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Speaker 1 (00:16):
So you know who Matthew Perry is. That friend's gay. Yeah,
as he got older, like his mouth got relation small.
You see the interview he did not too long for Yeah,
not relation. Look it up yourself. You don't believe. Nonetheless,
they've been going after all the people that sold him ketamine.
And I can't decide if this is good or bad
(00:40):
them going after all these people because you're I guess
if you can prove they committed a crime, then okay,
But it seems it's a good deterrent for people to
sell and stop selling drugs. Sure, but ultimately it's the
free will of the person. I'm with you, hundred If
(01:01):
they're doctors, right, I get it.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
If it's like Joe blow you or me or random
person selling ketymine on the street or whatever, Yeah, maybe possibly,
But there's plenty of hospitals and doctors and clinics that
prescribe that.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Stuff, right, But if they prescribe it outside the medical need,
I think there's some ethics violation there.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Maybe so, But again this goes back on the person,
the user at this point, to control yourself, yeah, to
have that self control of a little too much ketamine lately,
I think I'm gonna have to dial it back.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Well, they've gone after these people, and they came to
an agreement with this woman known as the Ketamine Queen.
I didn't know who this was, so I looked her up.
Look at this kid. Oh, yes, how you doing it?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Okay's she's like forty three. For forty three, she's easily
an eight or nine. Oh yeah, And like here's a
picture of her without all that makeup on. She's not
an ugly person. So of course, of course she was
hanging around somebody, and I'm sure he made her feel
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she made him feel a certain way and probably pressured
him a little bit. So is this like just like
a girlfriend or somebody had a relationship with. I mean,
they may have had a relationship, but she apparently is
known for the amount of ketamine she had provided, not
(02:35):
like to a lot of people. Apparently she's known as
the person who sold drugs. She pled to guilty to
five federal charges wow with the Justice Department. She agreed
to plead one guilty one count maintaining a drug involved premise,
three counts of distrib distribution of ketamine, and one count
of distribution of ketamine resulting in death or serious bodily injury.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
But again, I mean just because she's the one, she's
the middleman or whatever, she's the supplier, doesn't mean that
she's forced it down his nose, throat, in his arms.
However you take ketamine. You know, she didn't force him
to do it. He did it on his own free will.
So again that's on him. I can't say, is that
(03:22):
I blame him for lie.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
You know her, or befriending that happen, right, Yeah, she's
one of five people charged in his death. He had
five different people providing him ketymine. This is wild, right,
and what does ketmine do for you? So they see? Okay,
so there's some interesting things about ketamine. They believe that
(03:45):
ketamine is the only they can Basically, it's a hard
reset of the brain and they can't like people overcoming
trauma with microdosine. Who's the girl that sings that song
with Zach Brian. Her name is Escaping Me right now,
a country singer. We've talked about her before. She admits
(04:07):
that she wrote this most recent that her recent album
with on ketamine. Oh yeah, okay, great? Uh not Grace Potter.
Uh yeah. She talked about how much it changed, but
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it like takes you to like a U four. It's
a psych you know, kind of like mushrooms not but yes,
same category, different experience. Ketamine known as special K horse
drinqualizers what I've always heard it as. Yeah, it's really strong.
But there are studies out there that say that ketamine
(04:49):
can help people with traumatic i'm sorry, serious trauma to
reset their brain, to not let their trauma hold them back.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Okay, So for PTSD.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
No think more like so PTSD is different than trauma, right,
PTSD has trauma in it, but trauma like you were
sexually abused by your father. Okay, Now, if you had
PTSD every time you're around to father any father, that
maybe right, or maybe you have trouble with relationships or
(05:26):
things like that. So they're kind of similar, but they're
not from my understanding. I probably got that wrong.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
But I don't think there's any row problem using it
for that reason, you know, But when you start abusing it,
much like oh Matt here, that's where it becomes a
bit of an issue. But that goes with any kind
of drugs. Yeah, they used heroin as painkiller. I mean
they still use heroin for painkillers.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah, but it's when you abuse. It is when there's
the problem. So I look to see what the punishment
is for those charges. Maintaining a drug involved premise maximum
twenty years in prison, really five hundred thousand dollars fine,
distribution of ketemine. Because it's Schedule three, the penalties are
lighter than heroin and cocaine, but still serious. Each count
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ten years finds up to five hundred thousand, and then
distribution of ketymine resulting in the death. Twenty years in
prison is the minimum wow, and a million dollar fine.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Wow. So this person could be locked away for a while. Yeah,
maybe cut it in half.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Good time.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
She's pretty, she might only survived.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Right, I promise a trial she won't look like that. No,
they'll dumb her down, make her look a little more homely.
