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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, welcome to our dunkin music lounge. What's up everybody
on Max? Well, rounder, applause for yourselves for being here
in abandoning work and responsibilities to come and hang with us.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
This is a buddy of mine.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
It's it's really fun when we get to reconnect and
share stories and really get to know a little bit
more in depth what the what the music is about.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
And with a new album on the way and new music.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
That we get in a couple of days, for those
of you that are watching this after Friday, when we
get this new music, just forget that. I said to
all that all right, but how about we give a
round applause and welcome into our dunkin music lounge.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Jamie Miller, where are you at, Jamay? Hey?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah, call up a seat, man, grab a microphone, dude,
hang out for a bit, stay awhile, let's go. Welcome
to the city again. Yeah, come on, dude, New York
City is here for you. You've been bopping around for
a little while. The smile is still big, and the
music is still passionate and vulnerable and all that. So uh,
let's first start with Yeah, how are you feeling creating?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Now? Where's the heart at brother.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I feel like so much has changed since we last
saw each other, but I feel happy. There was a
period of time in like twenty twenty two where I
just felt like I lost everything and I was very sad,
very depressed, and I just took the time out to
to like just feel again and take some time away
from it so I could fall back in love with music.
So yeah, I feel like I've I'm just really happy.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
You found it.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I found it?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, you found it? Is that indicative of what we
get on?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I don't want to skip, you know, too far ahead
in this conversation, but October eighteenth, man, that's a special day.
Is that indicative of the music that we get a
little bit more you know, optimistic, but the passion is
still there. Is there vulnerability that's written in between the
you know, the pages of the journal that jumped out
and became songs.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, I feel like honestly, like whenever in the UK,
like we don't really talk about like therapy and stuff. Yeah,
I'm from Coddiff and I've lived in America for seven
years now, and yeah, I just feel like this project
I'm doing is like one that I've waited to do
for a long time and lost a lot of people
along the way and gained new friends and love, then
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fell in love and all this stuff. And I just
feel like this project is something that I've always wanted
to do and it's finally here.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, and I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
And it's like, I don't know you you're feeling it, man,
You're you're feeling life now. And to be in this,
in this space. How fulfilling is it to be able
to write and create in this atmosphere that you're in
right now.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Honestly it's it's I'm so grateful. Like I'm from the
most normal hometown. So like the fact that I'm still
doing this like seven years, Like it's like a wild
to me.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
What makes your hometown so normal?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Like just like if you're from my hometown, you get
married young, you get pregnant young. And I was like,
I just want to I just wanted a little bit
more different. Yeah, I just wanted different. I feel like
there's more to life than the street you grew up on.
That's what my mama aways used to say. And I
was just like, there's not If you're from my hometown,
you don't need to leave my hometown. So I was like,
I got out and I was really excited that had
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caught out.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
So but I mean to represent and to be that, yeah,
that that beacon of light. Maybe to be that that
little bit of hope that there's someone who is in
your hometown that is also thinking that same thought that
you were thinking.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You're that example. How does that feel? Brother?
Speaker 4 (03:11):
I don't feel like that. I just I still feel
like Jamie.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I mean wherever I go and my friends keep me home,
both my best friends here from Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Give it up for the family.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
They tell you, yeah, they tell you when when it
really isn't that cracking all the time.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
They tell you. They keep it real for you.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
But it's nice to go back. I go back every year.
And my mom and dad are the best people. My
sisters and yeah, I'm just grateful.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
And while we're on that topic, can we all say
happy belated birthday to mom, like you know, didn't she
just say yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And to you as well?
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Ye birthday was yesterday, was the day before.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, And we have something like that because my birthday
is the day after my mom's as well, in December
the thirteenth and the fourteenth. But I want to hang
out in that space of what does it mean to
have your tribe, your people with you, your you know,
your family that means the most to you to see
you along this journey, to watch you grow, to watch
you experience the world over and living your dream.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Like my mom and dad.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
They sacrificed so much for me, like and like I said,
we came from such a normal background where I didn't
have much, but everything they did have they gave to
like making me try to achieve my dreams. And I
owe I owe everything I have to them. And they're
just my best friends. I love them so much. And
they're Scottish and they sound like Fiona's track and they're
just so cute and love it and I love it.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I love the accent.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Let's let's swing it back to the music man, because
we've been getting to tease a little teaser on everybody's like, yeah,
I know the hook, I want I want more. We
have a couple of days until we get another love song,
but a big love song for you. I'm looking here
we are It's the name of the album long Way Home.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Right Yeah, yeah, so now you know.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
My bad, But I think that that was something I
had read also. But here's the thing is it is
a it's a big which you've been given us and
then we get on Friday with the full song is
a big sounding hook. It's very passionate in the way
that it sounds. What was it like to write, dude?
