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Speaker 1 (00:38):
Welcome to Psycho babbl dash me. I'm your host, Danielle
Minch along with meyor mar Week.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hi everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Before we start episode eight, I'd like to put out
what we would like to put out a disclaimer that
this episode may be triggering for some people and is
in no way meant to replace mental health treatment or therapy.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
So, Danielle, what's our topic today?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Our topic today is sex portion, which is becoming increasing
in yeah, all over the world globally. So, first of all,
what is sextortion? So it's a form of exploitation where
children are threatened or blackmailed. Usually the person threatens to
publicly share nude or sexual images if the child does
(01:16):
not provide additional sexual content, sexual activities online or sends money.
And where can this happen at? This is all online online? Right, Yeah,
so apps, messenger, platforms, gaming, A lot of things are
with the gaming because they're they're seeing an increase in
young male so the gaming aspect, this can happen on
(01:40):
anywhere Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram, even you're dating render So yeah,
so what these these these people are adult males who
pretend to be either females of the age of the
boys or the age of the girls. And they're really
(02:02):
good at grooming these kids. Yeah, they found their friends.
They pretend like they want a relationship with these kids
and then yeah, like they like love them, like they
want a relationship right now. They they just say all
the nice positive things about them, right And when I
was reading it said that they a lot of these
professional quote predators. What they do is they just like
(02:27):
spam all these different accounts to.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
See who basically bites. Yeah, and you can go.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
And generally the people that are going to bite is
the more vulnerable, you know, children who are well, I
don't want to say yeah, because they say it can
be anybody, any socioeconomic any race, any ethnicity. Just whenever
I say more vulnerable, maybe that they're you know what
I mean, we're not as popular, Yeah, not as popular,
(02:57):
or lonely or writer or have some sort of issue
who And they say, you know, most often these children,
like we say, believe they're communicating with someone their own
age who is interested in forming a relationship. And after
the criminals have like one picture or a video or something,
they either threaten to publish these I know a case
where they threaten the child's family if they don't want
(03:20):
either provide more or the money. They want money, Yeah,
they want money and gift cards and gift cards can't
be traced. So that's a big thing that they that
they want.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Right, And so you think, why don't they kill the children?
Tell someone? Will they? You know, most of.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
These kids feel shame or fear or confusion, and they're
just kind of caught in this vicious cycle that prevents
them from asking for help. Yeah, and then once they
they can get one picture and then they're going to
bombard them with message after message after message, and they'll
tear them down to I was reading where you know,
(03:58):
telling them even to kill themselves, yeah, you know, and
threatening them and then that's what happens. So when I
was googling this, and if you google it, all these
horrific stories just come up. But it's said that the
FBI reports an increase in financial extortion cases and this
(04:19):
increase in criminal activity has resulted in an increased number
of death by suicide. Yeah, that's and this subject is
it even says on the videos that I was watching
that it's hard to talk talk about, right, you know, right, well,
the kids are afraid because they're embarrassed.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yes, that they share these images.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, and lots of times these people threaten not only
the children but the children's families because today today's world,
like these kids they post and they tag and so
they know where they are. Like and these people are smart,
so they know you go to Joe Schmoe High School.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
And you live on Drury Lane. Yeah, them up and
man or whatever you see, and.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
They'll get friends. They'll become friends with their friends that
they think that they are right.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
They don't think that they know that everything about them.
Why kid's really scared.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
One mother had said, it's so important to talk to
your kids about, you know, being safe online, but also
said that another important thing is to talk to your
kids about what if you do send a picture.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
What can you do then?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Because like she was, her kids sent, you know, a picture,
and then he ended up killing himself. But she kind
of wished that she would have.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
She always said.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Safety online, safety online, but she never said, well what
if you send that picture?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
So well, that goes right into this thing that like
what can parents do to help these kids?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
So, like you said, first open communication, the kids need
to know that there is that this is a current
understanding risks sustained quiet. So talk to your kids about
the fact that there are people out there doing this
and explain that sharing of images is always has a
potential of becoming public. Nothing is the leader thing.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I want to live out there. It's out there forever.
