Prediction Thursday: NCAA Transfer Portal Shake-Up, Texas Volleyball’s Big Win, NFL Coaches on the Hot Seat & MLB MVP Race Heats Up

Today is “Prediction Thursday”, the guys talk about the NCAA changes to the transfer portal. Some NFL coaches are on the early hot seat. Texas Volleyball team defeats another top 12 team. We give our predictions for College Football and the NFL. Kyler Murray has some controversy. We have some Texas football talk. The Major League Baseball MVP race is a tight contest. “The World’s Strongest Take!” Plus, Eric Henry of “Horns 24/7” and “Legends of the Locker Room” talks to Quan Cosby. You can hear it all here on “The Morning Kickoff Show!”

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We've talked a little bit about volleyball just a little bit,
and we're gonna talk a little bit more about it
a little bit later. But the women's volleyball team has
been outstanding this year and one of the things that
has helped a lot of sports across the nation has
been the transfer portal, and it also has been some

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issues when it comes to the transfer portal, the timing.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Of it all.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Remember last year in the middle of the playoffs, there
were people that were opting out because they needed to
get into transfer portal. There was a time when Texas
had to deal with Malik Murphy where he had to
get into the transfer portal.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
And it creates this.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Bad, bad feeling for a lot of people because as
a player, other players under standing.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
You know, being in the locker room, they understand you.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Gotta go do what you gotta do, but you also
have an opportunity to finish out something that you started
with your brothers. And now you start to look at
what this transfer portal has.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Become and it's a lot of chaos for the coaches.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
They start losing their mind when it comes to the
transfer portal. So you start to think about this, and
I want you to hear from Paul Finebaum and the
changes that are being made to the transfer portal. They
have closed off the spring transfer park, so basically in
the spring you got to wait till summertime. But I

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think it's something that needed to be done because of
all the chaos that it causes.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Last year, last year Rich, the schedule was so screwed up.
You had the backup quarterback in Penn State announced he
was leaving while Penn State was getting ready for a
playoff game. That's where we are, and it completely affects
every aspect from the portal to coaching change. If somebody
asked me to day, hey what about this guy for.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
That job, I'm like going.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Not hirable if he's in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
And the playoffs don't end till January twenty first.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
And you start to think about the transfer portal and
you say, Okay, well.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
When, how? Why?

Speaker 1 (04:22):
What if this moment happens because there were so many
last year's win, winter portal window open was December the
ninth through the twenty eighth. The spring portal window opened
from the sixteenth to the twenty fifth. The total number
of FBS scholarship transfers has increased yearly and surpassed three thousand,

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two hundred transfers in twenty twenty four to twenty five seasons. Wow,
so you and if the elimination of the spring transfer
period will move the NCAA to consider it. In recently
years it was first established as a fifteen day window
in April two thousand and three and mark the deadline

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for players to transfer.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
And be immediately eligible.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
In twenty twenty four twenty five, it was reduced to
a ten day period lack. This year alone, there was
more than eleven hundred FBS scholarship players that entered the
transfer portal just in the month of April.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Good lord, you know what's going to become more valuable
than it is right now? What's that is the guy
that wants to be at that university. He's not leaving regardless.
And then you just say, coach, my dad went to
school here, my mother went to school here.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
I want to be here. This is where I want
to be.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, I'm not trying to get the max money, but
I need I just want to be fair. Just make
it fair. And I'm staying here because I want to
play here. I want to play in this So that
that is going to become very valuable in college football.
That we have the opportunity for that, which is kind
of like the way that it used to be when

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guys would go to a university and they would stay there.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Now people change their minds, you know, well, and coaches
changes too. So true you come to a school, Yes,
if you are, I'm coming to play for you hard.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Right. If you go to Florida, I'm going to Florida.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
If you're a legacy, then you're coming to the university
that you want to go to.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Right.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
But if this was your dream school, and that's where
the conversation comes a little bit different, because everybody's dream
school isn't the same dream school anymore because there's so
many opportunities out there.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
And if you come to.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Your dream school and your idea is to play for
your dream school, and you're not getting on the field
for your dream school, but you get an opportunity to
go and play somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Mike Michael Taff is the greatest example. He could have.
He could have went to Tarltan State.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, he could have went to a couple different He
could have went to a bunch of places. But he
wanted to be here in Austin, and he worked his
rear end off. It was rewarded for it, and was rewarded. Yes,
and it took a while. Novel concept, It took a while.
I have a kid in college and I'm telling them

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the same thing.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Wait, your turn. Keep working.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
My twenty year old self would destroy my eighteen year
old self. My twenty one year old self would laugh
at me at nineteen and twenty. It just takes, sometimes
take one year for all your gifts to start to
play in. So you know, I'm get off my soapbox.
But I'm just saying, like, for the for the sake

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of good college football, which we want good good college football.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
We don't want mediocre.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Average every year it changes. I'm not a fan of it,
but I'm where my feet are. But you know, you
got to stand where you are. But I like to
see it be more. I love where I'm at, and
that's where I want to be.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
But it also goes to coaches having conversations with you
and saying, hey, man, you're not going to play here too.
I man, I got to replace I gotta I'm recruiting
over you now because that happens too, and so the
discouragement of it. But the main thing is now coaches
can go into a lot of you know, a lot

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of people don't have to worry about this because of
the recruiting cycle and the way that some teams don't
make the playoffs and they're looking to grab a player
off of a team that is in the playoffs, and
this is their opportunity. So that changes and the coaches
don't have to over recruit during that time. Again, where
you're you hear it all the time. I got to

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recruit the players that I already got here. So the
conversations can be more focused on the football aspect of
what's going on as opposed to all right, who's coming,
who's leaving. You know, that's why all these schools have
general managers. Now, that's why all these schools have that
that front office, so to speak, in those particular moments.

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So you start to understand that this is a different
game when it comes to where we are with college
football now, I mean think about it. You have signing
day in a I mean in December, then you have
it again in the spring. They need to push everything

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back with only that. But the only problem is with that,
you don't get those kids that are able to get
into school early if you press it back.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Now, should you just do it for the spring sports?

Speaker 1 (10:05):
All the people that are playing baseball, basketball, hockey, wherever
part of town or part of the country that you're in,
where your spring sport, you can sign your letter of intent,
do it then, But then you look at what Jonah
Williams was able to do. Jonah Williams was a rare

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situation where he signed football scholarship, got onto school, but
ended up playing baseball for the university. So here he
is at that time. That's a rare situation where a
kid he was supposed to be playing high school baseball
last year and he was playing left field in the
SEC game.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
There's the exceptions. Harry Rulee agree, agree.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
And he was coming to play football, but he was
talented enough to be baseball and got a chance to
play in the SEC.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
That don't normally happen. I don't. That didn't normally happen.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
So that just goes to show that that early signing
period does benefit some, but it puts a lot of
pressure on these players to decide where they're going to
go to school, and then not rushing to the decision
because they've been very recruited since they were a freshman. Right,
But you start to look at what is your plan?
But the transfer portal window. We'll hear from Eric Henry

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of Horns two four seven he will be joining us
at seven thirty four lifetime long horn. Kwan Cosby joins
us at eight seventeen, and of course we've got so
much more. But coming up next, there's a lot of
coaches on the hot seat. We talked about Mike McDaniel,
but there are some other ones that are getting that
smoke too. We'll talk about it right here on the

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Morning Kickoff on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred The Zone.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Welcome back to the morning.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Kickoff right here on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred The Zone.
Coming up in the next segment, we have our guy
Eric Henry of Horns or seven breaking it down as
we get closer and closer in tech game day as
the Texas Longhorns will be taking on the Sam Houston
State University bear Cats dk R seven pm kickoff seven

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fifteen on SEC Network Plus. But you can definitely hear
everything right here on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred design
with the voice of the Texas Longhorns, Craig Way, Roger Wallace,
and of course Will Matthews, former Texas Longhorn.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Is that really such a thing as a bear Cat?

Speaker 3 (12:38):
I don't know. I mean, I'm not saying that Jumalon
Perkins and that, and I'm just.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
I'm just like, what I mean they got They might
be the way that they call it.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
It might be something a type of form of a cat.
So okay, yeah, I'm gonna have to google because.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
I mean that probably would be a good choice because
that way you do is yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Don't hang out in the woods Martin. Now, that's not
my claim to fame.

