Rally Point Radio 45

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Rally pointers fun in.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Good afternoon and morning wherever you're going to be in
the world today across the world. This is James the
Sartima with Amena Machiato Mikano here with you at the
rally point. And of course we have the man behind
the microphone zaying the brain. How are we doing today, folks.
I'm good, loving life and folks, we have an outstaying
show today and.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
On today's show we're going to have with us Nick York.
He is the founder and owner of Charlie Foxtrot Brewing. Nick,
thanks for being on the show today.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, We're glad to have you. So I have heard
a lot about you, good stuff, of course, But so
it sounds like you have a pretty interesting story of
how Charlie fox Trot Brewing came to be. So I guess,
as they say, let's start at the beginning about You're like,
are you from here? Did you grow up here? How

(00:57):
did you go into the military? What made you decide
to do that?

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah, I'm born and raised in Michigan, so never ever
thought i'd land in Florida. I had pretty thick blood.
I still probably have some thick blood now, but growing
up in Michigan, it all kind of started when I
was in high school. My parents wanted me to join
Junior RTC, so I looked into it. I did that,

(01:22):
and it was probably the best decision in my life.
I did an accelerated two year program with them. Because
it was at a career center, a whole bunch of
schools came into it. So I left there as the
battalion commander. Back in two thousand and nine, I had
received a full ride Army ROTC scholarship. Unfortunately, I did

(01:44):
not listen to my mother when I went to go
to college, to your mom, yeah, mom's.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
No better.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
And yeah. My mom told me that I should not
attempt to walk on to the soccer team because I
don't have very good studies skills because I didn't really
ever have to study too hard. She was right. I
did manage to walk on the soccer team at Norich University.
My first semester we were rooks, so kind of like

(02:13):
West Point has their summer Pleabe or whatever they call them,
but at Norwich we were rooks until you got recognized.
So basically the entire first semester we were rooks. We
had to walk in the gutters square every corner. Could
only sign out of my room for five minutes at
a time to go brush my teeth and come back.

(02:35):
But I wasn't in the library or at the classroom.
You couldn't do anything. So that was awesome. But my
first semester, because I couldn't do any of that, I
studied like crazy at a three point six gpa. Second semester,
I had a one nine to nine. Oh yeah, yeah.
That was when I was recognizing and I could do

(02:55):
whatever I want. So I started hanging out with soccer guys,
got into some stuff. I probably shouldn't have spent more
time with them than in my studies. So my parents said,
moved to Guatemala in between semesters. Oh boy, and yes,
what prompted that missionary work. So they were down there
for about ten or eleven years. And so when I

(03:17):
went home after this semester for summer, I got a
call from the school like, hey, you can spend ten
thousand dollars and come back for the summer and retake
a glass, or you can fork up to twenty thousand
dollars for the next semester before you're scholarship can be
renewed yes, So, not knowing what to do and not

(03:40):
really knowing how to get loans or whatnot, I decided
to stay. I transferred to a private Christian college. Not
the smartest decision. Evernything I could do at the military
school I couldn't do with Christian school. So at that
point they also wanted me to I would have had

(04:01):
to go to the school for five years because of
the RTC program, so I decided to enlist. At that point,
my cousin was going to go with me. He kind
of backed out. So I initially had an airborne EOD
contract lined up until he told me he wanted to
get in. He couldn't get that, so we decided to
join in the in the infantry, hoping to do the

(04:25):
buddy system.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Unfortunately, after I signed my contract, he told me that
he was no longer going to join. That's cool, yeah,
so I went ahead and joined. That was back in.
So I signed my contract. At the end of twenty ten,
shipped off to Basic and twenty eleven was in Fort Benning,

(04:50):
Georgia from May to August. That was my first experience
of a lot of heat Georgia.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yeah, southern heat, So that.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Was rough, but I did my I did the three
and a half years in the infantry. I did a
tour to Afghanistan. When we got back, I actually had
one of my sergeants told me that now that we
got deployed, it was time for me to try out
the big boy stuff and dropped off a six pack

(05:19):
of mixed different craft beers Nice, So that was awesome.
First craft beer I ever had was New Belgium's Fat
Tire Nice and then a Hole Garden half of Lison. Yeah,
I had a GROLs. Those were all. They were all awesome,
So it kind of took me away from the uh

