Winners & Losers Monday: College Football Bye Week, Cowboys-Packers Tie, MLB Playoffs, and Mental Health Talk

Today, Winners and Losers Longhorns Monday,” the guys discuss college football this weekend as Texas had a bye week, and the new AP poll rankings are out. In the return of Micah Parsons, the Dallas Cowboys and the Green Bay Sunday Night game ends in a 40-40 tie. The Heisman hopefuls’ favorites have changed; we have different favorites. Major League Baseball Playoffs are on, and both teams from Texas have been eliminated. We are previewing the Monday Night Football games tonight. A “Hardge Knocks Life” and “The World’s Strongest Take!” Plus, September is “Mental Health Month,” so we have a conversation with Todd Gaulding, a friend of Rudi Johnson, to discuss mental health. You can hear it all here on “The Morning Kickoff Show!”

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Speaker 3 (02:40):
But there's a lot that is going on with Texas football.
What you got, Mark? What am I going to ask
you right now about about the remote?

Speaker 1 (02:49):
I'm not even going there. It's too early in the morning.
I knew that that was going to be part of it. Man.
But you start to look at what's happened in the
top twenty five, and it has changed drastically when you
start to look at the games over the weekend, the
games over the weekend.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Were there was a lot of action that was happening.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
You look at the Oregon and Penn State game that
was a double overtime matchup.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
We'll talk about that. You talk about Bama.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
We were talking about what was gonna happen with Bama
when all was said and done, and Kaitlin de Bor
he just finds a way to win against these top
coaches in college football. But the ap Pole comes out
yesterday and now the rankings have changed. Ohio State is

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now the number still the number one team, after they
beat down Washington. I thought Washington was gonna give him
a game.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
I did too.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Not so not so much, my friend Oregon, as I said,
five and zero in the Big Ten. The two top
teams in football all right now reside in the Big Ten.
Double overtime victory for Oregon. You look at Miami. They
were idle this week. Oh Miss. Wow, what a game

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by Oh Miss. As they defeat LSU twenty four to nineteen.
Oklahoma is at number five. Texas A and m is
at number six. They jumped three spots to go after
they beat Auburn at home sixteen to ten. Penn State
drops to number seven, dropping four spots after their loss

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to Oregon in double overtime.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Indiana is up.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Three spots after they beat Iowa twenty to fifteen. Texas
Longhorns come in at number nine, going up one spot
after being ranked number ten last week.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Alabama three and one. Remember they were trying to rup
seventy million dollars the buyout. We're getting rid of them.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Well, he goes and beach Georgia twenty four to twenty one.
Texas Tech was idle. They went up spot to number eleven.
The Georgia Bulldogs fall seven spots. They were at number five.
They are now three and one after their loss to Bama.
LSU drops nine spots to number thirteen after their loss

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to Ole. Miss Iowa State stays at number fourteen after
beating Arizona thirty nine to fourteen. Tennessee beats Missisispior. Yeah,
beats Mississippi State for the Mississippi State's first loss. Tennessee
is four and oher and they are ranked number fifteen.
Diego Pavia man, Oh my goodness, he just keeps on

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doing it. Oh, he keeps rolling. They're up two spots
to number sixteen after defeating Utah State fifty five to
thirty one.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Too low, I think they should be higher.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Well, they're gonna get opportunity because their schedule kind of
heats up here pretty soon. So if they keep winning
and keep playing the way that they're playing, they're gonna
get an opportunity. Georgia Tech defeats Wake Forest thirty to
twenty nine. They stay at seventeen. Florida Florida State, excuse me,
Florida State three and one drops ten spots after losing

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to Virginia forty six to thirty eight. We knew that
was gonna happen. Missouri five and zero up on spot
they beat they beat U. Mass number twenty is Michigan
down three spot or down the spot. Then you also
have no tre dame at twenty one after they beat

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Arkansas fifty six to thirteen, and that is a firing
of the head coach Sam Pittman at Arkansas. And the
funny thing about that mark is full circle moment as
Bobby Petrino, who got fired after his motorcycle accident with
a co ed on the back ended up. Now he's

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back as the head coach, as the interroom head coach.
Full circle moment for Bobby Petrino. Illinois four and one
after they beat USC thirty four to thirty two. They
are twenty two BYU four and oh after they beat
Colorado in one heck of a football game because Colorado
was winning that game early and then it ended up

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with BYU finishing them off. Virginia four and one, they're
ranked and they're finish it off with Arizona State at
twenty five as they beat TCU twenty seven twenty four.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Man, what a weekend, Yeah, what a weekend. The only
thing this weekend missed was Texas playing yup. Like, if
we could have had a Texas game, it would have
been perfect. Because the games were very competitive, and that's
all you really want to ask. You want to have good,
solid football. The way you just people start playing, you
just want to turn the channel. That's not good man, right,

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If we didn't get that this weekend, I was very
happy with watching the games.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, these games were very competitive, and as you said,
you like to be around. Starting on Friday night, you
get to see a lot of these teams that get
those Friday night games.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
You get to focus on them, like Dion.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Dion had an opportunity to win that, but oh they
were late Saturday game. That was the TCU game that
was Friday night, And so you start to look at
and the Florida State game was on a Friday night
as well. So you start looking at all of these
teams as we're getting closer and closer to figuring out
which teams are legit which teams are not. This weekend

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you got more matchups, big matchups in the SEC. As
you start to look at Kentucky is headed to Georgia.
Georgia is gonna have to bounce off of that that
is eleven am kickoff Texas at Florida. We'll talk about
that all week as we have coach Sark with his
press availability today that you can hear right here on

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your home for Texas football. That game two thirty. Then
you have Oklahoma and Vanderbilt. I mean, excuse me, Alabama
and Vanderbilt. Remember I told you their schedule is about
to pick up Alabama ranked number ten. Uh diego Pavia
going into Tuscaloosa to see what he's gonna be able

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to do. He leads the team in passing and rushing.
So you start to look at it and you're like, oh,
this dude is scrambling around. Ty Simpson is sharp. I
will talk about him in my Hard Knox Life. Take
you got Oklahoma. This this is the week that y'all
play Kent State. Huh yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the

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week y'all play Kent State.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Man, you gotta make sure that you got. You gotta
make s that you get.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Then you have the night matchup at six point thirty
as Mississippi State makes their trip to Kyle Field to
take on the number sixth rank Texas.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
A and M fight Naggies. Think about that they're.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
The number sixth ranked team in the country, and people
still don't seem to be fired up for what A
and M is doing. They've been impressive all season long.
And that quarterback Marcel Reid, he's been explosive casey conception
on at wide receiver. He's an absolute playmaker and a dog.

