October 29, 2024: Doug Ute

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
No matter what time the game is, we need we
need a great environment and we need everybody in the
stadium early. We need to place rocking. That is Penn
State head coach James Franklin pleading for crowd support Saturday
when his Nitny Lyons gets set to face Ohio State.
Welcome to the press box, Fox Sports nine eighty w

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O and eight with you on this Tuesday, so glad
to be with you. Almost feels like a mid September day.
Temperature near eighty, very breezy outside and just not a
bad day. And we're glad you're with us here this
safur You know, Kelly B's alongside producing the program, and
we're with you right until five o'clock today. Coming up
on the program today we will hear from the executive
director of the Ohio High School Athletic Association, Doug Ute.

(01:07):
We'll get his thoughts on the upcoming high school football playoffs,
and it's a conversation I had with Doug a little
bit earlier today, and the first topic we got into
centered on the schools that opted out of the postseason.
We did a lot on that yesterday, and Doug's gonna
have some interesting comments on that. So we will hear
from Doug Yute coming up a little bit later on
this hour. Also, we'll let you hear Jamis Winston his

(01:29):
thoughts after a Sunday's win by the Browns, where he
says he is, if given the chance, he's a great
NFL quarterback. So I'm sure, well, sure he does, Sure
he does, and why wouldn't you after that performance on Sunday,
I guess. So we have all that to get into today.
The World Series can come to an end tonight. Not
so that anyone has noticed Dodgers and Yankees. I haven't

(01:51):
seen the TV ratings, but I just get the impression
that I just don't know how many are watching, quite frankly,
which is a shame, because it's Baseball's two best teams.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
It is Baseball's two best teams. I am surprised. I
think there that I thought there'd be a little bit
more rigamaro. But I think because the Yankees have really
laid an egg here, a lot of the storylines, a
lot of the drama isn't necessarily there.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
There's no one unhappier than Fox that this is only
going to go maybe four games.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
I mean the obviously, Yeah, and I think everyone thought
we were gonna get seven shops at least six.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, I thought something.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
I need the Yankees to come up for air, breathe,
what is going on?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
It's gonna happen. I saw stat today Aaron Judge is
six for forty three in the season.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Insane.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Actually, yeah, those will no doubt be some numbers that
will get a lot of play in the Big Apple
if they get swept out tonight. And he could the
struggle at the plate. So, but I.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Was in a bar last night and there was a
good amount of people watching the game.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Well was it the only choice on the screen?

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (03:07):
No, there they also had the Giant Steelers game. Well, yeah,
but it was people were wearing jerseys. There were a
lot of Dodgers fans there. I was surprised, actually, but
I mean I also heard some choice words about the Yankees.
So of course I love that, but I was I
thought way more people would be there watching.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Well, one of the things I kind of based that
on was last night as well too. I went and
saw the Blue Jackets play last night, and we were
in the arena district afterwards, and I got to know
what's hockey and that's the focus of the attention. But
by the way, the Blue Jackets won six to one,
like very impressive last night. I beat the Edmonton Oilers
last night at Nationwide Arena, and I think because we

(03:49):
went to my son and I hit a couple of
establishments after the game, and the big screens in both.
One was the Monday night game the Steelers and the Giants,
and the other was the Cavaliers game with the Knicks,
and I thought, isn't there a World Series game tonight?

Speaker 3 (04:11):
But but whatever, shout out to the Cavs, though.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, well, we're gonna get to them in a moment
and talk about that. They're off to a great start.
And what a bad night it was for New York.
The Knicks lose, the Yankee Giants lose, the Yankees lose.
If the Mets were playing, they probably would have lost.
If the Jets were playing they probably would have lost. Yeah, yeah,
just a bad night. I'm I'm sure that upsets a
lot of people. It was a bad night for New

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York City. I'm sure that crushes a lot of folks.
So but yeah, that was That was last night as
far as I can start speaking of Monday night. The
Steelers just do what the Steelers do. Game was somewhat closed,
but then they just pulled away and Russell Wilson had
another pretty good night at quarterback. Says he wants to
play till he's forty.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
He could do it, that's the thing. Now, I mean careful, I.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Don't again, I'm still out. It's still a one hundred
percent sold.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
But it can happen. I'm not saying I don't know
if he's if he's saying he wants to play at
the level he's playing at or the level he's played
at before. But I mean, how old is Joe Flacco,
like seventy seven or something.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Well, and he's going to be the starting quarterback for
the Indianapolis Colts because they've bet they've benched Anthony Richardson. Yeah,
and so it's doable. I think I think what this
is more than anything, this is an NFL life lesson
for Anthony Richards. He's learning the hard way how you
handle things like that. And whether or not he did

(05:34):
it on purpose, I mean opting out because he said
he was tired. He will learn that if he ever
does that again, to simply not say it. Just don't
just don't admit it. One, just don't admit it.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
I think he's also lucky that it's happening in twenty
twenties football era, because in the nineties, I think he's
just automatically cut. I think that I think that teams,
the rest of the team would not accept him as
their leader at that point.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
I don't know that he gets automatically cut, but I
think you're right about his the leadership in the room. Certainly,
it's hard to turn to him and go, really, you're
serious about wanting us to play hard? Yeah, exactly, if
you're taking a snap off because you are tired, you're
twenty two years old, How does.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
That happen and you were just ran twenty yards? What
are you talking about? Your tired? It's not like he
busted down the field for a ninety nine yard game.
It was twenty yards and yeah, you zigzag, so I'll
give you thirty five, but I expect that out of
a professional quarterback.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
All I know is I got tired thinking about running
twenty two yards.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah. Well, if they that, though, I think that you'd
figure out thirty five yards with that paycheck.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Oh yeah, that's probably with.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
That paycheck, you'd figure out thirty five yards. I promise
he will. Yeah, probably, I know that you would. I
believe in you, bro, I believe in you.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Don't believe too much, don't believe everything you hear. There
are three college football games on tap for tonight in
New Mexico, State's at FIU, Florida International at pitt Bull Stadium. Tonight,
Louisiana plays at Texas State. Louisiana Tech plays at SAM Houston.
Those are your three college football games tonight. Again in

(07:24):
Game four of the World Series, tonight, the Dodgers can
close out the Yankees. The Reds have put Christian in
Canarci on strand and Matt McClain back on the active
roster so they can start rehabbing in Florida or in
Arizona rather in the Fall League, which that's good news.
I think. I think losing Matt McLain this year was

(07:45):
just a huge, huge loss for Cincinnati. I just and
not that all the other things that happened with the team,
but I thought he was such a solid piece of
that lineup. You could put him just about anywhere you
wanted to, and you got contributions out of him. And
I just like that guy. He's one of my favorite
players up and coming players for the Reds. So hopefully

(08:07):
he can get back and get one healthy. And I
think a lot of guys are probably excited to have
a chance to play for Terry Francona. Now. I think
this is going to really change a lot of attitude
in that dugout, so it should be interesting. So but
he'll be back, hopefully be back healthy next year, as
will ces Christian and Canarcio and Strand for the Reds.

(08:30):
As you heard at the top, well again, everybody else
who knows that they have issues at certain positions on
their roster going out and making trades. The Baltimore Ravens
have done that as well too, acquiring Deontay Johnson from
the Carolina Panthers. Hello, Cincinnati, come on.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
I mean, honestly, though, we're seeing the best teams be
the ones to make moves and if that doesn't show
the other teams, who are certainly not among the best teams,
that you should be making moves even if you're winning.
If after you've got the Chiefs just pick someone up
they're undefeated, you would think they think we're good where

(09:12):
we're at, and they said, nope, we can get better.
Every team needs to be making moves constantly to your
getting better.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
If you're serious about winning, if you have to do that,
if you're serious about winning, or if you're in a
position where you've decided that, well, we're thinking of next year.
And that leads us to one of our two pole
questions today. We're asking you today which of the two
teams should be active at the NFL trade deadline prior
to next Tuesday. Should it be the Bengals, Should it

(09:41):
be the Browns, Should it be both? Or it depends
on what happens in their games on Sunday. Now I
put that in there just as a just as a
way of kind of throwing out another talking point here,
because if Cincinnati wins, then they go with the four
and five and there will be that no doubt. See

(10:03):
told you we're coming back. We got a chance here.
But again you will have beaten a team with the
losing record. They haven't beat a team of the winning
record yet this year, and the Raiders are bad two
and six, and I don't know how much stock I
would put in Gardner Minshew coming in and beating you.
But at the same time, when you haven't won a

(10:23):
home game and you have suddenly an immense inability to
get any pressure on a quarterback, that's a frightening aspect
of this as well too so and then next Thursday
you have to go to Baltimore, so there's not a
lot of time, and with T Higgins being probably your
most marketable player. Now as far as a trade is concerned,

(10:46):
it's been rumored about that that I think if I'm Cincinnati,
especially if I lose on Sunday, I really have to
consider making a move. Cleveland, I think is kind of
in the similar boat. But what do you do. I mean,
they have a number of guys on one year contracts.

