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September 23, 2025 79 mins
It’s “Turn the Page Tuesday,” the guys talk about Texas Longhorn’s Head Coach Steve Sarkisian speaking to the media about what’s essential for the team right now and explain the type of team he has. The Detroit Lions defeated the Baltimore Ravens 38-30 last night in a thrilling game that came down to the last minute. The SEC has announced the permanent opponents in its new scheduling format, which will feature three teams; each team will play every year, while the other six games will rotate yearly. The Dallas Cowboys are dealing with injury woes, and the Houston Texans are experiencing consistency issues offensively. Stephen A Smith is causing controversy once again. The Houston Rockets lost a key component for the season. The Ryder Cup is coming up this weekend. “The World’s Strongest Take!” We have conversations with Joe Cook of “Inside Texas” and Marc Vandermeer, the Voice of the Houston Texans. You can hear it all here on “The Morning Kickoff Show!”
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(02:07):
Let's get right into it. Coach Star came out yesterday
and met with the media and talked a little bit
about this football game and his football team, and let's
just say he was pleased with a lot of the
things that were happening on the football field. He was
happy with the performance of his offense. As we've talked about,

(02:30):
they racked up six hundred and seven yards of total offense,
and you start to think, Okay, yes, I know, folks,
it was Sam Houston State. But like I said before
the game, it was a subpar performance a couple of
weeks ago, and everybody thought something was wrong with the team.

(02:50):
And then they go out and execute what we've been
waiting for. What the result was, what we've been looking
for the entire time. It finally happened, and people still
are questioning the football team. And it's just like, you
can't win with them, you can win without them. It's
just an annoying situation that I continue to look at

(03:13):
and say, why, why, why?

Speaker 3 (03:15):
It was a.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
College football game. Regardless of the level of college football.
These people go out every day and practice. Yep, they
work hard, they recruit, they pay a lot of money
to make sure that these programs are out there to
entertain their own fan bases. And if you think for
one second that Sam Houston went into this game going, well,

(03:40):
we're playing Texas they're gonna kill us.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
But let's just go out here and play. You're wrong.
You are absolutely positively wrong.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Every team straps up their shoelaces and put their helmets
on the same way, and they go out there, and
the coaches train them with the intensity that they would
train the opposite team.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
So come on, guys, relax. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
And one of the things that started talked about was
the importance of having confidence from last week.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Well, I think it's important. You know, there's nothing like confidence.
You know that confidence is is. I think makes us
all better players, makes us all better coaches. You know,
the belief in what you do and why you do
what we do, so on and so forth. I think
it lends itself to having three quality practices this week

(04:33):
that were not so much dialed into fixing things, and
guys feel like they're getting fixed as opposed to building
on things that they do well. I think that that
shifts the narrative of where their mindset is at.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Man, I'm doing really good at this.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
I'm gonna I want to get better at that as
well as get better at these other things. And sometimes
you go into a buy and you feel like you're broken,
and that you're getting fixed all the time. Your mindset
is different, and maybe you're not as willing, maybe you
fight it a little bit more. But when you when
you're playing with confidence, you want more of that right
and you want to work towards that. And so I
think having the confidence in this week as well as

(05:09):
heading into SEC play, I think UH is about as
good as a spot you can be in. And there's
a lot of things to be confident about of our team. UH,
there's a couple other areas that we know we're gonna
have to get right. And I think that the players
understand that as well.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
And I think one of the player one of the
places and one of the things that they're gonna have
to get right is this penalty situation. They're they're just
continuing to get certain penalties at a certain time that
you just like, why why you got nine penalties in
the last ball game?

Speaker 2 (05:41):
How do you get a penalty on first down? I
don't understand that. I mean, you come out of the huddle,
everybody collaps, goes to the line, and you notice snapcam
after I say blue, the first sound I make we
going yep blue. He gone already. He even made a

(06:02):
sound like, what are you doing? Yeah, that's a that's
a discipline, man. You got to figure out a way
to get it done. And Coach Sart knows that this
is about to get real important for them. I mean,
all of it has been important, but it's really about
to be important as you go into sec play. I
know that there's a lot that they're still trying to

(06:24):
break down on the film, but they have their confidence
and that's the swagger that you want to see from
a team that came into the season with high expectations.
I know it kind of stumbled out of the gate,
but what we saw is something that we continue to
want to see keep.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Going up in the right direction. Those are the things
that you want to look at. And one thing that
coach start has been talking about, Hey, what's your identity?
What type of team do you have? Now that you
start to look at it, and we're through the first
quarter of the season.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
You know, I don't know if it's ciarly deja vu,
but I do think to your point, like, at some
point your personality starts to starts to to bubble to
the top, and and you know, as a coach, you
want to make sure that what you think the personality
of one side of the ball or the other resembles

(07:21):
what you want your team to look like. And and
so if if early on, and whether it's in the
summer and training camp, you're like, uh, we could have
a tendency to go one direction or another, you try
to you try to re emphasize and reinforce what we
want to become, and celebrate when that does show itself
and maybe minimize maybe what we don't want. And then

(07:42):
you try to get people that that are going to
be part of that personality to play to that personality.
And and so, like last week, I touched on the
importance of DeAndre Moore being back because he's part of
our personality. What he brings every day in practice the
car often it's the energy, his willingness to hold people accountable,

(08:05):
his willingness to do the dirty work.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
You know.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
One of his best plays, one of Ryan's best plays
I celebrated with the team today was them both blocking
on a bubble screen for Dayla McCutcheon. That's part of
our personality. That's the way we play. There's a level
of physicality we want to play. And I think a
lot of times people hear me say that, I'm talking
about the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
It's all eleven.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
It's how we play on the perimeter, and so I
need to celebrate those things. I need to celebrate those
two guys running clear out post routes for Jordan Washington
to catch a touchdown out.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
The back door.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
You know, it's two high level players that are playing
selfless football for other guys to make their plays. And
so those that's part of the personality as much as
it is the excitement and energy that maybe Arch provided too.
But it's everybody playing for the next guy. That's part
of our personality. And so I have to celebrate those

(08:58):
things to reinforce it so that maybe those other guys
when they get in they understand why it's so important
to play that way.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Hards.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
What what is what is Texas personality? Well, I think
it's what we just heard from coach Sarka. I think
it's those guys doing the dirty work, the grunt work.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
The not about me. It's about the stuff you.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Don't get accolade for a statistic right that that gives
you a reward if you will. Yeah, And and what
he's been able to do in that particular moment was
make these guys feel like they're a huge part of
the success. As he said, I celebrated the blocking of
DeAndre Moore. Having him back was very important to to

(09:44):
the energy in which this football team was going to
play with and we got a chance to see it,
so it was really good.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
But that was the personality.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
This is where my question was about the what type
of team do you have? On the intensity and this
actually asked by Corey Moves.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
I think one thing about this team, they want to
be really good, and they they practice so hard and
they they're very intentional with what they try to do.
But what I've learned is they're better when they're loose.
They're better when they have a little bit more fun.
They're better when they can have a level of intensity

(10:24):
but yet still have fun doing it. Sometimes this group
can go a little too far because they want to
do it right so well, but then they don't perform
at their best. And like Anthony Hill is a great
example of that. I don't know if we've seen him
play now for three years or two and a half years,
and the level of physical intensity he plays with, but

(10:45):
the looseness that he actually plays with too and you
guys have been around him enough doing interviews. He's a
he's one of the jokesters, you know, But yet you
wouldn't think that that's who your middle linebacker is and
the way that he plays. But that's part of the
personality of this team. And so I've got to try
to get them in the right space so that I
can get the best out of them. And I think

