September 15, 2025 • 39 mins
Listen to The Next-Gen Report live! Sundays at 7:00 p.m. on AM950, KPRC.
This episode in its entirety is dedicated to the life and ministry of Charlie Kirk, who was killed by an assassin on September 10th, 2025, at Utah Valley University.
Kirk was a conservative influencer and activist who dedicated his life to pushing young Americans toward the conservative message and Christianity.
For the latest news, follow me on Instagram and X:
@the.ethanbuchanan
@_ethanbuchanan
Watch this episode of The Next-Gen Report on YouTube!
https://youtu.be/jDPMwmVqJ-E
This episode in its entirety is dedicated to the life and ministry of Charlie Kirk, who was killed by an assassin on September 10th, 2025, at Utah Valley University.
Kirk was a conservative influencer and activist who dedicated his life to pushing young Americans toward the conservative message and Christianity.
For the latest news, follow me on Instagram and X:
@the.ethanbuchanan
@_ethanbuchanan
Watch this episode of The Next-Gen Report on YouTube!
https://youtu.be/jDPMwmVqJ-E
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
From the heart of the Space City to the heart
of gen Z. Welcome to Next Gen Conversation, not Dad's
Talk Radio. Ethan talks to you about the issues and
events the men are to our generation.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
This is the Next Gen Report, which Ethan vukm is.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
We're active in about fifteen campuses and we're growing very,
very quickly. And keep in mind, this is not just
a flash and the Pan movement. We're going to become
an institution to give them the power and the confidence
to stand.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Up and let their voice be heard.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I started this organization when I was eighteen years old.
I decided not to go to college. I didn't get
in my dream school, which was the UNIX six Military
Academy at West Point. I had this idea to galvanize
and motivate the future youth of this country around a
core set of ideas, not just political parties or politicians.
And the ideas are really America's the greatest country in
the history of the world. Constitution is the great political
document ever written in free enterprise, the most sure way
(01:02):
to lift people out of poverty and create prosperity for all.
Those are the three big ideas, and I think that's
something that can win. We as Christians are called to
go into the public arena to correct error with truth.
So I go to college campuses and there's a lot
(01:24):
of error. We're all sinners, we are all living error.
I'm far more interested in what God wants of me
than what I want from God.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I have to say this without getting emotional, but I'm
very proud of my husband, and I know many of
you are too. You have worked so hard, and I
know a lot of you have seen. Obviously his video
is on TikTok and all the stuff he does on campus,
but no one gets to see him from my angle
(01:52):
except for myself and our children fall up with us
and the sacrifices that he made this year.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
He's amazing. I'm very blessed, and.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I would not have been able to do any of
it without Erica. And that's the real truth.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
You are here as a grassroots response to the top
down revolution happening in this country. I want our Turning
Point USA students to receive around of applause. These are
the freedom fighters of America.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
And the media said the Turning Point could never run
a ground game.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
They weren't experienced. They didn't know, Charlie Ray.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
This is the greatest generational realignment since Woodstock. This generation
is the most conservative generation that we have seen and
well over fifty years, and the numbers show it. What
young people especially are screaming at is they say, give
me a structure that I can live my life by,
(02:59):
and especially with young men, more challenging of them, more
saying you know what, honestly, I'm not going to talk
down to you. Stop being a boy and become a man.
You want to learn what that means. Become to church,
and I'll tell you what it means to become a man,
because we have the greatest story ever told. What can
I do to save the country? You answer that question
every single day because you are doing the work to
(03:20):
save this beautiful republic. You are doing something that is
bigger than you.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
If everything completely goes away, How do you want to
be remembered.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
To be I want to be remembered for courage, for
my faith. That would be the most important thing.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
The most important thing is my faith in my life.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Hey, y'all, welcome to the Next Gen Report.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Obviously, I want to start off by saying this episode
of the show is dedicated to Charlie Kirk. I've seen
a lot of folks on the right, a lot of hosts,
a lot of commentators, podcasters, the works, all taking time
to tell their personal stories about how good of a
(04:24):
friend Charlie was to them or how much they love
Charlie Kirk. And you know you've seen it all a
thousand times already. I don't have any of those stories.
I never had the privilege of meeting Charlie Kirk. I'm
just one of the thousands, hundreds of thousands of gen
Z members of gen Z that were inspired by Charlie Kirk.
(04:50):
Charlie was a guy who looked at my generation really
and said, obviously, you guys want something better than what
has been passed down to you from the last two
or three generations. And I think I can give that
to you. I think I can motivate you to go
(05:11):
out and get that for yourselves. And that's what he
dedicated himself to. He dedicated himself to sharing a conservative
message with young people, sharing the gospel with young people,
going out and changing hearts and minds in a way
that benefited the United States of America and my generation
and me personally.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I mean, how many people my age.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Are younger or even older, grew up watching Charlie Kirk videos.
Even if it was just passively, Even if you're not
a super political person, you just kind of saw Charlie
Kirk owning the Libs and thought it was funny. Even
if you just scrolled past it and laughed at it
a little bit, chances are you were able to glean something.
(05:53):
One of my biggest influences is Charlie Kirk. For that reason,
he made being political as a younger per this day
and age attainable to a lot of people, including myself.
And it's hard to measure in the moment the impact
of that, but I think we've started to see it
over the last several days. If you somehow missed it,
(06:18):
Charlie was assassinated on Wednesday, and it was a political assassination.
We know then, we'll dig into that as we go
through this episode. But even by his death, he's having
an unbelievable effect on both the conservative movement and young people.
(06:44):
The folks my age who maybe weren't super political but
liked Charlie's content, Now they're waking up. If you thought
he was influential before, if you thought he got young
people's attention before. If you think he'd got his message
to young people before, what we've seen in the aftermath
(07:06):
of his murder is drastically more significant. And that's not
to demean the work that he did when he was
with us. I think, rather than that, it actually speaks
to how effective his work was, because you only see
(07:27):
this shift when someone truly mattered, and I think Charlie
Kirk truly mattered. We're going to be digging into Kirk's
life and legacy and his assassination and the after effects
of it to this evening on the Next Gen Report,
so stay tuned. We've got a lot more coming up.
Thank you Turning Point USA for that tribute to Charlie Kirk.
We'll be back in just a second after this ad
break to dig into his legacy.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
We'll we are back, all righty, Welcome back to the
(08:21):
Next General Report. I am Ethan Buchanan. Thank you for
joining me. This episode is of course dedicated to the
late great Charlie Kirk, who was assassinated on Wednesday. I
don't want to dwell on the death of Charlie Kirk.
(08:41):
It was horrific. I saw it most people in this
country did. The video was everywhere. It was unavoidable, it
was violent, it was shocking. I consider myself to have
a pretty strong stomach. I, like most people my age,
grew up on the Internet. I've spent a lot of
(09:01):
time on the Internet. I'm twenty two years old. About
half of my life I've had pretty much open access
to the Internet. My parents did their best, but I
was sneakier than they were, so, you know, to put
it mildly, Seeing Charlie's murder was not the first time
I had seen someone die online, but it hit me
(09:23):
quite a bit harder than any other death I'd ever seen.
