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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks to everybody that's in here in our dunkin Music
Lounge and those of you that are checking.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Us out online.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
We appreciate you spending your time with us and this
awesome conversation with someone who is Wow, dude, talented, beyond words, multiplatinum,
all the accolades that come along with who is gonna
stand or sit right next to me here in our
dunk music lounge.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Can we please give a round of applause? It's Rachel Platton.
Where are you at? Rachel? Can you hear me? Can
you hear me? Who have a sea relaxed to lou
You know what I mean? Wow? Wha?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
It doesn't still surprise you when people smile and clap
in and enjoy your presence in a room, does it?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
No? Im kidding?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I mean it's delightful. I have like two toddlers at home,
so it's like really nice when people are excited to
see me.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I mean, listen, You've been doing so many amazing things
for so long, and I want to start with where
your heart is now and how full it is at
this point in time in this chapter of your life.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
It's really full.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I feel a lot of joy and a lot of
gratitude right now for where I'm at.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, okay, so that's where we're creating or where this
album was created, was from a place where you really
felt dare I say the word whole?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah? Integrated.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yeah, that's a great way to say it. Yeah, I mean,
I think like I went through a lot. I've talked
a lot about it, and after kind of looking at
all the dark and looking in there and processing all
the stuff, all the stuff that we push aside, you know,
after looking at it all and using songwriting to kind
of like explore it and transmute all that pain into art,
(01:39):
I feel really integrated is the right way to say it,
I think, because like I'm no longer like pushing down
the bad and just trying to be empowering fights on girl.
I'm just kind of like that was just one side
of me and really proud that it was in the world,
and I'm really proud to be.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Known for it.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
But there's a lot more to me, and I think
it's cool to get to on this record like share.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
All of that.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
That's a word that I was going to use later
on in our convo is is proud and pride and
finding that sense of self now and to be brave
enough to put those words to songs and speak them
and sing them and watch crowds across the globe connect
to them. As a songwriter, how powerful is that energy
when you step out there on stage and you see like, wow,
(02:20):
this is connecting.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
It's amazing. I don't think it ever gets old, like
even you know, even if you had hits, it's still
like when you put a new body of workout, it's
still vulnerable. It's still the core of an artist. Of like, man,
I hope what is so important to me resonates with
other people. And even if I have a song called
set Me Free where I basically I don't give up
what you think about me, of course, there's a part
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of me that feels that. And then there's also a
part of me that deeply wants to know that like
my vulnerability and my deepest truths are seen and heard,
and I hope that there that I can be of
service in that way. And so it means so much
to see now audience's resident with the new stuff and
like singing them back to me. It's so it's it'll
never get all.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
No, It's one of those things where you want you
want to chase that, you want to continue to do that,
not because it's something that helps fill your tank, but
because you see how it fills others tank as well.
I wish I could write a song. I wish I
could feel that feeling also.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I think you feel it though, because you get to
communicate in another way, right and like and bring joy
to people through communication. I mean, there's so many ways
to be of service in the world through entertainment. And like,
I've just learned more and more lately that songwriting is
what I'm here to do.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
That's your superpower.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
It's my superpower. It's it's all. It's like my passion.
It's what I'm obsessed with. And I live and breathe songwriting.
And I just am so proud that. Yeah, proud again.
I'm just so proud that I get to use it to.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Help you did so much as to entitle this album
I am Rachel Platten. What what does that mean? What
does that title mean for these songs in particular?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, Well, as I kind of touched on I think
before maybe the world knew this one part of me
and it was a very empowered, hopeful side. And that
is real and that is true and that is who
I am, But there was always more, and I didn't
know if it was necessarily safe to share the other stuff.
(04:18):
I didn't know if people would want any kind of
like pain or trauma or darkness from the Fight Song girl.
And I was always kind of like, well, let me
just continue to keep my fist in the air and
like and smile and act grateful so that I can
keep this thing that I've worked so hard for because
I don't know if you know, but I mean, you
probably have it on your scheet. But I've spent you know,
a long time, thirteen years touring around the country in
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a van, selling CDs out of my suitcase to build
up to finally having Fight Song explode, And so I
didn't want it to go away. And so I was like,
all right, let me just continue to double down on
this thing and then be what my label told me
I needed to be, and like be what I thought
other pop stars were supposed to be, like confess.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
This for not a character, but conformed to this way
singular versions exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
And what happened on this record was quite the opposite.
I mean, I didn't really consider in my head at
all what other people might need from me. It was
so much about what do I need? And the songwriting
was such a personal journey. It was so healing, and
it was so therapeutic, and it was so empowering just
for me. It was so necessary, It was so necessary.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah. Yeah, you started the album with the right there
we go.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
To get to that problem.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I'll be Her is the is the lead track, and
I mean it really talks to you know, being deeply
rooted in these feelings and these emotions to go through
that journey to to as you mentioned before, you know,
seek therapy and and be willing to reach those dark
spaces so that way you can find healing in them
and then bring them to life.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah. I just gotta.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Say, I don't know fun is the right word, but
now that you were well in the sense that, like,
how cool is it to know that you can reach
those places and then bring them and show you know,
the strength in being able to go there and to come.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Out on the other hand, it's honestly the best. Yeah,
it's the best. And I think that at my heart,
I like to tell stories and like to share parts
of myself, and I like to be vulnerable, and I
do like to explore stuff that is kind of scary
to talk about. I don't know what bone I have
missing in my mind like body that I don't get
that embarrassed about sharing really vulnerable stuff. But it is
(06:28):
fun for me, and therapy is fun for me. My
thep's always like no one else shows up excited. Do
you guys like therapy?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah? You do?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
You like it? You like it too?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Me too.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I love it. I think it's the best. I get
so excited, So I do think it's fun. I'm doubling down.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
You're doubling down. Awesome, got's go.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
We're supposed to We're supposed to work that mental health
muscle the same way that we wake up and do
push ups if you go to the gym in the morning,
or your ag or run and do those other things.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I feel off and I went I wake up and
if I don't take care of my mind and my
body and my soul, like I have to feed all
of it in order to show up and be just
okay for the day, for my kids, for life. Like
I think that I didn't realize that there was nothing
wrong with me in that way before that, Like, yeah,
we all kind of I don't know or that it's
(07:18):
a muscle, I think is a better way to say it.