If you know the punishment for the crimes you did
are going to prison for life, why would you not
take the trial? Right?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Because there's a better chance of you getting off and
not going to prison. I meant to have a good lawyer.
There's some statistical chance even if she I can't even
imagine what the negotiation would be like, settlement wise, to
just plead guilty. Even if she got twenty years, you're
(07:12):
still in jail till you're sixty three, right, right, ten
years maybe five years either way. Yeah, I don't think
that she should get in trouble for it. I don't
think any of those people should get in trouble for it.
I think it's all on the user. You went too far. Well,
(07:32):
somebody's got to be held responsible. This is that Michael
Jackson where the fucking doctor was coming in, you know,
and in administering the drugs, pumping him into his veins.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I mean, if you're doing it without a prescription, I mean,
if you're doing providing a prescription unnecessarily, think again, I
think there's an ethics thing involved there. Twenty years, I mean,
if they resulted in death, you should definitely lose your license.
I'll give you that. And again, I'm for the deterrent
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of drugs, specifically opiates, right because people sell with no repercussion,
and if you buy a car that kills your loved one,
there's a repercussion. So why shouldn't that exist in the
drug market.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
So how come the manufacturers have said ketamine aren't getting
any trouble for it. They're the ones who made and
if they would have never made it, maybe they're on
the list and then they wouldn't we wouldn't have these issues.
I mean with the opioid crisis, they went after big
you know, the companies that made that.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
States did eventually, and maybe that should be the case here.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I don't know. I just don't think you should all
hinge on just you know, the person who sold it
to them.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah. I don't think there's a to compare the kem
ketymene to the opiate opiate opiate pandemic or epidemic. Uh,
it does not is not fair. I mean, categorically across
the board, there is clear negligence on the manufacture for
prescribing opiates and the doctors that go with it that
kept pushing it.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Sure you know that, you know, and it's like it's
okay and noo, they're hooked, you know, on on the
on the drugs. There's there's a lot more I think
that should be on the hook than just this one
hot forty three year old.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Is it cause she definitely has some plump lips. Yeah.
I saw this thing called marriage graduation. What do you
think marriage graduation is?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Well, I know a lot of I don't know if
a lot of states still make you have like pre
marriage counseling, so maybe when you graduate that it's like, okay,
you can get married now, so marriage graduation.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Okay can be I've plunked out of marriage, so I
couldn't tell you you took a mulligan, right right, I'm
a marriage drop out and glue. It is not education
of marriage before getting married. Apparently it is when you
are married happily, but you decide to live separately to
(10:12):
achieve some life goals.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Huh. Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I don't know a lot of people that would be
down for that sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I know two, maybe three people off the top of
my head, two for sure, that have done this. Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I do know an older couple that's done it. She
lived up here, he lived in Oklahoma City. That was
just like a word thing. It's not like we were
trying to, you know, achieve life goals. Yes, it's easier
that way as opposed to traveling an hour and a
half because.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I know two people that live here and their partners
live in Houston and in San Antonio. Wow. Yeah, and
they come back on weekends. They have a place down
there and then they come back on weekends.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
That takes a lot of trust, yeah, in that relationship,
or you know, some kind of you know, whatever agreement
that they have.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Or plausible deniability. Right, No, I'm too damn needy. Yeah,
but to again, this is why we say, like whatever,
I mean, there's no formula for marriage. Whatever works for
you is what works for you. But I don't know
if you can call it marriage when you live apart. No,
it's not even really a partnership, is it. I mean'll situationship. Yeah,
(11:35):
I think it is a partnership. Still. If you can
be married and your partners serve in the military and
be gone for long deployments, is that still a marriage?
