Rally Point 59

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Rally pointers fun.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Okay, America, it's Friday.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
It's time to get happy with their host Jay the
Sorry Timingway, with his co host Amanda Micano, and of
course the man mconnell.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Sounds real great saying the brain.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yo, Happy Friday.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Let's get at this.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
All right, Sarge Ray jump right in.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
You already know.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
And now for this segment of our show, we have
with us via phone, Elise Fernanda's Pain formerly known as Salomony.
She is a veteran and she's going to tell us
her story this morning. So good morning, Elise, thank you
for being with us this morning.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Good morning everyone, Good morning, good morning.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
I'll say, yeah, it's the full house. Pretty cool, huh. So,
so let's talk about your military career. Tell us how
it all began.

Speaker 5 (00:49):
Oh my goodness, Well, you guys are too young to
know this, But back when I was a teenager, I
was watching China Beach, which was about an army nurse
serving in Vietnam, and I got really inspired by that,
and one day I just randomly went to a recruiting
office in Bridgford, Connecticut, where I grew up, and went

(01:09):
to talk to an army recruiter and I joined the
Army and I enlisted in the Army right out of
high school, did three years, spend a year in Korea.
I think the funny story is that I grew up
in Connecticut and always wanted to travel. And my first assignment,
for those of you guys at our Army was four Dicks,
New Jersey, which was literally an hour and a half

(01:30):
from home, which I was really pissed about. I was like,
what the hell. So then after Korea, I ets, I
got out and got married, had my son, went back
to nursing school, and then I got commissioned in the
Army reserves for a little while, but I really wanted
to come back on active duty. And I was back

(01:51):
in the late eighties early nineties, and I was after
the Gulf War and the Army just wasn't hiring or
the Air Force, Yeah, the Army than hiring full time.
So that's kind of how I ended up in the
Air Force. And then I commissioned the Air Force. Retired
in twenty fourteen after twenty seven years of total service,
served in Afghanistan. Retired as a lieutenant colonel. In that meantime,

(02:16):
I also served in the Castiff, which is taking care
of the wounded warriors coming out of Afghanistan and Iraq,
and also finished my master's and got my nurse practitioner
and yeah, twenty fourteen, I clocked out. So that's my story. Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
I was like, I feel like that was the pseudo
bridged version.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
Maybe I'm very suitable.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
I would say, maybe there will be more stories to
come out of it as we continue talking.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
Oh, so many stories, so many stories.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Well, first off, honestly, ma'am, thank you for your service
and sacrifice, you being on our show as a and
for our listeners to enjoy providing inspiration to women that
are serving currently those who think are think of observing
in our military. I want to hand that out there
to your First of all, ma'am, I'm a little five six,
so if I call you a man, was this a

(03:07):
reflex that being the case? In reflection of your career,
if for some of our listeners, what inspired you to
get into the military and what was the best part
of it you think that you got out of it
when you left.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
First of all, I will say that I would not
be where I am today if it wasn't for the military,
and military was a great, great career for me. I
don't come from a military family. In fact, I came
from a pro weekend, single family household. And when I
told my mom that I had enlisted in the Army,

(03:43):
her response was, well, you made your bed, now you're
going to lay in it. And I was just like, okay, wow,
so yeah, So she just had no idea. You know,
my family were all, you know, mostly women, and no
one and no one in my family had joined the military.
But what inspired where we really and I want to
be really honest at the time was money for college

(04:04):
and I wanted to travel. I wanted an adventure. I
grew up in Bridgeport, Connecticut, which isn't really the greatest
place in the world at the time, and I wanted
to get out of there. And I think that story
will resonated with a lot of people in the military.
You know, we get out, you know, we come from
small towns and we want to get out. We want
to do something greater than ourselves, and we want to travel.

(04:25):
And I did. And I was one of those people
in the military that I took advantage of every opportunity
that I could because I wanted to get the most
out of it, and I did. I had a great,
great career. I will definitely you'll never hear me say anything.
You know, I've looked on the military is not for everyone.
But I had a great career and I'm very, very
grateful for my time in service. It was definitely who's

(04:47):
made me what has made me today. It wasn't for that,
who knows where I would have ended up because I
was a wild child. I was a wild teenager, and
the military taught me discipline and resilience.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
You know, some of the.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
Best people that our family now are near and dear
to my heart. And I had some great, great adventures,
you know, from Saint being stationed overseas in England, to
serving in Afghanistan, serving in Germany, serving in Korea, and
you know, just a lot of great adventures. And I
loved my time and I love talking about it because

(05:23):
it really was a great time in my life.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Outstanding, ma'am. And I will say this for our listeners Bridgeport, Connecticut,
because I'm from New Haven, Connecticut. Here Yeapnavier N ninety one.
All the way, I'll say during the time, Bridgeport is
a little rough, I'd say rough around regiment. It's it's
rough all the way through and through and for you
to come out of there is attestment to your I

(05:46):
say army values. So you carry that on too, the
air Force. So I'm thankful for your service and thank
you for being a representative. Oh my gosh, I represent
our veterans.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Thank you, oh, thank you.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
You know what it was if you you know, it's
funny because my uncle, no one in my family, like
I said, it's in the military, and my uncle till
this day doesn't believe that I came.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Out of all of that.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
And I had a great childhood, for my mom was
an amazing mother, but the fact that when I say
I was a wild child as a teenager, I was
a wild child. And my uncle to this day still
doesn't believe that, Like I did everything that I did.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
He's like, how did you do this and not get
kicked out?

Speaker 5 (06:31):
Well, you know, it's so funny because people back then
that knew me back then, they're like, we you just
how many years in them? I mean, they just don't
believe in people that need me now. They're like, you
did what in the military.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Well, to be fair, you know, people can't see through
the radio, but at least looks very youthful. If you know,
if you saw a photo of her, you would not
believe that she was in the military. You'd be like,
she's not old enough to have been in the military
that long. So you definitely have a full glow about
your wild side has probably paid off in that regard.

