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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is the morning drive with Dad and Cole, as.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Well as the rockets tonight with one on the floor,
a little bit of a late night. So I don't
know about you, and you know, it's one of those
you know, just this is where we can get started,
you know, just momentarily, like the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. I
always enjoy the Wednesday before Thanksgiving because that's like the
family comes to town.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Some of them you avoid some of them.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You've probably like to be a couple of pops deep
before you even talk to them, you know.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
So there's a little bit of that.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
So you also had the conspiracy theory uncle or the
person that's gonna bring a politics of the day tea.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
There's none of that.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It's just more of with the side of the family
that usually we spend Thanksgiving with. I mean, look, I
think most people can agree. And I'm pretty self effacing.
I can say it. I've got my goofiness, I've got
my tendencies. I'm fully aware of it. But they like
it's to another level where like I'm like, Mom, like
I'm going to leave if this continues.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
That's just main It's a holiday season, dude. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I don't care. It's it's it's football is on. I
don't want to play s categories. I don't want to
play boggle. I don't want to play any of these
other games. Like they want to play games they want
to do like karaoke and things like that. And I'm like,
first of all, karaoke when you're a grown up needs
to probably be a couple of drinks deep.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Oh that's so, that's the rule. I thought that was
the requirement. I would think so too.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Yeah, you show on up, you're twenty one. You see
the idea. They give you three shots and then you're
a lot of singer songs. But that's the thing. It's like,
you know, they want to start like one year. One
of my cousins, let's do a trivia content.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I'm like, no, no, no, no, you do that.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
That's very fair to no, no, no, do it the
way that I do it. Because I have Thanksgiving today,
so my family is doing Thanksgiving at four o'clock this afternoon.
Because on a family that's going to be around tomorrow,
so all day tomorrow I just can sit back and
watch football. So I'm going to enjoy doing the trivia.
I'm going to enjoy having fun with the family. I'm
gonna play categories. I'm gonna call you in the middle
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of this categories and asking for a question and an answer,
and then you're going to help.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I want to win, ladies, gentlemen. I don't think if
you know this about me. I'm here to win every
single time, in every single competition. I want to be
the best, and that includes beating the crap out of
my family in categories.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Well, it's like there was an old buddy of mine
that at bar trivia, which you know how they tell you,
you know, no cheating, no cell phones. So then I
came to find out that when he kept texting me,
I go text me one more time.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I'm texting the guy who runs it guy, and then
he did so.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Then I texted the guy who runs it and I said, hey,
table whatever they're they're cheating, don't be that guy.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
No, because I was like, leave me alone, dude, leave
me alone. Then put your phone on mute. No, it's fine,
I need to have my phone on me, but like,
it's not fine if you bet him on. Do not
disturb though. If you do that, it kills two birds
with one stone.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Now eventually it did get to permanently do not disturb
as and blocked.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
So anyway, that's what you're talking about. The rockets. How
was that?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Oh well, I mean there's no rockets last, but there
is some tonight. So now you've got them. But you
got the Texans though, to get ready for as they're
gonna get back out on the practice field today to
get ready for the Colts. And this is something that
I think is a evergreen topic throughout the show today.
I was listening yesterday and Derek Schultz from Locked on
(03:18):
Colts was on with the Matt Thomas Show. He said
something and I was just like, you know what, He's
not wrong, and that is the pressure is off the
Texans for this game if you really think about it,
because this is the Colts team that's lost two of
their last three. They have not looked the same offensively.
Danny Dimes has not looked the same offensively, and this
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is a charging Texans team.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I will push back and say there is not a
lot of pressure on the Texans as a team to deliver.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
There is a lot of pressure on CJ.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Stroud to come on out swinging and prove why he
is the right, guys, QB won that I will push
back on because Davis Mills. I'll stand on this. There's
a ceiling with him. You are probably gonna win five
six games. That's all you can ask for. That's fine
as a backup quarterback. But you did win you three games.
You're on a three game win streak with Davis Mills
as you're starting quarterback.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
And trust me, you and I both know it's because
of your defense.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
It's been only it's been one of the best, if
not the best defense in the NFL since twenty thirteen.
They're on a warpath to be dubbed alongside Legion of
Boom be dubbed alongside nineteen eighty five Bears.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
They're gonna show on UP. I think the wide.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Receivers are gonna show on UP. I think of the
play calling that was very much decibullet in the first half.
Moving on UP, I make up words. It's fine, say
I was just like I, I I don't know. We
know we also know i'ld just move with it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Miss keeping go with it.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
C J.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Stroud is the big storyline here because CJ. Stroud, coming
off of concussion protocol now wanting to keep momentum moving
in the right direction. These are your two most important
games left on the schedule in my opinion, because if
you beat Indianapolis at least it gives you a little
bit of ground in the AFC South Division standings. And
if you beat Kansas City, well, then you're in the
wildcard standings. Because if you beat Kansas City at the
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end of the day both of you were ten and seven,
that headhead's gonna play a big factor.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Well, and you know, one of the other points that
Schultz brought up is that with Indianapolis, there are no
more easily egleable or birdiea Bowl holes for them for
the rest of the way on their schedule. He was
talking about, you got Texans twice, You've got Jacksonville twice.
I forget a couple of other teams he had in there,
but he was like, there's no more Dolphins, there's no
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more Raiders, there's no more This is the hard part.
This is this is this part of the schedule for
the Colts where they're looking at this game and they're like,
we're at home.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
This is a game that we've.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Got to have Seahawks and forty nine ers or the
other two, one at home, one on the road.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Okay, I mean in Seattle, I believe is on the road,
and Seattle has been incredibly good at home. I mean
that's been one of the toughest places to play in
the NFL. So I mean this is just this is
where you know it comes into focus for the Texans
where I mean keep the foot on the pedal, man,
because I mean, you go in there, you get to
win your seven and five and I mean, and I
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believe at that point Indy would be eight and four,
so you're only a game behind them, and I mean
you could even get into the half scenarios here that
you've got that win. So it's almost like in baseball
getting to win on an off day when the other
team is off that day, so you're able to gain
a half a game right there. So I mean, in essence,
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you would be looking at this as a game and
a half swing.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
At this point.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
You still need to be able to watch as Jacksonville
finds a way to fumble the bag, because that they
would have a half game lead over you, which is
where we are in the division standings. But from the
standpoint of the Texans, yeah, there's not a lot of
pressure on you. I still want see you execute. I
still want see you deliver, because if I want to
know that when you're going toward the playoff, this is
a team that you could have a little bit of
faith in that they're gonna deliver, because again, you have
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the pieces defensively, you have the pieces offensively. Do you
have the proper play calling? Have you fixed some things
on the offensive line?
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Dude?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I mean, remember the offensive line was great last week.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
One pressure, one tackle for loss, zero ro sacks allowed,
nearly everybody grated with the passing eligible pass blocking grade
by PFF, like it was all great. I want to
see this continue against a better defense that I think
is going to be mentally prepared to take you on,
a better offense that has probably the best running back
in the NFL this season, and a quarterback that still
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he was very hot to begin the year. Maybe he
was in a two game lump. Now we're going back
seeing and be the reason why Indianapolis has sit at.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Eight and four.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And I mean it would also just for you know,
the Texans, being able to get two really good players
back this week would be huge and we'll find that
out today as both CJ. Shroud and Jalen Petrie. You
can have a lot of people looking to see where
number seven and number five are on the field, and
that did Petrie.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
He did get some work last week.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Day he was limited like cjlst okay, So I mean,
but CJ was limited on the Tuesday, Belove, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
And CJ was limited on the Tuesday. You had Jalen
come back on the Monday and the Tuesday, So technically
Jalen could clear concussion protocol before he even takes the
field today. So CJ is the one that you got
away for after the day of seeing Clayton got So.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I mean, if we're probably taking a guest that today,
it would be Jalen Petrie's full participant. He's out there,
he's good to go, I would say, so CJ will
be the limited one. But I'm wondering if like limited,
they're like, you know, hey, even though you're not taking
the full eleven on eleven reps here and scout, you know,
he's gonna he's gonna be standing by right there, listening
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to what the calls are, all that kind of stuff,
and you know, kind of taking it through mentally, and
then tomorrow probably would have to guess that he's out.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
There run probably run with the first team in any
drill that isn't EV eleven.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
That would be my theory today.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
And then afterwards he's sitting with Nikaylee Girod and have
a conversation about what the game plan is see.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And that's the thing too, is I believe that Matt
covered this too, you know, just just getting back which,
by the way, I mean it was a great conversation
Derek Schultz again, who covers the Colts for locked on
Colts up there in Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
And I mean, they're they're preparing for c. J. Stroud.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
They're not.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
They're not preparing for Davis Mills. There's no need to
prepare for Davis Mills. Why why not? I mean everyone
in the city apparently wants to see ten run out there.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I think that you're you're confusing a handful of callers
and a couple of tweeters as people who say, oh no, no, no, right,
run it back, keep Davis Mills out there.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Well, you know, I don't.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I don't think that there are most Texans fans who
would say, you know what, I feel so much better
about this team making a run through the rest of
the season and into the playoffs with Davis Mills over
c J.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Strout.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
You know what they say, when you're on a heater, man,
you got to play the hot hand.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
You're not on a heater though, Like you've won a
few hands at the table. You broke even basically at
the table.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Is what you did? You did You didn't lose your
bank roll, all right, That's that's that's what it was
with Davis Mills. I made the comparison last week and
I mentioned it friends over at Channel thirteen they had
their Davis Mills apology slips and I commented because Charlie
Edsity was the one who posted.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
It, and I just said, hey, look, he did fine,
all right.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Backup quarterbacks are like the kid who stays home when
mom and dad goes out of town. Don't get arrested,
don't burn the house down. And he didn't do either
of those things. He did his job. It's fine.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Led a team back in a sixteen point comeback against
Jacksonville to guarantee a winning the division, thirty six yards
in the second half against the Buffalo Bills, and don't
break Davis Mill's experiment.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Ladies and gentlemen, and don't break the vase.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
If you break the vase, break break the one that's
not as valuable as the one up front.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I mean the vase.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Well do you say vass See I've said, I've said
vase for my entire life, but then I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I don't know, Like, why do you like.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Turn at a certain age and it thought that it
was a lower vas? Yeah, I mean it's very intellect man.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
It's vase. I guess I don't know. I mean maybe
so maybe maybe it is just a hey, you know,
let's just go ahead and say it. And I feel
like I'm in a safe territory if I say that.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Seven two seven ninety jam packs show today for all
of us here. Not only will we have Colts beat
writer Mike Chappell from Fox fifty nine joining us to
give us his preview, Aaron Wilson moving him on up
to the nine o'clock hour, A little football talk too, dude.
I mean, let's let's just be real. Last night we
saw where Texas came in in the college football playoff rankings.
(11:07):
It's very clear chaos is going to have to ensue
for them to win to get on into the postseason.
It starts by beating Texas A and M on Friday
night where you can listen right here Sports TX seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, and Alex Miller from the Brian college station Eagle.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
He's going to join us.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Coming up just a little over an hour is when
we're gonna talk with Alex and then Shahan. You're gonna
have to say it's like Jean from CBS. Sure, Shahanjuraja. Okay, Okay,
So that's that's that's easy to remember.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
All right, very very easy to remember when you've had
enough time knowing how to pronounce it.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Okay, Well, there you go. So Shahanjuraja gonna join us.
We'll get into a little bit of college football because yeah,
I mean those those rankings last night were very telling,
especially about one program in particular.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Dude, are they really gonna are they really going to
mess up all miss? Are they really going to keep
them out? Dude?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I mean, look, I think I think there's stuff to
talk about there, because we've seen precedent before with old
Florida State. Hey, they were undefeated, they won the ACC
Why aren't they in They don't have their quarterback, they're
not the same team. Lane takes a job on Monday,
you look at Ole Miss and you say, you're not
the same team, you don't have your head coach.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
But in a twelve team playoff, you're not leaving them out.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
If they're eleven to one, if they lose on Friday,
we can have that conversation.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I totally agree with you.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
But if you're eleven to one, are you really going
to penalize the team because their coach said I want
to go to Baton Rouge.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I mean, look, it's one of those that it's not
like that the College Football Playoff Committee really has a
ton to answer about. It's because the NCAA tournament, it's
kind of is cut and dry as much as cut
and dry is because it's also it's sixty eight teams.
So if you've got a good enough resume and you've
got a good enough profile, you're getting in, by the way,
And I know that some people might say a profile
it that shouldn't matter.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
No, it matters. You need people in the seats.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
I do have a theory that while Texas maybe the
ultimate wild card in all this college football playoff conversation,
there's another team that we have to bring on up
all at take is one win and Dan, they very.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Much have to be concerned for the playoff. There we go.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
All right, that's a tease right there, an extended one,
if even. But we will be a lot of Texans
here today too, seven one three two one two five
seven ninety, in addition to the bevy of guests we've
got for you. And we'll continue the Texans conversation next
because with CJ. One massive question that must be answered
when it comes to the Texans quarterback. We will discuss
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that here as we're just getting going on a Friday,
on a Wednesday, here on the Morning Drive with Dan
and Cole Sports Talk seven ninety Dan.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
Matthews, Cole Thompson. This is the Morning Drive with Dan
and Cole.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
College football playoff rankings top four staying the same, A
and M in at number three, Texas up to number sixteen,
Texas Tech holding strong at number five seven one three
two one two five seven ninety is the number to
get in on the phone line, CJ.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Stret.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
CJ.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Stroud is likely to be back on Sunday, and I
would say that the biggest question is rust How rusty
could cjb in this one? And do you even have
time for us, so two questions right there for the
price of one Cole Thompson before.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
We move on to that question, our question of the
day right here on the morning Very Good five seven ninety.
Want to hear your thoughts or comment at Sports TX
seven ninety. On social media, we all know about movie classics.
Dan's big movie guy. I peruse around it. We know
the holidays are around the corner. There really isn't one
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for Thanksgiving except potentially this. Do you consider planes, trains
and automobiles a Thanksgiving classics seven one three two one
two five seven ninety Let me know your thoughts. I
personally don't, because I'll tell you why. When I look
at a movie, I need to watch it regularly on
the holiday season. I don't watch plane, trains, at automobiles
regularly on the holiday season. I'll watch it on a
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random d in July.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Well, I mean, Christmas is definitely the time for the movies,
you know, just because there was a whole cottage industry
there and still is with the Hallmark Channel. But Thanksgiving
Thanksgiving for a lot of people, is the forgotten holiday.
It's kind of the bridge to get to Christmas, which
I'm like, I think asould get older, at least I
look more forward to Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
That idea Christmas it's the redheaded step child of the
holiday season. It really is. Nobody talks about it when
you're young. If people gets old in a line behind
Valentine's Day, which sucks.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
It's in line behind Saint Patrick's Day, It's in line
behind Fourth of July. It's in line behind Memorial Day
to some people. And again I'm not saying that you
can't pick your holidays, but let's be real. If you
want to have good food, you get it on Thanksgiving.
Everywhere else it's like, okay, cool, I'm going to a barbecue.
I don't know what they're serving. I don't know if
the beans are gonna be good on I don't know
if they're gonna have good potato salad.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I don't know what beer they're having. I know I'm
getting good.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Food on Thanksgiving seven one, two, five seven ninety John Candy,
Steve Martin, are they a part of your holiday repertoire?
On Thursday afternoon? Back to CJ's drop question, Yeah, so
with him rust and can you afford rust right now?
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
You can afford rust because your defense is so freaking awesome.
I think that's kind of the point, is that you
know that you have such a good front seven that
is gonna pressure a quarterback against a team right now
that has given up the most sacks in a month
with Indianapolis on top of that, it's a very clear indication, guys,
we slow down twenty eight. We're gonna win this football
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game because we're gonna force Daniel Jones to bs through
the year. We're getting healthy at the defensive back position,
so that means that Tyler Warren could be a non factor.
All we gotta do is to get in range for
Kayami Fairbairn. Guys, hate me the very bad news. A
fifteen to nothing win is still a win, and that
might be what you're gonna have to do against an
Indianapolis squad.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
If CJ.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Stroud is a little bit rusty, you need to have
the rust knocked off before you go travel to Arrowhead
and face off against the Against the Chiefs, you're allowed
one mulligan. So either the mulligan comes this week to
where CJ ends up having a really rocky performance but
you win, or you end up having a rocky performance
a gain lose but you can't lose both games, and
CJS dropped me in the reason why well.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
And that's I mean, I think that the number one
thing that's of all of the inaccuracy and just you know,
general ineffectiveness out of CJ. At times we've seen interceptions,
we haven't seen a ton of them. Like I'm trying
to remember if he's ever had a multiple interception game.
I think he's had one maybe that I could remember.
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But it's even too that his interceptions don't seem like
they are geez man, where were you going with that?
A lot of them are tip balls, you know, a
pass a little bit behind someone and a defensive back
just happened to be there. Like, there's none of them
that I look at that I'm just like, I have
no idea what the hell you were just trying to
do right there?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
He's had five five multiple interception games interception games. The
only one that I truly remembered where it felt like
he was forcing the ball was the match up against
Detroit last year, especially in the second half. Came out swinging,
did not have a good opening drive, bad pick, and
then they try to target tank down the end zone.
Very underthrown ball to Carlton Davis can not forget about
that one.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Yeah, I mean, I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
The egregiousness of some of the air receptions are bad,
but sometimes just right place, right time for the defensive back.
This may be one of those games where you're trying
to force something downfield. Because remember, here's the other thing
that we got to talk about. When you look at
what happened with Davis Mills when he was starting, we
got to see more of Nico Collins get force fed
the ball and it was a lot of success. I mean,
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teams were not able to go ahead and beat up
on them because of just how wal Twell was playing
in one on one coverage. Well with CJ out there,
he tried to spread it around a lot. And I'm
not saying that that's not a good game plan because
of I think Jalen Nole needs to be playing more.
I think Jayden and Higgins is starting to come on
strong and show you why he's the quality number two.
You know that Dalton Scholf's gonna pick up a first down,
You know that what he marks is a good pass
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catching back. But in my opinion, your offense runs through
what Nico Collins is able to provide. So if you're
trying to get that arrhythm, maybe CJ's going to force
the throw their sauce gardner underthrown past. There we go
the other way.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Well, and I think there's even a third question to
ask here when it comes to CJS. You know, just willingness,
I mean, and because you take the hit that you
do in that game. I kind of feel like, in
going back to that Monday night against Seattle, I felt
like there was a little bit of a corner turn
for CJ where he finally just said, you know what,
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my line's not that great. I can at least internalize
that and not say that out loud. But I know that,
and everybody else knows that, and you can see that
I believe that on the field. I just wonder, now
with the concussion, if it's one of those of man,
another hit now and I could be out. So does
he play a little bit more timid in this one?
Speaker 4 (19:42):
But I'm gonna push back just because of the thing
right now. We saw an offensive line not give up
a single sack a week ago, and that happened with
moving Titus Howard on over to left guard and you
heard yesterday Trent Brown. Trent Brown status really is good
to determine how well this offensive blank could play. That's
gonna be your starting line going into Lucas Oil Stadium
on Sunday. So if this is the same version we see,
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she's just gonna have time to throw. She's just gonna
have time to evaluate what is the overall pocket presence.
He's gonna have time to build a repertoire with the receivers.
He's gonna have time to be able to push the
ball down field. At this point, that's gonna be on
him because if he doesn't, if he's trying to make
make too much happen when it's very clearly you got
to be able to just get the ball out in
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a timely manner, that's really on you at this point.
That's not really on the offensive line, because the offensive
line was a turnstile on an issue well before. It's
not anymore like it does feel like at this point
we now know where the Texans are when it comes
to the front five.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Well, and you know, I think the other part of
it too is you know the team that you're going
up against. This isn't Indianapolis Colts. Team that is okay
at rushing the passer, they're not great. Lead to Law too,
is you know a guy that's been really good for them.
I mean as a team, they got thirty three of them,
and the Texans are amongst the Actually the Texans actually
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just thirty three themselves, so I mean both pretty much
the same. I just think that the difference in this
one is that the Texans obviously have Daniel Hunter and
Willie Anderson Junior, whereas lay to Law two is basically
the pass rush for the Indianapolis Colts, but.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
They do have other guys that can get after you.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Well, they're gonna have the Forrest buck Der in this
game is a probably big time deal. I don't think
he's playing, So there we go another thing that could
easily help out when it comes to winning in the
pass rush rates. So yeah, I mean it's a lot too.
You got some good linebacker playing. I think you have
a decent secondary overall, so not the worst thing possible,
but still, this is a Texans scene that on paper
is really at the right time, and defensively they're gonna
be able to build themselves out of trouble.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
A concern with the Texans heading into this game that
kind of builds off what we talked about in the
first segment. We'll discuss that right here as we continue
on the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole. Right here
on a Wednesday before the Thanksgiving Sports Talk seven to.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
Ninety, we're back the Sports Talk seven ninety Mornings show.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
They'll have a name or two that's already unblocks down.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
There you go. So you have that, I'm sure probably
hire them on.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
And be fair, their other option.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
That could be existing is already in the playoff coaching
as a coordinator somewhere, So they couldn't even hire him
to begin with. What's the point of even pulling the
plug when there's no reason to right now?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
And it looks like Tulane is probably going to be
the team that is the group of five that makes
it into the College Football Playoff, which if you're U
of H fan, you look at that.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Program and you're like.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Hey, who helped get that thing going?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Who helped build that thing? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Our guy we Fritz. So there you go. Something else
look forward to. We'll get into some college football. Like
I said here, in about an hour, Alex Miller going
to join us and hop on with us. So real
quick here before we get to Joe in the gallery.
The concern for me with the Texans is, I know
we talked about that. You know, this feels like a
must win for the Colts on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
The concern for me with the Texans is, I mean,
it's not about them listening to us talk about this
or anybody else say this, but that The concern that
I have is complacency has been an issue with this
team at times when they lose to Seattle earlier this year,
and you got Titus Howard after the game saying, yeah,
there's probably some complacency on offense, and me, probably you
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most people who've spoken into live microphones on this station,
we're probably like, you know, head exploding emoji, how can
that even be?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
You have nothing to be complacent about.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Well, now they have stuff to be complacent about, because
this is a team that's playing their best football right now,
and this is a team that is finding a way
to win one score games early on in the season,
and even last year they were losing one score games.
So you almost wonder if like there was a little
bit of a feeling in that locker room of hey,
we know how to do this now, so we're a
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little callous to these situations.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
We can handle this.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
I just I worry a little bit about some of
the edge being taken off of this team.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Is that a valid concern. It's a valid concern.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
I think what the more concern would be is that
this is who we are as an offense defense, You're
gonna have to win.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Us a championship. I think that's more so the concern
at this point.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
So like perfect example, Oklahoma right now in college football
is so well predicted to be a title contender because
how good their defense is. Their offense is what it
is at this point that will keep them from winning
a national title. The Texans have the exact same defense.
Elite in the pass rush, they're great in coverage, they're
not missing assignments in the open field, they're forcing turnovers,
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they're winning at the line of scrimmage, they're forcing teams
to have to go to their secondary punch. They're doing
all the right things. We're still giving up twenty points.
Can you get twenty one? No, we can only get seventeen.
At some point the dam breaks Dan, I mean quite literally.
That's just the nature of life in general. Everyone has
their breaking point for the Texans. It could come against
Jonathan Taylor, who rushes for two hundred and seventeen yards,
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and they score twenty eight. Houston, we need to score
twenty nine. We got twenty four. Okay, Okay, well that's
not good enough for us. What happens when we face
off against Kansas City in two weeks we got eighteen,
we can only score fourteen. I mean, like, like that's
where we're at. So like for me, the complacency Euro,
I think you're onto something. But I don't think that
the defense is gonna be an issue in this game.
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I don't think they get to worry about anything going
on when it comes to the play designs, you know,
for the front seven. I think Will Anderson's gonna have
another three sack game. I think Daniel Hunter is gonna
kick the crap out of Daniel Jones. I think that
they're going to limit Jonathan Taylor. I think they're gonna
do all the right things. It doesn't matter because if
we've seen this happen before. Defensively, you put on a
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hell of a performance against Tampa Buccaneers. What happened fourth
down call, couldn't get a stop on Baker Mayfield ran
down the field or shot white as time nearly expired.
You're in the end zone. Five weeks later, Devor Broncos
third down stop. All you have to do is bring
down bon Nicks twenty six yards scamper. He sets up
a game winning field goal for world.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Let's you lose.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
It could just be as simple as that your offense
does not have enough juice, and even as good as
your defense is, they're gonna give up a touchdown every
once in a while.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Well that might be enough to go ahead and win
this football game for them.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Well, and I think, you know, you bring up a
valid point about the offense because you're loving games in
I mean, I don't think that there's going to be
any November December surprises with this deep with this offense
that you're just like, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Oh hey, where's that been? Oh hey, where's that been?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I think you might be you know, you might see
flashes here and there of like a really nice play,
and we have we have seen some plays. You're like,
Nick Kayley, you're working in your bag right now. Man, Okay,
I like it.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
I'll tell you what the surprise would be. It's like
going up against Arizona and dropping forty. It's like, oh,
holy crap, this offense is able to score four touchdowns
of the first half. And then you look at the
metrics of first half defensive numbers of how bad Arizona
is in the secondary at times. Oh, okay, that's why
they were able to score forty. It's like, remember when
they played against the Baltimore Ravens and they dropped, you know,
thirty five points in the first half, and everyone's like,
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this is the version of the offense we're waiting to see. Okay, Well,
they didn't have ro Quand Smith, they didn't have nom Mattabik,
they didn't have Kyle Hamilton and all pro safety. They
were down two starting quarterbacks, they were down to starting
defensive tackle. But yeah, I mean you scored thirty five,
Like I mean, I mean, good for you, guys. It
was a really good move. But you didn't face off
against the Baltimore Ravens. She faced off against their JV squad.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I look, it's just like in golf, we make the
comparison all the time. Those holes that you can post
low numbers, post those low numbers. Brother, I don't care
if it is a straightaway and the fair way is
wide open. And if you make anything less than a
than a birdie here on this hole, then you completely
messed it up.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
You completely flubbed it.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I mean that's those are those situations that you got
a chance to post up some points, post up some points, Dude.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
I would love nothing more than to see them beat
the brakes off of the Las Vegas Raiders. Like I
mean again, that's like one of those games where you
just talked about. Hey, it's one of the worst secondaries
in the NFL. They struggle against the run. Their quarterback
is throwing an interception every other drive. Dude, you should
be able to score thirty eight against them. But my
opinion of your offense isn't changing. It's more so showing
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this is how dysfunctional that organization is.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Let's give you a shot to jump in on the show.
That one three ninety is the way to do that.
Joe gets us going this morning.
Speaker 8 (28:04):
Good morning, Joe, good morning, Good morning, our friends. You
know I'm a I'm a big Texan fan, uh and
I was just thinking the whole picture. Sure, I'm sure
I would love to win the division even though it's
a it's a it's it would be rough, but it's
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still within within it was in a view of winning
and if we play out of our minds. But we
also need to to keep in mind the walk card
and the walk card. We need to we need to hope.
We need to wish that all these seven four and
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six part teams in the americanly in the American Conference loose, uh,
so to get to get be able to get in there.
And we need to start even though a lot of
us do not are not Cowboy fans, we need that.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
We need to.
Speaker 9 (29:04):
We need to hope that the Cowboys beat Kansas City
tomorrow big time and uh because that's one team, that's
one team that we're going to be uh against. Uh
and then we play Kansas City again next week. So
uh that's a team that's sixty five and we need
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all like I said, we need all the sixty five
teams to start losing, all the seven four teams like
like Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, uh yeah, so.
Speaker 9 (29:35):
Uh we need to.
Speaker 10 (29:37):
We need to really instead of we sure we want
to win, we want to win the division, but we
need to worry a lot about about just being a
walk card. So uh, I concentrate on the walk card
and and we win the division. So be here. That's
all I have to say.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
I appreciate you, a happy thanks. I'm a push back.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
No, that's not it at all, Like it isn't you
need to focus on winning the division. You're a two
time division champion, you have the number one defense in
the NFL, you currently have a team that is winning
in the plus turnover margin in every capacity, and you
supposedly have a Pro Bowl quarterback. I'm sorry, you should
not be settling for winning a wildcard spot.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Well, see, it's exactly what mental coaches tell you when
you want to manifest positive results in your life is
shoot for very unattainable goals and meet somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Like that is such loser mentality.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
No, but I think that his thought is on this
is that you know, the wildcard might be more attainable,
which I mean I get, But it's also though, I mean,
you've just got so many other variables in some cases
that maybe you've already kind of lost control of. I mean,
you split against Jacksonville, that's out of your control. I mean, yeah,
you want to be able to win next week against
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Kansas City, but you can't really control what happens with
Kansas City going forward, but you can control at least
twice what happens in the division, and then you work
your way down from there.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
See this is why I was really upset the Kansas
City one on Saturday, I mean one on Sunday, because
if Kansas City lost and then they lose again to
Dallas this weekend, which again very possible with how well
the Cowboys defense is kind of turned around, you go
into arrowheady, you basically can knock them out of the
playoff conversation altogether guarantee you have the head to head
win over them for a wildcard spot.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
And it comes down to it.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
But if you beat Indianapolis back to back games, and
if somehow, some way Jacksonville does it, guess what happens,
You're going to win the AFC South. So it's like,
if Indianapolis wins that game, you kind of have an
opportunity to kill three birds with one stone and do
it in a span of two weeks. Now it feels
like now you have to win both just to guarantee
that you're in the wildcard conversation.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
All right, Now, let's take a look at the shield
and we'll do that close up six clock Gower as
there was an expensive punch. Bill's getting help from a
familiar face in Burrow wants to go. We'll discuss all
of that right here as you take a look at
the pro football right here on the Morning Drive with
Dan and Cole Sports Talk seven.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
Ninety A shit, Dan and Cole as the Morning Drive cruise.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
Is on.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Someone three two on two five seven ninety. Just a
few notes on the NFL that we'll get to here
in just a second. But of course you always get
the ride away when you give us a call. It's
someone three two and two five seven ninety. So Chris,
good morning, go ahead.
Speaker 11 (32:30):
Hey, good morning, Dank Coome, morning, Cole.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Tell man, how you doing.
Speaker 11 (32:35):
Yeah, Hey, I just want to call about that previously
calling Man. I'm gonna have to say I'm gone with
Cole on that. Man, you definitely don't want to look
for a wild card. You definitely want to win that division. Now,
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong or not. But
if you win the division, you definitely at least get
one home game, right, and if you get the home game,
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you definitely want your fans because it makes a big difference.
Winning at home, and then if you win that, then
you go into the division around and then you know,
obviously you'll play the highest you know, the Texans will
probably be the lowest seed that they're forcing. They will
play the number one seed. They will go on the road.
But yeah, you definitely don't want to be you campfully
don't want no wild card. You definitely you want to
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win that division so at least you can get guaranteed
a home game, right, I mean, if you want to
play in front of your friends, right, I mean, correct
me if I'm wrong?
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah, No, of course you do. I mean there's there's
less things to worry about. Chris, appreciate the call man,
have a happy Thanksgiving. I mean, you definitely want to
win the division because there's less uncertainty when you win
the division. You win that you know you're playing at home,
you know that you're in the wild card. You got
to sweat it out a little bit more. Who are
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we getting? Where are we going?
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
I mean, you know, just can you win that game
wherever you're going? I mean the Texans, the way that
this defense is playing, I think you feel good about
basically anybody you play against and I mean with some
of these wins you've had in the last few weeks, Like,
don't you think there's a part of you if you're
the Texans, that you want another crack at Denver, Like,
even if it's at Denver, you want another crack at
that team because you say, to yourself, we let the
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quarterback get off the hook, we let them get away
and be able to win this game.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
No, CJ.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I get all of that, but like that's one of
those games that maybe it's not a wildcard round, but
you know, you win your division, you get in, so
you know you're able, and then that's a divisional round.
Might we possibly think that the Texans could be in
the best position they've ever been in to win a
divisional round game because I think they played the I
think they played the Broncos again, they beat the Broncos.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
To me, that's not the point at all. To me,
It's go back to the start of the year. Nobody
had Indianapolis, nobody at Jacksonville, nobody had Tessy on their
radar in the AFC South, every single person at this station,
every single person on the national media side, All of
a sudden, Texans are on our way with this division,
best quarterback, best play design, best defense, they're going to deliver.
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So when everyone sets you up to have a season
where you're supposed to take another step forward and you
end up winning the wild card and Indianapolis beat you
and you louse to Jacksonville in stun fashion and you're
not able to go ahead and meet the expectations, it's
a failed season in my opinion. So just internally from
the standpoint of, hey, we play in the division that
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people laugh at, they call it a joke. They think
that we're just running away with this thing. We should
meet those expectations, and if we don't, then what's the
point of even showing on up Because if we failed
ourselves at this point, That's where.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I'm at from the same one.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
If you end up playing against Denver, like the humor me,
if they were the seventh seed and Denver was the
two seed, I one hundred percent agree with you. I
think the Houston marched on into Mile High Stadium, they
beat the breaks off of Denver if they get a
second chance at them, and it'd be great. But do
you want to have that theory of waiting around? What
if for some reason, new England falls apart. New England
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then drops down to two. Denver drops up to one.
Do you feel as confident going into New England, going
into Foxborough and winning against that team?
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Probably not.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
So the best way to guarantee that you get to
control enough of that narrative is by winning the division,
because then you're facing off against the top wild card team.
And last two years, Stan, I don't know if you
remember this, Houston Wood was the underdog in both games.
They won both games emphatically at Orangy Stadium.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
I think this is something also too, because I want
to do get some shield notes here of there is
such a thing as peaking too early, and I think
that it's also too We've seen it in the past
in the NFL and all sports that teams that are
playing their best either football, basketball, baseball, whatever it is,
late in the season and you play against a team
that's kind of been able to cruise in that it's
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usually the team that's still playing really good that goes
into that game and has the momentum.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
I mean, Denver last year was a lackluster program and
they somehow found a way to get to the seventh
seed this year.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I mean let's just call it as is.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Their defense is elite, their offensive pedestrian. They've had one
really good second half performance against a team that was
currently fighting for the number two pick in the NFL draft.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Let's go really quick here on look at the shield.
As you know, I don't know if we mentioned it
on Area yesterday, but Trevon Morigg getting a one game
suspension where you figured that was gonna be happening the
Monday night game. After the game, you saw that Juwan
Jennings was trying to go after someone and you're like, hey,
why is that the case? Then ESPN showed the replay. Oh,
that's why Marg punched him right in the midsection like
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or as David Newton, the longtime Panthers writer, wrote, for
striking forty nine Ers receiver Juwan Jennings in the groin
area on Monday night, he's appealing the penalty. I don't
really see how that's gonna be an appeal. Hey, guys,
I mean, I know I punched him right there, but
you know, come on, one game suspension, Really, that's gonna
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be quickly by either Derek Brooks, Ramon Foster or Jordan
Nelson being like dude, man, the man, you know what
you did and you know you can't do that.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Come on, come on, dude, everyone knows it. Like, listen,
if you want to punch somebody, punch him in the face.
If you want to go down if you want to
go downstairs, just also understand you deserve to get clocked
in the mouth.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
That's exactly it.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Joe Burrow says that even if the Bengals are completely
out of the playoff race, he's not sitting. He's going
to play if that's the case, because there's been thoughts that,
you know, this season's getting so far away from them
that the Bengals would just say, hey, Joe, just sit
it out the rest of way, let's give it another
run next year. I don't mind him doing this because
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I mean, it's also this is a guy that's missed
a ton of time throughout his career, and he's like, dude,
I like, no, I only get so many of these.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
I need to play as much as I can.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
So I don't push back because of that reason alone.
But if it was any other reason, like this was
his first year of really dealing with injuries and missing time. Brother,
your team's not going to the playoff. You probably want
a new head coach running the program next year. You
want a better draft pick, sit out, shut up, or
paying you a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
You'll be fine.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
But I agree because if he hasn't played a lot
in the NFL because of injuries, you probably need to
see him out there.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
And finally, former Texan Brandon Cooks has a new home
because these Saints last week let him go, which I
mean it was more or less say hey, this is
you know, not going the way that you or I hoped,
So let's give you a chance to catch on with
somebody else. Well, he's got a chance to catch on
with somebody the Buffalo Bills, who badly need receiver help.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
The Buffalo Bills added in the Kirkland brand wide receiver
that they needed to bring in from New Orleans. Sorry,
Chris Alave that you still have to live in that city.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Kirkland golf balls man telling you they'll sleep on Kirkland
golf balls. Lets get in a little bit of astrois here.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
It starts seven o'clock the hour because the rumors lead.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
To this prediction when it comes to your hometown. Nine.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
We'll discuss that here as we continue on a Wednesday
edition of The Morning Drive with Danny Cole right here
at Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 2 (40:22):
Rockets taken on the Warriors tonight eight o'clock. Rockets launch
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their first loss of the season seventy six seventy three
to tennessee out in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
The Players Era tournaments, all right, Cole.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
So we did see a trade in Major League Baseball yesterday,
but the rumors are still flying when it comes to
all of the teams, and the Astros have been in
those rumors. And now you believe that some of the
rumors could lead to this prediction.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
I don't believe it, but I think that somebody believes that.
How would you feel about Sandy al Contra joining this rotation?
I would like Sandy al Contra to join this rotation?
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Explain.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
So, there been multiple reports coming out that the Marlins
are fighting in the balancing act of what do we
do with Sandy al Contra, former cy Young winner thirty
years old, at one point was for you to be
untouchable now being out seventeen point three million dollars. According
to an article by Bleacher Report, they believe that the
Ashers are going to make a move to bring on
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in the former cy Young Award winner to Paara alongside
with Hunter Round and Christian have youer.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
And that seems like a move that would make sense
for that seventeen what was it, seventeen point two is
at least seventeen point three million in I want to
short change Sandy is money. I apologize twenty one.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Million dollar club option for twenty twenty seven or two
million dollars buyout.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Well, I think that it's also too there's a couple
of reasons why he's gettable. I mean, that's one right there,
because that's not just an outrageous amount of money to
be able to pay for someone, but it's also too
You're talking about a guy coming off of Tommy John
season where last year he made how many starts he
made thirty one starts, win eleven and twelve with a
five point three six ERA in the year before where
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he went in for Tommy John surgery in twenty three
four point one four ERA with a seven to twelve record,
But before that he had been pretty much a three.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Or less guy for the better part of the last
three years.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
So I'll push back even further we get because everyone
wants to look at the ERA, and it's a little
bit differ than Dylan seas like Dylan SE's big reason
why I don't want him here. He doesn't give you
anything longer than five innings. That's been his issue since
he got San Diego. That means you're gonna have to
usual bullpen. The thing that you gotta remind yourself of
is this was not a good defense behind Sandel Contra
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in Miami, and then they made some trades to get
rid of players because they were going through a full rebuild.
Well Dan in the last two months San Alle Contra
had a three to five nine ERA and then three
seven to one ERA. He had a five to one
record during that span. His strikeout weight ran up, his
walk rate was at a season low of only five
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I mean, of only five of them month of September,
his FIP went up, and his OBA was at.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Point two two four.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
So all the things that we were starting to see
from Sandel Contre when he had his cy young season.
We're right back on display coming off of Tommy john surgery.
It feels like that he's inching closer towards being that
top twenty pitcher in the major leagues than he was
being a liability on the mouth.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
The only problem that I think you're going to run
into here is, I mean, there are reports that Miami
is willing to spend this offseason, so maybe it would
be one of those of we don't really want to
move off of this guy, and eventually we probably would
have to move off of this guy, but for right now,
you can ask for a king's ransom at this point.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
Well, what they would do is I think that they're
gonna wait until the trade deadline. They're gonna bring in
some players, bring in some prospects, make some moves to
that way, they're all very cheap friendly deals. If they struggle, well,
buyer's remorse. We get out of these bad contracts, we
move them, we bring in some prospects, we get the
farm system loadaback on up. If we do end up
having success, we don't have to move anybody, and we
feel really good about where our farm system already is
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we can go bring in a name or two from
a team that is struggling, So like that's kind of
the balancing act here. But the other thing that I
look at from the Citiac conscious side of things is, Dude,
if you know he's not going to sign their long term,
why not cash on in, like because you still have
Edward Cabrera, who's a very young up and coming player.
