only good enough to win a national title, maybe this year,
maybe never again. So I'm gonna go to LSU, which
means I'm not gonna coach this, Seamon.
Speaker 3 (01:38:22):
I'm just like just the number one thing in this business.
Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
And again it's it's something that you know I've talked
about with you before. I don't tell how, I don't
tell fans how to fan. You want to fan, whatever way,
Sure do it. That's that's that's your business. You pay
the money, you give your time, you do it all.
The one thing for people and colleagues in our business
that I'm really just honestly sick and tired of is
(01:38:46):
faux outrage and and just being constantly surprised by things
Like you've worked in this business for as long as
you have, how are you surprised by anything in this
industry anymore?
Speaker 7 (01:38:56):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
And if you are, then you're being intentionally dumb. But
to me, that's not what this comes down to.
Speaker 4 (01:39:01):
If you ask me right now, Lane Kiffin, actually sticking
around for ole Miss and turning down LSU, that would
surprise me because of you and I both know what
is the better job. You and I both know where
there's more consistency to win. You and I both know
what is supposed to be when it comes to the
pecking order where Ole Miss rinks and where LSU ranks.
But if you're also telling me that Lane Kiffin is
(01:39:22):
supposed to stick around with a rival of a school
after leading them on their best run and saying next season,
I'm taking.
Speaker 3 (01:39:29):
You, you, you, you, and.
Speaker 4 (01:39:31):
These coaches with me over to the opposing sideline. I
want to coach my team in the playoff. You're also
out of your mind. It was malpractice and it was
moronic to think for one second that Lane was ever
going to be sipping wearing an Ole Miss Rebel shirt
again while being named the head coach of the Alshie
Tigers the second that he.
Speaker 3 (01:39:47):
Made that bed done.
Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
Then you also have to live in the fact that
you were never coaching this team in the playoff, and.
Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
The ad made it abundantly clear. Seven one three two
one two five seven ninety. Jim on the south Side
wants to weigh in.
Speaker 12 (01:39:58):
Jim, good morning, good morning, thanks for taking our call.
I love y'all show.
Speaker 7 (01:40:04):
By the way, I love you know.
Speaker 12 (01:40:05):
It's a really good just a couple of things. One
I wanted to talk about the a and M Texas
rivalry for just a second. I went to A and
M in the early eighties. It was the.
Speaker 7 (01:40:17):
Mott maniacal time.
Speaker 12 (01:40:19):
Everybody you know hated Texas, you know, and you know,
just just crazy, right. I have a son, a niece,
a couple of friends, kids that went to A and
M here in the last ten years or so. They
they just don't really care that much about this rivalry.
I think, you know, they've they uh, these young kids
(01:40:41):
feel like I think it's being forced on them by
the old people. They're trying to get them to really
get worked up about it. None of the people that
I know, their kids, you know, really care.
Speaker 7 (01:40:52):
I think they have.
Speaker 12 (01:40:53):
They had a pretty good rivalry building with LSU. Those
kids liked it.
Speaker 7 (01:40:57):
There was a lot of fun.
Speaker 12 (01:40:59):
But Texas thing, you know, I think it's been too
long or whatever. But they're just not into it that
much from from what I've seen what I've talked to
them about. Anyway, That's that's the one they wanted to say.
The second thing, real quick is I saw the Texans
game this week. It was it was good, But I
(01:41:19):
hate to pass over the fact that I still think
we have an offensive coordinator problem. Watching them run that
ball into the line two times and get stuffed on
that play. I thought it was ridiculous. And you know,
I hate to gloss over that just because they want anyway.
That's that's all I wanted to say. And I appreciate
(01:41:40):
you taking my call.
Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
Hey appreciate Jim Storry with the first thing. I mean,
Jim's probably right. Honestly, when you think about it is
there's an entire generation of kids that either go to
Texas or texasing them and they're just kind of like, Okay,
I mean, you know you hear stories about it, but
until these last couple of years. I mean, you know,
the fight songs have both teams mentioned in it and
(01:42:02):
all of that. But I mean you probably do have
kids that you know they I mean here over the
last ten years that went there, and like, you know,
for Texas, it's not sou like that's that's all we
care about the most.
Speaker 3 (01:42:14):
To me, it's been ou for a while.
Speaker 4 (01:42:15):
It's it's been on you since I would say I
was going into high school, it felt like it was
that way, and when I was in high schoo when
I was still in high school, it was Texas, Texas
A and m Missouri and Oklahoma and the Big twelve,
and it feels like that again Missouri, they're like the
Texas A and M version for Oklahoma, like, yeah, you
talk about it.
Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
They ain't no love lost there.
Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
Here's what's going to change it from the A and
M side. You got to start winning these games. You
start winning it, then that is going to rejuvenate the rivalry.
But I mean, the fact of the matter is the
last two years Texas has won both of them and
it's one sided. So I mean, you know, I think
that probably that does kind of factor in a little bit.
I mean I know that I was, you know, you know,
(01:42:56):
calling out Aggie fans earlier for now you know, eleven
and one.
Speaker 3 (01:43:00):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
I mean Jim's point, I'm like, you know what, he
might be right, he I mean, some people might be
telling the truth when they're like, you know, it's not
that it's not that big of a deal because you
don't know anything else true.
Speaker 4 (01:43:13):
But at the same time, for me, at least, it's
also got to be competitive games because let's it's called
as is. Second half of both games last season Kyle
Field and this season at DKR it was all Texas,
So you got to at least make it a battle
in those games consistently. If you win one, okay, cool,
you win one game against Texas, but in the next
(01:43:34):
three years you get molliwot by the Longhorns.
Speaker 3 (01:43:36):
You got to make it a game at least.
Speaker 2 (01:43:38):
Let's get into the Texans conversation someeone three, two, one,
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All right, see we're we're We're not. No, it's not
better known as that at all. Seven one three two
one two five seven ninety. Uh Anthony, one of our
listeners brought this up. And you know we were talking
earlier about uh Lake and Tomlinson and we can still
talk about, you know, the Texan's offensive line. Uh here
before we get to Eric at home on at nine o'clock.
(01:45:57):
But I thought this was a good topic to to
bring up, So kudos to you, Anthony. He threw out, curious,
if you guys think that Matt Burke can be getting
some head coaching talk soon, would hate to see him go.
I responded, saying, I don't see it. Defensive guys are
usually way down the list, and I think that teams
are still convinced that this is demko. So I said
that you know them being in this situation a couple
(01:46:18):
of years ago because Bobby Slowick the first year the
offense looked amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:46:23):
I mean c J.
Speaker 2 (01:46:24):
Stroud, we were we were having dreams of grandeur at
that time of like man c J. Stroud, like he's
gonna be up there with like Patrick Mahomes and like
Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson and like all these guys
like that's we got that guy here, like that's that's awesome.
And then the following year it was an offensive coordinator
who could not be able to work against twists and
(01:46:44):
stunts and really any type of adjustments whatsoever. The league
caught up to him, and that's why he's not here anymore.
I just I think you know that it's twofold with Burke.
Speaker 3 (01:46:52):
Number one.
Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
You know, I think that one of the things that
does help you get some run as a head coach,
you know, as coordinator as a head coach, is the
wrestling thing. You're good on the mic. He's not good
on the mic. When you talk to Matt Burke. It
is very vanilla. Just you're not getting anything out of him.
Like for example, Dan Quinn when he got run when
(01:47:16):
he was the defensive coordinator in Seattle, it was exactly
that great guy.
Speaker 3 (01:47:21):
Players love him. He's fantastic with the media.
Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
That's why I think that, especially for defensive guys, that
helps you out. And I mean for Burke, I just
again get back to I just don't think that the
league is convinced that this is all him. I know
that they handed over play calling, and I know that
Demko even before that was like, no, he's very involved
all of those ships.
Speaker 3 (01:47:42):
I get all of that.
Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
I just think with Burke for that second reason alone,
it's going to have to be another proven year, which
for the Texans is good news because you still get
those guys teaming up with this defense. There's no reason
to believe that this is going anywhere anytime soon.
Speaker 4 (01:47:57):
Well, think about a guy like Vance Joseph, who has
been a head coach once before in Denver, then decided, Hey,
I want sloppy seconds, so ill just be the defense
coordinator out in Denver this time around. He's called three
straight years of elite defensive play and every time he
has been passed on up. Think about lou Or Moro.
Remember him when he was in Cincinnati. This was a
guy who at one point was a reason that the
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Bengals were in the playoff conversation year in and year out,
and he was a good selling point to the Cincinnati
actually being in the super Bowl the one year they went.
He was up with the Arizona Cardinal's job, and ever
since Jonathan Gannon got hired, he was passed on by.
That's the thing with defensive coordinators. So many people talk
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about this all the time, and it drives me crazy.
You need to hire the best coach for your team.
You need to hire what type of identity you want.
And sometimes it's easier just to go with the offensive
guy because then you can blame him for if the
quarterback sucks, because it's the most important position. You can
blame him for the offensive line taking a step back.
You can blame him for, you know, not drafting wide receivers. Well,
but I look for culture. Standpoint. Nine times out of ten,
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you're getting a better version of a team that you
can trust has that physicality from either an assistant to
the head coach or a defensive minded coach. Because look
at right now some of the best names in the industry.
I'll get you Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell was an offensive
minded coach, but he was the assistant towards He was
the assistant to just Sean Payton, change the culture, Jamika Ryans,
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change the culture. Something about that just says to me,
that's what you needs. So Matt Burg is a dude
that you think you want to run through the wall for,
that's you should hire. But gms and owners don't want
to look at that. They want to say offensive innovation,
offensive tempo, offensive consistency, gotta make the higher.
Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
Here's the other thing, though too, that I think could
work in Burke's favor eventually.
Speaker 3 (01:49:47):
Again I don't think it's going to be this year.
Speaker 2 (01:49:50):
Is NFL teams follow trends and in a lot of
times there are no original thoughts where they just believe,
you know, oh, okay, well you know this team's got
that guy.
Speaker 3 (01:50:00):
Can find our guy like right now.
Speaker 2 (01:50:02):
You know, for the longest time it was, hey, you know,
Chase Belichick, find the next Belichick. There there's another Belichick
on that staff, and just continuously, time and time again,
you found out, no, there isn't one. Even if they
come here and try to act like they're Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (01:50:17):
They're really not.
Speaker 2 (01:50:19):
And you know they may or may not have a
buttch in. But that's that's the story for another time.
Speaker 4 (01:50:23):
But you also have to make sure that you don't
have the Patriot way follow the guy who was supposed to.
Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
Where I'm going with this is even though he was
not the Belichick tree, he played there, he didn't coach
underneath him. Is if Mike Rabel's going to start to
change some minds.
Speaker 4 (01:50:38):
So well, okay, let let me just start off with this.
I thought that Mike Rabel got a short end of
the stick when he was in Tennessee. Now you think
he did get short at the stick, let's call that
he probably was gonna get fired, because that's in penn brother,
that ain't pencil.
Speaker 9 (01:50:51):
Hell.
Speaker 3 (01:50:51):
As a matter of fact, that's in sharpie.
Speaker 4 (01:50:53):
He was probably gonna get fired regardless the next season
because of the team was going to be regressing so much.
They were just hitting reset. But like the narrative of
oh well he didn't have all this ducks in order
or that, you know, his offensive innovators like guys, he
was in Tennessee with an incompetent GM, a reluctant owner
to spend money, constant neglect at the quarterback position, the
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inability to retain talent, and he was able to get
to nine wins, nine wins, eleven wins, twelve wins and
only two losing seasons. He's been He's number three all
time in the f franchise's history in wins for a coach.
I'm like, the dude just speaks players and he gets
what players are going through, and he teeters this line
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of I understand it, but I also don't give a
flying care in the world. Therefore us going I don't
care about your problems, I don't care about feelings.
Speaker 3 (01:51:42):
I care about wins.
Speaker 4 (01:51:43):
But he also understands how a player reacts that type
of stuff, that's what you need.
Speaker 3 (01:51:48):
I think that Demiko, if he was.
Speaker 4 (01:51:49):
A little bit more intense in that standpoint, Texas would
probably be flirt twelve and five every single year. But
still that player Mantra cares a lot of weight. And
I don't think Demiko is trying to overshadow anyone. I
just think that it's, you know, unintentionally the case, because
I mean, for anybody else on this coaching staff, who
do you know a ton about?
Speaker 3 (01:52:09):
You don't? You really don't.
Speaker 2 (01:52:10):
I mean, Matt Burke and Nick Kayley are about the
only ones in Cole Popovich because of how the offensive
line is. But the receiver's coach, you think most people
know who that is. The running backs coach think most
people know who that is. You know that, of course,
you know that. But I just I think that the
casual fan doesn't. Well, you know about Frank Ross you
know about Frank Ross. Of course, you know, because he
looks like and talks like John Burnhal.
Speaker 3 (01:52:32):
But he does. That's actually okay, now I cannot see it. No,
it's it's uncanny.
Speaker 2 (01:52:37):
And the next time I ever meet him in person,
I'm gonna ask him and be like, dude, do you
ever get John Bernhal?
Speaker 3 (01:52:41):
Yeah? I think he's too short though, that's the problem.
I mean, how tall is Bernhal? Is he pretty big? Guys?
Six three six four?
Speaker 7 (01:52:47):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:52:47):
Is he really?
Speaker 2 (01:52:47):
Yeah? He's big, So I mean he really is the punisher.
That's the point. Like, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:52:51):
He was Brandon and wolfle wall Street. He stills the
best scene in the movie.
Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
Hey, sell me this pin you need something to write with?
There you go supply and demand what a scene. I
love that movie, I really do.
Speaker 4 (01:53:02):
But anyways, like, besides that, besides the character of who
Frank Ross is, you really just only know about Tmiko Ryans,
Nick Kaylee, Matt Burke. And for most part you don't
really know that much about Matt Burke and Nick Keaylee
because of they're not aggressively at the microphone. They are
very much in a due diligence order so a lot
of what you see is Tomko. So I think that's
another selling point of where it's somewhat challenging if you
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are specifically a defensive mind to coach, let's just start
there and then somebody who isn't showing the emotions that
some teams are grasping for to be able to lead
your roster, to be able to be in that frontline
center move of yes, we believe you are going to
make a great head coach.
Speaker 3 (01:53:40):
I think if you leave and go.
Speaker 4 (01:53:41):
Somewhere else and prove that you could be a good
play caller and then you look back up what you
did in Houston, that's a probably easier way, But that
sucks for Houston because you lose a really good guy,
Matt Burke, who's been great for this organization.
Speaker 2 (01:53:52):
I know that Matt is listening Matt Thomas because he
always does so a believe it or not believe it
or not Texans assistant coaches. I think that most people
would get some wrong. Oh you mean just name them
off right?
Speaker 7 (01:54:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
Yeah, not the people, not the coordinators, not to Miko.
We all we obviously know who those four guys are.
Speaker 4 (01:54:11):
No, like Frankie Western Moreland, we know that's the tight
ends coach, right of course.
Speaker 3 (01:54:15):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
Yeah, there you go seven one three two on two
five seven ninety. Brandon, we'll get you involved. You want
to join them. Seveone three two on two five seven
ninety A move made by the Texans yesterday that signals certainty.
We'll discuss that right here. And don't forget Eric ed
Hoolme from NFL dot com. I'm gonna join us here
in about fifteen minutes. As it is the Morning Drive
with Danny Cole Sports Talks seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
Age down. The Morning Drive continues. Now, now here's Dan
and Cole.
Speaker 3 (01:54:46):
The point is is in the program, you'd be five
foot eleven. Now I'm five foot nine in the program.
Oh so you're even shorter than I got five foot nine.
That's how tall I am? You mean me in person?
Speaker 4 (01:54:55):
You're just very tall, and I'm very very much all right,
all right, I wasn't stop yelling.
Speaker 3 (01:55:01):
I wasn't following. I apologize. I'm sorry. We're midway through
a hump day, that's what we're here. No, we're not.
So you just you continue to you continue to poke
like you just keep doing it, exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
That's the point It's like what Tommy Norris said on
land Man, you're poking the wrong bear.
Speaker 4 (01:55:17):
I still haven't seen the episode yet. I'm gonna do
that tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:55:21):
It's a great show.
Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
Someone three two, one, two, five seven ninety is the
number to get in.
Speaker 3 (01:55:27):
Brandon will work you in.
Speaker 2 (01:55:27):
But uh Lake and Tomlinson let go by the Texans
yesterday waived and the report from Adam Schefter led you
to believe that it was a mutual parting right there
where it was, Hey, you've lost your starting spot. Well
can you cut me loose and let me go somewhere else? Sure, yes,
we can do that, but I mean, if nothing else.
It's something that had been a question to Demiico Ryance
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for weeks about, uh, you know, do you have your
starting five? Do you do you feel like you've got
that group? And now, without a shadow of a doubt,
you do. Where You've got urs Y at the left,
you got uh, Titus Howard at the left guard. You
got Jake Andrews there at the center, and Ed Ingram
and also Trent Brown over there at the right tackle spot.
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You know, Jared Patterson, Blake Fisher who's now in a
pseudo you know, third tight end. He's your eligible tackle.
And then you've also got Jew Scruggs. So those are
your three guys that you have active on game days.
Speaker 4 (01:56:22):
You've forgot one of the actor on game Dycevermin. I
was gonna say, you've got about Errick Kingston.
Speaker 3 (01:56:27):
He's easy to forget about, no offense to him.
Speaker 4 (01:56:29):
I mean, the guy that's never suited up for one
game in the Texans uniform this year is easy forget about.
Speaker 2 (01:56:33):
So there's always a player that that fits that, like
where it's just like, oh, they're inactive again.
Speaker 3 (01:56:37):
Who knew Dadian Pearce before that? Let's be real. Braxton
Barrios at times has been that dude this season? For
sure they have.
Speaker 2 (01:56:45):
But I mean, just you know, at least if nothing else,
I mean, and this is where you want to get
into the most certainty of certainties, and especially at the
offensive line spot, that's where you want it. And I
mean it's good that at least you feel that comfortable
with the group that you've got.
Speaker 3 (01:56:59):
And if you do have.
Speaker 2 (01:57:00):
Either of those guys goes down, well then you like
what you have already in the building.
Speaker 4 (01:57:05):
Okay, Now, do you really like Jared Patterson or Juice
scrugs to.
Speaker 3 (01:57:08):
Have to come on in or now. If they have to,
you're fine with it, but you don't want to have
to rely on them. Does that make sense? Okay, so cute.
Speaker 4 (01:57:15):
Let me let me throw out this scenario though, for you,
because this is where my brain goes, and it's very
much I think in the right right, but I could
be wrong. Let's say that Trent Brown goes down. Are
you keeping Titus Howard at left guard or are you
moving him over to right tackle?
Speaker 2 (01:57:29):
Again, I think he probably goes to right tackle, and
then you have Jared Patterson.
Speaker 3 (01:57:34):
Juice, I three you on that.
Speaker 4 (01:57:35):
I think for some reason, I just don't trust Blake
Fisher for more than fifteen STAPs a game, and I
don't think that I.
Speaker 3 (01:57:39):
Can put him there.
Speaker 4 (01:57:40):
That's that's where they've had him exactly, and you would
have to play him at the right.
Speaker 2 (01:57:43):
Now, you go to a game, the fifty seven is eligible.
Number fifty seven is eligible. You hear it in your
sleep whenever Blake Fisher comes into the game.
Speaker 3 (01:57:51):
It's like, well, I what I told you about yesterday
when I came You're tossing and turning at night, and
you hear the referee, and you're in your mind fifty
seven is eligible. Fifty seven is eligible.
Speaker 4 (01:58:00):
By the way, as you were drifting off to sleep
last night, did you hear tickle your tonsils down side?
Speaker 3 (01:58:03):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (01:58:04):
I didn't and and I will continue to not hear it,
in addition to other things that you try to throw
my way. Brandon, real quick before we get to Eric
at home. Brandon, what's going on?
Speaker 10 (01:58:15):
Good morning, Dan.
Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
Good morning, good morning.
Speaker 4 (01:58:21):
How are you good?
Speaker 3 (01:58:23):
What's telling your mind?
Speaker 1 (01:58:23):
Brandon asked?
Speaker 7 (01:58:26):
What about him? I saw you? We signed a picture.
Speaker 4 (01:58:30):
Yeah, what do you think about him? I like?
Speaker 7 (01:58:34):
I like it? You do?
Speaker 3 (01:58:35):
What what's your what's your favorite thing that you think
he's going to provide for the team this year?
Speaker 5 (01:58:41):
We need some wins and go into playoffs?
Speaker 3 (01:58:46):
Well do you think Dan, both of those?
Speaker 2 (01:58:48):
I mean, you know, if nothing else, you just want
to be able to have good options, Brandon, And that's
that's what he is. He's he's not being brought into
without a shadow of a doubt when a starting pitching spot.
But at least you gonna get a shot in spring training.
That's all he can ask for.
Speaker 5 (01:59:03):
Okay, tons, are we keeping him well?
Speaker 3 (01:59:07):
Tunsil's been gone.
Speaker 7 (01:59:10):
So okay, Oh I saw the quarterback CJ.
Speaker 8 (01:59:17):
Stroud.
Speaker 3 (01:59:18):
Yeah he's back. Yeah, he came back last week. But
you see a mountain person or something.
Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
No, I saw him when we played the Nicolets.
Speaker 3 (01:59:27):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (01:59:28):
Yep, he was back and he'll be back out on
the field again this week. To Brandon, Hey, we gotta
get Derek at Holme Man. We'll talk with you soon.
All right, I appreciate it, buddy. Yeah, you got CJ.
Stroud back, so we'll talk him. We'll talk Texans defense,
the Colts, everything in between. With our good buddy Eric
at Hoolme NFL dot com. He's hopping on with us
(01:59:49):
right now here on the Morning Drive with Danning Coles
Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 3 (01:59:56):
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Speaker 5 (02:00:04):
This is Sports Talk seven ninety your home for your
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Speaker 7 (02:00:11):
And.
Speaker 1 (02:00:15):
This is the Morning Drive with Dad and Cole.
Speaker 2 (02:00:24):
He's Eric at Hoolme NFL dot com and clearly also
to given his cover photo on his Twitter account, is
a massive big Lebowski fan. So Eric points for you
on that. Clearly, clearly you are a golfer.
Speaker 3 (02:00:38):
So that is. That is good to know.
Speaker 2 (02:00:41):
But yeah, you know, the Lebowski talk, it could be there,
But for this one, I mean, it's it's a big
one on Sunday night for both Kansas City and for Houston.
So gut feeling right now for you who has more
of the pressure on them? Is it Kansas City with
a loss in your out or is it the Texans
with where they stand right now in their playoff seating?
Speaker 13 (02:01:04):
Yeah, every every Lebowski quote that I want to say
right now contains some sort of word that probably isn't
allowed on your station.
Speaker 4 (02:01:12):
Dump button, your element, Donnie, we we we know.
Speaker 13 (02:01:17):
You guys are sharper than I am this morning. Yeah,
that's a great question. I mean, I think right now,
given just the records, I mean, right, Texans are slightly ahead,
so and obviously every spot is going to be really
tightly contested there at the end. We don't know if
they can they can do enough to win the division
at this point. But yeah, I would say maybe Kansas
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City probably needs to you know, pulling inside straight here
and Rent went out, So I would I would nominally
say that that they're the team that probably needs it
more so to speak, but I think you could make
a case for both teams, just especially given the way
that the season started at owing three for Houston.
Speaker 8 (02:01:57):
But yeah, that's why I love this time of year.
Speaker 13 (02:02:00):
You know, everybody kind of labors through weeks ten to
thirteen or whatever, and then you get to the point
where you're like, all right, all these head head matchups
really do matter, And I can't wait to see what
Mahomes does against this defense, and likewise, what CJ does
against the Chiefs defense.
Speaker 8 (02:02:17):
The frankly needs a big performance.
Speaker 4 (02:02:19):
Eric, Let's stay on CJ for a minute. You know,
miss three games comes back. Not the best performance, still
two hundred and sixty eight passing yards. When you look
back at the film from the start of the season
to what you saw on Sunday's win, what are some
things that have drastically changed to where you feel like
that we're getting more of what we saw on twenty
twenty three on a regular basis.
Speaker 8 (02:02:38):
Yeah, No, obviously, h Sunday.
Speaker 13 (02:02:40):
I mean it felt like you got off to a
little bit of a rusty start. You know, the interception
and the one passed beyond the line of scrimmage and stuff,
you know, little things, not little things of an interception,
but you know what I mean, just kind of getting
the field of game back. But yeah, obviously just not
to be able to convert in early part of the season.
I mean, they allowed what thirty forty points in the
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first three games and lost and and you know, uh,
I think with Davis filling in as nicely as.
Speaker 8 (02:03:07):
He did, even with you know, some empty.
Speaker 13 (02:03:10):
Series and some little stretches and games where things weren't
going great, you know, you saw them just be a
more kind of efficient operation all around, even I think,
and you know, the offensive line seems to have kind
of settled in even with changes in guys.
Speaker 8 (02:03:25):
Moving positions and whatnot.
Speaker 13 (02:03:26):
And you know, the running back situation isn't the best
in the league by any means, but they you know,
I think these two can do an okay job of
of what they're being asked to do, outside of maybe
some pass protection stuff. But yeah, you know, I mean
obviously the receivers I think have stepped up in a
in a good way, and you know, seeing some some
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different playmakers other and Nico Collins has been a welcome sign.
Speaker 8 (02:03:51):
And this team just fascinates me.
Speaker 13 (02:03:53):
You know, I think at their at their peak, they're
going to be a very tough opponent for for anybody
down the stretch, and especially if.
Speaker 8 (02:03:59):
They can make into playoffs.
Speaker 13 (02:04:00):
I think that's where they can, you know, maybe cause
a little chaos.
Speaker 2 (02:04:04):
Eric at Hoolme again from NFL dot Com join us
here on the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole and
the and uh, let's flip it over to the defense
for the Texans. I mean, just this stretch that they've
been going through these last four games and you know,
obviously four straight wins for them, Just what is what
has stood out to you the most about that group?
Speaker 13 (02:04:23):
I mean, I really I don't know that there's a
true weakness on this group. You know, maybe you could say,
you know, a little depth of the on the defensive
line or something like that, but I mean, I don't know.
You guys probably know the ins and outs a little
better than I do for sure, and but you know,
the pressure they can create up front, the speed they have,
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you know, flowing.
Speaker 8 (02:04:45):
I think they're a good tackling team too. That's one
of the things. Obviously we think about some of the big.
Speaker 13 (02:04:50):
Hitters they have, but I mean they've been pretty reliable
in that in that regard to and think about some
of the scores they've given up, they've been like corner
of the end zone touchdowns, some remarkable throws and catches too.
Speaker 8 (02:05:02):
So you really have to beat your best to beat him.
Speaker 13 (02:05:04):
I mean, again not saying that a quarterback of Mahome's
ability can't do that sort of thing. Of course, right,
we know how good these guys are at their at
their peak, but I mean you really have to be
buttoned up. And you know, I you know Dale Jones
last week for playing on a broken leg, I.