(07:03):
It's kept too young. But so I met you at
Andrews when, if I'm not mistaken, you had just wrapped
up being an exec and then you deployed. So you
were the executive officer for the hospital commander and then
you deployed, Which is kind of funny because that was
my story too, because I came on board a few

(07:24):
years after your tour as the exec and I was
the enlisted piece of that, and then as soon as
I was done, I deployed too, so we kind of
would pass you know, we met and passed in on
quite a lot at that point, and I do remember that.
But yeah, it always stuck out to me just how
how pleasant you were, but also how professional you were,

(07:47):
and you know, you were I think a major lieutenant
colonel when I saw you, and it was like, but
I never felt like it never felt intimidating to be
in your presence, and that was nice because you know,
in the military sometimes people get a little bit intimidated
by rank, and you still commanded respect, which was important,

(08:07):
especially as you know, another woman serving in the military
looking at someone who you know, kind of helped pave
some of the way ahead of me. It was nice
to see that, you know, you could have rank, you
could have authority, but you were still pleasant and approachable,
And to me, that was that was kind of what
I wanted to be when I grew up in the

(08:29):
Air Force, if you will. So that's what I took
from from our time together as far as when we
would interact. So yeah, so, and.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
That's so sweet of you, you know, I will say
that being prior and listed, I know sometimes it can
go the other way. But for me, being green and
being Army, which will always always be the Army, will
always be endre to me because that's how I started
in the military, and I had so many great lessons
there too. But I think that you know, you lead

(08:59):
by exam and I've always had My philosophy with leadership
has always been treat others like you want to be treated.
And I'm also about mentoring people and coaching people because
that's what I love and I think if I would
have had more of that early on in my career,
I might have done things a little bit differently, you know.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
So I always bought that.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
I always wanted to be that person that would mentor
you know, anybody around me that needed it or wanted it,
or that that needed help. So that was always and
I have to say, out of all the years in
the military, that's what I was known for, for being
that mentor and that coach for other people and for everybody,
for anybody that wanted it or needed it. And I
really take pride in that.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Well, you didn't forget where you came from, and that's
a big deal with prior enlisted officers because, like you said,
unfortunately some do forget, but you certainly did not, and
that was clearly evident. So I'm glad that. I'm glad
I wasn't the only one that noticed that.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
I love it. Well, it a fun time, and I
still remember you always be very extremely professional. So it's
so nice that we've kept in touch and seeing you
thrive and grow post retirement as well.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Well.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Thanks. I agree, I was going to say, because I
think it was like it's been eighteen years. If I'm
not mistaken. Gosh, now it's twenty twenty five, so yeah,
eighteen years.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
Has it been really that long?

Speaker 1 (10:20):
I know, it's almost like you're kind of proud of it,
but then you're like almost half disgusted. Really it's been
that much time. I'm like, oh my gosh, it feels
like a blink. It's true, it.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
Really does, you know. I think that's one thing that
people forget, you know, the military when we serve, especially
if you do a full career and you retire, I
think people forget that that's a small part of your life.
It's a chapter. It's not your whole life. Definitely some
great lessons to take away. And now as I you know,

(10:56):
I'm getting you know, I've been I've been retired now.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
For ten years.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
I don't know where the hell that Yeah, yeah, it.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Just goes by.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
Time goes by so quickly, and I think that you
have to, you know, be okay with reinventing yourself and
knowing that that's a great part of your career and
your life. But what's next? And I think that is
the thing that we all struggle with when we retire
or separate from the military. It is like, what's next? What,
you know, how do we reinvent ourselves and not forget

(11:23):
the lessons that we learned to the military, But you know,
how do we take those lessons and thrive in the
next chapter of our lives? And I think that's something
that we all struggle with. And I don't know what
the answer is except to keep moving forward. But yeah,
it's yeah. I think I September with my tenure anniversary
of retiring from the military, and I'm just kind of like,
my life has changed so much in those ten years,

(11:45):
and I've done so much in those ten years, and
it's it's you know, you're right, it goes buy in
a blink.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
So, ma'am, I have a question for you. So, in
the time since you've retired, did you find it difficult
to integrate And because when we get out of the military,
we you know, we speak in acronyms, nobody knows what.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
We're talking about. So did you did.

Speaker 6 (12:08):
You find it hard to integrate back into civilian life?

Speaker 5 (12:12):
You know, at first I didn't, only because I went
from so I got I retired from Colorado Springs, from
Peterson Air Force Base, and I went I moved here
to Washington and went to work at Madigan Army Medical Center.
So I was still like around the military community. And
I'll be honest with you, it was until three years

(12:33):
when I resigned from that position that then I kind
of started to really kind of struggle a little bit
with my transition. And part of that was that and
I'm going to be really frank here. I had just
gotten back from Let's see, I came back from Afghanistan
in twenty eleven and I had a deployment that was
it was it was a little rough. You know, we

(12:54):
lost people. I was sent to to Afghanistan as a
joint tasker. I was the only Air Force MILT Air
Force person well female anyways, with a group of special forces,
you know, and it was an interesting deployment. And like
I said, we lost people. And then I came home

(13:15):
and you know, kind of went through a rough time
coming home, going through you know, pretty nasty divorce and
so forth. And it didn't really hit me to almost
three or four years later after I retired, like everything
I went through and then I went to this other
job thinking that the grass was greener, because that's what
happens when we retire, separate, we have you know, three

(13:37):
to four jobs before we finally find our happy place.
And then I got laid off after only working at
that job for six months, which was a godsend because
it was not a good fit for me. And then
I was out of work for like six months. And
most people would be freaking out, but I was so

