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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Let me go, good morning here.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
We are back in the saddle here on the Morning
Drive with Dan and Cole.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I'm the Dan part.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
He is col Thompson, Triple Emmanuel Elmore back in the
saddle too.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We're all back in here.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
And you know, we always have the question of the day,
and we'll go ahead and get that one out of
the way first.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
What's your way of getting back into the swing of
things like this?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
This is the ultimate one of those where a lot
of people had the entire week off last week, and
we worked all the way up until Wednesday and we
get Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday off, so four straight days.
Well some of us Cole Thompson burning the midnight oil
over here because I mean, you, I don't think get
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enough credit for this because everybody you know looks at
Gordy is locked on SEC. He is, but I mean
you're SEC unfiltered your Texans wire too. Yeah, that's another one.
So I mean you yesterday did not have a day off.
As a matter of fact, maybe you had Thursday off.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I had Thanksgiving off and that was about that. That
was quite literally.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I did a live stream right after I got off
here with us on Wednesday, had Thursday to go be
with the family. Friday Egg Bowl coverage, countless other college
football games, lone Star Showdown. Texas still owns Texas A
and M. That's not changing anytime soon. Great matchups on
Saturday Texans game yesterday. College football coaching carousel went crazy,
but suck in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
This is the.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Beginning of the end for you. And credit to the Texans.
They did exactly what we said they were gonna do.
Number One, you stopped up Jonathan Taylor eighty five total
yards to the leading rusher in the NFL. Number Two,
you did just enough offensively. You needed twenty, you got twenty.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
And you know, that's one of the talking points that
we've brought up numerous times. And I was on with
Nate Griffin Fox twenty six this morning and I told
him exactly what I've brought up with you numerous times,
that this offense, you give them twenty, you give them
twenty four, and you're you're able to allow this defense
to go to work. I mean, it's amazing how this
defense looks when you give them a lead, you spot
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them a lead, and they're able to play from in front,
then it gets even more fun for you. And that's
exactly what we saw yesterday in no Indianapolis fans. That's
why I intentionally left the booing in there after the
Nico Collins touchdown for that very reason, because, like, I
love that where you know, oh, well, that was a
crappy pass interference call. How about the one that even
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Chris Simms called out on the pregame on NBC saying
that the hot dog vendor had a better chance at
catching that pass interference football than the guy that was
actually having it thrown to him.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Dude, you know what I love is that after dealing
with t Y Hilton for almost a decade as being
a Texans killer, now it's Nico Collins.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Think the Colts another game with over one hundred yards
ninety eight receiving, you're throwing the seven yard touchdown run,
it's four straight where he hits the triple digit marker,
but the nail on the coffin and go ahead and
get yourself in the end zone. I'll tell you what, man,
it was not a good performance in my opinion, from
the defense, from the standard of what we're usually accustomed
to seeing. Once again, they said, we are giving you sixteen,
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we need twenty offensive enough to go ahead and respond.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
That they did, and the Texans able to get CJ.
Stroud back in the swing of things twenty of thirty
five two hundred and seventy six yards out of him.
He has sacked a couple of times in this game
and the run game too, where it's the aggregate. In
the run game, it's not even about you know, having
one guy go for one hundred and then maybe you
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know a couple of other guys able to jump in.
But what did you think of what do we want
to call the wildcat with Cade Stover?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
What do we want to call that?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
The farmers carry, the farmers plow like farmers care. I
think works because you know he's a big farmer and
you know that that is a workout routine.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
The farmers carry, I would just say.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Gronk smash because he's wearing eighty seven, big time tight end,
just pile driving his way forward.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Not that be for me?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, well, I mean it almost has. It almost comes
back to bite you. I mean I understand too, and
it's just it's it's so aggravating, like I understand what
Demiko Ryans wants this team to be. I understand that
he wants it to be dominate on both lines of scrimmage.
But I mean, just right there, you kick the field
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goal even at fourth, in less than a yard, and
you're having that team have to go seventy plus yards
to try to just tie you up.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I like your chances right there.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I mean, to be completely fair, dude, there were multiple
moments in yesterday's game that were just bad coaching malpractice.
That's going to be a learning lesson for Damika Ryans.
I mean, go back to the two minute warning right
before halftime. They don't really have an identity. They're letting
seconds countless seconds, pull off the clock. JJ Watson on
the broadcast, I don't know what they're trying to do here,
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because if they would go for a good thirty seconds,
let the clock run down, then get a playoff, and
then it'd be like thirty six seconds left with two
timeouts and say, oh you know what, now we're gonna
utilize it. Now we're gonna go ahead and hit reset
and get our team a chance to breathe. And then
like he's on with Evan Washburn afterwards, it's like, well,
we felt confident that we had an opportunity to get
the ball back at the second half, we were just
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trying to get into range. Well, dude, when it's one
fifty one left on the clock and you want to
go for the juggular in a division rival matchup, that
gives you an advantage, show a little bit of at
least heart and intensity at this standpoint, because like, there
was so many things that could have easily gone your
way if you just fixed up a few little moments.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
The fourth down call, kick the damn field goal, go
up by a touchdown, guarantee that Daniel Jones with a
mediocre running attack on Sunday was not gonna be able
to get into that range, force them to.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Earn their way into overtime.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Malpractice, That one whiff right before halftime, couple of really
bad coaching designs I think from Nick Cayley and the
offense of the second half, and how you're sitting at
seven to five, you're three and three away from NRG Stadium.
Guess what you go into Arrowhead next week, you win
that game, you all but eliminate Kansas City in their
playoff chances you have an opportunity to get back in
the first place in the division. Everything now comes down
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to Indianapolis and Jacksonville shooting each other in.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
The foot well, and then also too, I mean, you
just look at the rest of the way for the
Texans and also for the Colts. I mean, for the Texans,
you mentioned that game coming up next Sunday night there
in Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
But then you get the.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Cardinals and Raiders back to back, and you finish up
with the Chargers at their place, and then the Colts
back here in Houston. But it is not as fortunate
for Indianapolis. They have now lost three of their last four.
They're now in second in the AFC South, And you know,
you win next Sunday, you pretty much leapfrogged them for
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the next spot, because I.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Mean, somebody's gonna lose.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
But well, I mean, I guess you could say they
could tie between Jacksonville and Indy and they're gonna take
on each other. So you'll be able to see that
game early on and then get the Texans game on
Sunday night. But they've got Jacksonville twice. They've got to
go to Seattle. They host the forty nine ers and
then they come here to Houston to finish off the season.
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Is it safe to say it's dire straits in Indianapolis
right now? Where it's it's a polar opposite of the
seasons at this point, because the Texans started off zero
to three, getting the three and five at one point,
and it looked like the Colts just had an insurmountable lead.
Now all of a sudden, lose three of your last
four very much in striking distance and trending in the
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absolute wrong direction.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yes, but no.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
And the reason I say that, Dan is because number
one Indianapolis is going to have an opportunity to play
against Jacksonville twice. So if you win those games, you're
right back in the conversation. If you beat up on
Houston in the week eight team matchup, that'll probably be
good enough to win you the division. That's just my
standpoint Number two. I'm sorry, spare me on. Oh well,
they keep finding ways to win. Eventually, the other shoe
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has got to drop on Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
It has to drop.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
They have one significant win in their last five games.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Think about this.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
They won against the Las Vegas Raiders, one of the
worst teams in the NFL that has fired its offensive
coordinator and could be firing its head coach. They lost
the Texans when they had a sixteen point.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Lead going into the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
They were able to handle business against the Los Angeles Chargers.
I will give them credit. Game In Duval found a
way to respond, found a way to beat up on
Justin Herbert, found a way to shut down that offense.
They needed overtime to beat the three win Arizona Cardinals,
and they kick the crap out of the worst team
in the NFL, arguably one of the worst teams I've
seen in the last twenty years.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
In Tennessee.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
You have matchups against the Colts twice, you have a
matchup against the Broncos, and the Jets are at least
gaining enough traction to where if you let them hang
around long enough, you're gonna drop a game. Jacksonviteam means
the odd team out. I refuse to believe that this team,
headlined by Trevor Lawrence, headlined by incompetence when it comes
to the overall defensive prowess. I refuse to believe that
this team is still gonna be in the hunt for
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the playoff. Indianapolis I think is going to sweep them.
It comes down to Houston Week eighteen, NRG Stadium. Who's
getting the division, who's being left out.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, I mean, you know you mentioned about them taking
on the Jets and then they've got to go to Denver.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
That's not going to be easy.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
You get the Colts again, and then I mean you
mentioned the Titans at that point. If you don't have
this thing wrapped up by week eighteen, if you're the Texans,
then I mean you're going to be in a sprint.
But I mean again, you know you talk about the
game that's coming up in Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I mean it's one of.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Those for the Texans that how poetic could it be that,
exactly as you said, you beat Kansas City, then they've
got to run the table to even have a chance
against you.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
And even at that point, it seems like it's not
going to be enough. Well even if it were, or
you ran the table.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
I mean, to me, what I look at in the
standpoint of head to head has to matter at some point,
and if it doesn't matter in the world of college football,
it certainly is gonna matter in the NFL, because if
they're gonna look at the records and say, comment, opponent,
you have a win over them, number two, you also
have a win over US. So if the Texans were
to finish ten and seven, which honestly may be enough
for them to get the seven seed, it may end
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up as being just enough. You should be to Arizona,
you should be Las Vegas, you should be I think
up on the Los Angeles Chargers.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
So that should be ten wins right there.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
If you win this one and you go eleven and
six or ten and seven, it guarantees you were in
over Kansas City because if you would have the head
head win, and I'd rather see that, Like, honestly, I
get it. People want to talk about winning the division.
I think the Texans very well still can. They got
an elite defense. I think the offense saw CJ. Stroud
break out a couple a little bit of the rest
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knew he was gonna have a kind of a shaky performance.
Offensive enough to survive. I still believe Texas could win
this division. I want to guarantee a playoff spot. The
best way to do so shut down Kansas City in
their backyard. Primetime Sunday Night football make Patrick Mahomes feel
like they see and goes like Stan Darnold.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Well, And the funny thing is too is you know,
for all the complaining about the AFC South, I mean
you look at like, say, the AFC North and I
threw it out on Thursday night when Cincinnati you just
went into Baltimore just absolutely crushed him. I was like,
does anybody actually want to win this division? Seriously? I
mean because even then yesterday you get you know, Buffalo
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and Pittsburgh. I mean Pittsburgh just they look like a
shell of who they were early on this season.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
It birk sucks. They look awful.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
And Aaron Rodgers, man, I mean, you want to talk
about a guy that's starting to look old, He's starting
to look.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Old, dude.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
There was a point in yesterday's game where it was
clear that you were watching it broken down. That was
my standpoint. I mean, he is quite literally fighting his
way through father time to say I will not go
out this way.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
And brother, it ain't pretty.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
You were part of a terrible offense, a defense that
can no longer bail you out of trouble. Josh Allen
did not have to have an elite game and he
still was able to hang well, was it twenty four
on you? Where your defense that has been the backbone
this team for years has been able to respond? Mike
Tollmins said, A best guys, I understand where frustration comes
on in like you think as a Texans fan, you
are frustrated because, oh, you're going ten to seven of
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a year. It's the Pittsburgh Steelers. They have more Super
Bowls than coaches in their entire tenure. They have not
won a playoff game in a decade.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
It's crazy to think seven one three, two, one two five,
seven ninety is the number to get in here on
the Morning Drive. We'll have a lot of Texans obviously,
there's a ton of college football to get to. The
Rockets too, can't not mention them after what they did
yesterday and they're gonna be right back again tonight. They're
in Utah, so we can get into all of that
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much more here as we're just getting going on a
Monday edition of The Morning Drive with Dan and Cole.
But coming up, has a corner been has a corner
been turned for the Texans? Well, the trend would say yes.
We'll discuss right here as we get going here on
a Monday, here Morning Drive with Dan and Cole, The.
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So get those in you could also happen too, is
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one two five seven ninety. So it's safe to say
it the Texans in one score games that a corner
has been turned, because the last four wins for you,
four straight, every single one of them one score games,
one score game against Jacksonville when you have to come
back from nineteen behind in that game. You win a
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one score game at Tennessee, not as good a game,
but still you found a.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Way to win.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
And then of course the Thursday night before yesterday in
Indianapolis against Buffalo twenty three to nineteen, and then yesterday,
I almost felt like yesterday was a make good for
the Jaguars game, because it really kind of felt like
the first Jags game, not the second one. Second one,
obviously I gave you the breakdown of how that went,
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but the first one in Jacksonville, where it was the
prototypical hey, we're giving you the game, take the game,
like win this game. No no, no, no, no no no, I
think we want you guys to win it. That was
the Texans yesterday. Whether it be from penalties, whether it
be from just a lack of offensive execution, any of those
things we could very easily right now cole be talking
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about a team that's now six and six as opposed
to seven and five after that one.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Yes, they have turned the corner in terms of winning
one score games. They have not turned the corner in
terms of believing that this team is anything more than
just a playoff bound roster.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Sorry, that's that's where I'm at.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Because again, we can talk about the positives here, which
is Texans won a football game, keep their playoff hops alive,
keep the division hopes alive. You saw enough in the
offense to be able to get the job done. But
I brought this up earlier. Not a defensive performance that
you're looking at and saying, what a what a game like?
I would like you look at josh Allen Gains the
Buffalo Bills game. Eight sacks on the day, seven sacks
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in the second half. You add three incredible turnovers this game.
One sack Sheldon Rankins get him out of the end
zone for the most part, give up a few explosive
plays to Alec Pierce. You have a few big time shots.
Soundfield Tyler Warren Daan Jones found the end zone twice.
You got a critical stop on fourth down by Derek
Stingley Junior against Michael Pittman Junior.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
That was all she wrote.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
It's a good way to say, look, we know that
we didn't have our a ball and yet still won
the game. But when you get into the playoffs, it
still feels like this is a team that when they
face off against the number one seed, there's gonna be
a clear indication on why they are just winning the division,
hosting a playoff game, getting a win over a wild
card team, and coming up short once again.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So like, yeah, you can say this team.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Has turned the corner to be able to now put
themselves right back in the conversation of being a legit
threat to win the AFC South, but nothing has changed
in terms of where they are in the stratosphere of
the pecking order of names that we look at in
the AFC is favorites to win the whole damn thing. Like,
That's where I'm at with it. And it may come
off as again very much a mundane take or very
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much a oh well, you just don't want to go
ahead and believe that the Textans. Guys, Texans have shown
me exactly who they are once again.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
They trust their defense.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
They're told telling us that their offense can get to
twenty points twenty bare be enough for you to win well.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
And that's the thing too, is I mean, you know,
it's one of those that when you win, you're much
more willing to listen to things that we heard out
of CJ. Stroud and everybody else afterwards of you know, J. Stroud, Oh,
you know, the offense, we're making improvements, we're getting better
all of these things, and it's just kind of like,
what does that necessarily look like though, I mean, because
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from what we can see, it's still very much a
white knuckle this thing. And try to find a way
to be able to get into the end zone because
none of them are easy. I mean I even threw
it out there when Nico Collins got pushed out of
bounds there at the five, or he stepped out when
he thought that maybe he had a chance to run
it into the end zone. Before you get the Nick
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Chubb touchdown run that I mean right there at the five,
You're like, what's some of the scariest things to hear
here in local sports?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Red zone offense, Texans have the football at the opponent's five.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Red zone offense just as the same red zone offense.
So you're good at the one, be at the seventeen,
be at the five, doesn't matter, red zone offense. It's
horrifying they still not being able to figure it out
found the right in the end zone yesterday twice when
it came to Nico Collins and the Nick Chubb. I
will give credit recruits to offensively, even with CJ. Stroud
kind of breaking in with breaking off the rust a
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little bit, if you're in your sixty four yards, did enough,
did enough in that standpoint to feel really confident that, hey,
our offense was able to respond in a way to
where we need them to. Defensively, again, you did what
you had to do. I mean, Dan, you and I
talked about all last week. Say it until you blew
in the face. You need to stop Jonathan Taylor. That
is the way to shut down Indianapolis. Eighty five yards
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twenty one carries under three point five yards of play,
they said, Daniel Jones, bus through the air. Okay, Battle'll
throw two touchdown passes. I'll get stopped on fourth down
in the.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Fourth quarter and then have Michael Badgeley, which, by the way,
I mean, is there anything more satisfying than hearing the
doink noise?
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I think that that is the second That's the third
best thing in the NFL. Number one is fatman touchdowns.
Number two is a safety. Number three is the doink.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I will die. I love the doink.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
And it was one of those two like as soon
as it happened, and then like it even caught like
iron Eagle by surprise, like he was like.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Hey, it's a dink, it's off the lift, it's upright.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
What's funny, though, is that this is the second straight
game where because of a point you are now in
the you are now in a four point lead to
where you have to go for the touchdown, because think
about how much your game plan changes last week if
you're Buffalo, if Matt Prater doesn't miss that Pat, think
about what happens if Michael Badgley doesn't miss that Pat
and the alec Pears touchdown.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Sometimes it's those small things though, that can help you out.
And the Texans getting just enough fortune yesterday in this one,
and oh by the way too, I mean, you know,
we always talk about fan based twitters. Colts Twitter was
was all all about you guys.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Didn't really win this game. The referees won it for you.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Is the DWave that's screwed that sings this is our
Colts every single week was see you losing his mind yesterday.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I don't think it was him, but you did have
a lot of people who have horseshoes or pictures of
you know, Carly ersay on on on their their Twitter account.
You had a lot of that coming at you. But
I mean, you know, I mean it's it's not to
say that the Texans didn't do their fair share too
of helping out the opponent. I mean that's the thing is,
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you know, with the penalties. I mean, it's it's the
same thing over and over again, where you've got illegal
motions or you've got pre snap penalties, any of these
things that you're just like kind of like, come on, guys,
it's week thirteen, Like, are we really doing this in
week thirteen?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, because that's who the Texans are.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
And this time next season what we will see is
a new version of the offensive line.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Come on in.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
I think Cole Povitz will Sill be your offensive line coach,
but you're gonna see them bring in two or three
new names, and we're gonna have to have this whole
conversation once again about where are we when it comes
to this offensive personnel, Like, that's is what it is.
It's week thirteen, Dan, at this point, this is who
the Texans offensive line is. It's gotten better, it still
has its faults, it still is going to have careless
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penalties at the worst times possible. Guess what, you gotta
live with the punches because they're not changing. It's like
at some point you got to ask youruff, Oh, this
is where our team comes together. No, this is what
your team is. This is who you are as an
offense figure. You're out a way to work around and
to be able to guarantee that you find ways to win.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
And that's seemingly.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Where most of the uh, most of the penalties happen too,
is on the offensive end. I mean, because you would
think defensively you're going to get a you know, illegal
hands at a face, so you're gonna get in uh,
you know, uh whatever illegal contact or whatever it is.
You know, some of those five yards a holding here
and there, you don't really have a ton of them
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on the defensive end.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
You have nothing on the defensive side, like you'll get
one pass interference call a game by somebody, whether it
be Kamari Loster, Klen Ballock or Derek Singley junior, and
outside that it's pretty much for the majority of the
game all off its penalties.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yeah, so hopefully, I mean it's again a huge hope
because we've been saying this for the better part of
the last couple of years.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
That can be cleaned up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
But again, it doesn't seem like that is a trend
that is going to be going in the Texans direction.
Apparently we're huge with Rogers this morning, So we got
two guys named Roger on hold you.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Want to join them?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
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someone three to two one two five seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Which one you think is it gonna answer? Ask the
better question?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
You're gonna have Roger and Harlington. You gonna go with
Roger without a location. I'll go with one A and
one B.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
How about that.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I understand that, you know, I usually say pick a
side here, but I think that both of them have
a chance to bring the heat this morning, so I
like to.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
It's gonna be the better It is gonna be the
better question. I don't. I'm not gonna reveal who I have.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Is one A?
Speaker 6 (22:25):
One?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (22:26):
All right?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
The way fair? So the expectations are there, Rogers, It's
all there for you.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
And even if your name is not Roger again, seven
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way to get in.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Let's get a third Roger.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
Come on?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Okay, yeah, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Even if you have a D in there, like you know,
Roger the Dodger, you know, even even if you have
that as part of your name, please, or even if
your last name is Rogers, you know, you could even
throw that in there. But we'll continue the Texans conversation
because the magic number was hit.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
What exactly is that magic number?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
We will discussed here as we continue on the morning
Drive with Dan and Cole right here, Sports.
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Speaker 7 (24:09):
Hey, it's Hunt Broschevy Ashs game on Sports Talk seven
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Speaker 3 (24:20):
seOne three two on two five seven ninety is the
number two get in. We'll go with Roger in. Harlingen
wants to weigh in. Roger, good morning, how.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
Are you doing? Guys? Love your show? Been paying attention
to who has the best question? Okay, first of all,
I was a good win yesterday, and I know where
you're coming from about just making the playoffs and et cetera.
But here's my question about the game within the game.
When does the league decide or when do the coaches
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decide to put players in there that are injured? And
I'm speaking a specifically the Indianapolis coast. Did you see
that guy out there? What's his name?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Jones?
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Daniel Dimees? Yeah, man, that was terrible. I mean, first
of all, I love the players and I love everything.
But it's a product, correct. They have to go out
there and produce, They have to bring in the fans,
et cetera. But who decides not just the player, But
there was another one there was like, what's his name
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Aaron Rodgers for example. I mean, who decides on these
players' careers and et cetera. I hope that's a good question. Guys,
love your show, and it's a not a lot about
the Houston Texas, it's about the league. Also, thanks a lot, guys, yep.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I appreciate it, Roger. I mean I think a lot
of it is. You know, it's it's up to the player,
you know, what's your pain tolerance. But I mean, we
even had the report before the game last week that
Daniel Jones was banged up.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
He's playing with a fractured fibula.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Trying to go ahead and salvage a season your ears
the bottom line, dude, He's doing it for two reasons.
Number one, wants concert extension. Wants to be able to
say I'm the quarterback long term here. Number Two, Indian Applis,
where do you go? I mean, remember, guys, they trade
away both first round picks in next year's draft in
twenty twenty seven to land Sauce Gardner. Sauce Carter got
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hurt in yesterday's game with a calf injury. You know
anything about calf injuries, It's like a snowflake. There's not
one that is the exact same as the other. He
could be out for a week, he could be out
for the rest of the season. He could be done
until the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
We don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
So Daniel Jones is the best option you have at quarterback.
He's trying to guarantee that he is back next season
on a long term deal.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
He's playing through freaking pain, and honestly, he had a
decent day yesterday. Didn't wasn't a.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Lead by any means, had two really, really really bad throws,
could have been intercepted twice. Ball hung in the air
a little bit too long for Kamario Lost to make
a play on it. Good fourth out stopic Derek Singley Junior,
But he found the end zone twice.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Is he want to make enough playing? Indianapolis needs Daniel Jones.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I never thought I would say that Indianapolis needs Daniel
Jones to win and make it to the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Riley Leonard would be who they would turn to if
you had to go to the backup route because Jones
wasn't healthy enough to be able to go. And well,
if you want to have your season's hopes hinge on
a rookie sixth round pick, well then Riley Leonard's your guy.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
You mean a guy who also averaged less than one
hundred passing yards in college and has no past tempts
in the NFL outside everything one like, yeah, I mean,
good good luck guys, good luck any race where. This
has become one of the more intriguing divisions in the NFL,
because if you have the Texan surgeon at the right time,
Jacksonville still is able to survive with like its fourteenth
life in Indianapolis is having an MVP running gay.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
As I mentioned, dire straits right now in Indianapolis. But
another thing that I always mentioned, that's their problem. Let's
go with the other Roger who wants to wait in
good morning? Roger, how you doing good morning?
Speaker 9 (27:56):
Hoping up the door? You can work over here. So
I don't really have a question, but if I had to,
I guess I can put it into the form of
a questions on one of these thoughts that I have. Uh, yeah,
we kind of stap the game there. That could have
went the other way very easily.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
You know.
Speaker 9 (28:14):
Uh, I'm gonna say Stroud Shroud did you know did
knock off the Russ But he made two throws that
you should not be making, uh with a with a
quarterbacks of that much experience. Uh and uh, I just
do Lucky's part of the game too, So yeah, I
just shocked it off to that. My my thing is
when we go to Kansas City, we have a chance
to do something that we've never done. We can knock
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them out of the playoffs, and and and and Kansas
City is as gettable as they're ever going to be.
So my thing is, which which told do we not
burn off till we can escape so we can escape
with a win over there, because our coaching decisions are
becoming very questionable. Uh with that film go and that
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double tush push. I mean, these are kind of things
that will lose your game. And if you're playing the
teams like Kansas City open up and over there in case,
so I'm thinking about which fascet to The defense is
always going to be there. You don't have to worry
about that. And this defense does deserve a better faith.
Uh so we we we can do a lot of things,
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go to k C and and and and putting them
down for good. My thing is which one do we
need for which one do we need the most? Do
we need the coach?
Speaker 6 (29:26):
I know, we I know.
Speaker 9 (29:27):
It's just it's a choice one or the others. Which
one do we need? Do we need better coaching or
do we need sid to have?
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Right?
Speaker 9 (29:34):
Really, the A plus game out there, and and and
and get this over the get us over the hump
and put us at eighty five. That's what the only
thing I have, you know.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
Uh, yeah, it was.
Speaker 9 (29:42):
It was a great win, double win for Houston. You know,
rockets rocketson Texas. That's always a good thing. Guys, fellas,
stay dry, enjoy Munday.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah, saying to you Roger, appreciate it. I would say
that coaching, but there's very few coaches in this league.
They're gonna have coach Andy Reid now, So it comes
down to CJ. Shroud.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Also, remind yourself, it's not any read after a bye,
but it's any read with longer than a week to
mentally prepare for this game.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Because they played on Thursday. So that's another thing.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
You got to add on in for me what this
really is. And I think Roger brought up a really
good point. Rogers said that the defense didn't have its
best day. The defense at this point has earned the
right to have a mulligan. The defense at this point
has been the backbone of your team for the last
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ten weeks. The reason why you were sitting at seven
and five is because your defense is delivered. And they
gave up two touchdowns and you needed CJ.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Strouding.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
You need the passing attacking, You need Nick Keayley with
the play designs to be able to kind of bail
you out of trouble. The defense earned a mulligan. They
got their mulligan yesterday against Indianapolis. They were able to
get a critical fourth down stop. They were able to
go ahead and ice the game with the Woody Marks
run at the end. You need your defense to play
better against Patrick Mahomes. You got to force some turnovers,
you gotta get some pressures. Here's the other thing, Dan,
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They got one sack yesterday against an offensive line that
had been meddling. They gave up thirteen sacks in the
month of November, the most that a team has this year.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I'm going to be.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Really intrigued to see how does Kansas City prepare for
daneil Hunter and for Willy Anderson and the passers that
you have coming up the inside with no Josh Simmons
and another backup quarter I mean another backup tackle on
the right side. So there's a really good game plan
for Houston because of the defense, how well it's been,
how much it's been attacking, how much it's gone after.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Good quarterbacks this season.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
For them to be able to basically shut down Patrick
Mahomes and force the defense to shut down c J.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Shaw on the opposing side, the defense has to step
on up. I think the next game.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Well, I mean, I understand in those turnovers yesterday, but
holding the Colts to three for twelve combined on third
and fourth down not bad. Nope, three of ten on
third zero for two on four of them. So I mean,
I guess in that sense with the fourth downs, you're
able to get them off the fields.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
So that's nice to see.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
I'm nitpicking here again. It was under three hundred yard performance.
You only gave up fourteen points through the year. You
held them to one extra field goal. I mean like
you did your job. I'm the same from what we're
so accustomed to seeing with the Texans, turnover prone, multiple
sack game by Will Anderson Junior, stuff like that. It
wasn't the game that we're so accustom of watching here
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in Houston. Doesn't mean it was a terrible performance.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
It was that standards thing. Yeah, that's standards. You know,
you hear that word a lot now, the standard. In
this case, they had a.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
B minus performance, and B minus was good enough to
get the job done on a Sunday.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
That's it. Four point win is what it earns you.
As the Texans now seven to five on this season.
We'll continue the conversation one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
We just mentioned, CJ.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Stroud, what do we give the performance yesterday there in
Indy will discuss that as he plays his first game
in over three weeks. We will continue here on the
Morning Drive with Dan and Cole.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Right here when you're home with the Astros and the
Rockets Sports Talk seven to.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Ninety, they are on Morning Drive. Here's Dan Matthews and
Cold Thompson. And then you know, just am I spending
every day on ice because that's the thing. You gotta
fill the whole thing up in ice.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Hey, why don't we have an ice maker like you know,
like you see at convenience stores. Don't ask questions, all right,
don't ask questions. Sat out of your house right now.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Just go put on. That's it.
Speaker 7 (33:24):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
One of those that's gonna cost you fifth that's gonna
cost you five thousand dollars just right there. But hell,
you get your ice bath every morning.
Speaker 10 (33:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I was gonna say, you know, get that, get that
release to start the day.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
But the way, I hate the cold shower conversation because
I I don't think that you that that it ends
up doing anything for you.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Me farceling Richard Macowitz the former Navy seal who unfortunately
is no longer with us, but he once set on
the gym Rome show that it it.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
It forged a toughness groove in his brain where he would.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Wake up at four am and take a cold shower
to be able to uh toughen himself up for the day.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
I just feel like that sucks either way because once
you once you get out, you're freezing your ass off.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
That's the problem.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Oh, I mean, that's kind of the whole point. It's
about being uncomfortable and then you know, being able to
get into it from there. But anyway, the Texans made
the Colts uncomfortable yesterday twenty to sixteen, when they're in Indianapolis.
They're seven to five now in the season, Rockets with
a nice win over the Jazz one twenty nine one
oh one, and h Lane Kiffin, new head coach at
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lsu as I said in the seven o'clock hour, we'll
get into a little bit of the college football from
not only the national landscape but also to locally, because
you had a good one on Friday night in Austin.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
At least for the Longhorns, not so much for the Aggies.
So we'll have all that there.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
But seven one three two one two five seven ninety
is the number. Continuing the Texans conversation here C J.
Stroud yesterday C minus. Wouldn't we go maybe about C
minus with him? See again twenty two of thirty five.
He throws an interception, but two hundred and seventy six
yards and he has just enough of a run game
to be able to help him out in this one.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
See I will go straight see in this game number one,
he hasn't played in nearly a month. I will give
you the benefit of the doubt in that one. You
were able to put the You were able to put
the Texans inside the red zone twice. You scored on
both instances. You were able to get Cayami Fairburn in
field goal range he went to for two. You had
three awful throws, including the Xavier Hutcheson touchdown. I mean
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the Xavier Houchison pick like that was just malpractice. That's
an excuseable even though you are coming off of having
missing the last near month of play. That's a veteran
move that you should be better at. But there were
also some things that you were very limited on. First half,
you could run the football to save your life. At
one point you didn't know if what he marks was
going to come back in the game. You had two
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really bad drop calls. You had four really horrendous play
designs going into halftime. The again, you go right to
the very last drive, one fifty one left on the clock,
two timeouts. Nobody has any idea of what the what
you thought you were going to be. Nobody had any
idea what Nico I mean, what Demiko Ryan. But Nick
Kaylee was doing not even a little bit. It was
as weird as all hell on what you just out
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on that one, and yet still you were able to
do just enough to go ahead and drive. You made
the right reads on the final drive, you hand off
the ball, you didn't fumble it, what he marks, goes
ahead and gets the first down.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
You ice the game. I just see again? Did I
want to see more? Absolutely? Am I okay with CJ.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Stroud having an underwhelming performance in his first game back
and over a month.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, I'm okay with it. I mean it's like a
group project.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I mean, you're gonna have somebody that puts in a
little bit more leg work than everybody else. And I'm
not saying that it's not you know, it's it's an
issue of effort. But I mean with CJ, the expectations
are pretty simple. I don't need A plus work out
of you every single week. I don't even need B
minus workout of you. You give me C level work.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
That's fine. I can win with that.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
I mean I would rather say you would have B
minus work like just personally, because again I'd rather have
a better passing grade overall. But again, when you look
at the team right now, defensively, you're always baling yourself
out of trouble. You're always going to be able to
put pressure on quarterbacks to make mental mistakes. On top
of all that, Dan, the other thing that's really important
to here is that we finally got to see a
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little bit of the trickery of Nick Cayley with the
play designs inside the red zone, calling a seven yard
run with jet sweep and the turner, I mean, with
the end around to Nico Collins to get your way
on in pretty smart playing. Caught everybody off guard, nearly
caught the Cayminger ran off guard too. I'll take that
because if you want to what it shows that you're
being innovative and you're trying to go.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Ahead and take the risk of guarantee the win.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Seven one three, two, one two five, seven ninety is
the number to get in. Let's go to my hometown,
bell Air. Jordan wants to wag in. Good morning Jordan,
of course, the morning guys.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
Thanks, I appreciate the show.
Speaker 11 (37:41):
Thanks, I appreciate the technis credit detectants from winning in
spite of Tomiko's more of a play calling or Nick
Kayla's horrible play calling and Dimiko's terrible clot management, explain
to me what was going on in the last minute
of the second quarter.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Please, dude, I have no idea. I mean, listen, listen.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
When you have a three time defensive Player of the
Year in JJ Watt telling you, I have no idea
what this team is doing. Why are you not calling timeouts? Dude,
there's thirty seconds coming off the clock. Call a timeout,
Call play. Get to the line of screamage faster. When
you have him saying this out loud, that is the
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ultimate sign of nobody has any idea what's going on.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
It is just blank behind the canvas. Nobody is steering
the ship. End of the night. You quite literally are
playing on a winging up prayer at this point.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Well, I mean, and my whole thing is with timeouts,
Like why keep them? It's not like you get to
carry them over and you're getting the ball to start
the second half too, So like, why not give yourself
every single opportunity to not only increase your lead, but
then to also give yourself a chance of maybe you
can go two for one right there.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Dan, just like go a little bit further.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
They got a first down, They got a first down
conversion with one ten left on the clock. Their next
play got off at forty five. They took thirty five
seconds off the clock, and then after nine seconds with
the football finally called a timeout, they got another first
down with two seconds left on the clock, and then
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they said, oh, you know what, now we're gonna call
a timeout. Oh we're gonna let Indy call timeout, and
we're gonna think about going in sending out Cayami Fairban.
Now you know what was gonna throw downfield? Like that's
just it, Like constantly you're watching as this team had
no motion. And I'm sorry if I'm gonna give a
lot of disrespect to CJ. Stroud and say that you
got to play better when making some throws in the
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first half and not have that batting reception by Cameron
bid them because you're a veteran quarterback.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
To me, go, this is not your first year as
a head coach.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
This is not your first rodeo playing in a matchup
against a division opponent that could end up winning the
whole dang thing. You've been in this situation before. You
should know how to handle a two minute offense because
you've done it, and you can't use the excuse of oh, well,
you know what we have the ball coming out of halftime, Well,
why not go ahead and build a ten point lead
versus having a three point lead. Why not go into
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the halftime feeling pretty confident that your offense is doing
just enough to guarantee you get another Kayami fairmanfield goal to.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Make it a seven point swing instead of a four
point swing.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
Like just bad coaching mistakes throughout the afternoon really kind
of newly came back to bite Houston and the keyster.
Thankfully you were able to get a big stop by
Derek Singley Junior. You got a big conversion by what
he marks in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
No getting bitten the keysterer. You don't want any of
those things. That's what you want to avoid times. Oh
that's that's fine, that's fine. We we got the point.
But anyway, we'll continue that Texans conversation. You want to
get in on at seven one three, two, one two five,
seven ninety is the number to get in.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
The campaigning has begun for this.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Local coach, and we will discuss that right here as
we get into the seven o'clock hour here on the
Morning Drive with Dan and Cole. Right here on a
Monday Sports Talk seven ninety KB.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Houston AHD to Houston.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
Astro their rockets Rockets as befall your home for your
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station Guaranteed Human.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
This is the Morning Drive with Dad and Cole, and.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
We're talking about him right now, Texas Longhorns over Texas
and them twenty seven seventeen on Friday nights and immediately
after it's happened. I mean, Cole, remember a few weeks
ago where you had Steve Sarkisian after they lost to
Florida talking about you know, one hundred and something other teams. Well,
you know, I'd like to see them go to you
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go to Columbus and then go to Gainesville and see
how they do. And people were like, you know, ow,
you know, making excuses, it just everything that was being
thrown against Steve Sarkisian. But shortly afterwards, because I think
I had a little bit of the same reaction most
people had. But then I was like, wait a minute,
you guys are missing the point here. He's already greasing
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the wheels for knowing that probably between Oklahoma and Georgia
he's losing one of those two games, right and even
the A and M game where it was like, if
we're nine and three, I'm gonna have to put my
campaigning shoes on.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Well, he started that well before he even had a campaign,
because think about it, dude, Like they were coming into
the Red River shootout at three and two, they could
have just ran the table afterwards being Oklahoma beaten Georgia
beaten Texas A and M, and.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
They would have had a shot.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
They would have easily with that resume of what they
would have had with a lost to a bad Florida team,
but also the number one team in the country. Nobody's
keeping you out. That's arguably the best resume in college football.
At ten and two, you still have an opportunity to
go to Atlanta and play for an SEC title that season,
even with all the faults that he had early on
in the season. So yeah, the campaigning I think really
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started after that loss in Gainesville because if he realized
I had a game where I probably should have won,
found a way to screw it on up.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Now, I got to make sure that there's no margin
for era.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
But if we do mess up at some point, I
got to flip the narrative to where people are paying
attention to us.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
For all the right right reasons, and the campaigning continued
on the field afterwards with ABC, here was Texas he
coach Steve Sarkisian.
Speaker 12 (43:19):
Can you tell me that team's undefeated, number three in
the country. A lot of the pundits out there think
they're the number.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
One team in the country. We just beat them by ten.
