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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is the morning drive with Dad and Cole.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's like supposed to be. When you see there you go,
and that's where I was going. Is because like Jimmy Buffett,
for example, Yeah, you know where he was most popular.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
He was in what was Japan something like that.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Well, at least stateside. He was most popular in the
Midwest and in the Northeast. Okay, never mind, I remember that.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
So you probably he was big in Milwaukee, he was
big in like, uh, Chicago, right, he was big in
Indianapolis and all the places where it snows like hell
right yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
So I mean, you know, you have people who are
going through, you know, the winter, and they're just like,
my god, it just feels like we're never going to
get warm weather ever again. So they put themselves in
that mindset with a little bit of Margaritaville and you know,
son of a son of a sailor, you know, just
just all of them.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
So I'm with you on that. I get you on it.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
So maybe because I am I am a person who
does have some Hawaiian shirts, been over to the islands.
And the funny thing is is people don't you know,
realize that they actually do wear Hawaiian shirts like that
is like an everyday thing. So it's not like, you know, hey,
I'm gonna look like a tourist moron. It's like, no,
you'll blend right in.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
For me, it's just all I want to look like
a tourist moron on Friday afternoons. That's my opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Well, it puts you in a good mood, and if
you're in a good mood, then I can be in
a good mood too. But anyway, as I mentioned, the
Texans dealing with a little bit of injury issues, so
we'll get into it even more as the show goes along.
But Tim Settle Junior is done for the season undergoing
foot surgery, and then one at least in the immediate
that is going to hurt. Even worse is it seems

(01:39):
like you're not gonna have Kamario last year.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
My loss is not playing tomorrow. I'm on Sunday. He
will not be out there. You're going through two days
of practice. And this is where again when we go
to the early stages of what is the injury report,
I take Wednesday with a grain of salt. Hey, they're
not out there. Okay, it's week fourteen, of the season.
You're allowed to have arrest ding. You're allowed to go
ahead and get your body right. You're allowed to go
go through the film study, going the workout, going to

(02:02):
the hot tub, make sure that you're good for Thursday.
Thursday's the day that is always considered around the NFL
for games on Sunday as the toughest practice of the
week because of it's not full on hitting, but it
is enough to where you got to see if you're
actually ready to play. No, Kamari lost ye yesterday. The
only other player that was out was Jamal Hill, he
was dealing with a concussion. Jalen Reid who's got a

(02:24):
metal plate in his forearm.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
All of them, we already.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Know two of them are not playing on Sunday. You
got a third one. And the Texans, just to make
sure that they had depth, they picked up a cornerback
on waiver some Buffalo. So that's the final indication that
I need to know, Hey, it's gonna be the Tremon
Smith and Derek Stingley show against Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
And there's also a trickle down effect too because Tremon
Smith part of the kick return game is he's always
back there with Jalen Nole. Usually Nol is the guy
that's returning, So I mean, you know you're probably going
to have to take him off of that because I mean,
you're getting thinner in a spot that you really need
the help. Because I know that in the other huge

(03:04):
games that the Texans have had this season, the wild
card for me has been the run game. It has been,
you know, against Buffalo, you got to you gotta stop
James Cook for the most part, you limited him. You
stopped you know, Christian McCaffrey when you played against him.
I'm not worried about Isaiah Pacheco and Kareem Hunt.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Are you worried about Damian Pierce, who's not ready to
play Dave two? Well? Probably it probably not.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
But I mean this is one though, where the worry
for me is the receiving game.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
I mean that's in Andy Reid.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I mean, just as you know, much of an offensive
genius as he is, he's going to find ways for
Rashie Rice, for Xavier Worthy and then intentionally mentioning him. Third,
although I think a lot of people probably say no,
you more on mentioned him first, is Travis Kelcey.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
And that's that's where it's gonna be.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
How do you feel about when people say that Travis
Kelcey's is the number one wide receiver for the kant
See Chiefs. How do you feel about that sentiment in
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
I mean, they're probably wrong, but I think at this point,
I just I kind of think of Travis kelce at
this point of his career, kind of like Justin Verlander
at the end of his Here.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
See what I say is, if you have Travis Kelcey
as your number one wide receiver whatever that is, you
can play tight ending, be wide receiver. The guy is
just a good receiving option. He's offered some value blocking,
but just receiving standpoint, you got a lot of problems
at your receiving core. If Travis kelce at thirty five
is the go to guy, then you have to remind
yourself that Rashie Rice missed the first six game of
the season with the suspension, and Xavier Worthy miss two

(04:31):
games because of injury. So the numbers would justify that
right now. A dude who has missed a game this
year versus two guys that have missed multiple games, that's
why he's in the number one spot. My theory is
is that unfortunately he's gonna stay in the number one
spot this year. So therefore, you take out Travis Kelcey,
you gotta feel pretty good about you ended up winning
this football game, because I will say this, I don't

(04:53):
even care you said, oh, well, you know, look at
the run game in the past, and look at what
happened when they faced off against Buffalo, when they faced
off against when they faced off against on last week Indianapolis,
they were to slow down James Cook and Job and
Taylor Brother slowing down at kan say, Chiefs team that's
in the bottom half of the league in rushing yards
is holding them to like twenty yards, Like if you're
giving up more than twenty, if you're in that range

(05:15):
of like sixty seven to eighty yards or the entire team,
holding them in the twenty is not a miracle. That
just shows you how incompetent the rushing attack is. For
Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Well, and you know, I think that with Kansas City,
it's kind of one of those where, you know, we
were talking about it yesterday and a couple of listeners
were like, hey, hey, you know, you can't use past seasons.
But the point that we were using in that argument
was you know just the patterns and at least you
know once it happens, Okay, twice, it's a coincidence. Three times, Yeah,
that's a pattern, and the Texans are trying to avoid that.

(05:44):
But they could stay with that off for another week
because I mean, you're facing a team that you do
have to be ready to play. But the difference here is,
I mean, in the past, with the Chiefs offensive line,
the run game was an issue. Now with this Chiefs
offensive line and the banged up I mean, and they
might be down a couple.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Of starters, they're gonna be down three starters in this game.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Like they already put Josh Simmons on the IR so
he's out at left tackle. You don't have Trey Smith back.
He missed last week's game. Juwan Taylor left in the
middle of the third quarter of last week's game against Dallas.
Two of them are that practice. One's on the IR.
You were going to have three backup offensive lineman protecting
who many believe is the best quarterback in the NFL.

(06:26):
Let's takeet a step further. You have three backup offensive
lineman protecting probably the best quarterback in the NFL. In
a must win game, going up against a freak a
joyd that is known as the terminator down here, and
Deneil Hunter coming off the other edge. Pick your poison.
You getting hit? Pat like that, take a slide, go
look at the referee and say, where the hell's my flag?
Why are you not protecting me? More doesn't matter. You're

(06:48):
gonna get hit, and you're gonna get.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Hit a lot on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Well, I mean, and that's the thing is both tackles
seem like they're out. Jalen Moore is the next one
to slide in over at left tackle Juwan Taylor. I mean,
it seems like he's probably gonna be out. So then
like who Wannia Morris or somebody start somewhere. And and
then I mean right guard for Trey Smith, the guy
that's been incredibly important to that offensive line, that he

(07:10):
looks like he's going to be out. And I mean,
you're kind of having the shuffle around there. So it's
funny to look at the Chiefs and and I think
that the Texans can kind of look at them and say, hey,
wait a minute, are are you guys us? And are
are are you us? I mean, like that's that. That's
where what I think, like you know, this game kind
of comes down to is that I mean, offensive personnel wise,

(07:31):
it's pretty much the same.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
What I would be.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Interested in is if the Texans could look the way
that Kansasity did the start of the year, because remember
the Kansas City got off really hot offensively, they started
off ohe and two, but the offense was not was
wasn't the problem with defens that was the problem. And
they were getting explosive plays downfield to Xavier Worthy and
you were seeing Markus Brown get involved, you were seeing
Travis Kalas getting involved, and they were running the football efficiently,

(07:53):
and the offensive line was doing it.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
It's doing its due diligence.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
And what was the problem for hust at that standpoint,
no offensive personality in the year. They were lying heavily
on defense, critical stops on fourth down, need to go
ahead and pull away in the fourth quarter, never were
able to get the offense really humming at that right time.
What if that's the game plan in this matchup and
it's flipped from what we saw at the beginning of
the season. Now Houston's offense is dynamic enough to run
the football they're still trusting their defense that may give

(08:17):
up a touchdown, but you get a touchdown, and in return, CJ.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Stroud is lighting up the stat sheet.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
He's throwing deep shots down the middle of the field
to de Nico, and then you get Jalen No involved,
and then you get a little bit more of Dalton
Schultz and everyone is moving the change. And then here
comes Kansas City, where their defense is doing a good job.
It's keeping everything in front of them. They're minimalizing the
success and the explosive plays of Houston, but their offense
can't do a lick. And then they all look at
it and then spack just looking at Andy Reid like, dude,

(08:44):
you gotta give me a break here, Like, I can't
send these guys back out and say after just giving up,
you know, ninety yards in a field goal, a three
and out, Hey, guys do that again. That's not going
to be sustainable. That's how you lose the locker room
and how you lose the identity of your team.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
To worry that if we had here, I mean with
just the offensive futility that the Texans had early on
in this season, and I mean the defense, it was
again I mean, you know, I bring up the comparison
and I know people love my comparisons and crutches two
s's right there for you? Is I mean the Astros
where you know, you got a two to one lead

(09:20):
heading into the eighth inning and then I don't know,
Brian Abrady gives up a two run over, damn you
a pray you? It's like, what do you mean, damn
you a pray you? Like what, okay, you put a
guy on and then he made one mistake pitch? How
about damn you offense? Like how about you guys, like
for leaving you know, eleven runners on base and going
one for eight with runners in scoring position, Like, no,

(09:40):
guess what complimentary? It's part of it. Like you got
to do your job too, And that's what it was
early on this season.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
For Kansas City that I don't know if you can
do your job, Like, yeah, we can say that you
at fifteen and when you have fifteen, you got shot
and have a game, Like can we all agree with that?

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Real fast?

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Seven one, three, two, two, five, seven to ninety? Do
you think Kansas City has no shot in this game?
Because the injuries of the offensive line limited wide receiver
playing Travis Kelce basically the cripkeeper at this point in
his career, being at being wide receiver number one, he
got the number one quarterback in the NFL. When you
have that, you have a shot in every single game.
That's the bottom line in my opinion. But at the
same time, having a good supporting cast makes you feel

(10:16):
more confident about that, feeling that you can have an
overall off day. But hell, you got Roshie Rice bailed
me out of trouble. I got Xavier Worthy being able
to bail me out of trouble. I got a chain
mover in Kelsey that is gonna help me when the
offensive line is doing just enough to keep me up right.
I don't know if you feel that way about Kansas
City right now, because I look at kans City and
I say they're banged up at the most important position.

(10:38):
And the last time that we saw a defensive line
as potent as the Houston Texans facing off against Patrick
Mahomes at this level for a must win game, it
was in the Super Bowl and he was sacked nine
times and Tom Brady went on to have his first title.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
That's the rat trap right there, That's what it was.
The arm of the rat trap just came down because
you know what, everything you just said is rat poison. Okay, Nicholas, no,
that that's exactly what it is.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
How is it poisoned? In's some reality? I mean, I
trust me, I get what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
But at the same time, I'm looking at it from
the perspective of, Okay.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Where are you gonna feel like that.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
You're successful, like outside of Patrick Mahomes, because your defense
is still getting a little bit leaky yellowed over three
hundred passing yards last week to Dak Prescott, who had
two fantastic interceptions last night and cost me a parlaye.
You also have a questionable pass rush against an offensive
line that everyone is agreeing is turning the corner at

(11:34):
the right time.

Speaker 6 (11:35):
C J.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Stroud is I think going to have.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
One of his better games of the season, because on
prime time you have weapons on weapons on weapons on
weapons that may not be elite outside of Nico Collins,
but you can trust them. And you gotta banged up
offensive line going up against the best defensive line in
the NFL, if not the best defense in the nf
NFL bar none. At some point, yeah, you can fall
for the rat poison. But on the other flip side,
you got looking at from the perspective of we're rolling

(12:00):
at the right time, they're fizzling at the worst moment.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Combine that as a concoction.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
For a disaster for Meles, for complete and total ineptitude,
and a lot of pissed off Kansas City fans come
Monday morning asking his Andy Reid lost his fastball. We
gotta go ahead and move off. And Andy Reid, what's
the deal with Pat Mahomes? Why is you suck so much?
Because that's why I think we're gonna hear come Monday morning.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Nameless and faceless opponents. Cool.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
You know, it's a it's a big game because it's
the next game, hat on a hat, all all of that.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Now, it's a big game because of if you can
take down Patrick Mahomes and shut him up, you look
like a hero in the Ams.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Can I I mean?

Speaker 2 (12:35):
And that's one thing that I've been glad to have
not heard out of the Texans locker room, of all
of the things in sports, especially in football, because football
does cliches like nobody's business. Everybody says the same thing. Sure,
can we just across the board. Agree to stop saying
it's a big game because it's the next game. Stop
every time you say that, I hope you lose. Seriously,

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every time you say that. What's wrong with saying, yeah,
this is a big one.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
So you're gonna tell me that if they say next
game is the biggest one against the Arizona Cardinals, you
hope the Texans lose?

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yes, you really do? Yes, I do.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Why because you don't want them going on a nine
game win streak to close up?

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Because intelligence, that's why.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
But that's cliche, and they all know that they're doing
it to keep it a secret. They don't want Here's
the thing they what they don't want to do is
they don't want to get caught by freezing cold takes
later on being on the internet and relentlessly ridiculed.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
I'm not saying give them, give them the billboard, you know,
don't don't go Steve Spurry or.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Doesn't go straight up, Hey they suck, We're better than them.
We should kick their car, we should yeah, yeah, no,
stay stay away from those. But I mean, look, you
don't have to do the whole you know, exactly as
I said, the big game, because it's the next game. No,
we we know how big this game is. See I
know the stakes that are involved.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
I will push back.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
I think that if you are going to actually say
something that you want to make sure he gets out there,
go for the jugular. Do not be afraid of talk smack.
You better back it up afterwards, because if you don't
do that, then you look like a buffoon. But if
you think that you're in a good spot to where
you know that this team is rolling at the right time,
and you feel like that you're gonna win, by all means,
let it fly, batter back it up. You got three

(14:06):
you mean you got three hours, four quarters sixty minutes.
You do that, you look like a champ. Texans they're
winning on Sunday because Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs, they're
absolutely dreadful.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
They suck boom, back it up.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
We'll go behind in me lines again this morning, eight fifteen,
Alex Gold mid Days on ninety six five, the fan
in Kansas City is going to join us, and then
Aaron Wilson for his weekly visit nine o'clock two. Got
that still look forward to, but got a lot of
Texans today. That's gonna be the lion's share of conversation,
got a little bit of college football to throw in there,

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a little bit of sports media too, because two people
that honestly, I really would enjoy no longer being a
thing whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
We'll get into them too as the show goes along.
But coming up.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Next the charge for this Texans defense, especially a little
banged up now, but at least one guy that you
really count on his back. We'll talk about next right
here as we continue. As we're just getting going here
on a Friday edition of the Morning Drive with Dan
and Cole Sports Talks seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (15:11):
Back to the Morning Drive. Here's Dan Matthews and Cole Thompson.
It was a couple of days ago. Like I said,
Anthony brought this up again. Anthony, enjoy your helmet sticker.
We gave you one. See that's that's something we could
do for the audience. The audience helps us out. We
give out helmet stickers. You know, don't doesn't everybody? You know,
once those stickers are available, you get to that Monday

(15:33):
meeting and it's like, you know, triple E helmet sticker
for you.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Hey, all right, let it go, triple E. You know, Cole, you.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
Know, if you give me a helmet sticker, I'm losing
my mind. Why because it's just a job. In my opinion,
you're supposed to come in here and do it as executed.
Probably okay, but I mean, like, look, I don't need
a helmetsticker. They need a helmet sticker.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
The audio.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
You don't need the affirmation No, okay, all right, that's fine.
Some people do and some some people are motivated by
other things.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
I guess I will say.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
I remember growing up the Mark May and lou Hold
segment at the end of satur Knight Football was alway, I'll.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Tell you what, I'm gonna give a helmet. We didn't
give helmet stickers a notre tame.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
But you know what I got, I give one.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
How do you feel about that? Now, with like Matt
Berry and them trying to re emulate that.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I mean, it feels like may and and Holtz had
had a special thing. It was almost like Tom Jackson
and Boomer, you know, slapping the face.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
It's just it's just slap in the face that I'm
just like putting the headgear on bright.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Because I think like they try to have like Booger McFarlane.
Now with ESPN Plus with Chris Berman doing a little
bit of Sunday Sunday NFL whatever they would call it,
not countdown, but whatever it was for like the end
of the game days and it's just like that.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
It's got to be Tom Jackson. Man, those those were
the times.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
But anyway, h this defense motivated by good performances.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
That's exactly what they've been.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
And you know, really you could say that the defense
kind of took a turn for the better when you
had Matt Burke take over the play calling, and I
mean that was something that early on this season that
I was pining for. As I said, Demiko needs to
get to that point of his head coaching at tenure
where you decide, hey, it's time for me to be
more of the CEO and less of dipping into two

(17:13):
different pools. So in one case, right here, we'll get
it started off with Matt Burke talking.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
With the media yesterday and.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Mentioned in the headlines about Tim Settle Junior being down
with the foot injury. That is exactly where things got
started with the Texans DC sad news.

Speaker 8 (17:29):
Tim is playing really good football for us and is
having a really good season, so obviously hurting for him
and what he's going through. But you know, unfortunately this
time of year, and that's part of what we're doing,
and we'll have guys step up to replace him. But
for sure, was playing really good football for us particular
the last few weeks is a really good stretch there
for us.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
Now it's been the best interpass russure for the Texans
the last two years. In my opinion, he is a
top five fine in the Demico Ryans era. In free agency,
they got in a second deal. I will say, though,
the way Tommy Togi has been playing, I feel confident
that you're going to be able to kind of replace
his production.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
See I'm a big TOGII guy. I think that is
a guy that has been outstanding for you and has
been underrated, and it is a guy that I mean,
you see him factor in the run game. You see
him factor even too on plays out in the flats.
I mean, you know number seventy two, you know he's
out there. You're like, whoa, hey man, that's crazy. But

(18:25):
I mean, if there's one bit of good news here,
I mean, you've got Sheldon Rankins, You've got Mario Edwards, Junior,
Togi eys. You just mentioned you completely forget that they
haven't had fully PHOTOCOSSI for have they had him at all?

Speaker 3 (18:38):
I think like two games if that.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
And I mean, and he was somebody that was huge
for you last year too when you didn't have Sheldon
Rankins anymore. So good on Nick Cassario for bringing back
Sheldon Rankins. So the moral of the story is, if
there is a position group on this team that you
can stomach losing someone in, it is the interior of
this defensive line.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
So I will apologize. They at him for four games.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
He went out after the Test Titans game, so he's
bounced this week five for fully Fotokowski. But yeah, no,
I mean, the thing that I like about this Texans
defensive line is that it feels like there have been
moments where you aren't seeing enough players and larger that's
just due to do the capability of what we see
from the death of this team, whether it be a
Mario Edwards or Vodokowski when he was out there, which

(19:22):
I had with Tim Settle, Sheldon Rankins, I feel like
I'm missing a guy, But like they have five dudes
that you all know can go ahead and add pressure
at the middle and they do a good job of complimenting,
which got on the outside, which is why this to
me is a big blow because of how well he
is just fitting in the run defence and the way
that I put him in is it's.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
A stop filler, like you just see a space filler.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Is he can lay down.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
It's like crap can't run and he's a coke machineo basically,
and so like that's where you're gonna lose. I think
a big portion of what made this defensive line so successful.
But from a production standpoint, I'm not worried for the
Houston Texans at all on that, not even a little
bit when it comes to what you get in the interior.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
All right, So maybe Cole Thompson is, you know ingesting
a little bit of rat poison. It's all good and fine,
but you still got Patrick Mahomes on the other side,
and the Texans defensive coordinator not taking the rat poison.