I was at work when it happened. I almost threw
up at my desk. I don't want to dwell on
it if you don't know what happened. Charlie Kirk was
speaking at one of his college ask me anything, Proved
me wrong events.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
This is what he was known for.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
This is where many folks, including myself, first discovered Charlie
Kirk doing these events, sitting down at a college campus
with an open mic and saying, hey, let's discuss these
hot button issues. Let's even disagree, but let's have a
conversation like humans about these hot button issues, and a
(10:04):
sniper assassinated him in the middle of that event, actually
towards the beginning. It was very shocking. It was horrifying.
I've seen the video multiple times. You probably have to
if you're on X I don't encourage you to look
for it. Normally, with a video like this, I would
say it's important to go watch it. It's important to
(10:25):
know what is happening. It's important to know what is
being done to people.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
By the left.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
The best case of this is IRENA's The Rootskune, where
I played as much of that video on the YouTube
as I could play without YouTube actually flagging it, and
I think they did anyway, because it hasn't gone a
lot of traction.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
But that's fine.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
I say it's important to watch a video like that
because it's important to know what's at stake.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
This isn't hypotheticals. This is real life.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
We're dealing with real dangers, real violent people who are
using real violence against real other people. But I'm not
going to play the video of Charlie Kirks murder. It
hits me too hard, It hits most Americans too hard,
and I think it's gotten enough airtime already, I'm not
going to do it. I'm not going to play any
(11:20):
videos from that event. Instead, in this segment, I'm gonna
talk about what Charlie Kirk spent his last few days
alive talking about, particularly with Irena z Ruskap. I mentioned
her just a minute ago. Charlie Kirk talked to her
(11:41):
about her just as much as I have in the
last few days, and he specifically called out the left
on this. So first, I'm gonna play you this clip
of WHOOPI Goldberg telling you to stop politicizing this, and
then I'm gonna play you a clip of Charlie Kirk
talking about why it is important to politicize this.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So first, well, here's Whoopy Goldberg.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
I you know, look, oh, young woman is dead. Let's
let's take that into my into consideration. And yes, a
man who should have been behind bars was loose and out.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, well he's listen. He was a schizophrenic man.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
His mother begged them to take him and put him away.
So stop politicizing this. This is not political. This has
to do with how we take care of our sick
Americans when they are in need.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
All right, that clip courtesy of the Media Research Center.
So this is political. Stop politicizing this, No, I won't.
Whoopy Goldberg is correct to point out that the killer
of Arena Zeruska, his mother did ask the court to
(13:05):
keep him in prison because she knew that he was
a threat to himself and others. So why didn't they
That's a policy question. Policy politics. It is important to
understand who's making these poor decisions and how they got
into office.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
That's politics.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Charlie Kirk, in his final days, correctly pointed out that
if we don't address these issues, it will happen again.
If we want things to change, it's one hundred percent
necessary to politicize the senseless murder of Irena Zerutzska because
it was politics that allowed a savage monster with fourteen
priors to be free on the streets to kill her.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
He's right, you may not like it, but it's true,
all right. It is here.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
He is explaining this on his show on his podcast
Take a Listen. On August twenty second, Arena Zarutsko was
stabbed to death on the rail system in Charlotte, North
Carolina by a savage career criminal.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Her life story, I think will be told both in the
United States and Ukraine for years to come. What do
you think the importance of this story is, most fundamentally,
this was one of the coldest, most senseless murders I've
ever seen. She had no interaction with this guy whatsoever.
She was sitting mine her own business, and he just
takes on a knife and just decides to stab her.
I do say this with some form of just heaviness.
(14:31):
I don't like politicizing situations like this, but it just
necessitates it because there are so many dynamics at play here.
Based on the information evidence we have, the attacker did
say I got that white girl. The attacker racialized it
in his own telling of this situation. And we all
(14:51):
know this. Any honest observer of your program knows this,
including Van Jones, even knows this deep down, which is that,
of course, if a random white person on a sub
took out a knife and stabbed a black girl senselessly
to death, there would be massive media coverage, there would
be policy changes, there'd be people having to apologize for this.
(15:11):
We saw this in George Floyd. And yet, for whatever reason,
the situation has not garnered even a fraction of that
kind of outrage or backlash.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
Now, this all hits a whole lot different knowing that
Charlie Kirk, just a few days after saying all of
this was himself the victim of a political murder.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
It's shocking. It's difficult to cope with because, in.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Hindsight, hearing a lot of what Charlie Kirk said throughout
his career, even recently, it's almost prophetic. It is a
lot of the things he said right there applied to
his own murder. It it's something to think about, it's
(15:58):
something to process.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
But again, I don't want to dwell too much on
his death.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
I want to take a look at what he said
there in the context that he said it. He's right,
the Left, for all intention purposes, has ignored the death
of Arena's Routskope as.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Best as they can.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
We forced them to bring it up by making it
a national issue, but they would have ignored it if
they could.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
He addressed that why is that? Why is it that George.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Floyd, a career criminal, can overdose on drugs and a
man is now spending the rest of his life in
prison for that. And then we had national outrage, we
had riots, We heard businesses burned to the ground.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
How do we get to that point?
Speaker 6 (16:48):
But a Ukrainian refugee who were supposed to all care about, right,
that's the line from the left. They won't shut up
about Ukraine except when a Ukrainian refugee is murdered in
the United States of America by him black man who
is let out of prison thanks to what appears to
be soft on crime policies. That's worth talking about. That
(17:10):
is politics. You can say, oh, we don't want to
politicize this. Great, Do you have a better idea of
how to stop this. We have to change the policy somewhere.
We have to change the political discourse somewhere. That's the
only way to stop these murders from happening. The left
(17:33):
doesn't want to talk about that. The left wants you
to ignore obviously political issues when they don't help the left.
The same is true of Charlie's murder as it was
of Irena zaruskis all right, we got a lot more
coming up.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Charlie Kirk is a.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Legend, and it will take a lot more than one
show to really do him justice. But one episode is
all I have right now, So stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
All right.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
So I want to devote this the longest segment of
tonight's show to Charlie's message, and that's something that I
don't want to see lost in the aftermath. There's a
lot that we can glean from Charlie's murder, from Charlie's death,
(18:43):
I am terrified that we will wind up losing that
or prioritizing that over what Charlie lived for. I think
that's more important. The aftermath of Charlie Kirk's death is
very important, don't get me wrong. Shift, the political shift,
the social shift that we have seen following the murder
(19:06):
of Charlie Kirk, the martyrdom of Charlie Kirk, maybe no
pun intended the greatest turning point in modern American history.
