October 28, 2024: Overreaction Monday and Chris Fogle

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the press Box with Marty Banister, the latest
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from the Reds and Buckeyes to the Bengals and Browns.
Called Marty now at nine three seven by three, one six,
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eighty Wnaight.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
When I am making great decisions one play at a time,
I am a great inferral quarterback. I am certain of that.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Well, I think Browns fans might agree with him. That's
Jameis Winston, who Yeah, I think kind of hard to argue.
Welcome to the press Box, Fox Sports nine eighty w owne.
I'm Marty Banners too, so gonna be with you here
on this Monday afternoon. If there was ever an overreaction
Monday to get into well this is it. So much
happened over the weekend, and we will dive and do

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all of it for you. That's Kelly b She's producing
the program. We're with you right up until five o'clock.
Coming up on the program today. It's an interesting last
twenty four hours in the OHSA football playoff field. The
field was announced yesterday and in Division seven, Region number
twenty eight the number one team in the state, the

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powerhouse Marion Local Flyers. Now, they thought on Friday after
their impress I mean they shut out cold Water, the
number one team in the state, and Division six shut
them out, and so they were under the impression that
they were going to take on the sixteen seed Cedarville. Yep.
Cedarville decided that they didn't have enough healthy bodies to

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play in the game, so they opted out, which you
are allowed to do in the football format. So it
then fell down to the next school in the rankings,
which is New Miami. New Miami opted out for we're
assuming what we're hearing the same reason. They went then
went to Lachland, which also said nope, we don't want

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to play, or love it. It was a Lockland. It was Locklan.
I'm sorry, not lovely Lachland, and they said they don't
want to play. So it went down to the next school,
which is Fort Recovery, which is a member of the
Midwest Athletic Conference, which has already played Marion Local this season.
Fort Recovery said, yep, sure we'll go, we'll play. So

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with that all in mind, I reached out to a
number of the coaches whose team's opted out. Chris Fogel,
the head coach at New Miami, will come on with
us at four twenty and talk about that decision, because
I think there's a lot that goes into it, because
I've seen a lot of reaction on social media. Some
people have said, well, these schools should be penalized, they

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should be fined. Well, you can't penalize or find a
school or a coach if you don't have enough healthy
bodies to play a game. And that's kind of what
we're looking at here. So Chris Fogel is kind enough
to come on and give us some time, and he's
gonna do that at four twenty and we're going to
talk about the decision and why he has opted not
to have his team go to the postseason. A lot

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of things surrounding this, and I appreciate Coach Fogel, as
I explained to him and the other coaches I reached
out to today about coming on the program. This is
not a hit piece. I'm not trying to come on
and take shots at them or call them out. I
just want to hear why the reaction to this. Why
don't you want to take your team? Are you not healthy? Enough,

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what is the reasoning for this? And coach fogl knew
Miami was kind enough to give us some time today
and he'll do that at four twenty, So looking forward
to that conversation. So we have that for you today. Now. Yesterday,
at about seven twenty is somewhere in that general area,
I hear this loud, yelling scream come out of the
western part of the state of Ohio, from the greater

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Dayton area, and my first thought was, well, I hope
everybody's okay, And then I realized exactly what that yell was.
That was from Kelly B's house where her beloved Washington Commanders.
Just a phenomenal play by Jade and Daniels pass tipped
into the air. Former Ohio State receiver Noah Brown caught it,

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and the Commanders beat the Chicago Bears unjust one of
the more remarkable finishes in the National Football League, certainly
this or in recent years. And as I said, I
heard this loud scream and this yell, and I thought,
I know what it is. It's Kelly B. It was me.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
In fact, I was I was sitting on my sofa
pouting because we were we had given away the game. Honestly,
I I really I watched this outplay the Bears for
four quarters and then just go.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
I gotta stop you right there. I gotta stop you
right there. At this time last year, were they we yeah, yeah, always.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
Please continue continue and uh yeah, because.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Right now the Bengals aren't we go ahead?

Speaker 4 (04:50):
You said, I don't know, I don't know them. Yeah,
I'm I'm fully expecting us to cough up this game.
And this is this reminds me of the old team,
the old name, the old all the old energy.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
And so.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
I'm sitting on the sofa pouting. At that point, my
dog is comforting me. And as soon as that ball
was tipped, Honestly, the fact that the play lasted as
long as it did made me. I was like, I
know that Bears fans too, are uneasy with what is transpiring.
And when that ball was tipped, I saw I saw

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Noah Brown behind the pack, I think before everyone did.
And I was so excited that I actually picked up
my fifteen pound dog and tossed him.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah, the little dog. He's a great little dog. He's okay.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
I brought him back.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
I hope.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
A minute, but I was so excited and needed to
get off of my sofa so fast that he wasn't
moving fast enough for me. So I had to, you know,
give him a little help. And it was I've I've
never seen I've seen Hail Mary's be successful before, but
it's never been for my.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Team, never been for your team's never been for my team.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
So I mean, I watched that play, I kid you
not know less than fifteen times last night. Rewind play,
rewind play.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
As I told Kelly, that's how I felt in twenty
twenty one when the Bengals were making that Super Bowl.
The things that would happen during the season, during the playoffs,
you thought, well, this can't be my team doing this.
It just can't be. And I'm exceedingly happy for you. Congratulations.
The only player on the field who right now is

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probably still trying to figure everything out, as Tyreek Stevenson
of the Bears. Now, in all fairness, now he's getting
a lot of flat Yeah, okay, and I get it.
But if you watch the replay, he did get back
into the I don't know if him being right there
at the beginning of the play would have made any
difference anyway, because the ball was up into the air.

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You're told to knock these things down, you volleyball, spike
it to the ground, you don't tip it or anything
like tip it up.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Well he, I mean, he actually did a lot of
wrong things on this point.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Well, there's no question, there's no questions.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
That actually wasn't it his assignment And he said this later,
was that he was supposed to be the guy in
front of or behind rather Noah Brown. And because he
was late, I think that he just instinctually was like,
let me get to the ball, because he's the one
that tipped it right, right, So he, I mean absolutely

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kicking himself on Honestly, I don't I mean, I don't
know if he's going to be playing next week. I
don't think he's getting cut from the team or anything.
But I feel like the team, as the coaches, the
front office might want to make an example like we
played till the zero's right.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Another player who may not be playing next week is
Indianapolis Colts quarter back Anthony Richardson, who begged out of
the game because he was quote tired. Now, I've been
calling I've been following football for a long long time.
I've called games, I've talked to players, I have never
ever in the years I've been calling football thirty some

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odd years, I've been on practices, I've been on I've
been on sidelines. I have never ever ever heard a
player publicly admit never I'm tired. Never never heard them never.
And the thing about it is the message that sends
to everybody on your team. Now, if you begged out
of the game like Richardson did, laid in the game

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against the Houston Texans, a game they had a chance
to win. Yeah, you come into the sideline and you
do what he did. He took a knee. He he's
just been out a play where he's been scrambling around,
not as much as Jaydon Daniels with him, and he
ran from Washington to Baltimore, Annapolis, Philadelphia. Yeah, my goodness.
But you come to the sideline and in the post

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game a session, you say I felt my knee tweak,
my shoulder hurt. You don't admit to being tired.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
You say literally anything else but that.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
And so with that in mind, I think he's still
in it. When he's in his second year in the NFL.
This is going to be a learning thing for him.
But the other part of this is, right now. Colts
coach Shane Steikin told reporters today when asked if Anthony
Richardson starts next week, Steiken's response was quote, we're evaluating everything,
which isn't good. No, okay, okay, enough all that we got.

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We got to dive back. No, we don't.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
We can.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
We can talk about him, we can talk about it.
I don't. I don't want to talk about it. I'm
probably gonna talk about it. I don't want to get
into it. I just okay. The World Series is tonight,
Yankees and the Dodgers in New York. How about the
home run Freddy Freeman hit for the Grand Slam, all

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walk off Grand Slam of the World Series. That's pretty darm.
I wonder how many sports you're gonna go into. You're like,
have you heard of rugby seven's? I'm trying to find everything.
I possibly can't. Oh my escape, what happened in Cincinnati. Yes, okay,

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we're gonna get into all that coming up. I promise
after we do the break.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
You're gonna talk about the Browns or No, okay.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
I don't, I don't care. No, it's not I'm not. No,
we'll talk about I promise, we'll talk about it. It's
just I'm just I spent an hour putting the show.
When I was putting the show together earlier. How do
I want to approach this? I said some things yesterday.
I made a couple of social media posts actually after
the game, my feelings on what I saw yesterday.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
We're going to.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Dive into all that congratulations to the Browns. That was
a I mean, and of course, on a day when
Cleveland beats Baltimore, Cincinnati can't win at home a chance
to move to within a game of I'm not gonna
I'm already starting to get ramped up here. I'm not
gonna do it. Saturday in Columbus, speaking of getting ramped
up Ohio State fans, Well, now we're going down this

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road again. Ryan Day can't win the big games. Well,
he did win the game. He didn't win the game.
They just didn't go out and steam roll in Nebraska, which,
and I'll be honest with you, I thought they were
going to as well. I didn't see any reason why
they shouldn't. And I was kind of caught up in
what I was doing Saturday. I was calling Ohio's route
of Buffalo on Saturday down at Peton Stadium in Athens,

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kind of keeping check on scores. We would hear the score.
At one point, our producer our studio host Matt Schweikert
gave the score midway third quarter. He said it was
fourteen to nine Ohio State, and I thought, what so
tension went back to what I was doing. And then
by the time we were off the air, that game
still had a quarter and a half left or somewhere

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from what it felt like. So it kind of flipped
it on and saw that Nebraska had taken the lead.
And I know how calm and cool Ohio State fans are,
how calm and cool and collected they are, and how
they always are very positive about everything goes on with
the Yeah, sure, best fans in the world. Everybody's nice, calm,
cool and collected. Well, they're calling for Ryan Day's head.