(13:58):
glad for that time off. And I will tell anyone
if your closest separating or retirement, do not go straight
to work. Take some time off and like spend time
with your family, spend time getting to know yourself again,
spend time traveling, spend time doing things that you love.
Because no one told me that when I retired, and
I really really needed that time, not only because I'd

(14:19):
just gone through a divorce and had just gone through
just really had come back from Afghanistan. But I didn't
really get that time to kind of decompress till many
years later, and I think that kind of delayed a
lot of my healing and processing of everything I had
gone through. And yeah, it was I wouldn't say that
my transition was overly difficult. That I have my challenges, yes,

(14:44):
but you know, I went to therapy, and I went
to therapy like right after I got battled Afghanistan because
I knew I needed it, and I did that healing,
but it really was it was a few years later
before everything kind of hit me. Yeah, So that's what
I would say. It was like, take that time to
really just kind of to yourself. And I think a
lot of people particularly maybe not so much if you're

(15:05):
just separating, but if you're retiring, people freak out about
the money aspect, But you know what you're going to
get your retirement. Most people that retire get some disability.
You know, try to plan for it if you can,
but if you can't, even if you just take six weeks,
you know, a couple of months off, it makes such
a huge difference. And that's probably the biggest advice I
have of people transitioning out of the military.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
Don't go straight to.

Speaker 5 (15:27):
Work because you will burn out, and I guarantee you
that you'll be looking for another job within a year.
That's statistically, that's what happens with most of us.

Speaker 6 (15:37):
So it's funny that you said that it took you
three or four years to figure that out, because I
retired five years ago and I had plenty of people
tell me, you know, take some time off, you know, don't.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Go straight back to work, but didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, I refuse.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
I did not either. I jumped straight into a job.

Speaker 6 (15:55):
Yeah, I would have been like so ashamed of myself
to just not do anything.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
I couldn't bear the thought of being like not having
a job. It wasn't I had no problem shedding the military.
My problem was I was just kind of like, what
do you mean I don't need to work. I'm like,
I was thirty nine when I retired. I was like, no, no,
I still need to work. And I did. And then
I was like, yeah, I ran myself into the ground

(16:21):
because I didn't take that time. And the weird part
is I was such a hypocrite because I would advise
people take a month off, like take at least a
month off. I mean I did do my like my
terminal leave, but I was still working through terminal leaves,
so it wasn't really I just I never took a
break until life forced me to take a break. Something

(16:42):
happened in my life that really forced me to like
pump the brakes turbo, like real hard. And when I
had to do that, that's when I I kind of
had to sit in that quiet and that you know,
spot of trying to get to know myself again, but
also trying I learned to be okay with quiet and

(17:02):
with like less activity, because I think being in the military,
we get into this tempo where we're used to like
operating in constant chaos. So then when all that chaos
kind of departs the area, we're like, what do I
do with my hands? Yeah, you know, like I don't
know what to do now.

Speaker 6 (17:17):
Yeah, for me, I just went straight into work, and
then I had a problem because I was like, you know,
what's wrong with these people?

Speaker 1 (17:25):
That's right? You know, I'm not even gonna lie. There
are sometimes I looked around and I was like, how
have some of these people made it this far in adulthood?
Like I could have been out on these streets doing
this minimal whatever, right and still making a living. Yeah, Like,
hold on a minute, I was killing myself in the military.

Speaker 6 (17:43):
Right because I retired. I retired at forty one, and
then I had, you know, bosses that are mid twenties,
and I'm.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Like, what am I doing here?

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (17:52):
So I had a couple jobs like that, and then
my wife's like, you're just terrible at being a civilian.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
So when there's wrong with that.

Speaker 6 (18:00):
When you told me it took three or four years
for you to like click, that's basically what it took
for me. So I just now started to come out
of my shell, like within the last year and say,
you know, there's other veterans out there that probably deal
with the same thing because we we just keep everything
bottled up, you know. We we had our military life

(18:21):
and now we have our civilian life, and you just
kind of carry that with you. So that's one of
my things is trying to get people out of their shell.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
Yeah, getting on the shelves, and I think finding community
outside of you know, it's so hard, and you all
know this because you guys are all veterans. It's when
you come on in the civilian sector and you are
surrounded by civilians that don't understand the military life or
the things that we've been through and they don't really care.

(18:52):
It's kind of hard because you're like, you just left
this huge, huge part of your life that you know
basically made you who you are as an adult, and
now it's like if you're like in a civilian area
where there's not any military you're kind of like, okay,
so now you have to learn how to be a
civilian again, you know, and be able to talk about

(19:13):
other things that don't mean that don't you know, Like
you have to learn to talk about things that aren't
deployment or military adventures or whatever. And I'll tell you,
guys a funny story. So I met my husband on
a blind date. And the first date I had like
diarrhea in the model and take it or leave it,
I mean, everything that they tell you to never do

(19:34):
on a first date, right, And he's just looking at me,
like with a smirk on his face the whole time.
And he had no military experience that I never did
in anybody in the military, never worked with the military.
He was a complete civilian. And it's funny now because
we've been together for over ten years. And he said
to me, you know, like a few months a couple

(19:56):
of weeks later, his brother, who who was an engineer
who had worked with the military, you know, he told
you know, Mark, he had told Mark about me and stuff.
And Mark was like, oh my gosh, she's a bad ass,
Like she's been to Afghaniston and she touched it. Wow.
He's like, where'd you meet her? And so then Murray
comes back to me. He's like, so I heard you're badass,

(20:17):
and I'm like, I'm kind of laughing. I'm like what
are you talking about? And I was like, yeah, I
am a badass, but why why are you saying that? Now?

Speaker 4 (20:22):
You know?