(11:07):
If they lose to the Chargers on Sunday, that's two
and seven, And I mean, let's face it, but neither
one of these teams are making the playoffs. Neither one
or neither one making the playoffs. It's just how much
you want to fool yourself into believing that you are
going to make it. And I think both certainly both
fan bases have a section of people who do that. Now.
It's funny because this time last week, just about every

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Browns fan I knew said, this team's awful. It's done.
Let's start thinking draft picks. Well, they bounce back and
win on Sunday and now, and now they're all going
through playoffs scenarios. You're not going to the playoffs. That
that's not happening, So you have to start thinking ahead now.
But if you win on Sunday, does that keep this

(11:51):
false hope alive? And I think both franchises will probably
fall fall fall prey to that and think, well, we
mamight just keep this group together a little bit longer.
But if I'm Cincinnati, I have to think seriously about
T Higgins. I mean, I hate to say that, but.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
If you're not going to pay him, you need to
get something for him.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
And with everybody else your main competitor. Two teams you
probably should have beaten this year, Baltimore and Kansas City
are going out and strengthening themselves at areas where they
needed help and you're sitting there doing absolutely nothing, Then
why are we doing this? Yeah? So, but that's one
of our polls. The other fan poll today deals with

(12:35):
Ohio State Buckeyes go to Penn State on Saturday. No change,
by the way in the status of Drew Aller. Penn
State will be back on the practice field today. He
is listed right now as game time as far as
whether or he will be able to play on Saturday.
When the buck Eyees hosted the Nidney Lions. We were
asking you today what happens to Ohio State's college football
playoff chances if they lose at Penn State Saturday. Do

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they have to win out and they will get in?
They will need to get help to get in or
it eliminates them. And I'm surprised at the results right
now quite frankly, it's a dead heat all three all
three categories are getting thirty three percent of the vote.
I figure there's no way Ohio State fans say it
eliminates them, But there are people saying maybe they're not
Ohio State fans, but it says that it will eliminate

(13:20):
them when out and they get in. I think it's
probably they will need they will need some help. I
think more than anything, some other things will have to
happen because you have teams leap frog ahead of you.
For example, even if they will say to beat Indiana
and Indiana then doesn't lose again Indiana's eleven and one
Ohio State's ten and two, Indiana could possibly go to

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the Big Ten championship game even losing to Ohio State
because of the goofiness of going away from divisions in
the Big Ten. So that's what you're dealing with there.
So there are way too many scenarios. But that's one
of our questions today. And again it's a split right
down the middle thirty three per all three categories. So oh,

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there we have that. Kelly touched on the Calves a
moment ago, winning last night in New York by the
final one ten to one oh four. Darius Garland thirty
four points fifteen in the fourth quarter, Donald Mitchell ads
twenty five, Evan Mobley had seventeen, Jared Allen had fifteen
points fifteen rebounds. Calves are off to their best start
since beginning their defense of their twenty sixteen NBA title,

(14:23):
when they started six and zero. So congratulations of the
Calves and Kenny Atkinson, first year head coach of the Calves,
having a fantastic start. So congratulations to the Calves on that.
And they have the Lakers coming in tomorrow night. Who
plays for the Lakers?

Speaker 3 (14:39):
I think, who's that guy? They're both undefeated though, are.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
The Lakers run beaten to?

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Oh wow?

Speaker 3 (14:49):
That yeah it is. It's still look two years ago,
the Wizards started the season ten and one. I mean,
I bought it, Jersey, I'm running around. We proceeded to
lose the next sixty games of the last like seventy

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one or something.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
So it was.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
It's early in the NBA season. We don't know what
could happen, right.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
I want to mention one notable bit of news from
a little bit earlier, within the last hour, so the
passing of actress Terry Garr who was seventy nine. She
was battling multiple sclerosis. And if you're a fan of
mel Brooks movies, I mean her role in Young Frankenstein
is one of the most hilarious roles that I mean,

(15:42):
She's just was just so good and just about everything
she was in. Of course, mister Mom. She was Michael
Keaton's wife in that she got nominated for an oscar
in Tutsie for her role. A lot of people don't
remember though she got her start. I think she was
eighteen or nineteen and she appeared in an episode of

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the original Star Trek in like nineteen sixty seven. I
think it was sixty seven or sixty eight. I'm a Treky,
I'm a Trecky, so I know those things.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, that's that's a deep cut.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
And it was. It was well the show she was in,
the episode she was in was to be a spin
off to another series. It was with this It was
this character name of Gary Seven who who bounced back
through time going and solving scientific science fiction things, stopping

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things from happening. Well, she played a affable secretary in
that episode. And well, anyway, long story short, Terry Garr
passing away at the age of seventy nine, and she
was Later in her career, she was famous for her
appearances on the David Letterman Show Late Night with David Letterman,

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and the banter back and forth between the two was
just hilarious, hilarious. But her role Young Frankenstein is the
one I think a lot of people remember. Oh yeah,
I forgot. She was in Close Encounters of the third kind.
She was in Oh God, yeah, so many good performances.
But does she passed away? To day is seventy nine
Terry Garb. So I'm going to make sure we mentioned

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that as well too. So all right, okay, three seventeen
is the time when we come back after our first
time out, our first break into proceedings, because we're tired.
We need to step aside for a moment. We're tired.
I'm gonna tap out here for a couple of minutes.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
That's what That's what you do.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
You're allowed to. Yeah, I guess it's okay to I
guess it's okay to do it now.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
I mean I think I get to start next.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, you get to start. Yeah, tomorrow you start? Okay,
you start tomorrow? Well wait, even know what it have
to be me because I'm way older. Have to be
me starting. It have to be me starting tomorrow. I
want to come back. We'll spend some time with the
executive director of the Ohio High School Electic Association, Doug Gute.
It's the press box, It's Tuesday. It's Fox Sports nine eight.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Wa get on the press box, called Marty Now at
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Speaker 2 (18:24):
World Series continues tonight. It's Game number four Dodgers Yankees,
although the first pitch just after eight o'clock, and if
the Dodgers win, that's it for the baseball season and
we look ahead to next year, which will be here
before we know it, because with baseball now stretching into
almost well, if the series were to go seven, it
would go into November and then the UH and then

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spring training starts in February, so you get December and
January and it's about it. Man, That's about it, right
back at it. Wow, it's almost like the Premier League
soccer season overseason in England. I think they take forty
five minutes off between seasons, so it seems I mean.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
That feels long, honestly, it's yeah, And they don't care if.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
It's raining snowing we're playing.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
They're getting out there. They're just like, oh, our socks
are a little thicker in the wintertime, but.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Just can't use our hands. Okay, let's let's move on now.
When to get started into that? Well, speaking of soccer,
the MLS playoffs got underway last night. FC Cincinnati won
last night to advance, and I think the it was interesting.
I mentioned we were at the Blue Jackets game last
night in Columbus to watch Columbus play Edmonton, and they

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had the mascot for the Columbus crew, something called Crew Cat.
I was guy dressed and there's somebody dressed in a cat.
I don't know how Crew. I don't know how Cat
and Columbus Crew are anything of any Again, I don't
pay much attention to the Columbus Crew. I just happened

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and I I I.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Don't know.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
I just haven't. I just haven't paid much atention to him.
I just I can't get worked up about it. I can't.
It just doesn't do much for me. Major league soccer now,
I was, like I said before, I'll watch the Premier League.
There's something about that that's just so to me. It
is so entertaining to watch.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
There are levels to this. I mean, the Premier League
looks like better soccer. I don't know what it is
good soccer, yeah, but I when I'm watching it. I
mean I I always get very excited about the World
Cup watching all these the best, the best of these
international teams and yeah, it doesn't about the MLS to me.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
There's something about national pride that's involved, certainly in the
World Cup. And I don't know what it is about.
I mean, I know my my father in law, who
lives in Lima, kind of got me turned onto it
when I first started seeing my my now wife, and
we would go up there and hang around on weekends.
And that's what he would be doing on Saturdays and Sundays.

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He's got the world, he's got, he's got the Premier
League one and he was it is a big Manchester
United is his side. Yeah, And so I started watching
it with him. I'm like, oh, this is pretty interesting.
And then you'd watch a Crew game. It'd be like
nine thousand people in the stands, oh okay, little different
as opposed to seventy five thousand screaming people. Who and

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the singing at Premier League games is unbelievable. There is
one side, I forget which one it is, but if
they're winning in the second half, they sing take me
Home Country Roads. Yeah, there's like seventy thousand people say
take me the John Denvers long, take me Home Country Roads.
What west Ham United or whoever? The heck it is.

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It's just remarking bunkers.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
You know how I got into soccer. My boss in
twenty sixteen was a big soccer guy, and when the
World Cup was going on, he was like, anybody that
wants to get off work orly and come watch the
World Cup can and I'll buy a picture and we'll
And I was like, oh, anything to get out of work.
And then I just ended up and I'm paying attention.