Speaker 6 (13:04):
Is it is a mammos to the southeast part of Asia.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
It is an actual animal. There you go, there's your answer.
Did you google it? Yes? Yeah, Google Google. Yeah, that's
that's how you get.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
To you all right, Yeah, education, yeah, getting, we're getting
learned today.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
We're getting learned today.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Well, somebody else that needs to be learned is the
coaching staff in the NFL. The NFL stands for not
for long, and for a lot of these coaches, this
is where the rubber meets the road, as they like
to say. We talked a lot about Mike McDaniel yesterday
and how he just sounds like he's at wits end gone,

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But out of all of these coaches that we're about
to discuss, he actually has a winning record. It just
happens to be that they're not winning when they need
to be winning. Mike McDaniel is twenty eight and twenty five.
He's in his fourth season, not looking good. The team
looks like they're off. And sometimes you can't let the

(14:04):
kids have cereal for breakfast, I mean for dinner all
the time, you don't have ice cream.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
You can't be the best loser either, exactly. So who
wants to be that guy? And it seems to be somebody.
It seems like that is where he is right now.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
He's eight of eleven over his last two seasons and
hasn't won a playoff game in four seasons, So that
is where he is on the hot seat. Brian Dayball
comes in at number two. He's eighteen and thirty four.
He's eighteen thirty four and one with a winning percentage
of three forty nine.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, and they played their behinds off last week? Is
he in where they do that category? Exactly? Where he
can continue to have a job. And it's not a job.
It's not even only him, it's Joe Shean too, the
general manager who once again guys go that have now
started to flourish. Sakuon Barkley was the MVP goes to

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the Super Bowl wins two thousand, I mean, everything that
you could possibly want for your squad. He goes and
do it? Does it for another team? Let me let
that guy go. Yeah, And Daniel Jones, who seems to
be now Danny Dimes again where its diamond? So he's
doing what he's supposed to be doing. It's hard and

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this is the deal. He's nine and twenty seven over
the last three seasons, so this is his fourth year
with a winning percentage of three forty nine. That's not
you can't no, that's not where that happens. That's not it.
That's a good baseball average exactly. You might win a

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batting title. And then you get to Brian Callahan with
my batting average one fifty eight.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
He is terrible.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
He's in his second season, he's three and sixteen.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
And now you have.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
The number one pick overall, cam Ward, who is no nonsense.
He is no nonsense. Cam wants to win. Every place
he's been, he's been a winner. And yet this team
looks like they are moving in slow motion still to
this day. And is this going to be his fault?

(16:25):
Is it the front office's fault. There's a lot of
people that can be to play in fraud.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
If he stays there.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
It's his fault if he don't speak up and say, hey,
I want to do like what Jimmy Johnson did back
in the day.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
I want to take a one in.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Sixteen, two and fifteen team and make him a super
Bowl champion in three years. These are my teammates I'm
playing with. Everybody that's got the same uniform as me.
Is your job as a coach and in the front
office to put this same players that have the same

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kind of passion around me to be a winner. And
that's that's where the time MEAs to road. You talk
about where the time MEAs to road. A lot of
nobody calls out the coaches and the administration. You go
out and get a guy that you consider him to
be the guy.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Oh, we got a guy. What you gonna do? Joe Barrow?
He's a guy.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
But they spend more money on guys catching the ball
and guy's blocking. Make that makes sense to me. Okay,
keep Chase. You know what, man, we just gonna have
to lose Higgins. We just gonna have to lose him. Yeah,
let's upgrade this offensive line. How about left tackle on
and right tackle? How about that? No, we're gonna play

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a guy an exorbited amount of money, Hendricks, watch it.
Why didn't if you wasn't gonna pay him, do the
best you can in the draft, give him up. Get
somebody for the low low price that can still develop
into something, and you can. They're milable, you can coach him.

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These guys, it's they fault. It's it's the administration fall
and the coaches fault. I don't blame all the athletes
all the time. Everybody want to blame the athlete. Everybody
want to talk about art like you can't talk about
the guys that's doing the work.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
So Callahan is on hot seat number three for the
Tennessee Titans. They don't look good. The team doesn't look
like they're excited to be there. And we'll see what
ends up happening this week. You look at what's going
on with the Carolina Panthers. Dave Canalis. He is five
and twelve. He's got a two sixty three average win percentage.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
This is his second season.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
You benched Bryce Young, then you brought him back, and
now the team seems to be struggling again. Bryce Young
is twenty ninth amongst thirty four qualified quarterbacks with completion
percentages not very good. The Panthers offense is twenty fifth
in the offense. He too, is an offensive minded coach

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not working. NFC South is a division where you can win,
and you're not even in the conversation five and fourteen,
hot steak for sure. And then you have Kevin Stefanski,
Kevin Stefanski who had to deal with the two hundred
and thirty million dollar guarantee from Deshaun Watson. Then you

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have to bring in these quarterbacks Flackoh, Dylan Gabriel and
Schador Sanders. And let's not forget you bought in Kenny
Pickett at one point, so you had and Tyler Hutley.
And now you are looking at your roster over the
last couple of years. You're forty, this is your sixth season,
and you're supposed to be a genius too, and now

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all of a sudden, your team can't move the ball.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
You're one of the.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Lowest scoring teams in the NFL over the last couple
of seasons, and you can't get things right.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Hot sie Kevin should be gone, I mean, hot seat man,
just gone. And let the guy go the whole term,
the whole let's get another quarterback, or let's get a
rookie quarterback and it's gonna give me another year. Is
what he's doing. You know what he's doing. Everybody does.

(20:31):
Is it him or is it the general manager? No,
it's he's the offensive mind. Oh I need to bring
this quarterback in. I need a year to let him
know my system and then we're gonna see what he
can do next year. He keeps doing the same thing.
That's why they have so many quarterbacks.

Speaker 6 (20:47):
Because it seems like they had their quarterback and management
screwed it up with Baker Mason, with Baker, and then
all of a sudden, Hey we want to get a
bigger name, let's go for Deshaun and ever since then,
it's been downhill.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, Baker took them to the playoffs and got them
a playoff victory and they let him walk. So that's
that's that is bad management, that's bad coaching. There's a
lot that goes into it, but you know, it's a
group effort. When you get put on the hot seat,
it goes from top to bottom.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
It goes by the team effort.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
When we were talking about Mike McDaniel, it just looks
like the team is not responding to him anymore. To
it sounds like he's been punched in the face way
too many times. Yeah, and then you start to look
at some of these other teams and the program, the
organizations just don't seem to be a winning organization. The

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one position that I will look at, though, I will
look at the Tennessee Titans and see what that team
looks like, because there are some valuable pieces that are there.
You got Calvin Ridley who can get open, you got
some running backs, you got a good defense.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
That might be the.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Spot for somebody to go in there and try to
turn it around. When we come back, we'll talk to
Eric Henry of Horns two four seven and check him
out and see what the latest is on the forty
acres right here on a prediction Thursday edition of the
Morning Kickoff on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred The Zone.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
It's Thursday, so that can only mean one thing.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Our guy, Eric Henry of Horns two four seven joins
us as he always does at this time. You can
follow him on social media at Eric c Henry Underscore.
Not only is he joining us this Thursday, he's also
joining us on Saturday, as he will hop on in
the first hour of the pregame show this Saturday from

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Bevo Boulevard and hook him hang out E.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
How you doing, buddy, Good.

Speaker 7 (22:49):
Morning, Fails, good morning. Appreciate you having me on.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Man.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
You are a man that is on the grind non stop,
and I appreciate you taking the time to get up
with us this morning. But let's get right into some
of the stories that are out there. And one of
the biggest stories that I think that we're gonna touch
on this weekend is Texas and their rankings in the

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third down conversion part of it.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
We talked to coach Sark on.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Monday, and we're gonna talk to him again today. But
Texas and the frustrations on third down need to be
cleaned up like Game one.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
No doubt about it. Fellas. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (23:30):
I wrote a piece yesterday for Hornstree before seven dot
com talking about texas struggles in third down. They rank
one hundred and twenty fifth in the nation. Of course,
that's out of one hundred and thirty six teams in
third down conversion percentage. So here's kind of the details
behind that, right, so Hey, Texas is ending up in
way too many third and long situations right now. Part

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of the culprit for that, right is you go back
and look at it. It's like, man, are they running
the ball inefficiently on first downs?

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Putting behind the chains?

Speaker 7 (23:59):
Not exactly averaging five yards carry per run?

Speaker 8 (24:01):
Now, of course yards per carry, right that could be
a twenty yard run and then a zero yard run,
So that's kind of lost there. But really it's the penalties, right,
It's those pre sat penalties, holding penalties that take you
from first and ten to first and twenty fall start
safety to first and ten to first and fifteen.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
That's put Texas out.

Speaker 8 (24:18):
Of their forty five third down conversion percent third forty
five third down conversion opportunities, over a.

Speaker 7 (24:23):
Third of them have been third and over eight yards
to convert.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
So there's that.

Speaker 8 (24:28):
Secondly, Steve Starkey you talked about on Monday, he said, hey,
you know, missing on third in anything below three or
four yards is unacceptable.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
They've been good by the numbers, but.