I didn't realize that it was a muscle and that
like it's okay if I don't wake up with that
joy or that like not joy because it's not every
day is not joyful, but just that okayness in myself,
that acceptance of myself. Yeah, and I kind of thought
that I didn't realize that I had to work to
get there.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
You know, we all have to.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
It's anybody who's watching this, anyone who's in the room
with us here, just yeah, understand that. I mean, I
love that now we're in the space where we're able
to talk about that.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
You know, let's go back five.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Ten, you know, fifteen years where mental health awareness and
speaking to therapists or getting that help was a little
bit taboo, and now we're in a space where we
have people who have been there successfully learning more about
them and then turning this into a whole embraced sing
along at.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
A concert or put in the songs.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I mean, it's just you're helping so many people, whether
you know it or not, just by what you do.
So thank you seriously on behalf of anybody and everybody
who's been going through it. One of the things that
I did jot down here is that you you were
having the feelings like loads of success, but still felt
a little unfulfilled. You know, what is what is that
like to you know, kind of be in that space
(08:27):
because from the outside looking in, it does seem like
everything is going off, you know, Honckey Dori, and it's
it's fine, but you know, having to work through that.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, what is that like? Yeah? You mean after my
first record? Yeah, yeah, Oh gosh, I feel like we've
all had tastes of it where we have something that
we set as a goal and we're like, well, if
I get this thing, I'll be okay, you know, I'll
feel better about myself that like constant feeling of disease
will go away as soon as I achieve this thing.
(09:00):
And I don't think it's just artists. I think it's
all human because anything to be out of the moment,
you know, like, and I just yeah, I mean, I
don't know. I'd had this dream for so long, I
chased for so long. I worked so incredibly hard, and
like I said, I was touring all around the country
and playing in living rooms and bars, and like just
really like doing everything I could in service of this
(09:23):
one idea, because I thought, well, I think at the
heart of it was, I like, I want to be
of service. I love songwriting. I'm a songwriter and I
want to share. But when I got there and when
I finally like got everything i'd wanted.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Didn't feel no full well no.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
But I think that looking back, probably most of the
reason why not is because of what we said in
the beginning, that like I was then trying to conform
and change myself into something that could keep it, you know, like,
oh God, you know, now I have to act like
famous or something, or now I have to like be
really skinny and like wear shorts girts are like I
have to spray tnds all the time and get botox.
(10:03):
Like I'm not that. I'm like a hippie at heart.
And I didn't like any of that shit. So I
didn't know, and my music kind of changed. I don't know.
I just I feel like I lost myself and I'm
really proud to have found myself again.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
It's the best creating from that true sense of self.
Is another reason why the songs will forever continue to connect,
is I think now more than ever. As fans, we
listen to music and we want that authenticity, you know,
whether or not it's a it's just a running up
the charts bop, you know, pop song, but it comes
from that person's cheue energy or for something that's really introspective.
(10:36):
We're connecting because there are so many different things that
we can pull from and places we can go for
what it is we're choosing to be aligned with that
real and and.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
That's what you're giving. You're giving that reel right now.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Thank you so much. I'm craving it. I don't know
if you guys are. I'm craving more authenticity and realness
from like all of social media and all of entertain
and I just personally want it. Could be that I'm old.
I don't know, I just I just like I'm just
so done with I don't know, I'm just so done
with like the pretending it's that just I'm a look
allergic to the superficial. And I know there's places for it,
(11:13):
and like that's fun and my daughters and I bop
out to stuff in the car and like it's super fun.
Not everything needs to be so deep. But at the
same time, I personally am hungry for it and looking
for it more and more, and so I chased it
and I wanted it.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Let's talk about the sounds of this album, because there
are just like some you know, there's some pop. You know,
there is some ballads, but there's like some blues and
R and B and you know, I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
There's there's all of that. Where do all of these
sounds come from?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Where did you find you know, these different genres to
make Rachel Plattin's very own.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, I think some of them are surprising. I think
some of the influences feel for my fans and for
the public, it's like, whoa, you took a turn on this? Well,
that's what I listened to. Honestly, I listened to a
lot of gospel music, a lot of Americana and folks
and like a lot of indie rock, and I it's
just what I like. I actually don't listen to pop music.
So it's so funny that I was that I was
(12:07):
in the pop market. I wasn't what I was listening
to personally, So it's so it's a it's what I've
listened to, and then be my mom's from Tennessee. I
have southern roots. I made the record in Nashville. And wait,
by the way, someone will fact check me. My mom
did grow up in New Jersey, but she's originally Yeah,
(12:27):
so I'm good. Yeah my my like grandma if whatever.