But I don't want us to lose the forest for
the trees or what have you. I don't want us
to forget what Charlie Kirk lived for.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
And Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Had a very important political and faith message that inspired
literally a generation, an entire generation, from people you know
five or six years older than me to people five
or six years younger than me. And for a point
of reference, I'm twenty two years old and I've been
involved in politics and media since I was maybe fourteenish
(19:50):
because largely of Charlie Kirk. And I'm not the only one.
There are others.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
So what was he.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Actually fighting for? Why was Charlie Kirk killed? It was
because he was a powerful warrior and a powerful mouthpiece
for both the conservative.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Right and the Christian faith.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
So I want to talk first about the intersection of
those two things. Christendom and conservative politics meet right where
Charlie Kirk was, and his political message was we need
to have a society that incentivizes and makes it possible
for people to have large families, raise them in the
(20:37):
Christian tradition, and keep them safe and provided for. That
I think was the essence of Charlie Kirk's political message,
and his faith message was, Hey, go to church, seek Christ,
have a large family, because that's what the Bible calls
you to do. This clip of Charlie with Laura Ingram.
This is on September eighth, so just a few days
(20:58):
before he died. Here he is kind of talking about
all that. I think this is a very important clip.
Take a listen what is going on with women and
not wanting to prioritize family.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
This is a pattern that I've seen time and time
in these college campuses where young men are ordering their
life correctly. They want to first and foremost have children,
get married, and then have a nice job or to
be able to travel. If you look deeper into this data,
it's completely consistent with other data we've seen in the last
couple of years. Young women they don't value having children,
(21:34):
and this is one of the reasons why we are
seeing a fertility collapse in the West. We're seeing less
and less young people get married. We're seeing more and
more people go into their thirties to have children. Now,
mind you, this is starting to change. The last eighteen
months especially, we are seeing a little bit of a
turning of the corner, if you will, as the country
is starting to get more into traditionalism and young people
are starting to go back to church. But if you
(21:55):
play out the liberal worldview, the Kamala Harris worldview, to
its first possible logical point, you have a country with
literally no future. When you play out the logical endpoint
of President Trump's agenda of where young men voted for him,
you have one of lots of children increasing communities, and
you also have a need done for mass immigration, and
(22:16):
this all kind of ties together Trump voters. Young men,
they want family, children in legacy, young women who voted
for Kamala Harris, they want careerism, consumerism, and lowliness. That
is a dramatic divide that is going to play out
in our politics for the years to come.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Now, I can tell you with all honesty, I am
one of the young men that heard Charlie Kirk throughout
my kind of high school years preach that message, and
it resonated with me. I remember when I was as
young as you know, fourteen or fifteen, I knew that
I wanted to be married by twenty and have a
child by twenty twenty one or but by the time
(22:56):
I was twenty one. Now I just got married this year.
I'm twenty two, so I'm close, but I kind of
miss it it. Sorry, Charlie. I did my best. But
this is a biblical message, and it is a good message.
I think what God says in Genesis when he looks
(23:20):
down at Adam and says it is not.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Good for men to be alone. That's true.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
It's not good for men to be alone, and it's
not good for women to be alone either.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Men and women.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
If you believe the biblical narrative, which I do, men
and women were both created by God with a specific purpose,
and they were created for each other. They need each other,
they do. That was a big part of Charlie Kirk's message.
It resonated deeply with me. That's one of the reasons
that I think I got married at twenty twenty, at
(23:54):
twenty two years old, in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I keep getting the years and how old I was
mixed up.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
But he got married in twenty twenty five at the
age of twenty two, and Charlie Kirk is one of
the reasons for that, because I heard him constantly say, Hey,
this is what you need to do.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
This is what scripture calls you to do.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
And it's true Genesis one Versus twenty twenty eight, and
God blessed them, and God said to them, be fruitful, multiplying,
fill the earth and subdue it. Have dominion over the
fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens,
and over every living thing that moves on the earth.
That was a big part of Charlie's message, and I
(24:34):
think that's important. That's more of his face based message.
His political message was I think quite a bit similar
or simpler. His political message was one, let's create a
society that facilitates and encourages that. But more importantly, I
think the ultimate kind of Charlie kirkism was let's create
(24:58):
a society where people have a conversation. Here he is
at one of these college events that he became so
well known for and eventually gave his life at, talking
about why he was actually there, and he says in
this video, I'm here to have conversations with people I
disagree with. Because when we can't get to a point
(25:19):
where we have these difficult conversations with people we disagree with,
that's when violence happens. This clip residates even more now
that he's been murdered for having these conversations. Take a
lism people.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I go around universities and have challenging conversations, and because
that's what is so important to our country is to
find our disagreements respectfully, because when people stop talking, that's
when violence happens. I've never seen someone well, it's a
growing trend because people like me are facing violence assaults
(25:53):
the left, lady, and yes, the campus Antifa. I've been
stormed out of restaurants. I've been assaulted publicly multiple death
right so what's your There's more people that agree with
me than some people would pop actually believe, and they
come out of the woodwork when I do stuff like this.
We record all of it so that we put on
the internet so people can see these ideas collide.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
When people stop talking, that's.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
When you get violence. That's when civil war happens because
you start to think the other side is so evil
and they lose their humanity.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
That to me is probably one of if not no,
I'll say one of the most important part of Charlie
Kirk's legacy is his message on faith, But in a
close second or third easily in the top five is
the fact that Charlie Kirk understood the importance of political discourse,
(26:47):
and he also demonstrated the fact that it's actually easier
to have than you might think. You don't have to
agree with the opposition, you don't even have to like
the opposition, but you do need to have conversations with them.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
You do.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
I think just personally, I've tried and failed to emulate
that I'm the type of person and this is something
I'm working on where I get very upset with someone
when I think I've made a good point and I
can tell that they're intentionally refusing to acknowledge it or
even think about it.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I'm working on it. This is something that Charlie Kirk
was really an inspiration to me on was he was.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
He confronted people, but he was not confrontational. I confront
people all the time. I'm confrontational about it. Charlie Kirk
is a better man than I. But he understood the
fact that listen, when we can't disagree and say, hey, listen,
I don't agree with you, you don't agree with me,
(27:52):
but we can have a conversation. We see each other
as people and we can go to the ballot box
and made the best man win. Kirk understood that, and
that message actually resonates with people. It resonated with my
generation in droves. I think that's probably what I'll talk
about in the next segment, so stay tuned for that.
I want to talk about the response to Charlie Kirk's death,
(28:14):
both on the left, which has been egregious, and on
the right, which has been very inspiring. Like I said,
Charlie Kirk's death has been a turning point. No pun
intended for the entire United States of America and largely
because of how people are choosing to respond to it
(28:34):
and what people are choosing to take away from it.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
So stay tuned for that.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
We've got a quick ad break coming up, and we
will be right back to dig into that again. This
entire episode of the show is dedicated to Charlie Kirk,
who was killed on Wednesday in a horrific political assassination.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Stay tuned, We're.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Going to be right back. We got a lot more
to cover in this last segment. All right, welcome back
(29:21):
The Next gener Report at Underscore, Ethan Buchanan on x
look me up on YouTube as well Ethan Buchanan or
the Next Gen Report. You'll have to dig either way
because it's a new channel, but you'll find me. Shoot
me an email Thenextgen Report at gmail dot com. Let
me know your thoughts on anything we ever talk about.