Speaker 8 (24:41):
They've had seventeen conversion opportunities of four yards or less.
They're converting that about fifty two percent. You still would
want your offense right when you get that short to
be a little higher than fifty two percent, Right, you
want to be closed about seventy five percent when you're
any that few that short yardage to convert on third down.
So overall, got to get that cleaned up. But quite frankly,
they got to get some things cleaned up on first

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and second down as well too, but especially on third
down heading into SEC play, because guys, Florida and Oklahoma
are two of the nation's top defenses in defending on
third down. Oklahoma's ranked fourth on nation, Florida's ranked twentieth.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yeah, that's kind of it kind of makes your head
spin a little bit. But one of the things that
we were told going into the season was those pre
snap penalties. Coach Coach Start talked about it multiple times
at the pressers, we saw it in the games. We
even heard Art talking about it and the offensive lineman.
So to your point, that's something that needs to be

(25:39):
focused on as well.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Correct, you know no doubt.

Speaker 8 (25:43):
About it, right, I mean not just for the purposes
of being able to stay out a third and long. Right,
if you're gonna run Steve Sarkisian's offense, you've got to
have pre snap over right, You take a lot out
of the offense if you can't do some of those
things going to do pre snap and as I talk
about you guys, I think it was on Saturday on
the pregame show. What pre Stott motion does is it

(26:03):
helps identify the defense for the quarterback, right the mike
has to show itself. Some of the guys who want
to step up in the box maybe fake blitz. They
have to identify themselves, right. So that's a key part,
excuse me, of Steve Sarkison's offense.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Eric not showing all of that right now, I think
is smart because you don't have a lot of footage
of what guys are doing now, and Texas should be
able to beat the teams they're playing and to not
show all of that against them. I'm sure they will
see it against Florida. I'm very sure that we'll see

(26:39):
it against Kentucky. But they shouldn't do it right now.
Don't you think that it's a bonus that you can
still win and not and practice on all the things
that you really need to work on and have more consistently.
Just the penalty has got to go away, right It's
a catch twenty two.

Speaker 8 (26:58):
Mark, I would agree, you know, from a logic perspective
of what you're saying. The flip side to that is,
this isn't the veteran group that you had the last
few years, right. They need all the snaps they can get,
all the reps they can get trying to do this stuff,
especially considering when speaking with Steve Sarkasian during fall camp,
he noted, Hey, I wasn't pleased with some of the
pre snap stuff we did, right, So if you're not

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able to do it in preseason camp, you.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Kind of dial it back a little bit.

Speaker 8 (27:24):
Against Ohio State, you didn't see it as much at
a certain point.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Mark I. Again, from a logic.

Speaker 8 (27:29):
Perspective, you're not off base, but you can't just break
it out during the bye week and then you know
against Florida and Oklahoma be like, all right, we're gonna
do it. If the guys aren't able to execute it
well against Sam Houston, San Jose State and UTIP at home.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
But they're practicing against one of the top five defenses
in Cower football.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
Sure, sure, no, no no doubt about it, no doubt
about it.

Speaker 7 (27:51):
No.

Speaker 8 (27:51):
I would agree with you in terms of practicing, right,
And I'm not pushing back markets the pre snap stuff right.
I think just because the inexperience, right of these guys
jack injuries got here during you know, after spring camp, right,
that some of that stuff is still new to him
as far as Hey, the timing.

Speaker 7 (28:09):
A lot of this stuff is a timing thing, right.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Sometimes I think we can.

Speaker 8 (28:12):
Simplify it and say, all right, it's just before the snap,
you know, motion this way, motion that way. But when
the offense is still something you're kind of picking up
using injuries or like an Emmett Moseley as an example,
sometimes those things can get in your head. So again,
I from a logic perspective, I agree with you, but
I do think sooner than later, for the sake of
the entire offense, they need to start getting this thing

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up and running.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah, you got to practice it in games. It can't.
You're to your point.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
This isn't a team that is well oiled machine and
they have been around each other forever. This is a
team that they need to know where they're supposed to
be at all times and understanding what coach Sark wants
out of this offense. And right now we see it
every Monday, mug scratching his head and thinking he's like man,
We're still working through some much but yeah, I totally

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understand what you're saying there. Let me ask you this
because coming into this weekend, obviously we talked about the
third down and what needs to be taken care of there.
What is it that you're looking to walk away with
to say, okay, go heading into the bye week, these
are our focus points and then going into Florida, this
is where I expect to see this team.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yeah, I'm going to work in reverse. I'll start on defense.

Speaker 8 (29:25):
Colin Simmons, a guy who is as talented as he is,
he's supposed to fall into sacks against the UTEP, San
Jose State and Sam Houston. No disrespect of those programs,
but he's way too talented to be kept at bay
by those schools.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Right.

Speaker 8 (29:39):
This is going to sound so coach speaking, but I
do agree with Steve Sarkisian when he said, if that
guy just plays with the scheme of the defense, his talent,
his athleticability will take over. Beating a right tackle is
not the issue for Colin Simmons. He's been doing that
since he was seven years old. Right Beating a left
tackle or right tackle, that's not the issue. The issue
is him trying too hard, pressing, trying to get four

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or five sacks in one play. So that's something I'm
looking for in addition to the rest of the pass rush,
flip it on the offensive side of the ball. We
talked about third down conversion percentage and staying ahead of
the chains starting quickly this offense, and this isn't a
new thing, this offense, even heading back to you know,
at times last year, at times in twenty twenty three,
it took them two three four drives to really kind

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of get their footing. You want to see Texas come
out score a touchdown or too early to kind of
give them some confidence to say, hey, you want it
was the easiest way to shut down all these arch
the arch Manning talk.

Speaker 7 (30:33):
Go out and put twenty one points up in the
first quarter.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Right, So three touchdowns, right, three possessions touchdowns. That's right.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
I'm with you on that, and we'll see what happens
going into the weekend. As always, E, we appreciate you
taking the time. We will see you Bebo Boulevard this
Saturday starting at four o'clock from hook them hangout in
the winship circle. And also I'll see you eleven fifteen

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on the President.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Of to Day. My brother appreciate you as always, Mark
Harge appreciate it as always. Thank you fellas. All right, man,
talk to you soon.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
There is Eric Henry of Horns two four seven joining
us as always on Thursdays, but coming up next Texas
Volleyball handles their business and let's just say in dominating
fashion right here on the morning kickoff on Sports Radio
and thirteen hundred the Zone. Great stuff by Eric Henry

(31:30):
of Horns two four seven, as always he always brings it.
He will be joining us myself, Cam Parker or no,
no Camp Parker, myself, Mark Henry and Eric Henry of
Horns two four seven will be on Bevo Boulevard right
there at hook them hangout, bringing you the pre game

(31:51):
from four to six. Then we'll turn it over to
Craig Way, Roger Wallace and Will Matthews for network coverage
leading into the matchup between Texas and Sam Houston State.
This is your home for Texas football, so stay tuned
for all things Texas football, and also make sure you

(32:12):
tune into The Craig Way Show this afternoon from two
to five as Craig and Jake.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Will be bringing it to you as well.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
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He'll be giving away some tickets as well, and of
course you get a chance to listen to his great
stories as always. Come up at eight to seventeen we
will have Kwan Cosby and our Legends of the Locker

(33:04):
Room segment. I got a chance to spend some time
with Kwan yesterday. Shout out to the great folks at
that brand new HGB in Georgetown and Bud Like and
Brown Distributing for making it all possible. All right, let's
get into a Texas Volleyball let me just tell you
what Texas volleyball has been able to do this season

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has been short of amazing. You start to really look
at what this team is, who they are, and how
they go about their business. They all they do is
win no matter what. And what do I mean by
that they have defeated so far? They have defeated. They're
seven to zero against top ten teams. And what I

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mean by that they have six victories, six victories on
teams that are ranked in the top twelve. They've beaten
Creighton swept them, they beat Wisconsin, who was number eight,
swept them. Stanford and Louisville who were six and four
at the time, they beat them three matches to two.

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Then they just swept Arizona State and last night they
went to work and swept TCU. Huge, huge victories for
this Texas volleyball team. And that just doesn't that doesn't
do it justice when you start to think about who
this team is. And I don't know how volleyball is

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really decided, but if you're going by strength of schedule.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Texas is destroying everybody. My question to you hard is
why are they ranked number two? I mean, why is
Texas ranked number two? It seems like I'm here pretty soon.
Four teams in the top fifteen, No.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Ten, six, six teams in the top fifteen, top twelve.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
That's you number one in any any other form of fashion.
Did the other team that's ranked above them beat that
many teams? I would doubt it because your scheduling might
not be this Nebraska. Nebraska is eight No, so Nebraska

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is always good. They haven't met each other yet, but
I'm sure that they're going to have an opportunity to
face each other. But what we've seen from this Texas
volleyball team and the players that Jared Elliott has been
able to recruit, how they've been able. And again, people
don't care, I mean about the rankings until the end
of the year. Texas, they don't want to be number

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one until it's time to be number one, so they
want to keep going through what they're going through.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
But when you can continue to build around your program
and bring in top notch players every single time, it
is it is nothing short of impressive. When you look
at how Texas is in it every single year, especially
how they fit into the system.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah, they're not just getting the best player because they're
the best player they're going after players that fit their system.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
YEP, that is that is That's what it's all about.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
When you start to look at this team and where
they are getting some of these players from. And when
you're good, you're going to get the best of the best,
right And what Texas continues to do is bring in
the best of the best.