Or do we excuse it because they're protecting our freedoms?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
It's part of the latter half there, it is their
job they're forced to.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
But ask all the.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
JODI's out there, you know what I mean, is it
a partnership? Is really a marriage? You know, your old
man's off fucking protecting your rights and I hope you
hit the hope you hit the right button. But they're
out there protecting and serving our country, and meanwhile you're
getting bent over by Danny in accounting.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Always serving or also doing always like blaming the person
that stayed back is the philander.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I'd like, I think most of the time it is.
But you know you're right there when they're overseas, when
either way, when a couple's apart, you just don't And
that's why I said it takes a lot of trust
because you don't know what they're doing and you have
to accept that no matter what, we're gonna make us work.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, yeah, you gotta have blind faith. But I think
to be in a marriage, you gotta have blind faith, yes,
just in general. Yeah, regardless whether they're here or you know,
two hundred miles away. True, because you never know what's
going to happen. You can cheat in the same town
just as likely as you can cheat far away. Sure,
(13:06):
you can absolutely be like I'm going to work and
then at lunch someone's splitting her and a half right right, Yeah,
and you have to be at peace with well that'd
be on.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Them right do with your own insecurities.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah, marriage graduation GTFO. My wife came to me and
was like, hey, I mean this has actually come up
with her in her job is where there was a
possibility she may have to relocate a few years back,
and I was like, well, all right, well, I'm not
going to hold her back from her career. She's the breadwinner,
(13:43):
she's achieved a lot more than I have. I'm all
for supporting her. And so if she's like, hey, I
have a chance to move to Zimbabwe, then like, okay,
if you think that's what's best for this family. Oh shit, Zimbabwe.
I mean I just pulled us the city out of
my out of my head.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I said, Zimbabwe.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Well, what's the worst that could happen? I gonna understand.
I understand why you're reacting so negatively. I didn't say uh,
I didn't say Yemen right where there's a civil war happening.
So I don't. I don't understand why you reacted that
way with Zimbabwe. Ever been there? No? Have you no?
So then why is your reaction?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I just can't imagine.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Neither can I. But also, it doesn't matter where we.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Live, right you know, she moves to Zimbabwe, becomes an
African princess, and you know, as long as she's sending
you back.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Like she's gonna go there and find everything, you're resistible.
That's the dumbest thing I've heard throw her whole family
and everything away for sure.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Sure, listen, it's been a great run. But I'm a
fucking princess.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, equally happen here.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
You need a marriage, graduation.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Treated you like a princess every day. Yeah, but that
could happen here. The likelihood of it happening here is equal.
I ride elephants around here for fun. I've heard stories
of people that get relocated for their jobs and they
have to go to like China or something like that,
and they live in compounds and they have security and
(15:27):
a driver. That's to me, that's a whole other thing.
Like if we hey, we're gonna move the family, but
we're gonna have to have a security person with us
all the time, and you will no longer drive, which
actually sounds great. So you're going to have a driver.
That feels crazy. Yeah, but life is about experience as
an adventure, and if that's what it is, that's what
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it is.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Right, get a nice Zimbabwe and vacation out of the deal.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Maybe I didn't. I didn't sign up to marry my
wife with the hey, I'm marrying you as long as
we stay here forever. Yeah, So that's where my head
is with it.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
So she's like, job's taking me to Zimbabwe. You're going
right there with her.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
We're not splitting up. I guess makes sense.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I do the same thing.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
We're a family now. I'm not gonna pull her kids
away from her. Sounds me like the children are gonna
have to learn how to click. Yeah, no, I get it.
It's very perfect.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Trope eighty nine ninety three eighty nine hundred and ninety
three miles. That's how far is away Zimbabwe is from. Also, Olahoma,
that's far far. I just had to look. I'm like,
how far is it? Damn near nine thousand miles.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
It takes one day and two hours to fly there.