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I mean, you start looking at this SEC, it's a
little bit different than what folks are used to and
that's why everybody's kind of like shaking their head because
the big dogs aren't sitting on the porch anymore.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Now.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
The two teams in the SEC that nobody thought at
the beginning of the year would be five and zero
is Missouri and.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
A and M.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Now Vanderbilt, you kind of saw that. You know, they're
they're gonna be tough. There's some scrappiness to it. And
they didn't play the dogs that A and M have
played in Missouri at played so you didn't think it.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
But here we are hard.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, it's going to be it's going to be an interesting,
interesting week and as the season goes on, we're gonna
continue these conversations. Texas Longhorns back at an action. You
can hear Coach Sarks presser starting at eleven o'clock on myself,
Craig Way, and our guy Cam Parker leading you up

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to our eleven thirty presser with Coach Sark coming up next.
We're gonna continue the conversations. We're gonna look across the
sec and see all the numbers. We're also gonna talk Cowboys.
Cowboys folks. Yeah, we're coming back with the Cowboys. That's
what We're gonna do. A big time game last night

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Speaker 3 (11:47):
Welcome back to the morning.

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Kickoff right here on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred The Zone.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
We'll continue those.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Conversations about all things in CAAA and our number two.
In the next segment, we'll talk Heisman Trophy hype and
is anyone excited about the news that came out in
the middle of the Cowboys game at halftime that the
halftime entertainment for the Super Bowl is going to be

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Bad Bunny?

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Like?

Speaker 3 (12:18):
What? How? How did this all come about?

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Isn't he one of the highest selling artists in the
world right now?

Speaker 3 (12:24):
But do a lot of people know Bad Bunny? Like?

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Just like last year, people were losing their mind about
the Kendrick lamartin.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
You see how many followers he's got.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
I know how many followers he's got. But all those
people watching the super Bowl, I don't know they they
will be now, They will be now because he's on.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
There may trying to get another audience.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
I think that he's done. I know that he's been
pretty good in the movies. I saw him in Happy
Gilmore too. He was he was really dream thee It's
like the Express train. No, obviously nothing. It was pretty good.
Brad Pitt, I have not seen nothing. I thought he
did a good job in that. I didn't know he
was that good of an actor.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Actually.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, So we'll see what ends up happening and see
how the excitement kind of rolls into everything.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
But the exception is he really.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
He had the best wrestling match at pay per view
of any celebrity that's ever been in the ring. Absolutely incredible. Yeah,
he done a couple of yeah, but the match he
had with Damian it stands up with any wrest of
the match you say, I was like, how does he
do this?

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Wow? Interesting? Well I'll see if I have time for that.
Let's get into this Dallas Cowboy team.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Oh, come on, man, why because last night the Dallas Cowboys,
if they would have had any any kind of stop,
last night, the Cowboys get a victory. Uh Dak Prescott
went out and played his behind off, kept this team
in there, no CD lamb and still threw for over

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three hundred yards.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
And three pities.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
And you look at what Pickens was able to do
when he finally decided, Okay, I'm gonna stop pouting and
I'm gonna start playing. Then you start looking around and
you're like, Okay, this is a great game plan for
what was happening last night for the Cowboys. But the
disappointing part of it not only because you end up

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in a tie. It's the fact that your defense is
still awful. If I'm walking into now, look, we all
looked at Green Bay as a team that was going
to be one that was gonna be You're gonna see
them later in the season because of what they've been
able to do, the ability to score when they get

(14:50):
those opportunities. But last night, you give up forty points
and you tie. You don't win, don't lose, you tie,
And both of these defenses looked like a sieve. The
way that they both quarterbacks were able to move the ball.

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The running game for the Cowboys looked great last night.
The play action what if? I said the entire time,
I said, if Dak Prescott is going to be effective,
it has to be play action. You have to have
some resemblance of a running game. The disappointing part of
it is what is going on with Jaden Blue? Is
Jaden Blue not able to read the playbook? Is that

(15:34):
why he's not being able to I don't know. You
drafted a guy in the fifth round and he has
been inactive in every ball game, every ball game. It's
ridiculous that. And now Miles Sanders was banged up last night,
So is he gonna get a chance to play by default?
And then all of a sudden he figures everything out

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and then boom.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Sometimes you gotta, you know, get out there and get
your get your Yeah, but don't get your quarterback killed. Yeah.
You better pick up on protection and know where to
block if you have trouble with protection.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
And that's the liability and the reason that they keep
you off the field. And I would say, as much
as I love University of Texas and as.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Much as I love Jason Blue.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
I leave him on the bench because if Dak is gone, yeah,
well so yeah you can kiss the baby.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Well, I'm excited.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
What from what I saw from Javonte Williams, Javonte Williams
has proven to be a a back that you could
count on. Yeah, you had a fumble last week, but
this week he was running hard between the tackles, he
was running through people. He was he was exciting to
watch run the football. As I said, what I saw

(16:49):
from Dak Prescott, he continues to make plays. He continues
to throw the ball to the right receivers. You know,
there was something that a lot of people had to
put some respect on his name last night, and Michael
Parsons talked about Dak's performance.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
I mean, bro, I think he was getting pressured all night.
Like you go watch that all twenty two and you
look how precise number before it looked tonight, just getting
through his throws, getting to his receivers, the timing. I
think he played a better game than me played defense.
So you know, shout out to Dak And I told him,
I said, you go watch that film and you're lucky
he wasn't on your been a long day it's been

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a real long day for you.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
But he played a hell of a game, and I
give him how do you think he played?

Speaker 4 (17:33):
Personally?

Speaker 5 (17:35):
I mean, you know, I don't like to talk about myself.
You just watched the film and you let me know
how I played.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Go ahead on, Michael. Don't think I'm gonna bash myself,
right right? Like who's that? Who's the reporter? Gotta ask
those questions though, You gotta ask those. You have to.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
You have to ask a player that had like five
Harry in the first half, like did he how do
how do you feel like you play?

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (18:05):
How do you think you How do you think you played?
How do you think you performed? After your wrestling match?
Did you feel like you did? You feel like you
did well?

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Mark?

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Most of the time okay, but there was times where
I felt like I didn't live up.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
He didn't get home. He only got home. He just
got the pressure.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
But like, man, you get a guy to have seven
pressures in a game, Man, that'spressive. So I would give
him an a, like.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
You go watch the film and tell me what you get.
So you gave him an A. I love there you got.

Speaker 6 (18:38):
The question is what would he give hisself. Would he
give himself an A maybe a BF.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
He might have given himself a B because he didn't
get home, because he didn't get there exactly. They gave
him credit for a sack that was not a sack.
Dak was scrambling, he was outside the pocket, he was
he got a positive game, and they gave him a sack.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yeah, I didn't understand that.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
That's just because they wanted to make sure Mike Hah
got some love. That's what it was all about.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
That that trying to stick it in Jerry Faith.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, they tried to. They tried to, but Jerry get
the last laugh. But I want you to hear from
Dak Prescott on the Packers and the Cowboys ending in
a tie.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Very yeah.

Speaker 7 (19:16):
I mean, you don't play the game for for ties.
I've told you before. I don't care about the stats.
I don't care about the ups and downs, the abs
and flows. I just care about the end result and
the win. And so when you don't get that right now,
it's tough for me.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
You know.