Speaker 6 (36:33):
Nebraska's defeated five top twenty five teams and three teams
in the top ten.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Yeah, so there you go. So they kind of they
kind of even, but not really. Yeh.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Texas was led yesterday by junior Tory Stafford's fifth double
double of the season. She had a match leading fifteen
kills in thirteen digs and she just continues to play well.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Set one. Guess who let them?

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Kary Spears continue to do her thing as well. Emma
Halter has done a really good job as well as
Abbie vander Wall.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
This team is a team.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
This is a group of young ladies that understand what
the mission is every single night. Their next game, they
will be taking on Baylor. Baylor's you know, Baylor's Baylor.
But it's an old matchup of Big twelve foals, So
we'll see what ends up. Happening with that. But I'm

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just excited for this team. As I said, it's their
fourth straight Top ten matchup that they have won, and
they've swept in those matchups.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Doesn't that make them.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
A reflection of their coach though, because of the consistency
in which he's coached over the last ten years.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Oh yeah, he's one of those guys that can walk
around and he's got facial recognition. You know, when you
go places and you see him walk in the gym.
If you're a volleyball player, that means somebody on your
squad is worthy of him walking in to watch you play. Now,
because now you know Texas is looked at is more

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than just a football school. They're an all sports school
because they're playing for national championships and being in the playoffs.
Great stuff by Texas Volleyball. Our number one is.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
In the books.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Coming back, we're gonna talk NFL. We're also gonna talk
college because it's Prediction Pride Thursday. We're Addiction Thursday edition
of the Morning Kickoff right here on Sports Radio AM
thirteen hundred The Zone. Welcome back to our number two
of the Morning Kickoff right here on Sports Radio Am

(38:49):
thirteen hundred, the Zone, Mike Harballhart's World Strongest Man w
W Hall of Famer de Mark Henry, and of course
we've got our guy Marcus behind the boards and our
number one. We talked about the hot seat for all
those that are involved in the NFL. A lot of
coaches are getting that smoke and they better win this weekend.
We also talked about the college football transfer Portal week

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window starting to shut down for the spring version of it,
which is our standing news for so many people. And
of course we just talked to Texas volleyball with another
big victory. They're fifth straight top ten victory and six
over a top twelve team, sweeping four of those.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
But right now you know what time it is.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
It's time to go to the nf of L and
make our picks. This is our prediction Thursday. I mean
we call it prediction Thursday. And there's a lot to
be desired when you start to look at some of
these numbers and where a lot of folks are.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Let me just tell you right now, when you look
at the numbers.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Hardball hards is leading the way seven and five, one,
Mark Henry, three and nine, and our guy Marcus holding
it down at five and seven. He made a comeback
from last week. He was four and two last week
I was four and two and Mark Henry, well for

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entertainment purposes.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Like I'm doing this. I think let's get it back.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
If I was winning, I'd be like, hey, man, listen,
I'm that dude. Yeah, I'm that guy.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Week three, we are ready and we're gonna start in
the NFL.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
I am rolling this.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Week with one Atlanta Falcons. The Atlanta Falcons are a
five and a half point favorite. I am taking the
Atlanta Falcons in game number one, Mark Henry, who.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
Did you have? Number one?

Speaker 2 (41:00):
I want to see the Patriots and the Steelers, and
I'm going with the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Minus one and a half.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
You are taking the Steelers, Marcus?

Speaker 6 (41:11):
Who do you at Buffalo? Bill's minus twelve and a
half against Miami. I just think Miami's in trouble.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yeah, this could be the night that we hear after
the game of the Yeah, like he's gonna be vaping
and he's gonna be looking for a new job.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Mark Henry, your pick.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
I'm going with the Rams and the Eagles, and I'm
gonna pick the lane the Rams.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
He is going with the Rams plus three and a half.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Marcus, who do you at.

Speaker 6 (41:44):
Going with the Commanders minus three and a half to
the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Speaking you know that their quarterback is not speaking.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Of the Raiders, I am going to take the Raiders
against Marcus.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
I am covering the three in a half.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Half with lost Vegas plus three and a half. My
final in NFL pick will be the Cincinnati Bengals. I
know that Joe Burrow is out, but I'm rolling with
Browning and we're gonna make it happen plus three.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Mark, I'm going Cowboys. And he hadn't already told us
he's a Cowboy fan.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
And I already told you, like you know this, this
is a this is a place where.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Eva flues can go in and get some get back.
Oh real.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
So he's got to go in there. This is the
team that he was fired from, and he should know
their talent as good as anybody and how to stop them.
So I'm going with the Cowboys based on the fact
that I think that I know the offense is going
to be the offense, but I think the defense is
going to step up against the Bears this week.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Marcus, Mark, you can be a homer. I can be
a homer two.

Speaker 6 (43:04):
I'm taking the Texans plus the one and a half
versus the Jaguars.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
As we wrote this earlier, you and I were talking
about this and you said it was one and a half.
I'm looking at it right now. That's jumped at two
and a half. Given that two and a half, then oh,
you're gonna tell I was gonna give you one and
a half.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
I was gonna give you the one and a half.
But be a little arrogant. Okay, I see that. And
here's the deal.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
The only team to ever start zero and three and
make the playoffs was the Houston Texans.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
So if there's a chance.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
This is a this is a divisional game, they have
to go out here and get a dub. But I
see what you're doing on that. I'm gonna let you
ride with it. You went two and a half, I'm
gonna there at least went by by a field goal. Okay,
I got you.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
You good? You good.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Now we're gonna go to the college game. College game
is right around the corner mark. We're gonna let you
start because this too is a homer pick.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
I'm cards I'm gonna go Texas Tech in Utah, Oh
that's ain't the one. Okay, go ahead, and I'm gonna
go with Utah.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Marcus Tech in Utah minus three and a half to
cover against Texas. Tech originally was gonna go against you
on that, but I decided I'm gonna stay away from.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
It and let you do your thing. Marcus, your pick
West Virginia plus twelven and a half versus.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Innsas West Virginia plus twelve and a half versus Kansas,
good pick right there. I am gonna roll with the
Arkansas Razorbacks. The Razorbacks are a team that a lot
of folks are trying to figure out. I like their quarterback.
They are seven and a half point favorite on the

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road against Memphis. I don't know much about Memphis, but
I know that Arkansas better go in there and represent
for the SEC. Taking Arkansas minus seven and a half.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Marcus Miami minus seven and a half is Florida. He's
going with the U.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Over the Florida Gators. The Florida Gators, their whole coaching
staff is in disarray. They're trying to figure out what's
next for them. So he is taking the U over
the Florida.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Gators minus seven and a half, Mark.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Henry, you know what, man, I'm gonna pick Indiana University.
I know they're basketball school, but I'm gonna pick Indiana
to go over the Fighting ALIONI you are taking Indiana
minus six and a half.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Not so fast, my friend to my man lead Corso.
I am going with Brett Belama the Fighting Belamus plus
six and a half. These are the type of games
that Brett Belama lives for, and it's a big ten matchup.
I'm going with Illinois plus six and a half.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
Marcus L.

Speaker 6 (46:06):
S u want minus one and a half over old miss.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Let that right there is a what's his name? Brian Kelly.
I'm still mad. Pick you didn't like my my decisions.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
We run the ball, we won the game. What are
you asking us far? I want winners minus one and
a half. L s U. Mark Henry, here's your homer.
Pick what you call me? A home man? Come out,
don't let the people. Let the people.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
I don't like you right now. Come on, I don't
like you. You know this is making me angry.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Come on. If it was not my anniversary of win
the world title at WW today, I might come over there.
Come on. I'm like you're gonna walk over here it back.
That's right.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
I'm I'm going ohe you over Auburn and six and
a half. Yep, six and a half. Oaklahoma over Auburn.
This is a big move for Hugh Frieze.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
But let me tell you this, that quarterback John Materier
is something special for Oklahoma. It's gonna be interesting to
watch that ball game. My final pick, my final pick
of the day is a big ten pick, and I
am going with my guy, Matt Ruhle. Matt Rule is

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one of those guys that you just you pull for
because I love what he does. I love the way
he goes about his business. He's an influential type of
coach and he's a no nonsense coach.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
They're playing Michigan, Michigan.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
This is a big game for the Michigan Wolverines. But
I'm taking Nebraska at home plus two and a half
to cover the two and a half. This is going
to be a nail bier football game. But I am
rolling with Nebraska this plus plus two and a half.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
This is one of those games that if shamal Moore
better put up a good fight or win this game
or he might be on the hot seat.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Really, yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
I don't think Schamar Moore is on the hot seat
because he's been falling on the sword for Jim Harball
for quite some time. And I think he's done enough
to warrant a little bit of grace with a brand
new quarterback. As you were talking about the number one
recruiting the land, who looks smooth out there and has
been playing pretty high level football. He got challenged and