(29:43):
I'd love to hear from you, my listeners.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I want to talk.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
About the left's reaction to Charlie Kirk's death versus the
rights reaction to Charlie Kirk's death because it is important
in case you somehow missed it. Charlie Kirk found of
Turning Point in USA. Was killed on Wednesday, assassinated at
one of his iconic proved Me wrong events, Asked Me
Anything events. I don't remember what the label he put
(30:09):
on it was, but one of the events where he
goes to college campuses and he just debates with people
he disagrees with. Now, Charlie Kirk was by every definition
a kind of moderate conservative. He was not a radical.
He was not overly controversial. He said things like men
are men women or women? Christ is Lord, we should
(30:30):
have a secure border, and for that he was killed.
I want to talk a little bit about the left's
reaction first, because it has been despicable. We've heard all
the rhetoric from the left about basically everyone right.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Anyone, starting with Trump all the way down to you,
the voter.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
If you are too basically the right of Kamala Harris,
you're a fascist, you're a nazi. You're just a racist, xenophobic,
horrible person who doesn't deserve to live. That language extended,
of course, even to Charlie Kirk, who, again, I cannot
say this enough, Charlie Kirk was not a radical right
(31:16):
winger by.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Any stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
Charlie Kirk is pretty much what all of conservatism was
in the eighties. He's just a moderate conservative. He's not
there going out and saying, hey, we need to have
a dictator, we need Trump to crack down and force
Christianity on everyone. Although he was open about his faith
and openly encouraged other people to seek Christ. But he
(31:43):
wasn't an extremist, and attempts to paint him as an
extremist are frankly retarded. I don't know if I can
say that on the radio, but I did. I'm sorry,
I apologize in advance, but that's how I feel.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Now.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
The left is, of course, because they believe that Charlie
Kirk was a fascist, racist, homophobic, xenophobic Nazi have openly
celebrated his death, and I mean openly. If you've been
on the Internet at all, anywhere on the Internet, but
especially on places.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Like x you've seen it.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
You've seen people yourself probably cheering for Charlie Kirk's murder,
which is baffling to me because it was horrific to
watch and I did watch it. Here's this one leftist
outside of a Charlie Kirk vigil, openly cheering for Charlie
(32:39):
Kirk's assassination by singing, we got Charlie in the neck.
If you didn't know, Charlie Kirk was shot through the
neck by an assassin sniper at the Utah Valley University.
Here's this guy singing this song and cheering that on,
(33:09):
and he goes on to sing that song again another
three or four times.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Who's up next?
Speaker 6 (33:15):
DHS. They didn't just want this for Charlie. They didn't
just want Charlie Kirk murdered DHS. Department of Homeland Security.
That means anyone who's an ICE agent, federal law enforcement,
they want the same thing to happen to them. And
(33:36):
of course this gets back to the fact that again
we've had rhetoric that was leaning to this.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Morgan J.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
Freeman, he of course tweeted out right after Charlie Kirk
got murdered, America must come together around, must come together
around in condemning I don't think that makes sense the
cruel and violent assassination of Charlie Kirk. Somebody correctly pointed out,
you called for that, this is what you wanted. I
(34:04):
dream of an America with no Matt Gates. Marjorie Taylor
Greens and Jordan, a bunch of just Republican folks, including
even Trump. These are both influencers and commentators and elected officials.
And there's Charlie Kirk's name right there, and then he
has the audacity to say we must come together in
(34:25):
condemning the cruel.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
And violent assassination. I thought this was your dream, guy,
What do you mean? What's wrong? And these aren't outliers,
by the way, where is it there? It is?
Speaker 6 (34:43):
These are various screenshots from the platform Blue Sky, all
of them either praising the assassination of Charlie Kirk or
talking about who they want killed next.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan, are you me?
Speaker 6 (35:02):
Joe Rogan is by no means even a conservative, and
still because he's maybe to the.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Right of Kamala Harris, they want him dead. JK. Rowling.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
That's a big one, especially because we know that Charlie
Kirk was killed largely because of I think his views
on transgenderism. His shooter, we now know, was living with
a transgender boyfriend. It was a boyfriend that thought it
was a girlfriend. So we can blame this on transgender ideology,
(35:35):
which is inherently violent.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
And of course there.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Was transgender messaging engraved on the shellcasings of one of
the bullets that he did not fire.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
And I mean you can see it here.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
These are all calling for the assassination of other political figures,
and the left will still try to do what about ism,
which is wild to me.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Here's Donald Trump calling this.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Out, by the way, because the line from the left
has been either I'm so glad Charlie Kirk is dead,
or both sides need to turn down the rhetoric. No,
the left needs to turn down the rhetoric. The left,
we didn't do this.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
You did this. You are the radicals. We are normal.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
We have been normal the entire time, and you're trying
to pay normal as radical and killing us because of it.
We're sick of it. Here's Donald Trump calling that out.
He says, the left is radical. The right is only
radical because they don't want to be murdered.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Here he is saying this, The.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Radicals on the right oftentimes are radical because they don't
want to see crime. They don't want to see crime.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Worried about the border, they're.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Saying, we don't want these people coming, and we don't
want you burning our shopping centers. We don't want you
shooting our people in the middle of the street. The
radicals on the left are the problem, and they're vicious
and they're horrible, and they're politically savvy, although they want
men and women's sports they want.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
So he calls out the left for being politically savvy
and then goes on to say they're not that politically savvy,
which is right. But there he is calling now saying no,
we're not radical. We want to be safe. We want
to be free. That's what the right wants. That is
the message of the right. We want to be free
to go thing, to do things like go to church,
(37:23):
right on public transit, go shopping, carry our firearms and
know that I'm probably gonna be safe. I probably don't
need this firearm, but if I need it, I have it,
and I'll be protected. And I can leave this store,
and I can go to church, and I can worship
my God, and then I can go home with my
(37:44):
family and I can enjoy the fact that I live
in a country where I'm free to worship my God,
spend time with my family, and make sure they have
a good life and a good future, and then pass
down a country to them. That's what the right wants,
and that's radical. The left wants to gender mutilate your children.
(38:04):
The left wants to force your children to learn about
gay sex. The left wants you to open your borders
and let everyone into your country. And if you say, hey, no,
I think that's wrong and I want to have a
conversation about why you support it and I don't. On
this college campus, they will shoot you in the neck
for it. That's what happened to Charlie Kirk. I think
(38:27):
that's all I've got time for this week. I've got
a lot more to say, so tune back into the
Wednesday podcast, the Underscore or the next hyphen Gen Report
wherever you get your podcasts at Underscore Ethan Buchanan on Eggs.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
This situation will continue to develop. We've got a lot
more to talk about here. I just don't have.