And parents or caregivers.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
May want to look at their children's online settings, make
sure that the accounts are private so predators can't find them,
and instruct kids not to accept friend requests to people
they don't.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Don't know know, yeah, like you'll see these kids they have.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Two thousand followers on Instagram. I don't know, two thousand people,
I mean, you know what I mean. Yeah, So they
need to be select on what they're sharing online. Also,
be we're worried, weary of first time, like somebody comes
(06:49):
on to them, you know, Leary, Sorry, I don't know,
and then they say to block them and ignore them.
Be aware people are pretending to be anything online.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And there's this meme where this.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
This guy is talking to this I think it was
a girl on you know, on the internet, and he
was like saying that he was like this handsome guy
and he was like a five hundred brown guy with
acne with that like just sticks in my mind.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Right.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
And also they have found which was alarming to me
if I can find it somewhere that they said that
they have.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
According to the BBC in June twenty twenty fourth ninete, Yeah,
twenty twenty four six, they said extortion is the fastest
growing scam affecting teens globally. More than twenty twenty seven
suicides have been attributed to this alone in the US
and many of these presters have been found in Nigeria. Yeah,
and they said that two Nigerians were sentenced in the
(07:51):
suicide of a seventeen year old boy in Michigan. His
onlines extortion scheme resulted in the teenage boy's death by suicide.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
And those two Nigerian boys, they were twenty two and
twenty one. Yeah, so we were young. Yeah, they were
saying that they were and that's what these people were doing,
Like I was saying that they just cack all the
accounts to see who will bite. I guess they called catfishing,
I think, yeah, okay, yeah, and the criminals they're very skilled,
(08:22):
they're ruthless. They hone in on their techniques, so they
are grooming these papers, these kids they may it might
even take a while for them to ask for.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
A picture, you know, like how are you?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
And then I saw this story where there was a
nine year old girl. Yeah, I read that the FBI
said they have found cases involving children as young as.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Eight years old.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, they this girl. He offered her like these little
like plushies or something, and she would send out Yeah,
if she.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Would send a picture.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
That's what they were saying that they started, you know,
compliments or flattery pretending if they want to start a
romantic relationship, or they offer the kids something to value
for a picture, money, modeling cards, line online game credits
for Marlene or other gifts.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
And then.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, and I had talked about this on the suicide one.
I have a lady that I know that this happened
to her son, but the images weren't him. And that's
what we were talking about before, because they can I
wait ai the images and he was he said, the
(09:36):
one guy a gift card, but he was trying to
get other gift cards and like from Aldis And the
mom was like, what do you want a gift.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Card from Aldise for?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
You know? And then he ended up like fear was
in his face, and he ended up breaking down and
telling her now he was thirteen fourteen, Yeah, and they
went to the police. She went to the police, and
the police said that they've had five cases that week
of this and that miss of the people are broad
(10:07):
that's been great. Yeah. And the thing about the AI,
so even if your kid isn't sending images, if they're
just communicating with these people, then.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
They can threaten them. And then.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I can't even imagine just one statistic in this podcast
for you all.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So, the National.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Center for Missing Exploited Children said that financial extortion is up,
with as many as seventy nine percent of predators demanding
money rather than more images, and the number of financial
extortion reports more than doubled from twenty twenty two to
twenty twenty three, from ten thousand, seven hundred and thirty
one to twenty six thousand, seven hundred and eighteen. And
(10:49):
that's in the USA, I believe alone. And then they
said with the statistics too, there's probably like one hundred
thousand that aren't even reported because.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Kids don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah. I just think it's reiterate again, where you know,
we need to communicate to our children that you never
really know who you're communicating with online because it's just
they're just messages. There's no and anyone can post any picture.