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he looks like a true leader on the sideline, And
I think that this is gonna be a lot closer
ball game just because of what Matt Rule brings to
the table every single time. Uh, He's got Patrick Mahomes
at quarterback. I mean Dylan Royola, who walks around like
he's Patrick Mahomes. His mannerisms, everything about him, he thinks

(49:00):
these he thinks he's Patrick Mahomes. So we'll see how
that plays out. But I am rolling with Nebraska in
this ball game. So just so we're clear, Mike hardboharts
and by the way, and we'll be posted on AM
thirteen hundred to zone in all of our social media's
as well. I've taken Atlanta minus five and a half,

(49:22):
Las Vegas plus three and a half, the Bengals plus three,
Arkansas minus seven and a half, Illinois plus six and
a half, and Nebraska plus I picked mine, but I'm
about to pick yours right now. Mark Henry went with
the Steelers minus one and a half, the Rams plus
three and a half, Cowboys minus one and a half,

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Oh You minus six and a half, Indiana minus six
and a half, and Utah minus three and a half.
Then we're also going to buffs Buffalo bills for Marcus
Tonight minus twelve and a half, the Commanders minus three
and a half, Huston plus two and a half, West
Virginia plus twelve and a half, Miami minus seven and

(50:06):
a half, and LSU minus one and a half. And folks,
this is just for intertainment purposes. Just let me you know,
this is our fun. If you win, congrats. If you lose,
don't be blaming us. We told us it was just
for fun. You know what we're about to do. We're
about to have a lot of fun with our guy

(50:28):
Kwan Cosby and our legends of the locker Room segment.
That's right, folks, get ready, you're gonna be in for
a tree right here on the morning Kickoff on Sports
Radio AM thirteen.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Hundred The Zone.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Welcome back to the morning kickoff right here on Sports
Radio AM thirteen hundred The Zone. Coming up in the
next segment, you know what time it is, it'll be
the World's Strongest Man bringing you his hype train as
all way. I mean hype train, his World's strongest take
as always and you know how he gets down. But

(51:03):
you know what we're getting ready to do. We're about
to have a conversation with one of the legends of
the locker room, one of the best players to ever
play at the University of Texas. We got a chance
to kick it a little bit yesterday as we were
both at the HHB at in Georgetown. We got a

(51:25):
chance for him to sign some autographs. The people were
real excited to be with him. He is one of
the record holders. He scored a touchdown in the championship
or excuse me, in the Fiesta Ball. He is my
guy from the two five four. He is the one
the only Kwan Cosby. Good morning, my brother, how you doing.

Speaker 5 (51:47):
Good morning my man?

Speaker 9 (51:49):
Two part four up and at him pretty good man
fired up. We had a good time yesterday at the
New ATV the little bud light action and yeah, read
to rock and roll.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
So the funny thing about that is Kwan and I
we're both from the two five four. He's from Mark,
I'm from Colleen, Texas, but we live in Austin, Texas.
I live in Fluterville, quand lives in Austin. As we
were driving to Georgetown yesterday, we felt like we was
going back to our original cities because that's how far
we was driving.

Speaker 9 (52:19):
Yes, no, bro, we went in Georgetown. We was in Georgetown,
Kentucky or Georgetown, you know, uh, Georgetown by d C.

Speaker 5 (52:30):
Man that we was up there. But it was fun though.

Speaker 9 (52:33):
Man, a lot of great longhornge Uh. The excitement for
you know that that new opening. Uh people someone like
I'm nine minutes from it. I'm in Florence, which tells
you how far it is. But just cool event. Kudos
to Agnes all the people at the Brown Company, and
we already know hbs to go so and always good

(52:55):
to have fun with long worn family and my brother.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
I got a question for both of you, guys.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Are y'all sample guys do y'all when y'all go to
the grocery store the shop, do you go to the
aisle where they have all the samples.

Speaker 5 (53:09):
Brother does the.

Speaker 9 (53:09):
Barre poop in the woods, you know, And hey, Mark,
these grocries so high. I'm gonna get some of my
money back. So when I rolled through there, I want
some sample everything. It makes you feel a little bit
better because I got a small basket and I'm paying
three hundred dollars. I just chip off. Man, I took
a couple of samples. So maybe that was like.

Speaker 5 (53:31):
To eighty nine.

Speaker 9 (53:32):
And so no, man, And they actually typically have some
really good stuff rolling.

Speaker 5 (53:38):
By, and so no, man, I'm at my appetizers.

Speaker 9 (53:41):
You call it what you want, but I at ATV
a place that I trust. I'm sampling just about everything.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Yes, sir, you know.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
The funny thing was too when we were walking around,
you ended up leaving and you ran in the Phillip
in the Philip Geiger former Texas longhort in the park
a lot, and he came down the aisle and I
was like, you just missed Kwan. He said, Nope, I
saw him in the park lot. I got a chance
to talk to him in the parking lot on the
way out. Man, Longhorns everywhere everywhere.

Speaker 9 (54:09):
Man, it was so good to see him and his
beautiful family. Brother and of course you know your grand
baby and son came by. So that's what it is, man.
That's what's so cool about this area and Mark you
experienced it the same man. We run into each other
getting barbecue, you know, on Lamar. So it's just it's
so much love. It's a family perspective and seeing all
of our brothers, sisters.

Speaker 5 (54:31):
And the family that they grow. It's real, man. So
it's cool.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
We're talking to lifetime Longhorn and legend Kwan Cosby, one
of the best dudes out there. Quant You know, we
talk a lot about this football team and what the
expectations are just as a fan base you coming into
a new season. What people don't truly understand about the
nuances that go into the ballgame when you're really pretty

(54:56):
much bringing in a brand new quarterback, brand new offensive line,
new wide receivers, and then put on top of that,
you have guys that are out like you're running back,
your two running backs that you expected to be an integral.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
Part of your team. Both of those guys go out.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
You bring in a transfer in Emmitt Mosley at the
wide receiver position. He hasn't had a chance to play,
so there still is some chemistry issues on this football
team right now.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Correct, man, that's so real.

Speaker 9 (55:26):
One of the reasons I have to take off from
you guys is I was fortunate enough to go sit
down with Sark a little bit and do a show
and we talked a lot about that. And this is
a cool thing, man. Well, one thing we have with
Start is the transparency is real, man. And I know
he talked about the booze and that trickles down to
even arts talking about it, which I think is very
good for life and development. Amen, own it, talk about it.

Speaker 5 (55:50):
And do what you need to do to get better.

Speaker 9 (55:52):
But I mean, there's eight out of our eleven offensive
starters that are you know, sophomores are freshmen. I mean,
that's real. And listen, if you take away the Manning
name the national media.

Speaker 5 (56:06):
They would have been cool. We would have been in
the mix.

Speaker 9 (56:08):
We would have certainly probably still started top three, top
five because of what our defense had returning.

Speaker 5 (56:13):
But I don't know that there would have been.

Speaker 9 (56:14):
Number one, and I don't know that they would have
been Heisman talking all the craziness. So unfortunately, in the
polarizing world that we live in. We were hyped and
talked about it in a crazy way, but there is
developmental things and what we talked about it in stark
answer that question is like, hey man, you are a freshman.
Now two things was very very different. I was a freshman,

(56:35):
but I had a veteran Vince Young, who had just
won a Rose Bowl after that. I mean literally arguably
one of the if not the best quarterbacks to ever
play in college football. And I don't mean that in
like a disrespectful way. He just he was that good
on that level, and there's a lot of people who
talk about it. And then we had a veteran line.
I was twenty two versus eighteen, so and in still

(56:59):
I like, you know, a deer in headlights for the
first few games. So man, it's growing pains, it will grow. Yeah,
you know, Arch owns it. Hey man, I need to
be better and I truly believe, and I have the
optimism that he will be four five really truly five
new linemen. But Gooseby got some time last year, so man,

(57:20):
this stuff takes time. We got another game this weekend
that they can grow, and then a bye week that
is going to be so vital for getting ready for
a crazy October. So, man, I'm optimistic about it. And
last but not least, the betteran part of them all,
even though they have some young kids too. In defense,
they're gonna give a chance every freaking game that offense improved,

(57:42):
We're gonna be where we need to be again in
my opinion, Kwan.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
We talk about the quarterbacks, we talk about the defense
and all the other factors.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Being a wide receiver, is.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
There one guy over there that you look at and go, Man,
I'd love to sit down with him and tell him
what I see as an expert and as an as
an analyst, a.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Coach, a former player.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
We were everybody's kind of mesmerized right now by the
shiny new toy livingstone or livingstone. Uh, who is it
that you look at over there and go, why that
guy's got it?

Speaker 3 (58:18):
We just he just needs to get a little fine tuning.