Shut up. So anyway, Yeah, so I'm Southern quarter or
son and I and I think that I don't know,
I just I think, like I've said it a lot,
but I think right now what I'm interested most in
(12:48):
is like the songwriter community in the songwriting world, less
than the pop, you know, popular stuff. And I am
hungry for those kind of organic sounds that fuse that
roots got bool blue stuff, and it is what I
grew up listening to, plus motown, And I just I
don't know. It wasn't so intentional like how I wrote
the songs for sure, some of them were by myself
(13:10):
in my studio and just on my piano, and I
was really intentional even when I co wrote them that
I didn't want anything produced by anyone. I just wanted
it vocal and piano the whole entire record.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Oh my gosh. Yeah, well that's yeah, that's it's aggressive. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Well, I just feel like you only know if you
have a good song if it's you and one instrument
and it's good. And also I've had I've had the
experience on my second record, Waves that I made on
Columbia of going into these songwriting sessions with like the
biggest songwriters and then them working up the song and
sending me there in you know, their production, and then
it felt like you can't say no to Ryan Tetter's
(13:46):
production of your song, but it might not be what
Rachel Plattens sound is, you know. So I had all
these different people's sounds and I didn't have my own.
So that's why I really wanted to keep it just
piano and vocal and then figure out with producers only one,
you know, Like I have two producers who did the
whole entire record with me. We produced all together, right,
Jason Evigan, geon Stone and I. We went down to
(14:07):
Nashville and we took three weeks and we got the
best band possible. We have Aaron Stirling on the drums and.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
You guys just like hunker down in an apartment somewhere.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Jason's Holson East Nashville, and we got the band behind
Golden Hour and they were just amazing and like getting
to explore and bring them just my piano vocal songs.
Then we could create together what is the sound, and
I could lead the band like I used to back
in New York City and like it was just so good,
and then it naturally kind of came together to sound
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that way because those are the players. And I think
the best thing you can do as a producer is
just let talent shine.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Wow. No, that's that's that's truly powerful.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I mean to know that these you know, these ideas
just came from a natural spirit, you know. The I
was getting calm app vibes with with Bad with Bad Thoughts.
I wrote that down here on my note, but I
was like again Slow December was like, yeah, there's a yeah, yeah,
I mean, but to know that that's the space that
you're in and you were so able to let that
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bleed through the album.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, I didn't really have any judgment on what any
of it was. And honestly, with Bad Thoughts, it was
originally called Listen to this if You're having a panic attack,
which I thought was like a little heavy for spotifye
that climbing the charts person, but that was the intention.
I was like, well, I suffered with that and I
want to am through it and now I want to
like kind of reach a hand back into the darkness
(15:30):
and be like, hey, if you have anxiety and breath
work really helped me, let me kind of sneak it
into a pop song.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I'll tell you what fam on the train ride. Over
the past couple of days, I've been taking a deep
dive into the album. I don't know if you intended
for you know what I'm saying for a young black
man to shed tears on the a train, but damn,
I mean just because of all of the emotions that
you were hitting on. It was just like I'm sitting
there and I'm thinking to myself, this is really like
(15:57):
impressive stuff because it is finding its way into my life,
into connect and really like I'm thinking to myself, like
I use deep breathing exercises to you know, to help
call my nerves a little bit.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
And I'm like, WHOA, Okay, so track numbers like you
just nailed.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
It's it's really cool to know and have this conversation
that it's just who you were throughout this album and
it's resonating with me like that is.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
So that's so honest to hear. Thank you so much. Yeah,
I know, I can feel how really you're being. And
I think the thing about it is like this stuff
is human. It's not one gender or one race or
one age group. Like some people that interview me are like, oh,
so you wrote this for like white women going through
mid life crisis. I mean, actually no one has said that,
but like, but like I feel like that's and I'm like,
(16:43):
you know, yeah, you could say that, But the thing
is is that this is human stuff. We're living in
a really anxious time, yeah, and like every all of
us have anxiety, all of us are freaked out, all
of us are looking around and being.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Like are we okay?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
And I think there are artists that are incredible that
serve us to just lift us up and dance and
like forget it and get that stuff in that way.
I'm not one of them. I'm a songwriter and a
storyteller and I want to dress the dark and so
that's I think my job. And I think it's human,
you know. I think, like sadly, even teenagers and like
ten year olds and eleven year olds relate to bad thoughts.
(17:18):
I've gotten messages from moms being like my daughter has
panic attacks, she's in sixth grade. We listen to your
song Bad Thoughts, and she learned breathwork, and like, I
don't know, so I'm not surprised it reached you. I'm
really grateful it did, but like it was my intention
to reach you specifically.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Thank you. Yeah, I felt it.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
And the rock on Yeah shout out.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Let's talk Mercy.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
You just brought this song to life on GM frickin'
a yo. You know, as we as we look and
we see the you know, the stained glass windows and
and I'm even thinking about, you know, the big chorus
and and what's it like to see that particular song
or to feel that particular song live and in its element?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Man, that one is like also, I I've just noticed
that my whole team has left, and I'm wondering, is
that do you guys notice? Sorry I spore, Okay, singing
Mercy was Oh, it's the best, It's the best. I
love singing that one. I feel like some version of
(18:19):
me that I always wanted to be. Like, First of all,
I don't know if I don't need to be like
I don't need to brag because I'm not really that,
but man, I can sing.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I didn't know that I could sing.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I mean, yeah, I know, and I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
It wasn't like I'm like, I'm a songwriter and I was,
and I always think my voice is nice and I
can share songs that I write, but I can sing it.
And that came only after the birth of my daughter's like,
my voice changed. So if you go back and listen
to my records, you guys should do. I mean, you
don't have to, but we highly suggest the voice is different.