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Now after the game it goes I mean, they still won,
but this is the team that I think this Saturday
will be the litmus test. James Franklin has said today
that Drew Aller, the Penn State quarterback, is a game
is probably going to be a game time decision. I
don't buy that for a second. Drew Aler is going
to play because if Drew Awler doesn't play, Penn State

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doesn't win that game. Correct, I mean, I don't care.
I mean that's their chance to win. And it was
funny to watch. I saw aler. I was watching a
little bit of the game on a Saturday night when
he was coming off the field after tweaking his knee
towards the end of the half. Somebody on the Wisconsin

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either in the stands or in the Wisconsin band or something,
somebody said something to him and our whirled around and
he dropped an F bomb. It was clear as day
what he said. And I don't know, I don't know
what was said to him, but luckily one of the
athletic trainers of the Penn State staff grabbed him say hey,
wait a minute, don't dive into this. Yeah, he was
getting you need to come off the field. Yeah. So yeah,

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But Buck Eyes will be at Penn State on Saturday
for the noontime kick at the Beaver Stadium. All right,
when we come back, we'll have to get into it.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
We're gonna do it, Marty, and it's gonna be okay.
I'll hold your hands.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
No it's not, no, it's not.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
It will we will get through it together.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
It's it's just not okay. I can't understand all right,
it wasn't one thing I was gonna mention. I can't
think of what it was. Oh, the Lioness is back
on the Yeah, what we watched the first two episodes
last night. It was always out Donna. Yeah, that's a
good show. The line is, I highly encourage you to

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watch that. See again. I'm trying to find something else,
anything else, anything, three fifteen the time, it's the press box,
Fox Sports ninet eighty w eight.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Get on the press box called Marty now at nine
to three seven by three, one six, one seven zero
the press box on Fox Sports nine eighty WN.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Eighty three eighteen. Welcome back to the program on this
Overreaction Monday. So good to have you with us here
as we roll up until five o'clock today. Next hour,
Chris Fogel, the head football coach at New Miami High School,
will join us. His school one of the three in
Division seven Region twenty eight which has decided to opt
out of the high school football playoffs coming up, and
we'll get his reaction to that and why his school

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did indeed take that that action and decided to not
participate in the playoffs, and we'll talk to coach Fogal
coming up. He was nice enough to agree to give
us some time a little bit later on today during
the program as well too. I do want to say
one thing about something had happened on Saturday afternoon. I
had a chance to meet to meet this guy a
couple of times. Obviously I don't know him. I didn't

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know him well at all, but the passing of Jim Donovan,
the long time radio play by a play voice of
the Cleveland Browns. As we've talked about before on this program,
certain play by play announcers are just ingrained in communities
minds and hearts and ears, and Jim Donovan was one
of those and passed away after a battle with cancer.

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And Donovan hit after the game on Sunday, Kevin Stefansk
and Andrew Berry drove to his home and gave the
game ball to his wife and daughter. And you just
can't underestimate the feelings involved in this for the franchise
and for everyone surrounding Cleveland, because Donovan had that kind

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of impact on the community and on Brown's games on radio.
He was enthusiastic, he was he bled Orange and Brown.
He was a Cleveland Brown, and he was very important
to the fabric of the city of Cleveland and calling
Brown's games on radio and passed away a Saturday afternoon

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at the age of sixty eight and again after a
battle with cancer. There was a nice tribute to him
yesterday at the game in Cleveland as well. There should
have been. Yeah. I mean, as I said, there are
certain guys in this business who are just ingrained that
way in the public's mindset. PAULK Keels was one of them.
Marty Brenneman is one of them. Tom Hamilton is one

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of them. In Cleveland. You can go to about any
community who has a franchise or a college team of
any the guys who've been calling these games for years.
Vince Scully in Los Angeles obviously was so much a Dodger.
I mean, heck, he was calling Dodger games in the
Korean War before he decided to when he called it

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a career a couple of years ago and then passed away.
There were just so many guys like that. But Jim
Donovan passing away on Sunday at the age of sixty
or Saturday at the age of sixty eight. So I
want to make sure we mentioned that another thing out
of the Browns game yesterday that went over the Ravens.
Linebacker Jeremiah o Lusu Koramoa has been released from the hospital.
He was carted off the field yesterday. Scary moments there,

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but he's telling everybody that all is well. So no
word yet on his status for this week when they
take on the Chargers. But he suffered that neck injury
in the third quarter of the game yesterday, so that's
a positive that he has been released from the hospital
and j Okay as he is referred to in Cleveland.
We'll wait and see his status as the week moves along.
A couple of other things to mention before we move on.

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The two athletic directors at Michigan and Michigan State are
both expressing there dismay over what happened at the end
of the game Saturday night. When Michigan beat Michigan State
in the Paul Bunyan rivalry game twenty four to seventeen.
Michigan State defensive lineman Anthony Jones and Michigan tied end
Colston Loveland engaged in the scuffle which evolved into it.
Just a big fight right in the middle of the

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field at the end of the game. Number of players
were involved in it, and they've had problems before between
those two. That's where the issue started in the tunnel
at ann Arbor a few years ago when the two
teams got into a scrape in the tunnel at the
Michigan Stadium. So there's a lot to still be determined
with that. The Kansas City Chiefs win yesterday, so what

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do they do today? They go out and acquired Josh
Ucha from the New England Patriots, one of the top
pass rushers in the NFL. Again, I'm gonna start getting
hole wound up here because my team can't do that.
But at any rate, had a couple of sacks and
six games. Didn't play yesterday because he was a healthy scratch.

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Amid the trade. Entry the Patriots was like, okay, we're
not We're not gonna play you. We're just gonna just
let you sit and watch and we're gonna find out
what we can get for we don't want you get hurt.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Turns out they didn't need him.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, they beat the Jets, which is nice. Yeah, because
I don't know about you, but I'm tired of the Jets.
I'm tired of hearing about Aaron Rodgers. I'm just tired
of the Jets, and unfortunately still get them on primetime
another three or four weeks here, I think it is so.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
But I mean I think that I just think the
Jets are another example of and I mean the commanders
were this up until what i've I feel like six
weeks ago. But it's it's a culture issue. It doesn't
matter how good of talent you bring into the building
if at the core you guys are not on the
same page. And I mean people have spoken about what

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kind of leader Aaron Rodgers is. I mean, when you
watch that guy after a game, do you feel like
you want to play football for him?

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Not at all? Not at all. And I'm I mean,
I'm just tired of the Jets. I'm tired hearing about them.
So at any rate, That's why when we talk, that's
why we don't dive into national things very much. I mean,
I will mention it because it is still a little
bit of a story. But we're over and we're done
with that, all right. Yesterday in Cincinnati, what is it,
three twenty four, I guess see if I can find
seven or eight more topics to for it. Yeah, before

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I got it, I have to I have to talk
about have you heard so yesterday? So yesterday, Bengals get
the ball first seventeen plays seventy yards, ate up almost
nine minutes of first quarter clock, and I'm thinking, as
they're moving down the field, I'm thinking, Okay, this is
what we've been waiting on, and this is against a

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good defense, a good team. And even at ten ten,
I wasn't completely upset at the intermission. The thing that
bothered me the most at ten ten was the Bengals
again have this uncanny ability sometimes to leave points on
the field. They did that two plays, du two play calls.

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I'm gonna get into that. The first one I completely
and vehemently disagreed with was the Evan McPherson field goal attempt.
I still don't understand why you run a kicker out
there who is struggling from fifty plus to try a
field goal in that situation when the obvious, at least
to me, the obvious play is punt and pin the

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Eagles deep. You have to do that because your defense
has proven it could not stop them. You gave them
another short field to play on. And what did they do?
They scored. They scored the last five times they had
the ball. I mean, it was just it was just
I just don't understand that mindset. Evan McPherson has been very,

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very good in the past, and I'm not saying he's bad.
He's not, but I think he is. His past is
making the Bengals offense, namely Zach Taylor, feel way too
comfortable with just having a drive stall out on about
the forty yard line. Well, we're just gonna run back there.
Name kick a fifty five yard field goal. Fifty five

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yard field goals. I mean, you're rolling the dice there.
That's not a check kick. Yeah, no, you're rolling the
dice there. And and as good as he has been,
I mean I referenced the Super Bowl year, Well that's
one of the reasons they got to the Super Bowl
because he was drilling fifty four, fifty five, fifty six
the kick that beat Tennessee in the semi finals. It

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was like fifty six yards, but that was that. That
apparently is the mindset is okay, Well, if the drive
stalls of the forty were gonna be fine, I mean
you go back to the Baltimore game, the overtime loss.
He was Zach Taylor was perfectly content with running three
very dull plays to get the ball spoted about the
about the thirty five thirty six yard line, and then
we'll run our guy. I think he'll kick a fifty

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four yard field goal and we'll go home. Well, obviously
didn't work. Now, fairness, in that game, if the snap
is good, he might have made it. Because even even
with the bad even with the bad hold, not a
bad snap, ba hold, with the bad hold, he still
had enough leg on it. He just pushed it on
as he wide left. So at any rate, that play
I just I've emiely disagreed with. And then the other

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one that everybody has been talking about was the fourth
and one call where they run the tailor special that
will flare to Jamar Chase in the flat. Now, I've
heard some differing views on it. One has said I
saw one Bengals rider say that if Anthony yose Vash
holds his block, then that play probably works. Okay, that's fine. Still,

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you're in that part of the field where even there
you and that was on the Bengal side of the fifty.
It wasn't. They weren't in plus territory. They were at
about the forty yard line in that area. That's definitely
where you punt and penn Philadelphia. Yeah, you don't take
the writs again because your defense had not stopped them
all day long. And why you do that? I just

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I mean, I was I was yelling at the TV
when I heard that the offense when they said the
offense is coming back on the field. No, no, you
can't do that. So those to me were the two
biggest plays. The other thing that is, Okay, they're three
and five right now, and your record indicates what you are.