Uriperezes still on your team, so you still have some
young guys that could be a part of your rotation.
If Unconscious leading next offseason, he's gonna opt out of
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his deal, then why not go ahead and go get
something in return for him rather than watch him leave.
Like again, Asks are a perfect team to see that
happen because they did this with Kyle Tucker. They realized
Tucker wasn't going to sign here, Okay, we're gonna fix
right field. We're gonna bring in a replacement for Alex Bregman,
We're gonna bring in a number five starter. And it
feels like they won the deal because all three of
them are gonna be back on the roster in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Five, and it seems like Kyle Tucker will not be
in Chicago next year, so that definitely backs up what
you just said there.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
I mean, but it all goes back to what Dana.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Brown said when we met with them at the end
of the season, where he had specifically mentioned trading for
a starter, because it seems like that's where the Astros
would want to go with this, and looking at some
of the financially savvy moves they've made this offseason, trading
away a du Bond, obviously letting Ramoni Reus walk, and
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same deal with Chas McCormick and some of the other guys.
But I mean, Channel Rome has pointed out there is
no reason to believe that money is gonna be pocketed.
The belief is you're making those moves so you can
get even further under the luxury tax to go back
in and make some moves where I think that probably
ideally if he asks Dana Brown his Christmas wish list
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right now, it's trade for a starter and then probably
go free agency for an outfield option.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
I would say your top three moves at this point
are bringing in somebody who can be a utility middle
endfielder and maybe have to play in the corner outfield spots.
Bringing in an outfielder long term, whether it be in
center or in the corner. Trade for a starting pitcher
that you can put at number two. Sign a guy
who can fight in for a number five spot to
be a long term reliever. If you answer all four
of those questions before the start of the new calendar year,
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I think you're in a pretty good spot. I've thrown
this name out here. I want to get your take
on this. I very much am a believer. That's Zach Eflin,
who last season played for the Baltimore Orioles.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
You get him a fresh start down here.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
He was pitching at an elite level in twenty twenty four,
double some injuries last year. That fills your spot at
number five. That allows you then to go out and
make a big time move at number two.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Well, but it feels like number five is Justin Verlander
like that. It feels like it's it's already ramping up
for that to be the case.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
So then you bring in Justin Verlander, you bring in
Zach Eflin, and then do you just trade for a
d tray for a mill infielder. Is that where the
Brandon Donovan and the Brandon Low conversation starts on it.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
I think that's probably the case.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
I mean, because if you bring in e Flin, you're
not bringing him in to be a top of the
rotation guy that that kicks avy Air up to two.
And then you're really at that point just trying to
figure out who's three, who's four?
Speaker 4 (46:42):
Who would you put in that option? Verlander at three
and Flynn four? Would you put Fln four and Verlander?
Or was put e Flyin at three and Verlander at four?
Speaker 3 (46:49):
I mean you probably put Verlander at three and then
Flin at four, and then you know whether that's I
mean Lance McCullers Junior, whether that is I mean, I
don't I don't turn my back on a J. Blue Ball.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
That's a guy that I think showed me a ton
last year and has every single right to have an
opportunity to go for a starting rotation spot this year.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
I can tell you that if you're going to make
a trade though for Santy al Contra, if I am
the Marlins, I'm asking for.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Blue Ball like that's just a priority number one.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
I see the value in him as a maybe even
short term starter, a guy that you can utilize as
a long term reliever.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
He can be in multiple facets.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
If we want to have a six man rotation, he
can be that six guy I'm asking for blue ball
if I'm looking for a contra to come back and return.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
And talking with our good buddy Ari Alexander you know
who's now up in Boston about this a little bit
last night. I mean bringing up the point that I
think we all know when it comes to the Astros
in the trade market, it's going to hurt like you're
you're going to see somebody traded away that you're like,
oh man, did not want that to happen. But look,
welcome to the business of you no longer are flush
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with prospects down there to be able to move around
or even movable guys at the major league level that
are not going to hit you where it hurts.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
We'll think about remember when Ryan Gusta got traded. A
lot of people were at the time saying he belongs
to the starting rotation. Well, you had to move him
to go get Haesu Sanchez, And unfortunately, one team is
probably going to profit off of it because Ryan Gusto
is going to be at least a part of the
Miami Marylands organization, and if he's not.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
He's gonna get moved.
Speaker 4 (48:20):
He's gonna get moved for probably a pretty decent ransom
because he'll be developed down there. Hazu Sanchez, we think
he's going to be on the active opening day roster.
We think that with the new hitting coach, things will change.
I don't know, because again, there were still so many
issues when it came to him at the plate.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
How funny is it that, you know a difference a
year makes, because all the trades the Astros made last year,
it was widely lauded that, oh man.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
Dana Brown cooked.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
He he won this because the only guy you had
to give up really was Ryan Gusto. Yeah, whereas the
year before it was my god, how can you go
get a guy that's pitched the way he has in
Toronto and give up Joey lo Berfdo and Jake Bloss
and Will wag Billy's kid Will Will Wagner got traded
away even this year, Bloss missing last year with the
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Tommy John And you know, low Berfdo was basically a
four A player. He was he was riding the shuttle
between Toronto and Buffalo all season long.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
Have you thought about potentially calling up Los Angeles and
bringing back Kakuci.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
I mean, I would think that, you know, just for
the numbers you threw out with al Contra, that that's
probably the way that they look first.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
But I mean it couldn't hurt.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
I mean, just because you know a guy that knows
how to pitch here pitched well here. It is not
necessarily like a ridiculous number either. You'd have two more
years at twenty one, and it doesn't look like the
stuff has dropped off either, So sure, why not I
pick up the phone.
Speaker 4 (49:45):
If you want to guarantee that you need a number three,
Like let's say that your intuition going into the year
as Christian Havier is a number two, which I think
you should be a number three. But still regardless, the
couch is a pretty good option at number three, and
I think he's a cheaper option. I think that you
understand what you're getting in him. He's gonna eat up
a lot of innings. You fit well inside the clubhouse.
It was a really smart move by Dan at the time.
It could be a really smart move to bring him
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on back if they're trying to dump some salary out
in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
I don't hate it.
Speaker 4 (50:11):
The thing that I wonder about Dan is that I
I don't see them making a big time splash at
the pitching market. When it comes to trades, they're gonna
make a splash. It's Brandon Lau or it's Brendan Donovan.
Those are the two that I think you're gonna be seeing.
So you're gonna bargain bin when it comes to making
this trade for the picture. That's why I think Zach Afflene,
you say a cooochier. Two names, so you gotta pay
attention to because one's gonna be on the market as
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a sign and trade. One's gonna be on the market
for a trade option.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
Well, let's continue the Astros off season conversation because this
team looks like they are absolutely open for deals to
be made and could the Astros strike on some of
those opportunities. We'll discuss that here as we are getting
going in the seven o'clock the hour, it's the Morning
Drive Dan and Cole Sports TX seven ninety.
Speaker 7 (50:55):
The Morning Drive with Dann and Cole on Sports Talk
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Speaker 2 (51:05):
Get in on the Astros discussion. Seven one three, two
one two five seven ninety. You've you've thought that that
move signals that the Cardinals are ready to start dealing.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
They're gonna deal.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
What I think we also learn, though, is that they
want prospects, because if you're not going out and adding in,
I mean, you're not trading away Sonny Gray to a
team like the Boston Red Sox when they have an
outfield conundrum because of.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
William Bray, you and Jared Duran.
Speaker 4 (51:32):
And Sephaiella and Roman Anthony that's gonna be back up there,
and you take two pitchers if you are not going
through a slight rebuild. So now we know that if
you want to launch a new part, if you want
a Brandan Donovan, if you want one of their other
guys in the rotation, if you want a Wilson Contrerez,
you're not giving up proven players. They don't need the
proven players in the contracts. They want to start fresh,
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They want the farmacists to get a little bit loaded,
and they want to feel like that in two or
three years they're competitive.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
And they also probably right now feel like, as currently constructed,
they're not gonna overtake the Cubs. They're not gonna overtake
the Reds. They're not even gonna overtake the Brewers, who,
of course they are in front of all three of
those teams, so.
Speaker 4 (52:10):
They're not even gonna take the Pirates if they start
spending money this offseason.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
I mean that's a possibility too.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
I mean, just because it does seem like the Pirates
are trending upwards. So I mean it is one of
those where, again I get back to the conversation you
know you have with the Astros fans, oh, rebuild. I'm like, brother,
you've lived that life. You know what that life is like.
You're not in a position where you need to do that.
You start seeing this Astros team finish like where the
A's and the Angels are, then maybe we can start
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having that conversation.
Speaker 3 (52:36):
But you're a competitive team right now. When you're a
competitive team, you keep competing.
Speaker 4 (52:41):
Well, the A's are gonna eventually move on up into
the third place spot. I think this year is going
to be the year where they finish ahead of Texas,
and they finish ahead of Los Angeles. When you fall
behind them, say it's a sign of wave in the
wife flag.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
We got to at least do a slight rebuild doesn't have.
Speaker 4 (52:55):
To be fully Maybe it's two years missing the playoffs
and then you're right back in. That's fine, but like
it's not there yet. The Brendan Donovan thing, though, was
starting to feel a little bit more like a outreach program.
It's very much a pipeline dream. You're gonna have to
start looking at other options because you don't have the prospects.
Speaker 3 (53:12):
I think that's just kind of the case right now.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
You may feel like, hey, we can trade away Zach Cole,
we can trade away aj Bluebaugh and then Bryce Matthews,
and then we have no farm system that we can
really trust. But we're bringing in Brendon Donovan, who's a
great glove. He can play multiple positions, fills the gap
at second base. I love that, But now when it
comes time to the trade deadlining, you really do need
that player.
Speaker 3 (53:31):
It's not available.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
In regards to Donovan, he had somebody last night Astros
razorback fan asking our buddy Ari Alexander, of course you
used to be with KPRC too, now doing TV up
in Boston, did the Astros have enough minor league talent
to trade for Donovan? And his response conceivably yes, but
fans might not like the package that it could take
two years of control, good player. I mean the package
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that you might not like. I mean, is that Walker
Yannick going out the door.
Speaker 4 (53:57):
It's Yanick, it's Matthews, and it's probably a picture that
we don't know enough about that should be on the
rise up. That's that's the package, if not something else
also thrown in there.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
And with Yanick two, I mean, I think the thought
is there is invaluable catching and you spent a first
round pick on him, you know, That's that's one of
those that it's like, God, it's going to take it.
It's got to take a lot for that to happen,
because I mean, I think that there is some concern too,
at least in the immediates and and also too in
the not too distant future. That I mean, you're not
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one hundred percent sold on the ideas.
Speaker 4 (54:29):
Jan Diaz is one hundred plate appearances to prove to
me that he is probably the long term catcher this
year that I think that's a fair statement at this point,
how bad it was last season.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
I'll change it up a little bit. I'll say he
has two months.
Speaker 4 (54:41):
To prove with a new hitting coach that he is
going to stop swinging outside the zone. He is going
to be better at the plate, and the defense is
not dropped off. If that ends up not happening, you're
not moving off in this year. You may not even
move off him in twenty twenty six, but you're starting
to plan on what is going to be your long
term future catcher.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
Hey like see Yer get back to what he was
in twenty twenty four, much less of what he was
last year. Someone three two, one, two, five seven ninety
is the way to get in.
Speaker 7 (55:08):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
Dennis and Cyprus once away and talking to some strows.
Good morning, Dennis, Morning Dan, mornin.
Speaker 12 (55:14):
Cole, how are we guys?
Speaker 3 (55:16):
Very well? Happy Thanksgiving to you, Same to you.
Speaker 13 (55:20):
So I know, Cole, you've been talking for like the
most of the past week about Brandon Donovan, Brandon Lauts.
Speaker 14 (55:27):
Maybe I missed the meadow, But aren't there still.
Speaker 13 (55:30):
Only four infield spots when we already have Paradus, We
have Karaa.
Speaker 3 (55:35):
We have pained You, we have Altuve, we have Walker.
Speaker 13 (55:38):
Why are we talking infielders when the problem is clearly
we don't have anybody in the outfield.
Speaker 3 (55:46):
I can answer that for you.
Speaker 4 (55:46):
Donna's number one, hose al Tuobe is a liability defensively
at second base, so that's one problem. Number two, Brendan
Donovan plays multiple positions. He's played third base, He's played
both corner outfield positions. He's played shortstop, he's played second base.
He's a gold glover at spots. He is an elite glove.
He is a better upgrade over Mariso Dubond at the plate.
He also has a little bit more power and a
little bit bit more of a contact rate that can
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drive the ball into the corner of the infields. So
you're adding in a player that can do a little
bit of everything. It takes a lot of pressure off
of you having to play Hosyl too ma in a
position that he no longer can play at an elite level.
Speaker 13 (56:22):
Maybe I'm just not seeing that, and I like al Contra,
but I just don't I'm not seeing the trade for
another infield piece. I would rather see us go get
someone into a center fielder who can hit two eighty
twenty five homers, eighty RBIs and maybe steal fifteen to
twenty bag Dennis.
Speaker 4 (56:39):
I would love to see Cody Bollinger here too, but
guess what now, with the New York Mets moving off
of Brandon Nemo, he's probably going up to going up
to Queens.
Speaker 3 (56:47):
So I feel you, dude, I really do.
Speaker 4 (56:49):
I'd love to see them go make a move for
a big time splash outfielder.
Speaker 3 (56:52):
That's not gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (56:53):
What could happen is them moving off of a guy
at second base, letting him play in the outfield, letting
it be a La Tune style of motion when it
comes to yourn Alvarez and Jose Altuve, and then the
other one does the DHS and you upgrade at second
base by bringing in an infielder.
Speaker 13 (57:13):
All right, cool, guys, thanks, thanks for taking.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Dennis appreciated, I mean, uh with what he was seeing
out there for center field.
Speaker 3 (57:21):
Yeah, sign me up, man, I'm hum in.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
That's why I always I always love you know that
the creative player and Dennis, I'm not saying you're doing this,
but I mean to your points, I mean you want that,
then yeah, it's it's it's going to cost a premium that.
I just don't think that this team is willing to spend.
Speaker 3 (57:40):
No, he exists. His name is Cody Bellinger. The problem
is is that now. I think he's going to the
New York Mets after they trade away Brandon.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
You almost wonder too, if if there's a possibility for
uh the Dodgers to swing back in with him into
bringing back Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (57:54):
Could see it.
Speaker 4 (57:54):
I think of that like that was the rumor at
the very beginning of the off season was he was
going to go back to where his career started. He'd
play center field, be a good backup for Freddie Freeman
in case of anything, or if they want to move
Freeman at some point designated hitter.
Speaker 3 (58:07):
I don't hate that move at all.
Speaker 4 (58:08):
I don't, I think though from the standpoint of I
want to get paid to play in a big market
and be a good backup option for who is at
first base.
Speaker 3 (58:16):
Cody Melger fits the bill all right, So injuries are
a concern, But what about Byron Buxton. They're gonna ask
for too much?
Speaker 4 (58:25):
Like, honestly, I think that if Ari's right when it
comes to what is going to be the package for
Brendan Donovan, I feel like the package is going to
be more because of again, you realize that this is
an MVP caliber player when he's on the field, and
do you really want a guy that also is probably
gonna miss forty games per year guaranteed, simply because you
can't stay healthy.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
Well, I mean that's where I think you kind of
look at him as as almost kind of like the
Carlos Korea handling of you put care over at third
to prolong his career.
Speaker 3 (58:55):
So you take him, put Bucks in left field, maybe
left field. Yeah, I feel like at that point you
just put him a designated hitter, and that doesn't solve
a problem for you, creates more issues for him.
Speaker 2 (59:05):
Yeah, it seems like there is a little bit of
a logjam there too. Subone three two, one two, five
seven nine. Let's get Phillip in here real quick.
Speaker 15 (59:12):
Philip, good morning, Hey guys, just wanted to share with
you my theory and what they're gonna end up doing.
I know a lot of people immediately go jord On
to the DH, but the dude hits better, much better
when he's playing in the field. I don't want him
in the left field on the road, but I could
see a scenario where they play him.
Speaker 3 (59:31):
In left field at home.
Speaker 15 (59:33):
He's got a decent arm, he just doesn't have a
lot of range. And then at home you got al
two a taking the DH spot while Jordon isn't. And
then when your when al Tuova is playing hit second,
you can defensive sub him after his last appat in
the game, especially if you have the lead, because you
don't need as bad anymore. Then you put in the
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gold glover whoever they can't hit a lick and stick
him out there for the defense.
Speaker 3 (59:58):
At the end of the game.
Speaker 15 (01:00:00):
You just live with the fact that, hey, if it's
extra innings and it's tied up, you don't have his
bat anymore. And that's just the risk you take at
that point for defense. But I think that's it's gonna
be some kind of rotation like that, just based on
there are tendencies to constantly be tinkering with the lineup
and moving guys in and out, and I could see
that being advantage to Altwove getting more DH time to
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extend his career out, maybe get a little better juice
in his bat, and not having to play the field
some And so Donovan can make some sense there, and
that if you have l two adhing half the games
on the road and you have Donovan at second base
for the road games, that could make some sense. You
get some plate appearances there, but I think you got
to leave plate appearances too for paradis at a spot somewhere,
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and DH might be one of them at some point too,
and forcing L two eight to second on the road
some so you know, cross your fingers he's back and
parade as the sealthie of course. But that's kind of
how I see it. It's going to be kind of
a working mix. I don't think it's desperate that they
need a guy like Donovan. It would be a luxury.
So I would say it just kind of depends on
what the price is at the price gets to how
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you walk away find something else but rightfield center field.
If they keep Jick Myers and he is what he
was last year, e'ven lived with that. I just I
don't see a desperate need anywhere per se other than
maybe innings theaters. They need somebody in that rotation that
you can pencil in for one hundred and fifty or
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more innings and not worry about are they going to
pitch well or get heard or something else.
Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Yeah, hey, Phil, appreciate the call. We got to get
to Alex Miller. Alex Miller talk some Texas A and
M here So we'll continue this conversation because I think
there is still a lot left here, but perfection is
on the line for the Aggies. And we'll talk with
Alex Miller of the Bryant College Station Eagle right here
as we get ready for Friday's game there in Austin.
Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
Right here on the Morning Tribe Sports Talk seven.
Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Ninety nice stream Davis he talking about frog baseball, Strike one.
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Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Performancy.
Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
You need to see from number ten to guarantee his
spot in New York City for the Heisman Trophy presentation.
Speaker 12 (01:02:23):
Good morning to you, Cole.
Speaker 17 (01:02:24):
Yes, it's a good question, and yes, Marcel Reid is
going to have possibly two golden opportunities to show why
he should win the Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 12 (01:02:34):
These next two weeks. Starts this week in Austin.
Speaker 17 (01:02:37):
Yeah, I think that if you're Marcel, look, it starts
with playing clean football. Part of the reason at him
was in that thirty to three hole is because he
had two first half turnovers. Actually he technically had three
because he had the fumble that was returned for a touchdown.
Speaker 12 (01:02:54):
So playing clean football's number one.
Speaker 17 (01:02:56):
Number two, find your guys that are weapons, right, it's
Mario Kraver and Casey Conception you on or Dynamite and
Ashton Bethel Roman.
Speaker 12 (01:03:05):
Is really coming on as of late.
Speaker 17 (01:03:08):
A and M's got to find those guys out in
space and make Texas pay in the secondary. And then
number three, he's got to use his legs, and I
think we're gonna see more of that.
Speaker 12 (01:03:16):
You saw him use his legs quite a bit in
a big game against LSU.
Speaker 17 (01:03:20):
Now that the stakes are higher and A and M's
got pretty much the postseason square in front of them,
they're gonna let him loose, I think. And I think
that if Marcel can can use his legs and some
designed runs and see some lanes and some scrambles, he's
gonna have some opportunity to really add some rushing yards
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to his statistics, which is a key metric when you
look at the differentiator between him and guys like maybe
Fernando Mendoza Indiana or Julie sand at Ohio State. Really
just they don't have the rushing yards that Marcel does.
Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Again, Alex Miller joined us here on the Morning Drive
with Dan and Hole and Alex perfections on the line
for A and M. But it seems like that most
of the talking points this week are Texas wins this game,
Texas can get into the playoff. What's being said there
in College Station? Is there a little feeling of being
overlooked in this one?
Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
Maybe?
Speaker 17 (01:04:17):
I think that A and M's just trying to do
what A and M's done this season, and the whole
mantra of this team this whole year has been finished,
because let's be frank, last year they didn't finish.
Speaker 12 (01:04:30):
Started seven to one, finished eight and five.
Speaker 17 (01:04:32):
It was a disappointing end, and the biggest disappointment was
probably losing to Texas at Kyle Field and the renewal
of the rivalry where you had a shot to play
in the SEC Championship game for the first time and
keep your college football playoff hopes alive and year one
under Mike Elko, which would have been a huge accomplishment
in a transition year.
Speaker 12 (01:04:53):
For a coaching change.
Speaker 17 (01:04:54):
And so I think that what you've seen from this
A and M team this season is that.
Speaker 12 (01:04:59):
They been able to right a lot of wrongs and
they've been doing it with some vengeance and this is
the biggest one of all. I mean, I don't I
don't know what would be sweeter for A and M.
Speaker 17 (01:05:11):
A chance to cap an undefeated season and punch your
ticket to conference championship game for the first time since
nineteen ninety eight, or in your rivals chances of having
a postseason bid and go eight and four, which people
like to make jokes about Texas A and M being
Texas eight and four, and they could make the Longhorns
have an eight and four season with a win in
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Austin on Friday.
Speaker 4 (01:05:34):
So let's talk about that eight and fourteen that potentially's
on the works out in Austin. What have you seen
from arch Manning in this offense that kind of has
turned the corner and they've really started to find an
identity over the last few games. Now, credit they didn't
lose by twenty five to Georgia, but most teams do
that when they have to play between the hedges. Beating
Arkansas by thirty, I mean, you gotta feel pretty confident
that this is going to be revamped look of a
team that probably has sights on ending a perfect streak
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for Texas.
Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
A and M.
Speaker 17 (01:05:59):
Yeah, I mean, let's be honest, Arkansas has probably got
the worst defense in the sec A and M lit
him up to. But what a game like that does
is that it gives you confidence and it gives you
the good reps going into a meaningful game against a
good defense, and Arches Arch has looked pretty good these
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last few games stands the Georgia game. Like you said,
the key for A and M is gonna have to
be that they need to They need to fluster him
early and often, they need to get him on the run.
If Arch has a clean pocket, he's pretty dang good.
If he doesn't, that's where trouble happens. And so I'd
be willing to bet that Mike Elko is gonna be
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throwing the kitchen sink at him pretty much all game. A.
Speaker 12 (01:06:44):
M's number one in the nation on third down.
Speaker 17 (01:06:46):
So if you're Texas, you need to win big on
first and second down to get into some manageable third
down situations and when your battles where he can. And
the thing about the saying them defense too, they've been
susceptible to giving up some big plays and so if
Arts can connect downfield with some of those receivers and
if they can spring a big run or two like
(01:07:07):
they did last season. That's gonna that's gonna be a
key way for Texas to stay in the game and
find a way to win.
Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Alex Miller again, Brian College Station Eagle join us here
on the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole and Alex.
I mean you kind of touched on it right there,
but do you feel like that is going to be
the defensive game plan is overload with numbers and just
really try to overwhelm Texas upfront with a group that's
not been very good this year.
Speaker 12 (01:07:32):
Yeah, I mean it's got to be right. Texas has
a has a leaky offensive line and a M's got
one of the best pass rushers in the nation, and
cash is how I mean, that's that's.
Speaker 17 (01:07:43):
Gotta be where it starts. AAM just needs to play
sound defense. They need to play clean gap football. And
I sound like a coach, but when AAM does that,
they're as good as anyone. And when they don't, really
bad things happen. They they've been really susceptible. It's a
big play is when they've had misfits and blown assignments. Uh,
the Arkansas game was chief among them are Arkansas hung
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forty two on.
Speaker 12 (01:08:07):
Them and ran right right up and down the field.
Speaker 17 (01:08:10):
And in last year, Texas kind of had their way
in the run game in that in that game at
Kyle Field.
Speaker 12 (01:08:16):
And so A and M's just got to really play
clean football on on that defensive side.
Speaker 17 (01:08:21):
And if they do, I just think A and M's
got a little more firepower on offense than in Texas.
Speaker 12 (01:08:27):
Does I think one thing? Though? Special teams might play
a huge role in this game.
Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
Uh.
Speaker 17 (01:08:34):
Texas obviously has a fantastic returner and Ryan Nibblett Casey
conception has been great at punt return, but a MS
kicking situation has been.
Speaker 12 (01:08:42):
Kind of shaky as of late.
Speaker 17 (01:08:44):
And if it comes down to a late field goal, Uh,
curious to see how that would how that would shake out.
Speaker 4 (01:08:50):
Alex If let's say Texas A and M does win
this game, they're twelve and now they're going to Atlanta
for the first time in conference history. What's a better
matchup in your opinion for the Aggies guarantee that they
keep the NDFU streak alive Alabama, who would have to
beat Auburn in the Iron Bowl. They win, they guarantee
their spot in or Georgia who if they beat Georgia
Tech in the same building with the college football I mean,
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with the SEC championship game will be played the following week,
they would end up having the nod. Who do you
think is a better matchup? For text saying him, oh man,
that's like picking your poison.
Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Uh.
Speaker 12 (01:09:23):
Part of me wants to say Alabama. Alabama doesn't run the.
Speaker 17 (01:09:27):
Ball maybe as well, and that that's kind of been
a little bit of a weakness for the Aggies and
just you know, I feel like a fans would travel,
but playing Georgia in their backyard would just be a challenge.
I think either one would be a total dog fight,
and I think it would be a really good litmus
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test to see if A and M truly is one
of the top three teams in the country, because quite honestly,
they've had a good shakeout in their SEC schedule this
year and they've went and beat Notre Dame on the road.
Speaker 12 (01:10:03):
That's a great feather in the cap.
Speaker 17 (01:10:05):
With how the Irish have responded since then, LSU wasn't
a bad feather in the cap considering what they were
doing at the time they were playing.
Speaker 12 (01:10:13):
Things have totally unraveled since aying and beat them literally
started the next day when they fired Brian Kelly.
Speaker 17 (01:10:19):
But I think that maybe Alabama, but I think they're
both on kind of an even playing field.
Speaker 12 (01:10:27):
If you asked me, Cole.
Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
About another minute or so with Alex Miller again, Brian
College Station Eagle here on the morning Drive with Dan
and Cole and with Mike Elko signing his contract extension,
Now the question starts to what happens with some of
the assistants there. Do you think that we're going to
see a pretty significant amount of assistant attrition or do
(01:10:51):
you think exactly like what Elko talked about when he
signed his deal, Alex, that they're paying these guys a
lot more to be able to keep these guys around.
Speaker 17 (01:11:00):
Yeah, you know, Colin Kline's a guy that's been kind
of the name that's been surfacing in some of these
job searches.
Speaker 12 (01:11:08):
He's definitely a guy.
Speaker 17 (01:11:09):
That wants to be a head coach and will probably
be a fantastic head coach when he becomes one. He's
a guy though, that can wait for the right opportunity,
kind of like what Elko did when he was defensive
coordinator at A and m so I don't think he's
just gonna rush into a job simply to take a
head coaching position. Oklahoma stake got filled. That was a
job that Klein was tied to. You know, there's several
(01:11:32):
jobs that could come open here in these.
Speaker 12 (01:11:34):
Next few weeks that maybe a little more.
Speaker 17 (01:11:36):
Higher profile, but no getting that salary pool for the
assistance increase, it's definitely gonna help with retention. And I
think that definitely A and M has the advantage there
where guys might have choices to make and you've got.
Speaker 12 (01:11:55):
A good situation where you're at, why leave it at
least right now?
Speaker 17 (01:11:59):
You can be a little more picky if you're gonna
have those incentives, and it's gonna help ain and retain
kind of some key non coaching positions like strength coach
Tommy Moffatt and maybe even general manager Derek Miller that
has been really a key brain piece behind building this
roster that started eleven and.
Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
Ozer Alex gets you out of here on this thirty
seconds or last? What is your Thanksgiving food?
Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
Hot take? Hot take?
Speaker 12 (01:12:24):
Ah Man green Bean castrole and hand are terrible.
Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
Let's be honest, how dare you sir?
Speaker 17 (01:12:30):
No?
Speaker 12 (01:12:31):
That sorry?
Speaker 17 (01:12:31):
Cole that that's in sweet potato castroles. Sweet potatoes and marshmallows.
They're both good independent foods together.
Speaker 12 (01:12:40):
I don't know, man, I don't know. Give me turkey
and mashed potatoes and stuffing with brown gravy that all day.
Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
See there you go. No green's on the table. So
see we covered it all, Alex. We got gap sound football.
Didn't hear hat on a hat would have loved that
one on the Bengo card. And then we got Thanksgiving
hot takes right there with some football in between.
Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
But man, we really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Enjoy tomorrow and you have good coverage on Friday.
Speaker 12 (01:13:05):
Appreciate it, guys. Happy Thanksgiving to y'all and we'll talk
soon hopefully.
Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
There you go, Alex Miller can Brian College Station Eagle
hopping on with us for a few minutes.
Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Well, was it the ham or was it the green
bean castrole a drew you off side?
Speaker 6 (01:13:18):
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Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
Green Beer Castle is elite.
Speaker 4 (01:13:20):
I love Greenby Castle if it's made properly, especially when
you have the French onions on top. There is nothing
better on the side dish I am. I am a
big fan of the fried onion strings. That's that's a
good move, but elites, I put that nest here. I
think that mass Potatoes for sides, it's a fourth or
a five starter for me.
Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Really yeah, yeah, there's there's so many others that far ahead.
Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
Oh god, yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
I think mass Chows is easily number one, and I
would go starting in my number two spot being green
bean Castle at least my Grandma's green bean Castle.
Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Well, I mean number one for me is my dad's
cornbread dressing, which I will be helping him make a
little bit later on.
Speaker 4 (01:13:55):
So, by the way, Alex did say something about this
game that I think is really poignant, but it has
everything to do not with the quarterback positions. It's one
player who definitely is going to alter the way this
game goes.
Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
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Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
Play Jason Automobiles. You're a big movie guy. Uh huh?
Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Is it a Is it a thanks Even classic? No,
it's It's the quintessential Thanksgiving classic. He's the only one.
Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
I was just saying, do you even consider it a
Thanksgiving classic or not? Because I personally don't.
Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
I mean, like you could go whatever the Vince Vaughn
and Reese Witherspoon movie was, because weren't they supposed to
go on for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
No, it was four Christmas. Oh it was for Christmases.
There you go.
Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
So that flies in the face of that already. So yeah,
I don't know if really any others. Actually, you know what,
here's a quintessential Thanksgiving movie. Sin of a Woman with
al Pacino and Chris O'Donnell.
Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Never would have thought of that. One and here.
Speaker 4 (01:16:26):
Okay, let me explain the reason why said I say
it this way, because are you ever watching Home Alone
in July? No, I'm watching Playing Straeted Automobiles when it's
on television.
Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
It's on in June. I'll watch it done Thanksgiving me.
Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Well, that's that's when we weighed into the die Hard
waters too, because die Hard was the same deal.
Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
Yeah, but Diehard is one hundred percent of Christmas. It is.
Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
But I mean, but you know, you also have the
detractors who say that it's not because it was released
in July.
Speaker 5 (01:16:51):
Nine.
Speaker 4 (01:16:51):
To chime on in what do you think? Is it
a chrisp Is it a Thanksgiving cult classic? Or just
another run of the mill movie.
Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Rocket's gonna take on the Warriors tonight out West eight o'clock.
Rockets launch pad for that one College Football Playoff rankings.
Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
Which we're getting into some CFB right here.
Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
As A and M stays at number three, Texas is
up to number sixteen, Texas Tech in at number five,
And of course that game between Texas and Texas A
and M can be heard right here on Friday evening
six thirty is going to be the kick from there
in Austin. You got an A and M point. I
got a Texas point. The A and M point for
this one.
Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
This is not going to come down to their offense whatsoever.
Like I believe that Marca we can have a good game.
I believe he could have an average game. I believe
that wide receivers could drop a million passes. This is
going to come into pressing, pressuring Arch Manning. Like, we
got to get out of this narrative that Arch is
still a bust because of what he looked like in
Week one. Go back and watch him for the last
four games. He has been arguably the best quarterback in
(01:17:49):
the SEC. When he's on point, when he is doing
everything that we envisioned him at the start of the season,
he looks like a revitalized version of himself. That is
very much would be in the conversation for the Heisman Trophy.
If the season we're to end a day and they
had a ten to two record, very much would be
in the conversation for next season being the number one
overall pick all the things that we envisioned at the
(01:18:09):
start of the year. Cash is how the defensive end
he's up for the Benargic Award. He is up for
the he's up for the Lombardi Award, He's up for
the lot Trophy, He's up for literly everything.
Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
He's had an All American season.
Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
He has got to pressure arch Manning and to make
him look like he did against Ohio State. If that
shows up on Friday night in Austin, Texas is not
of a shot.
Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
And then I mean from the Texas side of it too,
where last night is mentioned. You know, you get up
to number sixteen in the College Football Playoff rankings, and
I know that some people might say it's one spot.
Who cares, Well, that's one spot that now I think
opens the door for them, because you've got a lot
of teams that are in front of them this weekend
that say Ole Miss they lose that game, and you're
(01:18:50):
already kind of starting to see that the playoff committee
is looking at ole Miss and saying, hey, we hear
the rumors and it sounds like your guy on Monday
is going to be gone. So if that's the case,
you're not the same football team. So maybe that has
a chance if they lose in the Egg Bowl to
up bump them out. You're looking for LSU to go
pull off against Oklahoma, which they're not going to do.
Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
LSU's offense is dog water.
Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
I mean, you know, you would even like for the
Notre Dame after dark at Stanford for Andrew Lux guys, which,
by the way, did you see that interview that he
was doing the season, Yeah, where he's right in the
middle of it, and then of course you know he
starts talking through his molars like he does.
Speaker 7 (01:19:30):
Oh go go go get him.
Speaker 4 (01:19:34):
He's literally the epitome of a college football fan on
the sidelines. That is what you want to see for Stanford.
He loves his school. And you know that's the thing too.
Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
Whenever you do and Andrew Luck in personation, you almost
have to talk through your molars. I mean, there's what
a great program we have, you know, it's it's so
fun to be here, back back on the farm again.
Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
It's just I love this school so much. I will
give you credit. That has been your best impression you've
done in the last two weeks. I can do it,
Andrew Luck. That is a very spot on Andrew Lux.
Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
So if we ever have Andrew luckin studio, which I
mean he is a Stratford guy, then I think I
would probably have to say, hey, man, I'm sorry. I
gotta do the impersonation like one of my favorites that
he ever had when he was with the Colts, Jack Doyle,
Jack Doyle.
Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
I love Jack Doyle. He's great.
Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
As for the Texas Longhorns, I'm gonna push back. They're
not going to the playoff regardless.
Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
They're just not.
Speaker 4 (01:20:20):
There's too much for room and unexplained. Why what do
we notice last night in the playoff rankings? Texas moved
up one spot? Who moved up three spots?
Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
Michigan. Okay, they jumped them.
Speaker 4 (01:20:31):
Michigan has Ohio State's number until I see it. Why
am I gonna doubt that Michigan can't pull off the
upset against them?
Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
Well, then there you go.
Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
I mean that that's another one that you would need
to have happen, is you would need for Ohio State
to break the streak against Michigan and then that knocks
them out. And I mean, at that point, I think
you just need two more Sony.
Speaker 4 (01:20:48):
Miami to lose to pitt. I still think that you
would need BYU to lose a game. I still think
you would need Utah to lose a game because they
would all be ten and two.
Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
They are right ahead of you.
Speaker 12 (01:20:57):
Even if you.
Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
Weren't to beat Texas A and M.
Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
You made games traction, but you're not going to gain
enough to where I think that you're in the conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
You remember, really believe that if it's Utah on Texas,
that Texas would not.
Speaker 4 (01:21:06):
Get I believe it BYU wins on Saturday and then
they win in the Big Twelve Championship against Texas Tech.
They're not taking Texas Tech out with one loss in
regular season play to put it in a Texas team
that lost by twenty five points to Georgia and then
lost on the road to a potential three to nine
Florida squad.
Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
So I mean there are auds for it.
Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
I mean the loss of Florida, that Georgia loss both
of those. But here I think is a little bit
of a slippery slope. If you're the college football playoff committee,
there is no incentive to schedule those tough games early
on the season anymore then No, there's.
Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
One hundred percent of an incentive.
Speaker 4 (01:21:38):
The reason why they were able to jump into the
top ten before the Georgia game was they didn't penalize
them for losing to Ohio State. They rewarded them for
scheduling a tough out of conference game, which is why
they were ahead of Notre Dame because Notre Dame has
you know, they're on an eight game winning streak at
the time, they have a one point loss to Texas
A and M and they have a three point loss
to Miami and they're not in the top ten. But
(01:21:59):
Texas with a loss to Florida, as bad as it was,
they weren't punished for it. So at this point, I
think you had to schedule tougher non conference games to
guarantee that there is a nine to three conversation to
be at.
Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
Let's get back into the Texans conversation, because what if
we told you the pressure is off the Texans on
Sunday in Indy. We will discuss that as we get
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Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
Thanksgiving everybody. You know.
Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
It's funny too, is you get the Rockets Tonight eight
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and Warriors out West College football playoff. We've been talking
a lot about that. Number three is text A and M.
Texas up to the number sixteen and Texas Tech up
to five. And in baseball we got a trade Cardinals
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We're gonna talk a little bit more college football here.
In about ten minutes, Shahan.
Speaker 4 (01:24:39):
Jer Roger from CBS Sports joins us gets an update
on the college football playoffs selection process. What we can
see this weekend out in Austin. You can listen to
the game right here on Sports Talk seven ninety and
a couple of other upsets that could pave a way
for Texas to make a run of the college Football Playoff,
plus a little bit of Heisman Trophy talk as well,
because Shahan just was named to the Heisman Trophy ballot.
(01:25:00):
I want to get his thoughts on who should be
the favorite in a year where there does not feel
like a clear cut front runner.
Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
Yeah, this is gonna be one of those where somebody
wins it and you're like, oh them. I mean because
like twenty nineteen, you knew who was winning. You know,
what was it a couple of years ago with you know,
Jayden Daniels, you knew who was winning. I mean most
years you go into it and it's just like, all right,
there's two other guys there, but we all know who's
going to be taking it. It's an invitational at this point.
(01:25:28):
But this is one where I really honestly think we're
going to head into it and it's going to be well, really,
any of them can take it.
Speaker 4 (01:25:33):
I think it should be a two names right now,
should be Jeremiah Love from Notre Dame, where it should
be Diego Poppy for Vanderbilt if both win this weekend
and both think the College Football Playoff, If the award
is supposed to go to the most impactful player and
the best player for their team.
Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
Nobody is more impactful than those two.
Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
All right, let's get into the Texans here a little bit,
because this is a game this weekend where we've talked
about it throughout the show today. I mean, you know,
must wins, you know all of those things that's always
thrown out there, and I know that's a big Matt
Thomas and Ross things, so must win game. But what
if I told you that the pressure is one hundred
percent off the Texans this weekend, that the pressure is
(01:26:10):
completely on Indianapolis on Sunday, I would.
Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
Say you'd be lying, but I will listen to your point.
Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
So, I mean, the point being is that Indianapolis has
lost too of their last three. Texans on a three
game winner right now, all of a sudden, it looked
like the insturmountable lead that the Colts had is starting
to fall back a little bit and started to leak
a little bit. And I mean with the Texans getting CJ.
Stroud back, it just seems like the momentum is completely
on their side heading into this one.
Speaker 4 (01:26:37):
But at the same time, we don't know what the
Texans offense is going to look like with CJ. Stroud
because we haven't seen him in three weeks. We've seen
Davis Mills out there. We could believe that it's going
to get better. We could believe that that relationship with
him and Nico Collins is going to be pointing it.
We could believe that they are going to be able
to run a few more plays that were basically thrown
to the wayside because you had Davis Mills around the show.
(01:26:58):
With Nick Kyley, we also get believe that, Hey, part
of the reason why the Texas have struggled so much
is because CJ.
Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
Stroud has been an issue.
Speaker 4 (01:27:05):
I don't believe that that's gonna happen, and I do
believe that you have an elite defense that can bail
you out of trouble.
Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
But it's at that same point when you.
Speaker 4 (01:27:11):
Talk about some of these rivalries in college football, until
I see it, you're.
Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
Gonna have doubts. And there's a reason to have a doubt.
Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
C J. Stroud in the offense was playing very underwhelming
before he got into the injury protocol. Then you see
Davis Mills come on in. Mills does his job as
a backup. Nothing too flashy, nothing that really is going
to be able to kind of win you on over
and say this is the guy that we're buying a
lot of stock into, but also nothing.
Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
To where you're putting your team in harm's way.
Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
So it's like the pressures on Indianapolis because of they're
on a two game losing streak and Jacksonville is still
winning and Houston is still winning and you start to
face off against them four times in your.
Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
Next next six games.
Speaker 4 (01:27:51):
But on the flip side, the pressure's on Houston in
terms of CJ. Stroud because let's just be real, dude,
until we see him kind of start winning some games,
you can only ask your to do so much.
Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
And this is also too.
Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
You know a Colts team that has really relied on
Jonathan Taylor, and for good reason, he's been really good.
But also too, I mean, this is a team that
two of their three losses this season have one constant.
Daniel Jones has not been good. Two interceptions in the
loss at the Rams in September and in three against
the Steelers in a game they lost about three weeks
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ago out there in Pittsburgh, and both of those games
they fell twenty seven to twenty.
Speaker 4 (01:28:26):
I'll go a little bit further, they've given up eleven
sacks of the month of November. Their offensive line is
starting to reel a little bit. That's not the recipe
you want if you're Indianapolis going up against Will Anderson
and Neil Hunter.
Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
I mean, especially two guys that were just on fire
last week and the eight sacks you had. I mean,
I don't think you can you know, look at this
Texans defense as good as they are and expect for
eight again. I mean, that's just an uncanny performance. It
almost got to a point where it was like, do
you maybe want to, like, you know, I don't know,
have your better running back in terms of pass pro
in there, or I don't know, maybe even have another
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tight end in there to kind of chip somebody.
Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
At this point, it wasn't gonna matter, though.
Speaker 4 (01:29:04):
I think at this point just that's who Buffalo is
a is an offensive personnel like and that's how good
your defense is. You can put anybody out there and
Danil Hunter and Will and Anderson Junior are gonna kill him.
Speaker 6 (01:29:14):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
And that's the thing too, is I mean, I think
you look at this game and you know, again, can
you can you count on that type of sack production?
Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
Can you count on three turnovers in this one.
Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
I'm willing to go on on the the turnovers part
of it. I think I think that absolutely they're they're
gettable in that regard.
Speaker 4 (01:29:31):
Let me set the over under right now, five and
a half sacks, you're taking the over the under of
this take the under in that one. What about two
and a half turnovers? I will take the over, so
you won't take the over in the turnovers. I flip it.
I think that they will get six sacks. I think
they will get one turnover. That's the way that I
view it. I think that you are going.
Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
To continue to see Will Anderson Junior and Danil Hunter
have a career year.
Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
It just feels like, at least for what we can
expect from the defense, that you believe that they can
be even more productive than what we can expect out
of the offense. The offense, again, we're setting the bar
pretty low for them. Twenty twenty four points. You're just
looking at them almost you know. The comparison to baseball
is with the Astros. Hey, you score four runs, We're
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winning this game. But why was that scoring four runs
for the Texans?
Speaker 4 (01:30:15):
Why would we say at this point that we have
to put the bar any higher for the Texans, at
least offensively.
Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
I haven't seen enough.
Speaker 4 (01:30:22):
And again, you're bringing back a quarterback who hasn't played
in three weeks. He's gonna have to shake off a
little bit of rust. You also got to be able
to build that rapport in the passing attack. And it's
not just with Nico Collins. It's back with Jalen Nole
and Jayden Higgins. And now you got the Dalton Scholtz
in the mix, and then you got Winnie Marks out
of the backfield. And yeah, they're gonna make some plays.
But I look at this more so of until you
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give me a reason to start believing that this offense
has truly.
Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
Turned the corner.
Speaker 4 (01:30:46):
I'm begging on my defense to bail me out of
trouble ten times out of ten.
Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
And that's the thing. I just I think that you
can count on the defense to give you that. You
can't count on the offense to give you that. No,
But at the same time, why would you right now?
Speaker 4 (01:30:58):
I don't even care if you can on the offense
in this game, because of again, you have a quarterback
coming off of nearly three weeks of not playing almost
a month. We're being completely honest, We're at a level
of where now I'm saying, this is the game to
where you can shake off the russ because your defense
going up against Jonathan Taylor, you shut him down, You
force Danny Dimes at the beach. You He's not going
to I can promise you the version that we're seeing
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right now is the version of Daniel Jones that we're
gonna get the rest of the year. It's gonna be regression.
They're gonna regret trading away those two first round picks.
So this is one of where your defense can bail
you out of trouble.
Speaker 3 (01:31:31):
But I need to see CJ.
Speaker 4 (01:31:33):
Stroud knock off all that rust before Sunday Night next
week when they face off against Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
Plus, he's one.
Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
Bad haircut away from looking like Lloyd Christmas from Dumb
and Dumber.
Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
Daniel Jones.
Speaker 4 (01:31:41):
Yes, I've never even I haven't even seen Wes hair
looks like. I mean, he's got the typical week quarterback herecut.
Speaker 3 (01:31:49):
Will Anderson Junior knock on a tooth that way just
goes in.
Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
As there you go, you know, get the gap in
there a little bit, just like like Lloyd had you
know where the beer flows like wine and the women
the same in a capistrano.
Speaker 3 (01:32:02):
Yes, I'm sorry, I know it's a call classic. That's
my least favorite Jim Carrey movie. Why don't you go
and turn your microphone on and hop out for you?
Go ahead and do that. I'll stand on my ground here.
Speaker 4 (01:32:11):
I think it's an overrated movie and it who lives
up to the title of being called dumb and dumber.
It's a dumb movie that's made for dumb people. Well
that's the whole thing, man, It's not supposed to be
like what do you want? You know, the crying game here. No,
the mask I think is funny. I think Asventur is
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
No, I don't need the bubblegum pop versions of these
movies that were just box office just hey, he's hot
right now, let's throw him out there.
Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
The mask was made before you saw what's before Dumb
and Dumber?
Speaker 4 (01:32:41):
Was it before Dumb and Dumber? I knew that that
Ace Ventura got everything going. No, as Ventur was one
of the big ones. And again I'm not saying that
you can go with Bruce al Mighty like I'd say
that absolutely you could say.
Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
The Bruce Almighty was, Hey, this is for the families.
This is a cute movie.
Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
Okay, so what's the best Jim Carrey movie out there?
Dumb and dumber. No, it's like it's it's still good,
but liar.
Speaker 4 (01:33:02):
Liar is far and away with the improvisation for the
physical Comedy is way better.
Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
I was gonna say, I mean that was that was
when Jim was in his bag for the physical physical comedy.
But I mean, at least, you know, with with Daniel
Jones too, you know, we're hoping that maybe he has
one of those bad performances, like I mean, they weren't all,
you know, great masterpieces, so.
Speaker 4 (01:33:23):
You want him to be basically Jim Carrey and the Majestic.
There we go, that's a pretty good movie. That's terrible
that nobody understands what it is.
Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
It was like him like trying to be serious, but
it's like, eh, not really, I'm not really sure we
see you that way right now, Jim.
Speaker 4 (01:33:36):
I'd rather see Daniel Jones beat me because of that
means that I shut down Jonathan Taylor. And if you
shut down Jonathan Taylor ninety nine point nine percent of
the time, you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (01:33:43):
Want to, Nah, I can't. I can't live in a
world where Daniel Jones he's not gonna beat you though.
Speaker 4 (01:33:47):
Dan, That's the point is that if you slow down
Jonathan Taylor and forced Daniel Jones to beat you, either
that shows that you are not meant to be in
the playoff conversation to begin with, or somehow, some way,
Daniel Jones decided to go ahead and choose violence for
the holiday season.
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Back to the Morning Drive. Here's Dan Matthews and Cole Thompson.
Speaker 4 (01:35:31):
Shahan Jerraja from CBS Sports showns us live right here
on the Morning Drive, and Shahan, I'm gonna let you
go run rampant. We know Texas needs to win on
Friday to at least have a shot.
Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
To go to the college football Playoff.
Speaker 4 (01:35:43):
After watching Michigan jump Texas in the rankings last night,
what is the pathway for the Longhorns to still find
a way in at nine to three.
Speaker 5 (01:35:53):
To be honest, I don't know if it's there.
Speaker 18 (01:35:55):
I think they're gonna need a lot of help ahead
of them. Obviously, they have a huge opportunity this weekend
going against the Tech A and M team that's number
three and undefeated. But you mentioned Michigan jumping in front.
I mean, Michigan played Maryland last week. There's not really
a good reason that they would have. So I think
that that's the committee kind of telling us they don't
view Texas as a playoff caliber team. And when you
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look at the path ahead of them, right, I mean,
you've got teams like byu Is still on the outside.
They're gonna likely be eleven to one after this weekend
and play for a conference championship. You've still got Miami ahead,
You've still got Utah ahead, Like there are multiple teams
at this point that they would have to jump to
even have a chance to get in. So I think
the Texas in a really rough spot and more than
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just the third loss. Everybody's going to fixate on the
third loss. It's the way that those Georgia and Florida
losses happened.
Speaker 2 (01:36:45):
Sean, do you feel like that this game on Friday
in Austin, that people are looking at it the wrong way?
I mean that it's not about Texas's path, it's about
I mean how much A and M could dominate this game.
Speaker 3 (01:37:00):
Well, I think.
Speaker 18 (01:37:01):
What's interesting is this, right, is that Texas right now
in this state is the signature program in the States.
And you know, they've been to the National Semis each
of the past two years they've been They want a
Big twelve championship back in twenty twenty three, they made
an SEC championship game in twenty twenty four. They even
started the year number one in the preseason AP Top
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twenty five. This has been a run that has been
dominated by Texas over the past couple of years. This
is the moment where that's tied. Either changes or it doesn't,
because look, if TEXAAMM loses this game and makes the playoffs,
Texas still that team, right, Texas is still the big
bad guy kind of waiting in the corner. Even in
a disappointing season. Even in the best season that Texa
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A and M has had, I mean obviously in the
twenty first century, and you probably can go way further
back than that, Texas still has their number. So I
think that this is so much of a game that's
a prove it moment for Texas A and M that
you know what look like the reality is like text
A M. Yes, they have had an easier path than
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a lot of these other teams to get to eleven
and zero. Since that Notre Dame game, they've managed things well.
They've had to have that comeback against South Carolina. This
is the moment where you kind of figure out is
Texas A and M A having a really nice season
or are they a really dangerous program under Mike Elko
if they come out Because this is a mental game
much more than it is a physical game. When you
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look at the matchups of this game. I mean, I
think that text A and M, their receivers are going
to cause huge issues for Texas. Their pass is going
to cause huge issues for Texas. But it's not really
about that. I think it's really more than anything else
about proving to themselves that they have what it takes
to be one of these signature programs in college football.
So I think that this is kind of the moment
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where AMM thinks or swims and yeah, I do think
that obviously. You know, look, Texas is the big brand,
Texas has the big name. Texas was pre season number one.
They're trying to figure out if they can get into
the fields, which again I don't know that they can.
But to me, this aim is about and improving that
they deserve to be on that national stage and that
they can contemper for a national championship.
Speaker 4 (01:39:05):
He is Sean Jiraja. Give him a follow on Twitter
at Shahan Jerraja. Sean, I want to focus on on
Texas a little bit more because you talk about arch Manning.
The preseason expectations were through the roof.
Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
That wasn't by you, that wasn't by me, that wasn't
by people who actually loved college football. That was by narratives.
Speaker 4 (01:39:20):
But the way that he's played over the last month,
it does feel like he is starting to adapt to
what is college football. With a win on Friday, even
if they don't go to the College Football Playoff, that's
a good sign going into the offseason. About, Hey, we
fix a few things, we had three top ten wins,
we can get right back in the hunt to win
a national title because the way that sixteen is playing,
that's the version that we intended to see when we
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broke camp earlier in fall.
Speaker 15 (01:39:46):
No, I totally agree.
Speaker 18 (01:39:47):
And look, I mean I think that I think that
people sort of underrate how difficult it is to step
in and be great right.
Speaker 6 (01:39:55):
Away in college football.
Speaker 18 (01:39:56):
Like, it just doesn't happen all that often. We remember
the times that it right, We remember Bryce Young coming
in and immediately being awesome, We remember Jameis Winston coming
in as a red shirt freshman and immediately being awesome.
Speaker 6 (01:40:08):
But like, it doesn't.
Speaker 15 (01:40:10):
Usually work like that.
Speaker 18 (01:40:11):
And I think that, you know, certainly there are things
that are within artist control in the first out of
the season that I think could have gone better. I mean,
we talked about a lot right his mechanically, he was
having some struggles. I think that he was big game
hunting a little bit too much looking for those deep
ball passes, especially at a time when Texas just one
didn't have the receivers to make that happen, and two
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wasn't blocking well enough to make that happen. And I
think that where you've seen him grow the most over
you know, especially the past five or six weeks, is
I think that he's learned to take what's there at
a higher level. And I think you see him getting
more comfortable with saying look, man like, like if my
eight up for this game has to be five yards
in attempt, like, that's fine, that's what we need to win.
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You look through the first couple of weeks of the year,
I mean, his average depth of target on his passes
was like over eleven, which for a team that again
was having major issues with protection, just puts you in
a really bad spot and prevents you from getting any rhythm.
So I think that he's playing at a very high
level right now. I think that he's figuring out what
he can and can't.
Speaker 15 (01:41:12):
Get away with.
Speaker 18 (01:41:13):
And like you said, I mean when you start thinking
about him for twenty twenty six and what this team
can be, like, I think that this is a helpful
moment for them. Now, they still have a lot of
work to do, especially you talk about that offensive line
still major issues there. I mean, again, I think that
Techa and m is going to really really run rough shot.
Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
On this unit.
Speaker 18 (01:41:31):
So they've got some things to figure out at Texas,
but I don't think the quarterback is one of them.
Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
Sehan, I'm not putting this on Steve sarkise and like
he needs to watch over his back.
Speaker 3 (01:41:40):
But playoff, no playoffs this year.
Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
It seems like that next year the expectations are going
to be even higher for him with all of the
pressure that's already built in there in Austin. But also too,
you've got Texas Tech going to the College Football Playoff,
maybe even SMU other schools that are going to go there.
What can we be looking for or what can we
be looking at out of Steve Sarkisian in twenty twenty six?
Speaker 18 (01:42:06):
Yeah you mentioned, I mean there is a realistic possibility
that there are four Texas teams in the College football
Playoffs and none of them is the University of Texas,
which is just a crazy thing to think about. So,
you know, look, I think that certainly, let's start with this.
Steve Sarkisian has earned himself a mulligan, right, has earned
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himself a down season. And then again, like even when
you talk about down seasons, like you know, he's gonna
win eight or nine games, it's not that bad, but
this is clearly a disappointing season. I mean, Steve Serkisen
can look us in the face and say, well, just
wanting according to everybody. Man, you know that this is
a playoff caliber program. You know that this is the
championship caliber program, and certainly you can't look at what
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they've done this year and say that it's good enough.
So I think that there's a couple things to look
at right one. I mean, I think that they really
have to figure out what's going on on the offensive line.
You know, whether it's a development issue, whether it's a
coaching is, whether it's you know, just kind of a
wrong pieces in the wrong place issue, whether they need
to hit the portal. They have to figure that out.
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I mean, they had that first recruiting class that came
in where they obviously, you know, really leveraged nil before
everybody else did and brought in one of the great
offensive line recruiting.
Speaker 3 (01:43:16):
Class of all time.
Speaker 18 (01:43:17):
But those guys are starting to age out and you're
seeing that they haven't replaced since then, So they've got
to figure that piece of it out. I think that also, look,
I mean, I've been an advocate that that I think
that see CIRCUSIULD really benefit from having a true offensive coordinator. Now, look,
you can still be involved in play calls, you can
still have moments where you have a lot of influence.
(01:43:38):
But I think as a head coach, like I think
back to that on sides kick that Georgia had, and like,
of course the head coach wasn't thinking about that, he
was thinking about what play he was going to call next, right, Like,
It's just a different type of workflow when you don't
have to worry about the nuances of winning an individual
chess move and can think about the big picture. I
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think that that's something that you know, at least he
needs to evaluate. It doesn't mean that he has to
do it, but I think he.
Speaker 15 (01:44:04):
Should evaluate it at least.
Speaker 18 (01:44:06):
And like you said, I mean, this is a program
that has invested at a very high level. And the
funny thing about it, right, Texas has a number one
recruiting class in twenty twenty five for the first time
in the modern recruiting era. They have, of course arch Manning,
the most highly touted quarterback maybe in the you know,
the history of college football in some ways, and look
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around college football right now, there are a lot of
programs that and a lot of coaches who have run
into big trouble because they bet.
Speaker 3 (01:44:36):
On a huge star.
Speaker 18 (01:44:39):
I'm thinking about James Franklin at you know, with Drew
Aller right, like they put a lot into that. I'm
thinking about LSU and Brian Kelly with the amount that
they invested to bring back Garrett and Asmeier like. I
think that the blessing of being able to maintain and
bring in some of these guys is also a curse
of expectations. Well, when there is so much literal money
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being put into a program year over year, the bar
changes for what you need to accomplish. Steve Sarkisian can
certainly survive this one, but twenty twenty six they got
to go back to looking like the last two years.
Speaker 3 (01:45:12):
Shahan.
Speaker 4 (01:45:12):
Let's go to a big picture scenario here when it
comes to college football playoff because not everything is set
in stone. And you brought this up a couple times
in the past byu status. They go eleven in one,
you go face off against Texas Tech and Arlington. They
beat Texas Tech in Arlington. Well, you're not leaving Texas
Tech out because they have the head to head win
during the regular season, but BYU is guaranteed a spot
in the College Football playoff. And then we have the
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argument of what's to do with Notre Dame, what to
do with Miami. Miami isn't playing as good as Notre Dame,
but they have the head to head win. If this
were to be the case where somehow Alabama loses in
the SEC title game and BYU win the Big Twelve
title game, is the easy solution to kick out Notre
Dame or to kick out Alabama.
Speaker 3 (01:45:53):
It's a lot of team like Texas Tech stay in
the playoff race.
Speaker 18 (01:45:56):
No, it's a good question, And I mean, what's the
intro thinking about this committee especially and about sort of
the results that we've gotten to this point, is that
like they seem to be kind of just leaning on
which teams they think are best, right, like to put
it simply, and even though Notre Dame, I mean, frankly
has zero signature wins, I mean their best win is
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is USC who you know, is fine, Like they are
just like well, but they're beating up all the bad
teams by a law, They're beating SYRACU seventy to seven.
And we seem to like that you know, Alabama, for example,
they had four straight ranked victories in the middle of
the season, and still they're behind Notre Dame DYU.
Speaker 12 (01:46:35):
Who you mentioned.
Speaker 18 (01:46:36):
I mean, they're treated like they're a two loss team.
I don't understand why that is. I mean, they have
a strength of schedule per ESPN that rates higher than
both Notre Dame and Oldness and one fewer loss. They're
not treated like that. So, I mean, this committee seems
to really love Notre Dame for whatever reason it is.
But you know, you also don't want to set the
president that if you lose a conference championship game that
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you know that you get knocked out of the field.
We saw it with the with the SMU last year.
Of course they lose and they still keep them ahead
of Alabama, And so I mean, I really, you know,
don't necessarily have a great feel of what would happen
if we ended up in that situation. Now, look, if
if Alabama loses close, I think that they just can't
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they can't kick.
Speaker 3 (01:47:22):
Them out again.
Speaker 18 (01:47:23):
It would be such a terrible precedent. But then again,
you start getting into the you know, the the Notre
Dame of it all, and you know, again in this scenario,
BYU is a bid Steeler. I don't think they should
be a Steeler, but in this scenario they would be.
Like I feel like the committee might be forced to
have a reckoning on Notre Dame because I don't think
that you can realistically sit here and try to knock
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any of those other teams out because they played in
the postseason.
Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
Shahanjay Rajah again CBS Sports. Join us here on the
Morning Drive. Shehan, have a great Thanksgiving and enjoy the
coverage this weekend.
Speaker 18 (01:47:57):
Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
Thanks so much for having me all rightpreciate it again.
So we've covered a lot on college football. Do have
one more on that one that we can carry over
because I've told you exactly what the college Football Playoff
Committee is, and it looks like they are playing it
to a t right now.
Speaker 3 (01:48:13):
So we'll have that.
Speaker 2 (01:48:14):
Brad, I know you want to get on the get
in on the astros, so we'll let you do that.
You want to join them seven one three two on
two five seven ninety against seven one three two on
two five seven ninety. So the Morning Drive with Danna
Cole right here, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 7 (01:48:28):
This is the Sports Talk seven ninety Morning Show, Brad,
Good morning, Good.
Speaker 19 (01:48:37):
Morning, Hey Cole. Congrats on your regular no more filling guy. Anyway,
not much has been said about it, but it borderlines
the Mavericks trading Luka Doncic. I'm sorry, Mauricio Dubon. I mean,
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you want to get rid of them for certain reasons,
but who you got in return is really disgusting to me.
You got somebody that can hit, so you can never
pinch hit him in the later latter innings, So you
took that away, the most valuable utility man probably in
(01:49:20):
all baseball. You could have at least got a pitcher
in the minor leagues, or maybe even two.
Speaker 9 (01:49:27):
He could have.
Speaker 19 (01:49:27):
Called every team in Major League Baseball and gone down
the line and picked out maybe a pitcher or two,
and I guarantee somebody.
Speaker 3 (01:49:37):
Would have given him.
Speaker 19 (01:49:38):
I don't know why he went to his old team,
the Atlanta Brays. Took the easy way out. This player
is supposed to be a wizard defensively, but got no
offense at all. I mean, I just don't.
Speaker 15 (01:49:54):
Get the Astros.
Speaker 19 (01:49:56):
They want to buy everybody at the trade deadline sort of,
and then when the new season starts, they want to
cut payroll, and a five million dollar guy is not
a twenty million dollar guy. That's not much payroll to cut.
I just don't get the whole trade. It makes me
scratch my head.
Speaker 3 (01:50:16):
Brad.
Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
One of the guys that you mentioned was a generational player.
Mauricio Dubon was a utility guy. I appreciate how much
you love the guy. I appreciate how much we all
love the guy. But there's no comparison there, Brad. I mean,
we're talking about a guy that's easily replaceable.
Speaker 14 (01:50:33):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:50:33):
I understand what he gives you goal glove defense, but
I just don't I don't see the comparison.
Speaker 19 (01:50:39):
I'm sorry, my man, he's not gonna hit this guy
they got. I mean, why couldn't you got a picture
you needed a picture, get a minor league stud picture
from one of the teams.
Speaker 3 (01:50:51):
That that part's fair.
Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
I mean, you know, you're talking about what you got
back in return, but you also have to remember why
this deal was made. And I mean they made this
deal because they're trying to shed salary, and I mean
that's that's the main reason. And it's also too I mean,
I think you look at as a utility player, well,
I can find that guy, and I think that they
believe that they can, and they believe they will.
Speaker 4 (01:51:16):
Brad, I gotta ask you, out of curiosity, what part
of Houston.
Speaker 3 (01:51:18):
Are you in?
Speaker 5 (01:51:21):
Oh?
Speaker 19 (01:51:22):
Well, right now, I'm just bodying my time in southwest Houston.
But I bought some land in Cleveland, Texas.
Speaker 3 (01:51:31):
Do you know the sugar Land area pretty well?
Speaker 12 (01:51:34):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (01:51:35):
Yeah, okay, Street.
Speaker 4 (01:51:36):
I think what you should do is you should call
Nick Allen, the guy who the Astro's gotten the Marisa
Dubond deal, and show him some apartment complexes and some
facilities around there, because I think that most of the
time that he's gonna be spending in the Astros organization
will be a Constellation fielder, won't be at Diking Park.
Speaker 19 (01:51:51):
Oh well, that sounds a little better. That sounds a lot.
In fact, trading Dubon for nothing is better other than
getting this guy on the forty man roster. He doesn't
even belong there. He's taking the place of one of
the tria A minor leaguers that probably belongs there. I
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just I just don't get it, man.
Speaker 3 (01:52:13):
I know you're not looking.
Speaker 19 (01:52:16):
As much high value as I am a Dubond, but
he was as close to a starter as anybody. This
guy they're getting, he said, he's gonna maybe play one
inning here or one aning there.
Speaker 6 (01:52:32):
He's nothing.
Speaker 19 (01:52:33):
Man. Anyway, you guys have a heavy thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (01:52:37):
Same to you, Brad. Appreciate it, buddy.
Speaker 2 (01:52:38):
I mean, you know, you're talking about twenty six men
on the roster at a certain points. And look, here's
the other thing too for all to talk about. Zach Deznzo.
I mean, is Zach Dezenzo a guy that kind of
becomes the Mauricio Dubon for.
Speaker 4 (01:52:49):
You now, Zach Desnzo I believe will not be on
the rosters at opening Dame. Oh, that he's part of
one of these deals. That is where my brain goes. Okay,
that's fair.
Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
It just again, I mean, you know, looking at you know, hey,
you're getting ready to your utility guys. I mean I
understood with your reeas at first, because it was you
don't need two of them, You only need one guy
that can be able to fill that role and do
bonds one of those guys, and you've got others that
can platoon here and there.
Speaker 4 (01:53:14):
If you're cutting both though, to me, it either means
one of two things. Either you believe that Bryce Matthews
can be a guy that plays everywhere, and you're gonna
try him in the outfield just a little bit, or
you are going to see them make a trade for
a bigger name that is a utility player.
Speaker 2 (01:53:28):
All right, So do you want to get back into
the Colts in Texans Conversation? Obviously, we didn't have time
to get to the college football playoff one, so we'll
squeeze that one in the nine o'clock hour. But we
got Mike Chappell Fox fifty nine up there in Indy
hopping on with us for a few minutes, and we'll
get a look at the Colts right here on the
Morning Drive with Dan and Cole. Right here, Sports Talk
(01:53:51):
seven ninety age down. The Morning Drive continues. Now now
here's Dan.
Speaker 3 (01:53:59):
And Cole talk some Colts with Mike Chappell.
Speaker 2 (01:54:04):
Been covering the Colts since nineteen eighty four, now doing
it with Fox fifty nine and CBS four up there
in Indy. Mike, appreciate the time. Hey, one of the
big topics we've been talking about this morning is, you know,
who's the pressure on for this one? Do you feel
like that maybe the Colts could come into this game,
feeling like the pressure is more on them given the
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way the last three weeks have gone for them and
how it has for the Texans.
Speaker 14 (01:54:30):
Well they should. But then if I'm if I'm Houston
getting a sixth loss this early or not this early,
I remember last year of the season wouldn't be good,
but the Colts had to get things figured out. They
just do lost two out of three and it's been
the same issue they're having trouble with keeping Daniel Jones clean.
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I guess he wasn't sacked last week with the pressure
got two am when you got er addict. I would
still say it's more on Houston just because of their
ozering three start when you can starting three. These these
guys have done that for a while and it just
it limits your ability to have mess ups later. So
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I still think this is more more of a upper
case must win for Houston. But I think this is
pretty much win for the Colts because they go to
Jacksonville next week. I have not won there like in
ten years, so and you never know what you're getting
with Jet with the Jaguars. So I think more on Houston,
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but this is one the Colts need to get seriously, Mike,
what do you.
Speaker 4 (01:55:43):
Think is the kind of the fault right now when
it comes to Colts offense. Is it the offensive line
because they give seven sacks against Atlanta in Berlin, they
go five against Pittsburgh. Or is it Daniel Jones maybe
rushing through the plays and not being able to find
a consistent identity in the passing attack, which is the
one that you feel maybe is hindering the success Indianapolis
over the last few weeks.
Speaker 14 (01:56:02):
Well, it's probably started with. Now I got to where
I've quit saying offensive line, I'm saying pass protection because
there have been blitzes and the running backs Jeff Tators
missed a couple, and so it's the pass protection that
started there. And then once the protection starts to get leaky,
then I think any quarterback starts starts anticipating or saying
(01:56:26):
I have less time. I think it has started with
the protection, and then I think to some degree, he's
allowed that to bother him. And you know, and as
good as this offense has been and can be, it's
only that way if if the quarterback is completing seventy
percent and getting the ball where it used to be
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a converting third down in the last three weeks now
it's not been the case. I put it more on
the protection and then Jones is a close second.
Speaker 2 (01:56:57):
And again you know, Mike Chappill join us here, Fox
fifty nine and CBS four up there in Indianapolis. I mean,
along those same lines, you know that the Texans are
gonna try to take away Jonathan Taylor, But do you
feel like he can still be able to be productive
enough to help the Colts win this game? Or if
it comes down to Daniel Jones going up against this
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Texans defensive front, that he can even be somebody that
can help him out.
Speaker 14 (01:57:23):
I don't think they can win throwing the ball forty
forty five times. I just don't. And yeah, I think
it's easier to take a running back away. But having
said that, if you've got in my mind, the best
running back in the league and a good offensive line,
then even when somebody's trying to take it away, Doug Gonna,
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you need to be good enough.
Speaker 5 (01:57:48):
You know.
Speaker 14 (01:57:48):
I remember things Peyton Manning used to tell us all
the time still stick with me. And he hated to
run bad plays. He gets to the line and he
knew the play wasn't gonna work. Well, why run it
because he only gets you know, sixty some plays in
the game. But at some point you need to run.
You need you need to be able to run enough
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to where it's not thirteen carries for forty yards and
then you're playing right into Houston strength again. I don't
think they can they can win with Daniel Jones just
flinging the bottle over all over Lucas oil. They've got
to run enough and whatever that is. I don't know
whether it's yards for a timp, whether it's a temps,
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but if you've got a top five running game, you
should be able to run good enough when somebody is
not going to let you run. They've got to find
some way to keep Jonathan Taylor involved in the run game.
Speaker 4 (01:58:49):
When you look at the positioning for the passing attack,
that's been a strength of the Texans all year. But
you're getting back Jinglen Peach potentially this week. Can you
talk about the matchup of Tyler Warren. He has been
kind of a war path, quietly putting up significant numbers
that allows Indianapolis to feel like that they have a
third weapon. If he gets involved, how much does that
open up the passing game for guys like Allen Piers
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and Michael Pittman Jr.
Speaker 14 (01:59:12):
A bunch because they move him around. Is he's split
out wide? Is he in line tight? Is he in
the back rod as a pullback, which probably makes it
more difficult to keep track of where he is defensively
and covering. He's been Expectations were through the roof for him,
and he's exceeded him. He really has. I think he's
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on pace for right out of a thousand yards. He's
already broke the franchise record for catches by a tight end.
It does open things up because they've got good options
with Michael Pittman and Alec Pearce and Josh Dams and
then you throw in Tyler Warren. So the options are there.
But that's where the protection needs to be strong enough
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to let these you know, options open up and not
do yet to keep in extra people, uh, to protect you.
They love to go and have four and five receivers
out all the time. Well that's hard to do when
you can't protect your quarterback. So but Tyler Warren has
been everything they expected and he's gonna get five or
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six balls a game just because they find they scheme
ways to get him open downfield a lot of times.
Speaker 2 (02:00:25):
A couple more Man's with Mike Chapel again from Fox
fifty nine CBS four up there in Indianapolis talking to the
Colts ahead of the Colts and Texans on Sunday and
Indy defensively, what do you think is going to be
the key for the Colts in this one?
Speaker 14 (02:00:41):
Do Lutch Houston run? And I guess are you guys
expecting Stroud to play? Yes, that seems that seems to
be you know what's going to happen, so and and
you can make him win, make him win games. Uh,
I just think that. And they've got the outside with
with with Dootie Ward and Sauce Gardner, they've got you know,
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in the past, they haven't had anybody to take care
of Nico Collins at all. I still have visions in
running down the middle of the field for whatever it was,
seven or eighty yards for a touchdown that that shouldn't
He's still a quality received, but he's gonna get his.
But with corners that they've got now, they're better prepared
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for this. That's why I say. And then don't let them,
don't let you get the run game going, which you
open things up. So I think they're defensively, they're equipped
to not get gouged in the passing game. And that's
why I still think this comes back to what can
the offense do enough, because to this point, Houston really
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hasn't been able to score a ton. I don't know
that they can win a track meet with the Colts,
I really don't. But I don't think this is going
to be a track meet. This is going to be
a rock fight. I think from the start, just you know,
eliminate the big plays as much as you can, and
then let's let your offense do enough to win it.
Speaker 4 (02:02:07):
Mike at thirty seconds or the last, we know that
Leazi Lotsu has been phenomenal this year in the pass
rushing department. No to Forrest Buckner in this game. Who
on the defensive line needs to dismantle c J.
Speaker 3 (02:02:16):
Strow to be able to go ahead and give it
an advantage to a team like Indianapolis.
Speaker 14 (02:02:21):
They need to get a lot too, and Quitty pay
the edge guys. Lots who is playing really well. The
numbers really don't reflect that with what he's got five
of the six and f sax. But he's played well.
It's really crazy. People say, well, Houston's got this great
pass rush, which you do. You guys have got thirty
three sacks.
Speaker 3 (02:02:38):
Right y?
Speaker 14 (02:02:39):
Yeah, so the coasts, so the coach have thirty three sacks.
It's a perception of Who's is better. Houston's better. The
Colts do it collectively, and they've got they've got a
they've got a collectively swarm CJ straand.
Speaker 2 (02:02:54):
It's gonna be a fun one, no doubt about. It's
in Mike Chaplin know it's gonna be in the building
for that with Fox fifty nine and CBS four up
there in Indy. Mike, really appreciate the time, have a
good coverage on Sunday, and have a happy.
Speaker 3 (02:03:07):
Thanksgiving you too. You guys do well, all right.
Speaker 2 (02:03:11):
Take care again, Mike Chappell again, Fox fifty nine and
CBS four there in Indianapolis. From the Colet side, let's
flip it right back over to the Texans side, because
our Texans insider Aaron Wilson joins us every single week
here on the show.
Speaker 3 (02:03:24):
A special Wednesday visit with Aaron coming up right here.
Speaker 2 (02:03:27):
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This is the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole.
Speaker 2 (02:04:00):
Out in San Francisco taking on the Warriors tonight and
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for that college football playoff rankings out last night. You
got A and m in at number three, you got
Texas at number sixteen, and he got Texas Tech at
number five. Still trying to get a hold of Aaron Wilson,
So while we wait on him, let's squeeze in Adrian
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really quick.
Speaker 3 (02:04:22):
Adrian, good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 20 (02:04:26):
How are y'all?
Speaker 5 (02:04:26):
Good man?
Speaker 3 (02:04:27):
How are you?
Speaker 20 (02:04:28):
I understand that that guy lives in Indianapolis, but I
know he just didn't call here talking about the good
secondary that they have. Has he been has he not
been watching Texan games this year? Ask anybody what defense
comes to mind when you say defense in the NFL,
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they'll probably tell you Denver, Baltimore, of course, because you
know we're used to them just raking stuff and then Houston.
I don't think I've heard anybody say Indianapolis all season,
so this is gonna be fun. They just treated the
MVP like he.
Speaker 1 (02:05:05):
Was a rag doll.
Speaker 20 (02:05:07):
Daniel Jones, your running back is gonna have to save
your life this week, and we're probably not gonna let
you because these boys are hungry. And if you're listening
to stephen A, they are vicious. That's a word right
there that's not used in.
Speaker 9 (02:05:24):
Football in a long time.
Speaker 6 (02:05:27):
Vicious.
Speaker 20 (02:05:28):
Remember that this weekend, I've already got popcorn, Pitt's already going,
and I've already got my medicine for the weekend. Daniel,
I'll be smoking for your headache, brother in America. Remember
this is the cheapest turkey we had to fiden.
Speaker 3 (02:05:46):
There you go, Adrian, appreciate it, buddy always.
Speaker 2 (02:05:49):
He's always got plenty to be able to hop on
with us about, but we got plenty of more to
be able to cover, especially on the Texans side. With
our Texans insider here that sports to talk seven ninety
Aaron Wilson joining us here on the morning Drive. And Aaron,
let's just get right to it. This afternoon of practice.
Do we see number seven jogging out onto the field and.
Speaker 3 (02:06:11):
Going through work.
Speaker 6 (02:06:13):
Yes, indeed number seven scheduled to practice, and then.
Speaker 3 (02:06:18):
The same with Jalen Petrie.
Speaker 6 (02:06:20):
That is the expectation, and neither is cleared yet. The
hope is still that they will be cleared. There's plenty
of time for them to get cleared when the concussion
protocole works. It just time worked against them last week.
And you know, the concussions were pretty pretty tough ones
for both guys. Both guys had some difficult symptoms. CJ
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had since Stivy de light and headaches and Jalen had headaches.
His was like on the last play that he played
in against the Broncos, so it didn't really get any
attention at all. And then the next day he complained
of symptoms and then check them out and the terminated
a concussion. But both guys are doing well and the
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hope is I don't know if they'll technically clear them today.
It could be tomorrow when they have another practice, and
I would imagine by Friday it's all, you know, sort
of official that the guys are back and cleared for
the Colts game. It could take it could be faster,
but it could also be longer. Because there's been a
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gap between the practices obviously with the time all from
the time of the Thursday game.
Speaker 3 (02:07:32):
Aaron won pressure last week one soccer for loss, zero sacks,
ariontai Or Story at left tackle, Titus Howard at left guard,
Jake Andrews at center.
Speaker 4 (02:07:40):
You throw in Edingram at right a right guard, Trent
Brown at right tackle. Is not the offensive line moving
forward for the Texans the rest of the.
Speaker 6 (02:07:46):
Year, Yes, col it is. And I was talking with
Titus Howard and Ed Ingram where Titus was giving out
five hundred turkeys with Ed last night at the Houston
Texan MCA, and they feel like they really landed on
the best five. And that's the feeling around the team
that this is the group and barring an injury, they're
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going forward with this. And this is also I don't
think it's a coincidence. It's their biggest offensive line, especially
with having Trent Brown out there. I don't know if
he's six' eight three. EIGHTY i think he might be,
taller AND i think he might weigh close to Foreigner.
Prounce he's a big, man he can, Move he's knocking
off the rust and playing some good.
Speaker 2 (02:08:25):
Football Get Aaron Wilson texans inside for us here At
Sports talk seven. Ninety you also see some of his
work WITH kprc two here In. TOWN i mean along
those lines of what you And cole were just talking about,
THERE i, mean does that mean finally the rotations stop
and we're not seeing anything other than that group of
(02:08:46):
five you know left over to right tackle?
Speaker 6 (02:08:50):
Right, yeah you, Know, Dan they've experimented quite a. Bit
they've had some. Missteps they've also had injuries that have
affected the ability to have a steady offensive line. Lineup
but this, CONFIGURATION i feel like it works because it
gets your look at the draft pedigree of the, guys
people that have won award things like, that highest rated guys.
