October 14, 2024: Ethan Sargent & Overreaction Monday

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the press Box with Marty Banister, the latest
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from the Reds and Buckeyes to the Bengals and Browns.
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
You know, I don't want to say we would have
been out of it if we had lost, but.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
We'd be We'd be scratching a clawn Bengals quarterback Joe
Burrow after last night's win in New York seventeen well
technically New Jersey seventeen to seven, as the Bengals escaped
the New York Giants last night in the Sunday night game.
Welcome to the press Box, Fox Sports nine eighty w
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with you here on this well. I guess it's welcome
to fall Monday, isn't it. It's it's here, overcast, chili,

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just a far cry from what we've been experiencing over
the last few weeks. But you have us to help
cheer you up on this Monday with you right up
at five o'clock, Kelly be alongside for the ride today.
We have a lot to get into in the program today.
We are hoping today we're trying to get this worked out.
He's trying to juggle the schedule to give us some time.
Andre not part of the Cleveland Indy Cleveland I know it,
Cleveland Guardians broadcast team is trying to juggle his schedule

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to give us some time this afternoon. Guardians open up
play in the America League Championship Series tonight in New York,
and we will try and get Andrea on. If we can't,
we'll maybe to reschedule that for you a little bit
later on, maybe tomorrow before they play game number two
of the series. So we're working on that right now.
Still waiting for Andrea to get his schedule arrange if
he can join us. He said he will, so hopefully

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we'll be able to do that during the program today.
Big week of shows coming up for you. Tomorrow, Tony
Gerderman will visit with us from Letterman's Row. We'll talk
about what happened and we'll get into this here coming
up shortly. What happened to Ohio State Saturday night in Eugene, Oregon.
B Guy suffered their first loss of the season. On Wednesday,
Bill Bender from the Sporting News visits with us. We'll

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just dive into college football in general. And on Thursday,
Anthony Cosenza from Black and Orange and Black Illustrated we'll
join us. We'll talk Bengals, and we're trying to get
a Browns because but for some reason, nobody from the
Browns wants to talk. I can't figure out why.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Shocking.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Well, we're trying to get that lined up though, before
u before the weekends, we'll have somebody on by Thursday,
I would think to talk about. Of course, the big
game coming up on Sunday in Cleveland, the Bengals and
the Browns. So there's a lot to get into with
all of that. Kelly, how was your weekend? Were you
busy over the weekend? Do anything special? Uh?

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, yeah, I actually went to the Renaissance Fair cool.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
How was that?

Speaker 2 (02:34):
It was good? It was fun, It's a good time.
It helped take my mind off of not the best
I mean, honestly, honestly, I liked what I liked what
the commanders did. I think obviously our defense still needs
some work. But also who who has stopped Derreck Henry yet?

Speaker 3 (02:51):
No one so no one join the crowd. What do
you want to get in line?

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, But I mean that was really I think the
game of the weekend in the well, everybody wanted to
see what the Commanders could do against Baltimore, and I
think they gave a pretty good account of themselves. Quite frankly,
I mean, what wasn't a touchdown final? Yeah, I mean, yeah,
they were right there, So give them credit for that.
But I think I think Baltimore will do our magnificent

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seven coming up on Thursday. But I think the Ravens
are starting to really kind of assert themselves that those
first two games were just well, okay, you can understand
losing at Kansas City the Raiders game, it just it
just kind of got away from at the end there.
But I think they have kind of established themselves as
may maybe the second best team in the NFL right now,

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certainly in the AFC. There's no question about that, no
question about that.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
And you have to remember they lost to Kansas City
by a toe.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Right right, Yeah, so they are that close to being
perhaps five and one right now. So that that's one
of the other topics we will dive into as we
roll along here. This afternoon. Of course, highwa of State.
The Sun did come up yesterday after the Buckeyes lost
in Oregon on Saturday night. There's a lot of discussion
about that. There's some interesting things and what's one of

(04:07):
our fan polls we have up for you today and
we're going to dive into that as well too for
you today. But there's some interesting discussions going on centering
on Ohio State's defense under Jim Knowles and what it
has not been able to do in big games, and
we're going to talk about that when we continue along
with our conversations about the Buckeyes and the loss on Saturday.
The interesting thing about it is you don't feel like

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the season is over now, whereas last year, if they
would have lost this game, your thoughts would have been
a little different right now because of the lack of
the additional teams in the College Football Playoff, Ohio State
runs the table. Well, I think they're gonna be in
the Big Ten Championship game if they run the table
the rest of the way out and probably see Oregon again.

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But even if they don't make it to the Big
Ten Championship game and went out, that is a possibility
that could happen the rest of the way out for
Ohio State. But at the same time, I would tend
to think if they went out, they'll get in to
the Big Ten championship game. But there is that possibility.
So an eleven and one, Ohio State is very much

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on a large team the College Football Playoff. Don't like to
say a question.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
About especially if the one is to Oregon.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah by one point on the road. Yeah, yeah, So
you can't really can't really take much away from that.
So but that's what the Buckeyes will be looking at again.
Losing on Saturday night in Eugene, and it was interesting listening.
I was driving back from the Ohio game at Central
Michigan on Saturday afternoon, and I don't know what what

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what the weather was like in the greater Dayton area
on Saturday night, but I drove back from Mount Pleasant, Michigan,
left about seven point thirty quarter eight and it rained
about as hard as I think I have seen it
rain certainly all summer long. Wow, from Mount Pleasant all
the way to about Toledo, which is about a three

(06:03):
hour drive, and I can tell you this that just
really backed up the decision by Major League Baseball to
move the Guardians game from Saturday night to Saturday afternoon,
so they were able to get that thing in all
the way around. But well, I tell you that that
rain was just it was amazing to me. I hadn't
seen it rain that hard and I don't know how long,
and it just it made the drive a very interesting

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on the way back. But on the way back I
listened to Paul Keels and Jim Leche on the Ohio
State Football Radio Network described the game and their reaction
to it was. I think where I think a lot
of Ohio State fans kind of find themselves right now. Yeah,
you were disappointed, but you still kind of think we're
gonna be okay, just that one loss. But there are

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some interesting things about it. As I said that, I
think are are worth discussing. We're gonna do all that
as the show rolls on Today, Baseball in about an hour,
Game two of the National League Championship Series takes place
between the New York Met to the Los Angeles Dodgers.
The Dodgers crushed the Mets in Game one nine to nothing,
so Game two comes up again at about four o'clock

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this afternoon. Will keep you updated on that throughout the program.
Did you see any of the highlights when the highlights
isn't the right word of the replay of Aiden Hutchison.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Oh, my goodness, I actually decided not to.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
I happened to stumble on it by mistake, and I
wish I hadn't. That's one of those where, I mean,
if you're on the TV side of things, you maybe
show it once and then don't show it anymore. Yeah,
that was gruesome, I mean just gruesome. It was along
the lines of Nick Chubb's injury last year. You show
it once and then you just file it away because

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you know what's going to be on social media everywhere afterwards.
But my goodness, was that gruesome? And what a loss
that is for Detroit because of the season they're having
right now and the season he's been having. They went
into Dallas yesterday and just dismantled the Cowboys, who are
an absolute mess right now, crushed them forty seven to nine,
and I think Detroit is kind of well again, this

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is a type of injury. I mean, we saw Cleveland
ast year bounce back from it. When you when you
have a player of that impact on your football team
or on any team, for that matter, they rally around
things like that. We'll see how the Lions handle list,
because Hutchinson is such a factor on the defensive line
and having such a great season, and the simple fact

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that when he went down, they just continue to pummel
the Cowboys, which said a lot. Yeah, and the fact
that he's out for at least six months at the
very least is hopefully you hope for a full recovery.
We mentioned Nick Chubble moment ago. It looks like he
will be ready to go on Sunday in the Battle

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of Ohio. I told you, I told you, didn't I
tell you that somebody who looked a lot like me
would say, he'll come out there and it's Batman uniform
or whatever they it is he wears, and he'll smash
a guitar. But the Browns offense will come out with him,
and that'll be the problem. That yesterday was abysmal and

(09:11):
you look at it and you go, oh, it was
twenty to sixteen, but the touchdown was a defensive score
on a black field goal. And Kevin Stefanski has already
said today that and he said it after the game
yesterday that Deshaun Watson is still our starting quarterback. He
gives us the best chance to win. And if that's
the case, then what does that tell you about Jamis Winston.

(09:35):
Because Deshaun Watson, I mean, let's face it is awful.
He's just awful. And I don't know if it's because
of the atmosphere surrounding him, everything that is part of
what he's at right now. Has his career just completely
rent run off the rails the year what he missed

(09:56):
a year and a half with a suspension and injury.
I mean, but it's just it's to me, it's somewhat
remarkable because of the ability that he had when you
saw him with Houston. I mean, those are some bad
Houston teams, but you watched him. And remember the Browns
weren't the only ones lining up to give this guy money.

