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November 26, 2024 • 19 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Welcome to Psycho Babbel dash Me. I'm your host, Danielle
Minch with Merri mar Week.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hi everybody, Hi to Mary and mart is gonna go
ahead and do the disclaimer for the episode today.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
So we want to let everyone know that this episode
may be triggering for some people and this is no
way supposed.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
To replace mental health treatment or therapy. So we're on
season two, episode three.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
This episode we're gonna go into sexual crafts men assault.
We're gonna define sexual assault, talk about consent, the impacts
on the victims, the victims family.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Don't forget about our ever loving statistic.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, we have some statistics to throw out there, some
treat men options and just dive into to the sexual
sexual assault. And we also are going to have some
local information if you know.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
Probably it will be like I'm sure like everything, yeah,
state state has different ones. Yeah, but they're like crisis
lines and stuff like that that you can you can
call and they always say that things are confidential, right, And.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Like researching this and I talked to some of my friends,
which is what I found really alarming is I couldn't
find one woman.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
That I know who didn't had it.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Either experienced or knew someone who had either been assaulted
or harassed in some form. Yeah, so, I mean it
happens a lot. And part of the problem with that,
I think we're an dressed later is the victim blaming
and people not reporting or even not knowing that they're
being harassed.

Speaker 6 (01:56):
Yes, because it.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Can be you know kind of and.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
We're talking at school, workplace.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Down walking down the street. I mean they define you know,
when men cat call, which I asked my daughters if
they knew what that meant, and they said yes.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
So I assume people know, you know, when they call,
you know, hey baby, that's.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
A form of sexual harassment.

Speaker 6 (02:14):
I mean, can you imagine being in.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
A city street and saying to some dude, you know, hey,
sexy man.

Speaker 6 (02:20):
Yeah, but they do.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
To women all the time, Yes, they do.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
So anyway, sexual harassment they define is any unwelcome verbal, physical,
nonverbal conduct of a sexual nature that creates an intimidating, hostile,
or offensive environment. So some examples of that or we're
just like what we just talked about, right, cat called
sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, rewards in exchange for

(02:44):
sexual favors, whistling at someone, making sexual comments about someone's body,
telling sexual inappropriate jokes, or having conversations of sexual topics.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, and it happens in all communities, all genders, it does.

Speaker 7 (03:00):
I mean I remember a place we worked at which
I will not name, where the bosses were always making
inappropriate comments and gestures to staff.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, but it can be prevented. I mean education out there,
you know, people breaking their silence because you've got to
think that you know, it's hard to come out, you
know what I mean and say it.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Yeah, and especially if the.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Person who's doing it is your superior, right because like
they say, you know, we'll get a new job.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Well yeah, not everyone can get a new job.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
So you have to you know, go above that person up.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
The chain of command.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
And sometimes the chain of command don't even work, you know.

Speaker 6 (03:50):
Yeah. Also too, I was.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Going to say that.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
I just lost my train of thoughts.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, no, whenever this is when when that's good. Whenever
people go or silence and don't report it, you've got
to think that that person is going to do it
to somebody else too, which is kind of scary, you know, right, yeah, yeah,
the perpetrator, you know.

Speaker 6 (04:20):
Yeah, Well, there's.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
A whole culture think of that about victim blaming, Yeah,
that's not so anyway. The Equal Opportunity, Equal Employment Opportunity cognition,
which I didn't even know exists, defines workplace sexual harassment
as any any unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors,
and or verbal or physical harassment of a sexual nature.

(04:45):
Say that, any sort of conduct that makes submission a
term of condition of employment.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Which is like what we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Your boss's condition that is used as a basis for
employment decisions, and conduct that unreasonably interferes with individuals at work.
And there is a number you can contact this EEO C,
as I said, the Equal Opportunity, Equal Employment Opportunity Commission,
and the number is one eight hundred eight one eight hundred.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Jesus Christ, I know, we're We're It's Sunday, one.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Eight hundred sixty six.

Speaker 6 (05:19):
Nine four thousand.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Repeat that again, one eight hundred sixty six nine four
zero zero zero.

Speaker 6 (05:26):
So if you are being abused at work or.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
For you're being sexually harassed, you can call them and
report it to them. And like we said, you need
to report this to the proper authorities. And also document
is very important.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
So if you can.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Document this or I mean, take someone talking to you
like this and then you have proof and you can
because it's a he says.

Speaker 6 (05:49):
She's yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah. It is.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
A real important thing is to define I think what
is consent. Consent must be freely given, in formed. A
person can change their mind at anytime.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Too, just because they might have said yes to something,
but then they say no.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
You have to listen to that.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
No.