I wrote this with one of my best friends, Kyle Shapiro.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
He's in like the band Time Flies, and like a
lot of people know him and he's just one of
the best people ever. I wrote a few of my
songs maybe next time it is what it is with him,
and just to go back to the people that I
started with felt so special. And it's such a different
song for me, Like it's like a country sounding song,
and I just I love country music and I thought,
like for my debut album, I want to experiment and
(05:34):
like just try new things.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
And this song just means the world to me.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
And it's like, honestly, if you when you hear it's
like I'm paying respect to my moment, Dad's story and
you're hearing a sac.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
But so is there enough? Is there enough gas in
the car to take the long way home?
Speaker 8 (05:48):
You know?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Are there? Are you know? Are all the steps?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
How many steps are you taking to take the long
way home, Like, honestly.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Dude, yeah, I don't ever take a long way home.
How every shortka I take as always the shortca.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
But with love, with love, you have to you have
to Yeah, well, finding that person?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
What does it mean to find that person?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Maybe it is you're forever mate, or it's someone that
is in your family you know that you're willing to
write about and sing about and to feel those emotions
for you to write that. What is it about finding
that person that meant so much that you wanted to
make this song and challenge yourself to do so.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
I just like my mom and dad.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Again respect to my mom and dad, I'm single as
a pringal, But I just think for me it was
more so like we didn't grow up with much. There
was no money involved in yeah, like there was nothing
to like persuade anyone.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
It was just I love you.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I don't care if you work as a bin man,
as a taxi driver as this, Like no matter what you're.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Doing or where you're going, I'm going with you and yep.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
I felt like that was such a great foundation for
me to watch growing up because it was so cool,
like I didn't need like an iPad or anything like
we had.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Each other sweet.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
It's just really I just love them and I think
it's really cool.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
So also another question that I want to ask that
has to do with with this particular song is has
anyone flooded your Are your dms flooded? I should say,
with people wanting you to sing the song at their wedding.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Yes, But I also posted a video saying let me
sing this song?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Ye again love messages, it's I will, I will, I'll
pick Okay, well will you sing it here at our
dunk in music lounge?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Okay, right on, So it's time for me to shut
up and let you do your thing.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Huh d I think we're starting with a different song,
but yeah, we'll be in.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
We'll get there. We'll get there.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
From Marduk, let's give them aram applause you guys, well, let's.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
Just trust your God. But at them Sack could swear
didn't we made to be.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
Standing none?
Speaker 6 (08:06):
It does them not frozy?
Speaker 7 (08:11):
How what these Dooyd? You're telling me no, I'm all alone,
had no to and that no, we won't help. But
I'm telling him must say maybe a time not be
(08:33):
you'll give me a stead gave no man be at
time be you'll be the one, and I don't guide away.
It's gonna come down to the loane, have to say make.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
Me next time.
Speaker 9 (09:04):
Ste don't know why much when nod the.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
Ho hoant skip rats.
Speaker 10 (09:18):
The party doesn't hurt.
Speaker 8 (09:21):
Thinking that night but in death la with the bruiser
party and carry.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
On back call us alone.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
They'll never give back, gonna get it back. Maybe that
down I'll be You're getting mestead of get the po
May be that time be you'll be the live card.
(09:57):
So I get down to to say who may be
next town.
Speaker 8 (10:09):
Who?
Speaker 7 (10:09):
Maybe next town.
Speaker 8 (10:16):
Baby, next town, hobby nus you'll give me everything a
state of gab and not maybe tway.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
You'll be a getaway count down the case to me
to see.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
So the wonna to say.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
Maybe time.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Thank you. This is so cool, by the way, man,
I've always wanted to do this, So thank you so
much for bringing me here. Yeah this, and I thank
you so much for being here, guys. Do it's really
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cool to see some familiar faces. I love you, guys.
And this next song is called it is what it is,
and it's one of my favorite songs I've ever written.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
So if you know.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Somethings so good on paper, somethings are reading stars, some
stories out words it then and then there's something like
river their picture of code culture.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
Some people make you vader, and.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Then there's you. You see this come case counter could
resist those not sound like? That's the pie?
Speaker 8 (12:16):
Is you are?
Speaker 10 (12:18):
Say?
Speaker 7 (12:19):
Can I see you again?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
You see this?
Speaker 7 (12:21):
Ladies class home fun, some their picture you don't hit
some to that you can say, can I see you
can see? Is what it is?