Oh okay, good to see a sea. Just going for
the weekend show. That's wild, wild, Yeah, I just picked
a place.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I tried to pick a place that wouldn't be so
fucking judged. But God damp. He's like, oh, God, Africans,
what do you know about Zimbabwe?
Speaker 3 (17:22):
It's so horrible, just the fact that it's a day
and a half away.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
You didn't know that when I said you know that information?
After your reaction, they even speak English? How what? What?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
How are you going to get get around there, pack
up the whole family and move to Zimbabwe.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
What do they eat? What is the weather like? They
eat food? The sunshines there? The are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Zimbabwe faces numerous challenges, including a struggling economy with high
inflation and unemployment.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Welcome to America. Political instability, Welcome to.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Americanizations of right its abuse and corruption.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Welcome to America.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Severe fatigue is also an issue, right, affecting food security.
These factors contribute to a decline in living standards and
a sense of hopelessness for many citizens of Zimbabwe. Oh yeah,
they're The reintroduction of the Zimbabwean dollar after a period
of using the US dollar has led to further economic uncertainty. Yeah,
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I'm sure Zimbabwe is a good place to live.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I want to see. So what does it say what
the currency is in Zimbabwe? Well, it's a Zimbabwean dollar.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
They used the US dollar for a while, but they
went back to the Zimbabwean dollar.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, that's not on here. So let's just say fifty
thousand dollars. Yeah, is how much you make in a
salary and in Zambian money, which isn't the same, but
that would be fifty thousand would be equal to one
hundred and sixteen thousand Zambian dollars. Okay, so he's not Zimbabwe.
(19:08):
But yeah, yeah, shiny Nickel, I quit.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah, my own oil company, in my own hote.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
That movie never gets old. No, no, no, the uh yeah,
it never does.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Anytime it's on, I gotta watch it. I'll watched it
just the other day. As a matter of fact, it's like,
this is great laying in bed, chilling. I know I'm
gonna be going to sleep, but fucking ah. Euro trips
on a minute.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
My wife has a couple of movies that are nos,
Like if I'll put it on, she's like no, and
uh that is one and The Town is the other
one like that. If I stop on it, she's like.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
No, is it because she's just seen it too many
times or she just doesn't like it.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I think, yes, okay, I think she doesn't like it.
And I think my wife somebody who is not like
a watching movie multiple time person, because I'm like, she's like,
why are you watching this? I'm like it's good. She's like,
we've seen it. I'm like, I know. My wife also
grew up with no TV in the summer.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Oh, it's sadness, the same reactions she got cancer.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, And so for her like watching, like when we
first started dating, there were movies she'd never seen before.
You know, my kids go to school on the first day.
She never experienced that. She doesn't know what meat the
teacher was like. She didn't start school at the public
school level, I think to like eighth grade, maybe even
(20:45):
later than that. So for her it's like she's like,
I don't need TV.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Right, She's lived without it for so long.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
We've talked about it with our kids of putting the
TV away. Do you know what the hang up is
every time we talk about it, it's us I want
to watch TV. Yeah, of course I want to watch
TV for my job. And so I'm not going to
be like, well, daddy can watch TV. Fuck you. It's
a hard cell.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Speaking of have you seen the new show on? They
have it on Hulu, but it's called Are You My First? Okay,
So it's kind of like Love Island and the trashy
shit shows that we watch, but it's an island full
of virgins and they are That's what I thought too,
(21:35):
And they are. Some of these women on there are
like major knockouts.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Like you.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
They don't look like this.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
You can be hot.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
And and they're older too, like much older. And a
lot of them like I'm like, they must all be
from like Utah, and a lot of them are. And uh, anyway,
I only watched the first episode, but they are all
looking basically for love so they can lose their virginity
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for the first time.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I don't believe any of that. It's my first time.