(10:16):
Let's let's keep that in mind. There were Atlanta was
in line for him. There were a couple of others.
I think it wasn't Tampa. Might it might have been
New Orleans, I think, but I know Atlanta was in
the was in the running. But there were other teams
that wanted to give this guy money. Maybe not what
the Browns gave him, but they wanted to give him money,
but you look at him now and I don't think

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the Browns could give him away right now. Nope, And
so they are kind of stuck with this. I guess,
for lack of a better term, albatross, that he is
right now and Kevin Stefanski is steadfast. He's our guy,
He's our starter now. The general reaction, and I listened
to my friend Ken Carmen for a little bit this
morning on ninety two three the Fan in Cleveland, the

(10:59):
general consensus is is that this is a Kevin Stefanski's
call is this is this is from the front office,
This is Jimmy Haslam, this is Andrew Berry. You have
to start him because of what we're paying him, and
we can't be proven wrong in this. Well, you you've
already been proven wrong. That's done. I mean that's done.
You've you're one and five with an offense that can't

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move from here to across the street, and that's been
proven that this is this isn't the right guy. It
just isn't. So to me, to keep running this guy
out there just because of what you're paying him is absurdity,
because it's obvious it's turned the entire fan base against
against him. I think it's turned the entire fan base

(11:41):
against the team. Maybe not majority of the players, but
I think certainly the front office, certainly the haslms, they
just want this over with, get this. The general consensus
is get this guy out of here. Let's just end
this and move on. And Kevin Stefanski good soul, that
is he continues, They will hear from him later he

(12:03):
walked out of today's press conference. That was the first
question asked, and his answer was, he gives us the
best chance to win.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, that cannetens he can't be the case that. I mean,
he's obvious. For me, it's obvious that he is is
towing the company line like he is, and I think
part of that is him trying to protect his job
because Deshaun Watson is exactly the type of quarterback that
causes coaches to lose their jobs. He's like, this is

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this is a horror scenario for Kevin Stefanski. So his
best bet, it's not gonna be the cozy up to
Deshaun Watson to make sure he feels good about hisself.
Nobody feels good about Deshaun Watson right now. He has
to make sure that the front office, the ownership understands
that he is a guy that's gonna play ball with them,

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regardless of what they've given him to work with on
the field, because I can get I can tell you,
based on what I've seen in football teams that Jameis
Winston unless it's gonna give you almost the exact same
thing that you get from Deshaun Watson, might be a
little bit better because at least people like him right now,

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and right it's this is a this is about morale,
this is I guess this is not about it's the
Browns are not winning a lot of games this season.
But you should not be a detriment to the entire
team to keep this one guy under center. And that's
what's happening right now.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
There's no question that he is a detriment to whatever
is going on up there, and how that is not
being addressed to me is just remarkable. I mean, it
really is that you can just continue to roll this
guy out there and act like everything's going to be
okay when Nick Chubb comes back on Sunday. Now, as
I said, he will probably come back on Sunday and

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probably run for three hundred and ninety yards against the Bengals.
Because Cincinnati can't win in the AFC North, they can't
win in Cleveland, and Zach Taylor forgets how to coach
in AFC North games. All that being said, Cincinnati should
win on something because they're the better team right now.
And thank goodness, the defense decided to show up last night.
That was impressive. I mean, Sheldon Rankins and bj Hill

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difference makers, depth across the front, difference makers last night. Now, granted,
the Giants were without Devin Singletary, they were without elite neighbors.
I understand that. But in this day and age of
the NFL, you hold a team to seven points, that's
pretty dark. Good, Yeah, that's pretty dark, and you should win.
I mean, they had to hang on to win. It
had to get a couple of things finally go their way.

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The Chase Johnson fumble which rolled out of bounds. I
woke my dog up yelling when that happened, because that
happened a little bit after eleven o'clock last night. That
was Jeremy Hill all over again for me. But anyway,
we'll dive into that some other things to get into
interesting story popping up in the southeastern part of the
state in high school athletic there's a high school player

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suing his school district about being suspended because he says
it's costing him a potential nil contract. Welcome to the
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Speaker 2 (15:48):
I oh, you just were making the weather sound just
so delightful.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Well, hell yeah, I guess it makes it sound kind
of kind of draft. Hey, it's a great day, a
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Speaker 2 (16:22):
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Gone?

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No one's got a secret safe.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
There could there could be a secret safe out there.
But I mean it's bad if you listen to me
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Speaker 2 (16:33):
Introducing the latest in yacht rock. I do want to
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Speaker 3 (16:38):
It's a you say, we play Tuesday, good to trafficking
weather on the tens.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Exactly?

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Oh good? Yeah, I's got an autous thinking about those days.
College basketball preseason polls were out. The season starts in
about three weeks. The college basketball season Monday night, November
the fourth can is pick number one in the Associated
Press Top twenty five, followed by Alabama and two time
defending national champion Yukon. Alabama pick number two returns guards

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Mark Sears and Charon Stevenson. Yukon's trying to become the
first school since John Wooden's teams at UCLA to win
three straight national championships. Houston earned four first place votes,
just ahead of Iowa State. The Big Twelve can very
much like claim to being the best basketball league. In
America with the power that they have, Houston, Iowa State

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all in the top ten, Kansas, I mean, number one
team in the nation. It takes a second sometimes to
kind of figure out KA Kansas is in the Big twelve. Now,
Houston's in the Big twelve. Gonzaga is going to the
Pac twelve. Let me see if I get this right anyway,
And it's funny. I was thinking too during the break
about college football with all the realignment and all the

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things that have gone on so far this year, and
again Bill Bender will join us on Wednesday for our
friend from the Sporting News to talk about it. The
big game this week in the Big Ten is Nebraska.
Is Nebraska and Indiana. That's the big game this week. Well,
Ohio States off this week after they try to put
the pieces together from the loss in Eugene on Saturday night.

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But yeah, how about that, that's the That's the big
game this week, Indiana Nebraska.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
What is Ryan Day called his bye Week's defense improve
PROVEMN Week improven Week one of those right now?

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah, I don't know where this week falls into that,
but it is a it's a tough uh, it's a
tough bounce back. Week for me, but we'll get into
the Bengals. We'll get into the Browns a little bit too.
We kind of like kind of flow things as as
the topic rolls along. So we've kind of been hitting
on college football. So let's dive into what happens Saturday
night in Eugene. A couple of interesting things, interesting interesting

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stats I have uncovered about Jim Knowles's defense, which when
he was brought on to be Ohio States defensive coordinator,
he was brought on to rectify the issues of the
twenty one Michigan game where Michigan just boat raced Ohio
State and made it look easy against the Buckeye defense,
which did give up big plays in other games during

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the year. So Jim Knowles brought in from Oklahoma State
to tighten up the defense, to do the things that
he was And again, you think about it, at Oklahoma State,
they weren't exactly shutting the door on people at Oklahoma
State because those Big twelve games resembled Arena Football League games.
I mean, those scores always seemed to be forty five
to forty two, sixty one to thirty nine, so on

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and so on and so forth. But Jim Noles has
a reputation and had a reputation of being a guy
who could mold a shut down like you down defense. Okay,
so he was brought in for that. Since Jim Knowles
has been the defensive coordinated at Ohio State, the five
losses that Ohio State has suffered, Ohio State's opponents have

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not punted in the fourth quarter yet. Of those games,
the losses to Georgia, Michigan, the Satured Night lost to Oregon,
and the Georgia the Georgia Oregon losses, and the three
losses to Michigan, their opponents haven't pun it in the
fourth quarter and and in the twenty two Michigan game
they gave up five hundred and thirty yards.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
And forty five points.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
In the twenty two semi final loss to Georgia, they
gave up five hundred and thirty three yards and forty
two points. Last year to Michigan, they gave up three
hundred and thirty eight yards and thirty points, and Saturday
Night they gave up four hundred and ninety six yards
and thirty two points. In those four games, Jim Knowles's
bluck Eye's defense has allowed nineteen hundred yards and one

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hundred and forty nine points.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Sounds like Jim Knowles needs to be locked up for
that lockdown defense.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Well, I wouldn't go that far. They that's that's terrible.
That's it makes yeah, it makes you. It makes you
wonder is the scheme wrong? Are they what's going on
here to why they can't shut the door on anyone
their best opponents. They're going out and spanking around Marshall

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and Western Michigan and all these other happless teams. Yeah, yeah,
exactly so, but when it comes to these games, they're
not able to slam the door on these guys. And
I don't know if that's is that indicative of Jim Knowles.
Maybe he's good to a point, is it? And there's
been there's been some criticism of Ryan Day again because

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they came up short in another big game. And I
know there were some things that happened on Saturday night
that you kind of go back and look at and say, well,
if this would have happened, if that would have happened.
And you can really go back and look of the
five losses. Of those four losses, I think in every
one of them, you can pick out a point in
the game and go, well, if that happens for Ohio State,

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they win. You go back to the Michigan game of
twenty two. I think there were I mean, they end
up losing that by I think eighteen points, but at
one point it was close in the second half, and
I think Michigan there was a busted play. I think
we're at a high state defensive back fell down or
something along those lines, and Michigan converted into a touchdown
and the momentum just automatically turned and Michigan ran away

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and won the game. The Georgia game, of course, the
missfield goal at the end. If o Hive State makes
that field goal, I don't think anybody is in disagreement
with this. They would have crushed TCU in the championship game.
I don't think anybody argues that. Last year the game
at Michigan, Kyle McCord doesn't look directly at Marvin Harrison
Junior the entire way down the field and throws the

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pass into double coverage. Who knows. I mean, that's again,
as I'm saying, there's just one point Oregon on Saturday night.
Will Howard, why is he sliding down with whatever? What
was there five seconds left or whatever it was.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
It was absolutely a brain far brain lock.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yeah, those are I mean one play in each of
those games you can look at and say, well, if
this turns that way, Ohio State wins these games. But
I guess the point of this is you can't overlook
the fact that in these big games they're getting toasted
on defense, They're getting lit up. And I'm not sure

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where or why that's happening, but what's the line. Ball
don't lie, well, numbers don't lie either. Numbers don't lie
in this. This is a defense that in big games
just has not been able to come up big. And
now I know you'll say, well, they beat Notre Dame, Okay, fine,
but Notre Dame offensively is not These last four teams

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they played not even close. So that has to be
something I think you're going to have to kind of
keep an eye on and scrutinize down the stretch here.
Because Penn State as goofy as James Franklin can be.
They went out beat USC on Saturday. They can rally
to do it. Drew Aller looks much better than he

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was last year. A quarterback. He struggled in the first half,
but you have to admire his maturity to come back
in the second half and turn it around. Now, Curtis Rourke,
who is quarterback at Indiana, is a very good quarterback.
But Indiana on the whole, by the time they roll
in the Columbus on whatever it is, November the eighteenth,
or whatever the heck, they think it's the eleventh game

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of the season, they're not going to beat Ohives They
don't have that kind of talent. They can command at
nine to one Indiana, but they're not gonna They're not
going to beat Ohives State. They're just not that level yet.
Great start, Kurt Signety's doing a great job at that program,
but they're not that level yet. And again, quite frankly,
from what I've seen to this juncture, despite what happened

