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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We don't know how long we're gonna have him, so
we're going right into it. He is the University of
Texas vice president and the Lows and Richard Foegler athletic director.
He is the one, the only Christale County but you
go and call him CDC.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Good morning, my friend.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
How you doing, Good morning, Pallas.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I'm excited to have you all man, because I know
that it has been a busy, busy time for you.
We were talking about it earlier, being away from the
University of Texas with the football team for forty two
days and now finally getting an opportunity to be back
home at DKR. I know that excites you to be
able to see the fans back at home.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yeah, who's thatt ad that schedule? That schedule days? Oh,
Henry must have done that.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
No, No, you know me.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
I'm all about that life. I want Austin to always
be kicking it.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
You know, when that schedule came out and you're thinking, okay,
forty two days, and you know the problem was that
the Ou game was was scheduled as our home game
this year, so when you laid out the schedule, that
was considered a home game, so that stretch of being
away from Austin, it was brutal. Proud of our guys though,
to come across that stretch the way they did, just
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it was it was tough.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
And I saw that you made the trip to I know,
you make the trip to all the games, but being
able to go to Mississippi State to startville, how's your
ears right now after being over there with all them cowbells?
Speaker 6 (01:32):
You know, it was interesting about just in general this
year with the road trips that we've had. Going to Florida,
what an incredible environment and gaming you know, didn't go
the way we wanted to go, but an incredible environment.
Great uh a great SEC town Kentucky, what a what
an incredible place they were.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
And then you got Mississippi State.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Each and everyone have their own culture, their own identities,
and it was awesome for our fans to see that.
And you know, uh, Mississippi State was it was this
old true sou or SEC team. They're pumped their their
circumstances or culture to be down like we were. We
were down there. I looked up the scoreboard. It was
thirty eight twenty one at about the nine thirty four mark.
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And to have a comeback like we did. It was
it was awesome, happy for the kids, but uh, that's
that's a hectic environment. By the way, it was their
homecoming game, and it was Kentucky's homecoming game.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I'm like, hey, guys, we know what's Texas. But i mean,
come on now.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
You talking about staking the dick against you.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I mean everyone their mother was there for both games.
I was like, Okay, you guys are ridiculous. CDC.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
I just want to let you know that heart and
I are not stalking you.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
You know, we don't go back to our trip to Dallas.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
We're driving around and Hard goes, man, it looks like CDC.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
And I said, because it is.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
And he said, and we stopped and hey, we had
a moment, but a good time.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
Well, you know that's pretty funny. I snuck away to
take the ou a d to a secret breakfast place.
So I'm gonna say secret. There's gonna be no one there,
and we're just gonna be you know, it's his last
it's his last red River game as the athletic director.
Just go down to show appreciation for him and his wife.
They've been dear friends, and here's your two yardbirds.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Blaring the horn. Bye, I'm like hell.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
And is laying on the horns.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I mean, you see the yardbirds blaring on the horn
and he goes, oh, I thought this was a secret spot.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Not really, not now, not anore.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
So did you did you break out your your winterwhear yet?
Because it was forty six degrees this morning?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I did.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
I did not because at the end of the day,
I looked, it's gonna be like eighty five, right, but
it was very close. It's the closet is now going
to go from the you know, the warm summer stuff
to the fall stuff. By the way, it's what is
it today, the thirty Halloween and we're finally getting fall
right ridiculous right now?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
And that's what everybody keeps talking about, is being back
at home and the weather changing. But more importantly, you know,
this football team has gone through some adversity that dealt
with some injuries, but now they continue to find a
way to get it done. And Coach Stark always talks
about the leadership and the culture of this program. And
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that's some of the things that you've talked about too,
because of your coaching hires, the way that your staff's
handled their business, it's all about the culture at the
University of Texas.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Well.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
You know, it's interesting both of you guys know this,
Mark and Nika.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Every team takes on a different personality that comes out
and this is not an excuse. And by the way,
we've lost twenty five guys that went to the NFL
made NFL rosters in the last two years. They didn't
get they didn't they didn't just say they're on rosters.
So you're looking at that depth you loss, you're replacing
young people. Expectations of Texas are not for the tibbindor
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of the week. It's awesome and every team is going
to take on a different personality moving forward. And you know,
you look at Someday's defense. Boy, our defense has been
playing unbelievable. Then you look at our offense comes in
against missign State in that last quarter. But everything what
I love about there's no quit They fight the tailoff
to the very end. They're battling, they're galvanizing. It's awesome
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to see what they're doing. And the personality of this
team is we're really young. We're the youngest team in
college football right now. We went from being a very
older team to a very very young team. The team
we're playing on Saturday is the oldest team in college football.