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I'm at the bar, I'm paying attention, and I was like, oh,
this is actually very exciting stuff. But yeah, for me,
it was just playing a little hooky at work.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
After that, Yeah, yeah, you're right. It was yeah, you
hey off and could drink some beer rush.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
For that.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
I'll watch it the Crew, by the way, the Columbus Crew.
They play the New York Red Bulls tonight in round
one of the Eastern Conference. And see that's the other
difference with MLS and the Premier League. In the Premier League,
there are no playoffs. No, yeah, you win the league,
you're the champ's MLS. I think they're what are like
thirty two teams or something like that, and they're broken
into just two conferences, but they have I think the

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top seven get in the playoffs, or the top eight
or something like that. But I know Columbus plays tonight
against the New Red Bulls and FC Cincinnati one last night.
The Crew game is at the Lower dot Comfield, which
is just down the street from Nationwide Arena, where the
Blue Jackets play in Columbus. Located right in between Nationwide
and Lower dot Com is the home of the Columbus

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Clippers Huntington Park, so it was a nice little stretch
right there. But at any rate, for some reason, the
Crew cat was there last night and they were having
their big brotherly Oh we will wish the Columbus Crew
all the best in the playoffs, which has to be
somewhat nauseating for the Columbus Blue Jackets to be wishing
another Columbus team best luck in the playoffs when the
Blue Jackets haven't been there no ever, and the Crew

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have won a couple I think it's the MLS Cup
that they have won a couple of times already. I
think they won it last year. I think they did
the Columbus Crew did so. At any rate, we were
kind of spinning spinning off the dial here all right.
Earlier today I had a chance to go over to
the OHSA offices and spend some time doing some interviews
for some shows we were doing, and I had a
chance to sit down and spend a few minutes with

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the executive director of the Ohio High School Eleedico Association.
We had we had a show yesterday where we talked
a lot about some of the teams that are opting
out of the playoffs because, well, for various and sundry reasons,
there's been some questions as to well, shouldn't these schools
be penalized, shouldn't they be fined or whatever. Well, when
I started a conversation, that was the first question we

(24:15):
talked about. When I spent some time earlier today with
the executive director of the Ohio High School Athletic Association.
I spent some time earlier today with Doug. You high
school fotball playoff time. Everybody's excited. You can feel it
in the air. The weather has even turned out nice
this week as we get ready to open up the playoffs.
But one interesting aspect of the playoffs, Doug, that start
this Friday night. You've had a couple of schools decide
not to play, and there are various reasons for that,

(24:37):
and it's in Division seven. Let me get your thoughts
on that right out of the shoot as we start
talking about the playoffs right now. It's up to the schools,
isn't it.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
Sure, it's one hundred percent to schools, not just in football,
in any sport we have. It's all voluntary membership and
our association it's voluntary participation in our tournaments. And so
it was a few schools in one division for various reasons.
And I don't judge because they do what's right for
their student athletes, and they're good coaches and good administrators

(25:05):
at that school that for one reason or another would decide, Hey,
it's not the best interest of our student athletes in
our school community.

Speaker 6 (25:12):
So you know, we're not going to play in the
tournament this year.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
I respect that, And that's what it comes down to
in the end. It's up to the schools. It's their call.
It's not in your realm of responsibility at all, is
it right? Not one bit?

Speaker 5 (25:23):
You know, we don't judge, as I said, and you
know we'll talk talk them through it. And I know
Bo Rugg does a really good job with.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
A communication piece of that, and so again, you know,
I've been.

Speaker 5 (25:34):
In their shoes as a school administrator, and you always
do what's in the best interest of your students, and
if they feel that that's it, then that's their right
to do that, and I support it.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Another year of the expanded playoffs sixteen teams per region.
Let's talk about the success part of this, and I
think it has been a success since you went to this.
Just talk to us about that and what it has meant,
and I guess fair to call it a success over
the time that's been implemented.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
Yeah, I think it is has been very successful because
what we hear from our member schools is they like
another week with their student athletes.

Speaker 6 (26:04):
It's good for their community to participate in that.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
And I've always said football is a only sport where
not everybody gets in, and I think you give kids
opportunity and watch out.

Speaker 6 (26:14):
And we've seen that. You know, we don't see it
every year. We saw sixteen b to one. Every year
we see a couple of fifteen's win and then.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
Just last year we had a twelve seat who wouldn't
have even been into tournament a few years ago, runner
up in Division One at Springfield, and I remember talking
to the folks at Springfield last year after a Week.

Speaker 6 (26:34):
One of the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
They were five and five, twelve seed getting in, and
I remember talking to them, said, you know they had
They said, we had a little bit of a rough year.
We picked up some steam and we're going to go
to Centerville this week, who they played week two, and
so we feel good about that. And it's a different
feel around here. And I think that's a poster child
for why we did this, as for the opportunity for

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kids to get to play in the playoffs. And you know, Marty,
you've covered high school sports a long time. You give
kids an opportunity to watch out and so that's the
neat thing for me to see.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
And it's funny because when something like that happens in football,
that's where you hear the well, they shouldn't have expanded.
But if a three and eighteen gets on the running
makes it to the state final in basketball, everybody says
it's a great story.

Speaker 7 (27:22):
Yeah, it's a great story. You got kids healthy late
in the year, you know those type of things. And yeah,
and you know, I don't look back at our decision
to do that one bit. It's been it's been a
big win for our member schools, and.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
You know, or if we could do everybody would get
in With that in mind, Dog, I think that's one
of the reasons why you decided back in the spring
to decide to expand the other divisions, baseball, basketball, going
to seven divisions. The success of football, how much did
that play into that.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
Played a lot because you know, when you're talking about basketball,
we had eight hundred boys basketball teams in state last year.
We had seven hundred and twenty football teams. So he
had seven divisions and football and four in basketball. And
you know when the guns sounded this fall at tournament
time here Marty, that we've seen already. I've gotten text

(28:10):
on Sundays from ads who say, you know, Western Brown's
a good example. Tim Cook shot me a text last
weekend and said, thanks for expanding. First time in fourteen
years that their soccer and volleyball at advanced to a
district terna. It's not about went in a state forum
that they have a chance to win. And I've seen
because I went through the soccer and volleyball you know,

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brackets beginning year, and I saw Marion Harding, who was
a sixth seed Marion Harding in the old formats, a
thirty and forty seed down there with little chance to even.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Win a game.

Speaker 6 (28:44):
And then Logan who advanced to the.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
District final regional volleyball first time in thirty years because
they've been a small school. And so I think when
you see those kinds of things, you know you did
the right thing because it's given kids an opportunity and
leveling that playing field out a little bit for.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
A lot of it. Actually, when you look at that,
you can go to Friday nights and see what the
success of the football playoffs has meant to communities, and
I think we're going to see that dovetail over to
some of these other divisions that have expanded as well too,
to the additional divisions for the championships. But football is
kind of unique in that respect. Football Friday nights are
football Friday nights. There's no better way to describe it,

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I don't think. And that means so much, especially when
you get in the playoffs and the schools Doug get
a chance to host a first or a second round game.
It means so much.

Speaker 6 (29:32):
Oh it sure does, you know, and you said it.
Football unites the community, not just the school culture. It's
the community culture. You get to see that when you
go around to different schools.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
I get an opportunity to see that going around, and
you know I've shared with you week ten. Last week,
I'm down at Cold Water watching a great football game,
but I'm there at five o'clock and I can see
the excitement in town and then the park across from
the football, the tailgates and little kids throwing the football
around or bumping a volleyball around at the tailgates, and

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you know, those kind of things, and that's culture and
good good schools. The community rallies around him, and Friday night,
that's the place to be.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
As we wrap up our conversation, we also now get
ready for another trip to Canton for the state championships
at the Tom BET's at the Hall of Fame Stadium.
You and I have talked about this a number of times,
but it's such a great relationship the OHSA has with
the Hall of Fame and with Canton. It's a it's
a win win for everybody involved, isn't.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
It absolutely is? You know, we're the state with the
Hall of Fame in it, and.

Speaker 5 (30:35):
Jim Porter and the folks up in Canton have really
made a commitment to get some Hall of famers back
to our events. Last year, Anthony Mugno spent a lot
of time up there, and and you know this probably
from your job. You get around Anthony and he's a
special person and you wouldn't even know he even has
a jacket or he just seems like the guy it

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works out. He lives down the street and works with
you locally at a place, and he's the most personable guy.

Speaker 6 (31:01):
And he spent so much time with kids and.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
Adults last year at the Hall of Fame, and and
so they're trying to bring that flavor.

Speaker 6 (31:11):
Back a little bit there to involve their Hall of
Famers with the kids, which I think is special.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
Uh you know, and uh again, we have a lot
we're fortunate in Ohio where you can go from Cincinnati
at the Tennis venue all the way up to Acrony
and baseball softball and over to Canton and then everything
in between where we host our events our kids. We know,
we're fortunate here in Ohio to have, you know, our
athletes playing in these type of big time venues because

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every state doesn't have that opportunity. And we think we
do it better than anybody in the country that way.
And part of that is the venues we're at and Marty,
we've talked about this before. It's not just a Hall
of Fame. It's Stark County. Uh and the folks in
Start County roll out that carpet and want our communities
there and it shows and we're fortunate.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
It's a fun time. You're always appreciate your time.

Speaker 6 (32:01):
Appreciate all you do.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Thanks Forty Doug you, executive director of the Ohio High
School of that association. And again we address it right
at the top his thoughts on teams opting out and
as he said, it's solely up to the schools. There's
nothing that we can do, and well, sure, and that's
the whole part of it. You have to understand what
each school is dealing with. And there were so many

(32:23):
people on social media saying things that the school should
be fine, ad to be this, aded to be that. Well,
that's that's just ridiculous because you can't do that. And
it's not only football. There are I mean, you can
pull out of a soccer tournament if you didn't think
you were. Yeah, so it's not I don't it is
it's anyway, I thought it was important to get at
least yet his thoughts on them. We had a coach
talk about it yesterday, and I think I thought it

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was interesting to get Doug's thoughts on him as well too.
Three thirty seven it's the press box, Fox Sports ninet
eighty w O. A name.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Get on the press box called Marty. Now at nine
to three seven by three, one six, one seven zero
the press box on Fox Sports nine eighty WN.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Eighty three forty. As we continue along here in the pressbox,
Fox Sports nine eighty WOE, I'm Marty Banister. Kelly be
producing the program. She's alongside with you right up until
five o'clock this afternoon. Let's dive into the Anthony Richardson
thing a little bit here. We didn't get a chance
to get much into it yesterday, and everybody's been kind
of poking fun and saying different things about and we
even did it as well too, about opting out, and

(33:39):
I was tired and needed a break. All those things
are athletes not as tough as they were in the past.
Is that a fair question to ask? And I bring
it up because you see things like this when when
this happens, or Lebron James does his flop, which he's

(34:04):
been no. I mean, he has almost has a patent
on that.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Everybody flops in the NBA, I know, but he gets.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
The most the most attention for it because he's Lebron James.
But there have been other situations where an athlete's toughness
has been questioned. I mean, you see injuries. Guy has
a has a, has a blister, a picture has a blister.
He can't he can't throw for whatever reason. And you

(34:35):
hear what back in the day, athletes didn't do that. Well,
you can't really say that. I just think, well, but
let me let me finish here. But but I think
back in the day when that happened, he just didn't
know about it because of there was no social media,

(34:55):
there was no constant coverage. There were things you just
didn't have the attention that's focused on every little decision
that's made. And I mean, I will say this, and
the reason I started thinking about this was last night.
I mentioned my son and I were at the Columbs
Bluejackets hockey game and we weren't too far from the
goal and we were watching Elvismre's Lichens the Blue Jackets

(35:19):
goaltender and my son. I both my son when he
played hockey, he was a goalie, and we had this
discussion back when he played, and we had it again
last night. We thought ourselves in hockey up until about nineteen,
I think it was like fifty five or fifty six
goalies didn't wear masks. You think about that, You go,

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what in the good gracious was going through everybody's minds.
Here's a guy in net trying to deflect eighty five
a ninety mile an hour shots and not wearing a mask.
Look at those old football helmets. They weren't helmets. They
were just like other strap on that you put over
top of your head. So I think if you're going

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to say that Anthony Richardson isn't tough, which I've heard,
I don't know that that's one.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Hundred fair I question is toughness.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
I think he just he made a mistake. I think, yeah, yeah,
he made a mistake. He should have he should have
handled that better, and he's going to learn from that.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
I think, though, the the change that you are referring
to is not just in sports, but there is way
more room for athletes in general to talk about themselves
in a way that we've never experienced before because we
have so much more minutia about their lives.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
And I think that.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Also, I mean, he's a I hate to bring generations
into this, but there is this idea from younger people
that we, the general public population, cares how they feel.
And I would say that most generations before that do
not believe that in general, especially I think about gen

(37:16):
X a lot. We don't even when we talk about
the generations, no one even brings up gen X. We
just for like boomers, millennials. There's a generation in between.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, there's probably some to that. And I think you've
started down a pretty good line with this because I
think as well too. I mean, I'll take my generation
right now, I mean my age, I mean my age
backer right now. I mean, I'll die on this hill
that the NBA back in the eighties and nineties, none
of the guys playing today would survive in that NBA

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because if you go back and look at it, every night,
it was just a basic fist fight every single night
you watch those Detroit Pistons teams play. I mean, could
you see Lebron James driving down the lane against Bill Lane?
Beer and and and Oakley and those guys that they
had on those Pistons teams, or I mean, go back

(38:12):
and look watch the old what is that out of
the thirty for thirty on ESPN the Best of Enemies
thing about the Lakers and the Celtics. I think it
was Game five or Game four of the NBA Finals
when the uh Kurt Rambus of the Lakers is going
in for an uncontested layup and Kevin McHale basically closedlined it.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Yeah it was close line.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
I mean I wouldn't know, but he closed lining. But
all that happened was is that they got up, there
was some pushing and shoving. Rambis went to the free
throw line, and the game went on. Yes, the game
went on. Now McHale would have been would have been
tossed out for weeks on end. That would have been
finds out the wazoo. I mean, it would just would
have been out of control. But see that's why I

(38:54):
think a lot of people in my age bracket who
now watch the NBA and see some of the things
that go on. Now, I don't think you guys are
come on, how can you not play eighty two games?
How can you not be out there each and every night.
I mean, how many Michael Jordan missed games when he
when he tore his ac or when he broke his
ankle was an ankle, when he break his ankle to

(39:15):
break the foot of bone on his food, Well, he
was one of the two. Those about the only times
he missed a game. Yeah, and then when he had
the baseball aportation for for a little while. But guys
playing Larry Bird, Larry Bird would have played. I mean
he heck in one game against the Pacers in the playoffs,
he fractured his jaw and he came back on and
to start the second half. Yes there, I think, yeah,

(39:37):
I can. I mean, I'll just wrap it up with
this and you can make your point. But I think
the perception of my age bracket is is that those
guys were so much tougher than these guys, so much tougher.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
I don't even I don't even disagree. I just think
it was it was what was the focus? Uh, Like
that like being super tough was part of being an
athlete and now you really just have to be super talented.
What defined you your toughness there? It was an expectation

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to playing the game, and that's why it was the focus.
Now and and now we players view longevity and being
able to make as much money from this skill as possible,
whereas back then it was like the money will come.
We're we're We're actually worried about more importantly beating these
other five gentlemen on this basketball court.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
The money was.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
People. I mean, obviously they played, they wanted the money,
but there was there was definitely an element beyond the
money that I think players today, because the money is
so big and life changing, it's harder for them to
focus on the actual game part. They really look at
this as a business first, whereas I think back in

(40:52):
the day it was a sport that became a business.
Now this is a business about money sport.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
The money is so astronomical now that I don't think
that's taken some of the toughness away.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
But the mind.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Is different, Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's a different approach than
it used to be. You were. There's a great book
out by Terry Pluto who writes for a Cleveland dot
com I think it is now. He did a I
think I mentioned it before. It's called Loose Balls, where
he talks about he writes a book about the history
of the Old ABA, and that thing was a fistfight

(41:27):
just about every night because those guys were playing for
their job.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Yeah, and that's another thing you could if you missed
the game back in the day, somebody came and took
your job, took your job. But if you had a
contract for one hundred and sixty five million, you can
sit as long.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
As you want, guaranteed contract watching that. I mean, you
can just just you're gonna collect the money whether you're
you're out on the field or not. I think that's
the change of But I don't I don't think it's
fair to say Anthony Richardson isn't tough just because he
he I think that's what. I think. He just made
a mistake. He just didn't realize the action and the

(42:01):
what was going to happen when he admitted that. I'm
sure he'll never do it again, and and it's ended
up costing him his starting job this weekend. So it's
the press box Fox Sports nine eighty WA.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Get on the press box called Marty now at nine
three seven by three one six, one seven zero The
press box on Fox Sports nine eighty WN.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Eighty three fifty two as well. Continue along here on
this Tuesday afternoon. It's the press box, Fox Sports nine
eighty wy Marty Bannerster. Kelly By's producing the program and
she's alongside for the ride. You have us right up
until five o'clock this afternoon. Well, let's contine a little
bit more into the topic we were on prior to
the break about this this toughness issue, and because I
mean I was thinking too, you go back to the

(43:04):
days of the NFL back in the seventies and the eighties,
and the toughness issue is one that I think if
you look back at the way the game was played
at that time, I mean, everything is done now in
the guise of player safety. Now, there are some things

(43:24):
that I think the NFL still does wrong with player safety,
like Thursday night games after a Sunday game. I just
I think that's ridiculous, and I'll stand on that. I
just do not agree with those at all. Never have
Never will you go out there and you bust your
rear in on a Sunday and then you get one
day to turn around and get ready to play another

(43:46):
game on Thursday. I've referenced this before too. I've been
on the sidelines at both college and NFL games, and
the hitting is just phenomenal. I mean, I vicious and
get these guys, the vast majority of them pop it
right back up and go right back to the huddle.
But you look back in the days of the seventies

(44:06):
and the eighties and how different the equipment was and
how I mean the hitting then was. It was. It
was tough, and I don't know that it is what
it is now because you have three hundred and thirty
pound guys who were flying down the field and laying

(44:27):
people out. I always used to I always used to
talk to Jim Lache about these type of things when
we were on the road. We would just get into
our conversations and Jim would always tell some great stories
about how vicious the NFL was at that time. And
it still is. I mean, the game is still very
I mean people laugh now and say, oh, it's touch

(44:47):
football now, Well, no, it's not. Go stand on the
field and watch a game and then tell me that
it's touch football. That's just a ludicrous thing to say.
The rules are different now because you want to try
to keep people upright and functional and let them play
in the games. And also the money that's involved in
it is what's that?