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This is a three and five football team. I back
in the preseason, everybody kept saying super Bowl, super Bowl,
super Bowl when they talked about this team and the
talent level. I didn't think super Bowl. I kind of
held it out a little bit. I thought they were
good enough certainly to win the division, yeah, and to
get into them and make a run at it. I

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wouldn't have been surprised if they had. If they have
done that. So but the issues right now that have
popped up are ones that were kind of hanging on
the fringe with this team, And one of the big
issues right now is the interior offensive line. Cordell Vohlsen
at left guard, Alex Kappa and Karris at the other

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two line spots are becoming liabilities right now because they
can't run the football up the middle of the field.
That's another reason why Zach Taylor elected to run that
stupid play. I'm fourth down and go for it. And again,
doesn't that go back to understanding where your team is
at from a momentum, from a talent standpoint, you have

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to punt and pin them deep and not get And
sure Philadelphia might have gone seventy five yards and scored,
but wouldn't you rather them try to go seventy five
than go thirty five or forty five. I mean, I'm
not the brightest ball on the plan. Everybody knows that,
but even I can figure that out. Oh yeah, absolutely.
This all circles back to what I think is really

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a big issue right now now that there's been a
lot of call saying Zach Taylor needs to be fired,
Zach Taylor needs to be fired. As I've said before,
I don't believe in calling for a coach's job. I
just don't. I just I just have a hard time
with that because we don't know what goes on in
the locker room. We don't know other areas. Because as
I've said before, and I said this yesterday and got

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a little bit bit back and forth with our friend
Marcus Hartman from the Day and Daily News, I think
from everything I've seen, everything I've heard, Zach Taylor has
the locker room, which a lot of times is a
hard thing to do in the NFL. It's a hard
thing to do. So he has the locker room, or
at least had the locker room. Starting to see a
couple of signs. I mean, Jamar Chase even said after

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the game, I wish we'd run another play. Yeah, I mean,
he was the focus of the play. But I think
it's painfully obvious. Somebody has to step in, be it
Mike Brown, be it Katie Blackburn, Brown, be it somebody,
and tell Zach Taylor to give up play calling, give
it to somebody else, give it to Dan Pitcher, do

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something else, because obviously he can't do it anymore. I
didn't never really thought he could do it to begin with.
I mean, I think there are obvious issues there, but
and all you have to do to find out why
it works. Why that works is drive up I seventy
five or I seventy one to Cleveland and look what
happened yesterday. Kevin Stefanski managed the game? Did he not?

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I thought he did. Yeah. From everything I saw keeping
track of both games, I thought he managed the game
because his head was clear, or so it seemed. Or
Zach Taylor, you could tell, I just I don't understand
the mindset of that. I know there are some coaches
that do him, and Andy Reid does it in Philadelphia.

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Sean McVay does it. And that's where Zach Taylor learned
it from when he was with the Rams, was that
Sean McVay does it with the Rams, but Andy Reid
obviously does it. But Andy Reid's got a generational quarterback.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
In his pocket, correct, and who is already an extension
of himself in the field, right.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
I don't think the I don't think Joe Burrow and
Zach Taylor are an extension of one another at all,
because I can just tell, Like today I watched Joe
Burrow's press conference. There was a glazed out in the
middle of the field look in Joe's face, which I
haven't seen a long, long time look on his face.
He just looked like he was like like he's at

(28:10):
wits end and doesn't know what else to do. Yeah,
I mean, look at the day he had yesterday. He
was throwing the ball all over the field. I mean,
Mike Gazeki had a tremendous day.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
They looked good. I mean, I think that is the
wildest part of the Bengals continuing to lose. They look good.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Defense.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
The defense, Okay, the defense is the problem. The defense
has been a problem. And but the thing is, the
defense has always kind of been the redheaded stepchild of
that organization. Right now the offense, though, is not able
to overcome the shortcomings of the defense.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
The problem, well, the problem is twofold. As I said,
Number one, you've suddenly developed up some serious issues on
the interior part of the offensive line. Absolutely not having
Orlando Brown yesterday who had to leave the game with
a leg injury. Although I thought Cody Ford was serviceable
at left tackle when he came in. But with the

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issues on the interior offensive line, it prevents you from
running the football. They couldn't get a yard when they
needed it yesterday. They could not get a yard and
I don't know how you if how or if you
solve that right now at week number eight of the season.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
Now that disgruntled interior alignment somewhere, I would hope.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
So there there is this mindset, and Joe Burrow, give
him credit, was all team today, Hey, we can still win.
We have to win least seven of our last nine.
They're not going to do that because number one, they're
gonna run another team that they simply can't stop running
the football. That's going to happen again. I think we
all kind of got lulled into a sense of false uh,

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false security when they slammed the door on the Giants
and the Browns running games. The Browns running game with
the Nick Chubb not one obviously they kind of call it,
kind of caught a break there, And I think it
was also kind of obvious that no one wants to
play for Deshaun Watson. That's pretty obvious. So those are
the issues to me. But Zach Taylor has to give

(30:21):
up play calling. He just has to because that that
to me, is one of the big things that's kind
of hamstringing this team right now because you get play
calls like you did yesterday on fourth and one. You
just can't continue to do that. And with this guy
at the helm, you're wasting generational talent. You can you

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can you tell me another NFL team that would not
like to have number nine throwing the ball to number
one on their roster. Tell me when the wouldn't Maybe
the Commander, Yeah right now, we're fine. Now, maybe the Chiefs,
although they'd like to have number one out, they would,
they would, But yeah, it's just it's just frustrating. But again,
you're three and five. Your record says what you are,

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and that's what they are. And have it won a
home game? How bad is that? Three thirty five the
press box, Fox Sports nine eighty w.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
One, get on the press box, called Marty now at
nine to three seven by three one, six, one seven
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Speaker 3 (31:29):
And welcome back to the program with you on this
overreaction Monday's to look back and everything can happened over
the weekend through all of this, I forgot to tell
you we got a couple of fan polls up today.
They're actually getting a really good response. Number one we're
asking you today, Ohio State survived against heavy underdog Nebraska
on Saturday. We're asking you what was your reaction where
the Buckeye is looking ahead to Penn State where they
poorly prepared for the game, the Husker simply outplayed Ohio State,

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or a win is a win, Let's move on, and
right now a win is a win, Let's move on
is getting thirty two percent of the vote right now,
followed closely by poorly prepared for the game and the
Huskers outplayed Ohio State, getting some responses in on this.
Since the Sports Minute says, I hope I can look
back and think I was silly to overreact, but I
am deeply concerned after that Nebraska game, O line looks

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so ineptic times that a team like Penn State or
even Michigan could flourish. Not sure if changing the game
plan to get the ball out quicker or hope O
line improves. That's interesting as well too, because of the
fact that Josh Simmons has done for the year, and
then his backup went down on Saturday as well for
Ohio State, so they're going to have to have a
third stringer in there this week against Penn State. And

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since the Sports Minute says Ninny Lions are pretty good
across the front line. So the news checks in thought
Ohio State was just going through the motions, didn't really
adjust to anything. Nebraska did till late fourth quarter where
they looking forward. Who knows, but it was a lackluster performance.
For sure. They better get their blank together in time
for Penn State. And that's absolutely right, and we'll see

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what happens on Saturday in State College. It should be
a very, very fun day of college football. Also, we're
asking you today three area schools opted out of the
OHSA football playoffs. They would have been the number sixteen
seed and faced number one Marrion Local. We're asking you today,
do you agree with each school's decision? Yes, each have
their reasons. The problem really is the sixteen team regions.

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Let the players decide if they want to opt out
or not or no. They should have gone ahead and
played the game. And right now thirty five percent of
you are going with the problem is the sixteen team regions.
So that discussion will continue as long as the OHSA
continues with sixteen team regions. That's not going anywhere. I'm
here to tell you that right now, that's not happening.

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So that's a big part of all this as well too,
So again next hour, Chris Fogel, the head football coach
at New Miami High School, one of the three teams
that opted out, we'll visit with us and we're looking
forward to hearing his comments on his team's decision to
do just that. Again, both those polls are open and
available for you to participate in right up until five o'clock.
No early voting, no mail in votes on this. You

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simply go online and vote on our poll, which is
the easiest way to do it, So you can do that,
and we look forward to hearing your comments and your
responses to that. And again we've got a lot of
interesting responses on all of those so far. Today, Penn
State coach James Franklin says the quarterback Drew Aller could
be a game time call on Saturday against Ohio State.
Tweaked the knee his right knee late in the first

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half of the win at Wisconsin on Saturday night. So
we'll see what Alur's status is when the Nittany Lions
and Buckeyes meet a little bit later on the week.
I'm sure we'll get a further update. I don't think
there's anything Drew Aller out of that game on Saturday,
especially after as bad as he was last year against
Ohio State. The Ohio native, you can just kind of

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sense that he wants another crack at Ohio State. Speaking
of which, a crack at Ohio State, Kelly, I sent
you the Will Howard SoundBite. Yeah, I want to play that.
This is Ohio State quarterback Will Howard after the game
Saturday against Nebraska talking about Penn State this.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Week when I am make it.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
I grew up a Penn State fan. I wanted to
go there my whole life.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
They didn't think I was good enough, but I guess
we'll see next week if I was.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Hmm. Interesting. So Will Howard already got a case of
the gool a little bit here getting ready for Penn
State on Saturday, had interesting comments there. So again will
be Saturday at Beaver Stadium in State College, Pennsylvania. Noon
time came. I'm kind of looking forward to Saturday. This
will be the first Saturday I've had this season to

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sit around and watch college football. That's true, Ohio Go
Ohio is now in the midst of the action part
of the schedule, so we don't Ohio does not play
again until November the sixth, next a week from Wednesday
at Kent State. So got a little time here, Yeah,
good old time. Yeah, so a Saturday afternoon to watch
a little football, and just so happens, the schedule maker

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was kind enough to leave open a pretty big game. Yeah,
nice one, I said, Yeah, I was off my nice
something to watch that. So to do that for me,
I greatly appreciate that. Well, Ohio was good on Saturday.
I know we're kind of off target here, but Tim
Albustee was really good on Saturday, stroll past Buffalo forty
seven to sixteen, had a defensive conversion for a score,