I've never done this before. All right, So I'm looking
at contesting the first guy, he's from Utah. Okay, I understand,
because he's more Brooklyn. I mean I would say she
is a if I'm being honest, A seven.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
She's got a butterface, a horse mouth. Yeah. Uh Carissa, Okay,
she's cute. I mean I can't see her face close up,
so I'm I mean again, she's got a great body,
nice joke, yes.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
And her personality is out pretty outgoing too.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Uh this girl Nope, No, Well you don't believe that
she's a virgin.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
No, I don't believe she's good looking.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
You look like you've ben Tasha.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Okay, this girl's yeah, she's probably a seven five to
an eight five.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
That's fake. The glasses give it away.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
They're too big. They're too big for her. That's the
current trend is Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't
believe it. Yeah. Uh well here's the other thing too
about this, lindsay that I think a show like this
works with this age group. They're all about the same
age people more than ever are drinking less and saving sex,
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and not for a religious reason, just because they don't
want to. Yeah, they're just waiting. They're like, there's no
rush to do that.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
So it's not an imp to me. That's not an
impossible reality that these people. Now could they be lying?
Of course? How do you value show us your hymen?
They're not gonna do right, right? I think just because
it's fucking reality to you.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
It was pretty interesting watching them all come to the
island and some and the awkwardness of them because you
know they're all dialed up and you know they've had
the glam squad dial them up and look really good
and stuft, but the way they walk and talk it
is very awkward.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I have one word to debunk all this and all
those other fucking shit ass shows that you guys watch actors.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Well, I mean, once you are on screen, then you're
an actor. So I don't disagree with that. I mean,
any you just fucking hire actors, all right, here's the deal,
aspiring actors. All Right, I got a gig for you,
but I need you to play this kind of nerdy.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
You know you've been a virgin. Da da da da,
that's your role.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Sure, I definitely think there's some of that, but there's
also people that I mean, you can see it on
their lineage, right, you know, it's too easy now to
go and hunt somebody down and see what their story is.
Maybe they were trying to be on TV or whatever.
But there are plenty of people who go on Love
is Island, Big Brother survivor whatever and see that as
a lift, a leverage to that next step acting. So
I don't think you're wrong. I do believe this guy's
(25:05):
a virgin though. Yeah, here you are taking your pr
shot for a TV show and you're wearing your birkenstocks.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
So and he even said he was like, he was like,
Rachel's by far the hottest girl in here, and I'm
gonna stay away because I know I won't have a chance.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, at least he knows his limits. This girl's thirty
and she's a virgin, and she's a cock cocktail waitress yep.
And a romance romant romanticy author. Okay, she's right smut
right we disregarded as it's literature.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Right, it's fucking spicy romance novels. Yeah, I don't buy
that at all.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
A cocktail waitress, a virgin cocktail waitress. I mean, you
can be hot and have jobs that are known for
bad things, like I think it's a it's a it's
misguide to think that an attractive person has no self
control in an environment that is cliche sexualized.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Maybe so maybe you can, but h and that's at
this point in time in their life. What about earlier
in life, as they were being raised up, they were
still fucking hot, you know, and there's still those temptations there,
and kids and you know aren't very good at you know,
holding off temptation.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I think some kids, I think nowadays, kids nowadays can
I mean I think they can more than ever. Uh,
she's got a horrible ass, dude, look at this, we
got horrible her asses.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Oh that's just terrible. That's that's just that's a terrible shame.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah. Look at there's look how ugly her asses and
hmmmmmr lin she's got an ugly ass. Oh yeah, I'd
hate to have that ass. Yeah, she's I don't understand
the eye makeup.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
But she does wear a lot of eye makeup.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I would like to see.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
I would like to see what she looks like without
makeup completely.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yeah, you can never tell. I mean, filters people have
is wild, right, but it does surprise me that there
are versions. I think that you again, you can be
they're attractive and also a virgin. Maybe they are. That
doesn't it doesn't automatically have to fall in the line
of the experiences we had, and maybe they are good
(27:30):
for them.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
If they are, I don't believe them.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
You just don't want the fantasy to die. No, you
see the ass, She still got a great ass, whether
she's a virgin or not. Right, all right, you guys
have a fantastic week. Thanks for hanging out with us,
Sea by bye.