Speaker 7 (19:31):
Guess ten years in the first tie I've been a
part of, it was hard to kind of wrap my
head around it because I know I feel a hell,
a lot worse if it was a loss. But I'm
not satisfied, Not that I would be if we won,
but yeah, it's just it's a weird feeling. Yeah, faulty, faulty.
It's a couple of things.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
The Cowboys have not had a tie since nineteen sixty nine.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Is that not wild? Well, you shouldn't be. That makes
it a long term There's not a lot of ties
in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
I mean, you start looking around, you don't There should
not be a tie. Let's just say that there should
never be. To you, you think they should make them
keep playing until.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
There's a winner.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yes, regardless of the history of the league and them
changing the rule sudden death. After that everybody got the football,
That's what it was. I wanted to score after both
people had the ball, continue to play exactly.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Okay, Yeah, I'm with that.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
I don't think the NFL at this level, at this time,
with the advancements that are happening in all of this,
there should not be a tie in an NFL game.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
These are professionals. They could be.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Ties in college, they could be ties in high school.
There should not be ties in an NFL game. It
just doesn't It doesn't bode well.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
No, it doesn't. And the other second thing was Ferguson
has got more targets than any tight end in the
history of football in the first games.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Like I when the season started, I said, hey, man,
pick up Ferguson.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
He's gonna have the middle of the field.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Because of Dak throwing the ball to Ceedee Lamb and pickings.
I didn't think that he would get more targets any
tight end that ever played. Yeah, that's a lot of targets.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Man.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Well, I mean there's a lot of pressure that is
is happening as well. They're just like y'all, said Michael
Parson's getting there quick, all the hurries.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
What do you gotta do? You gotta find your tight end.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
They paid them down, they paid him, so start throwing
them the ball.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
That's right. They started looking around. Wish you I had
have had him on my fantasy team. I'm sure the
people that do have him.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Was definitely excited about last night and the entire season.
So much is happening in the NFL. What a great performance.
But it's too bad that the game ended in a tie.
Everybody's looking at each other like, wow, we just played
our behind and this is what we get. Nothing, nothing
warm milk and some cookies and go to bed.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
That's not good.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Milk and cookies. That's what you're gonna get. Coming up next,
I'm gonna talk about the Heisman hype. And there's one
guy that I've been told I need to keep paying
attention to.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Well, he proved to be correct.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
We'll talk about it right here on the morning kickoff
on sports Radio AM thirteen.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Hundred The Zone.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Welcome back to the Harts Knocks Life segment right here
on the morning kickoff on sports Radio AM thirteen one
hundred The Zone. I wanted to get into this conversation
real quick because as you start to look at the
Heisman Trophy, because if you go back to the beginning
of the season and you look at all the hype

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surrounding all of these different quarterbacks, it will kind of
drive you crazy. To be quite honest with you, when
you sit back and say, who was the preseason Heisman
Trophy favorite?

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Well, we know it was archbo it was it was
Arch Manning.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
There were different names that were being thrown around, and
obviously there's a lot of talent at the quarterback position. Well,
now you start to say, well, who's truly there? You
had DJ Lagway at one point being part of the conversation.
There were names being thrown around. Not one of those

(23:33):
names was Dante Moore, the quarterback for Oregon. Got a
chance to watch Oregon in Penn State on Saturday night.
It lived up to the height. It was outstanding football game.
Dan Lanning is a psychopath as a head coach. You
started looking at him on the sideline. That dude is

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lights out, turn on all the time, ready to go.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Like I'm like, is he on something? Because he's doing
a little too much.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
But you start to look and you say, Dante more
I watched the way he moved, and I was told
at the beginning of the season, this young man who
transferred from UCLA that didn't truly get an opportunity is
now lighting it up for the Oregon Ducks. You look
at ty Simpson. A lot of folks were upset with
ty Simpson. Didn't think he was gonna be the quarterback

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that he is right now leading Alabama. Well, he's now
second in the Heisman Trophy favorites. Jeremiah Smith, the big
wide receiver for Ohio State who Texas held in check
multiple times. Well, he's third at plus eleven hundred. Fernando Mendoza,

(24:48):
huh huh.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Say.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Who's that, Well, he's the quarterback for Indiana. He too
at eleven hundred, plus eleven hundred. Excuse me, Carson Beck.
All he does is keep winning, staying locked in, being
able to move the ball around. Miami one of the
top teams in the country. Carson back plus eleven hundred
and real quick. His delivery looks like a shot put through.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
He should be playing, he should be doing track and field.
That's why I don't think that he is consistent in
his delivery, because he tries to push the ball.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Rather than release it out of his hands.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Well, he must be doing something right because a bunch
of schools one of them, and he got paid a
lot of money in the schools and it seems to
be working. Dollars don't lie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the
name that is jumping out to me is this quarterback
for Ole Miss, Trinidad, Chamberless. He came from a division

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to school to play quarterback at Old Miss, and he
was the backup quarterback because there was another guy that
was in front of him that ended up getting hurt
and now Trinidad.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Has taken over.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Not only did he take over, he got a big
victory the other day in a big time matchup. So
when you start to look at these quarterbacks and the
players that are stepping up, as we talked about Arch Manning,
he was at one point the odds on favorite at
the beginning of the season. Now he's plus three thousand.

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Do you take that man? Let's see how he plays
this weekend against Florida. You got Diego Pavia. His team
is five and oh for five and oh yeah, and
you start to look at.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
It, he's plus eighteen hundred.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Another guy that was at the top of the list early,
Grant Nussmayer, Garrett Nusmarer, excuse me, the quarterback for LSU,
Well he's down there with he Che Manning at plus
three thousand. Drew Ayler, quarterback for Penn State, was supposed
to be the guy projected to be the number one
overall pick him and Kate Klubnick not seeing a lot

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of these guys stepping up to those situations. So the
moral of this is all these preseason hypes and jumping
on that money right away. That's why Vegas can continue
to have those big old buildings, because they set you
up your favorite for your failure. If you don't find

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it right and you don't have a for sure that
you have seen things that trend in the right direction.
You can't jump out there because you think it's a
great odd. It's a great odd, But in the point
of having odds is to win them.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
You gotta be able to win them.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
But when most people are not going to look at
my picks, I'm sure that like I took a bath.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
It's only like I think I won one game in
entertainment purposes and you are correct, only one one? Right? Yeah, Wow,
that was a miracle.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
See this and our family history that we're just not
good gambling. That's why my mom was so against me gambling.
She obviously knows her kids, she knows me.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
She knew that A that's gonna.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Be there's gonna be a lot of there's gonna be
a lot of anger.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, y'all gonna need to play for y'all, don't, Yeah, baby,
go play y'all. Bet Yeah, And I don't.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
I can't even like yeah you yeah, it's not good
for you, Mark, I think you think this is entertaining purposes,
like I'm trying to have fun, but y'all making me
not even want to do pig That's how bad it is.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
And you know you want to. You want to because
you won the uh you want to? Don't get my hopes?
You won the Houston Texans game and you won the
Oregon game. Okay, cool? Yeah, want to?

Speaker 1 (29:18):
You want to?

Speaker 3 (29:18):
So I'm not gonna still failure.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
It's below, it's below, below, below, and it's way below
my expectation.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, our god, Marcus, though he had one heck of
a weekend.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
No he didn't.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, he's only lost one game so far.
What Yeah, he's got tonight. Though, he's got tonight. I
don't like the brag, but you know I don't, sir, Please,
you might have.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
To see him.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
You might have to come and see him, so you
might start consulting with one young Marcus. You might have
to start Hey, Marcus, what are your picks before I
go up here? Because I don't want to postmine?