Speaker 5 (20:23):
But it's like civilians just don't get it, and it's
like really hard to kind of like communicate and sometimes
interact with civilians like they're boring, like you don't know
what you know.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Or we tell the stories that we think are hilarious
and they just kind of look at us like headline
and we're like, dude, that was hilarious. How do you
miss that? Like our brand of humor isn't always the same, and.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
Can you take that with our warped sense of humor
which is how we get through things? And then you
combine that with medical warped sense of humor. I'm like
laughing at things that people were like, that's kind of morbid,
and yes, yeah, yeah, it's a little morbid.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
It's a little morbid.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
You said something on social media that I totally ended
up stealing from you afterwards. You said something like somebody
brought a baby to your office and you were like,
my ovary screamed a little bit, and I was like,
oh my gosh, that is like the perfect way to
say that. So I ended up having a hysterectomy, probably
not a year after you posted that, because I think

(21:28):
you were already civilian at that point. And yeah, and
so after that, whenever people would bring babies around, it
was like, oh, because I always I have two kids
and I always wanted a third one, but my husband
claimed he was too old. He he wasn't, but that's
a story for another day. Anyways, so we only ended
up having two kids, and so every time people bring
babies around, I'd be like, oh, I'm like, my ovaries

(21:51):
are screaming ever so slightly, and they would look at
me like what is wrong with you? And I'm like, no,
that's funny. It's like, okay, well I guess you don't
get it. But yeah, you said that one time, and
it was just I totally stole it. I think I've
probably used it in less than twelve times ever since.
But yeah, I agree, like our humor, not everybody gets

(22:14):
it for sure, And I.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Will say I want to say thank you for making
it normalize that being a veteran, we have our own lingo.
And one of the things that we don't need to
do is completely become civilians again. I will fight that
to the day I die, because I want them to
catch up to me, not me downgrade to them. Because
I spent what fifteen years of my life training and
making sure taking care of the kids and making sure

(22:38):
they had a role model, a mentor. I'm not going
to go back and become sloppy Joe and say the
hell the fifteen years I spent sacrificing to be the
soldier that I am today. But you are still our
example of how the army can produce outstanding airman.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
And might have started it, but the Air Force finished it.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
I'll take that.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
You can.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
It flourished in the Air Force, damn straight.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
Let me tell you. Let me tell you, guys, when
I went to Afghanistan. So I was at Tinsley, and
I don't know if you guys are familiar with Tinsley,
which was out by southeast Afghanistan. They should call it
this circle of Fire. I think of the circle of
death or whatever. Anyways, so we get there and you know,
we've taken a helicopter from Baghdag. I'm not Bagdad Bagram,

(23:29):
you know, and We're flying around Afghanistan, Lynn, and I'm
like one of the only females in the helicopter, and
We're picking up guys in these random places, and I'm
just kind of like, i have all kinds of crazy
thoughts that I'm not going to talk about on the
radio because people will think I'm crazy, but you guys
would laugh. And we land and they throw our bags out,
and I'm like, I don't even know where the hell.
I am like, I don't even know if this is

(23:50):
like the right place, and you know, they're just like,
get out, get out, get on, and I'm like, okay,
So we get out, and I'm a Special Forces, right,
So these guys aren't wearing uniforms, they're all bearded up,
and I'm like this can't be the right place, you know,
And I'm like Air Force. I'm still in my you know,
fatigues and everything. So we get off the airplane and
then there was this other girl with a helicopter. And
then there's other girl who's Navy and she's worked with

(24:12):
the Seals and everything, and she was the police equivalent
in the Navy. I am like walking to the game
and I'm like, are you join the Air Force? I
would have to be doing this. I'm like losing my mind.
And she's looking at me like, oh my god, this
officer is not going to make it. She's like she's
not gonna make it, you know. So we joke around
because her and I have become lifelong friends, and she

(24:32):
tells the story how she comes over to me like
I don't know, a couple hours later to my room
and because this place had this place if you go
into if you watch I think it's on National Geographic.
I forget what this is called, but there's a show
about the Green Derays.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
That's the base.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
That's the fob that I was on, and she's like
she brings me over a gatoring. She goes like, yok'.
I'm like, just give me twenty four hours. Just give
me twenty four hours.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
And that's the army coming out of me.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
Because I just was like, okay, this is my new reality.
I will adjust. I am resilient. I can get through anything.
But the guys that were there with me, they just
laugh because I show up, I had listick on, my
hair's all perfect, you know, and they're like, look, look stars.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Some of y'all sleep on the stars, and some of
us find our TDY hotels by the number of stars.
So don't you should see some of the side eyes
coming out of that comment right now? I'm like, listen, Wow.

Speaker 5 (25:38):
So the funny part behind all that was, you know,
like six seven months later, when I'm leaving, the guys
are crying, you know, the Afghans were crying. They're like,
it's going to take care of us now, you know.
And I was so proud that I survived and thrived
throughout that deployment because and you know, at the time,
I was, I was, I was upset the way that
deployment happened. And that's another long story for another day

(26:00):
I'm not going to get into. But you know, I
realized at that point, I was like, I was meant
to be here. I was the right person to be here,
not only because of my skill sets, but because I
am prior Army. I can speak to their lingo. I
think someone that was purely air Force another woman, I
don't know if they literally would have thrived under that
environment because it was a tough environment. It was a

(26:21):
tough environment, and you know, there's there's some stuff that happens,
you know, in the military with women and men and
all of that, because it's just society. But to me,
I was like, I held my own and those guys
couldn't deny that. And I was so proud of myself
for that, because, let me tell you, those guys were rough.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
I believe that. Especially when she said special forces. I
was like, yeah, that's a totally different breed.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
Yeah, and I was. I had six strikes against me.
I think it was six or five. I was a female,
I was a medic, I was Air Force, and then
I was and I'm like, I can I can play
dirty and rough with these guys, but I'm also very
girly and a manicad type. You know, when I'm dressed up,
you would never know I was ever ever in the military,

(27:07):
playing dirt and like living in the field, you know.
So it's basis. Yeah, So it was just funny, like
thinking back on that time and how so it so
easily could have gone a different way. But despite everything,
that was a really learning, resilient, courage time in my

(27:27):
life because, like I said, I said, another person I don't.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
Think would have survived that. That's that deployment.