Speaker 8 (20:12):
I'm obviously a supremely talented quarterback, very unique and how
he operates in terms of all the off schedule plaz
he makes and his ability to make explosive throws from
outside the pocket, from anywhere out of the framework. So
obviously a huge challenge for us this week for sure.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
I mean, and he is still one of the best
in the league for a reason. And I mean you
could even argue that that Colts win that they had
Patrick Mahomes was the reason that they were able to
come back and beat Indianapolis.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
So I mean, you know, you get that win, and
I mean.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
You know set yourself up for a chance, even with
the loss last week to the Cowboys, to give yourself
a chance to be able to still make the playoffs.
And I mean he's every reason why.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Okay, And I'm gonna preface this again by saying it's
Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
It is Patrick bleeping Mahomes.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
The dude can do no wrong in the eyes of
the media, but more specifically, he's always on pace when
it comes to the NFL.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Heym and I just want to play. I just want
to play quarterback. Five Patrick, five.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Patrick Here, I'll tell you to your face, I'm not
worried about you right now.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
I understand that you can do a lot of good things,
but with your team this year, the inability to run
the football a consistent basis, the inability to build a
repertoire when it comes to the passing attack deep downfield
with the vertical shots, where you rely too heavily on
fourth quarter comebacks, and this is a defensive line that
is salivating at the mouth to finally go into a

(21:34):
building that they have yet to be able to win
in the Demico Ryan's era. Shut you up, Shut you down,
and make it look like we're the team that you're
supposed to be fearful of going into the month of December.
We're the boogeyman, where what's supposed to come that you
don't want to see in the middle of the night
are the We are the enforcers.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
I'm not worried about Mahomes. I'm not in this game.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
What I'm worried about is the Texans having self inflicted
wounds by throwing into double coverage and they get picked
off and the ball is at midfield. I'm worried about
them not being able to convert on third down. I'm
worried about them with the red zone and the inaptitudes
and they're settling for three points. That's what I'm worried
about in this game. Patch Mahomes is not scaring me
in this matchup.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
He does not all perhaps the fly in the ointment
could be number five, Jalen Peatrie.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
What say you, Matt Burke.

Speaker 8 (22:16):
He's a good player obviously for us, So it's obviously
good to have players back for us and playing so
that corp sort of underneath defender's force, the linebacker level
of Peatree and the safety level, like that's where a
lot of that stuff's happening. I mean, our corners are
our corners and whatnot. But I think having a guy
with his speed and tackling ability, because again there's a
lot of it's going to be tackling in space and

(22:37):
those sort of things, that hopefully is a huge benefit
for us.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
I mean, especially too, with some of the injuries you
have in the secondary. Might we have to see him
go back to safety? I thought about that.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
I did.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
I don't think so my theory will be able to
do a rotation of Jalen Mills and Miles Brian at
the safety spot and then let him play near the
line of scrimmage because I think for the standpoint of
if you want to shut down Travis Kelce, you have
to put the one player that you know can at
least make it a battle and the one person that
can't is five. Five can at least put you in

(23:11):
a position to where he's running at the line of scrimmage.
He's playing in man coverage. He's not letting him get
off his hip. He can make a pass breakup. He
can at least force it to where it has to
be a ball plays beautifully in a spot where only
Kelsey can make a play. I think that Miles Brian
can get burn. I think that if you were to
move tremon'smen to the inside and do something which you
want on the outside, you could be in for a

(23:32):
world of hurt. I think the Jalen Mills cannot play
at the nickel position. I think that the best way
to guarantee that you at least make Travis Kelce have
an opportunity to be basically a mobile in this game
is by saying, we're gonna look straight up at number
five and he's gonna be the one to shut him down.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
World of hurt.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
I was hoping you were gonna go with world of pain,
like you know what Walter Sabcheck told Smokey.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Smoky, You're in a world of pain. You're gonna have
to give me a reference on that one. Did. That's
big Lebowski. It's when he pulls the gun out. Is
the whole world gone?

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Not just I think I'm the only one that gives
it a rout about the rules market zero.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
You just on a Friday morning band, Matthews, that's honest,
you're the one that went crazy.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
That's the second big Lebowski reference this week. We can
never have enough, all right, seven one, three, two and
two five to seven ninety against seven one, three, two
and two five seven ninety. This guy's gonna be a
factor on Sunday. But somebody out there argues he's been
one for a long time. What you hear from them?
As we continue here on the seven ninety morning show.

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Speaker 2 (24:47):
With the offensive line issues, you're gonna have to double
team and take away somebody in this game. And for
the most part, uh, Will Anderson Junior lines up on
the left side, so you would think that probably you
know it's your left is there?

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Right?

Speaker 2 (25:03):
That would probably be you know, the backup right guard,
back up right tackle right there, probably even shade a
tight end over there too, where that looks like that
could free up to Neil Hunter. And we've seen Deniel
Hunter be able to eat this season and be able
to have the the production that he's been able to
put forth. But Tron Armstrong, former NFL offensive lineman, I

(25:23):
guess he's on with Pro Football Focus.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
A podcast, and they does some other stuff on the
side with like PFF, and I think he does something
sometimes on like Sunday Night Football.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Right he's with Trevor what's his name over Yeah, Trevor Sikma.
Very nice guy.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
I think he's married to Alyssa Lang he is, Yeah, okay, so,
but yeah, on with Trevor Sikma with with Pro Football Focus,
and he's saying, while a lot of praise is coming
to Deniel Hunter right now, he says that should have
been coming for a long time.

Speaker 11 (25:53):
I feel like now he's starting to get his notoriety
and starting to get more attention nationwide attention.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
But he was that in Minnesota.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
I've had my personal battles with the guy.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
I'm happily on this side of it.

Speaker 12 (26:07):
Because of guys like Danielle.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Hunter and tied for fourth in the NFL with eleven
sacks this season. He's forced a couple of fumbles and
also somebody too that Demiko Ryans has spotlighted for being
really good in the run game to twenty solo tackles
this season for daniel Hunter. So, I mean the job
that both he and will Anderson Junior have done this
season has been yeomen's work. And I mean it's a

(26:30):
reason why the Texans are in the position that they
are defensively this year, where you've got both of those
guys with over twenty sacks combined.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
He's been in the league for ten years. We're going
on year ten.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Can you tell me how many double digit sax seasons
he's had just off the top of your head, none,
seven oh seven?

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Okay, well, well let's go with this step further.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
Dan Matthews, can you tell me how many years he's
had at least twelve tackles for losses?

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Twelve tackles for a loss, I'll go.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
Eight, now every single year, how about you go twenty?
All right, now, you're right, you're an eighth. Can you
tell me how many years that he's had at least
two forced fumbles. I'll save you the trouble six. The
dude has one hundred and ten sacks in his career
up to this point. He is once again on pace
to finish with at least the single high. I mean,
the career high total that he had back in twenty

(27:21):
twenty three was sixteen point five sacks. You never hear
his name ever, It's never brought up in conversation. It's
Miles Garrett, Daden Hutchinson, and then in Houston you hear
about Will Anderson.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
He's been doing.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
This at an elite level since twenty sixteen.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
He has gotten better.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
And keep in mind, when he was in Minnesota at
one point he went for playing outside linebacker to defensive
end to back to outside linebacker, so the positioning of
where he had a line up to be a blitzer
completely changed in the in the perception of what was
the defensive formation. And he's always been able to have consistency.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
I truly think that when we look.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
Back on the career of Daniel Hunter, he's gonna be
one of those guys that does not get his flowers
until eventually some kid that's like like two years old
right now is watching a highlight tape and saying I
modeled my game after Neil because the way that he
played was the way that we were taught how to play.
He does everything at such a high end, elite level,
but we never bring him up in conversation. We always

(28:16):
talk about Max Crosby and Miles Garrett, and we talked
about Aiden Hutchinson. Well, I hate to be the very
bad news every one of those names I mentioned, besides
the guy that should be the MVP this year. He
has more sax than he has, more tackers for loss than,
he has more pressures then, but he's a silent assassin
that nobody ever wants to talk about.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Well, I think that probably you know two things that
work against the Neil Hunter with some of the other
guys that you just mentioned is number one. I mean,
you know, two of those three guys very high draft picks.
I mean, you know Hunter, I think was a second
rounder when he came into the league.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
So okay, so there you go.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
I mean, somebody that is way above perform expectations come
into the league. And the other is he's not a
very colorful personality. I mean Max Crosby is Max Crosby
with the tattoos, and obviously, you know, with the platform
he's got where he is with the Raiders, you know,
he's already got enough visibility on him there. So I mean,
I think that's that's kind of all part of it

(29:10):
with the Neil Hunter is that he just really for
the most part, is able to fly under the radar.
But I mean, the Texans know how good he is,
and obviously opponents know how good he is.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
That's just the league did though, because of Again, when
you're putting up these incredible numbers year in and year out,
you think at some point people are gonna give you
your credit for one it's due, and right now they're not.
And that's where it gets really frustrating and furiating, because
I look at from the perspective of I'm getting a
dude who constantly is being able to be a security
blanket and an anchor for my defense that allows us

(29:41):
to maybe have not the best game in coverage downfield
because of what he's doing opposite of Will Anderson Junior,
and like Will, again credible creds to I think Will's
ceiling is through the roof. He's going to end up
being one of the best defensive linemen in the NFL
for the next decade. But remind yourself when Will got
into the league. Yeah, Jonathan Grenard. Grenard lefting bent to Minnesota.

(30:02):
You bring in Danil Hunter.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Part of the.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
Reason that Will has been so successful is because teams
have to double You have to prepare for either side
coming at you, and sometimes the better of the picking
the better of the two evils is let's go with
a thirty year old because maybe he's lost a step
on one play.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Well, the twenty three year old.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
Guess what, we got to double team him because if
we end up letting him go free, he's gonna kill
our quarterback. Problem solved, we go double team. Will Anders said,
oh wait, no problem solved. Here comes fifty five off
of the edge, ready to go ahead and pulverized quarterback
and send into oblivion.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Well, I mean, and I think that it's also too.
I mean, it's kind of a pick your poison. I mean,
how are you gonna get attacked here? It's it's you know,
all right, you double up Will Anderson Junior. Here's Daniel Hunter,
or maybe even it's here's Henri to a toe or
here is is is l Share and then you can
even throw Jalen Petrie in there, and then Derek Barnett's
I mean, it's just the list can go on and
on and on of how this Texans defense operates, because again,

(30:53):
I mean, they're not very exotic. They they don't do
a ton of things that you look at and you're
just like, man, you know, I don't even know what
we're gonna be looking at here.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
It's pretty basic.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
But it's just it again gets back to the cliche
used all the time in football, do your job. This
is a this is a group that it's very role defined,
and those guys execute those.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Roles more than that, in my opinion, I think more
so what you look at is these guys exceed their roles.
I would say, go as far as beyond them, go
with They're the reason why this team right now doesn't
the worry about having no Kamari Lasser out there. Specifically
the two guys on the outside. You can have them
just go rampant against Patri Mahomes on Saturday and guess

(31:34):
what we're gonna see Sunday.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
We're going to see.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
In up to two when it comes to the passing attack,
because if you're going to watch as fifty five and
fifty one are closing the gap and forcing Patrick Mahomes's
thought a bounds.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
We'll continue the Texans conversation. Want to get in on
it someone three two one two five seven to ninety
against someone three two one two five seven ninety. When
it comes to the matchup with the Chiefs, who knew
that you would have the advantage in this area of
the field. We'll discuss right here as we close out
six o'clock hour on a Friday, Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Page town Built Morning Drive continues. Now, now here's Dannan Cole.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
Atlantic Coastal Conference. Just an ideal fit through the cow
Bears in there too while we're at it. I love SMU.
You know when I go down to the coast of
Dallas at University Park, Oh, just a fantastic place, dude.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
I mean, come on, you're on the outer banks of
North Carolina. You see tons of mustangs around there.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
I believe you, But we definitely see a bunch of
mustangs on the coast of Dallas, Texas.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
It's almost as.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Fun to say, Ah, we go to the frigid temperatures
of Seattle, Washington for.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
A big ten game every weekend. Baldhead Island, Baldhead Island.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
I remember I've said that about the outer Banks of
North Carolina, Baldhead Island.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
I'm talking.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
I'm making fun of the ECC because they have a
team from Dallas, Texas in the Coastal Conference.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Well, I'm just saying, the Mid Atlantic during the summertime,
it's beautiful. Is it beautiful in Dallas? The Minutelantic? Of course?

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Of course it is right there on the east side,
you know, the the the inlet right there at Arrell.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Cannot wait to go to the coves that are found
in Dallas, Texas at the Atlantic Coastal Conference.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Fantastic modern college sports.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
What can we say but yeah, the Texans will get
the Chiefs on Sunday and the Astros pulling off a
trade Minor league pitcher Nico Zeglin from the Cubs international
bonus pull money. Heading back to someone three two one
two five seven ninety Cole, you know you've given us
a couple of specifics about the season this year. Of
the twelve games that the Texans have played so far

(33:35):
this year, how many of them were they the better
offensive line?

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Eh, that's a good one.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Twelve games, I would say three at the most.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Okay, better offensive line.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
I would probably say they were a better offensive line
than Jacksonville at least the second time around. They were
certainly a better offensive line than Buffalo in the matchup.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Do I think long term with all the injuries.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Maybe not, but still on the one game that you
need to they were And I would say the Baltimore
Ravenings game.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
See, I was gonna go San Francisco in there, I was.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Gonna can you could you could twist my arm and
have you go for That's fine? Okay, So so four
of them? This my god, what am I saying?

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Six games?

Speaker 4 (34:15):
They're batter than Tassit too. They're amazingly better than Miles,
better than Taste.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Maybe just didn't perform it the second time around, but
at least the second half of.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Your team sucks. I don't really pay attention to.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
You, all right, So six times this year, let's go
ahead and that a seventh because they will be the
better offensive line on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, that's that's even.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
I think if you had, say one of the three
Trey Smith or any of the other guys that are
out for Kansas City Taylor Simmons. So, I mean, you know,
the injuries that Andy Reid's team is dealing with right now,
it is nice to at least be able to say,
with this offensive line being solidified now, with what you've

(34:55):
been able to go with at left tackle nursery, I mean,
you know it all away left to right to you know,
Urcery Howard, andrews Ingram and Brown.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
There you go left to right right there.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
For you, I will go step further and say, if
you look at every single position group currently on the
Chiefs and the Texans, I think the Texans overall win
most of those battles.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Quarterback is probably the only one quarterback Kansas City. I'll
go push at the running back spot.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
That's fair.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
What about wide receiver? Wow, receiver, No, you're you're definitely better. Yeah,
just because of Nico, I was gonna say, I mean,
having I would probably do you.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
Include tight end, let's go there, do you include tight
end and just receiving in general.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
I think you've got to differentiate just because of Travis
Kelsey the.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Wide receiver, I'd go Texans tight end.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
I would go Kansas City for sure, barely, but I
would offensive line and go Texans. Right defensive line, I
would go Texans. Of course, linebacker, you have bigger names
out in Kansas City. I think you have better production
out in Houston.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Secondary. I think it's Houston.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
Coaching simply because if he's done it for so long,
and because if he has multile Super Bowl titles, I'll
go Andy Reid.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
And also, let's just throw us out there.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
Some of the dumb malpractice coaching moves we've seen this
year for Namika Ryan's company, I don't think you see
that in Kansas City. So I'm saying right now, there's
three places to where Houston is in the downside of
this matchup.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Here's the problem, though, Dan, and this is why I
can still see a loss.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
Two of the most important positions you need head coach,
quarterback ilean favorite Kansas City No, And.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
That's I think what is the variables? And you know
that definitely scary about this one because I mean with
c J. Stroud again, you know it's kind of like
what we talked about yesterday of wanting to see more
of twenty twenty three.

Speaker 13 (36:37):
C J.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Stroud, I mean, you see that on Sunday. There's there's
no question you're winning this game. But that's just that's
that's really just the kind of the wildcard of all
of this is that you don't know which version of
him you're going to get, and that's kind of been
the frustration that fans have had with them. So no,
as long as they've gotten number fifteen on their side,
they absolutely have a chance. But I mean for everything

(36:59):
else again, you know, it's just kind of looking at
this matchup and you're saying, you, really, you have no
excuse to not get out of here with a win.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
You have no excuse how to get out of here
with the win. You also have no excuse not to
be able to show all of the growth and maturity
that we've watched from week one to week fourteen coming
to display.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
That's, in my opinion, what you got need.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
You have got to show that you are a team
that has left the past from the zero and three
start back in September, because the last thing you want
to do is have like this plateau moment where you're
trending down and then you're slowly moving on up and
then kind of your co strike here and what happened
to the other side of the plateau go right back down.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, you want to avoid that as much as possible.
But I think that it's also you know what, the
Texans playing the football that they are right now, is
there a little concern with you that you know we've
seen this in the past with Texans teams at twenty
eleven is a prime example of you know, injuries where
the reason that you kind of leveled off. But you

(38:01):
don't want to level off at the right at the
wrong time, like you'd love to be able to continue
this momentum to look more like the Green Bay Packers
did that year, or even with all of their injuries,
they just kept winning and winning and winning, and they
had to go on the road and were able to win.
And it's just because they were playing their best football.
That's why they were able to put themselves in position

(38:22):
to be Super Bowl champs.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
I don't need you to.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
Have a Green Bay type year. What I just need
to see is that you are not the reason why
you lose games. Because this is where my fear is
right now. Houston for the rest of their matchups outside
of maybe and I will say this again maybe because
I got to see what they do this weekend against Jacksonville,
Houston is going to be the better team in the
rest of their games. I think they're better than Kansas City.
They're miles better than Arizona than They're not even in

(38:46):
the same data point. When it comes to Las Vegas,
and you're probably better than Los Angeles, even though that.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Game is on the road.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
The reason you'll lose is because of the self inflicting wounds.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
That will be the reason.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
The inability to convert on third down, the inability to
win in the red zone, the inability to uh be
able to shoot downfield when you have an open target,
UH throwing into double converage at least to an interception
in your own territory, being flagged back in your end
zone for a shorter field position when it.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Comes to punts. Little things like that will.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Be the reason why Houston loses on Sunday in any
other game from here on out, not because of they
are the worst team all.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
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Speaker 2 (41:25):
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Speaker 4 (41:29):
Brown water, I definitely would be looking at your suice
system at this point.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Well, it's not like actual, I mean, there's water in it,
but this brown water is very tasty.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Trust me, I had some last night. It's it's disgusting. Dan,
you need to go ahead and get yourself check.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Or with Well, no, I mean this brown water comes
mostly from Kentucky, but you know it's it's served best
over over rocks.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Some people like it. Neat.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
Why would I want it over rocks. It's black, it's dreary.
That's gonna have so much decontamination there, dud, I.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Think you're I think we're on the wrong page here.
So the sun's like coming out tomorrow, Well, I.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Mean it's it's coming out. It's just been behind the cloud. No,
it'll peak from behind the car. I want to make
sure a little or Fanny, thank you. No, the sun
will come out tomorrow. But you get the Texans. Get
you get the Texans of course. Sunday in Kansas City,
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Speaker 3 (43:03):
What's yours? Go to? Game day? Treats go to?