(24:46):
on Saturday night in Eugene, I think Ohio State is
still better than Michigan. So but the question will be
I think I think the season comes down right now
for this team to that game on November the second instance. College.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, yeah, that's definitely a factor. But because of this loss, now,
what the other teams do has the matter to Ohio State.
I mean, if you went out, You're you're in. I
don't think anyone can deny that. Now you have to
consider who other teams have lost to to see where
you're gonna end up in this playoff.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, what Saturday did. And I was listening as I said,
I was driving back and listening to the Ohio State
Radio Network broadcast and they have ross Byorka on at half,
the Ohio State Director of Athletics, and his comment I
thought was very interesting. He was asked about the importance
of the game. Whereas in past years it was kind
of a play out game. You lost and you pretty

(25:43):
much played yourself out of the playoff. He said this
game was more of a game for seeding than anything else. Yeah. Yeah,
and he's not wrong. Yeah, he's not wrong. Because if
Ohio State, as they did, they lost, what it does
do is it does lower the I guess, your area

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of ability to take another loss. If they lose one
more game, which I don't think they will, they can't,
but if they do, but if they do happen to
lose one more game in the regular season, then I
think Ohio State at ten and two, they suddenly kind

(26:24):
of fall into that into the position where I think
they still get in. But what happens to them is
they have to go on the road.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
They're on the road exactly.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
They're gonna be a five seed. They're gonna be a
six seed or lower fixer seven because five is at twelve.
Six is a six. Hosts eleven, seven, hosts ten to eight,
hosts nine. They'll be in that seven to eight argument
with two losses. So that's what Saturday did. But if
they don't fix these issues on defense, it's not gonna matter.

(26:53):
It's not going to matter where you're seated, because at
some point you're going to run back into Dylan Gabriel,
or you're going to run into Alabama, or you're going
to run into Georgia. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
I DJed that night at a bar playing the game
when they lost. Let me tell you, they sucked the
energy out of that room. It took me two hours
to get the party started after that. So I was
mad for a lot of reasons.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
So you were mad for a lot of reasons. You
hurt Kelly's checkbook up on Saturday Night, Black Guys, the
heck all right? Three thirty one, we continue along the
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Speaker 1 (27:33):
Get on the press box called Marty Now at nine
to three seven by three one six, one seven zero
the press box on Fox Sports nine eighty wn E and.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Welcome back here to the show three thirty five as
a time as we roll on with you here on
this Monday afternoon, it's the press box with your right
up into five o'clock. Still to come, we'll hear comments
from Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow. We will also hear from
Brown's coach Kevin Stefanski, and also as well too. There's
an interesting story, as we mentioned, kind of unveiling itself
in the southeastern part of the state, and we're gonna
talk a little bit about that coming up here in

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a little bit. There's a high school athlete who has
been suspended for various and sundry reasons. That's really not
the important part of this. The fact that he has
been suspended is. But he is suing his school district
over the suspension because he says and his family say
that it's hurting his ability to make money in the

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future in nil because coaches can't see him play right now.
So we're gonna talk about that coming up a little
bit later on. So I have an interesting look at
again that we're in that. As I said, we're in
that brave new world of nil and what it means
to well just about everybody right now.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
I have strong feelings about that, very strong.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
We're well good, We're gonna get it later on, and
you can voice your strong feelings all you want. We
have a couple of fan polls up for you this
afternon We have really got into either one of the polls,
but here they are for you today. We're asking what
did Ohio State's loss to Oregon Saturday and night tell
you about the Buckeyes they are deal with defensive issues.
Ryan Day simply can't win a big game, and that
criticism is out there. Believe me, it's out there. It's okay,

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it's a long season. Or the Ducks are better than
we thought. I thought that would get some votes, but
apparently they didn't impress Ohio State fans that has not
received a vote yet that the Ducks were better than
we thought. The question or the choice that's getting the
most responses right now is the bluck guy still have
defensive issues? Fifty six percent go that way. Thirty one

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percent say Ryan Day still can't win a Big Game.
Thirteen percent say it's all right. It's a long season.
Still games to play. Bluckys have a bye week this week,
and then the stretch drive towards the Big Ten Championship
game begins. Or other fan poll today deals with the
Cleveland Guardians. They open up the American League Championship Series
tonight at New York against the Yankees. We're asking you
how does that series go? Yankees win in five to six,

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Yankees in seven, Guardians win in five to six games,
or Guardians win in seven, and right now, Guardians win
in five to six games? Is getting forty four percent
the vote I mentioned earlier. I was in Mount Pleasant,
Michigan Saturday, calling the Ohio football game, the mobcast road
victory over Central Michigan twenty seven to twenty five. And

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our game started at four o'clock in Mount Pleasant, and
at one o'clock is the first pitch of the baseball
game in Cleveland. And there were, as you might well imagine,
Central Michigan, there were a truckload of Tigers fans there,
and the booth next to us housed the Central Michigan

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broadcast crew. Adam Jackson, who does a great job calling
Central Michigan football and basketball, and they have a crew
of about five or six guys in the booth. We
do it the condensed way to myself and my friend
Rob Cornelius, who is the color partner color broadcaster. I
set up all the equipment. Rob shows updose the games.
That's how we do it. Well, they had like five

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or six people in their booth and they were yelling
and screaming at every pitch during the game, during the
pregame because again no one was on the air. Well,
when Lane Thomas hit the Grand Slam home run off
of Trekschooble, you would have thought the world came to
an end. It got definitely quiet, and you could sense
it from our broadcast location. You could sense it out

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of the parking lot where people were tailgating because they
all had the baseball game on. And it isn't amazing.
Now when you when you tailgate, you go to games
and you go through the parking lot. Everywhere people are
sitting up with they have big screens up you're watching
other games. That's how you tailgate. Now, Yes, hook up
to your wireless or your hot spot or whatever it is,
plug your smart TV in and you can sit there

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and watch whatever is going on. But the place, the
parking lot, everything just got deathly quiet. Just everybody's kind
of lean back and oh no, and they didn't know
they did rilly a little bit. They end up losing
seven to three, but it was it was pretty entertaining
from that regardless reactions. See the reaction from the folks
out in the h out of a working a lot

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in the press box. For those guys in the booth
next to us, they were going.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
On, sure, that was just deflating.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
It was. It was. It was also on Saturday. Because
of the weather, there was a game in the MAC
on Saturday. Western Michigan and Akron played in Kalamazoo. That
game kicked off at three thirty at I think it
was five thirty. They went into a weather delay because
of the storm the one I mentioned the rain and lightning,

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and so they go into a rain delay or a
weather delay at that point because there's lightning in the areas.
You got to wait thirty minutes. They were to delay
for five and a half hours. So when the Ohio
State game ended, I stopped. As I mentioned, I was
driving home. Was when the Buckeyes game ended, I was

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checking scores. I flip over as I stopped to get
some gas, I flip over to the ESPN slight and
I'm checking scores and I see eleven fourteen to quarter
number four Akron twenty four, Western Michigan twenty. I thought,
wait a minute, that game started at three thirty. This
can't be updated. This can't be updated. So I refreshed
it a couple of times, and it was still going on.

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So I flipped onto Sirius and popped on the Acron
broadcast my friend Dave Skozen, and when I turned it on,
I clicked it on just at the point where Skosn
said something that his broadcast partner Joe Dunn kind of
laughed at sarcastically and goes and goes, Hey, he goes,
I've been out of the air for eight and a
half hours, what do you want? And he was right.

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It was about eleven thirty thirty quarter quarter or twelve, yeah,
five and a half hour weather delay, and just just
remarkable that they had to go through that, and I
think Western ended up not to It's kind of beside
the point, but Western ended up winning the game. But hey,
I've been on the air for eight and a half hours.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Like, what else do you want me? Yeah, I'll be
a little slack here, that's reasonable.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
We've had Dave on this program before. He's a good guy. Now.
I just that just kind of struck me. Yeah, yeah,
they had a five and a half I've turned think myself,
what do you do in the five and a half hours?
I mean, obviously you do the old let's throw it
back to the studios, let's do those type of things. Uh,
and you keep on. I mean, I'll tell you, I'll
tell you a quick story what I was calling Wittenberg games.

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And this was two thousand. We played at Wabash, which
is over in Crawfordsville, Indiana. Uh, they didn't have lights,
so we had a weather delay that lasted up until
it was probably three and a half hours or so.
So we're getting into that stretch where you could not
finish the game because there's no lights. You were gonna

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get to the point where it was just gonna be
too dark to play. So everybody's still standing around waiting,
and the decision was made And I had never been
a part of anything like this before, anything at the
college level. They made the decision to move the entire
game to a nearby high school in Crawfordsville, Indiana. The
entire game. They just picked. Ay, we're moving the game
to Crawfordsville, Indiana. Over to Crawfordsville, it's like an hour

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and a half away. They are not an hour, like
a mile and a half away. They have lights. So
seven thirty we're kicking off. Everybody has to get over there.
Don't the remarkable things I ever seen in my life.
So we're like everybody, everybody's in the press box going
all right, now what do we do?

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah? Now what?

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Because because back in that day you were doing you
were calling games via phone lines. You didn't have it,
you didn't have the Internet or we fortunately had a
cell phone case in our car that we carried whisky
in Division three. You go day UF. You don't spend
overnight hotel rooms. That doesn't happen. So we tossed a
cell phone connection unit in the back of our car.

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We drove over there, myself and Sam Smith and our
sideline guy Scotti Leo, and we raced over to the
press offs because they said there was one phone line available.
Whoever gets there first gets it.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Wow, first first serve.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah, Yeah, So so we we thought about just tackling
the wabashed radio guys and throwing them down, and that
way we knew we'd get the phone line. But they anyway.
But long story, long story, long story, probably way too
long for all of you. But nonetheless, the entire game
was moved. And I mean it's nothing that I mean
Western Magican. They have lights in the facility, is great,
but still hanging around for five and a half hours,

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that's have a players. What goes through the player's mindset,
through the coaches. I mean, if you're Akron, you've got
to think of things like food. How do we feed
our players? What do we do hydrate all those things?
Because you know you're going to finish the game.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah, and then you gotta you gotta keep them warmed up,
stretched out.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
It's it's a lot.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
I mean it is. It is a lot, and somehow
they managed to make their way through it and Akron
ended up losing, though it was Hey, i've been on
air for eight and a half hours, coming some slack,
all right? Three forty five is the time when we
come back. Roger Goodell, the commissioner of the NFL, made
a very interesting I'm over the weekend that has stirred
up a lot of response, as only Roger Goodell can do.