So when you're young, you're going to have young mistakes.
It's a great guy. You guys love this. We're playing Georgia.
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We were playing Florida, and we jump out sides a
couple of times. This kid comes off with these. One
of our offensive line. He looks at me, goes, she
it's super loud up there.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
And I start laugh and I go, dude, this is
a seventeen year old kid, because it's super loud out there.
I just chuckled to myself, like, my man, I get
it yet, because he's the size of Henry, you know
what I mean. And you're thinking he's going to be
great because it's super loud. In my mind, I'm starting
to I just chuckled.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
I love that because it's just baturation right before our
eyes CDC.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
My next question I wrote down was how do you
feel about the veteran teams like Vandy. They have like
twenty five and twenty six year old guy men out
there playing against these seventeen, eighteen year old twenty kids,
Like you know, there's just a certain level of maturity.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
How do you how do you feel about those teams?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
You know, and I look at it.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
You know, when you think we went through COVID, everyone
got that COVID heere and then we're right in the
middle of all the lossuits that came up for the name,
image of likeness, and then the next one was eligibility.
We don't really have any guardrails right now put in place.
I mean, they talk about the score Actor, we talk
about Congress. We're just asking them to give us a
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narrow antitrust exemption so we can just govern ourselves. There's
thirty nine different state laws right now in college athletics,
thirty nine. We don't have a federal law that says
this is what college athletics is.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
It's going the opportunity for eighteen to twenty two year
old kids.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
It's coming to college to get a degree, to go
on and become productive citizens. Only two percent of our
kids go pro But what happens is everyone's filing an injunction.
Everyone's filing a laws to try to get eligibility or opportunity.
And I don't mind that. But what happens is when
you have thirty nine different state laws.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Who's governing us?
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Right Who's so Texas has different all the Missouri Missouri
has a different suffer in all than Florida.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
California has a different law.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
So when you start to look at we don't have
an ability to govern ourselves right now. So these older
teams are finding ways to get another year of eligibilityallenging
one set of rules to come and have an opportunity.
I don't begrudge those young kids for that opportunity. What
I do to begrudge is that we don't have a
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law to enforce what we have on the books.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
You're a solutions guy, what would be the solution?
Speaker 6 (08:16):
Well, I mean currently right now, there's there's there's there's
a Score Act, which is a bill that's put in
Congress right now to put us a narrow anti trust
exemption saying you know what, this is the land for
this is a law for college athletics, and we have
name image. You like this, and this is how you're
going to enforce name them you like this. Here's how
you can enforce publicity rights, and here's the rules that
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we have an engagement for sport. But when you don't
have that ability to do that right now, you're you're
walking through the wilderness in a very strange way, and
that's the problem with what we're facing right now.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
And then you have media, then you have all these
other people that are now involved in our business. And
the media does an amazing job, but I mean they're
just reporting.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
On what's taking place, and when you start to look
at where the landscape is moved to, it's just the
wild wild West. And Congress, I mean, we're on a
lockout right, I was in day thirty. So you're asking
them to coming to a solution when they're not going
to be able to do that, and we got to
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be able to do it ourselves. But the lowest common
denopinator opportunity always wins, and that's the farious nature of humanity.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
We're talking to the athletic director of the University of
Texas Christill County, Chris. I wanted to ask you this
because you know, I saw that Greg Thanking, the Commissioner
of the SEC, is asking for Congress to pretty much
take back the ability of college athletics or college students
athletes to be able to bet on pro sports, And
(09:48):
as soon as it came out, I was like, that
is the most ridiculous thing that I've ever heard for
the kids to be able to do that. What were
your thoughts when you first heard that this was coming
down the pike.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I was blown away. They didn't even ask us. I
didn't even know about it.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
I couldn't even say this is the most ridiculous thing
that I've heard, and what that comes out? And then
two or three days days later you find out what's
going on with in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
What are we doing?
Speaker 6 (10:16):
You know, it makes no sense. You got eighteen two
year old kids, you got young people on campus. You're
trying to say, wait a minute, betting on sports is
not what we do. We have a geofence around all
of our facilities. You place a bet, my phone rings
being your happy asses in my office in two seconds
and we're like, what are you doing? You saw what
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happened at Iowa Stayed a couple of years ago, when
seventeen kids were dismissed from the program. We will not
allow that at the University of Texas. It should not
be allowed in college athletics. Once you start allowing betting
in the sport, you have nefarious behavior that takes place.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
How many times have we seen fixing up games? You
know you have that notorious case in Arizona State in
the late eighties two, laying way back in the day.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
If you have the guy that was in the.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Northeast doing these things, then you see what's happening in
the NBA right now in this investigation. It is just
criminal activity. Will seek the weakest link to expose it.