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Okay, okay, hey look you know here's the beauty of
this question today.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Yeah, yeah, there there are no wrong answers. There are
no wrong answer. Brats. Okay, that's actually a good one.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Wings and for me with the brats too, I've gotten
so good at caramelizing the onions, you know, with like
the beer and everything in it. So I mean, you know,
do some caramelized onions, maybe even throw some holopenos in
there too.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Beer cheese. I haven't done the beer cheese yet. I'd
like to do it. I would. I would like to
do it.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
There's ways to do it, and it ends up being
such a crapshoot that it's just bescilla either.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Either would be pre made.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
Again, I don't like doing the pre made stuff either,
if I can make it at home, but I'd much
rather do that than completely royally skirt on us.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
You know, like I mean, another part of all of this,
Like I said, the homegate is sports bars. If a
sports bar has a pretzel with beer cheese, I'm getting it.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
Now, are you a fan of okay, because I'm really
pick about this one. I like Deli mustard that was
with the pretzel. Gotta be pure yellow. I like the
Deli mustard. Ah, I like the spicy mustard with it.
I don't know if this is the flavoring of the
texturing along with the just give me a yellow and
then if I can't get yellow and I can only

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get if I can only get fancy mustard, I go
beer cheese.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yeah, so it's I defer the beer cheese first. But
then you know it's one of those that you know,
I want to be able to take advantage of all
the dips right there.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
So no, I'll just in no double dipping. Of course
you do one.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
And uh it's also to my mom when I was little,
like when we would go to Mexican restaurants, she'd always
have me try to put the salce on my plate.
I didn't want it because it's the the dip to
chip ratio was never good. It was only like halfway
on there and I need more. So, Yeah, that's when
that's one of those as you get older, well then
you get to take a you know, control of the
situation yourself. But it felt intentional yesterday with Clark Lee

(45:03):
throwing out that they tried to get a thirteenth game,
like I heard that, and of course everybody was praising
and then of course saying, hey Texas, take them up
on it. Hey Miami take him up on it. Hey
Notre Dame take him up on it. I was like,
you know what, I appreciate the effort there. I appreciate
you saying that you tried to do that, But it's

(45:25):
also too let's keep in mind of what's still going
on in the college football landscape right now. The deadline
for the college Football Playoff to alert ESPN that they
were going to expand was extended. It was supposed to
be a couple of days ago. Cole this time next year,
we're going to see thirteenth games that are not going

(45:47):
to be the conference championship weekend.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
So you're saying, is we're going to have the round
robin games.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
We will have either the round robin or something that
is like the NCAA Tournament with the first round in.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
That's what this will be. Yeah, it's a playing game
basically to get into there.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
Yeah, I'm gonna push back really hard when it comes
to anybody who wants to criticize Vernabilt football this year.
And maybe it's because of I have a connection with
Diego Pavia. Maybe it's because of I have a respect
factor for the fan base out in First Bank Stadium.
Maybe it's because of I just like rooting for the
underdog Dan. They're not gonna be back here next year.

(46:26):
They may never be back here. They may end up
having the best season that they've ever had in college
football legacy, and it's already the best season that they've
ever had in program history. You get a Heisman Trophy
candidate who, by the way, if you hate on him,
you just hate on him. There's no reason to say
he doesn't belong to the Heisman Traviic conversation. Sorry, you
just don't understand football, and more specifically, you really just

(46:48):
hate on the guy. This is a team that's never
going to get another shot. You know he's gonna get
another shot next year. Texas.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
You know he's gonna get another shot next year. Miami.
You know who's gonna get another shot next year.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
Tennessee, who they try to schedule against BYU, is always
going to be in the running. Because if I think
that they're really well built in the Big Twelve, this
is Vanny's super Bowl. They have to do everything to
prove that they're on in, that they're worthy of being
on it. And so everyone's making fun of Diego Pavia
and Clark Lee and saying, I don't really understand what
you want to skeedule that game. You want to schedule

(47:20):
that game because you know that you have to leave
no stone unturned for the committee to look at you
straight in the face and say hell no, hell no, no.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We can't leave this team out.
They've done everything possible.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
They won ten games, they play at a major conference,
they have multiple ranked wins, they've delivered on every spectrum.
They won their head two head, power forward game, and
we're arguing about a nine to three team that lost
its power forehead game that they belong in the playoff.
So I'm sorry if you want to go after Clark
Lee and Vanderbilt saying that it looks so childish that
try to schedule a thirteen game. Just remind yourself that

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Vanderbilt next season will go right back to being in
that seven, five, six and six range. You know what,
Texas will be playing in Atlanta for an SEC title.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
You know, with all that praise he is heaped on Vanderbilt,
maybe next year they'll let you blow the commodore.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
I would gladly say, welcome aboard, Jared Curtis. I cannot
wait see you in the playoff. The commodore is the
horn that they sound whenever they score a touchdown. Calm down, everybody.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
I'm not saying I don't care if it's a touchdown
or not. Listen.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
They still refuse to give me the two turn gear
that I've been promoting for Diego Pavia, and I'm pissed
off about that one. No, but I'm sorry, Like, you
can't sit here and tell me that with what Miami
has a nil, with what Texas has in nil, with
what Georgia with, what Alabama with, what Michigan with what
Ohio State, with what Oklahoma has, all of them are

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not gonna be right back in this conversation next year.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
You don't know that with Vanderbilt this.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
Could be a one and done, and thirty years from
now we're talking about Diego pavi As. There's a statue
built outside as the best season ever. Congratulations on winning
the Relyaquest Bowl. Not having a shot to play for
the national title.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Yeah, I mean it definitely sucks.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
I mean it is one of those that, you know,
thinking about the expansion conversation this morning, where I mean
twelve I feel like is the right number because again
we're getting to the point where a nine and three
season is that an excellent season.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
Depends on who the team is for Texas is No,
I'm sorry, it isn't. It's not your standard and it
shouldn't be your standard. And don't say to me it's
because we lost to Ohio State. Now the standard is
you're supposed to win every single game because you're Texas.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
So I mean, for the most part, though, it's it's good,
but it's not really good enough. I mean it's getting
to the point here, and you know, I know Nick
in the gallery I wants to talk about this. We'll
bring them in a second where soon enough. I mean,
you know, in the NFL you have where it's down
the divisions, so it's hey, you're eight and nine, and
you win your division, guess what, You're in the playoffs

(49:44):
and you get to host a playoff game. I mean,
is that eventually what we're going to be getting to
with this is that you split this thing up and
you say, basically, it's the SEC and Big ten, and
then whoever aligns with them, then you know you have
your version of the AFC.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
In the NFC DAN, the right number was eight.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
The right number always was eight for the College Football
Playoff if you want to do expansion, but no greed
and corporations and people who have no idea what the
game is about, and all they want to do is
put more money in their pockets. They said that twelve
was a good number. And now here we are arguing
about why Notre Dame doesn't belong in, but Texas at
nine and three does belong in. Why Vanderbilt belongs in.
But Oklahoma despite having a head to head win over Alabama,

(50:25):
doesn't belong in because their offensive pedestrian and anzaca look
pretty on the television screen. So now we've got to
move to sixteen, and then we're gonna be arguing when
a sixteen seed, nine to three roster gets into the
playoff over a ten to two roster from a smaller
conference gets left on out. We're going to move to
twenty four and then we're not going to care about
the regular season, and then every single game that we
talk about being so prominent in a big part of

(50:45):
our lives is just another run of the mill matchup.
And then people are going to look at bowl games
and say this is your participation trophy because you weren't
good enough to play in a twenty fourteen college football playoff,
which I don't understand why anybody is asking for.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Well, I think there's some tweaks that can be made,
and we'll go through through those. Also, Nick and the
Galleria see you right there. We'll get you involved in
the conversation. You want to join them. Someone three two
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Speaker 3 (52:40):
Nick wants to weigh in this morning. Good morning, Nick.

Speaker 9 (52:44):
Yeah, I guys actually get past the one loss teams.
Everybody has a soft story, right, thank you. Everyone's to
cry about it and has a reason. Okay, we need
like define boundaries and rules ultimately, just like the NFL,
right like where you nobody questions wins. In the NFL,
a win is a win, right. If if Cleveland beats Jacksonville,

(53:06):
it's a win. Right, Nobody says, oh, well it's old Jacksonville,
so that's okay, we're gonna count it less.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
Right.

Speaker 9 (53:12):
Well, ultimately you got to have you know, I think
twelve is probably a decent amount because you can't have
all these playoff games. You can't play two games a
week in football. You have back ends or you know,
bookends with scheduling university, the NFL playoffs. Once you get
past this kind of second week of December, it's you know,
you got finals and all that stuff. So ultimately, look

(53:33):
at the NFL set boundaries regular shooting games have to matter.
But you gotta to treat wins as wins, and you
got to have a set number of teams, and you
got to treat all those teams the same. So if
if A and M beats I don't know, some some
D two team that's that's in that top one hundred
and twenty five teams, it needs to be treated the

(53:55):
same as whatever. It's just you gotta have these clear
boundaries and rules, and you got to stick by it,
and you got to tell just because Texas complaints, it
doesn't even count out to it, just because Oklahoma complaints.
You know, if they have three losses or two losses
and somebody else has one loss, get over it.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
When I appreciate the call, Nick, I mean I think
what's at the heart of a lot of that is,
you know, some sort of centralization of the game. And
that's something that continues to be cried for. Like I
would say, that's the next frontier because you know, with name,
image and likeness, Now, what was it ten years ago, Oh,
you got to pay the players. You got to pay
the players, and then people who actually had business since

(54:34):
and actually have some basic understanding of economics going, Okay,
how are you going to do that?

Speaker 3 (54:39):
Oh, I don't know. What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (54:41):
You don't know, like you're saying you're advocating for something
like you just think this money just comes out of nowhere,
and like, how do you think you're going to pay
the players? And then at least I think the intention
was there with name, image and likeness of saying, hey,
let the market determine it. All right, Hey, I'm fine
with that, But then we've seen what that's become. I mean,
I just until you have some sort of again governing

(55:05):
body for college football, because that's what's needed.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
In the n c DOUBLEA.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
For basketball, you've got it, like they're under the auspices
of that. For college football, it's gotten so big with
the conferences that the NCUBAA tries to say, now, guys,
they're like, well, quiet, quiet, we don't need to hear
from you. We've got this, so okay, then take control
of it and centralize this thing.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (55:26):
So the reason there are two things that I agree
with Nick, and there's one thing I complete disagrede Nick.
Number one, the teams that you face off against they
have to matter at some point, they just simply do.
Going up against a D two f B Georgia Valdosta
State or something like that, and Texas beats number four Oklahoma.
Let's just say that, and you both finish with the

(55:48):
same record. I'm sorry, but one of you deserves to
have a better resume because the resume has to count
in some capacity. I do agree with one thing. Everyone after, too,
is a sob story. You lost two games. Whether or
not it was your fault, or whether or not you
schedule tough games, you lost two games. You were in
the hands of the mercy of the committee, no questions asked.

(56:08):
But if you had eight teams, Dan, let me just
read off. Who'd be the eight teams this year? Ohio State, Indiana, Georgia, Texas, Tech, Oregon, Ole,
miss Texas, A and M. And if they were to win,
you could throw in BYU. And if they were to lose,
and Virginia, whin you throw in Virginia. Seven of those
eight teams have one loss. They're worthy of playing for
a college football national championship. Everyone else we're thrown on

(56:29):
in and we're trying to argue. But look at straight
the schedule, look at record, and look at resume, and
look at top twenty five wins.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Look at numbers. Well you know what's gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
Dan, as you like to say all the time, and
I completely disagree with this is the way it has
to happen. But unfortunately, because college football is not run
by the right people, it's run by television markets.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
It's a TV show. Who is the pretty face?

Speaker 4 (56:50):
M m. Golden domers, people hate watch them. Gotta throw
them in despite having a head to head loss against Miami. Hmmm, Alabama,
well most people think of the dynasty is what if
we said, nope, very much alive and well throw you
in despite having a loss of Florida State hmm. Banderbilt
two quality wins, ten and two, record Heisman Trophy, caliber quarterback,

(57:12):
really good story.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Great when it comes to people rooting.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
For them, not pretty enough Miami, you're in over them,
even though you don't have a signature win.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
It's the human It's the human element. I mean, when
we had the BCS, we were complaining about computers. In
this case, it's the human element that's involved in this.
I mean, that's that's what you know, just kind of
when you leave it to somebody, a third party, if
you will, trying to determine how things are going to go.
I mean, to Nick's point, I mean, the NFL's cut
and dry. You've got the standings. Baseball, it's the same deal.

(57:43):
In NBA. It's the same deal. Where the standings are
the standings?

Speaker 3 (57:46):
What do you want? What do you want us to
do about it? At that point, do you win your division?

Speaker 12 (57:50):
No?

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Were you better than the other two teams to get
the wild card?

Speaker 11 (57:53):
No?

Speaker 3 (57:53):
All right, then you're not in.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
Sorry, but at some point you also have to look
at the strength of schedule, strength, the conference record, strength
of Bresman, all those things to compare, like the wild cards.
So let's say, because again, you have one hundred and
sixty two games in baseball, so at some point there
is gonna be a clear separation because you play everybody.
You don't have that in college football. If you tell
me a ten and two Alabama team and let's say

(58:15):
a ten and two Utah team, Guys, the resumes don't
even come close to matching up with each other. The
strength of records don't even become close to matching up
with each other, the strength of schedules don't come close
to match it up with each other. And there's only
one spot left. I'm giving it to Alabama because Alabama
played the tougher schedule, not because of they're the pretty
helmet on the ball. But I'll go back to my
entire point of this, where it said eight should be
the right numbers. Dan, are you arguing that any one

(58:36):
of these seven teams not belonging the playoff? Ohio State, Indiana, Georgia,
Texas Tech, Oregon OLMSS Tech saying that.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Well, no, I mean, it's what Nick said.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
I mean, it's it's teams that have more than one
loss are the ones that are doing it, and especially too,
it's the ones that have well Vanderbilt's case, which I mean,
I get it from Vanderbilt's side, because you're right, it's
the urgency. It's dude, I don't know if we're gonna
get this again. So if it's eighteen oh miss, the
same deal like why they got Tea the way that
they did about Lane Kiffin.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
They don't know if they're going to have this again.

Speaker 4 (59:04):
But with eight teams, you're guaranteed at least seven of
them are sitting with an eleven to one record, and
at eleven to one, you're allowed one mulligan in the
fourteen college Football Playoff era, you were allowed usually one mulligan.
Every one of those teams had one mulligan, and they delivered.
And outside of Texas A and M, every team that lost, oh,
Texas Tech. Outside of those two, the other teams were

(59:26):
one losses. They all lost to a team that's going
to the college football Playoff. That's just the case. So
it's like if you had it at eight and then
you throw in an at large Notre Dame Virginia because
they won their conference, BYU because it won it's conference,
and it's.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Twelve and one.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
There's no one arguing with this debate on where we are.
It just is you're giving it to the teams that
did the due diligence, scheduled their games, won the games
they were supposed to, and completed the assignment. Now we're
rewarding mediocrity and giving out participation trophies.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Well, I mean, and you know, if I can have exclusivity,
I want exclusive. I mean, you know, much more than
inclusivity in this case, because you're exactly rights. I mean,
the more and more we expand this thing, I mean,
we're gonna be open to seven and five, eight and
five teams making this thing?

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
I mean, is that really what we want?

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Do we really want to see I don't know, say
Duke wins tomorrow nights and they you know, and they're
able to get in. Do we really want to see
number twelve Duke taking on number five texasing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
And them and getting smacked it? It's not funny. Duke's
not going.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
And the problem is that Duke probably should go over
James Madison because James Madison. As much as I do
love the story of the G five program, let's be real.
I love the fact that you include a G five team,
I really do. I have no problem with the G
five team being in the playoff, but you also have
to know what your limitation is. You're getting one upset
and you're not winning the next three games.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Here's the other thing is too is while it's at twelve,
and I was talking about this with a buddy of
mine last night, have a G five team be inside
the top fifteen?

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
Why is that so much to ask for?

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
Okay, to be fair, I think that Twulane could move
into the top fifteen before where we get done with this.
If they are to win on tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
Okay, then all good.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
That's fine, okay, because last season, remember the Boise State argument,
like Boise State did belong to have a first round
by well, they were inside the top fifteen, so I
understood that they at least belonged to that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
In that then that standpoint, Ray, We'll get you involved.

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Speaker 15 (01:01:56):
Hey, good morning.

Speaker 5 (01:01:57):
I've been listening to y'alls comments while I was getting
ready for work about the college football playoffs and some
of these schools that are complaining a lot of it
is the flat out area into the schools. Texas, I
mean their name brand. I'm an A and M fan.

(01:02:19):
Even A and M's had their moments in it. You lost,
I mean, you lost two games that I know that
you shouldn't have. Want lost, And as far as I'm concerned,
they lost to Kentucky in Mississippi State. You lost. Come
back next year, I mean, or you go to the
Citrus Bowl or whatever bowl they're going to do. Now,

(01:02:43):
that's not saying I don't want Texas in the playoff
because I want to have to play them again at
Kyle Field. But that's probably not happening, so live with it.
I mean, I don't know what they want. This is
this system we got right now, so it's changed again.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Yeah, I appreciate the call.

Speaker 12 (01:03:03):
Ray.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
I mean, it's the campaigning part of it. I mean,
you know they say politics strange Bedfellows. I would say
that politics and college football the same deal because they're
both the same and in a lot of cases, these
coaches take these jobs and it's basically like taking political office.
I mean, you know, what's the what's the number one
rule in politics? You know you're you're in the office, Well,

(01:03:26):
then you're already campaigning for a chance to stay in
the office. That's what these coaches do, and especially when
it comes to, you know, time to pine for a
chance to make the college football playoff. The coaches are
going to do it. The eighties are going to do it,
the conference commissioners will do it. You're going to have
everybody and even in some cases too where you've got
a network out there and people are like, oh, they

(01:03:47):
pine for one conference in particular.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
It's not SEC bias. There's no such thing as SEC bias.
Get on over it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
I'm stick and tired of having to defend this one.
Here's why we'll say I.

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
Applaud ce Sarkisian doing whatever he can to make sure
that Texas is in the conversation because he brings up
some really good points. Texas is the first team since
twenty nineteen with Joe Burrow on LSU to win three
games against top ten opponents.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
That's just the fact Texas did.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
Schedule a tougher out of conference game compared to other
teams around the SEC, and they lost, and because of
that they're being penalized. Here's where I have a fault
when it comes to sark because Number one, the entire
reason why you're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
This is you spent millions and millions and millions and
millions of.

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
Dollars from the boosters to guarantee that you were in
the College Football Playoff. You're the preseason number one, and
you ended up finishing number fourteen at thirteen in the rankings.
Sorry about Look, if you're gonna call out a team
like Notre Dame, if you're gonna call out a team
like Miami, if you're gonna call out teams when it
comes to their scheduling, and then specifically say, oh, well,
they throw a touchdown late in the fourth quarter to
make it look like it's a better win and that

(01:04:54):
you're only looking at the score. Okay, then I, as
somebody who has watched every single one of TECH games
and every single SEC game this year, can tell you, Sark,
you better back it up when you have games that
were close calls. You were out gained by Kentucky, You
were out first down by Kentucky, You were worse on
third down in Kentucky. You lost time in possession by

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ten minutes against Kentucky and you need.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Over time to get a win.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
You were out gained by Mississippi State, you were out
rouged by Mississippi State. You had fewer first downs Mississippi State.
You were worse on third down in Mississippi State. You
lost time possession of the Mississippi State, and you needed over
time to beat Mississippi State. You were out gained by Vanderbilt.
You lost time in possession against Vanderbilt. You lost the
third down metrics against Vanderbilt. You only won two things,
the game and the turnover margin. So if you're calling

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out teams for how they win football games, you better
also be willing to stand on business when they're calling
you out for these football games. You did not look
good against Kentucky, You did not look good against Mississippi State.
You allowed Vanderbilt despite being up massively, and I understand
you would deal with the injuries in the second half
of the secondary. They still came back and made it
a three point game. That's the bottom line. If you're

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going to go ahead and puff out your chest and
call out other teams, be ready to hear the criticism
from other people when they call you off for your wins.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Well, I mean, I think that again, with the human
element involved in all of this is that's why the
campaigning happens is you're like, well, maybe we can influence
enough people to speak up for us and put us
in there. I mean, that's that's why you have this
system and until you're able to solidify it as much
as possible. Where again, kind of like what Nick brought
up about it being the NFL and you know professional sports,

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where the standings are the ones that are going to
get you in and maybe a tiebreaker here and there
and head to head and all of that kind of stuff,
But for the most part, it's pretty cut and dry.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
You don't have that in college football. And I said
it yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
It's intentionally vague for that reason, because the committee doesn't
exist if you don't.