(36:28):
two point defensive conversion on Saturday ball and Caden Schmidt's
linebacker intercepted a two point conversion pass of the goal
line and ran at one hundred yards the other way
for the two point conversion. So yeah, I've seen those
plays before. It's been a while since I've seen one.
I've never seen nobody go one hundred yards for a week. Yeah,
that's extreme. Yeah, that was pretty good. Dank you and

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congratulations to Miami head coach Chuck Martin, who on Saturday
and his team's win over Central Michigan became Miami's all
time winning His coach had a nice video tribute up
on the board for him on Saturday, and so congratulations
at Chuck for that. He and his wife Dulcy were
on the field on Saturday celebrating in a great moment

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there for Chuck Martin at a place where they've had
some pretty fair football coaches there, you know, guys like
Scham Beckler, Hayes, Walker, you know some people like that, couple,
couple of notable guys. Yeah, I have done pretty well
going on. So congratulations to coach Martin for that. And

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by the way, college basketball starts a week from today,
and we'll start on Wednesday with our weekly visits with
Miami's head coaches on the program, So we're looking forward
to that as well too. Three forty five as the
time we come back, we'll go up to Cleveland and
get some thoughts on what happened as the Browns beat
the Baltimore Ravens twenty nine, twenty four The press Box,
Fox Sports nine, eighty WO and.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
AA get on the press box called Marty Now at
nine to three seven by three, one, six, one seven
zero The press Box on Fox Sports nine eighty Wnay.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Three forty nine in the press box Fox Sports nine
eighty wo any, Welcome back to the program as we
near the top of the hour. Next hour, Chris Fogelll,
head football coach at New Miami High School, visit with us.
He is a team one of the three teams that
in Division seven Region twenty eight decided to opt out
of a postseason bid into the OHSA football playoffs, which
started this Friday, and we'll talk to him about that
decision coming up next hour right here in the program.

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So we'll do that. Later on in the week, we'll
have our previews of the Penn State game for you
and some other things as well too. Zach Taylor said
today that t Higgins and Orlando Brown Junior are both
day to day. Again, aren't we all approaching the game
with the Las Vegas Raiders on Sunday. I've said before
in the show, I paid no attention to betting or
things along those lines or odds. Somehow, I just saw

(38:56):
though in reading the update on the two where the
Bengals are like eight point five favorites going into that game. Okay, yes,
I believe so, oh hmm, all right, Okay, whatever if
you're gonna take, if you use that for whatever it's worth.
I don't know. I'm still trying to figure that one out.

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That's why I don't pay any attention. That's why those
things mean nothing to me. So at any rate, All right,
let's move on Browns yesterday.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
They're actually two point five point favorites.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Well, it started out though, Yeah, I saw somebody say,
yeah last night, it was like eight points.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
And that's where it started. But by the by the
time the game started at one pm.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Two point okay, well good, well whatever, But still how
their favorites is staggering in its own right, disrespectful to
just because just because they're at home, I guess against
against the Raiders on Saturday or Sunday or whatever the
heck it is. All right, let's let's let's move on
to what happened in Cleveland yesterday. I will say this,
I figured the Browns would play the Ravens tough, regardless

(40:07):
of the situation at quarterback. Yesterday. The Ravens were coming
off of an impressive win on Monday night. It was
a short week, then having to stay on the road
come play at Cleveland against obviously, this is for Browns fans,
this is their outside of the Steelers, this is their game,
and for obvious reasons, that's the you know, it's the

(40:29):
old Browns against the new Browns. And I get that,
I fully do. But the longer that they stayed in
the game, and again I was kind of watching both
at the same time, the more they stayed in the game,
the more you could kind of feel that they were
gonna win that game. And Kyle Hamilton, I mean, there

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was never a may not be an easier pass to
intercept than the one he dropped on that game winning
Cleveland drive. How do you do that? I mean, ball
was right in his hands. And that's the one thing
about Jamis Winston that you could say about Joe Flacco.

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And for as good as he would be for thirty
or forty eight or fifty nine minutes or whatever the
heck it is, there's going to be a couple of
plays where he's going to throw the football away. And
he almost did it yesterday. Kyle Hamilton makes that interception.
It's an entirely different feeling today with what we're talking about.
But he didn't, and they did. And then he threw

(41:34):
a beautiful pass to Cedric Tillman who just raced right
behind the Baltimore defense and scored. And again a game
where Lamar Jackson doesn't step up and guide them to
a win. That to me was one of the games
where if you're Lamar Jackson, you don't let your team lose.

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You just don't let your team lose.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Did they drop like six or seven pass.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
I'm not taking anything away from that. I'm not saying
they didn't. But some of those passes were catchable balls
that should have been caught. But then there were a
couple that were the Lamar Jackson where he's throwing it
with about seven hundred miles an hour to receiver who's
about seven yards away. He has that capability too, But

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at the same time, that's Lamar Jackson. They should not
have lost that game. If you're that quarterback with that team,
you don't lose that game. You just can't. You can't
allow your team to lose that game. The last play
where they were moving down the field again kind of
like the game they lost to the Raiders. The heck

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is he doing.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
That?

Speaker 3 (42:44):
To me is the big area of Lamar Jackson, And again,
he's a fantastic quarterback. And a lot of teams would
love to have him in their backfield. I'm not arguing
that point. Oh heck, I think the Browns would like
to have him back there. But at the same time,
he still has that uncanny ability to not get his
team over a hump, and he couldn't get him over
that hump yesterday. Yeah, I mean, I just don't understand

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that he has that capability. But on the flip side
of it, O'Kelly, the Browns looked like an entirely different
football team yesterday. I was gonna say a different football team.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
This feels like the first time we're actually getting to
judge the Browns for who they are, not what Deshaun
Watson brings or doesn't bring. But I think now we
can do a fair evaluation of this this squad. And
it's the first time where we're in week eight, and
it's the first time I feel like I've watched the

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Browns play, not just Deshaun Watson flounder.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
And you know what told me right away that we're
looking at a different team was I think it was
their first possession, Jameis Winston's throwing the ball downfield. Throwing
the ball downfield, where So that tells you one of
two things. Either number one, Deshaun Watson physically wasn't capable
of doing that, or the Browns coaching staff didn't trust

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him to do that, or both, or.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
Those guys in front of him were not motivated to
put in that extra effort to give him that extra second.
I mean, really though, like we we talk about the
energy of the room, the Browns, the energy around the Browns.
A cloud has been lifted.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
And yeah, yeah, you could sense it, you could sit
That's what I said. Yeah, they look like an entirely
different football.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
But that extra those extra efforts like those, that's a
winning team. That's like a team that is everybody is
playing together because we feel like we're a family. That
was not the energy around the Browns before.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
And I think I just say, I think, Kelly, you're
right on that. But I think what it is, perhaps
more than anything else, is that Deshaun Watson just physically
wasn't able to do that, just could not throw the
ball downfield with the type of oomph that Jameis Winston can.
And it makes a difference when, yeah, when you can
heave the ball. I mean, how many times when we
watch the Bengals play. When Joe Burrow starts throwing downfield,

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what's to do to a defense? You guys spread out exactly.
It changes your entire approach. And once Winston starts started
doing that, it made them look entirely different on offense
because you had to respect that. You couldn't just bunch
nine guys at the line of scrimmage. Well, you're not
beating us, which is what everybody had been doing prior
to that against against Deshaun Watson. It's all he needed

(45:22):
to do exactly. So the defense. I so, their defense
still has had some issues yesterday. Their offensive line man
had a couple of crucial motion calls, especially in that
final drive. But all that being said, just the different
feel about the team yesterday. You could sense it when

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they walked on the field when the game started, and
as I said, that first throw downfield. Now they have
the they have the Michigan Chargers coming in this this Sunday.
I mean, it's not out of the realm of possibility
they can win that game or that will be the
other part of this as well too. There were so
much emotions surrounding yesterday, the Jim Donovan passing the feel

(46:05):
of a fresh start. Yeah, with with with the Shawn gone,
the Ravens in town. If it would have been anybody else,
I just wonder if it would have been the Falcons
or the Bears. They're just somebody else other than the
Ravens being there. There would have still been that air,

(46:26):
but it may not have been the emotional oomph that
it was with Baltimore being there. I agree that the
stars just kind of aligned yesterday, I think for Cleveland.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
Again, yeah, it felt like they were. They were geared
up to win that game.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Right, And as we said earlier with the Bengals, your
record says what you are. Well, the Browns are a
two and six football team. Oh let's not. Let's not
hide from that either. But still, you got it. You
can't take anything away from they did something the Bengals
didn't do. They beat Baltimore. Yes, Bengals should have done it,
but but credit.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
We will see though, who the Browns really are in
these next coming weeks.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you'll find out I think a little
bit this coming Sunday if they come out with that
same hitching their giddy up that they came out with yesterday.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Again, Hey, as bad as things have been up there.
I think if you're a Browns fan, you just slammed
the door on the first seven games. Those things never happen. Yeah, yeah,
this is this is your season. Now you're in. The
fan base was energized. Jamis Winston talked a lot about
that after the game, how they're playing for the fans.
And you never heard Watson say that. You never talk

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about that.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
He's so fun to listen to. He is so fun
to listen to.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
He is he he gets it. He understands the relationship
you have to have with a fan base. And maybe
because of the baggage that Deshaun Watson carried with him,
he kind of knew he was never going to win
them back no matter what.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
He did, unless the football exactly and he knew he
couldn't do that.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
He couldn't do that. So but hey, it's a victory.
And as I said, that one in six, that's almost
like your preseason. You just filed out away and forget
about it. I'll see what you can do with these
final eleven games, is that right? Or final ten games? Heck,
if if this team somehow manages to go five and five,
the rest of the way. That's a that's a heck
of a turnaround. But there are bigger questions to down

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the road if they do do something like that. Do
you mean does that mean Jameis Winston's your guy?