(05:41):
none the macro stuff I won't say those names, and
started kind of getting into the craft beer industry taste wise. Unfortunately, though,
after being deployed to Afghanistan, I also was dealing with
issues with PTSD and so drinking went for having fun

(06:03):
with the guys to purposely blocking out every night. And
I did that for probably two and a half years,
and it got to the point where I was almost
killing a handle at night. Wow, but still waking up
at five o'clock and going pet next morning. Yeah. So

(06:24):
a full fledged, functioning alcoholic which is something I probably
never would have said until the last couple of months.
But after my time in the infantry, I had another
buddy who convinced me to apply for counterintelligence, so I
applied for that. Was just about to sign a contract

(06:44):
to extend in the infantry to go to Germany because
I really wanted to go to Germany. Unfortunately, or I
guess fortunately for me was my orders for counter intel
came in the monday morning that I was going to
go sign for the infantry. So thankfully I got into that,
did my time out in Wachuka with the training, and
then got got lucky enough to still get stationed in Germany. Yeah,

(07:09):
and that is just.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Had to pay your penance and forth with Chuka first.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yes, yeah, that means I was still.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Living Tucson, so I get it. I've been to the
hall mall that they follow the hall Yeah, yeah, been there.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, we uh and crazy enough. The first day of training,
some of us decided that we wanted to try and bond,
so we went to the bowling alley and I looked
over one of the guys and it's like, hey, man,
you want to get a beer, So yeah, let's get
a beer. All right go up to the bar and
be like, hey, can we get a you know, it
was like a doppelbox and like yeah, sure, Like do

(07:44):
you guys want to draft or can or you guys
want a tube? We looked at each other. I want
to do you tube? Yeah? Heck yeah. So that began
that relationship. He was he was actually in my wedding
back in uh what was it, twenty nineteen. But during
my time at sisec I, right before I got to

(08:05):
watch Uka, I took some time off and went to
back home in Michigan. I was approached by a friend
of the family who was opening a brewery up there,
and so that's what kind of started to get my
interest into the ownership side. I did all the research
on the market, not just in Michigan but nationally and

(08:31):
decided to make an investment in their company.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
So smart move.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Yes, well we'll see I still haven't gotten any payoff
from it, but seven years ago, but yeah, so we
I did that, got stationed over in Germany, made East
six in five and a half years.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
And one of the things that happened when I was
in the infantry and my deployment was my back was
getting hurt or had gotten hurt. And in the infantry,
they just they love vitamin.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
M, you know, the whole military time. I say, that
was the thing in the Air Force too, So vitamin
M is also known as motrin ibuprofen for our listeners
that love us as veterans but may not be. Yeah
that's now.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah. So the doctor there just kept telling me to
take some ibuprofen in and do some stretches. So yeah,
all right, great, I go, yeah it to roll out
of bed in the morning because my back pain is
so bad. So eventually, when I got to Germany, I
got seen by a doctor in an intelligence space, so
that kind of helped, and they did an X ray.

(09:43):
Then yeah, then they sent me for an MRI and
that was the downfall of my career. Went from running
around on our doing pt Friday morning to Monday morning
on my see, that was twenty fifteen, so my twenty
fifth birthday was told that I could no longer do

(10:06):
PET on Monday morning. The army was downsizing. That was
actually no So it was twenty sixteen when I got out,
and so yeah, they told me that the army was downsizing.
The doctor did not want to do the radio frequency
ablazion on my back because I was smoking cigarettes at

(10:26):
the time. Wow, And he told me that that would
negatively affect the surgery. Turns out it really was just
because he needed to have numbers to get people out.
So that's what happened. That that created the end of
my time in service. But one of the best things
that have ever happened to me in Germany was getting there.