(11:06):
part of that is them loosening up, having a little
bit more fun with one another, having a little bit
more fun on the field. They're still going to have
the right mental intensity because they're a very intense group.
It's just getting them into the right sweet spot to
be at their best. And I think that's what this
group is. They're a little bit more loose. They're a
little bit more fun loving group, and there's nothing wrong

(11:27):
with that as long as we play to the standard
of which we want to play the game.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Wow, he knows his team.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, And everybody's different, you know, like you and I
we have very similar personalities, but you're a bit of the.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Uncle.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
I'm more of the cousin that like to have fun.
But we know each other so we can bounce off
each other. I think that's what this team is about.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
They got different levels of their leadership, and he knows
exactly who they are. This is going to be an
interesting week because there's no Texas football, but the Texas
football game again Florida was announced. I'll tell you about that,
and coming up next we will have the conversation about
what we saw last night in the NFL some good

(12:15):
football being played and Baltimore, well they've.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Done it again.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Right here on the Morning Kickoff on sports Radio AM
thirteen hundred The Zone. Welcome back to the Morning Kickoff
right here on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred The Zone.
In the next segment, we'll have Joe Cook of Inside
Texas joining us to get his thoughts and what his
takeaway was of the press conference yesterday as he was
in attendance.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
On the front row Front Road.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Joe, well, right now, I want to go to the
NFL because last night's NFL.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Football game was something special.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
There was a lot of scoring, a lot of defense,
and yeah, they did the same thing to end the
ball game.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
Since last year. Just well, I'm under one on average
throwaway a game number two in the league the Baker
Mayfield and now I'm third down and Rose Davan catch touchdown.
Raven zat Brown in motion golf for Saint Brown. He

(13:18):
is there and he's got it more than one. They
pitched the Gibbs touchdown.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
This drive starts with.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
The twenty one down by four hand off to Henry
and he gets it punched out. It's recovered by DJ Reid,
knocked out on the play by Aiden Hutchinson, and it's
yet another fumble for Derrick Henry.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
That's what they're used to the way they're built.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
Now, Montgomery, he's gonna break David Montgomery is for the touchdown,
second down and seven. Jackson backpedaling, Andrews White opened one
on one and he'll take it in his second of

(14:13):
the night, both with under two minutes to play yesterday
back pedaling and incomplete for.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Ze Flowers.

Speaker 6 (14:23):
Loop.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
The rookie will try.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
And come up with a perfect kick up that goes Laporta,
who's had a nice night. And this is an eight
point win for the Lions to get to two and one.
And this was an impressive night all the way around
for Detroit.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
You know, the funny thing about that game is when
you look at it on paper, you start to think
is Detroit going to be a real team after they
lost both of their coordinators. They came out at the
beginning of the season, didn't look very solid. Then they
back and they win their next couple of games, and
they do it in impressive fashion. And the thing that

(15:05):
stands out the most to me is the way that
Jared Goff has just created this.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
New persona about himself.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
When he first came to Detroit, people thought that Detroit
lost in that trade by losing Matthew Stafford, because Matthew
Stafford went on to win a Super Bowl and you know,
golf took them to the Super Bowl. He just didn't
finish it and he was with La and then they
get to win. But I continue to look at him

(15:36):
and he is one of the most composed quarterbacks that
I've seen in a long time. And nothing seems to
phase him anymore. It used to be he looked nervous.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
All the time. He's no longer nervous.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
He's probably one of the most confident quarterbacks in the
NFL that we don't talk enough about.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, he's definitely one of the elite of the elite
quarterbacks in the NFL. The only knock on him is
that he's not the most physical quarterback, and uh.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
I really feel like if if.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
He wanted to do the most physical he won't run it.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
I mean, he'll scramble a little bit.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
But like, there's there's been many times I've seen him
have green grass in front of him and he's gonna
stop his feet and he's gonna set and throw like
and that's a good thing if you and I feel
like that's one of the things in that offense that
they have that if they did have it.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
It would be a big plus for that offense. He's
not a knock.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
I'm saying he's great, but I think that offense would
be more tailor made for somebody that can move a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, this is a team that every time I watched
them play, you you can't help but be impressed with them. Yeah,
Dan Campbell's not afraid to go forward on fourth down.
He will continue to know he's not he will, he will.
He will put the pressure on you to stop them
because he just has that much confidence in his team.
You start to look at how this team goes about

(17:12):
its business and then you can't say enough about Amara
Saint Brown. He just continues to make plays he's a
football player, I said all day every day. I mean,
he's one of those guys that you just say, Wow,
did you expect him to be good? Yeah, but did
you expect him to be this good?

Speaker 3 (17:32):
No? And he's their goal to number one wide receiver.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
He just he is tasked with the best guy in
the secondary. Yes, the best guy has following him around,
and he's still torching him for ten catches in one
hundred yards in a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Almost every game.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
They were ten of seventeen on third and fourth down,
seven or fourteen on third down, and three of three
on fourth down, not afraid to go for it, continues
to handle their business. They have four hundred and twenty
six yards of total offense. It's just impressive. Two running
backs that had two touchdowns. Yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Like it's just, you know, it's a very versatile and
effective offense. And you can call them thunder and Lightning,
whatever you want to call them is a nickname. They're
both really good. They're both really really good. And if
they were, if they didn't have to split reps, how
much could one of them be doing on their own?

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, yep, but it works for them and how they
go about it. But on the other side of the ball,
the Baltimore Ravens are the first team in NFL history
to score over one hundred and eleven points in their
first three games and have a losing record. They scored

(18:58):
over one hundred and eleven points, it'll have a losing record.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
They've also lost three fumbles that led the points in
three consecutive games.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
And two of them by Derrick Henry.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
And Derrick Henry, who is by far one of the
best backs in the NFL is He's definitely top three
in the NFL right now. But you look at him
and lately he has had an issue with fumbles costly
and he was on the struggle, but so bad that
he almost failed while he was trying to put his

(19:33):
helmet on the bench because he was so mad at himself,
and he stumbled as he was coming out of the gate.
But I will say this, all the haters of Mark Andrews,
bite your tongue because he's back and he looks more efficient.
He continues to move. He got two touchdowns yesterday. He's
a different player than what he.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Was last year. What was going on with him?

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Do not know what was going on, but he's playing
a lot different than what he did last year.

Speaker 7 (20:04):
Sometimes guys just have bad seasons. Sometimes guys just have
bad games. Yeah, and uh, he just had both last year.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
But I got a serious question that we need to
come to the grips of Samuel L. Jackson and Lamar
Jackson looked like each other. Do we need to do
a paternity test on this man? I mean, go back
and look at Samuel L. As a young man and
look at Lamar as a young man as well.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
You got some splaining to do. Wow, sam was in
the streets. Get trouble with that one.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
I know you're gonna callow you better. You know how
he gets down, But yeah, go back and look at him.
Gonna pull up some pictures here in a minute. I'm
a post do the side by side. That's what's out there.
That's why, that's what brought it to my attention. Again,
you can't tell me no different. Okay, you got to
show me that. Yeah, I'm gonna put it on there.
I'm I'm gonna post it here in just a second.

(21:04):
Because there's just some things that you don't even need
to talk about. They just speak for themselves. They just
speak for themselves.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
You're gonna break up and have me home. Man, Look,
be careful.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
I think they know who is who's who, and I'm
sure they've already had a conversation about it.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Samuel, l are you late on child support? We need
to figure out what's going on because.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
They Man, that's one to claim though, because you get
the super Bowl ticket, go to the Pro.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Bowl with your son.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
I just put it on, just tagged it to AM
thirteen hundred zone and to you Mark Henry. And when
we come back, Before we get to Joe Cook, I
want to know is there some truth in what I'm
saying and what's been posted? Because DNA tests will let
you know everything you need to know about.