Speaker 5 (27:32):
It was not an easy deployment at all, but I
came out of it a much better person, a much
better resilient person. And that's one of the things about
my husband and I. We talk about our lives and
even though he wasn't in the military, he's been through
some crap and we sit there and we're like, how
did we survive some of these stories and chapters that
we've been through, And we're still like, we're perfectly pretty
normal people, and we're pretty happy, and we're resilient, and

(27:55):
we continue to thrive despite the things that have been
thrown to us. So I think that the military has
been such a great impactful part of my life that
has really gotten me to where I am today.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
We appreciate having you on the show today. Thank you
so much for spending some time with us and giving
us your insights and telling us your funny stories. And
we hope to have you on the show again soon.
So thank you.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
For having me, thank you for the opportunity, and I
hope that your audience gets some insight from you know,
from what.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
We talked about.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Absolutely, thank you, thank you very much.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
Thank you, You're welcome. Take care of you guys, you too.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
And now Welcome back to our segment Positively Caffeinated with
the one and only Dane Boyle, personal life coach and trainer.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
Hi day, Good morning, Good morning, everybody, morning morning. May
before we start, can we all take a sip of coffee?
It just sounds like a good idea to me.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Take a sip of something. It might not be coffee,
it's water. It's water, to be fair, I.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Have water too. We're gonna buy talking about that today too.
So there's a reason I use the Little Boys Room
all day. There's a protein shake on my desk, there's coffee,
and there's water.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
That's me. In the morning, I do like lemon juice,
like just the juice of a lemon and a cup,
and then I have my coffee, which is mushroom coffee,
and then I drink water pretty much all day. So
I'm with you on that.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Well, I'm having a flashback right now, America. If you
hear the word caffeine, that's the cue to take a
drink of your.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Coffee cup, correct, which I already did in abundance because
my coffee cups. I don't know about y'all, but like
I think those little coffee cups are really cute, but
they're horribly inadequate for my needs. And so my coffee
mugs are usually like sixteen to twenty four ouncers, no problem.

(29:51):
And my kids are like, Mom, why is your coffee
cup so much bigger than like the coffee cups at
so and so's house. I'm like, because mom's got needs
to dude, I don't know what to tell you. Mom
needs a little bit of extra help waking up in
the morning.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
That's funny, but you're not. You're drinking out of grandma's
tea set right like back in the day, we have
mega mega cuffs exactly.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, now we do for sure. Like my dad used
to have a little it's like an Italian and if
you're Italian and you're listening, I'm gonna butcher this, but whatever.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
I think.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
It's called like a Dema tessa or something. It's like
a very small coffee cup, extremely small, like for espresso.
And my dad used to drink coffee out of that
thing maybe had like and that was considered a big
one for Italy, but it was maybe like three ounces
at best, and he'd just drink like three of those
in the morning. Black coffee too, black, like his soul.

(30:47):
I love my father, he's great, but he definitely drinks
his coffee black, no sugar, no no. I'm like that
to me, is like that just steals the joy out
of coffee. I'm kind of one of those like would
you like a little coffee with your creamer and your
honey type of gal So wow, again.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
A second trigger right there. We drink coffee to stay
away for taste.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Oh well, I was gonna say, if you can't, if
you can't see sounds after you drink coffee, what's the
point there?

Speaker 2 (31:16):
You go.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
That's how I feel about it. If you can't hear
colors and see sounds, it just doesn't does not make
sense that the saying goes that dog don't hunt.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Oh boy.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Right though, back in the day, I'm sorry sorry to interrupt,
it was definitely all about staying away for sure. If
I add very little to my coffee to this.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Day, oh wow, well, God bless you all for that.
I still got to enjoy the go I'd be like,
where's where's the creamer, where's the the snickers for the
candy bar flavored.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Or whatever MRI sugar pack coffee?

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Right, I would say, I was definitely I was definitely
Air Force medical and I'm okay with that. We had standards, Yes,
we had standards. There was good coffee in the good
we're in the fridge in the breakroom. That's just how
we rolled.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Well back in a day in the field, we have time.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
To have it nice and oh no, you had to hope.
It was even more times we just stuck. If we
were out in the field, sometimes we just stuck the
grounds under our tongue and kept it moving pretty much.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeah, wow, another trigger.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
That's about I was.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Going to say. I think that's about as hardcore as
it gets old fashioned.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Lipper anoy it. I don't zone tobacco, but.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Coffee grounds, coffee grounds under the tongue.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Man.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
We that's a trip. That's a fast trip.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Yeah, what a rabbit hole, we dug.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Hey, it did the job and it got you through
the day.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Amen to that for sure.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
So tell us what yet going on in the your
negative woods. There any programs or things going on in
a Texas?

Speaker 4 (32:51):
Yeah? So, I mean it's it's even beyond Texas. So
I'm blessed to coach virtually as we speak, it's right
after the big holiday break and then it's black Friday
and it's cyber Monday, and then depending on the age
of your kids, it's you know, choir practices, and it's
who knows. There's so much going on in so many things.
So I was like, what can I do? What can

(33:13):
we do to not get overwhelmed during the holiday season?
And sometimes it's about again we set like caffeine fix, right,
you got to just do it, get through it, and
move on. And then all of a sudden it's gonna
be New Year's resolutions. We'll talk about that next month,
et cetera. And I was like, what are seven things?
Like created seven things? And I think we can do

(33:33):
most days of the week. And I say most days.
And I believe I said this before. You know, if
a coach, if we set out to do something every
single day, and I'm just going to ask, if you
set out to do something every single day, are you
most likely to do that or potentially fail? A few
times a week?