Speaker 3 (45:07):
And also after oh yeah, they were a lot more
thought about after you play in that, which there wasn't.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
There wasn't back zero. But Jim would always tell me
that the one place in an NFL game you never
wanted to be was at the bottom of a pile
going after a fumble. He said, because the things that
went on and those scrums, guys gouging, pushing, biting, scratching,

(45:34):
trying to get the football. He said, it was just
you knew if you dove into that pile how ugly
it was going to be. And that's why watching the
Bengals game on Sunday, every time Philadelphia went into that
tush push or the brotherly shove or whatever the heck
they call it now, that was always when that went

(45:58):
through my mind right away. Well, I mean the center
that the guys at the front of the offensive line,
the guys at the front of the defensive line, at
the bottom of that I mean, and Jalen Hurts, I
mean the touchdown that he scored. I mean a lot
of people were saying that it wasn't a touchdown. If
you watch the replay, the overhead shot shows that it
clearly was a touchdown because he stuck the ball, he
was able to get the ball across the plane. But

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I just I can't imagine what that was like. And
you had to wait for everybody to be pulled off
the pile while the scrapping went on for the ball.
It just and you see that in for example, and
when there's a bench clearing brawl in a baseball game,
because it always ends up in a big pile and
the things that probably go on to the bottom of

(46:43):
that pile probably aren't very pretty either. But I just
I think sometimes we're unfair to today's athletes by saying
they're not as tough as those guys were back in
the seventies and eighties because everything is just so different now.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Yeah, it's it's apples to oranges on it it is.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
It's like and it's like the Lebron Michael argument all
the time. You know who was better and we all
know it's Michael. That when you look back at that
the game was just played at a different level. Everything
was a different level then than it is now. And
money is a big, big factor in it.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Yeah, I mean, and then there's also a different athletic
element to it back in the day, not that these
weren't people's full time jobs, but a lot of these
athletes today have been since they hit puberty, sometimes even before,
have been training their bodies and they're coming out three
to ninety but can still run of a four second

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forty yard dash.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
So yeah, it's amazing, but it is unleashing. I remember
watching a clip of promo for football for the NFL
in like nineteen ninety seven. Every single one of the
hits they showed, that's a flag today. Oh it's a
flag exactly. It's just a different world of football, but

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they're playing.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah, they realized you had to do something because the
way the game is progressing, as far as the height,
the ability, the athletic the way these athletes are so
well conditioned, and the way they can just do all
these things that the game that the game was just
it's it's a dangerous.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Game already exactly.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
And I know I'm not telling you anything. You don't
know if you watch it, but the perception that today's
athletes aren't as tough as the athletes back in the day,
I don't necessarily know that's true. It's just the game
was played differently then, and I reference that Lakers Celtics
thing for example, and my generation will we have always
kind of thought that that the guys back then were

(48:57):
a lot tougher. Well, I think the guy back then
we're better in a lot of respects. I don't think
some of the teams today could play with any of
those teams back then, But from a toughness standpoint, I
think they're all. I mean, I don't see the difference
quite frankly, And as I said, I think Anthony Ridgardson

(49:18):
just simply just simply made a mistake. He'll pay for it,
but hopefully he'll get better from it and may be
able to move on. Next hour, we'll hear from Jameis
Winston the press Box.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Welcome to the press Box with Marty Banister, the latest
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Called Marty now at nine to three seven by three,
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Speaker 2 (50:24):
I think we ran a double, you know, twice as
much as we threw it in the game, and so
We're looking to establish the run. But when you can't
convert them the third downs, the third and shorts, then
you can't get drives going.

Speaker 6 (50:32):
You can't wear down defense. So we've got to convert
on third down.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Ohio State head coach Ryan Day his big concern from
the Nebraska game on Saturday, one of the big reasons
Nebraska stayed in the game. Welcome to the press box,
Fox Sports nine eighty wne I, Marty Banister, Kennedy b'
is alongside for the ride, and you have us right
up until five o'clock this afternoon. We have a couple
of fan polls up for you today. Number one, we're
asking you which team should be active at the NFL

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trade deadline prior to next Tuesday. Should it be the Bengals,
Should it be the brown Should it be both teams?
Or it depends on what happens on Sunday. And right now,
the Bengals are the leader in the category at thirty
six percent. Also ra asking today what happens to Ohio
State's college football playoff chances is, if they lose at
Penn State on Saturday, win out and they still get in,

(51:17):
they will need help to get in or it eliminates them.
And right now in that poll, it is a tie
between win out and in and we will need help
to get in, each receiving thirty seven percent of the vote.
So there we have that. So we appreciate all your
responses to that as well too. To the Bengals Browns.
Other thing, we got a response from our friend the

(51:38):
Nudge who checks in and says, come on, Marty, not
one Browns fans. A fan thinks we're going to the
playoffs and speaking Baltimore, listen to Cleveland Radio, Nuge, they're
doing playoff scenarios what it will take to get them
in the playoffs. They're doing it. There are fans out
there who now think that they're going out of Joe Flacco. Run.
I didn't say they were going with Swinston. Yeah. I

(52:01):
didn't say it because.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
They're not well, I mean James.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
But there are fans up No, but there are fans
up there who are calling into shows doing playoff scenarios
what it will take to get them in the postseason.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
He said, when he has to only make one decision
at a time, because that's very common for a quarterback,
he is a great, great, great quarterback.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Quarterback.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Great, that's the word, he said. I don't know if
i'd call him a stud QB.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
But well, there's only one of those. That's Kirk Cousins.
As we've come to find out, it's only one of those.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Hey, though, maybe Jared Goff, Okay, maybe maybe Jared Goff
is also a stud QB. I think maybe we need
a segment here where I go through the list of
stud qbs. I think we're missing an opportunity here.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Well, maybe we needed to find what a stud quarterback is.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Yeah, well, right now it's Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Because Kelly said. There is also a lot of chatter
if you remember it's been a while since this happened,
but former Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer made comments after it
was after Joe Burrow signed his contract extension, Carson Palmer
made some comments along the lines of, uh, this will

(53:26):
never work, or you you you'll you made a mistake.
You need to get out of there, and I'm paraphrasing
a lot of it right now, but there are there
there's a pretty serious thread going right now on on
X where there are a lot of Bengals fans who
are going on and posting things such as, well, I

(53:46):
guess we owe Carson Palmer an apology. Carson Palmer was right. No,
Carson Palmer quit. He quit on the franchise. Joe Burrow
hasn't done that yet. Now, when Joe Burrow does that, okay,
But Carson Palmer quit on that franchise, on that city,
on that team, that's what he did. He didn't want

(54:09):
to play there anymore. I've had it, I'm done. I'm
not gonna that's quitting. Yeah, that's quitting.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
A real bitterer coming from Carson. That's bitter whatever. That's yeah,
And just be quiet, bro, nobody exactly from exactly. You
didn't sign a contract.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
That's it, right, you wanted out, you got your wish,
go about your business. Just keep your yap quiet. Nobody
cares what you think. Exactly so and just but no one,
no one owes him an apology right now. But I
just found that funny too, because there's no question he
quit on the franchise, he quit on the city, he

(54:50):
quit on the team, he quit on everybody. And that's
what he is. He's a quitter, Carson Palmer is, that's
what he is. And he quit because he he didn't
want to be there anymore. He wanted to go someplace better.
He got what he wanted, So more power to you,
pal and I hope you enjoyed your NFL career, But
you can't. You can't compare your situation and that one

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to Joe Burrow's right now agreed, you can't because Burrow
had Burrows as the moment Joe Burrow comes out and
says I've had it, I want out of here, I'm done. Well,
then yeah, then you can say Carson Palmer was right,
and you can and you can and you can kind
of go down that road. But Joe Burrow hasn't done
that yet. And from everything that I have come to

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learn about Joe Burrow from people who are very close
to him aka his dad, I don't think you're going
to see that either. So but no one, Carson Palmer
and the Carson Palmer owes the city of Cincinnatian apology
for walking out and quitting after being paid all those
millions of dollars.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
All right, anyway, I understand, I just I'm surprised he
spoke up at all.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Well, that's he was asked a question on a show
and he gave his opinion and obviously it took off
and went where it went wherever it goes in social
media these days. So next Tuesday, of course kind of
a big day if you're a following anything that's going
on in the world right now. But there are also
some college football games next Tuesday night, And I was thinking,

(56:29):
what will you be watching next week on Tuesday? Because
obviously sports are supposed to be something that takes our
mind off of everything else that's going on, But how
can you do that on that night? Which whether you're

(56:53):
tired of hearing political ads, and I think a lot
of people are, and again I don't blame you. I mean,
I think we're all kind of sick of hearing this
about that person, and that person, say this about this person,
and this that and all the other things that come
with it. So it's hard to get away from it.
But what will you be watching next I'm just kind

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of curious what will you be watching next Tuesday night?
With the election coverage being what it will be, it
will be through the wall. You won't be able to
get away from it, But will you? I mean? And
the reason I asked this question is because these games
next Tuesday are going to be Mid American conference football games.
They're not going to be big ten games. Will you

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watch football just to get away from this next week?

Speaker 3 (57:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Probably?