Speaker 6 (38:49):
I don't have enough time to say everything I want to,
So follow me on X Tune back into the podcast
on Wednesday, or back here Sunday at seven on AM
nine to fifty k PRCI. Thank you very much for
listening to the Next Gen Report.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Taking that King
From the heart of the Space City to the heart
of gen Z. Welcome to Next Gen Conversation, not Dad's
Talk Radio. Ethan talks to you about the issues and
events the men are to our generation.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
This is the Next Gen Report, which Ethan vukm is.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
We're active in about fifteen campuses and we're growing very,
very quickly. And keep in mind, this is not just
a flash and the Pan movement. We're going to become
an institution to give them the power and the confidence
to stand.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Up and let their voice be heard.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I started this organization when I was eighteen years old.
I decided not to go to college. I didn't get
in my dream school, which was the UNIX six Military
Academy at West Point. I had this idea to galvanize
and motivate the future youth of this country around a
core set of ideas, not just political parties or politicians.
And the ideas are really America's the greatest country in
the history of the world. Constitution is the great political
document ever written in free enterprise, the most sure way
(01:02):
to lift people out of poverty and create prosperity for all.
Those are the three big ideas, and I think that's
something that can win. We as Christians are called to
go into the public arena to correct error with truth.
So I go to college campuses and there's a lot
(01:24):
of error. We're all sinners, we are all living error.
I'm far more interested in what God wants of me
than what I want from God.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I have to say this without getting emotional, but I'm
very proud of my husband, and I know many of
you are too. You have worked so hard, and I
know a lot of you have seen. Obviously his video
is on TikTok and all the stuff he does on campus,
but no one gets to see him from my angle
(01:52):
except for myself and our children fall up with us
and the sacrifices that he made this year.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
He's amazing. I'm very blessed, and.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I would not have been able to do any of
it without Erica. And that's the real truth.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
You are here as a grassroots response to the top
down revolution happening in this country. I want our Turning
Point USA students to receive around of applause. These are
the freedom fighters of America.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
And the media said the Turning Point could never run
a ground game.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
They weren't experienced. They didn't know, Charlie Ray.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
This is the greatest generational realignment since Woodstock. This generation
is the most conservative generation that we have seen and
well over fifty years, and the numbers show it. What
young people especially are screaming at is they say, give
me a structure that I can live my life by,
(02:59):
and especially with young men, more challenging of them, more
saying you know what, honestly, I'm not going to talk
down to you. Stop being a boy and become a man.
You want to learn what that means. Become to church,
and I'll tell you what it means to become a man,
because we have the greatest story ever told. What can
I do to save the country? You answer that question
every single day because you are doing the work to
(03:20):
save this beautiful republic. You are doing something that is
bigger than you.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
If everything completely goes away, How do you want to
be remembered.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
To be I want to be remembered for courage, for
my faith. That would be the most important thing.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
The most important thing is my faith in my life.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Hey, y'all, welcome to the Next Gen Report.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Obviously, I want to start off by saying this episode
of the show is dedicated to Charlie Kirk. I've seen
a lot of folks on the right, a lot of hosts,
a lot of commentators, podcasters, the works, all taking time
to tell their personal stories about how good of a
(04:24):
friend Charlie was to them or how much they love
Charlie Kirk. And you know you've seen it all a
thousand times already. I don't have any of those stories.
I never had the privilege of meeting Charlie Kirk. I'm
just one of the thousands, hundreds of thousands of gen
Z members of gen Z that were inspired by Charlie Kirk.
(04:50):
Charlie was a guy who looked at my generation really
and said, obviously, you guys want something better than what
has been passed down to you from the last two
or three generations. And I think I can give that
to you. I think I can motivate you to go
(05:11):
out and get that for yourselves. And that's what he
dedicated himself to. He dedicated himself to sharing a conservative
message with young people, sharing the gospel with young people,
going out and changing hearts and minds in a way
that benefited the United States of America and my generation
and me personally.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I mean, how many people my age.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Are younger or even older, grew up watching Charlie Kirk videos.
Even if it was just passively, Even if you're not
a super political person, you just kind of saw Charlie
Kirk owning the Libs and thought it was funny. Even
if you just scrolled past it and laughed at it
a little bit, chances are you were able to glean something.
(05:53):
One of my biggest influences is Charlie Kirk. For that reason,
he made being political as a younger per this day
and age attainable to a lot of people, including myself.
And it's hard to measure in the moment the impact
of that, but I think we've started to see it
over the last several days. If you somehow missed it,
(06:18):
Charlie was assassinated on Wednesday, and it was a political assassination.
We know then, we'll dig into that as we go
through this episode. But even by his death, he's having
an unbelievable effect on both the conservative movement and young people.
(06:44):
The folks my age who maybe weren't super political but
liked Charlie's content, Now they're waking up. If you thought
he was influential before, if you thought he got young
people's attention before. If you think he'd got his message
to young people before, what we've seen in the aftermath
(07:06):
of his murder is drastically more significant. And that's not
to demean the work that he did when he was
with us. I think, rather than that, it actually speaks
to how effective his work was, because you only see
(07:27):
this shift when someone truly mattered, and I think Charlie
Kirk truly mattered. We're going to be digging into Kirk's
life and legacy and his assassination and the after effects
of it to this evening on the Next Gen Report,
so stay tuned. We've got a lot more coming up.
Thank you Turning Point USA for that tribute to Charlie Kirk.
We'll be back in just a second after this ad
break to dig into his legacy.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
We'll we are back, all righty, Welcome back to the
(08:21):
Next General Report. I am Ethan Buchanan. Thank you for
joining me. This episode is of course dedicated to the
late great Charlie Kirk, who was assassinated on Wednesday. I
don't want to dwell on the death of Charlie Kirk.
(08:41):
It was horrific. I saw it most people in this
country did. The video was everywhere. It was unavoidable, it
was violent, it was shocking. I consider myself to have
a pretty strong stomach. I, like most people my age,
grew up on the Internet. I've spent a lot of
(09:01):
time on the Internet. I'm twenty two years old. About
half of my life I've had pretty much open access
to the Internet. My parents did their best, but I
was sneakier than they were, so, you know, to put
it mildly, Seeing Charlie's murder was not the first time
I had seen someone die online, but it hit me
(09:23):
quite a bit harder than any other death I'd ever seen.
I was at work when it happened. I almost threw
up at my desk. I don't want to dwell on
it if you don't know what happened. Charlie Kirk was
speaking at one of his college ask me anything, Proved
me wrong events.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
This is what he was known for.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
This is where many folks, including myself, first discovered Charlie
Kirk doing these events, sitting down at a college campus
with an open mic and saying, hey, let's discuss these
hot button issues. Let's even disagree, but let's have a
conversation like humans about these hot button issues, and a
(10:04):
sniper assassinated him in the middle of that event, actually
towards the beginning. It was very shocking. It was horrifying.