Speaker 9 (58:21):
Man, that's such a great question mark. And truly, I
think it would be the collective group because especially those
what we so on, you know, quote unquote starters, you know,
because essentially we go there's a couple of kind of
little things about him catching the ball behind his eyes
when he runs that post, he kind of turns his
hand backwards like it's over the shoulder versus catching it

(58:43):
in front of him, because you just can't catch what
you can't see, and so it's it's I've seen him
make that correction, but unfortunately, and when it's full speed,
we go into some of those habits that we haven't done,
because that dude is he's straight line, he's a beast,
and he can be like a lotment Swede that I
played with who had a great career here, and the

(59:04):
irony of it is that was one of his same
little things and who at a lot of people didn't
kind of notice and think about it. I didn't see
more in the last game, but I know he's good
and he's gonna be rolling. I think he could play
a little bit of a role like Golden did.

Speaker 5 (59:19):
Golden we didn't see him the last.

Speaker 9 (59:21):
Week, you know, early in the season, but when he
developed and him and Quinn got on the same page,
become an absolute beast and first rounder who's still making
plays for Green Bay, and so I really think he
can do that. I think he's been open in some cases,
but that's some of the developmental things we're talking about
so as he gets healthy and take care of business.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
He's one of my favorites.

Speaker 9 (59:44):
I kind of sat with him a couple of times
at the basketball game, so I actually have talked to
him a little bit. And then living Stone kudos to
him because he's doing exactly what he needs to do.

Speaker 5 (59:53):
He's a great player. He's earned this way.

Speaker 9 (59:55):
Who's also young, but because trade, you know, because we
may have a guy over the top doubling him because
of his you know, because they know what he's capable of.
Levingson's getting the one on one coverage and he's taking
advantage of him.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
So that's that's a good thing.

Speaker 9 (01:00:12):
And even though Arch had a tough game, he is
making that play.

Speaker 5 (01:00:17):
He is progressing.

Speaker 9 (01:00:18):
He is seeing that piece of it where all right,
these guys are rolling to their side. Livingson's over here
and has to play, and Livsin's making it. So it's fricking,
which is so funny. One thing I will say, I
always go back and rewatch the game. Oh man, I
heard them.

Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
Oh this is so much like the Coche McCoy and
George Simpley. They let them beat them.

Speaker 9 (01:00:40):
We heard that their roommates and all that we heard
it five billion times back in the day.

Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
Let manning and living some b roommates.

Speaker 9 (01:00:49):
And be themselves because ultimately, what happens in a fan
base and then you start putting them in that boat
and the day they're not that, you're gonna then start
booing in. So I appreciate what Livingson's doing because he's
been a huge for you know, making plays when the
other guys are double but collectively, Mark, I think that's
all just this is the reason I'm so optimistic, because

(01:01:11):
I don't see anything that's so broken that we're just
we're done, We're screwed with, we miscalculated, we don't have
the Jimis and Joe's. It's just the little things about
this game and about the continuity of an offense that
I know Sark and the developmental staff he has will
continue to work.

Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
On and get better throughout the year.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
We have no doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
And talking to you made me feel a lot better
last night, makes me feel even better today.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Appreciate you jumping on with us.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
I know you're a busy man, you got so much
stuff going on, but I appreciate you taking the time
and we look forward to seeing what this Texas football
team does in the near future, Man as always, and
I appreciate you representing the two five foot as best
as we can.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Man, appreciate you all already.

Speaker 9 (01:01:56):
Man, he appreciate y'all having me on. I don't ever
have too much time to jump on with my two
five four brother and the goat my man, Mark Henry.
So appreciate what y'all do, and I'll talk to y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
So all right there he is, Kwan Cosby one of
the best to ever do it. And people can always
talk about the roommate thing with Colt and Shipley. Kwan
was part of that too. He just didn't live with
him because he was putting up big numbers as well.
So when we come back, we're gonna talk to the
world's strongest man as we hear from him as he

(01:02:26):
gives us his world's strongest take. Right here on the
morning kickoff on Sports Radio and thirteen hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
The one you already know what time it is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
You heard the beat drop WWE Hall of Famer and
the world's Strongest Man, d Mark Henry brings you his
world's strongest take.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Take it away, big fella. Hright, what's up man? You
know what time it is? What time is it?

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
If time by the world's strongest take by the world's
strongest man, ma Gus. Back then they didn't know me.
Now I'm hot, of course they're all on me. Well, guys,
today my take people, people, people, It's about the Arizona

(01:03:18):
quarterback Kyler Maarray. Kyler Murray recently posted a photo of
him and a Michael Vick jersey, who he's been a
big fan of since he was a kid.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Didn't see a correlation.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Because he has pitbulls and he took a picture with
his dogs. Didn't make any wasn't trying to make fun
of Michael Vick, was not trying to.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Condone cruelty to animals.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Just posted a photo of him and his dogs, and
he just so happened to have a Michael Vick jersey. Well,
in no shape or form do I condone animal cruelty,
said Mary. He said that for me, it was a

(01:04:13):
personal thing representing one of my favorite players, Michael Vick.
I admired him so much growing up and then being
at home with my dogs, Trunks and Swoosh, who get
treated like kings, he said. But I saw how it
affected the social media fan base and I took it down.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
When is enough enough on this social media's world.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
I'm tired, extremely tired of defending actions, especially wholesome actions.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Or an opinion. It's America, we man harge.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Why are we so focused on messing with people about
their opinion? It's not based on fact. There's nothing incht
in stone. And by the way, Michael Vicks spent six
years in prison, he served his debt and paid his
debt to society.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
He went on and started.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
An animal activism UH network for people that had been
involved with dog fighting.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
How do you fix it?

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
He went and talked to people that owned the dog
fighting rings, put itself in danger. These are these are
people that will do you dirty. But he went to
him anyway to be an advocate for the animals. When
are you gonna give forgive him, when you're gonna let

(01:06:04):
him let it go?

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
First off?

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
But my thing is with Kylermarray, and my take is this,
Kyler Murray is a young guy. He is a football player.
He's not a pastor. He's not a head of state.
He's not somebody that we look at and go, oh,

(01:06:30):
I need to I really need to follow suit and
take advice from this guy. It's kind of going back
to that Charles Barklay thing. Everybody that's an athlete is
not a role model. But my take is that the
Internet and what we have to put up with is

(01:06:52):
not valid and it needs to be controlled more by
the Internet servers.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
What's say you?

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Meanwhile, you, why do you have to be on the internet.
You don't have to be That's what I'm saying. So,
but why shouldn't he? But my point did not have
to everybody else? But my point is does it matter
what other people think? Does it matter that people.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
For him to take it down and apologize, But.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
He didn't have to. It's my point. He didn't have to.
He didn't have to apologize.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
People are going you can't make people. You can't make
somebody apologize for something that he didn't do wrong. He
didn't see wrong in what he was doing. He didn't
do it on purpose. He go back and look at
all of his pictures. Just because he just happened to
have a Michael Vick jersey on, people just automatically assume
that he's a bad person.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Right now, I'm not a Jersey guy. Apparently he is right,
and I wanted to see and.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
He represented for somebody that was his idol. That's what
he's saying.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
He had four other photos in his log of him
with jerseys.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
On other players doing things with his dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Nobody said nothing, but because of the Michael vic drama,
and it's just very all those people, how valid all
those people that were commenting on him.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Did they have their picture up? Did they have can
you go back? You can go back and look at
anybody's profile and try to figure out who they are
and then go back and find something on somebody. That's
why it's so tiring to me that every day we
got to talk about something that's on social media because
all they're doing is feeding you with nonsense. Do your

(01:08:37):
own research, find out what the true meaning of that
person or who Kyler Murray is. People just don't like
Kyler Murray. Just say that. Don't say it because he
wore jersey and had a because he got pit bull,
So what a lot of people got pit bull for real?
I mean they are walking around, they can walk around
with him, Michael Vick jersey and means nothing. Michael Vick

(01:08:58):
was his favorite player, and it wasn't even when Michael
Vick was getting in trouble. He was wearing a Michael
Vick jersey from Virginia Tech. It wasn't even an NFL jersey, right, right.
So the nonsense continues to be that people can't they
can't formulate their own opinion because they got to listen
to so many other nonsense people out there. That's the
thing that bothers me the most. That's why I don't

(01:09:19):
get into it. That's why I always say, don't swing down.
Those people have no bearing on my life, So I
don't give a dog on what they say. And you're
feeding into it once exactly once you start interacting, it's
over because then everybody piles on. Yeah, that's the world's
strongest tech by the world's strongest man. We'll come back
close out the show and send you to damn Patrick.
But I gotta get this off my chest. Uh Oh.