Speaker 8 (02:05:21):
Know his mobility was really limited. I thought the guy
played okay.
Speaker 13 (02:05:25):
I mean I didn't think he was really like the problem,
but to be able to hold him in check, so
to speak, and then also contain Jonathan Taylor. Look, this
is an offense that was making teams look foolish for
the first half of the season, and the Texans held
him under wraps without having, you know, an explosive, dynamic offense.
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So that really, for me was just another reminder of
what they're where they're at, And I think they're the
best all around defense in the league.
Speaker 8 (02:05:54):
Maybe not by a massive.
Speaker 13 (02:05:56):
Margin, but I think certainly you would only put a
handful of teams up in that discussion right now, and
you know, hard not to just sit back and enjoy
watching you know, Hunter and Anderson and those guys rush
the passer Eric.
Speaker 4 (02:06:09):
When you look at this Texan team, I mean there's
stars everywhere, whether it be Derek Singley junior, you got
Will Anderson, Daniel Hunters having.
Speaker 3 (02:06:15):
A career year.
Speaker 4 (02:06:16):
Who's the unsung hero that has made such an impact
for Damika Ryans's unit over the last three years?
Speaker 8 (02:06:23):
Oh wow, Okay, that's a tough one.
Speaker 13 (02:06:25):
I mean, you know, some of the some of the
young dbs have really kind of stepped up, I think,
and played some good ball. And you know, I mean, look,
I think Cayden Bullock's a really good player, and whenever
I watch him, I really enjoy what I see and
I think he's done a nice job Tomorrow, Lassiter two,
same thing. I mean, I think both guys. I was
a huge Jail and Petrie fan coming out. You know,
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I think everybody loved his college tape and just the
energy you brought and you know, the versatility and the
hitting and all that. So he's obviously a fun piece
for this team when he's healthy and everything. So yeah,
I mean, I think, you know, we tend to look
at the guys up front and you know, the big
hits from Alshai here and guys like that. But still
you can't forget about the other secondary guys not named
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Stingley too. I mean, not trying to avoid giving him
his flowers, but you know there are other guys who
are doing a whale of a job back there too.
Speaker 2 (02:07:17):
Again, he's Eric at home NFL dot Com. Join us
here on the morning Drive, and Eric, let's get back
to you know, the defensive side in the in the
matchup that you know Andy Reid is going to try
to throw out them because we know he's one of
the best game planners. He's one of the best play
callers in the game. But I think about a guy
like Travis Kelsey at this stage of his career, can
he have a huge day against this Texans defense.
Speaker 8 (02:07:40):
I guess if.
Speaker 13 (02:07:41):
You're more worried about Rashid Rice, you know to me
that Rice is their kind of true difference maker again,
not the Kelsey. Can't you know Kelsey's a great guy
at this stage of his career, where if.
Speaker 8 (02:07:52):
You kind of forget about.
Speaker 13 (02:07:53):
Him, Oh yeah, by the way, he can you know
he can sting It for a thirty yard play. A
lot of these come on kind of schemed up where
he gets a little runway or something like that.
Speaker 8 (02:08:03):
But you know, I know that he and Pat.
Speaker 13 (02:08:05):
The first half of the year had a little trouble
making some connections. They were just a tick off, or
the throw would be a hair laid, or you know,
Kelsey would drop one that he usually catches, And so
there was a little bit of talk about are they
kind of losing some of their magic? But even with
his I would say small physical limitations at this stage
with career, he can't do all the same stuff he
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used to do.
Speaker 8 (02:08:28):
He's still so crafty and so.
Speaker 13 (02:08:30):
Smart setting up dbs and linebackers and you know, using
the wisdom that he's accrued over the years. And obviously
I'm sure he's watched a lot of this defense and
kind of has some ideas of what's gonna work and
what won't. And you know, you're talking about three of
the best offensive minds slash players and league history, and
Andy Reid, Mahomes and Kelsey, and you know they're gonna
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have solutions to even some of the hardest problems. But yeah,
I mean, if you're been on taking away their outside threats.
You know, it's not like Xavier Worthy has been remarkable
this season, I think in some ways even taking a
step back in some regards.
Speaker 8 (02:09:12):
But Rice, to me, really could be the true difference
maker there.
Speaker 13 (02:09:16):
So that's a scenario where you can't forget about the
Hall of Fame target. I mean, even if he's not
the same sort of vertical threat he.
Speaker 8 (02:09:23):
Used to be.
Speaker 4 (02:09:24):
Eric We've been having this conversation just from a broader
perspective about the AFC, where the Texans, if they win,
they moved to eight and five, there's an opportunity for
them to still win the division title. But you look
at Buffalo, you look at Baltimore, you look at Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (02:09:37):
You see what.
Speaker 4 (02:09:38):
New England is doing year one with a fourth place schedule.
Does it feel like that for the first time really
since Pat Mahomes took on over in twenty eighteen. The
AFC is a wide open race and anyone can take
this division, no.
Speaker 13 (02:09:51):
Doubt, no doubt in my mind. Yeah, I mean, I
think you could probably make the case. In the NFC,
A lot of people gave me hard time for keeping
the Rams number one of my power rankings. I get,
you know, I understand everyone's going to agree, but more
so on the AFC side because you have the two
wins leaders New England and Denver, you know, sort of
new kids to the party a little bit. Obviously, Denver
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had some success last year. You know, we kind of
knew it would come with Sean Payton and all that.
And I'm sure some people thought Mike Rabel had a
chance to turn this team around quickly or you know.
Speaker 8 (02:10:20):
But not to this level, not to eleven and two level.
Speaker 13 (02:10:25):
Should be a twelve and one too, if you think
about their one loss of the Raiders.
Speaker 8 (02:10:28):
But how good are they? Truly?
Speaker 13 (02:10:31):
I'm not trying to be the Patriots hater. I know
it's easy after twenty years of them destroying the league
for people to hate that franchise.
Speaker 8 (02:10:39):
Keck I grew up there.
Speaker 13 (02:10:40):
But I have my doubts because they haven't played the
strongest schedule yet. So a dominant performance against the Giants, great,
that's what you should do. I think I want to
know how they stack up against some of the heavyweights,
the Broncos daddling around for well, you guys know you
saw them, but I.
Speaker 8 (02:10:58):
Mean, like, you know, three quarters, they look like, okay,
how good is.
Speaker 3 (02:11:03):
This yeah won basically right, and.
Speaker 8 (02:11:06):
How many times?
Speaker 13 (02:11:07):
How many wins have they had this year the Broncos
where the other team went away going, oh we let
that one slip away. I'm I'm getting to the point
where I realized, Look, it's a repeated thing, right. We
saw the Chiefs do it last year, win a ton
of close games, you know by the hair on their
chitting chin chin, and everybody kind of doubted, and they
still got to a super Bowl, you know, blowout or not,
(02:11:28):
they still made it all the way to New Orleans.
There's something to be said for having that ability to
win close games. But is anybody gonna push all their
chips in the middle and say the Broncos are definitely getting.
Speaker 8 (02:11:41):
To the either even the AFC Championship Game this year.
It's a big bet.
Speaker 13 (02:11:45):
You know, that's a that's a leap of faith for
me right now. So that's why I'm saying a team
like the Texans can cause the real noise. That's why
I think, you know, Josh Allen still has a chance.
I mean, you know what I mean that there's not
I understand, and your question was more about the non
Bills Chiefs type teams, but as mediocres.
Speaker 8 (02:12:05):
The bills have looked at times this year.
Speaker 13 (02:12:07):
I don't think you can bury them because of what's
happening on that side of the bracket.
Speaker 3 (02:12:12):
Great stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:12:13):
Eric the Dude bides he's Eric at home NFL dot
Com joined us here on the morning Drive.
Speaker 3 (02:12:18):
Eric, appreciate it, man. We'll catch up beginning here very soon.
Speaker 8 (02:12:21):
All right, Brent can't watch, so you guys.
Speaker 3 (02:12:23):
There, you go appreciate it. I love that. I didn't
expect that last one right here.
Speaker 4 (02:12:29):
We got him at the very beginning with the fastball
he gave him with the closet.
Speaker 2 (02:12:32):
He did, he did. He got us with the inside
fastball right there. We couldn't get around on him.
Speaker 4 (02:12:38):
A good job by him, he said a lot of
the things I completely agree with. It's fools gold with
New England, it's fools goal with Denver. Like, yes, in
that standpoint, if the Texans can win on Sunday, you
gain a lot of confidence that they can go to
until with almost anybody in the anybody in the conference,
especially because you've already beaten multiple.
Speaker 3 (02:12:56):
Of these teams.
Speaker 2 (02:12:57):
Yeah, and that's something that's still ahead of the Texan
And a couple of other things that he mentioned that
I thought were interesting that we'll carry over to the
other side too, also Carrington Harrison from ninety six to
five up there in Kansas City. We'll get the chief
side of things for Sunday night. We'll have all that
right here as it is in the Morning Drive with
Dan and Cole Sports Talk seven.
Speaker 5 (02:13:18):
Ninety Dan Matthews, Cole Thompson.
Speaker 1 (02:13:23):
This is the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole.
Speaker 2 (02:13:28):
Chris Cleman's going to step down at Kansas State. Yea,
so sounds like Colin Kleine is going back to his
alma mater to be the head coach at Kansas State.
Speaker 3 (02:13:37):
So offensive coordinator he.
Speaker 4 (02:13:40):
Was always he was always the movie they ever like
a climbing and again, good for him to be able
to go.
Speaker 2 (02:13:44):
You would have possibly thought that Penn State could be
in play, especially with just their absolute just dumpster fire
that they're dealing with right now at the coaching search.
Speaker 4 (02:13:53):
It's so funny that we just saw a coach announce
his retirement and less than ten minutes later we now
know who was gonna be the next head of coach
in Manhattan. Meanwhile, all of the players at Penn State
are committing to Virginia Tech while they're trying to figure
out on national signing Day, Hey, who's gonna be coaching
these guys?
Speaker 3 (02:14:11):
They were the first ones.
Speaker 2 (02:14:12):
Second they Okay, so the second one is right, Kiah,
because Arkansas beat them to it, but they were early
on in the process and like you have continuously struck out. Wait,
not good there, but that's their problem. Also to sounds
like Brian Hartline is gonna leave Ohio State and go
to South Florida.
Speaker 4 (02:14:30):
So another Penn State option is that leaving and going elsewhere. Yeah,
he's seen State College Tampa, Florida. I think I want
the ones that are build a new stadium state College
where they never beat Ohio State, South Florida, where I
never had the play.
Speaker 2 (02:14:44):
Ohio State can build the program and then go get
a larger job.
Speaker 3 (02:14:48):
It's gonna be there for one year, and then Florida
State's gona hire.
Speaker 2 (02:14:50):
There you go someone three two and two five seven
ninety is the number to get in Speaking of, you know,
our talk with Eric Dave on the North Side.
Speaker 3 (02:14:59):
Once weigh in on that, Dave, good morning.
Speaker 14 (02:15:03):
Good morning guys.
Speaker 3 (02:15:04):
Everything going very well.
Speaker 14 (02:15:06):
Ye who who is who is Eric? Did the guy
you talked to talk to.
Speaker 2 (02:15:10):
Eric at Holmes with NFL dot Com. I think he
was with Yahoo before, but uh, he's been in the
game for some time.
Speaker 3 (02:15:17):
Great guy, a.
Speaker 14 (02:15:18):
Great guy, and great research and analogy on NFL analogy
by him.
Speaker 7 (02:15:25):
Uh. Uh.
Speaker 14 (02:15:27):
What I want to say is that, like, uh, you know,
the Texans basically, uh, when the schedule came out, they
circled three teams the Chiefs, the Ravens, and uh the
Bills as one of as of those three teams that
that needed to be to be able to be even
to be in the playoffs. So I mean that, uh,
(02:15:50):
but great analogy by uh Eric scouting the Texas defense,
I mean the Texas defense. I mean it, they're incredible.
I mean they really are both count both defense. But
the thing I'm worried about is that other NFL analysts are,
(02:16:11):
not to quip, are not so critical of the Houston
Texans because of their offense. And why is that?
Speaker 2 (02:16:20):
Well, I mean I just think that it's an expectations thing.
Appreciate the call, Dave. I mean, there's very low expectations.
It's it's again, you know, have low expectations, be pleasantly surprised.
I think that pretty much at this point with the
Texans offense, that's the way we look at them, like
if they if they score more than twenty four points,
it's oh man, they had a really good game.
Speaker 3 (02:16:41):
Well, you face off against a really crappy defense. Well,
I mean, and then that helps too.
Speaker 2 (02:16:45):
Well, I mean in the case of they're not like
incredibly crappy, but they're not great. I mean, you want
to scored sixteen against the Tennessee Titans, so that kind
of goes both ways.
Speaker 4 (02:16:53):
Well, also, hid your backup quarterback and let's let's be real,
outside of a sixteen point comeback.
Speaker 3 (02:16:58):
Wait a minute, people wanted him to art even when
CJ came back.
Speaker 4 (02:17:01):
Yeah, they also wanted to have who was it? Oh yeah,
I forgot. Chip Kelly has their office cordinat of this offseason.
How's that going?
Speaker 7 (02:17:08):
Well?
Speaker 4 (02:17:08):
I was one of them, and I know, and thankfully
I think that you've learned from the error of your ways.
Speaker 3 (02:17:13):
Have you said to today I apologize, No, I haven't.
Speaker 4 (02:17:17):
So you're still believe that Chip Kelly should be the
office coordinator here.
Speaker 2 (02:17:19):
I just I thought that somebody with play calling experience
should have been. But I mean, look, chip Kelly was
the name that was out there, and I felt like
it would have made sense. I mean it's also too
I mean Chip Kelly with CJ. Stroud and Nico Collins
as opposed to basically Brock Powers.
Speaker 4 (02:17:37):
I mean, I can still tell you right now, I'm
very thankful for finally having my point be made that
Gino Smith was the most overrated quarterback in the last
three years.
Speaker 3 (02:17:44):
But yeah, I mean, yess, that's fine.
Speaker 4 (02:17:46):
I'll continue a little bit that I had to deal
with trolls on freaking Twitter for two years. Tell me
why Gino Smith, because of his EPA value, was a
top ten quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (02:17:56):
We still go on that.
Speaker 4 (02:17:58):
So I'm fun with that because Chip kel who I
will agree you put him in another situation, probably as
a job right now, even though he was going behind
Pete Carroll's back and running into completely different offense than
he was telling everybody, would probably be a good fit.
I mean, I do agree in that standpoint. Uh, But again,
the Texans, you give me twenty four points.
Speaker 3 (02:18:16):
Offensively, I think that you're gonna.
Speaker 4 (02:18:18):
Win the football game, and whether or not that's Davis
Mills or CJ. Stroud, it's because of how good your
defense is because you also got to remind yourself, Dan,
if you're scoring twenty four points, that means that your
defense is probably holding them.
Speaker 3 (02:18:31):
To twenty one. Twenty one is good enough.
Speaker 2 (02:18:33):
I just you know, and we've talked about the magic
number part of it. I think you guys know you
know where. I feel like that is the sweet spot
for the Texans offense be able to help out this defense.
But I you know, I just I also, you know,
just talking with Eric, I gotta tell you I feel
even better about this because I feel like this is
a bad matchup for Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (02:18:52):
I don't think it's a great one.
Speaker 4 (02:18:54):
I think that's still the fact that the Patrick Mahomes
is always going to be the outlier in the East
in the hole, I.
Speaker 3 (02:18:58):
Mean until I And here's the thing. So CJ. Stroud
has gone up against Kansas City twice in his career.
He has a.
Speaker 4 (02:19:03):
Complete percentage of sixty one percent. He has two touchdowns,
two interceptions. One game he was out out of the
end up entirely. They only can trust the rushing attack.
I gotta see CJ. Stroud prove that he can actually
go toe to toe with Patrick Mahomes and meet the
numbers wise, because until then it's very easy to say
fifteen's got custon summer.
Speaker 3 (02:19:23):
But here's the beauty of it, though.
Speaker 2 (02:19:25):
I think for Stroud, the pressure kind of comes off
of him because it's, hey, don't turn the football over.
We win this game, Whereas I feel like with Mahomes,
it's yeah, you've got Raychie Rice and he means a
lot to you. You got Worthy too, same deal there.
But again, I mean it gets back to I'm no
longer worried about Jason ke Jason Kelsey. I'm not worried
(02:19:46):
about him either for a while. But I'm not worried
about Travis Kelsey. I mean, I'm not in any sense
of the word worried about him. And I'm not worried
about Isaiah Pacheco or Kareem Hunt. I mean behind that
offensive line that Kan City has been and out this year,
good luck?
Speaker 3 (02:20:03):
Are luck getting those guys going?
Speaker 4 (02:20:04):
Are you worried though, about Chris Jones coming up the
middle against Ed Ingram and Jared Patterson slash Jake Andrews
to go take down CJ Strout.
Speaker 2 (02:20:13):
I mean not as much from the standpoint of you
can be able to double team him and be able
to give him extra attention. But I mean, I still
think you are going to see pressure on CJ. That's
not going to change.
Speaker 4 (02:20:25):
I don't think that Chris Jones is the number one
defensive tackle in the NFL. I do think he is
the best pass rushing defensive tackle in the NFL. And
that's the scary part to where I think that if
you aren't able to double team him and you are
leaving other openings, that could lead to a couple of sacks,
pressures or better yet, ill advice throw from CJ that
leads to interceptions, turnovers in the wrong standpoint. And by
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the way, you give Patrick Mahomes two minutes, that's still
far too much time.
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Speaker 3 (02:22:45):
Harrison karens I'm just gonna start off with this, what.
Speaker 4 (02:22:48):
Has gone wrong over the last thirteen weeks for the
Kandisy Chiefs to where it feels like missing the playoffs
is not just the possibility, it's almost a reality.
Speaker 7 (02:23:00):
Well, I don't want to take of the rest of
you guys show, so I'll try to just summarize it
here in a quick paragraph. I would say the two
things have gone wrong for the Chiefs. Number One, it's
been passed Russ. The Chiefs haven't had a sack in
eleven quarters. And I don't care how good of a
team you are if you can't disrupt timing from the
other team's quarterback. That's going to cause a problem. So
that's been number one. I would say number two is
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last year the Chiefs were the best. It's five minutes
left in the game, it's a tie ball game. The
Chiefs won eleven to zero in one score games. Last year.
They were the best finishers, the best closers in the league.
Last year. They haven't been that this year. It's been
the exact opposite. I've been making the analogy on my show.
It's like, you know when you play roulette. Let's say
you only play colors and you play red, and just
(02:23:42):
Ran keeps hitting and keep hitting and keep hitting. Well,
now it's turned the other way. Now Black continues to hit,
and now the Chiefs have kind of found themselves on
the other side of the spectrum. So I would say
those have been the two big things. I would say
their inability to close in games and their inability to
get to the other team's quarterback. Those have been the
two things that I've done them.
Speaker 3 (02:23:59):
Man and Carrington.
Speaker 2 (02:24:01):
I mean, it seems like they've got to go five
for five to even have a chance to make the playoffs.
I mean, you got Patrick Mahomes, you got a shot.
You got Andy Reid, you got a shot. But I mean,
for everything you just mentioned right there, does it kind
of feel like I mean, that's just too much of
a daunting task even for those two guys to be
able to overtake.
Speaker 7 (02:24:18):
I mean, I have them losing this week to the
Houston Texans. I really like the way that Houston has
played the last couple of weeks. I find it hard
to believe that you can be six and six and
now tell me that you have the ability to go
five and zero, just based on how the Chiefs have played.
I mean, let's remove the game against Tennessee, Let's remove
the game against Las Vegas. Those are two bottom eight
teams in the National Football League. You have to beat Houston,
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Denver and Los Angeles. We're talking about three potential playoff teams.
Kansas City just hasn't shown me that they're going three
to oho in those games. They might go two to
one for sure in those games, but something's going to happen.
A penalty, a turnover, a bad drive. Something has just
happened at every single turn for this team. Right now.
I don't have them making the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (02:25:00):
Aaron Tick, can you talk a little bit about what's
going on with the offensive line. Josh Simmons steeling with
an injury. Tray Smith was out last week.
Speaker 3 (02:25:06):
What is his status for this game? And then of
course you got a revolving door right tackle.
Speaker 7 (02:25:11):
Yeah, I mean, right now, I mean you just kind
of summarize it. I mean right now, I mean Josh Simmons,
their starting left tackle, has a broken wrist. I don't
believe he's gonna play. We'll find out today, but I
assume he's going to be out. Tray Smith he's out
with a high ankle sprain, and they're also not going
to have their right tackle. So a big reason on
why I'm picking Houston in this game is I think
Houston's strength is their defensive line. I think their strength
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is the ability to get after the other team's quarterback.
You know, watching these last couple of Texas game, watching
will Anderson just dominate the Buffalo Bill's offensive line. If
he was doing that to Buffalo's offensive line, what is
he going to do to Kansas City's sixth, seventh, and
eighth offensive lineman. So that's where I think that Texans
have a major advantage because the Chiefs are super banged
up upfront.
Speaker 2 (02:25:53):
Again Carrington Harrison from ninety six to five up there
in Kansas City, join us here on the Morning Drive
with Dana Carrington. I'm just curious, I mean, because you know,
this is a little bit of a long term question here,
but I mean, just with the way that this season
has gone, what is the fan base. Are they looking
at it as it's a bad season, just tee it
back up next year and we're right back in position,
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or is there legit concern that like maybe this is
the end of this run.
Speaker 7 (02:26:20):
I would say it's probably a lot more just retool
the roster. I think the Chiefs kind of made a
critical air that, in hindsight, we should have saw after
the Chiefs lost the Super Bowl to Tampa Bay. It
was kind of a run it back mentality, Hey, we're
just going to bring back the same pieces, the same guys.
You know, Hey, we'll get back on track. It worked
the first time. I think this is like a Hangover three. Sure,
(02:26:41):
it's the same characters that it was the first movie,
but it just doesn't have the same last It doesn't
have that same kind of feel. I mean, if you've
been watching the Chiefs team and this is the same
Chiefs team you've been watching for the last two to
three seasons, But then you look at the rest of
the AFC. Didver is completely different, Indianapolis is very different
in New England. So a lot of those competitors just
feel like fresh teams, and Kansas City feels a little
(02:27:02):
bit stale. So at least for me, I'm not going
to ever advocate for them to fire Andy Reid. We're
not close to there. I don't think they should fire
their general manager, Brett Viach, but some things got to change.
They got enough on offense, so they shouldn't be as
stagnant as they feel offensively when it comes to the
defensive line some of those things. So I think at
least I'm pushing for some widespread coaching changes. And also
(02:27:23):
I just think that Chiefs need a roster refresh. I
think they've kind of runned this iteration back just one
too many times, and now we just kind of start
fresh and just find some guys closer to their prime.
And this team just needs to hit on the draft again.
Speaker 4 (02:27:37):
Okay, you set me up for this one, dude, so
I apologize. But basically we're entering for Tom Brady's two
point zero with Patrick Mahomes the era where they didn't
win a Super Bowl from two thousand and seven to
twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3 (02:27:47):
Right, that's where we are in Kansas City, Land, Right, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:27:50):
I mean I would say somewhat like that, but I
mean this is where I think it's a little bit different. Man.
When Tom Brady was thirty years old, the Patriots were undefeated. Like,
it's hard to kind of quantify how big of a
disappointment this is. Like, if every player was available in
the National Football League in a draft, you would take
Patrick Mahomes the number one overall pick. I think he's
the best player. I think he's the best quarterback. I
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think he's the most important player in the league. For
you to outright and potentially miss the postseason with him
being healthy and available all year is unacceptable. If he different.
If Mahomes got hurt in Week three, he came to
see he played with a backup quarterback all season, and
with six and six you kind of use that as
a oh, well, they don't have their quarterback. Then they've
been healthy. Really, up until the last two weeks, this
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has been a healthy team and they just can't get going.
It's kind of one step forward, two steps back. It's
been like that all season.
Speaker 2 (02:28:40):
Travis Kelsey has been a problem for the Texans defense
in the past, but I mean you talked about this
sid Sexans defense that's playing as good as anybody right now.
Can he still be that guy on Sunday Night against them?
Speaker 7 (02:28:51):
Yeah, one hundred percent. Man. I give Kelsey a lot
of credit. You know, Kelsey at the very beginning of
the season just kind of talked about, you know, I
was kind of distracted. I'm doing that, I'm doing that,
and I kind of let the you know, I let
the main thing not be the main thing. I give
Kelsey a lot of credit for kind of rededicating himself,
really getting his body right, and having an explosive year.
I mean, Kelsey last year averaged eight point nine yards
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per catch. That's terrible. He's at twelve this season, so
you just want to talk about a big jump, just
a much more explosive a healthier player, a better player.
I mean, I'm at the point where I'm not one
hundred percent sure if Kelsey retires at the end of
the season. I think he's going to retire at the
end of season, but he's still playing a high level.
I think he has the support of his fiance. Say, like,
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I could definitely see us anario on which Kelsey comes
back on a one year deal, and it's kind of
the understanding this is the final year of his contract.
It's basically what Jason did. Jason didn't retire at the
end of his first contract. He signed another one and
then it was just kind of clear when Jason I
thought was walking off the field in his last game. Yeah,
Jason's about to retire.
Speaker 4 (02:29:53):
For the defensive side of things, you know, I truly
believe when he's as peak the best defensive pass rushing
defense tackle on the NFL's christ Jianes. This past season,
he has three sacks and they haven't come in back
back games.
Speaker 3 (02:30:05):
What's the missing element there?
Speaker 4 (02:30:06):
And is he somebody who has regressed enough with this
new contract where you're wondering what does the future entail
with him long term out in Kansas City.
Speaker 5 (02:30:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:30:15):
I'm just the believer that your window is never open
as long as you think it is. In the NFL.
So like, if you're a team like the Lions, for example,
and the Lions probably thought they had a three four
year run, Nope, it was a two year run. You
had your chance at the NFC Championship game. You had
the one seed. You're done. I think a lot of
times with these contracts, you're thinking, oh, well, we got
three four guaranteed years. No, man, you really got two.
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Where I just think if you want to look at
as a kind of what I mentioned in the very
very beginning, what's gone wrong with the Chiefs. Man, If
you're leading sack guy has five and we're at December,
your pass rush is a problem. Chris Jones is number
two of the team you just mentioned it. He has three.
They had a player Mike Dana. He's on the defensive line.
Three years, twenty four million dollars. He has four tackles
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this year in one sack. Like that's where this defense
has really really underperformed. And again I don't really care
who you are. I don't care how good your defensive
coordinator is. If you can't get pressure with your front four,
everything else in your defense breaks down.
Speaker 2 (02:31:13):
Texans have some vertical threats in Nico Collins and looks
like they're trying to get Jayden Higgins there. And I
see that the Chiefs questionable on Brian Cook and also
Chris Roland Wallace. How do you think that secondary is
going to stack up against this Texans offense.
Speaker 7 (02:31:30):
Yeah, they certainly got enough options, I think. Aside from that,
I mean, they struggle against the Cowboys, but the Cowboys
probably have two of the top five receivers in the league.