Speaker 1 (33:51):
I will potentially fail. And the first time I fall
off the wagon, it's like a perpetual tuck and roll.
Like it's not like up and get back on. It's
like one day. It's like I missed one day whatever.
Prime example So I've been trying to get back into
more of a workout routine, and I was doing really
well up until yesterday. I decided, you know, I'll give

(34:15):
myself a day of rest. I'll exercise my rest muscle. Right,
So now today I have to get back up and
get back on that wagon. And I'm like, I'm fighting it.
I'm like, mentally, I'm like, I have to do this.
I have to do this. I have to do this,
but you know, my body is like, nah, you don't
have to. It's cool. So yeah, so routines, like even

(34:38):
for being in the military for twenty years, when that
routine's not a you have to or the boogeyman of
your careers in dangers breathing down your neck everything else
is optional. I'm like, I'm still part of the check
of the month club. All I gotta do is keep
breathing so that it makes it really hard. I will
absolutely admit that has probably been a really hard thing

(34:58):
for me, is maintaining tines like that.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
I you know, as a kid, we fussed our folks
for creating maybe nighttime routines or baths on routines that
the older we get and those of us that have
raised children to realize that routine is so important. It
is so important. Absolutely, And then the first mindset for
me or that I challenge everybody and so I don't
have to I.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Get to agreed. I took that from you. You helped
me with that a lot as I was retiring. Oh
my gosh, four years ago. Isn't that crazy? How time
flies like that? But long ago? I retired four years ago. Yeah, yes,
and we've known each other for six almost seven years.

(35:41):
That's crazy. So but note Dane started telling me serge.
He was like, you know, he posted something on Facebook
one time, but then we talked about it. After that.
You can say I have to go to work, I
have to do this, blah blah. But he's like, if
you reframe it around I get to then that helps
you with more of a gradue mindset. And the thing

(36:02):
that I love is like where we live here in
Charlotte County, Florida, it's beautiful. So like when I'm driving
over bridges and looking out at Charlotte Harbor or driving
over to you a little Gasparilla, Boca gran I'm like,
if my kids are in the car with me, I'm like,
y'all we get to live here, like, how cool is this?

Speaker 3 (36:22):
You know?

Speaker 1 (36:22):
And it does? It changes your whole perspective to think
I get to you versus I have to.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
It truly changes your perspective. What are your thoughts on
that charge?

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Well, I can only say this, I mentally projected myself
ten years ago to here because to get to here,
I knew how to accomplish certain things. And I completely
understand the need to. I have to pass my PT
test and already to get promoted or go to the
next level my job. I keep my job, and I

(36:55):
never want to be those people on the sideline going
oof remedial PT.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Nope.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
I'm thankful that my routine that I've kind of given
builts in a built It has a built in U
break time. Three days on, two days off, one day,
two days, three days on, one day off. So it
rotates throughout the week, and sometimes you know, I have
that I'm feeling extra story.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Today, I'll pick it up tomorrow. I got two days off.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
And then, you know, everyone knows growth in your body
begins when it's at rest, So I pay the price
anytime I exude that those time periods. If you're gonna play,
you gotta pay for it, so pay ahead.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yeah, you're really good about sticking to that schedule for sure.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Well I'm stuck to Uh. I think my body becomes
so used to the routine that I have to it
minerates my blood pressure and if I miss a miss
a week, it goes triple digits. So oh wow, I'm
just I'm stuck.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Life is.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
I think of my body at a car, you treat
your card along your at last right. And I've seen
people and I don't know if it's had this moment
when you're out seeing some of your high school college
buddies same amount of times past and either they say,
oh you haven't changed the bit, and I'm fortunately you
can't return that same compliment and you go, oh, yes.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
You look great, even if you can recognize them. There's
some people that I went to high school with that
i'd like I go home to visit. My dad still
lives in the city that I grew up in, Virginia Beach,
and I go home sometimes and I'll be out in
public and it's like you have these weird deja vous
moments where you see somebody and you're like, I think
I know you, but I'm not sure, and it's like,

(38:41):
I'm almost positive some of those people are people I
went to high school with that I can't recognize.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Yes, and I'm thankful for and I say this is
joining the Army was a worse mistake. I love to
death because it provided me a discipline and a routine
that I would not.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Have picked up.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
Then.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
It wasn't a mistake. I tell people the Air Force
is a great snap decision I ever made. And people
thought I was crazy I did. I walked in the
recruiter's office and I was like, I'm not gonna I've
told this story before. I was like, this was January
of two thousand and one, and I was like, no,
I'm going to go in after labor day, which you
do the math when that would have been crazy. So

(39:19):
I was like, I'm gonna go in after labor day.
I want one more summer with some of my friends
who graduated after me or whatever. And the recruiters like
I would not do that. He's like, You're gonna end
up getting a ticket or getting pregnant, or something's gonna happen.
You're not gonna be able to go in, And I
was like nah. I was like, hey, don't put that
on me. But be I was like, I'll be there.
So I went home and it was the weirdest thing,

(39:41):
Like just stuff kept coming up that would just irritate
me to no end or frustrate me to the point
that no kidding. The same week, I walked right back
in the recruiter's office and I said, I will give
you six years of my life, just get me out
of here. He was like what, And like less than
a week later, I was blacklan bound on my way
to San Antonio So's. It was the greatest snap decision