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
Okay, so are you saying though, And this is where
I have an issue because this is the and the
NFL does this too.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Let's just be real.

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
If you're a division winner, you automatically get to host
a playoff game and you're in the top four.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
That's just the case.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
So if Virginia were to win the ACC they're currently
number eighteen, do they deserve to host a home playoff
game despite not having a rigorous schedule over teams like
let's say BYU wins on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
But Texas Tech, who beat BYU.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
In the regular season and only lost one regular season game,
they should be penalized because of now they're a wildcard team.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Well, I mean I think that, you know, conference champions,
you need to be able to, you know, kind of
count that as a division winner, because I mean, it
is a division winner.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
That's what she did.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
So you know, I do think that the that the
College Football Playoff Committee got it right with no longer
just having hey, the top four conferences, all right, Hey,
first round byes for those guys. So it's like we
would have been saddled with possibly Virginia or Duke as
the number the de facto number four seed.

Speaker 4 (01:07:49):
Remember last season we had the de facto number three
seed Boise State. Remember, And that's why they got rid
of the if you're a conference champion, you get a
first round by They made sure so that way we
did have this conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Yeah, and I mean, at least you know, you're taking
a positive step. And as we know, in college football,
nothing happens overnight. So hopefully they will be able to
get this done when it's all all said and done,
is I said bitter and backing a.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Loser is no way to go through life.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Yes, Michelle Beadle fits into that category, all right. So
Max Kellerman, I guess recently, was on a podcast talking
about Steven A.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
Smith.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Yeah right, so he was talking about how you know,
Smith claimed that he and Kellerman lacked chemistry, but Kellerman
claimed that one reason for their divorce was ESPN's one
hundred million dollar talent couldn't handle debating him on a
regular basis. So of course, you know you ask, why
is Michelle Beadle involved in this? Well, she still has,

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I guess a podcast because remember her Serious XM show
was replaced with Steven A. Smith on Mad Dog Radio,
and she has been at NonStop taking her shots at
steven A.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
Smith.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Which it's like, why don't you look in the mirror,
little bit? How many places have you worked for? Michelle? Like,
how many places have you been let go from? You're
not entertaining, you're not funny, you're not informative, you're not
interesting whatsoever. And yet like you kind of like feel
like you have this entitlement to have these jobs.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Stephen A.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Smith is willing to work Stephen A Smith at least
if nothing else, you might dislike him, you might just
absolutely just despise the guy in every sense of the word.
But he gets a reaction out of you. He does
what the job asks for, and that is be entertaining
in some some form or fashion at least elicits some
sort of reaction. He's good at doing that, I mean,

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by the way, he's.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
Willing to work. But that's besides the point, honestly.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
I mean, how many people do we have in this
business that you look at all the time and you're like, huh,
look wrong again, We're wrong all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
No, it's because if it's all about the ratings, and
guess what, at the end of the day, you got
to be able to get the more people to call
into your show or be involved in what you have
to say.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
Then the guy across from you, that's just it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
I mean, bingo, And that's just like it's just honest
at this point where and it's you know, awful announcing,
which you know, they they've got their people that you know,
oh that's oh, that's that's good sports talk. If you
think it's good sports talk, then it's telling me not
to listen. No, you're telling me that you're announcing it
is awful. Congratulations. Well, I mean, it's just like, there
is no planet that I would ever intentionally listen to

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Michelle Beatle and Cody Decker because I guarantee you that
show sucks.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
I have an affiliation with Cody Decker, I I respect.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
I don't know him personally, the Jones isn't with him,
and personally there's not even a Jones with Michelle Beatle.
It's just, honestly, I don't think that I've ever seen
anybody in this business who is more of a buzzkill
about this business than she is. Okay, we have some
of the funnest jobs on the planet, and yet you
continue to honestly just like be somebody who thinks that

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you're in the elite of the elite in this business,
when honestly you don't have the talent or the chops
to be able to put yourself in that category.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Can I ask you something?

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Did you see this comment by Michelle Beatle on off
announcing yes, I did?

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
Okay? Did you read the article?

Speaker 16 (01:11:08):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
I did, okay, Because the reason I'm asking is last
week Aaron Andrews came under a heap of fire, all
all because of the headline said, talks about working the
holidays and it being frustrated that she's not home for
the holiday season. Okay, Okay, I get what you're saying.
Did you read the article, because at no point was
she crying about it, at no point was she complaining,

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and no point was she coming out of her way
to go ahead and say, it's not fair that, you know,
we had to work these holidays. It's not fair that
I'm going to be around my family. It's not fair
that I have to go, you know, take millions of dollars.
She was saying, just the state of fact. This industry
is not made for everybody because of you at the
work during days and there is no off period in
the journalism war, and everybody went after her, including other journalists.

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So the point is is that most people just want
a headline read well.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
I mean, and I was one of the ones defending
your Andrews because like I saw Trey Wingo kind of
took a shot in there, and I was like, it's like, try,
I think you're looking at it the wrong way.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Like she was pointing out what she was told in
journalism school at Florida, and that's every single person in
this business that goes and speaks at a journalism school,
They've got the same message, and that's you know you
want to you want to have holidays off. This is
not the job for you. You want to be at everything
for your family. This is not the job for you.
Like all of those things that there are, you know,

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parts of this job that people can avoid having to
do all of those things.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
I mean, you know, I'll go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
When I was younger, I had to run aboard on
Thanksgiving Day. It sucked, didn't want to do it, but
I knew that it was my end of the industry,
so I did it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
So like for me, the entire premise goes back to
everyone who wants to cry and mope and complain about
all she said, such a heinous thing. My first question
is to every single person, did you read it? Did
you read it or did you see a headline? I
think you knew every story because I can tell you
what so many people in today's industry, they will read it,
catch headline and they'll say, I know exactly who this
person is. You have no idea what the story is about.

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You have no idea what this person's talking about. But
you'd think that because if you were caught in by
one little word in the headline, and then again, Day
should get paid millions of dollars for selling crap. But
that's what we see every year.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
You mind, if I stay on the warpath this morning
with people in our industry, you do whatever you want.
All right, Let's let's do that, because I seriously have
a question, why is this guy still a thing? We'll
discuss right here as it is the morning drive with
Dan and Cole. Brian, see you right there. We'll get
you involved in the conversation. Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (01:13:31):
Back to Dan and Cole as the morning drive cruise
is off.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
I know, I asked why this guy is still a thing?

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Like, we're gonna have to push that because it's the
customer service business. We say it all the time, and
we throw out the phone number seven one three two
one two five seven ninety. You can sebone three two
one two five seven ninety. You want to get in,
you get in, So we're gonna give you that opportunity.
So we'll keep it going on the phone lines. Brian
Appareland wants to wait in. Brian, good morning, three, good morning.

Speaker 17 (01:14:01):
I rarely hate to call them back to back days.
But this talk of the college football playoffs that one
I know, but I hate to I'm a men of
Saint Thomas. I'm a man of high character, and.

Speaker 16 (01:14:13):
That's h.

Speaker 6 (01:14:17):
Exactly. But no, I was thinking, I don't know if to.

Speaker 17 (01:14:21):
Break some of this up in the in the college
football playoff, maybe somehow the committee then goes to some
type of scoring system.

Speaker 6 (01:14:30):
There's so he was in a record, So you have.

Speaker 17 (01:14:31):
Eight eleven and one teams or twelve eleven and one
teams or whatever it is. Those are those are the
teams that get.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
In and that's over and done with.

Speaker 6 (01:14:39):
But then you know, maybe.

Speaker 17 (01:14:41):
Then somehow there's there's a weighted scale in terms of
every win counts as one point, every loss counts as
what as a negative one point? Do you go on
the road and you beat a higher ranked team maybe
somehow that's a plus three. Do you lose to an
unranked team that's.

Speaker 6 (01:14:58):
A negative three or a negative five or what?

Speaker 12 (01:15:00):
You know?

Speaker 17 (01:15:01):
You you get an FCS team, you get one point
and that's it that you just.

Speaker 6 (01:15:04):
Get credit for the win. Do you go on there?

Speaker 17 (01:15:07):
You know, somebody like Missouri coming into tyle Field that
they're twenty three a m seven.

Speaker 6 (01:15:12):
They get four points because they get a plus.

Speaker 17 (01:15:15):
Three for the for going on the road and winging
against a higher seed, and they get the one point
for the win.

Speaker 6 (01:15:20):
Maybe somehow.

Speaker 17 (01:15:21):
Then then that gives you some type of scoring metric
there and say, well, you know, Notre Dame is a
minus four because they you know, lost to higher rank
or they lost the lower ranked teams at home, whereas
Miami is a plus three because they went on the
road and beat higher rant. Well there's that's how you
settle it. I don't know, but at least then that

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gives you some type of and the teams know what
this is. I'm sure there's sports information directors can keep
track of this, but some type of weighted system for hey,
you you beat a higher ranked seed on the road,
you're getting more points. You beat them at home, you
get not as many points. You know, you lose it
home to a lower rank. Seat that's more points on

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and it's more kind of a scale, but not way
you can look at it and go, they were negative two,
you guys are a plus six.

Speaker 6 (01:16:13):
Well that decides it right there. The teams now going
in that what happens.

Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
Brian, I'm gonna tell you right now. You bring up
a lot of good points. I want to just commend
you on that. I really do. You're forgetting probably the
most important point. You have to have confident people in
the room running the show. And we're never going to
see that. The longest rising markets are actually controlling who's
in the college football playoff, and we have an athletic
director making six seven jokes.

Speaker 17 (01:16:36):
I think you need to have a squad of maybe
eight to ten retired coaches, guys who have actually done it.
You know, I don't know what it would take to
put Nick Stateman on that and like a Barry Alvarez,
and he just retired coaches who have never done it before.

Speaker 6 (01:16:54):
And that's what it is.

Speaker 17 (01:16:55):
You get the eighties out of it, you get maybe
the A D is just a modern and he's in
there to get all these guys together.

Speaker 6 (01:17:02):
And he's the spokesman. But this is done by coaches,
even if it's you know, one double A coaches. You know,
whoever it is.

Speaker 17 (01:17:11):
You know, there was a guy from Grand Valley State
who won I don't know what, like twelve.

Speaker 6 (01:17:16):
National championships or something. He still knows football.

Speaker 17 (01:17:19):
He understands talent and all of that, even if he
didn't coach.

Speaker 9 (01:17:22):
At a higher level.

Speaker 6 (01:17:22):
So that's who's on the committee.

Speaker 17 (01:17:25):
And then you could have an eighty or two maybe
just to add in their two cents and and you
go from there. But you use some type of point
or scoring system to rank it for the type breakers
only where this stuff comes into play and you can
look at it and go, here's why you're not making
it in you you and him. You didn't make it

(01:17:48):
because you lost to you know, unranked Mississippi State at home. Yeah,
you lost ten points for that game. That's why you're
not in.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
You can fight never dies, Brian, So all right, see you, buddy,
he gets he gets the helmet's secret today.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
For that, i'lmet secret. There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
See it's it's catching on. I mean in terms of,
you know, the standings part of it. It's kind of like,
you know, the soccerfication. I guess of it because I
mean we see that in soccer. I did, okay, but
it seems like it fit though. I mean, I really
like rolled it off smoothly.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
Didn't I. It wasn't your it wasn't in your bottom
five so far?

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Okay, good good, I'll take that we're we're improving today.
But I mean it's kind of like, you know, politics,
so I'll get money out of politics.

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
You never get money out of politics.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
I mean for people that I don't even know, like
what type of influence it is other than saying, hey,
I'm on the college football Playoffs selection committee. That's that's
the the the part of it that's you know, it's
kind of like ads, Hey, you know a search firm.
Why do you need a search firm? Why do you
have me here? I mean that's kind of I think
the way that the committee looks at this.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
Seven seven nine.

Speaker 4 (01:18:54):
If you want to join in on the conversation with it,
be college football, the NFL, NBA, whatever we have spoken about,
want to go call him up Mitchell.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
Yeah, well, we'll get Mitchell on the other side. Actually, no, no, no,
I think we got to know what the hell Mitchell?
Jump on in man, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
I'll make it quick.

Speaker 18 (01:19:12):
I am a new listener, so I'm not sure. I'm
not sure who spit the facts a while ago about
uh sark and Texas possibly not deserving going through the
whole stat So was it Dan or Cole?

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
I'm yeah, I'll give credit words to you.

Speaker 9 (01:19:27):
It was Cole that was phenomenal. That was freaking phenomenal.

Speaker 6 (01:19:31):
As a Lawhorn fan, a lifelong lut.

Speaker 9 (01:19:33):
Long too as well.

Speaker 18 (01:19:35):
I mean, I think you hit every now on the head.
I was watching you Tuo at the beginning of the year,
wondering who this team was.

Speaker 6 (01:19:40):
You have this smart offensive.

Speaker 18 (01:19:42):
Mine Steve Sarksian who's struggling to get San Jose State,
and then all of a sudden, Texas deserves to be
in the college football playoffs. I think I would love it,
But it's almost like my mom in Christmas. List your
need versus what you want as a Longhorn fan, I
need a pair of you know, I need a of socks,
but I want to PlayStation like need versus one.

Speaker 4 (01:20:04):
Listen, Mitchell, I'm gonna tell you right now, dude, I
don't think this is a lost season whatsoever for Texas.
And if this is the worst that Texas is going
to be nine and three with ten three wins against
top ten teams, Like, do you know how quickly you
can rebuild this overnight and put yourself in a position
to where you're winning the national championship next year. You're
just not going this year and you know what, that's
on you, Sark, that's on your play design, that's on

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your offensive line, and you're enough to to be able
to start out strong in quality games against lower to
your opponents.

Speaker 12 (01:20:36):
I could agree more.

Speaker 9 (01:20:36):
I mean, I'm super pumped. I thought Texas ended up
having a great year.

Speaker 18 (01:20:39):
They could have easily fumbled away, they could have easily
shrunk into a hole, but instead they continue to fight
and be some of the best teams in the nation.

Speaker 12 (01:20:46):
Do they deserve to be in the playoffs?

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
I mean, I would like for them to be, but.

Speaker 9 (01:20:50):
Again, I'm not sure the word deserves.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
Needs to be in there.

Speaker 12 (01:20:52):
When you barely beat Kentucky, when you barely beat Mississippi State,
when you barely.

Speaker 18 (01:20:57):
Beat Vanderbilt and you lose to avoid.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
A team, Yeah, I appreciate the call, Mitchell. I mean,
you know, it's to your point to to to Mitchell's
point right there. I mean, that's the that's what's sinking
the ship is that, along with Man, you lost to
a three loss team, four win team, now, uh, to
a four win team, and then one of the games
that you know you want to talk about, oh hey

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us against top ten teams. What about the top ten
teams that you didn't beat, the one at the beginning
of the season. That's the one that everybody gets hung.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
Up on, the one that you lost.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
But then how about the one, yes, you you get
you know absolutely boat raced by twenty five.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
By the way, we got to talk about those two.
By the way, real quickly.

Speaker 4 (01:21:35):
Mitchell gets two helmet stickers because if he said that,
I was sounding smart.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
So if you go ahead and.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
Give me, you know, no need to say so you
don't get don't don't, don't hunt it poppy.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
The audience is now at the very top of THESS.

Speaker 4 (01:21:47):
He is at the top of the packing order, and
the standings for helmet stickers feel gross.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
I don't at all.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
Jay, You'll be in here to get us going in
the eight o'clock hour. Also to we'll talk with Alex
Gold mid days at ninety six five the fan in
Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (01:22:02):
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Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
I mentioned it. We're a customer service business.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
In this college football playoff committee conversation continues to get
everybody fired up.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
So let's get you a chance to be able.

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To go ahead and release some of that energy at
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Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
Uh, Jay and Spring wants to do so, Jay.

Speaker 16 (01:23:20):
Good morning's having to tell us, uh just speaking head
go the sentiments on the last college time about ut like, uh,
the guy starts setting up there time about making that
speech about he don't know how anybody could leave you
two hoy were playing the best we have wasn't.

Speaker 11 (01:23:39):
It just three weeks ago, four weeks ago that they
got They tell you whoop by Georgia is not pretty bad?
Who wants to see that exactly? Who wants to see that?
In the in the college football player, we know what's
gonna happen, Like y'all are not a legitimate championship level team.
You're supposed to be some offensive juniors. In the first
couple of weeks, I'm an abby UT said, like the

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last college I've been watching UT since James Brown was
a quarterback back in like the nineties, early nineties whatever.
I used to put aside everything to watch UT until
this year. And it's like, stop lying to youself. These
people are delusional. But it's like I work with kids.
You can sit up here till the kid you did this,
he'll turn around concert let's say no I didn't. And

(01:24:23):
it's like it's getting to that point now with coaches
where they they being delusional, like who are you trying
to fool? Like we know what's gonna happen. You shouldn't
have lost the Florida Like everybody say, you shouldn't have
lost the Florida. End of the stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:24:36):
Okay, Jay before before I let you go, you agree
that the that the Ohio State game, win or lose,
they need to schedule that one to boost at their resume,
even in a close loss. The reason they're being penalized
is because you lost by twenty five points on the
road to a top ten team in Georgia where it
wasn't competitive. And you also lost to Florida where you
were out game by one hundred and thirty yards and

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you lost time possession by thirteen minutes. And at Florida
you proceed to win one more game after you.

Speaker 11 (01:25:03):
And that's exactly that's all you need to talk. Anybody
have a problem Nation car you and you give them
that discussion. End of discussion. You shouldn't have lost to Florida.
It's not about Ohio State, first game whatever. On the road.
Yeah good, but you come back. You're badly beating the
van the built. Now, these are good teams, but I
ain't winning no championship. Kentucky ain't winning no championship. And

(01:25:24):
you're struggling with these people, so stop them playing like say,
lifelong you t fan, But I'm sick of it. I'm
sick of people whining about other things. You lost three times.
End of the discussion.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
Appreciate the call, Jay, Uh, don't be a stranger.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
Give any anytime you're feeling yourself today. I mean, I
get it. Everybody likes Cole. I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
It's not that it's fine. I get it. It's not
that it's that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
What it comes down to is the reality for Texas
fans that I'm trying to sell is I believe that
you're a flawed great team. You're a great team. But
like I hear people all the time talk about that
Vanderbilt game and how it wasn't close. It wasn't close.
You are right, it wasn't close until it was. And
then here's the other part that I'm just gonna continue

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to preach until everybody gets on the same page. I
get told all the time, well Texas lost the starting safety.
Well Texas lost Jolani MacDonald in that game.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
It's Vanderbilt, your Texas.

Speaker 4 (01:26:22):
You have depth on this team that wouldn't touch the
field at Vanderbilt, and you're allowing Diego Pavia to throw
for four hundred yards.

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
You're allowing them to mount to come back.

Speaker 4 (01:26:32):
The only thing that I will say that I will
give credit and grace to Texas fans on this one,
is that two point conversion call was not a two
point conversion. I don't know what the refs are. I
don't know what the line judge saw. I don't know
what the replay saw. He didn't cross the pylon, he
didn't do it. But you are Texas. You have top
five recruiting classes every single year because the name you
can buy whoever you want to come on into your

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program to.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
Elevate your status.

Speaker 4 (01:26:55):
You can get whatever coach to serve as your play caller,
as your davits coordinator.

Speaker 3 (01:26:59):
You have guys, we're currently head.