Speaker 4 (48:29):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (48:29):
God, oh god, Oh, that's the big question. Three fifty
nine The press Box, Fox Sports nine eighty.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
W Welcome to the press Box with Marty Banister. The

(49:14):
latest on all local sports from right State to the
Dayton Flyers, from the Reds and Buckeyes to the Bengals
and Browns. Called Marty now at nine three seven by three,
one six, one seven zero the press Box on Fox
Sports nine eighty W on e.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
He's one of the options.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
And you know again the point didn't work.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
And that's one hundred percent on me.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
You got that right, pal. Sorry, that's Zach Taylor, Bengals
head coach, being asked about the fourth down point. Welcome
back to the problem. But I'm not bitter though. Welcome
back to the press box, Fox Sports nine eighty w
Hold right up until five o'clock. Here are the programs today,
killing me. He's longside producing the program coming up this hour.
They have more coach at New Miami High School, Chris

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Fogel will visit with us and we'll get his thoughts
on why his football team was among three to decide
not to take part in THEHSA football playoffs this weekend
starting on Friday, and they would have been offered. They
would have been the number sixteen seed and had to
go up against number one seed, two time defending champion
maryon local. So we'll hear his comments on that, and
I appreciate him coming up because I think some coaches

(50:23):
might have just said, you know what, I don't want
to talk about it. We made our call rather than
with it, and I appreciate coach Fogel for doing that
and giving us some time today. And again, as I
told Coach Fogel and the other ones I reached out
to today via email, this is not a hit piece.
I'm not coming on to make you look bad. I
don't want you to come on. I'm not going to
rip you a part or anything. I just want to
know your thoughts on it, yeah, and the reasoning for it,

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because there are a lot of people out there who think, well,
these guys are just afraid to play. They just don't
want to play.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
And if you don't got the bodies I mean, you
can't invent students all of a sudden student athletes, especially.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Well, and going up against what you're going up against
with an unhealthy with with thirteen players, fourteen players, that's
not even fair to the team you're playing. Yeah, so
uh not as if Mary Local needs any more help.
Oh my goodness, just dismantled cold Water on Friday night. Oh,
by the way, speaking of that, that that cold Water

(51:16):
a Merry Local game. At high school football games, they
do fifty to fifty draws where you can buy a
like a like a lottery type ticket. What the prize
was cold Water at the Merry Local game Friday? It
gives you idea what the attendance was. The prize was
twenty two thousand, five hundred dollars. What Yeah, that was
the fifty to fifty draw was twenty two thousand, five
hundred dollars. Oh my goodness, somebody wanted.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
I'm gonna need it. I'm gonna need to start attending
these games.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Well, especially that one. Yeah, when they play next year,
get your fifty to fifty dig When that person comes
around selling those tickets, don't say no. Oh yeah, twenty
two thousand, five hundred dollars. Insane, just staggering, just just
stagger there. So yeah, amazing again. World Series is tonight,

(52:05):
Game three Yankees Dodgers tonight at Yankee Stadium in New York.
It is a Monday night football game tonight. Giants and
Steelers play over in Pittsburgh this evening and that will
kick off about ten minutes after they throw the first
pitch in the baseball game at Yankee Stadium in New York.
So there's that. Ohio State filed an appeal to the
Big Ten Conference on behalf of a defensive back Rvel

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Reese's targeting call in the fourth quarter of the game
against Nebraska, the call which took I think about an
hour and a half to sort through. It seemed like
they looked at that forever before they decided that it
was targeting and he was tossed out of the game. Well,
they fought an appeal. The Big Ten has ruled on
that saying that it was not targeting and Reese will

(52:48):
be fully available for the game this Saturday against Penn State.
Initially it was said that Reese would have to sit
out the first half because of the penalty call the
targeting call, so he will be at eligible to play
the full game against Penn State on Saturday. So the
Big Ten ruling on that call yesterday so or earlier today,

(53:10):
the call in the game on Saturday. So there's that
this date in Ohio State football history in two thousand
and seven two twenty sixteen, j T. Barrett went nineteen
for nineteen throwing the football in the fourth quarter. That's
Ohio State roar back and beat Penn State in one
of the classic games at Ohio Stadium. That was about
the time where people were saying that j T. Barrett

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wasn't good enough to quarterback Ohio State. Time to make
a change.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
J T.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Barrett at number one.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
J T.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Barrett is a class guy and it's going to be
at some point, I think down the road, j T.
Barrett's going to be a head coach somewhere and be
a very good head football coach. Just a class act.
I've related this story a couple times before, but I
think it's worth repeating. When I was on the sidelines
on the Ohio State radio work went when the Buckeyes

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beat Oregon in the National Championship game. That was the
year that JT went down injured in the Michigan game,
and Cardial Jones came on to guide Ohio State to
the championship. After the game, all the celebrations going on,
j T Barrett sitting on the bench behind the Buckeye
sideline with his cast on and the the h two

(54:22):
wheeler that he was using to move around. He wasn't
getting up and getting in the middle of wall the
all the celebration going on because there had been a
little dangerous for him. So I walked up to him.
I said, hey, Jt. Because we had gotten to known
each other, I said, hey, would you mind if we
do an interview and we talk about winning the championship?
And he goes, nah, dude, he goes talk to them.
This ain't about me. Wow. And I was like, well,
it kind of is. And he goes, nah, it's not

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not about me. I talked to talk to the guys
in the field, and.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
I like, how humble humble he is.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Yeah. That that that that that just impressed the heck
out of me. It did and always has, and I
always like a retelling that story because that's just amazed me.
His reaction to that, Now, dude, ain't about me, It's
about them. Go talk to them. So all right, wow,
we mentioned it prior to top of the break or
the top of the hour break. Let let's look ahead

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a little bit here. Let's say the Brown's go on
a little bit of a run here, which I don't think.
I don't know. It's it's hard the NFL. You can't
really tell. I mean, you just don't know right now
with this league, who can who won't? Who will? Who
will who won't go on some kind of a run. Well,
let's say they do and Jameis Winston just goes and

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just balls out the rest of the way. What do
you do if you're Cleveland? Is he your guy? I mean,
what's your reaction to this? I know we're ways away
from that, but I think it's it's worth kind of
starting to think a little bit about because I don't

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know what you're You have to think about this a
little bit, don't you. If you're the Browns, probably you
kind of stu I mean, or you know you don't think. So, No, Okay, look,
what what if what do they get? What do they have?
What are they're two and six? They have nine games left?
What if he guides them to a seven and two finish?

Speaker 1 (56:15):
No?

Speaker 3 (56:17):
No, you can't know. I don't know. You don't know.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
I do what because we Because James Winston. James Winston
is is thirty one years old. I think he's We
have seen him play football at this level and he
has a ceiling, a ceiling we've all seen, just like
Joe Flacco who got them to the playoffs, We've seen

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what he can do. The Bears are the Bears. Lol.
The Browns will be in a position to draft high
yet again. Uh huh, and they need a quarterback. That's
what they need. They James Winston. They should keep, They
should won one million percent keep And in fact, depending

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on what where they draft next year, I would have
Jamis start even next season and let your rookie quarterback
figure it out, get get used to the pace of
the game. All these things. Jameis is great in the
locker room. He also knows how to be a second
like the second in command. He knows he knows how
to allow the leader of the football team to lead.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Stop stop right there, stop right there. Play the cut
that you played at the top at the opening show
Play that cut, play that cut, play it, Oh my,
Jameis Winston. After the game yesterday, play Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
When I am making great decisions one play at a time,
I am a great NFL quarterback. I am certain of that.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
I'm not certain of it. Jameis.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
You may not be, but he is. And your your
comment about him being kind of the oh, I don't know,
hold the leash on the rookie. Yeah, no way, no
way he's gonna buy that. There's all you do. Was
listening to that comment. There's no way he's buying that.
No way, I think, especially especially Kelly. I mean again,

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you can't say no to any of this because of
the way this NFL season works. If he goes seven
and two or six and three and they finished nine
and eight, the cascade of Browns fans who are gonna
want him to be the guy is going to be
through the roof.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
But it is nine and eight is the best. Jameis
Winston is gonna get you and nine and eight, you
know because I mean, because we've seen him play, like
I understand, he has his moments. He absolutely has his moments.
He's very fun to watch, he's fun to listen to.
I would love to be in a locker room with him.
I would love to be in a huddle with him.

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I think his zingers are some of the best singers
in all of sports, not even just football, in all
of sports. He's entertaining. That's kind of it though for
Jameis Winston and I look, I I like the guy.
I'm just saying, he's not anyone's franchise quarterback. I'm sorry,
he's not any not any of these teams. Okay, none

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of these teams, not the Panthers, not any He's not
that guy.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
I wish he was. But what But but there's a
big part of this. This is a franchise namebe the
last great quarterback they've had. Thank you? Yeah that guy? Yeah, Yeah,
that's that's where they're at. That's where they're at. And
if you look at the NFL Draft coming up, can
you tell me a great quarterback that's coming out this year?

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Are you gonna? I mean cam wardon Miami Sanders.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
I think cam Ward is better than Shador actually.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
But it is. Okay, but is cam Ward better than
Jameis Winston?

Speaker 4 (59:51):
Yeah, I'll give you that.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Maybe not maybe not. Okay, See that that's that's the problem.
You're going to have to be cheaper, right, And well, yeah,
I'm not saying that you that you you throw the
flag or you know, you throw the cannon on the
rest of the season and hope that you go two
and fifteen so you can get that number one pick,
because that's not going to happen. But at the same time,
I'm just saying that you have a chance here with

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this guy at quarterback, if this, if all these good
feelings continue from well what he did yesterday, if this
kind of rolls along, as I said, if they somehow
manage to go nine and eight or ten and seven,
which they won't, but you can't rule it out that
possibility and this guy throws twenty seven touchdown passes or

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whatever the heck it is the rest of the way out,
you can't. If you're the Browns, you're in a very
difficult situation all of a sudden, I don't know, very
difficult situation.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
Because we saw that season from Jamis Winston with the
with the Buccaneers one year and then the next year
he gave you the exact reverse thats s and so
we know that, like there are some guys Ryan Fitzpatrick,
for example, he is a great guy to come in
in the clutch and win you some games when he

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starts the season as your go to guy for whatever reason.
I think a lot of it is mental. He cannot
get you anywhere you want to go.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you that if
this somehow happens, the best case scenario for Cleveland in
this is if he has maybe one or two more
of these games like that and they go four and
thirteen or five and twelve, which is probably the more
likely of the scenarios the rest of the way out.
But if he comes out and as I said, he

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starts throwing dimes all over the place, Chubb starts running
the football, their defense is good enough to keep them
in every game they play, are you? I mean yeah,
when you get to January, you're see they're not making
a playoffs. I'm not going that far. But if they
do go nine to eight and this guy has a
heck of a run, what do you do?

Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
No, it's you have to you have to be a
student of history in this game.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
You've gotta you got it. The guy has already said,
if I'm doing the right things, I'm a great NFL quarterback. Okay,
no one, no one has ever said that about him.
No one has ever said exactly. I think that I
can sing like Whitney Houston. Now if you hear me sing,
you're not gonna say the same thing. We can all
think very highly are of ourselves, but other people have
eyes and ears. That's all I'm saying. But I'm just

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all I'm saying to to that is I And you're
not wrong. You're not wrong at all. I I see
where you're at with this. But my point is the
pressure of that organization, which has whipped constantly with quarterbacks constantly,
to just roll this guy out when he was something
of a breath of fresh air and brought all these

(01:02:54):
good feelings and all. And I know Joe Joe Flagga,
but Joe Flaca was one hundred and seven years old.
We all kind of knew what that was gonna be
because you didn't have Deshaun Watson waiting in the wings.
I don't know, It's it's an interesting question. The press box,
Fox Sports nine eighty WNA.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Get on the press box called Marty now at nine
to three, seven by three, one six, one seven zero
the press box on Fox Sports nine eighty wnay, and.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Welcome back to the program with you here on this
Thursday or Thursday. I'm already four days ahead Monday afternoon.
My mind's my mind is just jello right now at
this point of the year, with everything rolling on like
it is. Welcome back to the program with you right
up until five o'clock this afternoon. In a couple of moments,
we'll check in with new Miami head football coach Chris

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Fogel kind enough to give us some time this afternoon.
His team one of three that elected to opt out
of the OHSA football playoffs this week, and we'll talk
to him about that decision and some other things as well.
To again World Series Game number three set for tonight
Dodgers and Yankees at Yankee Stadium in New York. There's
a Monday night game tonight in the NFL. It's the
Giants and the Pitsburgh Steelers in Pittsburgh. A right, let's
talk a little OHSA football right now and on the

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liveline with this right now. Kind enough to give us
some time this afternoon. Is the head football coach at
neew Miami High School. Chris Fogel joined us on the
line this afternoon. Chris, number one, I appreciate you willingness
to come on and talk about this your school one
of three that declined to participate in the OHSA playoffs.
You opted out of this number one. Let me get
your reasoning for what was your decision to do so?

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In your program's decision.

Speaker 5 (01:04:27):
Well, thanks for letting me come on to explain some things.
And it wasn't an easy decision, and I'm gonna let
you know that. I mean selfishly, I got the call,
and you know, we got to call. It was like, yeah,
let's go in. And then I had to sit back
kind of as a parent and as you know, more
asan a parent and a coach. Let's look back and go,

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am I really doing the best for our kids? After
the play our game on Friday, I was down to
about twenty one twenty two kids, of which fifteen or
sixteen would be just freshmen and sophomores there looking blow

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numbers obviously, And then you know, I had a starting
offensive lineman who offensive and defensive linement was went to
a concussion who had never played varsity before. Had a
possibility of my fullback was showing signs of concussion ish.
Then again, his replacements, uh defensively would have been probably

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a freshman or a software who hasn't played much, and
then offensively, I had the movie more wide receiver Rover
to play fullback. So a lot of it was safety
of my kids, to be honest, I mean when I
put my replacements in, I'm putting not only the replacements
that I'm putting in to be safe, but the kids
behind him that are depending on to make a block.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Coach, you said it wasn't an easy decision. What did
you talk to your team first or was it just
simply you know your call and your administration's call.

Speaker 5 (01:06:06):
Well, I I talked to my staff and then we
got to notice at five thirty Sunday evenings, which put
us behind the eight ball to begin with. You're going okay, Well,
you know, usually when you know you're preparing for a game,
you got you know who you're going up against. You
got Saturday at least, and Sunday you got two full days.

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That's Friday, the prep break down, the film making preparations
or game plans. So where you know we're looking at.
I get the fall call at five thirty. That's a
rough one. I've been up all night. And then uh
uh talking to my staff, they were like, I don't

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know if we can do this, but you know we
can try. You know, well, I'm after them to leave
their family on Sunday afternoon where they already plans. And
then I called a couple of my scene, your leaders,
and like, here's our opportunity. What do you guys think?
And you know, they were all like, yeah, let's go play,

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but do we really can it really happen? You know,
can it really happen? And to trying to be successful
and they were like, coach, you made that You're making
the right call. And all my players and my parents
have pretty much have to site have expressed the same

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opinion that we've made the right haul.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Chris fog on the line with us, the head football
coach at Knew Miami High School, his school one of
three that has decided to opt out of the playoffs.
They would have gone in as the sixteen seed and
had to play at the defending champion Mary and Local.
Aside from that, coach, you know what you would have
been walking into playing Mary and Local. Everyone's kind of
aware of that part of the equation right now. But
when you talked about your players and they understood it

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as well too, did that help you? How much did
that help you when your players. But yeah, coach, we
get where you're coming from with this.

Speaker 5 (01:08:03):
I mean, yeah, we know what we're walking into. I
used two years ago, I was the head coach at
twin By South and I took them to the playoffs
in twenty twenty one and we were the sixteen seed
and played against Mary Local. So I knew exactly what
we're walking into. But we had won our way into
the playoffs, and the kids were prepared, you know what

(01:08:27):
I mean. It's like they knew we're going in. They're excited,
they're ready to go. We got home on Friday night
and the kids are thinking, well, we're packing up and
we're done, you know, and then that's a big mental change,
a mental shift. And you know, I don't think maybe
playing maryon Local would have been a big issue. I

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think it was just the fact that going in to
play the game safely and being prepared, the preparations. Like
I said, we didn't get the call until by thirty
on Sunday afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
That being said, coach, you do is it fair to
say that this would not have been any I mean
Mary Local obviously that they're going to play on Friday
for recovery is gonna go ahead and step in and
fill that sixteen seed. But your team going to play
that game. Would that have I don't know if it's
fair to say would have helped Mary in Local at all?
But I mean, is that kind of part of the

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reasoning too in this you think that? I mean, obviously
it would have been a tough game. I mean, you
know what you were again, you said, you know what
you're walking into. But does it do I don't want
to say does it do a disservice at Automary and Local?

Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
You know, I.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
I see both sides.

Speaker 5 (01:09:41):
As a coach, you don't want to sit idle, right,
you don't like the players to sit idle for a week,
But sometimes you had those bumps and bruises that you
want them to get healthy and everything else, which is
good too, But it's a buzz all up there. I
mean absolutely, And then you know I'm marrying Local. I mean,
just yeah, it's it's tradition. It's generational generation after generation

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of winning, and that's the expectation up there. So would
it help them prepare? I can't tell you, you know,
if it would help them or not, but I know
they probably didn't want to say idole either.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
Exactly exactly. That's all being said coach. With the expansion
of sixteen teams per region, there are a lot of
people who have spoken out against that. They don't like
the expansion. They I think teams that don't deserve to
get in are getting into this. Let me just get
your thoughts when this was announced, the expansion a couple
of years ago, were you in favor of it.

Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
I'm absolutely in favor of it. Like I said, it
was three years ago. Now at twenty twenty one, I
guess it's almost four years ago now. But when I
took two Invice South who played the first playoff game
over there, they were just they had losing season, losing season,
but we went four and six, and you know, we

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won that last game. We were in the playoffs, and
that was the drive to win that last game. That
was the drive, you know, to be only the second
team in history of Twin By South to make the playoffs. Yeah,
you get to go play Marionocle. But it's a reward
for and it's a drive for the teams that may
be struggling maybe trying to build a successful program. And

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that's a little sparked, encourageing on the second half of
the season.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
Well, and coach, you know this as well too. Those
extra weeks of practices, extra days of practices, those are
invaluable going to the following season, aren't they?

Speaker 5 (01:11:37):
Oh? Absolutely? I mean the weeks that you get, like
every game it's just one extra time to more time,
more reps, more everything that you get to do with
the players, The more they get to gel with each other,
that have more they feel and you know, it's family
and and it's there's some valuable homans that they get
to play and they get to they get to say

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that we took our team to the playoffs regardless. I
mean it's yeah, it's a sixteen seed, but they still
earned their way in. They still got to go and
did what they did had to to get to get there.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
This is a program that you're with now at New
Miami where success I mean you've had success in recent
years back in twenty twenty Miami Valley Conference champions. You
won four of your first five games this season. From
a building standpoint, coach, where are you right now? Even
though you finished four and six and lost your last
five games this year? Was it a was it a
good year in that regard for you. It was a

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great year.

Speaker 5 (01:12:32):
I mean we went four out of four of our
first five. We were winning, had some unforeseen injuries, some
issues happened that you know, just kind of and we
got to the topper part of our season, but we
were on a zero and twenty six stretch. You know,
we've lost like twenty six games in a row. I

(01:12:54):
took over the season program last year and I had
nine teen kids for thirteen refreshments. Wow, so just winning,
you getting us four wins is awesome, and you know,
and then we're trying to you know, build for the future,
built for the future, and if you know, we didn't

(01:13:18):
quite get that laugh game, but you know, we'll keep
moving on to the next season.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Chris Fogl, the head football coach A Knew Miami remaining
moments with him. He's joining us here on the live
line today. His program one of the three that decided
to opt out of the playoffs this year, with a
chance to play at Mary and Local on Friday night. Coach,
when you talked about the injuries and developing the depth
that you need to be successful a Division seven program,

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I mean, we all know numbers are always an issue
in that regard. Were your numbers up this year? Was
it a better year for you in that regard overall?