The secondary just really isn't the problem with them. It's
kind of been kind of a pick your own poison.
As I just mentioned, they don't get pressure with their
front four, so it just kind of creates scenarios where
the Chiefs felt like they got a blitz. They gotta
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sim five, they got us in six, they got us
in seven, and it puts those receivers on island. Like
I like Nico Collins to have a big catch in
this game. For those of the gamble out there, I
take a deco Collins over longest reception in this game
and just him having one big play down the field.
I really like this Texans team. I kind of run
into this. You guys probably run into this as well.
I feel like nobody likes anybody in the AFC, and
(02:32:13):
we just find reasons to poke holes in Denver or
New England or Indianapolis. Well, somebody has to go to
the Super Bowl from the AFC. It's not gonna be
two NFC team. So you got to pick the team
in the AFC that you like, what can they do consistently?
And I like C J. Stroud. I think you got
a young developing running back in Woodie Barts. I think
they got the best defense of the AFC. Like, this
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is a Texans team that if you can get through
this game on the road against Kansas City after winning
in Indianapolis, you just can't tell me that that defense
can't translate and they can't go anywhere and win in January.
Speaker 4 (02:32:44):
So now, guys, just remind yourself. You can go to
ATC dot Harrison on Twitter, and then when the Houston
Texans don't make the Super Bowl this year, you can
blame car Carrington Harrison for all that exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:32:55):
Don't do that, the man, what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (02:32:56):
Cardton Harrison from ninety six to five, the fan in
Kansas City. Carrington, thanks again for joining us today and
congratulations on the new guy coming from college station back
to Manhattan.
Speaker 7 (02:33:08):
Yeah, of course, man, I appreciate you guys, thanks for
having me on today.
Speaker 2 (02:33:10):
I appreciate Carrington Harrison again from ninety six to five
up there in Kansas City. So I mean something I
think to chew On that he just talked about right there,
that we'll do here on the other side. And then
I got a couple of other little interesting ones. Is
one of them a drunken ran page by something you
wouldn't expect. Notice I didn't say a human And also
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a relationship no no, that I think was just committed.
We'll do all of that here before we hand it
off to the Matt Thomas Show with Ross here on
your home of the Astros and the Rockets.
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Speaker 1 (02:35:03):
Back to Danny cole As the morning Drive.
Speaker 2 (02:35:06):
Cruise is on, like it just feels like either through
injuries or just the Chiefs not being able to get
out of their own way, like this is one that
the Texans play again. Capable offense and keep playing the
defense that you're playing. I could see twenty seven to seventeen.
Speaker 4 (02:35:24):
I'm gonna give you twenty hours to think about this,
and we're gonna come back tomorrow and you're gonna have
an opportunity to answer this question for me and you too.
Seven ninety. The Texans always get the guaranteed win. They
always find a way to get that signature moment. They
feel like that they've taken this step forward. Late in
the season, they find a way to ruin all the
good mojo by losing to a bad team. Next two
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weeks after this, Cardinals Raiders. I feel confident about the Texans.
I also feel confident that, as of what I've seen
for now, Jacoby Verser, Gino Smith's gonna have a career day.
Speaker 2 (02:35:56):
Well, we don't call you long teas for for nothing,
Cole Thompson. So that's that's a long tease right there.
Speaker 3 (02:36:01):
It's a good way to make you think about it.
Speaker 2 (02:36:03):
So let it stew. Let it up there, all right?
Relationship no no, or a drunken non person. What do
you want to go with first?
Speaker 3 (02:36:13):
Oh, I thought this was a game.
Speaker 4 (02:36:15):
I always like hearing about the sad sack first, So
let's go with that relationship.
Speaker 2 (02:36:19):
Relationship no no, So Clay Thompson and Megan the Stallion
have been a thing. And apparently Megan cooked up Thanksgiving
dinner for the Thompson family and she really put her
heart into it, like she well, I mean, look.
Speaker 3 (02:36:32):
You know, let's see.
Speaker 2 (02:36:32):
I think her thought process was the quickest way to
someone's hardest through their stomach, which she's right about that.
But this is where things kind of start to get
off the tracks. Is Clay's got a boat, and Clay
has renamed it SS Stallion, Houston, Texas. There's a few
things in relationships that usually do not end well. Naming
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boats after them, tattooing each other's names, or even like
somebody else I knew where in lieu of wedding rings,
they tattooed their wedding ring on each of them.
Speaker 3 (02:37:06):
I've seen the initial I haven't seen that. And then
they got divorced.
Speaker 4 (02:37:09):
Yeah, it's just gonna be a pain, and they asked
to go ahead and get it removed later on.
Speaker 2 (02:37:12):
Just I'm just saying that, like, you know, like, look,
I understand that things like seem like they're sure things,
but when it comes to relationships, there's no sure things.
Speaker 3 (02:37:21):
I just understand will change. Times change, it all changes.
Speaker 4 (02:37:24):
I just understand why you got to bring Houston into
your messy relationship, Clay.
Speaker 2 (02:37:27):
You know, it's just you got to you gotta have
it like you know, the the slip where where where
it's two.
Speaker 4 (02:37:33):
No, just just you're not from here. I don't care
if she's a part of your life. I don't care
if she's from here. Keep Houston, ouvitgue And we don't
like you either, I.
Speaker 3 (02:37:41):
Say, we don't like you for too reies.
Speaker 4 (02:37:42):
And you played in Golden State and you were killing
for us, and then you went to Dallas of all places,
and you suck there.
Speaker 2 (02:37:48):
That that you definitely were all right the non person,
because you know, you hear drunken rampage and you hear Ashland,
Virginia in a liquor store ransacked with bottles of booze
all over the ground. So you're thinking, all right, well,
you know somebody tried to get out of here.
Speaker 4 (02:38:04):
Hobo decided to go ahead and break into a family
ome liquor store.
Speaker 2 (02:38:08):
You could say that it was nature's hobo because it
is the naturally masked bandit known as a raccoon. Where
employees get to a liquor store in Ashland, Virginia and
noticed that there were bottles of booze all over the ground,
and then went into the bathroom to find the culprit,
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a drunken raccoon, where as soon as they got inside
the toilet, not the toilet, right next to the toilet,
and the picture that they have is the raccoon with
all four sets of paws spread out on the floor.
And you probably too, if you're the raccoon, it's probably like,
what the hell just happened to me? Like, that's probably
the feeling right there is that the raccoon had, because
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it's not like, you know, animals have an idea of
you know, oh man, I'm gonna really tie one on here.
I sounded really old in saying that, but man, I'm
gonna get after it. Yes, you did sound very old, Yeah,
I did. I fully look at a previous incarnation of
this show. There was a guy that called me a
very basic white guy. I just got to live up
to it every.
Speaker 3 (02:39:09):
Once in a while, Happy Humpedy.
Speaker 2 (02:39:11):
No, it's not all right, and hopefully Rocky the raccoon
is fine. One of our dogs once got drunk on
Christmas Eve.
Speaker 3 (02:39:18):
How'd that go?
Speaker 7 (02:39:19):
Well?
Speaker 2 (02:39:20):
She got up on the table and ate cinnamon rolls
that had not risen yet in the East, turned to
alcohols and then we had to take her to you know,
the animal hospital. And I mean we had a good
explanation for what happened, and they were like, oh, yeah, yeah,
we see it.
Speaker 3 (02:39:34):
Yeah, this happens all the time.
Speaker 4 (02:39:35):
One of my friends buddies dogs, decided to go ahead
and have a couple of month shies because of there
were some pnimals that were laying around them were not
necessary to be out.
Speaker 2 (02:39:42):
Gotta be careful, I gotta watch out for the four
legged friends, all right. Cole Thompson, appreciate you, buddy Triple
Emmanuel Elmore always appreciated both of you.
Speaker 3 (02:39:51):
Always appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (02:39:52):
I'm Dan Matthews Matt Thomas Show with Ross coming up next.
Speaker 3 (02:39:55):
We will talk to you in twenty hours.
This is the Morning Drive with Dadd and Cole.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Let's start it off here, Cole with the first thing
that I mentioned there, because I mean, I know that
a lot of people are gonna say, well, wait a minute,
college football. You know, we like it around here, we
don't love it. But I mean I also would say,
I mean yesterday the conversation we had about Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I mean, yeah, there's plenty of.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
People that definitely care a good amount about college football,
and the rankings usually will get people fired up as
you get texting and m dropping the number seven Texas
in at thirteen, and how about the Kougs going in
the bowl season number twenty one, So a possibility of
a top twenty finish in the very first second season
(00:51):
for Willie Fritz over at U of.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
H, who says that we don't talk about the Creigers
on this channel, who says that we don't talk about
oh you get those two?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Of course I do. Everyone gets them to get them.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Look, I would love to talk about them even more
if they were ten and two. Hell, if they handled
business against West Virginia and TCU, well, we would have
been talking a lot more about them, and we still will.
But I mean, you know, I mean, they're nine and three,
they're twenty one. It's nice, very nice. Hopefully it's a
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jumping off point for Willie Fritz.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
They're gonna finish off as the number four team in
the Big twelve, which is also kind of moronic because
let me explain. You know, you know who's right ahead
of them, right Arizona, you know, as you know, as
a head head win over Arizona East Carriers. So sorry,
just want to go ahead and say if we're gonna
respect head to heads, which we clearly don't because Miami
somehow is still behind Notre Dame. I guess it's only
(01:43):
fair that we just say a Big twelve losers who
aren't going to Arlington this weekend. It's fine, nobody's care. Yeah,
I care, I care about that stuff. Be better, honey,
Why am I asking to be better? You say the
dumbest things possible every single Tuesday night. You make moronic,
takes every opportunity that you get. It's clear is say
that you have no idea what you're doing when it
comes to running the college football playoff community and running
(02:04):
the college football playoff standings. But how let's just go
ahead to make six seven jokes. Why don't we Well,
I'm very passionate about this.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
If you can't tell me yes, yes, yes, no, and
we can use that, that's very good. But I mean, Cole,
I've also told you numerous times that I lost getting
angry and annoyed about it a long time ago because
a buddy of mine pointed this out to me, and
I've had the mindset ever since it's a TV show.
You need to remember that it's a TV show.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Oh really it is.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I couldn't tell because I just realized I forgot that
BYU that just saw its head coach say Penn State, Thanks,
but no thanks, I'm gonna stick around here.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
They have to win to guarantee their spot in.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Meanwhile, Miami that has a head to head wind over
the Golden Domers, they have to pray for a miracle
to guarantee their spot in.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Well, we'll definitely I get into that part of it too,
because it's even a little bit of desperation setting in
for Miami's case, not from Miami, it's from somebody else,
and we'll talk about that. But as I mentioned A
and M at number seven, So look, you don't get
the win over Texas and you don't finish the regular
season undefeated. And I've had Aggie fans say, you know, hey,
(03:15):
you know college football playoff like like trying to like
rationalize it to themselves, and look, you know what, I
hate it doing caveats. I am going to pick an
old wound here. Okay, I'll just go ahead and be
honest like that burns you that if you're an Aggie fan,
that has to burn you.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I understand what you say.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
But undefeated and beating them in without a shadow of
a doubt, knocking them out of the conversation. I mean,
that would have been the icing on the cake for everything,
having gone through a special season where you ran the
table from beginning to end undefeated and beat some of
your chief rivals along the way to keep.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Them out of it. Yes, it does, it does matter.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Well, here's the thing, Dan, think about this for a
second and seven one three, two, one two five seven nine.
If you want to chim on in on the college
football playoff rankings, where your team is and who you
think there's to be on out, think about Oklahoma for
a second. Oklahoma is gonna go to the playoff this year.
Oklahoma's a lot to go to the playoff. You can't
move them down or penalize them because there's no way
to do so when they don't have a game that
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you can use as a data point. They beat Alabama
on the road, they beat Tennessee on the road, they
beat LSU. They went ten and two with an anemic offense.
You know what you're still gonna have to live with.
Texas went into Dallas. Texas was coming off of one
of its worst losses of the year.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
They beat the crap out of you.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
That stinks. That's what a rivalry is supposed to be.
And for Texas A and M, you're going to the playoff.
But you want to know what Texas can still say
over you. We've been to Atlanta before you. You had
a thirteen year head start. You still haven't been there. Hey,
we've played in a championship game before you. You can't
say that. You haven't been able to say that since
nineteen thirty nine. Hey, we've actually had an opportunity to
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play in the college football playoffs semi finals.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Are you gonna be able to say that?
Speaker 5 (05:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
If you're facing off against an our name, Round one
feels pretty lucky.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
With that standpoint, so of course it bothers them.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
And the other part that really bothers them is that
you're starting to see the wheels kind of fall off
the track for Texas A and M.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I don't know if they're guaranteed to go from being
in the.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
First round by to getting a first round by to
getting a first round.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Win at this point. So everything is falling.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Off the track just a little bit. It's a little funny,
but at the same time it has this thing, oh, yeah,
we're in the playoff, you lost to Texas and now
you're not even hosting a player and now you're not
even getting a first round by because of it.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Congratulations. Well, I mean it's it's not only that.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
And I mean, as you know, a saal Peter Burns
pointed out, and it's valid that I guess, A you know,
not a bad consolation prize is that you get to
open up at Kyle Field, which is a tough place
to play. But I will say this, if chalk somewhat holds,
which it's not you, you're gonna have teams that lose
fall out any of those things. Even though that they
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try to say, oh, you're not penalized for playing conference
championship weekend. Sure, whatever, but they play Notre Dame again,
it's not gonna go well for them.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
No one team right now I think has both sides
of the football figured out. The other team I think
very much needs to fix a lot of open wounds,
and I'm not sure that's gonna be possible by the
time you get to kick off in two weeks.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
You had Trey Wisner run on you. What is Jeremiah
Love going to do to you? And not only that,
I mean we've seen Marcus Freeman, who I think right
now is one of the best coaches in all college football.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I would say top five is fair.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
And I mean you've seen that he is able to
put together solid defensive game plans and he's been doing
that for some time. You better believe that they watched
that Texas game and they said, oh, we get those
guys again.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
That's how we win. And how you win.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
You keep Marcel Reid in the pocket, you make him
throw the football because you take away Casey concepcion. What
does A and M's offense have.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Mario Craver Stilm and the ability to run the football
with guys like Lavian Moss fully back healthy, Amari Daniels
and Rubernowens okay, still was a very good offense.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
But where where was that last week?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I understand you know Le'Veon Moss wasn't there, But where
was that last week?
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Where was that in week two? I mean week three
when they traveled up to south in Indiana. It was
on the field, which is why Marsa Reid threw for
over four hundred yards, which is why he also had
two touchdown passes, and he also ran a touchdown including
the game.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Where did Nike borcature.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I'm just saying, I mean, I just think that A
and M could be in a really bad spot if
you again notre Dame, I don't like your chances, I mean,
anybody else if they somehow are able to I don't know,
move up to which I mean five and six seem
like they're locked in Ole miss who by the way,
was not penalized.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
The actually got rewarded. They moved up.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
So give a lot of crowd to the to the
committee for realizing Lane we don't need him. We're giving
the reward to the kids.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Well, I mean, and now apparently you know the talking
point is that Oh, it's all Charlie Weiss Junior. It's like,
not really, but I understand what you're saying with the
offensive continuity or Charlie wise this year.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Sure, but I.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Mean, don't you think that the guy that was in
the middle of the field probably had a lot of
influence on it.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I think the guy who left his dog in Oxford
probably doesn't everyone to speak about something that's going on
in Oxford right now.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
That would just be my da. He might be the
good guy, though, who knows.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
You know, he'll be the great guy in one story,
he'll be the villain in another story.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
That's just the nature of the business. And that's just
the nature of life.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
When it comes to Texas A and M and Notre
Dame playing against each other, which again Chawk has to
hold that's just priority number one is that it has.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
To stay this way.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
This will be an opportunity for Notre Dame fans to
finally say, you didn't just get lucky. We were able
to come on in there and set the tone, because
what's been the argument for Notre Dame throughout this entire
premise about the Texas A and.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
M loss, the two teams that were the best on
their schedule. They lost to No, No, No.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
It was a fourth down holding call against some defensive
linemen to where Nate Borkashier found his way to the
end zone and a miss pat if they don't miss
the pat and they don't miss the holding call on
the field, which again it's a holding call. But at
this point in the game, sorry, you should not be
giving up forty one points of Texas A and M.
I'm not gonna feel sorry for you. I'm just simply not.
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They're gonna be able to say we handle business. We
came into your house, we dominated, We trusted our run game,
which by the way, they were held to in that
matchup for one hundred and thirty five yards. They give
up two touchdowns, but they went through the year. In
that matchup, CJ. Carr had a day of like over
two hundred and ninety passing yards.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
So you add that in.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Now they get to go into Kylefield and they get
to say, we're the better team. We always were the
better team. You just got lucky against us in Week three.
That's what they can say.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
If that happens well, and then you get to the
Texas side of things, where you know like I said,
they move up to number thirteen. So I mean at
least there's a belief that there's a chance, there's there's
a slight chance for them, because remember the Group of
five champion gets in, So that's gonna be whoever wins
between Tulane and North Texas to be able to get in.
(09:55):
And I mean, if I'm not mistaken, I think even
you and lv's got a shot, and James Madison both
have a shot. Okay, so you've got four teams there
vying for that. You're gonna have one of those teams.
Here's where things really get interesting and Froggy, you have
Duke win the ACC that's going to be a problem.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
That's why I so that you still have UNLV and
JMU have a shot because I can tell you right
now there's a no scenario, no way, no chance that
you will see an eight and five Duke team go
to the College football playoffs. So what you're gonna see
is now we're gonna see the committee unveil their rankings.
The number eleven seed is going to end up being
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a group of five school that's usually reminded the for
the number twelve seed. It's going to end up being
another group of five school in the twelve spot.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
So you're gonna have two group of five teams in.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Meanwhile, b YU eleven and one potentially eleven to two
if they were to lose in Arlington.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
They're out.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Vanderbilt, great season, the best season in program history. They're out, Oh, Miami,
who has a head to head win common opponent, Victory's
over Texas, Notre Dame, and and BYU they're out. At
Texas sitting with three wins in the top ten first time.
It's twenty nineteen, three horrendous losses. They're also out. But
(11:16):
hal jam he's gotta be on in congratulations to future
you a UCLA head coach Bob Chess.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
And the Dukes well, and you know the Texas and
Miami connection here, there is something on that and we
will get into that coming up next. But also too,
we will have Eric at Holmes. We're gonna get into
the Texans and the rest of the NFL. Eric ad
Hoolme NFL dot com. He's going to join us and
then we'll get the chiefs side. We'll go behind enemy
(11:42):
lines here as so we get Carrington Harrison from ninety
six five up there in Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
He's going to join us too.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So we got all of that and you if you
want to get in sub one three two one two
five seven ninety against sub one three two one two
five seven ninety. In terms of the two the schools
that I mentioned, one coach fires a shot and the
other one returns fire. We will discuss right here as
it is the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole. Right
here Sports Talk seven ninety, Dan Matthews, Cole Thompson. This
(12:16):
is the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole. A coach
firing is shot and the other one returning fire. Brad
wants to get us going this morning. Brad, good morning.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Hey, what's up guys. Look I was at the Notre
Dame game. I'm gonna tell you right now. Any and
Neil was dominating them in the first quarter. In second quarter,
I believe they were up twenty eight. You take the
punt block away, A and M might just start really
rolling that game. In this this drink of schedule. Who
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has Notre Dame played after two get two losses? You
put any SEC team in that in their schedulet they
do the same thing.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
They roll people.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Hold up, just I understand that they are. They are
starting to excel. And I understand AM has some running problems,
but I'm gonna tell you right now, if client comes
out and will run our PO, that's why we got
away from that. At Texas we stop running r PO.
And if we get a little avy on Moss Back
it could be at Kyle Field.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
I'll take it.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
I'll take a m all day long. That's just my point.
I mean, what do you think, guys in the head
to head with Miami. If the both committee is not
going to go with the head to head, then I
really don't know what to do anymore. This is getting ridiculous.
I think right now, when it all shakes out, A
and m might move up to six.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
I think that could happen.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
Brod, I really do they listen to this, either move
up to six or drop to eight. I think it
could happen.
Speaker 8 (13:52):
Brown.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I think I'm being honest. I think you want to
stay at seven. I think I feel really good about
where you are at seven.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
That is my two said, yeah, yeah, I'm just saying
just everybody sitting there saying, yeah, we're scared, not we
or anybody, but that they're scared. That that's that's tough.
They could be out. I'm telling you guys, Notre Dame
hadn't played anybody either after after Day Now, I wouldn't
have it.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
No, no, no, he's right, they haven't. They played USC
that was it. That's who they played.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
It's not terrible.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Boys.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
State is a G five program. They're slightly better than
Arkis who's playing for a conference championship.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
At the G five level, who is having an opportunity
to go to the playoff over Texas, Vanderbilt and Utah.
You would take Texas, Vanderbilt or Utah over Boise State?
Speaker 8 (14:40):
Brown?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Am I talking crazy pills here? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I'm taking I'm taking crazy pills or you're taking or
you're taking those things over Boise State.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
If they were going to go to the playoff, Yeah
I would, I would.
Speaker 8 (14:55):
I right.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
I love that LA have a shot at Texas. Again,
don't get me wrong, U, but I just really feel
like that, Like I said, I no one repeat myself.
Notre Dame is yet to play anybody either. And I
know y'all sit there and read the Twitter feed, listen
to everything to Miami, the same common opponent rolled everybody.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
They did it, Yes they did, and we're actually gonna
get to that right now. Appreciate it, buddy.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Appreciate you. Brad Listen, I personally agree with him on
one thing.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
If Colin Klein can get back to running an RPO offense,
and they can actually run the RPO offense, and if
you're able to have a turnover prone game from marsl Reid,
and if you're able to have back Le'vian Moss, and
if you're able to stop all the pass rush, and
if you're able to get a case of concept you
on Sparisal Chee's re turn touchdown and you get a
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healthy Mario Krab and you get healthy this. Yeah, they
can easily beat Notre Dame. Can you catch my drift?
It's all the ands afterwards.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
That doesn't mean.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
By and I also just make this clear, and i'm's
not playing Notre Dame. They're not gonna play Notre Dame
because what's happening is if Alabama is to Alabama will
drop down to ten.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Here's my question, though, I mean, why weren't you able
to do that against Texas? I mean where you don't
even have Anthony Hill for the entire game. You didn't
have to Anthony Smith for the first half, and apparently
you couldn't do it.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Because if Alabama has a Georgia problem, Georgia has I
mean Georgia has an Alabama problem. Alabama has an Oklahoma problem.
Oklahoma has an Old Miss problem. Ole Miss has a
problem with keeping their head coaches around, and Texas has
a Texas A and M problem.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
That's just it. Listen.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Sometimes in life, Dan, there are just people that getting
your way, get under your skin, piss you the hell off,
and they drive you nuts no matter what they do.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
That is the Yankees in Texas A and M. Texas
regular the other way right, go ahead, but like, okay,
the Askers are the three seed. Yankees are the one seed.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I guarantee you ten times out of ten, the Askers
are gonna win that series, guarantee you. After seeing two
years in a row of this where Texas A and
M was supposed to have the bear defense, Texas A
and M was finding an idaddy On offense, Texas A
and M not able to do much when it comes
to the turnovers. They've been really good on that side
of the pall. Everything that worked in favor of Texas
A and M to get to that game at DKR
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undefeated came back and that was the reason they lost,
because Texas figured it out.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
All right, soon as I said shot, return fire, You've
got the shots, and then I've got the return fire.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Here's Steve Sarkshan making a claim on why Texas at
nine and three, nine and three, with losses to Georgia, Florida,
and Ohio State and overtime wins over Kentucky and Mississippi State,
belongs in.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
The playoff over another team.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
And he may or may not have mentioned who this
team is on what they did Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 9 (17:39):
He've played five top ten ranked teams and we've beaten
three of them. There's teams that are ranked in front
of us that haven't played any top ten ranked teams.
And so my point to everybody is, is this about
what your record is at the end, or is this
about beating quality teams and showing how good of a
team you really are by beating quality the teams on
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the field, Or is it don't play good teams, put
up a bunch of yards, put up a bunch of points,
and make it look good, you know, throw throw fade
route touchdowns. With thirty eight seconds to go, when you're
head thirty one to seven, so the score looks better.
So is the committee really watching the games or are
they just looking at a stat sheet at the end
of the game to say, oh, well they won by
this many points.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
They must have played really good. You know, here's a
thing that I go against.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
You know people, well, you know, just don't schedule the
game against Ohio State. I go the complete opposite way.
Win the game at Ohio State. I don't mind you
scheduling the games. And look, I mean, you take a
calculated risks, sometimes you take a calculated loss, and that's
what they did.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
But I mean it's it's.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Really where it all, you know, kind of you know,
falls into place. And even for the resume that you
laid out there, it's not exactly like they were impressive
this last month. They were they I mean, if you
were able to get this early on in the season,
or at least, you know, in the second month of
the season, and then you're having a different conversation right
now because you don't lose that game at Florida. But
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then here's the return fire is one of those programs
he mentioned Miami Mario Christopaul with Kyne's insight. They also
got to say, take a look at the fact of
a common opponent, seeing that we had an opportunity to
really dominate that opponent while that opponent dominated them. He
goes even further and says, Yeah, that's funny because we
had that one common opponent. Florida dominated Texas twenty nine
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to twenty one. The team that we convincingly beat twenty
six to seven. Was this the nineteen eighties. That settles
that debate.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
My entire premise here was STEVEE. Sarcusian is number one.
Commend you.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
I want to commence Stege Arkusian for one thing. He
is doing his job as a politician, promoting his team.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
That's what they head coach of Texas is Mac Brown
did it back in two thousand and eight when they
had the whole Oklahoma got in over them because of
their ranking and all of that kind of stuff. I mean,
you know, he did it. Jimbo did it a few
years ago when a had an opportunity. It's what you're
supposed to do as a head coach of a major program.
I respect that. Here's where I am going to retaliate
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just a little bit. Just let's have a hard heart
freak that could Steve Sarkasian. You talk about how the
committee's only paying attention to the scores of the games,
looking at the stats, sheep, and not actually watching the matchups. Okay,
so let's go back and talk about some of your wins,
shall we Not Not the one against you know, tex
say and m and not the one against you know,
another really high profile team Oklahoma.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
How about the Kentucky win? You ever hear about that
one dan I won sixteen thirteen overtime. Do you know
that Kentucky had nineteen more first downs in Texas? You
know they outgained them a one, I mean three ninety
five to one seventy nine. You know, they had more turnovers,
more penalties, they lost them on possession by nineteen minutes,
and they needed overtime to go up against a team
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that just made a firing of the head coach who
had been there for thirteen years. But hell, hell out,
let's just make sure that we're paying attention to the
wins and not the stats.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Let's go step further. Let's talk about the Missisippi State game.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Uh, you know you need that big eighteen point comeback
in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
You were out gained by fifteen yards.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
You lost the first down battle, you lost the third
down conversions, you lost time possession, You were the more
penalized team, and you needed an eighteen point comeback to
guarantee you got to win in overtime over a team
that finished five and seven, not going to a bowl game.
Mama Bela, let's go a step further, because you want
to talk about great wins the game against Vanderbilt Top
ten Vanderbilt, you want to go ahead and brow that people's.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Faces, Well, you were up by three.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Scores and then proceed to allow Vandy to have more
first downs than you, be better on third down than you,
be better on fourth down than you out gain you
four twenty three, two four twenty eight. You lost the
time of possession battle by three whole minutes.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
You were the more penalized team.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
They outrushed you, they outgained you in yards per pass attempt,
and you had the more turnovers in them.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
And you then said, oh.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Well, that's a quality win, and we allowed Vandy to
kind of push their way acond to.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Kind of strengthen our resume. So if you want to go.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Ahead and call it all these teams and say, oh, well,
you know this strength of your record kind of matters
at this point, and how you look in these matchups
and they're just looking at the statue. Well, I watched
all those games, including your pathetic performance against Kentucky, your
god awful performance against Mississippi State, and I watched this
diego Pavia Newly was able to complete the trifecta of
kicking your butt two.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
So come out here and say that all the time.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Yeah, I understand that you believe that you belong to
the playoff because you have three ranked wins. Brother, also
make sure that you were able to cover the spreading
your two games against teams that aren't going bullying.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Sorry, sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
If you want to play this game because you're not
going to the playoff and you never were going to
the playoff because you have three losses, start acting like Texas,
because acting like Texas means that you're supposed to schedule
games against Ohio State and Michigan because that's what good
teams do. Now, we're just gonna take away the Ohio
Staking because we got we got kicked out of the playoffs,
so we're going to take our ball and go home.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
No, I mean, I again, I think that you take
the calculated risk, and I mean, you know, like I said,
sometimes it comes back to by you.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Sometimes it comes.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Back to you know really you know, not necessarily dingian
in the long run. But I mean, I think in
this case, for everything that you just laid out there,
I mean, that's you know, a case in point why
they're not getting in. I mean, because this was a
team that for much of the season was not a
good football team. Like they weren't, and like we can't
have recency bias just to think that all of a
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sudden because they had a nice little finish to the season.
You know, you beat Vanderbilt, you beat A and M
at the end of the season. That's you know, it
kind of erases everything else that happened in the past.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
It doesn't, Dan, they had three great wins this year.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
They have three top ten wins. I'll die on that take.
They belong in that conversation.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
You know. South Carolina had five ranked wins last year,
including four in the month of four in the month
of November. Oh wait, they were left out of the
playoff for a team that they beat in the ACC
So spare me. That's the problem when you have a
twelve team playoff and you lose three games, there's not
enough seats at the table. You don't have enough seats
at the table. Unfortunately, even if you think you belong,
you quite literally don't because there's other teams out there.
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I were able to win by better margin of victory,
and they were able to accomplish their goals and follow
the criteria of making the playoffs. You were able to
win three really good games and win two crappy games
that you need over time to go ahead and got
as far.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
As I'm concerned, I mean, there's three there's three teams
that are vying for one spot, and then if BYU
is able to beat Texas Tech, which they won't, but
let's just say for the sake of argument, that they were,
then it would be two for one. And probably even
at that point, I think that probably that one gets
in before either of them. B Yu is the only
one that I would say is at the front of
the list right now. Miami is number two, and I
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still check Candle's business, then Miami probably gets in.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I still see a scenario where Miami does get in.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
It's a shot in the dark, but you're really going
to look at the college of Well playoff mee, and
you're going to say we're keeping out a power for
a conference. We're going to keep out a team that
was able to beat up on Notre Dame and have
two G five. There's a way to make this work.
I will explain very soon. Yeah, we'll get back into
that conversation.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
But we do want to hit up some Texans though,
because they made a move yesterday that I think signals
some certainty over there on at Kirby Drive. We will
talk about that and you can jump into its subone
three two one two five seven ninety. Again, it's Someone
three two one two five seven ninety. It is the
Morning Drive, Dan and Cole. Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
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Speaker 3 (25:22):
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Speaker 2 (25:31):
Let's talk some Texans right now. Someone three two one
two five seven ninety. They decided to tell Lake and
Tomlinson your services are no longer needed moving on. It
sounded like, at least from reports and Schefter had it
that they came to a decision which that probably it was, Well,
you're not gonna start anymore, all right, well, then can
you cut me loose? Sure, yeah, we can do that.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
He was worth four point two five million dollars.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
If you was to finish out his contract, he'll go
somewhere around three million dollars. A guy that is going
to be a healthy scratch every single game from here
on outs.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I mean, and that's the thing is, you know, you
lose the starting spot here because I mean, the offensive
line has pretty much gone Erstree at the left, and
you also have Titus Howard over there helping him out
the left guard.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
You got JK.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Andrews at ingram and then also Trent Brown who was
kind of in I guess Tomlinson's position where you brought
him in for a chance and then finally able to
find his way on the field. And at least this
has been a serviceable offensive line, not been great by
any means. But the good news is to me, the certainty,
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Now those are your five guys.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Well, here's the.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Thing, Dan, is that last season it was from offensive line,
cable offensive line on cable offensive line, Please shield your eyes,
offensive line, Holy crapper in the gutter, offensive line. It
can't get much worse offensive line. Oh wait, we're playing
against Kancy Chiefs giving up eight sacks the divisional round.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yes, it can't get worse offensive line. The Texans are
back to being capable.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
I'll take that.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I think everybody in the city after what we have
seen was c. J. Stroud's first two years, really last
season in twenty twenty four. But Chris draussays, the offensive
line coach, you will take a capable line. The starting
five they give you a capable line in order is
Ursery Howard, Andrews, Ingram Brown.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
That's just it. That's how it has to go. So
there was a.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Room for Tomlinson, and more specifically, there needs to be
a reason that he's not brought back to the team. Ever,
what's the reason. Okay, we're just gonna let you go
have fun in your future endeavors. They'll have the door
hitch on the way. I mean, I don't think it
was contentious like that. I think it was just, you know, hey,
you know no longer a spot, you're a veteran guy.
Do you want to go somewhere else?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah? Sure, yeah sure.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
But at the same time, I'm just saying that right now,
Juice Scruggs and Jarrett Parrison have a better shot of
playing than Lincoln Thomlinson for this roster.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Ever, again, even before the release.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Well, and that's the thing is usually on game days,
I mean, you're going you want to go one guy
that can play the interior. You want to go one
guy that you can put on the outside, which in
this case they usually go go three deep in terms
of the bench guys, because you do use Blake Fisher
and let's say that you get an injury to I
don't know, Trent Brown, all right, well then you just
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you know, you sub and Fisher right there.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
It's all good to go.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
But I mean, I think if nothing else, the other
part of the certainty that I really like is that
we don't have the temptation to roll guys anymore. I
will roll defensive lineman. You have to roll defensive line.
You have to this you know it completes. I mean,
just rotation that they had on the offensive line was
one of the dumbest things I think I'd ever seen
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in my life. And again, I mean, there's a reason
why I was bagging on Colepopovich in the early part
of the season. You figure this stuff out in the preseason. Man,
you figure this stuff out during training camp. Once you
get to the season, roll, go go with your guys.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
I will go step further and say, now I feel
really confident because where the New York Giants are, where
the Washing Commanders are, and where you are in the
draft with your first, second and round pickers. Remember you
have the Giants first third round pick, Washington second round pick.
You have a first round pick. Two of those picks
are going to be offensive lineman.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
I just say, I mean, for me, you know where
I was like, this guy's in over his head was
the very first game against the Rams where you move
Erseri from the left to the right, where it's just
like you.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Really don't know what you're doing, do you what Papovich? Yes, okay, yes,
and no. It was his first game as the full
offensive line coach. What the problem was that they went
out and they spent a lot of money on a
guy who could only play left tackle and was never
going to move to right tackle, because the smart thing
would have done is just moved Cam Robinson, who at
that point had become a swing tackle over to the
right side. But they didn't want to do that. Cam
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Robinson has been a left tackle his entire career, from
his time at Alabama to Jacksonville and Minnesota, he had
been a left tackle, so they said, we got to
play him.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
He's going to play left tackle.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
So the problem was is that Nick Cassario went out
and made a signing thinking that he was going to
have to play Cam Robinson as the apparent heir to.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Late Laraimy Tunsel for a year.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Oh no, Arianta Ersrie one practice in is already better
than him on the left side. We gotta play him
at left tackle. Oh crap, we don't have a starting
right guard, I mean right guard, so we got to
move now Titus Howard inside the right guard.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Hey, Cam Robinson, can you play right tackle? Uh?
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Okay, never, I already know the answer that We're gonna
go ahead and move Mary on te or sort of
that side.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
That's what happened.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Well, then you work him at that side, I mean,
that's just it. Whatever side you go in with with
a rookie tackle, that's where you go. But the problem
was better or worse, that's where that's where you go.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
But they worked on the left side, and then the
problem was they didn't worry about the situation coming on up.
Then at Ingram gets hurt and they had to move
Titus Howard into right guard.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
I saw it happen in Atlanta with Jake Matthews.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
They had him working at the right side, and then
once you had an injury to their left tackle.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
It happened here in Houston.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
As a matter of fact, in the preseason game, they're like, hey,
come Onday, you're a left tackle, so get your mind
right and get ready for that right But that's in
the preseason. They're doing that. That's capable coaching.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
But what they should have done is they should have said, hey,
we know that ariontay Erstrie is going to be our
franchise left tackle, or at least he's gonna get a shot.
You're trying to make the roster still and have a
big time role for us. You're gonna learn how to
play right tackle. And they didn't want to do that
because they respected the fact that Cam Robinson was a
veteran and ariontay Erschie had yet to play a professional
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stat with where the moments minutes counted. That was it,
and it ended up biting them in the ass.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
It did.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
That was just the bottom line and guess what happened
the next week? Oh, we can't do this again, Ariante,
You're going back to left tackle.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Let's keep it going with the Texans conversation because they
seem like they're putting in the work.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Now hopefully it pays off down the road.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
We'll discuss what exactly we're talking about right here on
the Morning Drive and Stanning Cole Sports Talk seven to ninety.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Back to Cole as the Morning Drive Cruise is on.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Kim Bay was a great I think the best one
they've They've had some good ones. They've had some good ones.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Are they?
Speaker 4 (31:54):
I'm gonna die on this take, dude. I think the
two thousands had the best commercials of all time. Now,
they had some good ones the two thousands, e Tripoli.
Do you remember growing up and like seeing like stuff
on like Nickelodeon or cartoon networking like to be the
dumbest commercials that would make you belly laugh vividly? Do
you not remember like the Star Wars Commerce the Star
Wars commercials for like berries and cream?
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Do you remember that one? The little lottery who loves
berries and cream? Oh? My god, I could do a
whole segment on nineties and two thousands commercials. Sure the
audience would love that.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
I'm sure that they would seven one, seven ninety What
is your favorite nineties commercial? Two thousands commercial that made
you belly laugh? Because I got a ton of them.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Well, we're in twenty twenty five and today in twenty
twenty five, the no, not the cheese, It's commercial.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
I woke up feeling the cheesiest coach. I hate that.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
No, I love that commercial. You're not you're not going
to take me off of that one. I'm okay, we're
not taking you off of that one.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
I think that it needs to burn in the into
the seventh layer of hell at this point.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
One of my favorite ones they had was, you know
a few years ago during college football season, dose ekis
and at Steve Spurrier and he's.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Like, that's my beer. I remember that one.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Oh they're so good. He's getting carried off the field. Okay,
now remember I got one.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
I got my master with my with my bottle opener
on it. I thought that was bud Light. I think
it was Do Do Seki's.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
And then he points up to the coaches up there
and they've got the beer taps.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
He's like, that's my beer. Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
So speaking of beer taps, how many beers are you
gonna have on Sunday night when the Texans play the Chiefs.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
None?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Because I mean, it's a it's a show the next day.
If I drink, if I drink before a show, it's
it's it's grogginess the next day.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
I can't have that. That's sir enough.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, so I'll probably be doing it on college Football Saturday.
But anyway, the Texans gonna get back to work on
the practice field, getting ready for the Chiefs on Sunday.
Rockets home tonight for the Sacramento Kings. Six o'clock Rockets
launch pack coming your way. College Football playoff rankings A
and M at number seven, Texas at thirteen. You of
aged jumping back in at number twenty one, But we're
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talking Texans right now because as I mentioned, the future,
preparing it for now and right now doing that, or
it's probably the other way around, but you get the point.
Jayden Higgins all of a sudden becoming a massive part
of this offense where you've seen his targets go up
massively over the last few weeks, and funny enough, it's
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been wins in the last few weeks. Seven targets for
five catches against Jacksonville, seven for four against Tennessee, nine
for four against Buffalo, and then a perfect five for
five last weekend, where the Texans have looked at it,
and I mean, it's very easy to see who the
offensive targets are at this moment. It's Nico Collins number one,
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Dalton Schultz number two, and Jayden Higgins finding his way
at number three. But Higgins, now, I think at least
if nothing else, they're trying to signal to you, no,
that's our number two, that's our guy.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
They would like to, I think, get targets away from
Dalton Schultz. Not because of they don't think the Dalton
Schultz is a good open receiver. He's more of a
security blanket. If you want to take a shot downfield,
you want to get first downs, you want twelve, fifteen
to eighteen, you gotta find eighty one to twelve. That's
just kind of where you are. You get want six
or seven, You go eighty six across the middle of the field,
or you go out the backfield of what he marks,
and both they're fine. The other thing that's really important here,
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Dan is in the last five games you've either seen
Jaden Higgins finished with over forty receiving yards or a touchdown.
So again you're getting either the targets or you're getting
the points.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Well, I mean, I think if nothing else, you want
the certainty at this point.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
And it's not just this season.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
That's why I'm saying the future too, because next season,
where you know that you can count on Nico Collins,
that's not gonna be an issue. You want to be
able to count on Jayden and Higgins. And the other
part of this is that you would say, well, yeah,
Tank Dell comes back, that's the hope, because when Tank
Dell comes back, I don't know what Tank Dell is.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
No, tank Dell comes back, that's all you say. He
comes back.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
You're not saying, well, he comes back and he's the
same version. So no, he just comes back to the
football field.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
What I'll tell you right now, Dan, is the reason
that you want to get into more involved. What's been
the whole conversation this year offensive line? Offensive line? Offensive line?
Is offensive line good? Are they able to go and
protect CJ. Stroud? Well, you had the twenty fifth overall pick,
and Josh Simmons from Ohio State was available, and Josh
Connerley from Morgan was available, and you traded away to
go get let Jackson dart ruin his career up in
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New York. But then you had to pick at thirty
four and you said, okay, we need offensive line help.
Let's go draft a receiver. This is the receiver. So
your first overall pick you want to see have success.
And so far, for the most part in the Demico
I mean in the nic Cassio era, while he is
really good at finding day three selec I mean day
two selections, in round three, his first pick usually also
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seems to.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Hit well, and I mean he's hit.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
I think we could say that for the most part,
Urseri has has at least had a good start to
his career. Has he had rough moments of line to
take a while to I would say that probably the
picks that are always the riskiest to make our offensive
line and corner and namely left tackle offensive line, because
that's the if you're drafting high up, chances are that
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you're drafting a guy that's going to be your future
left tackle. You're not in a position at least the
Texans weren't to say, hey, let's go do the Quintin
Nelson thing. Let's get a really good guard. You just
weren't there. Now Now maybe this year they will be.
I could see it this year that you get to
the draft process and say that you know, even though
he doesn't do best player available, don't even know what
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that means, right, But I mean, maybe they do really
value a guy that can play offensive guard and that
you feel like, all right, that's our guy.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Just make sure that you draft the right one and
don't pass on an all Pro safety or an All
Pro center that now play in Baltimore and are a
big reason why they're going to be a playoff team
for you in a year out. But I mean, at
least what you now, I mean, you got the two
time All America for text saying them, so the all
grown talent guys.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Here's the good news in the immediate for you is
that you at least have options now because you've created it,
and you know, I'm taking Nico Collins out of this.
You've created it with Jayden Higgins, You've got it with
Dalton Schultz. You also have it to some degree with
Xavier Hutchinson. I mean, a guy that I think has
been incredibly serviceable for you and even at some points
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you know you can throw in Christian Kirk. I mean
he had a nice game against Buffalo. Not heard from
as much here in the last game, but still somebody
that you can count on, even out of the backfield.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I mean, here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
As much as they're using Woody Marx in the run game,
they're doing what I was like, you need to do
this with Woody Marx, and that is keep him in
that fifteen to twenty touch range because you feel like
if you get into that twenty five. We've even seen
him at periods of time leave games with some sort
of injury and luckily he's able to, you know, shake
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it out on the sidelines and work his way back
out there. But I think that even that probably scares
them off of overusing Woody Marks and especially using him
in the pass game.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
He's only had one time this year more than twenty
two targets in a game in some capacity, whether it
be as a receiving threat or as a rushing threat.
Last he had nineteen rushes, he had one catch and
one target, so twenty plays I agree with you. I
think that twenty is fine. I would probably say you
want to go to twenty two. Jalen Knowle's the one
that I still feel like I am the most confident
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in if you gave him the reps, he could blossom
into something really prominent. And maybe that was just my
bias coming on in because I really like this tape
coming out of Iowa State. I thought that Jayden Higginson's
some limitations, but I still am ready to see what
you're gonna get from fourteen outside of special teams, because
he's really good in that standpoint.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
And there's been moments this year. I mean, remember back in.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
The Seattle game, how many big explosive catches downfield we
saw Noel make place. And then we've seen it before
in the Jacksonville game, but we saw it in the
Denver game, like he's had his burst. I think it
just comes to a point of where we got to
see what the two Iowa state wide receivers and their
long lost brother who was two years older than them
can do if they don't have a Nico Collins out there.
Because you are right about one thing at this point
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in Nico Collins' career. We are just waiting for him
to have an injury in miss two or three games.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
That's getting a little bit of Astros because a move
made signals a clearly defined goal this offseason.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
We will discuss right here.
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Speaker 2 (40:40):
Adding free agent Ryan Weiss, who had starred in the
KBO Korean Baseball Organization three sixteen era his last couple
of years there, and they add him along with other
moves that they've made this offseason, where I mean, we
already had a good idea coming into this how the
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Astros were going to go about the off season. As
Nate Pearson was the other guy that they added on
a one year deal, trying to convert him into a
starting pitcher. I mean, if nothing else, I would say
that the thing that Dana Brown gleaned the most from
the twenty twenty five season was we can't run out
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of pitching whatsoever at any time ever. If anything, we
need to try to have an embarrassment of riches, which
pitching is a lot like defensive lineman and football. You
can never have enough. There's not a single coach out
there that says, damn, I got too many defensive linemen.
What are we gonna do with all of these guys?
At least good ones? And you want to have as
many good pitchers as possible, and even some guys that
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you get to a point where are like, hey, you know,
either through a trade possibility or even guys that can
shuttle back and forth. That's what we want to have
and that's what this move was yesterday for Weiss. I mean,
it's very much a get him the spring training and
Joe A. Spotta likes to use the beginning of spring
training for that very thing of allow for guys to
be able to earn roles.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
And that's what you're going to try to do with
this guy.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
You're going to allow for him to try to earn
a role and maybe he can kind of slide into
that aj blue ball role that you had last year
where Caleb Ord kind of had it for a little bit,
where philm Aton for a time had it, and that's
the long relief guy. And every once in a while,
if you want to skip a start, maybe go bullpen game.
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He can be your opener, give you two or three
innings and you feel good with that. But that's probably
where this guy is going to is going to settle
in when it's all said and done with the shows.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Well, at least it just gives you options to feel
pretty confident in going into the offseason. You don't have
to overspend on certain pitchers or give up too much
when it comes to traits.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
So you know, you look at his numbers.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
When he was in the KBO League last season, he
had a two twenty one and ten record. He was
a three one six ERA and forty six starts, two
seven eighty RA last season in one hundred and seventy
innings pitch with Hanawa. So again, is it gonna translate,
I don't know. But the beauty about what I will
say with Dana Brown and what I will say about
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this Astros organization Number one, they do an exceptional job
at the Triple A, Double A level getting pitchers prepared
for the major leagues. Number two, they always feel like
that the arms are staying healthy in terms of wherever
you were able to move on up the competition's not
too heavy for you. And number three, diamond's in the
rough is just what you see Dana Brown, Do I mean,
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did anybody think that not only Caleb or how about
Steven Oker, like Steven Okert Scott Scott was being one
Chase Alexander even first standpoint for eighteen.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
Games, really good eighteen games.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
So it's like, I trust that there's enough on Ryan
wise that we saw from Dana Brown's perspective to where
he looked up and down and said, don't have your starter,
don't have your long term reliever. Don't know if you're
gonna be in Triple A, but at least I'm giving
myself options to where, hey, they want this for Pablo Lopez,
they want this Sandi al contram I don't want to
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give that up.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
I got this, kidd and set.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
I feel much better about what he's going to give
me for one year than what I'm going to lose
in the process to bring in a guy who am
paying a lot more money to Is he even gonna
pan on how for me?
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Well, and you know I was watching last night our
good buddy Josh La Desma Apollo Media talking about it.
He has a buddy that's been in the KBO and
he was like, hey, what do you know about this guy?
Ninety three to ninety six on the fastball, slider sweeper
guy also too, So I mean, somebody that fits right
in with what the Astros like to.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Have out of their pictures.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
But Chandler Rome, you know, throwing up the story about
this with Weiss saying the Astros are not done addressing
the rotation. But as mentioned here, multiple sources continue to
reiterate that acquiring a starter via trade is far more
likely than spending one on free agency. I think that
that's the other, you know, plan of this offseason is
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if you're thinking, like, for example, we just saw Dylan
sees sure, and I think that Astros fans across the board,
once they saw what Dylan signed for over the weekend,
they were like, yeah, you were never you were never
going to be in that market.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
You would be lucky to get a one year, thirty
million dollars. And that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
I mean, if you can get something done for about
three with maybe an option for a fourth or two
for a three. Would you still do thirty million? I
don't think that they're going to wade into that water
you have to take. You have to keep in mind
how the Astros structure their deals. Sure is that the
high money for the most part is in that twenty
to twenty five range, and a lot of that too.
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I mean, you know, just knowing where Dana came from
and knowing how that organization does their business is the
same way the Braves do their business. Is that Alex
Anthropolos even said it to us when I when I
was there, he even said it. He goes, if we
got about seven to eight guys earning twenty to twenty
five million, we feel like that is far more valuable
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than going and getting the thirty five forty million dollar
guy and then having to kind of supplement from there.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
But to me, what I look at and it's not
a shot again at Nash out of that. You know, Dana,
create your own legacy, create your own narrative to be
able to make it work. And let's just be real.
The Astros had a way of making it work before
with Jeff Luno. But James click Alexanthopolis has one title
for the Atlanta Braves, where they had to change a
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lot of things after the Biby Cox era, they regressed entirely,
and still so far they've been able to say they've
been to one World Series. The AS's gonnay, they've been
in multiple by spending that type of money. So I'm
not pushing back on it. What I'm pushing back on
is if it's a five million dollar disagreement on a
three year deal, because many people thought that we were
gonna see thirty million dollars for Dylancs no matter what.
But it'd be three years with the fourth year option
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like you said, says seven. If it's a five million
dollar difference, dude, I'm all fine with not paying Dylan
Cease that I am here. Here's where the flexibility I
think comes in. And that's why I think trade. You know,
and we've heard that controllable starter. Of course, who who
doesn't want a controllable starter? It's just like you know,
call we had last week of you know, hey, center
fielder hits twenty five home runs?
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Great, where do you find them?
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Because I think that all thirty teams would love to
have that guy they don't just grow. You're usually either
in that in that scenario you're going defense or you're
going offense and taking a little bit on the defensive end.
But in this case, I mean, if you are able
to get a controllable starter through the trade, well.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Then all of a sudden, maybe that does for.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
You up a little bit more to spend on, say
going after a prime outfield bat to be able to
stabilize that part of your team in field. It seems
like you're pretty locked up right now. And then catcher,
I guess it's just do you want Jiner Diaz for
your future or do you want to go elsewhere.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
Well, if you're trading away yanor Diaz, that means that
I got to bring in two catchers because of Walker
Yannix not gonna be ready week one. And at the
same time, you probably are not gonna be able to
trade for a catcher because if they know that you're
desperate for a catcher, which means they'll bend you over
barrel and ask for things that you can't ask that
you can't give up.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
So it's like with.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
The names you can go after for catcher, Victor Karattini
being one is the other one, Shona Hine, is that
one that you're okay with? And do you want them
to be a rotating option or do you want to
have one stable guy and then a dude that's filling
in every fourth day, every fifth day. And it can
be really good when it comes to lefties or a
certain position.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Patrick Charrecty, here's I mean again the Atlantic connection.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
What about Sean Murphy? Okay, I don't think they're gonna
trade him.
Speaker 4 (48:20):
That's the problem is that I get that you have
Drake Baldwin, and Drake Baldwin is the future of that
organization very clear as today? I just ie money, guy,
Do you want to pay that money though for a
dude who's losing a lot offensively over the last year
and a half, when you already have a guy that's
losing a lot offensively over the last year, that you
have him under roster control, team control, and more specifically
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on a much more cheaper contract with a new hitting
coach coming on in that maybe can work out the
kinks and get back.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Now, I'm not asking for that to happen, but I'm
just saying, you know, just the possible options that are
out there, because I do think that with Jiner. My
gut tells me that he is here because I think
that you want to see how does he work with Victoryriguez?
Is he able to work with him on a little
bit more zone discipline and able to get him back
to being the hitter that he is, Because we've seen
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when Yiner is Jiner. He's one of the best offensive
catchers in the game right and I think he's gotten
better defensively.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
So if that part of his game doesn't change, you're
looking at a top seven, top eight catcher in the
industry right now, who's on a very good team control contract.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
But I do think that you need to have an
insurance play in the place. Now.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
Is that insurance plan going to be Victor Karattini? Is
it gonna be Jonah Him? Is it gonna be you
go after like a guy such as Joey Bart Like?
Are those options that you can look into because you
need to have a secondary option that isn't also pushing
Yainu Diaz out the door entirely, but pushing him to
be better and have better played discipline.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
Part would be somebody to think about. Now.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
I mean, you know, right handed probably not going his direction,
but I mean, you know, you look at a guy
like Jonah Him, I mean, you're not gonna get a ton,
you know with the average with him, but the power
is there. Yeah, and obviously somebody too that if you
lose Keratini, maybe you lose a little bit of that part,
but you also gain a guy that I mean, look,
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if you feel like that, you don't like what you're
getting out of Jiner as a starting catcher, well then
you got a guy that's got plenty of it and
a World series ring.
Speaker 4 (50:15):
My big problem when it comes to Jonah Him is
that I think defensively he's fine. Fine is a good word.
I think offensively, swinging miss rate is just as bad
as Jiner's. He strikes out more, he's gonna get more
home runs. Okay, so the difference is is that Yiner
has to be in the six hole in the lineup
and Jonah High can be in the eight.
Speaker 3 (50:33):
Hole in the lineup.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
Then you're really not asking for much more other than
one less played appearance per game. But you're still gonna
get the strikeouts, You're still gonna get the swing and
miss rate. You're still not gonna get a lot of singles.
You're gonna get a lot of homers and extra base hits,
and that's it.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
I would say that in you know, I had somebody
else yesterday. Man, it's been quiet for the Astros this offseason.
I said, just wait till next weeks. That's when things
are gonna start to fire up, because you're gonna get
the league meetings happening. Well, like, it's been quiet, I
think on the majors it has been, But I mean
I think that it's also too where you know, again
you see see signing somewhere else. You see Devin Williams
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a couple of days ago with the Mets. So I mean,
at least some moves are starting to happen, but usually
that's when it really starts to get the snowball rolling.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
Do you think that the Astros will make a trade
first or a signing first for a position player?
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Trade would be the wish I think that they would have.
I think that if you get the trade, then the
options are open to you to say, all right, do
we have a little bit more to spend on an
outfield bat? Do we have a little bit more too,
I don't know, go out and get a starting pitcher
if that's what we want.
Speaker 4 (51:37):
To do to be able to add two guys this offseason.
I'm going to die on the zach Eflin to Houston train.
That is the one parameter I want Dana Brown to make.
I will buy a zach Eflin jersey the second that
he signs here, and I will wear it on the
day on this show that he comes into.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
Huge Well, I mean, and that's the thing is I
mean the controllable starter. I mean, if we're talking Sandy
al Contra, your guy Pablo Lopez, then the yeah, I
think that absolutely is a possibility for you, because then
at that point, you're not trying to find somebody that's
going to be front of the rotation guy. You're trying
to find somebody that's a four or five for you,
and you're looking for a one year contract.
Speaker 4 (52:11):
That is somebody who's been in the major's been in
high pressure situations that wants to reset their market.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
We've also been warned before too that for some of
you that were ready for, you know, the the Verlander
to Houston talk to stop, I mean it's kind of
slowed down a little bit.
Speaker 3 (52:26):
Haven't heard it much lately.
Speaker 4 (52:27):
Yeah, to me, it is everything with Verlanders slowed down
like not only his velocity, not only his strikeout rate,
not only his innings pitched. Everything is slowed down, including
the toxic him come back Houston or playing next season.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
Well, is somebody that could have been an Astro It
turns out would have fit in with us. After all.
We'll discuss that right here and let you hear exactly
who we're talking about here on the other side, as
it is the Morning Drive with Dan Matthews Cole Thompson
hanging out with you right here on a Wednesday, Sports
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Speaker 1 (52:57):
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Speaker 2 (53:08):
Talking Astros. A little bit more here someone three two
one two five seven ninety is the number two get in.
Sonny Gray was somebody that was a possibility for the
Astros this offseason, and of course traded from Saint Louis
to the Red Sox and of course you know after
a trade signing whatever you know it used to be.
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And this is one of the good things that we
got out of COVID is you know how like the
a meeting that could have been an email and you know,
now it's a press conference, that could just be a zoom.
Now they pretty much just refer to I mean, if
it's if it's a huge name, like last off season
when the Astros signed Christian Walker, well then you know
you want to do the press conference. You want to
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do the grip and grin with you know, put the
jersey on over the over the shirt and tie and
you know, put the hat on, all that kind of stuff.
But the Red Sox decided to do a zoom was
Sunny Gray. He was asked about coming over to the
Red Sox, and let's just say that not only did
he endear himself to the fans there, but he also
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in the process took a massive shot at a hated
Astro's rival.
Speaker 7 (54:14):
Say, what did.
Speaker 10 (54:14):
Factor into my decision to come to Boston is it's
it's it feels good to me to go to a
police go to a place now where you know what,
it's easy to hate the Yankees right New York was
It just wasn't a good situation for me, wasn't a
great setup for me and my family. I never wanted
to go there in the first place.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
As it was traded from the A's to the Yankees,
and of course pitched against the Astros in the postseason
with the Yankees, but saying that once he had a
chance to get the hell out of there, he was like, Yeah, yeah,
the Bronx New York, it's not for me.
Speaker 3 (54:47):
Have you seen the rent prices there right now? I
would want it out of there too. Well.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
I mean, I think it's also that, I mean, you
play for the Yankees. It's it's kind of like being
a head coach at a major college football program. You're
always on, like you you cannot escape it no matter
what you do, and you know, if you're a head
coach in the SEC, there is no off season. And
I mean, I think that it's one of those that
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some can deal with it and some can't. He clearly
was one of those guys that just said, no, not
what I want to do. I want to pitch every
five days. I want to be part.
Speaker 3 (55:20):
Of a winner.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
I want to you know, be able to do all
of those different types of things, but just the constant
every day here, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 4 (55:26):
No, I would disagree in terms of where the Yankees
are in that sentiment, but I'd say, is I think
the Yankees and the Pittsburgh Steelers. They have a lot
of history, they have a lot of winning in the past.
They are basically just going through the most in motions
and wasting careers, and everyone is putting blame on them
because that's what happens. Man, the Pittsburgh Steelers have wasted careers,
even though that they are one of the most prolific
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organizations in the NFL. But TJ Watt, he's never won
in a Super Bowl title. You want to who else
was never gonna win a Super Bowl title? Antonio Brown?
You want to who ell see him win a super
Bowl title? Name Pittsburgh Steeler? Can't like Cam Hayward. He
was lucky enough to be on that first team that
was able to get there.
Speaker 3 (56:03):
Like that's it.
Speaker 4 (56:04):
That's the Yankees, and the Yankees have this such high
dictonomy expectation about being this this team of dominance and
overall we are the best because if we spend money
and you have one World Series title to show for
it and two World Series titles appearances since Brian Cassman
took on over, but we treat you like you're supposed
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to be something special because you have twenty seven rings
despite nearly half of your fan base not being able
to be alive to see any of them.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
Well, I mean it's also too, it's about the expectations
because for both organizations you mentioned, every single year, that's
the expectation is get there for the Steelers, bring home
the Lombardi, bring home the Commissioner's Trophy.
Speaker 4 (56:44):
How about we just go to let's actually win a
World Series game. How about we do that year? Well,
they're still there, they did a couple of years ago.
Well when they played in twenty twenty four, Yeah, they
went it was a five game series, and then they
found a way to proceed to blow it behind their
two best players that they spent a lot of money
on with Garrett Cole and Aaron Judge.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Congratulations Aaron Judge dropping the ball out there in center
field in the air, and then Garrett Garrett Garrett Cole
forgetting how to cover first base.
Speaker 4 (57:07):
Both of those, that one's way worse to me than
the drop ball, because if that's the bare minimum you
have to do as a picture, that's the bare man
Like you're you drop you drop a ball, or like
you die for a ball and it ends up being
a highlight grab or it gets a run in you
have to walk to first. You're right there at the
end of mind ending, and then you look at the
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who wasn't was it a Cody Bounder at that time
or was it?
Speaker 2 (57:32):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (57:32):
No, it's Anthony Rizzo.
Speaker 4 (57:33):
You look at Anthony Rizzo like he's a moron when
you're getting paid two hundred and fifty million dollars to
throw a baseball and cover a bag, brother, chill out
when it comes to this south.
Speaker 3 (57:46):
How could you expect me to cover first piece? I
don't know or any Why don't you tell me?
Speaker 7 (57:51):
No?
Speaker 3 (57:52):
It was my best at Kermit the Frog your crusts
to Kumy thief frog.
Speaker 4 (57:56):
Dear an O, I think mine was a little that
was way better mine.
Speaker 3 (58:02):
We need a ruling. Do you probably evedn't even know
who Kerma the Frog is.
Speaker 2 (58:06):
He probably doesn't. As a matter of fact, I worked
with somebody in the past. It's about Triple E's age,
and somebody said the Muppets, and he was like, oh,
what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (58:13):
It's like, what do you mean the fact that the
Muppets was supposed to be a dull cartoon? Well, I
mean it really was when you think about it.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
But getting getting back to this, I mean, here's the
thing though, Too is like I said, he would, he
would have fit right in here because I mean there's
no love lost in that clubhouse with the Yankees, especially Too,
I would say that it's more of their side, because
I'll give current astros and even ones that you know
have had connections here, you don't hear any you know,
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real shots taken at the Yankees or the Dodgers or
anybody else. It's more or less of like, hey, you
know what, let them talk. It's it's fine, but.
Speaker 4 (58:48):
I mean because we own you, so that's still still
still you know guys with this type of mindset.
Speaker 2 (58:54):
I don't mind it in the clubhouse where it's just like, yeah, hey,
you know what, they don't like us, we don't like
them either.
Speaker 4 (58:59):
With to me a Siven that it's like the scene
with Dom Draper's in the elevator talking to that one
Dweeve and he's like, I pity you.
Speaker 3 (59:05):
I don't think about you at all.
Speaker 4 (59:06):
Like that is literally the Yankees and the Dodgers, and
that is where it comes to the astros until you're
able to completely demoralize us, which you never will, which
is never going to happen, which is always going to
be why you are a sad sack organization that lives
out in the Bronx and a sad sack organization that
lives out in La La Land. Despite having two championships.
Until you beat the Astros, you won't earn my respect.
Speaker 3 (59:26):
Well, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (59:27):
No nobody gaslights on social media like Dodgers Twitter.
Speaker 4 (59:31):
I mean, especially to you start does a pretty dang
good job of playing in second.
Speaker 3 (59:34):
Half, but they're they're easy to ignore, like Dodgers Twitter.
Speaker 2 (59:38):
You know, you have Clayton kershaw Is seeing what he
said after the World Series, and then they're saying that
the Astros are the ones thinking about them. It's like, brother,
they're responding to you. There's a major difference here. Are
lobottomies still illegal in southern California? Is that what you
guys are telling me? Like, for God's sakes, are you
really this stupid?
Speaker 4 (59:56):
Yes, because they think that at some point that Mickey
Championship that they won in twenty twenty means that they
were finally able to break a streak. I'll give them
credit for the back to pack. I'm not I will
get no I will give you credit for the last two.
You're not getting credit for twenty twenty. You never played
a game with larger than sixteen thousand fans in there.
And let me also remind you you never played more
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than sixty games in a season.
Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
It's like the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Congratulations, you were able to go out and spend a
lot of money on Anthony Davis and then you'll waste
in Lebron's career for the rest of the time. But
how at least you were able to say in front
of Mickey Mouse, you won a championship.
Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
I remember you were talking about earlier those teams that
have the blind spots, that they just can't get past
those teams.
Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
The Dodgers are that way with the Astros too. We're
in their heads.
Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
The Yankees are that way with the Astros. And I
will die on this. Until the Yankees beat the Astros
in a seven game ALCS series to go to the championship,
they will not win a World Series title. I do
believe that there is something about intuition that says, if
you are a program, if you are a team that
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can't get over the hump until you're able to do
it at the highest level, guess what, you never will
win a championship. Guess you had that problem, Kirby Spartan,
Nick Saban. Then guess what happened? They won in the
national championship. But they played this weekend and he's won
and seven against them, So again.
Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Did them a lot of good after that because it
has not gone their way after it? For Saturday, I am,
I am, I'm ready for Saturday. All right, let's get
back to the Texans. Because a former defensive enforcer cannot
see enough good things about this group, We'll let you
hear from them as we continue here in the seven
o'clock HOURDS the morning Drive, Danny Cole Sports Talk seven
ninety Myers.
Speaker 5 (01:01:33):
Crushes it said goodbye.
Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Hey, Jake Myers.
Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
Catch every Ashros game on Sports Talk seven ninety before
the iHeartRadio at home of your Astros.
Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
February is the cleanup, although isn't it now? Just it
is just today?
Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
No, there's still is. You have to there's a sign expiration.
I mean there's a signed deadline, which is February.
Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
That's so there you go, there you go. That's what
you got to see. It's always that is the one
thing that for you. I don't envy with and we're
gonna hear from the defensive enforcer talking up to the Texans.
For you, I don't envy is that if you're not
closely paying attention you miss some rule in college football
that you're like, oh yeah, hey, I didn't know about that.
(01:02:16):
Then of course, you know, then you get some fan
base that's upset with you. We even paid attention to you.
I don't know, why are you.
Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
I have Kentucky fans in my comments section for saying
that they were the thirteenth ranked team in NIL when
it comes to the SEC when they're.
Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Actually the twelve rank team.
Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
All right, Well, I mean, like, I'm just saying everyone's
gonna be pissed off about something. I'm always pissed off
about the college football Playoffs selection committee. I'm pissed off
that we even have twelve teams to go to the
playoff to begin with. And there's idiots online that say, hey,
twenty four teams is exactly what we need to have.
Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Well, let's get to things that won't piss people off,
and that is former defensive enforcers like Chris Long. What
did you say on the green Lights podcast? I believe
it was the Tuesday podcast up day. They did not
say it on a hump day, so he said it's
on a Tuesday of course, you know, a recap of
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the previous weekend's action and talking up this Texans defense.
Needless to say, the tattooed won. Chris Long, he is
a fan.
Speaker 11 (01:03:12):
That defense is a superpower, That defense is the best
defense in the league. There is a level of violence, yes,
and speed on the field. They can play man coverage
and just play off like and and they break on
the ball and like they were hammering in cuts and
it's just there was a sequence in this game where
it went to too and he ran through the middle
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of the pocket and just put it dent in. I
think it was Jonathan Taylor's face mask the violence. And
then the next play, Will Anderson's big ass is the
floater standing over who was at the center, and he
Borlini front of the program and runs him over. The
violence with which they play and ultimately in this game,
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Daniel Jones, you know, inability to get off the spot.
Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
I think that's the beauty of this Texans defense too,
is that it's not incredibly exotic, it's not complicated whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
It's very much.
Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
A you have a defined role, you execute your defined role,
then it works. And if that means that you can
get after the quarterback, then go ahead and go. And
that's will Anderson Junior. That's Daniel Hunter for the most part.
You'll have some other guys that will jump in every
once in a while. And when you play against the
Buffalo Bills, you can have a lot of guys that
can jump in every once in a while, but they
don't get it turn to turnovers. But again, they do
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the basics incredibly well. And when you do the basics
incredibly well, then you have a chance to dominate, which
they have.
Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
You know what I can appreciate about what Chris Long said.
If you were to take out just the names and
just say linebacker, running back, Williamson's you and you're standing
over insert center here, pick a game. I don't know
which money's talking about. It's the same every single week.
That's all it is. Henry Tote and making a play
on that all Pro running back cool could be a backup.
(01:04:56):
All he doesn't make place, all as he's all share here,
doesn't make place. All Neal Hunter does make place.
Speaker 7 (01:05:01):
All.
Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
What Anderson does is put the fear of God into
the eyes of an offensive lineman. All they do is
they make quarterbacks feel inferiorly small, and they're able to
force them to make desperation throws. And you got a
secondary downfield that's make it plays in the back end,
that's forcing turnovers, that's keeping wide receivers at bay. Like
everyone understands it. It's I think you said it that
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it's a superpower. The superpower of the Texans with how
bad this offense has been at times this year, is
they can mask up and trust that the defense is
going to bail them out of trouble every single Saturday.
There's not been one game this year that you cannot
tell me the Texans defense has not done enough to
guarantee that their team is still involved.
Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Well, I mean, I think in some cases, you know,
obviously the first three games the year, people would point
to the defense, But then it's like, what do you want?
Like seriously, like, like what do you want when your
offense can't score more than sixteen nineteen points in those games?
Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
You mean you have more three and outs than drives
to the red zone? Dah, I mean you have more
when you.
Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
Have more punch than you do drives plays being run
inside of your team's own territory.
Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Well, I mean that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Is you dance a high wire act as long as
they did in those games, well, eventually you're gonna fall off,
and they did it.
Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
Breaks for everyone, dude. It just happens in life in general.
Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
We all have that moment where our brains snap and
the reality sets on end.
Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
We're gonna say something that we regret.
Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
We're gonna make a mistake that ends up coming back
to be thrown to our face.
Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
And that's just what is human nature. What happened to
all these games?
Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
Fourth quarter came around one big play let up by
the Texans defense and Baker Mayfield, one big play let
up by CJ. Garner Johnson's incompetence not being able to
play in the right position, and it led to two touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
That was it. You take those away.
Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
Texas evens played lights out in both matchups against the
Floorida squads.
Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Your offense just sucked.
Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Well, and I think that you know we were talking
about Willie Anderson junior Daniel Hunter, I mean has been
outstanding this year in both of those guys inside the
top five for US sacks. So I mean, you're able
to see that they're getting after quarterbacks, but I think
that the undervalued part of their game is how good
they are on the run, because you will see a
lot of times that guys that are really good sack artists,
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you know they're off the edge.
Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
Oh you get the numbers off the edge. These are
guys that are willing to play the run. No, It's
why Houston is a top three run defense in the NFL.
It's really sad that this is going to be a
year where probably both to Neil Hunter and Will Anderson
have an opportunity to hit their totals in sacks, pressures,
tackles for loss and then just gonna lose out to
Miles scart who's having once again another historic here.
Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
I mean, he's got.
Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
Nineteen sacks, He's four away from the record. There's still
five games to go. He can have a game where
he does not get one sacond. As long as he
gets one in every single game, he will break Michael
Strahan's record.
Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
He's Michael straight hand. That's exactly where else going.
Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
Okay, can I ask you right now looking at where
the quarterback position is, knowing that Jonathan Taylor's starting to
slow on down. Is this the year that you offer
a defensive player the.
Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
V Now this is where also to Brett farv would
hope that the quarterback kind of does the far of
Peyton Manning thing because they would turtle they you know,
they saw somebody coming, they go down.
Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
Yeah, which is preservation. It's a smart thing to do.
Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
But now you've got Brett Farve out there saying, Hey,
if there's somebody that's like in that position, do that.
So then you know you can have Mark Gaston know
going after them at a trading card show and not me.
Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
I'm much sure of that. But no, I mean, like,
let's just be real for me for a second. This
has been a historic season for the former Texas A
and M product. He is about ready to make history
and his name will be synonymously linked with one of
the best pass rushers of the two thousands. There's not
a clear cut front runner at quarterback. There's not a
clear cup front runner at running back outside John the Taylor,
and it feels like it's almost unherded for running back.
Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
To get the award.
Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
You're not gonna give it to just some random dude
for having an okay season. If you make history, I
think that you belong to the MVP conversation right now.
My MVP vote with God to Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
Hard to argue. I mean, with the way that he's
played this year.
Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
And it's also I mean, you know, if you get
into the MVP conversation, it's not like there's anybody out there.
I mean usually a lot of people think it's a
quarterback award, but like who can you look at this
year and say, oh, yeah, no, absolutely, that's the guy Drake.
Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
May with a fourth place schedule in New England and
not a team that you could drust in the playoffs,
that's the guy.
Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Well, I mean, and I think that there's an argument
to be made there, but I mean again, it's just
kind of proving your point where I mean, he's outstanding,
he's having a great year.
Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
But in terms of just.
Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Like overall like importance and overall just value, I mean,
like we say most Valuable Player, it's hard to argue
with what you're throwing out there with Miles Garrett. I
just think that probably it does very much become a
team award, as most of these do.
Speaker 4 (01:09:44):
It's to me down to two players right now, Miles
Garrett and Matthew Stafford. If Stafford's able to get back
to the way that he played before the matchup against Carolina,
You want to give it to a quarterback, Give it
to the thirty seven year old that's probably going to
be retiring in two years. If not, give to the
defensive lineman who's been kicking ass.
Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
It's not gonna be Aaron Rogers.
Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
No, he's forty one. He ain't get any award. And
then you get you know, they signed Adam Thielen yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
What are you doing, guys? I just want to know
what the plan is giving themselves a chance?
Speaker 7 (01:10:11):
To me?
Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
So what keep to keep the record alive of hitting
above five hundred and losing in the first round of
the playoffs? Is that the chance that you're giving. I
don't think the formula has been working for fifteen years. Dan,
do you want to change it up? Play that same track?
It's like it's like in the episode of Hime at
Your Mother where they play five hundred miles in a
loop for thirty six hours, same thing.
Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
Let's just do the exact same thing.
Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
Ten and seven play in the wad guard around lose empatically.
Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
I don't know it sounds more painful watching that show
or listening to that song.
Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
That is the best show of all time of the
two thousand and ten, of all the sitcoms, it is.
Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
That's a stretch.
Speaker 10 (01:10:48):
No, it is.
Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
It is. No, it's a massive stretch. It is not
a stretch. What's your what's your favorite sitcom of the
twenty tens?
Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
I don't even think I even still watch sitcoms in
the twenty Tensatch The Office?
Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
Yes, and you then it would probably be The Office,
which I think is the most overrated show of all time.
Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
That's not true.
Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
It especially especially to once you get into the working world,
it hits even more so.
Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
We all know an Andy Bernard who is just going
to annoy the crap out of us, and we're just
gonna let him get away with it.
Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
No, the Rock and Robin Man, he you know, he
absolutely did. And calling Jim Tuna, Yeah, absolutely, Are you.
Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
One of the people who defends Andy Barnard?
Speaker 9 (01:11:22):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
I think that that was kind of the beginning of
the end. But the underrated part of it was Robert
California coming in. James Space is an elite actor. Jim,
would you like a nature metaphor or a sex metaphor
nature Please God, no, what if?
Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
What a show when.
Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
Michael hooked up with Pam's mom and her reaction still
is my favorite. It is probably the best reaction machine there.
Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
You go, yeah, a little, little by little, you're, you know,
little by little, you're convincing yourself that it was a
good show.
Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
I think is ten times better than it was. It
was the Mocker rare, rarely watched that one.
Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
All right, Uh, there's Desperate and then there is this
league we will discuss right here as we close out
the seven o'clock hour. On the Morning Drive, Dan and
Cole Sports Talk seven to ninety.
Speaker 5 (01:12:06):
They are, But on Morning Drive here's Dan Matthews and
Cole Thompson.
Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
Like, I'm genuinely asking, other than just the fact that
he played here and helped re resurrect the Rockets career,
and it's nothing more than just paying homage.
Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Why what's the downside? He's here for six months and
then he's gone.
Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
He's on the bench for six months. Fred van Vlietz back.
Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
He's on the bench for six months, and you're going
to have to get rid of somebody else, whether that
be JD. Davidson or who would have would the bot
one be Chase on Tate Both? Right now, we're averaging
more minutes, more points, more rebounds, more assists than him.
Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
I just don't see the downside.
Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
I just I think that you know, adding a guy
with a veteran presence in somebody that can be that
floor general for you, I mean not asking him to
play thirty five forty minutes a game, but I mean
I think that he's somebody that can give you good minutes.
Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
Well, let's see this season, and while he's averaging two
point nine points per game, he is averaged roughly around
thirteen minutes per night.
Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
Are you okay with that?
Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
Would you want more from a guy like Chris Paul
Because when you're taking those minutes and you want to
be a facilitator, you'd have to take minutes away from
Reed Shepherd or on Men Thompson.
Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
Now, when you say it that way with Shephard, I
mean that's that's one that I think will probably keep
it from happening for that very reason, because I mean,
at this point, you're willing to roll with him and
to allow him to grow into that role. So I mean, yeah,
I mean you put it that way, maybe you've convinced
me cool.
Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
He hasn't had a single game this month, I mean
this season, that he's shot more than he scored more
than nine points. I'm sorry, Jay, Shawn Ta can get
me nine points, it's gonna cost me less.
Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Aaron Holliday can get you that.
Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
Aaron Holliday is gonna get me fourteen minute points. All right, Fine,
I was wrong, Cole, I was wrong. Yeah, sorry, you
don't have to harangue the points. Heyst You and I
both had to work with a person who would never
admit that he was wrong until we finally had to
poke the bear.
Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
This is how I'm taught.
Speaker 4 (01:14:07):
I have to make sure I poke you until I
hear the words I'm wrong, You're right, man.
Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Then there'd be a lot of yelling and all of that.
I was just like, geez, man, it's not that serious.
Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
Charge, You're right, it's not that serious. Chris Pauls had
a hell of a career. The Rockets owe him a
debt of gradude for what he was able to accomplish.
I cannot wait to see where he signs in his
final season, as long as it's not in a Rockets uniform.
Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
Texan's back on the Praxe Field getting ready for the
Chiefs Sunday nights in at Kansas City College Football Playoff.
And one of the teams we've talked about, and we
talked about him earlier when it came to the Texas Longhorns,
was the Miami Hurricanes.
Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
And I mentioned a desperate league boy.
Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
You know, like now in the age of you know,
the Big ten network, it all started in the SEC network,
followed on in the ACC network. Yes, it's probably on
your TV package. It's there, and you've probably never watched
it unless you're like an SMU fan and you know,
you want to see where a game is and if
it's not on the CW and that's probably right there
on the ACC network and you're like, oh, hey, that's here.
Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
Okay, I mean I think so when you play against Baylor,
it's on TNT.
Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Remember that, guys, that's where you're at, right, So, I
mean the options are at plenty. Well, you know, the
ACC Network and these networks will use their conferences as
a chance to promote their propaganda.
Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Well, in this case, right here on.
Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Thursday, the ACC is making their case for the college
Football Playoff for Miami because starting at four am, you're
going to have number six Notre Dame at number ten Miami.
Then at nine am, same deal, twelve pm right there,
high noon, same deal, eleven o'clock that night, same game.
Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
So they're playing the Miami game against Notre Dame four times.
Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
It's even better on Friday because you get a four
straight times nine noon, five o'clock, eight o'clock. But then
here's where the trend changes. Remember that common opponent thing
Florida at number four Miami at eleven o'clock that night.
So the acc to say nothing else is well, I mean,
(01:16:04):
there is that day off of work. You know, you've
got whatever show it is that used to have Mark
Packer on it, and I'm sure you know that's kind
of like it's supposed to be. Like their answer to
the Fine Bomb Show. It's like you're not beating Fine bombs.
So I love the effort, but it's it's not happening.
I'm in and everybody is still going to call into
Paul and you're still going to get those shows. So
(01:16:27):
just uh, grin and Barrett or enjoy it. Either one
is your choice, but in this case, right here again,
it is a hey, in case you forgot why our
team deserves a shot at the college football Playoff.
Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
Here you go in the ACC.
Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Look, this is strained behavior because they've been left out before.
Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
They're like, we can't be left out again. Can't do
this to us. Well, they can't be left out again.
Speaker 4 (01:16:50):
Which, by the way, if you want to watch all
those games, make sure that you have a package that
includes the ACC network for you to watch all those games.
Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
Like it's good.
Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
Well most of them have it, like you know, like
my my my TV package has it. And I mean
I've probably watched it a combined through throughout the life
of the network, probably about two times.
Speaker 4 (01:17:08):
I watch it every Saturday as part of a multi
screen view on YouTube TV. Like it's because I enjoy
watching one random game per Saturday.
Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
Why because you don't want to watch the Tom Brennaman
CW game where it's five and six NC State taking
on you know, two in nine Boston College.
Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Hey, that was a fantastic win for Dave Duran's group.
Well make sure maybe.
Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Make sure you stick around for the Gilmour girls afterwards.
Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
Long story short, what this comes back to is the
ACC knows that it cannot afford to have another team
miss the Playoff like it did with Florida State in
twenty twenty three, because of eventually what's gonna happen is
the SEC when the contract comes up in twenty thirty one,
I mean twenty thirty one.
Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
They're gonna look at Miami.
Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
They're gonna look at Florida State, they're gonna look at Clemson,
they're gonna look at UNC, and they're gonna say, you're
all profitable, come join our conference where we won't leave
you out.
Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
So they have to do it this way. Now here's
why we'll fight back, Dan.
Speaker 4 (01:17:58):
I believe the Playoff Committee is going to guarantee Miami
spot in the College Football Playoff. If one thing happens,
one thing, both JMU and the winner of the AAC
are in the college Football Playoff, they will move Notre
Dame back and they will move Miami in.
Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
So long as be why.
Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
You also lose, well, make sure you do that Otherwise,
as Marco Rubio said, just say Donald Trump will get
involved in the college football playoff. And I think we
can agree. Let's let's have the government just do government
things and have people who are in athletics somewhat know
what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (01:18:33):
Wait, you said Marco Rubio or Diego Pavia, because both
ended up calling on Donald Trump begging him for the
playoff to change. Did they save us Trump?
Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
Save us President Trump? For the I watched a lot
of college football.
Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
I can tell you there are certain teams that are
just getting railroaded, just absolutely taking advantage of I know
a little bit about it from my perspective, but not
as bad as they have it right now. All right,
there's your one for for for the week. And it's
been a while. I've I've owed you one for a while, Donnie.
Just please just just please put alla me, man, That's
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all I'm asking for. I will put them in. The
great people there. They love Trump, they really do. And
if if I have a chance to put Gaylen de
Bois team in the playoff, I absolutely will, you know,
I will.
Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
Can you put it in Houston to while we're at it.
Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
I can't do that when I'm sorry you number twenty one,
that's quite a leap to be able to try to
jump up there.
Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
I just I can't see it. I just got I can't.
Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
I apologize, all right, speaking of a team that maybe
doesn't have to make as quite a leap, but still
is going to try to make said leap. We will
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This is the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole.
Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
The second to last college football playoff rankings are out
one through four. It's Ohio State one, Indiana two, Georgia three,
Texas Tech up to number four, and A and M
dropping the number seven. Texas in at number thirteen, U
of H jumping back in at twenty one seven one three, two,
one two five seven ninety is the number two.
Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Get in.
Speaker 5 (01:20:35):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
The A and M in Texas portion of this, I
mean A and M. They they are, They're squarely.
Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
In this thing.
Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
And you know, I think that there's there's zero, you know,
scenarios where they would find themselves doing anything other than
hosting a game there in Kyle Field, which I guess
you know again overall this season. I mean it's it's
the age old. You know, Hey, if I gave you
this area. Would you take it? But I think you
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know it's one of those where you can't tell them
how you got through the eleven and one because most
am fans I've brought this up before. I don't think
I've brought this up with you. The Room of truth,
you know, like some people would say truth serum, but
in this case, it's the Room of truth.
Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
It's like Wonder Woman's Last. So you can't lie.
Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
And you put Aggie fans in there and you say, hey,
eleven and one, Yeah, no, it's awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
Who'd we lose to Texas? I don't like that.
Speaker 4 (01:21:26):
No, they would very much say we were okay losing
that game to South Carolina and so going eleven to
one as long as.
Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
We'd beat Texas.
Speaker 4 (01:21:33):
There you go, tell me what you want. I mean, like, like, guys,
this is a safe place. Seven seven ninety, I'm not
going to judge you, but you're lying through your teeth
if you say that it did not bother you to
lose to Texas by double digits as a three and
a half point favorite in a year that you were
going to say you were the only undefeated team in
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the SEC. And on top of that, you would guarantee
your spot in Atlanta, and you probably would guarantee your
spot with the first round by tell me these things.
Tell me it doesn't bother you, because let's just call
it as is. Texas has been in the conference for
two years, even in the conference for fourteen. Texas has
beaten you two years. You're zero to two and have
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yet to go to a conference title game. Texas kept
you out of the conference title game. Texas has been
to a conference title game. You now have to host
a playoff game, and it at I mean at your home.
By the way, your reward could be you face off
against the number two team in the country, which very
well could be Georgia in the second round, all because
you lost to Texas. You lose to South Carolina, your
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host a playoff game.
Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
Still sorry, Like that's where it comes down to, guys,
don't don't And by.
Speaker 4 (01:22:40):
The way, it would be flipping on the same way
it was Texas fans, Texas was in the playoff, they're
eleven to one. You'd be pissed off if you lost
either to Oklahoma or or Texa and m is one of.
Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
Your lassess it's fun.
Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Like I don't get that sense from Texas fans, like
I think they hate both schools, but I think that
the hatred is more on the other side.
Speaker 4 (01:22:59):
I'll guarantee pushback on the Oklahoma standpoint of it, I
will say, I think if they pity Texas A and
M fans more than they hate Texas A and M fans,
they think if they don't belong in the same strass fares,
I just they hate Oklahoma fan.
Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Here's the thing though, too, in A and M fans,
I got your back on this one, is they're more
annoyed with A and M fans. But then I also
say to Texas fans too, I'm like, you know, really,
if you put a mirror in front of you, you're
both kind of the same people.
Speaker 4 (01:23:23):
But annoyingly we overrache you on everything that we do
and we have to give you so much pride, like
you're a vegan and you just let us know that
you're a Texas or a Texas A and M. Fair enough, Yes,
I have a problem with that, I really don't. I again,
I think that when you look at it from the
standpoint of Texas A and M, if you lost to
let's say Arkansas on the road, okay, you'll take that
as long as you beat Texas. I think if you're
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a Texas fan, you would be okay losing to Ohio State.
So long as you beat Oklahoma and Texas. I just
think that's the way it is now. I will say,
the true rivalry, in my humble opinion in this state
when it comes to longhorns, is Oklahoma because of what
because what the Red River Shootout means, what that matchup
is in the Cotton Bowl, and more specifically, when we
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got to the SEC and we were only guaranteed one
rival after this season before they moved to a three
team format.
Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
They chose Tech and they chose Oklahoma.
Speaker 4 (01:24:13):
They said, we want Oklahoma, and you were gonna have
LSU play against sexas A and.
Speaker 3 (01:24:17):
M every year.
Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
I just think that from the Texas fan perspective, as
the arrogance alone keeps them from you know, loathing another
fan base, like at least to you know, to the
level that you know Tech, you know Oklahoma hates them.
I mean, my god, I'm watching the Oklahoma and LSU
game this weekend and you still got Oklahoma fans doing
horns down and I'm like, you're you're in no stratosphere
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playing them right now, like, why are you doing this
because of.
Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
Their always insitan in mind? And that's just it, and
everyone does it.
Speaker 4 (01:24:47):
I mean, like, let's be real, Texas came in with
the massive target on it's back in the SEC because
of the way that they were talking about how they
were going to run the conference when they were still
in the Big twelve. And so because of that, whenever
you got a win over a Texas team, you want
to put horns down what happened last season when you
faced off in the Red River shootout Oklahoma one, and
then this past season you beat Oklahoma. I think that's
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also what makes it such a unique rivalry is that
it doesn't always guarantee the better team where the better
records going to win this football game when it comes
to Texas and Texas A and M. You guys took
a fourteen year hiatus. So far it's two and on
in favor of the Longhorns.
Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
I mean, that's just it. These are facts that we're saying.
Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
And really, if you want to go back, it's three
and zero that has been lingering since twenty ten, which
is the last time that Texas A and M was
able to beat up on.
Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
Texas someone three two on two, five seven ninety is
the number to get in Texas As I mentioned in
at number thirteen, and right now they are behind BYU
and Miami. For really, I mean, the committee would tell
you these three teams have a chance to grab one spot.
The problem would be BYU, say, if they're able to
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beat Texas Tech. Because for Tech, I mean, obviously there
is still a motivation to win that game, because you
want to be able to at least move on to
the next round of the playoff. And I mean even
though they would still be hosting a game there in
Lubbock and you know it'd be a decided advantage from them,
I mean, you still want to be able to, you know,
give yourself one one less chance to trip up before
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getting to hopefully making a run to the championship.
Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
Well, the thing is is that you can't say to
the Big twelve, specifically Texas Tech, hey, you beat the
breaks off of BYU in the regular season. They came
into your house and you made it a one sided affair.
Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
It wasn't even remotely close.
Speaker 4 (01:26:34):
You handle business against everybody except Arizona State, who you
did not have either of your quarterbacks for really in
that game because well, Hamma got hurt and you have
been eleven to one. Thanks for playing, but now you're out.
If you were number four, like, you can't do that.
So the head to head at some point has to matter.
So BYU would just get on in, but Texas sect
should be penalized for it. The easy plan is this, though, Dan,
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we're arguing about Miami and we're arguing about Notre Dame.
The committee keeps saying that Notre Dame and what they
were able to accomplish despite losing a head to head
matchup against Miami is going to go to the playoff. Well,
BYU takes a spot kick Notre Dame out, but BYU in.
Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
Then say, see, the head to head didn't matter at
the end, all be all.
Speaker 4 (01:27:14):
Guess what, both of you were terrible, both the two losses,
both of you going home well.
Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
And that is the thing too with Texas, I mean,
the thing holding over them right now is people focus
on the well, you know, just don't play Ohio State
and then you're in sure, I guess, but I mean
it is also too, as I've said, I go the
complete opposite way with it. No play Ohio State. But
then beat Ohio State. Well, we were on the road.
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So you've had teams that have gone on the road
before and one and been able to even have that
as even more of a feather in their cap.
Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
We'll stopping you, can I say that right now.
Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
I'm very disappointed in Steve Sarcasian in a lot of ways,
and I'm very disapported in Texas and Texas fans because
of last I checked Dan Tay to be that guy.
Your Texas act like it you're supposed to be able
to beat the tyrants. You talk a big game that
you belong in the stratosphere alongside Alibama.
Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
Beat the tyrants.
Speaker 4 (01:28:06):
Beat the tyrants, they are the tyrants. They then beat
Ohio State. But then don't tell me in one breath, oh,
we're going to take away these games because of we're
gonna be penalized for losing these matchups and we're just
gonna do it like Indiana does.
Speaker 6 (01:28:20):
Brother.
Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
Let me make something abundantly clear.
Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
We still last season argue to no end that Indiana
at eleven to one did not belong in the College
Football Playoff because of who they didn't play. Do you
want me to compare you a program that has resources
out the wazoo. Back to back top five recruiting classes,
always kills in the transfer portal, massive nil funds, you
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can pay for whoever you want to come to the program.
You really want me to compare you to Indiana, Fine,
go undefeated then and I'll have a conversation if you're
going to make the playoffro And now.
Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
Here's a good and the bad news for it. Though.
Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
The good news is this thing is going to expand
because it's and it's probably even going to expand as
early as this year, because I mean, they've already pushed
back the deadline that was supposed to be a couple
of days ago for a chance to alert the TV
networks that hey, we're going to expand.
Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
So that tells me they're they're doing that.
Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
So in that case, the argument about well don't play
Ohio State, that goes out the window because Texas would
be in right now. They'd have no problem. It's fine.
So that's how they're going to handle that. And I mean,
you know, just the bad news is, well, at least
in the early going, in the immediate it's not gonna
matter for you.
Speaker 4 (01:29:29):
But like for me, the problem is is that we're
here in Texas. Fans complain about losing three games, one
of which was by twenty five points on the road
to Georgia, one of which you were outgained out an
out time of possession by eleven mins to a four
win Florida team, and then Ohio State, and you have
three top ten wins.
Speaker 3 (01:29:47):
You want to what that shows me?
Speaker 4 (01:29:48):
Dan, in a bad year, in your eyes, you still
were one of the better teams in college football. So
fix a few things in the offseason, tit in a
few bolts, change up your little route pathway. Guess what
you get be in the College Fotball playoff next year.
You want to who's never gonna have a season like
this again? Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt going on a ten to two
run with a quarterback that basically is playing off of
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percocets and sheer will and determination to live up to
every promise they said. I'm busting with the boys. That
team is not gonna be back here next year. And
you know what their award is for playing an SEC
schedule and for handling business having a top twenty offense.
Speaker 3 (01:30:25):
Enjoy the relyat Quest.
Speaker 4 (01:30:26):
Bowl despite having a ten to two record, But how
that nine to three team for Texas, who's gonna be
here next year because they'll pay for themselves in the
offseason with nil and recruiting, and they'll kill it when
it comes to transfer portal. All these things that we
know that they're gonna do, because that's what Steve Sarkisian
in Texas does. They'll get this opportunity again. You fumble
the bag against two really solid teams and you drop
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in against a really crappy one.
Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
Well it on you, guys.
Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
Then you know, Diego Pavia could possibly win his lawsuit
and come back again next year. And then come back
you see his brother talking trash to players on the
field and getting arrested again.
Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
It happens. It's fine.
Speaker 4 (01:30:59):
I thought it was so funny that they said, Hey,
not the mom this time, Let's go to brother if
they play in the Relycris because you know he's gonna
play in that game. Now, we gotta go find his dad.
His dad's got to make an impact. He's got making
appearance some here.
Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
We're in here. We got to complete the set with
all the shenanigans in the pavias.
Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
It's one of the greatest sports on the planet. It
is seriously, it's a never a dull moment with the
Heim trophy too.
Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
They probably will. I'm so excited for it.
Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
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Speaker 4 (01:32:42):
Two year deal with an option after twenty twenty six
for two point six million dollars. As reporter first by
Brian mctagger. Hi, buddy, I would say you add today. Yeah, No, stop,
I'm never gonna stop that.
Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
Nope, you open. Okay, this is the problem, dude, y'all
understanding me.
Speaker 4 (01:32:57):
You gave me something, You gave me a little room
to be able to poke the bear.
Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
Now it's a part of the show. No, it's a
war of attrition here, and it's a war that I'm
I'm prepared to win. I'm excited. I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (01:33:08):
Let's let's let's see who comes out on tom and
you're gonna accept this to happen, or if we're just
gonna have to go roll with the punches.
Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
Can't be.
Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
The guy's not willing to quit, and uh, I'm definitely
not willing to quit. But anyway, continue in the college
football conversation. You appreciate you handling that. By the way,
I did not expect my my breakfast to take as
long as it did. But that's okay. I'm sorry. It's fun.
Speaker 3 (01:33:28):
It's why we have two of us, guys. That's true.
That's true. You need to take a breather, go outside
and make a phone call. It's all good. I got
your fit. I got you for twelve minutes. I can
do that.
Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
I always love like, you know some of those shows
like where it's just like you know your co host,
it's like.
Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
Where'd you go?
Speaker 9 (01:33:41):
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Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
Oh, you know? I had this. I'm like, you do
realize you have a show. I take it. I took
a nap. You were locked in. It's all good.
Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
No, all good, but real quick before we get to
Jim and Brandon, see you guys right there? Someone three
two one, two five seven ninety uh Lane Kiffin might
be the good guy after all.
Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
I'll listen to it. What's the story behind it?
Speaker 5 (01:34:05):
All?
Speaker 8 (01:34:05):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
So Charlie Wise Junior, who was the primary play caller
and offensive coordinator at Ole Miss. He was one of
the ones who got on the plane and one of
the ones that had the many who have no idea
what it's like to be touched by a woman. That
we're out at the airport flipping off and yelling obscenities
at people as they boarded the plane to leave from
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Oxford to go to No, it's true, if you, if you,
if you seriously are taking the time to do that,
you have nothing else going on in your life.
Speaker 4 (01:34:34):
No, they've just never been offered ninety million dollars to
leave the state of Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (01:34:37):
There you go. That's better than saying never touch a woman.
Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
Can trust me, It's you know, the best part of
Mississippi is going in and leaving.
Speaker 3 (01:34:45):
I do like Oxford, Tho I think it's great out there.
That's fine.
Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
It's like for everybody that's like, oh, it's such a
great town, all this square, I'm like, I can name
like five or six different college towns that I'd much
rather be in. Really, yes, But in the case Kiffen
putting out the statement yesterday, Charlie Weiss, he has signed
with us. He is going to be the offensive coordinator
here at LSU. But you know what, we want the
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best for this program. And he's and he put out
the statement with the premise that this was to the
committee of Hey, don't ding our guys because we're still
going to have a pretty full coaching staff there, and
you're gonna have both the offensive and defensive play callers
still in the fold. So don't ding them because they're
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still going to have an opportunity to be the team
that they've been.
Speaker 4 (01:35:34):
So yes, I will say good on Lane to allow
his former coaches that left they want to return to
Ole Miss and finish up the season.
Speaker 3 (01:35:44):
I understand that is a great thing.
Speaker 4 (01:35:46):
College football playf Committee's probably saw that and said we're
not going to ding him.
Speaker 3 (01:35:49):
Instead, we're going to move them up a spot.
Speaker 4 (01:35:51):
Now they're at the sixth seed versus being in the
seventh seed, So I can respect that. Did you also
see the messaging that came away from two of the
team captains on how they felt about Lane's departure.
Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
I think a lot of that is, you know, prisoner
of the moment. I really do, and I get it.
But I mean it's also though too. It's just like
you're kind of allowing the emotions to dictate your own
and you're feeding into it just the way that I
read it.
Speaker 3 (01:36:16):
So for those of you that don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:36:17):
Surataine Perkins, who's been one of the best offenders for
Ole Miss and Bryson Sanders, is starting center for the Rebels.
Both decided to go to Twitter last night, and several
other players as while either by retweeting it or giving
their own opinion what they quote. Tweeted Lane Kiffn's comments
despite the team asking me to keep coaching. I think
everyone there in the room would disagree, said Sanders. Suratain Perkins,
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that was not the message you said in the meeting room.
Everybody was there and can vouch for it. So at
the same time, yes, Lange Giffen is being respected by
giving back Charlie Wise for this playoff run. Players made
it clear, dude, you're bailing on us. You're leaving us
right before you decide, I mean right before we have
our biggest run in program history. You made it clear
(01:37:03):
that you do not believe that we can win this consistently.
You made your bed, go lie in it, get on
out of here, and here's why we'll fight back on
the stand. If it was any school other than the
one that you were rooting for, the one that you
have allegiance to, I think you would feel the.
Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
Same way as the players do.
Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
No, I mean, and I get it from that perspective.
I mean, because it's one of those like anybody but them.
That's another thing that's that's you know, going into this.
But this is also a lesson for you know, these
young guys, is it's gonna come a time in your
life where you're gonna have to make a decision that
adversely affects somebody else's now you know, somebody else's interest,
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and when you have to do that, then be prepared
to deal with what comes with it too, because I mean,
you know, Lane's seen it and he's no stranger to it,
he's been through it before. But I mean that's just
that's again why situations like this, I don't do a
ton of moral hand ringing, because it's one of those
where it's like, Okay, maybe you're not gonna be as
high of a profile making a decision like this, but
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you will have to make a decision like this, and
when you do, then you be prepared to deal with
what comes your way.
Speaker 3 (01:38:10):
And most people I don't think can.
Speaker 4 (01:38:11):
Right, and Lane had to deal with what was coming
his way, which was I believe that this team is
only good enough to win a national title, maybe this year,
maybe never again. So I'm gonna go to LSU, which
means I'm not gonna coach this, Seamon.
Speaker 3 (01:38:22):
I'm just like just the number one thing in this business.
Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
And again it's it's something that you know I've talked
about with you before. I don't tell how, I don't
tell fans how to fan. You want to fan, whatever way,
Sure do it. That's that's that's your business. You pay
the money, you give your time, you do it all.
The one thing for people and colleagues in our business
that I'm really just honestly sick and tired of is
(01:38:46):
faux outrage and and just being constantly surprised by things
Like you've worked in this business for as long as
you have, how are you surprised by anything in this
industry anymore?
Speaker 7 (01:38:56):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
And if you are, then you're being intentionally dumb. But
to me, that's not what this comes down to.
Speaker 4 (01:39:01):
If you ask me right now, Lane Kiffin, actually sticking
around for ole Miss and turning down LSU, that would
surprise me because of you and I both know what
is the better job. You and I both know where
there's more consistency to win. You and I both know
what is supposed to be when it comes to the
pecking order where Ole Miss rinks and where LSU ranks.
But if you're also telling me that Lane Kiffin is
(01:39:22):
supposed to stick around with a rival of a school
after leading them on their best run and saying next season,
I'm taking.
Speaker 3 (01:39:29):
You, you, you, you, and.
Speaker 4 (01:39:31):
These coaches with me over to the opposing sideline. I
want to coach my team in the playoff. You're also
out of your mind. It was malpractice and it was
moronic to think for one second that Lane was ever
going to be sipping wearing an Ole Miss Rebel shirt
again while being named the head coach of the Alshie
Tigers the second that he.
Speaker 3 (01:39:47):
Made that bed done.
Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
Then you also have to live in the fact that
you were never coaching this team in the playoff, and.
Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
The ad made it abundantly clear. Seven one three two
one two five seven ninety. Jim on the south Side
wants to weigh in.
Speaker 12 (01:39:58):
Jim, good morning, good morning, thanks for taking our call.
I love y'all show.
Speaker 7 (01:40:04):
By the way, I love you know.
Speaker 12 (01:40:05):
It's a really good just a couple of things. One
I wanted to talk about the a and M Texas
rivalry for just a second. I went to A and
M in the early eighties. It was the.
Speaker 7 (01:40:17):
Mott maniacal time.
Speaker 12 (01:40:19):
Everybody you know hated Texas, you know, and you know,
just just crazy, right. I have a son, a niece,
a couple of friends, kids that went to A and
M here in the last ten years or so. They
they just don't really care that much about this rivalry.
I think, you know, they've they uh, these young kids
(01:40:41):
feel like I think it's being forced on them by
the old people. They're trying to get them to really
get worked up about it. None of the people that
I know, their kids, you know, really care.
Speaker 7 (01:40:52):
I think they have.
Speaker 12 (01:40:53):
They had a pretty good rivalry building with LSU. Those
kids liked it.
Speaker 7 (01:40:57):
There was a lot of fun.
Speaker 12 (01:40:59):
But Texas thing, you know, I think it's been too
long or whatever. But they're just not into it that
much from from what I've seen what I've talked to
them about. Anyway, That's that's the one they wanted to say.
The second thing, real quick is I saw the Texans
game this week. It was it was good, But I
(01:41:19):
hate to pass over the fact that I still think
we have an offensive coordinator problem. Watching them run that
ball into the line two times and get stuffed on
that play. I thought it was ridiculous. And you know,
I hate to gloss over that just because they want anyway.
That's that's all I wanted to say. And I appreciate
(01:41:40):
you taking my call.
Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
Hey appreciate Jim Storry with the first thing. I mean,
Jim's probably right. Honestly, when you think about it is
there's an entire generation of kids that either go to
Texas or texasing them and they're just kind of like, Okay,
I mean, you know you hear stories about it, but
until these last couple of years. I mean, you know,
the fight songs have both teams mentioned in it and
(01:42:02):
all of that. But I mean you probably do have
kids that you know they I mean here over the
last ten years that went there, and like, you know,
for Texas, it's not sou like that's that's all we
care about the most.
Speaker 3 (01:42:14):
To me, it's been ou for a while.
Speaker 4 (01:42:15):
It's it's been on you since I would say I
was going into high school, it felt like it was
that way, and when I was in high schoo when
I was still in high school, it was Texas, Texas
A and m Missouri and Oklahoma and the Big twelve,
and it feels like that again Missouri, they're like the
Texas A and M version for Oklahoma, like, yeah, you
talk about it.
Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
They ain't no love lost there.
Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
Here's what's going to change it from the A and
M side. You got to start winning these games. You
start winning it, then that is going to rejuvenate the rivalry.
But I mean, the fact of the matter is the
last two years Texas has won both of them and
it's one sided. So I mean, you know, I think
that probably that does kind of factor in a little bit.
I mean I know that I was, you know, you know,
(01:42:56):
calling out Aggie fans earlier for now you know, eleven
and one.
Speaker 3 (01:43:00):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
I mean Jim's point, I'm like, you know what, he
might be right, he I mean, some people might be
telling the truth when they're like, you know, it's not
that it's not that big of a deal because you
don't know anything else true.
Speaker 4 (01:43:13):
But at the same time, for me, at least, it's
also got to be competitive games because let's it's called
as is. Second half of both games last season Kyle
Field and this season at DKR it was all Texas,
So you got to at least make it a battle
in those games consistently. If you win one, okay, cool,
you win one game against Texas, but in the next
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three years you get molliwot by the Longhorns.
Speaker 3 (01:43:36):
You got to make it a game at least.
Speaker 2 (01:43:38):
Let's get into the Texans conversation someeone three, two, one,
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All right, see we're we're We're not. No, it's not
better known as that at all. Seven one three two
one two five seven ninety. Uh Anthony, one of our
listeners brought this up. And you know we were talking
earlier about uh Lake and Tomlinson and we can still
talk about, you know, the Texan's offensive line. Uh here
before we get to Eric at home on at nine o'clock.
(01:45:57):
But I thought this was a good topic to to
bring up, So kudos to you, Anthony. He threw out, curious,
if you guys think that Matt Burke can be getting
some head coaching talk soon, would hate to see him go.
I responded, saying, I don't see it. Defensive guys are
usually way down the list, and I think that teams
are still convinced that this is demko. So I said
that you know them being in this situation a couple
(01:46:18):
of years ago because Bobby Slowick the first year the
offense looked amazing.
Speaker 3 (01:46:23):
I mean c J.
Speaker 2 (01:46:24):
Stroud, we were we were having dreams of grandeur at
that time of like man c J. Stroud, like he's
gonna be up there with like Patrick Mahomes and like
Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson and like all these guys
like that's we got that guy here, like that's that's awesome.
And then the following year it was an offensive coordinator
who could not be able to work against twists and
(01:46:44):
stunts and really any type of adjustments whatsoever. The league
caught up to him, and that's why he's not here anymore.
I just I think you know that it's twofold with Burke.
Speaker 3 (01:46:52):
Number one.
Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
You know, I think that one of the things that
does help you get some run as a head coach,
you know, as coordinator as a head coach, is the
wrestling thing. You're good on the mic. He's not good
on the mic. When you talk to Matt Burke. It
is very vanilla. Just you're not getting anything out of him.
Like for example, Dan Quinn when he got run when
(01:47:16):
he was the defensive coordinator in Seattle, it was exactly
that great guy.
Speaker 3 (01:47:21):
Players love him. He's fantastic with the media.
Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
That's why I think that, especially for defensive guys, that
helps you out. And I mean for Burke, I just
again get back to I just don't think that the
league is convinced that this is all him. I know
that they handed over play calling, and I know that
Demko even before that was like, no, he's very involved
all of those ships.
Speaker 3 (01:47:42):
I get all of that.
Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
I just think with Burke for that second reason alone,
it's going to have to be another proven year, which
for the Texans is good news because you still get
those guys teaming up with this defense. There's no reason
to believe that this is going anywhere anytime soon.
Speaker 4 (01:47:57):
Well, think about a guy like Vance Joseph, who has
been a head coach once before in Denver, then decided, Hey,
I want sloppy seconds, so ill just be the defense
coordinator out in Denver this time around. He's called three
straight years of elite defensive play and every time he
has been passed on up. Think about lou Or Moro.