Speaker 6 (12:36):
I guess cand it to you? You play your picture
more too?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Well, it's hard.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
Don't you'll like it when you like it to yourself work,
But those words and the letter.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
It takes my time because the day I feel fur
is the day.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
I fell a pie.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
I guess it is what it is?
Speaker 7 (13:01):
But you do exist? Th'st like sound guys, stop on you?
Is you are my head? I said? Can't see you again?
You see this?
Speaker 8 (13:10):
What it is?
Speaker 7 (13:11):
Const home problem?
Speaker 6 (13:14):
Who whips out?
Speaker 7 (13:17):
You don't financing?
Speaker 6 (13:20):
You see this one is full place hotel? Who knows this?
Those night?
Speaker 7 (13:27):
So no, if I'll never.
Speaker 8 (13:33):
See you again, I can see this one is constolets
out here?
Speaker 7 (13:40):
So I feed you are my Hey, say can see
you again. You can see this what he needs? Now
can see this what it is? I guess you is
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what it is.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Oh yeah, that's normally played on tour to a much
bigger crowd, though I don't know if it's meant for
an intimate setting.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
But that's one of my favorite songs.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
And this next song is a song that I don't
even know if I'm meant to be talking whilst before
I'm saying. But the song is a love song I
wrote called long Way Home. It's my lead single off
my debut album. It's one of my favorite songs I've
ever made, and I think I just tapped into just
finally being myself and finally finding the sound that I've
(14:39):
always wanted to do. And it's a honestly a paying
respect to my mum and dad's love, and that inspired
me to write this song.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
So this is long Way. This is the first time
I've ever sang it. So if I mess it up,
no I didn't.
Speaker 10 (15:02):
It drove a taxi, the moon was cleaning the houses.
We could better pay the bills, but we never worried
about it. Telling me stories, is they tensed? The carol
Ken You look in the back didn't have to much.
We had everything.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
I want a love like that he.
Speaker 8 (15:19):
Had, but it doesn't seem soon takes my good intha
soon who makes me feel like, wanna tell job not
(15:40):
lock began? Lord, no place to go your head den mouth,
don't want it all you.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
Wanna tell?
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Save to you a broach, don't run me, it's fixing.
Sometimes you'll find a piece. You're fitting people always missing
list and naked, and sometimes it's sort of takes. Oh
you make me wanna run these lights and cut these breaks.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
Oh you'll give me lunch and ste.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
No, it doesn't seal.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
Lord, you always take locking in. You always made me
me like I wanna take the lone tip on, not
like you got no no pastel, cold.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Your head, damn mom for the winds down.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
That's a sun raise to.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
Its wins all.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Where's you tell me now?
Speaker 5 (17:02):
I want to take.
Speaker 8 (17:09):
So now?
Speaker 6 (17:10):
What's the Russia?
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Say?
Speaker 6 (17:13):
Hello away they can last for ever?
Speaker 8 (17:17):
Story, let'st Russia take the loway think it last forever.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
I want to take the way.
Speaker 8 (17:31):
In trapone man that began long. Listen to the mom
the cars down.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
That's a song praising story my post.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Where's you tay now?
Speaker 7 (17:50):
I want to tell the bway.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
No, y'all could do better. Come on now, give it
up for Jamie one time?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Ah yeah, yess But okay because we don't get that
song in real life until Friday.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
And I didn't realize how hot it was the same live.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Man, you better practice du because you're can be seen
that song a lot.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Dog.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
It's telling you man, and you gave us like the
the take them the Church moment in there too.
Speaker 7 (18:27):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I don't know if y'all automatically felt like clapping your
hands a lot. You know what I'm saying to break man,
that is it's it's it's new for you.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
It's different for you. It does have that country energy
to it, but I mean it's where your heart is right.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Now, dude.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah, I just it just feels like this going into
this next chapter. Nothing's left on that like I've left
everything on the table.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
You left you, did you?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
How the kids saying he ate left no crumbs?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
You know? No?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
But all jokes aside.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Man, it's really amazing to hear the power in your voice,
but also the way that you caress the lyrics and
the this dude, it fits it fits perfect.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
Man.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
How exciting is it going to be for you too,
as challenging as it might be on your vocals, man,
to perform that song live for crowds across the planet.