Speaker 3 (29:57):
So you want to cheat up his bra Yeah, arm
you might have to.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
You have to change your new moniker from hardball to
horrible hard.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Well, my picks have actually been okay this week? Did
you really?

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, I'm forign too. So that's that's called profit. That's
called profit. That's called profit.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
For that take your hand off his back. I know
you're not talking. I'm trying to.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
I was surprised you didn't walk in here with a
sling today because your arm was sore from patting yourself
on the back. But as I said, if you had
to pick one of those guys right now, who would
be your Heisman Trophy winning person, I.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Would go with the quarterback at Oregon because you know,
he's going to get the ball and he's going to
have opportunities to be the guy. And I didn't realize
he could scramble like he scrambled, and he's looking down
the field.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
He is actively looking down the field while he's not
just you know, he looks like a physically smaller bird.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Of Matier. Let's poke the breaks on my tier. I've
got some stats on my tier and things. Just hey,
they got.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
You.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Yeah that's the.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
John Cenea looks the scene. Yeah, coming up next, we're
gonna close out hour number one. The Texas baseball teams
are not moving forward. I'll tell you about it right
here in the morning on the morning kickoff on Sports
Radio AM thirteen hundred Liz one.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Man, oh Man Old Man coming up at the top
of the hour.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
We'll go back to the SEC as there's a lot
of changes going on in the SEC as we speak
when it comes to college football.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
A lot of moving and a shaking that is going on.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Speaking of moving and a shaking, there's a lot of
it that is going on in Major League Baseball. And
for the first time since twenty sixteen, the huge Easton
Astros did not make the playoffs. A lot of drink start. Yeah,

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you're gonna have to figure out what is truly going on.
I saw Carlos Korea had a conversation talking about on paper,
we probably have the best roster you can possibly have,
but good the games aren't played on paper.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
They're played on the field.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
And now the Astros will be going home and the
Major league season has come to an end with the
playoffs being set to start tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
And as you sit back today and you look at
the way that it all went down.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
If you look at the divisional champs and the Al
East was Toronto Blue Jays, big game yesterday for them
to win because they held the tiebreaker over the New
York Yankees. But you have the Yankees and Red Sox
kicking off the playoff season.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
How about that. Then you start to look across.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
You had the Cleveland Guardians, the Cleveland Guardians coming back
from fifteen and a half games down behind the Detroit
Tigers who somehow some way find a way to sneak
in to the playoffs, but they lose the division to
the AL Central to the Cleveland Guardians. Then you have

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the Mariners, who with the big dumpers crazy year sixty
home runs and now the Mariners are the lone team
out of the AL West that made the playoffs. Then
you start to look at the NL. The Phillies win
their division, only team out of the East because the

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Mets collapsed and ended up being eliminated from the playoffs
on the last day of the season.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
No Mets with a three hundred.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
And forty dollarion salary, forty million dollars salary and they
are not in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
You had the Brewers who put up a ridiculous number,
But you had the Cubs and the Cincinnati Reds sneak
in on the last day of the season to get
into the playoffs. And of course you have the West,
where the Dodgers the Padres are the two teams in
the West that give you a chance to maybe maybe

(34:35):
see a team out West win the World Series. But
I want you to hear how the Guardians got into
the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Right field. It's deep as the Roughs, the house at
the bottom of the nine, him the moonia and just

(35:16):
like that game over, Thanks Rangers. Yeah, I'm not laughing
at the thing.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Oh yeah, you got to, because that's the only way
he's masking it a walk off fashion. And the Rangers
they pretty much eliminated the Astros two nights in a row.
First off, they walk a guy to intentionally load the bases,
and then they hit him on the next pitch Game over.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
And then that right there, the walk off home run three.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Where they do that conversation, you're gonna walk again intentionally
intentionally yes, And then the next the next you hit
a guy exactly.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
It's ridiculous when you sit back and you think about
how this season.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
But the Rangers they were.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
In a bad spot anyway because they lost so many
guys because of injury.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
The Astros.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Jose Altuvez said he was playing with a busted foot
for the last couple of months and just trying to fight. Yeah,
there were some things that were happening, so he was
just like, I just tried to play through it. But
the team was on our no doubt, no doubt. So
now the bracket is set up and all things are

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the Guardians we'll take on the Tigers, the biggest collapse
in baseball with the Tigers and the Guardians will be playing.
The Mariners get a bye and the Blue Jays get
a bye, but the Reds we get Red Sox and Yankees.
That's going to be a battle. So I know you're

(36:59):
excited about that. That will be a big time battle.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
In the NL.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
You have the Reds and the Dodgers they will play tomorrow,
and the Padres and the Cubs will be taking on
each other tomorrow. You can follow all those games on
ABC and ESPN for most of the action.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
The only reason I'm excited is because the last maybe
fifteen games they played, they probably lost four and then
they playing good. Yeah, Yankas have been playing good these
last ten to fifteen games.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
But early in the season, hards Man I was wondering
whether or not they were going to make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yeah, they've won eight straight games, including last night, and
they're nine to one in their last ten. The Red
Sox are six and four in their last ten. So
the Yankees are hot at the right time. And ninety
four wins. Think about that. Ninety four wins is a
big number of wins. And people were still calling for

(38:03):
Aaron Boone's head. What But that's the nature of the
sports world. Now, if you have one off season, you know,
like I joke.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Around when I talk about you know, Diabo, Diabo is a.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Great coach, he just got to change his mindset, you know,
And and and a lot of these coaches.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
That's that's that's where the nature of the the fan base.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
You have off season and you can't play now of
a sudden, you can't coach no more, Like that's not true,
that's not the way it works. You just gotta let
things play out. And this baseball season has been exactly that. Yes,
you had a lot of coaches that they just they've
had too many injuries. They had to deal with this,
Like the Yankees at the beginning of the season, it

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was Judge. Yep, Judge missed like twenty games.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
And John Carlos Stanton. But now the bast Brothers are
still doing what they do. By the way, Aaron Judge
wins the batting title for the American League with a
three twenty three batting average. The National League batting title
went to Trey Turner with a three oh four batting average.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
That is awful.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
That is awful for that to be the way that
you win it. But nobody really cares about average anymore.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
And that's all. It's a mouth seems to be.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Coming up next, we're headed to our number two as
we will continue our conversations about the SEC Texas Longhorns
will be taking on Florida this week, and we'll break
it all down right here on the Morning Kickoff on
sports Radio AM thirteen hundred The Zone. Welcome back to
our number two of the Morning Kickoff right here on

(39:46):
a Long Horns Monday edition of the Morning Kickoff on
sports Radio AM thirteen hundred The Zone and hour number one,
we talked about the Dallas Cowboys and the Green Bay
Packers hugging each other at the end the game and
just saying good game, guys, We'll practice tomorrow, see you
next week.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
As they ended in a forty to forty Todd.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
We also talked about the bye week is over and
the Texas Longhorns will now be on the road, going
to Gainesville to take on the Florida Gators two thirty kickoff.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
We've got new AP rankings.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
We will be at third base in Round Rock starting
at eleven thirty this Saturday to do our pregame show
leading you in to the Texas Longhorns kickoff against the
Florida Gators. And we also just talked about the Major
League Baseball playoffs where they don't have the Rangers and

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for the first time since twenty sixteen, the Astros are out. Marcus,
It's been a tough, tough road for you and your
Houston sports.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
How are you feeling right now? Man?