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Traditionally and, yeah it took a lot of. ITERATIONS i
mean The lake And tomlinson there a little bit of
juice scrugs for nine plays city Sal it's been, interesting
to say the least and the goals in the same
all the time to protect the, quarterback and they did
it against The. BILLS i, mean Turn, brown you have
no pressures to joy both so that hasn't happened. Before
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you see he never gets shut, out But trent did,
it and it's a credit to these, Guys but it
does feel a little bit like they kind of just
backed into this situation because it happened due to at
one point At ingram having a knee, brain them having
to move other guys, around and, finally you, know coming
up with this. Through BUT i wouldn't say it's any
(02:09:59):
like inspired. Thinking it's a kind of happenstance a. Bit
but regardless of how it, HAPPENED i think it's a good.
Speaker 4 (02:10:06):
Group, Aaron you AND i both know That Dimico ryans
is never going to say we need to force feed
the football into a. Player but you look At Nico
collins's production With Davis mills at The helm eleven, targets fifteen,
targets ten. Targets before The buffalo, game you only have
three targets fifty six. Yards it did feel like that
those two were seeing an eye to eye. Rhythm WITH.
Cj strode coming on back. In do you think it
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is going to be a point of emphasis to force
feed twelve as much as possible going up Against.
Speaker 6 (02:10:30):
Sastgarner, well they wanted to read the whole. Field but you,
know in the past he's either been praised or criticized
for only throwing To Nico, collins and then you know
this season there was a long stretch WHERE i didn't
feel like he was throwing enough To Nico. COLLINS i
do think they will, emphasize let's have a lot of
plays For. Nico and if you go back To CJ's
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history against The colts And, nico albeit not against players
the caliber Of Trevor's warden Saus, gardner he would go
deep against The, colts especially that really BIG i thought
kind of signature game of his rookie season late in
the year to get them into the. PLAYOFFS i don't
think he'll be shy about throwing To, nico and he
likes To, nico AND i would stay With. Davis you,
(02:11:17):
know they were draft brins for a long. Time there's
a real comfort level For. Davis he's just been throwing
passes even more years THAN cj To. Nico but, YEAH
i expect that had to keep that connection. Rolling they need.
To this is their best. Playmaker also knew this exercise
who would start from this offense for the majority of the,
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teams and the answers comes back To Nico. Collins that
kind of says it. All that you, know he's the
guy who needs to throw the ball.
Speaker 2 (02:11:46):
To Aaron wilson again join us here on the morning.
Drive And aaron was in the locker room with you
the other day when you Asked kamari last. Year we
played the answer yesterday about can this defense still get even?
Better and he almost kind of scoffed at it was, like, oh,
absolutely what would a better part of this defense?
Speaker 3 (02:12:03):
Look?
Speaker 6 (02:12:04):
Like you, Know i'm nitpicking a bit, here but you,
know you don't, see you, know sometimes you, KNOW i
think they get good play from, linebacker especially as he's As,
shire and sometimes E jcp will make some big, plays
but you could probably use some more big plays in
the linebackers and defensive tackle. Position defensive tackle was good
this pass, game but there have been other games where
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they were kind of, quiet you, Know LIKE i, Said i'm.
Nitpicking at, Safety Jalen reed had a very good, debut
but he also allowed six catches on six. Targets so,
yeah if you want, to you, know not just be
always glass half. FULL i think you've got to look
at a few of these area and, say, hey that
could be. Better AND i think for the most part
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it's been very GOOD i know they got caught bad
situation The James cook, run but sometimes there just big
plays that shows some. Vulnerability and now they're about to
Play Jonathan. Taylor so there's been some backs that had,
success Including cook this pass. GAME i think they've got to,
really you, know tackle. Better there have been some times
when they missed some, tackles including The Tampa bay, game
cost them the. Game so, YEAH i mean even an elite,
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defense top rank all that good stuff have holes in.
It AND i think it's just a good reminder that
you had a really vigilant when it cles of. Defense
you can't ever really relax and rest on your, lurels
AND i don't think they. DO i think, they Like,
camari kind of typified that they are hungry, bunch and
you know that's. Smart that's what you want to. Hear
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you don't want to hear. Them, yeah, yeah and know
we're the best and you know we're. This, NO i
don't think that's why they're good on. DEFENSE i think
they have some star, players BUT i also think that
they have a good mentality of the swarm mentality That
Samiko ryans, teaches and it's a good. Scheme it's pretty,
basic but players can understand it and they can make it.
Speaker 3 (02:13:50):
Work, Aaron we've been.
Speaker 4 (02:13:52):
Arguing about this a little bit throughout the, morning AND
i want to bring this up to. You on one,
Side indianapolis has lost two. Games they are now start
to fall out of line a little, bit and they
need an overtime win against The Atlanta falcons to keep
that winning. Streak kind of, Intact houston is on a
three game win, streak but they're switching on over TO Cj.
Stroud they have an opportunity to gain some ground in
the division with the, win and if they, lose it's
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a sixth. Loss so in your, opinion who is underneath
more pressure going into this match up At Lucas Oil
stadium On.
Speaker 6 (02:14:21):
Sunday The. Texans they have to lend to keep their
hopes alive in the. Playoffs they can't lose. Ground you
can look at the playoff, standings you already see that
they rank behind The steelers for tie. Breakers they have
no choice really but to keep. Winning there will be
some games later in the, year depending on how it all,
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falls that may not be as pivotal to their playoff.
Outlook but right now they got to keep this going
they need a fourth win in a, row and especially
to do it against The. Colts what will mean for the,
Playoffs it's really. PIVOTAL i think it's gonna be a
tough game to. Win obviously up, there it's A bugasoil, stadium,
dificult loud. Environment but you look at The colts to
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the kind of ordinary of this past, Game it's like
The chiefs have been world beaters all. Year you saw
success from their receivers against The colts. SECONDARY i, MEAN
i don't think that The colts are world. Beaters they
have some really good football. Players they have a strong
overall roster built By Chris. Ballard BUT i think their
head coach is so, Smart Shane. Steichen but this wasn't
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a great game by, them AND i think it maybe
showed some vulnerability for The. Colts, texans, though under the,
pressure The colts have earned the right to coast a little,
bit maybe have a bad game here or. There there's
no margin, prayer not after an known three.
Speaker 2 (02:15:41):
Start he's Our texans insider here At Sports talk seven
ninety also WITH kprc.
Speaker 3 (02:15:46):
Two He's Aaron.
Speaker 2 (02:15:47):
Wilson, Aaron, hey appreciate the your early week visits and
we'll go back to our Normal friday next.
Speaker 3 (02:15:53):
Week have a Happy thanksgiving.
Speaker 6 (02:15:55):
Guys, yeah Happy thanksgiving to both of you. GUYS a great.
Speaker 2 (02:15:59):
Holiday and, yeah real, quick what's the go? To let's
take turkey out of? It what's the go?
Speaker 3 (02:16:05):
TO i like.
Speaker 6 (02:16:07):
Stuffing a mac and. Cheese those are my. FAVORITE i love.
Sides those are my big. Ones also like nice green bean.
Casserole those are really good with the little fried onion
strips on the. Top those are.
Speaker 2 (02:16:20):
Great three solid, answers that's for. Sure it's a sides,
holiday no doubt about. It Aaron wilson, again appreciate, it.
Buddy we'll talk to you next. Week thank, you, guys good,
night all, right see, you. Buddy, yeah it's that's that's
really what it's, about because like it's it's you take
the turkey out of.
Speaker 3 (02:16:34):
It we get.
Speaker 2 (02:16:35):
It it's, there we know. It it's it's the go.
To but it's, like you, know a great steak at
a great. Steakhouse you know that it's going to be
a great, steak but don't you need like the potatoes
out grot and then like all of the other things
to go along with it to make it even. Better
it's the rug that ties the room. Together that's What thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (02:16:51):
Is it's two one now between me And aaron and.
You when it comes to toughing and, dressing, no it's it's.
Speaker 2 (02:16:57):
Stressing it's tough because you two Are yankee carpetbaggers that
don't know how to say it.
Speaker 3 (02:17:00):
Right it's. Fine oh now we got somebody in a
tussle right.
Speaker 2 (02:17:03):
Here that's that's, it you, know that's that's one hundred
percent what it is us us down here in the
southern part of The. States we know how it's supposed
to be. Said and it's. Dressing, NO i don't think
take the g.
Speaker 3 (02:17:14):
OFF i don't THINK i want to, have you, know
a nice little sauce on top of my. Turkey it's no.
Sauce it's just golden, goodness especially if it's The italian.
Speaker 2 (02:17:23):
Dressing dressing you're one of. Those, yeah, ELSE i get.
IT i get it all. Right so let's continue That sexans.
Conversation you want to get in someone three, two, one
two five seven ninety because, well maybe The texans feel
like they've got their offensive line figured, out but does
one person in particular agree what you hear from? Them
as we continue here in the nine o'clock the, hour
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it is The Morning drive With dan And.
Speaker 7 (02:17:46):
Cole Sports talk seven Ninety Dan, Matthews Cole. Thompson this
is The Morning drive With dan And.
Speaker 4 (02:17:56):
Cole we't react afterwards after the. Record it's not that.
HARD i didn't. Mind j's.
Speaker 3 (02:18:02):
Awesome, Alright oh the? Brick, yeah, okay all, right there you.
Speaker 2 (02:18:08):
GO i remember a buddy of mine told a quick
story which by the way to The rockets taking on
The warriors L wes tonight eight O'clock rockets launch pad of,
Course texans back on the practice field getting ready for
The colts On. Sunday buddy of mine told me a
story About Radio row one year when he came up
and introduced himself to them and he, goes, hey, Guys I'M.
Jt The, brick and they're, like, huh like is that
the or The so that's HOW i always REMEMBER.
Speaker 3 (02:18:31):
Jt The. BRICK i, say the people have a very
strong opinion about that.
Speaker 2 (02:18:36):
ONE i, MEAN i don't know If i've ever heard
anybody other than my buddy bringing it up and you
saying it right, There i've ever heard anybody say.
Speaker 3 (02:18:43):
It what do you say the or THE jt the Brick, no, no, no
just in.
Speaker 2 (02:18:46):
General If i'm just If i'm just naturally saying it
the but you, know it's one of those like If
i'm kind of caught on the hard, tea Then i'll
say The.
Speaker 3 (02:18:55):
No that's What i'm. SAYING i say he's the and
people have a problem with.
Speaker 4 (02:18:57):
It nine, time oh soon you know The ohio, state
or you could just say The ohio.
Speaker 3 (02:19:01):
State you know? What seven one, three, two one, two
five seven. Ninety question of the.
Speaker 4 (02:19:04):
Day Is, Planes trains And automobiles A thanksgiving classic because
it's the only movie that you.
Speaker 3 (02:19:11):
See but let's be.
Speaker 4 (02:19:12):
Real you Watch, Plane trades And automobiles at any time
of the. Year you ain't Watching how The Grit Still,
christmas you ain't Watching Home alone In. July you're not
going to talk about The Polar express In. March seven, one,
three two and two five seven. Ninety Playing trains And?
Automobiles those are? Pillows is it A thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (02:19:30):
Classic what a?
Speaker 4 (02:19:32):
Movie if the if the end doesn't get you in the,
fields you don't have. Feels see the ending doesn't get,
me the middle gets.
Speaker 2 (02:19:38):
Me, no the end gets, me because you know when
you see him in there like almost like a sad
dog in the bus. Station he realizes he's got nowhere to.
Go like that that gets you because it's, like, oh
there there's a human in there with with With Steve.
Speaker 3 (02:19:51):
MARTIN i like, that.
Speaker 4 (02:19:52):
OKAY i will, say Like Chris, farley everyone talks about
him as being one of the greatest. Icons we lost
earlier in the two, thousands Losing John canny.
Speaker 3 (02:19:59):
Before sign AND i love.
Speaker 2 (02:20:01):
TOO i, mean you, know because we've got the documentary
on him, too and his kids are still, alive so
they kind of keep his memory. Alive but like you
hear the story About Macaulay culkin had an overbearing dad
and that it Was John candy on set that was, like.
Speaker 3 (02:20:14):
Hey, hey, buddy you, know are you? Okay you, know
like is everything all?
Speaker 2 (02:20:17):
Right like that he supposedly was notorious for like the child.
Actors he looked out for. Them, Dude i'm not gonna lie.
It that is, Like i'm not a big documentary. PERSON
i like me as What i'm gonna actually. Watch, yeah
well for, Sure Larry, steve get you in here in
just a. Second But Tmiko ryans with the in house
media over there At Texans we've been talking to the offensive,
line talking the offensive line and also the versatility they
(02:20:39):
got In Titus.
Speaker 21 (02:20:39):
Howard, yeah, well contain to roll with our offensive. Line for,
me it's always been about trying to get our best
five guys out. There titus has done a great job
just onself as we moving where he's played right, tackle right,
gar left guar or whatever we've asked.
Speaker 3 (02:20:55):
Him you, know he's done.
Speaker 21 (02:20:56):
It it shows that he's a smart player to be
able to handle as much as we put on his.
Plate so he's done that and he's played good for.
Speaker 3 (02:21:04):
Us All i've been asking for the entire, Time cole
is a group of. Five i'm asking for a group of.
Five you don't roll offensive.
Speaker 2 (02:21:12):
Lineman you don't move your rookie left tackle over to right,
tackle because injury is going to dictate that you do
none of those. Things you put him at the, left
you put your left guard, there, center right, guard right,
Tackle roll with, it go with, it live with.
Speaker 3 (02:21:28):
It the beauty is that you can Have Titus. Howard
they'll play four of those. Spots they'll probably do it
at a decent. Level So i'll take.
Speaker 4 (02:21:33):
That like, Again week, one you had to Play Ariante
erthrie out of position because Of Cam, robbins you can
only play left. Tackle he is struggling still to play
left tackle in THE Nfl Cleveland. Shocker it's like he
was always a bad play pick up to begin. With
now you move him back to left tackle at some.
Point Yet Tis howard at right. Tackle but now you
got a question of whatich you do it left? Guard
if you're really good about the right guard, spot you
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have a healthy version In Trent.
Speaker 3 (02:21:55):
Brown hey problem, Solved, LIKE i get.
Speaker 4 (02:21:58):
It BUT i think that for the first Time i'm
probably in his. Tenure i've actually come to Respect Titus
howard for how position with flexibility has allowed The texans
team to be able to play with their decision making
and figure out what is the best course of action for,
Us because let's just be, real, dude we got to KEEP.
Cj stroud up right if we want to win a division.
Speaker 2 (02:22:15):
Title, WELL i mean it's, again it's it's the utility example.
HERE i, MEAN i can win with a utility. PLAYER
i can't win because of a utility. Player So i'll
get him in the spot and find. HIM i will
easily push back on that. One you're winning Because Titus
howard can be a utility. Player because if you can
have that position flexibility and if there is a problem
where you don't have an Ariante, erstrie instead of rolling
Out Blake, fisher that's gonna GET.
Speaker 3 (02:22:36):
Cj stroud.
Speaker 4 (02:22:37):
Killed you can now move handle left tackle and bring
in the juice charderlike In. Tomlinson i'm not saying that
that's the planning you should be hoping for. That i'm
just SAYING i think because of his, utility you feel
really confident that you can.
Speaker 2 (02:22:49):
Win that's good to have, options and it sounds like
they finally have been able to work through some options
through eleven games this season seven, one, three two on
two five seven. Ninety you know we see this name
on the. Board we got to go with A Larry.
Stafford good, Morning.
Speaker 3 (02:23:02):
Larry what's going?
Speaker 4 (02:23:04):
On?
Speaker 5 (02:23:04):
Bulldog? Cold y'all doing all right on This thanksgiving? Eve?
Speaker 3 (02:23:07):
Man just getting the stomach, ready.
Speaker 16 (02:23:09):
Man hey, Man look, here find you a pad of
them stretching pants, man and just let, loose, man because
this is the time the season that everybody just get
full and watch.
Speaker 5 (02:23:19):
Football look here real, quick on The texas offensive. Line you,
know it's like it's LIKE. Nato you gotta have a
group of five that can go into battle and make
sure they take out the. Enemy. Right they finally got it.
RIGHT i didn't Think Trent brown was gonna be able
to be as serviceable as he, is but he has
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that right side locked down him In, Ingram so that's.
Good so now you Put titus over there By, ursery
who he can help guide through some of the challenges
that the youngster is gonna. Face and now you got
five dudes out, there except for one, exception Get Jake
andrews outside of there and Putting Dereck patterson in there
and let him go ahead and be the center BECAUSE
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i think he's a lot more physical and stronger Than. Andrews.
Man and then once you do, that the only memo
that The miko needs to send out is THAT. Cj
straut better start sliding head. First do not slide with
your legs, first, man because your head is the.
Speaker 10 (02:24:21):
Last thing that's.
Speaker 5 (02:24:22):
Up if you go head, first then they gotta hit
your back and you can sustain getting hit in the
back versus getting hit in the.
Speaker 3 (02:24:29):
Head.
Speaker 5 (02:24:29):
Man, LOOK i also wanted to talk about the rockets
tonight should be fun because they Play gold And. STATE
i KNOW kd ain't gonna be, there but The rockets
are a fun team to, watch and you're gonna go
through these ebbs and flows like this and challenges and
it makes for a good. SEASON i hated THAT u
And as lost To tennessee, yesterday But i'll tell you,
This Calvin sampson knows exactly what he's doing because these
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kind of losses teach you how to win In, march
and that's what we're looking. For, Finally, fellas last THING
i need to talk about The States. Giving, look everybody's
going to be eating some very very good, FOOD i,
hope but if your ass can't make macaroni and, cheese
don't bring that nest to my house. Mate you better
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be able to make macaroni and cheese or my family
will curse you. Out there are certain rules to the
game For, thanksgiving and if you are not somebody that
can do what you are supposed to, do you will
get exempt from the. Visit trust me WHEN i tell
you they are rules to this. THING i don't know
how you boys like pumpkin, pie But i'm always those
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Sweet Potato pie And. Bulldog here's the Black Friday news
for you just wake up and have your old lady
put on a leotard or something made on some stretching
pants and then just sit there and watch it get
dressed in our.
Speaker 3 (02:25:44):
HALLS i, Appreciate.
Speaker 2 (02:25:45):
Larry, Yeah, hey, LOOK i mean there's certain non negotiables
when it comes to The thanksgiving, table and that's just.
Speaker 3 (02:25:52):
It, hey what'd you do to make make?
Speaker 6 (02:25:54):
This?
Speaker 2 (02:25:54):
SO i just got out of a box to get,
out get out off for mac and. Cheese, yeah put
in the, effort that's. Fine stir stir the, cream stir
in the. Cheese do it, all do it. Right i'm
so do it, right or don't do it at.
Speaker 3 (02:26:06):
All, no just do. IT i don't. Care i'm. Me
i'll go the story a craft single maga cheese if need.
Speaker 6 (02:26:12):
BE i.
Speaker 3 (02:26:12):
Don't, okay that's not. ANYMORE i don't have to do that.
Gourmet let's go on a.
Speaker 4 (02:26:16):
Budget i'm fine with. That i'm still not. Over i'm
still not over the fact that. That, larry and appreciate
Always larry for calling on, in. Dude IF i start
YOU a picture Of Jake andrews and a picture Of
jake of A Jarrett patterson held them right out next
to each. Other damn't give you the. Numbers you wouldn't
be able to tell them. APART i, Can, no you can't, there, no, no, no.
No on the, field they are the exact.
Speaker 3 (02:26:36):
Same ones like sixty five and the other ones like my.
Speaker 4 (02:26:39):
Height one is six, three one is six, four one
is three hundred and eight, pounds one is three hundred
and nine.
Speaker 3 (02:26:43):
Pounds oh Maybe i'm taller THAN i.
Speaker 4 (02:26:44):
Thought they are literally the exact same. Person they play
the exact same. Way you're not upgrading from either. One
if you had a blank jersey on, them you couldn't
tell me which was.
Speaker 3 (02:26:54):
WHICH i BET i. Could you. Couldn't nobody could do the.
Test And i'll tell. It you, Know i'll.
Speaker 4 (02:26:59):
Pass you know, what, FINE i will make sure THAT
i go ahead and blank out the. Numbers you tell
me who's playing WHERE i got?
Speaker 2 (02:27:05):
You seven one three two one two five seven ninety
is the number to get. In and, uh this is
actually for the former players out, there because a former
player turn broadcast legend has some advice THAT i totally agree.
Speaker 3 (02:27:18):
With we'll share that.
Speaker 2 (02:27:19):
With you as we continue here on The Morning drive
With Dan matthews And Cole thompson right, Here Sports talk seven.
Speaker 7 (02:27:25):
Ninety, hey it's The Sports talk seven ninety morning.
Speaker 2 (02:27:30):
Show that one three, two one two, five seven ninety
is the. Number we're gonna get THREE nfl games. Tomorrow
you get one On Black, friday and then of course
you get The texans And colts On, sunday along with
the rest of THE nfl slate that's not playing On
sunday night Or monday night this? Week what game are
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you most excited to see tomorrow? TOMORROW i mean for
The texans playoff. Chances colts And. Chiefs, YEAH i think
That's colts And. Chiefs cowboys And.
Speaker 3 (02:27:58):
Chiefs that's a.
Speaker 4 (02:27:59):
Right, answered just because OF i really want to see
If dallas is actually gonna make a run for the playoff,
now because then we have to Give jerry some, credit
and Then jerry's gonna get too big of an ego
already bigger than it has to.
Speaker 3 (02:28:08):
Be the things we're doing, here they're they're working.
Speaker 4 (02:28:11):
Cold, well, WELL i guess we can go hey and
fix out With, wait wait made the rock?
Speaker 3 (02:28:15):
Coffood now's? COWBOYS i. CAN'T i told you THAT i was.
Speaker 2 (02:28:20):
The one who who architect who was the architect of
that Trade Santa herschel In.
Speaker 4 (02:28:25):
MINNESOTA i can't stand the fact that this is going
to be another year where he gets to look like
the genius because if he Hired Bryan schett himriny trade
Away mike The, parsons that they make the.
Speaker 3 (02:28:33):
PLAYOFF i think we're gonna fall well short of. THAT
i don't, know, dude look at their. Schedule they win,
tomorrow they're a game about five.
Speaker 4 (02:28:41):
Hundred remember they have that tie against Against Green, bay
so that helps their. Schedule actually when it comes to
wins and losses close of the year with games Against,
Minnesota Los, Angeles, Washington New, York, detroit.
Speaker 2 (02:28:54):
AND i guess The eagles aren't necessarily that you know
FAR i, know BUT i, MEAN i guess it's not
like you can't catch, them so that's a. Possibility but
we do know That Iron eagle AND Jj watt gonna
be on the call of the game On sunday for The,
texans Which texans fans have pointed, Out, well it's good for, them,
yeah because you, Know texans are two to zero WHEN
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Jj watson that. Booth But chris Collins worth, recently talking
about first TIME nfl, broadcasters he has some advice start
off in the, studio don't go directly to the. Booth
he was On The Dan Patrick show On. Tuesday he,
says you've got like five or six different hits during
the course of a. Show you know what you're going
(02:29:36):
to talk going into, it you can research it. Easily
when you do the, game you're starting from scratch every single.
WEEK i gotta agree with that because now we've Seen Tom,
brady who has widely been thought of as after his first,
season which it was a little, rough but this season
he's gotten so much. Better clearly there's been, coaching there's
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been all of those different. Things but it's going to
take a lot to Get Tom brady out of the,
booth the same as it's gonna go For Tony. Romo
then a lot of people his first, season and this guy's.
Amazing he's predicting, plays, he's you, know just just ahead of.
Everything and then after that we started to Know Tony
romo for his corny dad jokes and making his weird
noises whenever he, Says, jim the hate.
Speaker 3 (02:30:18):
Is so forced On Tony, Romo i'm sorry it.
Speaker 2 (02:30:20):
IS i will agree that it is very Like Joe
buck like, LIKE i almost feel like With joe buck
gets you feel obligated to say that you don't Like
Joe buck and he's annoying and he's A nepo baby
and all those different types of, things which at this,
point can we stop doing that with? Him, like you
wouldn't stick around in the industry for over thirty years if, indeed,
oh you just got the job because of your, dad
(02:30:41):
maybe that's the way you got. In but if you stuck,
around your talent is keeping you.
Speaker 4 (02:30:45):
Around, no he got the job because of his, dad
and he's been able to carve out his own career
where he has become A Delta bravo in his own.
Right SO i, mean, AGAIN i don't mind hating On Joe.
BUCK i think HE'S i don't like him else one of.
BASEBALL i think he's great for. BASEBALL i think he's
terrible in THE.
Speaker 2 (02:30:57):
NFL i think he's JUST i, mean, look baseball was
his sports AND i would have liked for him to
have stayed.
Speaker 3 (02:31:03):
There BUT i, MEAN i don't, no begrudge him for
taking the. Check good for.
Speaker 4 (02:31:07):
Him, No i'm not begrudging him for taking the. Check
But i'm saying at the same, time IF i want
to listen to A Joe buck, GAME i want to
listen to him in. BASEBALL i could give a care
less in the world about him in football.
Speaker 2 (02:31:16):
NOW i, mean there are a few that obviously skirt
past the rule that it's not even a, rule it's
just an idea From, collinsworth and Collins worth's one of
those guys for years on inside THE. NFL i think
he did some stuff WITH nbc and then finally found
his way into the booth With tariko and, look love
more hate, him AND i, know you, know here's the,
guy here's a, guy and all the other. Things he
kind of annoys. PEOPLE i think it's his voice more than.
(02:31:38):
Anything BUT i think his point is. Valid it's more than.
Anything get used to doing. It get used to doing the.
Job when you're in a, studio you've got to think
about a lot, more but you only have to speak
about it in short. Spurts whereas you're getting ready for a,
game you've got your. Notes you can kind of overload
yourself with paralysis by analysis and it becomes more forced
(02:31:59):
than it is. Actually just free flowing with, it Like
Troy aikman's free flowing with. It Greg olsen is free
flowing with. It those guys they know how to prepare for,
games they know what to say when they get, in
when they get.
Speaker 3 (02:32:09):
Out there's an art to.
Speaker 4 (02:32:10):
It but the other thing THAT i will point Out
dan is, that like both of them were known as
locker room, dudes and they were very easy to get along,
with and they were very easy to meet with the
media and have good conversations and dialogue back and. Forth
and that probably propelled them to get into a position
where it felt like they were built to go into
the broadcast booth without having to take a chance at
the network.
Speaker 2 (02:32:30):
Studio there's a couple of different examples THAT i think
would go against BECAUSE i don't know necessarily If Drew
brees was ever thought of that. Way BUT i think
the problem With breeze was is just don't you just
kind of get like a sense of like he's never
one hundred percent on the level with.
Speaker 3 (02:32:44):
You, NO i just feel like he's.
Speaker 2 (02:32:45):
Boring, WELL i mean there's, that BUT i mean it's
also too like there does seem like a little hint of, disingenuinous.
Speaker 16 (02:32:50):
You know WHAT i?
Speaker 3 (02:32:51):
Mean from.
Speaker 4 (02:32:51):
HIM i don't feel the disingenuineness with. Him BUT i
feel is like there's just not a good. Dialogue there's
some people that you just love because of the way
that they play the game of.
Speaker 3 (02:32:59):
FOOTBALL i think.
Speaker 4 (02:33:00):
You have a conversation with them, afterwards and they're a wet.
BLANKET i mean quite.
Speaker 3 (02:33:03):
Literally Adam watcher would enjoy having a great conversation with
them if he.
Speaker 4 (02:33:06):
Could but, then Like jason went was. Mean Jason witten
was the one that really drove me. CRAZY i remember
how many people were He they hyped him up so
much that he was just going to be this KNOWLEDGEABLE
iq guy that would bring great numbers and air to the,
booth and his first time that he had an opportunity
to speak, out dude dry as dry as A Lincoln Riley.
(02:33:26):
BRISKET i, mean that's how bad it was for.
Speaker 2 (02:33:28):
Him, YEAH i, mean and that's the thing is that you,
know of, course there are guys that they get a,
reputation you, know they're great with the media all of,
That but, THEN i, mean, look there's one thing about
actually talking about what you know and then being able to,
entertain because that's what this job is really when it
comes down to, it do you, inform do you Entertain
and if you don't meet either of, those well then
(02:33:48):
you probably not gonna have people who really want to
watch or listen.
Speaker 4 (02:33:51):
To you, See i'll push back on THE Jj watt
thing about having the ability to go work in the
in the booth and then afterwards beforehand working on the
on the game day. Set the dude Hosted Saturday Night
live and was. Hysterical the guy was fantastic in a
couple of movies that he, Did like he was in
That Bad moms movie where he played the like the pe.
Coach like he's got a character about him THAT i
think would easily translate because if he's had opportunities to
(02:34:14):
be in front of the stage.
Speaker 2 (02:34:15):
Before AND i, mean AND i think we knew it here,
too that he's he's a magnanimous.
Speaker 3 (02:34:20):
Guy you, know if we want to use the sat words.
Speaker 4 (02:34:22):
Her funny, like he's he's actually got a couple of
one liars that really make you belly.
Speaker 6 (02:34:26):
Laugh he.
Speaker 2 (02:34:27):
Is AND i, mean you, know he goes on with
McAfee every single week and he's he's great with those.
Guys BUT i, mean but, AGAIN i JUST i think
that there probably was a little bit of he had
a runway to work with before he took off to
go into the. Booth and that's WHY i think you're
seeing him be so comfortable in the. Booth and it's
also TOO i think that partners you, know matters so
(02:34:47):
much Because Iron eagle seems like he is one of
the Like Iron eagle quick story about, him a steel
trap on this. GUY i talked to him once ten
years ago and mentioned something AND i saw him a
few years. Later he's, Like, hey your parents still living
in The Hill. COUNTRY i was, like how would you remember?
That how would you possibly remember?
Speaker 3 (02:35:05):
THAT i think he's one of the best broadcasters in
the game right.
Speaker 6 (02:35:08):
NOW i.
Speaker 4 (02:35:08):
Do and you know WHAT i can appreciate about. Him
he is ONE i could listen to on any single.
Call you could hear him in, FOOTBALL i could hear
him in. BASKETBALL i could hear him do baseball. GAMES
i would love to listen.
Speaker 2 (02:35:18):
To iiny it WAS i think it WAS O koge
or somebody the other night did like a little like
side step to shoot a. Three, Yeah AND i Loved
Iron eagle's call where he goes electric slide.
Speaker 3 (02:35:26):
THREE i was, like, yes, dude he is just he
is one of those guys THAT.
Speaker 4 (02:35:31):
I think is the chameleon of being able to work in,
Broadcasting and you are right part of the reason why
the broadcast is so Good WITH Jj, wiss he has
got a great. Partner and, AGAIN i think that the
charisma of him has always been able to kind of
sell in the public. Eye but when you get somebody
to play off, of Like Iron, eagle it's a it's
a good, pairing it's a good. Understanding they have a
(02:35:52):
really good relationship and it's only going to continue to
grow in. Time they may eventually take on over his
the number one crew When Jim Nansen Tony remol called her, CAREER.
Speaker 2 (02:35:58):
I feel Like burkhart is another guy that can be
easy to work. With In, HARLAN i Mean Harlan's i'm
not A harlan. DUDE i Love, HARLAN i.
Speaker 4 (02:36:08):
Am very But Kevin burkhart, GUY i will Say Kevin
burkhart is another one of those chameleons that and he's
different because it's not baseball and. Football what it is
is it being able to host and then do play
by play.
Speaker 2 (02:36:18):
BECAUSE i feel like with play by play guys, especially
there are the ones, where oh they're very serious you
know all you know their, craft which there's nothing wrong with,
that but it's the guys Like eagle who very. Serious
And i'm not saying that none of these guys, are
but like there's there's there's a little bit of a
comfort factor with them too that you're, LIKE i don't
feel like it's. Forced i'm not being talked, At i'm
(02:36:40):
being talked, to And i'm also just really enjoying the.
Speaker 3 (02:36:44):
Game it's.
Speaker 4 (02:36:44):
Good it's it's a good sidecar with the. Game do
you Think Kevin burkhart calls it stuffing or? Tressing he's
he's A New york, guy so he probably calls it.
STUFFING i want to get your opinion on. It as
a matter of, Fact i'll shoot him at. Text i'll be, like,
hey not for, nothing but is it stuffing or is it?
Speaker 3 (02:36:59):
Dressing? Suffing he probably.
Speaker 4 (02:37:01):
Will he's gonna say, stuffing and he's gonna prove my
point that that's the correct way to say.
Speaker 3 (02:37:04):
It, WELL i, SAY i say. Stuffing what AM i
supposed to say?
Speaker 17 (02:37:07):
It?
Speaker 3 (02:37:07):
As, Oh, burkhart we'll work.
Speaker 4 (02:37:10):
ON i do want to get your thoughts on Some
thanksgiving hot takes before we go away for the.
Speaker 3 (02:37:13):
Break this week here there are some.
Speaker 4 (02:37:14):
Things that are very IMPORTANT i think that you are
allowed to have on the, table and there's one thing
that you're not allowed to have.
Speaker 2 (02:37:19):
Whatsoever and an ode from an old friend that we
all love to the holiday Of. Thanksgiving we've got that
for you right here as it is The Morning drive
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Speaker 3 (02:38:47):
Thanksgiving hot, Takes you had some throw them at.
Speaker 4 (02:38:49):
Me what do you Got if you have cranberry sauce
on your table at, all canned or, homemade it is a.
Joke nobody likes cranberry. Sauce nobody thinks it's, good nobody
wants it. Around you just have to have it because
it's part of the delicacy Of. Thanksgiving, okay that's that's
the hot. Take, No i'm just saying right, now that's
one WHERE i will throw it at your face if you, say,
here do you want some cranberry?
Speaker 3 (02:39:09):
Sauce just don't just pass it. By, no, no.
Speaker 1 (02:39:12):
No, no no.
Speaker 4 (02:39:12):
No we have to stop acting like as a society
it's okay for us to think the cranberry sauce is.
Good it's never used anything. ELSE i gonna have a
slice of pumpkin pie At. CHRISTMAS i canna have a
slice of pumpkin pie At New.
Speaker 3 (02:39:23):
Year's you know. Where i'm never gonna have cranberry sauce
ever outside of one day of the.
Speaker 2 (02:39:27):
Year, Okay but like the same can be said about, Turkey,
like you, know aside from eating it on a sandwich when,
out when the hell else are you gonna eat?
Speaker 3 (02:39:33):
TURKEY i have turkey almost once a.
Speaker 2 (02:39:35):
WEEK i, mean, OKAY i MEAN i GUESS i guess
you're you, know out of the ordinary in that, regard
Because i've never heard of somebody being, like you, know
it would be really.
Speaker 3 (02:39:43):
Good right, now some turkey.
Speaker 4 (02:39:44):
Turkey with a good turkey burgers are. Fantastic turkey uses
it as a supplement instead of beaver is. Fantastic turkey
is a great way to if you want to help loose,
Weight i'm telling you right, now and that's a big
reason WHY i use it so.
Speaker 3 (02:39:54):
Much i'm not, Look i'm a big ground turkey. GUY
i love me some ground. Turkey Did, No i'm.
Speaker 2 (02:40:00):
With you on, that But i'm just saying like the
actual like like slices of, turkey and like you, know
the way that you eat it At, thanksgiving you're not
eating at any other.
Speaker 3 (02:40:08):
Time there's no such thing as candy. Dams they're candy sweet.
Speaker 4 (02:40:10):
Potatoes, Okay i'm telling, You, okay how many times have
you seen the orange?
Speaker 3 (02:40:16):
Thing they're, like, oh that's candy. Dams so what yams?
Speaker 17 (02:40:18):
Are?
Speaker 3 (02:40:18):
White?
Speaker 2 (02:40:18):
DUDE i never knew that there was necessarily like a
difference between the. TWO i just thought that sweet potatoes.
Speaker 3 (02:40:24):
Or, yams stuffing is the name of, it not dressing
it Overh, Okay, yeah you lose that. One, NO i
don't lose that. ONE i the audience. Agrees the audience agreed.
Speaker 4 (02:40:33):
Seven Ninety do you call it dressing or?
Speaker 3 (02:40:36):
Stuffing Because i'm telling you right now most of you
are probably calling it. Stuffing you have a hot.
Speaker 2 (02:40:40):
Take no hot. Take it's just you, know we're we're
a big fans Of Mike. Leach sure well we. Not
and of course you, know we Lost Mike leach a
couple of years, ago a huge loss, too because he
used to give us just jewels like this one where
After Mississippi state had played AGAINST i Believe East Tennessee.
STATE a couple of years, Ago Tara, talmadge then with
THE Sec, network caught up with, them and of, course
(02:41:01):
the what's on The thanksgiving plate conversation came up With Mike,
leach and The pirate could only answer it the way he.
Speaker 22 (02:41:08):
Could, OH i always make the, gravy AND i do
make great. Gravy i'm not a big cook guy and haven't,
been But i've made the gravy for. Decades but, YEAH
i always uh let's, SEE i always get uh white,
(02:41:29):
meat a little, stuffing not too, much lots of mashed,
potatoes gravy over. Everything uh hopefully they have greens they generally,
don't and then uh corner green beans never sweet potatoes.
Speaker 14 (02:41:46):
Better than any of this uh.
Speaker 3 (02:41:49):
Pumpkin apple.
Speaker 16 (02:41:50):
Stuff you.
Speaker 3 (02:41:51):
Know are you a cranberry sauce.
Speaker 22 (02:41:53):
Fan, yeah just a quick little droplet of. It i'm
not gonna get care away with.
Speaker 3 (02:42:00):
That, Either, Duch thank you so much for your. Time
congratulations on the, way all, right you he's the.
Speaker 2 (02:42:06):
Best Well terror got to win, too he was the. Best,
NO i, mean, look some people like the sweet and the.
Savory it's all. GOOD i don't begrudge you. Like look
it's on your. PLATE i don't have to eat.
Speaker 3 (02:42:17):
IT i have to look at. It, Okay, well then
a virtue your? Eyes what else you want me to tell?
Speaker 4 (02:42:22):
You go sit in the corner and eat it like
a like a like somebody in a, cave because that's
the only way That i'm going to accept.
Speaker 3 (02:42:28):
It did, Again and we all have our.
Speaker 4 (02:42:30):
Faults Mike leach was near, perfect but he said he
enjoys cranberry.
Speaker 3 (02:42:33):
Sauce there we. Go that's the fault.
Speaker 2 (02:42:34):
Now the only imperfection in my eyes was what he
said about stuffing and.
Speaker 3 (02:42:38):
Dressing he thought it? Stuffing did he?
Speaker 2 (02:42:40):
Did he did, so so once again he's one of the.
Speaker 3 (02:42:45):
Union the notion, is.
Speaker 4 (02:42:50):
It's dressing because of it is what you put on
top of a. Salad it's stuffing because of what you
take inside of.
Speaker 3 (02:42:54):
Turkey i'll give a very Happy thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (02:42:57):
Down same to, you, buddy and same to, You nicholas Poll.
On ain't all of you out there who make the
morning drive With dan And cole what it? Is, everybody
have a great and happy and Safe thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (02:43:08):
Weekend and we will talk to you On.
Speaker 2 (02:43:11):
Monday as of, Course The Matt Thomas show With ross
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Speaker 3 (02:43:19):
Too it's. RENOWNED i heard it's.
Speaker 2 (02:43:21):
Fantastic, anyway we'll be eating a lot and talk to
you all On, monday right here on the Morning drive
With dan And.