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We'll tell you about that when we come back. It
is the press box on this Monday, Fox Sports nine
eighty W gold.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Name, get on the press box called Marty Now at

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nine three seven by three one six one seven zero
the press box on Fox Sports nine eighty w Onni
and welcome.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Back to the program three forty eight as we roll
along here on this Monday. As we continue along Tomorrow,
Tony Gerdeman from Letterman's Row will join us and we'll
talk about Ohio State and Oregon. We'll get a little
more in depth into that with Tony. Wednesday, Bill Bender
from The Sporting News joins us. The tall college football
in general, and on Thursday, Anthony Coscenza from Orange and
Black illustrated the Bengals site. He covers the Bengals and

(38:14):
we're gonna talk to him, and again we're also trying
to trying to get a Browns guest on. I mean,
we do what the best we can. Doesn't seem too
many people who want to talk about the.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
What are what are they gonna say?

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Marty?

Speaker 2 (38:27):
It's not going great. It's not going great.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
But the point is the questions that are being asked
about the quarterback situation are very valid ones right now
that uh that aren't getting a lot of answers to
because Kevin Stefanski asked again today is Deshaun Watson your
starting quarterback? The question that unless I've missed it entirely,

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and I may have, But the question I have not
heard asked after it's been asked, is he still your
starting quarterback? The question that I have not heard asked
is who's making this decision? Is this your call? I
haven't heard anybody ask that. Maybe I've missed it. I
don't know, But to me, that's a fair question. Yeah,

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I think that question should be the immediate follow up.
And again, as I said, maybe I've missed it, and
it has been asked, I mean out the Cleveland media.
They do a very good job of covering the Browns
and they're pretty thorough about the questions they ask. But
again I said, I may have missed it. I don't know.
But that's all part of what's going on covering the

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Browns right now. I mentioned prior to the Brank Roger Goodell,
the commission of the NFL made a very interesting comment
over the weekend during an interview. Of course, these days
there are so many international games, and there's one this week.
I feel sorry for the folks. Is this the Germany
game this week?

Speaker 2 (39:53):
I think they're back in London.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Are they back in London because they get the Patriots
and the Jaguars. They may want to that they send
them to backup back across the pond.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
We are they're sending the worst games. We are sending
the worst games.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Yeah, I just thought it was bad in seventeen seventy six. Yeah,
a lot worse, a lot worse. On Sunday, Yeah, I
get ready for those back Jaguars and Patriots. But Roger
Goodell made a comment and he hinted at the possibility
of the Super Bowl being played internationally, and I I.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
No, no, no, I can't do that exactly.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
There are there are a lot of things. I think
it's great that you take the game overseas and you
play games to kind of it increase the brand whatever
it is. And that's fine. If you want to take
Jacksonville and New England and if you want to leave
them there, no one will.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Get upset, not too many people.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
If you if you eventually want to put a team
over there, which I think is down the road. I
don't think that can be completely ruled out. There are
a lot of that's the thing. There are so many
logistical parts of that that you have to think about
housing of the players. Do players move their their family,
lock stock and barrel to London? Do they the travel

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part of it, although if you think about it, it's
I think the flight is longer from Seattle to New
York than ADDI from New York to London. I think
that it's either longer or it's very close to the
same distance.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
It's like a six hour flight, yeah, five.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
And a half six hours, so something like that. But
but those are the parts of the problem that you
have to kind of address and figure out. Do these
players do they become residents of London for.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Well, that's fine months. Yeah, I mean I think that's
one of the biggest things. And I think we dealt
with it most significantly when the NBA reopened after COVID,
because Canada was like, we're not doing that. So if
you want to have your little Toronto Raptors play a game,
it won't be here. So they had they had to
move and I don't know anything about the labor laws

(42:15):
in the UK, but I think they're They're not the
American labor laws, and so that would have to be
addressed as well. And then you have the are you
getting paid in euros? Like what are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't think that would
be the case. But I mean there are certainly tax implications. Well,
when players go overseas, they don't have to pay taxes
on the money they make over there, so so so
some of the players will probably be going, Okay, yeah, sure.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
But I think you have to pay taxes there.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
I forget how it works. There are a lot of
dynamics involved in But any rate, the super Bowl is
purely an American purely, and I don't think playing are
most important game in London.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
In a place where the people there do not care
is good for the brand. Also, the National Football League,
not the International Football League.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
I wouldn't say that people there don't care. I mean,
if you watch the games, these things are sellouts. I
mean there are seventy five and eighty thousand people in
these soccer stadiums watching these games. And maybe it's it's
the novelty of it. I think that's because if you remember,
back during the summer baseball went over there was the
Cardinals and the Cubs played like a two game series
over there in London and the games were sold out.

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So I think there's a novelty. It's like when the
soccer matches come over here, yeah, where people flock to
go see the Liverpool Manchester City friendly. I mean, what
they have eighty thousand in Ohio Stadium when those two
teams played there back in what was it August? I
think it was when they played. So there's a certain
novelty about it. But I mean, if you're in London

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and let's say Jacksonville moves, there was the rumor a
few years ago is that Jacksonville was going to go
there because they couldn't get a stadium done, a stadium
renovation done. They've got that problem solved. But if you're
if you're in London, I mean, does that work? I'm sorry?

Speaker 2 (44:12):
The top games the Tottenham Jaguars is it's not gonna fly.
I'm sorry, I don't it's it's not the Mayberry Bucks.
It's not gonna work.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Are they the old Are they the old England Jaguars? Patriots.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
It's I think that they do flock because of the novelty.
I think it's the same as soccer in America overall.
It's not in the Big three. It's fun and they're
a fan base, but you're not gonna get the money.
We're talking about the Super Bowl. Okay, the Super super Bowl.
They don't even they don't even use those words. They

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would call it like the supper, like the supper time.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
They're not they it's a different call over there. Well,
I don't like me that they do understand. But no,
I don't want to have tea while I'm watching football.
I don't want any of that. I don't want any
of that.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Yeah, I don't disagree with you that the game, the
game needs to stay in the United States. It does,
and I just don't. I just don't see where you
gain any if that helps the game, because I mean,
everybody watches it anyway overseas when when the Super bowls,
but me it kicks off it it kicks off at
six thirty on Sunday evenings all the time, so which

(45:34):
means over there it's like midnight when the game kicks off.
But I'm sure there are watch parties, and there are
there's a sizable contingent of North Americans who are over
there now. Whether you work or whatever, the situation is,
if you're traveling, if you're vacation or whatnot. The super
Bowl starts at six thirty, and so it's on it.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
If ever, I'm at the super Bowl, someone tries to
serve me crumpets, okay, and not some chicken wings. I'm rioting, okay,
I'm writing, I'm going to good Goodell's office, okay, and
I'm protesting. I'm getting a sign and.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Cream instead of instead of instead of a good solid drink.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah, I'll be irate, Marty. I don't have any room
for that. I don't.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
I really.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
When I saw that quote, I rolled my eyes so
hard they're still actually rolling.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
I mean, yeah, as I said, I don't think that
will ever happen. But the simple idea, and that's one
of the things that Roger Goodell is so good at.
He he will float ideas like that out and just
see what the response is.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
I'll give him a response.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Yeah, Well, but I think he's finding out that the
response isn't very good to this. A lot of people.
While it may sound great as a novelty. Just keep
playing your regular season games here. Just do that. Rotate
teams over there as they do. Uh, they have another
game in in England this week, then they go to Munich.
I think it's one or two games in Munich, and

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then I mean he Shore. They played in Brazil to
open the season. The Eagles and the and the Packers
open up in Brazil where.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
They're not allowed to wear dreams fun. And the thing is,
all of these moves are just not thought out.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Why why do you disagree I disagree that they're they're
they Oh yeah, they're well thought out. Yeah, they just
don't go on Tuesday go you know what, Well, I
don't send a team to Brazil on front. No, they're
well planned out. But I just I think when you
start when you start thinking about your biggest the biggest
thing on your calendar, and it is the biggest sporting

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event on the calendar for certainly this country. And you
can argue all you want about the World Cup about
it being I mean, it does draw more viewers around
the world than the NFL does. It's not by much,
but it does outdraw the Super Bowl. But to play
that in London or Stute Guard or Munich. It just

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leave it where it's leave it in the United States.
If anything, I would be in favor of leaving it
in one city. I've always thought, just played in one city,
don't bounce it all over the place. But there's too
much money to be made by bouncing it all over.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Like the bounce, it changes the dynamic of the game.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Me me, I played in New Orleans every year.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
I mean, I wouldn't mind.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Easy to get in, easy to get out the city,
the city does big events. Well, I'd do it in
New Orleans every year, and you don't have to worry
about the Saints being there anymore.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
So Wow, Wow, who dat?

Speaker 3 (48:34):
They started Spencer Rattler her quarterback yesterday? Wow, all right,
three fifty nine. It's the press box. By the way,
Baker Mayfield was the starter for Tampa yesterday too. They
scored fifty one points.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
They did. I've Mike call him a stud QB, but
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
He might call him that. It's the press Box Box
Sports nine eight w.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
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Speaker 4 (49:51):
I think Deshaun gives us the best chance to win,
continues to give us the best chance to win, and
we need to play really good offensive football at his
position and really at every position.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Kevin Stefanski on the quarterback situation for the Browns. Welcome
back to the press Box, Fox Sports nine eighty wem
Marty Bounds or Kelly b producing the program, and you
have us for about another hour or so here on
this Monday afternoon as we talk sports with you. Coming
up later in the week. Tony Gerdaman Tomorrow in hour
number two to talk to Little O'hio State football. Wednesday,
Bill Bender hour number one from the Sporting News as

(50:24):
we dive into college football, and Thursday, Anthony Coscenza from
Orange and Black illustrated the Bengals Podcast. He'll join us
and we're working on getting a Browns guest lined up
for that segment as well. Two on Thursday to talk
about the Battle of Ohio. On Sunday when Cincinnati travels
up by seventy five seventy one. Pain, you can go
up seventy five. I think go over seventy one to
go up to go up to Cleveland and take on

(50:46):
the Browns in a game that if Cincinnati wins it.
I mean, I'm not breaking any new ground here. The
Browns playoff hopes hinge by a very thin thread right now.
Is is even if Nick Chubb comes back, and is
any kind of as any kind of ability to spur

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this offense a little bit? I mean, you're you're if
they lose their one and six the Bengals, if they
win it, go to three and four and then have
the Eagles coming in the following Sunday, and then have
the Raiders. And again I hate to be this guy
and start, well, they could, I mean there is a
possibility of getting to five and four before they go

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to Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
I mean the Eagles are not playing very well. The
Raiders are not.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Did you see them yesterday?