What kind of statement do you think that made to
the committee?
Speaker 12 (43:29):
Well, I think this if you really look at the
body of work, and you look at the Southeastern Conference
of what we have to go through every week, if
you look at the non conference schedule. We played to
go to Ohio State in Week one and lose by seven,
when we outgained them by nearly two hundred yards. We
got a really good football team, and it'd be a
disservice to our sport if this team's not a playoff team.
When we went to scheduled that non conference game, because
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if we're a ten to two team, it's not a question,
but we were willing to go play that game.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
So is that what college football is about? Don't play
anybody and just have.
Speaker 12 (43:59):
A good record, play the beast, and put the best
teams in the playoff and.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
We're one of the best teams. I always love that.
Is this what we're really about?
Speaker 3 (44:07):
I mean, that's a lot of that is a hat
tip to his former boss, because remember Nick Saban had,
you know, turn it into free agency.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Is this what we want the game to be?
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yeah, I mean that's it. It is always funny to
hear the former Saban guys sound like him. But I mean,
at least some of the points he brought up valid.
I mean about the three top ten wins, all three
of them, well two of them at home. You get
the one on Friday Night, you get the Vanderbilt one
about a month ago, and then of course you beat
Oklahoma and Dallas. But that can't be underscored. Here is
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the Achilles heel is. I get the the loss at
at Ohio State, that's fine, But then how many wins
that Florida.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Have this year?
Speaker 6 (44:46):
Four?
Speaker 13 (44:47):
Four?
Speaker 3 (44:48):
You lost to four wins. You were one of the
four wins to Florida in that one. That's a massive
ding against you. The other massive ding is I get it,
it was at their place. You were not competitive against Georgia. Nope,
not even close. So I mean, yeah, he does have
a valid point about Hey, we took a chance and
we swung and miss with the Ohio State loss, and yeah,
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they're ten and two right now, they're safely in.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
There's no problem. I get all of that. But at
the same time, though too, those two losses bad bad.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
I will go a step further and actually defend Texas
in one standpoint, there are ten and two teams that
currently are in the College Football playoff hunt or in
the playoff right now that I do not believe have
a resume and have looked as polished as Texas has
to close out the season. I will stand on that
Texas has three of the most desperate I mean, has
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three of the most detrimental, no questions asked.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
We are a legit force to win a national title.
Speaker 4 (45:48):
Victories this season Texas A and m Oklahoma Vanderbilt, who
even when they were able to come on back. Guys,
they were up by three scores going into the final
twelve minutes of the game. They handled business against Vanderbilt.
They did their due diligence. They belong in the College
Football Playoff if we're just talking about the quality of wins.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Just on that standpoint, that is a fact. Dan Matthews
here is the other fact.
Speaker 4 (46:15):
You were out gained by one hundred yards and lost
the time of possession by eleven minutes, and the turnover
battle to a team that fired its head coach two
weeks after beating you. Then you have an opportunity to
show on up in the game against Georgia. And I
know what people are gonna say, Well, it was fourteen
to ten going into the fourth quarter. Well, Dan, it
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was fourteen ten going into the fourth quarter. They could
have had the job done. Guys, look at the numbers.
Wasn't close. Texas did nothing offensively in that game outside
of one touchdown pass in the third quarter. Kirby Smart
comes on out, they get a touchdown to start the
fourth quarter, they get the on side kick, Momentum leaves
immediately the locker, the Longhorn side goes all over to Georgia.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
You lose by twenty five, lost by seven seven.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
I still would consider the long horns of college football
playoff team. You can't lose by twenty five on national
television on the road and then lose to a four
win Florida team and be sticking out your chest and
acting like we belong in the conversation and the reason
why think that we even are having this conversation is
because of you did schedule a tough opponent in Ohio
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State Week one. If you scheduled a cupcake and you
ended up losing to Florida, you still have an argument
to whar hey if you looked as bad as you
did against other teams, and let's just say that it
wasn't a Florida, Let's say you lost in Red River
to Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Oklahoma now has that one over you. Well, guess what.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
Now you're sitting at the eleven spot this season alone,
it's been abundantly clear in the College Football Playoff you've
got to be in the top ten to guarantee your
spot because we got to give a team. We gotta
give a representation to either the AAC or the ACC and.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
The other group of five school. So you got to
be in the top ten. You may not have had that.
Speaker 4 (47:54):
And the part that you're really annoying with all this
when it comes to Texas is that you're acting like, oh, well,
we had to schedule a tough non conference game. Brother,
you play in the SEC. You play in the toughest
conference in college football. Let me remind you of something
South Carolina finished the year four and eight.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Two.
Speaker 4 (48:12):
They nearly dismantled Texas A and M. You want to
know why, because even the bad teams in the SEC,
when they show on up, they are going to be
able to beat the good teams on any given Saturday
if you do not deliver your A play A plus punch.
Oh and if that's not enough, Dan, you nearly lost
in Mississippi State. You need a fourth quarter comeback to
win that one. In overtime. You nearly lost to Kentucky,
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who fired Mark Soops this morning after needing an overtime
winning that matchup.
Speaker 7 (48:38):
Two.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yeah, I mean, and that's the part that I don't
think is being talked about enough. Is it's not like
this has been an impressive nine to three season. I mean,
there are a lot of games that looked at with
them and you're just like, man, like, you know, what
is it with this group? But I mean, I'll give
them credit for Friday night, You've been looking at that
offensive line and saying, hey, is this group ever gonna
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find a way? And they did, and I mean they
put together their best performance at the right time. But
it's just the problem. I mean, you mentioned it even
the wins, a lot of them just unimpressive. I mean,
even after you lost that game the Ohio State, you
come back home a jo hum game against San Jose,
a terrible game that if UTEP was any better, you
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probably lose that game to them. And then of course,
you know, you had to see him Houston game and
everybody's like, oh, the offense looks great, arch is great.
We finally got this going in the right direction, and
you didn't because in the following week you went to
Florida and you lost.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
Dude, I'll tell you right now, though, if they showed
up the way that they did against Texas A and
M versus Florida, they win that game. If they showed
up the way that they did against Texas A and
M at Georgia, they make it a four quarter battle.
They quite literally look at the scoreboard and it's fourteen
to ten. Because if it is an intense battle, all
the things that I thought I knew about Texas A
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and M going into this game, better offensive line, better
rushing attack, more explosive plays with the wide receivers.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
It was all in favor of Texas.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Like all the little things that you want to see
for this team that showed on up and that version
of Texas is good enough to be in the College
Football Playoff. But you can't just show up in that game.
You have to show up in the one in Lexington.
You had to show up in the one in Stark Film.
And by the way, all the people who were saying, well,
Texas A and M, who have they scheduled? Who have
they played off against last this season? That's such a
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daunting task. Guys, do you not remember we were having
the same conversation last year about Texas, like, oh, you
had to face off against Missippi State, didn't have a
winning conference play.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Oh, you had to show up against Kentucky. Look at
how easy that was for you.
Speaker 4 (50:36):
They had one winning conference play against Ole miss Oh,
you had to show up against this team, that team, Oh,
all these teams that struggled. You played one team that
finished with the record above five hundred in the SEC
last year, and we crowned you the next big time
force in the SEC, which, by the way, I think that.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Steve Starkeishan will do that.
Speaker 4 (50:53):
To think about this, Dan, it's a down year of
Texas with three top ten wins, Like, there's worse places
to be in considering a down offseason, and it's clear
that Arch Manning is the quarterback as advertised.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
He just didn't show up in week one.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
In Week five, he showed up the rest of the season,
got a good offseason to go ahead and build around him.
Texas is gonna be fine. They'll be right back in
the hut this year. But there wasn't enough chaos on
Saturday for you to be able to back to your
way on in. You showed up miserably against Mississippi State
and Kentucky in wins. You didn't show up in Gainesville,
you didn't show up in Athens. That's why you're out
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of the college football playoff, not because of your lost
to Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
Yeah, Ohio State did help you out in beating Michigan,
so I mean that that gave you a chance. But
then I mean, Oklahoma holding on the win that hurts you?
Know what was it another one to Notre Dame winning
that that hurts you. I mean, there were a handful
of games that you could look at and say, man,
you know, I would say that probably if you had
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three losses from either of those teams this weekend, then
right now we're talking about Texas being a top ten
team and probably fine in their way.
Speaker 4 (51:59):
You would have needed and Alabama to lose, Utah to lose,
BYU to lose, Miami to lose, Vanderbilt to lose, and
probably No a Day to lose to guarantee you're in
the top ten. Because I will say, if we're talking
about a three lost team, Texas is the one team
that you can consider to be a college football playoff
mat I fully and convinced about that one. But not
enough chaos, not enough traction, not enough I would say
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moments throughout the year to where you could guarantee this
is what we're gonna expect. Because again that's the other
part is that you didn't show up in certain games.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Guess what happened.
Speaker 4 (52:28):
Now people are are nitpicking your overall schedule in the
overall on field play.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
All right, So Lane Kiffin makes the move and did
els you finally get it right? We'll discuss that right
here as we get into the seven o'clock hour on
the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
Right here Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (52:47):
Back to the Morning Drive. Here's Dan Matthews and Cole Thompson.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
I think we did when you know because both me
and you, before you know, sitting in these chairs full time.
We had both spent time with the the A team.
I was their producer, then you took over after I
came here, and now Joshua Jordan on with them. But
I believe that Clinton was taken aback when he was
like he's never had a cup of coffee before.
Speaker 4 (53:16):
Nope, I still and I found that out on my
very last week because I was wondering as both of
us came in from Thursday night football on very little sleep,
staying up in the press box until two in the morning. Hey,
how are you functioning today? You know, just a nice
gold class of water, bro, What the hell like I mean?
And apparently this is just like normal functioning back. So
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can't wait to hear what he has to say about
the entire situation. I wonder if he's going to be
like me and say, listen, Texan's good Win. Still got
a lot of things to fix if you want to
be a Super Bowl contender, Sorry, you just.
Speaker 7 (53:45):
Have to do that.
Speaker 3 (53:46):
Yeah, and we'll continue the Texans conversation here too, if
you want to get in on that. SEB one three,
two one two five seven ninety. But of course, the
story that was overriding all of sports yesterday was an
exit for Oxford, Mississippi in a landing in Baton Rouge, Louisiana,
as Lane Kiffen decides that LSU is his next spot.
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And you had it all yesterday, I mean, of all
the things that we've seen. And it's not like Lane
is unfamiliar with this because when he left Tennessee in
two thousand and nine, it was damn near a riot
there in Knoxville.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
When he decided to go.
Speaker 4 (54:23):
To damn near right there was a riot, so they
were looking mattresses on fire and they tried to burn
down Rocky Top.
Speaker 3 (54:30):
So he had all of that and you know, painting
the rock, doing all of that kind of stuff. Then yesterday,
I mean, it was rife with everything. There were reports
that he's giving his staff ultimatums of hey, be at
the plane at this time, and if you're not, then
I assume that you're not coming to Baton Rouge with us,
which he did tell Marty Smith that wasn't the case.
That you know, he didn't have any of those things.
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And I think that there's even been subsequent reports afterwards
that like some of the guys might stick around, and
even some of the guys that went or are still
planning on coaching team during the playoff. But you know,
so he gets there, you get him leaving the airport.
You got LSU fans out there, you know, channing, you
know LSU LSU as he's as he's driving out and
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he's meeting with recruits. I mean almost kind of doing
like you know how in the Vatican the Pope will
go to the to the terrorists right there and everybody's like,
oh my god, it's the Pope. Did you notice that
Lane was kind of doing that out of his office
and you had some LSU fans out there, many.
Speaker 4 (55:27):
People losing their mind yesterday and bat Rugen also in Oxford, Mississippi.
And the reason that we talked about this is we
here at Sports Talk seven ninety are the home for
the LSU Tigers.
Speaker 2 (55:35):
If you want to listen, I'm.
Speaker 4 (55:37):
Gonna say this, Dan must say this as kindly as possible.
There's a lot of people that want to listen in
on this conversation about what is this supposed to be?
This is a slam dunk, no questions asked, home run
higher by LSU, far and away, new athletic director. A
month ago, you had no idea if you were even
going to be able to get out of this contract
with Brian Kelly. You have Jeff Landry making a mockery
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of the stale Louisiana it is. It is so much
toxicity in the state and you still found a way
to land the best person possible for the job. With
that being said, Lane, I have a mets about respect
for what you were able to accomplish at Ole Miss.
Speaker 2 (56:21):
You are kidding yourself. It is comical.
Speaker 4 (56:25):
It is absolutely a laughable offense to think that you
can be the head coach at LSU and coach the
Ole Miss Rebels. It's a breach of contract and it's
a breach of interest. In no way, shape or form.
Could you say I am taking the money. I am
running on over to Baton Rouge. I am going to
be content now taking over a program that is known
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for winning national titles. But I'm must stick around here
for another month. Go ahead and tell the players that
I want to come with me to Louisiana. Hey, it
doesn't matter what we do in the playoff here, We're
just gonna go ahead and win it next season when
we go out to LSU. So congratulations, Lane, I completely
understand you may the right call. You made the call
that you thought was best for you and your interest.
All fine with that, bottom line, you can't sit here
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and play the victim card when you decide to go
ahead and quit on your team, because when play we
do this all the time with players. Oh, it's such
a shame, the players a running the transfer portal. Dude,
you had the best season in Oxford football history.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
You said it wasn't good enough. You're ran, and you
took the money to bat Rouge.
Speaker 3 (57:21):
Well. Speaking of Lane talking about his wishes to stay
on with Ole Miss throughout the playoff, he said as
much yesterday when he caught up with Marty Smith before
boarding the plane to go to baton Rouge.
Speaker 13 (57:33):
This was a very challenging, difficult day.
Speaker 14 (57:35):
You know, we went through a lot last night with
Keith Carter trying to figure out a way, you know,
to make this playoff, you know, run work and be
able to coach the team. And at the end of
the day, that's his decision and I totally respect that.
I understand that decision, and you know, so I just
totally wish the team the best of the luck wish
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that I was coaching, but understand that it was very
challenging position for him the chancer to be in and
totally respect that.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
And he even talked about how Keith Carter had said, Hey,
I've got to live here, like basically, I'm not just
gonna let you go to our hated rival and be
able to still coach us in the playoff.
Speaker 4 (58:17):
Like, if you're leaving, you're leaving. Dude, it's a bad
look for Keith Carter. It's a one hundred percent of
bad look for Keith Carter. Let me make this clear, Dan, Like,
this has been one of the better rivalry matchups over
the last five years because of Lane Kiffin's added validity
to it.
Speaker 3 (58:30):
Do you think that Keith Carter went Dean Gordon Pritchard
from old school, this is me leaving, this is me leaving.
Speaker 6 (58:37):
No.
Speaker 4 (58:37):
I think he gave him them. I think he gave
him the burden said get out out. I think that's
why he said we're not good enough for you see
a Pete Golding walk into the show, Bud, Like, I mean,
let's be real that it was the right move. I
understand that Lane kiffen what he was able to accomplish
what he was able to build in that program, what
he was able to attain their three to ten wins seasons.
Speaker 2 (58:56):
It's the best run of ole Miss football.
Speaker 4 (58:58):
Lane told you straight to your face, I'm leaving you
because of I don't think you're good enough. You think
that we're gonna reward you to stick around and be
a part of our staff as we are going on
a run to make the college football Playoff. No, he
made it abundantly clear, even with the best season possible,
I think that there's a ceiling. There's not one at
louis There's not one at Louisiana State University. I'm taking
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the money.
Speaker 2 (59:21):
I'm going there.
Speaker 3 (59:22):
Well, I mean I think that he looks at LSU
as opposed to ole Miss and says we can have
this many years.
Speaker 2 (59:28):
I'm not sure that I can never really have this
again at ole Miss.
Speaker 4 (59:30):
No, let's be real. There was Ari Wasserman from on
three set of probably best. The ceiling at ole Miss
is the expectation at LSU. That's where you're gonna get
every single year. Dan, you and I both know this.
We know this because if it's just true, LSU sells
itself every single person that lives in the Sail Louisiana
that is a top tier recruit. They don't play for
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Lane Kiffin, They don't play for Less Miles, they don't
play for Nick Saban. They play for LSU. They dream
of going to play at LSU. They Lane Kiffen is
an elite responder that comes to the transfer portal. Lank
even is gonna have resources out the wazoo when it
comes to nil funds to be able to build this
mecha program back to the highest level that we know.
And the expectation is in four years you're supposed to
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win a national title. He can do all those things,
and you can't do that in a place like Ole Miss.
But the bottom line is that you can't be the
head coach at LSU and be coaching the ole Miss
Rebels in the playoff.
Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
Well, I mean, I think it's also too you know,
the formula is very simple at LSU. If you dominate
Southern Louisiana, you dominate that state and recruiting, then you're
gonna have a really good chance. And then look, I mean,
we know it here and I talked about it again
with Nate Griffin on Fox twenty six this morning. Is
LSU's formula is pretty simple. You know, own the in
state and then come over here to the Houston area
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and get tons of players to come and follow you
there to baton rouge and play there.
Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
And it's worked out numerous times in the past.
Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
So the other thing that you got to throw in
Dan is that this is a dude that is elite
at landing transfer portal players and the kid and here
was the thing that was like so brilliant about what
Lane was able to accomplish when he was at a
place like ole Miss. Every single player that transferred into
the Rebels program left better suited for the NFL. So
now you're gonna be able to go pick and choose
with elite names that never considered ole Miss because of
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the standard of what it is. And they want to
go play it in Georgia and they want to go
play it in Alabama, Well they're gonna look at LSU
in that exact same light.
Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Lane's gonna get them.
Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
He's gonna still develop them, he's still gonna have top
ten recruiting classes, and he's bringing over an offensive staff
that could be paired with the great defensive staff that
basically in the standpoint of a year, dude, they should
be very much right in the hunt for a college
football playoff bit. They should be in the hunt for
an SEC title bid. They should be in the conversation
to win a national championship. He has all the right
resources there, and he's shown you that he can win
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at the highest level with his mindset. Now, let's you
just gotta let Lane Kiffen be Lane Kiffin. That's part
of the job here. You can't say, oh, well, you
know we're making Lane change should be is as a person. Nope,
that's part of the reason why he was able to
be SU successful at Ole Miss. But if you let
Lane by Lane and you let LSU sell itself, dude,
they're gonna be right back in.
Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
The hunt for a national champion this time next season.
They should be. They really should.
Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
Well, I mean, and it's not gonna be for a
lack of effort either, because the money and the pursuit, well,
it pays off for LSU. And again, we're gonna talk
about this a lot more in about an hour and
a half when Matt Moscona from ESPN one oh four
to five and Louisiana Sports dot Net, they're in Louisiana
joins us to talk about this. But let's get back
into a little bit of Texans conversation, because could the
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Texans get some help from a friend they didn't even
know they had. We'll discuss that right here as we
continue on the Morning Drive with Danny Cole. Right here
on a Monday at Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
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lady to.
Speaker 13 (01:02:40):
Work at your command, mister Bonbee.
Speaker 5 (01:02:42):
That's right, Jess asks just my device to play Sports
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Speaker 7 (01:02:46):
I Heart Radio.
Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
The friend that the Texans didn't know that they have,
Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow able to take care of business
Thursday night against a team that right now is neck
and neck with you for a AFC the playoff, the
seeding and the Ravens. They beat them thirty two fourteen.
And now here's where he can become even more of
a friend. They're gonna be in Buffalo this weekend taking
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on the Bills. Yep, that's a team that's currently in
front of you, and that's a team that does look beatable.
Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
I mean we saw it here.
Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Texans played well enough to win and did win and
you're able to still be in position against Buffalo where
now you have the tiebreaker over them. This is something
that could really help. Like that's why watching that Steelers
game yesterday, you're like, come on, Steelers, like find a
way because by the way you went, you already took
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care of business. And the Steelers win that game yesterday.
Then you jump Buffalo and you're in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Right number seven seed right now, Yeah, Dallas is another friend.
I will agree with you right now since Night is
probably your best friend. Because if you want to be
able to say you have headhead wins over common opponents.
For a team that is not gonna go to the
playoff this year, they're probably gonna fire their coach, They're
probably gonna hit Re said on a lot of things.
Burl looked awesome in his first game back two hundred
and sixty one yards, beat the crap out of the
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secondary of Baltimore on Thanksgiving, had a really overall solid outing.
Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Has an opportunity to continue to help you on out.
You have to win. You had to do your part.
Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
But any way for you to gain any traction in
this race in the AFC playoff, you want to take
and partially with.
Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
That it's out of your control.
Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
Like surprisingly, let me ask you this, who's a better
friend in your opinion for the standpoint of the Texans
to win the division? Is it Jacksonville or is it Indianapolis.
I would say that it's probably Indianapolis. I because I
don't believe that they're going to get this back on track.
I think Daniel Jones the best that we saw out
of him. It's not going to continue and it's only
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going to be even more on the plate of Johnson Taylor.
Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
And I mean for Jacksonville, it's not necessarily like you
feel one hundred percent confident in them. You talked about
it earlier. I mean, he still got Trevor Lawrence over there,
and he's a guy that just has not been able
to live up to the expectations.
Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
That we thought he could live up to.
Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
Now, you cannot sell me on the idea that you
have a franchise quarterback that you trust in Trevor Lrrence.
Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
You just can't.
Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
And by the way, here's Indianapolis scheduled on the stretch.
Two games against Jacksonville, game against Seattle, game against San Francisco,
one more game against you guys. They could royally screw
it up for themselves and still beat Jacksonville twice.
Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Like that's what you need.
Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
So like, I'm in full agreeance that I think that
Houston right now, knowing that Nico Collins is a Colts killer,
he's basically taken the role of t Y Hilton in
this rivalry.
Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
He has now been able to take on over games.
Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
Knowing that your defense is elite when it plays at home,
you should be confident beating Indianapolis in week eighteen.
Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Just done. Deal.
Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
You need Indianapolis to be the killer of the Jaguars
and then let them let the pieces fall and play
to where they end up knocking themselves in.
Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
And here's where the Bengals can even help you out
even more as the following week they're going to take
on Baltimore in Cincinnati. And I mean, you know this
is a Bengals team that I threw it out on Twitter.
You know over the weekend too, that Joe Burrow could
be the ultimate what could have been guy? Like he
absolutely can't because when healthy, you see what you saw
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on Thursday night. But that's just the problem. He hasn't
been healthy for much of his career. You're talking about
just in general in the NFL. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't disagree with you. I still think he's gonna
have a sellar career. You know, he's twenty eight years old.
I mean twenty seven years old. He still has another
ten years if he wants to key playing. The problem
is that the injuries are starting to stockpile. You got
to invest properly when it comes to your offensive line.
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You're gonna lose some players eventually to free agency because
they're not all gonna want to resign with you.
Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
It's an organization that does not.
Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
Care a lot about its overall status in terms of
how much they spend, and they build around their quarterback.
It's why Carson Palmer said I would rather retire early
than ever play another down for this franchise. Like again,
that's just it. I don't disagree with you. Because of
when Burrow's on point, he is. This is why we
have the conversation every single year. Burrow, with the injuries,
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is still a top five quarterback in the NFL because
of when he's on point, he is a lead. He
could have been an MVP last year. Like, honestly, let's
be real, do you think he wins the MVP last year.
If Cincinnati makes the playoffs, probably I would say so.
I think that as much as Josh Allen had a
career year and he was phenomenal, the reason why he
won it over Lamar Jackson and the reason why I
won over Joe Burrow is because one team didn't make
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the playoff, one team has already won an MVP twice.
Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
The biggest reason too, why I think that he and
the Bengals are your best friend right now is because
that's a totally different football team with him out there. Yeah,
you saw a team the other night that if you're
a Bengals fan you're watching that, you're like, gosh, man,
Like if he had just missed half of this time,
we're probably a six win football team right now, and
we're very much in the thick of things in order
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to be able to make the playoffs. And they are
still technically considered to be in the hunt. But that's
a team that has to win out if that's gonna happen.
And I mean, you get two tough games in these
next ones, but then you get Miami, the Cardinals in
the Browns to finish things up, so it's not out
of the remal possibility they could go three, four and
one in these next few games. But I mean it
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is also too where it's just like, you still got
that defense over there, dude, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
It still makes me laugh every single time that we
see the end the hunt graphic and a four win
team that is actually worse than the Miami Dolphins is
in the hunt of Miami's out of it, dude.
Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
And that's the crazy thing is though, too, is that
the Dolphins aren't completely out of this. Like there's a
really real possibility that the Dolphins could finish with a
winning record this year. And all of a sudden, people
were saying, oh, Mike McDaniel, and he's dead man walking.
He's gone you already, you already can the general managers,
So that means that he's next. I mean, it's getting
to the point here where Steven Ross is gonna have
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to look at it and say, hey, you know, we
didn't have some things go our way, but is it
necessarily bad enough for us to have.
Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
To move off for this guy?
Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
Okay, well they're not moving off of to them, Like
there's not many to the two Dolphins fans that listen
to the shit. You're not moving off to a He's
gonna be back next season. You got to figure out
if Mike mcdale can work. Here are your last five games,
the Jets, the Steelers, the Bengals, the Bucks, the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
You can go zero and five in them. You can
go five and zer in them.
Speaker 4 (01:09:11):
For my opinion, because that last game against New England,
if they've already locked up the number one seed in
the AFC, they're resting starters, doesn't matter to them. They're
just gonna have They're gonna have an extra week to
prepare like that's it. So you could win that one.
You can get ahead ahead over Cincinnati. You're not wrong
that they're not out of the playoff race. I don't
think they're in it. I will say, how about Houston.
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In a lot of ways, Miami can because think about it,
you beat New England, you beat Bengals, you beat the Steelers,
two teams that could be in the playoff, you knock
them out, and maybe you put yourself in a position
to where if the Texans were to be the number
seven seed and just be the wild card team, what
if somehow, some way Miami loses to New England, and
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it opens up a door for Denver now to be
the number two seed. You saw the same game I
saw last night in overtime to take down a Marcus
Mariota led Washington Commander's team. You are not a legit
that to win the super Bowl this year. I don't
care that you're sitting at ten to two. You are
not a Super Bowl threat whatsoever out in Denver. I
feel very comfortable about Houston as a seven seed marching
on into Mile High and handling business against Bonex.
Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
Well, continue that Texans conversation at eight o'clock hour two.
Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
You want to jump in on it.
Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
seOne three two one two five seven ninety against someone
three two one two five seven ninety. Let's get into
a little bit of rockets because it feels like this
past week was the best of both worlds and it
played out that way yesterday. We will discuss right here
as we continue on the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole.
Right here, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (01:10:39):
Page Town Built Morning Drive continues. Now, now here's Dann
and Cole.
Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
Get in the rockets able to handle business yesterday afternoon
there and uh, you know, it was a nice little
Sunday for us around here, where it was pretty much
as soon as the uh the the Texans and Colt
scheme came to an end, then you were able to
flip it over to either US here on Sports Talk
seven ninety or the return of Craig and Ryan on
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Space City Home Network, because you had the two national
TV games with Peacock and ESPN last week, so.
Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
They were able to call it on the local side.
Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
But you go to Utah handle business there a strong
first quarter, strong second quarter. Really, there was no part
of that game yesterday that you watched and you were like, yeah, this,
you know, looks like it's a little bit of a struggle.
It was domination from the beginning and a huge part
of that due to the return of one Kevin Durant
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three of four from outside at the three, ten of
fourteen overall, twenty five points out of him in this win.
Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
Take a wine, take your star back, guess what you're
gonna go ahead and feel good about it. Being able
to beat up on a Utah team when you know
that they have family in the stands watching them. Just
get Molly Watt Bile meets I'm all for it.
Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
It was well, I mean, especially to you know, even
though it's it's a long way from the John Stockton,
Karl Malone, Jeff horniset years that there is never any
love loss for that organization. It's it's one of those like, no,
you're still there, You're still in Salt Lake City. We
still remember everything from you guys. So yeah, it's it's
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definitely a huge part of you know, these two organizations passed.
But Alprin shing Goon too out of him twenty seven points.
And you know, and I mentioned the best of both
worlds because well, you got Kevin Durant missing the first
two games last week where you're able to get a win,
and then you go to Golden State and you get
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that win where it was the Reach Shepherd game on
that Wednesday night where it looked like it was gonna
get away from the Rockets, and then Reach Shepherd and
company able to follow through and you hold on and
win that game. And you win both of those games
without Kevin Durant. So you're much better with him in
the fold. But at least, if nothing else, you've seen
functional depth built up by rafel Stone and this Rockets
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front office that if you do have to go a
game or two without him, you feel good.
Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
No, I mean you've won ten of your last eleven games.
On top of that, you've been able to see everyone
kind of step on up in different roles. Reach Shepherd's
been awesome offensively, He's added in more of a leadership
when it comes to being a point guard facilitator. You've
gotten good play from Amen Toms at times. He's gotten
really good play from Jabarsmith at times. And then in
the game against one of the worst teams in the NBA,
your two stars show on up.
Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (01:13:32):
I would love to be able to say that for
the Rocket standpoint, you need them to show on up
in the games against Denver, in the games against Golden State.
But I'll tell you, dude, you'll take ten times out
of ten a Reach Shepherd dominant performance against Golden State
when you're guving to go toe to toe against Steph
Curry and then have your stars go ahead and give
you a points when you need them to go ahead
and deliver in a game that is already going to
be an easy win, and it's an easier win because
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of Alfred Shingun is awesome, Katie is awesome, and you
know what you didn't have the best knight from from
Ree Shepherd, It's okay because you had other people step
on up. J Bari Smith dropped fifteen. You had a
decent game overall defensively from Amen Thompson, he had nine
assists on the night. Stephen Adams had thirteen points, y'all
said twelve rebounds overall. Again, I'll take this as as
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a quality win no matter how you get, how you
phrase it.
Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
And I mean, you know you've seen a guy like Shepherd.
Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
I mean we talked about the Golden State game where
I mean he just he went off in that game,
and you're just like, it is nice to see the
confidence at both ends of the floor out of this guy,
because that's what you've been getting. I mean, you've been
getting him being able to be sure of his shots,
creating shots for himself. And I mean there's no longer
any sort of hesitancy out of him, where you know,
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you thought that he was a guy that was just
kind of trying to find his legs underneath him last
year and now this year, I mean so much that
you know, he's been trusted so much that you've put
him into the starting lineup in the last three games
has worked out incredibly well. And you mentioned it yesterday.
Nine points out of him but still four of eight
from the field.
Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
To see that, what's the score and the night going
to be one fifty five to eighty six?
Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Is that what you're helping for? Here's the interesting thing
that I mean, you know, you wonder with Durant being out.
I mean I think that most times for back to backs,
we're going to see him rest either one of those nights.
But I think tonight probably the fact that he didn't
have to travel anywhere. You're staying right there in Utah.
You go right back, so he'll be back out there.
But yeah, I mean this is a Utah team that's
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not great. Six and thirteen on the season. They suck
at home, they're five and six well, and I mean
it's also a team that you have to believe is
soon enough going to be you know, try to unload.
I mean, you've got guys like George's Nyang. Did you
even know that Kevin Love.
Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Is on the Utah I found that out midway through
the second. I just found that out right now. You
didn't even play last night? No, Yeah, he dmped for
I saw him on the bench. I'm like, that's that's
Kevin Love. He's still in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
Well, he's still in the NBA, but also too like
where you're just like, wait a minute, he's he's there,
like that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
But no, I mean, you know you're probably going.
Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
To see the Jazz start unloading guys, and Lori Markinen
is one of those guys that's gonna get a lot
of interest from people. I mean, Kylie Anderson another guy.
I mean, they do have players that that I think
will draw interest. But I mean to the point that
we've brought up here, Cole is you play against a
bad team, handle a bad team like they're a bad team.
Speaker 4 (01:16:23):
You're supposed to beat the crap out of this team,
and you're all supposed to have multiple players on this
team be able to show on up like tonight's one
of those games where, hey, Bar, you had appen Chain Gooding,
yet Kevin Durant be able to deliver in a critical
moment yesterday to be able to guarantee a double digit
dismantling type of performance. Now, I want to see Reach
Shepherd do it. I want Seach bar Smith do it.
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I want to see you a good night from Am
and Thompson. You get one, You get one good game
from your two elite stars against a crappy team that
lives out in Salt Lake City that's looking to trade
away some assets. You got to have your backups, and
you got to have your rotational guys have a bigger
role today.
Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
I mean, and you know, what's some of the stuff
that we'd heard from people too. After Fred got hurt. Oh,
you know, no point guard, it's going to be hard.
But he made a dooka finally said all right, fine,
I'll throw you a point guard out there, and I'll
throw you a guy that not only can create for others,
we can create for himself too.
Speaker 4 (01:17:16):
And that's been a difference. How to read Shepherd, No
read Shepherd again. Last night had a really good game
when it came to being a facilitator. He's also gotten
better defensively. He had six rebounds last night. Was playing
a little bit pesky and side the paint held held
Ace Bailey the nineteen points. They didn't let anything really
happen outside of a couple of big time shots from
Lori Markinen the bench and Kyle phillip Kowski was like
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their leading.
Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
Scorer with twelve.
Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
I mean, like again, this is a game plan to
where you had everyone kind of be playing on the
right cylinders. On top of that, you once to get
tired Star Silver. That's what you can ask for.
Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
Absolutely. It is seven one three, two one two five.
Seven ninety is the number to get in on the
phone lines. You know the rules around here. If we've
touched on it, well then you can weigh in on it.
And I know that Ray wants to weigh in on
something that we've talked about, so we'll get him. I'm
involved also too when we get back in to the
Texans conversation, because they found a way. But is it
going to be good enough? We'll discuss as we continue
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And that's exactly where Ray in Montana wants to go
to get a started here in the eight o'clock hour, Ray,
good morning, how you doing, Hey.
Speaker 8 (01:18:50):
Guys, I'm just I'm doing well. Had a good Thanksgiving.
I hope you did too.
Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (01:18:58):
I called I guess about a month ago. At come up,
Why don't Ole miss just.
Speaker 7 (01:19:02):
Fire this guy?
Speaker 8 (01:19:04):
I hope this is a lesson to college sports in general,
because Sasenagel did the same thing to A and M.
The moment that this stuff comes out, he Lane Kiffin
had already made up his mind a month ago. If
it came out, he's made up his mind. Just get
rid of him, Fire.
Speaker 7 (01:19:23):
Him right away.
Speaker 8 (01:19:25):
They didn't need need him for Mississippi State. I mean,
but start preparing for the playoffs. I mean, good lord,
I mean, so that's my opinion. I'm sure you guys
don't agree.
Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
With me, but not even a little bit completely awesome,
not even a little bit.
Speaker 8 (01:19:42):
Okay, that's fine. That's why we live in America. So uh,
thanks for your time, guys.
Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (01:19:50):
Ray.
Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
I mean, it's a little bit of a slippery slope there,
because let's just take Steve Starkesian for example, with the
Diana Russini reports, where it was he's looking at the
NFL and he's got interest in the Tennessee Titans, and
he not only once but then also to Desmond Howard
the same deal there. Yeah, where you can have coaches
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that an ad is coming at him, and let's just
say to Ray's point that that's even on the table,
then you've got not only a legal but also a
professional battle there on your hands, where you're like, I
didn't say any of these things. I did none of
these things. You're you're you're possibly moving on from me
over innu window alone. Yeah, like that's that's the only
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reason that you're doing this. So that's again the slippery
slope that you get into on that, because i mean, look,
it's it's pretty simple at this point. When Keith Carter
released that statement at ole Miss that Lane Kiffin's future
status with ole Miss will be determined Friday after Saturday
after we play the Egg.
Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
Bowl, No, it was determined that afternoon. Well, and that's
exactly it, because if he's staying, then he stays. I mean,
it's it's really that simple.
Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
And here's the other thing that I'm going to actually
push back on with a lot of people about Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Oh, this is what he does.
Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
If this is quote what he does, he'd be the
head coach at Auburn right now, he would have taken
that job two years ago.
Speaker 4 (01:21:08):
But at the same time, when he was flirting with
the Auburn job, what happened. They crumbled down the stretch.
They were seven to one at the start of the season.
They lost for their last five games, including the bowl
game in the Texas Bowl, right here to Texas Deck
and everything went off the reels.
Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Three years ago, it was clear as day. Here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (01:21:27):
You're firing Lane Kiffin because if he's flirting around with
another job, he is flirting around behind your back. He's
cheating on you with the prettier chicks in the grands
game of things. Bottom line, you're firing him. You had
to pay him now. You had to pay him because
of you have a non just cause onto why he
was fired, and you're giving him an opportunity to go
coach for another team while he's getting paid by you,
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because he wants to go ahead and pursue other options.
On top of all that, you're not guaranteed to win
against the Mississippi State because you don't know what Peak
Goling's going to be as a play caller. You don't
know if Charlie wise Junior is staying on your staff.
You don't know which offensive coaches are leading. And let's
go a step further. You have the game against Florida
before that, So the game against Florida you had to
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come back in the second half. That is what Lane
Kifven teams do. That's not what Peke Golding teams do.
We don't know if that's gonna happen. So Ole Miss
can't fire their coach because if he wants to look
at other teams as potentially better fits for him, because
if then it hurts you for an opportunity to make
a run of the playoff in your best season possible,
you let them finish out the year. No problem with that,
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But you set in the dendum Saturday morning.
Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
We need an answer. Do you believe that you are
going to be the head coach at Ole Miss?
Speaker 13 (01:22:40):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:22:40):
Okay, best of luck, happy trails, don't let the door
hit you on the way out. We'll go to the
playoff without you. You either locked him with being with
us or you're locked in being with another program. But
we're not letting you have your cake.
Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
You need it too.
Speaker 4 (01:22:52):
This is the problem that I happen with people when
they're saying, oh, well, Lane Kiffin, I don't feel bad.
And one second that Lang Kiven is not coaching in
the playoff. You made your bed, you lie in it.
You get paid a lot of money to go ahead
and be the head coach somewhere. You get paid a
lot of money to go ahead and lead a program
that now you were going to be playing against your
former team every single Saturday.
Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
And he even said it too that I mean, he
gets it, he understands, and I mean in this case
right here, I think anybody would be a fool to
think that Ole miss would say, oh yeah, hey you're
going to our hated rival, go ahead and stick around
here and you know, continue to gather even more information
that you can use against us down the road. No,
I mean they did what they knew they needed to
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do in this scenario. And to your point too, I
mean that's something that our guests coming up at nine o'clock,
Matt Moscona, had been talking about, is you know you
fire him exactly what you said the financial part of it.
Then Lane Kiffin and Jimmy Sexton can come back and say, hey,
you fired us, So that means that you're on the
hook to pay us the buyout from this.
Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
Where's he going right now? He's going to LSU?
Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
Who did they just fire Brian Kelly?
Speaker 7 (01:23:52):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
What did they do?
Speaker 13 (01:23:54):
Well?
Speaker 4 (01:23:54):
They fired him without just cause. Legal ramifications got involved,
lawyers got involved. We had multiple conversations with the Athletic
Department and what was the determining factor? We fired you
because we don't like you and we want this problem
to go away. Great, pay me fifty four million dollars
because of that is what you were promised to.
Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
I had no cause.
Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
Do you see a nice little Wednesday five o'clock news
dump right there where they were like.
Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
Well, we'll go ahead and just pay you the buy out? Yeah,
they had to.
Speaker 4 (01:24:17):
You weren't winning that, And then like again a place
like O, here's the difference, And this is where again
we can go ahead and have bygones. Be bygones about
what you think of either program seven seven nine if
you want tim on it on this conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
For me, LSU has money to spend.
Speaker 4 (01:24:32):
LSU said it clear as day, we are going to
pay fifty four million dollars and not break a sweat
to get rid of the problem that was Brian Kelly
and fixed our mistake by hiring Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
You don't have that at all, miss You don't.
Speaker 4 (01:24:46):
So when you fire a coach like Lane Kiffin, who
you know for e fact has an agent that is
basically puppeteering all of these coaching searches behind closed doors
and getting his clients paid by other schools just for
flirting with an other team, you think for one second
he's gonna say, oh, well, you know you built up
all this good equity and we were able to get
ten wins.
Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
We're gonna let you go go be our rival now
at LSU. Hey, but we don't have to worry about
what we get to pay you.
Speaker 4 (01:25:13):
No, lank Kiffn's going for the jugular and saying, you
don't let me finish my season, pay me my money,
and I'll leave and kick your ass in the process.
Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
Well, and then you know, with Kelly on that, I
think more than anything that LSU was looking at was
all right, fine, you want to take this to trial,
and you want to go through a trial here in
this state against us, in this state, it's not gonna
go well for you.
Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
It ended up going pretty well for Brian Kelly though.
Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
No, that absolutely did because I mean, you know, played
the legal game right there, and then eventually they just said,
all right, we'll just pay it the fifty.
Speaker 4 (01:25:40):
We're we're just gonna wipe away the problem with the
headache that is this, that's what we're gonna do again.
I have nothing against Lank Kiffin. You make your bed,
You're totally allowed to go ahead to make this decision.
I agree with multiple people out there, and I've told
you this, I told many other people this. When run properly,
I think LSU is the best job in America in
college football.
Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
And it's not particularly close.
Speaker 4 (01:26:01):
Yes, Texas has an argument, Yes, Alabama, Yes, Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
I think it's LSU.
Speaker 4 (01:26:06):
You don't get to be the head coach at the
LSU Tigers coaching the almost rebels in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
I think the differences though, between like a couple of
the other programs you mentioned, Texas being one of them,
is the difference with LSU is they have almost free
rain in that state. When it comes to the talent,
you show enough interest in a kid, they're more than
likely gonna want to come play for you. Now, I
know that Nick Saban had a little bit of a
pipeline in there, for a while of even getting guys
right there in Baton Rouge just say yeah, I think
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Tuscaloosis sounds better than Baton Rouge does. But for the
most part, you're pretty much free rein right there in
that regard, Whereas Texas, Florida, some of these other programs
that are in states that have a lot of other
hands that are trying to get some slices of that pie.
Then the talent poll, even though it's vast, I mean,
you still got others that you're having to compete with
in that regard.
Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
It's not as much for LSU.
Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
It's for them, it's focus on Southern Louisiana and then
build out from there. Whereas for Texas, it's hey, when
Houston win, Dallas wins, Central Texas right here, and that's
how we're able to build our program and go outside
for some you know, a few other parts.
Speaker 4 (01:27:07):
Now, the good news is when you have a guy
like Ce Sarcasian who has ties everywhere in the state
because of what he did out in California and when
he did out in Washington and Alabama, and just the
brand of Texas itself. It sells the identity of being
able to say listen, we can go pick and choose
who we want to come here and they're going to
be a part of our staff.
Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
But LSU does the same thing.
Speaker 4 (01:27:25):
The difference is is that in the state of Texas,
you're going toe to toe with Texas A and M.
You are going to tote with LSU. You're going to
tote with Alabama. You're going to to toe with Georgia.
You're going up against TCU that has Oklahoma. Oklahoma has money.
You can throw Baylor in there, that has money, the
University of Houston. I'm telling you, if they can get
together when it comes to the nil collective what Willie
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Fritz was able to accomplish this year, they're going to
be a team that could be a threat in the
Big twelve for years on end. When it's LSU, it's
your losing because if you're not recruiting the right players
in the state, that's it. Because every single kid, they
don't dream of playing for the Warhawks, Dan. They're not
saying I hope to one day suit up for the
Rageing Cagents.
Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
They settle for that. They want to play in Death
Valley on a Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (01:28:08):
Well, I mean, and you know, Texas Tech, I think
is another team you got to throw in there. They're
able to killing it to do this season. So I mean,
you know, you got money and you got enough of
a stage. Kids will come there and play, and they
proved it this last year at Texas Tech.
Speaker 4 (01:28:23):
I want to move off this because if there are
Texans conversation, there's other things with the Rockets. We got
Astro's conversation, guy that's signed over the weekend that thank
god he's not coming to Houston.
Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
But I want to get your opinion.
Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
If you're the college Football Playoff committee, are you penalizing
Ole Miss for losing link?
Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
If no, it's not their fault. Thanks, it's not their fault.
I mean you still got the same team. I mean
the head coach not being there. I understand that it
probably is going to be a hey, what does this
look like without him? But at the same time, though, too,
I think it's you know, a far cry from what
we saw a couple of years ago when Florida State
got left out.
Speaker 4 (01:28:56):
Here's the thing about the Florida State argument that bothers
the crap out of me. Let me ask you, Florida
State when they got left out, they were thirteen and oh,
how many teams were in the college football playoff four?
How many teams are in the playoff now twelve? They
would have not been left out if it was a
twelve team playoff. They would have been the five seed,
maybe the sixth seed, but they would have had their
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shot in the playoff if this was a four team playoff.
I can completely understand. You don't have Lane Kiffin, you
have one loss. You're not playing in the conference championship.
Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
Best of luck. Sorry, bro, you're not going.
Speaker 4 (01:29:29):
But in a twelve team playoff model, you can't sit
here and say that Florida State and ole Miss are
the exact same combination because ole Miss is eleven to one,
Florida State was thirteen and oh. Both would have been
in the playoff in a twelve team format model. So
I hate that narrative. You did your job, You won
the games you were supposed to. You should not be
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penalized because number one, none of the players have left
the roster. They're staying by because they want to be
a part of ole Miss's run in the playoff. And
number two, you were able to hire a coach internally,
was a part of your staff the entire year. That
got to a loved and one. It's not an interim
guy that's just taken on over for the next few weeks.
Pete going's running the show moving forward. So they solved
that problem and said, this is our guy, this is
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our team, same culture, Saint Mantra.
Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
It's Cole just alluded to right there, the Texans conversation
is going to be hot, and have you here in
the eight o'clock hour you want to get in on it.
Sebone three two on two five seven ninety against someone
three two on two five seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
Of the Texans turned this trend in their favor.
Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
Recent evidence would say, yes, we'll discuss right here as
we continue here on a Monday, It's the Morning Drive
with Dan and Cole.
Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (01:30:39):
Dan Matthews, Cole Thompson, this is the Morning Drive with
Dan and Cole.
Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
You had to come back from nineteen down in the
fourth quarter and you find a way to beat the
Jacksonville Jaguars, and the following week it was ugly, but
again you found a way against a very bad Tennessee
Titans team. But when it comes down to it, people
only asked did you win or did you lose and
the Texans won that game, so all is well?
Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
That ends well with that one.
Speaker 3 (01:31:09):
And then of course the Buffalo game week before you
win it by four, and in the one yesterday twenty
to sixteen over the Colts, and now a advantage of
the Colts in the head to head even though there's
still a game better than you in the overall record.
Speaker 4 (01:31:24):
You should be sitting at eight and four. I'm sorry,
and I get it. Congratulations again. You find a way
to win, You find a way to be able to
deliver defensively. Wasn't your best performance still good enough to
beat job and Taylor? Still good enough to be Indianapolis
that was reeling at the right time. I'm still on
over that Denver game. I'm still not over it, dude.
Speaker 3 (01:31:43):
The Denver one, I mean the Jacksonville, I mean any
of those, you know, first four losses, because the only
one that you could really look at their five losses
this year and say you weren't in that game. I mean,
I understand it was one score when it was all
said and done against Seattle, but Seattle dominated, so you had.
Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
One good play and it was the sack by the
track in the end zone. By Will Anderson.
Speaker 3 (01:32:06):
Right, So, I mean, you know, you get the loss
to the Rams and you come out of that saying, damn,
you should have won that one. Same deal the following
the week against Tampa Bay, and then of course, you
know the game against Jacksonville. We've we've gone through all
of those, and yeah, the Denver one, like, that's a
team that, honestly, like even watching them last night against
Washington was just like like how are they doing this?
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Like like how how are they able to continue doing this?
And by the way, they're on a nine game win
streak and they've trailed in every single one of those games,
including the one that you let slip away here against them.
Speaker 4 (01:32:38):
It's ridiculous. I mean it quite literally is. But somehow,
some way they're able to respond. And there's no other
way to put it. They're just getting by. It's you
know what it is, Dan, It's worst version of Houston football.
Because of in Houston, you're able to build a lead
and you're holding out hope and your defense is getting
enough critical stops. You're having to fight your way back
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in against inferior teams to get wins, and you're just
doing it off offensively with Bonix.
Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
Well, and that's the thing too with the you know,
the Texans being able to these last four games pull
them off the way that they have is I mean,
it's a toning fir previous sins because I mean that
was the issue early on this season, and you even
saw it a little bit last year too, where you
were coming off a surprise first season with Damiko Ryans
and CJ.
Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Shroud where they won a lot of one score games.
Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
They won a lot of close games, either coming from
behind or holding on whatever way it was they were
able to do that. I think the other thing is too,
that gives you hope for this Texans team is getting
better as the season goes along, because again, you lost
those games the way you did early on this season.
Now you're winning those games. That's a sign of an
improving football team. They're doing things that you really like.
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I think on both sides.
Speaker 4 (01:33:50):
The ball number one, you get in your defense to
come up with critical plays at the right time. I
mean again, fourth down stop got to have moment Derek
Singley Junior with a good pass breakup, you're able to
close things on out with the nice Woody Marks run.
Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
This was not one of those games. So where again
I'm gonna put the pressure on CJ.
Speaker 4 (01:34:04):
Stroud like and I think that US is Texans fans
and us that you know live in the city and
want to see Houston be right back in the conversation
as a legit playoff threat. We can also have this
be a kind of come to reality moment. Your quarterback
hadn't played in a month and he still was able
to throw for two hundred and sixty eight yards, lead
three scoring four scoring drives, gets during the red zone twice,
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and you finish off the drives with touchdowns. It's not
a great performance. You're gonna need to be better if
you're CJ. When you go next week into Arrowhead. You're
gonna have to be better when you face off against
teams like Las Vegas and Arizona because you can't have
all this good momentum and find a way to shoot
yourself in the foot down the stretch. But you'll take
that type of game because of it was the first
moment back since coming and playing in Houston.
Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
You mentioned Derek Stanley Junior, the silent assass in this season,
so yesterday he did not allow a single reception and
his only target across twenty eight coverage snaps against the
Colts yesterday. He has four games this season of under
ten yards allowed. Quinnon Mitchell is the only other one
with four. Patrick certain has three.
Speaker 6 (01:35:10):
A J.
Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
Terrell has three, and Lenore with the forty nine ers
has three.
Speaker 4 (01:35:17):
He's been elite, I mean almost funny is we talk
about him of having a underwhelming season in our standard
because we saw him have an all Pro year last year.
He still is playing at a Pro Bowl level. He
still is arguably a top five cornerback in the NFL.
I just think that when we're looking at this perspective
the cornerback, I'm paying more attention to his Kamara Laster
for both good and bad reasons. Yesterday was a bad reason.
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He gave up that big touchdown pass to Alec Pierce.
You go up being the right place at the right time,
and coverage you lock Kylen Bullock to work your way
over the top, you're able to go ahead and get
a critical stop. Maybe you force that in completion. Now
this is a game to where you're winning by seven.
Just little things like that go a long way. But
Secondary has been playing elite, I mean all year, and
when you needed they gotta have moment from Derek Sleay junior.
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You got it, and like let's just call it as is.
That is a play to where it they connect, they
probably gain all the momentum. And it's just the exact
same thing that we saw against Indiana against Jacksonville in
Week three. Momentum leaves your sideline because of one critical
error and it goes in favor of a division rival.
They win the football game, they put themselves in a
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bad position. I guarantee you if somehow, some way Houston
didn't get that stop, Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
Wins, well, I mean and that's again where you know,
atoning for bad things that happened early on this season.
That was the make good for the first Shacksonville loss
because you didn't play well, but you played well enough
to be able to find a way to win. And
in you know, this part of the season, it's it's
especially the case where there's no style points. I don't
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I don't have to you know, impress the committee. I
don't have to do any of those things. I just
got to win and continue to win to give yourself
a chance to be able to make it into the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (01:36:56):
I can also appreciate that, even though the defense didn't
have it's stellar performances, were so accustomed to seeing where
they're getting fifty, they're getting eight sacks, they're winning with
three turnovers. They did the job they had to do,
which is case in point. Make Jonathan Taylor be a mobile.
We've seen it this season when you slow down running backs.
You did it for the most part. I think with
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James Cook two. If James Cook and Jonathan Taylor hit
over one hundred yards ninety percent of the time Buffalo
and Indianapolis wins, Jonathan Taylor held to eighty five yards
twenty one carries out of the end zone. You said,
if we're gonna lose this game, Daniel Jones are gonna
have to beat us. He had one sack by Sheldon Rankins,
but you also had two critical fourth down stops. You
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also were able to only give up fourteen points.
Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
Well, the good news is this week, too, is you
get a little bit of a respite when it comes
to the really good running backs that you have to
go up against. Because I mean that was the case.
Buffalo talked about it all throughout that week. The wild
card in that one was James Cook. You allow him
to get going, then you're gonna be in for a
rough night.
Speaker 6 (01:37:57):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:37:57):
A few weeks ago against San Francisco, I mean you
were able to completely limit Christian McCaffrey, and for the
most part, you did it again yesterday. You're not gonna
go into this game against Kansas City scene oh Man
Pachecko and Kareem Hunt. Got to stop those guys because
I don't necessarily think that you have to worry as
much about those guys. It's all about fifteen.
Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
Now and again.
Speaker 4 (01:38:17):
He also had a really good performance once from Nico Collins.
He's become a Colts killer. He basically has taken on
over as the new t Y Hilton in this rivalry
over the last few years, four straight games with over
one hundred total yards of scrimmage and a touchdown. Found
his way in with the seven yard scrint. I thought
it was really smart play by Nick Kaylee, Like he
caught everyone off guard. He made sure that lou rm
Moro was kind of playing toward the line of scrimmage.
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Guess what happened. You're working away at the outside. Cameraman
even misses the shot. You're into the end zone. The
countless booze coming from Lucas Oil Stadium. Guys get over it,
like you can't stop number twelve. They force fed twelve
and they said, we're gonna use our best asset to
kick your keyster. We're gonna find a way to win.
Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:38:55):
We had that earlier where you get the booze after
the reverse to Nico Collins. I think that was more
because I mean you had that third down pass interference,
which you go back and look at it and you're like,
Texans probably got away with one right there.
Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
But again, I mean, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
Mentioned Chris Simms talking about the pass interference on I
can't remember who it was on for the Texans. That's
set up the first touchdown or the second touchdown for Indianapolis,
where Chris Sims is like the hot dog vendor has
a better chance of catching that football. Like his whole
point was, can we have a little bit of common
sense when it comes to pass interferences, because there was
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a time where we would have past interferences and then
they'd have a discussion.
Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
They're like, that ball wasn't catchable, all right, let's pick
it up.
Speaker 4 (01:39:40):
Well, the thing is is that right now you don't
know what is a catch and you don't know what
is a pass interference called? Because at the same time,
if you're going for like the way that we talk about,
how all it takes is a cornerback to be turned
slightly inward. Well, now that they're not giving an advantage
point to a wide receiver despite the ball being four
yards down the field, well because of his back was
slightly No, we're gonna go ahead and just wait, We're
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gonna give them the fifteen yards. Like, if it's an
uncatchable ball, it's an uncatchable ball.
Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
Just call it as is, guys.
Speaker 4 (01:40:07):
Now, I will say again, Houston still was the more
palaized team and they had the self afflicting moons when
it came to the offensive line, multiple fall starts, multiple
and eligible receiver downfield, multiple legal formations. It's it's just
something that you're gonna have to live with, I think,
for the rest of the year because it's not changing.
Speaker 2 (01:40:24):
This is what you are as a team.
Speaker 4 (01:40:25):
Like it's there comes a point in the season where
you're like, this is what we can expect to finally see,
how guys, it's.
Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
Week fourteen, it's the start of December.
Speaker 4 (01:40:34):
This is who you are this is your Ideaeddy, you
can run the football somewhat efficiently, you gotta get the
ball in at twelve's hands. You gotta deal with penalties
that are gonna set you back from a second and
five to a second intent.
Speaker 3 (01:40:44):
I don't think I've ever seen multiple illegal formations or
ineligible man downfields.
Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
And the Texans have done it twice in the last
three weeks. Twice.
Speaker 4 (01:40:55):
They're gonna do it again the next week against an
against Kansas City. The question is will it be enough
to be a reason why you're on a field goal
range or you out of the red zone. I will
say this, dude, it so worries me about the red
zone offense. Like you finally were able to capitalize for
the first time efficiently against a really good team that's
at the red zone.
Speaker 2 (01:41:14):
I still worry about that red zone.
Speaker 3 (01:41:16):
That was my favorite thing about you know, Blake Fisher
getting it. I'm like, that is your job, Like you.
Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
Not only want to know the job you do.
Speaker 3 (01:41:24):
You're not catching the football, Like I'm sure that maybe
they have one in there that you know, later in
the season we might see them try kind of like
we just saw with Tampa Bay yes day.
Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
With Tristan Wirfs like that's that's what he hopes for.
Speaker 3 (01:41:37):
But especially if you're not in the red zone or
right on the goal line, guess what it ain't coming
to yet?
Speaker 2 (01:41:42):
Well, who would you actually put out there?
Speaker 4 (01:41:44):
And said, I would say Titus Howard, Like, if I'm
actually trusting an offensive lineman to make a make a catch,
I think Tyas Howard's the dude.
Speaker 3 (01:41:51):
Yeah, he's probably got the most athleticism. I mean, especially
given his past. I mean, you know, maybe that's the case.
Number seventy one is eligible. I say, do you make
seventy one eligib or do you make or do you
make seventy one else? Do you make seventy one eligible?
But do you move into the outside or do you
say inside?
Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
Then now the outside?
Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
That would be something kind of interesting, kind of like
we saw like Alabama do against Georgia earlier this year. Yeah, yeah, well,
nice little screen, nice little offensive tackle screen.
Speaker 4 (01:42:17):
Dude, I'm all for it. Like I again, my favorite
let's go Nick Kaly, let's get let's get a little
froggy here. My favorite thing in football is a fat
man touchdown. I will always appreciate that. I will always
appreciate that and a safety are like seeing a unicorn
on the football field.
Speaker 3 (01:42:31):
Yeah, I love you know, need love too. That's how
the saying goes, all right. Another saying that goes is
a magic number for the Texans. They hit it yesterday
and when they do, it's good. We'll discuss right here
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Speaker 6 (01:44:19):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
I think you're in agreement with me on this that
it's a magic number for the Texans. You hit at
least twenty, you're winning the football game.
Speaker 4 (01:44:28):
Yeah, I would say at this point, knowing how well
your defense is, knowing how well you're able to force turnovers,
the ability to be able to win when it comes
to sack rates, great stops in the fourth quarter, there's
a trust factor in what Dimigo Ryans is running.
Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
Yeah, you give me twenty I think you win.
Speaker 3 (01:44:47):
Out of the seven wins you have this season, only
one of them was a win where you scored less
than twenty points.
Speaker 2 (01:44:54):
That was the Titans.
Speaker 3 (01:44:55):
Of course, the walkoff field goal to be able to
get that. But you scored twenty six against Tennessee, forty
four against Baltimore, twenty six against San Francisco, thirty six
against Jacksonville, which, of course you know the six more
in that was the interception, the pick six returned by
Sheldon Rankins. But twenty three and then twenty where. I mean,
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that's just how good this defense is this season that
they look at your offense and say, hey, can you
guys get into the end zone a couple of times
and then stall out a couple of more times and
have Kayemi Fairbaron go out there and kick a couple
of field goals like that really doesn't seem like that's
a ton to ask. And I mean that's a team
that you can look at and say, man, if you
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just give us just a little bit more offensively, then
we're not losing another game this season.
Speaker 4 (01:45:43):
Do me a favor you're saying that twenty is the
magic number to win. That means two touchdowns, two field goals.
Turn one of those field goals into a touchdown drive.
That's twenty four. You will not lose another game the
rest of the year. If you're able to turn one
Kaymi fairbaron field goal into a Woody Marks five yard
run in the red zone, a Jalen Nole fifteen yard
touchdown reception, a Christian Kirk five yard slam, a Dalton
(01:46:07):
Schultz ten yard post, any one of those things one.
Speaker 2 (01:46:12):
You will go undefeated the rest of the year.
Speaker 4 (01:46:13):
You will beat Kansas City, you will beat Arizona, you
will beat Las Vegas. You will kick the crap out
of out of LA You will beat Indianapolis at home.
You will go five and o to end the year.
You will finish the season twelve and five.
Speaker 2 (01:46:28):
Twelve and five too.
Speaker 3 (01:46:28):
I mean, you'd have to wonder if that's gonna be
good enough to get you home field for not only
the wild card round, but then also for around that
you've never won in and you've never played on your
home field. And that's one of those things too, that
will Anderson Junior. I remember it last year when they
were doing Black Bag Day. That's where you know you
do the locker clean outs where you get those huge
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industrial size black trash bags.
Speaker 2 (01:46:51):
Yeah, exit for guys to start cleaning things out.
Speaker 3 (01:46:54):
And Will Anderson Junior said, I think the you know,
the charge for us is we got to find a
way to play that next game back here at home,
because he's like, we've seen what this atmosphere is like
for the wild card. If we're able to get it
in the Visional round, well then we're going to the
AFC Championship game.
Speaker 4 (01:47:09):
They can You're going up to Kansas City next week.
It's a top ten scoring offense. But Dan, again, I
think that you're gonna have to turn one of those
field goals into a touchdown. Kana City's averaging twenty five
point four points a game not sound a lot defensively,
Houston giving up sixteen point four points per game. Meet
in the middle probably twenty one. You're gonna need to
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get at least to twenty one, I think in this
matchup against Kma City.
Speaker 3 (01:47:32):
Well, and it's also too I mean, you know to
the optimistic point you bring up there, I mean that's
where the pessimist to meet comes out. Because again, first
drive of the game yesterday, you're looking good, you're moving
the ball, and there was at least that feeling in
the back of your mind.
Speaker 2 (01:47:46):
I know it was for me.
Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
This is gonna end at a field goal, isn't it?
More often than not, I feel like that the drive
is going to end with Kayimi Fairbarn coming out there,
and it's gonna be maybe for less, maybe more, but
it ain't gonna be for one.
Speaker 2 (01:47:59):
It's gonna be for three.
Speaker 4 (01:48:00):
Can I ask you, out of curiosity, do you ever
get the intuition that the Texans are playing for the
tie instead of going for the win.
Speaker 3 (01:48:08):
I think that probably the intuition is to go a
little bit more conservative offensively because of how good your
defense is. So wherever that fits in the scenario that
you just laid out, that's my answer.
Speaker 4 (01:48:19):
Like I see them more often than not being content
getting a Kaymi fair bearing three pointer than trying to
go for the juggler and get the six.
Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
Well, I mean, that's what it feels like.
Speaker 3 (01:48:28):
I mean, I think in a way you kind of
saw that play out at the end of the half
where it was let's not give them the football back,
but let's also too. I mean, if we go into
the half up by four, we feel just fine about that.
Whereas if you are a little bit more aggressive, you
maybe take a shot or two more down the field
and give yourself an opportunity to go into the break
up seven, as opposed to where you went in there
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with timeouts still left in your back pocket.
Speaker 2 (01:48:52):
I just wish that they would have had a better
game plan.
Speaker 4 (01:48:54):
Like the part where I'm going to argue about the Texans,
I'll take a B minus performance from the over offensive identity.
I'll take a B minus performance from the defense. It
was a deep performance from coaching, and partially it comes
down to that last drive before halftime. You can't sell
me on the idea of you wanting to be an
aggressive team that feels like it can control its pathway
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to the postseason when.
Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
You're settling for oh, well, we're.
Speaker 4 (01:49:21):
Getting the ball after the half anyway. So we just
didn't want to go ahead and put the ball in
harm's way. Like be aggressive when it comes to your
play designs, have an identity when it comes.
Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
To what you want to do.
Speaker 4 (01:49:32):
The problem was nobody ever had a good intuition on
what was the idea of that last drive, you asked
Dimika Ryans, Oh, well, you know what, you know, we
just don't want to get the football over because we're
getting in the second half. JJ Watts on the broadcast, guys,
tempo time out. Why are you letting forty seconds be
burnt off the clock? Why are you straddling to the line.
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Why are you treating this willy nilly? Why are you
just going on up and going through the motions? Like
when you have a former Texan and a former three
time Defensive Player of the Year that knows what it's
like to have the all time winning a season here
and seeing the success of this defense be wasted by
your offense. Just going through the motions that could give
you a pretty good sign of you have no idea
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what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
And that's the frustrating part.
Speaker 4 (01:50:19):
And that's where again, when you come into these matchups
like against Kansas City and against Los Angeles and against Indianapolis,
I'm sorry, there's a reason why there is still some
self doubt in this organization. And there should be because
the plays like that, Drives like that are backbusters and
their killer for momentum.
Speaker 3 (01:50:37):
To believe that you've made any changes, well, I mean,
it's just also too where I think it comes down
to a couple of things. With Demiko, he trusts his
defense more and he also wants to protect his defense.
And I think that's why you see a lot of
second halfs called the way that they are is for
that very reason. Is because he's telling Nick Cayley, don't
get crazy here. I want to protect my guys. I
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want to give them a chance to be able to
win this game.
Speaker 4 (01:51:01):
But at the same time, man, you gotta at least
show that you have the stones for every once in
a while.
Speaker 1 (01:51:07):
To go for it.
Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
Well, I think that he would argue of yeah, we did.
Speaker 3 (01:51:10):
I mean, did you see you know us going wild
farmer or whatever the hell you want to call it
with cad Stover not once, but twice what happened and
they both got stuffed.
Speaker 4 (01:51:18):
So again, you have an opportunity to go up by seven.
You have an opportunity to go ahead and end the
game right there and force them to go seventy five yards.
You have an opportunity for you to be able to
at least be up by seven going in a halftime
and then get the ball back and keep that momentum
going into the third quarter in a division rivalry matchup
in a game to where you could take first place.
(01:51:40):
If you win your next two and Indy loses its
next two, you end up having a passive formation that
ultimately has Texans fans frustrated today in all win.
Speaker 2 (01:51:52):
Gary C. You want to get in on the Texans?
What you do that you want to join them?
Speaker 3 (01:51:56):
Seveone three two one two five seven ninety against seOne
three two on two five also one who squeeze in
a little bit of an astros note, because well, you
found out the price was high, and it was probably
even higher than you expected. We'll discuss all that right
here as we continue on the Morning Drive with Dann
and Cole Sports SOX seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:52:16):
Back to Dan and Cole as the Morning Drive cruise is.
Speaker 2 (01:52:19):
On Gary in Spring wants to wait in Gary.
Speaker 7 (01:52:23):
Good morning, Hey guys, good morning.
Speaker 6 (01:52:26):
You hear me?
Speaker 7 (01:52:27):
Okay, perfectly?
Speaker 10 (01:52:28):
Yeah, I just wanted to get in real quick early.
I was telling my wife this morning what I do
for a living. I drive around delivering auto parts. So
I listened to you guys, and of course when you
guys go to commercial, I turn the channel to the
other one just to compare what everybody's saying. And of
course this morning, they're all positive about everything because they're
they're they're employed there, the people on that network, they're
(01:52:53):
all employed by the Texas, so they're all pods and everything.
But I told my wife this morning, I said, man,
I can't wait to get on the radio. The Texas
have won six out of the last eight games, winning
all these games by one score, which builds character. Camaraderie
makes you a better, stronger team if you can win
all those games by just one score. So I think
(01:53:14):
it's a good thing, not a bad thing. But I
told her I would hear nothing but negatives on the
on the deal, but I look at it as my
glass is half full of the water and my and
my cup is clear, more clear than money and everything.
So I just was wanted to let some of the
folks out there hear that there is a good side
to all this, because when I hear the you guys
(01:53:36):
this morning, not both, not both of you, but one
of you is a little bit more negative than the other.
But you guys can figure that out between you. But anyway,
I look at it as a good thing, and I
can't wait till the gun till the game Sunday night.
So maybe try to get rid of that little that
dirty water in your cup and replace it with some
clean water so you can see through the cup more
positive and negative. But anyway, you guys, but it would
(01:53:59):
be a boying world, guys if everybody looked at it
the same way. So anyway, keep up the good banner
and go Texans.
Speaker 3 (01:54:07):
You appreciate the call, Garry, I'll try to be less
disdain Dan.
Speaker 7 (01:54:11):
I think that's what I.
Speaker 6 (01:54:14):
Don't.
Speaker 4 (01:54:14):
Well, again, my standards are different, Like I'm sorry, Like
I still believe that at some point, yes, you gotta win.
You got a very signature win yesterday. You were able
to gain ground in the division. You didn't have your fastball,
and you still were able to find a way to
get a victory. But at some point, you're still not
giving me enough juice to believe that this team has
turned the corner entirely, to believe that you're going on
a run of the playoffs, Like, yeah, you may make
(01:54:36):
the playoffs, but we made the playoffs the last two years.
You've been a team that has won against the wildcard
team as the underdog in that matchup the last two
years and then you go as the number four seed
on the road to the number one spot and you
find a way to not be able to deliver and
it's awful and they give you opportunities and you don't
have enough.
Speaker 2 (01:54:54):
So I mean, like, I personally think that right now,
that's all I'm seeing for the Texans team.
Speaker 4 (01:54:59):
Yes you're winning, Yes you're winning one score games, Yes
you're finishing, you're able to go ahead and hold on off.
But you're not showing me anything that's so impressive to
where I look at you, and I look at New England,
I'm like, Yep, you can beat them. I look at you,
I look at the card team, Yep you can beat them.
It all comes down to matchups. The only thing that
I'm saying right now that is better than you, that
(01:55:19):
I guarantee that you can beat is Denver, because you
should have beaten Denver with CJ. Stroud and then he
got hurt and then you watch Bonux win and set
up a game winning field goal by roots tripley.
Speaker 3 (01:55:29):
I don't think he knows about disdain Dan, right, I don't.
I don't think he knows about him yet. So you
know we're gonna we're gonna have to catch Cole up
on that. Some some mornings it does show up, it does,
but this is not one of them. This is uh,
this is delightful Dan today.
Speaker 2 (01:55:44):
And I'll be cranky call. I'm cool with that. It's
all good, all right, Hey, you know we've got a
working title there. We can we can maybe go with them.
Speaker 4 (01:55:50):
I mean, but like, let's be real for a second, Dan,
me completely honest. Yesterday's game, you get a win, You
have won six of your last eight. Do you feel
like that this Textans team is anything better than a
ten and seven roster?
Speaker 2 (01:56:03):
Not with this offense?
Speaker 7 (01:56:03):
Now, I don't.
Speaker 4 (01:56:04):
So again, we're right back at square one. It's year
three for the organization underneath Amiko Ryans and CJ.
Speaker 2 (01:56:11):
Stroud.
Speaker 4 (01:56:11):
You're nowhere near closer to being a threat to win
in the divisional round and make it to your first
ever AFC title game.
Speaker 2 (01:56:18):
You're not there yet.
Speaker 6 (01:56:19):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (01:56:20):
It's wash rinse repeat. Yes, you can feel confident about
winning yesterday all for it. You still ended up still
be in that. You still have been enough faulse around.
Speaker 3 (01:56:29):
Here's the good news though, is it's not like anybody
else out there is head and shoulders better than you.
Speaker 6 (01:56:35):
Like.
Speaker 2 (01:56:35):
Do you think that New England is head and shoulders
better than you?
Speaker 7 (01:56:38):
I do not.
Speaker 2 (01:56:39):
Do you think that Denver is head and shoulders better
than you? Hell should have beaten them.
Speaker 3 (01:56:44):
I mean, whoever comes out of the you know, the
the AFC North, I mean that's one of those too.
That this is where seeding really comes into play. I'm
telling you it's big that that. I mean, if you're
able to possibly lock up with either of those AFC
North teams, and even with you know, Lamar Jackson back
and the players that he didn't have the last time,
(01:57:04):
you still feel good about that, and you feel even
better if it's on your home field.
Speaker 4 (01:57:09):
Here's where I'm at though, when it comes to that part. Yes,
you feel good about winning those games. But at the
same time, I think you need to be higher. I
think you need to be in the top three to
guarantee that you are even in the conversation of winning
the divisional round, cause I will say I still wonder
about New England. New England could be just to flash
the pan really hot starts of the season. They could
(01:57:31):
crumble if you end up matching up against them in
the first round and you're playing in Foxborough in January
and it's a night game just environment itself. I'm taking
New England simply because of that. I've seen enough to
believe that New England is good enough to be able
to win that game.
Speaker 2 (01:57:48):
That's my sandswering.
Speaker 6 (01:57:49):
Well.
Speaker 3 (01:57:49):
But the good news is, though, is you have the
experience they don't, and I mean we see that play
out in the playoffs time and time again.
Speaker 2 (01:57:56):
That I mean, I know what New England is right now.
I don't know what New England is when they get
into the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (01:58:01):
I'll tell you, if you were this, I would feel much.
Here's where I feel the most confident. If the Texans
were the seven seed and they were traveling two mile
high to face off against Ember, because number one, it
would be a day game. Number two it would be
the Saturday game. And number three, I do not Trustember
at all.
Speaker 3 (01:58:14):
In the postseason, well, at least the last nine games,
they've found a way and it's interesting to see if
they can continue that. Uh seven one three two one
two five seven ninety. Get back to some of you
on the phone lines here in just a few but
let's also get back into the lane. Kif from the
LSU conversation because ESPN one oh four five and Baton
Rouge's Matt Moscona also with Louisiana Sports dot Net. He's
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gonna hop on with us here and give us the
lowdown on how that was able to come to fruition.
So we'll continue as we get into the nine o'clock
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And this is the Morning Drive with Dad and Cole.
Speaker 3 (02:00:33):
And of course Lane Kiffin now the head coach at
LSU and a man who knows all about this story.
From ESPN one oh four to five there in Batonuge,
also Louisiana Sports dot Net. He's all over YouTube scone,
You're everywhere, Like seriously, like, what does that business card
look like for you?
Speaker 2 (02:00:51):
For for all of the irons that you have in
the fire.
Speaker 7 (02:00:54):
I am hard to miss if you're on the internet, man,
you let me get in your algorithm. I am like
a relentless force.
Speaker 3 (02:01:03):
And then I mean even bourbon tips too, because you know,
even offline, I've come to you and been like, hey,
you know I'm at this place, what would you recommend here?
And you the real passion? That's that's the real passion. Yeah,
for sure, for sure, and you live it well my man.
All right, So just broad question, but you know, I
know that there's some answers to it. How did this happen?
(02:01:25):
How are they able to pull this off?
Speaker 7 (02:01:28):
I think verge Osbury LSU'SAD deserves a lot of credit.
And you go back and look at how the last
month transpired where there was a lot of instability around
LSU and you got the governor making the comments he did.
You didn't have a university president and ad or a
football coach. It's hard to go it's hard to go
convince the top tier coach take a job when there's
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no leadership in place. But LSU did a couple of things. Wisely,
Number one, they stopped talking, which allowed them to work
diligently and tactfully. I think Virgaws did a great job. Man,
he's a name that a lot of people probably don't
know Dan, but Firs has been part of LSU's athletic
administration for thirty years. He's done nearly every job you
(02:02:10):
can imagine. He was supremely qualified for the job. And
he's also very well connected. I mean he has a
standing phone convers He told me he's got a standing
phone called Nick Saban every two weeks. He's known Jimmy
Sexton for a lot of years, part of the search
that hired Nick Saban and bat and Rue twenty five
years ago. So you had a guy that was maybe
(02:02:30):
in a rare position of having relationships to leverage the
people very close to Lane Kiffin, like Saban and Sexton,
to put LSU in his awareness. And the other thing
they did was they were very patient. They told Lane
Kiffin from the beginning, hey go coach collegootball playoff. We
don't need an answer from you. You're a number one guy.
Will wait. They were willing to wait till the end
(02:02:51):
of the playoff, and so I think that removed all
of the pressure of timelines and deadlines and leverage and
a lot of things that come into place for negotiations.
It left Els vulnerable because if Lane Kiven had decided
to stay, they didn't really have a good plan B.
But they really tactfully maneuvered through this whole process over
the last month and really in the last two weeks.
(02:03:14):
Is when it ramped up. Two weeks ago today is
when Lane Kiffin's ex wife, Layla was in Baton Rouge,
and from that point everything shifted to LSU and they
got it to the finish line.
Speaker 4 (02:03:24):
Matt, everything is kind of being put together right now.
You're getting Charlie Wise Junior to get on the plane
with Lane yesterday. Probably the biggest news that dropped earlier
this morning is that Blake Baker's gonna stay on staff.
Speaker 2 (02:03:33):
He's going to be the.
Speaker 4 (02:03:34):
Defense coordinator, bearing a change of heart or an opportunity
to coach elsewhere. Just the impact of having the offense
that has been the Lane Kiffin Express that is a
top twenty scoring unit to pair alongside with what Blake
Baker has done the last two years. How quickly can
a turnaround actually happen out in Baton Rouge with link
given up the helm.
Speaker 7 (02:03:52):
It better happened immediately. I mean, it's listen. Kurtzignetti took
the worst job in college football as Indiana and the
playoffs each of his first two years. The nil and
portal era allows for a rapid turnaround. You no longer
have to wait through a three or four year rebuild,
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and that's going to be the expectation. Listen. Verge Ausbury
when he said at that podium introduced as the athletic director,
he said, LSU has to be in the twelve team
playoff every year, and that expectation. I mean, LSU will
never be short on resources, They'll never be short on talent.
This year things went sideways offensively, but as you mentioned,
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the defense was outstanding. So right now it's retaining this roster,
it's finishing off a recruiting class which starts on Wednesday.
Kiffen doing in the portal what he does every year,
starting next month and getting this team ready to go
to compete to be a collegetable playoff team. Look, there's
massive questions and I'm not saying that's a slam dunk.
(02:04:56):
Go place your bets, but you're asking what the expectation
is how quickly? I mean, this better be a team
contending for the College World Playoff next.
Speaker 3 (02:05:03):
Year again, Matt mascon a ESPN one oh four or
five hosts of After Further Review Weekday afternoons there in
Baton Rouge and like I said, all over the place,
YouTube everywhere in between louisianasports dot Net as well along
those same lines, I mean, just you know, expectations, and
we've been talking about and I think you even mentioned
it about you know what you know Ole miss is
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doing right now, that's the expectation every single year at LSU.
You've seen enough LSU football there of believing that he
can win a national title. Because is it safe to
say that LSU is one of the few programs Matt
where talent is never necessarily an issue.
Speaker 2 (02:05:40):
It sometimes comes down to coaching.
Speaker 7 (02:05:44):
I mean it shouldn't be because what I always say
Dan about about LSU is its greatest advantage is the dirt.
The LSU is the only power for program in a
talent rich State, and I would say LSU, Ohio State,
and Georgia are the only three they can claim that.
I know, Georgia Tech is in George's well, but if
(02:06:05):
we're being honest, Georgia and Georgia Tech aren't exactly aren't
exactly fishing in the same pond. But the point being
there are I mean, you throw it like. The number
one player in the country this year is ki named
Lamar Brown. He literally goes to University Lab School on
LSU's campus. Number one player in the country. The number
one quarterback in the country for twenty twenty seven is
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Elijahavin at the Dunham School, ten minutes from LSU's campus.
The number one defensive lineman in the country this year,
Richard Anderson's at DNACAR in New Orleans. He's a forty
five minute car ride from Lane Kiffin's office. I mean,
it's just look at Maliite neighbors and Brian Thomas and
Odell and Jarvis and Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson. All
those dudes played high school ball within an hour of
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LSU's campus. They there's an incredible talent here, and all
these kids grow up wanting to go to LSU, and
so yeah, I mean it's always the it's LSU didn't
do anything to earn that. It's just it's just geography.
But it's also the reality. And that's one of the
reasons why LSU is always going to have that advantage
of building a talented roster and when they aren't good,
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when a season like this happens when you're seven and
five with all the investment, and that's so why Brian
Kelly's not the coach here anymore, but similar because of
those resources. It's why it's why Lane Kiffin is the
coach now, Matt.
Speaker 4 (02:07:22):
When you look at it, it's a seven year contract,
ninety one million dollars.
Speaker 2 (02:07:26):
You just said it.
Speaker 4 (02:07:26):
And it's very clear LSU with what they have, with
how it just sells itself as a program that not
only has premier talent in the state, but also because
of what they can utilize in the transfer portal and
Lane Kiffin's willingness to have the transferportal, this should be
a rebuil that happens immediately. What if it's a seven
and five season in year one, what does the pressure
cooker look like for lan Kiffin going into year two?
Speaker 7 (02:07:49):
I mean, I think that's a pretty really obvious stance
to make a seven and five next year. People are
not going to be happy, man, don't I don't even
know that after his first year to'll miss you out
of seven and five season a five los season. Well,
his first year was the COVID year, so I don't
know that lane Kiffen had a five last season at illness,
but I don't know necessarily to think in those terms.
(02:08:10):
The interesting thing though about lane Kiffen's contract is I
understand it is how they structured the buyout. And again
I haven't seen the contract. I'm sure we all will
all get it when it's public record, but as I
understand it, the two interesting parts of this deal, which
may be what we see deal structured like moving forward.
One is he's going to have a bonus structure similar
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to the NFL, where you have likely to be earned
and not likely to be earned bonuses that will kick
him big time escalators for him. The other is the
buyout where if they win, his buyout will remain large
and robust. If they lose, the buyout will start to shrink.
So it gives LSU some protection, but it also has
enough incentive for laying there. If he wins, that twelve
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million a year will escalate to thirteen fourteen fifteen, sixteen million,
depending on bonuses and how how it all may escalate.
So it's a it's a it's an interesting way to
structure it where Lane's going to get a lot of
money up front, but he's also going to be incentivized
and rewarded for winning and he won't be rewarded for losing,
which is I think the way things probably should be again.
Speaker 3 (02:09:20):
ESPN one O four five in Baton Rouge's Matt moscona
louisianasports dot Net host of After Further Review weekday afternoons
there in Baton Rouge joining us for a couple of
more minutes.
Speaker 2 (02:09:31):
Just the whole rivalry now between LSU and Ole Miss.
Speaker 3 (02:09:34):
I mean, is this one of those Matt that from
from LSU side, it's kind of like, all right, that's
that's cute, old miss, Like you guys have had a
couple of nice seasons. You're not on our level, and
we just proved it, like this isn't like if they
had dipped over to Alabama and stolen him, or or
Florida or somewhere else like that. Like this is one
of those where it's clear that LSU showed, hey, we've
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got the strong arm here and we're going.
Speaker 2 (02:09:58):
To use it.
Speaker 7 (02:10:00):
I think it's really hard for Old Miss fans to
accept that. Probably some of that reality settles in a
little bit, but man, LSU fans are also a position
where they can empathize with Old Miss on this one,
because you know, twenty years ago Nick Saban left LSU
for the Miami Dolphins, and he had won a national
championship at LSU. His family loved LSU, they loved Baton Rouge.
(02:10:25):
LSU gave him every resource he needed to stay and
win as many championships as he want, basically to have
here the run he ended up having at Alabama, and
he left because he wanted something you couldn't provide, and
I mean LSU couldn't offer him the NFL, and it's
the itch he wanted to scratch. And so similarly, you
look at Kiffen and Old Miss gave him everything he wanted.
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I mean, he was the king of Oxford and they
gave him support at il and everything he wanted. But
he also wanted to win championships, not just make a
twelve team playoff, but the opportunity to can pepe for
win championships. And the analogy I give is the comparison is,
you know, a couple of weeks ago, olm Miss played
Florida and it was billed as the biggest game in
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the history of bott Hemingway Stadium. They had sixty eight
thousand people there, which was the largest crowd in the
history of that program. On the same day, LSU at
five and four played two and seven Arkansas at eleven
forty five in the morning and had more people in
Tiger Stadium than ole Miss did on the greatest day
in the history of their football program. Like, that's the
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disparity in the resources, the buy in, the fan involvement, everything,
and it's just the two aren't equal. And Lane Kiffin
has done a great job at ole Miss and he's
elevated that program. But I think what Lane kiffen understood
is there's a there's a lower ceiling at ole Miss
than there is in Baton Rouge, which ultimately is why
(02:11:52):
he's the LSU coach today. But I'm gonna tell you,
next year, y'all LSU plays in Oxford, I will not
be in oxy for that day. I will be watching
from the comfort and safety of my own couch because
I don't want any part of what that's going to
look like. Because like I was in Baton Rouge, that
was in Tiger Stadium in two thousand and eight, when
Nick Saban came back for the first time, he was
(02:12:13):
the coach at Alabama, and again there was a buffer.
Remember I mean he went He was the coach of
the Dolphins for two years before he went to before
he went to Alabama. Like he didn't leave LSU for Alabama.
This is Lane leaving amid a playoff run in the
conference to what Ole Miss looks at as their biggest rival.
(02:12:33):
Like I can't even imagine the vitriol, the anger, the hate,
what Oxford is going to be like next year when
when LSU goes it's I'll watch it. I'll watch it
on TV.
Speaker 2 (02:12:47):
So I'm mat on it with this because you bring
it up, Nick Saban.
Speaker 4 (02:12:50):
He did end up leaving and he went to he
went to Alabama when multiple national championships was able to
change the program of LSU for the better. Whether or
not we want to say that Lane Kiffen was meant
to be an ole Miss for the rest of his career.
He changed the program for the better. In your opinion,
what is the legacy of link given an.
Speaker 7 (02:13:05):
Ole Miss, Well, yeah, he just rewrote it. And I
think that's a that's a talking point that everyone nationally
is going to have and that's something that that he's
going to have to own. But similar with with Saban
when he left LSU and went to the Dolphins and
then went back to back into college and remember Nick
(02:13:28):
got burned for the whole I'm not going to be
the Alabama coach comment. But time and winning cures those things.
And so if Lane does have a ten to fifteen
year run at LSU where he wins multiple national championships,
he rewrites his legacy again. But if he burns out
(02:13:50):
here in Baton Rouge and doesn't win a championship or
in another three or four years bolts for the NFL, well,
that only can and used to add chapters to the
legacy of the guy that was the youngest coach in
the NFL that probably didn't deserve that opportunity at thirty one,
the guy who left Tennessee after one year, the guy
was fired on the tarmac at USC the guy who
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Nick Sabe and basically dismissed before the National Championship game
because he was so distracted. I mean, all those parts
of Lane Kiffen's legacy are in that story for a reason,
and this is an ugly new chapter the way he's
going to be perceived nationally. But time and winning can
can cure those things. He's got to go do it. Yep.
Speaker 2 (02:14:34):
It heals a lot of things, that's for sure. He's
Matt Moscone.
Speaker 3 (02:14:38):
Matt Moscona again ESPN one oh four to five there
in Baton Rouge's host of After Further Review and also
with Louisiana Sports dot Net scone. You're the best, man.
Appreciate you having a few minutes for us this morning.
I'm sure your phone's been ringing NonStop, man, So we'll
catch up with you again here very soon.
Speaker 7 (02:14:54):
I always happen to do a guys, all of a
great day.
Speaker 2 (02:14:56):
All right, you as well again Matt Moscona.
Speaker 3 (02:14:58):
I mean, like I said, he was all over it
from the beginning, and now well, things get even more
interesting there in Baton Rouge.
Speaker 4 (02:15:05):
He's right about one thing. I mean, you talk about
the legacy, it's going to be one of two things.
You either win, you win big. You're able to go
ahead and continue the legacy of what is program supposed
to be defining culture out in LSU or a lot
of people are gonna be looking at him and saying
Al Davison's deathbedders right about you.
Speaker 2 (02:15:21):
He's put himself out there. There's no question about it's
all right.
Speaker 3 (02:15:24):
We did want to get into one little Astros notes,
so let's squeeze that in before we get Adam Wesler
here in the bottom of the hour. So we'll do
that because it's one that directly affects them and one
that kind of does, but it told you a different
story about the Astros. We'll discuss that here as we
continue on the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole right
here at Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (02:15:46):
Good Morning Drive with Dan and Cole on Sports Talk
seven ninety, home of the Strolls, Rockets and Houston's best
sports talk.
Speaker 3 (02:15:56):
And also Lane Kiffin, the new head coach at LSU's
We just talked with Matt Moscona of ESPN one oh
four to five about him a few minutes ago. We'll
talk some Texans here in a little over five minutes
when our good buddy Adam Wesler hops on with us
from the A team, so we'll recap yesterday's win with him.
Speaker 2 (02:16:16):
But a couple of different things from the Astros.
Speaker 3 (02:16:19):
One of them is something that they had their name
connected to him, but nothing really ever got to something
of substance in terms of contract negotiations, at least we believe,
because Dylan Cees over the weekend signing with the Blue
Jays for a seven year, two million dollar deal. Cole,
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as soon as I saw that deal come down, I said, yeah,
you weren't in that ballpark.
Speaker 4 (02:16:46):
Thank god, Thank you Dana Brown for never even making
that e considerable offer. Thank you go out fun in Toronto,
don't care. And Dylanc's conversation. I'm glad about that. I'm
beyond thankful that that's happening. I'm beyond blood that we
need not to see him go be a part of
this organization because I know what people are gonna say,
He's durable, he needs to change the scenery. Guys, he's durable,
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which means the second that you sign him, that's when
the jury start to pile on up.
Speaker 3 (02:17:14):
Well, I mean, I think if nothing else, it just
kind of I mean, could you have made the argument
it would have been like the pitcher version of possibly
Christian Walker for many more years, but that it could
have been one where it's like, hey, we're paying this
guy to be in front of the you know, front
of the rotation guy, and we're not getting front of
the rotation results.
Speaker 4 (02:17:33):
Well, you're gonna get a guy that will give you
six innings at most in a start, and he'll have
a three point nine to a three point eight RA
and he currently is going to be the fifth highest
paid pitcher in the in the MLB. Here's where he's
making more money than him going into next season. Yoshinobu Yamamoto,
Garrett Cole, Max Reed, Corbyn Burns.
Speaker 2 (02:17:51):
Now here's the reason why I throw all those names
out there.
Speaker 4 (02:17:54):
I do not think for one second Dylan Cees is
better than any of those guys you want know who
I think could be as good as those guy Hunter Brown.
And if you're going to pay thirty million dollars for
an asking price on Dylan Cees, it's going to be
forty million dollars for Hunter Brown.
Speaker 2 (02:18:08):
He is going to leave you. He is going to
sign elsewhere.
Speaker 3 (02:18:12):
And the other part too, is that it sounds like
the trade market for Jake Myers is ramping up even
more some notes from Ken Rosenthal that the Astros centerfield
are coming off a modest offensive breakout season is one
player that could help trigger some moves, either through free
agency or trade. With a few quality center fielders available
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out there, MLB trade rumors projects that Myers is going
to earn three point five million in the first of
his two remaining club control gears with the Astros.
Speaker 2 (02:18:42):
The Astros are.
Speaker 3 (02:18:43):
Open to moving him for a controllable major league starter,
according to people briefed on their discussions, and the interest
in Myers entering his age thirty campaign is considerable.
Speaker 2 (02:18:54):
Is considerable other clubs say.
Speaker 4 (02:18:56):
Okay, so basically you're saying, let's get a number two starter.
We'll trade to Jake Myers. We'll throw something else in
the package, but that's where we're going to do it.
I mean, this is one of those two that I mean,
you're going to see him dangled out there. Bryce Matthews.
Speaker 3 (02:19:08):
It sounds like is a trade chip that people are
also interested in, and he's log jammed here. I mean,
it's just you're not gonna be able to put him
at second I mean anywhere else in the enfield. I mean,
I understand that maybe you had future plans for him,
but I think it also too is somebody that can
help be able to jump start because Myers alone is
not going to get you that. You're going to have
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to have at least one or two more guys that
are going to even remotely get you.
Speaker 4 (02:19:32):
In that conversation, you have to have a serious thought
process this offseason about what you want to do with
Bryce Matthews, and that role is. You got to see
if he can be the next more Easo Dubon, if
he can be that dude who is a utility player
that will go into either corner outfield spot, play in
the infield, get some reps at third base, be an
all around player by all means, keep them around. If
you think that he is destined to play in the
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only middle infield, you gotta trade him because if you're
not moving off Jeremy Panya, you're not going to be
able to move Hosel two. He is going to have
to play partially at second base. Escoch Parades could get
looks at second base. You have Carl's Korea at third
There's not a spot for him on the roster, so
you might as well get something back in return while
you know that he is out of the conversation.
Speaker 2 (02:20:13):
Here, here's the where we are with the logjam.
Speaker 4 (02:20:15):
Also, Dan, you're at a point of where you have
a lot of these guys in sugar Land that are
ready for the majors. They doesn't have a spot to go,
So you're basically wasting their tenure where being in sugar
Land when you could trade them, get some valuable options
and put yourself in a position to where you still
are competitive in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (02:20:33):
Let's get back into the Texans conversation, because well, the
man is mister Texan all in his own and he
is part of the a team every single weekday afternoon
two to six. Here on Sports Talk seven ninety, Adam
Wexler recapping that yesterday's game with us.
Speaker 2 (02:20:47):
We'll do that right here. So it is the morning
Drive with Dan and Coles Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 15 (02:20:53):
This is Joyce Potto listening to the Astros on your
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Talk seven ninety is your home fil Astros Baseball.
Speaker 3 (02:21:05):
A man who is all over the Texans and the Rockets.
You hear them every single weekday afternoon two to six
with Adam Clanton on the A team, he's Adam Wexler.
Little recap of yesterday's Texans win. Wex I mean, you know,
it's one of those things in Me and Cole have
talked about it and it's been kind of a you know,
ongoing talking point for us here is doesn't it feel
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like with the Texans, you get this this defense at
least twenty points, you feel good that you're going to
win that game.
Speaker 13 (02:21:34):
Well, ten times they've held the opponent to twenty or less,
best in the NFL, so it's pretty good philosophy. You
think the record would actually be even better than that,
but they just don't put a whole lot of points
on the board. I'm not sure why they love the
late game drama when they really don't need to, but
that's how they play it and I don't imagine it's
going to change over the final five games of the season.
Speaker 2 (02:21:54):
Welex Why am I still being pessimistic about this team?
Speaker 4 (02:21:57):
Like I still feel like that there are things about
them that drive me crazy to where, yeah, you're gonna
be a playoff team. You'll probably go eleven and six
you'll win the division, but we're gonna see the same
results we saw last year. You'll go host a playoff game,
you'll win that matchup. You're going the road against the
number one team, You'll lose him fatot fashion.
Speaker 13 (02:22:14):
I don't know. Maybe you're a wet blanket, but I
don't think this postseason is going to be at all
like the previous postseasons because everything's kind of flipped upside
down right now. You got the Chiefs outside the playoffs.
You got the Ravens stumbling to a division title. Maybe
you have the Bills winning this week but not looking
very impressive and clearly showing obvious holes. As the Texans
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laid out, these are the teams that have been in
your way for several years. I don't know that the
Patriots or the Broncos, or the Chargers, obviously not the
Colts present that kind of challenge to Houston or anybody else.
They might have these impressive records. The Broncos and Patriots
additionally have impressive winning streaks. Patriots will put theirs on
the line tonight, but they're obviously extremely eatable. And that's
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the difference this year in the AFC. I mean, the Patriots.
Let's say they go in as the number one seed.
Will anybody pick them to win the AFC? I think
that number will be extremely small.
Speaker 3 (02:23:11):
Again, Adam Wexler with the A team, join us here
on the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole, and let's
take the Texans out of it for a second. But
the two other teams in the AFC South that you
need to try to overtake. That's Indian, that's Jacksonville. How
do you see these next five weeks going for those
two teams?
Speaker 13 (02:23:30):
Honestly, if those teams split their games against each other,
they play this coming game and then they play in
week seventeen. If that's a split, Texans will win the division.
I think it's as simple as that. Texans will win,
you know, two of their next three, minimum maybe all three.
The way the Chiefs are playing, I don't know what
the Chargers will look like at that point in the season.
They kind of find a way each week, but not
in very impressive fashion. And obviously you close with the Colts.
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But if the Jaguars don't sweep the Colts, or the
Colts don't sweep the Jaguars, most likely the Texans are
actually have the tiebreaker with every team. They're already four
and one in the division. They've obviously already played very
well in their AFC games, which tends to be more important.
Obviously from a tiebreaker standpoint. Common opponents, all those things
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are probably gonna be in their back pocket. The game
this week is huge to that end. But the Texans
and winning this division is it's staring them right in
the face, and essentially they control their own destiny for that.
Because those two teams play each other twice.
Speaker 4 (02:24:28):
The Wexler research team had a couple of hours to
go ahead and get this information in what's the CA
CJ shoan in his return.
Speaker 13 (02:24:36):
I think he shows the difference between he and Davis
Mills every time he goes out there, whether it's this
time because it was directly after you got to see Davis.
He doesn't necessarily like to take what's there. He doesn't
like the short underneath nonsense that gets you up and
down the field. He likes to make plays, and good
quarterbacks play like that, and everything I'm saying is a
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good thing. Usually it's a very very good thing. Would
have liked to have that throwback, and.
Speaker 7 (02:25:02):
That's what he'll do. That Davis.
Speaker 13 (02:25:03):
Mills just wouldn't do. Davis didn't turn the ball over
after his third pass of his three game stint, and
that's the difference. He will not try to do anything.
They'll call plays, they call for Davis to throw to
his first read, Well, that is what Davis is going
to do.
Speaker 7 (02:25:18):
CJ.
Speaker 13 (02:25:18):
Stroud had plenty of pass protection yesterday. That was one
of the first times this season where more often than
not he could scan the field, he could look down
the field. He did attempt ten passes to Nico Collins.
These are the things you want to see. His performance
was fine, not one of his best performances, but he
did move the ball down the field, you know, two
hundred and seventy plus yards. The way that they played
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offense yesterday through the air showed you what he wants
this offense to be. I would guess that this would
be one of his poorer days the rest of the way.
I think he's going to play better than this. Each
of the starts that come up next to this. Totally
fine with how he played. Obviously looked. He did look
a little rusty. One play in particular might not be
the same one ever, everybody else dislikes as much, but
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he cannot continue to take the sacks that he does.
I don't mean getting sacked, I mean turning a three
or four yard loss into an eleven or twelve yard loss.
He just constantly believes he can outrun a defender, outspin
a defender, and it's totally unnecessary either throw the ball
away or go down. He just lose them extra unnecessary
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yardage and it's been a staple of his three year career.
Speaker 3 (02:26:27):
Wex, we know what Demiko Ryans wants to be on
both the offensive and defensive line, but at least on
the offensive side, we know what they're not. But it's
again yesterday, short yardage, third down, you get stuffed, all right, Hey,
let's go forward on fourth down.
Speaker 2 (02:26:42):
We all knew how that was going to play out.
Speaker 3 (02:26:43):
I mean, is this just pretty much something that we
just got to deal with, Like they're going to continue
to bang their head against this wall and continue to
not break through.
Speaker 13 (02:26:53):
I mean they ran it four times. I guess you
could say they were successful two times and unsuccessful two times, Right, Yeah,
Kate Stover at war carries. I mean, I don't know
that we knew how it was going to play out.
I wouldn't call that play. I don't like that scenario
for an offensive line that doesn't push. Stover is the
one who made the play. It's not you are trying
to overcome your offensive line there, which is why you
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shouldn't run the play. There are plenty of other things
to do. Those weren't Those weren't even the worst direct
snap plays they had. The direct snap play in the
red zone to Nip Chubb is moronic, absolute insanity. They
ran other good red zone plays. Obviously, the Nico Collins
touchdown was a nice wrinkle. They have so many more
plays in their playbook. And this is a NFL wide issue.
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That is banging your head against a wall because there's
a wall of defenders there. The Eagles success rate on
their own tush pushes. And by the way, I'm not
going to be calling these Texans plays tush pushes because
I like to be active.
Speaker 2 (02:27:48):
I said, the Farmers Carry is a good name. The
Farmers carry for for Kate Stover quarterback sneak.
Speaker 4 (02:27:54):
It isn't.
Speaker 13 (02:27:55):
We don't have to be super creative. It's a QB sneak.
He's playing quarterback, that's all it is. It's okay, it's
not a terrible idea, and I'm glad that they put
somebody in there that can probably get those yards. But
I do think the length they had to go on
three of them was way too far for that play call.
The length they had to go on the first one
that was successful, that's when you call it, but you
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also call it over and over and over again, and
it got less successful the more they called it. The
cults are probably more upset about their play call, with
Tyler Warren considering he couldn't even handle the football. But
there's just so much more to do there. I know
they want to keep it simple and they don't want
to get too you know, think too much. Well, they're
actually not thinking enough. These teams that think, well, there's
a you know, ten thousand pounds on one side and
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we've got eight thousand pounds on our side, we'll win.
It's not good math.
Speaker 2 (02:28:41):
Well, ax, I gotta do.
Speaker 4 (02:28:42):
I gotta pick your brain on this one, because you
and I probably see it the exact same way. I
what in the actual hell was going on in that
last drive before halftime? What was Demika Ryan's thinking? What
was the narrative there? Because whenever I have this conversation.
I say, you play for the tie, you don't go
for the jugular moments. It's like that, a minute fifty
one on the clock, two timeouts, going through the motions
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at halftime, and then using an excuse of, oh, well,
you know what, we get the ball in the second half,
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (02:29:08):
What did you take away from that?
Speaker 13 (02:29:11):
I think he played it like a defensive coach. I
don't want the other team to get the ball back.
If they don't get the ball back, they can't score.
I think that's the way he played it. I think
that's the way he does it often, more often than not,
in that situation, they've been much more aggressive. And after
they you know, the first play, you'd think, okay, perfect,
we know where we're headed. We're headed down the field.
Let's go ahead and move a little bit more equivalent,
let's run no huddle's let's keep this tempo going. And
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even when they didn't, they still had a second chance
to kind of change their mindset. You know, after they
got the second completion ton Eco Collins, they're at the
forty five and they have timeouts, they have a chance
to go. I was a little surprised with how they
operated and really the play calls because everything was looking
underneath to everybody when they weren't thrown an ego. But
I think that's the simple answer is he just thought,
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at that situation, with where they were, I'm not going
to give them a chance to get anything before halftime.
I want I'm going into the half of the lead.
That's all there is to it. And I think he
played it that way. That's the answer to what was
he thinking. I don't think that's the correct way to
think with everybody else that's saying, why don't they try
to score points here? That's the simple answer again overthinking things.
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Even in a game that they won, even in a
game where they held on to the lead right there
at the half, I think I would have played it
rather differently.
Speaker 3 (02:30:21):
He gave the scenario for how this team is a
playoff team as the division winner. Let's go through another scenario.
If the Texans win Sunday night in Kansas City, are
they a playoff team?
Speaker 13 (02:30:33):
But they're a playoff team regardless?
Speaker 2 (02:30:37):
Easy enough?
Speaker 13 (02:30:37):
I mean, what scenario is going to keep them out
of the playoffs? That would be losing to the Chiefs,
Chargers and Colts. Basically, I mean if this team has
six losses, which let's say it's the Chiefs, they have
seven losses, they're in a bad spot. So two games,
if they lose two out of these final five, they'd
be in a tough spot. They lose one or less.
And honestly, at this point, I don't think it matters
to whom they're going to the playoffs because whomever it is,
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if it's the Chiefs, that's really the only team that
would have the tiebreaker over them. And now you're just
basically saying the Chiefs are going to win out and
at some point people are going to understand these aren't
the same Chiefs. These Chiefs don't win every close game.
These Chiefs basically don't win any close games. So I
like the Texas chances to win this week. So yeah,
if they win this week, they're going to the playoffs.
But I already think they're doing I mean, I think
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they're going to the playoffs regardless WEX.
Speaker 4 (02:31:23):
Let me ask you before we gets John ADDI here,
who's the one team that you want to face off
against in the first round, whether it be as a
wildcard team or as the AFC South champions.
Speaker 13 (02:31:32):
Well, it'd be awesome if the Ravens or Steelers. Basically,
if the Ravens allow the Steelers to win the division
and that's the team you match up against, that would
be the best thing. Ever, the Steelers are a bad
football team. I don't think the Ravens are much better.
I definitely don't think the Jaguars are much better. And
that's three teams right out of the gate. At any
one of them. I don't even think the location of
the game would make a difference in terms of the
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Texans being favored in any of those situations. You add
to it, they've already beaten the Bills. You add to that,
they've already beaten the Colts. They have an opportunity this
week to beat the Chiefs. Any of these teams, That's
what I was saying from the beginning. Where's the I
don't know how they're going to beat this team. In
the AFC, we wouldn't say that about any of them,
all right.
Speaker 4 (02:32:11):
Real fast, you got to go face off. You're the
seven seed to go up against the number two seed
in Denver. You get revenge of that matchup.
Speaker 13 (02:32:17):
Absolutely. I think the Texans would already be one to
zero against the Broncos of CJ finished that game.
Speaker 2 (02:32:22):
Yep, totally agree, totally agree. Yeah, quick and to the point.
Speaker 3 (02:32:26):
Adam Wexler again part of the A team every single
weekday afternoon two to six right here on Sports Talk
seven ninety and you can see him also on Space
City Home Network from three to six. Wellx appreciate it, man.
Always great to catch up with you, and we'll be
listening this afternoon.
Speaker 13 (02:32:43):
Great to be a part of the morning drive.
Speaker 3 (02:32:45):
There you go, how about it? Well, you know we'll
have to have you back a lot more often appreciated, buddy, you.
Speaker 4 (02:32:51):
Got it, man, He's one hundred percent right, and I'm
frustrated they should have won that game against Dember. I'm
more mad about that game than any other game they
had this year, including the jist.
Speaker 3 (02:33:00):
Well, I mean, speaking of getting mad, there was somebody
over the weekend that faked like they were mad, and
then there was somebody else that was actually mad. We'll
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Speaker 1 (02:34:30):
They are all Morning Drive.
Speaker 3 (02:34:32):
Here's Dan Matthews and Cole Thompson, Larry and Stafford wants
to weigh in at seven one three two one two
five seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (02:34:40):
Good morning, Larry Lawrence, Good.
Speaker 6 (02:34:42):
Morning, Good morning, bull dog. I hope you had a
wonderful Thanksgiving. I don't hope the same thing for your
partner up there cold because, like uh WEG said, he
here wit blanket on this rainy monday. Man. Cole, what's
wrong with you? You know?
Speaker 7 (02:34:58):
I wish you a happy Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (02:34:59):
Ho what's wrong with you?
Speaker 6 (02:35:02):
What's wrong with you?
Speaker 7 (02:35:03):
You?
Speaker 6 (02:35:03):
You? You just not want to buy in that the
Texas defense can go anywhere in the country, no matter
if it's in January, and play cold weather football in
New England.
Speaker 13 (02:35:13):
Look, Larry, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (02:35:16):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 6 (02:35:16):
I do.
Speaker 4 (02:35:17):
The defense is not what I worry about whatsoever. You
tell me that this is a defense about between New
England or Denver on the road. Absolutely, they're gonna show up,
show up?
Speaker 6 (02:35:29):
Can the offense show up and the offense show they
could show up? We see Demko said it the other day.
We see the blueprint. We we all we need is
twenty points. You saw it yesterday. We we're gonna take
away whatever you do very very well, Jonathan Taylor, and
we're gonna make your least average quarterback try to beat us.
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And if you give that defense twenty points, I don't
give a damn run they play at they can play
in the Walmart parking lot in Stanford. They don't beat you.
And here's the thing about what happened yesterday. When everybody
was out here screaming about replacing CJ. Stroud and all
this other stuff, they failed to remember what life was
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like before CJ. Stroud got here. And he reminded them
yesterday that was that his eight plus game. No, that
was probably a B game. But we know that he
has the ability to improve. That offense is doing just
enough to be able to get the ball to our
defense and win games. And as far as anybody else
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in the now's in the Football League, the Chiefs and
all these other teams, they got to worry about the
fact that once this team gets rolling and they see
what that defense is gonna do to their quarterbacks, it's
gonna be a hard game for them. But here's where
I'm at it was a great Thanksgiving for your boy,
because my lonehorns made all them Maggie's cry. Then my
Texans go up to Indianapolis and Eastern shrimp cocktail at
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Saint Elmo's and then beat them down, Coach Sass. And
now we get to going ruin the ch season. Cole,
It's gonna be all right, man. Let's focus on getting
Jake Myer dance up out of here and figuring out
what the MASO is gonna do, and Dan, you and
I'll talk more baseball.
Speaker 7 (02:37:09):
Later in a hall.
Speaker 2 (02:37:11):
I appreciate it, Larry, Yeah, what's your problem? What is
your problem over there?
Speaker 3 (02:37:16):
I mean, you know, look, I'm not saying we both
have to be positive pats here, but you know, why
don't you meet me halfway here now?
Speaker 2 (02:37:23):
Not that I listen.
Speaker 4 (02:37:24):
Good, good game plan, offensively, defensive always, You've always been
good defensively, So got to answer the question offensively. Talk
talk to me next Monday when you go into Arrowhead
on Sunday night football a place you have never won
in the Damiko Ryans era, and get a win and
also positive tripley.
Speaker 3 (02:37:41):
I think he just hit us with I ain't the
one today is not the day Twofer we got. We
got a two for the price of one from Cole.
Speaker 2 (02:37:47):
And ain't that. I'm sorry, guys, Listen, great defensive performance.
I've said that for back to back years. Great execution
on the side of the ball.
Speaker 4 (02:37:57):
With Demiko Ryans has thrived offensively, I got I see
more than twenty points.
Speaker 2 (02:38:01):
All right, let's close it out with this.
Speaker 3 (02:38:02):
So we of course we're watching the Texas Texas A
and M game on Friday night and Texas able to
win that one twenty seven to seventeen, and A and
M was favored in this game. And I don't think
it would have surprised people if A and M had
won finish off the undefeated season. You know, we would
have had to commemorative cups, the T shirts, the hats,
the license plate holders, you know, all of those things
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to remind you that in twenty twenty five they went undefeated.
But still, I don't think you're gonna get the same
zing with those at eleven and one. But still, you're
a playoff team. Your consolation prize is our buddy. Peter
Burns of the SEC Network pointed out, you're gonna get
a home playoff game good for you on that well,
fake mad, real mad or two bits of audio that
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we have the fake mad is Texas head coach Steve
Sarkisian afterwards CJ.
Speaker 2 (02:38:51):
Vogel with Inside Texas.
Speaker 3 (02:38:53):
I guess he had picked against the Horns, and let's
just say that Sarka wanted to let him know that, Hey, dude,
you were coach.
Speaker 2 (02:39:01):
Fifth straight week, you've thrown it, by the way, picked
us to lose tonight.
Speaker 13 (02:39:05):
If anybody was wondering, I did.
Speaker 2 (02:39:07):
Indeed, thanks for rehashing that one. Uh but fifth straight
week you've called the team knows that too, CJ. What
I know, see light moment. It's all good.
Speaker 3 (02:39:18):
You know he's not upset. But there were also people
that I saw that responded to that of what a rabbit.
Here's like, what do you care?
Speaker 4 (02:39:26):
Everyone I know in the national spotlight pick text saying
and to win this game. Steve Sarcasian, please make sure
that you go ahead and call on every single person.
If you want to go ahead and act that way,
by all means, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (02:39:35):
You want to go you want to go ahead and.
Speaker 4 (02:39:37):
Have that conversation, do it, but do so by making
sure that you call every single person on out when
they ask.
Speaker 7 (02:39:42):
You a question.
Speaker 3 (02:39:43):
Now we get to the real mad because Texas was
celebrating on the field.
Speaker 1 (02:39:47):
It was a loud.
Speaker 3 (02:39:48):
Atmosphere there inside DKR Memorial Stadium. Let's just say in
the postgame A and M head coach Mike Elco was
not too pleased about hearing the celebration while he was talking,
we didn't.
Speaker 2 (02:39:59):
Play the way needed to.
Speaker 12 (02:40:00):
Can we close the door and run a professional press conference?
Speaker 7 (02:40:03):
Please?
Speaker 4 (02:40:04):
My gosh, sorry, Look, have you ever if you've ever
been in DKR, you understand that they have the small, little,
basically woodshed type room for reporters to be on in
and reporters were walking in late and you can hear
as the fans are cascading out cheering on and they
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just lost their perfect season. Batted Aggie syndrome alive, and well, yeah,
I get the frustration. I do run a professional press conference. Yeah,
that's that's that's what the problem was.
Speaker 3 (02:40:37):
That's why we lost this damn games because you use
stiffs in here.
Speaker 4 (02:40:41):
Win in four quarters in Austin and don't live up
to the little brother syndrome. Do that and then have
a conversation Mikelco Aggie fans can say what they want,
but this burns them. This burns Oh it sucks. Oh
spare me, spare me on. Oh well, you know what,
we went to love them one and we're going to
the playoff. You lost to Texas and they get to
brag about this for the rest of the year.
Speaker 7 (02:41:01):
Yeah, you want to.
Speaker 2 (02:41:01):
You want to have your cake and eat it all too.
Speaker 1 (02:41:03):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (02:41:03):
Appreciate everybody who jumped on with us today. Always appreciate Tripley,
Emmanuel Elmore, Cole Thompson, Dan Matthews. Also special thanks to
Matt Moscona VSPN one O four five and Adam Lexler too.