Why are we allowing that to be exposed right now?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Makes no sense to me.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
Commissioner saying he put a strong letter of we all
endorse no gaming, But I just couldn't believe that they
that they went ahead and passed us without even asking us,
no doubt, it.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Is absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well, getting back to the University of Texas, a lot
going on on the forty acres. You got the Beach
Boys coming in this week, and I know that makes
you happy, but what are some of the other things
that are happening starting well, not tomorrow but Saturday morning,
early Saturday morning.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Well, Mikey, it's not I mean, I like the beach story,
but I'm not exactly just downod.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
If it was CCR, I'd be like, yeah, buddy, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Let's just be by the way Kentucky was playing the
beast Boys during halftime one of their dances.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I look over the referee right in the middle of
the game. I go, it was right in the middle
of the game.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
I go, you know these fans, you know, the Beastie
Boys are the ref to start classic ridiculous right off
the other way. I mean, you know what's crazy too,
is we were on a forty two game road game
and they come back and give us the eleven o'clock game.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I'm right, get a night game. I mean, hot Dame,
So welcome to the SEC. You know.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
I think coming back home this week, especially the game
with Benny who has seven and one, have a lot
to play for. We have lots to play for us
to be exciting, you know everything that all our goals
are in front of us. All of our goals are
in front of us, and that's what's exciting for us.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
You know, you're you're sitting in six and two. We
have a great game this weekend, and we just got
to single we focus on this game.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
And it's Halloween, so I hope our students have a
hell of a time at night and tomorrow night, because
you know when Halloween, it's usually.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Not one night.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
It's about a three day vendor.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
The game just just costume and all ready to roll
and get our fans there fired up.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
But then having the beach Boys afterwards gonna be exciting.
We can CDC.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
I asked hard As just a minute ago, if there
was any character you had unlimited funds, who who would
you want to dress up as? Hart said he would
be the vampire in Brooklyn. I said that I would
be one of the predators.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
What what would you be? What would you dress up at?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
First of all, that's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Like that, y'r dang, that's why you like him. I mean,
that's way too much time on your hand.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
If you had all the money in the world and
you could dress up as a character, listen here, Fellas,
you guys got to get a day job.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Time on your hands. I'd have to think about that.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Man, I'm busy. I don't have time to drift.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah, dress up like the predator.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
That's his way. I'm not giving us an answer.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
You don't know what he wants to be.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
You can't think of that answer on the spot.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Because of that answer, Lives Forever, Fellas came out with
actually some true quality ass right there.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
We try to make sure that we get it to happen. Man,
we want to.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Take you all that took you boys like forty eight hours.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Well as always, Man, we appreciate you taking the time.
I know you're busy and uh, we just wanted to
make sure that we got a chance to talk.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
To you one more time.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
We both have been taking the human product just f
y superbats. I know that you're you're big into that
now that you have that endorsement. You were taking it
long before they were part of the program. But we
continue to rock them every single day and we we
love the product as well.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Well.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 6 (15:01):
I love the fact that the University of Texas scientists
came up and found that, you know, and you think
about the unlocked the vernacular enzyme in your body that
looked for help for human health, and you think the
guy want to know about prize for that happened right
here on the forty happened right here on in the
Texas system. That's the validation of why you come to school.
(15:24):
You come to school to get a degree to change
the world, and these two professors did that. And really
happy for them, happy for us. I'm gad you're taking
the product. More important, you fellas. You need to hit
the gym, you know what I mean, like a little
cardial I mean you two fellas. I mean, come on, now, you.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Guys, push back.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
You can take all that product, but push back a
little bit of portionality.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
There, Henry.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Down one hundred and sixteen pounds.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
What do you want me to do?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Get off the leg you did.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Let's start out where the other one sixteen was. I
mean hot, damn if five sixty down one hundred and
sixty pounds.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Listen, I'm not gonna stop eating brisky.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I'm not.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
I mean fellas, I mean pendic whatever that stuff is.
You know, a proportionality, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
We can't deal with you.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Man.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
We appreciate you as always, and next time I see.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
You down one hundred and sixty pounds, I love that.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
He's been working because I'm gonna give you your hug
like I give hard hug. Now you now you're on
the hug lift run. I'm telling you, aud you were
a track star. Keep running from him.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Tend the concept you guys, be great.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Appreciate you, Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Man.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
As always there he is the athletic director for the
University of Texas CDC.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
All he does is cut us down.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Man.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Man, he told you you need to get in the gym.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
No he was talking to you. No, he was talking
to you, because I already go that he was talking
to you. I invite youself. Where me, he said, Henry,
No he said, he said guy.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
He said at