October 30, 2024: Ohio State Preview & Fan Rules

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the press Box with Marty Banister, the latest
on all local sports from Wright State to the Dayton Flyers,
from the Reds and Buckeyes to the Bengals and Browns.
Called Marty Now at nine three seven by three, one six,
one seven zero the press Box on Fox Sports nine

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eighty Wona.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
As God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.
Happy WKRP Turkey Drop episode day to you and yours.
Yes this date nineteen seventy eight, one of the funniest

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thirty minutes of TV sitcom history, on one of the
best TV shows of that time period and maybe of
any other. WKRP in Cincinnati. Welcome to the press Box,
Fox Sports nine eighty WNA. I'm Marty Banister. Every time
I well, we get to this time of year that
pops up, and I just it just brings back so
many memories and of just how just how hilariously funny

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that show was, and I just it's just to me anyway,
I just spectacular. Good ahead, me with the Sitarus Afternoon
Kennedy's alongside for the ride. Worth your right up until
five o'clock live to get into today. We'll talk buck eyes,
we'll talk Penn State as they get ready for the
showdown on Saturday. We'll hear from both head coaches during
the show. Today, we'll hear from CALVS head coach Kenny Atkins.
So they have a big game tonight. I remember that

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Lebron James guy. He's bringing his team back to Cleveland tonight,
his lost Angles Lakers. And again, you have to say it.
If you're in the East lost Angles, you don't say
Los Angeles Los Angles. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
You keep saying that and I have yet to confirm
nor deny.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Well, no, there is some truth to that. You'll do
some research. You'll find out it's to make a sound hip. Yes,
oh well yeah, yeah, you've succeeded. I could talk for
hours and that would never happen. But yeah, so at
any rate, that's uh yeah, well you have to say that.

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We have to say it that way. Us beaking of
Los Angeles. Yankees Dodgers played tonight in the World Series.
It goes one more game. After the Yankees' bats decided
to show up last night and they beat the Dodgers
to a win Game number four. An interesting moment happened
in the game last night. We're going to talk about
that during a portion of the show today where the

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fans interfered with Mookie Betts trying to catch a fly ball.
When you get your thoughts on all of that during
the show today, so we'll do that. It's one of
our two fan polls today. One of those again deals
with that. We're asking you today simply, what should how
should fans who interfere with the game like last night
in the World Series be penalized? What should happen to them?

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Should they get Lifetime bands from the ballpark or the stadium,
or the arena or the wherever it is they're watching
an event, Should they just be tossed simply from the
game or nothing. They paid for their tickets, They have
a right to be there, and right now, Lifetime bans
getting sixty six percent of the vote right now. So

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we're going to discuss this a little bit a little
bit later on here to program after the first break.
Also today, we mentioned Ohio State Buckeyes and Penn State
on Saturday in State College Simple Question today, We're asking
you what happened Saturday at Penn State. Ohio State wins
by double digits. Penn State wins a close game, Penn
State routes the Buckeyes or Ohio State wins a close game,

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and right now Ohio State winning a close game is
getting fifty percent of the vote, followed by Penn State
winning a close game. No one seems to think that
either team's going to route the other one or pull
away and win on Saturday, so we will see the discussion.
The last couple of days has been interesting about Ryan
Day and James Franklin because neither coach has had what

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you would call a great deal of success in their
biggest games on the schedule. Now, James Franklin, as we
lined out for you the other day, has not had
a whole lot of success in the Big Ten in
big games against Ohio State, against Michigan, where Ryan Day
has had a lot of success in the Big Ten

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in big games except for the Big Game, and then
when you get into the postseason where he has struggled
there as well too. So kind of an interesting little
side story to that one on Saturday, So we can
get into that a little bit later on as well
today too. During the Fox Update the top of the hour,
they mentioned some of the players who aren't practicing today.
You can also add Orlando Brown junior and T Higgins

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to that list. Didn't practice today for the Bengals, getting
ready for the game with the Las Vegas Raiders on
Sunday in Cincinnati. So take it for what it's worth.
It's Wednesday after an off day yesterday, so we'll see
how this all plays itself out of We closed in

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on kick Sunday for Cincinnati Browns. I had most everybody
ready to go today when they got back on the
practice field. They have the Michigan Chargers in on Sunday afternoon,
Jim Harbaugh's team, so that one will again as they
try to right their season and hosting the Chargers on Sunday.
So other than that, that is pretty much what is

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going on in the world of sports on this Wednesday.
It is a one of those again. Wednesdays usually kind
of really kind of the slowest day of the week
as far as things going on. There were some college
football games last night, but nothing of any great import,
and there were also some NBA games and some NHL
games of the Blue Jackets are back in action. Oh oh,

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there was MLS last night. I actually did watch the
last thirty five minutes of the Columbus New York Red
Bulls match last night. What'd you think? H yeah, Well,

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I'm trying to how do I say this. I wasn't.
I wasn't. I wasn't overly excited by it. I mean,
Columbus lost one nothing for one thing to the Red
Bulls of New York. And it's a best of three series.
So the next game is Saturday in New York. So,

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but I think they're also as gold differential as a
part of it as well too, in the in the
way the format is set up. So but the two
seed is Columbus and they lost last night. Again, as
I said, MLS, I just okay, it's all right, it's
uh yeah. I just I just don't really go head

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over heels about it like a lot of people do.
I'm sorry, I just it's not because it's soccer, because
as I said, for I love watching the Premier League,
I love watching World Cup. But this I don't know.
I just I just I haven't just tough time getting
into this. It can't really lay it out. For one
simple reason, it just doesn't seem to have the same,

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at least to me, the same emotion that the Premier
League or World Cup soccer has so I just it's
just kind of hard, not quite so yeah. Yeah. Speaking
of soccer, the city of Cleveland as a finalist for
a National Women's Soccer League franchise. That has been that
news coming out a little bit later on, a little
bit earlier today. So congratulations to Cleveland with that in mind,

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so that coming out Cincinnati, there was in Cincinnati City
government the other day held a number of sessions where
they were trying to figure out if a dome on
paid Course stadium is feasible. The price tag tossed out was, oh,
only about a billion dollars. So wow, I don't know.

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And see, here's the thing that's that's so it's so
funny about these three years ago, coming off a Super Bowl,
then you think, yeah, let's get a dome bill, let's
do that, because the good feelings were there, the community
had rallied back around the team and the franchise. And
now here you are at three and five, and no

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one seems to think that the ownership cares that much
to go after the things they need to go after.
We've kind of fallen back into that malaise again about
well they're just cheap and they don't want to spend
any money and they don't want to do the things
you need to do to make sure the franchise is
taken care of a aka Joe Burrow. So now people
are well, we're not spending that kind of money on

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a dome. We don't want that. So it's a it's
not a vicious cycle, but it is a It just
kind of shows you how fast all of that can change. Yeah. Absolutely,
And that's kind of where we're are right now. And
I think the same thing is the situation in Cleveland
because Jimmy Haslam wants to move the Browns to Brook

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Park and build a dome there, and the city of Cleveland, well,
they're all up in arms over that. They don't want
that to happen. They unveiled their own plan, some drawings
for this dome that looks like something out of the
year three thousand. Yeah, I mean, I don't see that
getting done. But that's where you're at these days with

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trying to get these type of facilities built and the
type of money that is needed to get these type
of facilities built, because you look at so far, which
is really I think kind of the benchwater an hour
the watermark rather for new stadiums after the Vikings New Stadium,

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well this one just took it to another level. Allegiance
Stadium in Las Vegas. I've never been there, but people
who have been there tell me it's just unbelievable of
the amenities involved in that facility. So which makes it
remarkable when you think about it, that the Superdome is
still a viable and usable facility because the Superdome was

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built back in the mid seventies, and by this time,
stadiums that are that old are either dust, rubble or
not usable. But the super Dome just plows right along.
I mean, it's it's iconic. I don't think there's any
question about that, because you when you see pictures, you
know exactly what that is. It's I mean, how many

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Super Bowls have been played there? Yeah, Final Fours. You
just go on and on and on. But the Superdome
just continues to be what it is. And I know
they've they spent millions in New Orleans here. I don't
know how many years ago was that when they renovated.
I think it was after Katrina where they spent millions

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renovating the facility after the hurricane. But that stadium it's
it's really when you think about it, it's it's the Dome. Now,
when you think of domes, you think super Dome used
to be. The Astrodome was the one that you thought
a lot about.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
They're actually about to renovate the Superdome again. Five hundred
and sixty million.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Wow. Really that I had not seen.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Literally, I mean they announced this in late August, and yeah,
that's uh.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Five sixty wow the money, and that's to me, that's
just staggering. It is.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
I've been thinking a lot about Steve Bohmer's Into It Dome.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, the Into It Dome that's brand new.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
He has what he calls the fan Wall, which is
basically ninety I think ninety seats up, which is reminiscent
of a football or a student section, and you know
what I mean. And the only people that can sit
there have to be wearing Clippers gear. No other fans
can sit there. So he's essentially made a student section

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for his NBA team, the Clippers.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Great idea, great idea. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
The first people that played against them, the Suns, A
couple of players actually noted it. They you know, Kevin
Durant was like, I missed a free throw, so it's
something is working. I mean, so that's he and he
spent two billion dollars of his own money. He actually

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did not get funding from the City of Los Angeles.
They said, well, Steve Balmer has it.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
He's got it.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
He's one of the richest owners in all of sports.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
He writes you a check. He's good for it. You
know it's not it's not going to bounce down the
down the eye.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
No question, no question. So I mean, I mean it's
a big deal though the stadiums are are I mean
huge money obviously.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, But when you think about it, as I said,
the super Dome is the dome now, because it used
to be. As I said, you had the Astrodome, then
you had what was it after the The Silver Dome
was the next one. Everybody went with those inflatable balloon
style roofs that that compressed air and everything that you
needed to the vacuum type of situation inside the buildings.