Speaker 6 (41:01):
Thank goodness the Texas won on Sunday. I might have
been on watch. We'd have been looking for you to
come in and where's Marcus? Somebody we need to find
out what's going on with our guy.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
But I do want to go back to the SEC
because the SEC and college football had an unbelievable weekend.
When you start to think in all of these different
moves that have happened, you start to look at Saturday's
games Oregon defeating Penn Steak the top ten matchup, top
six matchup as Oregon beat Penn Stak thirty to twenty

(41:41):
four in double overtime. In the intensity wrapped around that
ball game was something that a lot of folks truly
could not understand because when you look at what Franklin
has been able to do, James Franklin, or can I
say not been able to do? He and his quarterback

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Drew Aller, who we talked about in the Heisman Trophy conversation,
they fall to owen six. Drew Aller himself is owen
six against ap top six ranked opponents after they lost.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
He's owen six against those types of teams.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
This is James Franklin's record against top ten opponents since
he's been at Penn State. He's one in fifteen against
top five. He's four and twenty one against top ten.
He's fifteen and thirty against top twenty five. And he's
four and seventeen against Michigan and Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
I told you that's why I wouldn't pick him, that
he don't win the big game. They'll beat Mississippi Valley State,
I mean, they'll beat Kent you know.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
What I'm saying, don't do that. Don't do that. What happened?
Don't y'all play him this week? Why y'all? They'll beat
They'll beat Sam Houston.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
When they played Texas, when they play Notre Dame, when
they play Ohio State, they lose every what.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
You say, four and what four and twenty five for four?

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Wait, he's he's four and twenty one against top ten opponents.
He's four and seventeen against Michigan and Ohio State alone.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Yeah, alone, right, and then those other seven teams.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
I guarantee you they were top twenty ranked teams that
were on the rise.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Yep, and he lost to him. That's what it is. Yes,
zero faith in him as a coach. Yeah, it's Uh,
it's tough if you're.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
A Penn State fan, especially because the expectations are very,
very high. He's been there for quite some time and
you just don't seem to get over the hunk. But
they did get into the playoffs. They made it to
the next round last year. They had an opportunity to play,
So you can't look at them and be like an

(44:13):
all failure. You're just not winning the Big Ten Because
they have gotten into the playoffs. They got in last
year in they advanced, So you just want to be
at the end of it.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Carson, what's the use of being in the top five,
top six and then you get to the first game
in the playoffs and you lose? Like that's college football
is different than pros.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
I thought they won the first game last year.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
No, I'm talking about in general, like Penn State has
always been that team since Franklin took over that when
you when the moment got big, they peeed down their
leg right. And I'm not gonna apologize for what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
I I don't think that he is a championship coach.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
No, I don't. I mean it's obvious he's not. I mean,
there's a lot of those that are out there. There's
a lot of those. I don't think that he's in
championship coach. There's only a few that win year in
and year out that put themselves in that position. One
of those guys is Kirby Smart. Now, Kirby Smart's got
an Alabama problem. Kirby Smart loses to Alabama under Kaitlin

(45:26):
de Boor, but he doesn't have a great record against
Alabama as a head coach. Right, So if we're gonna
sprinkle some dirt, but look at the numbers that Kirby
had against other teams.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
He just said, Kirby smart.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
When he was asked about his one in seven record
against Alabama, he said, well, what am I against all
the other teams?

Speaker 3 (45:50):
So you don't have to win? He's not. But that's
the point. It's like, you don't have to win your
conference nowadays. All you got to do is get the
Franklin can't say that. Franklin King said on both counts. Yeah,
they're not very good conference. And he can't win against
our teams.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
At any other conference, he can beat all the all
of Division Lord Division one. If you if you twenty
five to seventy five, oh, he gonna knock you off.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
And that's some of that is I think mental.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
I think that he needs to let somebody else call
plays and make the decision making. And if that's the case,
then why happened? Why pay him nine million dollars a year?
So you just finished, who's gonna take over Penn stateum Arrington?

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Just send him over there. He thinks he can do it. No,
you don't bring back Bill O'Brien. Oh my goodness, might not.
You might have to. You might have to. That might
be the only thing that can help them.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
I got a question too, because this weekend we got
a chance to see Tennessee. They beat Mississippi State in
the old time and this was a big time matchup
for the Aguilar kid, the quarterback for Tennessee. He's proven
to be the right move for what Josh Hipel has
been asking of him. But Mississippi State scored thirty four

(47:17):
points in this game, and Mississippi State is on Texas's schedule,
and I'll be interested to see this conversation this afternoon
with Coach Shark that you can hear starting at eleven
am with myself, Craig Way, and Cam Parker from the
stadium as we bring you Coach Sharks weekly presser at
eleven thirty that you can hear on AM thirteen hundred

(47:38):
the Zone. But my question is, is Mississippi State a
team that Texas needs to make sure that they're paying
attention to because you got to go to Starkville.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
You're going to start is not underlooking nobody? Yeah? Yeah,
like Texas. This is Coach Shark.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
We talked about this dude that got contingency. Please he
is If he was a superhero, he would be Batman.
He's got contingency plans for his contingency plans.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
I wus say he would be Batman? Am I lie? Hey?
What is Batman? Would you say? He's is rich and
he's rich in talent, he's rich in culture.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
And the University of Texas team overall is balanced in
every category, every category. The special teams is finally caught up.
And if the offense starts to really click, like we
think that he can't click, these next four, this next
five games would be the deciding factors on whether or

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not Texas is in the top four at the end
of the season. And the people that they have to
beat or Elite Mississippi State Elite, Vanderbilt Elite, Georgia Elite,
Arkansas not so much, A and M elite. That's that's

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four of the six teams would put you in the
top three if you beat them. Where if you're Texas
right now? So all you gotta do is man your schedule. Yeah,
that's all they gotta do.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Yeah, they played, they play some ranked they got some
ranked opponents that is in there that is going to
help their status.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
But the status has to be. It starts this weekend.
It starts. It started last week during practice and preparation.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
I'moking Florida, No, you cannot. I'm not you cannot. I
mean that this is a desperate football team, the Florida Gators.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
And that's the most dangerous team. The one is desperate
they have When it's in the corner with the claws out.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
They are waiting to pounce.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
And that is something that we've all talked about and
we've all looked at. When you go into Gainesville the Swamp.
This is the first time Texas has been there. So
think about it. Think about all those fans in Gainesville
that have been waiting to see a team team like
Texas come into Gainesville. You got the fan base that

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understands we've got to be there to support our team.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
We have to figure out a way.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
If they can't do it on the field, we're gonna
do it off the field and bring enough noise.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Well, we got Titus O'Neil coming on Florida Grad play
at Florida Wrestle for the WWE for many years. He's
coming on the ledger of the locker room Thursday. So
Titus posted on his page. Now I get all of
these Florida people calling me, why can't I come on

(50:39):
the show, Percy Harvin being one of them, the most
notable name.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
We all know who Percy Harvin is. If you're a
football player.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
All y'all Florida fans, I don't want y'all on the show.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
I don't. Titus O'Neill is lucky to be on here.
No faart of people.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Well, it's a big week and there's a lot going
into this, and you sit back and you think about this,
Texas football. Are we at a spot where now it's
the first SEC game? What is Texas ready to do?
Are we going to see the better version of the
Texas Longhorns?

Speaker 3 (51:22):
I think so, I hope.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
So when we come back, we got a special segment.
One of Mark's friends is going to talk to us
about a serious matter right here on the Morning Kickoff
on Sports Radio AM thirteen hundred The Zone. Welcome back
to the Morning Kickoff right here on Sports Radio AM
thirteen hundred The Zone. In the next segment, you'll have
the world's Strongest Man bringing you his world's strongest take.

(51:45):
And then we'll close out the show and send you
to Dan Patrick, but we wanted to have a serious
conversation real quick. As I told you, September is Prostate
cancer Awareness month, but it's also suicide prevention and mental health.
Last night's game, you saw Dak Prescott wearing on his wristband.

(52:11):
He does it every single game. He always has a
wristband that says ask for help. He writes it on
his arm and he continues to share the message because
he lost his brother to a suicide not too long ago,
so he's always been there and been an advocate for that.

(52:31):
So would it be in mental health month and mental
health Awareness Month? We decided that we were going to
have somebody on to have a conversation to kind of
tell you the same thing, why don't you ask for help?

Speaker 2 (52:45):
And Mark, Well, I want to introduce a really good
friend of mine, more like a brother, Todd Gilden aka
g my buddy and also the best friend of the
ball player that passed away last week to do the suicide,
Rudy Johnson.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Rudy was an awesome guy.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Spent a lot of time with him along with g
uh in Cincinnati and uh G you on the line, Yep,
I'm here all right. Awesome, awesome man. We we we
spoke at length recently about you know, Rudy suicide, and
you you told me that there was that he there

(53:30):
were signs like four years ago that you talked to him,
and like, did he ever did Rudy ever talk to
you about his issues, not in.

Speaker 8 (53:42):
Detail about issues, just the overall stresses of life. So
you know a lot of the times that we spent
together was just kind of like really a brotherhood, just
giving him a little bit more of what to do
and what not to do or or what about this situation.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
He was a grown man and he can make his
own decisions on things.

Speaker 8 (54:02):
But my job as a brother to whomever I friend
with is to make sure that they can speak to people,
they can talk freely, and they can feel hurd and
trusted and with that value thing.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
It's so difficult.

Speaker 8 (54:18):
So Mark, as you know, I have four older brothers,
so I've been able to speak freely all my life,
and a lot of men do not get that opportunity.
So I took it upon myself. Just during his time
frame here in Cincinnati, I was probably with him six
to seven days a week for about eight years, and

(54:41):
you know, trips and hanging out and you know, fundraisers
and whatnot, dinners.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
But I just gave him just a solid foundation about things.

Speaker 8 (54:51):
Now, some of those signs that we talked about, he
isolated itself a little bit.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
Some of the conversations started to not be as lengthy.

Speaker 8 (55:02):
You know, when you start getting the evasion and conversation
everything is good, man, I'm doing this, I'm doing that
ex certain zin and so not literally being in Miami
uh anymore, not having.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
The frequency that I had to him. I can see
some differences in there, but nothing that just stood out. Major.
It's hard.

Speaker 8 (55:22):
It's hard if you're not there to say, man, what's up.
Let's go to dinner and now I'm going to interview
you like you know, but we we do that amongst
each other. Mark, you do that to me, you know
when when we all get around each other, we have
those type of conversations and we really look at it
that way. And it's about holding one another accountable. And

(55:45):
a lot of my friends hold me accountable. My family,
So anybody that I associate with, I hold them accountable
about everything I talked to them. How's how's the kids doing,
how's the wife's doing, how's what's going on with work man,
what's going on with the Lympics, what's going on with wrestling.
Let's go on with the podcast. We go through it,
so we know because a lot of times, just a

(56:08):
sounding board or somebody you can trust gives you just
another another moment, another another few hours or a few days.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Todd, I wanted to ask you this because obviously we
spend a lot of time around our brothers and our sisters,
and we understand every day is not gonna be a
perfect day. We understand the struggles that people go through,
but we don't know the extent of the struggles. Because
you can wake up this morning, didn't sleep good, things

(56:40):
are going on in your mind and you're just like,
all right, I'm gonna gonna go deal with it. But
then there's a deeper rooted situation. And I'm not asking
you how you pull that out of somebody, But if
you spend enough time with them, you'll start to see,
as you said, some of the changes in the conversation.

Speaker 8 (56:58):
Correct, Correct, you know, I'm inside of it, and I'm
inside of the leadership. So I look at the supply chain,
the project, the program management way of thinking. So strategically,
first off. I try to make myself available. I try
to make sure that the environment is safe and there's

(57:19):
confidentiality in there. So that's a lot of what keeps
people from speaking freedom this day and age. Whether I
loved you, man, how you doing?

Speaker 3 (57:28):
What's going on? Talk to me?

Speaker 8 (57:31):
It is taking a back seat because it's so much
of a struggling things. So I push beyond that and
make them feel okay about it. You know, I took
a lot of pressure, a lot of heat. You know, hey,
he's running after athletes and entertainers. He knows a lot
of people. No, man, I'm the man.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
I'm cool.

Speaker 8 (57:53):
I'm cool on where I'm at. So you know, those
guys feel comfortable in that space. So we're able to
just talk as brothers.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
Without my hand is out. I need this, I'm on that.
I'm like, nah, man, how you really feeling?

Speaker 4 (58:06):
You know?

Speaker 3 (58:07):
And by doing that, I was able to be available.

Speaker 8 (58:10):
So back from say Cincinnati perspective, I guess I had
a room at the at the mansion, at the house,
and I would.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
I work remote so I would be available.

Speaker 8 (58:22):
So three in the morning, I might get a knock
on my door at his house and we ended up
talking for three or four hours, drinking his hand, things
on his mind.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
But I let him.

Speaker 8 (58:32):
You know, he was able to go about all my baby,
mom my parents, my homeboys, football, just you name it.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
He was able to kind of get in there and
dig into it.

Speaker 8 (58:42):
And so I made sure that again, like I said,
I was, I was totally I was totally available for that.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
And that's what's that's what's ever so important to everything.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
When was the last time that that that you spoke
to Rudy? We we talked about it briefly, but I
wanted to let the audience know the conversation.

Speaker 8 (59:04):
We had this my camera off on Yeah you're you're
still good? Okay, about about a month ago, give a take.
And it wasn't as it wasn't as Rudy Jay as normally.
So again, like like I mentioned, the whole point of
being able to talk freely and for the skinning amounts

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of time.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Once that starts to kind of get in the way,
the language changes.