Speaker 8 (21:55):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, I can't unsee this.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Hello, look at them side burns. I mean the same.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
The headline is they say everybody got a twin that's
a doppelganger. There he is right there, Wow, there he is.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
I see.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
I ain't causing no problems. I ain't trying to break
up the home, but it looked like hard.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
You might be right. I might be on the song.
Might be on the song.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
When we come back, we'll talk to Joe Cook of
Inside Texas and catch up with him and the great
folks over there right here on the morning kickoff on
sports Radio AM thirteen hundred the Zone. You know, it's Tuesday,
so that can only mean one thing. We get a
chance to talk to our guy of Inside Texas, Joe Cook.

(22:41):
You can follow him at Joseph Cook eighty nine on
social media and Joe, you were at the presser yesterday
and Coach Sark seemed like he was really fourth right
when he was talking about his team, where they are
and the expectations moving forward. What was your take away
from the media availability yesterday.

Speaker 9 (23:04):
Yeah, I mean, obviously he didn't talk much about the
previous game because it was what it was at Sam
Houston State. Uh, you know, probably a team maybe the
weekest on Texas schedule. So he was he was a
lot of looking forward, looking forward to SEC play and
going over you know, what he thinks the team is
good at and areas where he thinks the team's still deficient.

(23:24):
It was pretty honest about it, I thought. But my
biggest takeaway was, you know, just talking about a lot
of the places where he thinks that there's some strengths
and you know, you look at the secondary they got
to play a lot of players, and uh, some of
the guys that didn't play will be contributors. But they
felt like the guys that did show up on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Did really well. That the defense in front, I think
what we know is pretty special.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (23:48):
And then even with the receivers, you know, DeAndre Moore
co went back. I think I think we all kind
of realized how important he was, but I think on
Saturday Deep showed exactly how important he was. So it
seems like, you know, this is this The Face team
has a little bit of momentum.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
I mean, a fifty five of a win will do that.

Speaker 9 (24:04):
But they feel a lot better now than you know,
if you had maybe put fifty five oh two days
ago and then you tep last week, you can see
that they've gotten a little bit better.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Maybe not as when you.

Speaker 9 (24:15):
Start with like, but a little bit better as does
since they got back from Columbus.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Joe, was there any conversation at the presser about, uh,
Emmitt Moseley and Trey Wisner in their rehab and what
they would be doing this week if not anything, Yeah.

Speaker 9 (24:34):
So the Start talked pretty extensively about Wisner.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
It sounds like they have him on track.

Speaker 9 (24:39):
For coming back for glee conference play. All he said
his leg and so you know what come of that
is doesn't seem to be worrying him too much as
far as our rosally goes. I think probably in a
similar category Start said, I think last week when we
asked him about it, like he's close.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
He's a pleasure who's.

Speaker 9 (25:01):
Probably getting closer and closer to being able to go.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
And it was a surprise he heard good things about
him in the spring.

Speaker 9 (25:08):
But it sounds like he may have tweaked something over
the course of the slammer, uh and then in doing
so just kind of set back his timeline. But I
don't think they feel good about him being ready for
conference play. And they'll know that win by before the
Florida game, because it's a conference game. We're gonna start
getting the availability reports, so they.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Will see, you know, maybe some names on.

Speaker 9 (25:29):
There, you know, just you know, the probable tag or uh,
stuff like that. But you know, we'll get a little
bit more clarity in the league office before too long, no.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Doubt, Joe, we're gonna call you back.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
There's a little clicking in your phone real quick, so
we'll call you right back and get you back off.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
All right, yep, that works.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
So as we continue these conversations with Joe when he
gets back. One of the things you mentioned was about
Emmitt Moseley and Trey Wisner.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
He also mentioned CJ. Baxter.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
He even called them C four as he was getting
ready to talk about some of those people that were involved.
And it looks like he's going to be just fine.
So hopefully we'll get both running backs back and be
able to go from there. But when Joe Cook is
back with us, you can follow him at Joseph Cook
eighty nine. He does great work over at Inside Texas

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and Joe. One of the things that was also talked
about during the pressor was it seems like he really
understands that is, as his defense goes, that is going to.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Be the leader as of right now.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Did you feel that at any point that this is
going to be the calling card of this team right now?

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (26:42):
I think the way he talks about just the mentality
of that defense is kind of kind of telling. You know,
he has said that people believes that the defense is
having more fun than the offense, and you know, I mean,
I think anybody with eyes can see that. But the
fact that he's even kind of admitting that I think
is a little bit of the admission of that. And

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you know, I'm not sure if there's a little strom
to the ego as the offensive play calling head coach
that your defense is having more fun like the offense,
but it does speak to the quality of the defense,
and I think Starks has been pretty forthright about saying, Okay,
it's my job to start getting the offense to have
as much fun as the defense did, and it kind
of looked like that was what happened on you know,

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we've seen that with San Jose's hey, with that little
complimentary football burst. We saw it last week against Sam Houston.
So it looks like they've made progress towards that. But
the facts he even is openly omitting, like, yeah, my
defense is having more fun than my offense, I think
speaks to just the impact that that.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Side of the ball is going to have for this
Texas team.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Well, you know, they talk about competition all the time
and the competitive fire and nature. I'm sure that coach Sark,
being an offensive guy that is not at the top
of his right now, he wants that offense to have
the same love that that offense that defense is getting.

Speaker 9 (28:05):
Yeah, absolutely, and you're not doing the you know, go
against the you're not putting two teams on one team
like you in football can up like everybody's trying to
throw the same direction now. But yeah, I'm sure there's
a little bit of him that's like a man like
I just need to get this going and it's my
area to go and then we could be, you know,
really looking like the team I thought would be earlier

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this year.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
We're talking to Joe Cook of Inside Texas. You can
follow them at Joseph Cook eighty nine and you can
also check out his work over at Inside Texas and Joe.
Now that you know we're getting to that point of
SEC play, there's a bunch of games this weekend that
will tell a little bit about who Texas is going

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to be facing. You get a chance to fill out
some scouting reports and as you've watched some of these
games so far, who would you say would be the
strongest team in the SEC if you had to pick
one right now?

Speaker 3 (29:01):
I mean, it's it's hard not to still say Georgia.

Speaker 9 (29:03):
Uh, you know, they can have whoever at quarterback and
it looks like, you know what they get going around
that player basically at every position on offense and defense
is going to great things going really well, you know, but.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
I don't think they're they're perfect.

Speaker 9 (29:19):
I think you know that one of these Georgia teams
or would lose to Georgia teams of years.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Path, And that doesn't mean that this one's bad. It
just means those are the ones were better.

Speaker 9 (29:28):
We'll learn a lot about them this weekend hosting Alabama.
I think even though that lost to Florida State halfien,
Alabama is still a quality team. We'll see what happens
when Tyson Simpson has to go against another Ever, well, I'm.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Opposing, so I'm gonna posed a different question to you.
Who do you think is the biggest threat A and M,
Vanderbilt or Oklahoma?

Speaker 9 (29:51):
I mean, I think it has to be Oklahoma at
this point, just the way that they've taken care of
things on defense and done enough on offense that off
that's by no means perfect. The balls and John the
piers hands a lot, and it's not really in the
running backs hands a lot, and the offensive line is
getting banged up.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
But that defense, it can.