You've already had sold out tour dates and stuff.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Before's it going to be?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Like we were just talking about like my next album tour,
and I was like, so excited. This is like just
like the music I've always wanted to make. There's no
one telling me like what to do, no one telling
me what like songs to create. This sold me and
I just feel like it's so special that I have
a team around me that believe in my vision. So
I'm very excited, dude, and like this stuff coming up
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that I'm just so excited.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
See there's stuff that he's basically giving me the eyes, Like,
there's stuff I'm excited about, but I'm not going to
talk about.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
No, don't say save it. We're gonna be here for it, man.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I want to cycle back a little bit in and
bring up some things that kind of have me thinking,
you know, reminiscing a bit of one of the last
times I was hearing the Dunkin Music Lounge with Jesse
McCartney and we talked about the fact that he hit
that corner in the kitchen to hang out with Jonathan
Tilken and Anthony. Also, so I'm gonna ask you, and
I've found this out for the first time when asking him,
(20:08):
that's a real kitchen, that's really their house.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
That's very Yeah, that's the house.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Did you go through the frigerator and see what they
had in the fridge of the cupboards?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
No, I did, But Anthony's one of my best friends. Yeah,
he's like one of the best things ever and he's
They're so amazing. And Jesse's also one of my best friends. Yeah. So,
like I think they're so talented and it's so cool
how they get to like sing other people's songs and
make other people have them rustle also having their own.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
So, but no, I didn't go through the fridge time.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Next time, I'm saying, yeah, the bristles snacks this way, dude.
And also another collab that he's a family friend of
ours here at Ze one hundred is Max and you
did a while back, had the chance to bring Lights
down Low a little collab with with him. What does
it mean to you to be able to have so
many friends and industry that you can bounce ideas off
of that you can learn from that you can collaborate
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with on social media or maybe on a tour and
watch this magic happen.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah, dude, And I think one like, it's just so
special to have a community of people that like just
support each other. I feel like normally the when you
hear stuff like that is like, oh, nah, they've got
paid to do that, or that's fake.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
And I was like, nah, they're just really genuine human beings.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
And I myself, I am a fan of Max and
Jesse and anything and Jonathan and I just think it's
so special that where he has a hype each other
up and I'll bring each other down, and there's a
space for everybody, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
So and with that, the last collab I want to
ask about is you've already I mean, this song was
was massive, here's your perfect but then adding Selim at
least to it?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah Salem, yes, yeah, you know.
Speaker 10 (21:37):
What I mean.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
But yeah, So I wrote that song and my label
gave me like a list of artists and I was
just like it would be cool to have them, but
like it was also special to have someone who wrote
the song with me.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Yea and Salem is incredible.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
She also was like coming up with me at the time,
and I just thought it was just incredible to have
her and I asked her and she was like, I'm.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Darn is it easy like that, you know amongst the
artist community to you know what I'm saying, hit a
quick text message emails into am.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
I wish it was easier than that. Yeah, but this
team's involved balls and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
But I do have a very special collab on my album,
and it's my dream collab I've prayed for since I
was twelve.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Serious.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
So you goes very full circle moment and I can't
tell you nothing yet, all right, so you gotta wait
till October eighteenth.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I'll tell you later.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
We get the inside scoop afterwards.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Lastly, we're hearing our dunkin Music Lounge and we love
to ask this question whatever we're hanging out with artists
here about maybe taking that time away.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
It's a you know, a long road trip.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
But you know, you're like, man, I want to sit
down and I got my ice coffee, you know, and
I want to have a conversation with a person. I
wanna share a nice you know, cold ice coffee with
and maybe pick their brain a little bit.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Or you know, learn something.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Who would be that artist friend, maybe dead or alive
that you would like to just have a conversation over
a duncan ice coffee with anybody, Jamie, anybody.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I would say, Adele, Wow, Yeah, Dell's like just said deal, Aidel.
She's just yeah, She's just I just love it.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
It's just all Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
What would mean to you to know that maybe you
are on her radar, that she is a fan of
your music just the same way that you are of
her and just her charismo.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
If I ever was on a raid that dude, I
don't think i'd be alive right now. What if I was,
I don't know. I think i'd freak out.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Damn. You see, I was hoping I was gonna be
the dream collab that he was gonna tell us about
it rad But yeah, I'd be like that.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, let's manifested, dude, sometime when it's meant to happen,
all right, seriously, No, thank you for taking the time, man,
Thank you for being you and growing with your sound
and with your songwriting and allowing us to be along,
you know, this journey with you and looking forward to
so much more to come the end of this year
and into twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Isn't it weird that we're talking about twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Years just saying down on the way here, like how
is this like what the actual.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Gosh man from our dunk and music lounge, Let's give
it up one more time, man round. Applause for JB. Miller.
Thanks for watching you all online. Appreciate you.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Peace.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah,