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October 2, 2025 17 mins
Today, the guys have on for “The Legends of the Locker Room” former Florida Gator defensive end and author Thaddues Bullard, also known from the WWE as “Titus Oneal.” He and Mark reminisce about their trash-talking days in the WWE, comparing them to their college sports rivalries. He tells us what is missing and prevents the Gators from meeting expectations. He breaks down what Florida needs to do to defeat the Longhorns successfully. He explains how their fans have felt about the team over the last couple of years. He explains why he was so close to Mark over the years. He talks about who’s impacted his life the most, his books, “There is No Such Thing as a Bad Kid” and “Wrestling with Fatherhood,” which explain his past and the importance of fatherhood. He also discusses being on the Bravo reality television show, “Kings of the Court.” You can hear it all here on “The Morning Kickoff Show!”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's Mark Henry and Mike Hart.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Well, you know what that music means.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
That means that we have a very very special guest
who is a legend in the locker room. He is
a former Florida Gator football player, and what better week
to have him on as the Texas Longhorns will travel
to Gainesville to take on the Florida Gators. His name
is Thaddius Bullard, but you know him as Titus O'Neil

(00:40):
from the w W E. Titus, thanks for joining us,
my brother. I appreciate you hopping on with us this morning.
Thanks for having me and your boy Mark has been
waiting for this moment because you.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Know you already know that. So let me let me
briefly say this.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Titus and Fred Rosser, they both roll with me for years,
and like these are like my brothers, and we have
you know, your friendly robberies about sports will draw you
the blows. We have been in the car many a
Saturday getting ready to go to a show and Texas

(01:27):
is playing, and Titus would run us down. Y'all don't
play nobody, y'all playing Baylor, y'all playing, y'all playing right,
I said, man Florida not good no more. Hey man,
I was two bits I'm doing. He used to let
me have it. Hey man, you better pray your lucky

(01:50):
stars that Florida goes out there and represents because oh,
what you gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Hear from me is not gonna be pretty.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
I'm already prepared, like I when we don't play in football,
but we playing another.

Speaker 6 (02:06):
Sport out here from Mark and we're.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
Playing softball, and Texas be Florida and softballs, it don't matter.

Speaker 6 (02:16):
He don't give it to me no matter what.

Speaker 5 (02:18):
So when it comes to football, and the fact that
both me and him, every me and him and friend,
every time we go to Austin, Texas, we always worked
out at the Austin at the Texas Longhorns football facility.
Mark has an amazing relationship with with with the university
and he's you know, gone back all the way back

(02:39):
to the days when Mad Dog was the head string coach.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Put this Texas shirt on here working out, you gotta put.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Yeah, yeah, And I'm like, you know, and but Fred
didn't have no problem, you know, putting on the Texas
shirt because Fred wanted free stuff for me.

Speaker 6 (02:56):
That's what free is for me. Let's get into it.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Man, let's talk a little bit about this because your
Florida Gators have struggled a little bit. People on the
national scene feel like Texas had struggled and didn't look good.
But you go back and you look at it and
you compare both of these teams. Texas is on the
plus on this side of it, but there's that waking
giant that is sitting with that Florida Gator football team.

(03:22):
We're big fans of DJ Lagway and hopefully he can
get better, but I hope it's next week and not
this week. So you start to look at this Florida
team and what do you think is missing?

Speaker 2 (03:34):
As a former player.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
I think that well, first and foremost, the defense has
been playing lights out the entire season, in my opinion.

Speaker 6 (03:43):
But at the end of the day, you know, if.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
They're out on the field a lot longer than they
need to be, eventually.

Speaker 6 (03:49):
There's going to be some breaks. You know. You take
the game.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
Versus LSU, you know, five turnovers an excuse me, you know,
in the least bit and it's you know, and we
can make all the excuses that we want to make.
You know, DJ didn't take any many reps in the spring,
he didn't take many reps in the in the in
the fall, and this and that and at the end
of the day, but in my opinion, you you as

(04:16):
a coach, you have to figure out ways to you know,
kind of minimize those opportunities for him to have those mistakes.
And I think Billy is a tremendous football coach. I
really believe that. Like, he's a great man and a
great football coach. But you know, when you look at
statistics and you see, you know, a twenty and twenty

(04:38):
one record and only a few wins versus ranked opponents
over the three year span, then and then the offensive
production or lack of production therefore, then you got to say, okay, well,
what can we do differently?