Speaker 9 (30:11):
Give Texas offense a lot of problems I'm feeling like,
so I'm gonna say to Oklahoma and then probably ain'
and m but that I don't think that means Vanderbilts
any have to gloss over. They've proven that they're a
good team this year. Not just a good Vanderbilt team,
but a good football team.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
No doubt about it. There is Joe Cook of Inside Texas.
You can follow them at Joseph Cook eighty nine and
Joe enjoyed the bye week and we'll talk to you next.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Week, buddy, absolutely, Thank you guys. There is Joe Cook.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
That's interesting when you start to look at how this
team is starting to shape up and we get ready
for SEC play, which a lot of these teams already
played a bunch of SEC games, and now it's Texas
has turned after the bye to be able to get after.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
It when we come back.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
We've got some apt it's for of the Texas long Horns.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
That's right, folks.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
There's some permanent opponents that will be giving out and
we've got the game time for Texas and you f
right here on the morning kickoff on Sports Radio and
thirteen hundred the Zone. I want to thank Joe Cook
of Inside Texas. For joining us as he always does
on Tuesday. But as we're headed into the bye week,

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everybody gets a chance to just relax and hang out
and chill out.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
So get to relax a little bit.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
But I want to share with them, man, Yeah, to
share with all the pears out there that's driving with
their kids for the first time. Are just trying to
help the kids get a license, Like my prayers go
after y'all. I'm going through it hard, and I know
that you've you've expressed your disinterest.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah, I'm not forcing it, so there's no dire to
do it. I'm not fixing it to be one of
those that was like, no, you have to do it.
I'm like, okay, right with somebody else. Oh no, ride
with your friends. I mean till you're ready. I'm not
fixing the foreshoes like anything else. It's like, I'm not

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I ain't got the kind of time or patience.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
You're making my eyes wet. So yeah, it's a.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Little bit different phase. And the kids are a little
bit different these days because when we were younger, we
wanted to get it as soon as we could.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Now they're like, nah, I got an uber driver. So
it's all good.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
So y'all go ahead and keep taking me where I
need to be so big and we're like, okay, let's
do it. But yeah, I wanted to get into this
because the game time was announced yesterday while we were
at the presser. Texas and Florida will kick off at
two thirty on October the fourth, after the bye week.

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That'll be Texas's first SEC matchup. It will be either
on ABC or ESPN. Then when we get closer to
that date in time, they will let us know where
they're going to put it. But that weekend is Kentucky
at Georgia they will kick off at eleven, Vanderbilt at
Alabama they will kick off at two thirty. Texas Florida

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two thirty, Kentucky or excuse me, kent State taking on Oklahoma.
That game will be at three pm. And then the
nightcap will be Texas A and M hosting Mississippi State
and that will be at six thirty ABC and the
SEC network where you can find all of these ballgames.

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So and actually it was looking at it. Yeah just
still says or on those on those dates. But also
yesterday the news will came out that the SEC opponents
permanent opponents. Now, when we say permanent, we don't know
if it's going to be permanent permanent.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
But they said that the SEC.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Opponents for the Texas Longhorns moving forward, they will have
three permanent opponents and those are Oklahoma, Texas A and M,
and Arkansas. Taking you back to the old Southwest Conference
days when things were really really exciting and old school

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people tortally understand that Texas A and M's permanent game
obviously will be ut. They now have LSU and Missouri
on their schedule moving forward. I thought it was interesting
that either the LSU or Missouri team wasn't filled in
by Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
I was hoping that LSU would be on that list
because of the old Southwest Conference. I mean, you throw
Baylor and LSU and then and there you go LSU.
LSU was in the Southwest Conference when back in the day,
like in the eighties, right, No.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
LSU has always been in the SEC.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
I don't ever remember A and LSU all the time
when my brother played. Yeah, but at that time, you
start to look at all these teams and you're like, Okay,
this is how this is going to be broken down.
Which is interesting when you start to look at the
permanent opponents. There's a lot of them that you look

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at and you're like, Oh, is this going to be
the way that this is going to play out? You
start looking at rivals. That's the thing that always stands
out to me, Like South Carolina or Tennessee. For example,
Tennessee's rivals now will be Alabama, Vanderbilt, in Kentucky. South
Carolina will be Georgia, Kentucky and Florida, Oh, miss Mississippi

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State obviously LSU, and now Oklahoma is their rival Missouri Arkansas,
and I say rival, I use that term loosely. Arkansas, Texas,
A and M in Oklahoma.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
That's who.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Missouri will have, Mississippi State, Ole, Miss Alabama, Vanderbilt, LSU, Arkansas, Ole,
miss In, Texas, A and M, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee
and Florida. Georgia has Auburn, Florida and South Carolina. Florida
has Georgia, South Carolina and Kentucky, Auburn, Georgia, Alabama and Vanderbilt, Arkansas, Missouri,

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Texas and LSU. That one, I like, Alabama has Auburn,
Tennessee and Mississippi. So these are the teams that will
be playing each other home and away. In the new
nine league schedule. Each school will have three annual opponents
I just went through them, but then they will be
reevaluated every four years and six rotational opponents, meaning each

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school will play every other SEC school at least once
every two years and every opponent at home in a
way in a four year span.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Wow, I think that Vanderbilt got a raw deal, man.
They got they got Georgia and Texas.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
No, Vanderbilt has Tennessee, Mississippi State and Auburn.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
OK.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, I mean they will play them, but they're not
the rivals.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
So those are the ways that they have.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Decided that they were going to do that and that
will start next season. Next season is the way that
they're going to balance out the nine team schedule, nine
game schedule within the SEC.

Speaker 8 (37:40):
Man.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
I tell you, like, that's a lot of thought that
has to go into that. They have to do that.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
They put it in a computer and nothing spit it
out the computer.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Just yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
I mean think about it though, Texas and Texas and
m in Arkansas and Oklahoma, that was a layup for them.
That's a perfect scenario for Texas to keep that rivalry
which was now renewed between Texas A and m Oklahoma.
That's always gonna be the game, and it's always gonna
be in Dallas and then the Arkansas that's only right.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Much like I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, that's that's that's TV right there, And that's the
other part of the evaluation for them too. You start looking, Okay,
which ones really are must see TV, which ones are
really dialed in to these matchups, not only just nationally,
but of course in your region, And then they'll reevaluate
it to see where everybody is.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Every Cotton Bowl we always come up with who were who,
what teams had the best rivalries? Yeah, and Pixas and
OU is always at the top of.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
The mom gotta be gotta be.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Our number one is in the books. Our number two
is just around the corner. The Dallas Cowboys got bigger
issues and it.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Does not seem to get any better. The right, folks,
the season is over. Well, some people already thought it was.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Right here on the morning kickoff on sports Radio AM
thirteen hundred The Zone. Welcome back to our number two
of the morning kickoff right here on sports Radio AM
thirteen hundred The Zone and nour number one. We heard
from coach Sark on his team and where they are
headed into the bye week. We also got a glimpse

(39:28):
into Detroit taking care of business in Baltimore and are
the Ravens one of the most underappreciated team because they
gotta find ways to get wins. We heard from Joe
Cook of Inside Texas and we talked about Texas versus
Florida two thirty kick.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
You can hear all of the.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Action right here on your home for Texas Football Sports
Radio AM thirteen hundred, The Zone and always free on
the iHeartRadio always free. But right now I want to
get into the Dallas Cowboys. The news came out yesterday
that issues issues were being had as two of the

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Dallas Cowboys' best players, well Cede Lamb and the rookie
mister Booker, has now dealing with ankle springs.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
And this is a high ankle spring.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
So these guys are a lot of work to get
into at this particular time. It changes the dynamic of
the Dallas Cowboys and now it puts a lot of
pressure on Dak Prescott again. You got to see what's
going to happen on that offensive line, and it looks
like Tyler Booker is going to be headed to the

(40:46):
er with his ankle injury, I mean to the ir
with his ankle injury. So you start looking at this
team and you're like, Wow, what's going to happen? And
oh yeah, on the offensive line, you got Micah Parsons
coming in this weekend, and you got your Davian Clowney
set to make his debut against the Packers.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
So this is a not a good situation.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
And by the way, the defense is terrible and they're
trying to figure out what they're gonna do next. Is
it time to start giving other guys opportunities in that defense?

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Is it the personnel, is it the play calling? What
is it?

Speaker 2 (41:25):
I think hard you just got to try to see
what you have in the cupboard, because we know the
struggles that Diggs has been having for the last two years.
There are guys that they brought in. There are guys
that are injured right now that are not playing. But
Bland is supposed to come back this week. Next week,
Agent zero comes back, so you have two really good

(41:48):
players that'll be coming back in the next two weeks.
But and we get to see what clowny looks like.
So they don't they have improvement. They can't improve. I'm
not saying they will, but those three players on the
field at the same time, it's got to do something. Well,
here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
You're right, it's gonna do something with the subtraction of
dig None of those three are gonna be in shape
to play, that's true. They're not gonna be able to
come in and think that, well, we got a lockdown,
or we got a guy that's gonna go sideline the sideline. Yeah,
he's energetic. I'm talking about Marvey an Overshaw. He's energetic.
He's gonna be ready to go. But yeah, you're not

(42:31):
gonna be in the top tip top shape for you
to go out there and play a whole football game.
So you might provide a spark, but you're gonna be
on a pitch count. But the question was the Schottenheimer
are you afraid to make changes in your personnel?

Speaker 3 (42:47):
And truth be told, he's not.

Speaker 10 (42:50):
I really do think you have us bugged because that's
the second week in row.

Speaker 8 (42:55):
No.

Speaker 6 (42:55):
Yeah, no, that's one of the things we talked about today.

Speaker 10 (42:57):
That's something that we're gonna do for sure, because if
there is at times a lapse in communication.

Speaker 6 (43:04):
Then how do you foster that?

Speaker 10 (43:06):
Well, you fostered by having the guys on the room together,
and that's nothing revolutionary.

Speaker 6 (43:12):
It doesn't automatically solve the problem. It still has to
carry over to the field.

Speaker 10 (43:17):
But again, the standard is not the standard, and therefore
we will make changes and.

Speaker 6 (43:24):
Some will be schemed, so might even be personnel.

Speaker 10 (43:27):
We'll see, but we expect to play better against a
really good opponent coming in here Sunday night.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Wow, you sound like a football coach.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Well, I mean, there's a lot of things that need
to be changed, and I'm not afraid to make that change.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
So I'm glad to hear it. I'm glad to hear it.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Because you you know I was talking might have been
to you, Actually, no, it was on Sunday. And I'm like,
there's too much money. There's too much money involved with
this team. There's too much money paying to a guy
like Diggs who there he's constantly getting burned. But but

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are you. It's hard to bench a guy that you're
paying that much money to. It just doesn't sit right
with somebody that just paid him that money, especially because
he's an able body. It's not like he's sitting over
there because he hurt. You're benching him because you've lost
faith in him. So that's a lot of money to

(44:26):
be sitting on the bench and you're not getting anything
from it. But right now you're not getting anything from
it anyway, because his closing speed isn't what it.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
Used to be.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
He used to be able to bake people right and
then try to catch up on the ball.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Well, he's still not there.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Going back to what I said about the Ron Bland
Overshan and clowning, there's gonna be pitch counts for these
guys because they're not at their playing shape. And so
that's the part that kind of worries me. But nobody's
worried like Jerry Jones, because Jerry Jones said he ain't
worried because he firmly believes this is a playoff team troubles.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Yet I'm going to tell you yes, yes.

Speaker 8 (45:20):
Again again saying it doesn't make it suck at all.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
But so that's what I'm giving you how to do it.
I'm drunk, now, Okay, all right, I get it.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Jerry's like, yeah, what hold on, let me screw it.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
This bottle down real quick. Oh my god, Well, Jerry's.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Delusional man like I at this point, I always got
to beat.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
Thirty one to fourteen.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
And he talked about they believe yeah by the Chicago Bears.
The Chicago Bears beat the Cowboys handily, made in every fase,
made Caleb Williams look like the number one overall draft pick,
made them look like somebody that was about that life.

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He looked fast, his RM speed looked explosive. You made
him look like a superstar. What a joke, What a joke?
The Cowboys are.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
The joke is the personnel that they've wasted, wasted so
much money on. And you know, like Diggs is the
guy that's the lynch pin of the whole deal, like
to make the money that he's making top three money
in the NFL at corner and is not able to produce,

(46:51):
couldn't stay on the field the last two years. He
and I'm not making an excuse for him. He's coming
off of injury. He's coming off of surgery, yes, and
maybe he'll never be.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
What he used to be.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
And it took for this first three games to show them, Hey,
he didn't do the rehab.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
At the facility because he didn't want them to.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
See what everybody already knew is that he lost it.
It's time eat the money, go ahead, playing the rest
of the season. Chalk it up to the game. But
you broke it down earlier. He's going to get paid
twelve million dollars guaranteed.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
So you gotta get cut.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
If they cut him before June first, he gets paid
twelve million dollars. If they cut him after June first,
he gets fifteen million dollars.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
So that I mean, you saved that money and all
of it goes off the Can you cut him now?
You can't cut him now, you can't cut him now.
You gotta just just play him. You made your bed
laying it, so like, go ahead and get this season
over with. And I'm not trying to rush the season
you sounds like it. No, no, no, no, I'm not. I'm just

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saying that you want, you have to, you have to
play and hope that maybe in this week seven something
happens and it clicks and maybe it all comes back
to him.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Do you really have to play him?

Speaker 7 (48:22):
You might be better off just finding out what you
got on the bench.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Well, they're gonna they're gonna go at him that they're
gonna they.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
Can't wait the first play of the game.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Every team is gonna be like, all right, let's see
if he let's see if his legs will work.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Well, here's the other part of it too.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
On third and two, you can't be playing fifteen yards
off of a guy like you got to be able
to step up and make some plays and if you
can't do that.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
So there's so much, so much that is going on
to the point.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
That this Cowboy team, it's a bigger issue than just
the defense. If you start to look at their person
in the draft that they've had over the years. Defensively,
they've hit home runs on the offensive line, they've done
a really good job on the offensive line. But when
you start to look and this was on one O

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five to three the fan up in Dallas, the flagship
for the Dallas Cowboys there, but you can also hear
the Dallas Cowboys here on ninety eight one FM.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
But listen, they have this is what they said.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
They have had twenty five defensive picks since twenty twenty one.
Fifteen of those players are no longer with the Cowboys.
That that is an indictment on the research and the
drafting process of a team that is trying.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
To fix it.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
So you're telling me because you brought this up when
the trade happened.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Look, you got full picks, you got. This is just
telling you they don't get the picks right unless it's
on the offensive line.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
The offensive line has been outstanding in their drafting. Twenty
five defensive picks since twenty twenty one. Fifteen twenty twenty one,
fifteen of those picks are no longer with the football team.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Where they do that at That's a new segment right there.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Man, What do they do to that? Where do they
do that?