(40:03):
I ever made. So I would dare say that, like
maybe the Army wasn't really a mistake for you, but
it was definitely like one of those decisions that you
kind of wondered about that ended up becoming a blessing,
even though initially you might have been wondering, what did
I get myself into? I think we all do that,
though I think we all said it basic training, going
what did I do? I'm like that I do here.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
One of the worst things I got during camp during
Ashley boot Camp is when I received letters from home
and people like you know, showing out showing pictures of
beers and I'm sitting there at the FTX at A
watching the base. I'm not going, what and sweet God
did I do to myself? And I'm going, you know what,
They're going to be there in fifteen years doing the
same thing, and you're going to be somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Better, doing something different.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
I was sticking in that story because let me tell
you something, fifteen years later, they're still there doing the
same thing. I show up once in a while, but
I have more skills and abilities, and they they're stuck.
I mean, they're not stuck, but the options have opened
up for US veterans to the average.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
Person for sure.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Some folks, their lives don't change, really, and I mean
that's all. It's a matter of perspective. It's a matter
of choice. I mean, I also know people who still
live in the same town I grew up in and
they're flourishing because they made the decision to continually move
themselves forward and do things to make themselves, you know, better,
or give themselves a better quality of life. But I've

(41:29):
also seen some people who, just like you said, it's
been twenty something years and they're they're kind of essentially
doing the same thing.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Right coach.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Oh god, it's called I'm getting he is a coach.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Actually.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
By the way, still for.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
The actually segue that into a conversation for those people
who aren't veterans and they want to have an opportunity
to change your life, would you recommend them trying to
kind of ignite that kind of fire than them to
start that change.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
I mean again we go back to I don't have to,
I get to and then literally there's some things that
I think you can do each and every day to
do that, and it's about setting that routine. It's about
setting that intention and it can It's as simple. We
go all the way back to talking about setting an
alarm or not setting alarm, choosing a setting in that

(42:21):
schedule to get up in the morning and when to
go to bed at night, because you control that even
if you work late, right, you get to decide if
you're going to scroll TikTok Instagram, if you're doing snapchat,
whatever you're doing, you control that, turn it off, set
it up. I try to get people to go to
bed at ten, but it depends on what time you

(42:43):
need to get up in the morning or you want
to get up in the morning. I mentioned this on
one of our earlier podcasts. Remember when you hit that
snooze button, it's different, right, So get your butt out
of bed, Get out of bed. Nol Robbins says, you
know it's that countdown four three two one, picture feet
on the floor. If my dogs sleep in my room,

(43:05):
and if my wife is listening, I remind all the
time I went more than fifty years without a damn
dog in my bed and not the dog's in my bed,
and that's not going to change apparently. But but if
the alarm, if I do, like a man to said,
oftentimes I wake up before the alarm goes off. But
when the alarm goes off, the dogs are ready, right,

(43:26):
They're ready to go, whether it's to go outside, use
the bathroom, to have their food, have their water. That's
where I would start, and that I challenge everybody. Get outside.
I'm gonna say that again, get outside, Go.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Touch go ahead, I said, go touch grass, which.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
We also talked about before. And here's the thing. I
had an intern years ago when I was running a
hospital based fit in the center, and she said, you
say the same thing every day, repetition. Guess what that's right?
You didn't learn how to march on the first day?
How many times did you get yelled at by the

(44:05):
drill instructor when we screwed up? We didn't about face,
we didn't left turnt whatever. Right, it is repetition. And
I also, I'm pretty sure my parents told me things
over and over that it took me forever to listen to.
And I know I told my kids. So it is
that repetition and truths are truths. Touch grass, get outside,

(44:25):
field the sun. Bundle up. If you live in Michigan
or Maine or wherever.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
If you live in southwest Florida, bundle up. Are you kidding?
It was like forty four degrees this morning for us.
That's cold, y'all.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Can you want myself all the time with that too?
In Texas?

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Yes, exactly. A temperature shift is a temperature shift. Forty
fifty degrees makes a difference.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Damn.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
Okay, you can't see me sitting with a beanie on
and a sweater in my house.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Right, I was to say, I'm sitting here in a
fleece myself and wearing boots, boots, boots. Wow, see cold enough?
You know, if the boots come out, if the hay
dudes get put away and the boots come out. You know,
it's cool.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
Yep, Texas going out is a hoodie, a beanie, jeans
and flip flops.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Right, yeah, so many people here, Like I was so
pleasantly surprised and yet also pleased to find out that
flip flops are considered appropriate business professional clothing here in
southwest Florida. It's wonderful, are in right? But yeah, but
you're right going back to you know, the things, the

(45:31):
decisions we make and the things that we do. Repetition
is definitely a piece of the puzzle to consistency, and
I think that's something that a lot of people struggle with,
whether you're a veteran or non veteran or I mean,
I know people on active duty. Heck, I was one
of them that struggled with consistency, like consistently doing the

(45:51):
same thing, setting a routine and making it that way.
Like I admired and slightly envied the people who were
creatures of habit because I was like, like, man, like,
I want to be like you when I grew up.
It was it was pretty cool to see, you know,
But then some of them would be like, well, I
kind of wish I wasn't like this because it gets
a little repetitive and boring, and I'm like, yeah, but

(46:12):
your consistent, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
And I think so that for most of us that
have built consistency, it's practice.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
I didn't wake up and decide I'd really like to
get up at four o'clock in the morning, you know,
blah blah blah. But I knew that it would work
for me. I thought it would work for me, and
then when I didn't want to do it, like I said,
I stopped hitting this news button. I was a snooze
er too. You know. All the things that I try
to teach, whether it's getting outside or setting me wake

(46:42):
up and to go to bed schedule, and all these
things are things that I felt like I needed, and
then I also studied and learned the benefits of them.
And now as I talk to you, it's years of
doing things. But we have to start with day one exactly.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
And then if you fall off the wagon and do
that perpetual tuck and roll, it's a matter of starting again.
It step one, A one whatever that looks like muscle memories, I.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
Do get muscle memory exactly hard I think the key
that's the key of having a coach in the community.
If we could all do it on our own, wouldn't
we be doing that on our own?

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Exactly correct?