And I'm curious if the audience listening here is it too,
(18:54):
Like there's a soul and a depth and a I
think it's the same integration of the dark and light
that is also I just think that like pregnancy expand
in my ribcage, maybe my diaphragm drop. I don't fucking know,
but I something happened, but something happened. So when I
sing mercy and when I sing it on.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Feeling differently, yeah, o lord.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
And I don't know if you notice there's a church
backdrop on the because I really wanted to take people
to church. Yeah, I was doing it, nice Jewish girl
taking me to church. That's what I do.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Well, let's let's talk mom life a little tiny bit
here because yeah, I mean it's just it's a different
uh you know, like you said, it's a different sound,
it's a different feelies, different emotions being being a mom
and being that amazing example. What is that like to
not only be example for your very own but others
Looking down into the crowd and seeing moms and daughters,
(19:41):
dads and sons sing along and rock out to your songs.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
That's so cute. It's so sweet. My daughters are like,
my oldest is really not fan, but my youngest's she
rides hard for mom.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Like my oldest is like, I just know I want
Chappel Rohan and I'm like my youngest is like, no
way till wuatin. I'm like, that's what's up. So that's
what you're getting all my money?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Are you guys preparing for as we creep into a
spooky season like Halloween?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Do we have all that stuff set up? Are we
doing matching costumes? Are we doing group costumes?
Speaker 3 (20:09):
My husband and I just looked at each other and
we were like, we have to nail it this week. Year.
We sucked last year like nothing. We just like threw together.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
You know.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
It's so embarrassing. We threw together like we didn't plan anything.
So we just were like Truby Indiana Jones because we
have cowboy hats. I know, we suck. I know. Actually
that's not true. He was that I was a princess,
fairy queen something.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
There is no cohesion, no cohesion.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
No cohesion. And this year where de term is to
nail it. Oh but three two years ago, okay, we were.
Do you guys remember when like the Tiger Lady, the show.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Called Tiger King, Tiger King.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah, please put up in the video the picture of
my family. My dad was my dad, My husband was
the Tiger King.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I was Carol's okay, Carol Basket.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah, and my daughters were tigers and like.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
It was there we go. Let's get back to that energy.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Let's get back to that energy. Yeah, I'm gonna throw
it out there. I'm bringing this.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
If you guys do like a you know, I mean
double dare teams, you know what I mean, Red team,
Blue team, Oh, Nicola, that.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Could be a thing.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Is that back kind of sorta? I mean there's there's
always something awesome about nostalgia.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
You know, it would be great. If you guys added
into this lounge, let's go slime wow.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Uh right, man, I don't know if I'm gonna go
for that.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
I think they would goo. It could be goo.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
As we as we creep into again, not only Spooky Season,
but twenty twenty five, I want to look ahead as
we put a bow on this convoy. When are we
gonna or are we going to get these these songs
on a stage? Are we hitting cities across the country?
Are we starting to think about how a live show
and a tour is gonna play out.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Exactly where I'm at. I'm like trying to put it
all together now, and yeah, we have plans. I'm gonna
head out in twenty twenty five early twenty twenty five,
January and February March, and we're getting all those dates
set right now, so the tour will be announced pretty soon.
So keep up with me and come. I think they're
going to be you know, I reached out to my fans.
Actually I've never done this before, and I was like, no,
I mean I've reached out to them.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, but I I was like, no, I don't talk
to are they.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
And I was like how do you guys want to
experience this record? Because this record feels a little different.
You know, this isn't like a big like whip up
the mac truck and like bring it all in with
heavy production, Like this is making you feel deeply. I'm
hearing from you guys that, like you said, you're crying
and you're feeling and this is giving you permission to
feel things you might not have felt before, and how
do you want to experience it? And almost overwhelmingly all
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of them were like please, small venues, please sit down please,
Like I was like, tissues, you guys make shshoes, They're like,
and I was like, you want journals, yeah please, yeah,
like rugs, candles, time to connect. We're gonna like talk
a little. I'm gonna tell stories behind the songs. I'm
gonna go with the cello and my drummer Craig, and
(22:47):
like I think that we're gonna keep it pretty intimate
for this first one and then we'll go with the
bigger proper.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Because you're gonna need the space in these venues because
people are gonna be mad that you're only making it
available for like three thousand fans, Like there's gonna be Yeah,
you're gonna need more seats.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, so yeah, we'll scale.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I don't know. I mean I haven't toured in a minute.
Like they I don't know if they'll be mad, They're.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Like, who Rachel, we are, Well, we're.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Gonna manifest that family.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Just one thing as you put this tour together, make
sure there is a choir with you when mercy comes
to life, because I just feel that.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Why do you know who that choir was? I had
with me yesterday? And then will Tabo on this conversation.
Oh yes see, I could be radio. Don't take my
job now. I like Tiago okay, Taylor Swift's backup singer
Melanie okay, and Beyonce's backup singer k and then my
dear friend Tiger whose plays to Cella. But like that
was my backup singers on Go Morney America yesterday. That's
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why they were so clutch.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Well, but here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
They're there for you because what you have done for
the music space which you have created as a singer songwriter.
Like people like that don't just show up, thank you,
just to be there.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
So let that be.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
So that's true. Yeah, they should have done other things.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
They could have done so many other things here in
New York City. They're there for you. Like the fans,
we will be there for you when this tour jumps off.
The album was are to hear already see these streaming
numbers going crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It's who you are. I mean you. You literally titled
it I Am Rachel what. Thank you for being you?
Thank you so much, no serious business, you guys.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Run these stream numbers up. Please do whatever you gotta do.
Run them up, because she is a true gym.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
But we all know that.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
So one more time, can we give her around applause
here on our Duck and Music Lounge.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, thank you guys, and thanks to my team for
coming back and super appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Hey you guys, Peace out.