(01:09:43):
The MVP is the MVP, and I don't care who's
listening to me. Right here on the morning kickoff on
Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred The Zone.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
Great show that we've had today.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Make sure you get over to the podcast page and
get the latest as we talk to Eric Henry of
Horns two for seven. We also got a chance to
talk to Lifetime Longhorn, Kuan Cosby, and I want to
give out a shout out to the Harris family that
came out to the brand new grand opening of the
HHV Jerome and Sherry. Their son is the quarterbacks coach

(01:10:17):
for Syracuseton. I told them they had on the wrong orange,
but it was all right. I understand. You got to
support them babies. I want to shout out to my
son Mike as he bought the grand babies over to
see me and Kwan yesterday over at the HIV and Georgetown.
What a great, great time. Agnes Dave Sono fel Catherine
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Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
I will be tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
I will be at the Moon Tower Saloon down off
of man Shack from seven to nine to watch the
Buffalo Bills as they take on the Miami Dolphins. We
might be watching the facts. They might be watching the
last time for for Mike McDaniel being on that sideline,

(01:11:03):
because if this team comes out and looks terrible, it
is over for him. Marcus believes it is over because
he took Buffalo minus twelve and a half. Mark believes
that it's over as well, But I wanted to talk
a little bit of baseball before we got out of here.
Tomorrow's a feel good football Friday, so we'll be talking
a lot of football. We'll talk all NFL and college

(01:11:27):
football games. We'll hear from coach. Coach Shark has his
media last media availability of the week.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
But I want to talk about the al MVP. Now.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
I know a lot of people are still fighting for
Aaron Judge, because what Aaron Judge has done this year
is pretty special.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
The NL we pretty much know what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Show Hail Tany became the first pitcher to hit fifty
home runs and strike out fifty in a season, and
he didn't even start the season on the mount. But
I want you to hear this sound on cal Riley
the other day he hit home runs fifty five and
number fifty six.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
Blasted center field day what it disappears he has homeward
on back to back. It just seemed tonight it may
never stop the year of cal Rilly.

Speaker 10 (01:12:25):
He has now tied ten Griffy Junior for the most
home runs by Amartor.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
In a season.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Unbelievable. Bro, He's a switch hitter, He's a switch hitter.
His numbers for average may not be that great, but
what he's able to do you're in, I mean game in,
game out squatting being the catcher. I want you to
hear from MLB network because I think a lot of
people are starting to understand how important he is to

(01:12:55):
the Seattle mayor and our team.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
All right, let's go back to the PitchCom device here.

Speaker 11 (01:12:59):
Second quest question, what aspects of cal Rowly's defense doesn't
get enough credit?

Speaker 12 (01:13:06):
So aspects about that voices, it's familiar. It is a
familiar voice, though, but his so like everyone always talks
about framing, they talk about, you know, blocking.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
Balls, throwing runners out.

Speaker 12 (01:13:18):
My thing is is his availability back there because a
lot of guys you see a lot of catchers, catchers
are platoon more more now than ever, rightfully, so it's
a very tough, demanding position. So I just wanted to
take a look because.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
He is, he's.

Speaker 12 (01:13:33):
A workhorse, and this is his third straight year of
catching over one thousand innings and usually basically it's been
jt He's been catching over one thousand innings every year.
It seems like, you know, for the past decade, Contraras
has been doing the same thing, and it's been cal
Rawley so my thing for and I just wanted to
throw this at his his F four, which you know,
you get, you get take it for what it is,

(01:13:55):
but it kind of counts for everything, a little bit
of offense, and it counts for all the catching metrics
as you know in there as well. And that's why
we're having this discussion about MVP, because he's right behind
Judge in that metric. But when it comes to your
availability as a catcher, being back there for that amount
of games, that amount of innings, the confidence that it
instills in your pitching staff is it's immeasurable. Like it's

(01:14:18):
not going to show up in those statistics, because the
feeling that your guys are gonna have knowing that you're
back there every day and your manager can can plug
you in there no problem and not have to worry
about it is It's huge for the team. And I
think that that adds to the consistency and one of
the reasons why we're always talking about their pitching staff

(01:14:38):
being one of the better ones in baseball.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
Right, that all makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Let's go think about that over a thousand innings, he's
caught so many pitches. He's in the lineup every single day.
He's done everything you can possibly do as a baseball player.
He was the Platinum Glove winner last year. Platinum that
means he was the top defensive player in baseball in

(01:15:04):
the American League. He is an outstanding performer. The big
Dumper is the MVP. Now, look, as I've said before,
I'm not taking anything away from what Aaron Judge has
been able to do.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
You just heard that he's.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Passing Ken Griffy Junior for the all time single season record.
He's a switch hitting catcher that plays every day and
his numbers are ridiculous. So I don't understand how he
is not looked at as the MVP of the American League.

(01:15:46):
Like I said, I get it, Shoreber, I've been on
that soapbox for him. But showhy is just show Hey.
He had another home run last night. He continues to
do amazing things, but he either striking out or he's
hitting the home run in The home runs seem to
come at the right time. But what I've seen from
the catcher from Seattle makes it impossible for me for

(01:16:08):
anybody to tell me that he is truly not the MVP.
His team is in a in a hunt for Al
West bandit Pinnan.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
You know I called for it when he had forty
nine and here he is now fifty six, passing.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
Ken Griffy Jr. He's he's the MVP. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Listen, big Dumper, give him crowning.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
I'm proud of this dude. It's an outstanding story. He
had his dad and his brother part of the home
run derby and he's got the most home runs in
baseball history for a switch hitter. Tomorrow, we're going to
be even better, folks. It will be a feel good
football Friday tomorrow. If you miss Kwan Cosmy, if you
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I think that's probably accurate because it's a Thursday night game,
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Primetime games count like five.

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X in the court of public opinion. You know, if
they get blown out, then.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
It's almost like they got a lot of time before
that next game.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
It's almost like a mini buy. You have the whole weekend.

Speaker 12 (01:22:33):
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on Thursday night, that they would move on from McDaniel.

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Ever, this is Dan Patrick Hour two on this Thursday
Football tonight. Patrick Mahomes turned thirty yesterday. Bill's Dolphins. They
got a lot of football to talk about. Washington Commanders,
They're going to get a super Bowl at some point.
You start to look at these teams that are building
new stadiums. The Bears are going to get a super

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on Peacock. All right, I'm looking at the Football Stadium
Digest with the NFL stadium's listed oldest to newest. The

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Bears nineteen twenty four Lambeau Lambeau Is nineteen fifty seven.
Then it goes to Arrowhead nineteen seventy two, the Bills
nineteen seventy three, the Super Dome with the Saints nineteen
seventy five. You got a lot of new stadiums now,
and it feels like if you build it, they will

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bring you a super Bowl. And looking at some of
these stadiums, you know, the Los Angeles SOFI is going
to get it second super Bowl coming up next year.
San Francisco with Levi Stadium getting its second Super Bowl. There,
the Lions with Ford Field, they got a super Bowl.
They've had a couple of super Bowls there. You have

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the Raiders with their stadium that was twenty twenty. Atlanta
got a super Bowl. They have their Mercedes Benz Stadium
twenty seventeen. Vikings they got a Super Bowl. US Bank
Stadium built in twenty sixteen. The Niners that was built
in twenty fourteen. Met Life with the Giants, Jets they
got a super Bowl that was built in twenty ten.

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Cowboys two thousand and nine at and T they got
a stadium super Bowl for their stadium. The Colts Lucas
Oil two thousand and eight they got one. Arizona Cardinals
two thousand and six they got a Super Bowl as well.
Everybody gets a Super Bowl.

Speaker 16 (01:25:16):
Yeah, pulling, and there's a bunch of new ones opening
bills in twenty twenty six, Titans twenty seven, Jaguars renovating
Cleveland Brown's supposedly.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
Twenty twenty nine, the Commander's no date on that yet.
But moving to DC.

Speaker 16 (01:25:30):
I was reading Sports Business Journal and they said the
move these days is not just a stadium the area
around it. It has to be mixed use of condos,
a betting, part of some type of casino if possible,
food and drink everything.

Speaker 18 (01:25:44):
Yeah, you wanted to be almost like its own community.
New England tried to do that up in Fox Spurro.
I don't know how much traffic they get on days
where there aren't games there, but you're trying to create,
you know, the Mavericks are trying to do this, you know,
create a community when you go. The Wrigley Field's been
doing this, bringing in a casino. They wanted to be

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one stop shop, but they also want you to go
there when your team isn't playing. Now with baseball, you
know you're getting eighty one home games there, you get
the postseason as well. With these football teams, you want
to have, you know, more games in there, more concerts
in there, and you want to create an environment. And
I get that, and that's why these stadiums they reward

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you with the Super Bowl. Has anybody built a stadium
where they didn't get a Super Bowl in the last
twenty years? I don't think so. All right, Pole, question
Seaton for hour two is going to be, what, by
the way, Mahomes turning thirty yesterday, what if we looked
at the most hall of famoush career before age thirty

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or run down that coming up? Kind of random? But
you know, with Mahomes turning thirty, okay, I think.