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That one, and then you had the Lucas Oil Stadium
in Indianapolis. The Kingdome was the other one too, out
in Seattle, but those are all parking lots and rubble.
Now the Astrodome is still in existence. It's just right
behind whatever. The name of the stadium in Houston is
r E G or R F N R T N

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R G B R D M O U S whatever
it is.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
I mean, those names change all the time though.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
That's they do. They do, but that one. But the
Astrodome is still there and I think they still use
it for well, they use it for various and sundry events.
But that was also the facility too. That was the
first one you thought when you used to think domes,
you thought astrodome, that was the one. And now the
Superdome is from a dome the standpoint, it's the Superdome.
So but again, the money involved in all these things

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is just phenomenal to try to get all this rounded
up and get people to be willing to do it,
and it all kind of circles back to if your
franchise is successful, chances are people will be more willing
to fork over some of their hard earned money to
fund it. Absolutely, But if you're not, then yeah, that's

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why I think some of these franchises make enormous mistake.
Like Cincinnati, you're making an enormous mistake. The goodwill that
was there a couple of years ago starting to wane
a little bit, you didn't capitalize on it, and I
just it's an interesting time right now for if you
want to you want people to hand over their money.

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Pony up is the phrase, right. A couple of fan
polls up today. What happened Saturday at Penn State, and
how should fans who interfere with the game like last
night in the World Series of penalizes. We're gonna talk
about that when we come back. Three to sixteen. Great
to have with us here on this Wednesday. It's the
press box Fox Sports nine eighty WNA.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Get on the press box called Marty Now at nine
three seven by three one six, one seven zero the
press box on Fox Sports nine eighty wn.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Eighty three twenties. We continue along with you here on
this Wednesday. It is the press box. It is Fox
Sports nine eighty WNE and I am Marty Banister. She
is Kelly b and we are glad you're with us
here this afternoon as we talked sports with you right
up until five o'clock and other things as we always
like to do. I mentioned at the top of the show.
Today is the anniversary of the WKRP in Cincinnati episode
where they had the Great Turkey Drop, and what is

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not really thought about when you think about that show,
The producer, director, writer, guy the name of Hugh Wilson
worked in radio, so a lot of the things that
happened in that show were taken off things that actually
happened when he worked at radio stations. Now, radio in
the seventies was vastly different than it is now, correct,

(16:20):
I mean vastly different. There were so many things you
could do on the air that you can't do now.
A lot of the things that they did the shows
were a little it was almost kind of a it
wasn't the Wild West, but there were just a lot
of things that went on on the air that would

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never ever ever survive today, and it was a if
you remember, that was about the time where I think
Don Eimas started to become big in New York. I
think he was in Washington before that, I think in DC.
And there've been various undry different disc jockeys that have

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had a huge, huge runs through their careers. But but
Hugh Wilson worked in Jacksonville for a while and also
he worked someplace else to I forget where he worked.
But again, a lot of these show ideas, and this
came from a promotion that one of the stations he
worked at did where they tried to drop turkeys and

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the great line, as God is my witness, I thought
turkeys could fly. That actually came from a general manager
of one of the stations that Hugh Wilson worked at.
Oh my gosh, it's just amazing. It really is. When
but that show I think about that show. That always
amazed me too. Working in radio as Kelly does, and
as I have done for a long long time, nobody

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wore headphones. You can't do this job without head fid
or or what are they were the earbuds now a
lot of people wear earbuds now or something on his lines,
you have to have those. You can't do this job
without them, literally, you just can't.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
They didn't even exist in that show, honestly, No.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
No, they didn't. They didn't. The other shows that have
had radio as a big part of their storylines. Frasier,
for example, he wore headphones every show he had headphones,
and a lot of that came from the fact that
one of the writers of that show was a guy
who named it Ken Levine A. Ken Levine was a

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minor league baseball announcer for many, many years with the
Rochester Red Wings. So he understood that you had to
make it to have the sense of reality about it,
that you had to wear headphones and the control board
you watch. Its similar to the one Kelly works a
lot of times, or has worked in the studio where
Ross sits in that show, the show news Radio, very

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very similar, very very close to being authentic.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
It much more accurate. Absolutely, yeah so.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
But again a lot of the shows though, where radio
is a part of it, where it's just it's just
it's just goofy. There's just no way that that could
even begin to happen. The one always that always laugh
at and it's a great movie, A League of their own,
where the guy who's doing the play by play, Squiggy

(19:20):
what was his name, the actor's name, he passed away
a few years ago. Kelly's looking it up right now,
but he's doing play by play and it's over the
p A.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah, that always bothered me.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Which isn't done, which just isn't done and never has
been done. So uh. And then there are some other
ones too, where in some of these movies, David David Lander,
David David L. Lander, just David Lander.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
David l He's been he goes by both in movies, right.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
There were there were some other movies where you had
a like a radio play by play guy the the
movie I think it was a Little Big League that
the kid took the mound with a like one hundred
mile an hour fastball. What over the heck? I just
you know, I've just saw a few bits and pieces
of it. But John Candy was the play by play
announcer in that in one of those movies. It's either

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that a Rookie of the Year or something like that.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
I think it's Rookie of the Year. Little Big League
is when for some reason, this twelve year old boy
gets to be the manager.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Oh that's right. Was it the Twins or the Cubs
or something? The Cub wasn't it?

Speaker 3 (20:32):
It was the Twins.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
It was Twins, okay. But but the announcers are made
to look like such buffoons, yeah, in these movies, and
I just could could just never understand that. I mean,
take it personally. I'm sure a lot of people say, well,
all you guys are buffoons. Well that that's not true.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, only like sixty to seventy.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
They might be a little higher than especially you're talking about.
But yeah, there's always amazed me that those were those
numbers were, or those characters were always made to look
that way during those movies. I just never understand that.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
But yeah, they had to make fun of somebody. I
mean sometimes the umpire would be, you know, kind of goofy,
usually like overweight, their clothes were always a little too small.
They just think they always pick on someone. And I
think the announcers are easy because they most people have
no idea what we're doing or what's going on in

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these rooms.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
They or the work or the work that it takes
to do these things correct. Correct Now. I know a
lot of times you probably think, listening to this show
that I just show up at two fifty eight and
sit down and try and do this program. Well, we
actually do put a little bit of umph into it.
May not be much, but maybe two fifty one. Yeah,

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we do our best. Yeah, well, if we do our best,
we we try to keep you entertaining. That's the whole
goal of all time. I'm trying very hard, I think. Yeah, Yeah,
so at any rate, right, let's move on now. The
situation last night Yankee Stadium. Again, we've seen situations over
the years. The Steve Bartman thing comes to mind at
Wrigley Field, where he inadvertently became a part of the story.

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There have been some other things. There have been some
incidents at Yankee Stadium and in years past where fans
have become involved in the game. The difference I think
about last night's situation was the two guys who were
involved in it both said, yeah, we'd do it again
if we had the chance. Yeah. Yeah. And we've always
we've always talked to each other about if we had
the opportunity to do that, we would do it. And

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that means if he didn't see what happened last night,
Mookie Bets of the Dodgers was trying to get to
a fly ball and these guys took the ball out
of his glove last night as he was reaching in
to catch the ball, and it just became it was
just a mess.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
And well, the other guy grabbed his arm and he
was holding him up so that he the other guy
could get the ball. That's that's a step too far.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Oh, it's past a step too far. It's but the
Yankees were going to let these guys back in the
ballpark tonight and major League Baseball, but hang on a second,
Hang on a second here, and they should not be
allowed anywhere near their seats. My opinion, if you interfere
your ticket gets you into the game, it doesn't make you.