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Yeah? Me, I probably.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Why why I'm curious, why why will you not watch
it because this next And again I'm not I'm not
going to get into that part of the discussion. But
it does matter to each and every single one of
us in one way or another. It does affect us.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
Yeah, absolutely, And I mean I'm going to vote. I'm
gonna do that part. But then after that, I've already
said to anyone who cared my opinions about it, and
at that like the game for me. At that point,
my part of the game is over, and all I
can do is wait for the results. And I would

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like to not watch the I don't need to watch
those results. I'm gonna check in. I'll check in to
know how I should be feeling, but I'm not gonna
I don't want to watch the coverage. I don't want
to hear the exit polls. I actually do. I don't
need any of that this year.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
But you won't. But you won't be able to get
away from it. You'd have to shut your phone down down.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
Really, that is yes, I actually want because, like I said,
I I've done, I'm gonna vote. I like to vote
day of, although I really like early voting. Definitely do
early voting if that it's gonna work best for you.
But I love to show up day of to see
who's out and about, to see who's in line at
the polls and all those things. And then I go

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and I take my sticker and I go get my
free items because you always they're like a free ice
cream cone if you vote. I get my free items.
And then I'm going home. I'm gonna hang out.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
With my dog.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
We're gonna we We're gonna I'm probably in a I'm
probably gonna play video games like something that will keep
me so busy that I can't even look at my
phone and can't because I actually don't. That's yeah, I
don't wanna. I I personally need a break. I mean.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
And and here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Because we work here, I've heard every single political ad,
probably more than your average American.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Oh yeah, and so I'm I'm so good. So okay,
So what you're saying then is and again, I broadcast
games in the Mid American Conference, and this is not
a shot at the MAC at all. But what you
saying is next Tuesday night, the results of Bowling Green
at Central Michigan and Miami at ball State are more

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important to you than the swing states of Michigan, Pennsylvania
in Wisconsin.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
Well, first of all, I love Miami football.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
So again I'm not saying again, I'm not taking that.
I'm not saying that you don't, and that's great, and
we'll have the game for you right here in Fox
Sports nine eighty next next Tuesday night. But those results
are more important to you keeping up on those instead
of watching what happen more.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
I would not even say more important. I would say
that proper distraction. That's what I'm looking for. I'm distraction
or a distraction because, like I said, I've I've done
the voting, I've rooted for my candidate and all the
candidates down the ballot, vote the whole way, especially locally,

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that that is really important. We talk a lot about
the president and all that jazz. What's happening in your
actual community you really can touch more than anything else else,
So pay attention to those elections as well. And once
you've done that, I feel like you've you it's it's
roulette at that point, like you've put the ball down,
you put your money down. It's it's going in a circle.

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I don't know where it's gonna stop, but me watching
it is not going to help me win or help
me lose. At that point, it's up, it's above me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Now. Yeah, I'm just curious because I think I think
there will be a lot of people who will do
what you're going to do next week, just completely try
to shut it all down and not even pay any
attention to it. And the bad thing about it is,
even though you're going to do it on Tuesday, on Wednesday,

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you're not going to be able to get away from it.
On Thursday, you're not gonna be to get away from it.
That's what I'm just trying that you're not gonna be
able to go because it's not it's just because it's
it won't be over by the unfortunately, I think no
matter how it is, I.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Think they're going to count every single vote like they're
going to wait.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Three and four times. But but but I think it's
interesting though that on a night like that that there
are a couple of football games, so there is that
distraction there that you can kind of just shift your
gaze and your focus. But there's no way to hide
from it though, absolutely no way to hide from it.

(01:02:16):
And that that part of it, to me is is
very interesting. I agree so that you that you might
want to. I mean, like my mom, my mom, she'll
be glued to the football games.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Yeah, yeah, she she voted.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
The last time my mom voted, My mom's eighty five.
The last time she voted was for John F. Kennedy.
And she always tells me and he got shot. Wow,
She's like, I'm never voting again. That's not why I.

Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
Know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
He was like, Mom, that's not why he's like, yeah,
he got shot. I never went back again.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
The next level of the announcer curse, I think, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Oh my gosh, it's the press box Sports Night at
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Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Get on the press box called Marty Now at nine
to three seven by three, one six, one seven zero
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Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
W O four nineteen. We continue along here with you
on this Tuesday afternoon. One other thing about next Tuesday
that I neglected to mention. You know what else happens
next Tuesday night. At the halftime of the first football game.
The release of the first college football playoff rankings. Oh
really next Tuesday night as well too. That's good time then,

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uh huh yeah, first week of that. So again, as
I said, uh, and the and that's also the day
of the NFL trade deadline. So uh, college football and
football they just they just keep rolling right along and nothing,
nothing stands in the way, nothing gets in the way.
So but yeah, I was just I was just updating
that and checking it during the break and that is Yeah,

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that's that's next Tuesday night as well too. So well,
the folks in Michigan and wiscons went everything else to watch,
so they have to worry about where they're going to
be in the ranking, so they can watch so that
they can watch watch the watch election results. What Pennsylvania
might want to be watching the results, depending on what
happened Saturday at State College. Sure, if they are somehow

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able to beat Ohio State. The big concern right now
for Ohio State is that offensive line, and with the
left guard position now very much in dire need of
somebody to step up and take charge against a very
talented penn State offensive line or defensive front. That's that
that's going to be a key part of that game
on Saturday. There's been some talk as well too about

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how some of the Penn State folks aren't happy because
the games of noontime kick. They would rather it be
under the lights and a white out. And if you
heard James Franklin say the comment we played at the
top of last hour when we open the show, we
need you regardless of what time the game is show up. Now.

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I've been over there for games at night. I've been
over there for noontime kicks. And let me tell you something,
the Penn State fans who wanted at night are right.
That place is unhinged at night over there, it is.
I mean they've had all day to get well lubricated
by the time the thing kicks off.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
And there is such a different feel in that series
between I think it's probably more the fan bases than anything,
but there is such a level of dislike between the
two fan bases. And I don't know where that well.

(01:06:03):
I think it probably stems back to ninety four when
Penn State was in its was that that was that
that was their first full year in the Big Ten,
I think was nineteen ninety four. They had the expansion
was announced in ninety two. Kelly Loo look that up
and see what what year was their first year as
a full fledged Big Ten football member. It was either

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ninety three or ninety four when they first came into
the league. And ninety three, okay, so they came into
ninety three. Well ninety four, I know, Ohio State played
over there and Penn State whilepped them like sixty three
to fourteen or something like that and that, and they

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thought always was by a lot of Ohio State fans
with that Joe Paterno. Then Penn State's coach kind of
ran the score up on Ohio State. But that Penn
State team was loaded. They had Kerry Collins at quarterback,
they had Kajana Carter at running back. I mean they
had they were just that seems kind of oozed talent,
and they punished Ohio State that day. But I think

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that's where the game, that rivalry kind of took a
different level. I think took it to a different level
Ohio State Penn State, because now it's just there's an era,
just a feeling of dislike amongst the two fan bases.
I think that's unique. It's certainly different than the Michigan game. Now,
Ohio State fans obviously don't like Michigan, and okay, we

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get that, and Michigan fans obviously don't like Ohio State.
But I think there's a certain, well maybe until the
Connor Stallions things came to fruition, there's been a level
of respect, healthy respect between the two. You talk to
former Ohive State players. I've asked Jeff Logan, this, I've
asked I have mentioned Jim. I've asked Jim and this.
I've talked to Greg Fry about this. There's a level

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of respect with Michigan because of what the game has
meant to college football, because of the Woody and bow
and all the things the game had, that game has
really become. If it's not the best rivalry game in
college football, it's in the top three definitely. The Army
Navy is there for anirely different reason. As I've said before,

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Go see an Army Navy game and then you'll know
why why that's the best rivalry in college football. Army
Navy is number one. Ohio State Michigan. It's either number
two or number three depending on what state you live in.
If you live in Alabama, Auburn, Alabama's number two. If
you live in Ohio State, in Ohio or Michigan, well,
the Ohist Michigan is number two. But the Ohio State

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penn State game, I'm guessing that maybe that has something
to do with it. The ninety four game and then
every game since then has just had this air of
I was I at that time, I had left the
first time, I had left Columbus to go to work
in Springfield, and I was off the Ohio State broadcast

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at that time. My first go around with an Ohio
State Pennslate game is two thousand and six, and the
game played in Columbus, and you could just sense it
in the building at Ohio Stadium that day that it
was just a there was just an air of dislike.
And I'm not I guess maybe it's because the two

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states are somewhat similar in their their football mindset. That
hard hat blue collar football mentality exists certainly in western Pennsylvania.
I'm not sure about the eastern part of the state
and the Philadelphia. It's because a lot of people tell
you from Pennsylvania that eastern Pennsylvania is completely different from
Western Pennsylvania. Oh yeah, because of Philadelphia. Philadelphia is more

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of an East coast city. Pittsburgh and in the western
part has more of a Midwest field to it, which
is why I always thought pitt would be a great
fit for the Big Ten. But intead we get Oregon, Washington,
US UCLA anyway, and Rutgers. But yeah, I just and
I know one year we when Ohio State woul over there,

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as the team buses were going up to the locker
room on the day of the game, there were fans
who were pushing the buses. There were things thrown at
the team buses as they were getting up there, and
it's like like, man, this is this is a different level.
And you would the locker room area where the interviews
would be done postgame wise, you would have to stand
outside to do your interviews because the locker room. See,