Thanks to everybody that's in here in our dunkin Music
Lounge and those of you that are checking.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Us out online.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
We appreciate you spending your time with us and this
awesome conversation with someone who is Wow, dude, talented, beyond words, multiplatinum,
all the accolades that come along with who is gonna
stand or sit right next to me here in our
dunk music lounge.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Can we please give a round of applause? It's Rachel Platton.
Where are you at? Rachel? Can you hear me? Can
you hear me? Who have a sea relaxed to lou
You know what I mean? Wow? Wha?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
It doesn't still surprise you when people smile and clap
in and enjoy your presence in a room, does it?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
No? Im kidding?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I mean it's delightful. I have like two toddlers at home,
so it's like really nice when people are excited to
see me.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I mean, listen, You've been doing so many amazing things
for so long, and I want to start with where
your heart is now and how full it is at
this point in time in this chapter of your life.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
It's really full.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I feel a lot of joy and a lot of
gratitude right now for where I'm at.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, okay, so that's where we're creating or where this
album was created, was from a place where you really
felt dare I say the word whole?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah? Integrated.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yeah, that's a great way to say it. Yeah, I mean,
I think like I went through a lot. I've talked
a lot about it, and after kind of looking at
all the dark and looking in there and processing all
the stuff, all the stuff that we push aside, you know,
after looking at it all and using songwriting to kind
of like explore it and transmute all that pain into art,
(01:39):
I feel really integrated is the right way to say it,
I think, because like I'm no longer like pushing down
the bad and just trying to be empowering fights on girl.
I'm just kind of like that was just one side
of me and really proud that it was in the world,
and I'm really proud to be.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Known for it.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
But there's a lot more to me, and I think
it's cool to get to on this record like share.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
All of that.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
That's a word that I was going to use later
on in our convo is is proud and pride and
finding that sense of self now and to be brave
enough to put those words to songs and speak them
and sing them and watch crowds across the globe connect
to them. As a songwriter, how powerful is that energy
when you step out there on stage and you see like, wow,
(02:20):
this is connecting.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
It's amazing. I don't think it ever gets old, like
even you know, even if you had hits, it's still
like when you put a new body of workout, it's
still vulnerable. It's still the core of an artist. Of like, man,
I hope what is so important to me resonates with
other people. And even if I have a song called
set Me Free where I basically I don't give up
what you think about me, of course, there's a part
(02:43):
of me that feels that. And then there's also a
part of me that deeply wants to know that like
my vulnerability and my deepest truths are seen and heard,
and I hope that there that I can be of
service in that way. And so it means so much
to see now audience's resident with the new stuff and
like singing them back to me. It's so it's it'll
never get all.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
No, It's one of those things where you want you
want to chase that, you want to continue to do that,
not because it's something that helps fill your tank, but
because you see how it fills others tank as well.
I wish I could write a song. I wish I
could feel that feeling also.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I think you feel it though, because you get to
communicate in another way, right and like and bring joy
to people through communication. I mean, there's so many ways
to be of service in the world through entertainment. And like,
I've just learned more and more lately that songwriting is
what I'm here to do.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
That's your superpower.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
It's my superpower. It's it's all. It's like my passion.
It's what I'm obsessed with. And I live and breathe songwriting.
And I just am so proud that. Yeah, proud again.
I'm just so proud that I get to use it to.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Help you did so much as to entitle this album
I am Rachel Platten. What what does that mean? What
does that title mean for these songs in particular?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, Well, as I kind of touched on I think
before maybe the world knew this one part of me
and it was a very empowered, hopeful side. And that
is real and that is true and that is who
I am, But there was always more, and I didn't
know if it was necessarily safe to share the other stuff.
(04:18):
I didn't know if people would want any kind of
like pain or trauma or darkness from the Fight Song girl.
And I was always kind of like, well, let me
just continue to keep my fist in the air and
like and smile and act grateful so that I can
keep this thing that I've worked so hard for because
I don't know if you know, but I mean, you
probably have it on your scheet. But I've spent you know,
a long time, thirteen years touring around the country in
(04:40):
a van, selling CDs out of my suitcase to build
up to finally having Fight Song explode, And so I
didn't want it to go away. And so I was like,
all right, let me just continue to double down on
this thing and then be what my label told me
I needed to be, and like be what I thought
other pop stars were supposed to be, like confess.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
This for not a character, but conformed to this way
singular versions exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
And what happened on this record was quite the opposite.
I mean, I didn't really consider in my head at
all what other people might need from me. It was
so much about what do I need? And the songwriting
was such a personal journey. It was so healing, and
it was so therapeutic, and it was so empowering just
for me. It was so necessary, It was so necessary.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah. Yeah, you started the album with the right there
we go.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
To get to that problem.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I'll be Her is the is the lead track, and
I mean it really talks to you know, being deeply
rooted in these feelings and these emotions to go through
that journey to to as you mentioned before, you know,
seek therapy and and be willing to reach those dark
spaces so that way you can find healing in them
and then bring them to life.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah. I just gotta.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Say, I don't know fun is the right word, but
now that you were well in the sense that, like,
how cool is it to know that you can reach
those places and then bring them and show you know,
the strength in being able to go there and to come.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Out on the other hand, it's honestly the best. Yeah,
it's the best. And I think that at my heart,
I like to tell stories and like to share parts
of myself, and I like to be vulnerable, and I
do like to explore stuff that is kind of scary
to talk about. I don't know what bone I have
missing in my mind like body that I don't get
that embarrassed about sharing really vulnerable stuff. But it is
(06:28):
fun for me, and therapy is fun for me. My
thep's always like no one else shows up excited. Do
you guys like therapy?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah? You do?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
You like it? You like it too?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Me too.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I love it. I think it's the best. I get
so excited, So I do think it's fun. I'm doubling down.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
You're doubling down. Awesome, got's go.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
We're supposed to We're supposed to work that mental health
muscle the same way that we wake up and do
push ups if you go to the gym in the morning,
or your ag or run and do those other things.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I feel off and I went I wake up and
if I don't take care of my mind and my
body and my soul, like I have to feed all
of it in order to show up and be just
okay for the day, for my kids, for life. Like
I think that I didn't realize that there was nothing
wrong with me in that way before that, Like, yeah,
we all kind of I don't know or that it's
(07:18):
a muscle, I think is a better way to say it.