Remember him when he was in Cincinnati. This was a
guy who at one point was a reason that the
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Bengals were in the playoff conversation year in and year out,
and he was a good selling point to the Cincinnati
actually being in the super Bowl the one year they went.
He was up with the Arizona Cardinal's job, and ever
since Jonathan Gannon got hired, he was passed on by.
That's the thing with defensive coordinators. So many people talk
(01:48:41):
about this all the time, and it drives me crazy.
You need to hire the best coach for your team.
You need to hire what type of identity you want.
And sometimes it's easier just to go with the offensive
guy because then you can blame him for if the
quarterback sucks, because it's the most important position. You can
blame him for the offensive line taking a step back.
You can blame him for, you know, not drafting wide receivers. Well,
but I look for culture. Standpoint. Nine times out of ten,
(01:49:04):
you're getting a better version of a team that you
can trust has that physicality from either an assistant to
the head coach or a defensive minded coach. Because look
at right now some of the best names in the industry.
I'll get you Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell was an offensive
minded coach, but he was the assistant towards He was
the assistant to just Sean Payton, change the culture, Jamika Ryans,
(01:49:27):
change the culture. Something about that just says to me,
that's what you needs. So Matt Burg is a dude
that you think you want to run through the wall for,
that's you should hire. But gms and owners don't want
to look at that. They want to say offensive innovation,
offensive tempo, offensive consistency, gotta make the higher.
Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
Here's the other thing, though too, that I think could
work in Burke's favor eventually.
Speaker 3 (01:49:47):
Again I don't think it's going to be this year.
Speaker 2 (01:49:50):
Is NFL teams follow trends and in a lot of
times there are no original thoughts where they just believe,
you know, oh, okay, well you know this team's got
that guy.
Speaker 3 (01:50:00):
Can find our guy like right now.
Speaker 2 (01:50:02):
You know, for the longest time it was, hey, you know,
Chase Belichick, find the next Belichick. There there's another Belichick
on that staff, and just continuously, time and time again,
you found out, no, there isn't one. Even if they
come here and try to act like they're Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (01:50:17):
They're really not.
Speaker 2 (01:50:19):
And you know they may or may not have a
buttch in. But that's that's the story for another time.
Speaker 4 (01:50:23):
But you also have to make sure that you don't
have the Patriot way follow the guy who was supposed to.
Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
Where I'm going with this is even though he was
not the Belichick tree, he played there, he didn't coach
underneath him. Is if Mike Rabel's going to start to
change some minds.
Speaker 4 (01:50:38):
So well, okay, let let me just start off with this.
I thought that Mike Rabel got a short end of
the stick when he was in Tennessee. Now you think
he did get short at the stick, let's call that
he probably was gonna get fired, because that's in penn brother,
that ain't pencil.
Speaker 9 (01:50:51):
Hell.
Speaker 3 (01:50:51):
As a matter of fact, that's in sharpie.
Speaker 4 (01:50:53):
He was probably gonna get fired regardless the next season
because of the team was going to be regressing so much.
They were just hitting reset. But like the narrative of
oh well he didn't have all this ducks in order
or that, you know, his offensive innovators like guys, he
was in Tennessee with an incompetent GM, a reluctant owner
to spend money, constant neglect at the quarterback position, the
(01:51:14):
inability to retain talent, and he was able to get
to nine wins, nine wins, eleven wins, twelve wins and
only two losing seasons. He's been He's number three all
time in the f franchise's history in wins for a coach.
I'm like, the dude just speaks players and he gets
what players are going through, and he teeters this line
(01:51:35):
of I understand it, but I also don't give a
flying care in the world. Therefore us going I don't
care about your problems, I don't care about feelings.
Speaker 3 (01:51:42):
I care about wins.
Speaker 4 (01:51:43):
But he also understands how a player reacts that type
of stuff, that's what you need.
Speaker 3 (01:51:48):
I think that Demiko, if he was.
Speaker 4 (01:51:49):
A little bit more intense in that standpoint, Texas would
probably be flirt twelve and five every single year. But
still that player Mantra cares a lot of weight. And
I don't think Demiko is trying to overshadow anyone. I
just think that it's, you know, unintentionally the case, because
I mean, for anybody else on this coaching staff, who
do you know a ton about?
Speaker 3 (01:52:09):
You don't? You really don't.
Speaker 2 (01:52:10):
I mean, Matt Burke and Nick Kayley are about the
only ones in Cole Popovich because of how the offensive
line is. But the receiver's coach, you think most people
know who that is. The running backs coach think most
people know who that is. You know that, of course,
you know that. But I just I think that the
casual fan doesn't. Well, you know about Frank Ross you
know about Frank Ross. Of course, you know, because he
looks like and talks like John Burnhal.
Speaker 3 (01:52:32):
But he does. That's actually okay, now I cannot see it. No,
it's it's uncanny.
Speaker 2 (01:52:37):
And the next time I ever meet him in person,
I'm gonna ask him and be like, dude, do you
ever get John Bernhal?
Speaker 3 (01:52:41):
Yeah? I think he's too short though, that's the problem.
I mean, how tall is Bernhal? Is he pretty big? Guys?
Six three six four?
Speaker 7 (01:52:47):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:52:47):
Is he really?
Speaker 2 (01:52:47):
Yeah? He's big, So I mean he really is the punisher.
That's the point. Like, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:52:51):
He was Brandon and wolfle wall Street. He stills the
best scene in the movie.
Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
Hey, sell me this pin you need something to write with?
There you go supply and demand what a scene. I
love that movie, I really do.
Speaker 4 (01:53:02):
But anyways, like, besides that, besides the character of who
Frank Ross is, you really just only know about Tmiko Ryans,
Nick Kaylee, Matt Burke. And for most part you don't
really know that much about Matt Burke and Nick Keaylee
because of they're not aggressively at the microphone. They are
very much in a due diligence order so a lot
of what you see is Tomko. So I think that's
another selling point of where it's somewhat challenging if you
(01:53:25):
are specifically a defensive mind to coach, let's just start
there and then somebody who isn't showing the emotions that
some teams are grasping for to be able to lead
your roster, to be able to be in that frontline
center move of yes, we believe you are going to
make a great head coach.
Speaker 3 (01:53:40):
I think if you leave and go.
Speaker 4 (01:53:41):
Somewhere else and prove that you could be a good
play caller and then you look back up what you
did in Houston, that's a probably easier way, But that
sucks for Houston because you lose a really good guy,
Matt Burke, who's been great for this organization.
Speaker 2 (01:53:52):
I know that Matt is listening Matt Thomas because he
always does so a believe it or not believe it
or not Texans assistant coaches. I think that most people
would get some wrong. Oh you mean just name them
off right?
Speaker 7 (01:54:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
Yeah, not the people, not the coordinators, not to Miko.
We all we obviously know who those four guys are.
Speaker 4 (01:54:11):
No, like Frankie Western Moreland, we know that's the tight
ends coach, right of course.
Speaker 3 (01:54:15):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
Yeah, there you go seven one three two on two
five seven ninety. Brandon, we'll get you involved. You want
to join them. Seveone three two on two five seven
ninety A move made by the Texans yesterday that signals certainty.
We'll discuss that right here. And don't forget Eric ed
Hoolme from NFL dot com. I'm gonna join us here
in about fifteen minutes. As it is the Morning Drive
with Danny Cole Sports Talks seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
Age down. The Morning Drive continues. Now, now here's Dan
and Cole.
Speaker 3 (01:54:46):
The point is is in the program, you'd be five
foot eleven. Now I'm five foot nine in the program.
Oh so you're even shorter than I got five foot nine.
That's how tall I am? You mean me in person?
Speaker 4 (01:54:55):
You're just very tall, and I'm very very much all right,
all right, I wasn't stop yelling.
Speaker 3 (01:55:01):
I wasn't following. I apologize. I'm sorry. We're midway through
a hump day, that's what we're here. No, we're not.
So you just you continue to you continue to poke
like you just keep doing it, exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
That's the point It's like what Tommy Norris said on
land Man, you're poking the wrong bear.
Speaker 4 (01:55:17):
I still haven't seen the episode yet. I'm gonna do
that tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:55:21):
It's a great show.
Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
Someone three two, one, two, five seven ninety is the
number to get in.
Speaker 3 (01:55:27):
Brandon will work you in.
Speaker 2 (01:55:27):
But uh Lake and Tomlinson let go by the Texans
yesterday waived and the report from Adam Schefter led you
to believe that it was a mutual parting right there
where it was, Hey, you've lost your starting spot. Well
can you cut me loose and let me go somewhere else? Sure, yes,
we can do that, but I mean, if nothing else.
It's something that had been a question to Demiico Ryance
(01:55:48):
for weeks about, uh, you know, do you have your
starting five? Do you do you feel like you've got
that group? And now, without a shadow of a doubt,
you do. Where You've got urs Y at the left,
you got uh, Titus Howard at the left guard. You
got Jake Andrews there at the center, and Ed Ingram
and also Trent Brown over there at the right tackle spot.
(01:56:10):
You know, Jared Patterson, Blake Fisher who's now in a
pseudo you know, third tight end. He's your eligible tackle.
And then you've also got Jew Scruggs. So those are
your three guys that you have active on game days.
Speaker 4 (01:56:22):
You've forgot one of the actor on game Dycevermin. I
was gonna say, you've got about Errick Kingston.
Speaker 3 (01:56:27):
He's easy to forget about, no offense to him.
Speaker 4 (01:56:29):
I mean, the guy that's never suited up for one
game in the Texans uniform this year is easy forget about.
Speaker 2 (01:56:33):
So there's always a player that that fits that, like
where it's just like, oh, they're inactive again.
Speaker 3 (01:56:37):
Who knew Dadian Pearce before that? Let's be real. Braxton
Barrios at times has been that dude this season? For
sure they have.
Speaker 2 (01:56:45):
But I mean, just you know, at least if nothing else,
I mean, and this is where you want to get
into the most certainty of certainties, and especially at the
offensive line spot, that's where you want it. And I
mean it's good that at least you feel that comfortable
with the group that you've got.
Speaker 3 (01:56:59):
And if you do have.
Speaker 2 (01:57:00):
Either of those guys goes down, well then you like
what you have already in the building.
Speaker 4 (01:57:05):
Okay, Now, do you really like Jared Patterson or Juice
scrugs to.
Speaker 3 (01:57:08):
Have to come on in or now. If they have to,
you're fine with it, but you don't want to have
to rely on them. Does that make sense? Okay, so cute.
Speaker 4 (01:57:15):
Let me let me throw out this scenario though, for you,
because this is where my brain goes, and it's very
much I think in the right right, but I could
be wrong. Let's say that Trent Brown goes down. Are
you keeping Titus Howard at left guard or are you
moving him over to right tackle?
Speaker 2 (01:57:29):
Again, I think he probably goes to right tackle, and
then you have Jared Patterson.
Speaker 3 (01:57:34):
Juice, I three you on that.
Speaker 4 (01:57:35):
I think for some reason, I just don't trust Blake
Fisher for more than fifteen STAPs a game, and I
don't think that I.
Speaker 3 (01:57:39):
Can put him there.
Speaker 4 (01:57:40):
That's that's where they've had him exactly, and you would
have to play him at the right.
Speaker 2 (01:57:43):
Now, you go to a game, the fifty seven is eligible.
Number fifty seven is eligible. You hear it in your
sleep whenever Blake Fisher comes into the game.
Speaker 3 (01:57:51):
It's like, well, I what I told you about yesterday
when I came You're tossing and turning at night, and
you hear the referee, and you're in your mind fifty
seven is eligible. Fifty seven is eligible.
Speaker 4 (01:58:00):
By the way, as you were drifting off to sleep
last night, did you hear tickle your tonsils down side?
Speaker 3 (01:58:03):
I did not.
Speaker 2 (01:58:04):
I didn't and and I will continue to not hear it,
in addition to other things that you try to throw
my way. Brandon, real quick before we get to Eric
at home. Brandon, what's going on?
Speaker 10 (01:58:15):
Good morning, Dan.
Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
Good morning, good morning.
Speaker 4 (01:58:21):
How are you good?
Speaker 3 (01:58:23):
What's telling your mind?
Speaker 1 (01:58:23):
Brandon asked?
Speaker 7 (01:58:26):
What about him? I saw you? We signed a picture.
Speaker 4 (01:58:30):
Yeah, what do you think about him? I like?
Speaker 7 (01:58:34):
I like it? You do?
Speaker 3 (01:58:35):
What what's your what's your favorite thing that you think
he's going to provide for the team this year?
Speaker 5 (01:58:41):
We need some wins and go into playoffs?
Speaker 3 (01:58:46):
Well do you think Dan, both of those?
Speaker 2 (01:58:48):
I mean, you know, if nothing else, you just want
to be able to have good options, Brandon, And that's
that's what he is. He's he's not being brought into
without a shadow of a doubt when a starting pitching spot.
But at least you gonna get a shot in spring training.
That's all he can ask for.
Speaker 5 (01:59:03):
Okay, tons, are we keeping him well?
Speaker 3 (01:59:07):
Tunsil's been gone.
Speaker 7 (01:59:10):
So okay, Oh I saw the quarterback CJ.
Speaker 8 (01:59:17):
Stroud.
Speaker 3 (01:59:18):
Yeah he's back. Yeah, he came back last week. But
you see a mountain person or something.
Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
No, I saw him when we played the Nicolets.
Speaker 3 (01:59:27):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (01:59:28):
Yep, he was back and he'll be back out on
the field again this week. To Brandon, Hey, we gotta
get Derek at Holme Man. We'll talk with you soon.
All right, I appreciate it, buddy. Yeah, you got CJ.
Stroud back, so we'll talk him. We'll talk Texans defense,
the Colts, everything in between. With our good buddy Eric
at Hoolme NFL dot com. He's hopping on with us
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He's Eric at Hoolme NFL dot com and clearly also
to given his cover photo on his Twitter account, is
a massive big Lebowski fan. So Eric points for you
on that. Clearly, clearly you are a golfer.
Speaker 3 (02:00:38):
So that is. That is good to know.
Speaker 2 (02:00:41):
But yeah, you know, the Lebowski talk, it could be there,
But for this one, I mean, it's it's a big
one on Sunday night for both Kansas City and for Houston.
So gut feeling right now for you who has more
of the pressure on them? Is it Kansas City with
a loss in your out or is it the Texans
with where they stand right now in their playoff seating?
Speaker 13 (02:01:04):
Yeah, every every Lebowski quote that I want to say
right now contains some sort of word that probably isn't
allowed on your station.
Speaker 4 (02:01:12):
Dump button, your element, Donnie, we we we know.
Speaker 13 (02:01:17):
You guys are sharper than I am this morning. Yeah,
that's a great question. I mean, I think right now,
given just the records, I mean, right, Texans are slightly ahead,
so and obviously every spot is going to be really
tightly contested there at the end. We don't know if
they can they can do enough to win the division
at this point. But yeah, I would say maybe Kansas
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City probably needs to you know, pulling inside straight here
and Rent went out, So I would I would nominally
say that that they're the team that probably needs it
more so to speak, but I think you could make
a case for both teams, just especially given the way
that the season started at owing three for Houston.
Speaker 8 (02:01:57):
But yeah, that's why I love this time of year.
Speaker 13 (02:02:00):
You know, everybody kind of labors through weeks ten to
thirteen or whatever, and then you get to the point
where you're like, all right, all these head head matchups
really do matter, And I can't wait to see what
Mahomes does against this defense, and likewise, what CJ does
against the Chiefs defense.
Speaker 8 (02:02:17):
The frankly needs a big performance.
Speaker 4 (02:02:19):
Eric, Let's stay on CJ for a minute. You know,
miss three games comes back. Not the best performance, still
two hundred and sixty eight passing yards. When you look
back at the film from the start of the season
to what you saw on Sunday's win, what are some
things that have drastically changed to where you feel like
that we're getting more of what we saw on twenty
twenty three on a regular basis.
Speaker 8 (02:02:38):
Yeah, No, obviously, h Sunday.
Speaker 13 (02:02:40):
I mean it felt like you got off to a
little bit of a rusty start. You know, the interception
and the one passed beyond the line of scrimmage and stuff,
you know, little things, not little things of an interception,
but you know what I mean, just kind of getting
the field of game back. But yeah, obviously just not
to be able to convert in early part of the season.
I mean, they allowed what thirty forty points in the
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first three games and lost and and you know, uh,
I think with Davis filling in as nicely as.
Speaker 8 (02:03:07):
He did, even with you know, some empty.
Speaker 13 (02:03:10):
Series and some little stretches and games where things weren't
going great, you know, you saw them just be a
more kind of efficient operation all around, even I think,
and you know, the offensive line seems to have kind
of settled in even with changes in guys.
Speaker 8 (02:03:25):
Moving positions and whatnot.
Speaker 13 (02:03:26):
And you know, the running back situation isn't the best
in the league by any means, but they you know,
I think these two can do an okay job of
of what they're being asked to do, outside of maybe
some pass protection stuff. But yeah, you know, I mean
obviously the receivers I think have stepped up in a
in a good way, and you know, seeing some some
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different playmakers other and Nico Collins has been a welcome sign.
Speaker 8 (02:03:51):
And this team just fascinates me.
Speaker 13 (02:03:53):
You know, I think at their at their peak, they're
going to be a very tough opponent for for anybody
down the stretch, and especially if.
Speaker 8 (02:03:59):
They can make into playoffs.
Speaker 13 (02:04:00):
I think that's where they can, you know, maybe cause
a little chaos.
Speaker 2 (02:04:04):
Eric at Hoolme again from NFL dot Com join us
here on the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole and
the and uh, let's flip it over to the defense
for the Texans. I mean, just this stretch that they've
been going through these last four games and you know,
obviously four straight wins for them, Just what is what
has stood out to you the most about that group?
Speaker 13 (02:04:23):
I mean, I really I don't know that there's a
true weakness on this group. You know, maybe you could say,
you know, a little depth of the on the defensive
line or something like that, but I mean, I don't know.
You guys probably know the ins and outs a little
better than I do for sure, and but you know,
the pressure they can create up front, the speed they have,
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you know, flowing.
Speaker 8 (02:04:45):
I think they're a good tackling team too. That's one
of the things. Obviously we think about some of the big.
Speaker 13 (02:04:50):
Hitters they have, but I mean they've been pretty reliable
in that in that regard to and think about some
of the scores they've given up, they've been like corner
of the end zone touchdowns, some remarkable throws and catches too.
Speaker 8 (02:05:02):
So you really have to beat your best to beat him.
Speaker 13 (02:05:04):
I mean, again not saying that a quarterback of Mahome's
ability can't do that sort of thing. Of course, right,
we know how good these guys are at their at
their peak, but I mean you really have to be
buttoned up. And you know, I you know Dale Jones
last week for playing on a broken leg, I.
Speaker 8 (02:05:21):
Know his mobility was really limited. I thought the guy
played okay.
Speaker 13 (02:05:25):
I mean I didn't think he was really like the problem,
but to be able to hold him in check, so
to speak, and then also contain Jonathan Taylor. Look, this
is an offense that was making teams look foolish for
the first half of the season, and the Texans held
him under wraps without having, you know, an explosive, dynamic offense.
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So that really, for me was just another reminder of
what they're where they're at, And I think they're the
best all around defense in the league.
Speaker 8 (02:05:54):
Maybe not by a massive.
Speaker 13 (02:05:56):
Margin, but I think certainly you would only put a
handful of teams up in that discussion right now, and
you know, hard not to just sit back and enjoy
watching you know, Hunter and Anderson and those guys rush
the passer Eric.
Speaker 4 (02:06:09):
When you look at this Texan team, I mean there's
stars everywhere, whether it be Derek Singley junior, you got
Will Anderson, Daniel Hunters having.
Speaker 3 (02:06:15):
A career year.
Speaker 4 (02:06:16):
Who's the unsung hero that has made such an impact
for Damika Ryans's unit over the last three years?
Speaker 8 (02:06:23):
Oh wow, Okay, that's a tough one.
Speaker 13 (02:06:25):
I mean, you know, some of the some of the
young dbs have really kind of stepped up, I think,
and played some good ball. And you know, I mean, look,
I think Cayden Bullock's a really good player, and whenever
I watch him, I really enjoy what I see and
I think he's done a nice job Tomorrow, Lassiter two,
same thing. I mean, I think both guys. I was
a huge Jail and Petrie fan coming out. You know,
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I think everybody loved his college tape and just the
energy you brought and you know, the versatility and the
hitting and all that. So he's obviously a fun piece
for this team when he's healthy and everything. So yeah,
I mean, I think, you know, we tend to look
at the guys up front and you know, the big
hits from Alshai here and guys like that. But still
you can't forget about the other secondary guys not named
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Stingley too. I mean, not trying to avoid giving him
his flowers, but you know there are other guys who
are doing a whale of a job back there too.
Speaker 2 (02:07:17):
Again, he's Eric at home NFL dot Com. Join us
here on the morning Drive, and Eric, let's get back
to you know, the defensive side in the in the
matchup that you know Andy Reid is going to try
to throw out them because we know he's one of
the best game planners. He's one of the best play
callers in the game. But I think about a guy
like Travis Kelsey at this stage of his career, can
he have a huge day against this Texans defense.
Speaker 8 (02:07:40):
I guess if.
Speaker 13 (02:07:41):
You're more worried about Rashid Rice, you know to me
that Rice is their kind of true difference maker again,
not the Kelsey. Can't you know Kelsey's a great guy
at this stage of his career, where if.
Speaker 8 (02:07:52):
You kind of forget about.
Speaker 13 (02:07:53):
Him, Oh yeah, by the way, he can you know
he can sting It for a thirty yard play. A
lot of these come on kind of schemed up where
he gets a little runway or something like that.
Speaker 8 (02:08:03):
But you know, I know that he and Pat.
Speaker 13 (02:08:05):
The first half of the year had a little trouble
making some connections. They were just a tick off, or
the throw would be a hair laid, or you know,
Kelsey would drop one that he usually catches, And so
there was a little bit of talk about are they
kind of losing some of their magic? But even with
his I would say small physical limitations at this stage
with career, he can't do all the same stuff he
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used to do.
Speaker 8 (02:08:28):
He's still so crafty and so.
Speaker 13 (02:08:30):
Smart setting up dbs and linebackers and you know, using
the wisdom that he's accrued over the years. And obviously
I'm sure he's watched a lot of this defense and
kind of has some ideas of what's gonna work and
what won't. And you know, you're talking about three of
the best offensive minds slash players and league history, and
Andy Reid, Mahomes and Kelsey, and you know they're gonna
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have solutions to even some of the hardest problems. But yeah,
I mean, if you're been on taking away their outside threats.
You know, it's not like Xavier Worthy has been remarkable
this season, I think in some ways even taking a
step back in some regards.
Speaker 8 (02:09:12):
But Rice, to me, really could be the true difference
maker there.
Speaker 13 (02:09:16):
So that's a scenario where you can't forget about the
Hall of Fame target. I mean, even if he's not
the same sort of vertical threat he.
Speaker 8 (02:09:23):
Used to be.
Speaker 4 (02:09:24):
Eric We've been having this conversation just from a broader
perspective about the AFC, where the Texans, if they win,
they moved to eight and five, there's an opportunity for
them to still win the division title. But you look
at Buffalo, you look at Baltimore, you look at Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (02:09:37):
You see what.
Speaker 4 (02:09:38):
New England is doing year one with a fourth place schedule.
Does it feel like that for the first time really
since Pat Mahomes took on over in twenty eighteen. The
AFC is a wide open race and anyone can take
this division, no.
Speaker 13 (02:09:51):
Doubt, no doubt in my mind. Yeah, I mean, I
think you could probably make the case. In the NFC,
A lot of people gave me hard time for keeping
the Rams number one of my power rankings. I get,
you know, I understand everyone's going to agree, but more
so on the AFC side because you have the two
wins leaders New England and Denver, you know, sort of
new kids to the party a little bit. Obviously, Denver
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had some success last year. You know, we kind of
knew it would come with Sean Payton and all that.
And I'm sure some people thought Mike Rabel had a
chance to turn this team around quickly or you know.
Speaker 8 (02:10:20):
But not to this level, not to eleven and two level.
Speaker 13 (02:10:25):
Should be a twelve and one too, if you think
about their one loss of the Raiders.
Speaker 8 (02:10:28):
But how good are they? Truly?
Speaker 13 (02:10:31):
I'm not trying to be the Patriots hater. I know
it's easy after twenty years of them destroying the league
for people to hate that franchise.
Speaker 8 (02:10:39):
Keck I grew up there.
Speaker 13 (02:10:40):
But I have my doubts because they haven't played the
strongest schedule yet. So a dominant performance against the Giants, great,
that's what you should do. I think I want to
know how they stack up against some of the heavyweights,
the Broncos daddling around for well, you guys know you
saw them, but I.
Speaker 8 (02:10:58):
Mean, like, you know, three quarters, they look like, okay,
how good is.
Speaker 3 (02:11:03):
This yeah won basically right, and.
Speaker 8 (02:11:06):
How many times?
Speaker 13 (02:11:07):
How many wins have they had this year the Broncos
where the other team went away going, oh we let
that one slip away. I'm I'm getting to the point
where I realized, Look, it's a repeated thing, right. We
saw the Chiefs do it last year, win a ton
of close games, you know by the hair on their
chitting chin chin, and everybody kind of doubted, and they
still got to a super Bowl, you know, blowout or not,
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they still made it all the way to New Orleans.
There's something to be said for having that ability to
win close games. But is anybody gonna push all their
chips in the middle and say the Broncos are definitely getting.
Speaker 8 (02:11:41):
To the either even the AFC Championship Game this year.
It's a big bet.
Speaker 13 (02:11:45):
You know, that's a that's a leap of faith for
me right now. So that's why I'm saying a team
like the Texans can cause the real noise. That's why
I think, you know, Josh Allen still has a chance.
I mean, you know what I mean that there's not
I understand, and your question was more about the non
Bills Chiefs type teams, but as mediocres.
Speaker 8 (02:12:05):
The bills have looked at times this year.
Speaker 13 (02:12:07):
I don't think you can bury them because of what's
happening on that side of the bracket.
Speaker 3 (02:12:12):
Great stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:12:13):
Eric the Dude bides he's Eric at home NFL dot
Com joined us here on the morning Drive.
Speaker 3 (02:12:18):
Eric, appreciate it, man. We'll catch up beginning here very soon.
Speaker 8 (02:12:21):
All right, Brent can't watch, so you guys.
Speaker 3 (02:12:23):
There, you go appreciate it. I love that. I didn't
expect that last one right here.
Speaker 4 (02:12:29):
We got him at the very beginning with the fastball
he gave him with the closet.
Speaker 2 (02:12:32):
He did, he did. He got us with the inside
fastball right there. We couldn't get around on him.
Speaker 4 (02:12:38):
A good job by him, he said a lot of
the things I completely agree with. It's fools gold with
New England, it's fools goal with Denver. Like, yes, in
that standpoint, if the Texans can win on Sunday, you
gain a lot of confidence that they can go to
until with almost anybody in the anybody in the conference,
especially because you've already beaten multiple.
Speaker 3 (02:12:56):
Of these teams.