The A team hopping on with us. We will talk
to you in twenty hours. The Matt Thomas Show with
Ross next
This is the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Let me go, good morning here.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
We are back in the saddle here on the Morning
Drive with Dan and Cole.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I'm the Dan part.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
He is col Thompson, Triple Emmanuel Elmore back in the
saddle too.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We're all back in here.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
And you know, we always have the question of the day,
and we'll go ahead and get that one out of
the way first.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
What's your way of getting back into the swing of
things like this?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
This is the ultimate one of those where a lot
of people had the entire week off last week, and
we worked all the way up until Wednesday and we
get Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday off, so four straight days.
Well some of us Cole Thompson burning the midnight oil
over here because I mean, you, I don't think get
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enough credit for this because everybody you know looks at
Gordy is locked on SEC. He is, but I mean
you're SEC unfiltered your Texans wire too. Yeah, that's another one.
So I mean you yesterday did not have a day off.
As a matter of fact, maybe you had Thursday off.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I had Thanksgiving off and that was about that. That
was quite literally.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I did a live stream right after I got off
here with us on Wednesday, had Thursday to go be
with the family. Friday Egg Bowl coverage, countless other college
football games, lone Star Showdown. Texas still owns Texas A
and M. That's not changing anytime soon. Great matchups on
Saturday Texans game yesterday. College football coaching carousel went crazy,
but suck in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
This is the.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Beginning of the end for you. And credit to the Texans.
They did exactly what we said they were gonna do.
Number One, you stopped up Jonathan Taylor eighty five total
yards to the leading rusher in the NFL. Number Two,
you did just enough offensively. You needed twenty, you got twenty.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
And you know, that's one of the talking points that
we've brought up numerous times. And I was on with
Nate Griffin Fox twenty six this morning and I told
him exactly what I've brought up with you numerous times,
that this offense, you give them twenty, you give them
twenty four, and you're you're able to allow this defense
to go to work. I mean, it's amazing how this
defense looks when you give them a lead, you spot
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them a lead, and they're able to play from in front,
then it gets even more fun for you. And that's
exactly what we saw yesterday in no Indianapolis fans. That's
why I intentionally left the booing in there after the
Nico Collins touchdown for that very reason, because, like, I
love that where you know, oh, well, that was a
crappy pass interference call. How about the one that even
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Chris Simms called out on the pregame on NBC saying
that the hot dog vendor had a better chance at
catching that pass interference football than the guy that was
actually having it thrown to him.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Dude, you know what I love is that after dealing
with t Y Hilton for almost a decade as being
a Texans killer, now it's Nico Collins.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Think the Colts another game with over one hundred yards
ninety eight receiving, you're throwing the seven yard touchdown run,
it's four straight where he hits the triple digit marker,
but the nail on the coffin and go ahead and
get yourself in the end zone. I'll tell you what, man,
it was not a good performance in my opinion, from
the defense, from the standard of what we're usually accustomed
to seeing. Once again, they said, we are giving you sixteen,
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we need twenty offensive enough to go ahead and respond.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
That they did, and the Texans able to get CJ.
Stroud back in the swing of things twenty of thirty
five two hundred and seventy six yards out of him.
He has sacked a couple of times in this game
and the run game too, where it's the aggregate. In
the run game, it's not even about you know, having
one guy go for one hundred and then maybe you
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know a couple of other guys able to jump in.
But what did you think of what do we want
to call the wildcat with Cade Stover?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
What do we want to call that?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
The farmers carry, the farmers plow like farmers care. I
think works because you know he's a big farmer and
you know that that is a workout routine.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
The farmers carry, I would just say.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Gronk smash because he's wearing eighty seven, big time tight end,
just pile driving his way forward.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Not that be for me?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, well, I mean it almost has. It almost comes
back to bite you. I mean I understand too, and
it's just it's it's so aggravating, like I understand what
Demiko Ryans wants this team to be. I understand that
he wants it to be dominate on both lines of scrimmage.
But I mean, just right there, you kick the field
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goal even at fourth, in less than a yard, and
you're having that team have to go seventy plus yards
to try to just tie you up.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I like your chances right there.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I mean, to be completely fair, dude, there were multiple
moments in yesterday's game that were just bad coaching malpractice.
That's going to be a learning lesson for Damika Ryans.
I mean, go back to the two minute warning right
before halftime. They don't really have an identity. They're letting
seconds countless seconds, pull off the clock. JJ Watson on
the broadcast, I don't know what they're trying to do here,
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because if they would go for a good thirty seconds,
let the clock run down, then get a playoff, and
then it'd be like thirty six seconds left with two
timeouts and say, oh you know what, now we're gonna
utilize it. Now we're gonna go ahead and hit reset
and get our team a chance to breathe. And then
like he's on with Evan Washburn afterwards, it's like, well,
we felt confident that we had an opportunity to get
the ball back at the second half, we were just
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trying to get into range. Well, dude, when it's one
fifty one left on the clock and you want to
go for the juggular in a division rival matchup, that
gives you an advantage, show a little bit of at
least heart and intensity at this standpoint, because like, there
was so many things that could have easily gone your
way if you just fixed up a few little moments.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
The fourth down call, kick the damn field goal, go
up by a touchdown, guarantee that Daniel Jones with a
mediocre running attack on Sunday was not gonna be able
to get into that range, force them to.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Earn their way into overtime.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Malpractice, That one whiff right before halftime, couple of really
bad coaching designs I think from Nick Cayley and the
offense of the second half, and how you're sitting at
seven to five, you're three and three away from NRG Stadium.
Guess what you go into Arrowhead next week, you win
that game, you all but eliminate Kansas City in their
playoff chances you have an opportunity to get back in
the first place in the division. Everything now comes down
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to Indianapolis and Jacksonville shooting each other in.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
The foot well, and then also too, I mean, you
just look at the rest of the way for the
Texans and also for the Colts. I mean, for the Texans,
you mentioned that game coming up next Sunday night there
in Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
But then you get the.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Cardinals and Raiders back to back, and you finish up
with the Chargers at their place, and then the Colts
back here in Houston. But it is not as fortunate
for Indianapolis. They have now lost three of their last four.
They're now in second in the AFC South, And you know,
you win next Sunday, you pretty much leapfrogged them for
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the next spot, because I.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Mean, somebody's gonna lose.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
But well, I mean, I guess you could say they
could tie between Jacksonville and Indy and they're gonna take
on each other. So you'll be able to see that
game early on and then get the Texans game on
Sunday night. But they've got Jacksonville twice. They've got to
go to Seattle. They host the forty nine ers and
then they come here to Houston to finish off the season.
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Is it safe to say it's dire straits in Indianapolis
right now? Where it's it's a polar opposite of the
seasons at this point, because the Texans started off zero
to three, getting the three and five at one point,
and it looked like the Colts just had an insurmountable lead.
Now all of a sudden, lose three of your last
four very much in striking distance and trending in the
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absolute wrong direction.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yes, but no.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
And the reason I say that, Dan is because number
one Indianapolis is going to have an opportunity to play
against Jacksonville twice. So if you win those games, you're
right back in the conversation. If you beat up on
Houston in the week eight team matchup, that'll probably be
good enough to win you the division. That's just my
standpoint Number two. I'm sorry, spare me on. Oh well,
they keep finding ways to win. Eventually, the other shoe
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has got to drop on Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
It has to drop.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
They have one significant win in their last five games.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Think about this.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
They won against the Las Vegas Raiders, one of the
worst teams in the NFL that has fired its offensive
coordinator and could be firing its head coach. They lost
the Texans when they had a sixteen point.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Lead going into the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
They were able to handle business against the Los Angeles Chargers.
I will give them credit. Game In Duval found a
way to respond, found a way to beat up on
Justin Herbert, found a way to shut down that offense.
They needed overtime to beat the three win Arizona Cardinals,
and they kick the crap out of the worst team
in the NFL, arguably one of the worst teams I've
seen in the last twenty years.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
In Tennessee.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
You have matchups against the Colts twice, you have a
matchup against the Broncos, and the Jets are at least
gaining enough traction to where if you let them hang
around long enough, you're gonna drop a game. Jacksonviteam means
the odd team out. I refuse to believe that this team,
headlined by Trevor Lawrence, headlined by incompetence when it comes
to the overall defensive prowess. I refuse to believe that
this team is still gonna be in the hunt for
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the playoff. Indianapolis I think is going to sweep them.
It comes down to Houston Week eighteen, NRG Stadium. Who's
getting the division, who's being left out.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, I mean, you know you mentioned about them taking
on the Jets and then they've got to go to Denver.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
That's not going to be easy.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
You get the Colts again, and then I mean you
mentioned the Titans at that point. If you don't have
this thing wrapped up by week eighteen, if you're the Texans,
then I mean you're going to be in a sprint.
But I mean again, you know you talk about the
game that's coming up in Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I mean it's one of.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Those for the Texans that how poetic could it be that,
exactly as you said, you beat Kansas City, then they've
got to run the table to even have a chance
against you.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
And even at that point, it seems like it's not
going to be enough. Well even if it were, or
you ran the table.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
I mean, to me, what I look at in the
standpoint of head to head has to matter at some point,
and if it doesn't matter in the world of college football,
it certainly is gonna matter in the NFL, because if
they're gonna look at the records and say, comment, opponent,
you have a win over them, number two, you also
have a win over US. So if the Texans were
to finish ten and seven, which honestly may be enough
for them to get the seven seed, it may end
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up as being just enough. You should be to Arizona,
you should be Las Vegas, you should be I think
up on the Los Angeles Chargers.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
So that should be ten wins right there.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
If you win this one and you go eleven and
six or ten and seven, it guarantees you were in
over Kansas City because if you would have the head
head win, and I'd rather see that, Like, honestly, I
get it. People want to talk about winning the division.
I think the Texans very well still can. They got
an elite defense. I think the offense saw CJ. Stroud
break out a couple a little bit of the rest
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knew he was gonna have a kind of a shaky performance.
Offensive enough to survive. I still believe Texas could win
this division. I want to guarantee a playoff spot. The
best way to do so shut down Kansas City in
their backyard. Primetime Sunday Night football make Patrick Mahomes feel
like they see and goes like Stan Darnold.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Well, And the funny thing is too is you know,
for all the complaining about the AFC South, I mean
you look at like, say, the AFC North and I
threw it out on Thursday night when Cincinnati you just
went into Baltimore just absolutely crushed him. I was like,
does anybody actually want to win this division? Seriously? I
mean because even then yesterday you get you know, Buffalo
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and Pittsburgh. I mean Pittsburgh just they look like a
shell of who they were early on this season.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
It birk sucks. They look awful.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
And Aaron Rodgers, man, I mean, you want to talk
about a guy that's starting to look old, He's starting
to look.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Old, dude.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
There was a point in yesterday's game where it was
clear that you were watching it broken down. That was
my standpoint. I mean, he is quite literally fighting his
way through father time to say I will not go
out this way.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
And brother, it ain't pretty.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
You were part of a terrible offense, a defense that
can no longer bail you out of trouble. Josh Allen
did not have to have an elite game and he
still was able to hang well, was it twenty four
on you? Where your defense that has been the backbone
this team for years has been able to respond? Mike
Tollmins said, A best guys, I understand where frustration comes
on in like you think as a Texans fan, you
are frustrated because, oh, you're going ten to seven of
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a year. It's the Pittsburgh Steelers. They have more Super
Bowls than coaches in their entire tenure. They have not
won a playoff game in a decade.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
It's crazy to think seven one three, two, one two five,
seven ninety is the number to get in here on
the Morning Drive. We'll have a lot of Texans obviously,
there's a ton of college football to get to. The
Rockets too, can't not mention them after what they did
yesterday and they're gonna be right back again tonight. They're
in Utah, so we can get into all of that
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much more here as we're just getting going on a
Monday edition of The Morning Drive with Dan and Cole.
But coming up, has a corner been has a corner
been turned for the Texans? Well, the trend would say yes.
We'll discuss right here as we get going here on
a Monday, here Morning Drive with Dan and Cole, The.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Morning Drive with Dann and Cole on Sports Talk seven ninety,
home of the Strolls, Rockets and Houston's best sports talk.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
You know, maybe a couple of extra cups of coffee.
Whatever it is, hit us with them at Sports Talk
seven ninety at Dan Matthews, Hou is how you can
find me one t in Matthews and at mister Cole
Thompson is how you can find Cole on at Twitter too,
So get those in you could also happen too, is
part of your phone calls. So again some one three two,
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one two five seven ninety. So it's safe to say
it the Texans in one score games that a corner
has been turned, because the last four wins for you,
four straight, every single one of them one score games,
one score game against Jacksonville when you have to come
back from nineteen behind in that game. You win a
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one score game at Tennessee, not as good a game,
but still you found a.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Way to win.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
And then of course the Thursday night before yesterday in
Indianapolis against Buffalo twenty three to nineteen, and then yesterday,
I almost felt like yesterday was a make good for
the Jaguars game, because it really kind of felt like
the first Jags game, not the second one. Second one,
obviously I gave you the breakdown of how that went,
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but the first one in Jacksonville, where it was the
prototypical hey, we're giving you the game, take the game,
like win this game. No no, no, no, no no no, I
think we want you guys to win it. That was
the Texans yesterday. Whether it be from penalties, whether it
be from just a lack of offensive execution, any of those
things we could very easily right now cole be talking
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about a team that's now six and six as opposed
to seven and five after that one.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Yes, they have turned the corner in terms of winning
one score games. They have not turned the corner in
terms of believing that this team is anything more than
just a playoff bound roster.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Sorry, that's that's where I'm at.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Because again, we can talk about the positives here, which
is Texans won a football game, keep their playoff hops alive,
keep the division hopes alive. You saw enough in the
offense to be able to get the job done. But
I brought this up earlier. Not a defensive performance that
you're looking at and saying, what a what a game like?
I would like you look at josh Allen Gains the
Buffalo Bills game. Eight sacks on the day, seven sacks
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in the second half. You add three incredible turnovers this game.
One sack Sheldon Rankins get him out of the end
zone for the most part, give up a few explosive
plays to Alec Pierce. You have a few big time shots.
Soundfield Tyler Warren Daan Jones found the end zone twice.
You got a critical stop on fourth down by Derek
Stingley Junior against Michael Pittman Junior.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
That was all she wrote.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
It's a good way to say, look, we know that
we didn't have our a ball and yet still won
the game. But when you get into the playoffs, it
still feels like this is a team that when they
face off against the number one seed, there's gonna be
a clear indication on why they are just winning the division,
hosting a playoff game, getting a win over a wild
card team, and coming up short once again.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So like, yeah, you can say this team.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Has turned the corner to be able to now put
themselves right back in the conversation of being a legit
threat to win the AFC South, but nothing has changed
in terms of where they are in the stratosphere of
the pecking order of names that we look at in
the AFC is favorites to win the whole damn thing. Like,
That's where I'm at with it. And it may come
off as again very much a mundane take or very
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much a oh well, you just don't want to go
ahead and believe that the Textans. Guys, Texans have shown
me exactly who they are once again.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
They trust their defense.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
They're told telling us that their offense can get to
twenty points twenty bare be enough for you to win well.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
And that's the thing too, is I mean, you know,
it's one of those that when you win, you're much
more willing to listen to things that we heard out
of CJ. Stroud and everybody else afterwards of you know, J. Stroud, Oh,
you know, the offense, we're making improvements, we're getting better
all of these things, and it's just kind of like,
what does that necessarily look like though, I mean, because
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from what we can see, it's still very much a
white knuckle this thing. And try to find a way
to be able to get into the end zone because
none of them are easy. I mean I even threw
it out there when Nico Collins got pushed out of
bounds there at the five, or he stepped out when
he thought that maybe he had a chance to run
it into the end zone. Before you get the Nick
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Chubb touchdown run that I mean right there at the five,
You're like, what's some of the scariest things to hear
here in local sports?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Red zone offense, Texans have the football at the opponent's five.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Red zone offense just as the same red zone offense.
So you're good at the one, be at the seventeen,
be at the five, doesn't matter, red zone offense. It's
horrifying they still not being able to figure it out
found the right in the end zone yesterday twice when
it came to Nico Collins and the Nick Chubb. I
will give credit recruits to offensively, even with CJ. Stroud
kind of breaking in with breaking off the rust a
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little bit, if you're in your sixty four yards, did enough,
did enough in that standpoint to feel really confident that, hey,
our offense was able to respond in a way to
where we need them to. Defensively, again, you did what
you had to do. I mean, Dan, you and I
talked about all last week. Say it until you blew
in the face. You need to stop Jonathan Taylor. That
is the way to shut down Indianapolis. Eighty five yards
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twenty one carries under three point five yards of play,
they said, Daniel Jones, bus through the air. Okay, Battle'll
throw two touchdown passes. I'll get stopped on fourth down
in the.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Fourth quarter and then have Michael Badgeley, which, by the way,
I mean, is there anything more satisfying than hearing the
doink noise?
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I think that that is the second That's the third
best thing in the NFL. Number one is fatman touchdowns.
Number two is a safety. Number three is the doink.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I will die. I love the doink.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
And it was one of those two like as soon
as it happened, and then like it even caught like
iron Eagle by surprise, like he was like.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Hey, it's a dink, it's off the lift, it's upright.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
What's funny, though, is that this is the second straight
game where because of a point you are now in
the you are now in a four point lead to
where you have to go for the touchdown, because think
about how much your game plan changes last week if
you're Buffalo, if Matt Prater doesn't miss that Pat, think
about what happens if Michael Badgley doesn't miss that Pat
and the alec Pears touchdown.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Sometimes it's those small things though, that can help you out.
And the Texans getting just enough fortune yesterday in this one,
and oh by the way too, I mean, you know,
we always talk about fan based twitters. Colts Twitter was
was all all about you guys.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Didn't really win this game. The referees won it for you.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Is the DWave that's screwed that sings this is our
Colts every single week was see you losing his mind yesterday.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I don't think it was him, but you did have
a lot of people who have horseshoes or pictures of
you know, Carly ersay on on on their their Twitter account.
You had a lot of that coming at you. But
I mean, you know, I mean it's it's not to
say that the Texans didn't do their fair share too
of helping out the opponent. I mean that's the thing is,
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you know, with the penalties. I mean, it's it's the
same thing over and over again, where you've got illegal
motions or you've got pre snap penalties, any of these
things that you're just like kind of like, come on, guys,
it's week thirteen, Like, are we really doing this in
week thirteen?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, because that's who the Texans are.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
And this time next season what we will see is
a new version of the offensive line.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Come on in.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
I think Cole Povitz will Sill be your offensive line coach,
but you're gonna see them bring in two or three
new names, and we're gonna have to have this whole
conversation once again about where are we when it comes
to this offensive personnel, Like, that's is what it is.
It's week thirteen, Dan, at this point, this is who
the Texans offensive line is. It's gotten better, it still
has its faults, it still is going to have careless
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penalties at the worst times possible. Guess what, you gotta
live with the punches because they're not changing. It's like
at some point you got to ask youruff, Oh, this
is where our team comes together. No, this is what
your team is. This is who you are as an
offense figure. You're out a way to work around and
to be able to guarantee that you find ways to win.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
And that's seemingly.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Where most of the uh, most of the penalties happen too,
is on the offensive end. I mean, because you would
think defensively you're going to get a you know, illegal
hands at a face, so you're gonna get in uh,
you know, uh whatever illegal contact or whatever it is.
You know, some of those five yards a holding here
and there, you don't really have a ton of them
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on the defensive end.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
You have nothing on the defensive side, like you'll get
one pass interference call a game by somebody, whether it
be Kamari Loster, Klen Ballock or Derek Singley junior, and
outside that it's pretty much for the majority of the
game all off its penalties.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yeah, so hopefully, I mean it's again a huge hope
because we've been saying this for the better part of
the last couple of years.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
That can be cleaned up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
But again, it doesn't seem like that is a trend
that is going to be going in the Texans direction.
Apparently we're huge with Rogers this morning, So we got
two guys named Roger on hold you.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Want to join them?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
There seveone three two one two five seven ninety against
someone three to two one two five seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Which one you think is it gonna answer? Ask the
better question?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
You're gonna have Roger and Harlington. You gonna go with
Roger without a location. I'll go with one A and
one B.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
How about that.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I understand that, you know, I usually say pick a
side here, but I think that both of them have
a chance to bring the heat this morning, so I
like to.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
It's gonna be the better It is gonna be the
better question. I don't. I'm not gonna reveal who I have.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Is one A?
Speaker 6 (22:25):
One?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (22:26):
All right?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
The way fair? So the expectations are there, Rogers, It's
all there for you.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
And even if your name is not Roger again, seven
one three two one two five seven ninety is the
way to get in.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Let's get a third Roger.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
Come on?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Okay, yeah, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Even if you have a D in there, like you know,
Roger the Dodger, you know, even even if you have
that as part of your name, please, or even if
your last name is Rogers, you know, you could even
throw that in there. But we'll continue the Texans conversation
because the magic number was hit.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
What exactly is that magic number?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
We will discussed here as we continue on the morning
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Speaker 7 (24:09):
Hey, it's Hunt Broschevy Ashs game on Sports Talk seven
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Speaker 3 (24:20):
seOne three two on two five seven ninety is the
number two get in. We'll go with Roger in. Harlingen
wants to weigh in. Roger, good morning, how.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
Are you doing? Guys? Love your show? Been paying attention
to who has the best question? Okay, first of all,
I was a good win yesterday, and I know where
you're coming from about just making the playoffs and et cetera.
But here's my question about the game within the game.
When does the league decide or when do the coaches
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decide to put players in there that are injured? And
I'm speaking a specifically the Indianapolis coast. Did you see
that guy out there? What's his name?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Jones?
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Daniel Dimees? Yeah, man, that was terrible. I mean, first
of all, I love the players and I love everything.
But it's a product, correct. They have to go out
there and produce, They have to bring in the fans,
et cetera. But who decides not just the player, But
there was another one there was like, what's his name
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Aaron Rodgers for example. I mean, who decides on these
players' careers and et cetera. I hope that's a good question. Guys,
love your show, and it's a not a lot about
the Houston Texas, it's about the league. Also, thanks a lot, guys, yep.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I appreciate it, Roger. I mean I think a lot
of it is. You know, it's it's up to the player,
you know, what's your pain tolerance. But I mean, we
even had the report before the game last week that
Daniel Jones was banged up.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
He's playing with a fractured fibula.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Trying to go ahead and salvage a season your ears
the bottom line, dude, He's doing it for two reasons.
Number one, wants concert extension. Wants to be able to
say I'm the quarterback long term here. Number Two, Indian Applis,
where do you go? I mean, remember, guys, they trade
away both first round picks in next year's draft in
twenty twenty seven to land Sauce Gardner. Sauce Carter got
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hurt in yesterday's game with a calf injury. You know
anything about calf injuries, It's like a snowflake. There's not
one that is the exact same as the other. He
could be out for a week, he could be out
for the rest of the season. He could be done
until the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
We don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
So Daniel Jones is the best option you have at quarterback.
He's trying to guarantee that he is back next season
on a long term deal.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
He's playing through freaking pain, and honestly, he had a
decent day yesterday. Didn't wasn't a.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Lead by any means, had two really, really really bad throws,
could have been intercepted twice. Ball hung in the air
a little bit too long for Kamario Lost to make
a play on it. Good fourth out stopic Derek Singley Junior,
But he found the end zone twice.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Is he want to make enough playing? Indianapolis needs Daniel Jones.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I never thought I would say that Indianapolis needs Daniel
Jones to win and make it to the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Riley Leonard would be who they would turn to if
you had to go to the backup route because Jones
wasn't healthy enough to be able to go. And well,
if you want to have your season's hopes hinge on
a rookie sixth round pick, well then Riley Leonard's your guy.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
You mean a guy who also averaged less than one
hundred passing yards in college and has no past tempts
in the NFL outside everything one like, yeah, I mean,
good good luck guys, good luck any race where. This
has become one of the more intriguing divisions in the NFL,
because if you have the Texan surgeon at the right time,
Jacksonville still is able to survive with like its fourteenth
life in Indianapolis is having an MVP running gay.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
As I mentioned, dire straits right now in Indianapolis. But
another thing that I always mentioned, that's their problem. Let's
go with the other Roger who wants to wait in
good morning? Roger, how you doing good morning?
Speaker 9 (27:56):
Hoping up the door? You can work over here. So
I don't really have a question, but if I had to,
I guess I can put it into the form of
a questions on one of these thoughts that I have. Uh, yeah,
we kind of stap the game there. That could have
went the other way very easily.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
You know.
Speaker 9 (28:14):
Uh, I'm gonna say Stroud Shroud did you know did
knock off the Russ But he made two throws that
you should not be making, uh with a with a
quarterbacks of that much experience. Uh and uh, I just
do Lucky's part of the game too, So yeah, I
just shocked it off to that. My my thing is
when we go to Kansas City, we have a chance
to do something that we've never done. We can knock
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them out of the playoffs, and and and and Kansas
City is as gettable as they're ever going to be.
So my thing is, which which told do we not
burn off till we can escape so we can escape
with a win over there, because our coaching decisions are
becoming very questionable. Uh with that film go and that
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double tush push. I mean, these are kind of things
that will lose your game. And if you're playing the
teams like Kansas City open up and over there in case,
so I'm thinking about which fascet to The defense is
always going to be there. You don't have to worry
about that. And this defense does deserve a better faith.
Uh so we we we can do a lot of things,
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go to k C and and and and putting them
down for good. My thing is which one do we
need for which one do we need the most? Do
we need the coach?
Speaker 6 (29:26):
I know, we I know.
Speaker 9 (29:27):
It's just it's a choice one or the others. Which
one do we need? Do we need better coaching or
do we need sid to have?
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Right?
Speaker 9 (29:34):
Really, the A plus game out there, and and and
and get this over the get us over the hump
and put us at eighty five. That's what the only
thing I have, you know.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
Uh, yeah, it was.
Speaker 9 (29:42):
It was a great win, double win for Houston. You know,
rockets rocketson Texas. That's always a good thing. Guys, fellas,
stay dry, enjoy Munday.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah, saying to you Roger, appreciate it. I would say
that coaching, but there's very few coaches in this league.
They're gonna have coach Andy Reid now, So it comes
down to CJ. Shroud.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Also, remind yourself, it's not any read after a bye,
but it's any read with longer than a week to
mentally prepare for this game.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Because they played on Thursday. So that's another thing.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
You got to add on in for me what this
really is. And I think Roger brought up a really
good point. Rogers said that the defense didn't have its
best day. The defense at this point has earned the
right to have a mulligan. The defense at this point
has been the backbone of your team for the last
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ten weeks. The reason why you were sitting at seven
and five is because your defense is delivered. And they
gave up two touchdowns and you needed CJ.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Strouding.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
You need the passing attacking, You need Nick Keayley with
the play designs to be able to kind of bail
you out of trouble. The defense earned a mulligan. They
got their mulligan yesterday against Indianapolis. They were able to
get a critical fourth down stop. They were able to
go ahead and ice the game with the Woody Marks
run at the end. You need your defense to play
better against Patrick Mahomes. You got to force some turnovers,
you gotta get some pressures. Here's the other thing, Dan,
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They got one sack yesterday against an offensive line that
had been meddling. They gave up thirteen sacks in the
month of November, the most that a team has this year.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I'm going to be.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Really intrigued to see how does Kansas City prepare for
daneil Hunter and for Willy Anderson and the passers that
you have coming up the inside with no Josh Simmons
and another backup quarter I mean another backup tackle on
the right side. So there's a really good game plan
for Houston because of the defense, how well it's been,
how much it's been attacking, how much it's gone after.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Good quarterbacks this season.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
For them to be able to basically shut down Patrick
Mahomes and force the defense to shut down c J.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Shaw on the opposing side, the defense has to step
on up. I think the next game.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Well, I mean, I understand in those turnovers yesterday, but
holding the Colts to three for twelve combined on third
and fourth down not bad. Nope, three of ten on
third zero for two on four of them. So I mean,
I guess in that sense with the fourth downs, you're
able to get them off the fields.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
So that's nice to see.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
I'm nitpicking here again. It was under three hundred yard performance.
You only gave up fourteen points through the year. You
held them to one extra field goal. I mean like
you did your job. I'm the same from what we're
so accustomed to seeing with the Texans, turnover prone, multiple
sack game by Will Anderson Junior, stuff like that. It
wasn't the game that we're so accustom of watching here
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in Houston. Doesn't mean it was a terrible performance.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
It was that standards thing. Yeah, that's standards. You know,
you hear that word a lot now, the standard. In
this case, they had a.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
B minus performance, and B minus was good enough to
get the job done on a Sunday.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
That's it. Four point win is what it earns you.
As the Texans now seven to five on this season.
We'll continue the conversation one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
We just mentioned, CJ.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Stroud, what do we give the performance yesterday there in
Indy will discuss that as he plays his first game
in over three weeks. We will continue here on the
Morning Drive with Dan and Cole.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Right here when you're home with the Astros and the
Rockets Sports Talk seven to.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Ninety, they are on Morning Drive. Here's Dan Matthews and
Cold Thompson. And then you know, just am I spending
every day on ice because that's the thing. You gotta
fill the whole thing up in ice.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Hey, why don't we have an ice maker like you know,
like you see at convenience stores. Don't ask questions, all right,
don't ask questions. Sat out of your house right now.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Just go put on. That's it.
Speaker 7 (33:24):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
One of those that's gonna cost you fifth that's gonna
cost you five thousand dollars just right there. But hell,
you get your ice bath every morning.
Speaker 10 (33:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I was gonna say, you know, get that, get that
release to start the day.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
But the way, I hate the cold shower conversation because
I I don't think that you that that it ends
up doing anything for you.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Me farceling Richard Macowitz the former Navy seal who unfortunately
is no longer with us, but he once set on
the gym Rome show that it it.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
It forged a toughness groove in his brain where he would.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Wake up at four am and take a cold shower
to be able to uh toughen himself up for the day.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
I just feel like that sucks either way because once
you once you get out, you're freezing your ass off.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
That's the problem.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Oh, I mean, that's kind of the whole point. It's
about being uncomfortable and then you know, being able to
get into it from there. But anyway, the Texans made
the Colts uncomfortable yesterday twenty to sixteen, when they're in Indianapolis.
They're seven to five now in the season, Rockets with
a nice win over the Jazz one twenty nine one
oh one, and h Lane Kiffin, new head coach at
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lsu as I said in the seven o'clock hour, we'll
get into a little bit of the college football from
not only the national landscape but also to locally, because
you had a good one on Friday night in Austin.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
At least for the Longhorns, not so much for the Aggies.
So we'll have all that there.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
But seven one three two one two five seven ninety
is the number. Continuing the Texans conversation here C J.
Stroud yesterday C minus. Wouldn't we go maybe about C
minus with him? See again twenty two of thirty five.
He throws an interception, but two hundred and seventy six
yards and he has just enough of a run game
to be able to help him out in this one.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
See I will go straight see in this game number one,
he hasn't played in nearly a month. I will give
you the benefit of the doubt in that one. You
were able to put the You were able to put
the Texans inside the red zone twice. You scored on
both instances. You were able to get Cayami Fairburn in
field goal range he went to for two. You had
three awful throws, including the Xavier Hutcheson touchdown. I mean
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the Xavier Houchison pick like that was just malpractice. That's
an excuseable even though you are coming off of having
missing the last near month of play. That's a veteran
move that you should be better at. But there were
also some things that you were very limited on. First half,
you could run the football to save your life. At
one point you didn't know if what he marks was
going to come back in the game. You had two
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really bad drop calls. You had four really horrendous play
designs going into halftime. The again, you go right to
the very last drive, one fifty one left on the clock,
two timeouts. Nobody has any idea of what the what
you thought you were going to be. Nobody had any
idea what Nico I mean, what Demiko Ryan. But Nick
Kaylee was doing not even a little bit. It was
as weird as all hell on what you just out
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on that one, and yet still you were able to
do just enough to go ahead and drive. You made
the right reads on the final drive, you hand off
the ball, you didn't fumble it, what he marks, goes
ahead and gets the first down.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
You ice the game. I just see again? Did I
want to see more? Absolutely? Am I okay with CJ.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Stroud having an underwhelming performance in his first game back
and over a month.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, I'm okay with it. I mean it's like a
group project.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I mean, you're gonna have somebody that puts in a
little bit more leg work than everybody else. And I'm
not saying that it's not you know, it's it's an
issue of effort. But I mean with CJ, the expectations
are pretty simple. I don't need A plus work out
of you every single week. I don't even need B
minus workout of you. You give me C level work.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
That's fine. I can win with that.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
I mean I would rather say you would have B
minus work like just personally, because again I'd rather have
a better passing grade overall. But again, when you look
at the team right now, defensively, you're always baling yourself
out of trouble. You're always going to be able to
put pressure on quarterbacks to make mental mistakes. On top
of all that, Dan, the other thing that's really important
to here is that we finally got to see a
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little bit of the trickery of Nick Cayley with the
play designs inside the red zone, calling a seven yard
run with jet sweep and the turner, I mean, with
the end around to Nico Collins to get your way
on in pretty smart playing. Caught everybody off guard, nearly
caught the Cayminger ran off guard too. I'll take that
because if you want to what it shows that you're
being innovative and you're trying to go.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Ahead and take the risk of guarantee the win.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Seven one three, two, one two five, seven ninety is
the number to get in. Let's go to my hometown,
bell Air. Jordan wants to wag in. Good morning Jordan,
of course, the morning guys.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
Thanks, I appreciate the show.
Speaker 11 (37:41):
Thanks, I appreciate the technis credit detectants from winning in
spite of Tomiko's more of a play calling or Nick
Kayla's horrible play calling and Dimiko's terrible clot management, explain
to me what was going on in the last minute
of the second quarter.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Please, dude, I have no idea. I mean, listen, listen.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
When you have a three time defensive Player of the
Year in JJ Watt telling you, I have no idea
what this team is doing. Why are you not calling timeouts? Dude,
there's thirty seconds coming off the clock. Call a timeout,
Call play. Get to the line of screamage faster. When
you have him saying this out loud, that is the
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ultimate sign of nobody has any idea what's going on.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
It is just blank behind the canvas. Nobody is steering
the ship. End of the night. You quite literally are
playing on a winging up prayer at this point.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Well, I mean, and my whole thing is with timeouts,
Like why keep them? It's not like you get to
carry them over and you're getting the ball to start
the second half too, So like, why not give yourself
every single opportunity to not only increase your lead, but
then to also give yourself a chance of maybe you
can go two for one right there.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Dan, just like go a little bit further.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
They got a first down, They got a first down
conversion with one ten left on the clock. Their next
play got off at forty five. They took thirty five
seconds off the clock, and then after nine seconds with
the football finally called a timeout, they got another first
down with two seconds left on the clock, and then
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they said, oh, you know what, now we're gonna call
a timeout. Oh we're gonna let Indy call timeout, and
we're gonna think about going in sending out Cayami Fairban.
Now you know what was gonna throw downfield? Like that's
just it, Like constantly you're watching as this team had
no motion. And I'm sorry if I'm gonna give a
lot of disrespect to CJ. Stroud and say that you
got to play better when making some throws in the
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first half and not have that batting reception by Cameron
bid them because you're a veteran quarterback.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
To me, go, this is not your first year as
a head coach.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
This is not your first rodeo playing in a matchup
against a division opponent that could end up winning the
whole dang thing. You've been in this situation before. You
should know how to handle a two minute offense because
you've done it, and you can't use the excuse of oh, well,
you know what we have the ball coming out of halftime, Well,
why not go ahead and build a ten point lead
versus having a three point lead. Why not go into
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the halftime feeling pretty confident that your offense is doing
just enough to guarantee you get another Kayami fairmanfield goal to.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Make it a seven point swing instead of a four
point swing.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
Like just bad coaching mistakes throughout the afternoon really kind
of newly came back to bite Houston and the keyster.
Thankfully you were able to get a big stop by
Derek Singley Junior. You got a big conversion by what
he marks in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
No getting bitten the keysterer. You don't want any of
those things. That's what you want to avoid times. Oh
that's that's fine, that's fine. We we got the point.
But anyway, we'll continue that Texans conversation. You want to
get in on at seven one three, two, one two five,
seven ninety is the number to get in.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
The campaigning has begun for this.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Local coach, and we will discuss that right here as
we get into the seven o'clock hour here on the
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This is the Morning Drive with Dad and Cole, and.
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We're talking about him right now, Texas Longhorns over Texas
and them twenty seven seventeen on Friday nights and immediately
after it's happened. I mean, Cole, remember a few weeks
ago where you had Steve Sarkisian after they lost to
Florida talking about you know, one hundred and something other teams. Well,
you know, I'd like to see them go to you
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go to Columbus and then go to Gainesville and see
how they do. And people were like, you know, ow,
you know, making excuses, it just everything that was being
thrown against Steve Sarkisian. But shortly afterwards, because I think
I had a little bit of the same reaction most
people had. But then I was like, wait a minute,
you guys are missing the point here. He's already greasing
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the wheels for knowing that probably between Oklahoma and Georgia
he's losing one of those two games, right and even
the A and M game where it was like, if
we're nine and three, I'm gonna have to put my
campaigning shoes on.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Well, he started that well before he even had a campaign,
because think about it, dude, Like they were coming into
the Red River shootout at three and two, they could
have just ran the table afterwards being Oklahoma beaten Georgia
beaten Texas A and M, and.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
They would have had a shot.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
They would have easily with that resume of what they
would have had with a lost to a bad Florida team,
but also the number one team in the country. Nobody's
keeping you out. That's arguably the best resume in college football.
At ten and two, you still have an opportunity to
go to Atlanta and play for an SEC title that season,
even with all the faults that he had early on
in the season. So yeah, the campaigning I think really
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started after that loss in Gainesville because if he realized
I had a game where I probably should have won,
found a way to screw it on up.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Now, I got to make sure that there's no margin
for era.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
But if we do mess up at some point, I
got to flip the narrative to where people are paying
attention to us.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
For all the right right reasons, and the campaigning continued
on the field afterwards with ABC, here was Texas he
coach Steve Sarkisian.