I've seen the video multiple times. You probably have to
if you're on X I don't encourage you to look
for it. Normally, with a video like this, I would
say it's important to go watch it. It's important to
(10:25):
know what is happening. It's important to know what is
being done to people.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
By the left.
Speaker 6 (10:33):
The best case of this is IRENA's The Rootskune, where
I played as much of that video on the YouTube
as I could play without YouTube actually flagging it, and
I think they did anyway, because it hasn't gone a
lot of traction.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
But that's fine.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
I say it's important to watch a video like that
because it's important to know what's at stake.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
This isn't hypotheticals. This is real life.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
We're dealing with real dangers, real violent people who are
using real violence against real other people. But I'm not
going to play the video of Charlie Kirks murder. It
hits me too hard, It hits most Americans too hard,
and I think it's gotten enough airtime already, I'm not
going to do it. I'm not going to play any
(11:20):
videos from that event. Instead, in this segment, I'm gonna
talk about what Charlie Kirk spent his last few days
alive talking about, particularly with Irena z Ruskap. I mentioned
her just a minute ago. Charlie Kirk talked to her
(11:41):
about her just as much as I have in the
last few days, and he specifically called out the left
on this. So first, I'm gonna play you this clip
of WHOOPI Goldberg telling you to stop politicizing this, and
then I'm gonna play you a clip of Charlie Kirk
talking about why it is important to politicize this.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So first, well, here's Whoopy Goldberg.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
I you know, look, oh, young woman is dead. Let's
let's take that into my into consideration. And yes, a
man who should have been behind bars was loose and out.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, well he's listen. He was a schizophrenic man.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
His mother begged them to take him and put him away.
So stop politicizing this. This is not political. This has
to do with how we take care of our sick
Americans when they are in need.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
All right, that clip courtesy of the Media Research Center.
So this is political. Stop politicizing this, No, I won't.
Whoopy Goldberg is correct to point out that the killer
of Arena Zeruska, his mother did ask the court to
(13:05):
keep him in prison because she knew that he was
a threat to himself and others. So why didn't they
That's a policy question. Policy politics. It is important to
understand who's making these poor decisions and how they got
into office.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
That's politics.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Charlie Kirk, in his final days, correctly pointed out that
if we don't address these issues, it will happen again.
If we want things to change, it's one hundred percent
necessary to politicize the senseless murder of Irena Zerutzska because
it was politics that allowed a savage monster with fourteen
priors to be free on the streets to kill her.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
He's right, you may not like it, but it's true,
all right. It is here.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
He is explaining this on his show on his podcast
Take a Listen. On August twenty second, Arena Zarutsko was
stabbed to death on the rail system in Charlotte, North
Carolina by a savage career criminal.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Her life story, I think will be told both in the
United States and Ukraine for years to come. What do
you think the importance of this story is, most fundamentally,
this was one of the coldest, most senseless murders I've
ever seen. She had no interaction with this guy whatsoever.
She was sitting mine her own business, and he just
takes on a knife and just decides to stab her.
I do say this with some form of just heaviness.
(14:31):
I don't like politicizing situations like this, but it just
necessitates it because there are so many dynamics at play here.
Based on the information evidence we have, the attacker did
say I got that white girl. The attacker racialized it
in his own telling of this situation. And we all
(14:51):
know this. Any honest observer of your program knows this,
including Van Jones, even knows this deep down, which is that,
of course, if a random white person on a sub
took out a knife and stabbed a black girl senselessly
to death, there would be massive media coverage, there would
be policy changes, there'd be people having to apologize for this.
(15:11):
We saw this in George Floyd. And yet, for whatever reason,
the situation has not garnered even a fraction of that
kind of outrage or backlash.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
Now, this all hits a whole lot different knowing that
Charlie Kirk, just a few days after saying all of
this was himself the victim of a political murder.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
It's shocking. It's difficult to cope with because, in.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Hindsight, hearing a lot of what Charlie Kirk said throughout
his career, even recently, it's almost prophetic. It is a
lot of the things he said right there applied to
his own murder. It it's something to think about, it's
(15:58):
something to process.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
But again, I don't want to dwell too much on
his death.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
I want to take a look at what he said
there in the context that he said it. He's right,
the Left, for all intention purposes, has ignored the death
of Arena's Routskope as.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Best as they can.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
We forced them to bring it up by making it
a national issue, but they would have ignored it if
they could.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
He addressed that why is that? Why is it that George.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Floyd, a career criminal, can overdose on drugs and a
man is now spending the rest of his life in
prison for that. And then we had national outrage, we
had riots, We heard businesses burned to the ground.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
How do we get to that point?
Speaker 6 (16:48):
But a Ukrainian refugee who were supposed to all care about, right,
that's the line from the left. They won't shut up
about Ukraine except when a Ukrainian refugee is murdered in
the United States of America by him black man who
is let out of prison thanks to what appears to
be soft on crime policies. That's worth talking about. That
(17:10):
is politics. You can say, oh, we don't want to
politicize this. Great, Do you have a better idea of
how to stop this. We have to change the policy somewhere.
We have to change the political discourse somewhere. That's the
only way to stop these murders from happening. The left
(17:33):
doesn't want to talk about that. The left wants you
to ignore obviously political issues when they don't help the left.
The same is true of Charlie's murder as it was
of Irena zaruskis all right, we got a lot more
coming up.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Charlie Kirk is a.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Legend, and it will take a lot more than one
show to really do him justice. But one episode is
all I have right now, So stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
All right.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
So I want to devote this the longest segment of
tonight's show to Charlie's message, and that's something that I
don't want to see lost in the aftermath. There's a
lot that we can glean from Charlie's murder, from Charlie's death,
(18:43):
I am terrified that we will wind up losing that
or prioritizing that over what Charlie lived for. I think
that's more important. The aftermath of Charlie Kirk's death is
very important, don't get me wrong. Shift, the political shift,
the social shift that we have seen following the murder
(19:06):
of Charlie Kirk, the martyrdom of Charlie Kirk, maybe no
pun intended the greatest turning point in modern American history.
But I don't want us to lose the forest for
the trees or what have you. I don't want us
to forget what Charlie Kirk lived for.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
And Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Had a very important political and faith message that inspired
literally a generation, an entire generation, from people you know
five or six years older than me to people five
or six years younger than me. And for a point
of reference, I'm twenty two years old and I've been
involved in politics and media since I was maybe fourteenish
(19:50):
because largely of Charlie Kirk. And I'm not the only one.