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Well, we're starting to see that the.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Slip is showing, oh like it.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Is definitely starting at the front office. And now the
Cowboys and their fans are dealing with it with the
front office. Yeah, that's not happening anymore.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
I'm done.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
I'm done until Sunday. Watch the game. Michael Parson's coming back.
When we come back, we're gonna go to htown.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
They've got their own issues.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
As we listen and talk to our guy, Mark vandermir
the voice of the Houston Texans, which you can hear
every Sunday on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred The Zone.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
We talked about what was going down in the metroplex.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Now we got to go down to h town and
talk to our guy, Mark vandermir the voice of the
Houston Texans, which you can hear every game right here
on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred The Zone and Mark,
when you were on your way to Jacksonville. It seemed
like we were very optimistic going into it, and we

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were talking about the offensive line, the play calling and
protecting CJ.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
Stroud.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Well, that didn't go as planned and it was a
tough loss seventeen to ten for the Texans as they
now go back to the drawing board and are sitting
at zero and three.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Yeah, this is terrible.

Speaker 8 (51:53):
I mean, only three is awful. The Texans are the
only team in the last twenty five years to make
the playoffs after zero and three, and they did it
in twenty eighteen, and they unfortunately have been in some
tough spots where they've made the playoffs. They were two
and five in twenty fifteen and a really dead team,
blown out twice and they were able to win the

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division that year somehow. But look, you are where you
are right now, and this is what matters. Got to
beat the Titans on Sunday. As far as the Jags
game went, yeah, it was optimistic because they should.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Have beaten the Jaguars.

Speaker 8 (52:26):
The game was there for the taking. They had the
ball and the Jags end of the field in the
fourth quarter four times, had one touchdown with a fifty
yard TD pass to Nico Collins, and three turnovers count
them three. That is unacceptable. They know it. They've got
to do better than that. If they just hang out
of the ball, they probably could kick a couple of

(52:47):
field goals and get the win. Because the Jags don't
get the ball, maybe they don't get that last touchdown.
It puts a lot of pressure on the defense when
your offense is not producing, and they are definitely not.
They have some moments, they have some things they can
work with. Demiko Rance has taken a lot of heat
for saying we're close.

Speaker 5 (53:04):
Now.

Speaker 8 (53:05):
He doesn't mean they're close to being a great team.
They were just close to winning each of these three games,
and they got to find a way to pull one
out of the end.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Mark Demico Ryans is that fault because he's the one
that hired these coordinators and and a lot of people
are going to be mad at me, especially in my
Houston contemporaries. But who who does it fall on? When
you hire an offensive coordinator that has zero experience in
in the NFL, and you and and you're you're the

(53:35):
defensive coach, and and you're you're you're making calls that
are keeping you in the game, but they're not they're
not helping you to be a dominant defense. So, uh,
don't you think some of the pressure goes on Demico?

Speaker 8 (53:50):
Absolutely? And Dimico would be the first one to tell
you that. I mean, the buck stops with him. He
makes these hires, he builds out his staff, and I'm
not ready to give up Nick Keley. I think this
is a bad start, there's no question, because you've got
to get CJ. Stroud in this passing game going again.
They're not running the ball great either, but it's not
terrible terrible. There's some elements that you like. There's some

(54:14):
pushes by Chubb that you like where he's really getting
a good surge, Woody Marks really getting some good yardage
on occasion. But it's not enough. It's not like they're
smash mounting and you look at the Colts, you look
at some other teams that are able to run the ball,
it's a completely different picture. You know, you're far quide
from getting a back to go over one hundred yards.

(54:35):
It just feels anemic right now. And I think a
lot of it has to do with this new offensive line.
A lot of it has to do with yes new
coordinators getting his first time doing this in the NFL.
I asked Tomko yesterday, you think the uptempo offense would help,
and he thought, yeah, you know, there's no question it
worked at times, and he wants to see a little
bit more of that. You got to do it selectively.

(54:57):
You got to pick your right spots, and they're all
learning on the job together. It is what it is.
You hired Nick, and hopefully this works. You know, hopefully
that this is just a warming up period and you're
gonna get a much better result. But you are where
you are at oh to three. And yeah, the offense
is the side of the ball you put this on
much more than the defense. I think the defense is
fot This defense is playoff deep, playoff run defense. If

(55:20):
your offense is just average or slightly above average, you're
in good shape right now. You're at least two in one.
Maybe you're three and zero.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Yeah, And that's the crazy part about all of this.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
We're talking to the voice of the Houston Texans, Mark
vandermir and Mark, I looked at this game, and I
watched the entire game, and the one thing that continues
to rear its ugly head. It just seems like they're
taking forever to get the play call in. Do you
think that's part of the problem of not necessarily knowing

(55:50):
everything that this new offensive coordinator is trying to call.

Speaker 8 (55:56):
I think that was an issue in the Rams game.
It got better against Tampa Bay, and then it took
a step back or two I mean not two steps back,
but on occasion that.

Speaker 6 (56:07):
Was an issue.

Speaker 8 (56:07):
Not all the time, but it was an issue against Jacksonville.
Maybe that's something to do with being on the road
where the communication is just tougher. But they all got
to learn to work together better, faster, get the play,
get up to the line so you can see what
you got to work with you as far as what
the defense is presenting you, so you can call out
the coverages, I mean, the call out the blocking scheme

(56:28):
better because you've got to protect. You've got to find
a way to keep CJ. Stroud upright, he's not having
a great deal of accuracy compared to what he was
two years ago. And I can't really tell you why.
Maybe they took everybody by surprise. Who knows the receiver
crew you had Tank Dell stretched the field. This is
the first game they played with Christian Kirk and ooh,

(56:51):
it wasn't like a bonanza of catches. I think he's
really gonna help, but you got to work him into
the mix now in a regular season context, so there's
a lot to be done. You're hoping that Titans of
the team that makes it all better, but they're desperate too,
so who knows what happens?

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Mark, it was it was blatantly obvious that they're getting
the plays in slow.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
CJ.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Stroud has his hands over his ears and he's waving
like come on, come on, come on, and like you
need that extra four or five seconds so you can
get to the line and you can see the coverage
and you can make a call all audible.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
He he you don't have a chance to make audible.

Speaker 8 (57:29):
Yeah, it's hard, it's how you thinking. Yeah, it's hard
if you're if you're getting what you described where he's
asking for the play and they don't have it yet
or it's taken that long to describe. Now, part of
this system is still that West Coast system. It's kind
of a hybrid. Some of those play calls are ridiculously long,
and the quarterbacks, when they get to know them better,

(57:51):
I know it's a different situation for them. I talked
to Matt schap about this once. I said, give me
a play, give me a play call, and it was
this soliloquy that he gave. I couldn't believe how long
it took to call a play. Said, yeah, but when
the coach is calling it, I know what he's gonna call.
He gets like three words into it. All right, I'm good,
we got it. But that's after years of working together
and they haven't done that yet. So I don't know

(58:11):
what the answer is. Other teams are able to do
it better. They were able to do it better at
times last year and certainly two years ago. They got
to find a way to do it better this year.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Well, let's turn our focus now to the Tennessee Titans.
As you said, they're both a desperate team. Both come
in zero in three, and this is a divisional match up.
The Texans are six and a half point favorite coming
into this ball game.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
What do they need to do to get this win?

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Because that'll change a little bit of everything once you
get one of them.

Speaker 8 (58:42):
My buddy andre Ware said it best pretend they're the
Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Prepare that way, Prepare.

Speaker 8 (58:48):
That hard that way. I'm not calling the Titans a
look ahead game. They can't be, not for a team
that's oh in three. But you look at what the
Titans do. They give up one hundred and forty five
on the round a game. I mean, that is nasty bad.
So you should be able to run the ball.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
But we all know should.