I didn't realize that it was a muscle and that
like it's okay if I don't wake up with that
joy or that like not joy because it's not every
day is not joyful, but just that okayness in myself,
that acceptance of myself. Yeah, and I kind of thought
that I didn't realize that I had to work to
get there.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
You know, we all have to.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
It's anybody who's watching this, anyone who's in the room
with us here, just yeah, understand that. I mean, I
love that now we're in the space where we're able
to talk about that.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
You know, let's go back five.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Ten, you know, fifteen years where mental health awareness and
speaking to therapists or getting that help was a little
bit taboo, and now we're in a space where we
have people who have been there successfully learning more about
them and then turning this into a whole embraced sing
along at.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
A concert or put in the songs.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I mean, it's just you're helping so many people, whether
you know it or not, just by what you do.
So thank you seriously on behalf of anybody and everybody
who's been going through it. One of the things that
I did jot down here is that you you were
having the feelings like loads of success, but still felt
a little unfulfilled. You know, what is what is that
like to you know, kind of be in that space
(08:27):
because from the outside looking in, it does seem like
everything is going off, you know, Honckey Dori, and it's
it's fine, but you know, having to work through that.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, what is that like? Yeah? You mean after my
first record? Yeah, yeah, Oh gosh, I feel like we've
all had tastes of it where we have something that
we set as a goal and we're like, well, if
I get this thing, I'll be okay, you know, I'll
feel better about myself that like constant feeling of disease
will go away as soon as I achieve this thing.
(09:00):
And I don't think it's just artists. I think it's
all human because anything to be out of the moment,
you know, like, and I just yeah, I mean, I
don't know. I'd had this dream for so long, I
chased for so long. I worked so incredibly hard, and
like I said, I was touring all around the country
and playing in living rooms and bars, and like just
really like doing everything I could in service of this
(09:23):
one idea, because I thought, well, I think at the
heart of it was, I like, I want to be
of service. I love songwriting. I'm a songwriter and I
want to share. But when I got there and when
I finally like got everything i'd wanted.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Didn't feel no full well no.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
But I think that looking back, probably most of the
reason why not is because of what we said in
the beginning, that like I was then trying to conform
and change myself into something that could keep it, you know, like,
oh God, you know, now I have to act like
famous or something, or now I have to like be
really skinny and like wear shorts girts are like I
have to spray tnds all the time and get botox.
(10:03):
Like I'm not that. I'm like a hippie at heart.
And I didn't like any of that shit. So I
didn't know, and my music kind of changed. I don't know.
I just I feel like I lost myself and I'm
really proud to have found myself again.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
It's the best creating from that true sense of self.
Is another reason why the songs will forever continue to connect,
is I think now more than ever. As fans, we
listen to music and we want that authenticity, you know,
whether or not it's a it's just a running up
the charts bop, you know, pop song, but it comes
from that person's cheue energy or for something that's really introspective.
(10:36):
We're connecting because there are so many different things that
we can pull from and places we can go for
what it is we're choosing to be aligned with that
real and and.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
That's what you're giving. You're giving that reel right now.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Thank you so much. I'm craving it. I don't know
if you guys are. I'm craving more authenticity and realness
from like all of social media and all of entertain
and I just personally want it. Could be that I'm old.
I don't know, I just I just like I'm just
so done with I don't know, I'm just so done
with like the pretending it's that just I'm a look
allergic to the superficial. And I know there's places for it,
(11:13):
and like that's fun and my daughters and I bop
out to stuff in the car and like it's super fun.
Not everything needs to be so deep. But at the
same time, I personally am hungry for it and looking
for it more and more, and so I chased it
and I wanted it.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Let's talk about the sounds of this album, because there
are just like some you know, there's some pop. You know,
there is some ballads, but there's like some blues and
R and B and you know, I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
There's there's all of that. Where do all of these
sounds come from?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Where did you find you know, these different genres to
make Rachel Plattin's very own.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, I think some of them are surprising. I think
some of the influences feel for my fans and for
the public, it's like, whoa, you took a turn on this? Well,
that's what I listened to. Honestly, I listened to a
lot of gospel music, a lot of Americana and folks
and like a lot of indie rock, and I it's
just what I like. I actually don't listen to pop music.
So it's so funny that I was that I was
(12:07):
in the pop market. I wasn't what I was listening
to personally, So it's so it's a it's what I've
listened to, and then be my mom's from Tennessee. I
have southern roots. I made the record in Nashville. And wait,
by the way, someone will fact check me. My mom
did grow up in New Jersey, but she's originally Yeah,
(12:27):
so I'm good. Yeah my my like grandma if whatever.