Speaker 3 (02:43:27):
Cole the sun and the, wind then the, rain
Speaker 1 (02:43:33):
The color
This is the morning drive with Dad and Cole, as.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Well as the rockets tonight with one on the floor,
a little bit of a late night. So I don't
know about you, and you know, it's one of those
you know, just this is where we can get started,
you know, just momentarily, like the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. I
always enjoy the Wednesday before Thanksgiving because that's like the
family comes to town.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Some of them you avoid some of them.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You've probably like to be a couple of pops deep
before you even talk to them, you know.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
So there's a little bit of that.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
So you also had the conspiracy theory uncle or the
person that's gonna bring a politics of the day tea.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
There's none of that.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It's just more of with the side of the family
that usually we spend Thanksgiving with. I mean, look, I
think most people can agree. And I'm pretty self effacing.
I can say it. I've got my goofiness, I've got
my tendencies. I'm fully aware of it. But they like
it's to another level where like I'm like, Mom, like
I'm going to leave if this continues.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
That's just main It's a holiday season, dude. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I don't care. It's it's it's football is on. I
don't want to play s categories. I don't want to
play boggle. I don't want to play any of these
other games. Like they want to play games they want
to do like karaoke and things like that. And I'm like,
first of all, karaoke when you're a grown up needs
to probably be a couple of drinks deep.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Oh that's so, that's the rule. I thought that was
the requirement. I would think so too.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Yeah, you show on up, you're twenty one. You see
the idea. They give you three shots and then you're
a lot of singer songs. But that's the thing. It's like,
you know, they want to start like one year. One
of my cousins, let's do a trivia content.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I'm like, no, no, no, no, you do that.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
That's very fair to no, no, no, do it the
way that I do it. Because I have Thanksgiving today,
so my family is doing Thanksgiving at four o'clock this afternoon.
Because on a family that's going to be around tomorrow,
so all day tomorrow I just can sit back and
watch football. So I'm going to enjoy doing the trivia.
I'm going to enjoy having fun with the family. I'm
gonna play categories. I'm gonna call you in the middle
(02:01):
of this categories and asking for a question and an answer,
and then you're going to help.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I want to win, ladies, gentlemen. I don't think if
you know this about me. I'm here to win every
single time, in every single competition. I want to be
the best, and that includes beating the crap out of
my family in categories.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Well, it's like there was an old buddy of mine
that at bar trivia, which you know how they tell you,
you know, no cheating, no cell phones. So then I
came to find out that when he kept texting me,
I go text me one more time.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I'm texting the guy who runs it guy, and then
he did so.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Then I texted the guy who runs it and I said, hey,
table whatever they're they're cheating, don't be that guy.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
No, because I was like, leave me alone, dude, leave
me alone. Then put your phone on mute. No, it's fine,
I need to have my phone on me, but like,
it's not fine if you bet him on. Do not
disturb though. If you do that, it kills two birds
with one stone.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Now eventually it did get to permanently do not disturb
as and blocked.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
So anyway, that's what you're talking about. The rockets. How
was that?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Oh well, I mean there's no rockets last, but there
is some tonight. So now you've got them. But you
got the Texans though, to get ready for as they're
gonna get back out on the practice field today to
get ready for the Colts. And this is something that
I think is a evergreen topic throughout the show today.
I was listening yesterday and Derek Schultz from Locked on
(03:18):
Colts was on with the Matt Thomas Show. He said
something and I was just like, you know what, He's
not wrong, and that is the pressure is off the
Texans for this game if you really think about it,
because this is the Colts team that's lost two of
their last three. They have not looked the same offensively.
Danny Dimes has not looked the same offensively, and this
(03:39):
is a charging Texans team.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I will push back and say there is not a
lot of pressure on the Texans as a team to deliver.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
There is a lot of pressure on CJ.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Stroud to come on out swinging and prove why he
is the right, guys, QB won that I will push
back on because Davis Mills. I'll stand on this. There's
a ceiling with him. You are probably gonna win five
six games. That's all you can ask for. That's fine
as a backup quarterback. But you did win you three games.
You're on a three game win streak with Davis Mills
as you're starting quarterback.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
And trust me, you and I both know it's because
of your defense.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
It's been only it's been one of the best, if
not the best defense in the NFL since twenty thirteen.
They're on a warpath to be dubbed alongside Legion of
Boom be dubbed alongside nineteen eighty five Bears.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
They're gonna show on UP. I think the wide.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Receivers are gonna show on UP. I think of the
play calling that was very much decibullet in the first half.
Moving on UP, I make up words. It's fine, say
I was just like I, I I don't know. We
know we also know i'ld just move with it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Miss keeping go with it.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
C J.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Stroud is the big storyline here because CJ. Stroud, coming
off of concussion protocol now wanting to keep momentum moving
in the right direction. These are your two most important
games left on the schedule in my opinion, because if
you beat Indianapolis at least it gives you a little
bit of ground in the AFC South Division standings. And
if you beat Kansas City, well, then you're in the
wildcard standings. Because if you beat Kansas City at the
(05:03):
end of the day both of you were ten and seven,
that headhead's gonna play a big factor.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Well, and you know, one of the other points that
Schultz brought up is that with Indianapolis, there are no
more easily egleable or birdiea Bowl holes for them for
the rest of the way on their schedule. He was
talking about, you got Texans twice, You've got Jacksonville twice.
I forget a couple of other teams he had in there,
but he was like, there's no more Dolphins, there's no
(05:27):
more Raiders, there's no more This is the hard part.
This is this is this part of the schedule for
the Colts where they're looking at this game and they're like,
we're at home.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
This is a game that we've.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Got to have Seahawks and forty nine ers or the
other two, one at home, one on the road.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Okay, I mean in Seattle, I believe is on the road,
and Seattle has been incredibly good at home. I mean
that's been one of the toughest places to play in
the NFL. So I mean this is just this is
where you know it comes into focus for the Texans
where I mean keep the foot on the pedal, man,
because I mean, you go in there, you get to
win your seven and five and I mean, and I
(06:02):
believe at that point Indy would be eight and four,
so you're only a game behind them, and I mean
you could even get into the half scenarios here that
you've got that win. So it's almost like in baseball
getting to win on an off day when the other
team is off that day, so you're able to gain
a half a game right there. So I mean, in essence,
(06:23):
you would be looking at this as a game and
a half swing.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
At this point.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
You still need to be able to watch as Jacksonville
finds a way to fumble the bag, because that they
would have a half game lead over you, which is
where we are in the division standings. But from the
standpoint of the Texans, yeah, there's not a lot of
pressure on you. I still want see you execute. I
still want see you deliver, because if I want to
know that when you're going toward the playoff, this is
a team that you could have a little bit of
faith in that they're gonna deliver, because again, you have
(06:48):
the pieces defensively, you have the pieces offensively. Do you
have the proper play calling? Have you fixed some things
on the offensive line?
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Dude?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I mean, remember the offensive line was great last week.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
One pressure, one tackle for loss, zero ro sacks allowed,
nearly everybody grated with the passing eligible pass blocking grade
by PFF, like it was all great. I want to
see this continue against a better defense that I think
is going to be mentally prepared to take you on,
a better offense that has probably the best running back
in the NFL this season, and a quarterback that still
(07:19):
he was very hot to begin the year. Maybe he
was in a two game lump. Now we're going back
seeing and be the reason why Indianapolis has sit at.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Eight and four.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And I mean it would also just for you know,
the Texans, being able to get two really good players
back this week would be huge and we'll find that
out today as both CJ. Shroud and Jalen Petrie. You
can have a lot of people looking to see where
number seven and number five are on the field, and
that did Petrie.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
He did get some work last week.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Day he was limited like cjlst okay, So I mean,
but CJ was limited on the Tuesday, Belove, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
And CJ was limited on the Tuesday. You had Jalen
come back on the Monday and the Tuesday, So technically
Jalen could clear concussion protocol before he even takes the
field today. So CJ is the one that you got
away for after the day of seeing Clayton got So.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I mean, if we're probably taking a guest that today,
it would be Jalen Petrie's full participant. He's out there,
he's good to go, I would say, so CJ will
be the limited one. But I'm wondering if like limited,
they're like, you know, hey, even though you're not taking
the full eleven on eleven reps here and scout, you know,
he's gonna he's gonna be standing by right there, listening
(08:26):
to what the calls are, all that kind of stuff,
and you know, kind of taking it through mentally, and
then tomorrow probably would have to guess that he's out.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
There run probably run with the first team in any
drill that isn't EV eleven.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
That would be my theory today.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
And then afterwards he's sitting with Nikaylee Girod and have
a conversation about what the game plan is see.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And that's the thing too, is I believe that Matt
covered this too, you know, just just getting back which,
by the way, I mean it was a great conversation
Derek Schultz again, who covers the Colts for locked on
Colts up there in Indianapolis.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
And I mean, they're they're preparing for c. J. Stroud.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
They're not.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
They're not preparing for Davis Mills. There's no need to
prepare for Davis Mills. Why why not? I mean everyone
in the city apparently wants to see ten run out there.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I think that you're you're confusing a handful of callers
and a couple of tweeters as people who say, oh no, no, no, right,
run it back, keep Davis Mills out there.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Well, you know, I don't.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I don't think that there are most Texans fans who
would say, you know what, I feel so much better
about this team making a run through the rest of
the season and into the playoffs with Davis Mills over
c J.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Strout.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
You know what they say, when you're on a heater, man,
you got to play the hot hand.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
You're not on a heater though, Like you've won a
few hands at the table. You broke even basically at
the table.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Is what you did? You did You didn't lose your
bank roll, all right, That's that's that's what it was
with Davis Mills. I made the comparison last week and
I mentioned it friends over at Channel thirteen they had
their Davis Mills apology slips and I commented because Charlie
Edsity was the one who posted.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
It, and I just said, hey, look, he did fine,
all right.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Backup quarterbacks are like the kid who stays home when
mom and dad goes out of town. Don't get arrested,
don't burn the house down. And he didn't do either
of those things. He did his job. It's fine.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Led a team back in a sixteen point comeback against
Jacksonville to guarantee a winning the division, thirty six yards
in the second half against the Buffalo Bills, and don't
break Davis Mill's experiment.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Ladies and gentlemen, and don't break the vase.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
If you break the vase, break break the one that's
not as valuable as the one up front.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I mean the vase.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Well do you say vass See I've said, I've said
vase for my entire life, but then I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I don't know, Like, why do you like.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Turn at a certain age and it thought that it
was a lower vas? Yeah, I mean it's very intellect man.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
It's vase. I guess I don't know. I mean maybe
so maybe maybe it is just a hey, you know,
let's just go ahead and say it. And I feel
like I'm in a safe territory if I say that.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Seven two seven ninety jam packs show today for all
of us here. Not only will we have Colts beat
writer Mike Chappell from Fox fifty nine joining us to
give us his preview, Aaron Wilson moving him on up
to the nine o'clock hour, A little football talk too, dude.
I mean, let's let's just be real. Last night we
saw where Texas came in in the college football playoff rankings.
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It's very clear chaos is going to have to ensue
for them to win to get on into the postseason.
It starts by beating Texas A and M on Friday
night where you can listen right here Sports TX seven ninety.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, and Alex Miller from the Brian college station Eagle.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
He's going to join us.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Coming up just a little over an hour is when
we're gonna talk with Alex and then Shahan. You're gonna
have to say it's like Jean from CBS. Sure, Shahanjuraja. Okay, Okay,
So that's that's that's easy to remember.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
All right, very very easy to remember when you've had
enough time knowing how to pronounce it.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Okay, Well, there you go. So Shahanjuraja gonna join us.
We'll get into a little bit of college football because yeah,
I mean those those rankings last night were very telling,
especially about one program in particular.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Dude, are they really gonna are they really going to
mess up all miss? Are they really going to keep
them out? Dude?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I mean, look, I think I think there's stuff to
talk about there, because we've seen precedent before with old
Florida State. Hey, they were undefeated, they won the ACC
Why aren't they in They don't have their quarterback, they're
not the same team. Lane takes a job on Monday,
you look at Ole Miss and you say, you're not
the same team, you don't have your head coach.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
But in a twelve team playoff, you're not leaving them out.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
If they're eleven to one, if they lose on Friday,
we can have that conversation.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I totally agree with you.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
But if you're eleven to one, are you really going
to penalize the team because their coach said I want
to go to Baton Rouge.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I mean, look, it's one of those that it's not
like that the College Football Playoff Committee really has a
ton to answer about. It's because the NCAA tournament, it's
kind of is cut and dry as much as cut
and dry is because it's also it's sixty eight teams.
So if you've got a good enough resume and you've
got a good enough profile, you're getting in, by the way,
And I know that some people might say a profile
it that shouldn't matter.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
No, it matters. You need people in the seats.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
I do have a theory that while Texas maybe the
ultimate wild card in all this college football playoff conversation,
there's another team that we have to bring on up
all at take is one win and Dan, they very.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Much have to be concerned for the playoff. There we go.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
All right, that's a tease right there, an extended one,
if even. But we will be a lot of Texans
here today too, seven one three two one two five
seven ninety, in addition to the bevy of guests we've
got for you. And we'll continue the Texans conversation next
because with CJ. One massive question that must be answered
when it comes to the Texans quarterback. We will discuss
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that here as we're just getting going on a Friday,
on a Wednesday, here on the Morning Drive with Dan
and Cole Sports Talk seven ninety Dan.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
Matthews, Cole Thompson. This is the Morning Drive with Dan
and Cole.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
College football playoff rankings top four staying the same, A
and M in at number three, Texas up to number sixteen,
Texas Tech holding strong at number five seven one three
two one two five seven ninety is the number to
get in on the phone line, CJ.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Stret.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
CJ.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Stroud is likely to be back on Sunday, and I
would say that the biggest question is rust How rusty
could cjb in this one? And do you even have
time for us, so two questions right there for the
price of one Cole Thompson before.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
We move on to that question, our question of the
day right here on the morning Very Good five seven ninety.
Want to hear your thoughts or comment at Sports TX
seven ninety. On social media, we all know about movie classics.
Dan's big movie guy. I peruse around it. We know
the holidays are around the corner. There really isn't one
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for Thanksgiving except potentially this. Do you consider planes, trains
and automobiles a Thanksgiving classics seven one three two one
two five seven ninety Let me know your thoughts. I
personally don't, because I'll tell you why. When I look
at a movie, I need to watch it regularly on
the holiday season. I don't watch plane, trains, at automobiles
regularly on the holiday season. I'll watch it on a
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random d in July.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Well, I mean, Christmas is definitely the time for the movies,
you know, just because there was a whole cottage industry
there and still is with the Hallmark Channel. But Thanksgiving
Thanksgiving for a lot of people, is the forgotten holiday.
It's kind of the bridge to get to Christmas, which
I'm like, I think asould get older, at least I
look more forward to Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
That idea Christmas it's the redheaded step child of the
holiday season. It really is. Nobody talks about it when
you're young. If people gets old in a line behind
Valentine's Day, which sucks.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
It's in line behind Saint Patrick's Day, It's in line
behind Fourth of July. It's in line behind Memorial Day
to some people. And again I'm not saying that you
can't pick your holidays, but let's be real. If you
want to have good food, you get it on Thanksgiving.
Everywhere else it's like, okay, cool, I'm going to a barbecue.
I don't know what they're serving. I don't know if
the beans are gonna be good on I don't know
if they're gonna have good potato salad.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I don't know what beer they're having. I know I'm
getting good.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Food on Thanksgiving seven one, two, five seven ninety John Candy,
Steve Martin, are they a part of your holiday repertoire?
On Thursday afternoon? Back to CJ's drop question, Yeah, so
with him rust and can you afford rust right now?
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
You can afford rust because your defense is so freaking awesome.
I think that's kind of the point, is that you
know that you have such a good front seven that
is gonna pressure a quarterback against a team right now
that has given up the most sacks in a month
with Indianapolis on top of that, it's a very clear indication, guys,
we slow down twenty eight. We're gonna win this football
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game because we're gonna force Daniel Jones to bs through
the year. We're getting healthy at the defensive back position,
so that means that Tyler Warren could be a non factor.
All we gotta do is to get in range for
Kayami Fairbairn. Guys, hate me the very bad news. A
fifteen to nothing win is still a win, and that
might be what you're gonna have to do against an
Indianapolis squad.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
If CJ.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Stroud is a little bit rusty, you need to have
the rust knocked off before you go travel to Arrowhead
and face off against the Against the Chiefs, you're allowed
one mulligan. So either the mulligan comes this week to
where CJ ends up having a really rocky performance but
you win, or you end up having a rocky performance
a gain lose but you can't lose both games, and
CJS dropped me in the reason why well.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
And that's I mean, I think that the number one
thing that's of all of the inaccuracy and just you know,
general ineffectiveness out of CJ. At times we've seen interceptions,
we haven't seen a ton of them. Like I'm trying
to remember if he's ever had a multiple interception game.
I think he's had one maybe that I could remember.
(17:24):
But it's even too that his interceptions don't seem like
they are geez man, where were you going with that?
A lot of them are tip balls, you know, a
pass a little bit behind someone and a defensive back
just happened to be there. Like, there's none of them
that I look at that I'm just like, I have
no idea what the hell you were just trying to
do right there?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
He's had five five multiple interception games interception games. The
only one that I truly remembered where it felt like
he was forcing the ball was the match up against
Detroit last year, especially in the second half. Came out swinging,
did not have a good opening drive, bad pick, and
then they try to target tank down the end zone.
Very underthrown ball to Carlton Davis can not forget about
that one.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Yeah, I mean, I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
The egregiousness of some of the air receptions are bad,
but sometimes just right place, right time for the defensive back.
This may be one of those games where you're trying
to force something downfield. Because remember, here's the other thing
that we got to talk about. When you look at
what happened with Davis Mills when he was starting, we
got to see more of Nico Collins get force fed
the ball and it was a lot of success. I mean,
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teams were not able to go ahead and beat up
on them because of just how wal Twell was playing
in one on one coverage. Well with CJ out there,
he tried to spread it around a lot. And I'm
not saying that that's not a good game plan because
of I think Jalen Nole needs to be playing more.
I think Jayden and Higgins is starting to come on
strong and show you why he's the quality number two.
You know that Dalton Scholf's gonna pick up a first down,
You know that what he marks is a good pass
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catching back. But in my opinion, your offense runs through
what Nico Collins is able to provide. So if you're
trying to get that arrhythm, maybe CJ's going to force
the throw their sauce gardner underthrown past. There we go
the other way.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Well, and I think there's even a third question to
ask here when it comes to CJS. You know, just willingness,
I mean, and because you take the hit that you
do in that game. I kind of feel like, in
going back to that Monday night against Seattle, I felt
like there was a little bit of a corner turn
for CJ where he finally just said, you know what,
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my line's not that great. I can at least internalize
that and not say that out loud. But I know that,
and everybody else knows that, and you can see that
I believe that on the field. I just wonder, now
with the concussion, if it's one of those of man,
another hit now and I could be out. So does
he play a little bit more timid in this one?
Speaker 4 (19:42):
But I'm gonna push back just because of the thing
right now. We saw an offensive line not give up
a single sack a week ago, and that happened with
moving Titus Howard on over to left guard and you
heard yesterday Trent Brown. Trent Brown status really is good
to determine how well this offensive blank could play. That's
gonna be your starting line going into Lucas Oil Stadium
on Sunday. So if this is the same version we see,
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she's just gonna have time to throw. She's just gonna
have time to evaluate what is the overall pocket presence.
He's gonna have time to build a repertoire with the receivers.
He's gonna have time to be able to push the
ball down field. At this point, that's gonna be on
him because if he doesn't, if he's trying to make
make too much happen when it's very clearly you got
to be able to just get the ball out in
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a timely manner, that's really on you at this point.
That's not really on the offensive line, because the offensive
line was a turnstile on an issue well before. It's
not anymore like it does feel like at this point
we now know where the Texans are when it comes
to the front five.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Well, and you know, I think the other part of
it too is you know the team that you're going
up against. This isn't Indianapolis Colts. Team that is okay
at rushing the passer, they're not great. Lead to Law too,
is you know a guy that's been really good for them.
I mean as a team, they got thirty three of them,
and the Texans are amongst the Actually the Texans actually
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just thirty three themselves, so I mean both pretty much
the same. I just think that the difference in this
one is that the Texans obviously have Daniel Hunter and
Willie Anderson Junior, whereas lay to Law two is basically
the pass rush for the Indianapolis Colts, but.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
They do have other guys that can get after you.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Well, they're gonna have the Forrest buck Der in this
game is a probably big time deal. I don't think
he's playing, So there we go another thing that could
easily help out when it comes to winning in the
pass rush rates. So yeah, I mean it's a lot too.
You got some good linebacker playing. I think you have
a decent secondary overall, so not the worst thing possible,
but still, this is a Texans scene that on paper
is really at the right time, and defensively they're gonna
be able to build themselves out of trouble.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
A concern with the Texans heading into this game that
kind of builds off what we talked about in the
first segment. We'll discuss that right here as we continue
on the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole. Right here
on a Wednesday before the Thanksgiving Sports Talk seven to.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
Ninety, we're back the Sports Talk seven ninety Mornings show.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
They'll have a name or two that's already unblocks down.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
There you go. So you have that, I'm sure probably
hire them on.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
And be fair, their other option.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
That could be existing is already in the playoff coaching
as a coordinator somewhere, So they couldn't even hire him
to begin with. What's the point of even pulling the
plug when there's no reason to right now?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
And it looks like Tulane is probably going to be
the team that is the group of five that makes
it into the College Football Playoff, which if you're U
of H fan, you look at that.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Program and you're like.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Hey, who helped get that thing going?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Who helped build that thing? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Our guy we Fritz. So there you go. Something else
look forward to. We'll get into some college football. Like
I said here, in about an hour, Alex Miller going
to join us and hop on with us. So real
quick here before we get to Joe in the gallery.
The concern for me with the Texans is, I know
we talked about that. You know, this feels like a
must win for the Colts on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
The concern for me with the Texans is, I mean,
it's not about them listening to us talk about this
or anybody else say this, but that The concern that
I have is complacency has been an issue with this
team at times when they lose to Seattle earlier this year,
and you got Titus Howard after the game saying, yeah,
there's probably some complacency on offense, and me, probably you
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most people who've spoken into live microphones on this station,
we're probably like, you know, head exploding emoji, how can
that even be?
Speaker 3 (23:21):
You have nothing to be complacent about.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Well, now they have stuff to be complacent about, because
this is a team that's playing their best football right now,
and this is a team that is finding a way
to win one score games early on in the season,
and even last year they were losing one score games.
So you almost wonder if like there was a little
bit of a feeling in that locker room of hey,
we know how to do this now, so we're a
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little callous to these situations.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
We can handle this.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
I just I worry a little bit about some of
the edge being taken off of this team.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Is that a valid concern. It's a valid concern.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
I think what the more concern would be is that
this is who we are as an offense defense, You're
gonna have to win.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Us a championship. I think that's more so the concern
at this point.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
So like perfect example, Oklahoma right now in college football
is so well predicted to be a title contender because
how good their defense is. Their offense is what it
is at this point that will keep them from winning
a national title. The Texans have the exact same defense.
Elite in the pass rush, they're great in coverage, they're
not missing assignments in the open field, they're forcing turnovers,
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they're winning at the line of scrimmage, they're forcing teams
to have to go to their secondary punch. They're doing
all the right things. We're still giving up twenty points.
Can you get twenty one? No, we can only get seventeen.
At some point the dam breaks Dan, I mean quite literally.
That's just the nature of life in general. Everyone has
their breaking point for the Texans. It could come against
Jonathan Taylor, who rushes for two hundred and seventeen yards,
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and they score twenty eight. Houston, we need to score
twenty nine. We got twenty four. Okay, Okay, well that's
not good enough for us. What happens when we face
off against Kansas City in two weeks we got eighteen,
we can only score fourteen. I mean, like, like that's
where we're at. So like for me, the complacency Euro,
I think you're onto something. But I don't think that
the defense is gonna be an issue in this game.
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I don't think they get to worry about anything going
on when it comes to the play designs, you know,
for the front seven. I think Will Anderson's gonna have
another three sack game. I think Daniel Hunter is gonna
kick the crap out of Daniel Jones. I think that
they're going to limit Jonathan Taylor. I think they're gonna
do all the right things. It doesn't matter because if
we've seen this happen before. Defensively, you put on a
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hell of a performance against Tampa Buccaneers. What happened fourth
down call, couldn't get a stop on Baker Mayfield ran
down the field or shot white as time nearly expired.
You're in the end zone. Five weeks later, Devor Broncos
third down stop. All you have to do is bring
down bon Nicks twenty six yards scamper. He sets up
a game winning field goal for world.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Let's you lose.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
It could just be as simple as that your offense
does not have enough juice, and even as good as
your defense is, they're gonna give up a touchdown every
once in a while.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Well that might be enough to go ahead and win
this football game for them.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Well, and I think, you know, you bring up a
valid point about the offense because you're loving games in
I mean, I don't think that there's going to be
any November December surprises with this deep with this offense
that you're just like, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Oh hey, where's that been? Oh hey, where's that been?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I think you might be you know, you might see
flashes here and there of like a really nice play,
and we have we have seen some plays. You're like,
Nick Kayley, you're working in your bag right now. Man, Okay,
I like it.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
I'll tell you what the surprise would be. It's like
going up against Arizona and dropping forty. It's like, oh,
holy crap, this offense is able to score four touchdowns
of the first half. And then you look at the
metrics of first half defensive numbers of how bad Arizona
is in the secondary at times. Oh, okay, that's why
they were able to score forty. It's like, remember when
they played against the Baltimore Ravens and they dropped, you know,
thirty five points in the first half, and everyone's like,
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this is the version of the offense we're waiting to see. Okay, Well,
they didn't have ro Quand Smith, they didn't have nom Mattabik,
they didn't have Kyle Hamilton and all pro safety. They
were down two starting quarterbacks, they were down to starting
defensive tackle. But yeah, I mean you scored thirty five,
Like I mean, I mean, good for you, guys. It
was a really good move. But you didn't face off
against the Baltimore Ravens. She faced off against their JV squad.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I look, it's just like in golf, we make the
comparison all the time. Those holes that you can post
low numbers, post those low numbers. Brother, I don't care
if it is a straightaway and the fair way is
wide open. And if you make anything less than a
than a birdie here on this hole, then you completely
messed it up.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
You completely flubbed it.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I mean that's those are those situations that you got
a chance to post up some points, post up some points, Dude.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
I would love nothing more than to see them beat
the brakes off of the Las Vegas Raiders. Like I
mean again, that's like one of those games where you
just talked about. Hey, it's one of the worst secondaries
in the NFL. They struggle against the run. Their quarterback
is throwing an interception every other drive. Dude, you should
be able to score thirty eight against them. But my
opinion of your offense isn't changing. It's more so showing
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this is how dysfunctional that organization is.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Let's give you a shot to jump in on the show.
That one three ninety is the way to do that.
Joe gets us going this morning.
Speaker 8 (28:04):
Good morning, Joe, good morning, Good morning, our friends. You
know I'm a I'm a big Texan fan, uh and
I was just thinking the whole picture. Sure, I'm sure
I would love to win the division even though it's
a it's a it's it would be rough, but it's
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still within within it was in a view of winning
and if we play out of our minds. But we
also need to to keep in mind the walk card
and the walk card. We need to we need to hope.
We need to wish that all these seven four and
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six part teams in the americanly in the American Conference loose, uh,
so to get to get be able to get in there.
And we need to start even though a lot of
us do not are not Cowboy fans, we need that.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
We need to.
Speaker 9 (29:04):
We need to hope that the Cowboys beat Kansas City
tomorrow big time and uh because that's one team, that's
one team that we're going to be uh against. Uh
and then we play Kansas City again next week. So
uh that's a team that's sixty five and we need
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all like I said, we need all the sixty five
teams to start losing, all the seven four teams like
like Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, uh yeah, so.
Speaker 9 (29:35):
Uh we need to.
Speaker 10 (29:37):
We need to really instead of we sure we want
to win, we want to win the division, but we
need to worry a lot about about just being a
walk card. So uh, I concentrate on the walk card
and and we win the division. So be here. That's
all I have to say.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
I appreciate you, a happy thanks. I'm a push back.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
No, that's not it at all, Like it isn't you
need to focus on winning the division. You're a two
time division champion, you have the number one defense in
the NFL, you currently have a team that is winning
in the plus turnover margin in every capacity, and you
supposedly have a Pro Bowl quarterback. I'm sorry, you should
not be settling for winning a wildcard spot.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Well, see, it's exactly what mental coaches tell you when
you want to manifest positive results in your life is
shoot for very unattainable goals and meet somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Like that is such loser mentality.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
No, but I think that his thought is on this
is that you know, the wildcard might be more attainable,
which I mean I get, But it's also though, I mean,
you've just got so many other variables in some cases
that maybe you've already kind of lost control of. I mean,
you split against Jacksonville, that's out of your control. I mean, yeah,
you want to be able to win next week against
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Kansas City, but you can't really control what happens with
Kansas City going forward, but you can control at least
twice what happens in the division, and then you work
your way down from there.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
See this is why I was really upset the Kansas
City one on Saturday, I mean one on Sunday, because
if Kansas City lost and then they lose again to
Dallas this weekend, which again very possible with how well
the Cowboys defense is kind of turned around, you go
into arrowheady, you basically can knock them out of the
playoff conversation altogether guarantee you have the head to head
win over them for a wildcard spot.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
And it comes down to it.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
But if you beat Indianapolis back to back games, and
if somehow, some way Jacksonville does it, guess what happens,
You're going to win the AFC South. So it's like,
if Indianapolis wins that game, you kind of have an
opportunity to kill three birds with one stone and do
it in a span of two weeks. Now it feels
like now you have to win both just to guarantee
that you're in the wildcard conversation.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
All right, Now, let's take a look at the shield
and we'll do that close up six clock Gower as
there was an expensive punch. Bill's getting help from a
familiar face in Burrow wants to go. We'll discuss all
of that right here as you take a look at
the pro football right here on the Morning Drive with
Dan and Cole Sports Talk seven.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
Ninety A shit, Dan and Cole as the Morning Drive cruise.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
Is on.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Someone three two on two five seven ninety. Just a
few notes on the NFL that we'll get to here
in just a second. But of course you always get
the ride away when you give us a call. It's
someone three two and two five seven ninety. So Chris,
good morning, go ahead.
Speaker 11 (32:30):
Hey, good morning, Dank Coome, morning, Cole.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Tell man, how you doing.
Speaker 11 (32:35):
Yeah, Hey, I just want to call about that previously
calling Man. I'm gonna have to say I'm gone with
Cole on that. Man, you definitely don't want to look
for a wild card. You definitely want to win that division. Now,
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong or not. But
if you win the division, you definitely at least get
one home game, right, and if you get the home game,
(32:55):
you definitely want your fans because it makes a big difference.
Winning at home, and then if you win that, then
you go into the division around and then you know,
obviously you'll play the highest you know, the Texans will
probably be the lowest seed that they're forcing. They will
play the number one seed. They will go on the road.
But yeah, you definitely don't want to be you campfully
don't want no wild card. You definitely you want to
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win that division so at least you can get guaranteed
a home game, right, I mean, if you want to
play in front of your friends, right, I mean, correct
me if I'm wrong?
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah, No, of course you do. I mean there's there's
less things to worry about. Chris, appreciate the call man,
have a happy Thanksgiving. I mean, you definitely want to
win the division because there's less uncertainty when you win
the division. You win that you know you're playing at home,
you know that you're in the wild card. You got
to sweat it out a little bit more. Who are
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we getting? Where are we going?
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
I mean, you know, just can you win that game
wherever you're going? I mean the Texans, the way that
this defense is playing, I think you feel good about
basically anybody you play against and I mean with some
of these wins you've had in the last few weeks, Like,
don't you think there's a part of you if you're
the Texans, that you want another crack at Denver, Like,
even if it's at Denver, you want another crack at
that team because you say, to yourself, we let the
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quarterback get off the hook, we let them get away
and be able to win this game.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
No, CJ.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I get all of that, but like that's one of
those games that maybe it's not a wildcard round, but
you know, you win your division, you get in, so
you know you're able, and then that's a divisional round.
Might we possibly think that the Texans could be in
the best position they've ever been in to win a
divisional round game because I think they played the I
think they played the Broncos again, they beat the Broncos.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
To me, that's not the point at all. To me,
It's go back to the start of the year. Nobody
had Indianapolis, nobody at Jacksonville, nobody had Tessy on their
radar in the AFC South, every single person at this station,
every single person on the national media side, All of
a sudden, Texans are on our way with this division,
best quarterback, best play design, best defense, they're going to deliver.
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So when everyone sets you up to have a season
where you're supposed to take another step forward and you
end up winning the wild card and Indianapolis beat you
and you louse to Jacksonville in stun fashion and you're
not able to go ahead and meet the expectations, it's
a failed season in my opinion. So just internally from
the standpoint of, hey, we play in the division that
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people laugh at, they call it a joke. They think
that we're just running away with this thing. We should
meet those expectations, and if we don't, then what's the
point of even showing on up Because if we failed
ourselves at this point, That's where.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I'm at from the same one.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
If you end up playing against Denver, like the humor me,
if they were the seventh seed and Denver was the
two seed, I one hundred percent agree with you. I
think the Houston marched on into Mile High Stadium, they
beat the breaks off of Denver if they get a
second chance at them, and it'd be great. But do
you want to have that theory of waiting around? What
if for some reason, new England falls apart. New England
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then drops down to two. Denver drops up to one.
Do you feel as confident going into New England, going
into Foxborough and winning against that team?
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Probably not.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
So the best way to guarantee that you get to
control enough of that narrative is by winning the division,
because then you're facing off against the top wild card team.
And last two years, Stan, I don't know if you
remember this, Houston Wood was the underdog in both games.
They won both games emphatically at Orangy Stadium.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
I think this is something also too, because I want
to do get some shield notes here of there is
such a thing as peaking too early, and I think
that it's also too We've seen it in the past
in the NFL and all sports that teams that are
playing their best either football, basketball, baseball, whatever it is,
late in the season and you play against a team
that's kind of been able to cruise in that it's
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usually the team that's still playing really good that goes
into that game and has the momentum.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
I mean, Denver last year was a lackluster program and
they somehow found a way to get to the seventh
seed this year.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I mean let's just call it as is.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Their defense is elite, their offensive pedestrian. They've had one
really good second half performance against a team that was
currently fighting for the number two pick in the NFL draft.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Let's go really quick here on look at the shield.
As you know, I don't know if we mentioned it
on Area yesterday, but Trevon Morigg getting a one game
suspension where you figured that was gonna be happening the
Monday night game. After the game, you saw that Juwan
Jennings was trying to go after someone and you're like, hey,
why is that the case? Then ESPN showed the replay. Oh,
that's why Marg punched him right in the midsection like
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or as David Newton, the longtime Panthers writer, wrote, for
striking forty nine Ers receiver Juwan Jennings in the groin
area on Monday night, he's appealing the penalty. I don't
really see how that's gonna be an appeal. Hey, guys,
I mean, I know I punched him right there, but
you know, come on, one game suspension, Really, that's gonna
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be quickly by either Derek Brooks, Ramon Foster or Jordan
Nelson being like dude, man, the man, you know what
you did and you know you can't do that.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Come on, come on, dude, everyone knows it. Like, listen,
if you want to punch somebody, punch him in the face.
If you want to go down if you want to
go downstairs, just also understand you deserve to get clocked
in the mouth.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
That's exactly it.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Joe Burrow says that even if the Bengals are completely
out of the playoff race, he's not sitting. He's going
to play if that's the case, because there's been thoughts that,
you know, this season's getting so far away from them
that the Bengals would just say, hey, Joe, just sit
it out the rest of way, let's give it another
run next year. I don't mind him doing this because
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I mean, it's also this is a guy that's missed
a ton of time throughout his career, and he's like, dude,
I like, no, I only get so many of these.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
I need to play as much as I can.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
So I don't push back because of that reason alone.
But if it was any other reason, like this was
his first year of really dealing with injuries and missing time. Brother,
your team's not going to the playoff. You probably want
a new head coach running the program next year. You
want a better draft pick, sit out, shut up, or
paying you a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
You'll be fine.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
But I agree because if he hasn't played a lot
in the NFL because of injuries, you probably need to
see him out there.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
And finally, former Texan Brandon Cooks has a new home
because these Saints last week let him go, which I
mean it was more or less say hey, this is
you know, not going the way that you or I hoped,
So let's give you a chance to catch on with
somebody else. Well, he's got a chance to catch on
with somebody the Buffalo Bills, who badly need receiver help.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
The Buffalo Bills added in the Kirkland brand wide receiver
that they needed to bring in from New Orleans. Sorry,
Chris Alave that you still have to live in that city.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Kirkland golf balls man telling you they'll sleep on Kirkland
golf balls. Lets get in a little bit of astrois here.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
It starts seven o'clock the hour because the rumors lead.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
To this prediction when it comes to your hometown. Nine.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
We'll discuss that here as we continue on a Wednesday
edition of The Morning Drive with Danny Cole right here
at Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 3 (40:32):
The Players Era tournaments, all right, Cole.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
So we did see a trade in Major League Baseball yesterday,
but the rumors are still flying when it comes to
all of the teams, and the Astros have been in
those rumors. And now you believe that some of the
rumors could lead to this prediction.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
I don't believe it, but I think that somebody believes that.
How would you feel about Sandy al Contra joining this rotation?
I would like Sandy al Contra to join this rotation?
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Explain.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
So, there been multiple reports coming out that the Marlins
are fighting in the balancing act of what do we
do with Sandy al Contra, former cy Young winner thirty
years old, at one point was for you to be
untouchable now being out seventeen point three million dollars. According
to an article by Bleacher Report, they believe that the
Ashers are going to make a move to bring on
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in the former cy Young Award winner to Paara alongside
with Hunter Round and Christian have youer.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
And that seems like a move that would make sense
for that seventeen what was it, seventeen point two is
at least seventeen point three million in I want to
short change Sandy is money. I apologize twenty one.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Million dollar club option for twenty twenty seven or two
million dollars buyout.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Well, I think that it's also too there's a couple
of reasons why he's gettable. I mean, that's one right there,
because that's not just an outrageous amount of money to
be able to pay for someone, but it's also too
You're talking about a guy coming off of Tommy John
season where last year he made how many starts he
made thirty one starts, win eleven and twelve with a
five point three six ERA in the year before where
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he went in for Tommy John surgery in twenty three
four point one four ERA with a seven to twelve record,
But before that he had been pretty much a three.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Or less guy for the better part of the last
three years.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
So I'll push back even further we get because everyone
wants to look at the ERA, and it's a little
bit differ than Dylan seas like Dylan SE's big reason
why I don't want him here. He doesn't give you
anything longer than five innings. That's been his issue since
he got San Diego. That means you're gonna have to
usual bullpen. The thing that you gotta remind yourself of
is this was not a good defense behind Sandel Contra
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in Miami, and then they made some trades to get
rid of players because they were going through a full rebuild.
Well Dan in the last two months San Alle Contra
had a three to five nine ERA and then three
seven to one ERA. He had a five to one
record during that span. His strikeout weight ran up, his
walk rate was at a season low of only five
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I mean, of only five of them month of September,
his FIP went up, and his OBA was at.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Point two two four.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
So all the things that we were starting to see
from Sandel Contre when he had his cy young season.
We're right back on display coming off of Tommy john surgery.
It feels like that he's inching closer towards being that
top twenty pitcher in the major leagues than he was
being a liability on the mouth.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
The only problem that I think you're going to run
into here is, I mean, there are reports that Miami
is willing to spend this offseason, so maybe it would
be one of those of we don't really want to
move off of this guy, and eventually we probably would
have to move off of this guy, but for right now,
you can ask for a king's ransom at this point.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
Well, what they would do is I think that they're
gonna wait until the trade deadline. They're gonna bring in
some players, bring in some prospects, make some moves to
that way, they're all very cheap friendly deals. If they struggle, well,
buyer's remorse. We get out of these bad contracts, we
move them, we bring in some prospects, we get the
farm system loadaback on up. If we do end up
having success, we don't have to move anybody, and we
feel really good about where our farm system already is
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we can go bring in a name or two from
a team that is struggling, So like that's kind of
the balancing act here. But the other thing that I
look at from the Citiac conscious side of things is, Dude,
if you know he's not going to sign their long term,
why not cash on in, like because you still have
Edward Cabrera, who's a very young up and coming player.