(10:49):
And Germany has amazing beer.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Oh yes they do. That's like a local pride thing.
My husband is first generation American by way of Germany.
So he told me how every village has to some
degree their own recipe, but they use like the same
I think three or four ingredients, but it is it's
a local pride thing. And so like one of our
favorite beers is Augustina. Okay, yeah, yeah, oh so good,

(11:14):
so good.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
World War two, we went to Germany. Beer was warm,
not as much, no, sometimes you can, but for the
most part it's it's it's chilled now.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Nice and cold. They even delicious.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
They even do a mixture of hef of icon and
cola and people love that. But what we did was
when I got there, I had a couple other guys
that were relatively new within a you know, thirty days
of me being there, and so one thing that we
knew we had in common was craft beer. A couple

(11:54):
of us had deployed, a couple of us were prior
infantry into Intel, and so the one thing we knew
we had in common was our joy for craft beer.
And so that kind of got me away from drinking
as heavily on the liquor side. And we went to
the small place in downtown vs Boten Le Petite Belgie.

(12:16):
It was a Belgian craft beer bottle shop, and it
was amazing because you could all they didn't have any TVs.
They just sold bottled beer, and it was right in
the downtown center like you were looking at the main cathedral.
So yeah, it was awesome. But we did that over

(12:38):
you know, a year and a half or so, and
we would go out. It started, you know, once or
twice a week. There was sometimes we gotta get out there,
maybe three times, but it was at by the end
of it, it was guaranteed at least once a week
we were getting out there. And and what was nice
is we were able to try different beers that we

(13:00):
hadn't heard of or didn't see before and so doing
that without having you know, a television or not having
a cell phone. We talked about everything, politics, religion, family,
and it got to the point where we were starting
to open up about our issues with PTSD, to the
point where we were discussing dreams and like sharing our

(13:24):
notebooks of the things that we had been dealing with
and had been thinking about U and that really kind
of helped me and from what I can tell them
as well, but be able to kind of open up
about that, to talk about things that we hadn't talked
with anyone else about, kind of get it off our
chests and allowed us to reiterate to each other like

(13:47):
that circumstance that you were in, the results were not
your fault. That is the biggest thing that I had
dealt with with my PTSD was feeling the guilt of
some of the decisions that had to be made at
the time, and they're split second decisions and then you're in
a circumstance where it's your life for someone else's. So

(14:09):
that is the biggest part of Charlie Fox drop brewing. Yeah,
So when I got went to start clearing getting out,
the army had had the boots the business program, and
so I was like, well, you know what, I don't
really want to do anything with anyone else. I did
fast food when I was in high school. I did

(14:31):
my own long care company for a while, but other
than that, I have no fast food. Sports and the
military so and now beer. So because of the research
I had done in twenty fifteen, I decided that that's
what I wanted to get into. And crazy enough, I

(14:51):
was going to do Yorkshire Brewing Company and I fell
My wife and I had done a trip in Europe
shortly before I got out and spent some time in Ireland,
and I just fell in love with the history of
the English and the Irish conflicts over time. So that's
kind of what I wanted to do. Initially, I was like,

(15:11):
I love Irish pubs. Side favorite one is in actually Lisbon, Portugal,
an Irish pub in Portugal with the bartender was a
South African guy.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Nice. I was gonna say, we ate dinner on New
Year's Day in a British pub in Basel, Switzerland, so
anything goes Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, his name was Armando. I will never forget, but yeah,
so that's what I wanted to run it like an
Irish pub but used to name as English in the
play on the history. Thankfully. I had some advisors that
were like, that's great for you, but how many people
are really going to understand that, and is that going

(15:58):
to draw people in from the business side? And I
was like, you know what, No, Like, you need to
focus on what you know and what you believe in
and what you want your company to do. So at
that point I was like, all right. Took a couple
of weeks to sit back think about it, like, what
is it that I know? I know craft beer is delicious.

(16:21):
I know. I'm a veteran that moved to a state
I never thought I would move to. I'm in college.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Even though half of your home state lives here.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Now, yeah, right, that's why we play Wednesday night.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
We do have a lot of Michiganers down here.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
And so at that time I was like, all right,
so I know these things. One of the things that
I'm dealing with right now is that transition from the
military into the civilian life. I started drinking heavy again
and to the point where I get I got done
with a biology class and was asking the guys like, hey, bosses,

(17:02):
over early, you guys want to go grab a drink.
I'm not twenty one. I'm not twenty one. Oh wow,
it's nine o'clock in the morning for all the answers.
So I was like, all right, well that kind of
helps direct me. So I was like, well, now I'm
isolated in school as well. I'm surrounded by people, but

(17:26):
I don't have anything to relate with them. They don't
even can't even relate on the craft beer side because
they're not old enough to drink, and so that just
kind of pushed me even more so towards how we
got to Charlie Foxtrot and it was when we finally
decided that all right, this is what we want to do.
We want to have a place where people who are
struggling with PTSD, people who are transitioning in their life

(17:49):
and don't have anywhere else to go or can't find
a commonality with someone at any other aspect of their life.
I want them to be able to come to Charlie
fox Trot Brewing and be able to experience that. We
were tossing around ideas with the name. At that point
we just knew, you know, the brewery and we're like,

(18:10):
all right, what can we figure out that shows that
we are veterans, shows that we are committed to that culture.
And it's something that as soon as someone sees the name,
they know immediately exactly.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
They know the connotation.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yes, So we figured, you know, if someone knows what
Charlie Foxtrott means, they're going to immediately want to come there.
If they don't know what it means, they're going to
see it, hopefully as the phonetic alphabet and be like, hey,
that's got to be some sort of first responder or
military aspect a company. And that's where Charlie Foxtrott came from.
And over we founded the company in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah, we had gone through Florida Golf Coast University's Veteran
Entrepreneurship Program, which was partly sponsored by the Florida Veterans.
I forget the full the legal name of them, but
they're a program here in Florida. I think it's called
Florida Veterans. But so they helped put it on and

(19:15):
it basically we spent you know, half a semester going
over our business idea and our plans, getting taught on
how to make business models and how to find customer
basis and all that, and at the end of it,
they had a shark tank for the veterans. They called

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it a compassionate shark tank.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
And compassionate, compassionate.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah right, it's a architect I.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Know, Kinder, it's a Kinder Jentler military now.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yes, yeah it is. And so at at that we
were doing a business pitch in front of business owners
in the area and they, you know, judged, they had
a certain criteria and they had they knew this was
the pot of money that was up for grabs between
all of the people who were presenting. And so we

(20:12):
presented through the Veterans Entrepreneurship Program once and then through
the they had one for students as well, because you
didn't have to be a student to go.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Into the Veterans Entrepreneurship Oh wow, okay.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
As far as I know, you still don't have to be.
But then they also had another program for students. So
I was a student at the time, so I went
through that. So we received just under twenty thousand dollars
in seed funding. Wonderful and what was Yeah, well its
nice as that's not we didn't have to pay that back.

(20:43):
So when we got that we had to receive the check,
we had to create an LLC. So in twenty eighteen,
that's what we did, and we received the money started
working on We purchased our first set of equipment to
work on our recipes. When we started, it's myself and
a co founder. That's still who we are right now.

(21:03):
My co founder was is the beer guy. He went
to school for beer. I went to school for business.
The perfect yeah, exactly, and that's what we were thinking
about when we did it. And so he started working
on the recipes. He was living up in Nashville and
we were getting great feedback up there. We had done

(21:24):
a couple of crowdfundings down here to kind of help
raise We were set to get into a building in
Northport back in nineteen trying to secure private funding, and
then that big five letter word came in and kind
of shut us down. Our investors pulled out because they

(21:46):
needed to make sure that their business is stayed a
float movement, and shortly before shortly after that, I think
at the end of twenty twenty beginning of twenty twenty one,
my co founder move down here. I told him, I
was like, I'm glad that the beer is tasting well
up there, and obviously Asheville, North Carolina knows craft beer,

(22:08):
so I was like, that's perfect. However, the industry is
slightly different down here in Florida, so I need you
to be a I need you to be able to
produce beer here for our customer base here to try. Uh.
And so that's what we did. We partnered with Team
Doogie Adult Sports and Rec League and did a sponsored

(22:30):
a couple of their events and their golf tournaments, and
brought out beer for everyone there to sample. Everyone loved it. Initially,
the palot that we brought out, everyone absolutely loved it.
But we were finding that they that group was more
geared towards the cheaper beer that they could drink more