Shut up. So anyway, Yeah, so I'm Southern quarter or
son and I and I think that I don't know,
I just I think, like I've said it a lot,
but I think right now what I'm interested most in
(12:48):
is like the songwriter community in the songwriting world, less
than the pop, you know, popular stuff. And I am
hungry for those kind of organic sounds that fuse that
roots got bool blue stuff, and it is what I
grew up listening to, plus motown, And I just I
don't know. It wasn't so intentional like how I wrote
the songs for sure, some of them were by myself
(13:10):
in my studio and just on my piano, and I
was really intentional even when I co wrote them that
I didn't want anything produced by anyone. I just wanted
it vocal and piano the whole entire record.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Oh my gosh. Yeah, well that's yeah, that's it's aggressive. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Well, I just feel like you only know if you
have a good song if it's you and one instrument
and it's good. And also I've had I've had the
experience on my second record, Waves that I made on
Columbia of going into these songwriting sessions with like the
biggest songwriters and then them working up the song and
sending me there in you know, their production, and then
it felt like you can't say no to Ryan Tetter's
(13:46):
production of your song, but it might not be what
Rachel Plattens sound is, you know. So I had all
these different people's sounds and I didn't have my own.
So that's why I really wanted to keep it just
piano and vocal and then figure out with producers only one,
you know, Like I have two producers who did the
whole entire record with me. We produced all together, right,
Jason Evigan, geon Stone and I. We went down to
(14:07):
Nashville and we took three weeks and we got the
best band possible. We have Aaron Stirling on the drums and.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
You guys just like hunker down in an apartment somewhere.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Jason's Holson East Nashville, and we got the band behind
Golden Hour and they were just amazing and like getting
to explore and bring them just my piano vocal songs.
Then we could create together what is the sound, and
I could lead the band like I used to back
in New York City and like it was just so good,
and then it naturally kind of came together to sound
(14:37):
that way because those are the players. And I think
the best thing you can do as a producer is
just let talent shine.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Wow. No, that's that's that's truly powerful.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I mean to know that these you know, these ideas
just came from a natural spirit, you know. The I
was getting calm app vibes with with Bad with Bad Thoughts.
I wrote that down here on my note, but I
was like again Slow December was like, yeah, there's a yeah, yeah,
I mean, but to know that that's the space that
you're in and you were so able to let that
(15:07):
bleed through the album.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, I didn't really have any judgment on what any
of it was. And honestly, with Bad Thoughts, it was
originally called Listen to this if You're having a panic attack,
which I thought was like a little heavy for spotifye
that climbing the charts person, but that was the intention.
I was like, well, I suffered with that and I
want to am through it and now I want to
like kind of reach a hand back into the darkness
(15:30):
and be like, hey, if you have anxiety and breath
work really helped me, let me kind of sneak it
into a pop song.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I'll tell you what fam on the train ride. Over
the past couple of days, I've been taking a deep
dive into the album. I don't know if you intended
for you know what I'm saying for a young black
man to shed tears on the a train, but damn,
I mean just because of all of the emotions that
you were hitting on. It was just like I'm sitting
there and I'm thinking to myself, this is really like
(15:57):
impressive stuff because it is finding its way into my life,
into connect and really like I'm thinking to myself, like
I use deep breathing exercises to you know, to help
call my nerves a little bit.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
And I'm like, WHOA, Okay, so track numbers like you
just nailed.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
It's it's really cool to know and have this conversation
that it's just who you were throughout this album and
it's resonating with me like that is.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
So that's so honest to hear. Thank you so much. Yeah,
I know, I can feel how really you're being. And
I think the thing about it is like this stuff
is human. It's not one gender or one race or
one age group. Like some people that interview me are like, oh,
so you wrote this for like white women going through
mid life crisis. I mean, actually no one has said that,
but like, but like I feel like that's and I'm like,
(16:43):
you know, yeah, you could say that, But the thing
is is that this is human stuff. We're living in
a really anxious time, yeah, and like every all of
us have anxiety, all of us are freaked out, all
of us are looking around and being.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Like are we okay?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
And I think there are artists that are incredible that
serve us to just lift us up and dance and
like forget it and get that stuff in that way.
I'm not one of them. I'm a songwriter and a
storyteller and I want to dress the dark and so
that's I think my job. And I think it's human,
you know. I think, like sadly, even teenagers and like
ten year olds and eleven year olds relate to bad thoughts.
(17:18):
I've gotten messages from moms being like my daughter has
panic attacks, she's in sixth grade. We listen to your
song Bad Thoughts, and she learned breathwork, and like, I
don't know, so I'm not surprised it reached you. I'm
really grateful it did, but like it was my intention
to reach you specifically.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Thank you. Yeah, I felt it.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
And the rock on Yeah shout out.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Let's talk Mercy.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
You just brought this song to life on GM frickin'
a yo. You know, as we as we look and
we see the you know, the stained glass windows and
and I'm even thinking about, you know, the big chorus
and and what's it like to see that particular song
or to feel that particular song live and in its element?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Man, that one is like also, I I've just noticed
that my whole team has left, and I'm wondering, is
that do you guys notice? Sorry I spore, Okay, singing
Mercy was Oh, it's the best, It's the best. I
love singing that one. I feel like some version of
(18:19):
me that I always wanted to be. Like, First of all,
I don't know if I don't need to be like
I don't need to brag because I'm not really that,
but man, I can sing.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I didn't know that I could sing.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I mean, yeah, I know, and I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
It wasn't like I'm like, I'm a songwriter and I was,
and I always think my voice is nice and I
can share songs that I write, but I can sing it.
And that came only after the birth of my daughter's like,
my voice changed. So if you go back and listen
to my records, you guys should do. I mean, you
don't have to, but we highly suggest the voice is different.