Uriperezes still on your team, so you still have some
young guys that could be a part of your rotation.
If Unconscious leading next offseason, he's gonna opt out of
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his deal, then why not go ahead and go get
something in return for him rather than watch him leave.
Like again, Asks are a perfect team to see that
happen because they did this with Kyle Tucker. They realized
Tucker wasn't going to sign here, Okay, we're gonna fix
right field. We're gonna bring in a replacement for Alex Bregman,
We're gonna bring in a number five starter. And it
feels like they won the deal because all three of
them are gonna be back on the roster in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Five, and it seems like Kyle Tucker will not be
in Chicago next year, so that definitely backs up what
you just said there.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
I mean, but it all goes back to what Dana.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Brown said when we met with them at the end
of the season, where he had specifically mentioned trading for
a starter, because it seems like that's where the Astros
would want to go with this, and looking at some
of the financially savvy moves they've made this offseason, trading
away a du Bond, obviously letting Ramoni Reus walk, and
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same deal with Chas McCormick and some of the other guys.
But I mean, Channel Rome has pointed out there is
no reason to believe that money is gonna be pocketed.
The belief is you're making those moves so you can
get even further under the luxury tax to go back
in and make some moves where I think that probably
ideally if he asks Dana Brown his Christmas wish list
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right now, it's trade for a starter and then probably
go free agency for an outfield option.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
I would say your top three moves at this point
are bringing in somebody who can be a utility middle
endfielder and maybe have to play in the corner outfield spots.
Bringing in an outfielder long term, whether it be in
center or in the corner. Trade for a starting pitcher
that you can put at number two. Sign a guy
who can fight in for a number five spot to
be a long term reliever. If you answer all four
of those questions before the start of the new calendar year,
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I think you're in a pretty good spot. I've thrown
this name out here. I want to get your take
on this. I very much am a believer. That's Zach Eflin,
who last season played for the Baltimore Orioles.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
You get him a fresh start down here.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
He was pitching at an elite level in twenty twenty four,
double some injuries last year. That fills your spot at
number five. That allows you then to go out and
make a big time move at number two.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Well, but it feels like number five is Justin Verlander
like that. It feels like it's it's already ramping up
for that to be the case.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
So then you bring in Justin Verlander, you bring in
Zach Eflin, and then do you just trade for a
d tray for a mill infielder. Is that where the
Brandon Donovan and the Brandon Low conversation starts on it.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
I think that's probably the case.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
I mean, because if you bring in e Flin, you're
not bringing him in to be a top of the
rotation guy that that kicks avy Air up to two.
And then you're really at that point just trying to
figure out who's three, who's four?
Speaker 4 (46:42):
Who would you put in that option? Verlander at three
and Flynn four? Would you put Fln four and Verlander?
Or was put e Flyin at three and Verlander at four?
Speaker 3 (46:49):
I mean you probably put Verlander at three and then
Flin at four, and then you know whether that's I
mean Lance McCullers Junior, whether that is I mean, I
don't I don't turn my back on a J. Blue Ball.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
That's a guy that I think showed me a ton
last year and has every single right to have an
opportunity to go for a starting rotation spot this year.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
I can tell you that if you're going to make
a trade though for Santy al Contra, if I am
the Marlins, I'm asking for.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Blue Ball like that's just a priority number one.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
I see the value in him as a maybe even
short term starter, a guy that you can utilize as
a long term reliever.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
He can be in multiple facets.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
If we want to have a six man rotation, he
can be that six guy I'm asking for blue ball
if I'm looking for a contra to come back and return.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
And talking with our good buddy Ari Alexander you know
who's now up in Boston about this a little bit
last night. I mean bringing up the point that I
think we all know when it comes to the Astros
in the trade market, it's going to hurt like you're
you're going to see somebody traded away that you're like,
oh man, did not want that to happen. But look,
welcome to the business of you no longer are flush
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with prospects down there to be able to move around
or even movable guys at the major league level that
are not going to hit you where it hurts.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
We'll think about remember when Ryan Gusta got traded. A
lot of people were at the time saying he belongs
to the starting rotation. Well, you had to move him
to go get Haesu Sanchez, And unfortunately, one team is
probably going to profit off of it because Ryan Gusto
is going to be at least a part of the
Miami Marylands organization, and if he's not.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
He's gonna get moved.
Speaker 4 (48:20):
He's gonna get moved for probably a pretty decent ransom
because he'll be developed down there. Hazu Sanchez, we think
he's going to be on the active opening day roster.
We think that with the new hitting coach, things will change.
I don't know, because again, there were still so many
issues when it came to him at the plate.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
How funny is it that, you know a difference a
year makes, because all the trades the Astros made last year,
it was widely lauded that, oh man.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
Dana Brown cooked.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
He he won this because the only guy you had
to give up really was Ryan Gusto. Yeah, whereas the
year before it was my god, how can you go
get a guy that's pitched the way he has in
Toronto and give up Joey lo Berfdo and Jake Bloss
and Will wag Billy's kid Will Will Wagner got traded
away even this year, Bloss missing last year with the
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Tommy John And you know, low Berfdo was basically a
four A player. He was he was riding the shuttle
between Toronto and Buffalo all season long.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
Have you thought about potentially calling up Los Angeles and
bringing back Kakuci.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
I mean, I would think that, you know, just for
the numbers you threw out with al Contra, that that's
probably the way that they look first.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
But I mean it couldn't hurt.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
I mean, just because you know a guy that knows
how to pitch here pitched well here. It is not
necessarily like a ridiculous number either. You'd have two more
years at twenty one, and it doesn't look like the
stuff has dropped off either, So sure, why not I
pick up the phone.
Speaker 4 (49:45):
If you want to guarantee that you need a number three,
Like let's say that your intuition going into the year
as Christian Havier is a number two, which I think
you should be a number three. But still regardless, the
couch is a pretty good option at number three, and
I think he's a cheaper option. I think that you
understand what you're getting in him. He's gonna eat up
a lot of innings. You fit well inside the clubhouse.
It was a really smart move by Dan at the time.
It could be a really smart move to bring him
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on back if they're trying to dump some salary out
in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
I don't hate it.
Speaker 4 (50:11):
The thing that I wonder about Dan is that I
I don't see them making a big time splash at
the pitching market. When it comes to trades, they're gonna
make a splash. It's Brandon Lau or it's Brendan Donovan.
Those are the two that I think you're gonna be seeing.
So you're gonna bargain bin when it comes to making
this trade for the picture. That's why I think Zach Afflene,
you say a cooochier. Two names, so you gotta pay
attention to because one's gonna be on the market as
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a sign and trade. One's gonna be on the market
for a trade option.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
Well, let's continue the Astros off season conversation because this
team looks like they are absolutely open for deals to
be made and could the Astros strike on some of
those opportunities. We'll discuss that here as we are getting
going in the seven o'clock the hour, it's the Morning
Drive Dan and Cole Sports TX seven ninety.
Speaker 7 (50:55):
The Morning Drive with Dann and Cole on Sports Talk
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Speaker 2 (51:05):
Get in on the Astros discussion. Seven one three, two
one two five seven ninety. You've you've thought that that
move signals that the Cardinals are ready to start dealing.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
They're gonna deal.
Speaker 4 (51:17):
What I think we also learn, though, is that they
want prospects, because if you're not going out and adding in,
I mean, you're not trading away Sonny Gray to a
team like the Boston Red Sox when they have an
outfield conundrum because of.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
William Bray, you and Jared Duran.
Speaker 4 (51:32):
And Sephaiella and Roman Anthony that's gonna be back up there,
and you take two pitchers if you are not going
through a slight rebuild. So now we know that if
you want to launch a new part, if you want
a Brandan Donovan, if you want one of their other
guys in the rotation, if you want a Wilson Contrerez,
you're not giving up proven players. They don't need the
proven players in the contracts. They want to start fresh,
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They want the farmacists to get a little bit loaded,
and they want to feel like that in two or
three years they're competitive.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
And they also probably right now feel like, as currently constructed,
they're not gonna overtake the Cubs. They're not gonna overtake
the Reds. They're not even gonna overtake the Brewers, who,
of course they are in front of all three of
those teams, so.
Speaker 4 (52:10):
They're not even gonna take the Pirates if they start
spending money this offseason.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
I mean that's a possibility too.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
I mean, just because it does seem like the Pirates
are trending upwards. So I mean it is one of
those where, again I get back to the conversation you
know you have with the Astros fans, oh, rebuild. I'm like, brother,
you've lived that life. You know what that life is like.
You're not in a position where you need to do that.
You start seeing this Astros team finish like where the
A's and the Angels are, then maybe we can start
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having that conversation.
Speaker 3 (52:36):
But you're a competitive team right now. When you're a
competitive team, you keep competing.
Speaker 4 (52:41):
Well, the A's are gonna eventually move on up into
the third place spot. I think this year is going
to be the year where they finish ahead of Texas,
and they finish ahead of Los Angeles. When you fall
behind them, say it's a sign of wave in the
wife flag.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
We got to at least do a slight rebuild doesn't have.
Speaker 4 (52:55):
To be fully Maybe it's two years missing the playoffs
and then you're right back in. That's fine, but like
it's not there yet. The Brendan Donovan thing, though, was
starting to feel a little bit more like a outreach program.
It's very much a pipeline dream. You're gonna have to
start looking at other options because you don't have the prospects.
Speaker 3 (53:12):
I think that's just kind of the case right now.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
You may feel like, hey, we can trade away Zach Cole,
we can trade away aj Bluebaugh and then Bryce Matthews,
and then we have no farm system that we can
really trust. But we're bringing in Brendon Donovan, who's a
great glove. He can play multiple positions, fills the gap
at second base. I love that, But now when it
comes time to the trade deadlining, you really do need
that player.
Speaker 3 (53:31):
It's not available.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
In regards to Donovan, he had somebody last night Astros
razorback fan asking our buddy Ari Alexander, of course you
used to be with KPRC too, now doing TV up
in Boston, did the Astros have enough minor league talent
to trade for Donovan? And his response conceivably yes, but
fans might not like the package that it could take
two years of control, good player. I mean the package
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that you might not like. I mean, is that Walker
Yannick going out the door.
Speaker 4 (53:57):
It's Yanick, it's Matthews, and it's probably a picture that
we don't know enough about that should be on the
rise up. That's that's the package, if not something else
also thrown in there.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
And with Yanick two, I mean, I think the thought
is there is invaluable catching and you spent a first
round pick on him, you know, That's that's one of
those that it's like, God, it's going to take it.
It's got to take a lot for that to happen,
because I mean, I think that there is some concern too,
at least in the immediates and and also too in
the not too distant future. That I mean, you're not
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one hundred percent sold on the ideas.
Speaker 4 (54:29):
Jan Diaz is one hundred plate appearances to prove to
me that he is probably the long term catcher this
year that I think that's a fair statement at this point,
how bad it was last season.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
I'll change it up a little bit. I'll say he
has two months.
Speaker 4 (54:41):
To prove with a new hitting coach that he is
going to stop swinging outside the zone. He is going
to be better at the plate, and the defense is
not dropped off. If that ends up not happening, you're
not moving off in this year. You may not even
move off him in twenty twenty six, but you're starting
to plan on what is going to be your long
term future catcher.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
Hey like see Yer get back to what he was
in twenty twenty four, much less of what he was
last year. Someone three two, one, two, five seven ninety
is the way to get in.
Speaker 7 (55:08):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
Dennis and Cyprus once away and talking to some strows.
Good morning, Dennis, Morning Dan, mornin.
Speaker 12 (55:14):
Cole, how are we guys?
Speaker 3 (55:16):
Very well? Happy Thanksgiving to you, Same to you.
Speaker 13 (55:20):
So I know, Cole, you've been talking for like the
most of the past week about Brandon Donovan, Brandon Lauts.
Speaker 14 (55:27):
Maybe I missed the meadow, But aren't there still.
Speaker 13 (55:30):
Only four infield spots when we already have Paradus, We
have Karaa.
Speaker 3 (55:35):
We have pained You, we have Altuve, we have Walker.
Speaker 13 (55:38):
Why are we talking infielders when the problem is clearly
we don't have anybody in the outfield.
Speaker 3 (55:46):
I can answer that for you.
Speaker 4 (55:46):
Donna's number one, hose al Tuobe is a liability defensively
at second base, so that's one problem. Number two, Brendan
Donovan plays multiple positions. He's played third base, He's played
both corner outfield positions. He's played shortstop, he's played second base.
He's a gold glover at spots. He is an elite glove.
He is a better upgrade over Mariso Dubond at the plate.
He also has a little bit more power and a
little bit bit more of a contact rate that can
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drive the ball into the corner of the infields. So
you're adding in a player that can do a little
bit of everything. It takes a lot of pressure off
of you having to play Hosyl too ma in a
position that he no longer can play at an elite level.
Speaker 13 (56:22):
Maybe I'm just not seeing that, and I like al Contra,
but I just don't I'm not seeing the trade for
another infield piece. I would rather see us go get
someone into a center fielder who can hit two eighty
twenty five homers, eighty RBIs and maybe steal fifteen to
twenty bag Dennis.
Speaker 4 (56:39):
I would love to see Cody Bollinger here too, but
guess what now, with the New York Mets moving off
of Brandon Nemo, he's probably going up to going up
to Queens.
Speaker 3 (56:47):
So I feel you, dude, I really do.
Speaker 4 (56:49):
I'd love to see them go make a move for
a big time splash outfielder.
Speaker 3 (56:52):
That's not gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (56:53):
What could happen is them moving off of a guy
at second base, letting him play in the outfield, letting
it be a La Tune style of motion when it
comes to yourn Alvarez and Jose Altuve, and then the
other one does the DHS and you upgrade at second
base by bringing in an infielder.
Speaker 13 (57:13):
All right, cool, guys, thanks, thanks for taking.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Dennis appreciated, I mean, uh with what he was seeing
out there for center field.
Speaker 3 (57:21):
Yeah, sign me up, man, I'm hum in.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
That's why I always I always love you know that
the creative player and Dennis, I'm not saying you're doing this,
but I mean to your points, I mean you want that,
then yeah, it's it's it's going to cost a premium that.
I just don't think that this team is willing to spend.
Speaker 3 (57:40):
No, he exists. His name is Cody Bellinger. The problem
is is that now. I think he's going to the
New York Mets after they trade away Brandon.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
You almost wonder too, if if there's a possibility for
uh the Dodgers to swing back in with him into
bringing back Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (57:54):
Could see it.
Speaker 4 (57:54):
I think of that like that was the rumor at
the very beginning of the off season was he was
going to go back to where his career started. He'd
play center field, be a good backup for Freddie Freeman
in case of anything, or if they want to move
Freeman at some point designated hitter.
Speaker 3 (58:07):
I don't hate that move at all.
Speaker 4 (58:08):
I don't, I think though from the standpoint of I
want to get paid to play in a big market
and be a good backup option for who is at
first base.
Speaker 3 (58:16):
Cody Melger fits the bill all right, So injuries are
a concern, But what about Byron Buxton. They're gonna ask
for too much?
Speaker 4 (58:25):
Like, honestly, I think that if Ari's right when it
comes to what is going to be the package for
Brendan Donovan, I feel like the package is going to
be more because of again, you realize that this is
an MVP caliber player when he's on the field, and
do you really want a guy that also is probably
gonna miss forty games per year guaranteed, simply because you
can't stay healthy.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
Well, I mean that's where I think you kind of
look at him as as almost kind of like the
Carlos Korea handling of you put care over at third
to prolong his career.
Speaker 3 (58:55):
So you take him, put Bucks in left field, maybe
left field. Yeah, I feel like at that point you
just put him a designated hitter, and that doesn't solve
a problem for you, creates more issues for him.
Speaker 2 (59:05):
Yeah, it seems like there is a little bit of
a logjam there too. Subone three two, one two, five
seven nine. Let's get Phillip in here real quick.
Speaker 15 (59:12):
Philip, good morning, Hey guys, just wanted to share with
you my theory and what they're gonna end up doing.
I know a lot of people immediately go jord On
to the DH, but the dude hits better, much better
when he's playing in the field. I don't want him
in the left field on the road, but I could
see a scenario where they play him.
Speaker 3 (59:31):
In left field at home.
Speaker 15 (59:33):
He's got a decent arm, he just doesn't have a
lot of range. And then at home you got al
two a taking the DH spot while Jordon isn't. And
then when your when al Tuova is playing hit second,
you can defensive sub him after his last appat in
the game, especially if you have the lead, because you
don't need as bad anymore. Then you put in the
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gold glover whoever they can't hit a lick and stick
him out there for the defense.
Speaker 3 (59:58):
At the end of the game.
Speaker 15 (01:00:00):
You just live with the fact that, hey, if it's
extra innings and it's tied up, you don't have his
bat anymore. And that's just the risk you take at
that point for defense. But I think that's it's gonna
be some kind of rotation like that, just based on
there are tendencies to constantly be tinkering with the lineup
and moving guys in and out, and I could see
that being advantage to Altwove getting more DH time to
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extend his career out, maybe get a little better juice
in his bat, and not having to play the field
some And so Donovan can make some sense there, and
that if you have l two adhing half the games
on the road and you have Donovan at second base
for the road games, that could make some sense. You
get some plate appearances there, but I think you got
to leave plate appearances too for paradis at a spot somewhere,
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and DH might be one of them at some point too,
and forcing L two eight to second on the road
some so you know, cross your fingers he's back and
parade as the sealthie of course. But that's kind of
how I see it. It's going to be kind of
a working mix. I don't think it's desperate that they
need a guy like Donovan. It would be a luxury.
So I would say it just kind of depends on
what the price is at the price gets to how
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you walk away find something else but rightfield center field.
If they keep Jick Myers and he is what he
was last year, e'ven lived with that. I just I
don't see a desperate need anywhere per se other than
maybe innings theaters. They need somebody in that rotation that
you can pencil in for one hundred and fifty or
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more innings and not worry about are they going to
pitch well or get heard or something else.
Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Yeah, hey, Phil, appreciate the call. We got to get
to Alex Miller. Alex Miller talk some Texas A and
M here So we'll continue this conversation because I think
there is still a lot left here, but perfection is
on the line for the Aggies. And we'll talk with
Alex Miller of the Bryant College Station Eagle right here
as we get ready for Friday's game there in Austin.
Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
Right here on the Morning Tribe Sports Talk seven.
Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
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Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Performancy.
Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
You need to see from number ten to guarantee his
spot in New York City for the Heisman Trophy presentation.
Speaker 12 (01:02:23):
Good morning to you, Cole.
Speaker 17 (01:02:24):
Yes, it's a good question, and yes, Marcel Reid is
going to have possibly two golden opportunities to show why
he should win the Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 12 (01:02:34):
These next two weeks. Starts this week in Austin.
Speaker 17 (01:02:37):
Yeah, I think that if you're Marcel, look, it starts
with playing clean football. Part of the reason at him
was in that thirty to three hole is because he
had two first half turnovers. Actually he technically had three
because he had the fumble that was returned for a touchdown.
Speaker 12 (01:02:54):
So playing clean football's number one.
Speaker 17 (01:02:56):
Number two, find your guys that are weapons, right, it's
Mario Kraver and Casey Conception you on or Dynamite and
Ashton Bethel Roman.
Speaker 12 (01:03:05):
Is really coming on as of late.
Speaker 17 (01:03:08):
A and M's got to find those guys out in
space and make Texas pay in the secondary. And then
number three, he's got to use his legs, and I
think we're gonna see more of that.
Speaker 12 (01:03:16):
You saw him use his legs quite a bit in
a big game against LSU.
Speaker 17 (01:03:20):
Now that the stakes are higher and A and M's
got pretty much the postseason square in front of them,
they're gonna let him loose, I think. And I think
that if Marcel can can use his legs and some
designed runs and see some lanes and some scrambles, he's
gonna have some opportunity to really add some rushing yards
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to his statistics, which is a key metric when you
look at the differentiator between him and guys like maybe
Fernando Mendoza Indiana or Julie sand at Ohio State. Really
just they don't have the rushing yards that Marcel does.
Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Again, Alex Miller joined us here on the Morning Drive
with Dan and Hole and Alex perfections on the line
for A and M. But it seems like that most
of the talking points this week are Texas wins this game,
Texas can get into the playoff. What's being said there
in College Station? Is there a little feeling of being
overlooked in this one?
Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
Maybe?
Speaker 17 (01:04:17):
I think that A and M's just trying to do
what A and M's done this season, and the whole
mantra of this team this whole year has been finished,
because let's be frank, last year they didn't finish.
Speaker 12 (01:04:30):
Started seven to one, finished eight and five.
Speaker 17 (01:04:32):
It was a disappointing end, and the biggest disappointment was
probably losing to Texas at Kyle Field and the renewal
of the rivalry where you had a shot to play
in the SEC Championship game for the first time and
keep your college football playoff hopes alive and year one
under Mike Elko, which would have been a huge accomplishment
in a transition year.
Speaker 12 (01:04:53):
For a coaching change.
Speaker 17 (01:04:54):
And so I think that what you've seen from this
A and M team this season is that.
Speaker 12 (01:04:59):
They been able to right a lot of wrongs and
they've been doing it with some vengeance and this is
the biggest one of all. I mean, I don't I
don't know what would be sweeter for A and M.
Speaker 17 (01:05:11):
A chance to cap an undefeated season and punch your
ticket to conference championship game for the first time since
nineteen ninety eight, or in your rivals chances of having
a postseason bid and go eight and four, which people
like to make jokes about Texas A and M being
Texas eight and four, and they could make the Longhorns
have an eight and four season with a win in
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Austin on Friday.
Speaker 4 (01:05:34):
So let's talk about that eight and fourteen that potentially's
on the works out in Austin. What have you seen
from arch Manning in this offense that kind of has
turned the corner and they've really started to find an
identity over the last few games. Now, credit they didn't
lose by twenty five to Georgia, but most teams do
that when they have to play between the hedges. Beating
Arkansas by thirty, I mean, you gotta feel pretty confident
that this is going to be revamped look of a
team that probably has sights on ending a perfect streak
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for Texas.
Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
A and M.
Speaker 17 (01:05:59):
Yeah, I mean, let's be honest, Arkansas has probably got
the worst defense in the sec A and M lit
him up to. But what a game like that does
is that it gives you confidence and it gives you
the good reps going into a meaningful game against a
good defense, and Arches Arch has looked pretty good these
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last few games stands the Georgia game. Like you said,
the key for A and M is gonna have to
be that they need to They need to fluster him
early and often, they need to get him on the run.
If Arch has a clean pocket, he's pretty dang good.
If he doesn't, that's where trouble happens. And so I'd
be willing to bet that Mike Elko is gonna be
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throwing the kitchen sink at him pretty much all game. A.
Speaker 12 (01:06:44):
M's number one in the nation on third down.
Speaker 17 (01:06:46):
So if you're Texas, you need to win big on
first and second down to get into some manageable third
down situations and when your battles where he can. And
the thing about the saying them defense too, they've been
susceptible to giving up some big plays and so if
Arts can connect downfield with some of those receivers and
if they can spring a big run or two like
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they did last season. That's gonna that's gonna be a
key way for Texas to stay in the game and
find a way to win.
Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Alex Miller again, Brian College Station Eagle join us here
on the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole and Alex.
I mean you kind of touched on it right there,
but do you feel like that is going to be
the defensive game plan is overload with numbers and just
really try to overwhelm Texas upfront with a group that's
not been very good this year.
Speaker 12 (01:07:32):
Yeah, I mean it's got to be right. Texas has
a has a leaky offensive line and a M's got
one of the best pass rushers in the nation, and
cash is how I mean, that's that's.
Speaker 17 (01:07:43):
Gotta be where it starts. AAM just needs to play
sound defense. They need to play clean gap football. And
I sound like a coach, but when AAM does that,
they're as good as anyone. And when they don't, really
bad things happen. They they've been really susceptible. It's a
big play is when they've had misfits and blown assignments. Uh,
the Arkansas game was chief among them are Arkansas hung
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forty two on.
Speaker 12 (01:08:07):
Them and ran right right up and down the field.
Speaker 17 (01:08:10):
And in last year, Texas kind of had their way
in the run game in that in that game at
Kyle Field.
Speaker 12 (01:08:16):
And so A and M's just got to really play
clean football on on that defensive side.
Speaker 17 (01:08:21):
And if they do, I just think A and M's
got a little more firepower on offense than in Texas.
Speaker 12 (01:08:27):
Does I think one thing? Though? Special teams might play
a huge role in this game.
Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
Uh.
Speaker 17 (01:08:34):
Texas obviously has a fantastic returner and Ryan Nibblett Casey
conception has been great at punt return, but a MS
kicking situation has been.
Speaker 12 (01:08:42):
Kind of shaky as of late.
Speaker 17 (01:08:44):
And if it comes down to a late field goal, Uh,
curious to see how that would how that would shake out.
Speaker 4 (01:08:50):
Alex If let's say Texas A and M does win
this game, they're twelve and now they're going to Atlanta
for the first time in conference history. What's a better
matchup in your opinion for the Aggies guarantee that they
keep the NDFU streak alive Alabama, who would have to
beat Auburn in the Iron Bowl. They win, they guarantee
their spot in or Georgia who if they beat Georgia
Tech in the same building with the college football I mean,
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with the SEC championship game will be played the following week,
they would end up having the nod. Who do you
think is a better matchup? For text saying him, oh man,
that's like picking your poison.
Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Uh.
Speaker 12 (01:09:23):
Part of me wants to say Alabama. Alabama doesn't run the.
Speaker 17 (01:09:27):
Ball maybe as well, and that that's kind of been
a little bit of a weakness for the Aggies and
just you know, I feel like a fans would travel,
but playing Georgia in their backyard would just be a challenge.
I think either one would be a total dog fight,
and I think it would be a really good litmus
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test to see if A and M truly is one
of the top three teams in the country, because quite honestly,
they've had a good shakeout in their SEC schedule this
year and they've went and beat Notre Dame on the road.
Speaker 12 (01:10:03):
That's a great feather in the cap.
Speaker 17 (01:10:05):
With how the Irish have responded since then, LSU wasn't
a bad feather in the cap considering what they were
doing at the time they were playing.
Speaker 12 (01:10:13):
Things have totally unraveled since aying and beat them literally
started the next day when they fired Brian Kelly.
Speaker 17 (01:10:19):
But I think that maybe Alabama, but I think they're
both on kind of an even playing field.
Speaker 12 (01:10:27):
If you asked me, Cole.
Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
About another minute or so with Alex Miller again, Brian
College Station Eagle here on the morning Drive with Dan
and Cole and with Mike Elko signing his contract extension,
Now the question starts to what happens with some of
the assistants there. Do you think that we're going to
see a pretty significant amount of assistant attrition or do
(01:10:51):
you think exactly like what Elko talked about when he
signed his deal, Alex, that they're paying these guys a
lot more to be able to keep these guys around.
Speaker 17 (01:11:00):
Yeah, you know, Colin Kline's a guy that's been kind
of the name that's been surfacing in some of these
job searches.
Speaker 12 (01:11:08):
He's definitely a guy.
Speaker 17 (01:11:09):
That wants to be a head coach and will probably
be a fantastic head coach when he becomes one. He's
a guy though, that can wait for the right opportunity,
kind of like what Elko did when he was defensive
coordinator at A and m so I don't think he's
just gonna rush into a job simply to take a
head coaching position. Oklahoma stake got filled. That was a
job that Klein was tied to. You know, there's several
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jobs that could come open here in these.
Speaker 12 (01:11:34):
Next few weeks that maybe a little more.
Speaker 17 (01:11:36):
Higher profile, but no getting that salary pool for the
assistance increase, it's definitely gonna help with retention. And I
think that definitely A and M has the advantage there
where guys might have choices to make and you've got.
Speaker 12 (01:11:55):
A good situation where you're at, why leave it at
least right now?
Speaker 17 (01:11:59):
You can be a little more picky if you're gonna
have those incentives, and it's gonna help ain and retain
kind of some key non coaching positions like strength coach
Tommy Moffatt and maybe even general manager Derek Miller that
has been really a key brain piece behind building this
roster that started eleven and.
Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
Ozer Alex gets you out of here on this thirty
seconds or last? What is your Thanksgiving food?
Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
Hot take? Hot take?
Speaker 12 (01:12:24):
Ah Man green Bean castrole and hand are terrible.
Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
Let's be honest, how dare you sir?
Speaker 17 (01:12:30):
No?
Speaker 12 (01:12:31):
That sorry?
Speaker 17 (01:12:31):
Cole that that's in sweet potato castroles. Sweet potatoes and marshmallows.
They're both good independent foods together.
Speaker 12 (01:12:40):
I don't know, man, I don't know. Give me turkey
and mashed potatoes and stuffing with brown gravy that all day.
Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
See there you go. No green's on the table. So
see we covered it all, Alex. We got gap sound football.
Didn't hear hat on a hat would have loved that
one on the Bengo card. And then we got Thanksgiving
hot takes right there with some football in between.
Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
But man, we really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Enjoy tomorrow and you have good coverage on Friday.
Speaker 12 (01:13:05):
Appreciate it, guys. Happy Thanksgiving to y'all and we'll talk
soon hopefully.
Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
There you go, Alex Miller can Brian College Station Eagle
hopping on with us for a few minutes.
Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Well, was it the ham or was it the green
bean castrole a drew you off side?
Speaker 6 (01:13:18):
Here?
Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
Green Beer Castle is elite.
Speaker 4 (01:13:20):
I love Greenby Castle if it's made properly, especially when
you have the French onions on top. There is nothing
better on the side dish I am. I am a
big fan of the fried onion strings. That's that's a
good move, but elites, I put that nest here. I
think that mass Potatoes for sides, it's a fourth or
a five starter for me.
Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Really yeah, yeah, there's there's so many others that far ahead.
Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
Oh god, yeah, I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
I think mass Chows is easily number one, and I
would go starting in my number two spot being green
bean Castle at least my Grandma's green bean Castle.
Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Well, I mean number one for me is my dad's
cornbread dressing, which I will be helping him make a
little bit later on.
Speaker 4 (01:13:55):
So, by the way, Alex did say something about this
game that I think is really poignant, but it has
everything to do not with the quarterback positions. It's one
player who definitely is going to alter the way this
game goes.
Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
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Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
Play Jason Automobiles. You're a big movie guy. Uh huh?
Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Is it a Is it a thanks Even classic? No,
it's It's the quintessential Thanksgiving classic. He's the only one.
Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
I was just saying, do you even consider it a
Thanksgiving classic or not? Because I personally don't.
Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
I mean, like you could go whatever the Vince Vaughn
and Reese Witherspoon movie was, because weren't they supposed to
go on for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
No, it was four Christmas. Oh it was for Christmases.
There you go.
Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
So that flies in the face of that already. So yeah,
I don't know if really any others. Actually, you know what,
here's a quintessential Thanksgiving movie. Sin of a Woman with
al Pacino and Chris O'Donnell.
Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Never would have thought of that. One and here.
Speaker 4 (01:16:26):
Okay, let me explain the reason why said I say
it this way, because are you ever watching Home Alone
in July? No, I'm watching Playing Straeted Automobiles when it's
on television.
Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
It's on in June. I'll watch it done Thanksgiving me.
Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Well, that's that's when we weighed into the die Hard
waters too, because die Hard was the same deal.
Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
Yeah, but Diehard is one hundred percent of Christmas. It is.
Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
But I mean, but you know, you also have the
detractors who say that it's not because it was released
in July.
Speaker 5 (01:16:51):
Nine.
Speaker 4 (01:16:51):
To chime on in what do you think? Is it
a chrisp Is it a Thanksgiving cult classic? Or just
another run of the mill movie.
Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Rocket's gonna take on the Warriors tonight out West eight o'clock.
Rockets launch pad for that one College Football Playoff rankings.
Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
Which we're getting into some CFB right here.
Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
As A and M stays at number three, Texas is
up to number sixteen, Texas Tech in at number five,
And of course that game between Texas and Texas A
and M can be heard right here on Friday evening
six thirty is going to be the kick from there
in Austin. You got an A and M point. I
got a Texas point. The A and M point for
this one.
Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
This is not going to come down to their offense whatsoever.
Like I believe that Marca we can have a good game.
I believe he could have an average game. I believe
that wide receivers could drop a million passes. This is
going to come into pressing, pressuring Arch Manning. Like, we
got to get out of this narrative that Arch is
still a bust because of what he looked like in
Week one. Go back and watch him for the last
four games. He has been arguably the best quarterback in
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the SEC. When he's on point, when he is doing
everything that we envisioned him at the start of the season,
he looks like a revitalized version of himself. That is
very much would be in the conversation for the Heisman Trophy.
If the season we're to end a day and they
had a ten to two record, very much would be
in the conversation for next season being the number one
overall pick all the things that we envisioned at the
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start of the year. Cash is how the defensive end
he's up for the Benargic Award. He is up for
the he's up for the Lombardi Award, He's up for
the lot Trophy, He's up for literly everything.
Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
He's had an All American season.
Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
He has got to pressure arch Manning and to make
him look like he did against Ohio State. If that
shows up on Friday night in Austin, Texas is not
of a shot.
Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
And then I mean from the Texas side of it too,
where last night is mentioned. You know, you get up
to number sixteen in the College Football Playoff rankings, and
I know that some people might say it's one spot.
Who cares, Well, that's one spot that now I think
opens the door for them, because you've got a lot
of teams that are in front of them this weekend
that say Ole Miss they lose that game, and you're
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already kind of starting to see that the playoff committee
is looking at ole Miss and saying, hey, we hear
the rumors and it sounds like your guy on Monday
is going to be gone. So if that's the case,
you're not the same football team. So maybe that has
a chance if they lose in the Egg Bowl to
up bump them out. You're looking for LSU to go
pull off against Oklahoma, which they're not going to do.
Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
LSU's offense is dog water.
Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
I mean, you know, you would even like for the
Notre Dame after dark at Stanford for Andrew Lux guys, which,
by the way, did you see that interview that he
was doing the season, Yeah, where he's right in the
middle of it, and then of course you know he
starts talking through his molars like he does.
Speaker 7 (01:19:30):
Oh go go go get him.
Speaker 4 (01:19:34):
He's literally the epitome of a college football fan on
the sidelines. That is what you want to see for Stanford.
He loves his school. And you know that's the thing too.
Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
Whenever you do and Andrew Luck in personation, you almost
have to talk through your molars. I mean, there's what
a great program we have, you know, it's it's so
fun to be here, back back on the farm again.
Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
It's just I love this school so much. I will
give you credit. That has been your best impression you've
done in the last two weeks. I can do it,
Andrew Luck. That is a very spot on Andrew Lux.
Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
So if we ever have Andrew luckin studio, which I
mean he is a Stratford guy, then I think I
would probably have to say, hey, man, I'm sorry. I
gotta do the impersonation like one of my favorites that
he ever had when he was with the Colts, Jack Doyle,
Jack Doyle.
Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
I love Jack Doyle. He's great.
Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
As for the Texas Longhorns, I'm gonna push back. They're
not going to the playoff regardless.
Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
They're just not.
Speaker 4 (01:20:20):
There's too much for room and unexplained. Why what do
we notice last night in the playoff rankings? Texas moved
up one spot? Who moved up three spots?
Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
Michigan. Okay, they jumped them.
Speaker 4 (01:20:31):
Michigan has Ohio State's number until I see it. Why
am I gonna doubt that Michigan can't pull off the
upset against them?
Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
Well, then there you go.
Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
I mean that that's another one that you would need
to have happen, is you would need for Ohio State
to break the streak against Michigan and then that knocks
them out. And I mean, at that point, I think
you just need two more Sony.
Speaker 4 (01:20:48):
Miami to lose to pitt. I still think that you
would need BYU to lose a game. I still think
you would need Utah to lose a game because they
would all be ten and two.
Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
They are right ahead of you.
Speaker 12 (01:20:57):
Even if you.
Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
Weren't to beat Texas A and M.
Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
You made games traction, but you're not going to gain
enough to where I think that you're in the conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
You remember, really believe that if it's Utah on Texas,
that Texas would not.
Speaker 4 (01:21:06):
Get I believe it BYU wins on Saturday and then
they win in the Big Twelve Championship against Texas Tech.
They're not taking Texas Tech out with one loss in
regular season play to put it in a Texas team
that lost by twenty five points to Georgia and then
lost on the road to a potential three to nine
Florida squad.
Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
So I mean there are auds for it.
Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
I mean the loss of Florida, that Georgia loss both
of those. But here I think is a little bit
of a slippery slope. If you're the college football playoff committee,
there is no incentive to schedule those tough games early
on the season anymore then No, there's.
Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
One hundred percent of an incentive.
Speaker 4 (01:21:38):
The reason why they were able to jump into the
top ten before the Georgia game was they didn't penalize
them for losing to Ohio State. They rewarded them for
scheduling a tough out of conference game, which is why
they were ahead of Notre Dame because Notre Dame has
you know, they're on an eight game winning streak at
the time, they have a one point loss to Texas
A and M and they have a three point loss
to Miami and they're not in the top ten. But
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Texas with a loss to Florida, as bad as it was,
they weren't punished for it. So at this point, I
think you had to schedule tougher non conference games to
guarantee that there is a nine to three conversation to
be at.
Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
Let's get back into the Texans conversation, because what if
we told you the pressure is off the Texans on
Sunday in Indy. We will discuss that as we get
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It's funny too, is you get the Rockets Tonight eight
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We're gonna talk a little bit more college football here.
In about ten minutes, Shahan.
Speaker 4 (01:24:39):
Jer Roger from CBS Sports joins us gets an update
on the college football playoffs selection process. What we can
see this weekend out in Austin. You can listen to
the game right here on Sports Talk seven ninety and
a couple of other upsets that could pave a way
for Texas to make a run of the college Football Playoff,
plus a little bit of Heisman Trophy talk as well,
because Shahan just was named to the Heisman Trophy ballot.
(01:25:00):
I want to get his thoughts on who should be
the favorite in a year where there does not feel
like a clear cut front runner.
Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
Yeah, this is gonna be one of those where somebody
wins it and you're like, oh them. I mean because
like twenty nineteen, you knew who was winning. You know,
what was it a couple of years ago with you know,
Jayden Daniels, you knew who was winning. I mean most
years you go into it and it's just like, all right,
there's two other guys there, but we all know who's
going to be taking it. It's an invitational at this point.
(01:25:28):
But this is one where I really honestly think we're
going to head into it and it's going to be well, really,
any of them can take it.
Speaker 4 (01:25:33):
I think it should be a two names right now,
should be Jeremiah Love from Notre Dame, where it should
be Diego Poppy for Vanderbilt if both win this weekend
and both think the College Football Playoff, If the award
is supposed to go to the most impactful player and
the best player for their team.
Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
Nobody is more impactful than those two.
Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
All right, let's get into the Texans here a little bit,
because this is a game this weekend where we've talked
about it throughout the show today. I mean, you know,
must wins, you know all of those things that's always
thrown out there, and I know that's a big Matt
Thomas and Ross things, so must win game. But what
if I told you that the pressure is one hundred
percent off the Texans this weekend, that the pressure is
(01:26:10):
completely on Indianapolis on Sunday, I would.
Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
Say you'd be lying, but I will listen to your point.
Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
So, I mean, the point being is that Indianapolis has
lost too of their last three. Texans on a three
game winner right now, all of a sudden, it looked
like the insturmountable lead that the Colts had is starting
to fall back a little bit and started to leak
a little bit. And I mean with the Texans getting CJ.
Stroud back, it just seems like the momentum is completely
on their side heading into this one.
Speaker 4 (01:26:37):
But at the same time, we don't know what the
Texans offense is going to look like with CJ. Stroud
because we haven't seen him in three weeks. We've seen
Davis Mills out there. We could believe that it's going
to get better. We could believe that that relationship with
him and Nico Collins is going to be pointing it.
We could believe that they are going to be able
to run a few more plays that were basically thrown
to the wayside because you had Davis Mills around the show.
(01:26:58):
With Nick Kyley, we also get believe that, Hey, part
of the reason why the Texas have struggled so much
is because CJ.
Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
Stroud has been an issue.
Speaker 4 (01:27:05):
I don't believe that that's gonna happen, and I do
believe that you have an elite defense that can bail
you out of trouble.
Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
But it's at that same point when you.
Speaker 4 (01:27:11):
Talk about some of these rivalries in college football, until
I see it, you're.
Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
Gonna have doubts. And there's a reason to have a doubt.
Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
C J. Stroud in the offense was playing very underwhelming
before he got into the injury protocol. Then you see
Davis Mills come on in. Mills does his job as
a backup. Nothing too flashy, nothing that really is going
to be able to kind of win you on over
and say this is the guy that we're buying a
lot of stock into, but also nothing.
Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
To where you're putting your team in harm's way.
Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
So it's like the pressures on Indianapolis because of they're
on a two game losing streak and Jacksonville is still
winning and Houston is still winning and you start to
face off against them four times in your.
Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
Next next six games.
Speaker 4 (01:27:51):
But on the flip side, the pressure's on Houston in
terms of CJ. Stroud because let's just be real, dude,
until we see him kind of start winning some games,
you can only ask your to do so much.
Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
And this is also too.
Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
You know a Colts team that has really relied on
Jonathan Taylor, and for good reason, he's been really good.
But also too, I mean, this is a team that
two of their three losses this season have one constant.
Daniel Jones has not been good. Two interceptions in the
loss at the Rams in September and in three against
the Steelers in a game they lost about three weeks
(01:28:22):
ago out there in Pittsburgh, and both of those games
they fell twenty seven to twenty.
Speaker 4 (01:28:26):
I'll go a little bit further, they've given up eleven
sacks of the month of November. Their offensive line is
starting to reel a little bit. That's not the recipe
you want if you're Indianapolis going up against Will Anderson
and Neil Hunter.
Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
I mean, especially two guys that were just on fire
last week and the eight sacks you had. I mean,
I don't think you can you know, look at this
Texans defense as good as they are and expect for
eight again. I mean, that's just an uncanny performance. It
almost got to a point where it was like, do
you maybe want to, like, you know, I don't know,
have your better running back in terms of pass pro
in there, or I don't know, maybe even have another
(01:29:00):
tight end in there to kind of chip somebody.
Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
At this point, it wasn't gonna matter, though.
Speaker 4 (01:29:04):
I think at this point just that's who Buffalo is
a is an offensive personnel like and that's how good
your defense is. You can put anybody out there and
Danil Hunter and Will and Anderson Junior are gonna kill him.
Speaker 6 (01:29:14):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
And that's the thing too, is I mean, I think
you look at this game and you know, again, can
you can you count on that type of sack production?
Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
Can you count on three turnovers in this one.
Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
I'm willing to go on on the the turnovers part
of it. I think I think that absolutely they're they're
gettable in that regard.
Speaker 4 (01:29:31):
Let me set the over under right now, five and
a half sacks, you're taking the over the under of
this take the under in that one. What about two
and a half turnovers? I will take the over, so
you won't take the over in the turnovers. I flip it.
I think that they will get six sacks. I think
they will get one turnover. That's the way that I
view it. I think that you are going.
Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
To continue to see Will Anderson Junior and Danil Hunter
have a career year.
Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
It just feels like, at least for what we can
expect from the defense, that you believe that they can
be even more productive than what we can expect out
of the offense. The offense, again, we're setting the bar
pretty low for them. Twenty twenty four points. You're just
looking at them almost you know. The comparison to baseball
is with the Astros. Hey, you score four runs, We're
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winning this game. But why was that scoring four runs
for the Texans?
Speaker 4 (01:30:15):
Why would we say at this point that we have
to put the bar any higher for the Texans, at
least offensively.
Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
I haven't seen enough.
Speaker 4 (01:30:22):
And again, you're bringing back a quarterback who hasn't played
in three weeks. He's gonna have to shake off a
little bit of rust. You also got to be able
to build that rapport in the passing attack. And it's
not just with Nico Collins. It's back with Jalen Nole
and Jayden Higgins. And now you got the Dalton Scholtz
in the mix, and then you got Winnie Marks out
of the backfield. And yeah, they're gonna make some plays.
But I look at this more so of until you
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give me a reason to start believing that this offense
has truly.
Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
Turned the corner.
Speaker 4 (01:30:46):
I'm begging on my defense to bail me out of
trouble ten times out of ten.
Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
And that's the thing. I just I think that you
can count on the defense to give you that. You
can't count on the offense to give you that. No,
But at the same time, why would you right now?
Speaker 4 (01:30:58):
I don't even care if you can on the offense
in this game, because of again, you have a quarterback
coming off of nearly three weeks of not playing almost
a month. We're being completely honest, We're at a level
of where now I'm saying, this is the game to
where you can shake off the russ because your defense
going up against Jonathan Taylor, you shut him down, You
force Danny Dimes at the beach. You He's not going
to I can promise you the version that we're seeing
(01:31:21):
right now is the version of Daniel Jones that we're
gonna get the rest of the year. It's gonna be regression.
They're gonna regret trading away those two first round picks.
So this is one of where your defense can bail
you out of trouble.
Speaker 3 (01:31:31):
But I need to see CJ.
Speaker 4 (01:31:33):
Stroud knock off all that rust before Sunday Night next
week when they face off against Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
Plus, he's one.
Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
Bad haircut away from looking like Lloyd Christmas from Dumb
and Dumber.
Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
Daniel Jones.
Speaker 4 (01:31:41):
Yes, I've never even I haven't even seen Wes hair
looks like. I mean, he's got the typical week quarterback herecut.
Speaker 3 (01:31:49):
Will Anderson Junior knock on a tooth that way just
goes in.
Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
As there you go, you know, get the gap in
there a little bit, just like like Lloyd had you
know where the beer flows like wine and the women
the same in a capistrano.
Speaker 3 (01:32:02):
Yes, I'm sorry, I know it's a call classic. That's
my least favorite Jim Carrey movie. Why don't you go
and turn your microphone on and hop out for you?
Go ahead and do that. I'll stand on my ground here.
Speaker 4 (01:32:11):
I think it's an overrated movie and it who lives
up to the title of being called dumb and dumber.
It's a dumb movie that's made for dumb people. Well
that's the whole thing, man, It's not supposed to be
like what do you want? You know, the crying game here. No,
the mask I think is funny. I think Asventur is
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
No, I don't need the bubblegum pop versions of these
movies that were just box office just hey, he's hot
right now, let's throw him out there.
Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
The mask was made before you saw what's before Dumb
and Dumber?
Speaker 4 (01:32:41):
Was it before Dumb and Dumber? I knew that that
Ace Ventura got everything going. No, as Ventur was one
of the big ones. And again I'm not saying that
you can go with Bruce al Mighty like I'd say
that absolutely you could say.
Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
The Bruce Almighty was, Hey, this is for the families.
This is a cute movie.
Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
Okay, so what's the best Jim Carrey movie out there?
Dumb and dumber. No, it's like it's it's still good,
but liar.
Speaker 4 (01:33:02):
Liar is far and away with the improvisation for the
physical Comedy is way better.
Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
I was gonna say, I mean that was that was
when Jim was in his bag for the physical physical comedy.
But I mean, at least, you know, with with Daniel
Jones too, you know, we're hoping that maybe he has
one of those bad performances, like I mean, they weren't all,
you know, great masterpieces, so.
Speaker 4 (01:33:23):
You want him to be basically Jim Carrey and the Majestic.
There we go, that's a pretty good movie. That's terrible
that nobody understands what it is.
Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
It was like him like trying to be serious, but
it's like, eh, not really, I'm not really sure we
see you that way right now, Jim.
Speaker 4 (01:33:36):
I'd rather see Daniel Jones beat me because of that
means that I shut down Jonathan Taylor. And if you
shut down Jonathan Taylor ninety nine point nine percent of
the time, you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (01:33:43):
Want to, Nah, I can't. I can't live in a
world where Daniel Jones he's not gonna beat you though.
Speaker 4 (01:33:47):
Dan, That's the point is that if you slow down
Jonathan Taylor and forced Daniel Jones to beat you, either
that shows that you are not meant to be in
the playoff conversation to begin with, or somehow, some way,
Daniel Jones decided to go ahead and choose violence for
the holiday season.
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Speaker 4 (01:35:31):
Shahan Jerraja from CBS Sports showns us live right here
on the Morning Drive, and Shahan, I'm gonna let you
go run rampant. We know Texas needs to win on
Friday to at least have a shot.
Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
To go to the college football Playoff.
Speaker 4 (01:35:43):
After watching Michigan jump Texas in the rankings last night,
what is the pathway for the Longhorns to still find
a way in at nine to three.
Speaker 5 (01:35:53):
To be honest, I don't know if it's there.
Speaker 18 (01:35:55):
I think they're gonna need a lot of help ahead
of them. Obviously, they have a huge opportunity this weekend
going against the Tech A and M team that's number
three and undefeated. But you mentioned Michigan jumping in front.
I mean, Michigan played Maryland last week. There's not really
a good reason that they would have. So I think
that that's the committee kind of telling us they don't
view Texas as a playoff caliber team. And when you
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look at the path ahead of them, right, I mean,
you've got teams like byu Is still on the outside.
They're gonna likely be eleven to one after this weekend
and play for a conference championship. You've still got Miami ahead,
You've still got Utah ahead, Like there are multiple teams
at this point that they would have to jump to
even have a chance to get in. So I think
the Texas in a really rough spot and more than
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just the third loss. Everybody's going to fixate on the
third loss. It's the way that those Georgia and Florida
losses happened.
Speaker 2 (01:36:45):
Sean, do you feel like that this game on Friday
in Austin, that people are looking at it the wrong way?
I mean that it's not about Texas's path, it's about
I mean how much A and M could dominate this game.
Speaker 3 (01:37:00):
Well, I think.
Speaker 18 (01:37:01):
What's interesting is this, right, is that Texas right now
in this state is the signature program in the States.
And you know, they've been to the National Semis each
of the past two years they've been They want a
Big twelve championship back in twenty twenty three, they made
an SEC championship game in twenty twenty four. They even
started the year number one in the preseason AP Top
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twenty five. This has been a run that has been
dominated by Texas over the past couple of years. This
is the moment where that's tied. Either changes or it doesn't,
because look, if TEXAAMM loses this game and makes the playoffs,
Texas still that team, right, Texas is still the big
bad guy kind of waiting in the corner. Even in
a disappointing season. Even in the best season that Texa
(01:37:45):
A and M has had, I mean obviously in the
twenty first century, and you probably can go way further
back than that, Texas still has their number. So I
think that this is so much of a game that's
a prove it moment for Texas A and M that
you know what look like the reality is like text
A M. Yes, they have had an easier path than
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a lot of these other teams to get to eleven
and zero. Since that Notre Dame game, they've managed things well.
They've had to have that comeback against South Carolina. This
is the moment where you kind of figure out is
Texas A and M A having a really nice season
or are they a really dangerous program under Mike Elko
if they come out Because this is a mental game
much more than it is a physical game. When you
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look at the matchups of this game. I mean, I
think that text A and M, their receivers are going
to cause huge issues for Texas. Their pass is going
to cause huge issues for Texas. But it's not really
about that. I think it's really more than anything else
about proving to themselves that they have what it takes
to be one of these signature programs in college football.
So I think that this is kind of the moment
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where AMM thinks or swims and yeah, I do think
that obviously. You know, look, Texas is the big brand,
Texas has the big name. Texas was pre season number one.
They're trying to figure out if they can get into
the fields, which again I don't know that they can.
But to me, this aim is about and improving that
they deserve to be on that national stage and that
they can contemper for a national championship.
Speaker 4 (01:39:05):
He is Sean Jiraja. Give him a follow on Twitter
at Shahan Jerraja. Sean, I want to focus on on
Texas a little bit more because you talk about arch Manning.
The preseason expectations were through the roof.
Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
That wasn't by you, that wasn't by me, that wasn't
by people who actually loved college football. That was by narratives.
Speaker 4 (01:39:20):
But the way that he's played over the last month,
it does feel like he is starting to adapt to
what is college football. With a win on Friday, even
if they don't go to the College Football Playoff, that's
a good sign going into the offseason. About, Hey, we
fix a few things, we had three top ten wins,
we can get right back in the hunt to win
a national title because the way that sixteen is playing,
that's the version that we intended to see when we
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broke camp earlier in fall.
Speaker 15 (01:39:46):
No, I totally agree.
Speaker 18 (01:39:47):
And look, I mean I think that I think that
people sort of underrate how difficult it is to step
in and be great right.
Speaker 6 (01:39:55):
Away in college football.
Speaker 18 (01:39:56):
Like, it just doesn't happen all that often. We remember
the times that it right, We remember Bryce Young coming
in and immediately being awesome, We remember Jameis Winston coming
in as a red shirt freshman and immediately being awesome.
Speaker 6 (01:40:08):
But like, it doesn't.
Speaker 15 (01:40:10):
Usually work like that.
Speaker 18 (01:40:11):
And I think that, you know, certainly there are things
that are within artist control in the first out of
the season that I think could have gone better. I mean,
we talked about a lot right his mechanically, he was
having some struggles. I think that he was big game
hunting a little bit too much looking for those deep
ball passes, especially at a time when Texas just one
didn't have the receivers to make that happen, and two
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wasn't blocking well enough to make that happen. And I
think that where you've seen him grow the most over
you know, especially the past five or six weeks, is
I think that he's learned to take what's there at
a higher level. And I think you see him getting
more comfortable with saying look, man like, like if my
eight up for this game has to be five yards
in attempt, like, that's fine, that's what we need to win.
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You look through the first couple of weeks of the year,
I mean, his average depth of target on his passes
was like over eleven, which for a team that again
was having major issues with protection, just puts you in
a really bad spot and prevents you from getting any rhythm.
So I think that he's playing at a very high
level right now. I think that he's figuring out what
he can and can't.
Speaker 15 (01:41:12):
Get away with.
Speaker 18 (01:41:13):
And like you said, I mean when you start thinking
about him for twenty twenty six and what this team
can be, like, I think that this is a helpful
moment for them. Now, they still have a lot of
work to do, especially you talk about that offensive line
still major issues there. I mean, again, I think that
Techa and m is going to really really run rough shot.
Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
On this unit.
Speaker 18 (01:41:31):
So they've got some things to figure out at Texas,
but I don't think the quarterback is one of them.
Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
Sehan, I'm not putting this on Steve sarkise and like
he needs to watch over his back.
Speaker 3 (01:41:40):
But playoff, no playoffs this year.
Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
It seems like that next year the expectations are going
to be even higher for him with all of the
pressure that's already built in there in Austin. But also too,
you've got Texas Tech going to the College Football Playoff,
maybe even SMU other schools that are going to go there.
What can we be looking for or what can we
be looking at out of Steve Sarkisian in twenty twenty six?
Speaker 18 (01:42:06):
Yeah you mentioned, I mean there is a realistic possibility
that there are four Texas teams in the College football
Playoffs and none of them is the University of Texas,
which is just a crazy thing to think about. So,
you know, look, I think that certainly, let's start with this.
Steve Sarkisian has earned himself a mulligan, right, has earned
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himself a down season. And then again, like even when
you talk about down seasons, like you know, he's gonna
win eight or nine games, it's not that bad, but
this is clearly a disappointing season. I mean, Steve Serkisen
can look us in the face and say, well, just
wanting according to everybody. Man, you know that this is
a playoff caliber program. You know that this is the
championship caliber program, and certainly you can't look at what
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they've done this year and say that it's good enough.
So I think that there's a couple things to look
at right one. I mean, I think that they really
have to figure out what's going on on the offensive line.
You know, whether it's a development issue, whether it's a
coaching is, whether it's you know, just kind of a
wrong pieces in the wrong place issue, whether they need
to hit the portal. They have to figure that out.
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I mean, they had that first recruiting class that came
in where they obviously, you know, really leveraged nil before
everybody else did and brought in one of the great
offensive line recruiting.
Speaker 3 (01:43:16):
Class of all time.
Speaker 18 (01:43:17):
But those guys are starting to age out and you're
seeing that they haven't replaced since then, So they've got
to figure that piece of it out. I think that also, look,
I mean, I've been an advocate that that I think
that see CIRCUSIULD really benefit from having a true offensive coordinator. Now, look,
you can still be involved in play calls, you can
still have moments where you have a lot of influence.
(01:43:38):
But I think as a head coach, like I think
back to that on sides kick that Georgia had, and like,
of course the head coach wasn't thinking about that, he
was thinking about what play he was going to call next, right, Like,
It's just a different type of workflow when you don't
have to worry about the nuances of winning an individual
chess move and can think about the big picture. I
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think that that's something that you know, at least he
needs to evaluate. It doesn't mean that he has to
do it, but I think he.
Speaker 15 (01:44:04):
Should evaluate it at least.
Speaker 18 (01:44:06):
And like you said, I mean, this is a program
that has invested at a very high level. And the
funny thing about it, right, Texas has a number one
recruiting class in twenty twenty five for the first time
in the modern recruiting era. They have, of course arch Manning,
the most highly touted quarterback maybe in the you know,
the history of college football in some ways, and look
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around college football right now, there are a lot of
programs that and a lot of coaches who have run
into big trouble because they bet.
Speaker 3 (01:44:36):
On a huge star.
Speaker 18 (01:44:39):
I'm thinking about James Franklin at you know, with Drew
Aller right, like they put a lot into that. I'm
thinking about LSU and Brian Kelly with the amount that
they invested to bring back Garrett and Asmeier like. I
think that the blessing of being able to maintain and
bring in some of these guys is also a curse
of expectations. Well, when there is so much literal money
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being put into a program year over year, the bar
changes for what you need to accomplish. Steve Sarkisian can
certainly survive this one, but twenty twenty six they got
to go back to looking like the last two years.
Speaker 3 (01:45:12):
Shahan.
Speaker 4 (01:45:12):
Let's go to a big picture scenario here when it
comes to college football playoff because not everything is set
in stone. And you brought this up a couple times
in the past byu status. They go eleven in one,
you go face off against Texas Tech and Arlington. They
beat Texas Tech in Arlington. Well, you're not leaving Texas
Tech out because they have the head to head win
during the regular season, but BYU is guaranteed a spot
in the College Football playoff. And then we have the
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argument of what's to do with Notre Dame, what to
do with Miami. Miami isn't playing as good as Notre Dame,
but they have the head to head win. If this
were to be the case where somehow Alabama loses in
the SEC title game and BYU win the Big Twelve
title game, is the easy solution to kick out Notre
Dame or to kick out Alabama.
Speaker 3 (01:45:53):
It's a lot of team like Texas Tech stay in
the playoff race.
Speaker 18 (01:45:56):
No, it's a good question, And I mean, what's the
intro thinking about this committee especially and about sort of
the results that we've gotten to this point, is that
like they seem to be kind of just leaning on
which teams they think are best, right, like to put
it simply, and even though Notre Dame, I mean, frankly
has zero signature wins, I mean their best win is
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is USC who you know, is fine, Like they are
just like well, but they're beating up all the bad
teams by a law, They're beating SYRACU seventy to seven.
And we seem to like that you know, Alabama, for example,
they had four straight ranked victories in the middle of
the season, and still they're behind Notre Dame DYU.
Speaker 12 (01:46:35):
Who you mentioned.
Speaker 18 (01:46:36):
I mean, they're treated like they're a two loss team.
I don't understand why that is. I mean, they have
a strength of schedule per ESPN that rates higher than
both Notre Dame and Oldness and one fewer loss. They're
not treated like that. So, I mean, this committee seems
to really love Notre Dame for whatever reason it is.
But you know, you also don't want to set the
president that if you lose a conference championship game that
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you know that you get knocked out of the field.
We saw it with the with the SMU last year.
Of course they lose and they still keep them ahead
of Alabama, And so I mean, I really, you know,
don't necessarily have a great feel of what would happen
if we ended up in that situation. Now, look, if
if Alabama loses close, I think that they just can't
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they can't kick.
Speaker 3 (01:47:22):
Them out again.
Speaker 18 (01:47:23):
It would be such a terrible precedent. But then again,
you start getting into the you know, the the Notre
Dame of it all, and you know, again in this scenario,
BYU is a bid Steeler. I don't think they should
be a Steeler, but in this scenario they would be.
Like I feel like the committee might be forced to
have a reckoning on Notre Dame because I don't think
that you can realistically sit here and try to knock
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any of those other teams out because they played in
the postseason.
Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
Shahanjay Rajah again CBS Sports. Join us here on the
Morning Drive. Shehan, have a great Thanksgiving and enjoy the
coverage this weekend.
Speaker 18 (01:47:57):
Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
Thanks so much for having me all rightpreciate it again.
So we've covered a lot on college football. Do have
one more on that one that we can carry over
because I've told you exactly what the college Football Playoff
Committee is, and it looks like they are playing it
to a t right now.
Speaker 3 (01:48:13):
So we'll have that.
Speaker 2 (01:48:14):
Brad, I know you want to get on the get
in on the astros, so we'll let you do that.
You want to join them seven one three two on
two five seven ninety against seven one three two on
two five seven ninety. So the Morning Drive with Danna
Cole right here, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 7 (01:48:28):
This is the Sports Talk seven ninety Morning Show, Brad,
Good morning, Good.
Speaker 19 (01:48:37):
Morning, Hey Cole. Congrats on your regular no more filling guy. Anyway,
not much has been said about it, but it borderlines
the Mavericks trading Luka Doncic. I'm sorry, Mauricio Dubon. I mean,
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you want to get rid of them for certain reasons,
but who you got in return is really disgusting to me.
You got somebody that can hit, so you can never
pinch hit him in the later latter innings, So you
took that away, the most valuable utility man probably in
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all baseball. You could have at least got a pitcher
in the minor leagues, or maybe even two.
Speaker 9 (01:49:27):
He could have.
Speaker 19 (01:49:27):
Called every team in Major League Baseball and gone down
the line and picked out maybe a pitcher or two,
and I guarantee somebody.
Speaker 3 (01:49:37):
Would have given him.
Speaker 19 (01:49:38):
I don't know why he went to his old team,
the Atlanta Brays. Took the easy way out. This player
is supposed to be a wizard defensively, but got no
offense at all. I mean, I just don't.
Speaker 15 (01:49:54):
Get the Astros.
Speaker 19 (01:49:56):
They want to buy everybody at the trade deadline sort of,
and then when the new season starts, they want to
cut payroll, and a five million dollar guy is not
a twenty million dollar guy. That's not much payroll to cut.
I just don't get the whole trade. It makes me
scratch my head.
Speaker 3 (01:50:16):
Brad.
Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
One of the guys that you mentioned was a generational player.
Mauricio Dubon was a utility guy. I appreciate how much
you love the guy. I appreciate how much we all
love the guy. But there's no comparison there, Brad. I mean,
we're talking about a guy that's easily replaceable.
Speaker 14 (01:50:33):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:50:33):
I understand what he gives you goal glove defense, but
I just don't I don't see the comparison.
Speaker 19 (01:50:39):
I'm sorry, my man, he's not gonna hit this guy
they got. I mean, why couldn't you got a picture
you needed a picture, get a minor league stud picture
from one of the teams.
Speaker 3 (01:50:51):
That that part's fair.
Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
I mean, you know, you're talking about what you got
back in return, but you also have to remember why
this deal was made. And I mean they made this
deal because they're trying to shed salary, and I mean
that's that's the main reason. And it's also too I mean,
I think you look at as a utility player, well,
I can find that guy, and I think that they
believe that they can, and they believe they will.
Speaker 4 (01:51:16):
Brad, I gotta ask you, out of curiosity, what part
of Houston.
Speaker 3 (01:51:18):
Are you in?
Speaker 5 (01:51:21):
Oh?
Speaker 19 (01:51:22):
Well, right now, I'm just bodying my time in southwest Houston.
But I bought some land in Cleveland, Texas.
Speaker 3 (01:51:31):
Do you know the sugar Land area pretty well?
Speaker 12 (01:51:34):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (01:51:35):
Yeah, okay, Street.
Speaker 4 (01:51:36):
I think what you should do is you should call
Nick Allen, the guy who the Astro's gotten the Marisa
Dubond deal, and show him some apartment complexes and some
facilities around there, because I think that most of the
time that he's gonna be spending in the Astros organization
will be a Constellation fielder, won't be at Diking Park.
Speaker 19 (01:51:51):
Oh well, that sounds a little better. That sounds a lot.
In fact, trading Dubon for nothing is better other than
getting this guy on the forty man roster. He doesn't
even belong there. He's taking the place of one of
the tria A minor leaguers that probably belongs there. I
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just I just don't get it, man.
Speaker 3 (01:52:13):
I know you're not looking.
Speaker 19 (01:52:16):
As much high value as I am a Dubond, but
he was as close to a starter as anybody. This
guy they're getting, he said, he's gonna maybe play one
inning here or one aning there.
Speaker 6 (01:52:32):
He's nothing.
Speaker 19 (01:52:33):
Man. Anyway, you guys have a heavy thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (01:52:37):
Same to you, Brad. Appreciate it, buddy.
Speaker 2 (01:52:38):
I mean, you know, you're talking about twenty six men
on the roster at a certain points. And look, here's
the other thing too for all to talk about. Zach Deznzo.
I mean, is Zach Dezenzo a guy that kind of
becomes the Mauricio Dubon for.
Speaker 4 (01:52:49):
You now, Zach Desnzo I believe will not be on
the rosters at opening Dame. Oh, that he's part of
one of these deals. That is where my brain goes. Okay,
that's fair.
Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
It just again, I mean, you know, looking at you know, hey,
you're getting ready to your utility guys. I mean I
understood with your reeas at first, because it was you
don't need two of them, You only need one guy
that can be able to fill that role and do
bonds one of those guys, and you've got others that
can platoon here and there.
Speaker 4 (01:53:14):
If you're cutting both though, to me, it either means
one of two things. Either you believe that Bryce Matthews
can be a guy that plays everywhere, and you're gonna
try him in the outfield just a little bit, or
you are going to see them make a trade for
a bigger name that is a utility player.
Speaker 2 (01:53:28):
All right, So do you want to get back into
the Colts in Texans Conversation? Obviously, we didn't have time
to get to the college football playoff one, so we'll
squeeze that one in the nine o'clock hour. But we
got Mike Chappell Fox fifty nine up there in Indy
hopping on with us for a few minutes, and we'll
get a look at the Colts right here on the
Morning Drive with Dan and Cole. Right here, Sports Talk
(01:53:51):
seven ninety age down. The Morning Drive continues. Now now
here's Dan.
Speaker 3 (01:53:59):
And Cole talk some Colts with Mike Chappell.
Speaker 2 (01:54:04):
Been covering the Colts since nineteen eighty four, now doing
it with Fox fifty nine and CBS four up there
in Indy. Mike, appreciate the time. Hey, one of the
big topics we've been talking about this morning is, you know,
who's the pressure on for this one? Do you feel
like that maybe the Colts could come into this game,
feeling like the pressure is more on them given the
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way the last three weeks have gone for them and
how it has for the Texans.
Speaker 14 (01:54:30):
Well they should. But then if I'm if I'm Houston
getting a sixth loss this early or not this early,
I remember last year of the season wouldn't be good,
but the Colts had to get things figured out. They
just do lost two out of three and it's been
the same issue they're having trouble with keeping Daniel Jones clean.
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I guess he wasn't sacked last week with the pressure
got two am when you got er addict. I would
still say it's more on Houston just because of their
ozering three start when you can starting three. These these
guys have done that for a while and it just
it limits your ability to have mess ups later. So
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I still think this is more more of a upper
case must win for Houston. But I think this is
pretty much win for the Colts because they go to
Jacksonville next week. I have not won there like in
ten years, so and you never know what you're getting
with Jet with the Jaguars. So I think more on Houston,
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but this is one the Colts need to get seriously, Mike,
what do you.
Speaker 4 (01:55:43):
Think is the kind of the fault right now when
it comes to Colts offense. Is it the offensive line
because they give seven sacks against Atlanta in Berlin, they
go five against Pittsburgh. Or is it Daniel Jones maybe
rushing through the plays and not being able to find
a consistent identity in the passing attack, which is the
one that you feel maybe is hindering the success Indianapolis
over the last few weeks.
Speaker 14 (01:56:02):
Well, it's probably started with. Now I got to where
I've quit saying offensive line, I'm saying pass protection because
there have been blitzes and the running backs Jeff Tators
missed a couple, and so it's the pass protection that
started there. And then once the protection starts to get leaky,
then I think any quarterback starts starts anticipating or saying
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I have less time. I think it has started with
the protection, and then I think to some degree, he's
allowed that to bother him. And you know, and as
good as this offense has been and can be, it's
only that way if if the quarterback is completing seventy
percent and getting the ball where it used to be
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a converting third down in the last three weeks now
it's not been the case. I put it more on
the protection and then Jones is a close second.
Speaker 2 (01:56:57):
And again you know, Mike Chappill join us here, Fox
fifty nine and CBS four up there in Indianapolis. I mean,
along those same lines, you know that the Texans are
gonna try to take away Jonathan Taylor, But do you
feel like he can still be able to be productive
enough to help the Colts win this game? Or if
it comes down to Daniel Jones going up against this
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Texans defensive front, that he can even be somebody that
can help him out.
Speaker 14 (01:57:23):
I don't think they can win throwing the ball forty
forty five times. I just don't. And yeah, I think
it's easier to take a running back away. But having
said that, if you've got in my mind, the best
running back in the league and a good offensive line,
then even when somebody's trying to take it away, Doug Gonna,
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you need to be good enough.
Speaker 5 (01:57:48):
You know.
Speaker 14 (01:57:48):
I remember things Peyton Manning used to tell us all
the time still stick with me. And he hated to
run bad plays. He gets to the line and he
knew the play wasn't gonna work. Well, why run it
because he only gets you know, sixty some plays in
the game. But at some point you need to run.
You need you need to be able to run enough
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to where it's not thirteen carries for forty yards and
then you're playing right into Houston strength again. I don't
think they can they can win with Daniel Jones just
flinging the bottle over all over Lucas oil. They've got
to run enough and whatever that is. I don't know
whether it's yards for a timp, whether it's a temps,
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but if you've got a top five running game, you
should be able to run good enough when somebody is
not going to let you run. They've got to find
some way to keep Jonathan Taylor involved in the run game.
Speaker 4 (01:58:49):
When you look at the positioning for the passing attack,
that's been a strength of the Texans all year. But
you're getting back Jinglen Peach potentially this week. Can you
talk about the matchup of Tyler Warren. He has been
kind of a war path, quietly putting up significant numbers
that allows Indianapolis to feel like that they have a
third weapon. If he gets involved, how much does that
open up the passing game for guys like Allen Piers
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and Michael Pittman Jr.
Speaker 14 (01:59:12):
A bunch because they move him around. Is he's split
out wide? Is he in line tight? Is he in
the back rod as a pullback, which probably makes it
more difficult to keep track of where he is defensively
and covering. He's been Expectations were through the roof for him,
and he's exceeded him. He really has. I think he's
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on pace for right out of a thousand yards. He's
already broke the franchise record for catches by a tight end.
It does open things up because they've got good options
with Michael Pittman and Alec Pearce and Josh Dams and
then you throw in Tyler Warren. So the options are there.
But that's where the protection needs to be strong enough
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to let these you know, options open up and not
do yet to keep in extra people, uh, to protect you.
They love to go and have four and five receivers
out all the time. Well that's hard to do when
you can't protect your quarterback. So but Tyler Warren has
been everything they expected and he's gonna get five or
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six balls a game just because they find they scheme
ways to get him open downfield a lot of times.
Speaker 2 (02:00:25):
A couple more Man's with Mike Chapel again from Fox
fifty nine CBS four up there in Indianapolis talking to the
Colts ahead of the Colts and Texans on Sunday and
Indy defensively, what do you think is going to be
the key for the Colts in this one?
Speaker 14 (02:00:41):
Do Lutch Houston run? And I guess are you guys
expecting Stroud to play? Yes, that seems that seems to
be you know what's going to happen, so and and
you can make him win, make him win games. Uh,
I just think that. And they've got the outside with
with with Dootie Ward and Sauce Gardner, they've got you know,
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in the past, they haven't had anybody to take care
of Nico Collins at all. I still have visions in
running down the middle of the field for whatever it was,
seven or eighty yards for a touchdown that that shouldn't
He's still a quality received, but he's gonna get his.
But with corners that they've got now, they're better prepared
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for this. That's why I say. And then don't let them,
don't let you get the run game going, which you
open things up. So I think they're defensively, they're equipped
to not get gouged in the passing game. And that's
why I still think this comes back to what can
the offense do enough, because to this point, Houston really
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hasn't been able to score a ton. I don't know
that they can win a track meet with the Colts,
I really don't. But I don't think this is going
to be a track meet. This is going to be
a rock fight. I think from the start, just you know,
eliminate the big plays as much as you can, and
then let's let your offense do enough to win it.
Speaker 4 (02:02:07):
Mike at thirty seconds or the last, we know that
Leazi Lotsu has been phenomenal this year in the pass
rushing department. No to Forrest Buckner in this game. Who
on the defensive line needs to dismantle c J.
Speaker 3 (02:02:16):
Strow to be able to go ahead and give it
an advantage to a team like Indianapolis.
Speaker 14 (02:02:21):
They need to get a lot too, and Quitty pay
the edge guys. Lots who is playing really well. The
numbers really don't reflect that with what he's got five
of the six and f sax. But he's played well.
It's really crazy. People say, well, Houston's got this great
pass rush, which you do. You guys have got thirty
three sacks.
Speaker 3 (02:02:38):
Right y?
Speaker 14 (02:02:39):
Yeah, so the coasts, so the coach have thirty three sacks.
It's a perception of Who's is better. Houston's better. The
Colts do it collectively, and they've got they've got a
they've got a collectively swarm CJ straand.
Speaker 2 (02:02:54):
It's gonna be a fun one, no doubt about. It's
in Mike Chaplin know it's gonna be in the building
for that with Fox fifty nine and CBS four up
there in Indy. Mike, really appreciate the time, have a
good coverage on Sunday, and have a happy.
Speaker 3 (02:03:07):
Thanksgiving you too. You guys do well, all right.
Speaker 2 (02:03:11):
Take care again, Mike Chappell again, Fox fifty nine and
CBS four there in Indianapolis. From the Colet side, let's
flip it right back over to the Texans side, because
our Texans insider Aaron Wilson joins us every single week
here on the show.
Speaker 3 (02:03:24):
A special Wednesday visit with Aaron coming up right here.
Speaker 2 (02:03:27):
As we get into the nine o'clock hour in The
Morning Drive with Dan and Cole Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 7 (02:03:33):
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Speaker 1 (02:03:38):
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Speaker 1 (02:03:52):
This is the Morning Drive with Dan and Cole.
Speaker 2 (02:04:00):
Out in San Francisco taking on the Warriors tonight and
eight o'clock Rockets launch bag and be coming your way
for that college football playoff rankings out last night. You
got A and m in at number three, you got
Texas at number sixteen, and he got Texas Tech at
number five. Still trying to get a hold of Aaron Wilson,
So while we wait on him, let's squeeze in Adrian
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really quick.
Speaker 3 (02:04:22):
Adrian, good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 20 (02:04:26):
How are y'all?
Speaker 5 (02:04:26):
Good man?
Speaker 3 (02:04:27):
How are you?
Speaker 20 (02:04:28):
I understand that that guy lives in Indianapolis, but I
know he just didn't call here talking about the good
secondary that they have. Has he been has he not
been watching Texan games this year? Ask anybody what defense
comes to mind when you say defense in the NFL,
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they'll probably tell you Denver, Baltimore, of course, because you
know we're used to them just raking stuff and then Houston.
I don't think I've heard anybody say Indianapolis all season,
so this is gonna be fun. They just treated the
MVP like he.
Speaker 1 (02:05:05):
Was a rag doll.
Speaker 20 (02:05:07):
Daniel Jones, your running back is gonna have to save
your life this week, and we're probably not gonna let
you because these boys are hungry. And if you're listening
to stephen A, they are vicious. That's a word right
there that's not used in.
Speaker 9 (02:05:24):
Football in a long time.
Speaker 6 (02:05:27):
Vicious.
Speaker 20 (02:05:28):
Remember that this weekend, I've already got popcorn, Pitt's already going,
and I've already got my medicine for the weekend. Daniel,
I'll be smoking for your headache, brother in America. Remember
this is the cheapest turkey we had to fiden.
Speaker 3 (02:05:46):
There you go, Adrian, appreciate it, buddy always.
Speaker 2 (02:05:49):
He's always got plenty to be able to hop on
with us about, but we got plenty of more to
be able to cover, especially on the Texans side. With
our Texans insider here that sports to talk seven ninety
Aaron Wilson joining us here on the morning Drive. And Aaron,
let's just get right to it. This afternoon of practice.
Do we see number seven jogging out onto the field and.
Speaker 3 (02:06:11):
Going through work.
Speaker 6 (02:06:13):
Yes, indeed number seven scheduled to practice, and then.
Speaker 3 (02:06:18):
The same with Jalen Petrie.
Speaker 6 (02:06:20):
That is the expectation, and neither is cleared yet. The
hope is still that they will be cleared. There's plenty
of time for them to get cleared when the concussion
protocole works. It just time worked against them last week.
And you know, the concussions were pretty pretty tough ones
for both guys. Both guys had some difficult symptoms. CJ
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had since Stivy de light and headaches and Jalen had headaches.
His was like on the last play that he played
in against the Broncos, so it didn't really get any
attention at all. And then the next day he complained
of symptoms and then check them out and the terminated
a concussion. But both guys are doing well and the
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hope is I don't know if they'll technically clear them today.
It could be tomorrow when they have another practice, and
I would imagine by Friday it's all, you know, sort
of official that the guys are back and cleared for
the Colts game. It could take it could be faster,
but it could also be longer. Because there's been a
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gap between the practices obviously with the time all from
the time of the Thursday game.
Speaker 3 (02:07:32):
Aaron won pressure last week one soccer for loss, zero sacks,
ariontai Or Story at left tackle, Titus Howard at left guard,
Jake Andrews at center.
Speaker 4 (02:07:40):
You throw in Edingram at right a right guard, Trent
Brown at right tackle. Is not the offensive line moving
forward for the Texans the rest of the.
Speaker 6 (02:07:46):
Year, Yes, col it is. And I was talking with
Titus Howard and Ed Ingram where Titus was giving out
five hundred turkeys with Ed last night at the Houston
Texan MCA, and they feel like they really landed on
the best five. And that's the feeling around the team
that this is the group and barring an injury, they're
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going forward with this. And this is also I don't
think it's a coincidence. It's their biggest offensive line, especially
with having Trent Brown out there. I don't know if
he's six' eight three. EIGHTY i think he might be,
taller AND i think he might weigh close to Foreigner.
Prounce he's a big, man he can, Move he's knocking
off the rust and playing some good.
Speaker 2 (02:08:25):
Football Get Aaron Wilson texans inside for us here At
Sports talk seven. Ninety you also see some of his
work WITH kprc two here In. TOWN i mean along
those lines of what you And cole were just talking about,
THERE i, mean does that mean finally the rotations stop
and we're not seeing anything other than that group of
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five you know left over to right tackle?
Speaker 6 (02:08:50):
Right, yeah you, Know, Dan they've experimented quite a. Bit
they've had some. Missteps they've also had injuries that have
affected the ability to have a steady offensive line. Lineup
but this, CONFIGURATION i feel like it works because it
gets your look at the draft pedigree of the, guys
people that have won award things like, that highest rated guys.