Speaker 12 (43:19):
Can you tell me that team's undefeated, number three in
the country. A lot of the pundits out there think
they're the number.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
One team in the country. We just beat them by ten.
What kind of statement do you think that made to
the committee?
Speaker 12 (43:29):
Well, I think this if you really look at the
body of work, and you look at the Southeastern Conference
of what we have to go through every week, if
you look at the non conference schedule. We played to
go to Ohio State in Week one and lose by seven,
when we outgained them by nearly two hundred yards. We
got a really good football team, and it'd be a
disservice to our sport if this team's not a playoff team.
When we went to scheduled that non conference game, because
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if we're a ten to two team, it's not a question,
but we were willing to go play that game.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
So is that what college football is about? Don't play
anybody and just have.
Speaker 12 (43:59):
A good record, play the beast, and put the best
teams in the playoff and.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
We're one of the best teams. I always love that.
Is this what we're really about?
Speaker 3 (44:07):
I mean, that's a lot of that is a hat
tip to his former boss, because remember Nick Saban had,
you know, turn it into free agency.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Is this what we want the game to be?
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yeah, I mean that's it. It is always funny to
hear the former Saban guys sound like him. But I mean,
at least some of the points he brought up valid.
I mean about the three top ten wins, all three
of them, well two of them at home. You get
the one on Friday Night, you get the Vanderbilt one
about a month ago, and then of course you beat
Oklahoma and Dallas. But that can't be underscored. Here is
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the Achilles heel is. I get the the loss at
at Ohio State, that's fine, But then how many wins
that Florida.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Have this year?
Speaker 6 (44:46):
Four?
Speaker 13 (44:47):
Four?
Speaker 3 (44:48):
You lost to four wins. You were one of the
four wins to Florida in that one. That's a massive
ding against you. The other massive ding is I get it,
it was at their place. You were not competitive against Georgia. Nope,
not even close. So I mean, yeah, he does have
a valid point about Hey, we took a chance and
we swung and miss with the Ohio State loss, and yeah,
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they're ten and two right now, they're safely in.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
There's no problem. I get all of that. But at
the same time, though too, those two losses bad bad.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
I will go a step further and actually defend Texas
in one standpoint, there are ten and two teams that
currently are in the College Football playoff hunt or in
the playoff right now that I do not believe have
a resume and have looked as polished as Texas has
to close out the season. I will stand on that
Texas has three of the most desperate I mean, has
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three of the most detrimental, no questions asked.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
We are a legit force to win a national title.
Speaker 4 (45:48):
Victories this season Texas A and m Oklahoma Vanderbilt, who
even when they were able to come on back. Guys,
they were up by three scores going into the final
twelve minutes of the game. They handled business against Vanderbilt.
They did their due diligence. They belong in the College
Football Playoff if we're just talking about the quality of wins.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Just on that standpoint, that is a fact. Dan Matthews
here is the other fact.
Speaker 4 (46:15):
You were out gained by one hundred yards and lost
the time of possession by eleven minutes, and the turnover
battle to a team that fired its head coach two
weeks after beating you. Then you have an opportunity to
show on up in the game against Georgia. And I
know what people are gonna say, Well, it was fourteen
to ten going into the fourth quarter. Well, Dan, it
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was fourteen ten going into the fourth quarter. They could
have had the job done. Guys, look at the numbers.
Wasn't close. Texas did nothing offensively in that game outside
of one touchdown pass in the third quarter. Kirby Smart
comes on out, they get a touchdown to start the
fourth quarter, they get the on side kick, Momentum leaves
immediately the locker, the Longhorn side goes all over to Georgia.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
You lose by twenty five, lost by seven seven.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
I still would consider the long horns of college football
playoff team. You can't lose by twenty five on national
television on the road and then lose to a four
win Florida team and be sticking out your chest and
acting like we belong in the conversation and the reason
why think that we even are having this conversation is
because of you did schedule a tough opponent in Ohio
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State Week one. If you scheduled a cupcake and you
ended up losing to Florida, you still have an argument
to whar hey if you looked as bad as you
did against other teams, and let's just say that it
wasn't a Florida, Let's say you lost in Red River
to Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Oklahoma now has that one over you. Well, guess what.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
Now you're sitting at the eleven spot this season alone,
it's been abundantly clear in the College Football Playoff you've
got to be in the top ten to guarantee your
spot because we got to give a team. We gotta
give a representation to either the AAC or the ACC and.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
The other group of five school. So you got to
be in the top ten. You may not have had that.
Speaker 4 (47:54):
And the part that you're really annoying with all this
when it comes to Texas is that you're acting like, oh, well,
we had to schedule a tough non conference game. Brother,
you play in the SEC. You play in the toughest
conference in college football. Let me remind you of something
South Carolina finished the year four and eight.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Two.
Speaker 4 (48:12):
They nearly dismantled Texas A and M. You want to
know why, because even the bad teams in the SEC,
when they show on up, they are going to be
able to beat the good teams on any given Saturday
if you do not deliver your A play A plus punch.
Oh and if that's not enough, Dan, you nearly lost
in Mississippi State. You need a fourth quarter comeback to
win that one. In overtime. You nearly lost to Kentucky,
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who fired Mark Soops this morning after needing an overtime
winning that matchup.
Speaker 7 (48:38):
Two.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yeah, I mean, and that's the part that I don't
think is being talked about enough. Is it's not like
this has been an impressive nine to three season. I mean,
there are a lot of games that looked at with
them and you're just like, man, like, you know, what
is it with this group? But I mean, I'll give
them credit for Friday night, You've been looking at that
offensive line and saying, hey, is this group ever gonna
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find a way? And they did, and I mean they
put together their best performance at the right time. But
it's just the problem. I mean, you mentioned it even
the wins, a lot of them just unimpressive. I mean,
even after you lost that game the Ohio State, you
come back home a jo hum game against San Jose,
a terrible game that if UTEP was any better, you
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probably lose that game to them. And then of course,
you know, you had to see him Houston game and
everybody's like, oh, the offense looks great, arch is great.
We finally got this going in the right direction, and
you didn't because in the following week you went to
Florida and you lost.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
Dude, I'll tell you right now, though, if they showed
up the way that they did against Texas A and
M versus Florida, they win that game. If they showed
up the way that they did against Texas A and
M at Georgia, they make it a four quarter battle.
They quite literally look at the scoreboard and it's fourteen
to ten. Because if it is an intense battle, all
the things that I thought I knew about Texas A
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and M going into this game, better offensive line, better
rushing attack, more explosive plays with the wide receivers.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
It was all in favor of Texas.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Like all the little things that you want to see
for this team that showed on up and that version
of Texas is good enough to be in the College
Football Playoff. But you can't just show up in that game.
You have to show up in the one in Lexington.
You had to show up in the one in Stark Film.
And by the way, all the people who were saying, well,
Texas A and M, who have they scheduled? Who have
they played off against last this season? That's such a
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daunting task. Guys, do you not remember we were having
the same conversation last year about Texas, like, oh, you
had to face off against Missippi State, didn't have a
winning conference play.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Oh, you had to show up against Kentucky. Look at
how easy that was for you.
Speaker 4 (50:36):
They had one winning conference play against Ole miss Oh,
you had to show up against this team, that team, Oh,
all these teams that struggled. You played one team that
finished with the record above five hundred in the SEC
last year, and we crowned you the next big time
force in the SEC, which, by the way, I think that.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Steve Starkeishan will do that.
Speaker 4 (50:53):
To think about this, Dan, it's a down year of
Texas with three top ten wins, Like, there's worse places
to be in considering a down offseason, and it's clear
that Arch Manning is the quarterback as advertised.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
He just didn't show up in week one.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
In Week five, he showed up the rest of the season,
got a good offseason to go ahead and build around him.
Texas is gonna be fine. They'll be right back in
the hut this year. But there wasn't enough chaos on
Saturday for you to be able to back to your
way on in. You showed up miserably against Mississippi State
and Kentucky in wins. You didn't show up in Gainesville,
you didn't show up in Athens. That's why you're out
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of the college football playoff, not because of your lost
to Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
Yeah, Ohio State did help you out in beating Michigan,
so I mean that that gave you a chance. But
then I mean, Oklahoma holding on the win that hurts you?
Know what was it another one to Notre Dame winning
that that hurts you. I mean, there were a handful
of games that you could look at and say, man,
you know, I would say that probably if you had
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three losses from either of those teams this weekend, then
right now we're talking about Texas being a top ten
team and probably fine in their way.
Speaker 4 (51:59):
You would have needed and Alabama to lose, Utah to lose,
BYU to lose, Miami to lose, Vanderbilt to lose, and
probably No a Day to lose to guarantee you're in
the top ten. Because I will say, if we're talking
about a three lost team, Texas is the one team
that you can consider to be a college football playoff
mat I fully and convinced about that one. But not
enough chaos, not enough traction, not enough I would say
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moments throughout the year to where you could guarantee this
is what we're gonna expect. Because again that's the other
part is that you didn't show up in certain games.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Guess what happened.
Speaker 4 (52:28):
Now people are are nitpicking your overall schedule in the
overall on field play.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
All right, So Lane Kiffin makes the move and did
els you finally get it right? We'll discuss that right
here as we get into the seven o'clock hour on
the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
Right here Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (52:47):
Back to the Morning Drive. Here's Dan Matthews and Cole Thompson.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
I think we did when you know because both me
and you, before you know, sitting in these chairs full time.
We had both spent time with the the A team.
I was their producer, then you took over after I
came here, and now Joshua Jordan on with them. But
I believe that Clinton was taken aback when he was
like he's never had a cup of coffee before.
Speaker 4 (53:16):
Nope, I still and I found that out on my
very last week because I was wondering as both of
us came in from Thursday night football on very little sleep,
staying up in the press box until two in the morning. Hey,
how are you functioning today? You know, just a nice
gold class of water, bro, What the hell like I mean?
And apparently this is just like normal functioning back. So
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can't wait to hear what he has to say about
the entire situation. I wonder if he's going to be
like me and say, listen, Texan's good Win. Still got
a lot of things to fix if you want to
be a Super Bowl contender, Sorry, you just.
Speaker 7 (53:45):
Have to do that.
Speaker 3 (53:46):
Yeah, and we'll continue the Texans conversation here too, if
you want to get in on that. SEB one three,
two one two five seven ninety. But of course, the
story that was overriding all of sports yesterday was an
exit for Oxford, Mississippi in a landing in Baton Rouge, Louisiana,
as Lane Kiffen decides that LSU is his next spot.
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And you had it all yesterday, I mean, of all
the things that we've seen. And it's not like Lane
is unfamiliar with this because when he left Tennessee in
two thousand and nine, it was damn near a riot
there in Knoxville.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
When he decided to go.
Speaker 4 (54:23):
To damn near right there was a riot, so they
were looking mattresses on fire and they tried to burn
down Rocky Top.
Speaker 3 (54:30):
So he had all of that and you know, painting
the rock, doing all of that kind of stuff. Then yesterday,
I mean, it was rife with everything. There were reports
that he's giving his staff ultimatums of hey, be at
the plane at this time, and if you're not, then
I assume that you're not coming to Baton Rouge with us,
which he did tell Marty Smith that wasn't the case.
That you know, he didn't have any of those things.
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And I think that there's even been subsequent reports afterwards
that like some of the guys might stick around, and
even some of the guys that went or are still
planning on coaching team during the playoff. But you know,
so he gets there, you get him leaving the airport.
You got LSU fans out there, you know, channing, you
know LSU LSU as he's as he's driving out and
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he's meeting with recruits. I mean almost kind of doing
like you know how in the Vatican the Pope will
go to the to the terrorists right there and everybody's like,
oh my god, it's the Pope. Did you notice that
Lane was kind of doing that out of his office
and you had some LSU fans out there, many.
Speaker 4 (55:27):
People losing their mind yesterday and bat Rugen also in Oxford, Mississippi.
And the reason that we talked about this is we
here at Sports Talk seven ninety are the home for
the LSU Tigers.
Speaker 2 (55:35):
If you want to listen, I'm.
Speaker 4 (55:37):
Gonna say this, Dan must say this as kindly as possible.
There's a lot of people that want to listen in
on this conversation about what is this supposed to be?
This is a slam dunk, no questions asked, home run
higher by LSU, far and away, new athletic director. A
month ago, you had no idea if you were even
going to be able to get out of this contract
with Brian Kelly. You have Jeff Landry making a mockery
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of the stale Louisiana it is. It is so much
toxicity in the state and you still found a way
to land the best person possible for the job. With
that being said, Lane, I have a mets about respect
for what you were able to accomplish at Ole Miss.
Speaker 2 (56:21):
You are kidding yourself. It is comical.
Speaker 4 (56:25):
It is absolutely a laughable offense to think that you
can be the head coach at LSU and coach the
Ole Miss Rebels. It's a breach of contract and it's
a breach of interest. In no way, shape or form.
Could you say I am taking the money. I am
running on over to Baton Rouge. I am going to
be content now taking over a program that is known
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for winning national titles. But I'm must stick around here
for another month. Go ahead and tell the players that
I want to come with me to Louisiana. Hey, it
doesn't matter what we do in the playoff here, We're
just gonna go ahead and win it next season when
we go out to LSU. So congratulations, Lane, I completely
understand you may the right call. You made the call
that you thought was best for you and your interest.
All fine with that, bottom line, you can't sit here
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and play the victim card when you decide to go
ahead and quit on your team, because when play we
do this all the time with players. Oh, it's such
a shame, the players a running the transfer portal. Dude,
you had the best season in Oxford football history.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
You said it wasn't good enough. You're ran, and you
took the money to bat Rouge.
Speaker 3 (57:21):
Well. Speaking of Lane talking about his wishes to stay
on with Ole Miss throughout the playoff, he said as
much yesterday when he caught up with Marty Smith before
boarding the plane to go to baton Rouge.
Speaker 13 (57:33):
This was a very challenging, difficult day.
Speaker 14 (57:35):
You know, we went through a lot last night with
Keith Carter trying to figure out a way, you know,
to make this playoff, you know, run work and be
able to coach the team. And at the end of
the day, that's his decision and I totally respect that.
I understand that decision, and you know, so I just
totally wish the team the best of the luck wish
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that I was coaching, but understand that it was very
challenging position for him the chancer to be in and
totally respect that.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
And he even talked about how Keith Carter had said, Hey,
I've got to live here, like basically, I'm not just
gonna let you go to our hated rival and be
able to still coach us in the playoff.
Speaker 4 (58:17):
Like, if you're leaving, you're leaving. Dude, it's a bad
look for Keith Carter. It's a one hundred percent of
bad look for Keith Carter. Let me make this clear, Dan, Like,
this has been one of the better rivalry matchups over
the last five years because of Lane Kiffin's added validity
to it.
Speaker 3 (58:30):
Do you think that Keith Carter went Dean Gordon Pritchard
from old school, this is me leaving, this is me leaving.
Speaker 6 (58:37):
No.
Speaker 4 (58:37):
I think he gave him them. I think he gave
him the burden said get out out. I think that's
why he said we're not good enough for you see
a Pete Golding walk into the show, Bud, Like, I mean,
let's be real that it was the right move. I
understand that Lane kiffen what he was able to accomplish
what he was able to build in that program, what
he was able to attain their three to ten wins seasons.
Speaker 2 (58:56):
It's the best run of ole Miss football.
Speaker 4 (58:58):
Lane told you straight to your face, I'm leaving you
because of I don't think you're good enough. You think
that we're gonna reward you to stick around and be
a part of our staff as we are going on
a run to make the college football Playoff. No, he
made it abundantly clear, even with the best season possible,
I think that there's a ceiling. There's not one at
louis There's not one at Louisiana State University. I'm taking
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the money.
Speaker 2 (59:21):
I'm going there.
Speaker 3 (59:22):
Well, I mean I think that he looks at LSU
as opposed to ole Miss and says we can have
this many years.
Speaker 2 (59:28):
I'm not sure that I can never really have this
again at ole Miss.
Speaker 4 (59:30):
No, let's be real. There was Ari Wasserman from on
three set of probably best. The ceiling at ole Miss
is the expectation at LSU. That's where you're gonna get
every single year. Dan, you and I both know this.
We know this because if it's just true, LSU sells
itself every single person that lives in the Sail Louisiana
that is a top tier recruit. They don't play for
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Lane Kiffin, They don't play for Less Miles, they don't
play for Nick Saban. They play for LSU. They dream
of going to play at LSU. They Lane Kiffen is
an elite responder that comes to the transfer portal. Lank
even is gonna have resources out the wazoo when it
comes to nil funds to be able to build this
mecha program back to the highest level that we know.
And the expectation is in four years you're supposed to
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win a national title. He can do all those things,
and you can't do that in a place like Ole Miss.
But the bottom line is that you can't be the
head coach at LSU and be coaching the ole Miss
Rebels in the playoff.
Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
Well, I mean, I think it's also too you know,
the formula is very simple at LSU. If you dominate
Southern Louisiana, you dominate that state and recruiting, then you're
gonna have a really good chance. And then look, I mean,
we know it here and I talked about it again
with Nate Griffin on Fox twenty six this morning. Is
LSU's formula is pretty simple. You know, own the in
state and then come over here to the Houston area
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and get tons of players to come and follow you
there to baton rouge and play there.
Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
And it's worked out numerous times in the past.
Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
So the other thing that you got to throw in
Dan is that this is a dude that is elite
at landing transfer portal players and the kid and here
was the thing that was like so brilliant about what
Lane was able to accomplish when he was at a
place like ole Miss. Every single player that transferred into
the Rebels program left better suited for the NFL. So
now you're gonna be able to go pick and choose
with elite names that never considered ole Miss because of
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the standard of what it is. And they want to
go play it in Georgia and they want to go
play it in Alabama, Well they're gonna look at LSU
in that exact same light.
Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Lane's gonna get them.
Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
He's gonna still develop them, he's still gonna have top
ten recruiting classes, and he's bringing over an offensive staff
that could be paired with the great defensive staff that
basically in the standpoint of a year, dude, they should
be very much right in the hunt for a college
football playoff bit. They should be in the hunt for
an SEC title bid. They should be in the conversation
to win a national championship. He has all the right
resources there, and he's shown you that he can win
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at the highest level with his mindset. Now, let's you
just gotta let Lane Kiffen be Lane Kiffin. That's part
of the job here. You can't say, oh, well, you
know we're making Lane change should be is as a person. Nope,
that's part of the reason why he was able to
be SU successful at Ole Miss. But if you let
Lane by Lane and you let LSU sell itself, dude,
they're gonna be right back in.
Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
The hunt for a national champion this time next season.
They should be. They really should.
Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
Well, I mean, and it's not gonna be for a
lack of effort either, because the money and the pursuit, well,
it pays off for LSU. And again, we're gonna talk
about this a lot more in about an hour and
a half when Matt Moscona from ESPN one oh four
to five and Louisiana Sports dot Net, they're in Louisiana
joins us to talk about this. But let's get back
into a little bit of Texans conversation, because could the
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Texans get some help from a friend they didn't even
know they had. We'll discuss that right here as we
continue on the Morning Drive with Danny Cole. Right here
on a Monday at Sports Talk seven ninety.
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The friend that the Texans didn't know that they have,
Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow able to take care of business
Thursday night against a team that right now is neck
and neck with you for a AFC the playoff, the
seeding and the Ravens. They beat them thirty two fourteen.
And now here's where he can become even more of
a friend. They're gonna be in Buffalo this weekend taking
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on the Bills. Yep, that's a team that's currently in
front of you, and that's a team that does look beatable.
Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
I mean we saw it here.
Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Texans played well enough to win and did win and
you're able to still be in position against Buffalo where
now you have the tiebreaker over them. This is something
that could really help. Like that's why watching that Steelers
game yesterday, you're like, come on, Steelers, like find a
way because by the way you went, you already took
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care of business. And the Steelers win that game yesterday.
Then you jump Buffalo and you're in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Right number seven seed right now, Yeah, Dallas is another friend.
I will agree with you right now since Night is
probably your best friend. Because if you want to be
able to say you have headhead wins over common opponents.
For a team that is not gonna go to the
playoff this year, they're probably gonna fire their coach, They're
probably gonna hit Re said on a lot of things.
Burl looked awesome in his first game back two hundred
and sixty one yards, beat the crap out of the
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secondary of Baltimore on Thanksgiving, had a really overall solid outing.
Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Has an opportunity to continue to help you on out.
You have to win. You had to do your part.
Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
But any way for you to gain any traction in
this race in the AFC playoff, you want to take
and partially with.
Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
That it's out of your control.
Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
Like surprisingly, let me ask you this, who's a better
friend in your opinion for the standpoint of the Texans
to win the division? Is it Jacksonville or is it Indianapolis.
I would say that it's probably Indianapolis. I because I
don't believe that they're going to get this back on track.
I think Daniel Jones the best that we saw out
of him. It's not going to continue and it's only
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going to be even more on the plate of Johnson Taylor.
Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
And I mean for Jacksonville, it's not necessarily like you
feel one hundred percent confident in them. You talked about
it earlier. I mean, he still got Trevor Lawrence over there,
and he's a guy that just has not been able
to live up to the expectations.
Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
That we thought he could live up to.
Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
Now, you cannot sell me on the idea that you
have a franchise quarterback that you trust in Trevor Lrrence.
Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
You just can't.
Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
And by the way, here's Indianapolis scheduled on the stretch.
Two games against Jacksonville, game against Seattle, game against San Francisco,
one more game against you guys. They could royally screw
it up for themselves and still beat Jacksonville twice.
Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Like that's what you need.
Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
So like, I'm in full agreeance that I think that
Houston right now, knowing that Nico Collins is a Colts killer,
he's basically taken the role of t Y Hilton in
this rivalry.
Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
He has now been able to take on over games.
Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
Knowing that your defense is elite when it plays at home,
you should be confident beating Indianapolis in week eighteen.
Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Just done. Deal.
Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
You need Indianapolis to be the killer of the Jaguars
and then let them let the pieces fall and play
to where they end up knocking themselves in.
Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
And here's where the Bengals can even help you out
even more as the following week they're going to take
on Baltimore in Cincinnati. And I mean, you know this
is a Bengals team that I threw it out on Twitter.
You know over the weekend too, that Joe Burrow could
be the ultimate what could have been guy? Like he
absolutely can't because when healthy, you see what you saw
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on Thursday night. But that's just the problem. He hasn't
been healthy for much of his career. You're talking about
just in general in the NFL. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't disagree with you. I still think he's gonna
have a sellar career. You know, he's twenty eight years old.
I mean twenty seven years old. He still has another
ten years if he wants to key playing. The problem
is that the injuries are starting to stockpile. You got
to invest properly when it comes to your offensive line.
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You're gonna lose some players eventually to free agency because
they're not all gonna want to resign with you.
Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
It's an organization that does not.
Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
Care a lot about its overall status in terms of
how much they spend, and they build around their quarterback.
It's why Carson Palmer said I would rather retire early
than ever play another down for this franchise. Like again,
that's just it. I don't disagree with you. Because of
when Burrow's on point, he is. This is why we
have the conversation every single year. Burrow, with the injuries,
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is still a top five quarterback in the NFL because
of when he's on point, he is a lead. He
could have been an MVP last year. Like, honestly, let's
be real, do you think he wins the MVP last year.
If Cincinnati makes the playoffs, probably I would say so.
I think that as much as Josh Allen had a
career year and he was phenomenal, the reason why he
won it over Lamar Jackson and the reason why I
won over Joe Burrow is because one team didn't make
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the playoff, one team has already won an MVP twice.
Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
The biggest reason too, why I think that he and
the Bengals are your best friend right now is because
that's a totally different football team with him out there. Yeah,
you saw a team the other night that if you're
a Bengals fan you're watching that, you're like, gosh, man,
Like if he had just missed half of this time,
we're probably a six win football team right now, and
we're very much in the thick of things in order
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to be able to make the playoffs. And they are
still technically considered to be in the hunt. But that's
a team that has to win out if that's gonna happen.
And I mean, you get two tough games in these
next ones, but then you get Miami, the Cardinals in
the Browns to finish things up, so it's not out
of the remal possibility they could go three, four and
one in these next few games. But I mean it
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is also too where it's just like, you still got
that defense over there, dude, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
It still makes me laugh every single time that we
see the end the hunt graphic and a four win
team that is actually worse than the Miami Dolphins is
in the hunt of Miami's out of it, dude.
Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
And that's the crazy thing is though, too, is that
the Dolphins aren't completely out of this. Like there's a
really real possibility that the Dolphins could finish with a
winning record this year. And all of a sudden, people
were saying, oh, Mike McDaniel, and he's dead man walking.
He's gone you already, you already can the general managers,
So that means that he's next. I mean, it's getting
to the point here where Steven Ross is gonna have
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to look at it and say, hey, you know, we
didn't have some things go our way, but is it
necessarily bad enough for us to have.
Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
To move off for this guy?
Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
Okay, well they're not moving off of to them, Like
there's not many to the two Dolphins fans that listen
to the shit. You're not moving off to a He's
gonna be back next season. You got to figure out
if Mike mcdale can work. Here are your last five games,
the Jets, the Steelers, the Bengals, the Bucks, the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
You can go zero and five in them. You can
go five and zer in them.
Speaker 4 (01:09:11):
For my opinion, because that last game against New England,
if they've already locked up the number one seed in
the AFC, they're resting starters, doesn't matter to them. They're
just gonna have They're gonna have an extra week to
prepare like that's it. So you could win that one.
You can get ahead ahead over Cincinnati. You're not wrong
that they're not out of the playoff race. I don't
think they're in it. I will say, how about Houston.
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In a lot of ways, Miami can because think about it,
you beat New England, you beat Bengals, you beat the Steelers,
two teams that could be in the playoff, you knock
them out, and maybe you put yourself in a position
to where if the Texans were to be the number
seven seed and just be the wild card team, what
if somehow, some way Miami loses to New England, and
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it opens up a door for Denver now to be
the number two seed. You saw the same game I
saw last night in overtime to take down a Marcus
Mariota led Washington Commander's team. You are not a legit
that to win the super Bowl this year. I don't
care that you're sitting at ten to two. You are
not a Super Bowl threat whatsoever out in Denver. I
feel very comfortable about Houston as a seven seed marching
on into Mile High and handling business against Bonex.
Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
Well, continue that Texans conversation at eight o'clock hour two.
Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
You want to jump in on it.
Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
seOne three two one two five seven ninety against someone
three two one two five seven ninety. Let's get into
a little bit of rockets because it feels like this
past week was the best of both worlds and it
played out that way yesterday. We will discuss right here
as we continue on the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole.
Right here, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (01:10:39):
Page Town Built Morning Drive continues. Now, now here's Dann
and Cole.
Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
Get in the rockets able to handle business yesterday afternoon
there and uh, you know, it was a nice little
Sunday for us around here, where it was pretty much
as soon as the uh the the Texans and Colt
scheme came to an end, then you were able to
flip it over to either US here on Sports Talk
seven ninety or the return of Craig and Ryan on
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Space City Home Network, because you had the two national
TV games with Peacock and ESPN last week, so.
Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
They were able to call it on the local side.
Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
But you go to Utah handle business there a strong
first quarter, strong second quarter. Really, there was no part
of that game yesterday that you watched and you were like, yeah, this,
you know, looks like it's a little bit of a struggle.
It was domination from the beginning and a huge part
of that due to the return of one Kevin Durant
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three of four from outside at the three, ten of
fourteen overall, twenty five points out of him in this win.
Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
Take a wine, take your star back, guess what you're
gonna go ahead and feel good about it. Being able
to beat up on a Utah team when you know
that they have family in the stands watching them. Just
get Molly Watt Bile meets I'm all for it.
Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
It was well, I mean, especially to you know, even
though it's it's a long way from the John Stockton,
Karl Malone, Jeff horniset years that there is never any
love loss for that organization. It's it's one of those like, no,
you're still there, You're still in Salt Lake City. We
still remember everything from you guys. So yeah, it's it's
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definitely a huge part of you know, these two organizations passed.
But Alprin shing Goon too out of him twenty seven points.
And you know, and I mentioned the best of both
worlds because well, you got Kevin Durant missing the first
two games last week where you're able to get a win,
and then you go to Golden State and you get
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that win where it was the Reach Shepherd game on
that Wednesday night where it looked like it was gonna
get away from the Rockets, and then Reach Shepherd and
company able to follow through and you hold on and
win that game. And you win both of those games
without Kevin Durant. So you're much better with him in
the fold. But at least, if nothing else, you've seen
functional depth built up by rafel Stone and this Rockets
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front office that if you do have to go a
game or two without him, you feel good.
Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
No, I mean you've won ten of your last eleven games.
On top of that, you've been able to see everyone
kind of step on up in different roles. Reach Shepherd's
been awesome offensively, He's added in more of a leadership
when it comes to being a point guard facilitator. You've
gotten good play from Amen Toms at times. He's gotten
really good play from Jabarsmith at times. And then in
the game against one of the worst teams in the NBA,
your two stars show on up.
Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (01:13:32):
I would love to be able to say that for
the Rocket standpoint, you need them to show on up
in the games against Denver, in the games against Golden State.
But I'll tell you, dude, you'll take ten times out
of ten a Reach Shepherd dominant performance against Golden State
when you're guving to go toe to toe against Steph
Curry and then have your stars go ahead and give
you a points when you need them to go ahead
and deliver in a game that is already going to
be an easy win, and it's an easier win because
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of Alfred Shingun is awesome, Katie is awesome, and you
know what you didn't have the best knight from from
Ree Shepherd, It's okay because you had other people step
on up. J Bari Smith dropped fifteen. You had a
decent game overall defensively from Amen Thompson, he had nine
assists on the night. Stephen Adams had thirteen points, y'all
said twelve rebounds overall. Again, I'll take this as as
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a quality win no matter how you get, how you
phrase it.
Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
And I mean, you know you've seen a guy like Shepherd.
Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
I mean we talked about the Golden State game where
I mean he just he went off in that game,
and you're just like, it is nice to see the
confidence at both ends of the floor out of this guy,
because that's what you've been getting. I mean, you've been
getting him being able to be sure of his shots,
creating shots for himself. And I mean there's no longer
any sort of hesitancy out of him, where you know,
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you thought that he was a guy that was just
kind of trying to find his legs underneath him last
year and now this year, I mean so much that
you know, he's been trusted so much that you've put
him into the starting lineup in the last three games
has worked out incredibly well. And you mentioned it yesterday.
Nine points out of him but still four of eight
from the field.
Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
To see that, what's the score and the night going
to be one fifty five to eighty six?
Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Is that what you're helping for? Here's the interesting thing
that I mean, you know, you wonder with Durant being out.
I mean I think that most times for back to backs,
we're going to see him rest either one of those nights.
But I think tonight probably the fact that he didn't
have to travel anywhere. You're staying right there in Utah.
You go right back, so he'll be back out there.
But yeah, I mean this is a Utah team that's
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not great. Six and thirteen on the season. They suck
at home, they're five and six well, and I mean
it's also a team that you have to believe is
soon enough going to be you know, try to unload.
I mean, you've got guys like George's Nyang. Did you
even know that Kevin Love.
Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Is on the Utah I found that out midway through
the second. I just found that out right now. You
didn't even play last night? No, Yeah, he dmped for
I saw him on the bench. I'm like, that's that's
Kevin Love. He's still in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
Well, he's still in the NBA, but also too like
where you're just like, wait a minute, he's he's there,
like that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
But no, I mean, you know you're probably going.
Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
To see the Jazz start unloading guys, and Lori Markinen
is one of those guys that's gonna get a lot
of interest from people. I mean, Kylie Anderson another guy.
I mean, they do have players that that I think
will draw interest. But I mean to the point that
we've brought up here, Cole is you play against a
bad team, handle a bad team like they're a bad team.
Speaker 4 (01:16:23):
You're supposed to beat the crap out of this team,
and you're all supposed to have multiple players on this
team be able to show on up like tonight's one
of those games where, hey, Bar, you had appen Chain Gooding,
yet Kevin Durant be able to deliver in a critical
moment yesterday to be able to guarantee a double digit
dismantling type of performance. Now, I want to see Reach
Shepherd do it. I want Seach bar Smith do it.
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I want to see you a good night from Am
and Thompson. You get one, You get one good game
from your two elite stars against a crappy team that
lives out in Salt Lake City that's looking to trade
away some assets. You got to have your backups, and
you got to have your rotational guys have a bigger
role today.
Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
I mean, and you know, what's some of the stuff
that we'd heard from people too. After Fred got hurt. Oh,
you know, no point guard, it's going to be hard.
But he made a dooka finally said all right, fine,
I'll throw you a point guard out there, and I'll
throw you a guy that not only can create for others,
we can create for himself too.
Speaker 4 (01:17:16):
And that's been a difference. How to read Shepherd, No
read Shepherd again. Last night had a really good game
when it came to being a facilitator. He's also gotten
better defensively. He had six rebounds last night. Was playing
a little bit pesky and side the paint held held
Ace Bailey the nineteen points. They didn't let anything really
happen outside of a couple of big time shots from
Lori Markinen the bench and Kyle phillip Kowski was like
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their leading.
Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
Scorer with twelve.
Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
I mean, like again, this is a game plan to
where you had everyone kind of be playing on the
right cylinders. On top of that, you once to get
tired Star Silver. That's what you can ask for.
Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
Absolutely. It is seven one three, two one two five.
Seven ninety is the number to get in on the
phone lines. You know the rules around here. If we've
touched on it, well then you can weigh in on it.
And I know that Ray wants to weigh in on
something that we've talked about, so we'll get him. I'm
involved also too when we get back in to the
Texans conversation, because they found a way. But is it
going to be good enough? We'll discuss as we continue
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on a Monday, Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
And that's exactly where Ray in Montana wants to go
to get a started here in the eight o'clock hour, Ray,
good morning, how you doing, Hey.
Speaker 8 (01:18:50):
Guys, I'm just I'm doing well. Had a good Thanksgiving.
I hope you did too.
Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (01:18:58):
I called I guess about a month ago. At come up,
Why don't Ole miss just.
Speaker 7 (01:19:02):
Fire this guy?
Speaker 8 (01:19:04):
I hope this is a lesson to college sports in general,
because Sasenagel did the same thing to A and M.
The moment that this stuff comes out, he Lane Kiffin
had already made up his mind a month ago. If
it came out, he's made up his mind. Just get
rid of him, Fire.
Speaker 7 (01:19:23):
Him right away.
Speaker 8 (01:19:25):
They didn't need need him for Mississippi State. I mean,
but start preparing for the playoffs. I mean, good lord,
I mean, so that's my opinion. I'm sure you guys
don't agree.
Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
With me, but not even a little bit completely awesome,
not even a little bit.
Speaker 8 (01:19:42):
Okay, that's fine. That's why we live in America. So uh,
thanks for your time, guys.
Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (01:19:50):
Ray.
Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
I mean, it's a little bit of a slippery slope there,
because let's just take Steve Starkesian for example, with the
Diana Russini reports, where it was he's looking at the
NFL and he's got interest in the Tennessee Titans, and
he not only once but then also to Desmond Howard
the same deal there. Yeah, where you can have coaches
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that an ad is coming at him, and let's just
say to Ray's point that that's even on the table,
then you've got not only a legal but also a
professional battle there on your hands, where you're like, I
didn't say any of these things. I did none of
these things. You're you're you're possibly moving on from me
over innu window alone. Yeah, like that's that's the only
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reason that you're doing this. So that's again the slippery
slope that you get into on that, because i mean, look,
it's it's pretty simple at this point. When Keith Carter
released that statement at ole Miss that Lane Kiffin's future
status with ole Miss will be determined Friday after Saturday
after we play the Egg.
Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
Bowl, No, it was determined that afternoon. Well, and that's
exactly it, because if he's staying, then he stays. I mean,
it's it's really that simple.
Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
And here's the other thing that I'm going to actually
push back on with a lot of people about Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Oh, this is what he does.
Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
If this is quote what he does, he'd be the
head coach at Auburn right now, he would have taken
that job two years ago.
Speaker 4 (01:21:08):
But at the same time, when he was flirting with
the Auburn job, what happened. They crumbled down the stretch.
They were seven to one at the start of the season.
They lost for their last five games, including the bowl
game in the Texas Bowl, right here to Texas Deck
and everything went off the reels.
Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Three years ago, it was clear as day. Here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (01:21:27):
You're firing Lane Kiffin because if he's flirting around with
another job, he is flirting around behind your back. He's
cheating on you with the prettier chicks in the grands
game of things. Bottom line, you're firing him. You had
to pay him now. You had to pay him because
of you have a non just cause onto why he
was fired, and you're giving him an opportunity to go
coach for another team while he's getting paid by you,
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because he wants to go ahead and pursue other options.
On top of all that, you're not guaranteed to win
against the Mississippi State because you don't know what Peak
Goling's going to be as a play caller. You don't
know if Charlie wise Junior is staying on your staff.
You don't know which offensive coaches are leading. And let's
go a step further. You have the game against Florida
before that, So the game against Florida you had to
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come back in the second half. That is what Lane
Kifven teams do. That's not what Peke Golding teams do.
We don't know if that's gonna happen. So Ole Miss
can't fire their coach because if he wants to look
at other teams as potentially better fits for him, because
if then it hurts you for an opportunity to make
a run of the playoff in your best season possible,
you let them finish out the year. No problem with that,
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But you set in the dendum Saturday morning.
Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
We need an answer. Do you believe that you are
going to be the head coach at Ole Miss?
Speaker 13 (01:22:40):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:22:40):
Okay, best of luck, happy trails, don't let the door
hit you on the way out. We'll go to the
playoff without you. You either locked him with being with
us or you're locked in being with another program. But
we're not letting you have your cake.
Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
You need it too.
Speaker 4 (01:22:52):
This is the problem that I happen with people when
they're saying, oh, well, Lane Kiffin, I don't feel bad.
And one second that Lang Kiven is not coaching in
the playoff. You made your bed, you lie in it.
You get paid a lot of money to go ahead
and be the head coach somewhere. You get paid a
lot of money to go ahead and lead a program
that now you were going to be playing against your
former team every single Saturday.
Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
And he even said it too that I mean, he
gets it, he understands, and I mean in this case
right here, I think anybody would be a fool to
think that Ole miss would say, oh yeah, hey you're
going to our hated rival, go ahead and stick around
here and you know, continue to gather even more information
that you can use against us down the road. No,
I mean they did what they knew they needed to
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do in this scenario. And to your point too, I
mean that's something that our guests coming up at nine o'clock,
Matt Moscona, had been talking about, is you know you
fire him exactly what you said the financial part of it.
Then Lane Kiffin and Jimmy Sexton can come back and say, hey,
you fired us, So that means that you're on the
hook to pay us the buyout from this.
Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
Where's he going right now? He's going to LSU?
Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
Who did they just fire Brian Kelly?
Speaker 7 (01:23:52):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
What did they do?
Speaker 13 (01:23:54):
Well?
Speaker 4 (01:23:54):
They fired him without just cause. Legal ramifications got involved,
lawyers got involved. We had multiple conversations with the Athletic
Department and what was the determining factor? We fired you
because we don't like you and we want this problem
to go away. Great, pay me fifty four million dollars
because of that is what you were promised to.
Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
I had no cause.
Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
Do you see a nice little Wednesday five o'clock news
dump right there where they were like.
Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
Well, we'll go ahead and just pay you the buy out? Yeah,
they had to.
Speaker 4 (01:24:17):
You weren't winning that, And then like again a place
like O, here's the difference, And this is where again
we can go ahead and have bygones. Be bygones about
what you think of either program seven seven nine if
you want tim on it on this conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
For me, LSU has money to spend.
Speaker 4 (01:24:32):
LSU said it clear as day, we are going to
pay fifty four million dollars and not break a sweat
to get rid of the problem that was Brian Kelly
and fixed our mistake by hiring Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
You don't have that at all, miss You don't.
Speaker 4 (01:24:46):
So when you fire a coach like Lane Kiffin, who
you know for e fact has an agent that is
basically puppeteering all of these coaching searches behind closed doors
and getting his clients paid by other schools just for
flirting with an other team, you think for one second
he's gonna say, oh, well, you know you built up
all this good equity and we were able to get
ten wins.
Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
We're gonna let you go go be our rival now
at LSU. Hey, but we don't have to worry about
what we get to pay you.
Speaker 4 (01:25:13):
No, lank Kiffn's going for the jugular and saying, you
don't let me finish my season, pay me my money,
and I'll leave and kick your ass in the process.
Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
Well, and then you know, with Kelly on that, I
think more than anything that LSU was looking at was
all right, fine, you want to take this to trial,
and you want to go through a trial here in
this state against us, in this state, it's not gonna
go well for you.
Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
It ended up going pretty well for Brian Kelly though.
Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
No, that absolutely did because I mean, you know, played
the legal game right there, and then eventually they just said,
all right, we'll just pay it the fifty.
Speaker 4 (01:25:40):
We're we're just gonna wipe away the problem with the
headache that is this, that's what we're gonna do again.
I have nothing against Lank Kiffin. You make your bed,
You're totally allowed to go ahead to make this decision.
I agree with multiple people out there, and I've told
you this, I told many other people this. When run properly,
I think LSU is the best job in America in
college football.
Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
And it's not particularly close.
Speaker 4 (01:26:01):
Yes, Texas has an argument, Yes, Alabama, Yes, Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
I think it's LSU.
Speaker 4 (01:26:06):
You don't get to be the head coach at the
LSU Tigers coaching the almost rebels in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
I think the differences though, between like a couple of
the other programs you mentioned, Texas being one of them,
is the difference with LSU is they have almost free
rain in that state. When it comes to the talent,
you show enough interest in a kid, they're more than
likely gonna want to come play for you. Now, I
know that Nick Saban had a little bit of a
pipeline in there, for a while of even getting guys
right there in Baton Rouge just say yeah, I think
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Tuscaloosis sounds better than Baton Rouge does. But for the
most part, you're pretty much free rein right there in
that regard, Whereas Texas, Florida, some of these other programs
that are in states that have a lot of other
hands that are trying to get some slices of that pie.
Then the talent poll, even though it's vast, I mean,
you still got others that you're having to compete with
in that regard.
Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
It's not as much for LSU.
Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
It's for them, it's focus on Southern Louisiana and then
build out from there. Whereas for Texas, it's hey, when
Houston win, Dallas wins, Central Texas right here, and that's
how we're able to build our program and go outside
for some you know, a few other parts.
Speaker 4 (01:27:07):
Now, the good news is when you have a guy
like Ce Sarcasian who has ties everywhere in the state
because of what he did out in California and when
he did out in Washington and Alabama, and just the
brand of Texas itself. It sells the identity of being
able to say listen, we can go pick and choose
who we want to come here and they're going to
be a part of our staff.
Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
But LSU does the same thing.
Speaker 4 (01:27:25):
The difference is is that in the state of Texas,
you're going toe to toe with Texas A and M.
You are going to tote with LSU. You're going to
tote with Alabama. You're going to to toe with Georgia.
You're going up against TCU that has Oklahoma. Oklahoma has money.
You can throw Baylor in there, that has money, the
University of Houston. I'm telling you, if they can get
together when it comes to the nil collective what Willie
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Fritz was able to accomplish this year, they're going to
be a team that could be a threat in the
Big twelve for years on end. When it's LSU, it's
your losing because if you're not recruiting the right players
in the state, that's it. Because every single kid, they
don't dream of playing for the Warhawks, Dan. They're not
saying I hope to one day suit up for the
Rageing Cagents.
Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
They settle for that. They want to play in Death
Valley on a Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (01:28:08):
Well, I mean, and you know, Texas Tech, I think
is another team you got to throw in there. They're
able to killing it to do this season. So I mean,
you know, you got money and you got enough of
a stage. Kids will come there and play, and they
proved it this last year at Texas Tech.
Speaker 4 (01:28:23):
I want to move off this because if there are
Texans conversation, there's other things with the Rockets. We got
Astro's conversation, guy that's signed over the weekend that thank
god he's not coming to Houston.
Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
But I want to get your opinion.
Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
If you're the college Football Playoff committee, are you penalizing
Ole Miss for losing link?
Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
If no, it's not their fault. Thanks, it's not their fault.
I mean you still got the same team. I mean
the head coach not being there. I understand that it
probably is going to be a hey, what does this
look like without him? But at the same time, though, too,
I think it's you know, a far cry from what
we saw a couple of years ago when Florida State
got left out.
Speaker 4 (01:28:56):
Here's the thing about the Florida State argument that bothers
the crap out of me. Let me ask you, Florida
State when they got left out, they were thirteen and oh,
how many teams were in the college football playoff four?
How many teams are in the playoff now twelve? They
would have not been left out if it was a
twelve team playoff. They would have been the five seed,
maybe the sixth seed, but they would have had their
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shot in the playoff if this was a four team playoff.
I can completely understand. You don't have Lane Kiffin, you
have one loss. You're not playing in the conference championship.
Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
Best of luck. Sorry, bro, you're not going.
Speaker 4 (01:29:29):
But in a twelve team playoff model, you can't sit
here and say that Florida State and ole Miss are
the exact same combination because ole Miss is eleven to one,
Florida State was thirteen and oh. Both would have been
in the playoff in a twelve team format model. So
I hate that narrative. You did your job, You won
the games you were supposed to. You should not be
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penalized because number one, none of the players have left
the roster. They're staying by because they want to be
a part of ole Miss's run in the playoff. And
number two, you were able to hire a coach internally,
was a part of your staff the entire year. That
got to a loved and one. It's not an interim
guy that's just taken on over for the next few weeks.
Pete going's running the show moving forward. So they solved
that problem and said, this is our guy, this is
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our team, same culture, Saint Mantra.
Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
It's Cole just alluded to right there, the Texans conversation
is going to be hot, and have you here in
the eight o'clock hour you want to get in on it.
Sebone three two on two five seven ninety against someone
three two on two five seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
Of the Texans turned this trend in their favor.
Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
Recent evidence would say, yes, we'll discuss right here as
we continue here on a Monday, It's the Morning Drive
with Dan and Cole.
Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (01:30:39):
Dan Matthews, Cole Thompson, this is the Morning Drive with
Dan and Cole.
Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
You had to come back from nineteen down in the
fourth quarter and you find a way to beat the
Jacksonville Jaguars, and the following week it was ugly, but
again you found a way against a very bad Tennessee
Titans team. But when it comes down to it, people
only asked did you win or did you lose and
the Texans won that game, so all is well?
Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
That ends well with that one.
Speaker 3 (01:31:09):
And then of course the Buffalo game week before you
win it by four, and in the one yesterday twenty
to sixteen over the Colts, and now a advantage of
the Colts in the head to head even though there's
still a game better than you in the overall record.
Speaker 4 (01:31:24):
You should be sitting at eight and four. I'm sorry,
and I get it. Congratulations again. You find a way
to win, You find a way to be able to
deliver defensively. Wasn't your best performance still good enough to
beat job and Taylor? Still good enough to be Indianapolis
that was reeling at the right time. I'm still on
over that Denver game. I'm still not over it, dude.
Speaker 3 (01:31:43):
The Denver one, I mean the Jacksonville, I mean any
of those, you know, first four losses, because the only
one that you could really look at their five losses
this year and say you weren't in that game. I mean,
I understand it was one score when it was all
said and done against Seattle, but Seattle dominated, so you had.
Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
One good play and it was the sack by the
track in the end zone. By Will Anderson.
Speaker 3 (01:32:06):
Right, So, I mean, you know, you get the loss
to the Rams and you come out of that saying, damn,
you should have won that one. Same deal the following
the week against Tampa Bay, and then of course, you
know the game against Jacksonville. We've we've gone through all
of those, and yeah, the Denver one, like, that's a
team that, honestly, like even watching them last night against
Washington was just like like how are they doing this?
(01:32:28):
Like like how how are they able to continue doing this?
And by the way, they're on a nine game win
streak and they've trailed in every single one of those games,
including the one that you let slip away here against them.
Speaker 4 (01:32:38):
It's ridiculous. I mean it quite literally is. But somehow,
some way they're able to respond. And there's no other
way to put it. They're just getting by. It's you
know what it is, Dan, It's worst version of Houston football.
Because of in Houston, you're able to build a lead
and you're holding out hope and your defense is getting
enough critical stops. You're having to fight your way back
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in against inferior teams to get wins, and you're just
doing it off offensively with Bonix.
Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
Well, and that's the thing too with the you know,
the Texans being able to these last four games pull
them off the way that they have is I mean,
it's a toning fir previous sins because I mean that
was the issue early on this season, and you even
saw it a little bit last year too, where you
were coming off a surprise first season with Damiko Ryans
and CJ.
Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Shroud where they won a lot of one score games.
Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
They won a lot of close games, either coming from
behind or holding on whatever way it was they were
able to do that. I think the other thing is too,
that gives you hope for this Texans team is getting
better as the season goes along, because again, you lost
those games the way you did early on this season.
Now you're winning those games. That's a sign of an
improving football team. They're doing things that you really like.
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I think on both sides.
Speaker 4 (01:33:50):
The ball number one, you get in your defense to
come up with critical plays at the right time. I
mean again, fourth down stop got to have moment Derek
Singley Junior with a good pass breakup, you're able to
close things on out with the nice Woody Marks run.
Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
This was not one of those games. So where again
I'm gonna put the pressure on CJ.
Speaker 4 (01:34:04):
Stroud like and I think that US is Texans fans
and us that you know live in the city and
want to see Houston be right back in the conversation
as a legit playoff threat. We can also have this
be a kind of come to reality moment. Your quarterback
hadn't played in a month and he still was able
to throw for two hundred and sixty eight yards, lead
three scoring four scoring drives, gets during the red zone twice,
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and you finish off the drives with touchdowns. It's not
a great performance. You're gonna need to be better if
you're CJ. When you go next week into Arrowhead. You're
gonna have to be better when you face off against
teams like Las Vegas and Arizona because you can't have
all this good momentum and find a way to shoot
yourself in the foot down the stretch. But you'll take
that type of game because of it was the first
moment back since coming and playing in Houston.
Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
You mentioned Derek Stanley Junior, the silent assass in this season,
so yesterday he did not allow a single reception and
his only target across twenty eight coverage snaps against the
Colts yesterday. He has four games this season of under
ten yards allowed. Quinnon Mitchell is the only other one
with four. Patrick certain has three.
Speaker 6 (01:35:10):
A J.
Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
Terrell has three, and Lenore with the forty nine ers
has three.
Speaker 4 (01:35:17):
He's been elite, I mean almost funny is we talk
about him of having a underwhelming season in our standard
because we saw him have an all Pro year last year.
He still is playing at a Pro Bowl level. He
still is arguably a top five cornerback in the NFL.
I just think that when we're looking at this perspective
the cornerback, I'm paying more attention to his Kamara Laster
for both good and bad reasons. Yesterday was a bad reason.
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He gave up that big touchdown pass to Alec Pierce.
You go up being the right place at the right time,
and coverage you lock Kylen Bullock to work your way
over the top, you're able to go ahead and get
a critical stop. Maybe you force that in completion. Now
this is a game to where you're winning by seven.
Just little things like that go a long way. But
Secondary has been playing elite, I mean all year, and
when you needed they gotta have moment from Derek Sleay junior.
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You got it, and like let's just call it as is.
That is a play to where it they connect, they
probably gain all the momentum. And it's just the exact
same thing that we saw against Indiana against Jacksonville in
Week three. Momentum leaves your sideline because of one critical
error and it goes in favor of a division rival.
They win the football game, they put themselves in a
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bad position. I guarantee you if somehow, some way Houston
didn't get that stop, Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
Wins, well, I mean and that's again where you know,
atoning for bad things that happened early on this season.
That was the make good for the first Shacksonville loss
because you didn't play well, but you played well enough
to be able to find a way to win. And
in you know, this part of the season, it's it's
especially the case where there's no style points. I don't
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I don't have to you know, impress the committee. I
don't have to do any of those things. I just
got to win and continue to win to give yourself
a chance to be able to make it into the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (01:36:56):
I can also appreciate that, even though the defense didn't
have it's stellar performances, were so accustomed to seeing where
they're getting fifty, they're getting eight sacks, they're winning with
three turnovers. They did the job they had to do,
which is case in point. Make Jonathan Taylor be a mobile.
We've seen it this season when you slow down running backs.
You did it for the most part. I think with
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James Cook two. If James Cook and Jonathan Taylor hit
over one hundred yards ninety percent of the time Buffalo
and Indianapolis wins, Jonathan Taylor held to eighty five yards
twenty one carries out of the end zone. You said,
if we're gonna lose this game, Daniel Jones are gonna
have to beat us. He had one sack by Sheldon Rankins,
but you also had two critical fourth down stops. You
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also were able to only give up fourteen points.
Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
Well, the good news is this week, too, is you
get a little bit of a respite when it comes
to the really good running backs that you have to
go up against. Because I mean that was the case.
Buffalo talked about it all throughout that week. The wild
card in that one was James Cook. You allow him
to get going, then you're gonna be in for a
rough night.
Speaker 6 (01:37:57):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:37:57):
A few weeks ago against San Francisco, I mean you
were able to completely limit Christian McCaffrey, and for the
most part, you did it again yesterday. You're not gonna
go into this game against Kansas City scene oh Man
Pachecko and Kareem Hunt. Got to stop those guys because
I don't necessarily think that you have to worry as
much about those guys. It's all about fifteen.
Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
Now and again.
Speaker 4 (01:38:17):
He also had a really good performance once from Nico Collins.
He's become a Colts killer. He basically has taken on
over as the new t Y Hilton in this rivalry
over the last few years, four straight games with over
one hundred total yards of scrimmage and a touchdown. Found
his way in with the seven yard scrint. I thought
it was really smart play by Nick Kaylee, Like he
caught everyone off guard. He made sure that lou rm
Moro was kind of playing toward the line of scrimmage.
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Guess what happened. You're working away at the outside. Cameraman
even misses the shot. You're into the end zone. The
countless booze coming from Lucas Oil Stadium. Guys get over it,
like you can't stop number twelve. They force fed twelve
and they said, we're gonna use our best asset to
kick your keyster. We're gonna find a way to win.
Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:38:55):
We had that earlier where you get the booze after
the reverse to Nico Collins. I think that was more
because I mean you had that third down pass interference,
which you go back and look at it and you're like,
Texans probably got away with one right there.
Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
But again, I mean, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
Mentioned Chris Simms talking about the pass interference on I
can't remember who it was on for the Texans. That's
set up the first touchdown or the second touchdown for Indianapolis,
where Chris Sims is like the hot dog vendor has
a better chance of catching that football. Like his whole
point was, can we have a little bit of common
sense when it comes to pass interferences, because there was
(01:39:34):
a time where we would have past interferences and then
they'd have a discussion.
Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
They're like, that ball wasn't catchable, all right, let's pick
it up.
Speaker 4 (01:39:40):
Well, the thing is is that right now you don't
know what is a catch and you don't know what
is a pass interference called? Because at the same time,
if you're going for like the way that we talk about,
how all it takes is a cornerback to be turned
slightly inward. Well, now that they're not giving an advantage
point to a wide receiver despite the ball being four
yards down the field, well because of his back was
slightly No, we're gonna go ahead and just wait, We're
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gonna give them the fifteen yards. Like, if it's an
uncatchable ball, it's an uncatchable ball.
Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
Just call it as is, guys.
Speaker 4 (01:40:07):
Now, I will say again, Houston still was the more
palaized team and they had the self afflicting moons when
it came to the offensive line, multiple fall starts, multiple
and eligible receiver downfield, multiple legal formations. It's it's just
something that you're gonna have to live with, I think,
for the rest of the year because it's not changing.
Speaker 2 (01:40:24):
This is what you are as a team.
Speaker 4 (01:40:25):
Like it's there comes a point in the season where
you're like, this is what we can expect to finally see,
how guys, it's.
Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
Week fourteen, it's the start of December.
Speaker 4 (01:40:34):
This is who you are this is your Ideaeddy, you
can run the football somewhat efficiently, you gotta get the
ball in at twelve's hands. You gotta deal with penalties
that are gonna set you back from a second and
five to a second intent.
Speaker 3 (01:40:44):
I don't think I've ever seen multiple illegal formations or
ineligible man downfields.
Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
And the Texans have done it twice in the last
three weeks. Twice.
Speaker 4 (01:40:55):
They're gonna do it again the next week against an
against Kansas City. The question is will it be enough
to be a reason why you're on a field goal
range or you out of the red zone. I will
say this, dude, it so worries me about the red
zone offense. Like you finally were able to capitalize for
the first time efficiently against a really good team that's
at the red zone.
Speaker 2 (01:41:14):
I still worry about that red zone.
Speaker 3 (01:41:16):
That was my favorite thing about you know, Blake Fisher
getting it. I'm like, that is your job, Like you.
Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
Not only want to know the job you do.
Speaker 3 (01:41:24):
You're not catching the football, Like I'm sure that maybe
they have one in there that you know, later in
the season we might see them try kind of like
we just saw with Tampa Bay yes day.
Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
With Tristan Wirfs like that's that's what he hopes for.
Speaker 3 (01:41:37):
But especially if you're not in the red zone or
right on the goal line, guess what it ain't coming
to yet?
Speaker 2 (01:41:42):
Well, who would you actually put out there?
Speaker 4 (01:41:44):
And said, I would say Titus Howard, Like, if I'm
actually trusting an offensive lineman to make a make a catch,
I think Tyas Howard's the dude.
Speaker 3 (01:41:51):
Yeah, he's probably got the most athleticism. I mean, especially
given his past. I mean, you know, maybe that's the case.
Number seventy one is eligible. I say, do you make
seventy one eligib or do you make or do you
make seventy one else? Do you make seventy one eligible?
But do you move into the outside or do you
say inside?
Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
Then now the outside?
Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
That would be something kind of interesting, kind of like
we saw like Alabama do against Georgia earlier this year. Yeah, yeah, well,
nice little screen, nice little offensive tackle screen.
Speaker 4 (01:42:17):
Dude, I'm all for it. Like I again, my favorite
let's go Nick Kaly, let's get let's get a little
froggy here. My favorite thing in football is a fat
man touchdown. I will always appreciate that. I will always
appreciate that and a safety are like seeing a unicorn
on the football field.
Speaker 3 (01:42:31):
Yeah, I love you know, need love too. That's how
the saying goes, all right. Another saying that goes is
a magic number for the Texans. They hit it yesterday
and when they do, it's good. We'll discuss right here
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Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
I think you're in agreement with me on this that
it's a magic number for the Texans. You hit at
least twenty, you're winning the football game.
Speaker 4 (01:44:28):
Yeah, I would say at this point, knowing how well
your defense is, knowing how well you're able to force turnovers,
the ability to be able to win when it comes
to sack rates, great stops in the fourth quarter, there's
a trust factor in what Dimigo Ryans is running.
Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
Yeah, you give me twenty I think you win.
Speaker 3 (01:44:47):
Out of the seven wins you have this season, only
one of them was a win where you scored less
than twenty points.
Speaker 2 (01:44:54):
That was the Titans.
Speaker 3 (01:44:55):
Of course, the walkoff field goal to be able to
get that. But you scored twenty six against Tennessee, forty
four against Baltimore, twenty six against San Francisco, thirty six
against Jacksonville, which, of course you know the six more
in that was the interception, the pick six returned by
Sheldon Rankins. But twenty three and then twenty where. I mean,
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that's just how good this defense is this season that
they look at your offense and say, hey, can you
guys get into the end zone a couple of times
and then stall out a couple of more times and
have Kayemi Fairbaron go out there and kick a couple
of field goals like that really doesn't seem like that's
a ton to ask. And I mean that's a team
that you can look at and say, man, if you
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just give us just a little bit more offensively, then
we're not losing another game this season.
Speaker 4 (01:45:43):
Do me a favor you're saying that twenty is the
magic number to win. That means two touchdowns, two field goals.
Turn one of those field goals into a touchdown drive.
That's twenty four. You will not lose another game the
rest of the year. If you're able to turn one
Kaymi fairbaron field goal into a Woody Marks five yard
run in the red zone, a Jalen Nole fifteen yard
touchdown reception, a Christian Kirk five yard slam, a Dalton
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Schultz ten yard post, any one of those things one.
Speaker 2 (01:46:12):
You will go undefeated the rest of the year.
Speaker 4 (01:46:13):
You will beat Kansas City, you will beat Arizona, you
will beat Las Vegas. You will kick the crap out
of out of LA You will beat Indianapolis at home.
You will go five and o to end the year.
You will finish the season twelve and five.
Speaker 2 (01:46:28):
Twelve and five too.
Speaker 3 (01:46:28):
I mean, you'd have to wonder if that's gonna be
good enough to get you home field for not only
the wild card round, but then also for around that
you've never won in and you've never played on your
home field. And that's one of those things too, that
will Anderson Junior. I remember it last year when they
were doing Black Bag Day. That's where you know you
do the locker clean outs where you get those huge
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industrial size black trash bags.
Speaker 2 (01:46:51):
Yeah, exit for guys to start cleaning things out.
Speaker 3 (01:46:54):
And Will Anderson Junior said, I think the you know,
the charge for us is we got to find a
way to play that next game back here at home,
because he's like, we've seen what this atmosphere is like
for the wild card. If we're able to get it
in the Visional round, well then we're going to the
AFC Championship game.
Speaker 4 (01:47:09):
They can You're going up to Kansas City next week.
It's a top ten scoring offense. But Dan, again, I
think that you're gonna have to turn one of those
field goals into a touchdown. Kana City's averaging twenty five
point four points a game not sound a lot defensively,
Houston giving up sixteen point four points per game. Meet
in the middle probably twenty one. You're gonna need to
(01:47:30):
get at least to twenty one, I think in this
matchup against Kma City.
Speaker 3 (01:47:32):
Well, and it's also too I mean, you know to
the optimistic point you bring up there, I mean that's
where the pessimist to meet comes out. Because again, first
drive of the game yesterday, you're looking good, you're moving
the ball, and there was at least that feeling in
the back of your mind.
Speaker 2 (01:47:46):
I know it was for me.
Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
This is gonna end at a field goal, isn't it?
More often than not, I feel like that the drive
is going to end with Kayimi Fairbarn coming out there,
and it's gonna be maybe for less, maybe more, but
it ain't gonna be for one.
Speaker 2 (01:47:59):
It's gonna be for three.
Speaker 4 (01:48:00):
Can I ask you, out of curiosity, do you ever
get the intuition that the Texans are playing for the
tie instead of going for the win.
Speaker 3 (01:48:08):
I think that probably the intuition is to go a
little bit more conservative offensively because of how good your
defense is. So wherever that fits in the scenario that
you just laid out, that's my answer.
Speaker 4 (01:48:19):
Like I see them more often than not being content
getting a Kaymi fair bearing three pointer than trying to
go for the juggler and get the six.
Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
Well, I mean, that's what it feels like.
Speaker 3 (01:48:28):
I mean, I think in a way you kind of
saw that play out at the end of the half
where it was let's not give them the football back,
but let's also too. I mean, if we go into
the half up by four, we feel just fine about that.
Whereas if you are a little bit more aggressive, you
maybe take a shot or two more down the field
and give yourself an opportunity to go into the break
up seven, as opposed to where you went in there
(01:48:49):
with timeouts still left in your back pocket.
Speaker 2 (01:48:52):
I just wish that they would have had a better
game plan.
Speaker 4 (01:48:54):
Like the part where I'm going to argue about the Texans,
I'll take a B minus performance from the over offensive identity.
I'll take a B minus performance from the defense. It
was a deep performance from coaching, and partially it comes
down to that last drive before halftime. You can't sell
me on the idea of you wanting to be an
aggressive team that feels like it can control its pathway
(01:49:17):
to the postseason when.
Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
You're settling for oh, well, we're.
Speaker 4 (01:49:21):
Getting the ball after the half anyway. So we just
didn't want to go ahead and put the ball in
harm's way. Like be aggressive when it comes to your
play designs, have an identity when it comes.
Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
To what you want to do.
Speaker 4 (01:49:32):
The problem was nobody ever had a good intuition on
what was the idea of that last drive, you asked
Dimika Ryans, Oh, well, you know what, you know, we
just don't want to get the football over because we're
getting in the second half. JJ Watts on the broadcast, guys,
tempo time out. Why are you letting forty seconds be
burnt off the clock? Why are you straddling to the line.
(01:49:55):
Why are you treating this willy nilly? Why are you
just going on up and going through the motions? Like
when you have a former Texan and a former three
time Defensive Player of the Year that knows what it's
like to have the all time winning a season here
and seeing the success of this defense be wasted by
your offense. Just going through the motions that could give
you a pretty good sign of you have no idea
(01:50:16):
what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
And that's the frustrating part.
Speaker 4 (01:50:19):
And that's where again, when you come into these matchups
like against Kansas City and against Los Angeles and against Indianapolis,
I'm sorry, there's a reason why there is still some
self doubt in this organization. And there should be because
the plays like that, Drives like that are backbusters and
their killer for momentum.
Speaker 3 (01:50:37):
To believe that you've made any changes, well, I mean,
it's just also too where I think it comes down
to a couple of things. With Demiko, he trusts his
defense more and he also wants to protect his defense.
And I think that's why you see a lot of
second halfs called the way that they are is for
that very reason. Is because he's telling Nick Cayley, don't
get crazy here. I want to protect my guys. I
(01:50:59):
want to give them a chance to be able to
win this game.
Speaker 4 (01:51:01):
But at the same time, man, you gotta at least
show that you have the stones for every once in
a while.
Speaker 1 (01:51:07):
To go for it.
Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
Well, I think that he would argue of yeah, we did.
Speaker 3 (01:51:10):
I mean, did you see you know us going wild
farmer or whatever the hell you want to call it
with cad Stover not once, but twice what happened and
they both got stuffed.
Speaker 4 (01:51:18):
So again, you have an opportunity to go up by seven.
You have an opportunity to go ahead and end the
game right there and force them to go seventy five yards.
You have an opportunity for you to be able to
at least be up by seven going in a halftime
and then get the ball back and keep that momentum
going into the third quarter in a division rivalry matchup
in a game to where you could take first place.
(01:51:40):
If you win your next two and Indy loses its
next two, you end up having a passive formation that
ultimately has Texans fans frustrated today in all win.
Speaker 2 (01:51:52):
Gary C. You want to get in on the Texans?
What you do that you want to join them?
Speaker 3 (01:51:56):
Seveone three two one two five seven ninety against seOne
three two on two five also one who squeeze in
a little bit of an astros note, because well, you
found out the price was high, and it was probably
even higher than you expected. We'll discuss all that right
here as we continue on the Morning Drive with Dann
and Cole Sports SOX seven ninety.
Speaker 1 (01:52:16):
Back to Dan and Cole as the Morning Drive cruise is.
Speaker 2 (01:52:19):
On Gary in Spring wants to wait in Gary.
Speaker 7 (01:52:23):
Good morning, Hey guys, good morning.
Speaker 6 (01:52:26):
You hear me?
Speaker 7 (01:52:27):
Okay, perfectly?
Speaker 10 (01:52:28):
Yeah, I just wanted to get in real quick early.
I was telling my wife this morning what I do
for a living. I drive around delivering auto parts. So
I listened to you guys, and of course when you
guys go to commercial, I turn the channel to the
other one just to compare what everybody's saying. And of
course this morning, they're all positive about everything because they're
they're they're employed there, the people on that network, they're
(01:52:53):
all employed by the Texas, so they're all pods and everything.
But I told my wife this morning, I said, man,
I can't wait to get on the radio. The Texas
have won six out of the last eight games, winning
all these games by one score, which builds character. Camaraderie
makes you a better, stronger team if you can win
all those games by just one score. So I think
(01:53:14):
it's a good thing, not a bad thing. But I
told her I would hear nothing but negatives on the
on the deal, but I look at it as my
glass is half full of the water and my and
my cup is clear, more clear than money and everything.
So I just was wanted to let some of the
folks out there hear that there is a good side
to all this, because when I hear the you guys
(01:53:36):
this morning, not both, not both of you, but one
of you is a little bit more negative than the other.
But you guys can figure that out between you. But anyway,
I look at it as a good thing, and I
can't wait till the gun till the game Sunday night.
So maybe try to get rid of that little that
dirty water in your cup and replace it with some
clean water so you can see through the cup more
positive and negative. But anyway, you guys, but it would
(01:53:59):
be a boying world, guys if everybody looked at it
the same way. So anyway, keep up the good banner
and go Texans.
Speaker 3 (01:54:07):
You appreciate the call, Garry, I'll try to be less
disdain Dan.
Speaker 7 (01:54:11):
I think that's what I.
Speaker 6 (01:54:14):
Don't.
Speaker 4 (01:54:14):
Well, again, my standards are different, Like I'm sorry, Like
I still believe that at some point, yes, you gotta win.
You got a very signature win yesterday. You were able
to gain ground in the division. You didn't have your fastball,
and you still were able to find a way to
get a victory. But at some point, you're still not
giving me enough juice to believe that this team has
turned the corner entirely, to believe that you're going on
a run of the playoffs, Like, yeah, you may make
(01:54:36):
the playoffs, but we made the playoffs the last two years.
You've been a team that has won against the wildcard
team as the underdog in that matchup the last two
years and then you go as the number four seed
on the road to the number one spot and you
find a way to not be able to deliver and
it's awful and they give you opportunities and you don't
have enough.
Speaker 2 (01:54:54):
So I mean, like, I personally think that right now,
that's all I'm seeing for the Texans team.
Speaker 4 (01:54:59):
Yes you're winning, Yes you're winning one score games, Yes
you're finishing, you're able to go ahead and hold on off.
But you're not showing me anything that's so impressive to
where I look at you, and I look at New England,
I'm like, Yep, you can beat them. I look at you,
I look at the card team, Yep you can beat them.
It all comes down to matchups. The only thing that
I'm saying right now that is better than you, that
(01:55:19):
I guarantee that you can beat is Denver, because you
should have beaten Denver with CJ. Stroud and then he
got hurt and then you watch Bonux win and set
up a game winning field goal by roots tripley.
Speaker 3 (01:55:29):
I don't think he knows about disdain Dan, right, I don't.
I don't think he knows about him yet. So you
know we're gonna we're gonna have to catch Cole up
on that. Some some mornings it does show up, it does,
but this is not one of them. This is uh,
this is delightful Dan today.
Speaker 2 (01:55:44):
And I'll be cranky call. I'm cool with that. It's
all good, all right, Hey, you know we've got a
working title there. We can we can maybe go with them.
Speaker 4 (01:55:50):
I mean, but like, let's be real for a second, Dan,
me completely honest. Yesterday's game, you get a win, You
have won six of your last eight. Do you feel
like that this Textans team is anything better than a
ten and seven roster?
Speaker 2 (01:56:03):
Not with this offense?
Speaker 7 (01:56:03):
Now, I don't.
Speaker 4 (01:56:04):
So again, we're right back at square one. It's year
three for the organization underneath Amiko Ryans and CJ.
Speaker 2 (01:56:11):
Stroud.
Speaker 4 (01:56:11):
You're nowhere near closer to being a threat to win
in the divisional round and make it to your first
ever AFC title game.
Speaker 2 (01:56:18):
You're not there yet.
Speaker 6 (01:56:19):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (01:56:20):
It's wash rinse repeat. Yes, you can feel confident about
winning yesterday all for it. You still ended up still
be in that. You still have been enough faulse around.
Speaker 3 (01:56:29):
Here's the good news though, is it's not like anybody
else out there is head and shoulders better than you.
Speaker 6 (01:56:35):
Like.
Speaker 2 (01:56:35):
Do you think that New England is head and shoulders
better than you?
Speaker 7 (01:56:38):
I do not.
Speaker 2 (01:56:39):
Do you think that Denver is head and shoulders better
than you? Hell should have beaten them.
Speaker 3 (01:56:44):
I mean, whoever comes out of the you know, the
the AFC North, I mean that's one of those too.
That this is where seeding really comes into play. I'm
telling you it's big that that. I mean, if you're
able to possibly lock up with either of those AFC
North teams, and even with you know, Lamar Jackson back
and the players that he didn't have the last time,
(01:57:04):
you still feel good about that, and you feel even
better if it's on your home field.
Speaker 4 (01:57:09):
Here's where I'm at though, when it comes to that part. Yes,
you feel good about winning those games. But at the
same time, I think you need to be higher. I
think you need to be in the top three to
guarantee that you are even in the conversation of winning
the divisional round, cause I will say I still wonder
about New England. New England could be just to flash
the pan really hot starts of the season. They could
(01:57:31):
crumble if you end up matching up against them in
the first round and you're playing in Foxborough in January
and it's a night game just environment itself. I'm taking
New England simply because of that. I've seen enough to
believe that New England is good enough to be able
to win that game.
Speaker 2 (01:57:48):
That's my sandswering.
Speaker 6 (01:57:49):
Well.
Speaker 3 (01:57:49):
But the good news is, though, is you have the
experience they don't, and I mean we see that play
out in the playoffs time and time again.
Speaker 2 (01:57:56):
That I mean, I know what New England is right now.
I don't know what New England is when they get
into the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (01:58:01):
I'll tell you, if you were this, I would feel much.
Here's where I feel the most confident. If the Texans
were the seven seed and they were traveling two mile
high to face off against Ember, because number one, it
would be a day game. Number two it would be
the Saturday game. And number three, I do not Trustember
at all.
Speaker 3 (01:58:14):
In the postseason, well, at least the last nine games,
they've found a way and it's interesting to see if
they can continue that. Uh seven one three two one
two five seven ninety. Get back to some of you
on the phone lines here in just a few but
let's also get back into the lane. Kif from the
LSU conversation because ESPN one oh four five and Baton
Rouge's Matt Moscona also with Louisiana Sports dot Net. He's
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lowdown on how that was able to come to fruition.
So we'll continue as we get into the nine o'clock
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And this is the Morning Drive with Dad and Cole.
Speaker 3 (02:00:33):
And of course Lane Kiffin now the head coach at
LSU and a man who knows all about this story.
From ESPN one oh four to five there in Batonuge,
also Louisiana Sports dot Net. He's all over YouTube scone,
You're everywhere, Like seriously, like, what does that business card
look like for you?
Speaker 2 (02:00:51):
For for all of the irons that you have in
the fire.
Speaker 7 (02:00:54):
I am hard to miss if you're on the internet, man,
you let me get in your algorithm. I am like
a relentless force.
Speaker 3 (02:01:03):
And then I mean even bourbon tips too, because you know,
even offline, I've come to you and been like, hey,
you know I'm at this place, what would you recommend here?
And you the real passion? That's that's the real passion. Yeah,
for sure, for sure, and you live it well my man.
All right, So just broad question, but you know, I
know that there's some answers to it. How did this happen?
(02:01:25):
How are they able to pull this off?
Speaker 7 (02:01:28):
I think verge Osbury LSU'SAD deserves a lot of credit.
And you go back and look at how the last
month transpired where there was a lot of instability around
LSU and you got the governor making the comments he did.
You didn't have a university president and ad or a
football coach. It's hard to go it's hard to go
convince the top tier coach take a job when there's
(02:01:48):
no leadership in place. But LSU did a couple of things. Wisely,
Number one, they stopped talking, which allowed them to work
diligently and tactfully. I think Virgaws did a great job. Man,
he's a name that a lot of people probably don't
know Dan, but Firs has been part of LSU's athletic
administration for thirty years. He's done nearly every job you
(02:02:10):
can imagine. He was supremely qualified for the job. And
he's also very well connected. I mean he has a
standing phone convers He told me he's got a standing
phone called Nick Saban every two weeks. He's known Jimmy
Sexton for a lot of years, part of the search
that hired Nick Saban and bat and Rue twenty five
years ago. So you had a guy that was maybe
(02:02:30):
in a rare position of having relationships to leverage the
people very close to Lane Kiffin, like Saban and Sexton,
to put LSU in his awareness. And the other thing
they did was they were very patient. They told Lane
Kiffin from the beginning, hey go coach collegootball playoff. We
don't need an answer from you. You're a number one guy.