And like I said, even if you don't send pictures,
they can create pictures and say that they're you.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
And how can you A kid doesn't know what to do? Yeah,
they don't.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
There aren't a lot of My information that I got
was from the FBI website.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
It's yeah, that's really what I got.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
A bug it to really good and there's a if
this has happened to you or your child, because it
can happen to adults too, but we're talking about the
children right now. But I the FBI number is one
eight hundred call FBI and then there's tips dot FBI
dot gov. You can go on to the internet. Yeah,
(11:53):
and if for parents or characters out there who want,
I mean, you can just google search sex stortion and
you will be appalled at the number of things that
pop up there. One of the stories I read so
many stories that was so heartbreaking. But they arrested a
forty year old guy. He was a youth minister and
he worked with the teens so he could get their
(12:14):
lingo and see how they talked and stuff and then
he you know, he did this sex stortion.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I mean, these are predators, are definitely predators, and sometimes
the sex stortion is the final. The financial one is
whenever they ask for money, but sometimes they want more pictures,
you know, because they are predators. Well that's what I
was telling you before I knew. I was the case
of a girl and she.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Was probably I don't know, ten or twelve when this happened,
and it ended up being an adult male.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
She lived in West Virginia and he lived out west
in California, and he threatened her and her family. She
sent one picture and it just snowballed if you don't
keep sending pictures and published them, and I mean it
ended up like the the the I came to their house,
they took.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
All their ship. It was it was frightening. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
So I think the most important thing is you know
that we teach children how to protect themselves and that
they can sorry it's my dog, and that they can
always go to a trusted adult. Yeah definitely. Yeah, Okay,
we hope this information was helpful. We're here definitely to educate,
(13:26):
educate families children. I would definitely have your child listen
to this with you for everyone and the dangers online. Yeah,
parents and caregivers you know, be vigilant of what's going
on in your children's lives. Okay, you're not alone by everyone.
Take care, No, not.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
To lack.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Nothing, not nothing, nothing, noth
Welcome to Psycho babbl dash me. I'm your host, Danielle
Minch along with meyor mar Week.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hi everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Before we start episode eight, I'd like to put out
what we would like to put out a disclaimer that
this episode may be triggering for some people and is
in no way meant to replace mental health treatment or therapy.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
So, Danielle, what's our topic today?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Our topic today is sex portion, which is becoming increasing
in yeah, all over the world globally. So, first of all,
what is sextortion? So it's a form of exploitation where
children are threatened or blackmailed. Usually the person threatens to
publicly share nude or sexual images if the child does
(01:16):
not provide additional sexual content, sexual activities online or sends money.
And where can this happen at? This is all online online? Right, Yeah,
so apps, messenger, platforms, gaming, A lot of things are
with the gaming because they're they're seeing an increase in
young male so the gaming aspect, this can happen on
(01:40):
anywhere Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram, even you're dating render So yeah,
so what these these these people are adult males who
pretend to be either females of the age of the
boys or the age of the girls. And they're really
(02:02):
good at grooming these kids. Yeah, they found their friends.
They pretend like they want a relationship with these kids
and then yeah, like they like love them, like they
want a relationship right now. They they just say all
the nice positive things about them, right And when I
was reading it said that they a lot of these
professional quote predators. What they do is they just like
(02:27):
spam all these different accounts to.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
See who basically bites. Yeah, and you can go.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
And generally the people that are going to bite is
the more vulnerable, you know, children who are well, I
don't want to say yeah, because they say it can
be anybody, any socioeconomic any race, any ethnicity. Just whenever
I say more vulnerable, maybe that they're you know what
I mean, we're not as popular, Yeah, not as popular,
(02:57):
or lonely or writer or have some sort of issue
who And they say, you know, most often these children,
like we say, believe they're communicating with someone their own
age who is interested in forming a relationship. And after
the criminals have like one picture or a video or something,
they either threaten to publish these I know a case
where they threaten the child's family if they don't want
(03:20):
either provide more or the money. They want money, Yeah,
they want money and gift cards and gift cards can't
be traced. So that's a big thing that they that
they want.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Right, And so you think, why don't they kill the children?
Tell someone? Will they? You know, most of.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
These kids feel shame or fear or confusion, and they're
just kind of caught in this vicious cycle that prevents
them from asking for help. Yeah, and then once they
they can get one picture and then they're going to
bombard them with message after message after message, and they'll
tear them down to I was reading where you know,
(03:58):
telling them even to kill themselves, yeah, you know, and
threatening them and then that's what happens. So when I
was googling this, and if you google it, all these
horrific stories just come up. But it's said that the
FBI reports an increase in financial extortion cases and this
(04:19):
increase in criminal activity has resulted in an increased number
of death by suicide. Yeah, that's and this subject is
it even says on the videos that I was watching
that it's hard to talk talk about, right, you know, right, well,
the kids are afraid because they're embarrassed.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yes, that they share these images.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, and lots of times these people threaten not only
the children but the children's families because today today's world,
like these kids they post and they tag and so
they know where they are. Like and these people are smart,
so they know you go to Joe Schmoe High School.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
And you live on Drury Lane. Yeah, them up and
man or whatever you see, and.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
They'll get friends. They'll become friends with their friends that
they think that they are right.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
They don't think that they know that everything about them.
Why kid's really scared.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
One mother had said, it's so important to talk to
your kids about, you know, being safe online, but also
said that another important thing is to talk to your
kids about what if you do send a picture.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
What can you do then?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Because like she was, her kids sent, you know, a picture,
and then he ended up killing himself. But she kind
of wished that she would have.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
She always said.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Safety online, safety online, but she never said, well what
if you send that picture?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
So well, that goes right into this thing that like
what can parents do to help these kids?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
So, like you said, first open communication, the kids need
to know that there is that this is a current
understanding risks sustained quiet. So talk to your kids about
the fact that there are people out there doing this
and explain that sharing of images is always has a
potential of becoming public. Nothing is the leader thing.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I want to live out there. It's out there forever.
And parents or caregivers.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
May want to look at their children's online settings, make
sure that the accounts are private so predators can't find them,
and instruct kids not to accept friend requests to people
they don't.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Don't know know, yeah, like you'll see these kids they have.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Two thousand followers on Instagram. I don't know, two thousand people,
I mean, you know what I mean. Yeah, So they
need to be select on what they're sharing online. Also,
be we're worried, weary of first time, like somebody comes
(06:49):
on to them, you know, Leary, Sorry, I don't know,
and then they say to block them and ignore them.
Be aware people are pretending to be anything online.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And there's this meme where this.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
This guy is talking to this I think it was
a girl on you know, on the internet, and he
was like saying that he was like this handsome guy
and he was like a five hundred brown guy with
acne with that like just sticks in my mind.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Right.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
And also they have found which was alarming to me
if I can find it somewhere that they said that
they have.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
According to the BBC in June twenty twenty fourth ninete, Yeah,
twenty twenty four six, they said extortion is the fastest
growing scam affecting teens globally. More than twenty twenty seven
suicides have been attributed to this alone in the US
and many of these presters have been found in Nigeria. Yeah,
and they said that two Nigerians were sentenced in the
(07:51):
suicide of a seventeen year old boy in Michigan. His
onlines extortion scheme resulted in the teenage boy's death by suicide.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
And those two Nigerian boys, they were twenty two and
twenty one. Yeah, so we were young. Yeah, they were
saying that they were and that's what these people were doing,
Like I was saying that they just cack all the
accounts to see who will bite. I guess they called catfishing,
I think, yeah, okay, yeah, and the criminals they're very skilled,
(08:22):
they're ruthless. They hone in on their techniques, so they
are grooming these papers, these kids they may it might
even take a while for them to ask for.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
A picture, you know, like how are you?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
And then I saw this story where there was a
nine year old girl. Yeah, I read that the FBI
said they have found cases involving children as young as.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Eight years old.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, they this girl. He offered her like these little
like plushies or something, and she would send out Yeah,
if she.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Would send a picture.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
That's what they were saying that they started, you know,
compliments or flattery pretending if they want to start a
romantic relationship, or they offer the kids something to value
for a picture, money, modeling cards, line online game credits
for Marlene or other gifts.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
And then.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, and I had talked about this on the suicide one.