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the last time I was there was I think the
twenty fifteen season I Hio State played over there. I
think it was twenty fifteen or twenty fourteen, one of
the two and the locker room area, the locker room
was so small. I mean the running joke always says
you had to go outside to change your mind. I mean,
that's how small it was, and so you'd be outside
trying to do your interviews and Penn State fans are

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hanging over the fence, yelling and screaming at Ohio State players,
calling them everything in the book. And that's not unique
to Penn State. That happens everywhere. I know that, But
it just again, just the the hostility seems to be
so different in that game. They and I just sometimes

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I guess, maybe Kelly, the ninety four game is maybe
what kind of jump started that. Sure, I don't know,
it used to be.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
It used to be not so dominated, this rivalry used
to not be so dominated by Ohio State. So there
it was very competitive and even to even in recent years,
probably not the most recent years, but you go back
to twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, it's a one point game,

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twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, it's a one point game. So
these I mean, it's it may have started in nineteen
ninety four, but the fact that Ohio State in eighteen nineteen,
who are They're supposed to be this powerhouse that's world's
better than Penn State, And the fact that Penn State
continues to make it a game. I think that's why
the rivalry still breathes today.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Yeah, I think so. The looking back at it, since
twenty twelve, Penn State's won exactly one game against Ohio State,
and that was in twenty sixteen. That was the year
where they blocked the Ohio State field goal attempt and
ran it back for a touchdown. Ohio State was number
two in the nation going into that game, and that's
the only way the only time they've beaten Ohio State

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since two thousand. In twenty eleven, they beat Ohio State
in Columbus twenty to fourteen, and then after that it's
been Ohio State saved for that game. And you're right,
there was three straight or two straight one point games
thirty nine, thirty eight, and twenty seven to twenty six,
but most of them, more often than not, have been close.

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But again, I just I'm not really sure what has
fostered that era of and maybe I'm completely wrong on it.
I could be. It just seems to me, and I'm
just going on my experiences from being a part of
some of those games, that there's just a genuine dislike
among the two fan bases, just a genuine dislike there is.

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I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but it just
I don't know's it's hard to get a handle on it.
Though it is.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
Little like a little cousin sort of relationship. I feel
like there's this energy from Ohio State fans and really
the organization that you know, Penn State. They're this, you know,
fun little organization. They keep trying to beat us, but
they they're not gonna so. At the same time, Penn
State has been on this trajectory where they look really

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good and then they play a team like Penn State
or Ohio State rather and then everyone's like, oh, yeah, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
What is James Franklin's record. Obviously he's only beating Ohio
State once. I think he's only beating Michigan once.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
His record against the top ten and top five teams
is abysmal.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
It is it is, and I think that's where Hive
State fans take a lot of a lot of glee
in that knowing. And we joke about it here at times.
I mean, I've said it here a couple of times,
James Franklin going to James Franklin at some point and
lose his team a football game. It could very well
be on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Against top ten teams. He is three and seventeen.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
There you go, he's three and seventeen, and that kind
of that is a very good definition of what he is.
And I think that's part of it too, is they
get so far, but he can't take that next step.
So and I think too, probably when you go back

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to the Jerry Sandusky thing when that was, when that
was going on, there was a I think there was
such a distaste in a lot of college football fans
for what was going on, fair or not in state college.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
As a football fan, yeah, I think folks were disappointed
that now this era of just incredible football has felt tainted.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Well yeah, that's true too. But I mean I think
back because I remember being in Columbus at that time
when all that was going on, and there was such
a as I said, it's such a distaste for what
Penn State stood for or or acted like they stood for.
And I think that's kind of where it took it
to another level as well too, all of this Well

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you think you're so much better than us, Well see
you're not. Yeah, and you were doing these things in
your locker room. And again that's for another topic another time,
but it just it just seems to me that there's
just such there's just such a different feel about this game.
And I always thought back in the day when the
discussions were on that potentially moving the Ohio State Michigan

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game to the middle part of the season, that this
would this would be the game you replace it with
High State Penn State in week twelve. Yeah, I'd be
pretty good. Oh no, there's not nothing, no, not nothing
tops nothing tops Michigan, not nothing tops that other than
Army Navy. But yeah, you play that you played that
Week twelve. If you were to move to the High
State game, this is what you played weekad, this is

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what you'd happen, this is what would replace it. So
four thirty one the press Box, Fox Sports ninet eighty
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Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Seven by three one six, one seven zero the press
box on Fox Sports nine eighty WNA.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Four point thirty five. As we continue a long, great
article by Zach Barnett that's in Football Scoop, and I
wanted to talk about this a little bit as well
to today. He lists every major college football conference and
talks about what he refers to as the disaster potential again,
because every league has done away with divisions, so there

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are some, as he puts it, disaster potentials in every league.
And he lists that the chaos level as mild low
very high. In the Big Ten, the disaster potential is mild.
Right now, the Big Ten stands this way Indiana and Oregon. Again,

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how bizarre is that to say no one had that
another bingo card. Back in August, Indiana and Oregon are
tied for the Big Ten lead at five and oh
Penn State is four to o. Ohio State is three
and one, and Zach barnetsa article. Ohio State is what
he calls the chaos candidate. Well because and he's right,
think about it. Sure, Indiana, Oregon, and Penn State do

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not play each other, so there is the unlikely but
still possible chance that all three finished nine to oh
I mean it's there. Penn State beats Ohio State, Indiana
beats Ohio State, which again I don't think one of
those are going to happen. I think it's pretty much
a given. I think Oregon, even though they have to

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come west, they have to come east again this weekend.
I think they play at don't they They play at
Michigan this weekend. I think Oregon does be their third
trip east in about four weeks something along those lines.
I think it's is it this week that they're at Michigan, Kelly,
Oregon the second? Yeah, November second, Yeah, yeah, yeah. And

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they were just at Purdue last Friday night. So at
any rate, I still think they're they're they're head and
shoulders better than Michigan. Michigan just can't score and going
up against Oregon, that's not a good thing to have
on your side. You can't score playing Oregon. But Indiana, Oregon,
and Penn State can all finish nine and oh that's

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a distinct possibility. I mean not distinct, but it is
a possibility. The tie breaker would come down to the
two highest cumulative conference winning percentages of each team's nine opponents.
In that case, the odd team out would be Indiana.
They play one and four UCLA one and four, Maryland
one and four, Northwestern two and three, Nebraska two and three,

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Washington two of the Michigan State A one four Purdue. Yes,
so their winning percentage isn't good enough. And that's the
problem with going away from divisions. I said it when
this was announced I'll say it now and I'll say
it when this potentially happens. If you keep divisions, you
don't have this problem. And if there was ever a
year for the Big Ten to be East and West,

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this is the year because you could still potentially have
Ohio State Oregon again. I mean you could potentially have
it again. But think about it. If you're an East
and West right now, then you know you're going to
get an Ohio State Oregon again. Yeah, or a Penn
State Oregon. You know you're going to get that now
you don't know. And if you're in Indiana, you're nine

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and oh, I mean if you're going and don't play, yeah,
and you may not play in the Big Ten championship. Yeah,
that's the good. That's why this is such a That's
why I hate that that you do away from the
divisions like this. It just and but the argument is, well,
it gives you a chance to get the two best teams.
No it doesn't. It doesn't. So but that that's the

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Big Ten. Uh chaos potential the SEC, their disaster potential
is there because right now you have right now that
the team that leads the SEC is Texas A and
M they're five and oh wow, just coming off that
win over LSU. Georgia is number two in the country
and number two in the SEC at four and one.

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Tennessee is three and one. Texas is three and one.
L s U is three and one. Georgia hosts Tennessee
on November thirtieth. Texas closes out at Texas A and M.
How much fun is that going to be if they're
both like tied for the SEC lead. So back in
the summer, the SEC released it's tiebreaker handbook. It's twenty

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two pages. Geez, twenty two pages. We're again, if you
have an East and a West, you don't have this problem.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
Yeah, And twenty two pages is just a lot of
rigamoreau to say, we will ultimately be choosing who we
put in in that final in.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
That final game. Here is I'm going to read this.
This is one part of the twenty two page SEC Tiebreaker.
In sub paragraph C category three of Appendix A, capped
relative scoring margin per Sports Source Analytics, I want to
throw up, well, well not yet. Hang on. Listen in

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a paragraph one. In this example, if team A has
scored more than forty two points, their relative offensive scoring
percentage would exceed two hundred percent due to the built
in cap their offensive their offensive percentage will be designated
as two hundred percent for the game. On the defensive side,
the best possible score is zero percent, not allowing any points,

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so no cap is required. Ah, that's part of the tiebreaker.
If you have more than one team.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
Oh gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
I mean again, if you have divisions, you don't have
this garbage you have. You have the two best teams
in their divisions, which are everybody said, well, that may
not be your two best teams, but if you don't
win your division, are you the best team? See that that?
I again, it's a good point.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
I mean, you beat the teams in front of you,
and you should be rewarded for doing su.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Yes, yes you should. In poor Indiana, which is having
the season of its football history, best season, they I
mean again, as I said that, they probably won't go
nine and oh, they could probably come over to Columbus
and get boat raced in a few weeks. That's I
don't think that's out of the realm with possibility. But

(01:23:10):
then again, it all depends on what If I have
State loose on Saturday. I think all bets are off
about Ohio State at that point because you just don't
know what they're going to be. All the millions that
were spent on that team and now they're going to
hang them by a thread.