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It doesn't give you the right to become a part
of the game. You're there to watch, not to interfere
with how the game works. So there's no excuse for
those guys to be let back in the ballpark at all. Heck,
if i'm the Yankees, their privilege of buying season tickets
is gone. They're not coming back in. I mean that,
just to me, that's over the line. It's way over

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the line. And I don't understand how the Yankees could say, oh, well, okay,
you guys come on back in for game what is it,
Game five tonight of the World Series. I just don't
understand them the thinking of that. And it's not as
if the Yankees, number one, have to worry about getting
people to buy season tickets. That's not a problem. Those

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seats become available, somebody will snatch them up right way.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
They're already gone. Yeah, Like it's it would be too easy.
The Yankees on their website have the language do not
lean on, reach over, sit on, or stand near, or
place objects on railings or ledges. So, according to the
Yankees' own code of conduct, right, those guys were wrong,

(24:28):
super wrong.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Well, there's no question that they were wrong. But at
the other part of it too is And I'm not
defending these two guys, but we've all been to games
where at some point a ball is hit near you
and your reaction is to try to deflect it or
catch it or whatever or whatever you do. But those
situations are somewhat different because most of us are sitting

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fifty five rows from the field or whatever it is.
These guys were right on the edge of the playing
field and decided that they wanted to to be a
part of the game, which they're not.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Yeah, they said that they would play d as in
defense if given the opportunity, Will you.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Boot those bozos if they don't come back to the
ballpark at all? I'm sorry, you just can't have that
because if you let those guys come back in, that
tells the other fifty two thousand people in the ballpark, well,
you can do the same thing. You're sitting in the
same seats.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yeah, especially if you're I think also because those seats
are so close, there is an element of money, Like
if you can afford to have these front row seats,
there are different rules for you. Then maybe if you're
in the boonies.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Is long because that's not the case.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah, exactly, And I don't think that. So I think
that because if this was happening in section two oh two,
those guys would get kicked out. I mean, it couldn't
happen in section two two, but if there was a
ruckus up there, you would be treated as such. We
would never even hear about it. This we've heard about.
I think you have to.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
I wouldn't say drastically. I don't think a lifetime ban,
but I'm definitely giving them a three sixty five, like
a one year, one year ban.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, they don't come back in because you're
not part of the game now. We always like to
hear from the news Chan and I appreciate him always
checking in. He responds. Just like most stuff these days,
this story is completely overblown. Bets went into the fans area.
They just wanted the balls, not the No. One said
it was the end of the world. But they interfered

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with the play. You can't have that going on. You
just simply can't have that happen, he says. People talking
lifetime bans are ridiculous. Oh, I don't necessarily agree with that.
You cannot interfere with the game. You just can't do it.
That's not what your ticket allows you to do. Your
season ticket, it doesn't allow you to do that. I

(26:56):
disagree with that whole hardly. Obviously you toss him, you
don't let them back tonight. Obviously they don't come back
for the rest of the game. I wouldn't. I wouldn't
if the Yankees decided to ban them, that wouldn't phaze
me at all. I don't think it's being completely overblown either.
Bets went into the fans area, Well, of course he did.
He's trying to win a baseball game. Yeah, he's trying
to catch a fly ball. That's what he's supposed to

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be doing. The fans in the stands aren't supposed to
interfere with the game, which they did. There's a difference.
There's a difference there.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, I mean technically they like the ledge is is
the barrier like before, the ledge is where fans are
allowed to be, but the ledge is in play. The
ledge is in play technically, so I like as a
fan and I get it. I mean, if it's my

(27:45):
team and it's the Latin we're fighting for our lives
in the World Series, I might do something silly too,
but I don't think you're I think there are consequences
if you make that move.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
There's consequences, sure, and you have to you have to
have I mean. And the other part of this is too,
is these guys have even gone public and admitted they
wanted to do this, they wanted to be a part
of this, and it's not it's the story is not
being completely overblown. I disagree with that too. It's again,

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you can't. You can't have the inmates running the asylum.
I mean, you just can't. And fans should know their limits.
And that's part of the problem too. As I said,
these guys were that has been so if they had discussed, hey,
how can we affect the game if it ever happens,
this is what we do, wasn'ts if it was a

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spur of the moment thing. They just happened to be
in the wrong place. At the wrong time and decided that, hey,
we can do this. I disagree whole heart on that,
and I think whatever suspension the Yankees hand down, I
think they should. It's the press box, Fox Sports nine eighty.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Get on the press box called Marty now had not
three seven by three one six, one seven zero the
press box on Fox Sports nine eighty WN eighty three
thirty six.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
We're back with you here on this Wednesday afternoon in
the press box Fox Sports nine eighty w ol and
eight with you right up until five o'clock today. We
mentioned yesterday Zach Barnett of Football Scoopa published a a
very interesting story about the chaos level if you will,
they could come about with all these leagues now in
college football having done away with their divisions, and how
we could have, for example, there's a possibility. I don't

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think it will happen, but there's the possibility in the
Big Ten you could have three teams undefeated come season's
end Indiana, Penn State, and Orea because they don't play
each other as part of the new alignment with the
Big Ten. Right now, Well, Zach has posted another story
today which is to me, this is very interesting. The
Big twelve has asked all sixteen members schools to return

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their coach to player communication equipment after receiving reports that
teams could listen in on opponents conversations. So you had
to know at some point this was going to happen
when you will allow that open line with the player
to coach communication and the helmets, because now those get

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turned off with fifteen seconds left before the ball on
the play clock. You can talk up until fifteen seconds.
According to the story, issues with operational security first became
a parent during the Texas A and m Arkansas game
on September twenty eighth, at which point officials from each
Power for conference were notified. Concerns were raised again within
the Big Twelve onmn Tuesday, which prompted the conference to

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ask each member school to return its equipment, which will
now be outfitted with encryption technology. The conference hopes to
return the equipment in time for this weekend's games, but
schools have been instructed to develop a contingency plan. No
school has raised accusations of cheating thus far. The report
says this is the first season in which, as we said,
one coach can communicate directly with one player. That's when

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you see a player on the field, they have that
green dot on the back of their helmet. That's the
player you can communicate with.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
I'm surprised they didn't have an encryption. I was just
going to say that, what are you talking about? You
should have You should have thought of this before the
season started. Any any hacker worth their you know, salt
or whatever in the stands could It would be so easy.
You guys just threw you were like, hey, here's a mic,

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here's a speaker, hook him up and let them go.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
What are you talking about? There are people. Did you
see the one die Hard movie? I think it was
the fourth one where the character called the oh, I
forget what the guy's name was. Yeah, live and live
and let die Hard or die live and let die
or something like that, where they went into this guy's

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basement where all the power had been knocked off and
die Hard and die Hard yeah, whatever it was. But
the characters is Kevin Smith, and he had he had
he he was he was running like five generators and
he had oh he was still going in his basement

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command center, which is what, however, was referred to. But
that's the guy that came to mind to me right
away that that would be looking at trying to figure
out a way to interfere with these communications. I mean
you could. I mean, as you said, there are these
guys out there that that could do that. Yeah, yeah,
that have that, and you know they're trying to figure
out a way to do it. That it's out there somewhere.

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I mean, as you said, it's twenty twenty four, there
are there are people like that everywhere that have that
oh I don't know, that loose chip in their heads
that think that they can do things like that and
tap in. But yeah, it's uh uh that's interesting. And

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you're right too. How could you not have thought about
that before the season started. There should have been somebody
in your communications or you're somewhere that said, hey, wait a.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
Minute, you're going to have to have encryption technology in
these things because somebody is going to go all Connor
Stallions on you and try and figure out how to
get into this and just listen.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
And just and just absorb. You know, it's so wild
that this was a something they're doing mid season in
between like that's that's that's kind of absurd, and that
means someone brought it up or you know, the issues
happened in the seasons. It's so wild.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
It is that there's a great story from back in
the day in Major League Baseball which shows you how
they even back in those days, people were trying to
get around. I don't know if technology is the right word,
but there was a relief pitcher who used to pitch
for the Orioles. I think his name was Modrabowski, and
he got traded a couple of times, and for whatever reason,

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he managed to find the numbers to the bullpen phones,
so from each school he or from each team he
was playing for, so when he got traded to certain teams,
and he apparently had the ability to do deft impressions
of people. So like I'll just say he was with

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Baltimore for example. Well, if they're playing the Yankees, and
the Yankees pitcher is having a great game, he would
get on the phone in the dugout and call the
Yankees bullpen and say, get Smith up right now. Jones
are struggling on the mound, and the pitcher would turn
and see somebody up in a bullpen loosening up, and
it would completely disrupt his But he did that often.

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I mean this was a well known story that he
would and he he would impersonate let's just say Billy
Martin or whomever it was, and call these dugout, call
these bullpen phones. Get Smith up. John's not ready. He's
obviously having trouble right now.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
World Any advantage, I guess, any advantage.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
So but you see that this is where we're at
with this stuff, that it's that it's out there, and so,
I mean, I'm just again, I'm just surprised that the
Big Twelve, just or any league, i mean, the Big
Test Me.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Yeah, I'm sure it exists. I'm sure that it has.
They probably have some of the best cybersecurity guys in there.
Just always I would think, you think so actively working during.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Game, you would think so, would you. Yeah, I mean
you would have that.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
You'd have to you know, you can't have you can't
have Patrick Mahomes and and Andy Reid's call on YouTube
pop up on YouTube? What are you talking? Not?

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Oh my gosh, or have somebody somebody hack into the
signal and tell Mahomes don't run play whatever this play
is that? Why why are we running here red right
river instead of blue?