Speaker 5 (01:13:50):
Oh? Absolutely. We went from nineteen players that I had
like thirty two players. Doesn't sound like a whole lot,
but that's a big number for us. And we were
actually able to play J four JB games this year,
which is invaluable experience for the young kids, and being
able to play with athletes their own age. You know,

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they didn't get thrown in on Friday night playing against
an eighteen year old when they're fourteen, which is totally
two different things. But our numbers are on the up,
and uh, I mean it's but when you are at
the seven program, like I said, I locked my quarterback
in the Week seven, but he wasn't just my quarterback.
He was also one of my defensive backs, by kicker

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and my punter. So when you lose that use a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
Exactly. So I mean you were hamstrong almost from the
get go, then I mean would lose its absolutely we'll coach. Yeah, Well,
I just wanted to say I appreciate you coming on
and giving us your side of the store, because I
think there's a perception out there sometimes when schools do this,

(01:14:59):
especi in this situation, I saw. Obviously, social media can
be assessed pool we both know that, but I think
at times there's the perception that, well, they just didn't
want to go play Mary and Local. I mean, and
I just get the indication of listening to you, coach,
and please correct me if I'm wrong on this, But
if you'd have had a healthy roster, if you'd have
had thirty to forty players, you'd have been on the
bus Friday night driving up to Mary Local to play

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the football game.

Speaker 5 (01:15:23):
Well, if I would have had a healthy, older roster,
I would have took twenty five kids up there. But
the twenty five kids I had were young. You know,
we're talking freshman sow course, and it would be rough
when they're only starting two seniors either to the ball
or two juniors on either side of the ball. So
you're talking fourteen year olds playing against seventeen and eighteen

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year old.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
So this that's a rough rough Go absolutely, absolutely, Chris.
I appreciate you coming on and giving us your side
of the story. It's refreshing to hear a coach who's
willing to do that because I know, again you've probably
and you've probably heard it too. People are probably saying that, yeah,
absolutely well, they just don't want to play maryan Local. Well,
as we found out, it couldn't be any further from
the truth. I appreciate you spending some time with us,

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Savage and continued success in building the program at New Miami.
Thanks for coming on today.

Speaker 5 (01:16:11):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
Thank you all right, take care. Chris Fogel, they head
football coach at New Miami, And I mean you heard
him say it. If we even have had thirty senior players,
we'd have been on the bus Friday, going up the
road and playing the football game. So it's not as
if he didn't want to go play. And I think
that's part of it. You have Sometimes it's easy to say,
as I said, just go ahead and go play the game.
It's better for your kids. You can't quit. It's not football. Well,

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but let's be serious here. As he said, you're taking
on a team that hasn't lost a football game in
what three years? Four years? That at the same time,
they're loaded at every single position, and you have to
wonder too. I'm sure Tim, Tim Goodwin and Mary Local.
I mean they're going to play Friday. That's the they're

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not it's not a buye. They're going to play. They're
gonna play forty conam They've already won their league opponents,
but they are gonna they are going to play them.
But what would that have given Mary and Local to
go out there and play a team which has sixteen
kids that are are sophomores in freshmen and sophomores. What
do you gain from that? Nothing?

Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
It's I mean, it's just dangerous itous it is.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
Then you're gonna go to a running clock and you'll
probably go to that anyway on front.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
And it's demoralizing to that today. Absolutely no reason.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
Absolutely, And again I know you can debate the sixteen
team expansion until you're blue in the face. As I said,
that's not going anywhere. That's what that's where we're headed.
It's just these situations are ones where I credit coaches
for taking the best interest of their players and their
program in account. Like he like he said he got

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the call five thirty yesterday after they'd already played their
final games. They weren't even thinking about this. The kids
had coaches and play to go do other things, so
on and so forth. Their minds weren't even on trying
to get ready to play another football game. And that's
a hard thing to do. Four point thirty four at
the time in the press box Fox Sports nine eighty
w ol.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
Name get on the press box called Marty now at
nine to three, seven by three, one, six, one seven
zero the press box on Fox Sports nine eighty won.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
Eighty and Mack with you're here on this Monday afternoon
in the press box Fox Sports nine eighty wne all right.
Yesterday Bengals lost to the Eagles thirty seven seventeen, while
the Browns were winners over the Baltimore Ravens twenty nine
to twenty four. After the Bengals game yesterday, head coach
Zach Taylor sat down and tried to explain the things

(01:18:56):
that he did to the Bengals yesterday play calling wise,
and none of them really made any sense other than
the continual We're gonna be better, don't worry everthing's gonna
be fine, Like come on, dude, step up, step up,
tell us what tell us he I will give him credit,
though he did take responsibility for it. He did say
it's all on me, and I said, as I said,

(01:19:16):
I'll give him credit for that, but still it's just
it's just a hard thing to fa them just really
is to to listen to that. And uh, that's that's
kind of where we're at.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
Sometimes you do have to step back, like you were saying,
you know, to give up play calling in order to
move forward. And right now this team is kind of
in a rut. And I think that their you know,
first couple game woes that have been consistent are starting

(01:19:49):
to carry carry into later into the season because whatever
is the issue, and it's been multiple things, yes, but
there is some sort of for times is not a coincidence,
that's that's a system. So whatever it is that is
making those first two games not feel that important to
the Bengals, it's it's starting to drag into the season

(01:20:13):
and so something does have to change. And if that
means Zach Taylor gives up play calling, maybe that's what
it means. If I mean, is it time to get
a new voice leading the defense. I'm not and I'm
not saying that people need to get fired necessarily. I'm
just saying something has to change, but the defense has
been a.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Weak point. Yeah, I think Kelly, you can look at
Lou Ana Roumo sometimes on the sidelines and see in
his face he knows mm hmm. He just doesn't have
the I mean, as much as Trey Hendrickson is one
of the best pass rushers in the NFL, it sure
seemed like he was a healthy scratch yesterday. He didn't

(01:20:55):
do anything. Yeah, he had maybe his worst game of
the season, going up against a back up at left
tackle who schooled him day long. And again that that's
just you can't have that. If there was ever a
day needed for Trey Hendrickson to dominate on the offensive
or to dominate on the defensive line, it was yesterday.
He had to be the Trey Hendrickson we saw in

(01:21:16):
the prior seven games of the season and just wasn't.
And that's that's the big part of the little to
And again I think a lot of it too. Lue
Rumo knows that there are guys that he has playing
right now that he probably wouldn't be playing. Let's see,
absolutely possibly has had to. Yeah, so that's kind of
that's kind of what they're stuck with. I do want
to go back to Chris Fogel, the new Miami head coach,

(01:21:38):
of visiting with us and as I said, I I
appreciate him having the willingness to come on. And I'm
not saying the others I reached out to did didn't
want to do it, and they may have been busy.
I just didn't hear back from him, but he almost
He got back to me almost right away when I
when I sent out the emails day, he responded almost immediately.
And there are are a couple of ways of looking

(01:21:58):
at this. And as he said, he's heard from the
other side of this, those that say, oh, absolute, you
should just go play the game. You're letting your players down.
It's football. How can you not go play? Well, you
have to be a little more concerned about your program
and your players and the future that you're trying and

(01:22:19):
the culture that you're trying to establish instead of just
putting nineteen kids on a bus and going up and
playing this team. Now, the fact that the playoffs are
at sixteen teams per region, does it play a role
into this. Well, it probably does, because if this were
an eighteen bracket, this wouldn't even be a question.

Speaker 4 (01:22:39):
Yeah, they're not even asked.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
Be a question. Now, I'm gonna have a chance tomorrow
to spend some time with Doug Ute, the executive director
of the OHSAA, and they try and bring you some
of that conversation tomorrow in the program. That will be
one of the questions I will ask him. We will
talk about this. It's not the first time it's happened,
and it won't be the last time it happens when
you start looking at these playoffs and the way that

(01:23:02):
this works right now. But in the overall, as Doug
Ute has said, he said it to me, he said
it to other people over the years once this expansion
was announced, that it's about the kids. It doesn't matter
how I feel, or how you feel, or how whatever's

(01:23:23):
handle on social media feels, that's not what this It's
about how the kids. And you heard coach Fogel even
say he went to the seniors that he has and
someone said, let's go play, Coach. I mean, they were
ready to go, let's go play. But then after it
was kind of laid out for them about what do
we do here, then the reality kind of sets in

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that first on fuff, let's go get them, Let's then well,
hang on a second here, let's let me think about this.
But as Coach Fogel said, as well too, his program.
It made a nice little turn. He said they were old.
What do he say, oh, in twenty three something like that.
I mean, I was looking back at some of their
at some of their recent one loss records. It's been

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a struggle there. I mean, nobody's hiding from that. They
had a couple of back to back oh and ten's,
and that was on the heels of a perfect season
in the COVID year. And they've been to the playoffs before.
They win a number of Miami Valley Conference championships. So
it's not as if that program hasn't tasted success. They
have so, but again, when you're you got to think

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long term. You've got to think again the future of
your program. And as I thought his last comment about
I think it was his last or one of his
last comments about if I would have had thirty older players,
then we would then we would be loading up and
going to practice and going up the road on Friday
night and playing the game. But to go up there

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with nineteen mostly freshmen and sophomores, when you're trying to
build a program, if you go up there and get
dismantled seventy five to nothing, what are those fourteen to
fifteen sophomore, freshman and sophomore one think about coming back
next year. We're not doing that again. Yeah, I'm not

(01:25:09):
playing in those kind of games anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:25:13):
Yeah, it's it's demoralizing to the whole entire team for
no reason.

Speaker 3 (01:25:16):
Well, yeah, exactly. So it's it's a hard call.