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
Well, here's the thing. Indiana whooped up on Nebraska, and
Nebraska had Ohio State on the ropes a little bit.
So you never you really never know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
Yeah, you never know. But how bad would that be
for Indiana to go? I mean, if they go nine
and oh, that means they're going twelve and oh yeah,
that means they have finished twelve and oh And how
do you tell a team in your league, congratulations you
went nine and oh twelve and overall, but you can't
play for the conference championship?

Speaker 4 (01:23:55):
How do you do that?

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
I don't that's the goofiness of all of this. That's
just that's the goofiness of all of that. I don't know, Yeah,
it is. It's I mean, can you imagine if that happens.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
I mean, if you if you remember the stink Florida
State put up Nebraska, Nebraska will I mean, We'll see
Cornhuskers all over the country.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
It would be they would be uproarious. I just I
mean again, I don't think there's any way that Indiana
does this because there was a couple of threads, A
couple of threads as well too on on X the
other day about how how unfair is it that Indiana's
unbeaten and not if it were an SEC team and
they were nine to know they would be in the
top five. Well, you look at Indiana's schedule and that's

(01:24:37):
your answer. They haven't beaten anybody of any of any
of any oomph right now. I mean Nebraska take it.
I mean, Nebraska maybe showed a little bit going into
Columbus last weekend and scaring the Buckeyes off of Ohio State,
but I still don't think that you could. You can

(01:24:58):
look at indiana schedule, match it up against Oregons, and
Oregon is obviously going to be in the top Yeah,
I mean is number one for a reason.

Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
Yeah, they're they're playing the teams and they're beating the teams.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
But but still it's just uh, I just again. Division
the divisions are the way in this era of expanded conferences,
especially in the divisions, are the only way to go
about this now only way to go about this. The
Big twelve has a disaster potential as well too, because
BYU and Iowa State are your leaders in the Big twelve.

(01:25:34):
Utah and b YU play this week, and what's they
always call that game the Holy War, the BYU Utah Game.
Iowa State hosts Kansas State UH in the they call
it the Pharmageddon in Colorado.

Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
Just creeping, creeping, creeping through the other four and one.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
Yeah, kind of yeah, on the outside looking in. So
but we'll talk about the ACC when we come back.
It's got a a big mess too, I mean a
really big mess. You've got four unbeaten teams in the
in the ACC right now. It's the press box Fox
Sports nine eighty w O name.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
Get on the press box called Marty now at nine
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Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Boston College, Virginia and cow ACC games. Miami has Duke,
Georgia Tech, Wake Forest at Syracuse. Clemson has Louisville, Virginia
Tech and Pitt. So they have the toughest road to
hold any of those teams because those three teams they
have left to play are nine and three right now combined.

(01:26:59):
But for Barnett writes for simplicity's sake, the ACC has
to hope Pitt beats SMU on Saturday, simply because if
simply because Pitt hosts Clemson on November sixteenth, if the
Mustangs win, look out, you could have SMU in their
first year in the ACC playing for the ACC Championship,
which again just does not sound right.

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
But it's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
The ACC is a mess. I mean, it's it's just
as far as that's concerned. So the SEC we talked
about that those are the leagues that are the disaster
potential of the Mountain West, Boise State, Colorado State, San
Diego State. Those are the three unbeatens. And Boise State

(01:27:45):
play host to San Diego State on Friday, So it
looks like they can win out and they would be
the team that gets that group of five spot in
the College Football Playoff. Would be Boise State, and they
would be a very dangerous team, just as to Oregon.
I mean, they probably should have beat earlier in the year.
And so but again the point Kelly made is a

(01:28:06):
very good one. Colorado just kind of hanging out in
the hanging out in the fringe, just kind of playing
right along. So but we'll see. But it is going
to be It's going to be chaos, And I think
that's one of the things that college football fans or
a lot of people love. People love chaos and things
like this. All the different mindsets of all this all right.

(01:28:28):
Sunday in Cleveland, the Browns rolled past the Baltimore Ravens
twenty nine, twenty four and had a performance from Jameis
Winston that they had been hoping for from a quarterback
of the Cleveland Browns. And it was Jameis Winston who
during these comments you will hear him be asked about
his abilities in the NFL. And Jameis Winston has a
very very high opinion of himself as an NFL quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:29:00):
See uh and I really appreciate the fans for coming
out here and helping us win this game. We gave
y'all what y'all wanted hopefully. Uh So let's continue to
show up and show out and keep building.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
Jim Sweare, do you think the offense was as successful
as it was today?

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
I mean, obviously you played a big part of that,
but it would have moved the ball up and down
the field consistently.

Speaker 6 (01:29:18):
Yeah, A lot of.

Speaker 4 (01:29:19):
People had their their their factors. Office line played great
all day. We were fishing in the run game. Guys
were open. Uh. But at the beginning of the week,
you know, we had this change. You know, our head
coach stopped calling plays, like why why did he do that?
Ken Dorsey had stepped up. But that just showed great
leadership from the top down with coach Kevin, you know,

(01:29:40):
being certain about this decision to change, and Ken showed up.
He put in great work and he did an our
standing job today to lead us.

Speaker 3 (01:29:47):
What went through your mind when you saw Kyle Emson
dropped that dropped the interception.

Speaker 4 (01:29:52):
Oh, I started praying instantly, you know, I started praying instantly.
It was only about the grace of God. And I
think when when situations like that happened, you you you
always sit back and you're like, man, I still got
the stuff to work on, right, because it could have
been a matter of whatever. Who knows how we would
feel right now, Uh, if that would have happened. But
I'm so grateful that that was a if and ifs

(01:30:12):
and should and would have could haves don't mean nothing
in this game.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
James, the Ravens don't stop whatzing so schramatically, how do
you handle that and that's the guy getting hit all
the time.

Speaker 4 (01:30:21):
How well they, Like I said, we did a great
job up front. Guys got open and uh. And when
you are able to be efficient in and running games,
stay and good down in distances, Uh, you're able to
kind of slow down that pressure. Uh. And you're able
to kind of attack them a little bit, not playing
to their handler.

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
Just ahead the game today And and you know what
does it do for you?

Speaker 6 (01:30:44):
You know, for his the last couple of weeks do
for his confidence, you know going forward.

Speaker 4 (01:30:48):
But he's a he's a young receiver, and he's hungry.
He's hungry to get better. He's hungry to get the ball.
But but man, look at all of our guys, like
we had guys with multiple targets. Man, Jeff Swayne got him,
got him a catch out there today. You know, Dave
always wins his one on one matchups. Elijah Moore showed
up and showed out today. Jered judy Is continued to
get open and break plays. And Cedric just found his niche. Man,

(01:31:09):
he's found his niche. He's blocking well for us, he's
getting open, he's playing physical at the line of scrimmage
and he's doing some good things for you to play
like you did.

Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
Jami's your first start in two years.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
What was that like for you? It was a blessing.

Speaker 5 (01:31:24):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:31:25):
I'm so like I said, I'm so happy and grateful
that God gave me this opportunity to lead this team. Man,
I've been starving for this opportunity. But the way the
guys took me in and again, the way that when
you're able to have a meet with your head coach
and he's certain of what he wants to do, that
instills confidence in you, and then that confidence the zuber
rations throughout the building and you're able to implement that

(01:31:46):
in every single situation, every single conversation that you have
with the men that you're fighting with. And I think
that just resonates a lot by the people we got
running this organization.

Speaker 6 (01:31:55):
You mentioned that it's.

Speaker 8 (01:31:57):
Easier to give those pregame speeches and bring that juice
and that fire and that energy when you're also gonna
be playing with the team. So do you think they're
It had a little bit of an extra kick to
it today and everybody kind of bought in even a
little more.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:32:09):
I think you have a certain level accountability when you're
willing to to to speak your heart to the team,
like the guys know, like they know you're in the
battle with them. And when they know that you're in
a battle with them, Uh good or bad, Uh, They're
gonna fight for you, man. And I'm so grateful that
our office line they set the tone. Our defensive line,
they set the tone. And you know, in the NFL,
like that's what win games. When your offensive line dominates

(01:32:32):
the line of scrimmage and your defensive line dominates the
line of scrimmage, you win football games every single time.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
And if you've been in those two minute situations before,
what was kind of going through your head as you're
you're giving the offense out moving them down the field,
fighting that touchdown?

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
But what was going through your line in that stretch?

Speaker 4 (01:32:47):
One play at a time, one play at a time,
like over and over again. Once I stepped in huddle,
when we were able to huddle, Hey guys, one play
at a time, Hey guys, one play at a time.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
Serious where you left practice Friday, did you feel like
this offense was sitting on a big game.

Speaker 4 (01:33:01):
When coach de Fancas told me I was staring quarterback,
I said this offense was sitting on the big game
like I knew it, like you. Honestly, you could see
it with Dashaun in his last drop, Like in his
game last he's fifteen to seventeen, hundred and twenty three
yards like this offense was starting to roll

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