Speaker 3 (35:57):
We already got guys out here that look like Andy
Reid that show up at the games and things. We
don't need any more confusion. We got AI, we got
all this new stuff.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah, it's too much.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
You can really pretend you can use someone else's voice.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, I mean, if they were doing it back in
the sixties on a phone calling a dougy name exactly,
you know there's somebody out here trying to do it now. Yeah,
it's just uh, it's and I watch when I'm setting
up for broadcasts. I see coaches come up to the
press box and they they're getting all their gear set up,
And a lot of it happens in high school football

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where they don't have the technology that the colleges have,
where they're using like wireless mics, like just communicating with
the field. And so I would imagine that those i mean,
those signals are out there everywhere. They're floating around in cyberspace.
I can tell you this. I was calling a high

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school football game back when I was working in Springfield
a few years ago. My broadcast partner Jim Scobie and
I and we were using the unit's called a Marty unit.
It's not because of me, but it's called a Marty unit.
It's a remote broadcast unit and you would plug it in,
set up this big antenna pointed at the radio station
and that's how you got the signal back that we
didn't have to pay to have a phone line installed.

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Back then, we did games, believe or not. We did
games over landline phones where you would have a phone
line installed, plug into it, had a little we call it.
They're called comrades units. Probably telling you way too much,
but that's how you did games. Well, one game Jim
and I were doing using that Marty unit. During commercial breaks,
well we would talk to one another about things. Monday,

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after one of the games we did, I get back
to the station. I get a call from some guy
in Nova Scotia who goes, hey, He goes, uh, just
want to let you know you might want to be
careful what you guys talk about during commercial breaks, And thought,
how how did you know that? Well, he was listening,
just scanning the Ham radio dial and found us at

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frequency whatever whatever whatever, and heard us talking during the break.
We were talking about something going on with a play
or something about I forget how you could do that,
make that call or whatever. But he goes, you don't
know who's out there listening? What? And son of a
gun if he wasn't right? Yeah, so that was even
we thought we were off the air. Technically we were yeah, technically.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Yeah, yeah, but you were on that air, but you
were on someone's air, apparently, the Nova Scotian air.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
He found us on a hand. He was a Ham
radio operator and he found us just by scanning the
dial at frequency thirty three hundred and seventy four point
nine two megahertz or whatever it is or jigawats or whatever.
What the heck's a jigawat? Oh my god. Yeah. So
but so that stuff's out there, that's that stuff goes

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up into the as I said, the cyberspace. It's not
like it's unavailable to pirate. It can be done.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
It can be done, and it's done all the time, and.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
The man the Big twelve is trying to make sure
that it's not a problem. Three forty six is the time.
It's the press box Fox Sports nine eighty w O
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Speaker 1 (39:29):
Get on the press box called Marty now at nine
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Speaker 2 (39:42):
Three point fifty. As we continue along here on this
Wednesday afternoon, it is the press box Fox Sports nine
eighty w a yah Marty banished, There can be alongside
as we continue right up until five o'clock on the
program today. Joe Burrow held his weekly media session in
Cincinnati earlier today, and usually he doesn't go with this
deep or this emphatic about what he feels a game

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coming up is, but he says this one is a
must win game, and he's right on the money. Where
three and five you go to three and six and
you basically have to win out, well, you basically pretty
much have to do that now and again, as you know,
I'm a Bengals fan, but this team's not capable winning
seven of its last nine. It just isn't capable of

(40:25):
doing it. And I hope I'm wrong, but there's nothing
that I've seen in the first eight games other than
burrows play that tells me this team's capable of winning
seven of its last nine. I haven't seen it. It's
not capable of doing it. It's not capable doing it. It
makes too many mistakes in key situations, and plus you
have Zach Taylor pushing the buttons. Those are your reasons

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why you're not capable of winning seven of your last nine.
So interesting.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
So I know that you're sometimes critical of Zach Taylor,
but I mean, do you think he just needs to
give up play calling?

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yes? Yes, I've never been in favor of him calling
plays never, even in the Super Bowl year he did
things then where you went, what in the heck? That's
been his he constantly? How many times do you have
to have a head coach step to a microphone after
a game and say that play calls all on me

(41:24):
before you go, hey, you need to you need to
hand play calling over the phone because it happens just
about every single game. Yesh. So, as I've said before,
I think it's pretty obvious, at least to this point,
he has won over the locker room. They like him.

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I think from what I've been told, Joe Burrow likes him.
Which is that enough? Though? I mean, well, that's why
I'm going with this, That's where I'm going with this.
But you get to a point where, if I mean,
our Chase is already kind of taken it to started
to point it in that direction by saying after the
game on Sunday, hey, I wish we had called a
different play then too. Yeah. Now, when you when you're

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when your key guys start stepping forward and saying those things,
then I think you have to kind of look at it,
don't you. But the problem is, I don't think there's
anybody in the Cincinnati organization above Zach Taylor the understands that. Yeah,
And that's part of the problem too.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
I Mean, what we're seeing in the NFL right now
is the very best teams are making moves. Teams with
aspirations to win are making changes. I mean even the
Jets in the Browns and not winning teams necessarily, but
they're seeing things they don't like and they're making changes.
Some of those changes seem drastic.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
But you know, Kevin.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Stefanski was like, I'm not gonna call the plays anymore.
I'm going to focus on managing the game, managing the.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Guys mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
And that's they found success with that.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Yes, I'm not going to sit here and tell you
that the moment Zach Taylor does that, which he probably
never will. But I'm not saying that the moment he
does that, every problem is solved because it won't be
because you still your interior offensive line is becoming a
big issue right now. Left guard, center, right guard are
issues right now because you cannot generate a run game,
and that's part of the problem. Those three guys in

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the middle can't give you room to run the football.
So that's an issue right now. But I think it
would help in the aspect of, as you just said,
managing the game and worrying about other things such as
a challenge. Yeah, yeah, all those things that a head
coach where their focus should squarely be. Those are things

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and for a guy who's a first time head coach also,
that's the other part of this as well too. Maybe
if he's the head coach for three seasons and then
kind of gets his feet wet and goes, hey, you know,
maybe I should be calling the plays now. Okay, well,
then give it a chance. But to jump into that
right away as a first time head coach and have

(44:06):
not gotten any better at it, that's a problem. It's
a problem. I just as I said, I could be
what I was sent wrong on that, but it's to me,
it just seems like that would be that would be
something that would help. It might give a little bit
of a I mean, I certainly brought a breath of
fresh Air to Cleveland on Sunday. Yeah, they have. And

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that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
They made a lot of changes though.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
I mean, well you had well you were one in six, Yeah, exactly,
and you had I mean, you can't go, oh, okay,
everything's fine, we're one and six, everything's great, we're gonna win.
We're gonna win nine of our last ten. We're gonna
be fine.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
Don't worry, no, exactly. I mean that's why it's so
wild that the Bengals are just sitting tight. And and
then you've got Zach Taylor out here saying, you know,
I've got great communication with the front office. Well, what
are they telling you? Are they telling you we're good?
Are you saying that? I do agree that it's a weird.
It's a weird dynamic happening there.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
It is. It is great community, Yeah, go ahead, Well.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
Just because you need to continue to evolve if you're
going to be successful in this league, right, and.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
If your great communication is you calling and saying, hey,
don't worry, we're okay, and they don't respond, well that's
not great communication. That's one way communicating. Yeah, that doesn't
sound good at all. A couple of fan polls up
for you today. We're as we got in a discussion,
how should fans who interfere with the game like last
not words to be penalized. And again, we always appreciate

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the news. She always comes in with some very good points,
and we always enjoy our conversations when he checks in.
But again, I'm gonna have to disagree with you on one,
he responds, malice in the palace. Players go into the
stands and fight fans where they able to play basketball. Again,
of course they did. Lifetime bands are not needed. Well, now,
hang on one second about that. How did that start?
The malice in the palace? That started? Yes, players on

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the floor got into an altercation, but what took it
to another level was somebody in the stands throwing something
onto the floor and hitting a player with it. That's
when it went to the next level. If it if
that happen again, I'm not gonna sit here and tell
you that it would not have happened regardless, but that's

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what escalated it. And then what took it entirely to
the next level with a metal world peace the former
run our test is when that one fan, Bozo came
onto the floor and tried to square up with our test.
Are you are you kidding me? That's a that's you
came on, a guy came onto the floor, a fan
came on the floor. No, no, you can't have that.

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You just can't have.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
It, and you get banned for way less. In the NBA, honestly,
they'll kick you out for any reason. A player could
look at you and be like get him out of here,
and you're gone.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
You're just but you have and basketball players are even
more in the open than baseball and football players. There's
no I'm saying it's any Yeah, there's no there's nowhere
to hide. Baseball players could run to the dugout. How
many times have we seen games end where at a
basketball game where I mean the court stampede, that's you know,

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that's an entirely another topic. But how many times have
you seen players trying to run off the floor and
having the forearm and steff arm fans out of the
way just so they can get off the floor. So
basketball is a little different, anblysts And I understand your
point nudge about where they able to play basketball again,
well yeah they were, But if you talk to Germaine
O'Neil about that, his career was never the same after that. Yeah,

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I mean never the same.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
All of those guys actually definitely got a stigma.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Right, there's a great Yeah, there's a there's a great
documentary on Netflix. I'd encourage you to watch it. You'll
see that. Yeah, the players were wrong for going into
the stands, There's no question about that. But I don't
know if they go into the stands escalate it exactly.
The fans took it to an entirely unnecessary level. So

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but it's an interesting conversation. There's no question about that.
And also the NWDS is completely right because he says,
tell Pete Rose that about a lifetime ban.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Yeah, I don't know it's lifetime ban, but definitely consequences.
I mean, like I said, i'd give them a year.
Like you guys, if we make it back to the playoffs,
you can come back. But nah, this you can't. We
can't have this.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
I would be okay either way. Quite frankly, I just
I just don't think you can let that be something
where other fans go, well, if they got away with it,
why can't I You can't have that. You're just opening
a door that you don't want to open. All right,
three fifty nine as a time. Next hour we'll have
more of this very program of the press Box right here.