There are others.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
So what was he.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Actually fighting for? Why was Charlie Kirk killed? It was
because he was a powerful warrior and a powerful mouthpiece
for both the conservative.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Right and the Christian faith.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
So I want to talk first about the intersection of
those two things. Christendom and conservative politics meet right where
Charlie Kirk was, and his political message was we need
to have a society that incentivizes and makes it possible
for people to have large families, raise them in the
(20:37):
Christian tradition, and keep them safe and provided for. That
I think was the essence of Charlie Kirk's political message,
and his faith message was, Hey, go to church, seek Christ,
have a large family, because that's what the Bible calls
you to do. This clip of Charlie with Laura Ingram.
This is on September eighth, so just a few days
(20:58):
before he died. Here he is kind of talking about
all that. I think this is a very important clip.
Take a listen what is going on with women and
not wanting to prioritize family.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
This is a pattern that I've seen time and time
in these college campuses where young men are ordering their
life correctly. They want to first and foremost have children,
get married, and then have a nice job or to
be able to travel. If you look deeper into this data,
it's completely consistent with other data we've seen in the last
couple of years. Young women they don't value having children,
(21:34):
and this is one of the reasons why we are
seeing a fertility collapse in the West. We're seeing less
and less young people get married. We're seeing more and
more people go into their thirties to have children. Now,
mind you, this is starting to change. The last eighteen
months especially, we are seeing a little bit of a
turning of the corner, if you will, as the country
is starting to get more into traditionalism and young people
are starting to go back to church. But if you
(21:55):
play out the liberal worldview, the Kamala Harris worldview, to
its first possible logical point, you have a country with
literally no future. When you play out the logical endpoint
of President Trump's agenda of where young men voted for him,
you have one of lots of children increasing communities, and
you also have a need done for mass immigration, and
(22:16):
this all kind of ties together Trump voters. Young men,
they want family, children in legacy, young women who voted
for Kamala Harris, they want careerism, consumerism, and lowliness. That
is a dramatic divide that is going to play out
in our politics for the years to come.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
Now, I can tell you with all honesty, I am
one of the young men that heard Charlie Kirk throughout
my kind of high school years preach that message, and
it resonated with me. I remember when I was as
young as you know, fourteen or fifteen, I knew that
I wanted to be married by twenty and have a
child by twenty twenty one or but by the time
(22:56):
I was twenty one. Now I just got married this year.
I'm twenty two, so I'm close, but I kind of
miss it it. Sorry, Charlie. I did my best. But
this is a biblical message, and it is a good message.
I think what God says in Genesis when he looks
(23:20):
down at Adam and says it is not.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Good for men to be alone. That's true.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
It's not good for men to be alone, and it's
not good for women to be alone either.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Men and women.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
If you believe the biblical narrative, which I do, men
and women were both created by God with a specific purpose,
and they were created for each other. They need each other,
they do. That was a big part of Charlie Kirk's message.
It resonated deeply with me. That's one of the reasons
that I think I got married at twenty twenty, at
(23:54):
twenty two years old, in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I keep getting the years and how old I was
mixed up.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
But he got married in twenty twenty five at the
age of twenty two, and Charlie Kirk is one of
the reasons for that, because I heard him constantly say, Hey,
this is what you need to do.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
This is what scripture calls you to do.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
And it's true Genesis one Versus twenty twenty eight, and
God blessed them, and God said to them, be fruitful, multiplying,
fill the earth and subdue it. Have dominion over the
fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens,
and over every living thing that moves on the earth.
That was a big part of Charlie's message, and I
(24:34):
think that's important. That's more of his face based message.
His political message was I think quite a bit similar
or simpler. His political message was one, let's create a
society that facilitates and encourages that. But more importantly, I
think the ultimate kind of Charlie kirkism was let's create
(24:58):
a society where people have a conversation. Here he is
at one of these college events that he became so
well known for and eventually gave his life at, talking
about why he was actually there, and he says in
this video, I'm here to have conversations with people I
disagree with. Because when we can't get to a point
(25:19):
where we have these difficult conversations with people we disagree with,
that's when violence happens. This clip residates even more now
that he's been murdered for having these conversations. Take a
lism people.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I go around universities and have challenging conversations, and because
that's what is so important to our country is to
find our disagreements respectfully, because when people stop talking, that's
when violence happens. I've never seen someone well, it's a
growing trend because people like me are facing violence assaults
(25:53):
the left, lady, and yes, the campus Antifa. I've been
stormed out of restaurants. I've been assaulted publicly multiple death
right so what's your There's more people that agree with
me than some people would pop actually believe, and they
come out of the woodwork when I do stuff like this.
We record all of it so that we put on
the internet so people can see these ideas collide.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
When people stop talking, that's.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
When you get violence. That's when civil war happens because
you start to think the other side is so evil
and they lose their humanity.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
That to me is probably one of if not no,
I'll say one of the most important part of Charlie
Kirk's legacy is his message on faith, But in a
close second or third easily in the top five is
the fact that Charlie Kirk understood the importance of political discourse,
(26:47):
and he also demonstrated the fact that it's actually easier
to have than you might think. You don't have to
agree with the opposition, you don't even have to like
the opposition, but you do need to have conversations with them.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
You do.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
I think just personally, I've tried and failed to emulate
that I'm the type of person and this is something
I'm working on where I get very upset with someone
when I think I've made a good point and I
can tell that they're intentionally refusing to acknowledge it or
even think about it.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I'm working on it. This is something that Charlie Kirk
was really an inspiration to me on was he was.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
He confronted people, but he was not confrontational. I confront
people all the time. I'm confrontational about it. Charlie Kirk
is a better man than I. But he understood the
fact that listen, when we can't disagree and say, hey, listen,
I don't agree with you, you don't agree with me,
(27:52):
but we can have a conversation. We see each other
as people and we can go to the ballot box
and made the best man win. Kirk understood that, and
that message actually resonates with people. It resonated with my
generation in droves. I think that's probably what I'll talk
about in the next segment, so stay tuned for that.
I want to talk about the response to Charlie Kirk's death,
(28:14):
both on the left, which has been egregious, and on
the right, which has been very inspiring. Like I said,
Charlie Kirk's death has been a turning point. No pun
intended for the entire United States of America and largely
because of how people are choosing to respond to it
(28:34):
and what people are choosing to take away from it.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
So stay tuned for that.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
We've got a quick ad break coming up, and we
will be right back to dig into that again. This
entire episode of the show is dedicated to Charlie Kirk,
who was killed on Wednesday in a horrific political assassination.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Stay tuned, We're.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Going to be right back. We got a lot more
to cover in this last segment. All right, welcome back
(29:21):
The Next gener Report at Underscore, Ethan Buchanan on x
look me up on YouTube as well Ethan Buchanan or
the Next Gen Report. You'll have to dig either way
because it's a new channel, but you'll find me. Shoot
me an email Thenextgen Report at gmail dot com. Let
me know your thoughts on anything we ever talk about.
(29:43):
I'd love to hear from you, my listeners.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I want to talk.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
About the left's reaction to Charlie Kirk's death versus the
rights reaction to Charlie Kirk's death because it is important
in case you somehow missed it. Charlie Kirk found of
Turning Point in USA. Was killed on Wednesday, assassinated at
one of his iconic proved Me wrong events, Asked Me
Anything events. I don't remember what the label he put
(30:09):
on it was, but one of the events where he
goes to college campuses and he just debates with people
he disagrees with. Now, Charlie Kirk was by every definition
a kind of moderate conservative. He was not a radical.
He was not overly controversial. He said things like men
are men women or women? Christ is Lord, we should
(30:30):
have a secure border, and for that he was killed.
I want to talk a little bit about the left's
reaction first, because it has been despicable. We've heard all
the rhetoric from the left about basically everyone right.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Anyone, starting with Trump all the way down to you,
the voter.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
If you are too basically the right of Kamala Harris,
you're a fascist, you're a nazi. You're just a racist, xenophobic,
horrible person who doesn't deserve to live. That language extended,
of course, even to Charlie Kirk, who, again, I cannot
say this enough, Charlie Kirk was not a radical right
(31:16):
winger by.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Any stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
Charlie Kirk is pretty much what all of conservatism was
in the eighties. He's just a moderate conservative. He's not
there going out and saying, hey, we need to have
a dictator, we need Trump to crack down and force
Christianity on everyone. Although he was open about his faith
and openly encouraged other people to seek Christ. But he
(31:43):
wasn't an extremist, and attempts to paint him as an
extremist are frankly retarded. I don't know if I can
say that on the radio, but I did. I'm sorry,
I apologize in advance, but that's how I feel.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Now.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
The left is, of course, because they believe that Charlie
Kirk was a fascist, racist, homophobic, xenophobic Nazi have openly
celebrated his death, and I mean openly. If you've been
on the Internet at all, anywhere on the Internet, but
especially on places.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Like x you've seen it.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
You've seen people yourself probably cheering for Charlie Kirk's murder,
which is baffling to me because it was horrific to
watch and I did watch it. Here's this one leftist
outside of a Charlie Kirk vigil, openly cheering for Charlie
(32:39):
Kirk's assassination by singing, we got Charlie in the neck.
If you didn't know, Charlie Kirk was shot through the
neck by an assassin sniper at the Utah Valley University.
Here's this guy singing this song and cheering that on,
(33:09):
and he goes on to sing that song again another
three or four times.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Who's up next?
Speaker 6 (33:15):
DHS. They didn't just want this for Charlie. They didn't
just want Charlie Kirk murdered DHS. Department of Homeland Security.
That means anyone who's an ICE agent, federal law enforcement,
they want the same thing to happen to them. And
(33:36):
of course this gets back to the fact that again
we've had rhetoric that was leaning to this.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Morgan J.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
Freeman, he of course tweeted out right after Charlie Kirk
got murdered, America must come together around, must come together
around in condemning I don't think that makes sense the
cruel and violent assassination of Charlie Kirk. Somebody correctly pointed out,
you called for that, this is what you wanted. I
(34:04):
dream of an America with no Matt Gates. Marjorie Taylor
Greens and Jordan, a bunch of just Republican folks, including
even Trump. These are both influencers and commentators and elected officials.
And there's Charlie Kirk's name right there, and then he
has the audacity to say we must come together in
(34:25):
condemning the cruel.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
And violent assassination. I thought this was your dream, guy,
What do you mean? What's wrong? And these aren't outliers,
by the way, where is it there? It is?
Speaker 6 (34:43):
These are various screenshots from the platform Blue Sky, all
of them either praising the assassination of Charlie Kirk or
talking about who they want killed next.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan, are you me?
Speaker 6 (35:02):
Joe Rogan is by no means even a conservative, and
still because he's maybe to the.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Right of Kamala Harris, they want him dead. JK. Rowling.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
That's a big one, especially because we know that Charlie
Kirk was killed largely because of I think his views
on transgenderism. His shooter, we now know, was living with
a transgender boyfriend. It was a boyfriend that thought it
was a girlfriend. So we can blame this on transgender ideology,
(35:35):
which is inherently violent.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
And of course there.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Was transgender messaging engraved on the shellcasings of one of
the bullets that he did not fire.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
And I mean you can see it here.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
These are all calling for the assassination of other political figures,
and the left will still try to do what about ism,
which is wild to me.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Here's Donald Trump calling this.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Out, by the way, because the line from the left
has been either I'm so glad Charlie Kirk is dead,
or both sides need to turn down the rhetoric. No,
the left needs to turn down the rhetoric. The left,
we didn't do this.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
You did this. You are the radicals. We are normal.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
We have been normal the entire time, and you're trying
to pay normal as radical and killing us because of it.
We're sick of it. Here's Donald Trump calling that out.
He says, the left is radical. The right is only
radical because they don't want to be murdered.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Here he is saying this, The.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Radicals on the right oftentimes are radical because they don't
want to see crime. They don't want to see crime.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Worried about the border, they're.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Saying, we don't want these people coming, and we don't
want you burning our shopping centers. We don't want you
shooting our people in the middle of the street. The
radicals on the left are the problem, and they're vicious
and they're horrible, and they're politically savvy, although they want
men and women's sports they want.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
So he calls out the left for being politically savvy
and then goes on to say they're not that politically savvy,
which is right. But there he is calling now saying no,
we're not radical. We want to be safe. We want
to be free. That's what the right wants. That is
the message of the right. We want to be free
to go thing, to do things like go to church,
(37:23):
right on public transit, go shopping, carry our firearms and
know that I'm probably gonna be safe. I probably don't
need this firearm, but if I need it, I have it,
and I'll be protected. And I can leave this store,
and I can go to church, and I can worship
my God, and then I can go home with my
(37:44):
family and I can enjoy the fact that I live
in a country where I'm free to worship my God,
spend time with my family, and make sure they have
a good life and a good future, and then pass
down a country to them. That's what the right wants,
and that's radical. The left wants to gender mutilate your children.
(38:04):
The left wants to force your children to learn about
gay sex. The left wants you to open your borders
and let everyone into your country. And if you say, hey, no,
I think that's wrong and I want to have a
conversation about why you support it and I don't. On
this college campus, they will shoot you in the neck
for it. That's what happened to Charlie Kirk. I think
(38:27):
that's all I've got time for this week. I've got
a lot more to say, so tune back into the
Wednesday podcast, the Underscore or the next hyphen Gen Report
wherever you get your podcasts at Underscore Ethan Buchanan on Eggs.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
This situation will continue to develop. We've got a lot
more to talk about here. I just don't have.
Speaker 6 (38:49):
I don't have enough time to say everything I want to,
So follow me on X Tune back into the podcast
on Wednesday, or back here Sunday at seven on AM
nine to fifty k PRCI. Thank you very much for
listening to the Next Gen Report.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Taking that King
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
The Breakfast Club
The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, And Charlamagne Tha God!