Speaker 4 (01:27:00):
Coaches that would salimate to be a position coach there.
And you're complaining about having it be a blowout game
when it was a three point swing because you let
Vanderbilt Commets way back in. You did, just like Mississippi
State lets you come your way back in, just like
Kentucky let that let you come your.

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
Way back in.

Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
So all these teams you're using this argument of oh,
it was a blowout game, but how was it a
blowout game when the score says three nothing? And you
want me to look at you and then compare you
to Kentucky and Mississippi State and say, oh, well, you
know it was a close call, but we were able
to win that one.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
Stay on the same subject, all right, It's beyond infuriating.
It just is we have so many idiots in the world.
I know, because I'm very passionate about this.

Speaker 4 (01:27:44):
We have so many idiots in the world that think
that they understand why you belong on in because of
how they judge you. Ladies and gentlemen. Let me just
make this clear. For most of your life, people will
not look at you for your accomplishments. They'll look at
you for your failures. The College Football Player Committee is
no different. They're not looking at you for your accomplishments.
They're judging you based off your failures. That's why you

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were thirteen.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
Well, I mean, and it's also too I mean, you know,
just from everything we've laid out with the Florida and
the Georgia losses, I mean, the Ohio State loss, we
get it like that's and that's the part I think
of all of this as lost on people is it's
we're not talking about don't play Ohio State, but we're
talking about, well, in this case, beat Florida, a team
that won four games this year and fired their head coach.

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I mean beat them. That really shouldn't be that hard.
And you can say, oh, we went on the road,
and you know it was a tough environment. Wasn't tough
enough for Tennessee. Wasn't tough for pretty much every other
team on their schedule this year in the SEC. They
were all able to handle their games either at Florida
or away from Florida.

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
And you didn't. I'll take you to step further.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
You're the Titanic. The Titanic was never supposed to sink.
But guess what happened to the Titanic. It's sunk. You
got a large enough hole in this side of your ship.
You're going down.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
I'm sorry. So let's just go a step further.

Speaker 4 (01:28:57):
Do you want to why Oklahoma a team that Texas
is in the College Football Playoff and Texas nine men
and concluded two losses? Not just that one of their
wins is against the Big Ten team that they beat,
and one of their losses is to a college football
playoff team in all miss you lost to Florida, a
four and eight Florida.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
They beat their Big Ten opponent.

Speaker 4 (01:29:19):
Do you want know why Vanderbilt would get in if
they it wasn't for Oklahoma because they beat Virginia Tech
on the road and they have two losses to one
Alabama team and one to Texas. They would have gotten
the consideration because they won their Power four game and
they didn't lose to a crapshoot roster.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
That was known as the Florida Gators. All right, let's
get into the Texans and Chiefs conversation. We'll go behind
in me lines. Alex Gold mid Days on ninety six
to five, the fan in Kansas City, He's gonna hop
a board with us right here as it is the
Morning Drive with Dan and Cole Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (01:29:54):
The Morning Drive with DNN and Cole on Sports Talk
seven ninety, home of the Strolls, Rockets and Houston's best
sports talk.

Speaker 4 (01:30:04):
We're going behind enemy lines again, aren't we, Alex Gold
from Cody and Gold from of course our friends over
at ninety six point five, the fan of cant say.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
George is right now.

Speaker 4 (01:30:15):
And Alex ought to start off with this, the status
of Kansas City's offensive line. You have Josh Simmons on
the ir NO practicing for Trey Smith and for Juwan Taylor.
What are we expecting to see in the trenches for
Kansas City come Sunday night?

Speaker 9 (01:30:30):
Hey, good morning guys.

Speaker 10 (01:30:30):
Look, that is the number one concern, The number one
story really this week other than just the playoff talking
Kansas City, is how on earth are they going to
figure out to protect Patrick Mahomes with that defensive front?
And you laid it out there, Cole. The injuries are
absolutely a big, big concern. Tray Smith, who is one
of the better guards in football, has been out for
over a week now and hasn't practice. And then you've

(01:30:52):
got to right tackle on Jawan Taylor who's got a
tricep injury. And so it's looking more and more like
they're gonna have three backup offensive line in playing on Sunday,
barring a big surprise today. And if that's the case,
this is going to be I think kind of one
of those as their chief's Office of Coordinator Matt Nage
even said you never want to hear it from your OC,
but he said this could be an ugly game, which

(01:31:14):
I don't know. I tend to think that favors the
Houston Texans.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
Alex Gold joining us from ninety six to five to
fan in Kansas City. Here on the Morning Drive with
Dan and Cole, Alex asked your colleague Carrington Harrison this question.
Neila day Sa, I'll ask you, you know, how your
audience is reacting. Are they looking at this as possibly
the beginning of the end of this chief's dynasty or
are they looking at it as injuries and just the

(01:31:38):
way that this season has gone that this is just
kind of a one off.

Speaker 10 (01:31:42):
So I think people overall are not concerned about, you know,
Patrick Mahomes never getting.

Speaker 9 (01:31:47):
Back to a super Bowl kind of stuff.

Speaker 10 (01:31:48):
But I think there's a real conversation that fans are
having that, Look, this roster has some serious flaws and
this front office has made some mistake. Yeah, like any
front office, you're going to have some wish, are going
to have some bad injury luck, and they definitely have
had that. But that Patrick Mahomes has been able to
mask some of these problems, and it's gotten bad enough.

Speaker 9 (01:32:08):
Now along with just some other issues.

Speaker 10 (01:32:10):
I think even some frustration with this coaching staff that
he's no longer able to mask that, and so now
reality is setting in.

Speaker 9 (01:32:16):
You know, they were a fifteen.

Speaker 10 (01:32:17):
Win team a year ago and everybody watching them kind
of realize like they weren't really a fifteen win quality.

Speaker 9 (01:32:23):
Of roster this year. They're six and six.

Speaker 10 (01:32:27):
They're an average football team, and I think the roster
is better clearly than a six and sixteen.

Speaker 9 (01:32:31):
But that's just the reality. So I think, you know,
if people want to say.

Speaker 10 (01:32:35):
It's the end of the dynasty, everybody has different criteria.

Speaker 9 (01:32:39):
That's fine.

Speaker 10 (01:32:40):
I don't think people are necessarily worried that, you know,
this is going to be a two or three year
run of not making the postseason or anything, but that
there might have to be a little bit of a
step back next year roster wise, to make sure that
through much of the thirties, Patrick Mahomes is positioned to
be able to go back to some Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
See.

Speaker 4 (01:32:57):
I compared it to Tom Brady's first and second run
when he was in New England, where they ended up
going to the playoffs. They were Divisional round opponent, they
wouldn't make it at the conference championship, but then three
years later they were right back in the conversation for
being a Super Bowl contender. Because they utilize the draft,
they utilize free agency. Is that a good comparison to
look out when talking about where where this team is.

(01:33:18):
They're gonna lose some veterans, They're gonna have to like
go some pieces, and they're gonna have to rebuild by
finding a new foundation in place to put around fifteen.

Speaker 10 (01:33:26):
And that's the thing, the foundational piece is that are
where they're aging. You know, Chris Jones is gonna be
a future He's a future Hall of Famer, but age
is finally caught up to him, and you know, got
big money on the books with him. You know, Patrick Mahomes,
you're not going anywhere, but he's probably getting a new
contract this offseason. Travis Kelseeds is likely his last year.
You know, they really don't have a pass rush to

(01:33:46):
speak of, and that is a big problem for them
moving forward. And you know, I don't know if your
audience probably doesn't care as much about this as we
do in Kansas City, but Trent McDuffie, who is one
of the better corners in football, is due for a
contract and there's already conversation and I believe that this is
the case, which is hey, for the long term betterment
of the franchise, there's a real reality where guys they

(01:34:06):
might have to trade him to get multiple draft picks
to be able to build up this roster in the offseason.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
Alex Offensively, how do you think Andy Reid tries to
attack this Texans defense.

Speaker 10 (01:34:18):
Yeah, so I think they need to get Patrick Mahomes
out in space. You know, I think Andy Reid is
not going to go under center all that much. That's
been a huge topic here in Kansas City.

Speaker 9 (01:34:28):
They've had better.

Speaker 10 (01:34:29):
Success running the football, but I think this is going
to be a game where they're going to put it
on the back of Patrick Mahomes and go out a shotgun,
you know, ninety percent of the time. Like, I think
that is going to be the plan, and try to
get the ball out very very quick, you know, quick
bubble screens, quick slants to Rushie Rice and Xavier Worthy.
I think that's going to be the plan. Knowing the

(01:34:49):
pass rushers that are going to get there in a hurry,
you know, they want to take a couple of deep shots.
It's just been something that other than the first I
don't know, month and a half of the season, really
hasn't been there. The story early was Taekwon Thornton, you know,
and how effective he was, and he really has been
a non factor. Guys after the return of Rice and
Worthy from injury, they just have been off the touchdown

(01:35:09):
the field, and in this game, I don't know if
they're gonna have time for that downfield threat to develop.

Speaker 4 (01:35:15):
Alex Gold from Hose, he's the host of Cody and
Gold and that betting show on the fan nine to
sixty five. Giveim a fall on Twitter at Alex Gold. Alex,
you boy, this something you said that this is Travis
Kelsey's last year. There have been some people talking about
the rejuvenation of his ten year and the way that
Jason Kelsey went out where he signed a one year contract.
He wanted to try and make it back to the

(01:35:36):
super Bowl one last time, kind of end his story
on the high note. Do you think that's happen him?
Because the guy right now is foot and nine catches.
He's laying the team in receiving yards, five touchdowns. He's
also gotten better in yards after playing. He looks like
he's still is healthy. So is that still something on
the table for eighty seven to come on back for
one last run.

Speaker 9 (01:35:56):
I think it's on the table.

Speaker 10 (01:35:58):
I just think it's extremely unlikely about how he's performed
this year. This is the best season he's had in
multiple years, and he looks younger. You know, he lost
ten to fifteen pounds in the offseason. He kind of
had a much different offseason in the offseason before you
know where he was obviously traveling the world and going
on the tour with Taylor Swift and all these different things.
And he's been really, really effective and it's you know, physically,

(01:36:20):
this is the shape that he is in. He can
absolutely play again next year. The other tricky park, guys,
is the financial end of this. You know, next year,
do the Chiefs as good as he's been this year?
Do you want to bring him back? And that's where
it gets iffy. I don't think Travis Kelsey is playing
for any other football team in his career other than
Kansas City. So there's a lot of questions that have
to be answered. He was asked about this a few

(01:36:41):
weeks ago and kind of mentioned that, you know, he
wants to make a decision. You know, I think the
first week or so, by the first week or so
of March obviously, so the Chiefs aren't in a bad spot.
But I just think he has so much going for
him off the field and future career and whether it's
acting or otherwise. And obviously he's getting married this summer,
so I would still if I had a bet that
he's not back, that would be my bet for the

(01:37:02):
twenty twenty sixth season.

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
Alex, how does this defense get pressure on CJ. Shroud?

Speaker 10 (01:37:08):
That is the that is the million dollar question, because
they have no pass rush, guys. It has been probably
the biggest issue of the entire season, despite you know,
the penalties and the lack of turnovers forced and everything
that's existing with this football team in big moments. Chris
Jones's I already mentioned has not been the same player.
He's been better as of late, and not the same player.

(01:37:29):
George Karloft has got an extension in the offseason and
he hasn't been effective, and so they've run into a
real problem. If you're Steve Spagnolo, the defensive coordinator, if
you're gonna sit back and hope the front four get
to CJ. Strowd, they're not getting there, guys, and so
Stroud's gonna have all day. Well, then if you're Spagnolo
and you say, all right, we're gonna blitz. So we're
gonna bring Trent McDuffie or Shamari Connor on a corner

(01:37:49):
blitz or a safety blitz.

Speaker 9 (01:37:51):
What teams are.

Speaker 10 (01:37:52):
Doing is they're leaving a running back in and when
you're blitzing, the guy has been successful being able to
chip against these guys, and if you don't blitz, teams
are dumped it off in the flat to the running
back in some cases, and so they're in a really
bad spot.

Speaker 9 (01:38:04):
They have not been.

Speaker 10 (01:38:05):
Able to get a pass rush. So you know what,
what's the plan to get after Strout? I mean they're
gonna mix it up. I mean they will bring corner blitzes,
et cetera. But most teams here have been able to protect.
And you know, I know that Texans don't have the
skill set of you know what Ceedee Lamb and George
Pickens did to Kansas City a week ago on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 9 (01:38:22):
So I don't think people are as fearful of a
Texans offense.

Speaker 10 (01:38:26):
I think actually that's where the Chiefs, you know, could
have some successes limiting their offense. But I don't think
Stroud's getting sacked multiple times in this game, guys, Alex.

Speaker 4 (01:38:34):
There's five games left for Kansas City Los Angeles Tennessee, Denver,
Las Vegas, and Houston. I'm putting you on the spot
right now. If Kansas City loses on Sunday night, are
they out of the playoffs for the first time in
Patrick Mahomes' career.

Speaker 10 (01:38:48):
Yes, it will be. It will be over Intoway twenty five.
They got to win out, guys, and you know, on
an individual basis, you can you can pick them to
win Sunday against the Texans. On an individual basis, they're
going to be favorites in every game. Still, the rest
of the way, the issue is stringing five together and
this team has not been able to get out of
their own way. Cole not been able to get out
of their own way at all. And they've won three

(01:39:09):
games in a row once this year, and that was
a stretch against Detroit, Washington and the Raiders, who are
barely an NFL team these days. So I just don't
see it. I don't believe they're making the postseason in
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
A couple more minutes again, Alex Gold ninety six to
five the Fan in Kansas City, hopping on with us
here on the morning drive with Dan and Cole the
running game, and we talked about the injuries that the
Chiefs have on their offensive line. Is it I mean,
by your expectation is going to be non existent against
this Texans defensive front.

Speaker 10 (01:39:39):
Not existing in two different ways, There's a real chance
it's not only just what the Texan front presents, which
I think we all know is a huge problem for
Kansas City given the injuries as well on this old
line and Tray Smith, the right guard is a big,
big part of their run game, and Mike Caliendo is
the backup has really struggled at times. The other problem, guys,
is Andy Reid's commitment to the run. I mean, this
has been a topic throughout his entire coaching career, but

(01:40:00):
it certainly has been one this year in Kansas City.
You know, the Colts game, they were one of their
best games of the season.

Speaker 9 (01:40:06):
What do they do?

Speaker 10 (01:40:07):
They ran the ball, you know, thirty times with Kareem Hunt,
and they controlled the clock and it was kind of
an old school style, not the sexy style of play
that Andy Reid wants when you have a quarterback like
Patrick Mahomes. But that to me, this year's iteration, knowing
the defensive problems, that's what they need to do more.
So I don't know if I have much faith in
chief Stans have much faith in them committing enough to

(01:40:27):
the run. You know, Isaiah Pichecko is back from injury,
so it's going to be Pachecko when Hunt the two
backs getting the carries. But you know, even if they
come out early in the first fifteen scripted and run
the ball, they're just not willing typically to commit to it.
So I don't think the Texans are going to get
gashed all day.

Speaker 3 (01:40:44):
Long, Alex.

Speaker 4 (01:40:44):
Just from a broad perspective of the AFC, we have
two teams that have young quarterbacks with fourth play schedules
leading the charge. You don't know what's going on with Baltimore.
Pittsburgh's Pittsburgh they're going to fish ten seven and find
a way to lose in the playoffs. Houston's alive, Cincinnati
can kind of house in derail. Is there a front
runner that you look at from the perspective of the
AFC that feels like they should be in the conversation

(01:41:06):
to go to Super Bowl?

Speaker 10 (01:41:09):
The only team that I can come up with because
of as you said, I mean, it seems so wide
open with really no playoff experience and if there is
any playoff experience, and you know there's not many wins
to go around there the New OLYMD Patriots, just because
of the number one seed part of it. I think
ultimately they get the number one seed. We all know
how crucial the buy is. And you're telling me that
Drake make can he win two games two at home

(01:41:31):
in Foxborough against potentially an inexperienced quarterback and maybe a
field that doesn't have Mahomes, probably a field that has
Josh Allen But maybe they're the sixth or seven seed,
and so can you avoid even playing them or do
you play them in your first game you've already beat
them in the division. I actually think the style of
play of New England with the coach like Mike Rabol,
the Patriots would be my bet currently, assuming there's no

(01:41:53):
Mahomes in the playoff field since to actually represent the AFC.
I just don't think the Colts guys are going to
actually end up getting there. I predicted that they're gonna
win one more game the rest of the way. I
think the Cults are missing the playoffs. And then you
go through Denver. I offensively, you know Peyton Manny was
carried by historically great defense to a Super Bowl? What
in twenty fourteen I think it was, or twenty thirteen?

(01:42:14):
Is bo Nick's gonna be the same way. I don't
know if you can do that in this day and age.

Speaker 9 (01:42:18):
Of the NFL. So I'll go with the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
Alex thirty seconds or least.

Speaker 4 (01:42:21):
I gotta ask you, besides your starring role in a
holiday touchdown as loves Story, what is your favorite Hallmark
movie of all time?

Speaker 12 (01:42:30):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (01:42:31):
My goodness, you know what's so funny?

Speaker 10 (01:42:33):
I was not a Hallmark movie guy until then, so
this is embarrassing. I don't know if I can name
you another real Hallmark movie.

Speaker 12 (01:42:42):
Yeah it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:42:43):
I guess that's all it is.

Speaker 9 (01:42:46):
Yeah, I don't know any of these, man. I I
gotta walk on a sidewalk a year ago in ninety
five degree weather and a winter coat, and I had
my two and a half seconds the same.

Speaker 3 (01:42:58):
That's Alex going givem a fall on Twitter.

Speaker 4 (01:43:00):
Alex Groad, hosts of Cody and Gold and that Betting
Show on the Fan ninety six to five.

Speaker 3 (01:43:04):
Alex, You're the best. Appreciate your brother.

Speaker 9 (01:43:07):
Hey, thanks guys, congrats on the show.

Speaker 3 (01:43:09):
Appreciate it man.

Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
Again Alex Gold from as Cole just told you, Cody
and Gold. They're on ninety six to five The Fan
in Kansas City. Yeah, I think I'm like Alex. I
don't think I've ever watched one Hallmark movie. Not one
I have watched. I unfortunately have to say several. In fact,
I would say more than so, I would say dozens
because of at my in.

Speaker 3 (01:43:28):
Laws house they played all the time. I mean, just
for obvious reasons.

Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
A huge fan of Lacy Shawbaer Gretchen Wieners from Mean Girls,
and she is the mainstay pretty much in every single one,
and it is always funny every single year, like when
they start production is like shol put out like an
instant story and she'll be.

Speaker 3 (01:43:42):
Like, surprise, another Hallmark movie.

Speaker 2 (01:43:44):
So, I mean, look, hey, job security in this industry,
In that industry, it's hard to come by. And I
know that some people look at being type cast as
a bad thing. Look, if it's constant paychecks, who can argue.

Speaker 4 (01:43:56):
I wonder if she just finally stabs Caesar's.

Speaker 3 (01:44:00):
I'm sorry, that's the best lot of the entire movie. Oh,
there's there's so many.

Speaker 2 (01:44:03):
That are four for you junior girls in the auditorium immediately.

Speaker 3 (01:44:08):
I'm a gymnasium.

Speaker 4 (01:44:09):
I will say, on a regular basis around the holiday season,
I tweet you go goling Coco. I will it will
be a part of my dialogue on the regular in
the holiday season.

Speaker 2 (01:44:18):
Especially to you know you hear jingle bells rock. You
know you still remember that scene.

Speaker 3 (01:44:23):
No, I just think of him getting kicked in the
face by and by a record pier. No, it was
the it was the boombox. Boombox. Yeah, she's tripped and
knocked the boombox.

Speaker 4 (01:44:30):
Amy Poehlar dancing in the middle of the sidewalk. That's
a v Okay, I'm not gonna lie. That's one of
the SNL's better movies.