Speaker 6 (04:52):
Can we have another offensive coordinator, play pick plate, pick
play calls or whatever? This and that.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
So I'm I'm gonna like, uh, I think Billy is
an amazing man, you know, an amazing coach. I just
hope that the players, much like they did in the
second half of the season last year, turn that corner
and and everything starts clicking for the right reasons and
the right ways. And I think that you know this

(05:19):
this this week versus Texas is an opportunity for the
offense to go out and produce special teams to go
out and produce, and defense, like I said, I feel
like defense has been playing lights out football all season long.
But again, as a defensive player myself, you know, if

(05:40):
I got to stay on that field a lot longer
than what I'm typically if I'm getting three and outs
and I'm getting turnovers them and we're not capitalizing on
the other side of the ball, at some point, I'm
gonna get frustrated as a player. But in the same token,
I still have to do my job as a player.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Tells you you're being a defensive player and uh, as
confident a man as you are. You didn't say that
with a lot of bass in your voice.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
Oh no, I said, I said it would I said
it with realistic expectations.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 6 (06:13):
My realistic expectation.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
Is is if we go out and we are effective
on offense and we play this play defense like we've
been playing the entire season, Texas has struggled on the
offensive side of the ball, So we we just got
to match over or supersede what we've done on the
offensive side of the ball to the fact that match

(06:36):
what the defensive side of the ball has been doing.

Speaker 6 (06:39):
I don't and well, for one, I don't for one.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
Second thing that we cannot go out and beat Texas
this weekend.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (06:46):
I believe that we can beat Texas.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
The pulse of the pulse of Florida and the pulse
of the fan base in Gainesville. How are the fans
dealing with the way Florida has been represented over the
last couple of three years.

Speaker 6 (07:01):
They don't like it.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
I mean, in anybody that has any pride in the
school wouldn't like it. You know, we are trying to
get back to being in the conversation of national championships
and the SEC championships. And you know that is not
a knock against Billy's coaching ability. That is a realistic
standard that's been set not just for you know, this generation.

(07:28):
But you know, when I played, After I played, you know,
when I played, we won a national championship, We were
in the national spotlight in the top ten consecutively a
year and a year out.

Speaker 6 (07:40):
We had winning records.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
We weren't struggling to figure out whether or not we
were going to play in a bowl game.

Speaker 6 (07:46):
After I left the same thing was happening.

Speaker 5 (07:49):
Tim Tebow and Urban Meyer had a hell of a
run and winning two national championships there, and then there
was still some success. At least we weren't the button
the jokes and conversations. I mean, when you got coach
go thirty on Instagram breaking down your film, that's not
a good thing at all. So I think that their

(08:14):
frustration is very warranted at the fact that we have
some of the best facilities, if not the best facilities
in college football. We have a hell of a donor
base and people that are willing to pour into the collective.
But they also want just like Texas Football wants and
Ohio State wants and LSU wants and all these teams

(08:35):
that are and Notre Dame and everyone else that is
putting resources.

Speaker 6 (08:38):
And money, they want to win.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
And you can't blame somebody that's sitting in the swamp
at three point thirty in the afternoon in Gainesville, Florida,
where there's no breeze to want to sit there and
watch their team lose.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah, that's gotta be tough. I wouldn't know nothing about that,
but you will.

Speaker 6 (09:00):
Yeah, you about to find out.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
So you just did a show man on Bravo called
Kings of the Court. And you know, I didn't know
you was looking for love first off, and secondly, did
you find it on that show?

Speaker 5 (09:18):
I would say I found a better piece of my
understanding of what I want in a partner. Okay, I
think it was a great experience. I did choose a
queen that I felt like I can continue to journey with.
Obviously that journey is done. The show was shot a

(09:39):
year ago, so a lot of things can happen and transpire.

Speaker 6 (09:43):
I'm glad.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
I mean, as you probably saw on Instagram, me and
Carlos and Jane are very close and they're still going
strong and just celebrated there one year quote unquote anniversary
from the show and being a couple. But you know,
for me, the show was an opportunity to and a
genuine connection. And uh, there were several a couple of
people on that show that I thought I had a

(10:05):
genuine connection with. But then when you're you have to
operate outside of that space. You know, reality TV is uh,
you know, it's a it's a different animal in itself,
much like WWE. You know, it's a constant ground and
constant ground and constant.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
When I get it.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
Yeah, yeah, So you know it's like you like that.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
You know, you're a perfect example, because we've talked about
this numerous times on the road, like you never got
so consumed in the being a WW superstar that you
neglected being a father, you know, to your two amazing kids.
You never neglected being a husband, You never neglected giving

(10:50):
back to the community.

Speaker 6 (10:52):
I think our our drawing.

Speaker 5 (10:53):
Point to one another is that we both represent that,
you know, And how cool is it that now both
of our sons signed an NIL deal. They come in
on the same class, and they're both playing college football
at Division I school. We ain't gotta pay for it,
you know what I mean? Like to me, that's that's

(11:13):
That's what I feel like life should be married.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
I feel like there should be a life for me,
the reality, the reality space for me. There's have been
a lot of tremendous other things that have come from that.
And this is not a knock against doctor Khalier or
any of the contestants that were a part of this
process and journey, But at the end of the day, like,

(11:38):
were you better coming out of it than when you
went in?