Speaker 8 (59:06):
As a word that shouldn't exist in football. And they've
got Jeffrey Simmons, who's a demon in the middle of
that defense. I mean, this guy's frightening. So he's been
a terror for the Texans over time. But you should
be able to get this one, you know, And then
I said it again, you know, stop me. They need
to find a way to get a win any which
way they can. I think they are close to winning

(59:28):
these games. Like Tomiko said, They're not close to being
a great offense, but they are close to being able
to put some things together and they've got to do
it really fast.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
What's the latest on Derek Stingley. I know we're a
few days out. He's got some time, but he's still
sitting questionable with that oblique injury.

Speaker 8 (59:45):
Yeah, and I think that's what he's gonna be. I
don't I don't really know anything new. I mean that
he didn't come back into the game after he went
out for the second time. I thought Treymont Smith did. Okay,
I thought he really did, you know, pressed into action
on that day the long pass Brian Thomas Junior wasn't
on him, and I talked to Traymont. I think our
interview is up with him on YouTube right now. He

(01:00:07):
is a good guy to have on your team, obviously
as a return man, but also as somebody who can
fill in a corner and if they have to, they
will because you definitely need sting against the Ravens a
week from Sunday. So get this one and then next
week we'll talk about the Ravens and if you get
shock the world, your season is back on track. But
you got a long way to go before that is

(01:00:28):
a factor.

Speaker 6 (01:00:29):
So let's see what they can put together.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Man, We're begging and we're hopeful, right we're trying to
figure out a want to get this done. I know
that the folks in h town are getting a little
bit impatient when it comes to this football. Letl we've
seen it all, that is for sure. As always, we
enjoy the conversation. I know I was excited about it

(01:00:53):
because I knew you were going to bring the energy,
because I knew you're gonna be fired up. And that's
exactly what we got. There is the voice of the
Houston Texans. You want to hear every home game or
every game excuse me on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred
The Zone.

Speaker 8 (01:01:08):
Thanks Mark Rich, guys, appreciate.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
It, no problem.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Yeah, it's a it's like he said, a little little.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
This is rough. It's rough in them streets over there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
And we got Marcus over here trying to sit down
with Jerry Jones and see if they can share.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Man, my uncle and on have season tickets. They are
hurt right now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Yeah, I can imagine when we come back, we're gonna
have the world's strongest man bringing you his world's strongest
take right here on the morning kickoff on Sports Radio
AM thirteen hundred The Zone.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
You heard the beat drop. It could only mean one thing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
WWE Hall of Famer and recognized as the World's strongest man.
He is date Mark Henry brings you his world's strongest Take.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Take it away, big fellow, hard what's happening? You know
what time it is? What time is?

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
It's time for the world's time. Take by the world's
strongest man. MA guess back then they didn't know me.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Now I'm hot. They all on me. Guys, I'm hot today.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
I'm aggravated. I'm not even There's no other way around it.
I'm I'm almost.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
At the highest level of passivity that you can get.
Stephen A. Smith has, He's done it. I'm full. The
buffet of verbal.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Garbage is at all time high.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
Stephen A.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Smith is always taking hisself out of the sports world,
which is his job.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
He is a sports analyst.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
At the end of the day, I'm tired of the politics.
I don't talk about politics, I don't dwell in it.
Stay out of it. He's made every issue with athletes
a personal attack. He did it with Kendrick Perkins, he
did it with Lebron James, he did it with Molly

(01:03:13):
mcquern and now he's making the personal attack on Travis Kelsey.
And just because you say, oh, my god, heart, that's
a nice hat you got on. Oh that's got to
be a five thousand dollars suit. You look sharp as
the border health That don't make it okay for you

(01:03:35):
to instantly throw in a stab. That's his mo. He
gives you the compliment and then stab you right in
the back. Travis Kelcey is not the player that he
used to be. But who is When you're out of

(01:03:56):
your prime and you lose two of your focal point
wide receivers and all the pressure goes to you and
you say, you know what, coach, give it to me.
I'm gonna do the best I can do, which is
what he's doing because he's playing with their fourth and

(01:04:16):
fifth wide receivers because the top three guys are out.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
But then you go.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Out and you make it your business to point out, well,
he just not the man that he used to be.
I mean, he's a great player and all back in
the day, but now you know, I'm tired.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
The personal attacks have gotta stop. Gotta stick to the sports.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
See what it is is Stephen Ay thinks that he's
untouchable and he's not, and I'm saying that somebody's gonna
put hands on him.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Lebron walked up to him.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
This past season basketball season, says, say my name again,
mention my son in a negative light, and I'm gonna
put these hands on you. When you get a top, premier,
world famous athlete to crack, it's time to chill out.

(01:05:19):
And it's and and and and all of the uh.
He did the same thing with Shannon Sharp. You're not
people's father, you're not people's big brother. Stay out of
their personal lives and stick to the sport and the
work that you do with them. Now, if they give
you the permission to say, hey man, you can comment

(01:05:40):
on my on my wife and my kids.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
Like I trust you that much.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
You're like a brother to me, that's something altogether different.
These people don't know. You keep it in the sports world.
What say you? Well, all the way around you start
to kind of look and see this is what Stephen A.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
Smith has become.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
I mean, that's how he's being the guy that he
is right now and people paying for it and doing
that and being able to do the things that they have.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Decided is going to pay him.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
He's become the highest paid person in television. They've also
created a spot for him to be a political viewpoint
of the world now and if that's how he's gonna
make his money.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
Look, look, it's easy to turn it off. It's easy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
You ain't gotta listen to it, don't pay attention to it,
don't waste your time on frivolous conversations with him. I
don't listen to him. I don't watch him. I don't
spend my time looking at what he's doing. Yeah, there's
some things that we'll grab a clip or something that
I'll see, but it's not I don't consume it. And

(01:07:00):
that's my choice, right And so okay, that's how that's
how certain people can So you're.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Telling me if I don't like Brussels, don't eat Brussels browns.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Basically nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Basically, I mean he he lights my fire man.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
There's because he's a bully.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
And that's the thing that I can't handle. The hard
I've never I've been a lot of things in mine.
I've been arrogant, I've been self absorbed, a narcissist at times,
but I needed that to be the athlete that I
had to become.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
But maybe that's what he needs to be the amblysce
that he is. Oh my god, no, no, maybe no,
he does good work.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
He's he's one of the best reporters in finding information.
When it comes to finding information and having relationships to
get people to sit down in front of him and talk.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
There's not many people better. There's financial gain for all
of us to that's true to him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
But that guy right there is got.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
To start with the personal attacks. That's all I'm asking.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Is it asking too much to say, hey, man, leave
my wife and my kids out of this. Is it
too much to not talk about Well, you're making those
pennies over there. On the other man, he was getting
in other people money because you make twenty million dollars
a year, forty you now you can laugh at my

(01:08:26):
little two million dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
That's kind of where he's at right now. I hate that.
I don't like it. I never like it. I don't
like bullies.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
But that is where those other people that you mentioned
have to say something and stand up.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Somebody needs to stand up to him. That's their fault.

Speaker 7 (01:08:43):
Let's not forget where it started with him.

Speaker 11 (01:08:46):
You don't want to make an enemy out of me
and I'm looking right into the camera and I'm gonna
see it again. You do not want to make an
enemy out of me. I'm not having it. I've done wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Who is he? Don Carlyon.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
He's trying to let you know that. Does he really
think he's a tough guy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
He's made it perfectly clear that he's gotten people money
at uh, the Ford Letter Network. He's got people jobs
at the Four Letter Network. And he's also pretty much
don't make an enemy of me. Oh my god, I'm
so scared in the camera. Is that camera one on me?