Speaker 16 (01:44:36):
Then.

Speaker 2 (01:44:36):
It was a fantastic movie. Tina Fey and everybody did
an awesome job. So there you go, a little bit
of Texans Chiefs talk, a little bit of Hallmark movie talk.
I mean, that's that's what we give you here on
the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole. All right, do
you know the concept of being a mush? Do you
know that concept?

Speaker 3 (01:44:53):
SURETD I do.

Speaker 2 (01:44:55):
Is there a chance that I was a mush for
the Texans already?

Speaker 3 (01:44:59):
But do I apologize. Well, that remains to be seen.

Speaker 2 (01:45:02):
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Speaker 2 (01:46:40):
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Speaker 4 (01:46:44):
No, because there's bragging rights to win in the state
and shut up Dallas and there's something better than that.
But I think that Phoenix is a better team. Therefore,
you probably need Katie out there tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:46:54):
No Devin Booker tonight either, Katie, go ahead and rest
take that on.

Speaker 13 (01:46:59):
You go.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
So yeah, you get the Rockets tonight six o'clock Rockets
launch pad coming away right here, Sports Talks seven ninety
You get Texans back to work this afternoon and getting
ready for the Chiefs Sunday night in Kansas City. Shout
out to Alex Gold from A ninety six to five
to the fan in Casey for joining us. That was
good stuff. I really really enjoyed that. So we'll be
waiting in anticipation for Sunday nights.

Speaker 4 (01:47:21):
And then, of course I wanted him to tell me
what was his favorite Hallmark movie.

Speaker 3 (01:47:24):
I mean, come on, he has a star, but he
gave you an honest answer.

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
I mean, you know he doesn't have one because he
doesn't know any other than you know, hey, can you
put on a winter coat and, you know, walk down
the sidewalk here.

Speaker 4 (01:47:34):
I mean, you could quite literally come up with any
name for a Hallmark movie and probably in ninety percent
of it's true.

Speaker 3 (01:47:39):
Well, I mean it's like, what's your favorite part in
Home Alone? Too? Hey? Can you tell me what the
lobby is down the hallway to the left?

Speaker 4 (01:47:46):
Thank you rich little No, it was no, it's you
doing an impression of doing an impression.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
By the way, too our buddy, and I'll get to
maybe me being a mush here, but our good buddy
that we've had on the show before, Chris Marlar. Did
you ever know about his Yelp review that he wrote
about the Plaza Hotel? He wrote it as Kevin McAllister
or as uh as Kevin McAllister's dad.

Speaker 3 (01:48:11):
Why am I just fighting out about this now? Yes?
And he shares it every single year.

Speaker 2 (01:48:15):
And I can't remember if it was the Plaza or
Yelp blocked him, but he he word for word wrote
out how everything happened was like, you know, just the
utter incompetence to lose my son, and it's just it was.
It was amazing. Marlar's the best. Well, we're gonna have
to get Marlar involved in the show again here. Pretty
soon he's he's a treasure.

Speaker 3 (01:48:34):
Is gonna be awake?

Speaker 2 (01:48:36):
I probably will, I'd say probably about now. Marlar's somewhat responsible.
Now he's getting married. Congratulations to he and Ally, But
you know, he's somewhat responsible now.

Speaker 4 (01:48:46):
I'll get him that, okay, as long as he's awakening,
I don't have to call him six times, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:48:50):
So do you know what the concept of being a
mush is sure that you do. No, I'll let you
go ahead and tell me that mush is a jinx.

Speaker 2 (01:48:57):
But a mush is is somebody like especially gambling. Like
in the gambling world, they tell you don't talk about
your bet until it's finalized, like you know, if if
there's a game, And I did it last night and
it ended up paying off for a buddy of mine.
But I was like, hey, the overs looking good for you,
and sure enough the overhits, so it was fine. But say,

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you know, the scoring stops and the under hits. Then
I mushed him. That's that's that's what it is. So
I remember the other day we had the conversation about
the Texans offense or just the the Texans as a
team being able to skape by without injuries. Yes, I
might have mushed us because then, you know, we get
the news yesterday about Tim Settle Junior.

Speaker 3 (01:49:40):
Then we get the.

Speaker 2 (01:49:41):
News about Kamari Lassiter. I mean, could he be out
for some time? So to Texans fans and to the
Texans themselves and to everybody in the audience, I apologize
for being Eddie the mush.

Speaker 4 (01:49:55):
I'm just gonna blame you for when the Texans lose
on Sunday Night because you were way too confident in them,
even though I've preached all week that Texans is gonna win.

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
They're gonna win by double digits. I and Jakes and
you did well.

Speaker 2 (01:50:04):
And of course, you know, Eddie the Mush is the
character from the Bronx Tail. Eddie Montanaro was the guy's name,
and he and he really was Eddie the Mush like
that that that he played himself in the movie.

Speaker 4 (01:50:17):
Over edited or underrated movie. It's a great movie, fantastic
probably that's fine. I don't think it's one of the
best game mobster movies of all time. I don't think
it's a terrible movie at the time.

Speaker 3 (01:50:27):
No, it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:50:27):
It doesn't get mentioned obviously, and like you know good
Fellow's Casino Godfather, any of those.

Speaker 3 (01:50:32):
But I mean it belongs in that category because it
is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:50:36):
But Chas Palmontieri told a great story about Eddie the
Mush being cast for the movie, because I guess de
Niro was a producer for it. Yeah, and you know,
somebody in the neighborhood was like, hey, you know he
directed it, Okay, so he directed it and they were like,
you know, hey, you need to you need to get
this guy Eddie the Mush in your movie. And he's like, okay, yeah,
you know, we will. So then he asked him, you know, hey,

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you know, can can you meet We want to cast
you for this movie. He goes, ah, you know at
that time it's not gonna work. You know, can we
do it this day at this time? And then de
Niro just goes, hey, not for nothing, but like, why
couldn't you do it at that time? He goes, oh,
the afternoon races at Sarah Toga. I wanted to be there.
De Niro goes, He's perfect. He's in.

Speaker 4 (01:51:18):
Some of the stories that you hear about those nineteen
eighty nineteen eighties, nineteen ninety mob movies are fantastic. They're
they're among the elites of the elites. Okay, but yeah,
you're the mush, You're the chink.

Speaker 13 (01:51:26):
Sure.

Speaker 4 (01:51:26):
The reason why the Texans are gonna lose because if
you were talking the mighty game about where they were
saying staying so healthy, and now two of the best
defensive players are out just making sure that they're all
on the same page.

Speaker 2 (01:51:34):
Guys, all right, but you know what I'm always forgiving
the audience what they want. So the flip side of
it's why I'm not a mush we'll discuss right here
as we close out the eight o'clock the hour it
is the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole Sports Talk
seven to ninety.

Speaker 7 (01:51:50):
They are on Morning Drive. Here's Dan Matthews and Cole Thompson.

Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
So you know I talked about it where I said,
you know, the premise of it is thinking Tuesday show
was that the Texans, you know, the one thing you
can say about him is they've been incredibly fortunate when
it comes to injuries. So then you know, you get
the news yesterday with Tim Settle. Have they said a
definitive about Jalen Reed? Have they said anything?

Speaker 3 (01:52:14):
He's not on the IR? He was, he wasn't a
practice yesterday, but he wasn't on the IR.

Speaker 2 (01:52:18):
Okay, all right, So and then obviously Kamari Laster too.
As I said, why I'm not a mush, you are.

Speaker 3 (01:52:25):
But okay, let's let's listen to the argument. I disagree.

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
I think the audience will probably agree with me too.
You have been able to still stay fortunate with the
heavy hitters on your team. So it's a situation now
where the comparison is the Astros. The Astros lost everyone
he had. Jordan Alvarez, he rolls his ankle at home plate.

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He's done for the rest of the season. Estakperettis comes back,
but the hamstring wasn't one hundred percent and we're still
gonna have to wait and see even with him coming
back with the hamstring. You know Jeremy Pano, you know,
for two different stretches of this season. Jake Myers another guy,
I mean, you know, just guys that you were really
counting on, and that at the end of the season

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when you looked at, hey, why do we miss the postseason? Oh,
probably because a good amount of your core was not
in the lineup on a regular basis. So that's kind
of hard to be able to win ball games when
that happens. I understand CJ. Stroud's been out for three
weeks of the concussion. I understand that Nico Collins missed
the game with the concussion as well. But you've been
able to keep your best pass rushers on the field,
You've been able to keep your linebackers healthy. You've been

(01:53:33):
able to now have an offensive line that, even with
a little bit of injury attrition. Seems like they're pretty
solidified one through five right there. So you've got that
the secondary, yes, a little banged up.

Speaker 12 (01:53:46):
M J.

Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
Stewart going down, talked about Jalen Reed, talked about you know,
Kamari Laster. But you still got Derek Stingley Junior out there,
and he's had some injury issues at times this year too.
So that's where I think that you can hang your
hat on with the Texans of you're still in a
really good spot. We were just talking with Alex Gold
Kansas City. That's not the same thing. There three other
five starting offensive lineman for a line that's not been good. Yeah,

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they're down. You've got injuries in the secondary too, that's
not good. You've even got you know, Ray Shee, Rice
and in also too, Xavier Worthy.

Speaker 3 (01:54:15):
They've been battling through things this season.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
So all in all, you're pretty fortunate to be where
you are as a team. During an NFL season, you're
going to lose guys despite your best effort. That's going
to happen. It's a physical game. But being able to
keep the guys that matter the most, well, that's huge.

Speaker 3 (01:54:33):
Okay, do you want me to give you the good
news or the bad news. First, bad first. I always
want to end on a good note.

Speaker 4 (01:54:38):
Okay, I'm gonna give you the good news first. You
are no respect You're ninety eight percent right. You were
ninety eight percent right. I agree with you on the
fact that quarterback you didn't have Davis Mills. Guess what
you went through just shot you had Davis Mills, you
went three and oo. I respect that you love the
defensive line because I like the defensive I think Tommy
Togia is a great replacement. He's played well in rotational.

(01:55:00):
You haven't seen a lot of success from Mario Edwards,
but he fills a gap. You feel good about the
defensive line. I think that it's okay to lose him Settle.
I'm okay with even losing a Jalen Reed because if
he was already filling in for as a backup for
who was somebody that was filling in for as a
backup and m J. Stewart, You're gonna be okay. I
think in all those spots, the Kamari last one is

(01:55:21):
the one that I'm very nervous about because Kamari this season,
I kid you not look at the numbers and watch
what your eyes tell you. He is one of the
best young cornerbacks in the NFL. And he's not a
cornerback two. He is a cornerback one. That is thrust
it into the CB two role because if you have
an all prom the opposing side, I don't know if

(01:55:42):
you could replace him right now. I don't know if
you feel confident sending out a Tremon Smith or sending
out a Damon Arnette for the practice squader speed, a mere,
whoever it is. I don't think you are confident in
any way thinking that, hey, we're not gonna lose a step,
You're gonna give up a touchdown or two to simply
because force not out there. That's where I will push back. Yes,

(01:56:04):
I agree that they have been very fortunate at living
without the injuries being a decimate reason why they struggled.
But losing a guy at Kamaria Laster I think is
almost irreplaceable at this point of the season.

Speaker 2 (01:56:15):
So what I took from all of that is if
I had just said the good news first, you would
have gone the bad news. Yeah exactly, Okay, all right,
you pull he pulled the Uno reverse card on me.

Speaker 3 (01:56:22):
That's fine, it's all good.

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
I can give you a draw for when you have
a you know, I prefer not and I forget how
to play, and we don't.

Speaker 3 (01:56:29):
We don't have to go through the rules right now.

Speaker 2 (01:56:31):
But I mean, you know, for everything that that you
just said there, I mean, you know, the part that
sticks out the most is I mean Kamari Laster because
I mean he's been somebody that you know, you can
look at and you say you don't have Derek Stinglely there,
then we're talking about Kamari Laster. I mean, that's how
good he's been this season. And he is a guy
that when he came in, he was known for his

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ability to be able to have elite cover skills. Maybe
you know the interception numbers right right, I mean, and
that's and that's part of you know, the defensive system
that he came out of, you know, and coming into this.
I mean that's why the night they drafted him, I
was like, no, no, no, you got a perfect guy
for this. Because you ask guys to fit roles. He

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fits a role. That's what he just did for the
last four years. Because George's defense, just like the Texans,
they're not known for being able to sack you a
ton of times. They're not known for being able to
turn you over a ton of times, but they're known
for being able to physically bludgeon you.

Speaker 3 (01:57:26):
And that's what this defense tries to do.

Speaker 4 (01:57:28):
I mean, they're known for their sack totals, but they
are more so known for the physicality.

Speaker 3 (01:57:31):
I'll give you.

Speaker 2 (01:57:32):
Maybe like in the total they are I mean for
the Texans this year. I mean, that's what I think
is so interesting with will Anderson Junior and Daniel Hunter
and what they've been able to do because usually it's
five and a half here, four and a half there,
Like that's kind of you know, a defense like this
is usually where you get it.

Speaker 4 (01:57:48):
They have that, but they also have the guy that's
got eleven sackson, a guy that's got ten point five sacks,
and they're only going to continue to grow this weekend.
The thing that I look at is, I still know
how dangerous of a player Rashie Rice is on the outside.
I know what speed you're gonna get with the guy in.
Xavier Worthy and Alex Gold brought this up. Taekwon Thornton
at the start of the year was phenomenal. This season alone,
he's averaging twenty four point eight yards per catch. If

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you just say, hey, we're gonna put Taekwon Thornton on
a mere speed, I'm throwing at Taekwon Thornton until otherwise
I just am because I feel like I have to
be tested and losing a guy like Kamaria Laster. Here's
the other part that's really important. We heard a caller
yesterday mentioned that you got a double team Travis kelce
You got to make sure that you're all over Travis kelcey.
I get that, I really do. But let's flip it

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for a second. Now, you have to have double coverage
on whoever is filling in the boy to play at
Kamara Laster.

Speaker 3 (01:58:38):
That's a non negotiable.

Speaker 4 (01:58:39):
Somebody has got to stay over the top because you
do not have a cornerback that you can trust entirely. Now,
it opens up a crease for a guy like Travis
Guss to make plays after the catch.

Speaker 2 (01:58:47):
Well, and that's where I think, you know, Jalen Petrie
is somebody you look to there. I mean, has he
necessarily been the greatest cover guy. No, But I trust
him and coverage much more than I trust Henry Tote or.

Speaker 3 (01:58:58):
Which against Travis Kelce that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:59:00):
I mean, or even you know, as he's alshat here too,
Boddie j.

Speaker 4 (01:59:04):
Speed, if you had to bend the backfield, because I
think that's fine. I don't want him covering Travis Kelsey.
But if you told me, hey, he's playing against for
Shott Smith, all right, I'll call that.

Speaker 3 (01:59:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:59:12):
I mean I trust him much more than I trust
the other two guys. I mean, look in the run game, yes,
those guys throws in the flats, sure, but I mean
we've seen those wheel routes, seam routes, any of those,
and you've see number thirty nine there.

Speaker 3 (01:59:24):
It's like, ooh, this is going to be bad.

Speaker 4 (01:59:27):
Yeah, for the most part, I just look at it
from the standpoint of right now, it feels you're going
to have a very long day if you're Jalen Petrie,
because they're telling you you're on your own, pal like,
we can't have anybody blocking behind you because we got
to prepare for whoever is lining up at the other
cornerback spot to have him be playing over the top.
And you know what, that's the right game plan if
you're Matt Burkandamika Ryants because The last thing that you

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want to do is have a player that's on a
practice squad or a guy that's known for being a
special teamer be the reason why you're given up touchdowns
because you don't have your number two corner.

Speaker 2 (01:59:57):
Well, I mean, and I think also too, there's certain
guys that you can try in the freelance war a
you know role, and I mean Petrie's one of those
guys because it can be very easy of Hey you
see it, take it, going after the quarterback, Hey, you
see it.

Speaker 3 (02:00:10):
Take it, you know, going after the tight end.

Speaker 2 (02:00:13):
You know, just just whatever, you know, you feel like
it is going to you know, benefit him, benefit him
out there.

Speaker 3 (02:00:19):
And I mean, you know that's why I think, you know,
the last.

Speaker 2 (02:00:21):
Few weeks when you were without him with the concussion too,
that's that's where you saw, you know, the long touchdown
run from James Cook, and you know a few other
plays that you know, teams were able to get against
them where you're like, man, having number five would be
really really nice.

Speaker 4 (02:00:36):
They didn't have him last year in the playoff game,
and I thought that that was really detrimental towards slowing
down Travis Kelcey. Is that going to be detrimental on
Saturday Sunday's game.

Speaker 3 (02:00:44):
Maybe, but I think that just the.

Speaker 4 (02:00:46):
Fact that you have a player that you can trust
to play the run, be effective in the short to
intermediate coverage game, and he's going to make tackles, He's
going to be making plays at the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 3 (02:00:56):
I'll take I'll take that.

Speaker 4 (02:00:58):
I'm really nervous about Kamara Lane starting the long term
stassinic injury.

Speaker 2 (02:01:02):
Well, we'll try to get the update on that from
our Sports Talk seven ninety Texans insider, also with KPRC two,
he's Aaron Wilson. He joins us every single week here
on the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole. We'll catch
up with Aaron next right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 3 (02:01:18):
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Speaker 1 (02:01:37):
This is the Morning Drive with Dad and Cole.

Speaker 2 (02:01:45):
Getting in a practice for the Chiefs Sunday night in
Kansas City. Tim Settle Junior is done for the season
with a foot injury. Kamari Laster also could miss Sunday
with a foot injury. And with that much more, let's
bring in our Sports Talk seven ninety Texans insider and
also a KPRC too.

Speaker 3 (02:02:03):
He's Aaron Wilson. He joins us every single Friday.

Speaker 2 (02:02:06):
Let's jump right off right there, especially with the last
name I mentioned, Aaron Kamari last.

Speaker 3 (02:02:10):
Are we seeing him on Sunday or No?

Speaker 13 (02:02:14):
Still trying to play, but there's some doubt that he'll
make it back. Today's the Tivottal day for him. But
he has be able to practice. They're preparing Tremontsmouth to
start at you speak right now, and yeah, I think,
don't really touch and go for Kamara. He's a tough guy,
but it's a painful foot injury. But the good news

(02:02:38):
if there is a silver lining, I'm told authoritatively it
is not season ending unlike Tim Suttle Junior, so he
will plague in this year. It's just a question of
if he can play this week.

Speaker 3 (02:02:49):
Let's talk about Tim sal Junior. He's out for the season.

Speaker 4 (02:02:51):
God, he's undergoing season ending foot surgery later on this month.
Tommy togy I stepping on up is probably the first name.
Who are some other names that could see their minutes?
Are a rep count kind of go on up Settle's departure.

Speaker 13 (02:03:04):
Well, besides Tommy Mario Edwards Junior. Of course, schuldn Rankings
is already playing a ton of snaps, but you may
have to increase the amount he plays, and you do
have the option of playing Nico Autry inside of it.
I don't think that they're going to necessarily have big
role for you know, new defensive ends like Solomon Byrd
who's up on the fifty three, But I don't expect

(02:03:27):
that a ton of snaps for him. Yeah, I would
say Toggy I is the major beneficiary of the increased
snap count. Of course, he's played very well to be
Cords called the mister consistency. He's a good football player.

Speaker 3 (02:03:39):
Again.

Speaker 2 (02:03:40):
Aaron Wilson joins us here on the morning Drive with
Dan and Cole and offensively, Aaron, now, this offensive line,
I mean, did you ever think we'd be in a
world where we're going into a matchup against the Kansas
City Chiefs and we're saying the Sexans have the better
offensive line.

Speaker 13 (02:03:56):
No, I think it's not anything envision, especially like when
they're playing the Seattle Seahawks, right, and it looks pretty bad.
They landed on this best five that I think is solid.
You know, some might say, you know, average, I'd call
it solid, you know to pretty pretty decent at times.