Speaker 6 (11:44):
And will packer and lighthearted.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
Entertainment gave me an amazing opportunity and an amazing platform with
Bravo and Peacock to show people not who Titus O'Neil is,
but who Fatty is Bullet is And so I can
rest very good annoying that Titus.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Can you give us the cliff notes version of where
you came from and how you became the man that
you are. You have a book that's called There's no
such thing as a bad kid.

Speaker 6 (12:13):
That you know.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
I just was amazed by give us that that cliff notes.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
Quick cliff No, I'm a product of a sexual assault.
My mother was breaked out eleven years old, had me
at the age of twelve. I was labeled kid that
would be deader in jail by the time I was sixteen.
Grew up in poverty, being told you know that, what
I'll never do, how I'll never be got.

Speaker 6 (12:37):
A chance to go to a place called the Floridashire
as boys ranch.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
At that place, mister pat Minogue said the two sentences
that really changed my life. The first one was There's
no such thing as a bad kid. And he said
that in the midst of me getting ready to get
kicked off of the Boys Ranch, and he refused to
allow me to be dismissed. The second thing was, you know,
he told me that he loved me and that he

(13:01):
believed in me. Well, a lot of people had told
me that they loved me and that they believed in me,
but they turned it around and abused me, beat me,
cursed me, etc. But nobody ever told me that they
actually believed in me. They told me they loved me,
but then it was complete opposite of love. So because
of that conversation, because of that space that the Florida
Shares Boys Ranch, I became the first person in my

(13:22):
family to graduate.

Speaker 6 (13:23):
From high school, first person in.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
Front of my family to graduate from college University of Florida.
Numerous honors and accolades, but the greatest accolade and the
greatest prize for me is and I always will be
my children, TJ, Titus, and Leah. I wrote a second
book which Mark actually contributed to that book as well,
Wrestling with Fatherhood, which basically chronicled my journey to my championship,

(13:50):
journey to to my greatest title. I think every man
that has a child, regardless if they're a ceo ww Legend,
WW Superstars, NFL MVP. If they have a child, that's
the greatest title to ever have. And you know, having
the opportunity to not only raise my children, but helped
three hundred plus kids go to college over the last

(14:12):
fifteen years, running the largest back to school bash in
the entire country, thirty thousand backpacks. We do it at
Raymond James Stadium, health, physicals, all the things that I
didn't have as a kid. So I just know that, like,
this isn't a fatteaus bullet thing. This is what God
had planned for me, even in uncfortunate circumstances. And you know, again,

(14:39):
if people say what my infinity to my brotherhood, what
Mark is, It's not because he was the world's strongest man.
It's because I know his backstory. I know he grew
up poor in Sylsby, Texas. I knew that all the
things that he had to endure to get to what
he got to. I was in the car when he
considnced me man out because they prank them. And I

(15:01):
was there front row and center when the whole hall
of pain began.

Speaker 6 (15:06):
You know what I mean, Mark was done. But how
he said you.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
Were going to respect me you were going to I
don't play like He was very matter of factly to
the most powerful man in sports and entertainment at the time,
and that in itself said you know, that was the
stamp of approval that he didn't need, but he got
it from me as a brother because he was what

(15:33):
I felt like black men should be in every sense
of the word.

Speaker 6 (15:38):
He went from something, he went from nothing to something.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
He pours into other people, and he uses his platform
to help so many people, and I just I appreciate
you know, this platform to be able to say thank you,
you know to him. We'll text every once in a while,
I know we'll text a whole hell of a lot
more than that'.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
Hey, I'm gonna call CLINICX and get a deal because.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
My eyes are leaking a little bit.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Thank you so much for joining us, man, and thank
you for that message too, because last Mark said, a
lot of people don't know that story, and you being
able to share that now has given us another platform
to continue these conversations.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
You're credit through the world.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Man.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
We appreciate you, and keep doing the great work, and
congratulations on all your success and keep keep pushing. But hey,
make sure you make sure you have your phone on
on Saturdays.

Speaker 6 (16:39):
Hey, I'll tell you what, man, how about we do this.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
When we lose the draw. The Gators win, y'all have
me on the show next week. The Gators lose, y'all
have me.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
That's a yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
I can tell you what one hundred percent certainty. I
want you to learn the eyes and take it. You're
gonna have to sing it. I'm telling you what, one
hundred percent certainty if the game is winning, I'm here friends,
y'all be there's gonna be some slow sta.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (17:26):
I'll tell you right now. I'm doing the shore we do.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
We're down for it.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Were down you on next Thursday, no matter what, no
matter what, you don't.

Speaker 6 (17:34):
All right, we got it locked in. We locked in.
Appreciate you, brother, bustle up.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
See you next week, all right, man, I appreciate it. Man.

Speaker 6 (17:43):
That is outstanding.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
So we will have him again next week
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