(22:52):
amount of or Seltzer's.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Kind of flavor.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah yeah, lighter, and so even though our pale ale
is super nice, light and crisp, we tried bringing out
our oatmeal stout once most of the people, like my.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Language style supporters all the good heavy stuff.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Oh yeah, we have an amazing Our oatmeal stout is
ten and a half percent but drinks like a five percenter,
So smooth, so light.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, so that's even that's dangerous man, that'll k five
percent and you get three in. It's like, oh mercy.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yes, wow absolutely. So after that one though, we had
people asking, well, what about a seltzer. You guys can
do anything like that. So one thing that brewers.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Know your customers, right, that's what sucks. It's like you
might be like, oh, but it's like, if that's what
your customers want, what.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
You go for right exactly. The there's a common saying
that ninety five percent of what you're brewing is for
the business, is for what your customer is want. The
five percent is what you really want. That's what you
get to play with. And so that's what we did.
As much as it hurt and pained us to make
a seltzer, we did it, and we did two different

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varieties of it and everyone loved it.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
And well that's a good problem to have.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
I mean, yes, yeah, it is. And and the crazy
thing is most people don't realize how Selter's made. It's
literally just carbonated water with sugar. That and the sugar
is what gets you the all call content and then
you add the additives for the flavor.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
Interesting, so the signs behind the drinks you so.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
A selter i would take it. Is it cheaper to
make them beer?

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Okay, that's what I figured. I'm like, so for all
of you that are drinking other brands that shall not
be named, think about how much you're spending on it.
It probably costs to make yeah car profit margin?

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah, and that I mean the first ones that we did,
we literally brewed like ten or eleven gallons. We split
it into two five gallons. We put pomegranate extract in
the one and cherry black cherry extract in the other.

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That's all it was. It was just Yeah, it took
us an hour and a half to brew, it took
five days to ferment, and then we just added in
the pomegranate and the black cherry and then the magic happened.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yeah, it comes to testing of the product.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yeah, it tested very well. We did another one later
on and we literally used a certain brands packets for
mixed drink and put it in there and serve that
and everyone loved those two.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Yeah, it's very The Celtics are very simple, but we
so that's kind of how we got our first samplings.
And then we were with Tapas, one that used to
be open in North or they would do craft beer
bottle shares and so we would bring out our home
group the oatmeal Stouth. Everyone loved that we brought out

(26:09):
our a half of ice in one time. We did
a an Abby double as well that people loved. We
have recipes for blondes, for an I p A, for Lagger.

(26:30):
There's a couple other ones. I'm John Banks.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Well, I was gonna say. The one that you do
serve that I absolutely love and I don't know if
you guys make it or not, is the PB and J.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
That is if you're listening.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, if you're listening and you live in Southwest Florida,
if your lips have not touched the magical goodness that
is the PB and J mix tape at Charlie Foxtrot,
you are missing out. Whether you like flavored beers or not.
When you try that, if there are soccer to be
knocked off, they're coming off.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Almost that good. Oh yeah, we've had Zooel was the
is one of the ones that we've brought in. And
right now we're not brewing anything yet, so everything we
have right now is a guest tap. But Zuel does
the peanut butter and jelly sour and it is, like
you said, it's fantastic smells.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
It smells like bread, fresh bread and peanut butter a
little bit, and then you taste it and then the
jelly comes in. But it's like, oh, it's perfect.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
And folks believe you me. Yes, I'm going to try
this with wheat bread. I'm gonna dunk bread in my beer.
I'm going to tell you that I'm going to is.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
That it is really good. I'm a beer snob, so yeah,
it's really good.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
We have another one that's also really good from a
local burry three Bridges up in Venice. We have their
field trip peanut butter and jelly sour as well. So
that one's really good to you. And what's interesting about
beer is you can it's so hard to replicate a recipe.

(28:08):
That's why recipes aren't really trademarks, because there's so much
that goes into the brewing process that I could hand
you my recipe and you make it here in Port Charlotte,
but if I make it in Ashville or it's gonna
taste different. And then the system that you're using too.
So what's nice is you know I've brought in you

(28:33):
talking about the peanmum and jelly. We've had three or
four different peanut butter and jelly sours in and none
of them taste the same.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Really yeah, which is awesome. They all are good, but
they all have different aspects.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
Well you have, you have different flavored kind of like.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
But that's also kind of like how German beer is
because every village uses like the same three or four ingredients.
But who knows, hops up in Berlin might not be
the same. It might not taste the same as the
hops down in Munich, you know what I mean. It's
like those are different ends of the country.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yeah, and Germany is very proud of their purity laws
when it comes to beer. And like you said, it's
basically four ingredients in every beer there and.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
They they all taste distinctly different. Yes, Like I can
tell the difference between drinking Augustina at Augustina Amdom in
the middle of Marion Plots and Munich versus drinking the
beer that's made in Klimakno, which is outside of Berlin.
Excuse me, So I mean, yeah, you can totally taste
the difference no matter where you are in the country.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Oh wow, So there are from from hearing.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
You're right, there are multiple variables that will influence absolutely
teaching every time.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Absolutely yeah. And one of the reasons too, like down
here in Florida, I mean, it's politics make it difficult
for one in some areas to open. Also well, in
our county specifically, they are the only county that I

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know of that has a different zoning requirement. So everywhere
else that I've seen in the state of Florida either
doesn't care what zone you're in or requires you to
be in a commercial general Charlotte County requires you to
be in an industrial lightweight zoned.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Interesting hm hmm, I heard that finger going in the
air snobbish.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
There is a way around it. You can apply for
a special exemption.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
And everything's waverable, just like the military.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
What does not play well though, is the real estate
landscape within that. Because the waiver, they have ninety days
to tell you yes or no, and if something's wrong
and you upset them, they will wait until day eighty

(31:07):
eight to tell you and then they have ninety days
again to tell you yes or no.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
Got it.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
So from on the real estate side of it, you
are either doing what we did initially and taking the
risk and purchasing or renting a facility that you plan
to brew on to then be told no, got it,
and that's just not financially smart. We lost a lot

(31:39):
of money in twenty twenty two doing this, and we
had a verbal communication with the county and we were told, yes,
you'll be able to get a special exemption. There not
a problem. What they didn't tell us was we could
get a special exemption if we paid for for a

(32:00):
Charlotte County public parking across the street that they had
already had zoned and planned and to this day it's
still not done. But they wanted us to fund that,
which was going to be at least two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars a brand new business trying to start up.
That is how we were going to get our special exemption.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
So you had to basically constructive parking lot, yes, across the.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Street Charlotte County property.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
And that basically means you did them a favor in
building a parking lot for the county.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yes, that's what they wanted us to do. So I
said no, thank you, and we moved across the street
to another location that had plenty of parking because that's
was what their issue was. Was the parking. Okay, great,
So now I found a place that has parking well.
Still dealing with the increase in building materials and delay

(33:00):
and being a small business trying to get open. Our
architects engineers took almost eight months to give us a
quote on a build out, and it was what they
call a gray shell building. It was completely empty. They
just had to, you know, put up the drywall around
the walls, add in the lights. We were going to

(33:21):
have them build you know, the bathrooms and a small
area for the brewing part, which only needed you know,
some walls, and we didn't want that all the way
the walls all the way after the ceiling. I didn't
know code very well at the time. I still don't
know in ins and outs, but I've definitely learned a
lot in the last few years. And so basically what

(33:42):
ended up happening was they wanted two hundred thousand dollars
to renovate this unit, which was eighteen or twenty eighteen,
either eighteen hundred and twenty two thousand or twenty two
hundred square foot smaller than the unit that we're in now.
And they also told us that we had to change
the AC the landlord property managers wouldn't do that. So

(34:06):
because I didn't have an additional fifty thousand dollars in
funds to purchase that they were going to they had
put us in contact with one of their companies that
they work with, and over the life span of the contract,
it was going to cost us an additional two hundred
and twenty thousand dollars to put in AC. So you're

(34:28):
talking now over four hundred thousand dollars to do this
renovation on less than twenty five hundred square foot So
and it took them eight months to get us those quotes,
so we pulled out.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
My question would be would you have owned that building? No?