Will wait. They were willing to wait till the end
(02:02:51):
of the playoff, and so I think that removed all
of the pressure of timelines and deadlines and leverage and
a lot of things that come into place for negotiations.
It left Els vulnerable because if Lane Kiven had decided
to stay, they didn't really have a good plan B.
But they really tactfully maneuvered through this whole process over
the last month and really in the last two weeks.
(02:03:14):
Is when it ramped up. Two weeks ago today is
when Lane Kiffin's ex wife, Layla was in Baton Rouge,
and from that point everything shifted to LSU and they
got it to the finish line.
Speaker 4 (02:03:24):
Matt, everything is kind of being put together right now.
You're getting Charlie Wise Junior to get on the plane
with Lane yesterday. Probably the biggest news that dropped earlier
this morning is that Blake Baker's gonna stay on staff.
Speaker 2 (02:03:33):
He's going to be the.
Speaker 4 (02:03:34):
Defense coordinator, bearing a change of heart or an opportunity
to coach elsewhere. Just the impact of having the offense
that has been the Lane Kiffin Express that is a
top twenty scoring unit to pair alongside with what Blake
Baker has done the last two years. How quickly can
a turnaround actually happen out in Baton Rouge with link
given up the helm.
Speaker 7 (02:03:52):
It better happened immediately. I mean, it's listen. Kurtzignetti took
the worst job in college football as Indiana and the
playoffs each of his first two years. The nil and
portal era allows for a rapid turnaround. You no longer
have to wait through a three or four year rebuild,
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and that's going to be the expectation. Listen. Verge Ausbury
when he said at that podium introduced as the athletic director,
he said, LSU has to be in the twelve team
playoff every year, and that expectation. I mean, LSU will
never be short on resources, They'll never be short on talent.
This year things went sideways offensively, but as you mentioned,
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the defense was outstanding. So right now it's retaining this roster,
it's finishing off a recruiting class which starts on Wednesday.
Kiffen doing in the portal what he does every year,
starting next month and getting this team ready to go
to compete to be a collegetable playoff team. Look, there's
massive questions and I'm not saying that's a slam dunk.
(02:04:56):
Go place your bets, but you're asking what the expectation
is how quickly? I mean, this better be a team
contending for the College World Playoff next.
Speaker 3 (02:05:03):
Year again, Matt mascon a ESPN one oh four or
five hosts of After Further Review Weekday afternoons there in
Baton Rouge and like I said, all over the place,
YouTube everywhere in between louisianasports dot Net as well along
those same lines, I mean, just you know, expectations, and
we've been talking about and I think you even mentioned
it about you know what you know Ole miss is
(02:05:25):
doing right now, that's the expectation every single year at LSU.
You've seen enough LSU football there of believing that he
can win a national title. Because is it safe to
say that LSU is one of the few programs Matt
where talent is never necessarily an issue.
Speaker 2 (02:05:40):
It sometimes comes down to coaching.
Speaker 7 (02:05:44):
I mean it shouldn't be because what I always say
Dan about about LSU is its greatest advantage is the dirt.
The LSU is the only power for program in a
talent rich State, and I would say LSU, Ohio State,
and Georgia are the only three they can claim that.
I know, Georgia Tech is in George's well, but if
(02:06:05):
we're being honest, Georgia and Georgia Tech aren't exactly aren't
exactly fishing in the same pond. But the point being
there are I mean, you throw it like. The number
one player in the country this year is ki named
Lamar Brown. He literally goes to University Lab School on
LSU's campus. Number one player in the country. The number
one quarterback in the country for twenty twenty seven is
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Elijahavin at the Dunham School, ten minutes from LSU's campus.
The number one defensive lineman in the country this year,
Richard Anderson's at DNACAR in New Orleans. He's a forty
five minute car ride from Lane Kiffin's office. I mean,
it's just look at Maliite neighbors and Brian Thomas and
Odell and Jarvis and Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson. All
those dudes played high school ball within an hour of
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LSU's campus. They there's an incredible talent here, and all
these kids grow up wanting to go to LSU, and
so yeah, I mean it's always the it's LSU didn't
do anything to earn that. It's just it's just geography.
But it's also the reality. And that's one of the
reasons why LSU is always going to have that advantage
of building a talented roster and when they aren't good,
(02:07:09):
when a season like this happens when you're seven and
five with all the investment, and that's so why Brian
Kelly's not the coach here anymore, but similar because of
those resources. It's why it's why Lane Kiffin is the
coach now, Matt.
Speaker 4 (02:07:22):
When you look at it, it's a seven year contract,
ninety one million dollars.
Speaker 2 (02:07:26):
You just said it.
Speaker 4 (02:07:26):
And it's very clear LSU with what they have, with
how it just sells itself as a program that not
only has premier talent in the state, but also because
of what they can utilize in the transfer portal and
Lane Kiffin's willingness to have the transferportal, this should be
a rebuil that happens immediately. What if it's a seven
and five season in year one, what does the pressure
cooker look like for lan Kiffin going into year two?
Speaker 7 (02:07:49):
I mean, I think that's a pretty really obvious stance
to make a seven and five next year. People are
not going to be happy, man, don't I don't even
know that after his first year to'll miss you out
of seven and five season a five los season. Well,
his first year was the COVID year, so I don't
know that lane Kiffen had a five last season at illness,
but I don't know necessarily to think in those terms.
(02:08:10):
The interesting thing though about lane Kiffen's contract is I
understand it is how they structured the buyout. And again
I haven't seen the contract. I'm sure we all will
all get it when it's public record, but as I
understand it, the two interesting parts of this deal, which
may be what we see deal structured like moving forward.
One is he's going to have a bonus structure similar
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to the NFL, where you have likely to be earned
and not likely to be earned bonuses that will kick
him big time escalators for him. The other is the
buyout where if they win, his buyout will remain large
and robust. If they lose, the buyout will start to shrink.
So it gives LSU some protection, but it also has
enough incentive for laying there. If he wins, that twelve
(02:08:56):
million a year will escalate to thirteen fourteen fifteen, sixteen million,
depending on bonuses and how how it all may escalate.
So it's a it's a it's an interesting way to
structure it where Lane's going to get a lot of
money up front, but he's also going to be incentivized
and rewarded for winning and he won't be rewarded for losing,
which is I think the way things probably should be again.
Speaker 3 (02:09:20):
ESPN one O four five in Baton Rouge's Matt moscona
louisianasports dot Net host of After Further Review weekday afternoons
there in Baton Rouge joining us for a couple of
more minutes.
Speaker 2 (02:09:31):
Just the whole rivalry now between LSU and Ole Miss.
Speaker 3 (02:09:34):
I mean, is this one of those Matt that from
from LSU side, it's kind of like, all right, that's
that's cute, old miss, Like you guys have had a
couple of nice seasons. You're not on our level, and
we just proved it, like this isn't like if they
had dipped over to Alabama and stolen him, or or
Florida or somewhere else like that. Like this is one
of those where it's clear that LSU showed, hey, we've
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got the strong arm here and we're going.
Speaker 2 (02:09:58):
To use it.
Speaker 7 (02:10:00):
I think it's really hard for Old Miss fans to
accept that. Probably some of that reality settles in a
little bit, but man, LSU fans are also a position
where they can empathize with Old Miss on this one,
because you know, twenty years ago Nick Saban left LSU
for the Miami Dolphins, and he had won a national
championship at LSU. His family loved LSU, they loved Baton Rouge.
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LSU gave him every resource he needed to stay and
win as many championships as he want, basically to have
here the run he ended up having at Alabama, and
he left because he wanted something you couldn't provide, and
I mean LSU couldn't offer him the NFL, and it's
the itch he wanted to scratch. And so similarly, you
look at Kiffen and Old Miss gave him everything he wanted.
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I mean, he was the king of Oxford and they
gave him support at il and everything he wanted. But
he also wanted to win championships, not just make a
twelve team playoff, but the opportunity to can pepe for
win championships. And the analogy I give is the comparison is,
you know, a couple of weeks ago, olm Miss played
Florida and it was billed as the biggest game in
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the history of bott Hemingway Stadium. They had sixty eight
thousand people there, which was the largest crowd in the
history of that program. On the same day, LSU at
five and four played two and seven Arkansas at eleven
forty five in the morning and had more people in
Tiger Stadium than ole Miss did on the greatest day
in the history of their football program. Like, that's the
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disparity in the resources, the buy in, the fan involvement, everything,
and it's just the two aren't equal. And Lane Kiffin
has done a great job at ole Miss and he's
elevated that program. But I think what Lane kiffen understood
is there's a there's a lower ceiling at ole Miss
than there is in Baton Rouge, which ultimately is why
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he's the LSU coach today. But I'm gonna tell you,
next year, y'all LSU plays in Oxford, I will not
be in oxy for that day. I will be watching
from the comfort and safety of my own couch because
I don't want any part of what that's going to
look like. Because like I was in Baton Rouge, that
was in Tiger Stadium in two thousand and eight, when
Nick Saban came back for the first time, he was
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the coach at Alabama, and again there was a buffer.
Remember I mean he went He was the coach of
the Dolphins for two years before he went to before
he went to Alabama. Like he didn't leave LSU for Alabama.
This is Lane leaving amid a playoff run in the
conference to what Ole Miss looks at as their biggest rival.
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Like I can't even imagine the vitriol, the anger, the hate,
what Oxford is going to be like next year when
when LSU goes it's I'll watch it. I'll watch it
on TV.
Speaker 2 (02:12:47):
So I'm mat on it with this because you bring
it up, Nick Saban.
Speaker 4 (02:12:50):
He did end up leaving and he went to he
went to Alabama when multiple national championships was able to
change the program of LSU for the better. Whether or
not we want to say that Lane Kiffen was meant
to be an ole Miss for the rest of his career.
He changed the program for the better. In your opinion,
what is the legacy of link given an.
Speaker 7 (02:13:05):
Ole Miss, Well, yeah, he just rewrote it. And I
think that's a that's a talking point that everyone nationally
is going to have and that's something that that he's
going to have to own. But similar with with Saban
when he left LSU and went to the Dolphins and
then went back to back into college and remember Nick
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got burned for the whole I'm not going to be
the Alabama coach comment. But time and winning cures those things.
And so if Lane does have a ten to fifteen
year run at LSU where he wins multiple national championships,
he rewrites his legacy again. But if he burns out
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here in Baton Rouge and doesn't win a championship or
in another three or four years bolts for the NFL, well,
that only can and used to add chapters to the
legacy of the guy that was the youngest coach in
the NFL that probably didn't deserve that opportunity at thirty one,
the guy who left Tennessee after one year, the guy
was fired on the tarmac at USC the guy who
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Nick Sabe and basically dismissed before the National Championship game
because he was so distracted. I mean, all those parts
of Lane Kiffen's legacy are in that story for a reason,
and this is an ugly new chapter the way he's
going to be perceived nationally. But time and winning can
can cure those things. He's got to go do it. Yep.
Speaker 2 (02:14:34):
It heals a lot of things, that's for sure. He's
Matt Moscone.
Speaker 3 (02:14:38):
Matt Moscona again ESPN one oh four to five there
in Baton Rouge's host of After Further Review and also
with Louisiana Sports dot Net scone. You're the best, man.
Appreciate you having a few minutes for us this morning.
I'm sure your phone's been ringing NonStop, man, So we'll
catch up with you again here very soon.
Speaker 7 (02:14:54):
I always happen to do a guys, all of a
great day.
Speaker 2 (02:14:56):
All right, you as well again Matt Moscona.
Speaker 3 (02:14:58):
I mean, like I said, he was all over it
from the beginning, and now well, things get even more
interesting there in Baton Rouge.
Speaker 4 (02:15:05):
He's right about one thing. I mean, you talk about
the legacy, it's going to be one of two things.
You either win, you win big. You're able to go
ahead and continue the legacy of what is program supposed
to be defining culture out in LSU or a lot
of people are gonna be looking at him and saying
Al Davison's deathbedders right about you.
Speaker 2 (02:15:21):
He's put himself out there. There's no question about it's
all right.
Speaker 3 (02:15:24):
We did want to get into one little Astros notes,
so let's squeeze that in before we get Adam Wesler
here in the bottom of the hour. So we'll do
that because it's one that directly affects them and one
that kind of does, but it told you a different
story about the Astros. We'll discuss that here as we
continue on the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole right
here at Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 5 (02:15:46):
Good Morning Drive with Dan and Cole on Sports Talk
seven ninety, home of the Strolls, Rockets and Houston's best
sports talk.
Speaker 3 (02:15:56):
And also Lane Kiffin, the new head coach at LSU's
We just talked with Matt Moscona of ESPN one oh
four to five about him a few minutes ago. We'll
talk some Texans here in a little over five minutes
when our good buddy Adam Wesler hops on with us
from the A team, so we'll recap yesterday's win with him.
Speaker 2 (02:16:16):
But a couple of different things from the Astros.
Speaker 3 (02:16:19):
One of them is something that they had their name
connected to him, but nothing really ever got to something
of substance in terms of contract negotiations, at least we believe,
because Dylan Cees over the weekend signing with the Blue
Jays for a seven year, two million dollar deal. Cole,
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as soon as I saw that deal come down, I said, yeah,
you weren't in that ballpark.
Speaker 4 (02:16:46):
Thank god, Thank you Dana Brown for never even making
that e considerable offer. Thank you go out fun in Toronto,
don't care. And Dylanc's conversation. I'm glad about that. I'm
beyond thankful that that's happening. I'm beyond blood that we
need not to see him go be a part of
this organization because I know what people are gonna say,
He's durable, he needs to change the scenery. Guys, he's durable,
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which means the second that you sign him, that's when
the jury start to pile on up.
Speaker 3 (02:17:14):
Well, I mean, I think if nothing else, it just
kind of I mean, could you have made the argument
it would have been like the pitcher version of possibly
Christian Walker for many more years, but that it could
have been one where it's like, hey, we're paying this
guy to be in front of the you know, front
of the rotation guy, and we're not getting front of
the rotation results.
Speaker 4 (02:17:33):
Well, you're gonna get a guy that will give you
six innings at most in a start, and he'll have
a three point nine to a three point eight RA
and he currently is going to be the fifth highest
paid pitcher in the in the MLB. Here's where he's
making more money than him going into next season. Yoshinobu Yamamoto,
Garrett Cole, Max Reed, Corbyn Burns.
Speaker 2 (02:17:51):
Now here's the reason why I throw all those names
out there.
Speaker 4 (02:17:54):
I do not think for one second Dylan Cees is
better than any of those guys you want know who
I think could be as good as those guy Hunter Brown.
And if you're going to pay thirty million dollars for
an asking price on Dylan Cees, it's going to be
forty million dollars for Hunter Brown.
Speaker 2 (02:18:08):
He is going to leave you. He is going to
sign elsewhere.
Speaker 3 (02:18:12):
And the other part too, is that it sounds like
the trade market for Jake Myers is ramping up even
more some notes from Ken Rosenthal that the Astros centerfield
are coming off a modest offensive breakout season is one
player that could help trigger some moves, either through free
agency or trade. With a few quality center fielders available
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out there, MLB trade rumors projects that Myers is going
to earn three point five million in the first of
his two remaining club control gears with the Astros.
Speaker 2 (02:18:42):
The Astros are.
Speaker 3 (02:18:43):
Open to moving him for a controllable major league starter,
according to people briefed on their discussions, and the interest
in Myers entering his age thirty campaign is considerable.
Speaker 2 (02:18:54):
Is considerable other clubs say.
Speaker 4 (02:18:56):
Okay, so basically you're saying, let's get a number two starter.
We'll trade to Jake Myers. We'll throw something else in
the package, but that's where we're going to do it.
I mean, this is one of those two that I mean,
you're going to see him dangled out there. Bryce Matthews.
Speaker 3 (02:19:08):
It sounds like is a trade chip that people are
also interested in, and he's log jammed here. I mean,
it's just you're not gonna be able to put him
at second I mean anywhere else in the enfield. I mean,
I understand that maybe you had future plans for him,
but I think it also too is somebody that can
help be able to jump start because Myers alone is
not going to get you that. You're going to have
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to have at least one or two more guys that
are going to even remotely get you.
Speaker 4 (02:19:32):
In that conversation, you have to have a serious thought
process this offseason about what you want to do with
Bryce Matthews, and that role is. You got to see
if he can be the next more Easo Dubon, if
he can be that dude who is a utility player
that will go into either corner outfield spot, play in
the infield, get some reps at third base, be an
all around player by all means, keep them around. If
you think that he is destined to play in the
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only middle infield, you gotta trade him because if you're
not moving off Jeremy Panya, you're not going to be
able to move Hosel two. He is going to have
to play partially at second base. Escoch Parades could get
looks at second base. You have Carl's Korea at third
There's not a spot for him on the roster, so
you might as well get something back in return while
you know that he is out of the conversation.
Speaker 2 (02:20:13):
Here, here's the where we are with the logjam.
Speaker 4 (02:20:15):
Also, Dan, you're at a point of where you have
a lot of these guys in sugar Land that are
ready for the majors. They doesn't have a spot to go,
So you're basically wasting their tenure where being in sugar
Land when you could trade them, get some valuable options
and put yourself in a position to where you still
are competitive in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (02:20:33):
Let's get back into the Texans conversation, because well, the
man is mister Texan all in his own and he
is part of the a team every single weekday afternoon
two to six. Here on Sports Talk seven ninety, Adam
Wexler recapping that yesterday's game with us.
Speaker 2 (02:20:47):
We'll do that right here. So it is the morning
Drive with Dan and Coles Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 15 (02:20:53):
This is Joyce Potto listening to the Astros on your
radio and on the free I Heart Radio app. Sports
Talk seven ninety is your home fil Astros Baseball.
Speaker 3 (02:21:05):
A man who is all over the Texans and the Rockets.
You hear them every single weekday afternoon two to six
with Adam Clanton on the A team, he's Adam Wexler.
Little recap of yesterday's Texans win. Wex I mean, you know,
it's one of those things in Me and Cole have
talked about it and it's been kind of a you know,
ongoing talking point for us here is doesn't it feel
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like with the Texans, you get this this defense at
least twenty points, you feel good that you're going to
win that game.
Speaker 13 (02:21:34):
Well, ten times they've held the opponent to twenty or less,
best in the NFL, so it's pretty good philosophy. You
think the record would actually be even better than that,
but they just don't put a whole lot of points
on the board. I'm not sure why they love the
late game drama when they really don't need to, but
that's how they play it and I don't imagine it's
going to change over the final five games of the season.
Speaker 2 (02:21:54):
Welex Why am I still being pessimistic about this team?
Speaker 4 (02:21:57):
Like I still feel like that there are things about
them that drive me crazy to where, yeah, you're gonna
be a playoff team. You'll probably go eleven and six
you'll win the division, but we're gonna see the same
results we saw last year. You'll go host a playoff game,
you'll win that matchup. You're going the road against the
number one team, You'll lose him fatot fashion.
Speaker 13 (02:22:14):
I don't know. Maybe you're a wet blanket, but I
don't think this postseason is going to be at all
like the previous postseasons because everything's kind of flipped upside
down right now. You got the Chiefs outside the playoffs.
You got the Ravens stumbling to a division title. Maybe
you have the Bills winning this week but not looking
very impressive and clearly showing obvious holes. As the Texans
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laid out, these are the teams that have been in
your way for several years. I don't know that the
Patriots or the Broncos, or the Chargers, obviously not the
Colts present that kind of challenge to Houston or anybody else.
They might have these impressive records. The Broncos and Patriots
additionally have impressive winning streaks. Patriots will put theirs on
the line tonight, but they're obviously extremely eatable. And that's
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the difference this year in the AFC. I mean, the Patriots.
Let's say they go in as the number one seed.
Will anybody pick them to win the AFC? I think
that number will be extremely small.
Speaker 3 (02:23:11):
Again, Adam Wexler with the A team, join us here
on the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole, and let's
take the Texans out of it for a second. But
the two other teams in the AFC South that you
need to try to overtake. That's Indian, that's Jacksonville. How
do you see these next five weeks going for those
two teams?
Speaker 13 (02:23:30):
Honestly, if those teams split their games against each other,
they play this coming game and then they play in
week seventeen. If that's a split, Texans will win the division.
I think it's as simple as that. Texans will win,
you know, two of their next three, minimum maybe all three.
The way the Chiefs are playing, I don't know what
the Chargers will look like at that point in the season.
They kind of find a way each week, but not
in very impressive fashion. And obviously you close with the Colts.
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But if the Jaguars don't sweep the Colts, or the
Colts don't sweep the Jaguars, most likely the Texans are
actually have the tiebreaker with every team. They're already four
and one in the division. They've obviously already played very
well in their AFC games, which tends to be more important.
Obviously from a tiebreaker standpoint. Common opponents, all those things
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are probably gonna be in their back pocket. The game
this week is huge to that end. But the Texans
and winning this division is it's staring them right in
the face, and essentially they control their own destiny for that.
Because those two teams play each other twice.
Speaker 4 (02:24:28):
The Wexler research team had a couple of hours to
go ahead and get this information in what's the CA
CJ shoan in his return.
Speaker 13 (02:24:36):
I think he shows the difference between he and Davis
Mills every time he goes out there, whether it's this
time because it was directly after you got to see Davis.
He doesn't necessarily like to take what's there. He doesn't
like the short underneath nonsense that gets you up and
down the field. He likes to make plays, and good
quarterbacks play like that, and everything I'm saying is a
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good thing. Usually it's a very very good thing. Would
have liked to have that throwback, and.
Speaker 7 (02:25:02):
That's what he'll do. That Davis.
Speaker 13 (02:25:03):
Mills just wouldn't do. Davis didn't turn the ball over
after his third pass of his three game stint, and
that's the difference. He will not try to do anything.
They'll call plays, they call for Davis to throw to
his first read, Well, that is what Davis is going
to do.
Speaker 7 (02:25:18):
CJ.
Speaker 13 (02:25:18):
Stroud had plenty of pass protection yesterday. That was one
of the first times this season where more often than
not he could scan the field, he could look down
the field. He did attempt ten passes to Nico Collins.
These are the things you want to see. His performance
was fine, not one of his best performances, but he
did move the ball down the field, you know, two
hundred and seventy plus yards. The way that they played
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offense yesterday through the air showed you what he wants
this offense to be. I would guess that this would
be one of his poorer days the rest of the way.
I think he's going to play better than this. Each
of the starts that come up next to this. Totally
fine with how he played. Obviously looked. He did look
a little rusty. One play in particular might not be
the same one ever, everybody else dislikes as much, but
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he cannot continue to take the sacks that he does.
I don't mean getting sacked, I mean turning a three
or four yard loss into an eleven or twelve yard loss.
He just constantly believes he can outrun a defender, outspin
a defender, and it's totally unnecessary either throw the ball
away or go down. He just lose them extra unnecessary
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yardage and it's been a staple of his three year career.
Speaker 3 (02:26:27):
Wex, we know what Demiko Ryans wants to be on
both the offensive and defensive line, but at least on
the offensive side, we know what they're not. But it's
again yesterday, short yardage, third down, you get stuffed, all right, Hey,
let's go forward on fourth down.
Speaker 2 (02:26:42):
We all knew how that was going to play out.
Speaker 3 (02:26:43):
I mean, is this just pretty much something that we
just got to deal with, Like they're going to continue
to bang their head against this wall and continue to
not break through.
Speaker 13 (02:26:53):
I mean they ran it four times. I guess you
could say they were successful two times and unsuccessful two times, Right, Yeah,
Kate Stover at war carries. I mean, I don't know
that we knew how it was going to play out.
I wouldn't call that play. I don't like that scenario
for an offensive line that doesn't push. Stover is the
one who made the play. It's not you are trying
to overcome your offensive line there, which is why you
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shouldn't run the play. There are plenty of other things
to do. Those weren't Those weren't even the worst direct
snap plays they had. The direct snap play in the
red zone to Nip Chubb is moronic, absolute insanity. They
ran other good red zone plays. Obviously, the Nico Collins
touchdown was a nice wrinkle. They have so many more
plays in their playbook. And this is a NFL wide issue.
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That is banging your head against a wall because there's
a wall of defenders there. The Eagles success rate on
their own tush pushes. And by the way, I'm not
going to be calling these Texans plays tush pushes because
I like to be active.
Speaker 2 (02:27:48):
I said, the Farmers Carry is a good name. The
Farmers carry for for Kate Stover quarterback sneak.
Speaker 4 (02:27:54):
It isn't.
Speaker 13 (02:27:55):
We don't have to be super creative. It's a QB sneak.
He's playing quarterback, that's all it is. It's okay, it's
not a terrible idea, and I'm glad that they put
somebody in there that can probably get those yards. But
I do think the length they had to go on
three of them was way too far for that play call.
The length they had to go on the first one
that was successful, that's when you call it, but you
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also call it over and over and over again, and
it got less successful the more they called it. The
cults are probably more upset about their play call, with
Tyler Warren considering he couldn't even handle the football. But
there's just so much more to do there. I know
they want to keep it simple and they don't want
to get too you know, think too much. Well, they're
actually not thinking enough. These teams that think, well, there's
a you know, ten thousand pounds on one side and
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we've got eight thousand pounds on our side, we'll win.
It's not good math.
Speaker 2 (02:28:41):
Well, ax, I gotta do.
Speaker 4 (02:28:42):
I gotta pick your brain on this one, because you
and I probably see it the exact same way. I
what in the actual hell was going on in that
last drive before halftime? What was Demika Ryan's thinking? What
was the narrative there? Because whenever I have this conversation.
I say, you play for the tie, you don't go
for the jugular moments. It's like that, a minute fifty
one on the clock, two timeouts, going through the motions
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at halftime, and then using an excuse of, oh, well,
you know what, we get the ball in the second half,
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (02:29:08):
What did you take away from that?
Speaker 13 (02:29:11):
I think he played it like a defensive coach. I
don't want the other team to get the ball back.
If they don't get the ball back, they can't score.
I think that's the way he played it. I think
that's the way he does it often, more often than not,
in that situation, they've been much more aggressive. And after
they you know, the first play, you'd think, okay, perfect,
we know where we're headed. We're headed down the field.
Let's go ahead and move a little bit more equivalent,
let's run no huddle's let's keep this tempo going. And
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even when they didn't, they still had a second chance
to kind of change their mindset. You know, after they
got the second completion ton Eco Collins, they're at the
forty five and they have timeouts, they have a chance
to go. I was a little surprised with how they
operated and really the play calls because everything was looking
underneath to everybody when they weren't thrown an ego. But
I think that's the simple answer is he just thought,
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at that situation, with where they were, I'm not going
to give them a chance to get anything before halftime.
I want I'm going into the half of the lead.
That's all there is to it. And I think he
played it that way. That's the answer to what was
he thinking. I don't think that's the correct way to
think with everybody else that's saying, why don't they try
to score points here? That's the simple answer again overthinking things.
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Even in a game that they won, even in a
game where they held on to the lead right there
at the half, I think I would have played it
rather differently.
Speaker 3 (02:30:21):
He gave the scenario for how this team is a
playoff team as the division winner. Let's go through another scenario.
If the Texans win Sunday night in Kansas City, are
they a playoff team?
Speaker 13 (02:30:33):
But they're a playoff team regardless?
Speaker 2 (02:30:37):
Easy enough?
Speaker 13 (02:30:37):
I mean, what scenario is going to keep them out
of the playoffs? That would be losing to the Chiefs,
Chargers and Colts. Basically, I mean if this team has
six losses, which let's say it's the Chiefs, they have
seven losses, they're in a bad spot. So two games,
if they lose two out of these final five, they'd
be in a tough spot. They lose one or less.
And honestly, at this point, I don't think it matters
to whom they're going to the playoffs because whomever it is,
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if it's the Chiefs, that's really the only team that
would have the tiebreaker over them. And now you're just
basically saying the Chiefs are going to win out and
at some point people are going to understand these aren't
the same Chiefs. These Chiefs don't win every close game.
These Chiefs basically don't win any close games. So I
like the Texas chances to win this week. So yeah,
if they win this week, they're going to the playoffs.
But I already think they're doing I mean, I think
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they're going to the playoffs regardless WEX.
Speaker 4 (02:31:23):
Let me ask you before we gets John ADDI here,
who's the one team that you want to face off
against in the first round, whether it be as a
wildcard team or as the AFC South champions.
Speaker 13 (02:31:32):
Well, it'd be awesome if the Ravens or Steelers. Basically,
if the Ravens allow the Steelers to win the division
and that's the team you match up against, that would
be the best thing. Ever, the Steelers are a bad
football team. I don't think the Ravens are much better.
I definitely don't think the Jaguars are much better. And
that's three teams right out of the gate. At any
one of them. I don't even think the location of
the game would make a difference in terms of the
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Texans being favored in any of those situations. You add
to it, they've already beaten the Bills. You add to that,
they've already beaten the Colts. They have an opportunity this
week to beat the Chiefs. Any of these teams, That's
what I was saying from the beginning. Where's the I
don't know how they're going to beat this team. In
the AFC, we wouldn't say that about any of them,
all right.
Speaker 4 (02:32:11):
Real fast, you got to go face off. You're the
seven seed to go up against the number two seed
in Denver. You get revenge of that matchup.
Speaker 13 (02:32:17):
Absolutely. I think the Texans would already be one to
zero against the Broncos of CJ finished that game.
Speaker 2 (02:32:22):
Yep, totally agree, totally agree. Yeah, quick and to the point.
Speaker 3 (02:32:26):
Adam Wexler again part of the A team every single
weekday afternoon two to six right here on Sports Talk
seven ninety and you can see him also on Space
City Home Network from three to six. Wellx appreciate it, man.
Always great to catch up with you, and we'll be
listening this afternoon.
Speaker 13 (02:32:43):
Great to be a part of the morning drive.
Speaker 3 (02:32:45):
There you go, how about it? Well, you know we'll
have to have you back a lot more often appreciated, buddy, you.
Speaker 4 (02:32:51):
Got it, man, He's one hundred percent right, and I'm
frustrated they should have won that game against Dember. I'm
more mad about that game than any other game they
had this year, including the jist.
Speaker 3 (02:33:00):
Well, I mean, speaking of getting mad, there was somebody
over the weekend that faked like they were mad, and
then there was somebody else that was actually mad. We'll
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Speaker 1 (02:34:30):
They are all Morning Drive.
Speaker 3 (02:34:32):
Here's Dan Matthews and Cole Thompson, Larry and Stafford wants
to weigh in at seven one three two one two
five seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (02:34:40):
Good morning, Larry Lawrence, Good.
Speaker 6 (02:34:42):
Morning, Good morning, bull dog. I hope you had a
wonderful Thanksgiving. I don't hope the same thing for your
partner up there cold because, like uh WEG said, he
here wit blanket on this rainy monday. Man. Cole, what's
wrong with you? You know?
Speaker 7 (02:34:58):
I wish you a happy Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (02:34:59):
Ho what's wrong with you?
Speaker 6 (02:35:02):
What's wrong with you?
Speaker 7 (02:35:03):
You?
Speaker 6 (02:35:03):
You? You just not want to buy in that the
Texas defense can go anywhere in the country, no matter
if it's in January, and play cold weather football in
New England.
Speaker 13 (02:35:13):
Look, Larry, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (02:35:16):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 6 (02:35:16):
I do.
Speaker 4 (02:35:17):
The defense is not what I worry about whatsoever. You
tell me that this is a defense about between New
England or Denver on the road. Absolutely, they're gonna show up,
show up?
Speaker 6 (02:35:29):
Can the offense show up and the offense show they
could show up? We see Demko said it the other day.
We see the blueprint. We we all we need is
twenty points. You saw it yesterday. We we're gonna take
away whatever you do very very well, Jonathan Taylor, and
we're gonna make your least average quarterback try to beat us.
(02:35:52):
And if you give that defense twenty points, I don't
give a damn run they play at they can play
in the Walmart parking lot in Stanford. They don't beat you.
And here's the thing about what happened yesterday. When everybody
was out here screaming about replacing CJ. Stroud and all
this other stuff, they failed to remember what life was
(02:36:12):
like before CJ. Stroud got here. And he reminded them
yesterday that was that his eight plus game. No, that
was probably a B game. But we know that he
has the ability to improve. That offense is doing just
enough to be able to get the ball to our
defense and win games. And as far as anybody else
(02:36:33):
in the now's in the Football League, the Chiefs and
all these other teams, they got to worry about the
fact that once this team gets rolling and they see
what that defense is gonna do to their quarterbacks, it's
gonna be a hard game for them. But here's where
I'm at it was a great Thanksgiving for your boy,
because my lonehorns made all them Maggie's cry. Then my
Texans go up to Indianapolis and Eastern shrimp cocktail at
(02:36:56):
Saint Elmo's and then beat them down, Coach Sass. And
now we get to going ruin the ch season. Cole,
It's gonna be all right, man. Let's focus on getting
Jake Myer dance up out of here and figuring out
what the MASO is gonna do, and Dan, you and
I'll talk more baseball.
Speaker 7 (02:37:09):
Later in a hall.
Speaker 2 (02:37:11):
I appreciate it, Larry, Yeah, what's your problem? What is
your problem over there?
Speaker 3 (02:37:16):
I mean, you know, look, I'm not saying we both
have to be positive pats here, but you know, why
don't you meet me halfway here now?
Speaker 2 (02:37:23):
Not that I listen.
Speaker 4 (02:37:24):
Good, good game plan, offensively, defensive always, You've always been
good defensively, So got to answer the question offensively. Talk
talk to me next Monday when you go into Arrowhead
on Sunday night football a place you have never won
in the Damiko Ryans era, and get a win and
also positive tripley.
Speaker 3 (02:37:41):
I think he just hit us with I ain't the
one today is not the day Twofer we got. We
got a two for the price of one from Cole.
Speaker 2 (02:37:47):
And ain't that. I'm sorry, guys, Listen, great defensive performance.
I've said that for back to back years. Great execution
on the side of the ball.
Speaker 4 (02:37:57):
With Demiko Ryans has thrived offensively, I got I see
more than twenty points.
Speaker 2 (02:38:01):
All right, let's close it out with this.
Speaker 3 (02:38:02):
So we of course we're watching the Texas Texas A
and M game on Friday night and Texas able to
win that one twenty seven to seventeen, and A and
M was favored in this game. And I don't think
it would have surprised people if A and M had
won finish off the undefeated season. You know, we would
have had to commemorative cups, the T shirts, the hats,
the license plate holders, you know, all of those things
(02:38:23):
to remind you that in twenty twenty five they went undefeated.
But still, I don't think you're gonna get the same
zing with those at eleven and one. But still, you're
a playoff team. Your consolation prize is our buddy. Peter
Burns of the SEC Network pointed out, you're gonna get
a home playoff game good for you on that well,
fake mad, real mad or two bits of audio that
(02:38:45):
we have the fake mad is Texas head coach Steve
Sarkisian afterwards CJ.
Speaker 2 (02:38:51):
Vogel with Inside Texas.
Speaker 3 (02:38:53):
I guess he had picked against the Horns, and let's
just say that Sarka wanted to let him know that, Hey, dude,
you were coach.
Speaker 2 (02:39:01):
Fifth straight week, you've thrown it, by the way, picked
us to lose tonight.
Speaker 13 (02:39:05):
If anybody was wondering, I did.
Speaker 2 (02:39:07):
Indeed, thanks for rehashing that one. Uh but fifth straight
week you've called the team knows that too, CJ. What
I know, see light moment. It's all good.
Speaker 3 (02:39:18):
You know he's not upset. But there were also people
that I saw that responded to that of what a rabbit.
Here's like, what do you care?
Speaker 4 (02:39:26):
Everyone I know in the national spotlight pick text saying
and to win this game. Steve Sarcasian, please make sure
that you go ahead and call on every single person.
If you want to go ahead and act that way,
by all means, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (02:39:35):
You want to go you want to go ahead and.
Speaker 4 (02:39:37):
Have that conversation, do it, but do so by making
sure that you call every single person on out when
they ask.
Speaker 7 (02:39:42):
You a question.
Speaker 3 (02:39:43):
Now we get to the real mad because Texas was
celebrating on the field.
Speaker 1 (02:39:47):
It was a loud.
Speaker 3 (02:39:48):
Atmosphere there inside DKR Memorial Stadium. Let's just say in
the postgame A and M head coach Mike Elco was
not too pleased about hearing the celebration while he was talking,
we didn't.
Speaker 2 (02:39:59):
Play the way needed to.
Speaker 12 (02:40:00):
Can we close the door and run a professional press conference?
Speaker 7 (02:40:03):
Please?
Speaker 4 (02:40:04):
My gosh, sorry, Look, have you ever if you've ever
been in DKR, you understand that they have the small, little,
basically woodshed type room for reporters to be on in
and reporters were walking in late and you can hear
as the fans are cascading out cheering on and they
(02:40:27):
just lost their perfect season. Batted Aggie syndrome alive, and well, yeah,
I get the frustration. I do run a professional press conference. Yeah,
that's that's that's what the problem was.
Speaker 3 (02:40:37):
That's why we lost this damn games because you use
stiffs in here.
Speaker 4 (02:40:41):
Win in four quarters in Austin and don't live up
to the little brother syndrome. Do that and then have
a conversation Mikelco Aggie fans can say what they want,
but this burns them. This burns Oh it sucks. Oh
spare me, spare me on. Oh well, you know what,
we went to love them one and we're going to
the playoff. You lost to Texas and they get to
brag about this for the rest of the year.
Speaker 7 (02:41:01):
Yeah, you want to.
Speaker 2 (02:41:01):
You want to have your cake and eat it all too.
Speaker 1 (02:41:03):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (02:41:03):
Appreciate everybody who jumped on with us today. Always appreciate Tripley,
Emmanuel Elmore, Cole Thompson, Dan Matthews. Also special thanks to
Matt Moscona VSPN one O four five and Adam Lexler too.
The A team hopping on with us. We will talk
to you in twenty hours. The Matt Thomas Show with
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