(02:09:13):
Traditionally and, yeah it took a lot of. ITERATIONS i
mean The lake And tomlinson there a little bit of
juice scrugs for nine plays city Sal it's been, interesting
to say the least and the goals in the same
all the time to protect the, quarterback and they did
it against The. BILLS i, mean Turn, brown you have
no pressures to joy both so that hasn't happened. Before
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you see he never gets shut, out But trent did,
it and it's a credit to these, Guys but it
does feel a little bit like they kind of just
backed into this situation because it happened due to at
one point At ingram having a knee, brain them having
to move other guys, around and, finally you, know coming
up with this. Through BUT i wouldn't say it's any
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like inspired. Thinking it's a kind of happenstance a. Bit
but regardless of how it, HAPPENED i think it's a good.
Speaker 4 (02:10:06):
Group, Aaron you AND i both know That Dimico ryans
is never going to say we need to force feed
the football into a. Player but you look At Nico
collins's production With Davis mills at The helm eleven, targets fifteen,
targets ten. Targets before The buffalo, game you only have
three targets fifty six. Yards it did feel like that
those two were seeing an eye to eye. Rhythm WITH.
Cj strode coming on back. In do you think it
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is going to be a point of emphasis to force
feed twelve as much as possible going up Against.
Speaker 6 (02:10:30):
Sastgarner, well they wanted to read the whole. Field but you,
know in the past he's either been praised or criticized
for only throwing To Nico, collins and then you know
this season there was a long stretch WHERE i didn't
feel like he was throwing enough To Nico. COLLINS i
do think they will, emphasize let's have a lot of
plays For. Nico and if you go back To CJ's
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history against The colts And, nico albeit not against players
the caliber Of Trevor's warden Saus, gardner he would go
deep against The, colts especially that really BIG i thought
kind of signature game of his rookie season late in
the year to get them into the. PLAYOFFS i don't
think he'll be shy about throwing To, nico and he
likes To, nico AND i would stay With. Davis you,
(02:11:17):
know they were draft brins for a long. Time there's
a real comfort level For. Davis he's just been throwing
passes even more years THAN cj To. Nico but, YEAH
i expect that had to keep that connection. Rolling they need.
To this is their best. Playmaker also knew this exercise
who would start from this offense for the majority of the,
(02:11:39):
teams and the answers comes back To Nico. Collins that
kind of says it. All that you, know he's the
guy who needs to throw the ball.
Speaker 2 (02:11:46):
To Aaron wilson again join us here on the morning.
Drive And aaron was in the locker room with you
the other day when you Asked kamari last. Year we
played the answer yesterday about can this defense still get even?
Better and he almost kind of scoffed at it was, like, oh,
absolutely what would a better part of this defense?
Speaker 3 (02:12:03):
Look?
Speaker 6 (02:12:04):
Like you, Know i'm nitpicking a bit, here but you,
know you don't, see you, know sometimes you, KNOW i
think they get good play from, linebacker especially as he's As,
shire and sometimes E jcp will make some big, plays
but you could probably use some more big plays in
the linebackers and defensive tackle. Position defensive tackle was good
this pass, game but there have been other games where
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they were kind of, quiet you, Know LIKE i, Said i'm.
Nitpicking at, Safety Jalen reed had a very good, debut
but he also allowed six catches on six. Targets so,
yeah if you want, to you, know not just be
always glass half. FULL i think you've got to look
at a few of these area and, say, hey that
could be. Better AND i think for the most part
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it's been very GOOD i know they got caught bad
situation The James cook, run but sometimes there just big
plays that shows some. Vulnerability and now they're about to
Play Jonathan. Taylor so there's been some backs that had,
success Including cook this pass. GAME i think they've got to,
really you, know tackle. Better there have been some times
when they missed some, tackles including The Tampa bay, game
cost them the. Game so, YEAH i mean even an elite,
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defense top rank all that good stuff have holes in.
It AND i think it's just a good reminder that
you had a really vigilant when it cles of. Defense
you can't ever really relax and rest on your, lurels
AND i don't think they. DO i think, they Like,
camari kind of typified that they are hungry, bunch and
you know that's. Smart that's what you want to. Hear
(02:13:30):
you don't want to hear. Them, yeah, yeah and know
we're the best and you know we're. This, NO i
don't think that's why they're good on. DEFENSE i think
they have some star, players BUT i also think that
they have a good mentality of the swarm mentality That
Samiko ryans, teaches and it's a good. Scheme it's pretty,
basic but players can understand it and they can make it.
Speaker 3 (02:13:50):
Work, Aaron we've been.
Speaker 4 (02:13:52):
Arguing about this a little bit throughout the, morning AND
i want to bring this up to. You on one,
Side indianapolis has lost two. Games they are now start
to fall out of line a little, bit and they
need an overtime win against The Atlanta falcons to keep
that winning. Streak kind of, Intact houston is on a
three game win, streak but they're switching on over TO Cj.
Stroud they have an opportunity to gain some ground in
the division with the, win and if they, lose it's
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a sixth. Loss so in your, opinion who is underneath
more pressure going into this match up At Lucas Oil
stadium On.
Speaker 6 (02:14:21):
Sunday The. Texans they have to lend to keep their
hopes alive in the. Playoffs they can't lose. Ground you
can look at the playoff, standings you already see that
they rank behind The steelers for tie. Breakers they have
no choice really but to keep. Winning there will be
some games later in the, year depending on how it all,
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falls that may not be as pivotal to their playoff.
Outlook but right now they got to keep this going
they need a fourth win in a, row and especially
to do it against The. Colts what will mean for the,
Playoffs it's really. PIVOTAL i think it's gonna be a
tough game to. Win obviously up, there it's A bugasoil, stadium,
dificult loud. Environment but you look at The colts to
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the kind of ordinary of this past, Game it's like
The chiefs have been world beaters all. Year you saw
success from their receivers against The colts. SECONDARY i, MEAN
i don't think that The colts are world. Beaters they
have some really good football. Players they have a strong
overall roster built By Chris. Ballard BUT i think their
head coach is so, Smart Shane. Steichen but this wasn't
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a great game by, them AND i think it maybe
showed some vulnerability for The. Colts, texans, though under the,
pressure The colts have earned the right to coast a little,
bit maybe have a bad game here or. There there's
no margin, prayer not after an known three.
Speaker 2 (02:15:41):
Start he's Our texans insider here At Sports talk seven
ninety also WITH kprc.
Speaker 3 (02:15:46):
Two He's Aaron.
Speaker 2 (02:15:47):
Wilson, Aaron, hey appreciate the your early week visits and
we'll go back to our Normal friday next.
Speaker 3 (02:15:53):
Week have a Happy thanksgiving.
Speaker 6 (02:15:55):
Guys, yeah Happy thanksgiving to both of you. GUYS a great.
Speaker 2 (02:15:59):
Holiday and, yeah real, quick what's the go? To let's
take turkey out of? It what's the go?
Speaker 3 (02:16:05):
TO i like.
Speaker 6 (02:16:07):
Stuffing a mac and. Cheese those are my. FAVORITE i love.
Sides those are my big. Ones also like nice green bean.
Casserole those are really good with the little fried onion
strips on the. Top those are.
Speaker 2 (02:16:20):
Great three solid, answers that's for. Sure it's a sides,
holiday no doubt about. It Aaron wilson, again appreciate, it.
Buddy we'll talk to you next. Week thank, you, guys good,
night all, right see, you. Buddy, yeah it's that's that's
really what it's, about because like it's it's you take
the turkey out of.
Speaker 3 (02:16:34):
It we get.
Speaker 2 (02:16:35):
It it's, there we know. It it's it's the go.
To but it's, like you, know a great steak at
a great. Steakhouse you know that it's going to be
a great, steak but don't you need like the potatoes
out grot and then like all of the other things
to go along with it to make it even. Better
it's the rug that ties the room. Together that's What thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (02:16:51):
Is it's two one now between me And aaron and.
You when it comes to toughing and, dressing, no it's it's.
Speaker 2 (02:16:57):
Stressing it's tough because you two Are yankee carpetbaggers that
don't know how to say it.
Speaker 3 (02:17:00):
Right it's. Fine oh now we got somebody in a
tussle right.
Speaker 2 (02:17:03):
Here that's that's, it you, know that's that's one hundred
percent what it is us us down here in the
southern part of The. States we know how it's supposed
to be. Said and it's. Dressing, NO i don't think
take the g.
Speaker 3 (02:17:14):
OFF i don't THINK i want to, have you, know
a nice little sauce on top of my. Turkey it's no.
Sauce it's just golden, goodness especially if it's The italian.
Speaker 2 (02:17:23):
Dressing dressing you're one of. Those, yeah, ELSE i get.
IT i get it all. Right so let's continue That sexans.
Conversation you want to get in someone three, two, one
two five seven ninety because, well maybe The texans feel
like they've got their offensive line figured, out but does
one person in particular agree what you hear from? Them
as we continue here in the nine o'clock the, hour
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it is The Morning drive With dan And.
Speaker 7 (02:17:46):
Cole Sports talk seven Ninety Dan, Matthews Cole. Thompson this
is The Morning drive With dan And.
Speaker 4 (02:17:56):
Cole we't react afterwards after the. Record it's not that.
HARD i didn't. Mind j's.
Speaker 3 (02:18:02):
Awesome, Alright oh the? Brick, yeah, okay all, right there you.
Speaker 2 (02:18:08):
GO i remember a buddy of mine told a quick
story which by the way to The rockets taking on
The warriors L wes tonight eight O'clock rockets launch pad of,
Course texans back on the practice field getting ready for
The colts On. Sunday buddy of mine told me a
story About Radio row one year when he came up
and introduced himself to them and he, goes, hey, Guys I'M.
Jt The, brick and they're, like, huh like is that
the or The so that's HOW i always REMEMBER.
Speaker 3 (02:18:31):
Jt The. BRICK i, say the people have a very
strong opinion about that.
Speaker 2 (02:18:36):
ONE i, MEAN i don't know If i've ever heard
anybody other than my buddy bringing it up and you
saying it right, There i've ever heard anybody say.
Speaker 3 (02:18:43):
It what do you say the or THE jt the Brick, no, no, no
just in.
Speaker 2 (02:18:46):
General If i'm just If i'm just naturally saying it
the but you, know it's one of those like If
i'm kind of caught on the hard, tea Then i'll
say The.
Speaker 3 (02:18:55):
No that's What i'm. SAYING i say he's the and
people have a problem with.
Speaker 4 (02:18:57):
It nine, time oh soon you know The ohio, state
or you could just say The ohio.
Speaker 3 (02:19:01):
State you know? What seven one, three, two one, two
five seven. Ninety question of the.
Speaker 4 (02:19:04):
Day Is, Planes trains And automobiles A thanksgiving classic because
it's the only movie that you.
Speaker 3 (02:19:11):
See but let's be.
Speaker 4 (02:19:12):
Real you Watch, Plane trades And automobiles at any time
of the. Year you ain't Watching how The Grit Still,
christmas you ain't Watching Home alone In. July you're not
going to talk about The Polar express In. March seven, one,
three two and two five seven. Ninety Playing trains And?
Automobiles those are? Pillows is it A thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (02:19:30):
Classic what a?
Speaker 4 (02:19:32):
Movie if the if the end doesn't get you in the,
fields you don't have. Feels see the ending doesn't get,
me the middle gets.
Speaker 2 (02:19:38):
Me, no the end gets, me because you know when
you see him in there like almost like a sad
dog in the bus. Station he realizes he's got nowhere to.
Go like that that gets you because it's, like, oh
there there's a human in there with with With Steve.
Speaker 3 (02:19:51):
MARTIN i like, that.
Speaker 4 (02:19:52):
OKAY i will, say Like Chris, farley everyone talks about
him as being one of the greatest. Icons we lost
earlier in the two, thousands Losing John canny.
Speaker 3 (02:19:59):
Before sign AND i love.
Speaker 2 (02:20:01):
TOO i, mean you, know because we've got the documentary
on him, too and his kids are still, alive so
they kind of keep his memory. Alive but like you
hear the story About Macaulay culkin had an overbearing dad
and that it Was John candy on set that was, like.
Speaker 3 (02:20:14):
Hey, hey, buddy you, know are you? Okay you, know
like is everything all?
Speaker 2 (02:20:17):
Right like that he supposedly was notorious for like the child.
Actors he looked out for. Them, Dude i'm not gonna lie.
It that is, Like i'm not a big documentary. PERSON
i like me as What i'm gonna actually. Watch, yeah
well for, Sure Larry, steve get you in here in
just a. Second But Tmiko ryans with the in house
media over there At Texans we've been talking to the offensive,
line talking the offensive line and also the versatility they
(02:20:39):
got In Titus.
Speaker 21 (02:20:39):
Howard, yeah, well contain to roll with our offensive. Line for,
me it's always been about trying to get our best
five guys out. There titus has done a great job
just onself as we moving where he's played right, tackle right,
gar left guar or whatever we've asked.
Speaker 3 (02:20:55):
Him you, know he's done.
Speaker 21 (02:20:56):
It it shows that he's a smart player to be
able to handle as much as we put on his.
Plate so he's done that and he's played good for.
Speaker 3 (02:21:04):
Us All i've been asking for the entire, Time cole
is a group of. Five i'm asking for a group of.
Five you don't roll offensive.
Speaker 2 (02:21:12):
Lineman you don't move your rookie left tackle over to right,
tackle because injury is going to dictate that you do
none of those. Things you put him at the, left
you put your left guard, there, center right, guard right,
Tackle roll with, it go with, it live with.
Speaker 3 (02:21:28):
It the beauty is that you can Have Titus. Howard
they'll play four of those. Spots they'll probably do it
at a decent. Level So i'll take.
Speaker 4 (02:21:33):
That like, Again week, one you had to Play Ariante
erthrie out of position because Of Cam, robbins you can
only play left. Tackle he is struggling still to play
left tackle in THE Nfl Cleveland. Shocker it's like he
was always a bad play pick up to begin. With
now you move him back to left tackle at some.
Point Yet Tis howard at right. Tackle but now you
got a question of whatich you do it left? Guard
if you're really good about the right guard, spot you
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have a healthy version In Trent.
Speaker 3 (02:21:55):
Brown hey problem, Solved, LIKE i get.
Speaker 4 (02:21:58):
It BUT i think that for the first Time i'm
probably in his. Tenure i've actually come to Respect Titus
howard for how position with flexibility has allowed The texans
team to be able to play with their decision making
and figure out what is the best course of action for,
Us because let's just be, real, dude we got to KEEP.
Cj stroud up right if we want to win a division.
Speaker 2 (02:22:15):
Title, WELL i mean it's, again it's it's the utility example.
HERE i, MEAN i can win with a utility. PLAYER
i can't win because of a utility. Player So i'll
get him in the spot and find. HIM i will
easily push back on that. One you're winning Because Titus
howard can be a utility. Player because if you can
have that position flexibility and if there is a problem
where you don't have an Ariante, erstrie instead of rolling
Out Blake, fisher that's gonna GET.
Speaker 3 (02:22:36):
Cj stroud.
Speaker 4 (02:22:37):
Killed you can now move handle left tackle and bring
in the juice charderlike In. Tomlinson i'm not saying that
that's the planning you should be hoping for. That i'm
just SAYING i think because of his, utility you feel
really confident that you can.
Speaker 2 (02:22:49):
Win that's good to have, options and it sounds like
they finally have been able to work through some options
through eleven games this season seven, one, three two on
two five seven. Ninety you know we see this name
on the. Board we got to go with A Larry.
Stafford good, Morning.
Speaker 3 (02:23:02):
Larry what's going?
Speaker 4 (02:23:04):
On?
Speaker 5 (02:23:04):
Bulldog? Cold y'all doing all right on This thanksgiving? Eve?
Speaker 3 (02:23:07):
Man just getting the stomach, ready.
Speaker 16 (02:23:09):
Man hey, Man look, here find you a pad of
them stretching pants, man and just let, loose, man because
this is the time the season that everybody just get
full and watch.
Speaker 5 (02:23:19):
Football look here real, quick on The texas offensive. Line you,
know it's like it's LIKE. Nato you gotta have a
group of five that can go into battle and make
sure they take out the. Enemy. Right they finally got it.
RIGHT i didn't Think Trent brown was gonna be able
to be as serviceable as he, is but he has
(02:23:41):
that right side locked down him In, Ingram so that's.
Good so now you Put titus over there By, ursery
who he can help guide through some of the challenges
that the youngster is gonna. Face and now you got
five dudes out, there except for one, exception Get Jake
andrews outside of there and Putting Dereck patterson in there
and let him go ahead and be the center BECAUSE
(02:24:03):
i think he's a lot more physical and stronger Than. Andrews.
Man and then once you do, that the only memo
that The miko needs to send out is THAT. Cj
straut better start sliding head. First do not slide with
your legs, first, man because your head is the.
Speaker 10 (02:24:21):
Last thing that's.
Speaker 5 (02:24:22):
Up if you go head, first then they gotta hit
your back and you can sustain getting hit in the
back versus getting hit in the.
Speaker 3 (02:24:29):
Head.
Speaker 5 (02:24:29):
Man, LOOK i also wanted to talk about the rockets
tonight should be fun because they Play gold And. STATE
i KNOW kd ain't gonna be, there but The rockets
are a fun team to, watch and you're gonna go
through these ebbs and flows like this and challenges and
it makes for a good. SEASON i hated THAT u
And as lost To tennessee, yesterday But i'll tell you,
This Calvin sampson knows exactly what he's doing because these
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kind of losses teach you how to win In, march
and that's what we're looking. For, Finally, fellas last THING
i need to talk about The States. Giving, look everybody's
going to be eating some very very good, FOOD i,
hope but if your ass can't make macaroni and, cheese
don't bring that nest to my house. Mate you better
(02:25:11):
be able to make macaroni and cheese or my family
will curse you. Out there are certain rules to the
game For, thanksgiving and if you are not somebody that
can do what you are supposed to, do you will
get exempt from the. Visit trust me WHEN i tell
you they are rules to this. THING i don't know
how you boys like pumpkin, pie But i'm always those
(02:25:33):
Sweet Potato pie And. Bulldog here's the Black Friday news
for you just wake up and have your old lady
put on a leotard or something made on some stretching
pants and then just sit there and watch it get
dressed in our.
Speaker 3 (02:25:44):
HALLS i, Appreciate.
Speaker 2 (02:25:45):
Larry, Yeah, hey, LOOK i mean there's certain non negotiables
when it comes to The thanksgiving, table and that's just.
Speaker 3 (02:25:52):
It, hey what'd you do to make make?
Speaker 6 (02:25:54):
This?
Speaker 2 (02:25:54):
SO i just got out of a box to get,
out get out off for mac and. Cheese, yeah put
in the, effort that's. Fine stir stir the, cream stir
in the. Cheese do it, all do it. Right i'm
so do it, right or don't do it at.
Speaker 3 (02:26:06):
All, no just do. IT i don't. Care i'm. Me
i'll go the story a craft single maga cheese if need.
Speaker 6 (02:26:12):
BE i.
Speaker 3 (02:26:12):
Don't, okay that's not. ANYMORE i don't have to do that.
Gourmet let's go on a.
Speaker 4 (02:26:16):
Budget i'm fine with. That i'm still not. Over i'm
still not over the fact that. That, larry and appreciate
Always larry for calling on, in. Dude IF i start
YOU a picture Of Jake andrews and a picture Of
jake of A Jarrett patterson held them right out next
to each. Other damn't give you the. Numbers you wouldn't
be able to tell them. APART i, Can, no you can't, there, no, no, no.
No on the, field they are the exact.
Speaker 3 (02:26:36):
Same ones like sixty five and the other ones like my.
Speaker 4 (02:26:39):
Height one is six, three one is six, four one
is three hundred and eight, pounds one is three hundred
and nine.
Speaker 3 (02:26:43):
Pounds oh Maybe i'm taller THAN i.
Speaker 4 (02:26:44):
Thought they are literally the exact same. Person they play
the exact same. Way you're not upgrading from either. One
if you had a blank jersey on, them you couldn't
tell me which was.
Speaker 3 (02:26:54):
WHICH i BET i. Could you. Couldn't nobody could do the.
Test And i'll tell. It you, Know i'll.
Speaker 4 (02:26:59):
Pass you know, what, FINE i will make sure THAT
i go ahead and blank out the. Numbers you tell
me who's playing WHERE i got?
Speaker 2 (02:27:05):
You seven one three two one two five seven ninety
is the number to get. In and, uh this is
actually for the former players out, there because a former
player turn broadcast legend has some advice THAT i totally agree.
Speaker 3 (02:27:18):
With we'll share that.
Speaker 2 (02:27:19):
With you as we continue here on The Morning drive
With Dan matthews And Cole thompson right, Here Sports talk seven.
Speaker 7 (02:27:25):
Ninety, hey it's The Sports talk seven ninety morning.
Speaker 2 (02:27:30):
Show that one three, two one two, five seven ninety
is the. Number we're gonna get THREE nfl games. Tomorrow
you get one On Black, friday and then of course
you get The texans And colts On, sunday along with
the rest of THE nfl slate that's not playing On
sunday night Or monday night this? Week what game are
(02:27:50):
you most excited to see tomorrow? TOMORROW i mean for
The texans playoff. Chances colts And. Chiefs, YEAH i think
That's colts And. Chiefs cowboys And.
Speaker 3 (02:27:58):
Chiefs that's a.
Speaker 4 (02:27:59):
Right, answered just because OF i really want to see
If dallas is actually gonna make a run for the playoff,
now because then we have to Give jerry some, credit
and Then jerry's gonna get too big of an ego
already bigger than it has to.
Speaker 3 (02:28:08):
Be the things we're doing, here they're they're working.
Speaker 4 (02:28:11):
Cold, well, WELL i guess we can go hey and
fix out With, wait wait made the rock?
Speaker 3 (02:28:15):
Coffood now's? COWBOYS i. CAN'T i told you THAT i was.
Speaker 2 (02:28:20):
The one who who architect who was the architect of
that Trade Santa herschel In.
Speaker 4 (02:28:25):
MINNESOTA i can't stand the fact that this is going
to be another year where he gets to look like
the genius because if he Hired Bryan schett himriny trade
Away mike The, parsons that they make the.
Speaker 3 (02:28:33):
PLAYOFF i think we're gonna fall well short of. THAT
i don't, know, dude look at their. Schedule they win,
tomorrow they're a game about five.
Speaker 4 (02:28:41):
Hundred remember they have that tie against Against Green, bay
so that helps their. Schedule actually when it comes to
wins and losses close of the year with games Against,
Minnesota Los, Angeles, Washington New, York, detroit.
Speaker 2 (02:28:54):
AND i guess The eagles aren't necessarily that you know
FAR i, know BUT i, MEAN i guess it's not
like you can't catch, them so that's a. Possibility but
we do know That Iron eagle AND Jj watt gonna
be on the call of the game On sunday for The,
texans Which texans fans have pointed, Out, well it's good for, them,
yeah because you, Know texans are two to zero WHEN
(02:29:15):
Jj watson that. Booth But chris Collins worth, recently talking
about first TIME nfl, broadcasters he has some advice start
off in the, studio don't go directly to the. Booth
he was On The Dan Patrick show On. Tuesday he,
says you've got like five or six different hits during
the course of a. Show you know what you're going
(02:29:36):
to talk going into, it you can research it. Easily
when you do the, game you're starting from scratch every single.
WEEK i gotta agree with that because now we've Seen Tom,
brady who has widely been thought of as after his first,
season which it was a little, rough but this season
he's gotten so much. Better clearly there's been, coaching there's
(02:29:56):
been all of those different. Things but it's going to
take a lot to Get Tom brady out of the,
booth the same as it's gonna go For Tony. Romo
then a lot of people his first, season and this guy's.
Amazing he's predicting, plays, he's you, know just just ahead of.
Everything and then after that we started to Know Tony
romo for his corny dad jokes and making his weird
noises whenever he, Says, jim the hate.
Speaker 3 (02:30:18):
Is so forced On Tony, Romo i'm sorry it.
Speaker 2 (02:30:20):
IS i will agree that it is very Like Joe
buck like, LIKE i almost feel like With joe buck
gets you feel obligated to say that you don't Like
Joe buck and he's annoying and he's A nepo baby
and all those different types of, things which at this,
point can we stop doing that with? Him, like you
wouldn't stick around in the industry for over thirty years if, indeed,
oh you just got the job because of your, dad
(02:30:41):
maybe that's the way you got. In but if you stuck,
around your talent is keeping you.
Speaker 4 (02:30:45):
Around, no he got the job because of his, dad
and he's been able to carve out his own career
where he has become A Delta bravo in his own.
Right SO i, mean, AGAIN i don't mind hating On Joe.
BUCK i think HE'S i don't like him else one of.
BASEBALL i think he's great for. BASEBALL i think he's
terrible in THE.
Speaker 2 (02:30:57):
NFL i think he's JUST i, mean, look baseball was
his sports AND i would have liked for him to
have stayed.
Speaker 3 (02:31:03):
There BUT i, MEAN i don't, no begrudge him for
taking the. Check good for.
Speaker 4 (02:31:07):
Him, No i'm not begrudging him for taking the. Check
But i'm saying at the same, time IF i want
to listen to A Joe buck, GAME i want to
listen to him in. BASEBALL i could give a care
less in the world about him in football.
Speaker 2 (02:31:16):
NOW i, mean there are a few that obviously skirt
past the rule that it's not even a, rule it's
just an idea From, collinsworth and Collins worth's one of
those guys for years on inside THE. NFL i think
he did some stuff WITH nbc and then finally found
his way into the booth With tariko and, look love
more hate, him AND i, know you, know here's the,
guy here's a, guy and all the other. Things he
kind of annoys. PEOPLE i think it's his voice more than.
(02:31:38):
Anything BUT i think his point is. Valid it's more than.
Anything get used to doing. It get used to doing the.
Job when you're in a, studio you've got to think
about a lot, more but you only have to speak
about it in short. Spurts whereas you're getting ready for a,
game you've got your. Notes you can kind of overload
yourself with paralysis by analysis and it becomes more forced
(02:31:59):
than it is. Actually just free flowing with, it Like
Troy aikman's free flowing with. It Greg olsen is free
flowing with. It those guys they know how to prepare for,
games they know what to say when they get, in
when they get.
Speaker 3 (02:32:09):
Out there's an art to.
Speaker 4 (02:32:10):
It but the other thing THAT i will point Out
dan is, that like both of them were known as
locker room, dudes and they were very easy to get along,
with and they were very easy to meet with the
media and have good conversations and dialogue back and. Forth
and that probably propelled them to get into a position
where it felt like they were built to go into
the broadcast booth without having to take a chance at
the network.
Speaker 2 (02:32:30):
Studio there's a couple of different examples THAT i think
would go against BECAUSE i don't know necessarily If Drew
brees was ever thought of that. Way BUT i think
the problem With breeze was is just don't you just
kind of get like a sense of like he's never
one hundred percent on the level with.
Speaker 3 (02:32:44):
You, NO i just feel like he's.
Speaker 2 (02:32:45):
Boring, WELL i mean there's, that BUT i mean it's
also too like there does seem like a little hint of, disingenuinous.
Speaker 16 (02:32:50):
You know WHAT i?
Speaker 3 (02:32:51):
Mean from.
Speaker 4 (02:32:51):
HIM i don't feel the disingenuineness with. Him BUT i
feel is like there's just not a good. Dialogue there's
some people that you just love because of the way
that they play the game of.
Speaker 3 (02:32:59):
FOOTBALL i think.
Speaker 4 (02:33:00):
You have a conversation with them, afterwards and they're a wet.
BLANKET i mean quite.
Speaker 3 (02:33:03):
Literally Adam watcher would enjoy having a great conversation with
them if he.
Speaker 4 (02:33:06):
Could but, then Like jason went was. Mean Jason witten
was the one that really drove me. CRAZY i remember
how many people were He they hyped him up so
much that he was just going to be this KNOWLEDGEABLE
iq guy that would bring great numbers and air to the,
booth and his first time that he had an opportunity
to speak, out dude dry as dry as A Lincoln Riley.
(02:33:26):
BRISKET i, mean that's how bad it was for.
Speaker 2 (02:33:28):
Him, YEAH i, mean and that's the thing is that you,
know of, course there are guys that they get a,
reputation you, know they're great with the media all of,
That but, THEN i, mean, look there's one thing about
actually talking about what you know and then being able to,
entertain because that's what this job is really when it
comes down to, it do you, inform do you Entertain
and if you don't meet either of, those well then
(02:33:48):
you probably not gonna have people who really want to
watch or listen.
Speaker 4 (02:33:51):
To you, See i'll push back on THE Jj watt
thing about having the ability to go work in the
in the booth and then afterwards beforehand working on the
on the game day. Set the dude Hosted Saturday Night
live and was. Hysterical the guy was fantastic in a
couple of movies that he, Did like he was in
That Bad moms movie where he played the like the pe.
Coach like he's got a character about him THAT i
think would easily translate because if he's had opportunities to
(02:34:14):
be in front of the stage.
Speaker 2 (02:34:15):
Before AND i, mean AND i think we knew it here,
too that he's he's a magnanimous.
Speaker 3 (02:34:20):
Guy you, know if we want to use the sat words.
Speaker 4 (02:34:22):
Her funny, like he's he's actually got a couple of
one liars that really make you belly.
Speaker 6 (02:34:26):
Laugh he.
Speaker 2 (02:34:27):
Is AND i, mean you, know he goes on with
McAfee every single week and he's he's great with those.
Guys BUT i, mean but, AGAIN i JUST i think
that there probably was a little bit of he had
a runway to work with before he took off to
go into the. Booth and that's WHY i think you're
seeing him be so comfortable in the. Booth and it's
also TOO i think that partners you, know matters so
(02:34:47):
much Because Iron eagle seems like he is one of
the Like Iron eagle quick story about, him a steel
trap on this. GUY i talked to him once ten
years ago and mentioned something AND i saw him a
few years. Later he's, Like, hey your parents still living
in The Hill. COUNTRY i was, like how would you remember?
That how would you possibly remember?
Speaker 3 (02:35:05):
THAT i think he's one of the best broadcasters in
the game right.
Speaker 6 (02:35:08):
NOW i.
Speaker 4 (02:35:08):
Do and you know WHAT i can appreciate about. Him
he is ONE i could listen to on any single.
Call you could hear him in, FOOTBALL i could hear
him in. BASKETBALL i could hear him do baseball. GAMES
i would love to listen.
Speaker 2 (02:35:18):
To iiny it WAS i think it WAS O koge
or somebody the other night did like a little like
side step to shoot a. Three, Yeah AND i Loved
Iron eagle's call where he goes electric slide.
Speaker 3 (02:35:26):
THREE i was, like, yes, dude he is just he
is one of those guys THAT.
Speaker 4 (02:35:31):
I think is the chameleon of being able to work in,
Broadcasting and you are right part of the reason why
the broadcast is so Good WITH Jj, wiss he has
got a great. Partner and, AGAIN i think that the
charisma of him has always been able to kind of
sell in the public. Eye but when you get somebody
to play off, of Like Iron, eagle it's a it's
a good, pairing it's a good. Understanding they have a
(02:35:52):
really good relationship and it's only going to continue to
grow in. Time they may eventually take on over his
the number one crew When Jim Nansen Tony remol called her, CAREER.
Speaker 2 (02:35:58):
I feel Like burkhart is another guy that can be
easy to work. With In, HARLAN i Mean Harlan's i'm
not A harlan. DUDE i Love, HARLAN i.
Speaker 4 (02:36:08):
Am very But Kevin burkhart, GUY i will Say Kevin
burkhart is another one of those chameleons that and he's
different because it's not baseball and. Football what it is
is it being able to host and then do play
by play.
Speaker 2 (02:36:18):
BECAUSE i feel like with play by play guys, especially
there are the ones, where oh they're very serious you
know all you know their, craft which there's nothing wrong with,
that but it's the guys Like eagle who very. Serious
And i'm not saying that none of these guys, are
but like there's there's there's a little bit of a
comfort factor with them too that you're, LIKE i don't
feel like it's. Forced i'm not being talked, At i'm
(02:36:40):
being talked, to And i'm also just really enjoying the.
Speaker 3 (02:36:44):
Game it's.
Speaker 4 (02:36:44):
Good it's it's a good sidecar with the. Game do
you Think Kevin burkhart calls it stuffing or? Tressing he's
he's A New york, guy so he probably calls it.
STUFFING i want to get your opinion on. It as
a matter of, Fact i'll shoot him at. Text i'll be, like,
hey not for, nothing but is it stuffing or is it?
Speaker 3 (02:36:59):
Dressing? Suffing he probably.
Speaker 4 (02:37:01):
Will he's gonna say, stuffing and he's gonna prove my
point that that's the correct way to say.
Speaker 3 (02:37:04):
It, WELL i, SAY i say. Stuffing what AM i
supposed to say?
Speaker 17 (02:37:07):
It?
Speaker 3 (02:37:07):
As, Oh, burkhart we'll work.
Speaker 4 (02:37:10):
ON i do want to get your thoughts on Some
thanksgiving hot takes before we go away for the.
Speaker 3 (02:37:13):
Break this week here there are some.
Speaker 4 (02:37:14):
Things that are very IMPORTANT i think that you are
allowed to have on the, table and there's one thing
that you're not allowed to have.
Speaker 2 (02:37:19):
Whatsoever and an ode from an old friend that we
all love to the holiday Of. Thanksgiving we've got that
for you right here as it is The Morning drive
With dan And cole right Here Sports talk seven ninety
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Speaker 7 (02:38:39):
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Speaker 3 (02:38:47):
Thanksgiving hot, Takes you had some throw them at.
Speaker 4 (02:38:49):
Me what do you Got if you have cranberry sauce
on your table at, all canned or, homemade it is a.
Joke nobody likes cranberry. Sauce nobody thinks it's, good nobody
wants it. Around you just have to have it because
it's part of the delicacy Of. Thanksgiving, okay that's that's
the hot. Take, No i'm just saying right, now that's
one WHERE i will throw it at your face if you, say,
here do you want some cranberry?
Speaker 3 (02:39:09):
Sauce just don't just pass it. By, no, no.
Speaker 1 (02:39:12):
No, no no.
Speaker 4 (02:39:12):
No we have to stop acting like as a society
it's okay for us to think the cranberry sauce is.
Good it's never used anything. ELSE i gonna have a
slice of pumpkin pie At. CHRISTMAS i canna have a
slice of pumpkin pie At New.
Speaker 3 (02:39:23):
Year's you know. Where i'm never gonna have cranberry sauce
ever outside of one day of the.
Speaker 2 (02:39:27):
Year, Okay but like the same can be said about, Turkey,
like you, know aside from eating it on a sandwich when,
out when the hell else are you gonna eat?
Speaker 3 (02:39:33):
TURKEY i have turkey almost once a.
Speaker 2 (02:39:35):
WEEK i, mean, OKAY i MEAN i GUESS i guess
you're you, know out of the ordinary in that, regard
Because i've never heard of somebody being, like you, know
it would be really.
Speaker 3 (02:39:43):
Good right, now some turkey.
Speaker 4 (02:39:44):
Turkey with a good turkey burgers are. Fantastic turkey uses
it as a supplement instead of beaver is. Fantastic turkey
is a great way to if you want to help loose,
Weight i'm telling you right, now and that's a big
reason WHY i use it so.
Speaker 3 (02:39:54):
Much i'm not, Look i'm a big ground turkey. GUY
i love me some ground. Turkey Did, No i'm.
Speaker 2 (02:40:00):
With you on, that But i'm just saying like the
actual like like slices of, turkey and like you, know
the way that you eat it At, thanksgiving you're not
eating at any other.
Speaker 3 (02:40:08):
Time there's no such thing as candy. Dams they're candy sweet.
Speaker 4 (02:40:10):
Potatoes, Okay i'm telling, You, okay how many times have
you seen the orange?
Speaker 3 (02:40:16):
Thing they're, like, oh that's candy. Dams so what yams?
Speaker 17 (02:40:18):
Are?
Speaker 3 (02:40:18):
White?
Speaker 2 (02:40:18):
DUDE i never knew that there was necessarily like a
difference between the. TWO i just thought that sweet potatoes.
Speaker 3 (02:40:24):
Or, yams stuffing is the name of, it not dressing
it Overh, Okay, yeah you lose that. One, NO i
don't lose that. ONE i the audience. Agrees the audience agreed.
Speaker 4 (02:40:33):
Seven Ninety do you call it dressing or?
Speaker 3 (02:40:36):
Stuffing Because i'm telling you right now most of you
are probably calling it. Stuffing you have a hot.
Speaker 2 (02:40:40):
Take no hot. Take it's just you, know we're we're
a big fans Of Mike. Leach sure well we. Not
and of course you, know we Lost Mike leach a
couple of years, ago a huge loss, too because he
used to give us just jewels like this one where
After Mississippi state had played AGAINST i Believe East Tennessee.
STATE a couple of years, Ago Tara, talmadge then with
THE Sec, network caught up with, them and of, course
(02:41:01):
the what's on The thanksgiving plate conversation came up With Mike,
leach and The pirate could only answer it the way he.
Speaker 22 (02:41:08):
Could, OH i always make the, gravy AND i do
make great. Gravy i'm not a big cook guy and haven't,
been But i've made the gravy for. Decades but, YEAH
i always uh let's, SEE i always get uh white,
(02:41:29):
meat a little, stuffing not too, much lots of mashed,
potatoes gravy over. Everything uh hopefully they have greens they generally,
don't and then uh corner green beans never sweet potatoes.
Speaker 14 (02:41:46):
Better than any of this uh.
Speaker 3 (02:41:49):
Pumpkin apple.
Speaker 16 (02:41:50):
Stuff you.
Speaker 3 (02:41:51):
Know are you a cranberry sauce.
Speaker 22 (02:41:53):
Fan, yeah just a quick little droplet of. It i'm
not gonna get care away with.
Speaker 3 (02:42:00):
That, Either, Duch thank you so much for your. Time
congratulations on the, way all, right you he's the.
Speaker 2 (02:42:06):
Best Well terror got to win, too he was the. Best,
NO i, mean, look some people like the sweet and the.
Savory it's all. GOOD i don't begrudge you. Like look
it's on your. PLATE i don't have to eat.
Speaker 3 (02:42:17):
IT i have to look at. It, Okay, well then
a virtue your? Eyes what else you want me to tell?
Speaker 4 (02:42:22):
You go sit in the corner and eat it like
a like a like somebody in a, cave because that's
the only way That i'm going to accept.
Speaker 3 (02:42:28):
It did, Again and we all have our.
Speaker 4 (02:42:30):
Faults Mike leach was near, perfect but he said he
enjoys cranberry.
Speaker 3 (02:42:33):
Sauce there we. Go that's the fault.
Speaker 2 (02:42:34):
Now the only imperfection in my eyes was what he
said about stuffing and.
Speaker 3 (02:42:38):
Dressing he thought it? Stuffing did he?
Speaker 2 (02:42:40):
Did he did, so so once again he's one of the.
Speaker 3 (02:42:45):
Union the notion, is.
Speaker 4 (02:42:50):
It's dressing because of it is what you put on
top of a. Salad it's stuffing because of what you
take inside of.
Speaker 3 (02:42:54):
Turkey i'll give a very Happy thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (02:42:57):
Down same to, you, buddy and same to, You nicholas Poll.
On ain't all of you out there who make the
morning drive With dan And cole what it? Is, everybody
have a great and happy and Safe thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (02:43:08):
Weekend and we will talk to you On.
Speaker 2 (02:43:11):
Monday as of, Course The Matt Thomas show With ross
coming your. Way next right, Here matt In San. Francisco
ross right. HERE i need some of that chili That
ross made.
Speaker 3 (02:43:19):
Too it's. RENOWNED i heard it's.
Speaker 2 (02:43:21):
Fantastic, anyway we'll be eating a lot and talk to
you all On, monday right here on the Morning drive
With dan And.
Speaker 3 (02:43:27):
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Speaker 1 (02:43:33):
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