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this anniversary of the WKRP Turkey Drop episodes. It's one
of the classic moments in sitcom history. It's the press
Box Fox Sports nine to eighty w O the.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Name Welcome to the press Box with Marty Banister, the

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Speaker 2 (49:47):
To get that offensive game, we all know he can
do that, but to add the defense to it, I mean,
just confuse phenomenon Cavalier's head coach Kenny Atkinson talking about
Darius Garland big night on Monday at Madison Square Garden
in New York City where the Cavaliers rolled past the
New York Knicks. Welcome back to the press Box, Fox
Sports nine eighty w O. You have Barty banners or

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we are so very glad you're with us here on
this Wednesday afternoon, thanks Thanksgiving Halloween Eve as we get
ready for that tomorrow. Do you do you hand out candy? Kelly?
Do you hand out There's.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Really a lot of trigger treats anymore. When I first
moved here, they're way more. But I mean the trunk
the rise in trunk.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Or treats is uh, trunk or tats.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Yeah, So now people meet at a public place.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
One of.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
I know one happened at McAfee Heating and Air. That
one's pretty notable. They bring out really cool cars and yeah,
people the kids just walk to everyone's car and get
candy instead.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Of I've never heard of a trunk or treat.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
That's yeah, that's that's what happens now you don't have
very little kids. I think it is also part of why.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Well, I mean, I've got my grandson's five, but I
don't think. I don't think anybody whose neighborhoods ever trunk
or treated.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Really, that's all the rage that's I'm telling me. Yeah,
I can't stand it, honestly, because I remember part of
the fun of trigger treating was peeking into people's homes
and just being like, you know, like people live so different.
You know, it was always so interesting to me because

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I grew up you know, one way, and I remember
when I would go trigger treating, I would see other
people like, for example, there there were some houses where
there would be like a bunch of shoes right by
the door, and I'd be like, why are all the shoes?
Like what are you guys doing in there? And then
I learned like some people don't wear their shoes in
their house, and.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you could learn a lot of
things about that. Yeah, it's funny because the years that
when my children were my older children were growing up,
we lived in Springfield, and our neighborhood where we lived
at then, I mean that was the rage. I mean
everybody could wait for Halloween. It was a big, big

(52:24):
deal and the lights would go on. I mean you
would be ready to go at It was usually like
six to eight or five to seven. A couple of
times when the calendar turned at a different at different pace.
I recall a couple of times it was on a
Saturday afternoon at like five to seven or two to
four or something like that. Now, the other interesting part

(52:46):
about it, too, is is the weather. Now it looks
like tomorrow there's a chance of some showers, maybe even
some thunderstorm. It's going to be in the seventies, but
it's going to be in the seventies. Now, there have
been years where I think last year was it was
frigid last year for the kids to go out. And
that also brings up the question too, what's the cutoff age?

(53:07):
When did you stop going out and collecting candy. I
think I was probably a twelve or three thirteen. I
think there's no constitutional amendment that says you can't collect
candy after a certain age, but it was still it's
still because you will occasionally see somebody who looks like
they're eighteen or nineteen coming up to your door and like,

(53:29):
come on.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
Now, as long as you're wearing a costume, you get candy.
I don't play the game, where like if you're just
a teenager and you show them at my door, you're
You're like, you have to play the game. So and
also I've definitely run into some some older individuals with
maybe developmental disabilities and things like that.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
That's fine, yeah, and so I try to be a
little more to make an exception.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
You make it, yes, absolutely, but yeah, you're wearing a
I don't care. And honestly, I don't care what kind
of develop mental disabies or whatever you're wearing. A costume. Okay,
the costume is non negotiable. And and that I think
that is that's the trade for the candy. You show
up at my door in a costume, I give you candy.

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That's the trade, right, That's see.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
I I could never find what I thought was the
great costume, because there was always somebody in our neighborhood
who growing up, had what was just a great.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
The best costume.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Yeah, I could never ever do that. And I don't
know why what it was if it was just I
could just never go down that that that that lane.
I could just never get what I thought was the
cool costume.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
If that's the Mine's the word was economical about costumes.
And uh, probably my favorite, most memorable, you know, kind
of broke costume is what I call it. Was when
she made me and my cousin a pair of dice,
which literally that's pretty good, literally just cardboard boxes. She

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cut out some holes for our head and our feet
and and just colored you know, literally colored a colored
colored us in and put some circles on there, and
that was it. And I was like, great pictures. When
I look back at the pictures, I'm like, great idea.
But she was like that was that whole costume. Both
of your costumes were thirty seven cents.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
And you'd always get the mask with that little thin
rubber band that would and you had trouble breathing in
the mask, and the sweat would build up inside the
mask and you'd always end uputting on the top of
your head and the rubber band would snap almost immediately.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Do not want you breathing in those miss No.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
No. One year my son Corey, and I hope he's
not listening because he'll he'll get really mad at me
if I relate to the story. But I'm going, I'm going,
I'm going to anyway. I'm dead, so I can do that.
I think he was three or four and we put
we we made him up to be Superman, but we

(56:04):
did it a little different way. We had him as
Clark Kent. We had him with a he had a
hat on. He had a card on top of the
hat I wrote out I put press on it. He
had the black rimmed glasses, but his his shirt was
opened enough because he had a pair of Superman. Yeah,
I'll just say it. Bumping in a phone call heard

(56:25):
him out her text. I know, but he had that
those Superman. But John was the Superman constantly, the big
as right in the middle. So we left that open
so you can see like he was Clark Kent trying.
We went to one house. He goes up and knox
ender door. I'm standing next to him, and the woman
opens the door shut and she goes, oh, how nice
a little reporter. Oh God, and he, I mean, he

(56:46):
just took a step back and he like, in this
voice that I had for a four year old, I'm
not a reporter, I'm Superman. Yeah, I mean that, but
that was Yeah, didn't quite get it.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
She ruined everything.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Now there been people too, and yeah, she didn't go
for very well at all about that. And it still
goes by her house Pearls epitaphs. But now there were
people in in one of our neighborhoods. I'm trying to

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think which whether it was. I think it was in Springfield.
One year they gave out cans a pop. Oh, those
little small sixteen or twelve miles, those little cans. I
love that.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
Yeah, but really, I mean not if I have children,
and yeah exactly. But if I'm a grown up person,
I'll be like, yes, could I have one?

Speaker 2 (57:40):
People, But see, here's the thing people gave out, can't
those little cans of pop Most of them ended up
in the middle of the street. Oh yeah, So I
mean you've always got those those those those idiots out
there who do something to the candy or whatever it is.
And please make sure you go out either tonight or tomorrow,
make sure you're having your parents or you make sure

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you check the kids candy that they bring in, because
there's because those nimrods are out there that think it's funny.
So just you have to be safe, which is the
sad thing about it. I never got anything like that.
I would always check a funny of mine. Once got
a razor blade in an apple really yeah yeah, and
we knew which house it was from too, And they

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didn't survive at the night, I mean what they did.
But you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Yeah, absolutely, did you ever like tpe anyone's house or anything?

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Yeah? Oh gosh, yes, oh yeah. The sight of Columbus
I grew up in. That was just that a passage.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
I did it one time. I did it one time,
and it just so happened that at that time, like
as we are throwing these things like over the trees,
we heard a siren. It turned out to be an
ambulance coming nowhere near us. But in our minds we're like,
we're bust it. And I remember just I mean running

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for blocks and blocks and blocks.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
And after that, I was like, see, this is why
crime doesn't pay. And that was it. That was my
one and done. But I was I was like, we
escaped the police and they're like, Kelly, it was an
ambulance and they were going the other direction. And I
was like, you cannot tell me that the police were
not after me, So.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
No, I have to I full mia. I did that
a couple of times. In fact, where in the area
where I grew up in on the east side of Columbus. Yeah,
did that a couple of times? Had to do it? Yeah. Yeah.
Did you go to Halloween parties? Did you do that? Oh?