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Yeah, that's not a good football taut it.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
That's not a good football team. And uh they just
uh they their offense. I mean they just got back
a couple of guys again. They got a couple of
wide receivers back and uh, one of their their best
offensive linemen. But I mean they didn't exactly run up
and down the field.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
On the No, yeah they didn't. And uh, you know, uh,
while we're on the NFC, shout out to the Detroit
Lions for taking care of business against everybody's least favorite team,
the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Forty seven to nine. And it wasn't that close.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
You know. I thought really good about that as well.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Yeah, the whole reaction Monday, as we always do here,
we talk about everything that's happened over the weekend. We
were hoping to line up andree not. I don't think
we're gonna be able to do it to talk about
the baseball playoffs, the Guardians and the Yankees tonight in
game number one of the American League Championship Series. We'll
try and see if we can squeeze here in another
day this week, perhaps talk a little baseball with andre
Dodgers and matchagating undway in just a couple of minutes

(52:36):
out on the West Coast, game number two of the
National League Championship Series with the Dodgers on top one
game to none. Last night in New York, the Bengals
were good enough to win, and when you were one
and four and doing the things that they have failed
to do this season, good enough is good enough. And

(52:58):
while Joe Burrow even admitted right away after the game
last night, it was ugly, but the defense bailed them
out for a change this season. I think you saw
having Sheldon Rankins back, having McKinley Jackson back, having Joseph
Osaigh back, having bodies up front. Sam Hubbard even mentioned

(53:19):
it after the game. It kept everybody fresh. You could
just keep running different guys in. And the Trey Hendrickson
matchup with the Giants left tackle was fascinating to watch.
I mean NBC did a pretty good job of focusing
on that rather constantly last night, But watching Trey Hendrickson,
who is He's one of the three or four best

(53:41):
defensive ends in football right now. I don't think you
can argue that. And what you're seeing as well too
now for Cincinnati from an offensive standpoint, the value of
having a healthy T Higgins and the value having a
healthy Jamar Chase. Now, I had said all along, I
didn't think there's any way that were going to pay

(54:01):
T Higgins once the season is over. I just get
the feeling as this goes on and whether they make
some kind of a run or not. I'm not saying
they're going to do it, but I don't think it's
as simple as he walks when the season's over. I mean,
you're seeing some things here that this offense. Yeah, they

(54:25):
took a step No, they didn't take a step backwards
last night. They just didn't take a step forward. Yeah,
they just they just weren't very good last day. And
the Giants defense has a lot to do with that.
I mean, what Burrow got knocked in his keyster. What
seems seemed like twenty five times.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
They were getting to the quarterback. I don't know what
was going on with the O line looked like a sieve.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
It was bad. Amarius Mems had a bad night. Had
the rookie right tackle had a bad night. And but
that was his first one since he became the starter.
He was good prior to games. So the the thing
that's disconcerting about that is is now you get to
see Tomlinson, you get to see Miles Garrett, you get

(55:07):
to see some guys up front that are and it
gets well, anyway, well we'll worry about that. Worry about
that on Sunday. But nonetheless, I think, as as I said,
the offense didn't take a step back, It just didn't
take a step and they got a touchdown on the
Borough run early on, and with the way the defense
was playing, as I said, that was good enough last night. Yeah,
that was good enough. And I think we're also seeing too,

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Chase Brown is rapidly developing into the go to back
Zach Moss. I mean, they spent money on this guy.
He just he just doesn't look like he has that burst.
They brought him in mainly for pass pro, and he
whipped a couple of times last night which led to

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Burrow sacks. He has to be better in that. That's
why he's there because I think I think we're seeing
Chase Brown, and they made a concerted effort to get
him the ball in a number of situations in half
number two last night. I think that is because I
think he's becoming that guy in the backfield. I mean,
obviously he's got the speed. I mean, goodness sakes, you

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see him accelerate on the touchdown run.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
He's fast. He's fast, Yeah, he is. Zachlass is just inconsistent,
and I do think that that he was the plan
actually to be rmy one in Cincinnati. But it's it's not.
It's not showing up. It's not.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
It's not. But I do think it gives you a
good tag team tandem. Oh they're good.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
They're a good duo.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Because again I think Chase Brown still as bad as
Zach Moss was in past pro last night, he's still
better than Chase Brown is in that area. And what
it would be to have some a J. P. Ryan back,
who is one of the best at that now he's
carrying the mail for Kansas City anyway. But if this
if this defense can do even a portion of what

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it did last night, and the offense gets back to
where it was prior to last night, there's not any
reason why this team, whether two and four, they got
eleven games left. I mean they could, they could five
hundred this the rest of the way out. I don't
that probably when we go to get you in the playoffs,
I think I personally, I still think you've dug yourself

(57:23):
too big a hole. Quite frankly as I still think
the hole is too big. But they gotta find a
way to win in the North. They have to win
games in the y gotta get They gotta play the
Steelers twice, gotta play the Ohio's other NFL team twice,
and they still got to play the Ravens one more time.
They gotta find a way to win four of those games,
three of them too, and the Steelers. Credit to the

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Steelers again, What's I mean?

Speaker 2 (57:49):
It's a wild world in Pittsburgh. I I don't know
what sort of witchcraft they got going on over there,
but because what what are you talking about? It's these
are these justin fields? Is he does just enough and
also not quite enough that it never looks good. It

(58:11):
never looks good on offense over there. But they actually
put up some real points.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Yeah so, and how much of that was a home
game yesterday for them? Yeah, crowd, that was phenomenal yesterday.
The Raiders tried to do all they could to deafen
the advantage by handing out white towels, which were just
completely completely swamped by the terrible towels which the Steeler
fans brought with them.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Wow, feels like everyone had two terrible towns.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
That was pretty impressive. It was, of course, we're you're
home for Steelers football right here. Fox Sports nine A
eight W and A. I thought it was interesting too.
Yesterday when the Browns game ended, Where did Fox take
viewers who were watching the Browns game? They look under
the Tampa Bay New Orleans game. M hm, just drive
it in just a little more at twisted around, walk Baker, Mayfield,

(59:00):
run up and down the field and leave it off
it to scored fifty points. Baker.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
He looks like a good quarterback of these days. He
really does.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Sometimes You've heard this in many different levels. A change
of scenery is the best thing for all concerned. And
I don't think there's any question they've reached that point
again in Cleveland. I don't. It's just it's as obvious
as the nose on everybody's face. They just, for whatever reason,

(59:29):
just don't see it. And again, I still believe, even though,
as you heard Kevin Stefanski saying in the Flax at
the top of the hour, he has a very good
relationship with Andrea or with Andrew Berry in the front office,
the decision about quarterback is his. And that's the thing.
I don't know how many people actually believe that.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
It's if okay, where what my thinking is, If this
is your decision, If ever you're looking for another coaching job.
I'm the front office. I'm gonna be like, remember that
time he kept Deshaun Watson out there for nineteen weeks
in a row despite them having the worst looking football

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team I've ever seen. I don't I'm for me. He
has to have been told like, hey, just eat this
kind of be the face of this so that we
can say, face we already lost a lot of money.
But there's no reason I would, under my own volition,

(01:00:30):
own up to this. This is this is a bad
decision for this football team moving forward, because Deshaun Watson
doesn't give you the best chance to win. Everyone with
eyeballs can see that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
There are other issues as you watch them play that
you can see that are there undisciplined, numerous penalties? How
many times say were they driving? Ill procedure? Illegal man downfield?
I mean those things were. I mean they have been
constant throughout the year. And because that's I don't know

(01:01:04):
where that's that is? That is that on Kevin Stefanski.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Because I guess he's because the locker room is he's
losing the locker room. Those little discipline things, you think
these guys don't know the rules, These are professional football players.
They're getting lazy, they're getting lacka days goal because they're
basically like, if you don't care, which you clearly don't,
if you keep telling us that this guy gives us

(01:01:30):
the best chance to win, then why do Why am
I going to put my actual body on the line.
It's hard to buy into a system you don't.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Maybe, yeah, I don't know. That could be a big
part of it. And I mean you hear people say
and again, I I do take exceptions sometimes to when
people say, oh, they've given up, they've quit. Well, though
these are professional athletes, they don't give up. They don't
quit mentally, they may check out, and that leads to
a lot of I think the things that were kind
of bringing up here in this but I think it's

(01:02:02):
kind of obvious that there is no relationship at all
between number four and everything else that's going on. Whereas
you look at what happens in Cincinnati. I mean, you
know Joe Burrow, I mean, he has that locker room.
It's his locker room. There's no question. He raises his
voice and people listen, and that's the way it's supposed

(01:02:23):
to be. When you have a stud quarterback count. Yeah,
that's what it's that's what it's supposed to be. And
it just I, as I've said, probably ad nausea, I
want Cleveland to lose every game they played. That's how
I feel about this rivalry, how I feel about that franchise,
how I feel about the rounds. But it's fun. I

(01:02:44):
think it's fun to have that kind of healthy, healthy
give and take. I think it's fun. But I do
feel sorry for their fan base. I really do. Well,
maybe not all of them, because there are some who
are completely off the rails, but every team has that.
But I do feel bad for a majority of their
fan base who's sit through this every I mean there
are people I know who yesterday said I'm not even watching.