Speaker 2 (02:12:57):
Yeah, and that's something that's still ahead of the Texan
And a couple of other things that he mentioned that
I thought were interesting that we'll carry over to the
other side too, also Carrington Harrison from ninety six to
five up there in Kansas City. We'll get the chief
side of things for Sunday night. We'll have all that
right here as it is in the Morning Drive with
Dan and Cole Sports Talk seven.
Speaker 5 (02:13:18):
Ninety Dan Matthews, Cole Thompson.
Speaker 1 (02:13:23):
This is the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole.
Speaker 2 (02:13:28):
Chris Cleman's going to step down at Kansas State. Yea,
so sounds like Colin Kleine is going back to his
alma mater to be the head coach at Kansas State.
Speaker 3 (02:13:37):
So offensive coordinator he.
Speaker 4 (02:13:40):
Was always he was always the movie they ever like
a climbing and again, good for him to be able
to go.
Speaker 2 (02:13:44):
You would have possibly thought that Penn State could be
in play, especially with just their absolute just dumpster fire
that they're dealing with right now at the coaching search.
Speaker 4 (02:13:53):
It's so funny that we just saw a coach announce
his retirement and less than ten minutes later we now
know who was gonna be the next head of coach
in Manhattan. Meanwhile, all of the players at Penn State
are committing to Virginia Tech while they're trying to figure
out on national signing Day, Hey, who's gonna be coaching
these guys?
Speaker 3 (02:14:11):
They were the first ones.
Speaker 2 (02:14:12):
Second they Okay, so the second one is right, Kiah,
because Arkansas beat them to it, but they were early
on in the process and like you have continuously struck out. Wait,
not good there, but that's their problem. Also to sounds
like Brian Hartline is gonna leave Ohio State and go
to South Florida.
Speaker 4 (02:14:30):
So another Penn State option is that leaving and going elsewhere. Yeah,
he's seen State College Tampa, Florida. I think I want
the ones that are build a new stadium state College
where they never beat Ohio State, South Florida, where I
never had the play.
Speaker 2 (02:14:44):
Ohio State can build the program and then go get
a larger job.
Speaker 3 (02:14:48):
It's gonna be there for one year, and then Florida
State's gona hire.
Speaker 2 (02:14:50):
There you go someone three two and two five seven
ninety is the number to get in Speaking of, you know,
our talk with Eric Dave on the North Side.
Speaker 3 (02:14:59):
Once weigh in on that, Dave, good morning.
Speaker 14 (02:15:03):
Good morning guys.
Speaker 3 (02:15:04):
Everything going very well.
Speaker 14 (02:15:06):
Ye who who is who is Eric? Did the guy
you talked to talk to.
Speaker 2 (02:15:10):
Eric at Holmes with NFL dot Com. I think he
was with Yahoo before, but uh, he's been in the
game for some time.
Speaker 3 (02:15:17):
Great guy, a.
Speaker 14 (02:15:18):
Great guy, and great research and analogy on NFL analogy
by him.
Speaker 7 (02:15:25):
Uh. Uh.
Speaker 14 (02:15:27):
What I want to say is that, like, uh, you know,
the Texans basically, uh, when the schedule came out, they
circled three teams the Chiefs, the Ravens, and uh the
Bills as one of as of those three teams that
that needed to be to be able to be even
to be in the playoffs. So I mean that, uh,
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but great analogy by uh Eric scouting the Texas defense,
I mean the Texas defense. I mean it, they're incredible.
I mean they really are both count both defense. But
the thing I'm worried about is that other NFL analysts are,
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not to quip, are not so critical of the Houston
Texans because of their offense. And why is that?
Speaker 2 (02:16:20):
Well, I mean I just think that it's an expectations thing.
Appreciate the call, Dave. I mean, there's very low expectations.
It's it's again, you know, have low expectations, be pleasantly surprised.
I think that pretty much at this point with the
Texans offense, that's the way we look at them, like
if they if they score more than twenty four points,
it's oh man, they had a really good game.
Speaker 3 (02:16:41):
Well, you face off against a really crappy defense. Well,
I mean, and then that helps too.
Speaker 2 (02:16:45):
Well, I mean in the case of they're not like
incredibly crappy, but they're not great. I mean, you want
to scored sixteen against the Tennessee Titans, so that kind
of goes both ways.
Speaker 4 (02:16:53):
Well, also, hid your backup quarterback and let's let's be real,
outside of a sixteen point comeback.
Speaker 3 (02:16:58):
Wait a minute, people wanted him to art even when
CJ came back.
Speaker 4 (02:17:01):
Yeah, they also wanted to have who was it? Oh yeah,
I forgot. Chip Kelly has their office cordinat of this offseason.
How's that going?
Speaker 7 (02:17:08):
Well?
Speaker 4 (02:17:08):
I was one of them, and I know, and thankfully
I think that you've learned from the error of your ways.
Speaker 3 (02:17:13):
Have you said to today I apologize, No, I haven't.
Speaker 4 (02:17:17):
So you're still believe that Chip Kelly should be the
office coordinator here.
Speaker 2 (02:17:19):
I just I thought that somebody with play calling experience
should have been. But I mean, look, chip Kelly was
the name that was out there, and I felt like
it would have made sense. I mean it's also too
I mean Chip Kelly with CJ. Stroud and Nico Collins
as opposed to basically Brock Powers.
Speaker 4 (02:17:37):
I mean, I can still tell you right now, I'm
very thankful for finally having my point be made that
Gino Smith was the most overrated quarterback in the last
three years.
Speaker 3 (02:17:44):
But yeah, I mean, yess, that's fine.
Speaker 4 (02:17:46):
I'll continue a little bit that I had to deal
with trolls on freaking Twitter for two years. Tell me
why Gino Smith, because of his EPA value, was a
top ten quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (02:17:56):
We still go on that.
Speaker 4 (02:17:58):
So I'm fun with that because Chip kel who I
will agree you put him in another situation, probably as
a job right now, even though he was going behind
Pete Carroll's back and running into completely different offense than
he was telling everybody, would probably be a good fit.
I mean, I do agree in that standpoint. Uh, But again,
the Texans, you give me twenty four points.
Speaker 3 (02:18:16):
Offensively, I think that you're gonna.
Speaker 4 (02:18:18):
Win the football game, and whether or not that's Davis
Mills or CJ. Stroud, it's because of how good your
defense is because you also got to remind yourself, Dan,
if you're scoring twenty four points, that means that your
defense is probably holding them.
Speaker 3 (02:18:31):
To twenty one. Twenty one is good enough.
Speaker 2 (02:18:33):
I just you know, and we've talked about the magic
number part of it. I think you guys know you
know where. I feel like that is the sweet spot
for the Texans offense be able to help out this defense.
But I you know, I just I also, you know,
just talking with Eric, I gotta tell you I feel
even better about this because I feel like this is
a bad matchup for Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (02:18:52):
I don't think it's a great one.
Speaker 4 (02:18:54):
I think that's still the fact that the Patrick Mahomes
is always going to be the outlier in the East
in the hole, I.
Speaker 3 (02:18:58):
Mean until I And here's the thing. So CJ. Stroud
has gone up against Kansas City twice in his career.
He has a.
Speaker 4 (02:19:03):
Complete percentage of sixty one percent. He has two touchdowns,
two interceptions. One game he was out out of the
end up entirely. They only can trust the rushing attack.
I gotta see CJ. Stroud prove that he can actually
go toe to toe with Patrick Mahomes and meet the
numbers wise, because until then it's very easy to say
fifteen's got custon summer.
Speaker 3 (02:19:23):
But here's the beauty of it, though.
Speaker 2 (02:19:25):
I think for Stroud, the pressure kind of comes off
of him because it's, hey, don't turn the football over.
We win this game, Whereas I feel like with Mahomes,
it's yeah, you've got Raychie Rice and he means a
lot to you. You got Worthy too, same deal there.
But again, I mean it gets back to I'm no
longer worried about Jason ke Jason Kelsey. I'm not worried
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about him either for a while. But I'm not worried
about Travis Kelsey. I mean, I'm not in any sense
of the word worried about him. And I'm not worried
about Isaiah Pacheco or Kareem Hunt. I mean behind that
offensive line that Kan City has been and out this year,
good luck?
Speaker 3 (02:20:03):
Are luck getting those guys going?
Speaker 4 (02:20:04):
Are you worried though, about Chris Jones coming up the
middle against Ed Ingram and Jared Patterson slash Jake Andrews
to go take down CJ Strout.
Speaker 2 (02:20:13):
I mean not as much from the standpoint of you
can be able to double team him and be able
to give him extra attention. But I mean, I still
think you are going to see pressure on CJ. That's
not going to change.
Speaker 4 (02:20:25):
I don't think that Chris Jones is the number one
defensive tackle in the NFL. I do think he is
the best pass rushing defensive tackle in the NFL. And
that's the scary part to where I think that if
you aren't able to double team him and you are
leaving other openings, that could lead to a couple of sacks,
pressures or better yet, ill advice throw from CJ that
leads to interceptions, turnovers in the wrong standpoint. And by
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the way, you give Patrick Mahomes two minutes, that's still
far too much time.
Speaker 2 (02:20:48):
Well, good time to get even more about one of
the guys you just brought up there in the Chiefs
as a whole. And we'll do that with Carrington Harrison
from ninety six to five up there in a Kansas
City as so we will catch up with them right
here on the morning Drive with Danny Cole Sports Talk
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Speaker 3 (02:22:45):
Harrison karens I'm just gonna start off with this, what.
Speaker 4 (02:22:48):
Has gone wrong over the last thirteen weeks for the
Kandisy Chiefs to where it feels like missing the playoffs
is not just the possibility, it's almost a reality.
Speaker 7 (02:23:00):
Well, I don't want to take of the rest of
you guys show, so I'll try to just summarize it
here in a quick paragraph. I would say the two
things have gone wrong for the Chiefs. Number One, it's
been passed Russ. The Chiefs haven't had a sack in
eleven quarters. And I don't care how good of a
team you are if you can't disrupt timing from the
other team's quarterback. That's going to cause a problem. So
that's been number one. I would say number two is
(02:23:22):
last year the Chiefs were the best. It's five minutes
left in the game, it's a tie ball game. The
Chiefs won eleven to zero in one score games. Last year.
They were the best finishers, the best closers in the league.
Last year. They haven't been that this year. It's been
the exact opposite. I've been making the analogy on my show.
It's like, you know when you play roulette. Let's say
you only play colors and you play red, and just
(02:23:42):
Ran keeps hitting and keep hitting and keep hitting. Well,
now it's turned the other way. Now Black continues to hit,
and now the Chiefs have kind of found themselves on
the other side of the spectrum. So I would say
those have been the two big things. I would say
their inability to close in games and their inability to
get to the other team's quarterback. Those have been the
two things that I've done them.
Speaker 3 (02:23:59):
Man and Carrington.
Speaker 2 (02:24:01):
I mean, it seems like they've got to go five
for five to even have a chance to make the playoffs.
I mean, you got Patrick Mahomes, you got a shot.
You got Andy Reid, you got a shot. But I mean,
for everything you just mentioned right there, does it kind
of feel like I mean, that's just too much of
a daunting task even for those two guys to be
able to overtake.
Speaker 7 (02:24:18):
I mean, I have them losing this week to the
Houston Texans. I really like the way that Houston has
played the last couple of weeks. I find it hard
to believe that you can be six and six and
now tell me that you have the ability to go
five and zero, just based on how the Chiefs have played.
I mean, let's remove the game against Tennessee, Let's remove
the game against Las Vegas. Those are two bottom eight
teams in the National Football League. You have to beat Houston,
(02:24:40):
Denver and Los Angeles. We're talking about three potential playoff teams.
Kansas City just hasn't shown me that they're going three
to oho in those games. They might go two to
one for sure in those games, but something's going to happen.
A penalty, a turnover, a bad drive. Something has just
happened at every single turn for this team. Right now.
I don't have them making the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (02:25:00):
Aaron Tick, can you talk a little bit about what's
going on with the offensive line. Josh Simmons steeling with
an injury. Tray Smith was out last week.
Speaker 3 (02:25:06):
What is his status for this game? And then of
course you got a revolving door right tackle.
Speaker 7 (02:25:11):
Yeah, I mean, right now, I mean you just kind
of summarize it. I mean right now, I mean Josh Simmons,
their starting left tackle, has a broken wrist. I don't
believe he's gonna play. We'll find out today, but I
assume he's going to be out. Tray Smith he's out
with a high ankle sprain, and they're also not going
to have their right tackle. So a big reason on
why I'm picking Houston in this game is I think
Houston's strength is their defensive line. I think their strength
(02:25:33):
is the ability to get after the other team's quarterback.
You know, watching these last couple of Texas game, watching
will Anderson just dominate the Buffalo Bill's offensive line. If
he was doing that to Buffalo's offensive line, what is
he going to do to Kansas City's sixth, seventh, and
eighth offensive lineman. So that's where I think that Texans
have a major advantage because the Chiefs are super banged
up upfront.
Speaker 2 (02:25:53):
Again Carrington Harrison from ninety six to five up there
in Kansas City, join us here on the Morning Drive
with Dana Carrington. I'm just curious, I mean, because you know,
this is a little bit of a long term question here,
but I mean, just with the way that this season
has gone, what is the fan base. Are they looking
at it as it's a bad season, just tee it
back up next year and we're right back in position,
(02:26:16):
or is there legit concern that like maybe this is
the end of this run.
Speaker 7 (02:26:20):
I would say it's probably a lot more just retool
the roster. I think the Chiefs kind of made a
critical air that, in hindsight, we should have saw after
the Chiefs lost the Super Bowl to Tampa Bay. It
was kind of a run it back mentality, Hey, we're
just going to bring back the same pieces, the same guys.
You know, Hey, we'll get back on track. It worked
the first time. I think this is like a Hangover three. Sure,
(02:26:41):
it's the same characters that it was the first movie,
but it just doesn't have the same last It doesn't
have that same kind of feel. I mean, if you've
been watching the Chiefs team and this is the same
Chiefs team you've been watching for the last two to
three seasons, But then you look at the rest of
the AFC. Didver is completely different, Indianapolis is very different
in New England. So a lot of those competitors just
feel like fresh teams, and Kansas City feels a little
(02:27:02):
bit stale. So at least for me, I'm not going
to ever advocate for them to fire Andy Reid. We're
not close to there. I don't think they should fire
their general manager, Brett Viach, but some things got to change.
They got enough on offense, so they shouldn't be as
stagnant as they feel offensively when it comes to the
defensive line some of those things. So I think at
least I'm pushing for some widespread coaching changes. And also
(02:27:23):
I just think that Chiefs need a roster refresh. I
think they've kind of runned this iteration back just one
too many times, and now we just kind of start
fresh and just find some guys closer to their prime.
And this team just needs to hit on the draft again.
Speaker 4 (02:27:37):
Okay, you set me up for this one, dude, so
I apologize. But basically we're entering for Tom Brady's two
point zero with Patrick Mahomes the era where they didn't
win a Super Bowl from two thousand and seven to
twenty fourteen.
Speaker 3 (02:27:47):
Right, that's where we are in Kansas City, Land, Right, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:27:50):
I mean I would say somewhat like that, but I
mean this is where I think it's a little bit different. Man.
When Tom Brady was thirty years old, the Patriots were undefeated. Like,
it's hard to kind of quantify how big of a
disappointment this is. Like, if every player was available in
the National Football League in a draft, you would take
Patrick Mahomes the number one overall pick. I think he's
the best player. I think he's the best quarterback. I
(02:28:11):
think he's the most important player in the league. For
you to outright and potentially miss the postseason with him
being healthy and available all year is unacceptable. If he different.
If Mahomes got hurt in Week three, he came to
see he played with a backup quarterback all season, and
with six and six you kind of use that as
a oh, well, they don't have their quarterback. Then they've
been healthy. Really, up until the last two weeks, this
(02:28:32):
has been a healthy team and they just can't get going.
It's kind of one step forward, two steps back. It's
been like that all season.
Speaker 2 (02:28:40):
Travis Kelsey has been a problem for the Texans defense
in the past, but I mean you talked about this
sid Sexans defense that's playing as good as anybody right now.
Can he still be that guy on Sunday Night against them?
Speaker 7 (02:28:51):
Yeah, one hundred percent. Man. I give Kelsey a lot
of credit. You know, Kelsey at the very beginning of
the season just kind of talked about, you know, I
was kind of distracted. I'm doing that, I'm doing that,
and I kind of let the you know, I let
the main thing not be the main thing. I give
Kelsey a lot of credit for kind of rededicating himself,
really getting his body right, and having an explosive year.
I mean, Kelsey last year averaged eight point nine yards
(02:29:12):
per catch. That's terrible. He's at twelve this season, so
you just want to talk about a big jump, just
a much more explosive a healthier player, a better player.
I mean, I'm at the point where I'm not one
hundred percent sure if Kelsey retires at the end of
the season. I think he's going to retire at the
end of season, but he's still playing a high level.
I think he has the support of his fiance. Say, like,
(02:29:33):
I could definitely see us anario on which Kelsey comes
back on a one year deal, and it's kind of
the understanding this is the final year of his contract.
It's basically what Jason did. Jason didn't retire at the
end of his first contract. He signed another one and
then it was just kind of clear when Jason I
thought was walking off the field in his last game. Yeah,
Jason's about to retire.
Speaker 4 (02:29:53):
For the defensive side of things, you know, I truly
believe when he's as peak the best defensive pass rushing
defense tackle on the NFL's christ Jianes. This past season,
he has three sacks and they haven't come in back
back games.
Speaker 3 (02:30:05):
What's the missing element there?
Speaker 4 (02:30:06):
And is he somebody who has regressed enough with this
new contract where you're wondering what does the future entail
with him long term out in Kansas City.
Speaker 5 (02:30:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:30:15):
I'm just the believer that your window is never open
as long as you think it is. In the NFL.
So like, if you're a team like the Lions, for example,
and the Lions probably thought they had a three four
year run, Nope, it was a two year run. You
had your chance at the NFC Championship game. You had
the one seed. You're done. I think a lot of
times with these contracts, you're thinking, oh, well, we got
three four guaranteed years. No, man, you really got two.
(02:30:37):
Where I just think if you want to look at
as a kind of what I mentioned in the very
very beginning, what's gone wrong with the Chiefs. Man, If
you're leading sack guy has five and we're at December,
your pass rush is a problem. Chris Jones is number
two of the team you just mentioned it. He has three.
They had a player Mike Dana. He's on the defensive line.
Three years, twenty four million dollars. He has four tackles
(02:30:59):
this year in one sack. Like that's where this defense
has really really underperformed. And again I don't really care
who you are. I don't care how good your defensive
coordinator is. If you can't get pressure with your front four,
everything else in your defense breaks down.
Speaker 2 (02:31:13):
Texans have some vertical threats in Nico Collins and looks
like they're trying to get Jayden Higgins there. And I
see that the Chiefs questionable on Brian Cook and also
Chris Roland Wallace. How do you think that secondary is
going to stack up against this Texans offense.
Speaker 7 (02:31:30):
Yeah, they certainly got enough options, I think. Aside from that,
I mean, they struggle against the Cowboys, but the Cowboys
probably have two of the top five receivers in the league.
The secondary just really isn't the problem with them. It's
kind of been kind of a pick your own poison.
As I just mentioned, they don't get pressure with their
front four, so it just kind of creates scenarios where
the Chiefs felt like they got a blitz. They gotta
(02:31:51):
sim five, they got us in six, they got us
in seven, and it puts those receivers on island. Like
I like Nico Collins to have a big catch in
this game. For those of the gamble out there, I
take a deco Collins over longest reception in this game
and just him having one big play down the field.
I really like this Texans team. I kind of run
into this. You guys probably run into this as well.
I feel like nobody likes anybody in the AFC, and
(02:32:13):
we just find reasons to poke holes in Denver or
New England or Indianapolis. Well, somebody has to go to
the Super Bowl from the AFC. It's not gonna be
two NFC team. So you got to pick the team
in the AFC that you like, what can they do consistently?
And I like C J. Stroud. I think you got
a young developing running back in Woodie Barts. I think
they got the best defense of the AFC. Like, this
(02:32:34):
is a Texans team that if you can get through
this game on the road against Kansas City after winning
in Indianapolis, you just can't tell me that that defense
can't translate and they can't go anywhere and win in January.
Speaker 4 (02:32:44):
So now, guys, just remind yourself. You can go to
ATC dot Harrison on Twitter, and then when the Houston
Texans don't make the Super Bowl this year, you can
blame car Carrington Harrison for all that exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:32:55):
Don't do that, the man, what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (02:32:56):
Cardton Harrison from ninety six to five, the fan in
Kansas City. Carrington, thanks again for joining us today and
congratulations on the new guy coming from college station back
to Manhattan.
Speaker 7 (02:33:08):
Yeah, of course, man, I appreciate you guys, thanks for
having me on today.
Speaker 2 (02:33:10):
I appreciate Carrington Harrison again from ninety six to five
up there in Kansas City. So I mean something I
think to chew On that he just talked about right there,
that we'll do here on the other side. And then
I got a couple of other little interesting ones. Is
one of them a drunken ran page by something you
wouldn't expect. Notice I didn't say a human And also
(02:33:31):
a relationship no no, that I think was just committed.
We'll do all of that here before we hand it
off to the Matt Thomas Show with Ross here on
your home of the Astros and the Rockets.
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Speaker 1 (02:35:03):
Back to Danny cole As the morning Drive.
Speaker 2 (02:35:06):
Cruise is on, like it just feels like either through
injuries or just the Chiefs not being able to get
out of their own way, like this is one that
the Texans play again. Capable offense and keep playing the
defense that you're playing. I could see twenty seven to seventeen.
Speaker 4 (02:35:24):
I'm gonna give you twenty hours to think about this,
and we're gonna come back tomorrow and you're gonna have
an opportunity to answer this question for me and you too.
Seven ninety. The Texans always get the guaranteed win. They
always find a way to get that signature moment. They
feel like that they've taken this step forward. Late in
the season, they find a way to ruin all the
good mojo by losing to a bad team. Next two
(02:35:46):
weeks after this, Cardinals Raiders. I feel confident about the Texans.
I also feel confident that, as of what I've seen
for now, Jacoby Verser, Gino Smith's gonna have a career day.
Speaker 2 (02:35:56):
Well, we don't call you long teas for for nothing,
Cole Thompson. So that's that's a long tease right there.
Speaker 3 (02:36:01):
It's a good way to make you think about it.
Speaker 2 (02:36:03):
So let it stew. Let it up there, all right?
Relationship no no, or a drunken non person. What do
you want to go with first?
Speaker 3 (02:36:13):
Oh, I thought this was a game.
Speaker 4 (02:36:15):
I always like hearing about the sad sack first, So
let's go with that relationship.
Speaker 2 (02:36:19):
Relationship no no, So Clay Thompson and Megan the Stallion
have been a thing. And apparently Megan cooked up Thanksgiving
dinner for the Thompson family and she really put her
heart into it, like she well, I mean, look.
Speaker 3 (02:36:32):
You know, let's see.
Speaker 2 (02:36:32):
I think her thought process was the quickest way to
someone's hardest through their stomach, which she's right about that.
But this is where things kind of start to get
off the tracks. Is Clay's got a boat, and Clay
has renamed it SS Stallion, Houston, Texas. There's a few
things in relationships that usually do not end well. Naming
(02:36:55):
boats after them, tattooing each other's names, or even like
somebody else I knew where in lieu of wedding rings,
they tattooed their wedding ring on each of them.
Speaker 3 (02:37:06):
I've seen the initial I haven't seen that. And then
they got divorced.
Speaker 4 (02:37:09):
Yeah, it's just gonna be a pain, and they asked
to go ahead and get it removed later on.
Speaker 2 (02:37:12):
Just I'm just saying that, like, you know, like, look,
I understand that things like seem like they're sure things,
but when it comes to relationships, there's no sure things.
Speaker 3 (02:37:21):
I just understand will change. Times change, it all changes.
Speaker 4 (02:37:24):
I just understand why you got to bring Houston into
your messy relationship, Clay.
Speaker 2 (02:37:27):
You know, it's just you got to you gotta have
it like you know, the the slip where where where
it's two.
Speaker 4 (02:37:33):
No, just just you're not from here. I don't care
if she's a part of your life. I don't care
if she's from here. Keep Houston, ouvitgue And we don't
like you either, I.
Speaker 3 (02:37:41):
Say, we don't like you for too reies.
Speaker 4 (02:37:42):
And you played in Golden State and you were killing
for us, and then you went to Dallas of all places,
and you suck there.
Speaker 2 (02:37:48):
That that you definitely were all right the non person,
because you know, you hear drunken rampage and you hear Ashland,
Virginia in a liquor store ransacked with bottles of booze
all over the ground. So you're thinking, all right, well,
you know somebody tried to get out of here.
Speaker 4 (02:38:04):
Hobo decided to go ahead and break into a family
ome liquor store.
Speaker 2 (02:38:08):
You could say that it was nature's hobo because it
is the naturally masked bandit known as a raccoon. Where
employees get to a liquor store in Ashland, Virginia and
noticed that there were bottles of booze all over the ground,
and then went into the bathroom to find the culprit,
(02:38:29):
a drunken raccoon, where as soon as they got inside
the toilet, not the toilet, right next to the toilet,
and the picture that they have is the raccoon with
all four sets of paws spread out on the floor.
And you probably too, if you're the raccoon, it's probably like,
what the hell just happened to me? Like, that's probably
the feeling right there is that the raccoon had, because
(02:38:52):
it's not like, you know, animals have an idea of
you know, oh man, I'm gonna really tie one on here.
I sounded really old in saying that, but man, I'm
gonna get after it. Yes, you did sound very old, Yeah,
I did. I fully look at a previous incarnation of
this show. There was a guy that called me a
very basic white guy. I just got to live up
to it every.
Speaker 3 (02:39:09):
Once in a while, Happy Humpedy.
Speaker 2 (02:39:11):
No, it's not all right, and hopefully Rocky the raccoon
is fine. One of our dogs once got drunk on
Christmas Eve.
Speaker 3 (02:39:18):
How'd that go?
Speaker 7 (02:39:19):
Well?
Speaker 2 (02:39:20):
She got up on the table and ate cinnamon rolls
that had not risen yet in the East, turned to
alcohols and then we had to take her to you know,
the animal hospital. And I mean we had a good
explanation for what happened, and they were like, oh, yeah, yeah,
we see it.
Speaker 3 (02:39:34):
Yeah, this happens all the time.
Speaker 4 (02:39:35):
One of my friends buddies dogs, decided to go ahead
and have a couple of month shies because of there
were some pnimals that were laying around them were not
necessary to be out.
Speaker 2 (02:39:42):
Gotta be careful, I gotta watch out for the four
legged friends, all right. Cole Thompson, appreciate you, buddy Triple
Emmanuel Elmore always appreciated both of you.
Speaker 3 (02:39:51):
Always appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (02:39:52):
I'm Dan Matthews Matt Thomas Show with Ross coming up next.
Speaker 3 (02:39:55):
We will talk to you in twenty hours.
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