Speaker 3 (59:38):
Yeah, yeah. I loved the Halloween party. I loved all
the little snacks, like the you know when they cut
up the little cookie fingers and make them look like,
you know, human fingers and they put cashew nails on
them and things. I loved all that stuff I always thought,
you know, and they make the sausages like intestines, and

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I was like, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Now, the one thing that I've that I was never
and still am not big on are horror slasher movies,
and they always certainly come back this time of year.
This is their te Yeah, and more power if you
love those mon But I could just never I just
have never understood the draw to those I just it
has never ever been something. I've watched a few of them,

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and I'm like, what, what is the purpose of this?
This is just silly.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
When I was younger, my uncle was obsessed with horror.
I mean, anything Stephen King did put out wrote, he
was invested, and he would let me and my cousins
because he's one of my youngest uncles. He would let
me and my cousins watch horror films when we were
growing up. So I saw it when I was way
too young. I saw a pet cemetery when I was

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way too young, and so I definitely got a little
bit desensitized to that stuff until I don't know, maybe
like in my older age, these movies are so much
scared to me now than they were when I was
a kid.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
I no, they're not scary. They're not. No, they're they're stupid.
They're stupid, scary, they're stupid. No, you get scared by
these movies, then you I'm sorry, they're scary. There's no
way any of this garbage is real. There's no way. Well,
that's the point.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
You have to suspend disbelief.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Are those stupid zombie shows like Walking Dead? Come on?

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
Walking Dead was a very good show. Walking Dead was
more about what happens to the people who end up
in a you know, post Olympic.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
That's what we have to be afraid of, right.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
The thing about Walking Dead was it's not the zombies
that are the scariest thing, it's the other living people,
and that those the zombies were like what made the
world post apocalyptic. But that was not the crux of
that show at all.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Movies think they're silly, it's a good one.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
The Walking Dead is a it's a lot of good stories.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
A good no, no that scares you. Jaws was a
good movie that scared you. I mean, I know, and
I know there was some there was obviously some blood
in that, but I mean, but it's different than some
guy comes to your house with a big knife and
wears a hockey mask and keeps coming back here. Come on.
I mean, scream was good. Scream was good. Nor stupid,

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Kelly stupid. Scream was good. Scream was good. Final Destination.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
I mean, there are some horror films, thrillers that definitely
do the job.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
You're scared by those. You need to get out more.
Four sixteen is the time. It's the press box, Fox
Sports nine eighty.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Get on the press box called Marty Now at nine
to three, seven by three, one six, one seven zero
the press box on Fox Sports nine eighty w.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
O n E. And back with you here on this Wednesday.
It's the press box, Fox Sports nine eighty WNA. I
got a text from my son a couple of minutes
ago actually telling that story on the air. Dad, I
really appreciate that. Well, yeah, that sounds I mean, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Well if it if it's any consolation. I'm mad at
the lady, Okay, I'm mad at Oh yeah, exactly, I'm
mad at that lady.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Yeah. And he was too, he was not happy with that.
Oh goodness. The Bengals have released their injury report from
practice today and part of the Orlando Brown Junior notification
included fibula as part of the reason for not practicing today.
That's not good news. That's not good at all. So

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my guess is he's probably out for Max Crosby and
the Raiders on Sunday, which means Cody Ford has to
try and block Max Crosby.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Okay, wow, man, that's gonna be good. It's gonna be
so good.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
No, no, no, it's not on the Brown side of things.
That Darius Smith missed practice today with an illness, according
to the team. So that's about the major news come
either there. Jameis Winston named the AFC Player of the
Offensive Player of the Week. By the way, as well,
he probably should have for his day on Sunday in
the win over the Baltimore Ravens, So congratulations there, so

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to Jamis Winston. Connor McDavid of the Edmonton Oilers out
for at least three three to four weeks with a
lower ankle injury suffered that Monday night in a game
in Columbus against the Blue Jackets. As I said, my
son and I we were there when he was still
speaking to me. We were there. Yeah, had time. Then

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he went down like thirty seven seconds into the game,
got his foot twisted up in the stick of Zach
Rownski and only played thirty seven seconds and that's why
his ankle no go so after that. So Browns also
have announced today that linebacker Jeremiah Ouzu Cormora will not

(01:05:33):
play Sunday against the Chargers. He had that scary neck
injury against the Ravens last week and will not play
this coming Sunday against the Chargers. So that's a little
bit of a blow to the Browns defense. But the
positive is is that he's up and back and is functioning,
and it sounds at some point he will be able

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to return. Denzel Ward suffered his sixth concussion of his
NFL career Sunday in the game against the Ravens. He
did not practice today and is being listed as day
to day. There was a story about the Michigan player,
the quarterback, who called it a career after what was
it his sixth concussion or fifth concussion, and I think

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he was in his sixth year of playing college football.
I don't blame players at all for this. I mean, obviously,
the one that comes to mind right away is to
a tungua aloa and the issues he's dealt with concussion wise,
and as we've referenced before, as violent as this game is,

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you wonder how much longer some of these players. I mean,
it's a different mindset it is for these NFL players. Obviously,
the money that they're making factors into it. The will
to win, the will to be a competitor, that's all there.
But boy, at some point, don't you have to kind

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of start thinking longer than age thirty? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
I mean he has two young kids.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
I just think that it ends a war you're referring to, Uh, well.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
No tua to but yeah, I mean Denzel Ward is
a young man. I don't know if he has children,
but I think that's that has to be a factor.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Oh sure, sure it does, because you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
Want to be there for your kids, not just when
they're born, when they hit eighteen and twenty five and
are you know, you want to be able to walk
them down the aisle and all that jazz, like you
got to stick around for that. And I just I
hate seeing when these players get a little flip in
about it and a little near sighted.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
I don't know that the tongue of Alloa one is
the one to me that just, I mean, how many
more times it's.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
Not fun to watch him play at this?

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Oh it's not. And that's what is the first thing
that goes through your mind when he tucks the football
on his hip starts running downfield.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Hurt him, don't hurt him.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Don't hurt him. Exactly exactly slid.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
The Miami the Miami fans when to a slid the
first time erupted, he got four or five yards erupted,
as if he had just ran down the field and
it was a pick six or something. That's how scary
it is watching him play well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
And the difference in the in the position Denzel Award,
the position he plays is one where contact is imminent
almost every play and not not not that on Tua
it's not. But on every play the ball is thrown
a Denzel Ward's vicinity. You know something could happen and
Tua after he throws the pass, well, then according to

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the rules, he's not supposed to be touched. We know
that does happen sometimes, but it's it's the level of
contact is entirely different, and I just I you don't
want anything to happen to any of these guys because
we all enjoyed the game so much, and we all
enjoy watching them play, regardless of the team they play for.
As I've said before, for example, I wanted Nick Chubb

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back on the field just as soon as possible because
he's great to watch. You love to watch him run
the football and the way he plays the game and
the passion he plays the game with. And I mean
all these other guys that are injured, you feel the
same way about him. You want them back on the
field because that's what they do for a living. They
entertain us, and that's one of the reasons why the
National Football League is what the National Football League is.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
Yeah, And I think there is an element. It's it's
interesting if you think about, like if you like acrobatics
or cerk do sole or something, if those guys were
getting hurt every time or regularly in circ do sole,
I think it would be less exciting to watch. If
you knew then like this guy's gonna fall and the
net's not gonna work, it would be it would be

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a different game. And I think that we're seeing players
get hurt at this almost I wouldn't even say historic rate,
but at this rate that we're having conversations about it
in the media that I think that like we're we're
very near a shift in like maybe everyone's gonna have
to wear guardian caps or I mean, we're already seeing

(01:10:13):
the rules change to quote unquote be safer. So I
just think we're so close to the NFL just stepping
in and making rules to protect the players if they're
not willing to do it themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Cameron Wolfe of the NFL Network is covering the Dolphins
and Tua has spoke today to the media and he
was asked Tugnavaloa was if there are any thoughts that
arise about past injuries versus the Bills, and this is
Toola's response, quote, Nah, I'm a football player. If you
have any of those thoughts, I think that's when it's
time to call it. Man. Hmm, okay, I can't speak

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to that because never having played that game at that level,
that's a dif from mindset. You you just have to
you you can't. I mean, you talk to anybody who's
who's played who's played that game. You can't play it scared.
If you play it scared, then you're going to get
hurt because that's just the nature of the the nature

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of the game. You have to throw all of that away.
But when you're on your sixth concussion, how how easy
is it to just throw that part of it out?
That part of it I don't get. I just I
think it's like anything else in life. You you I mean,

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and again not that injuries are part of but if
you're on if you're say, for example, doing what Kelly
and I do, if you go on the air and
you're scared when you go on the air, you can't
do the job. You just can't. People will know. And
if you're playing football or playing any sport that involves
the amount of contact that football does and you're playing

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it scared, people will see it. People will notice it
right way.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
It's absolutely I mean, sometimes you and beyond like getting hurt.
Sometimes you'll see in a game when a team has
a lead and they start playing to not lose instead
of playing to win. It's a it's something you can
just see. It's hard to maybe explain, but when you
see it, you'll know it. And I think that is

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that's kind of the fear element that Marty's talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Well, that that part of it too, that they're not
playing to win mentality. That's I always I've always found
that interesting because I show me. I mean, it's hard
to me to look at a team and go, well,
they're not playing to win. Well, I'm not saying everybody's
playing to win.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
They're hoping to win, but I think I think about
it like this. If throughout three quarters of the game,
you're flinging the ball all over, you're you're trusting your quarterback,
for example, to put the ball down the field, and
then in the fourth quarter, because you have a lead,
you take your foot off the gas. That's a lot
of the ways people describe it. I think that we