Speaker 6 (06:10):
Consent is more than a.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Yes or a no.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Is a dialogue about desired needs, level of comfort with
the different sexual interactions, and if yeah, it is a no.
So that's funny that you say that, because when researching this,
I remembered that, I don't know if you remember, because
it was back in twenty fifteen, that Stanford swimmer, that

(06:37):
Rock Turner, so I kind of dug into that. So
what it happened was is the female was unconscious and
he was sexually assaulting her and two graduate students came
and pulled yeah and stopped it, and then they held
him until the police came. Well he got this is

(07:00):
what he got. He got six months jail time, six months.
He was out in three months. He was on probation.
But could you could you imagine and then the victim
I read her impact statement. It was seven and some words,
and this is kind of this is what she's quit

(07:20):
is saying, you took away my privacy, even my time, safety, intimacy, and.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
My voice until today.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
And then she she went on to talk about, you know,
the experience at the hospital and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
So even like you said, even if they're not able
to give consent, that.

Speaker 6 (07:44):
Means that's a no.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
So did you want to move into sexual assault now? Yeah, okay,
So that's that includes rape, wanted sexual touching, sexual contact
without consent, which we just talked about, and the National
Sexual Violence Resource Center says forms of sexual violence are
raper assault, sexual harassment, unwanted sexual contact and touching, sexual

(08:15):
exploitation and or trafficking, exposing ones genitals without consent, non
consensual sharing of sexual images. Words are actions of sexual
nature against the person's will or without consent.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
So it's always with like Danielle said, consent.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
And there is a National Sexual Assault Hotline and that
number is one eight hundred sixty five six four six
seven three. So one eight hundred sixty five six four
six seven three.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
So if something's happened to you and you don't know
who to call.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Call them and they should be able to help you
direct you what to do next. Right, Yes, so you
want to go over some of our favorite statistics.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, so I have.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Nearly one in five women, Yes, is that what you're
in the US experienced rape or attempt great sometimes in
their lives. And then I have one and seventy one
men have experienced it, and one.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
In four college women experience assault or harassment. They said
thirty two percent of adults with intellectual disabilities experienced sexual violence,
and fifty one percent of female victims before being raised
by an intimate partner and forty percent by an acquaintance. Yeah,
because it says that victims often know the person who's

(09:28):
assaulting them, and it says sexual assault is considered the
most underreported and dismissed crime in the country.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Yeah, is frightening.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
And let's go over why they don't report it.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
So, the National Institute of Health says the number one
reason it's not reported is because the victim feels guilty
as well as embarrassed. As well as what you and
I were talking about earlier, is this rape culture that.

Speaker 6 (09:58):
The victim blamed.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
There's a glamorization of sexual violence, and like pornography and
and things like that, it's perpetrated through misogynistic language and
objectification of women's bodies. I mean, I think it's like
Paul Danielle. Recently, there's been a new meme.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
Going around on TikTok your body.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
My Choice aims at women whose voices have been taken
away as in relationship to you know, their choice of
what to do in the case of pregnancies and things
like that.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
But I think it's important to say sexual assault is
never the victim's fault.

Speaker 6 (10:42):
Never, never, and whenever you're.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Ever come in contact or talk to the person, when
the even be family, I mean, you have to reiterate
that to them, that it is not your fault, you know,
and they sometimes the victim will feel guilty, Well, if
I didn't drink too much or and that's their.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
Yeah, or if I didn't where yeah that is no.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
That's yeah, absolute bullshit you that's no.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
I mean, it's a violent attack that is obviously degrading
and humiliating for the victim. So I mean it's understandable
why they feel that way. They've just I mean they've
taken away all your powers.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yes, And they.

Speaker 8 (11:24):
Say that actually only two percent of all rapes that
are reported are considered false. And I think it's important
to know that sexual assault is not motivated by sexual desire.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
It's just it's about hostility, power and.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Control over someone else. And offenders come from all walks
of life. I mean, like you said that one boy
was from Stanford.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
So yeah, you know, yeah, they said he was a
star athlete, and you know, they get like a little
slap on the rest, which you're taking away this whole
women's identity and you know, her safety and.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
You get three months in jail.

Speaker 6 (12:04):
So just that's true. Just terrible.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
So if you have been sexually assaulted, there are some
steps they say to take. Make sure that you go
to a safe place. If you're in danger, call nine
to one one, you can call it twenty four hour hotline.
An advocate can provide support, information and referrals.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Seek immediate attention for health concerns local hospitals. It requests
the forensic medical examination, which is a quote rape kit,
within the first ninety six hours of the assault.

Speaker 6 (12:44):
Preserve evidence.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
They say, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Do not change clothes, shower, you're innate, brush your hair, teeth,
or touch anything where the assault occurred. Consider, consider reporting
the assault to the police. Definitely seek counseling and ongoing
support plan for your ongoing safety.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Right.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
So, I think it's important to know that this is
a traumatic event and lots of survivors display different emotions
anywhere from anger and rage to complete apathy and shock.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
Because like Danielle said, you know your.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Your whole being is just violated.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Right, yes, and just one more time for that number
you said to call, the next National Sexual Assault Hotline
is one eight hundred sixty five six four six seven three.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
They also do have for more information. They have a
website too, the http dot backslashes www dot.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
N s v RC dot org.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Right, because you know, sometimes people don't like to call
and talk, so but you can get on there and
see your steps and then you know, maybe feel.

Speaker 6 (13:59):
More comfortable calling or having somebody call you want to
go into treatment?

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Okay, So the treatment is basically trauma focused cognitive behavioral
therapy and then I movement des desensitive I movement desensitization
and reprocessing therapy, which we went over before.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
But if you want, I can tell people again what
that is.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah, I mean I think that that is so important.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Okay, So e M d R I Movement desensicitation and
reprocessing is a treatment. It's so let's start, let's backtrack. So,
trauma memories are often stored.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
In a way that doesn't allow you to heal.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Therefore, the brain doesn't recognize the danger is over, and
so this focuses on changing the emotions, thoughts, or behavior
is a result from the trauma. It doesn't require talking
in a lot of details about the trauma. So during EMDR,
the person accesses the memories of trauma in a very
specific way with the therapist and this is combined with

(15:08):
ey've movements and guided instructions to access these traumatic memories
and an effort to help the patient reprocess what they
remember the traumatic event.

Speaker 6 (15:16):
And this reprocessing helps to repair.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
The mental injury from the memories so that remember it
no longer feels like reliving it and other related feelings
and they become more manageable. That's so basically, when you're traumatized,
the brain stores.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
This in a part of the brain where it's not
supposed to basically be.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
So whenever you're in a similar situation or something that
reminds you of that a smell, a sound, you go
into that flight or fright response that your body has.
And so through this therapy, it puts the memories where
they're supposed to be basically in your brain, and you're
able to not have that immediate response and then deal

(15:58):
with it.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
And I've had a lot of.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Patients who've done this for rape as.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Well as you know.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
All sorts of like postraumatic stress disorders occurrences, and it
really does.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Help these Yeah, yeah, definitely, yeah, because I've had you know,
even people as adults now that we're kids that were
sexually molested.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
And stuff like that, they they use.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
This form of therapy and you see it.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Really working for them, and that's a whole other thing.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yea whole Yeah, it is if it's a family member
and yeah, issue, whole other issue. So for the survivors,
there's many ways for them to heal from the sexual assault.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
For some survivors, healing process involves getting involved in efforts
to support other survivors, raising awareness about sexual violence, working
towards preventing sexual violence, and getting involved to change the.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Laws and policies, which is huge about the crimes of
sexual violence. And treatment of survivors. Now, every survivor.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Has to work on their own healing process and their
own time if they want to get involved in stuff
like that, but it is suggested that they do, especially
working with the crisis counselor and getting therapy and also to.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Medication, you know, just for the anxiety. They often go
into depression.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
And I think a big thing is, like we talked
about before, is changing the culture about the victims.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
Blaming and women being afraid. And I think.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
The Hashtagni Seeing movement, yeah, has helped a lot of
that come to the forefront of people's consciousness, including.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Men right and realizing. I mean, I know I taught
my son from a young.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Age if you see a woman and who's being abused,
who's unconscious, that's great.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
You just do something.

Speaker 6 (18:01):
After this assault.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
You know, if you ever come in contact with somebody
and they're telling you this, I would definitely let them
know that we believe you, we are here for you,
and it.

Speaker 6 (18:12):
Is not your fault.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
I mean that that can end on that note that.

Speaker 6 (18:16):
I mean, it's such.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
A great The majority of my patients who who I
had seen in the past, it was always like, well,
like you said, if I hadn't.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Been there, if I hadn't yeah, yeah, and I.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Don't care if you're buttuck naked sitting on a God's
lap and yeah no yeah, and it just once again,
we believe you, We are here for you, and it.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Is not your fault exactly, and reach out definitely, seek
medical attention, counseling and all that. Okay, thanks everybody, you
take care

Speaker 2 (19:02):
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