Speaker 19 (01:26:51):
There's probably been some pretty good careers before thirty. Yeah,
certainly Patrick is the most recent. Steph Curry Lebron even
if you just keep it in the NFL. Michael Jordan,
perhaps you've heard it, maybe you've held of him. Where
is that billionaire? Where where is that? Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:27:07):
What broker off? Where did he go?

Speaker 19 (01:27:17):
I'm still a billionaire, That's all I got so far.
Good that didn't work out the way it didn't hoped
it was going on? Now he thought he thought he
had out smartered everybody. I'm going to bring in all
of these guys over the hill guys, and we're going
to win. And then you didn't win, and then all
of a sudden things went south from there.

Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
Perhaps you've heard of you've heard of Michael Children. Perhaps
you have heard of you man Mahomes. He's got Oh sorry,
you're going to do that later. Yeah, your pole question,
the question.

Speaker 19 (01:27:48):
The worse for a team players only meeting or a
coach calling out the team's effort right now? Fifty eight
percent of a player's only meeting. That's sort of balancing
out a little bit. I'm surprised people aren't. More like,
don't think it's worse for a coach to call out
the team's effort publicly.

Speaker 18 (01:28:06):
If he's called them out privately, then I'm okay with that, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
You've said that to them. I don't like when.

Speaker 18 (01:28:13):
You call out your team publicly unless you're doing it
to grandstand or hey, I'm doing everything I can do here.

Speaker 3 (01:28:19):
You know this falls on them as well.

Speaker 19 (01:28:21):
Yes, yeah, Like if it was like Pete Carroll, I
would be like, oh dang, these dudes must be messing
up for if it was you don Shula said it,
I would be like, oh, these guys must be whatever.
A guy who's been there two weeks. I don't know
if that's the move right away. I have a big
problem with that. You just got there. It feels like
he's saying it to the fan base. Nobody even knows

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if you could be a head coach yet, and you're
already publicly calling out your whole team.

Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
I have a huge problem with that.

Speaker 18 (01:28:47):
But I also have to hold him accountable of your
team's effort. It's got to start with you and the
captains here. So what I mean that would be my
question to Ben is what role do you play in
this coach?

Speaker 16 (01:28:59):
Yeah, but do you think Ben Johnson was trying to
pacify the angry fans and the angry media in Chicago?
And like you said, it is probably too soon to
make that blanket statement that we're not trying hard. But
I also wonder if he's saying to himself, if I
go the other way and say everything's fine, We're gonna
be fine.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
You don't even have to say that.

Speaker 16 (01:29:18):
But it seems like a lot of coaches. Dude, let's
put his way. The previous regime said everything was fine every.

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
Week, but that's why they're fired.

Speaker 18 (01:29:24):
Yes, but I don't want you to lie to me
and say, hey, we're fine. I want you to say, hey,
attention to detail. There's all these things that we need
to be better, we need to be better at and
we will be better at that, but not hey, we're good.
Don't nothing to worry about. Wait a minute, you just
got blown out by Detroit. People are questioning if Caleb

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Williams has gotten any bet, like, you know, there's some
things happening here, but I don't think you can go nope.
You know, it's like the captain of the Titanic, I
don't know, took on a little water.

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
Yeah, seen you.

Speaker 19 (01:29:57):
What a piece of video and audioile always think of
is at last year post game that on field handshake
between Caleb Williams and c J. Stroud where c J
Stroud is like, hey man, come here, come here, and
they're looking at each other up and c J. Stroud
is like, hey man, listen, don't let the media gets
you or whatever, and Caleb Williams is trying to get away.

Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
He's like, no, man, come here, I want to talk
to you.

Speaker 19 (01:30:17):
Hey man, don't let the media you just keep you
in you, you just do whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
C J.

Speaker 19 (01:30:21):
Stroud is just trying to be nice to him, you know,
and Caleb Williams looked at him and was like okay,
like whatever, and just sort of walked off. Dang, dude,
what's your problem? Yeah, that video sticks in my head
all the time, his reaction to someone being nice to him.
Do you have that, Marmon?

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
Yeah, hey go on, I'm taking those thos. Yeah yeah, Marv,
look marfor those mistakes and everything that you've got. Bro,
is there you already? Bro, You're gonna be able to
player in this league.

Speaker 19 (01:30:49):
Yd He just kind of looks at him, like to
the side, like okay, I guess I agree with that,
but not really but whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:31:02):
Cameras are on it, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, when
you're trying to get away from somebody and they're like no.

Speaker 3 (01:31:07):
No, no, no, come here, right all right?

Speaker 18 (01:31:11):
Okay, the Dolphins getting twelve and a half over under
forty nine and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
Let's see, let's look at.

Speaker 18 (01:31:20):
Any time touchdown Josh Allen would be uh would be
your pick, and they're expecting toa to throw for a
few more yards than Josh Allen time. Feels like the
Miami Dolphins will have to be throwing depends on how
much they're down. And Josh Allen, you know, expect him
in a home game. Maybe he doesn't have to throw

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that much that they'll run the football all right. Now,
Patrick Mahomes turned thirty yesterday. The most Hall of famoush career. Now,
we're doing this on the fly, so there's no research here. Well,
we kind of do that most days. But most Hall
of Famish career before the age of thirty, Paul.

Speaker 16 (01:32:02):
So, our rationale was, or is if you stopped playing
at thirty your first ballot. Lebron James before thirty had
four MVPs and two rings, that's no doubt.

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
Yeah, got anybody else that maybe not as obvious as
Lebron Joys?

Speaker 16 (01:32:19):
Well, we got to go with the obvious to start,
I would say, but Steph Curry had a little bit
of a slow start. He really didn't make a All
Star team until twenty five years old.

Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
All right, any other suggestions here?

Speaker 16 (01:32:31):
Ken Griffy Junior would be good too, He had nine
All Star appearances before the age of thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:32:37):
Albert Poohols seemed to be a little bit older with
the Cardinals, I think when he got started. But still
he probably put together.

Speaker 18 (01:32:47):
Mike Trout Hall of Famish before he was thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:32:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:32:53):
I would almost wonder if most people had already made
the Hall of Fame by age thirty. Yeah, like between
twenty two and you're probably doing your best work career wise,
right like Jerry Rice definitely did, Emmett did, Dan Marino
probably did, Barry Sanders. Everybody probably had their best years
before they were thirty. Wouldn't that be where most Hall

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of Fame careers are made?

Speaker 18 (01:33:15):
Yeah, except for baseball, where you know you got guys
who play a little bit longer.

Speaker 3 (01:33:19):
Now you have quarterbacks. Brady gave you two different Hall
of Fame careers, but one of them was before he
was thirty. Yep.

Speaker 16 (01:33:26):
Yeah, Pauline Brady not did not win an MVP in
his twenties. He won four in his thirties. He still
had three Super Bowls. Yeah, three super Bowls getting you in? Yeah,
he would have been. He had three Super Bowls before
age of twenty eight. Breed Lamar Jackson's all Hall of
Famer now?

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
Correct? Is Josh Allen a Hall of Famer right now?
For sure?

Speaker 18 (01:33:47):
Okay, don't you think it feels that way? But he
hasn't done anything in the postseason. Lamar Jackson hasn't done
anything in the postseason. Now they he won two MVPs,
and you know Josh Allen won last year.

Speaker 20 (01:34:01):
Yes, I think the one seed for Hall of Fame
was before thirty is probably Jim Brown. He didn't he
retired at twenty nine. Yeah, yeah, Barry Sanders, same thing.
Jim Brown was more decorated than Barry. Lawrence Taylor for sure, Okay,
Reggie White.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
Yeah, I'm sure there's a whole list of guys who well.

Speaker 19 (01:34:25):
JJ Watt had three defensive players a year before thirty. Yeah,
I might as well do it so Paul doesn't have to.

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
Walter Payton certainly before twenty five.

Speaker 16 (01:34:38):
Lawrence Taylor, before the age of thirty was a nine
time First team All Pro.

Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
Yikes.

Speaker 18 (01:34:44):
Yeah, what about the guy who was a Hall of
on the Hall of Fame trajectory and then didn't make
the Hall of Fame had had a great start before
he was thirty and then and I'm not talking about
Russell Wilson, but but he comes to mind. We all thought,

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we all thought he does come to mind that he
was on the Hall of Fame trajectory, and then all
of a sudden once he wanted out of Seattle, and
then we've had a couple of stops since then.

Speaker 16 (01:35:14):
Yeah, Paul Odell Beckham after year five, I thought he
was going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer.

Speaker 18 (01:35:20):
Okay, yes to Antonio Brown. Yeah, hall of Fame trajectory.
Ob J is still not talking to me, is he?
I think he still an outsider? Did Yeah he called
me an outsider.

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
I was correct in what I said about about him
and playing, but yeah, he called me an out outsider. Okay,
I love so much.

Speaker 19 (01:35:46):
One night dude like get all pissy on social media
about something and then