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see that happen in teams that end up losing. I
can speak very very much for the commanders, who I've
seen do this. Different regimes have done this throughout the years.
And it's not just it's not just the commanders, but
and it's not just football, but you will see a
shift in the way the game is played because they're

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trying to hold on to a lead instead of increase it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Sure, and I get that, but that's not playing to lose.
Though playing to lose will be handing the other team to.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Football, but they're not playing to lose. They're playing to
not lose instead of playing to win. Like the focus.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
Every game you're playing, every game, you're playing not to lose.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Every game, every game you're playing like you should be
playing to win. Like your focus has to be on
the winning, not the not losing. It's it's really about
where your mindset is and how you show up.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
That's interesting. I'm I'm running this, I'm running this through
my head right now. I'm trying to I'm trying to
think about because I think if if you if your
team has a twenty five point lead in the fourth
quarter and there's seven minutes left, and you've been moving
up and down the field, throwing the ball, just dismantling
your opponent, yep. If at that point you get the

(01:14:25):
ball back and then you start running the football, that's
not playing. That's not playing. Well here, Okay, you're still
playing to win. You just are being careful and not
wanting to turn the ball over. That's you're still playing
to win the game. Because if you if you run
a six minute drive to wrap up the game, that's
playing to win.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
Sure, But that's what I'm saying, is there we'll see
instances where you run the ball, you get one yard,
you run the ball, you get another yard that third
down if you run the ball again, not even really trying,
like at that point you're like, we're gonna let the
defense do it. I feel like that's a very slippery
slope into how you lose a game.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
Well yeah, but that's not playing to lose the game.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
It's playing to it's playing to not lose the game
instead of trying to to do what has been working
and try to win the game. You know what will
ensure a victory more than the other team not scoring points?
You scoring seven more?

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
M So what I'm okay? Okay, Yeah. The Bengals game
with the Ravens I think is a prime example kind
of where you're at with this. Yes, absolutely, because when Cincinnati,
I mean, and the difference there was the game was
tied at that point the game, so you knew at
that point if you gave up the ball you could lose.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Okay, but that's not playing not to lose.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
I don't I I agree with that. I mean, I
think that because the game was tied and you're not like,
at that point you need to score still to win.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
Yeah, you took your off the pedal of being aggressive
at that poinoint, and that again, I mean I could
see where fans would construe that as playing not to lose. Yeah,
I understand that part of it. But I don't think
the coaching staff is saying, well, okay, here's where we're
at right now, let's let's play. Let's not let's not
play to lose this game. Let's so I don't think

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they're saying it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
I just say it's a mentality, and I think about
it like sometimes you you'll hear players say like, go
out there, play loose, have fun. There there be comes
points in games where you start like squeezing your gluteous maximus.
If you will, like you tighten up. I know, I'm
just you. You tighten up in how.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
You're playing, and there's no question that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
Yeah, we witnessed it. We've witnessed that. And I think
when you start making decisions from that place, you are
playing prevent instead of trying to be aggressive in how
you end the It's okay if I've convinced you, I
don't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
You have because I don't because I can see both
sides of that argument. Though I really can now for example,
I've referenced this before. I know we got a break
coming up here, but I've referenced this before when Urban
Meyer was coaching at Ohio State, and when he was
coaching at Florida, and probably when he was coaching at Utah,
probably he was coaching at Bowling Green. If he had
you down fifty five nothing, he wanted you down seventy

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five nothing. He was not taking his foot off the
pedal at all. He didn't care how you felt. That
wasn't his approach. Now. Jim Trestle, on the other hand,
if he had you down thirty five nothing, he was
perfectly happy with that. Was that playing to lose? No,
I don't. I don't think so. I mean I think
because I was, I wasn't playing not to lose. It wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
But Jim Trestl knows like those games that that happened.
He knew this team wasn't scoring thirty six points the
other team he was playing. And I think that the
idea of that is is when the competition is there.
And I I mean like if if if Jim Trestle
was going up against I don't know, uh, Nebraska, and

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you know when Nebraska was Nebraska. He's not like, if
he's up thirty five to I don't know, fourteen, he's
he wants more points than that, he wants to put
them away. But if he's playing Bowling Green and they're
up thirty five to fourteen, he's like, all right, it's fine.
I think he understands the difference in in the level

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of play. We're talking about the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Here everybody can be but there's still but see, well
in the NFL, it's it's a different Yeah, it's a
different mindset because if you get somebody down thirty five
to nothing in the NFL, you still need you need
those other thirty exactly, you need to keep scoring. Yeah,
you need the other thirty five points. In college football, again,
as I said with for example, Erbert Meyer, it didn't matter.

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But but see, there were times where they were they
would play one year, I think they played Florida A
and M. I think it was at Ohio Stadium and
they're still throwing the football up sixty tell me, you
tell me. And that's not that's not running it up.
That's just that mentality of we can't shut this down.

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We gotta keep going, we gotta this is who we are.
This is the mindset, this is the culture we want
to pass on to everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
If it's a spectrum Urban Myers definitely on the most
extreme side of play to win at all costs. I'm
not saying that's where I land. I'm just saying that
I'm I definitely lean more towards be aggressive.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
Aggressive.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
Yeah exactly, I really wanted to do it, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:19:48):
But yeah, but don't try to not lose, try to win,
and I think that you'll find find better for yourself
at the end.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
I still I still think though. I don't think there's
not a coach in America that lines his team up
on Saturday and goes, hey, we're planning not to lose today.
I just don't. I just don't think there's one that
does that. Or but your your goal is to win.
You want to, you have to. Your goal is to
win the game. That's the goal, and no matter how
you have to do it, you have to do it

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that way. Absolutely So. Yeah, it's an interesting discussion. Four
thirty six of the time. As we roll along here,
we're gonna talk about big game coaching. When we come back.
It's the press box. Fox Sports nine eighty w get

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on the press box called Marty now at nine to
three seven by three to one, six one seven zero
the press box on Fox Sports nine eighty WN four forty.
As we roll along here on this Wednesday afternoon, it's
the press box, Fox Sports nine eighty WY. I'm Marty
benas the Cally Bees alongside. We have about twenty minutes
left in the program today. Told you a little bit

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earlier in the week that it was being reported that
former President Donald Trump was going to attend the Penn
State game against Ohio State onside or apparently now it's
not the case. The university has now been notified that
the president, the former president, will no longer be attending
the game that according to a Penn State spokesperson, he
was originally expected to attend the game between the Buckeyes

(01:21:40):
and Nitney Lions just three days before election Day. He
was already on campus this past weekend for a campaign
rally at the Bryce Jordan Center, where Penn State plays
their basketball games at and other events as well too.
So and as I said earlier, that that would add
an air of of chaos to what's already going to

(01:22:04):
be a chaotic day anyway, And well I should hope.
I think, well, yeah, I think that. Well. I mean,
that's a chance to be seen, And it does make
sense if you would, if that's where you want to
be on that day. I fully get it. But just

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the the level of as I said, chaos, the level
of everything else that that game already has, would just
go to another level if if he or the other
candidate were there, if Kamala Harris was going to that game,
it would be the same thing. It would just be
completely off the charts crazy. And it's close to that

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as it is now anyway, because of the impact of
the game and what how much is at stake for
both the teams, which leads me to the two head coaches. Now,
neither code falls into the category of being one that
can win a big game, at least according to the
fan bases on either side. Ryan Day has not beaten

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a top five opponents since September the third of twenty
twenty two. He's lost four straight games. James Franklin has
not beaten a top five opponents since October the twenty
second of twenty sixteen. He's lost ten straight games. Now, obviously,
these games define you and your program, and I think

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on the Penn State side of things, it has defined
James Franklin as being a guy who simply can't win
these games. He's lost. What is it you had? His
record is three and seventeen against top twenty five teams.
Is that? Is that? What it was you saw the
other day? Kel?

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
Yeah, three and seventeen.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
The only time they've beaten Ohio State was on a
black field goal. That if Ohio State had got a
first down, that's never a problem. That game's over and
he's oh to ten against Ohio State or whatever is
his mark is now. But he is very much in
that category of not being able to win a big game,
and you would have to think that that just gnaws

(01:24:10):
at him and it certainly gnaws at that fan base,
which I think is part of the reason we talked
about this the other day, why this rivalry just has
such a different feel of intensity to it than every
other one, with the possible exception of the game with Michigan,
and I think for Ohio State fans, I think there

(01:24:32):
is a certain level of anxiety going into Saturday on
the heels of the unimpressive performance against Nebraska, the loss
to Oregon that I think there are Ohio State fans
who are who in past years really wouldn't be sweating
this one out now are I think there's a level

(01:24:55):
of definite concern about what happens on Saturday, because that
also takes it to the next level, that puts you
at two losses and it knocks you out of the
Big Ten championship game. You're not going with two losses
because they would both be conference losses. That you have
remember that as much as it is to think about

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Oregon being a conference loss, it is now a conference loss.
It is now a conference loss, I think, and I
think it might have been the Newdeo who said this
the other day when we were doing a poll about
what happens to these teams. Chances that Ohio State is
very much a TV draw and there's no question about that,
absolutely no question about that. That keeps them in the conversation.