Speaker 8 (59:34):
Man, what you're doing. Man, you know I'm gonna make
this run and make that run. The conversation comes a
little shorter. It's not anything back at the person, it's
just they're distracted and you're not there. The physical, the
physical face to face is so important and and like

(59:55):
Mark Lowe's and everybody else, we try to do a
face to face when we can, but outside of that,
we definitely pick up the fall. You know, this generation
now is texting and text whatever. I kind of like
to hear person's voice. You can, you can pick up
things when you ask her questions, how they hesitate, how
they respond bad, you know where they really at. And
so I make sure that I stay on with that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Wow, that's awesome and it fits right into that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Let's talk about it, right, you know, So we wanted
to talk about it, but I wanted to let you
get that off your chest as well as uh inform
the people that listen to our show that you know,
with this month being what it is, let's talk about it, guys, like,
do not internalize it and hold it in. Uh gee,

(01:00:45):
thank you man for coming on with us always. But
you know you're you're always your brother to me and
I appreciate the the big the big brotherness of our relationship.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
That's what we do, Mark Man.

Speaker 8 (01:01:01):
If you guys black Man and black Man World the world,
I love you all, Man, and Mark knows it and Marcus.
You know now, if you guys ever need to reach
out to me, I'm I'm a fantastic communicator. I support people.
I actually stand for what they stand for, and I
challenge them against what doesn't work and it helps to

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bring out greatness. And I'll leave with this, I should
always say this to Rudy doing his playing years and whatnot.
What are you gonna do when the cheering stops? I
was taught that as an early age by Rick Gates
out of Dayton, Ohio being a star athlete and all
this growing up. He always said, what are you gonna

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do when the chairing stops? No one says your name?

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Who are you? And so I was.

Speaker 8 (01:01:51):
I was proud of Rudie of where he pushed after football,
because I knew that was gonna be a challenge. Who
do you exist out of playing not playing football for
twenty something years of your life? How do you develop
as a father, as a man, as a businessman? Is
it all about hanging hours, about building structures, about building
legacy and so the little things I try to just

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instill with him when I had the floor with him,
uninhibited by anybody, just him and I for.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Hours upon hours and so that's that's what I did.

Speaker 8 (01:02:24):
So when I saw those great moments, I was hacky,
but didn't didn't see me the latter part of the darkness,
because you know, every everybody has a troubling spot and
they can reach out to folks.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Man, We appreciate you for taking the time and sharing
that story. As always, I mean, a friend of Marx
is a friend of mine. So continues success and uh,
I'm sure we'll talk to you again at another time.
Appreciate you all right, take care of fellows. There he
is Todd Golden uh deep deep. Coming up next, we're

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gonna have our guy Mark Henry give us his world
strong take right here on the morning kickoff on sports
Radio AM thirteen hundred The Zone.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
I want to give a special shout out to all
the people who came in from me, the alumni from
Thomas in High School and that you choses also the
same people who came after me.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
So with that being said, I just want to say.

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
Dream being, shoot for the stars, say focus, never give up,
and one more day to all the kids in Chesterville County.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
I'll be watching for the next start to be born.
You heard the beat drops, so you know what that means.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
W W Hall of Famer and World's Strongest Man, Dan
Mark Henry brings you his World's Strongest take.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Take it away, big fella. All right, what's up man?
You know what time it is?

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
What Thomas's time for the World's Strongest take by the
World's Strongest Man.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
My guys back then, and they didn't know me. Now
I'm hot. They all on me. Guys.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
We got B sides today, we got B sides. I
was gonna my whole take was going to be about
the way that a dominant wide receiver affects the offense
of the Kansas City Chiefs. You add Exavier Worthy, you
have to play a safety over the top. It makes

(01:04:28):
Patrick Mahomes and the Andy Reid system that much better.
It's really designed to hit underneath from the wide receiver
on the strong side.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Taking away the deep help just what it is. It
makes Kelsey better. It makes throwing the running.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Back into the flats on the side that the wide
receiver left from better, and Patrick Mahomes gets to scramble
up the middle and to the opposite side of the field.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
It just makes them a better team. I'm not gonna
do that today. What I'm gonna do is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
I'm gonna talk about my frustration from last night. I'm
gonna talk about the tying situation in professional football.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
There should not be.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
And yes, the Players Association is gonna be mad at me.
They're gonna say, well, we don't.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Want our athletes to play extra minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
This is the pros. This is not high school, it's
not college. It's professional football. People's pay a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
They sacrifice months of pay so they can go and
spend that time at Cowboys Stadium, or at the Texans stadium,
or whoever you're a fan of.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
They sacrifice that money. Honey, I want to go to
this game.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
It's gonna cost us fifteen hundred two thousand dollars for
the weekend. All right, well, we just got a sacrifice.
You think that they wanted to see a tie. Think
about all those people that was in that stadium, one
hundred thousand strong.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
I guarantee you out of that one hundred thousand, fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Thousand of those people's sacrifice to sit in that stadium
and watch that game, and that money will never come
back to them because they don't get.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
A win or loss. I will take a win or
a loss, not paying for a tie. It's not fair.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
The Players Association and the NFL have to get together
and have to say, guys, we can't never have a
situation like this happen again.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Hard to what say you? Well, I've said that from
the very beginning. There's not a reason on earth that
an NFL game should end in a tie. And as
far as the other part about them not wanting people
to play extra time, I disagree with that. They're trying
to add an extra game, right, They trying to add

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an extra game.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
So I don't I don't believe in that philosophy at all.
Right now.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
I just think that it's once again the NFL not
covering itself. Marcus brought up a great point during our
break about how before it was just whoever scored first
won the game sudden death.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
It was that, and I believe it with terms sudden death. Oh,
that's cruel, that's hateful. We shouldn't do that, that's I would.
I would go further.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
After every team has the ball, it's whoever scores after that.
There you go, whether I think whether it's a field goal,
whether it's a touchdown, whatever point, I mean, it is
it is cruel. Now to your point, I liked what
you said. I mean I would much rather win or
lose than have to sit there and be a tie.

(01:07:58):
Because now you bring in a whole different factor, like
that game right there is gonna cost one of those teams. Yeah,
it's gonna be a half, it's gonna be a seating,
it's going to be a playoff birth, it is going
to cost a team. And that right there factors in two.
Let me talk to my cousin the over under on

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the win loss record. So Vegas is looking at this
because it goes back to that. At some point, Vegas
is looking at this as boom, we might be in
a good spot because that game, that's where the half is,
right seven and a half over under seven and a half,
that becomes that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
Half for you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
So now you're sitting at six wins and you're not
getting to that eighth, that seventh win, that eighth win.
Excuse me, you're sitting at seven wins, but you're sitting
there because you got that tie. Vegas wins or you win,
depending on how it worked.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
However, you took that back extra element exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
So, because it does come back to it as much
as we for entertainment purposes. There's a reason why those
buildings are as big as they are out there. There's
a reason why Vegas always finds a way to win something.
You're gonna give it up somehow, some way. I ain't
even thinking about it like that. So there are some
things that are going on that are playing another part.