Speaker 5 (01:25:22):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
And I'm sure the other coaches involved had had similar
discussions with their programs and with their players. I don't
think there's any question about that that they all kind
of went what's best for us? And and and again too,
as I said, I what did what does that do
for Marion Local? How does that help them? And in

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playing this team now playing fort Recovery again now now
Fort Recovery, I mean they rolled Fort Recovery in the
regular season. I think it was sixty two to nothing.
They beat Fort Recovery. But that's that. I'm for Recovery.
One of the Midwest of Eltic Conference schools they have.
I'm sure they've got bodies to come in there. And

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they were two and eight this year. Looking at their
record right now, they got mostly hammered in just about
every game they played. They beat New Bremen or New
Bremen beat them fourteen to twelve. They did knock off
Parkway thirty six twenty four. They beat Wayne Trace in
their opener twenty to six. They played some very good teams.
They played seven and three Year Banned, they played nine

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and one Cold Water, they played six and four Saint Henry,
they played Tenant o' marion Local, they played seven and three,
and they played eight and two Minster. So Britt de
Camp's a very good football coach, so I mean, he
knows it's it's his kids get another chance, no chance
to play, and they probably have the bodies to do it.

(01:26:51):
So that's part of it as well too. I guess
it's I think sometimes we're just so quick to automatically
assume these days that well, they just don't want to play.
I mean, you go back to the the COVID year
with Michigan, they're likely not to play Ohio State. It
is kind of the same thing when you think about it.
They just they didn't have enough, they didn't have enough

(01:27:12):
quality bodies to go play that game. Feel like Jim
Harbart didn't want to play Ohio State. Oh I don't
know that he didn't want to play Ohio State, but
it's you have to look at a larger picture and
just be more I guess in depth, and you're thinking
about things like this, which it's too easy not to

(01:27:33):
do that these days because most people have the attention
span of a gnat four forty seven the press box,
Fox Sports nine eighty w O name get on the

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press box called Marty now at nine to three seven,
buy three, one six, one seven zero the press box
on Fox Sports nine eighty WNA. Hey, We'm back with
you here on this Monday the press box, Fox Sports
nine eighty WOE. As mentioned, the OHSA football playoffs start
on Friday night, and we have a number of our

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area teams that are headed to the postseason. In Division one,
Region two, Beaver Creek will play at the number two
seed Centreville, Centerville and Fairmont sharing the GWC Championship. Fairmont
will host Grove City Central Crossing on Friday night, the
sixteen seed Central Crossing with the mark of one to
nine Fairmont eight and two on the season. Other area schools,

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Springfield will be home on Friday night. They'll take on
the thirteen seed Hillary Bradley between two and eight. This season,
north Mont will be at the number six seed Lebanon.
Lebanon went six and four this year. North Mont the
eleventh seed at two and eight. The seventh seed a Springboro.
They play host to let's see the tenn seed Dublin
Jerome from the Columbus area, and that one will be

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also on Friday night. Dublin Jerome the ten seed. Middletown
will play at Wayne, a couple of five and five
teams squaring off in the eight versus nine seed game
eight Hubert Heights Wayne Wayne. Of course, in nine Middletown
Region number four, let's see Hamilton will be home. They
have they are the number five seed. They'll have the
twelfth seed Cincinnati Oak Hills, La. Cody East is the

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eight seed at seven and three. They have West Claremont
the number nine seed. Also at seven and three. Lakota
West is nine and one to the number two seed.
They take on Walnut Hills at one and nine. Well,
Xenia will be home on Friday night. In Region eight,
they play host to Sydney five and five Xenia nine
and one, Tip one. That battle was unbeaten last Friday night. Oh,

(01:29:43):
by the way, tip we'll get to them in a moment.
Xenia will host Sydney Trolwood Madison will be at the
number four seed. Hamilton Baden Troy at six and four
goes to Harrison at mark of eight and two to
Alima Senior, which went nine and one this year, be
at the number eight seed. Vandalia Butler the twelfth seed.
Oxford tata Wanda will play at unbeaten Tip. They are

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ten and zero on the season. Meadowdale will be at Bellbrook.
Meadowdale at seven and three, Bellbrook at nine to one.
Let's see Hamilton roscoes to the number four seed undefeated
London at ten. That's a pretty good London team. A
lot of people think that's a club that can make
a deep run in in Division three. Tavian Saint Clair
and his Bell Fountain chieftains the five star Ohio State
recruit Tavyan Saint Clair quarterback. They'll play host of Shamanad Julienne.

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That should be a very good football game. I think
on Friday night, that one should be a lot of
fun to watch. Let's see what else. Moving down to
Region sixteen, Let's see who from the area of Valley
View will have New Richmond Valley Views the three seed
against the fourteenth seed New Richmond. Kent Ridge out of
the Springfield area will be at the number five seat
Cincinnati Tap. That game, oh, by the way, has a

(01:30:48):
six o'clock kick on Friday evening. Most games will kick
at seven. That one will kick at six. Urbanna will
be at Cleves Taylor on Friday. Alter goes to the
seventh seed. Eaton Indian Hill will be at Northridge Indian
Hill seven and three at seven and three north Ridge.
Region twenty let's see from the area. Let's look down
that real fast here to see Miami East will host

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Milton Union seven and three Miami East six and four,
Milton Union Carlilet five and five has five and five
line of bath. Region twenty four Coldwater hosts the sixteen
seed Covington. Moving down a little further, let's see who
else is involved here. Let's move down to Region twenty eight.
We've talked a lot about that already. That involves that's

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Marion's Maria Stein Marion Local against the sixteenth seed, which
will now be Fort Recovery after Cedarville and New Miami
opted out. The fifteenth seed Manchester will be at number
two Minster. Let's see and Sonia which won the Western
Ohio Conference at nine and one. They'll play host to
Twin Valley South at five and five. So those are
your area matchups for Friday night. So again, all games

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are on Friday night in the OHSA Playoffs until you
get to the state championships in Canton, and those games
will all be Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. Of course, this
program will eminate from Tom Bettson Hall of Fame Stadium
in Canton, as we have done in the past, and
we will do that again this.

Speaker 5 (01:32:11):
Year for you.

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
Updating on some of the other stories of the day.
Penn State starting quarterback Drew Aller could be a game
time decision on Saturday when the Nitney Lions play host
to Ohio State. Head coach James Franklin said today that Aller,
who tweaked his knee Saturday night in the first half
of the game at Wisconsin, is a game time call.
But I would have to think he'll be good to
go on Saturday for the Buckeyes. I'd be stunned if

(01:32:35):
he's not ready to go. Looked wasn't walking one hundred
percent when he went off the field, but it didn't
look like it was anything of any overall serious nature.
Brown's linebacker Jeremiah Olusu Karamoa, released from the hospital today,
had to be cart off the field yesterday immobilized after
suffering a neck injury in the third quarter of the
eventual twenty nine to twenty four win over the Ravens.

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The Kansas City Chiefs have acquired pass rusher Joshua Ucha
in a trade with the New England Patriot. It's they just, well,
we got a pop, let's go out and get somebody
very good. And that's what they did. They got from
the New England Patriots for a what was the draft pick?
A six round pick?

Speaker 5 (01:33:11):
Is that what it was?

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
Yes, a sixth round pick, a sixth round pick, and
that's what they get what they have to give to
get this guy. Two sacks and six games this year,
twenty and a half sacks in his career. If you're
if you're sitting in your home, you didn't play yesterday,
and you get a you get a call or a
text message, Hey, call the front office immediately, please that
we have some news for you. Congratulations. Well they probably

(01:33:37):
don't say congratulations. They probably say we've made a deal,
You've been traded. You hold your breath right away because
you hope it's not Carolina where you're going. And then
and then to find out you're going to Kansas City,
you probably can't get out of your house or out
of your recliner fast enough to get to the airport,

(01:33:58):
to get your stuff packed, to get out the door.
It's just remarkable what they do and how they do it.
They see a weakness, unlike other teams that I know
of that I follow very fervently, that have a weakness
and don't address it, and this team addresses it. They
simply go out and do it. They don't hesitate, they
go do it. They set him out here, seated the

(01:34:20):
Patriots because they were in the they were ready to
trade him anyway, which that led to a lot of
the speculation about t Higgins not playing yesterday. There was
some thought that on Friday his agent went, hey, you
know what, maybe you shouldn't play. See what happens on Sunday.
If they win, then okay, come on back and be
healthy and then be ready to go. But if they lose,

(01:34:42):
well then you didn't do anything to damage yourself. I
don't say truth to that, but that was another social
media chatter yesterday I certainly hope that's not the case,
but again these days, you never can't tell. Cold Head
coach Saint Stikeen told reporters today that Anthony Richardson, the
Colts quarterback who decided to take himself out of the

(01:35:02):
game on Sunday against the Texans because he was quote tired,
they will ask if he was going to be the
starter today. Steiken says, we're evaluating everything right now, so
there we go. Well we yep, yep, which is other words,
it could be updating our fan polls today. And thank
you for all the reaction. We asked you today. Ohio
State survived against heavy underdog Nebraska Saturday. What was your reaction?

(01:35:25):
Thirty five percent of you go with it's a win,
just move on, don't worry about it, all right. And
we also asked you today with the OHSA football playoff
field announced, three schools opted out of being the number
sixteen seed and having to play the number one seed.
Maryon Local, do you agree with each school's decision? Thirty
six percent of you went with the problem in this
is that there are sixteen team regions, so appreciate all

(01:35:47):
of your participation and your insight into that. As well too,
had some great comments on that. Oh. By the way,
I do have to give shout out to the Nuge.
We did our magnificent sevens last week. He tossed us
his and uh, well, I kind of laughed at Philadelphia,
But you're right. I gotta give you that one. You
hit it as painful as it is. I don't know.

(01:36:10):
We'll see. We're pretty good yesterday. Again they weren't exactly
playing the Kansas City Chiefs. But sure, we'll see. We'll see.
Still gonna Oh no, not now, because the commanders are
what the commanders are now. So we're getting a little
we're feeling now, we're walking a little taller, feel a
little got a little bit of a strut and our stuff.
Now we're winning games on the last second. Now, how

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that happens. Well, enjoy it because it's a fun ride.

Speaker 4 (01:36:39):
It is it is.

Speaker 3 (01:36:39):
Thank you, Thank you all right, that'll over today's edition.
In the program, thank you so much for being with us.
Thanks to new Miami hip football coach Chris Bogal for
giving us some time this afternoon. Kelly be always a
great job, and thanks to you for being with us today.
As Walkey, we're back. We need tomorrow. From three to five,
it's the press box. It's Fox Sports nine to eighty.

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