(01:25:44):
But there are so many other things that can still
happen down the line that if Ohio State loses this game,
and let's say again, I'm just doing what we do
on these shows, we throw these things out, what if
Penn State runs them off the field Saturday? I don't

(01:26:05):
think they will. I don't think that's going to happen.
If Drew Aller is not one hundred percent, that's not happening.

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
That's the thing is.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
But if Penn State pounds them by three touchdowns, that
would and my.

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
Thing is if they if Penn State does that without
a healthy Drew Allur, then right then the questions and
that raises Ohio.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
State question Absolutely, you hit it right on the head.
That raises Ohio State questions to a new level. Brandon,
it does. Maybe they're not as good as we thought they.

Speaker 3 (01:26:31):
Were one hundred and then everyone is looking sideways at Rinding.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
And man and and Kevin. On top of that, your
selection committee, which has its first release of its top
twelve next Tuesday night, looks at this game too and goes, hey,
wait a minute.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
Oh yeah, oh gosh, and that the game would be
fresh right before they put out their first.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
Oh my god. Absolutely. Now again, all that being said,
I don't think there's any way Penn State boat races
Ohio State on set.

Speaker 3 (01:27:02):
I don't defense is the issue with Ohio State right now,
and Penn State's offense is not the issue.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Well again, it is if Drew Aller is, then it
is an issue and it will be. Yeah, I think
this will be one of those twenty four to twenty one,
twenty seventeen somewhere in that general vicinity.

Speaker 3 (01:27:24):
Game feeling like feeling very one point ish for me.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
Yeah, it is, it is. But I mean if if
Ohio State loses this game, and if they are if
they lose it by a couple of scores and don't
look good in losing it by a couple of.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
Scores, Yeah, but even losing again to a top five
opponent by just another point, I think would also be
a blimish on Ryan Day and on what this team
is supposed to be yet and.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
A fan base Kelly that's already agutidow goes off the chart, agitated. Yeah,
so a lot riding on it. Press box, absolutely, absolutely
the press box Fox Sports nine eighty w O name.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
Get on the press box called Marty now at nine
to three seven by three, one, six, one seven zero
the press box on Fox Sports nine eighty WN.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Four point fifty one. As we roll along here with
you on this Wednesday afternoon, about ten minutes left in
the program, both our fan polls have gone let's see you.
They've both gone final. Today we asked you what happens
at Saturday at Penn State between the Buckeyes and the
Nitney Lions. Ohio State wins by double digits. No one
voted for that. I'm a little surprised at that. Buck Fans.

(01:29:00):
I don't know. See, as I said, I think there's
some there's some hesitation out there with this team.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
Feels like it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
Ohio State wins a close game, got fifty percent of
the vote, and that was what won, followed by Penn
State wins a close game. Penn State routes the black
Eyes eighteen percent. There were some people who voted for that. Wow. Yeah,
As I said, I think there's a level of a
level of unrest about this game with the Ohio State

(01:29:28):
fan base, who are known for their calm, demure demeanor
about games and how they feel about their the football team.
They're always so level headed when they think about Ohio
State football.

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
Most most football fans are level headed, clear minded, reasonable,
rational human people. Everyone knows that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
Have you ever been in one of those games?

Speaker 3 (01:29:49):
Kelly, Yeah, that's pretty insane actually all right.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
Also, we asked you today how should how should fans
who interfere with the game like last night in the
World Series be penalty. Fifty nine percent of you went
with lifetime bans, thirty six percent said just tossed from
the game, and four percent of you went with nothing
at all. They paid their money, they paid for the tickets.
Should be you should have a not free reign, but

(01:30:14):
you paid for the tickets, so you should be able
to stay. So thank you as always for everyone participating.
We always appreciate that we throw these out every day
because I think number one, it kind of gives you
an idea of just an unscientific take as to what
folks are thinking. And they're good conversation topics, I think
to get the responses that we get. The dudes always

(01:30:35):
checks in. We always appreciate that jump with Jehosa fact
checks in quite often. We appreciate that since the Sports
Minute we hear from whoever that is on a regular basis. Well,
we always appreciate that and we thank you for that.
As I said, I think they're conversation topics. The baseball
season could come to a conclusion tonight if the Dodgers
rally and win and beat the Yankees tonight, and it

(01:30:58):
would be their first World Series chatampionship in a full season.
They won the twenty twenty COVID Championship. So and I
think if you look at them, they are well positioned
to continue along number one monetarily because they're not afraid
to spend whatever it is you need to spend. Yeah,

(01:31:20):
it's interesting to win. And that's the difference in baseball
as opposed to just about every other sport.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
Now, there is no salary cap in baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
No, no, there's not, so you can spend till you're
green in the face. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
Well, the NBA tried to do that for a little while,
and then the Golden State Warriors happened, and then they said, okay,
we actually do have a hard cap because there was
the luxury tax essentially that teams could pay if they
were willing to pay over the salary cap.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
That's the thing that makes that has made the NFL
as popular as it is. Give a pair because everybody
has an opportunity. I'm not saying everybody is good enough,
but you have the opportunity if you do things correctly financially,
you can bring in you You have to do it,

(01:32:16):
as I said, you have to do it correctly and
spend the money the right way. You can bring in
the right people, you have a chance each and every
year to be competitive, to get back in the game.
And the way the schedule is done every year, if
you finish in last place, you're getting a last place schedule.
You finish in first place, you're getting a first place schedule.
So you have to you know that that's coming, and

(01:32:37):
you can you can prepare and play in your team
around that, so you have an idea. The NFL gets
that more than any I think more than any other league.
I agree, quite frankly. It also do.

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
It also really enforces the need to have really good
people all up and down your organization. You need your
talent evaluators to be good, you need your GM to
be you know, communicative.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
But that's the.

Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
Things we've seen teams. I mean, I think about the
Packers and their quarterback all the time because there's there
is no other organization that just hit it on then
hit the nail on the head, and then for three
decades now we just hadn't worried about who their quarterback was.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
They've had three quarterbacks, they've had three us, They've had
Brett Favre, they've had Aaron Rodgers. Now they have Jordan Love.

Speaker 3 (01:33:26):
Yeah, that's so impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
Cleveland's had one hundred and seven quarterbacks in twelve years
or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:33:32):
Yeah, I mean literally there's a Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
Was close to that too. I mean the Lengals were,
I mean Andy Dalton, they kind of fell into Andy
Dalton again, who's whos I've said before was just good enough,
just enough, just good enough to get you here, but
he couldn't get you there. Obviously, Joe Burrow can get
you here, and he can get you there. He's proven
that Cleveland has been unable to find that guy. I
don't think they have him now in Jameis Winston. And again,

(01:33:57):
as we said, that's going to be the interesting discussion
they're going to have to have one this season comes
to a conclusion, but that the opportunity is there though,
even with salary, with the salary cap in the NFL,
you know what you have available to spend, you know
how you can spend it. You can go out and
get these type of things done. I mean, Kelly talked
about smart people in the front office. I mean, how

(01:34:17):
good did Bill Belichick look with with Tom Brady? But
also every year they were able to find somebody to
plug into a certain spot. I mean, Corey Dillon comes
to mind. I mean, you can just go up and
down the list. They found certain guys who fit that mentality,
who would step in and suddenly became almost Pro Bowl
type players who were either on the fringe of their career,

(01:34:39):
who had wallowed in ineffectiveness for two or three seasons,
and boom they go to New England. What happens. They
used the right way that the town evaluators understood. And
when you have those people making those type of moves,
the right people in tech shram with the Dallas Cowboys
for years. He was the guy. Yeah, he and Gil

(01:35:02):
Brand they were the guys. They built a phenomenal franchise
in Pittsburgh. The Rooney's chuckles. Yeah, what I mean, they've
They've had They've had three coaches since nineteen, yes, sixty.

Speaker 3 (01:35:13):
Sometimes you just I mean, it's just the people in
the building matter so much, and we see that very viscerally.
I feel like in the NFL more than a lot
of these other.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
Leaders, no question. Yeah. Well, I mean in an NBA
for years, the Boston Celtics had Red hour back.

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
And Red knew how to run a basketball team. Let
me tell you, Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
Yeah, they knew exactly what they were doing, and he
knew how to navigate the system. I mean he drafted
Larry Bird the year before he came out. He used
with a number one pick. I know he's coming out
next year rafting, don't worry. So yeah, yeah, but the
NFL more than any other league. You know, if you're

(01:35:55):
even the Carolina Panthers, who are abysmal right now, but
you know, if you kne certain things right, next year,
you could get to seven or eight wins and sudden
they become competitive again. Yeah, it's that possible. So all right,
that'll do an interesting conversation. Say, we thank you for
being with us, thanks to Kelly b. As always, we're
back with you tomorrow from three to five on Halloween,
so get ready for that. We'll have a big show

(01:36:16):
for you tomorrow, as we always do. We'll squeeze in
some coaches kind of. We just got a bit of
a role today with some interesting topics. We had some
fun discussing them. We still have our comments with Brian
Day and James Franklin. All of that coming your way tomorrow.
World Series Game five tonight. There's college football as well,
and we're back with you tomorrow thanks to Kelly B.
Thanks to everyone for being with us today. It's the
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