And I'm curious if the audience listening here is it too,
(18:54):
Like there's a soul and a depth and a I
think it's the same integration of the dark and light
that is also I just think that like pregnancy expand
in my ribcage, maybe my diaphragm drop. I don't fucking know,
but I something happened, but something happened. So when I
sing mercy and when I sing it on.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Feeling differently, yeah, o lord.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
And I don't know if you notice there's a church
backdrop on the because I really wanted to take people
to church. Yeah, I was doing it, nice Jewish girl
taking me to church. That's what I do.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Well, let's let's talk mom life a little tiny bit
here because yeah, I mean it's just it's a different
uh you know, like you said, it's a different sound,
it's a different feelies, different emotions being being a mom
and being that amazing example. What is that like to
not only be example for your very own but others
Looking down into the crowd and seeing moms and daughters,
(19:41):
dads and sons sing along and rock out to your songs.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
That's so cute. It's so sweet. My daughters are like,
my oldest is really not fan, but my youngest's she
rides hard for mom.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Like my oldest is like, I just know I want
Chappel Rohan and I'm like my youngest is like, no
way till wuatin. I'm like, that's what's up. So that's
what you're getting all my money?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Are you guys preparing for as we creep into a
spooky season like Halloween?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Do we have all that stuff set up? Are we
doing matching costumes? Are we doing group costumes?
Speaker 3 (20:09):
My husband and I just looked at each other and
we were like, we have to nail it this week. Year.
We sucked last year like nothing. We just like threw together.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
You know.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
It's so embarrassing. We threw together like we didn't plan anything.
So we just were like Truby Indiana Jones because we
have cowboy hats. I know, we suck. I know. Actually
that's not true. He was that I was a princess,
fairy queen something.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
There is no cohesion, no cohesion.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
No cohesion. And this year where de term is to
nail it. Oh but three two years ago, okay, we were.
Do you guys remember when like the Tiger Lady, the show.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Called Tiger King, Tiger King.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah, please put up in the video the picture of
my family. My dad was my dad, My husband was
the Tiger King.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I was Carol's okay, Carol Basket.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah, and my daughters were tigers and like.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
It was there we go. Let's get back to that energy.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Let's get back to that energy. Yeah, I'm gonna throw
it out there. I'm bringing this.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
If you guys do like a you know, I mean
double dare teams, you know what I mean, Red team,
Blue team, Oh, Nicola, that.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Could be a thing.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Is that back kind of sorta? I mean there's there's
always something awesome about nostalgia.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
You know, it would be great. If you guys added
into this lounge, let's go slime wow.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Uh right, man, I don't know if I'm gonna go
for that.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
I think they would goo. It could be goo.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
As we as we creep into again, not only Spooky Season,
but twenty twenty five, I want to look ahead as
we put a bow on this convoy. When are we
gonna or are we going to get these these songs
on a stage? Are we hitting cities across the country?
Are we starting to think about how a live show
and a tour is gonna play out.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Exactly where I'm at. I'm like trying to put it
all together now, and yeah, we have plans. I'm gonna
head out in twenty twenty five early twenty twenty five,
January and February March, and we're getting all those dates
set right now, so the tour will be announced pretty soon.
So keep up with me and come. I think they're
going to be you know, I reached out to my fans.
Actually I've never done this before, and I was like, no,
I mean I've reached out to them.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, but I I was like, no, I don't talk
to are they.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
And I was like how do you guys want to
experience this record? Because this record feels a little different.
You know, this isn't like a big like whip up
the mac truck and like bring it all in with
heavy production, Like this is making you feel deeply. I'm
hearing from you guys that, like you said, you're crying
and you're feeling and this is giving you permission to
feel things you might not have felt before, and how
do you want to experience it? And almost overwhelmingly all
(22:26):
of them were like please, small venues, please sit down please,
Like I was like, tissues, you guys make shshoes, They're like,
and I was like, you want journals, yeah please, yeah,
like rugs, candles, time to connect. We're gonna like talk
a little. I'm gonna tell stories behind the songs. I'm
gonna go with the cello and my drummer Craig, and
(22:47):
like I think that we're gonna keep it pretty intimate
for this first one and then we'll go with the
bigger proper.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Because you're gonna need the space in these venues because
people are gonna be mad that you're only making it
available for like three thousand fans, Like there's gonna be Yeah,
you're gonna need more seats.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, so yeah, we'll scale.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I don't know. I mean I haven't toured in a minute.
Like they I don't know if they'll be mad, They're.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Like, who Rachel, we are, Well, we're.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Gonna manifest that family.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Just one thing as you put this tour together, make
sure there is a choir with you when mercy comes
to life, because I just feel that.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Why do you know who that choir was? I had
with me yesterday? And then will Tabo on this conversation.
Oh yes see, I could be radio. Don't take my
job now. I like Tiago okay, Taylor Swift's backup singer
Melanie okay, and Beyonce's backup singer k and then my
dear friend Tiger whose plays to Cella. But like that
was my backup singers on Go Morney America yesterday. That's
(23:38):
why they were so clutch.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Well, but here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
They're there for you because what you have done for
the music space which you have created as a singer songwriter.
Like people like that don't just show up, thank you,
just to be there.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
So let that be.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
So that's true. Yeah, they should have done other things.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
They could have done so many other things here in
New York City. They're there for you. Like the fans,
we will be there for you when this tour jumps off.
The album was are to hear already see these streaming
numbers going crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
It's who you are. I mean you. You literally titled
it I Am Rachel what. Thank you for being you?
Thank you so much, no serious business, you guys.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Run these stream numbers up. Please do whatever you gotta do.
Run them up, because she is a true gym.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
But we all know that.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
So one more time, can we give her around applause
here on our Duck and Music Lounge.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, thank you guys, and thanks to my team for
coming back and super appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Hey you guys, Peace out.
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