(02:04:19):
And they land on a kind of by happenstance. It
wasn't like, oh, they had this grand plan because obviously
they were playing you know, City Sow and Lincoln Tomlinson
at moments, and you know they you know, tried juice, scrugs,
they did many things. And finally, if you look at
those guys that they have out there, they're the highest
drafted they have, you know, the exception of Tomlinson, there's

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no cut from the team, but you know they have
some guys like Titus Tower, that's the first our drafting
was started at three different positions this year and he's
graded out highly at all of them. You know, some
of the highest graded past protecting line in the NFL.
And Ingram's been like a career renaissance for him. He
was very bad in Minnesota, So I think you got
to go back to Cole Popovich and the coaching from him,

(02:05:02):
the offense line coach and run game coordinator, and he's
worked very hard with these guys. Last year it was
fifty two sacks, for the season for CJ. Stroud this year,
only nineteen sacks.

Speaker 4 (02:05:15):
I even know that was the real number. Dang, that's
actually really impressive, Aaron. There's a lot of people arguing
about this, myself included Dan. Also, is this a must
win game for the Texans or can they afford to
drop this one? But as long as they do business
against the last four opponents, they're going to be in
the playoffs.

Speaker 13 (02:05:32):
You're right, I mean, technically they can, but I think that,
you know, considering that two of those four are Chargers
and Colts, I feel like it's still kind of in
the needed really bad category. If they win it, they're
basically on the driver's see because the Jaguars and the

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Colts played this weekend. There's a really opportunity here to
gain the ground. The Chiefs super vulnerable. Their offensive line
is a mess right now. This is the time. I
think if there was every time to play the Chiefs,
it's right now again.

Speaker 2 (02:06:09):
Aaron Wilson, our Sports Talk seven ninety Texans insider joining us,
says he does every single week here on the Morning
Drive with Dan and.

Speaker 3 (02:06:16):
Cole Nico Collins.

Speaker 2 (02:06:17):
We've seen good games this year, but I don't feel
like Aaron, We've seen the breakout game and Kansas City's
a little banged up in the secondary.

Speaker 3 (02:06:24):
Could this be a breakout game for number twelve?

Speaker 13 (02:06:29):
I think so. You look at you know where they
are in the secondary. They are a little vulnerable. They
nothing's really worked for the Chiefs this year in terms
of the blitzes. I don't know if Peel figures de
Spagnolo out or if he just doesn't have the guys
to get there. It's been kind of a sluggish year
for so called Jones and the George Carloftis hasn't played

(02:06:51):
as well as he did in the past. He does
lead them with five sacks, but it's not like he's
played the way he did in the playoff game against
the Texans. You know when he's up three sacks. They
just haven't been as dominant. They're good, though. I mean
there's some players over there. I think that they can
be thrown on because there's not gonna be that much pressure.
And yeah, the pressure affected C. J. Stroud greatly in

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that game. There was eight sacks, not all on blitzes,
but a lot of it coming on blitz you know,
pressure that Spigolo dialed up. I question whether people have
kind of figured out Kansas City a little bit or
just the personnel, you know, things that they were able
to mask in the past that's caught up with them too.

Speaker 4 (02:07:32):
Aaron Jaden Higgins has really stepped on up to make
the passing attack be a little bit more potent. The
last four games, he's at least had seven targets. Last
game he had five catches for sixty five yards. Just
when you look at his development, what does he provide
for this offensive personnel with Nick Hayley that allows both
Dalton Schultz and Nico Collins to get really vertical after

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the catch.

Speaker 13 (02:07:54):
Well, I would say he's a bigger target, which c. J.
Strout finds, you know, pretty easily. But it's more than that.
He's got you know, a pretty rapid, you know, jab step.
He's got an ability to get into his routes. He's
fairly sudden. I think he's a little twitchy at times.
For a tall guy, he's not just this guy takes
a long time to get up to speed, and he's

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he's pretty athletic. And I would say that for a rookie,
his route running is pretty polished and there are some
of the reasons why. He has good an ability to
spit in space and it's got good hands, catches the
ball pretty cleanly. He's a hands catcher. He's someone that
you know, just is able to present his target catch

(02:08:38):
the football. You know, that was obviously a mistake there
at the end of the first half. Obviously there were
more yards. Again, I think he you know, he's younger player,
maybe not as accustomed to the clock, and they were
all managing the clock pretty badly.

Speaker 12 (02:08:53):
Right then.

Speaker 13 (02:08:53):
That's something that was on Kaylee and the quarterback and Nko.
It wasn't a great end of the first half. But
you know, I think it's for other people to tell him,
you know, hey, this is what we want to do
if you do catch it on that play. But overall,
I mean, that's a really strong game. It's his career
high for receiving yards, like I said, and you know,
five targets, five catches, and that's perfect.

Speaker 2 (02:09:13):
Aaron Travis Kelsey has been a problem for the Texans
in the past, but you know, this year it looks
like maybe the age is catching up to him a
little bit. Production is still there, but it's not what
it's been in previous years. How do you think this
defense attacks him on Sunday.

Speaker 13 (02:09:29):
I think they'll try to get Jalen Petree involved as
much as possible. You know, Miles Bryant actually who will
play safety. They had, you know, a little bit of
success where he had a pass breakup. He did a
lot one fifteen yard or in the playoff game, but
he was okay in the playoff game for the most
part when he was against him. So they had a

(02:09:49):
combination of those guys will do the yeomen's work against him.
I mean, yeah, like you say, he's got five touchdowns,
he's averaged about twelve yards to catch. Fifty nine catches
center nineteen yards, but his longest is forty four. Doesn't
seem to be much of a vertical threat anymore, but
he's a first down machine. And obviously the connection between
him and Mahomes in the clutch. You know, those guys

(02:10:10):
always find each other. And I think he's still one
of the better tight ends the Texan wal face this year.

Speaker 4 (02:10:16):
Everybody wants to have an opinion on this matchup, whether
it be the Texans are right in the driver's seat
of being a playoff front runner, the Texans if they
lose this game, they're ending their chances of being an
actual legit threat in the postseason. In your opinion, even
though it isn't a great Kansas City Chiefs team right now,
what does a win mean for Houston, a place that

(02:10:36):
they haven't been able to get a victory in the
Demica Ryans era.

Speaker 13 (02:10:40):
I think that winning an Arrowhead would be an emotional
touchdown for the franchise, considering some of the real house
of horrors for the Texans, obviously going back to the
collapse where there's a fake punt, the Bill O'Brien game,
you know, really the disastrous Deceimber game last year where

(02:11:00):
Tank Dale blows up his knee and I was all
full of pretty traumatic obviously for the quarterback and for Tank,
and I think I upset a lot of players. So
then they go back and you know, the score was
not a blowout or anything, but you know, they couldn't
protect the quarterback. I mean, he's getting pumbled out there.
Eight sacks with thirteen quarterback hits, if memory service. It's

(02:11:24):
a place where I think it's intimidated the Texans in
the past, whether they admit it or not, they haven't
handled it well. The atmosphere of Arrowhead. Do you have
read out there? It's been ugly and they haven't played
very poised football in the past. So yeah, I think
for the organization as a whole, it's something they need

(02:11:44):
to get over the hump from because, like a lot
of players said this week, these are the kind of
games you have to win to get where you want
to go. That was from Nico Collins and a similar
sentiment from Titus Howard. I agree with that. I think
that it was really critical important that they play some
better football and finally take care of business. If not now,

(02:12:07):
then whenever, when is it gonna happen? If you're can't
win this kind of game?

Speaker 2 (02:12:10):
I mean, Aaron, along with what you're just saying right there,
is that kind of maybe like a signaling of a
changing of the guard that the Texans couldn't, you know,
with a win, say hey, now we do belong in
the conversation with you and Buffalo and Baltimore and others
in the AFC.

Speaker 13 (02:12:25):
Exactly, it's a validation Dan, if they can do this,
And that was something that really kind of unprompted Niko
was getting into. And I consider Niko one of the
guys that kind of take the pulse of the team
with a pretty positive guy. But you know he's also
very honest and he'll acknowledge, you know, when things are
bad or you know, he's not going to over hype

(02:12:47):
him when they're good. But you know he's he's saying that.
I believe his words that this is important to them,
and they seem to have a good mood all week.
I mean, like the guys are are rolling. I think
you know, it's just how do you respond? You know,
where there's adversity and mahomes just got them going and
you know, obviously it's good or cold all those things.

(02:13:08):
You know it's gonna be somewhere between like thirty degrees
feeling like twenty five or something like that for kickoff.
How do you handle it? I think this is a
measuring stick game for the entire organization, and when they've
had circle on the calendar for a very long time, all.

Speaker 3 (02:13:24):
Right, I think the Texans are going to win this game.

Speaker 4 (02:13:26):
I think that they're not just gonna win, They're gonna
win outright in big fashion to where they send a statement.
But Aaron, let me ask you this, get you out
on this question. Are the Texans that they are to lose.

Speaker 3 (02:13:36):
Is it because.

Speaker 4 (02:13:36):
Patrick Mahomes is just the greatest quarterback that we've seen
in the last three decades, or is it the self
inflicting wounds in the coaching errors similar to what we
saw last week in Indianapolis.

Speaker 13 (02:13:46):
I think the latter. I think that Mahomes, as great
as he is, you know, he's not as dominant this season.
And so it's if they cannot get it done in
the red zone, or if they have these untimely or
if TJ. Stroud has one or more turnovers things like that,
I think, you know, or like we talked about, but

(02:14:09):
if there's a matchup issue like what if they just
pick on say like the Tremon Smith or Miles Bryant,
things like that. Absolutely Mahomes of all, but you know,
things that they could have maybe schematically figured a way
out on, figured a path to overcoming you know, any deficits.
So yeah, it's mostly it's about the Texans and the
kind of football they play. I mean, the Chiefs they

(02:14:31):
read all those things. They are true, they're real things
in terms of pedigree and success, but they just lost
to Dallas. They've got I think some real vulnerability there
with the Chiefs. They're not like last year's Chiefs, not
even close. And I don't think they can just pound

(02:14:51):
the football on the Texans. Missing Tray Smith, missing Josh
sim Is, missing Jamal Taylor. You know this is the smaller,
less mobile left athletic offensive line. Then they're gonna roll
out there and it's a bunch of note names. I'm
sure they're well coach by Andy Hackett, all that good stuff,
but this is a game that Texans defensive line should

(02:15:12):
really shine in.

Speaker 2 (02:15:14):
Aaron Wilson sports SOX seven ninety Texans insider, also a
KPRC two. He joins us every single week. He's going
to be in Kansas City this weekend. Two quick hitters
for you, Aaron, before you get out the door, barbecue
burnt ends yes or no?

Speaker 13 (02:15:27):
Yeah? Why not? Okay, that's shift. They're at jack Stack Barbecue.
I've not paid to promote them, but I've been there.
I think I've been there seven or eight times, so
I usually go there when i'm covery game. And I
mean this goes back to even when I was covering
the Ravens. We were going to jack.

Speaker 2 (02:15:44):
Stack, Okay, and then Texas Barbecue or casey oh, Texas Barbecue.
Of course, Okay, I've seen the right answer. We end
on a high note here. Good on you, Aaron, Good
on you, safe travels up to Kansas City, and you
know next Friday will be catching up with you again.

Speaker 13 (02:16:02):
Yes, sir, look forward to you guys. Have a great weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:16:04):
Same to you, Aaron Wilson again our Sports Talk seven
ninety Texans Insider and also with KPRC too. All Right,
speaking of a name that we've talked about all week,
because when you talk about the Kansas City Chiefs, you've
got to talk about the face of the league tax.
Could the Texans be forced to pay it on Sunday.
We'll discuss right here as we continue on the Morning

(02:16:26):
Drive with Danny Cole.

Speaker 3 (02:16:27):
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (02:16:30):
Back to the Morning Drive. Here's Dan Matthews and Cole.

Speaker 2 (02:16:34):
Thompson get to the face of the league tax that
the Texans could possibly have in just a second. But
I know that Dave wants to react to some of
the Texans conversation we were just having with Aaron Wilson.

Speaker 3 (02:16:47):
So Dave on the North side, good morning, how you
doing that's up?

Speaker 13 (02:16:50):
Man?

Speaker 19 (02:16:52):
Hey, Danny Cole, my favorite guy to listen to in
the morning.

Speaker 2 (02:16:56):
We appreciate it, man. It's always always great to hear
that man really appreciate you.

Speaker 19 (02:17:02):
Yes, sir, Yes, sir. Here's my prediction the score of
the Texans game. Texans twenty eight Kansas City twenty three.
And it's something that has something that your guess said
about the Texans going to Kansas Kansas City last year

(02:17:23):
and that their wide receiver was injured, Tank Dell. He
was injured last year and c J. Stroud was so
very bad about that, and they left a bad taste
in c J. Stroud's mount. He didn't stay much that publicly,

(02:17:43):
but they left the bad taste in its nouth last
year when they played Keston City.

Speaker 15 (02:17:48):
So c J.

Speaker 19 (02:17:49):
Strid wants to be able to make amends, to be
able to make a statement to be Kansas City in
order for him to be able to feel about himself
because of his teammate being hurt from last year's game
with Kansas City. I'm not granted, I know Kansas City

(02:18:09):
that they don't have the same players as last year,
but the Texans can take advantage of three players on
their offensive line that they're not going to play, and
the Texans defense is going to pull back their ears
and they're going to rehab it against Patch Mahmes. In
my opinion, what do you guts think?

Speaker 2 (02:18:29):
Yeah, I mean, you know, the defense is the one
that you can count on. Appreciate the call, Dave. I mean,
I think for CJ. It's more of I means, it's
channeling Rick Flair right here, to be the man. You
gotta beat the man. I mean, it's games like this,
it's you know CJ. Stroud, he he had all the
hype after his rookie year and then last year kind
of dropped off a little bit. Some of the national
television games. You lost Sunday night to the Lions, you lost, Yeah,

(02:18:54):
I mean Thursday night in the meadow Lands.

Speaker 3 (02:18:56):
Against the Jets you lost. The reason they lost.

Speaker 2 (02:19:00):
But I mean, but still the point is is, you know,
how do you get people on your side? I mean,
remember too, And I'm not comparing him to Peyton Manning.
I'm not comparing him. I'm just saying, right, this is
not a comparison that CJ. Stroud is on the level
of Peyton Manning, thank you, But remember what that was
being thrown at Peyton Manning at the beginning of his career.

(02:19:20):
He can't beat Brady, He's overrated, he can't win the
big one. I mean, it follows him from college even
into the pros. And then finally in the AFC Championship game,
he beat Tom Brady and he beat the Patriots, so
then it was all right, you can't throw that at him,
all right, Well then you know, let's see how he
does in the Super Bowl Bingo. Same deal there. So
I mean, you've got to be able to get past

(02:19:41):
certain points for people to believe in you, and I
mean Texans fans, we believe in c J. Stroud, but
the national audience probably a little bit more skeptical. And again,
you know more about your team than the national audience
knows about your team.

Speaker 4 (02:19:56):
What I will fight back is if the Texans were
going to lose this but CJ. Shroud plays lights out
and he is a reason why they're in this game,
he gains a lot of traction in favor of the
public eye. If the Texans are to win this game
and CJ. Stroud is a reason why it's close. On
the negative side of things, there will be two constances here.
The first will be you and I and people in

(02:20:16):
the city of Houston will go ahead and say c J.
Stroud has got to play better because we expect more
from him. We expect him to be a franchise difference maker.
We expect them to be the reason why we're consistently
winning and winning in the AFC playoffs, that we're actually
able to make a run for the first time.

Speaker 3 (02:20:31):
Of the a SC Championship.

Speaker 4 (02:20:32):
But to the public eye and people who live outside,
all though, say is that CJ.

Speaker 3 (02:20:36):
Stroud finally beat Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 4 (02:20:38):
And you know what, either way, it does feel right
because if Stroud knows what his overall limitations are and
what is supposed to be the standard. But in the
public now it's more good press for the Texans. And
by the way, everyone says all press is good press,
Not when you're the quarterback of a team that needs
to be able to turn the corner at the right
time going into a playoff hunt.

Speaker 2 (02:20:56):
All right, So the face of the league text that
the Texans could possibly face this weekend. Michael Shapiro does
great work over at cron dot com, posting this up
on their site with the headline Texan fear quote face
of the League tax against Patrick Mahomes Shapiro catching up
with Daniel Hunter, talking about with any quarterback that's well known,

(02:21:17):
you gotta watch how you take them down. That's a
big emphasis on dudes who are the face of the
league and how you hit them. And Daniel is one
of those guys that he's heady about this on the field.
Go back to that Thursday night against the Buffalo Bills,
and do you remember one of the sacks that he
had on Josh Allen, He almost pulled him backwards and

(02:21:38):
had Alan land on him. So it was one of
those where I saw the way he did it because
he could have very easily just gone right through him.
And of course you know, hey put his full body
weight on there, that's fifteen yards you know, personal foul.
But in that point he leveraged himself where he said,
I'll just pull him backwards and then it's that's not
going to come into play.

Speaker 4 (02:21:57):
So basically what you're trying to say is because his
patch homes, then they give a foul if he even
breathes wrongly or somebody definitely just looks at him in
a different direction. That the Texans have to be careful
when it comes to tackling. Remember, I mean dude, we
has reason was an absolute joke in the officiating crew
should never be a lot of call game again.

Speaker 2 (02:22:13):
And we we had that in the divisional round. I
mean where it's you know, hey, don't don't complain about
officiating all all that kind of stuff. It was almost
to the point where they're like, what do you want
us to say? Like seriously, And obviously the NFL listened
to it because you had officials who were on that
crew who were kicked out of the league. Yeah, that
was like it was like you no longer have a
place here. So obviously it was somewhat warranted. But I

(02:22:34):
gotta tell you, I mean it's one of those that
you know, Golden Gooses, the made guys, you know, don't
don't touch the mad guys. Chiefs are a made team now,
So you better believe that if there is a possibility
of some close calls on Sunday night, don't put yourself
in those situations because I gotta tell you, I don't
think it's going to go your direction.

Speaker 4 (02:22:55):
So do I need to grab if I'm Will Anderson,
a glass of milking cookies and a pillow. That way,
when I laid out on Patrick Mahomes, he at least
gets to go to sleep well.

Speaker 2 (02:23:02):
And that's the thing that Hunter continues on, the biggest
thing is watching how you go about tackling Mahomes any
of those top guys. I think it's the biggest thing
is tackling the quarterback properly. So I mean, at least
it sounds like this is being coached. It's being talked
about in the locker room and the meeting rooms already
of you know, hey, you better not expect the unexpected

(02:23:23):
or you better not be surprised by the unexpected.

Speaker 4 (02:23:26):
Oh you mean how last season it was a third
down College should have been an easy play to where
it was a fumber recovery. Oh wait, no, it's Patrick Mahomes. Sorry,
well Anderson, you don't get that.

Speaker 2 (02:23:34):
Well, I mean, that's that's the thing, you know, Like
I said, expect the unexpected. There was a wise man
at the double deuce in the middle of Missouri that
once said, never underestimate your opponent, expect the unexpected.

Speaker 3 (02:23:46):
Still cannot live in a world knowing that.

Speaker 4 (02:23:48):
Do you had Henry toatoa collide with Will Anderson, not
even touch the quarterback, and you tacked on fifteen I
cannot understand how in cop it moronic, nit witted, brain dead,
flabbergasted idiotic co officiating can occur when the officials can

(02:24:10):
see replay and there's no one in sight near the quarterback,
but still decide to hold on out. Now, you just
put me in the bad mood because I think that
the Texans are going to lose this game because officiating.

Speaker 3 (02:24:20):
Well, I will believe officiating on Monday.