I have a lady that I know that this happened
to her son, but the images weren't him. And that's
what we were talking about before, because they can I
wait ai the images and he was he said, the
(09:36):
one guy a gift card, but he was trying to
get other gift cards and like from Aldis And the
mom was like, what do you want a gift.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Card from Aldise for?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
You know? And then he ended up like fear was
in his face, and he ended up breaking down and
telling her now he was thirteen fourteen, Yeah, and they
went to the police. She went to the police, and
the police said that they've had five cases that week
of this and that miss of the people are broad
(10:07):
that's been great. Yeah. And the thing about the AI,
so even if your kid isn't sending images, if they're
just communicating with these people, then.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
They can threaten them. And then.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I can't even imagine just one statistic in this podcast
for you all.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So, the National.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Center for Missing Exploited Children said that financial extortion is up,
with as many as seventy nine percent of predators demanding
money rather than more images, and the number of financial
extortion reports more than doubled from twenty twenty two to
twenty twenty three, from ten thousand, seven hundred and thirty
one to twenty six thousand, seven hundred and eighteen. And
(10:49):
that's in the USA, I believe alone. And then they
said with the statistics too, there's probably like one hundred
thousand that aren't even reported because.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Kids don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah. I just think it's reiterate again, where you know,
we need to communicate to our children that you never
really know who you're communicating with online because it's just
they're just messages. There's no and anyone can post any picture.
And like I said, even if you don't send pictures,
they can create pictures and say that they're you.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
And how can you A kid doesn't know what to do? Yeah,
they don't.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
There aren't a lot of My information that I got
was from the FBI website.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
It's yeah, that's really what I got.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
A bug it to really good and there's a if
this has happened to you or your child, because it
can happen to adults too, but we're talking about the
children right now. But I the FBI number is one
eight hundred call FBI and then there's tips dot FBI
dot gov. You can go on to the internet. Yeah,
(11:53):
and if for parents or characters out there who want,
I mean, you can just google search sex stortion and
you will be appalled at the number of things that
pop up there. One of the stories I read so
many stories that was so heartbreaking. But they arrested a
forty year old guy. He was a youth minister and
he worked with the teens so he could get their
(12:14):
lingo and see how they talked and stuff and then
he you know, he did this sex stortion.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I mean, these are predators, are definitely predators, and sometimes
the sex stortion is the final. The financial one is
whenever they ask for money, but sometimes they want more pictures,
you know, because they are predators. Well that's what I
was telling you before I knew. I was the case
of a girl and she.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Was probably I don't know, ten or twelve when this happened,
and it ended up being an adult male.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
She lived in West Virginia and he lived out west
in California, and he threatened her and her family. She
sent one picture and it just snowballed if you don't
keep sending pictures and published them, and I mean it
ended up like the the the I came to their house,
they took.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
All their ship. It was it was frightening. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
So I think the most important thing is you know
that we teach children how to protect themselves and that
they can sorry it's my dog, and that they can
always go to a trusted adult. Yeah definitely. Yeah, Okay,
we hope this information was helpful. We're here definitely to educate,
(13:26):
educate families children. I would definitely have your child listen
to this with you for everyone and the dangers online. Yeah,
parents and caregivers you know, be vigilant of what's going
on in your children's lives. Okay, you're not alone by everyone.
Take care, No, not.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
To lack.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Nothing, not nothing, nothing, noth
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