(01:03:04):
I'm taking my I'm taking my kids out. I'm gonna
go do this, I'm gonna go do that. And that's
a dangerous area to get into. You're there to get
into exactly and probably all right, four sixteen is the time.
As we continue along, it's the press box. More of
the show coming up worth you right up until five o'clock.
Fan poles stay open as well too, and we have
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Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
E get on the press box, called Marty now at
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Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
Eight and welcome back to the program for twenty the
time as we were all along here with you on
this Monday afternoon. The thing to remember about that last
spot you heard that guy's never wrong. Always listening to
that guy, He's never never wrong, right, Kelly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Yeah, he sounded familiar.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
I was like, okay, okay, Like I said, just remember
I remember that that guy's always right, always right. All right,
welcome back to the program. Wed who is here on
this Monday afternoon. I mentioned earlier there's an interesting story developing.
We're coming at you today in the southeast part of Ohio.
We're in Athens today at the studios of Pure Rock
one oh five point five at W A. T. H Amuh.
They're kind enough to allow me to come in here

(01:04:17):
and annoy them during the afternoons why they're getting ready
to do their show. But there's an interesting story developing
down here about an athlete at one of the nearby
high schools at the planes Athens who is apparently in
the process of taking some legal action against his high
school because he was suspended and he feels it could
possibly hurt his future nil potential when he gets to college.

(01:04:38):
Visiting with us right now. Joining us here at our
broadcast location is Ethan Sargent, who hosts What's the Name
of Your Show? And in the it's a.

Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
Football Friday kickoff right here on Pure Rock one oh five.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
We do it down.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
We just simulcast it across five six different stations around here. That,
of course the company, parent company, Total Media owns. Really exciting.
We've been branching out a lot more this year. We're
actually going to Chilicothe this week. We're going to Unioto
Paint Valley, which is gonna be a eight football game game.
I really excited about that, really excited to watch. We
might actually stream the game. I get to get a
little play by player rep. That's gonna be a lot

(01:05:10):
of fun. But yeah, we've we've been working with that
this year. It's been a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Chillicothe, going over Niodo Paint Valley. Is it that paint Valley?
You know it's at a paint valley is a great
So I've called number of games of Paint Valley. It's
a great location called game from all right. Anyway, let's
get to the story here, all right, Number one, take
us through what is developing with this right now. We
have a student athlete is and it's at Athens High
School where Joe Burrow went. He is suing the school district.

(01:05:35):
Take us through what what what? What you've learned?

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
Yeah, So, for those who don't know, the Athenes football
team this year is is on a roll eight. No,
they've looked like one of the best teams from in
and around our area. But this is a story now
that's kind of hanging over and around a team that
you know, really shouldn't be thinking about this sort of
stuff when they're playing as well as they are. There's
a kid, his name Isaiah Roberts. He's a great football

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player on the on the defensive line for the Bulldogs,
and a couple of weeks ago the news broke that
he was suspended, that he was not going to play.
We didn't really get a clear one hundred percent reason.
But now it's coming out that he is a suspending
or excuse me, he is going to court. He is
taking this case to court for basically what's being deemed

(01:06:23):
and a future nil, I don't even know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
How do you term it? Like potential?

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
Yeah, So essentially they take this to court and this
past Thursday, a judge ruled that yes, Roberts can in
fact play, and he did suit up in their game
that they played last week, a forty one to nothing
win against Welston. He did not play with the starters.
He played in the backups, but he did play in
the game, which was notable. He had not played since
I believe Week five against Vinton County, so it had

(01:06:52):
been a few weeks of him out. The interesting thing
about this is it brings up so many questions for
those of you out there who are in and around
the sports business world and know how the world is
changing in college athletics right now with NIL. We do
a show here called the Sports Fan here on PU
Rock one ZHO five that we do and we talk
about it all the time. And I know you're familiar

(01:07:12):
with doctor Ridpath over to Howe University. If there's somebody
who is so intelligent, knows so much about the game,
and I'd love for him to sit down here and
talk about it, because I know he would take the
rest of your time on this show and talk about
all of it. But he essentially there's you know, there's
a lot of still moving parts with how this is
still going. And there's also another aspect of this is

(01:07:35):
that there's another player named Brayden Young who is actually
the starting quarterback for the first five six weeks of
the season, very good for like all TVC player, one
of the best players on this Athens team, who is
also suspended for a different reason, but is also now
filing suit along with Roberts. So this, now, that is

(01:07:55):
a whole nother thing because a different quarterback, Daniel Heitlund,
has come in for Athens that has been pretty good,
won their two games that they've played without or three
games excuse me that they've played without Breeding Young, and
Heitland has gotten better every week from what I've heard
from the Athens commentary crew. But now, you know, in
a team right now that is going to be in
and I mean, I know you guys talk about high
school football and in an ultra competitive region eleven that

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is just shock full of some of the best teams
in the state, Bishop Watterson, Steubenville, They're going to have
to compete if they want to go far, but this
is a story you just don't want hanging around.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Let's dive into that part of it. And Kelly please
join us. And you said you had some thoughts on
this as well too. What we're looking at here is,
and I've said this a couple of times, we've entered
kind of a different, if brave, new world. Is the
way to tophrase this. It's not the first time that
a student athlete or their family have sued or have

(01:08:46):
taken legal action because a player or a student athlete
has been suspended. It's happened before. Heck, last year at
the boys state basketball tournament in Dayton, they didn't know
till the day of the game of the state semi
finals whether the Division one semis were going to be
played because a player, I think it was at sant Ignatius.
Their family had sued because or taken to court because

(01:09:06):
the player was ruled ineligible. There's a lot of movie parts.
Everything kind of came together, though. But here we are
in this area right now, and it's supposed to be
high school athletics. And when money comes into all of this,
it changes the entire dynamic. And that's what we're looking
at here. Right now because the young man, the family
of the player you were talking about who's been suspended,

(01:09:27):
he is looking at his future and he thinks this
hurts his potential for colleges to see him play and
allow him to make nil earnings. Kelly, I know, it's
as I said, it is a different aspect of what
we're supposed to be doing right now.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
It is very much a different aspect than I think.
What I don't understand is how we diverted away from
high school sports being a privilege. Right now these kids
are acting like this is an entitlement. You are not
entitled to play sports if you get sustained. I mean,
I understand its money, but if I mean as a

(01:10:05):
as a radio DJ for iHeartMedia, there's there are morality
clauses in the contract I signed to work here, so
this my job is a privilege. I am an at
will employee. I don't understand how we are now saying
these these student athletes who are not following the student
part of the rules because that's how you got suspended,

(01:10:29):
are now expecting the athlete, and now not even just athlete,
but a job, like an employment sort of situation. I
don't understand how this even got legs in a court situation.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
Here's the thing, and I work with the OHSAA very frequently,
and I know a lot of the goings on. The
NIL issue is one that they are tap dancing around
all they can because they know it's coming at some
point they're going to have to give. Then Doug Youte,
who's the executive director is is not against it, but
he doesn't want it either, And that makes sense. I mean,

(01:11:06):
we understand those type of things. And Ethan, I think
when you look at and you've covered high school athletics
for a while, it takes it, as Kelly said, to
kind of a different level of what are we what
are we trying to do here right now?

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
Exactly exactly Marty, And it brings up, like you said,
so many difficult questions now that you have to answer
as an athletic director at UG you with the head
of the OD and everybody in that OHSCA building, because
it brings up so many questions, think about if this happens,
let's bring up another player in our area who might
be the most talented player in Sean Terry. He is
wide receiver at Ironton. For those of you who are

(01:11:40):
are farther north. Unbelievable player, one of the best players
I've ever I've been covering high schootball now for three
four years. Down here, one of the best players I
ever watched. He's gonna go play Division one football next year.
Let's say something like this were to happen to him.
This might be national news if it happens to somebody
like that because of how talented he is. Or imagine
this happens to a five any one of the four
or five star players around our state, and you feel

(01:12:01):
like that could potentially happen, and this is the kind
of gateway that that might open up into where you know,
I have the We were able to dig up some
of the the legal filings that were made. These legal
filings were October eighth, four oh two pm, so literally
what is that last week? So yeah, they this is

(01:12:24):
happening in real time. And the major thing that was
I guess the main bullet point that they were going
after was zero point fifty one. And I'm gonna read
this for Babs defendants, wrongful denial of plaintiffs. The defendant
is Athens School District. Plaintiff is the kid participation on
the Athens High School football team has created a risk

(01:12:45):
of irreparable loss, harm or damage to the plaintiff and
his teammates for the remainder of the Athens High School
football season. And then this is the key part right here,
this last sentence. Plaintiff is being recruited to play football
at several universities, and this will result in loss of
ability to earn an athletic scholarship and or potential name, image,

(01:13:05):
or likeness money. So it essentially basically they're kind of
hedging a future a little bit. They're saying, Hey, Mike,
I believe his mother or parental figure filed the suit.
He's a minor, he can't find a suit on his own,
files the suit and is essentially saying he might lose
out on a scholarship because of this. And I also

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know that Roberts is an extremely talented wrestler. He is
somebody that may end up wrestling at the next level
of over playing football. I know he's talented at both sports.
This opens up such a can of worm.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
Okay, and again Ethan Sergeant's with us from a one
O five point five pure rocke in Athens, a wat
h an interesting story developing down here in this part
of the state about a high school athlete who is
suing the school district because he was suspended and they
think it could eventually hurt his future nil potential to
earn money when he gets to college. Let me say
this about that. Kell I'm gonna get your point in
here in a second. But here's the thing that that's

(01:14:02):
being overlooked. And this, at least from the way I
look at it, Apparently this young man broke some kind
of rule exactly. Okay, Now, when you break a rule,
don't you have to pay the price for breaking that rule.

Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
Actually the other thing is that technically it was the
second time he had broken.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
Said okay, when we're talking the second time, second time? Now, yeah, yeah,
see that's where that's where that's where Okay, okay, But
that does not that take it to a different aspect.
I mean, I understand, I get the concerns about potentially
losing the chance to make money when you get to college.
But if you've broken a rule that is already established,

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I don't And you said, parents that that's part of
the issue in this. So there's gotta be some I
would have to think the parents are going to make
a point.