Speaker 2 (02:24:22):
And this is again, I mean where it's a lot
of you know, handle what you can handle, and if
the Texans can do that, I mean at least match
up one through fifty three, there's no reason to believe
that you can't come out of here with a win.
Larry and Stafford see you right there working in you
want to join them? seOne three two on two five
seven ninety against sebone three two on two, five seven
ninety also before the close of business today. I mentioned

(02:24:44):
this earlier and we just didn't have a chance to
get to it. But damn right, we're gonna get to it.
Why is this guy still a thing? We'll discuss that
coming up here on the Morning Drive with Dan and
Coles Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (02:24:56):
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Speaker 3 (02:25:01):
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Speaker 17 (02:25:03):
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Speaker 14 (02:25:06):
Home with your Astros Rockets hat today and I almost
wore a Texans hat, and then I knew that Matt
would probably make a comment about it, so I punted
on the Texans hat.

Speaker 3 (02:25:18):
It's fine.

Speaker 2 (02:25:19):
Well, I mean, it's just also too It's like, do
I necessarily want to deal with the Schneid comments or
just kind of go about my day. So I'm sure
he'll probably approve the duncture not hat. So there you go.
I get approval and keep it going. The Texans and
Chiefs Sunday night in at Kansas City, and that's what
Larry and Stafford.

Speaker 3 (02:25:37):
Let's talk about. Larry, good morning, What I'm dead?

Speaker 12 (02:25:40):
What's going on? Dan Colon? It's Friday, fellas, and so
y'all know I had to get in and get this
weekend fired up. Man. Look here, fellas. Sometime in life
you gotta go through some challenges to make sure that
you reach the mountaintop. See for me back in the
day in eighteen five eight. That was the Madison Marlins
under coach Ben and they had Sen Gay and them

(02:26:02):
boys went forty and zero, and they just terrorized us
in eighteen five eight, but eventually they ass moved on
and then we had to be able to overcome them.
And then we began to run eighteen five eight with
the West bevery rebels. So then after that, you know,
I move on to the greater passes or whatever. And
then old Buddy Mine's up there at Saint Mary's in

(02:26:22):
San Antonio, him and his boys was terrorizing us on
the yard bulldog, if you know what I'm saying. And
so we had to finally get through them boys to
let them know that all we the real bulldogs in
this game. And I say all of that to say
this about C. J. Strouding in Houston, Texas and the
Kansas City Chiefs. Everybody in this city. Remember when the

(02:26:43):
Texas were up twenty four nothing in Kansas City and
we was about to destroy them damn Chiefs and send
their ass passing, and Bill O'Brian decided to do some
of the dumbest stuff we have seen in football. And
when Bill O'Brien did that, it took me back to
all those horrible menies I had with the Texans weld
letterman's jackets and then them losing games that they shouldn't

(02:27:06):
have lost when they lost to Kansas City thirty and
nothing or something on the kickoffs. All these things are
mountaintops that you have to climb to get to the
ascension of getting to the super Bowl. This is the
Texas chance for redempsing on this Sunday night football game, Bulldog,
and this is an opportunity for Will Anderson, C. J.

(02:27:27):
Sprout and everybody else to make their mark about why
we should be taken serious. I think the Texas are
gonna go in there and kick the chiefs ass all
over Kansas City. And I can also tell you that
I can promise you that Texas barbecue is better than
Kansas City barbecue. So if I don't know nothing else,
I know that this is gonna be a fun weekend

(02:27:49):
for your boy, because here's what it's all about. Sometimes
you got to beat the man to become the man.
And I think them boys, ready, fellas, it's gonna be
a fun time. Already got me another bottle that yeck.
But if we can't in a who.

Speaker 2 (02:28:04):
There you go, Larry and Stafford appreciated man, and also
to throw a stick or two in there this weekend.

Speaker 3 (02:28:11):
It's it's illy brown water.

Speaker 2 (02:28:12):
And uh in firing up stick season, I would say
this time of the year, So smoke him if you
got him this weekend, and I know that you know
Texans ultimate warrior, you he'll probably be firing him up,
especially you know, Sunday nights, so shout out to him too.

Speaker 3 (02:28:27):
So, like I said, smoke him if you got him.

Speaker 4 (02:28:29):
If you're drinking brown water, man, you have a really
terrible irrigation.

Speaker 2 (02:28:34):
Again, you're taking it too literal here, all right, It's
it's it's the good stuff. And if you get the
really good stuff. I tell people all the time, it
tastes like adult cola. It's so good.

Speaker 3 (02:28:43):
If you're having brown water, it's disgusting.

Speaker 2 (02:28:48):
You're killing your inside in this. In this case, it's
the good bacteria. It's it's it's it's the good stuff
that you want to enjoy and it's probably not necessarily
good for you health wise, but uh, let's just say
that you enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (02:28:58):
How about I just got a bottle.

Speaker 2 (02:29:00):
Look, look, Jim Jim Gaffigan said it best on The
Rich Eisen Show that men need this, and he's right.

Speaker 3 (02:29:05):
We do.

Speaker 2 (02:29:06):
We do need what bourbon, Yes, it's it's it's just
it's amazing. Oh I do, I don't. It's the rug
that ties the room together. There's another big Lebowski. So
if this were the Matt Thomas Show, I'd be getting
the Jalen green ding right there.

Speaker 3 (02:29:21):
But no, I mean, you know, before we get to Roger.
I mean, that's that's you know.

Speaker 2 (02:29:25):
Really, what we've been talking about here as the show
goes along is that this is the the prove it
game that you have in the regular season, and you
don't get this very often. More often than not this
comes in the playoffs. But this is probably for the
first time in a really long time, you come out
of this game with a win. That is a Texans fan,
you can believe. We can dream about AFC Championships, We

(02:29:48):
can dream about being one of the final two teams
at the end of the season for a chance to
win the Lombardy. We can actually believe that that can happen.

Speaker 3 (02:29:55):
Nope, not doing it.

Speaker 4 (02:29:57):
I understand why you're saying it, but I'm not doing
it because I have to see one more thing.

Speaker 3 (02:30:01):
What did I talk about yesterday?

Speaker 4 (02:30:03):
You're supposed to get a win that you're not supposed
to win you're supposed to get a loss that you're
not supposed to lose. You still have two of those
games ahead. Las Vegas Arizona win one, my bad win both.
Then I can start actually buying a little bit more
into it, cause again, this should be the win that
the Texans are not supposed to have against a team

(02:30:25):
that they've struggled against every time that they've gone to
their building and haven't been able to close the door.

Speaker 3 (02:30:31):
You get that win, Congratulations.

Speaker 4 (02:30:32):
Here comes Arizona off of another demoralizing loss.

Speaker 3 (02:30:36):
Close call. They come into your building and they kick
the crap out of you.

Speaker 4 (02:30:39):
Hey, welcome back to twenty twenty three and twenty twenty
four Houston, Texas.

Speaker 2 (02:30:42):
Hey, look, you know Andre the Giant had it over
hul Cogan and then finally hul Cogan he bodies slammed
them and then dropped the leg on him, and you know,
hole co Mania was able to be born.

Speaker 3 (02:30:51):
It was born.

Speaker 4 (02:30:52):
But then did Hulk have an issue later on with
another opponent? Of course, always against a weaker opponent. No,
he didn't had it against a weaker opponent. He only
went up against the tyrants at that point, which is
what you would say if it was Buffalo, if it
was Baltimore. Teams that have been here before and they
act like it. That's Houston's problem right now. You don't
lose the games to the incompetent organizations that are already

(02:31:15):
preparing for the draft next season.

Speaker 3 (02:31:17):
That's where we are.

Speaker 4 (02:31:18):
And so, like Larry and Stafford, I appreciate it, but
that's all great in data that you believe the teams
go win this weekend.

Speaker 3 (02:31:22):
I do too.

Speaker 4 (02:31:24):
I also have to see them do the job next
week against Arizona and two weeks from now against Las
Vegas to truly believe.

Speaker 3 (02:31:30):
Hey in AFC title hopes, it's in reach to be
that way, man, because I mean, I am horrible.

Speaker 2 (02:31:38):
We're having a great end of the week here, Like
you know, it's.

Speaker 3 (02:31:42):
I like being mean, it's it's the reality of the situation.

Speaker 2 (02:31:45):
It's a nice moments and then you know, you just
you just bring us. On the other hand, you're tethering us.
You know, you're smothering us. I have on the other hand,
what you're doing.

Speaker 3 (02:31:54):
Wait, am I am?

Speaker 4 (02:31:55):
I smothering you to where it ends up putting the
gun in the face and then bang bang cold day.

Speaker 3 (02:32:00):
Not quite that, but I think so.

Speaker 4 (02:32:02):
Being honest here, I think the Texans are winning this weekend.
I have been There's gotta be trust in the relationship.
I believe that the Texans are winning this weekend. There
is trust that I think the Houston Texas can win
this game. I still need to see them do it
against the incompetent organizations.

Speaker 3 (02:32:14):
Save Roger agrees with you, Roger, good morning.

Speaker 15 (02:32:18):
Oh yeah, I agree to Harley. This is almost like
an eighties wrestling wrestling promotion.

Speaker 16 (02:32:24):
Man.

Speaker 15 (02:32:25):
You might you might have three titles guys, you know,
but this defense isn't necessary chub laver. But yeah, I
just uh, I just feel like, yeah, we have to
uh mister mister Larry and staff. It was correct to
be the man. You gotta beat the man. And this
is your opportunity, this is the best opportunity you'll ever

(02:32:47):
have to stick a dagger in him. And and and
you know, say they're done at least for this season.

Speaker 3 (02:32:51):
Now, ROGERO Sory, go ahead, fish your talk.

Speaker 4 (02:32:53):
Man.

Speaker 15 (02:32:54):
No, No, that that's that's it.

Speaker 12 (02:32:56):
Man.

Speaker 15 (02:32:57):
You have to smash them. You know, they're they're not
that great. Yeah, we're down a couple of guys, but
you know, these guys you know they're mis struggling all year.
It's time to put them out of the misery, and
why not on National TV Sunday Night.

Speaker 4 (02:33:09):
But at the same time, as in years past with
this franchise, they win again that they're not supposed to
against a team that is qualified to be considered a
favor to go to the Super Bowl every year, but
every season they drop a game to an incompetent organization
that's fighting for the number one overall pick. So do
you still have your reserves when Las Vegas that's sitting
at two and ten, already been eliminated from the playoffs,

(02:33:31):
has no hope at quarterback, has no hope in the
offensive line, no hope. Defensively, probably another one and done. Coach,
they're able to do what Tennessee did to you, or
they able to do what Carolina did to you. Is
that the game where you still have to wonder about
because I still do.

Speaker 15 (02:33:46):
Every team asked a wonder about that. It's called losing
focus and you have to you have to you have
to keep that rave to sharp focus. I think this
defense is definitely down for that past. Now the offense
is looking a little better, but you can't answer those
questions until it happened, and then we'll have a very
very very good handle on what this team's about to
do later. But for right now, I feel pretty good

(02:34:07):
about going to Kansas City, going to Airhead and just
smacking that ass. I'm sorry. And then I got a
thought on on on the rockets real quick.

Speaker 3 (02:34:17):
Real quick, after thirty seconds, assume that.

Speaker 15 (02:34:19):
All is quietly becoming a very big, big force, a
big big part of his rocket squad. I just think
that here he provides an element that we don't have
when he's out on the court. And that's it. Man,
have a good have a good weekend, say drive Fayy.

Speaker 3 (02:34:33):
Same to you.

Speaker 2 (02:34:34):
Roger your lips of God's ears on the Texans too?
Would I know wants to get in on him, We'll
do that. And I mean, I can't help myself. Why
is this guy a thing? I promise you were paying
it all for your money back right here on the
Morning Drive with Danny Cole Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 7 (02:34:48):
Ninety page down. The Morning Drive continues. Now now here's
Dan and Cole.

Speaker 2 (02:34:58):
Gotta pay this office. So Mike Florio is the worst,
like in I know, I mean, it's just he's the
absolute worst. And like it's just at this point again
the question I have why why is he even a thing?

Speaker 4 (02:35:15):
Like seriously, because if we make him a thing, who
does everyone who's complaining about.

Speaker 2 (02:35:22):
Him, because it's a lot to complain about. The guy
is an absolute wet blanket in just somebody. No, he
he wants to be a contrarian for the league that
he covers that honestly, you should be able to print
money running a website like he has, and yet he
has found every single way to make it unpopular, as
Clay Travis once told him, that's incredibly hard to do.

Speaker 3 (02:35:44):
Congratulations Mike.

Speaker 4 (02:35:46):
The thing is is that no matter how you feel
about him, businesses and agents and people who are at
the higher ups will say, guy draws in traction. Good, bad, negative.
People are talking about Mike Floria. So guess what That's
why he's around?

Speaker 3 (02:36:04):
What traction?

Speaker 2 (02:36:05):
Because as far as I know, he gets beat by
Ian Rappaport, he gets beat by Adam Schefter, he gets
beat by James Palmer, he gets beat by Jake Glazers.

Speaker 3 (02:36:14):
Insider I said that he gets traction.

Speaker 2 (02:36:16):
But that's a problem though, honestly on NBC is like
how they're oh the news and notes of the day.
Let's go to what Mike Florio is hearing around the league.
You have a better you have a better shot of
going down on Park Avenue there in New York City
and just plucking someone and putting them at that spot,
because they're gonna give you the same stuff that he
gives you. He gives you the most generic, just broad based,

(02:36:37):
with no information to its quote inside information on the show.
That is a complete waste of time. It's because of
him that I don't watch at football night in America
because him. It's one hundred percent because of him. Meet
him and then go to the bathroom with that. Now,
I cannot I cannot stomach him for one second. As
soon as he comes on, if I am indeed watching it,

(02:36:59):
or if I'm a place and they've got it on
and they've got the sound up in there, then I
step out, I go use the bathroom, I go do
something else, because I find him just that annoying.

Speaker 3 (02:37:08):
I just cannot handle this guy.

Speaker 4 (02:37:10):
He give him the attention that he is somewhat not seeking,
but he is getting, and therefore he begets popular.

Speaker 3 (02:37:15):
So real quick.

Speaker 2 (02:37:15):
I mean, you know, the shot and the chaser of
all of this because, oh boy, he chased it this week.
So he throws out on Pro Football Talk, which again,
you know, he can't even use his own name on Twitter.
He's got a hide behind a moniker. So at Pro
Football Talk on Sunday, Steelers QB Aaron Rodgers capped off
his postgame press conference by implying some players aren't showing

(02:37:35):
up for film sessions on Wednesday. Reporters asked no questions
about his comments, and he has the link to the story. Well,
Twitter itself finally went ahead and just decided to dole
out some justice. The specific question was indeed asked by
ESPN NFL reporter Brooke Pryor, which Prior then clapped back,
that is incorrect, I asked. He answered, here's the exchange

(02:37:59):
with a video attached. Prior even continues, So I'm team
Brooke Pryor.

Speaker 16 (02:38:03):
One.

Speaker 2 (02:38:04):
As reporters were supposed to trust, but verify, all right,
I could deal without that first part and check with
multiple sources before going with something. PFT checked one source
and didn't bother to verify with any number of outlets
covering the team. That's lazy and wrong. Goes even further
to Mike Caboli. I don't know who he's with.

Speaker 3 (02:38:25):
But he works for Pat McFee.

Speaker 2 (02:38:26):
Now, okay, well, he posted a video, I guess of
the Steelers GM saying that there's a lot of fake
news out there, and then.

Speaker 3 (02:38:36):
There was fake news quite literly inside there on building.

Speaker 2 (02:38:39):
So then it goes even further where Florio, I guess
had put together a update to the original post that
he had where he said here's the bottom line. Although
I'll take full responsibility for incorrectly assuming that the Steelers
had posted the full video of Rogers Wednesday press conference.
So a media issue has not received the treatment at Merits.

(02:39:03):
And again, if anyone believes it has, I'm not going
to try to convince them otherwise.

Speaker 3 (02:39:08):
Mike, Yes it has, they said to the video they
showed you.

Speaker 5 (02:39:13):
Then it was.

Speaker 3 (02:39:14):
Asked, so he's defending Aaron Rodgers, right? You have no arguments. No,
But I'm asking is he's defending Aaron Rodgers, right? He is.

Speaker 2 (02:39:21):
He is criticizing the reporters for not asking a follow
up when indeed they did.

Speaker 4 (02:39:27):
I wonder if he's the mystery lady in Aaron Rodgers' life,
because we've never met her before, and he reserving all
the time. I mean, it's just that's something that you
do when you're defend, when you're defending your significant other.

Speaker 2 (02:39:36):
There are countless other people that you can make a
national face of this game, and one of them I
think is incredibly good. And he was on with us
yesterday and he used to be with the NFL network.
I would one hundred percent trust James James Palmer on
Football Night in America. I'll watch Football Night in America
again if you put James Palmer in that spot, and
you're going and you're going to get more bang for
your buck with James Palmer in that spot.

Speaker 4 (02:39:57):
But until people stop reacting to people like Florio, he
is going to continue to gain traction and have a platform.

Speaker 2 (02:40:04):
I don't think he's got the platform that you think
he has. I think that he is completely.

Speaker 3 (02:40:07):
Lost on NBC.

Speaker 4 (02:40:09):
Is he on the major network on Football Night in America.
He's got big enough platform.

Speaker 2 (02:40:13):
Hey, look, you know a buddy of mine's uncle once
gave him wise advice. Hey, one time, one way or another,
we all get ours. And I'm not one of those.
I don't want to see people lose their jobs in
this industry. But I also too. Just when it comes
to things like this, I'm like, this should not be
rewarded anymore, Like it should not be You're not only wrong,
you're not good at your job, and you shouldn't be

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given the platform that he's being given right now.

Speaker 3 (02:40:36):
So there we go. Would you got about a minute left? Man?
What's going on?

Speaker 20 (02:40:42):
Well, I'm wanting to get that negativity out of You'll
out before five is over.

Speaker 12 (02:40:46):
The Texans we're going to recabit.

Speaker 19 (02:40:48):
We got mosts on that deep of the line.

Speaker 12 (02:40:50):
We got archery, airtwips, we got the book kids.

Speaker 20 (02:40:53):
We got the antworks. Like I said, that deep of
the line, like godz Will and King and Ty.

Speaker 12 (02:41:01):
What is that?

Speaker 5 (02:41:02):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (02:41:02):
Japan just paying up the city.

Speaker 20 (02:41:04):
That's what they're gonna do against the AMC South the
AFC Championship, we're gonna take over.

Speaker 12 (02:41:10):
Now, this is our division.

Speaker 20 (02:41:12):
Don't nobody ever forget that. I don't care what kind
of league the coach state they had and Jacksonville is
gonna do.

Speaker 6 (02:41:18):
This is our division.

Speaker 20 (02:41:19):
We better take over the AMC because we didn't beat
down Baltimore Buffalo.

Speaker 12 (02:41:24):
We better take care of Kannas City. I don't care.
Lamar Jackson wasn't there. I don't care that ed Oliba.

Speaker 15 (02:41:30):
Wasn't with Buffalo.

Speaker 20 (02:41:31):
I don't care if the Kansas City ain't looking like
the old Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (02:41:36):
This is our time, this is our year. This is
the time.

Speaker 20 (02:41:39):
We better take over and win a Super Bowl for
the city of Houston and let everybody knowing the world,
like Muhammad a Lead, were gonna shot the world.

Speaker 3 (02:41:48):
There you go, what your prediction.

Speaker 2 (02:41:51):
I'm gonna go twenty eight to twenty four Texans, twenty
eight to twenty Texans.

Speaker 3 (02:41:55):
I'm sure seven three Texans.

Speaker 2 (02:41:57):
There you go, There you go, clean sweep. He's Thompson Triple,
Emmanuel Elmore, Dan Matthews. Let's make it a hell of
a weekend The Matt Thomas Show with Ross coming up next.

Speaker 3 (02:42:05):
Talk to you in sixty eight hours.