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Don't do it because you don't won't.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Yeah, yeah, he's this way to deal with a bully.
Tune the mouth, stay away from him, don't even watch him.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Ain't time or sneak up on.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Him when nobody's around and there's nobody to pull you
off me.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
Were non violent over here? None violent. Great take by
the world's strongest man.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Coming up next, we're gonna close out the show.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Send you to Dan Patrick Hstown.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
You got a problem in Best Page, USA is coming
for you right here on the morning kickoff on sports
Radio AM thirteen hundred The Zone. Another great show in
the books. All you Got to Do is Get over
to the podcast page if you missed any parts of
the show, and always download the free iHeartRadio app. I

(01:10:23):
want to thank Joe Cook of Inside Texas for joining us.
I want to thank the Voice of the Houston Texans,
Martin Vandermere, as we are your home for the Texans.
You can tune in to them this Sunday as they
take on the Titans at noon, but they have the
pregame show right before that, so keep all things AM

(01:10:45):
thirteen hundred the zone. Since we were talking about H Town,
there were some news that came out yesterday that was
not good news for the Houston Rockets. The Rockets been
in the news all off season because of the acquirement
of guess who, Kevin Durant KD coming to H Town.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
Everyone's excited about it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
But news came out yesterday that Fred Vlamfleet has now
torn his acl and now the Rockets are looking for
someone else to facilitate for what Fred Lavite was going
to do with Kevin Durant.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Hard that's a horrible blow because you know he is
a great facilitator, brilliant guy. Awso mind somebody that they
had very high hopes of leading this team to a championship,
and now he's gone. They need a veteran point guard
out there on the free agent market. Chris Paul comes

(01:11:50):
to mind. He's a great facilitator. You don't have to
worry about him being a problem in the locker room.
He's always he's well respect He's been the president of
the Players Association before. Like, I mean, he's a quality guy,
but more than anything, competitive, tough and unbelievable Hall of

(01:12:15):
Fame facilitator. But long in the two and you're gonna
have to load manage him, and when it gets close
to the end of the season, you're gonna have to
almost shut him down so he's ready for the playoffs.
So I mean, it's damned if you do, damned if

(01:12:35):
you don't. But they gotta find somebody because I don't
think that Reeed Shepherd is gonna be the guy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
He's a good shooter, but he's not the facilitator.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Kevin Durant needs somebody to break a defense down and
give him the ball where everybody's sagging and uh, he's
able to do his thing with one on ones or
with people trying to recover. You can't have Kevin Durant
standing out there holding the ball like Lebron Like he's
not that guy he can be. He doesn't want to,

(01:13:09):
but you don't even want to do that. That's how
he plays.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
But I think Reed Shepherd's gonna be a good fix
for what they're gonna try to do because he can't
score the bucket. He has been in that position to
where he's had to learn how to play NBA style
of basketball and this is this is that next man
up mentality. I believe that Idoka is one of the

(01:13:34):
best coaches in the NBA and he will find a
way to get it done. Yes, there may be a
move that needs to be made, especially as you said,
you lose your your option over there with fred Fred
van Vliet. But I believe that this Reed Shepherd is
gonna get his opportunity to lead this team because he
can't score the basketball.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
And let's not forget Thompson. Thompson can't created.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Yeah, Emir's a I mean, Amen is a really really
good an electric player, but.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
I think he's a two three.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
Once they moved the ball, I mean, the ball ain't
gonna be staging it anyway. I mean, these guys move it,
and Adokah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Is not gonna let you not pass the ball. So
that's just not how for a center.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Yeah, so they're they're gonna be there's gonna be some
options out there. But to your point, there are some
some moves that will probably be looked at and possibly
be made. But right now, going into it, it was
something that they wasn't expecting. So, uh, moving Chris Paul
into that position, I don't know if that's a good
thing or a bad thing, depending on where Chris Paul is.

(01:14:44):
He said that this was gonna be his last year
and shutting it down.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
So you know, Schroeder. Schroeder would be a good option.
I don't know who's roster he's on. I think that
he was. He might have been in Canada, he might
have been up there and with the Raptors.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
I know he was with him at one point, but
I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
But Schroeder would fit because he's a really good facilitator
and he attacks the basket and breaks the defense down.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
So they do have to.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
Find which one of those guys is. You know, get
somebody young enough that they won't break down over playing
thirty minutes a game.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Well, you start looking at it, and this team the
way that they're set up, you start to understand that
they might be able to get by with it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
They might be able to get by with it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
But Marcus, who else's guards on that team other than Shepherd?

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
That's Shepherd's a shooter. Like I mean, you know, if
you have to look it up, don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
But Chris Paul is with the Clippers right now, So
that's that's a no numb Yeah. Yeah, they already got
their own issues Slippers do, so get rid of Chris Paul.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
I would love to be a fly in the locker
room to see Chris Paul and James Harden in the
same locker room.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
Don't forget about Kawhi. Oh my god. So yeah, don't
forget about that. Well, we do have we do have
a Ryder Cup getting ready to start. And Kegan Bradley
is the captain of the Ryder Cup and here's what
he had to say about being able to start the
Ryder Cup this weekend.

Speaker 12 (01:16:29):
Well, I'm not concerned about what Europe does or what
they think. I'm more I'm concerned about what my team's doing.
And you know, I was tasked with the job the
PGA of America asked me to do, and you know,
this was what we decided. And you know, we wanted
to bring the Ryder Cup into today's age and we
felt like this is the best way to do it.

(01:16:50):
We copied a lot about what the President's Cup does,
and you know, we did the best we could. And
I think a lot of good is going to come
from this. I think that the players going to do
a lot of good with this money, and I think
it's great.

Speaker 13 (01:17:04):
I mean, obviously you rightly recognize that the players are
able to do a lot good with it. I think
the O six a bit are questionable given the finances
already involved in golf.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
Do you have any do you have any regrets about
that aspect?

Speaker 12 (01:17:18):
So I don't really get that, but I think you know,
the goal here was the charity dollars hadn't been raised
in twenty five, twenty six years, and that's what we
started out doing. And we again, we did a lot
of what the President's Cup did. And these players are
going to do the right thing and do a lot

(01:17:39):
of really good with this money.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
I mean, you can say that, but I think that.

Speaker 12 (01:17:43):
The players are really good people aren't going to do
a lot of good things.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
So what he's talking about is, for the first time
ever US Ryder Cup players will compete, will be paid
to compete. So when they picked these names and all
these great players were chosen to be a part part
of it, they're just they're paying them.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
Europe is not paying high gun. Yeah, so hat you
got when you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
Got Scottie Scheffler, Justin Thomas Bryce and the Shambo, Patrick
can Lay and JJ Spaun and Xander Shopley. You got
guys that can go out there and get things done.
They're paying them to be there. And yes, thank you
Mark for the hat, for your all cariba in Wrestling,
and thanks You're welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
Nice that I've had it on for three hours. I
waited til the end the bright Yeah I could.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
I want to thank you. I'm gonna take it off now.
I want to thank everybody for tuning in as always,
will be better tomorrow. Danny Davis of the Austin American
Statesman will join.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
Us this week.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
We'll have coach Slasnego on as well as they will
be taking on Texas Tech this weekend. Oh yeah, we'll
have baseball and it will be at the Dale Diamond.
I'll give you more information tomorrow right here on the
morning kickoff from Mark Henry from Marcus. I'm Harball Hart
and just remember this. Don't believe everything you see, because
even salt looks like sugar.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Peace,
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The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.

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