(01:09:24):
But there should not be a tied football game in
the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Thank you for agreeing with me. It's been a while,
it's been a wild man. This is so refreshing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
We're gonna close out the show and send you to
Dan Patrick.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
Did you get weird?

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
You did?

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Real well, real, real well?

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
We got we got Monday night football doubleheader and oh yeah,
Texas Baseball played this weekend. I got a chance to
go out there, Texas fans, Texas Tech fans. Job well done.
Right here on the morning kickoff on sports Radio Am
thirteen hundred The Zone. If you missed any part of
the show, all you got to do is get over.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
To the podcast page. Marcus will have that up for
you wherever you get.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Your podcast, but of course it should be on the
allways free iHeartRadio app. Make sure you tune it in
this afternoon, well this morning, later this morning's starting at
eleven am and breaking it all down, talking all things
Texas As. Myself, Craig Way, and Cam Parker will be

(01:10:28):
at the stadium leading you up to the press conference
with Coach Sark. Eleven am is when we will start.
Eleven thirty is when Coach Sark will take the microphone
and previewing the Florida Gator matchup. We will talk a
lot about all of that because let me just explain

(01:10:49):
something to you when we get back into action. This
is what it's all about. The whole conversation this week
will be about Texas football being back in the SEC.
It's a wide open race. You start to look at
a lot of these teams and the expectations and the
excitement of it all. We've been waiting on this, We've

(01:11:10):
been waiting for SEC play. It's the first SEC game
for the Texas Longhorns this season, and they are prepared.
The big question for me is going to be about
DJ Lagway. The conversation about him, how is he going
to play? Is he the week off the bye week
for him? Did that make him feel better? Was it

(01:11:32):
enough time for Arch coming off of that great performance
against Sam Houston. Is his confidence where it needs to
be going into this what's the running back room going
to look like?

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
Is it going to be CJ. Baxter and Trey Wisner
ready to go? Our guy?

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Eric Henry of Horns two four seven wrote an article
last week about the travel Scout squad. How many players
are going to be able to go on the run.
Where's the balance going to be in that? So there's
a lot that is going to be broken down in
those conversations. Another conversation that needs to be had is
I wanted to talk about Texas baseball. They had the

(01:12:14):
Texas Texas A and M the University of Texas versus
Texas Tech at the Dell Diamond this weekend. They played
twelve innings. Texas ends up winning the ball game, but
the story was both teams had buys this past weekend.
Texas Tech had to buy and of course Texas had
to buy. It was a packed house. I think there

(01:12:37):
might have been six thousand to seven thousand people in
attendance for that matchup on Saturday, an exhibition game that
was played twelve innings and you got a chance to
see some of the newer transfers you got to see
some pitching.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
I thought it was outstanding. I thought the players looked good.
I thought that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Being able the ability to throw strikes as something that
I know it's early because we're not even in the
season yet, but you got to be able to throw strikes,
and that is something that I think both teams are
gonna be working on this offseason. There's some young guys
that got a chance to go out there and play,
got a chance to see Gibbons, he hit the snot

(01:13:19):
out of the baseball squared up, a couple of baseballs,
got to play in front of a bunch of fans
that he was excited about.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
It was a good look and a great turnout.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
So it's it's not baseball season, but you would have
thought it was baseball season by the attendance of everyone
that was there.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
So it was really really cool to see that. So
kudos from making that happen like baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
That you saw that look rusty that you're like, ah,
they'll be better than that when the season starts.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Yeah, there's always gonna be that chasing pitches out of
the zone, and as I said, you got the ability
to throw strikes, running the bases everybody didn't look like
they were in full speed yet, you know, stretching out
some things that you want to see. Some guys run,
I said, I still with a bunch of scouts. So
we had a lot of conversations during the game. But

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it was good to see it. It was good to
see it. So Coach Slash should be happy with the
performance because obviously Texas won, but they hit the ball well,
they swung it well, they did some things that you
expected to see from a Texas baseball team. I want
to get into the NFL because the NFL will continue
those conversations tomorrow as well as we'll talk to Mark Vandermere,

(01:14:38):
the voice of the Houston Texans, and we are your
home of the Houston Texans right here on Sports Radio
A thirteen hundred the Zone. We'll talk to him tomorrow,
but I wanted to get into Monday Night football. Tonight,
the New York Jets traveled to Miami and the Cincinnati
Bengals will travel to Denver.

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
Kick off for the first game.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Miami and New York will be at six fifteen, and
Cincinnati and Denver will be at seven fifteen. All of
these teams are in a peculiar spot, especially the New
York Jets. They're oh in three, the Dolphins oh and three.
There is a lot that is happening during this time

(01:15:20):
right now. And wait a minute, just got an email.
Let me let me let me address this with you
guys right now. Actual press conference will start today at
eleven am, eleven AM with Coach Sark. It will happen
at eleven am, so make sure you tuned in. At

(01:15:42):
eleven you're gonna hear Craig Way and myself. But now
you will hear Coach Sark at eleven am, so make
sure that you're tuned in for that. But as I
was saying with the NFL, you look at the Jets
and the Dolphins, two teams that are are in a bad,
bad spot. What is Miami going to do if they

(01:16:04):
don't win this game tonight? Is this the last that
we see of Mike McDaniel, Because you can't tell me
you're excited about this if you're gonna be at zero
to four straight Jimmy Hoffer, Yeah, but if you look
at the Jets, you can't do anything because you just
got a brand new coach.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
Well, well, the Jets can't do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
I mean, we get that quarterback healthy and back, and
then they start back to roll. I think, but you
get if I'm Miami. Two courses of action. One, Mike,
tell your story walking fire, And the next course of

(01:16:48):
action is I get Quinn. You're some reps oo for
my you know what?

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
Ready? They ready for Quinn? They call it for Quinn already.
What's the signal to the bullpening hard?

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Well, their backup guy, their backup quarterback is Zach Wilson.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Though, Zach Wilson, stop, you might as well put leave
two out there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
I mean, that's their backup. That is their backup. So
it's gonna a lot for Quinn yours to get on
to the floor. So we'll see how that plays out.
But for real, though, Tyreek Hill, is this where this
is Tyreek's last game? That's the third thing, is that
gonna be gonna trade him somebody, you know who needs

(01:17:34):
a wide receiver?

Speaker 4 (01:17:35):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
Who the Giants?

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
The Giants they got money, Yeah, they got money.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
To spend, and Jenny got draft picked and Jackson dark
looked apart. Maybe or maybe that's the trade for Russell Wilson.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
Maybe he goes to Miami and then I couldn't even
finish the same. You can get Russell Wilson for a
back of skilled. I could do some golf stoppers. Well,
they might need those golf stoppers. There's a couple of
places that will definitely need them.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Monday is in the books. Make sure time adjustment. Coach
Sharks press conference starts at eleven am today right here
on your home for Texas Football Sports Radio AM thirteen
hundred the Zone. We will be better tomorrow. For Mark Henry,
for Marcus, I'm Harball harsh and just remember this. Don't
believe everything you see, because even salt looks like sugar.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
Peace,