Speaker 4 (01:14:47):
I'm just trying to bring up what actually we might.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
Have Yeah, please yeah, yeah, please end up happening.

Speaker 4 (01:14:52):
This is again I'm gonna read it straight from the
legal filing, so I don't make any mistakes. What ended
up happening in December of twenty twenty two. He got
caught with something, Okay, and that's really all that needs
to be said. He got caught with something and he
was suspended, he missed a wrestling meet. All that happens,

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so now he doesn't That was when he was at
Athens High School. He now goes to Tri County Career Center,
which is a trade school, and he is there and
they have metal detectors and he got caught with something else.
And now basically you're.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
So he's broken two rules.

Speaker 4 (01:15:27):
Yes, okay, And now I think what they are saying
is that and from what I'm reading in this it
the rules about what needed to be inflicted upon or
or the punishment so to speak, that was inflicted on
what was not clear from the district. I think that
was another thing that the family is unhappy about, is

(01:15:49):
that the punishment, maybe I'm not gonna say, doesn't fit
the crime because I don't think that's what they're angry about.
I think what they're miffed about is the fact that
it wasn't clear from the district because there is in
the athletic Handbook, there was a set guideline on how
to handle stuff like this, and I think that they're
saying that it wasn't followed because based on the injunction,

(01:16:10):
it wasn't. At least again, this is all here say.
You know, nothing has been confirmed or denied in court.
So now, obviously I think as of right now. Again,
like I said, the judge at base value said yeah,
he can play for right now. Obviously, this is far
from over.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
For what I.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
I Okay, so thank you so much for clarifying that.
But if we're if we're gonna take this into the
real world where grown ups are making money. In the NFL,
for example, when a player breaks a rule, there is
not a standard punishment, and I don't think that we
could expect a standard punishment for almost anything. In high school.

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These are student athletes. Sometimes you make a teacher mad
on one day and it's a one day suspension and
you have detention or whatever. And sometimes you do the
exact same thing on the wrong day with the wrong teacher,
and now you're in detention for a week. And I
don't think anyone could argue that that's part of this
dynamic of being a part of a education community. So

(01:17:15):
I don't understand how you get to break the rules
and then sue because you don't like the consequences to
you breaking the rules.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
I don't, Yeah, exactly exactly. And the point I think,
because what you we're seeing here is I think what
we're seeing here is we have a family that's seeing
dollar signs exactly. That's what we're seeing here right now
in this And if the rules were established and this
young man broke those rules, you have to pay the price,
do you not? Am I missing something in this? Help

(01:17:46):
me with this. I don't know if this young if
the rules were established, whatever this young man did, and
now he's trying to get out of it because he
broke a role that he didn't like, or that his
mom and dad didn't lie. I'm sorry, that's not right. Yeah,
you gotta be you know. I'm sorry. You've you've made
a mistake and you've got to pay the price for this.

(01:18:08):
Just one man, it's ping Ethan Hank time. We're gonna
come back with this when we come back after the break.
Four thirty fours of times we roll along. Interesting story,
I think, and that's why I wanted to bring it on.
Give you a chance to hear this because we have
entered a different realm right now when you start factoring
in again dollar signs. It's the press Box Fox Sports
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Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
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Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
Eighty four thirty is we rollong with you here on
this Monday afternoon. Welcome back to the press Box, Fox
Sports nine eighty WNE. I'm Marty Mannerster. We're glad you're
with us here this afternoon. Kelly B's producing the program
and she's with us as well. We're coming to you
my part of the show today from Athens today and
we're in the studios of Pure Rock one to oh
five and WAT and our friend Ethan Sergeant, host of
one of the sports talk shows they air here on

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Monday nights, as with us. Right now, we're talking about
a story that's been developing down here in this part
of the state where a couple of high school athletes
have been suspended and have had their families file lawsuits
in order to get them back to play, and part
of the lawsuits stems from the fact that they're concerned
about losing their ability to earn NIL funds when they

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get to college because coaches won't have a chance to
watch them play to help them get to the college
of their choice and the ability to earn money. Before
we go back into our conversation about that, I want
update you on the baseball game right now, Game two
of the National League Championship Series. The New York Mets
hold a two nothing lead over the Los Angeles Dodgers.
The Dodgers have gone thirty three straight in without allowing
a run before Francisco Lindor Homeward in the top of

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the first to kind of take care of that. Kelly
be with us as well to an Ethan Sargent still
with us in studio for other many moments of this conversation,
I think we we have entered up a part now
of high school athletics where we have seen the changes
over the years coming with uh, I mean, everything that's
going on in college athlecs I mean these days now,
eighth graders are getting offers. It's just I mean, Braxton

(01:20:14):
Miller's son is in the sixth grade. He got an
offer from Florida International. From Tomhome.

Speaker 4 (01:20:19):
He had Chris Henry's son fly halfway across the country,
and he already has an Ohio state exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
It's it's obviously an entirely different landscape now that the
the athletic that high school a legs have to deal with.
And as I said earlier, nils coming. We all know
it that I think there are what is it? We
figured out one day? What are their eight states that
have it right now? I think nil. I think California has,
I think Louisiana does. I'm pretty sure Texas does. But

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it's coming to Ohio. And as I said, Doug Youth,
the executive director of the OHSA, while he may not
like it, he understands that it is coming. Let's start.
Let's go back to you on this one, Ethan, because
as I said, you cover high school legs. I coverhigh
school athletics on a pretty regular basis. Have you noticed
the change though, I mean you see it. I mean,

(01:21:06):
athletes are athletes when the game obviously takes center stage
when you take the field and whatnot. But it is
there's a different field about it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:12):
Well, I think you see it a lot more at
these bigger programs right at for example, when you go
a little bit farther up north to or at least
for us here in Afrites, a little bit farther up
north towards Columbus where you get these you know, these
Pick North, Pick Central's, you know Gehannah Lincoln's, these massive,
massive high schools. And then obviously in Cleveland and Cincinnati,
you your eyes, your ex'es, your molars, your heads. Right,

(01:21:32):
you've got Division one athletes turned out and they're left
and right. And yeah, it's different now because if you're
a senior who has an offer to a big school
and say you tear in acl or you suffer a
major injury of that type, or like in this case,
you get yourself into trouble because I'm sure it's happened
before and I'm sure it'll happen again, because again, these

(01:21:54):
kids are fifteen to seventeen, eighteen years old. If they
make mistakes, right, it happens, and things like this. I
don't think that this is the last type of lawsuit
like this, we're gonna say. In fact, it might be
one of the first. I think that it's only going
to get to a point where again you are messing.
You're playing with futures here. And I think it comes
down to two things.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Number One, as.

Speaker 4 (01:22:15):
High schoolers, you're in a age, in a moment where
you're maturing and you're learning right, not just on the field,
but off the field as well, because if something like
this would happen while you're in college, you might be
off the team before you could even blink, right, and
there goes the scholarship, and there goes everything that you
worked so hard for for your entire life. Right, So
you have to learn at that time to make the

(01:22:35):
better decisions and to just be a little bit smarter.
I think that that's the first key part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
It'll go back to the point I said prior to
the break. And again I may be old fashioned than
this or however, but if these individuals did break the
established rules that were laid out, then to me, well,
this lawsuit is frivolous. You have no recourse because your
son or your daughter they broke a known rule. I agree,

(01:23:02):
So you got to pay the price you got to
deal with it, and when you get to college or
you get to wherever it is you're going at the
next level, then you have to make up and just
work that much harder to try to make yourself noticeable.
And maybe that's the that's the way you have to
approach this right now. But again, to me, Kelly, I
think rules were broken and you have to make people
pay when rules are broken.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
And this is not the first time that that's happened.
There are literal documentaries about having to go the Juco
route because maybe your grades or your behavior was not
up to snuff. For some of these bigger universities that
have huge brands, you can't be caught carrying something at
Ohio State. Ohio State is not gonna play that game.

(01:23:44):
So for me, I'm just I don't understand why why
that we're we're as a system trying to make exceptions
for kids that are already already not trying to follow
the rules. I absolutely understand mistakes, and I do think
that there should be redemption arcs and ways to get
back what you perhaps lost, But suing the school, that's

(01:24:09):
that's I don't think that's the way.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
And the other part of this too is and again
it's something I said earlier as well too, it's parents.
And I don't know these these these young folks parents
at all. I I don't know anything about them. And
I'm not saying that their money grabbers or anything, but
this has to be coming from them. This all this
has to stem from the parents going hey, wait a minute.
And I'm not saying that they're thinking that, hey, well,

(01:24:31):
we can make hundreds of thousands of dollars when Johnny
goes off to school. But at the same time, that's
gotta be where it's coming from.

Speaker 4 (01:24:37):
It has to be well exactly, and I think that
when you look at and you zoom out right and
you think about this in perspective of any college player
from your Taven Saint Clair's of the world, all the
way down to your kids that are playing at River
Valley and Welston down here in Athens County or in
Jackson County. For Welston, there are just like again, and

(01:25:00):
sometimes it can be one or two plays that you
put on tape and all of a sudden, one college
coach sees it and there's your break. Right, Sometimes that's
all it takes. But there's so much that goes into it,
and you have to And it goes back to what
I just said a moment ago. I think just about
you have to continue to work, but you have to
be smart, right, and you have to make smart decisions.
And that comes back again to parents, right. I remember,

(01:25:23):
I mean not to buff up my parents or anything,
but they always instilled in me that, you know, you
have to work hard for everything you get. You might
be talented at what you do, but you don't just
get anywhere by not working hard, right, So you have to,
you know, And I'm sure that goes for anybody in
any profession, you know, forget sports, yep, that goes for
all or all walks of life.

Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
You're your point about getting stuff on video. These days, athletes,
talent athletes don't hide anymore. Now. You don't go into
the woods and find and find and find and find.
You find uh Roy Hobbs hanging out in the middle
of the field hitting the baseball. Everybody knows where the
athletes are. So you have enough already chalked up in

(01:26:00):
your resume, so to speak, your video resume where you
can can you can show that to coaches. So I
think that might be part of this where if if
I'm trying to put an argument against this, like I say, hey,
wait a minute, you've had opportunities. People know you're out there.
So again, I think it just talk comes back to
these You've.

Speaker 4 (01:26:17):
All these You've got all these ID camps now where
you can take your talents, and there are hundreds of
college coaches at these camps filming breaking it down.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
You have tons opportunities. I think the other thing too
that this I mean you mentioned too Athens is are
they're unbeaten right now? They are eight? No, what does
this do to the team. I mean, I mean if
you've got to think there's there's a few weeks. Yeah,
you gotta think there's a little bit of hey wait
a minute, cause we all know how fragile locker rooms
can be a certainly at the high school level. I mean, well,

(01:26:46):
it's very interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:26:47):
Their head coach, Nate White, was the quarterbacks coach when
Joe Burrow was was romping down there for the Bulldogs.
You know, a lot of that staff is is retained.
It's not the same head coad. Nate White has now
been promoted up to head coach. He's done a pretty
good job over the last few years. You know, Athens
had some real down years in twenty twenty one twenty
twenty two especially, but over the last couple of years
brought talent back in. This is a very talented senior

(01:27:08):
class that they have, and there's a lot of really
good players on this team that are have nothing to
do with is Leo Martin Wore their wide receiver, defensive backs,
phenomenal player the kids like five to three and he
is unbelievable. You wouldn't think so, but he can. Anthony Sutton,
Alex Purou. There are so many talented players on this
team that have nothing to do with this, right right,
But this is what's kind of getting the I know,

(01:27:30):
I know the people that do such great work over
at Gridiron Glory with WUB they're they're working on it
right now. I know they're putting something together with this. So,
I mean, this is court this is court case. This
is I mean, I don't like, we're not really saying
anything that's private anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
This is out there public.

Speaker 4 (01:27:44):
It's public information. Can if you're interested, you can look
up the name and you can probably find the information
that you need.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
So interesting, it's so interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
I will be doing that really is a hard I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:27:55):
We're gonna be keep an eye on absolutely ethan sergeant.
I appreciate your time. I bring a job on this
good job, Ethan sergeant with us from Pure Rock one
oh five point five and w a t eh here
in Athens baseball games. At the bottom of the second
the Mets have scored six times. Lead the lead the
Dodgers six nothing now as that game goes to the
bottom half of the second inning. So much for that
thirty three inning scoreless streak. All right, Mets put five

(01:28:16):
on the board in the top of the second Dodgers
at pat right now the Yankees and Guardians tonight, seven
thirty eight, the first pitch, it's the press box Fox
Sports nine eighty W one.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):

(01:28:47):
nine to three seven by three one, six, one seven
zero the press box on Fox Sports nine eighty w
O four point fifty one.

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
As we start down the home stretch of the programming. Again,
thanks to a sergeant for joining us and gave us
an update. I think was a very interesting story again, uh,
centering on high school athletics and a individual suing his
school district because he feels the suspension he has endured
is costing him the potential to earn nil money future
nil money again because as we all know right now,

(01:29:20):
the state of Ohio does not have that for high schools.
But I think it's fair to say it's coming and
at some point we're gonna have to deal with this,
but for the time being anyway, any good story, I think,
and I'm glad to appreciate Ethan for stopping by and
giving us some update on that as well too. Again,
the Mets on top of the Dodgers six nothing. That
game is in the bottom half of the second inning
of Dodger Stadium in Los Angles, California, in Game number

(01:29:43):
two of the National League Championship Series. And you always
have to say it that way Los Angles. It sounds
cooler that way when you're on the radio, right Kelly,
when you say Los Angeles, it's not like as far
as I know. Okay, Guardians and Yankees tonight, and again,
the first pitch in that game will be about seven

(01:30:03):
thirty eight tonight. Damon Wolf from Dogs by Nature will
be our guest on Thursday. We talk about the Cleveland
Browns half of the Big Showdown on Sunday in Cleveland
between the Bengals and the Browns. So we have Damon
Wolf Dogs by Nature first Hour, and our friend Anthony Cosenza. Well,
i'd imagine Damon Wolf could be our friend too, we
just don't know it. We haven't had him on yet.
But thanks to our friend Jared Mueller from WARS scheduling

(01:30:25):
that for us, we appreciate that. So we'll have both
ends of the state of Ohio covered on Thursday. In
the program. Tomorrow, Tony Gerdaman joins us from Letterman's Row.
We'll recap what happened on Saturday night out in Eugene, Oregon,
where Ohio State lost to Oregon thirty two to thirty one.
On Wednesday, Bill Bender of the Sporting News, we'll visit
with us and Bill we'll talk about college football as

(01:30:48):
a whole right now as we hit a part of
the schedule right now. Ohio State with a bye coming
up this weekend, their second and final bye of the season,
and then the stretch drive for the Buckeye starts after that.
The rankings are out. Ohio State didn't drop that far
in the AP poll. The Buckeyes only went down a
couple of spots. They felled at number four, behind Texas, Oregon,

(01:31:11):
and Penn State. Penn State obviously impressed the voters with
their win in Los Angeles. I'm sorry Los Angeles on
Saturday when they knocked off Southern California. Did you see
what happened at the end of the game. Penn State's
players went out to the middle of the field and
tried to plant a Penn State flag on the USC logo.

(01:31:31):
James Franklin, the head coach, raced out and pulled the
flag away. I said, no, we're not doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
We don't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
Credit to him for that. Agree gave a little credit
for that. Are even credit for that? What's that old line,
what goes around comes around?

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
Definitely does those things.

Speaker 3 (01:31:46):
Those things do come back to haunt you.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
Total sportsmanship is not going to hurt anyone. If you
really feel a way, whoop up on them in the game. Right,
otherwise all that extra stuff, don't.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
And on the plane and go home and take that
hour bus ride back to state college, which he complained
about last week. All right, EP top twenty five. Texas
is number one, Oregon two, Penn State three, Ohio State four,
Georgia five, unbeating. Miami is sixth, Alabama seven, ls U eight,
Iowa State is ninth out of the Big twelve, and
Clemson is tenth. Tennessee drops to a number eleven in

(01:32:21):
the pot See. Vanderbilt went again over the weekend. They
beat Kentucky.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
This time Vanderbilt is I don't know what's happening over there,
but they're they're making they're making some noise, and they're proud.
They're playing proud.

Speaker 3 (01:32:33):
We'll see. I think a lot of people thought after
beating Alabama the week before, they'd come back down to earth.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
Everyone did I did.

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
I did beat Kentucky. So good win for Vanderbilt. In
the Coaches poll, Texas is one, Oregon two, Penn State three.
Georgia is number four in the Coaches pooll Ohio State
slides to number five there, Miami is six, Alabama seven,
LSU eight, Clemson nine, and Tennessee is number ten. Iowa
State is twelfth in the Coaches poll. Of the unbeatens

(01:33:00):
right now in the poll, Texas, Oregon, Penn State, Miami,
Iowa State, BYU, Indiana, pitt and Army and Navy. Good
to see both the service academies in it. Really happens
that they're both in Army and Navy combined eleven and
zero right now. And I've said this before on this program. Everybody, Yes, sure,

(01:33:24):
you get all in Gulf by Ohio State Michigan and
how big that is, and it's a big rivalry. Go
see an Army Navy game. Do that and you will
know what the best rivalry in college sports is. It's
Army Navy and it's not even close. Watch that game,
Go to it. See what it's like because they're playing
for something Justice Midge and more than just going to

(01:33:47):
the coach football playoff. Yeah, it's a it's like my
Like I've said before in the show, my son's an
Army veteran, my daughter's a Navy veteran. And that week
they don't speak. They don't talk.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
How could they they're barely related for seven days.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
Yeah, they don't. They one doesn't acknowledge the other, the
other doesn't achnology other. My son always uses the key
for Sutherland line, from all, from all a few good men.
Whenever we need to go some place to fight, you
guys are always there to give us a ride.

Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
So I can't imagine. I can't imagine it's yeah, I
can imagine, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:34:24):
Not really I mean no, I mean like bitterly tests.
But it's just that they just it's we're not we're
not discussing that. We're not discussing it. And it's but
it's it's a it's a great rivalry Army Navy. Uh,
it's a fantastic rivalry. All right. A couple things update
John before we wrap it up here. Today Again the
baseball game as it moves along. The Mets have jumped
out big time on the Dodgers in Game number two

(01:34:45):
of the National League Championship Series, with the Mets scoring
five times in the top half of the second inning
and lead Los Angeles by the score of six nothing.
That's Game two of the nationalgu Championship Series. Game one
of the American League Championship Series. It's going to be
a bullpen type game tonight for the Guardians. Alex Cobb
will get the baseball tonight to start the game, which

(01:35:06):
again has a seven thirty eight first pitch against the
Yankees through Carlos Rodan at the Guardians in game number one.
Game number two of the series is tomorrow night as well.
I haven't seen the full schedule because I was interested
to see what happens should they get to Sunday Guardians

(01:35:27):
and Yankees. Could there potentially be a conflict with the
Bengals in the Browns in Cleveland on the Sunday. I
imagine they would stagger at the start time of the
baseball game. If that would be with the format, that
would be game five, I think because they played, they
played to night, they play tomorrow. They're off Wednesday for travel,
then Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Will they probably be off Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
For Yeah, they'd probably be off. Yeah, thank goodness.

Speaker 3 (01:35:54):
But that'll but the baseball starts to night. So Guardian
Yankees again about seven thirty eight, again, the Mets on
top of the Dodge six nothing as that game rolls along,
they're in the top half of the third. Thanks to
Kelly B. We'll always appreciate her time. Tomorrow, Tony Gerdiman
with us and we'll have some other things lined up
for you as well too. Thanks to Ethan Sergeant for
stepping in with us this afternoon and discussing a very
interesting story of us surrounding high school aalytics, and thank

(01:36:15):
you for being with us. We're back with you tomorrow
from three to five. It's the press block right here.
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