Speaker 1 (47:21):
But I do think to some degree the beauty of
coaching is having that personal accountability and knowing that you
have someone to kind of not necessarily answer to, but
just somebody to be accountable to other than yourself. You
have somebody else who's going to point out things that
maybe you're aware of but you don't want to admit
to yourself, or those blind spots, or you know, whatever

(47:44):
the case might be. Having a coach is I think
helpful in that regard because then it's not just about
you holding you accountable. It's about you and somebody else
as a team holding you accountable exactly.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
And even within our community we have community goals and
then I think in general we don't want to and
you're probably not really going to let them down, but
we feel internally we're gonna let the team down if
we don't view X or. This morning, I get a
message and said, hey, have you heard from so and
so in our community? I'm like, I have not, But
guess what she's also on my list today to reach

(48:18):
out to personally. And I reach out all the time anyway,
but specifically instead of sending a text when I'm going
I'm going to ruck after this call is I'm always like, hey,
so and so with a video, just thinking of you today,
checking on you, making sure you're okay. Is there anything
I can do to help you and support you? And
I don't know what happens over the holiday weekend. Do
they get in a fight with their kids that they
have to work? I don't really know, but then it

(48:41):
gives lets them note that their coach, their community are
aware of who they are. And we all want to
be seen. We all want to be heard and cared for.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Most definitely, especially with our older veterans. I will say
that we've practiced the battle buddy system. They don't either
their children are older and have their own lives spinning,
or they don't have any kids and they're by themselves
and lost the spouse. One of the local organizations we
have here make it a point to make sure we
keep tabs on some of our veterans because we're hitting

(49:10):
that quarter of the year that you know, people feel
isolated because people are with other families and they're by themselves,
and we tend to digress and kind of shrink inward,
which I think is kind of unhealthy during this time
of the year. And Coach I would say that that's
why we kind of practice the battle buddy principle. If
you're gonna do something, do it in pairs, because, like

(49:32):
you just mentioned, I'm less likely to fail if I
think if I fail, it'll affect my battle. If I
fail only affects me. And when you have two people
involved into a program or a process, you're just you're
gonna support one another through the tough times.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
And that's inevitable.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
We're all gonna have tough times sooner or later for sure.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
And I love the whole nature of the battle buddy.
It's just it's big and we pick each other up right,
Just like you said, we're gonna have highs and lows.
On those of us that have lived long enough we
know that. Like isn't just hitting puppy dogs right and rainbows,
it's hard and getting shine go ahead.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
That's just singing that old Leslie Gore song where she's
like sud shine lollipops in rainbows. Something I don't know.
I don't know all the words, but that's the song
I always think of when I think of that kind
of thing. I'm actually old enough to remember who Leslie
Gore is. See, I'm an old soul, so I know
who all the older folks are. And that's not a

(50:29):
bad thing, not at all.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
That's great. But you know, whether it's getting outside, you know,
getting that fresh air, setting that alarm, checking out your
battle buddy, having a coach, having a community, being connected
to something bigger than yourself. And that's what I've seen
for most of us that have served, we always wanted
to be something much bigger or served something that was
bigger than just coach Dane or Sarge or Amanda. Was

(50:55):
always something bigger exactly. And even having your battle buddy,
it's I mean, I I've done training before and in
my part of Texas every now and then, it'll get
in the teens in twenties and we were training for
say one hundred mile bike ride, which by the way,
is the equivalent of a running a marathon, and it'll
be twenty seven degrees and it's it's the weather sucks.

(51:18):
But you know why I showed up because somebody else
was waiting for me. That's otherwise I had just gone
right back into the warmhouse.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Undred percent and coach. For our listeners who might want
to reach out to you and get or get exposed
to some of your material, where can they find.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
You at absolutely so Dame Boiled dn e oh y
ille dot com as my website. There's blog posts, there's
a way to sign up for email. You can actually
email me directly at Dane d an e at Daneboil
dot com and I personally will answer you. Those are
probably the two easiest ones. And I have a holiday
checklist that I which some of the things that I

(51:55):
just talked about. If you're just looking for some way
to stay accountable, and you can actually join our online
community per apolutely free for the month. All you have
to do is click on that and it actually says,
please join our Facebook group and we will help keep
you accountable and connected in coaching and community and not
just surviving the holidays, but thriving throughout the holidays.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Very cool, And where can people find your your group
on Facebook?

Speaker 4 (52:19):
Yeah, so if you go to Trailblazers, that's the one
that I want people in. When it says how did
you hear from me? Say that you heard it on
the rally point and I'll let you in because we
are selective and to be honest with you, people ask
to join all the time and we don't let everybody in.
It's a special invite only Facebook group.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Got it, okay? So if they just search trail blazers
they'll be able to find it. Or do they need
to search like trail Blazers Dane Boil for it to
pop up.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
Well, if you do both of those, put my name
in trailblazer. But does it really says Trailblazers plural with
an F because obviously there's an NBA team out in Portland,
the Portland trail Blazers that are ours. Ours is different.
So if you put the word trail Blazers in group
and my name d A. N E. B O Y
L E and what, you should be able to find us.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Very cool. Well, thanks so much for being on and
helping us do another segment of Positively Caffeinated with Dane Boyle.
We appreciate you, Dane.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
I absolutely love it. It's a great start to the
day for sure. I appreciate y'all.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Agreed, We'll see you next month.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
We appreciate you and caffeinate audio. Yes sir, And once again, folks,
that's our show. And right now I want to thank
our guests are being on there, and I want to
thank you our listeners out there for keeping us here
helping you. If we have any concerns, comments or ideas
for our show, please contact me at Hemingway at one
Rallypoint dot org.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
That's H. E. M I N G W A Y
at one Rallypoint dot D.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
And at this time I want to thank my producer
for being the main behind the mics and Amanda.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
I think that's pretty much for our show.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
For today, Rally Pointers spat Out.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
This is