Speaker 3 (34:47):
And that's the thing that is another sh still.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Got the whim of a property manager and a property
owner like yeah, yeah, he still would have had to
go through all of that bureau crazy as we call it,
because that's a lot of.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
Mother may I, that's that's your fresh burrow crazy returning.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
I stole it from Commissioner Stephen R. Deutsch, so I
can't take credit, and I'm sure he's listening. So I
gave you Deutsche twenty five cents, right, but yeah, no,
that's that's a lot. I mean, twenty two hundred square
feet is the size of most houses, So to think
about having to put that much, it doesn't cost that

(35:26):
much for ac in a house that size.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah, So how did you end up at the location
that you're at.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Now Hurricane Ian?

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Really?

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yeah? So obviously after Hurricane Ian, I mean, just like
so many people in this county and in southwest Florida,
we had proper damage as well. And I had almost
given up on opening the brewery. I was about to
give it a year to just kind of relax. I

(36:01):
had a one and a half year old at the time.
Oh time, yeah, consumed so and nothing really was going
my business. My founding business partner had moved out of
state because of the delays, and we had brought in
another business partner who recently left us. But they this

(36:25):
unit came available because of roof damage during Hurricane Yan.
The tenants moved down to Surprisingly, they moved to the
other plaza that we were going to look oh wow,
yeah right, and so the unit came available and we
were one of four or one of five companies trying

(36:45):
to get in.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
The landlord took a risk and went with us. Convinced
them somehow, and I can then convinced my business partner,
well business partners at the time, that we needed to
do this in three don't mind you. I mentioned that
to my co founder three years prior, but that's neither

(37:07):
here nor there, and so we needed to do open
as a tap room, get into contract brewing, and then
move on into building our own location. And so that's
what we did. We found the spot, which then turned
into a little bit more turmoil. So we found it
in March of twenty three, signed a lease and got

(37:34):
the keys in April twenty three, started talking with the
contractor and the subcontractors. The work was going to be
only permits. I was told I needed by the contractors
and by the engineers were for plumbing and electric. So
plumber came in, looked at it and said, hey, I

(37:55):
need need some sort of planes to nowhere to put
everything all right?

Speaker 4 (37:59):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
So I reached out to that and they told me
they needed engineering plans and I didn't know much, so
I was able finally after about a month and a
half of back and forth trying to get a hold
of companies, I finally found a company that would look
into it and came out on site and didn't assess me.
They told me that they couldn't do anything until I

(38:23):
had an architectural plans.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
So down the rabbit hole we go.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Yeah, so I found an architect who is licensed in Florida.
Their home offices in Georgia, but the architect lives in Columbia,
so communicating through him, he saw the premise through photos. Thankfully,
one of my friends, the MC yesterday Tony came in

(38:51):
and took pictures of the whole place, so I was
able to send those to the architect and the plans
that the landlord had given me, and we were able
to make plans from that. Engineers come back a couple
of weeks later saying, actually, looking at everything, you don't
need engineering plans. You're not changing ac You're not changing anything.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Crazy.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
So that puts us into the end of May, beginning
of June. And when I got that, I was all right.
So now I figured out what we gotta do. Tried
reaching out to my general contractor. General contractor had been
having some health issues that I knew about, and then

(39:32):
he hadn't responded to me, hadn't responded to me. Hadn't
responded to me. Finally, my wife reached out to him
in beginning of July because we had used to me
at our property before, so she had his number as well.
He answered her, I'm sorry, you're gonna have to tell
Nick he's gonna need to find another contractor. I'm currently

(39:55):
in the hospital. Bet about it. Have my kidney removed?

Speaker 4 (39:57):
Oh my goodness, Troy fox Trot.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yes, yeah, so we helped your name for sure.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Already, absolutely, and that's been a fun joke. I should
have named the place Rainbows and Sundry, But because the
contractor and the engineers had told me that the only
permits I needed were for plumbing and electrical, I was like,
fox Trot it, I'm going to go in and do
this myself. And so that's what I did that night.

(40:29):
I went in and started tearing down walls that weren't
that didn't need to be there, or that needed to
be moved. Did that, got the wall moved. Then I
needed to do the floors. I couldn't put any couldn't
do the floors until I moved the wall, couldn't do
drywall until I did the floors. So thankfully, when I

(40:50):
reached out to sun Belt. They helped me save some money,
and it was a lot of a couple of nights of
sleepless time. But they're like, hey, rent this on Friday
and bring it back on Monday, versus I was trying
to rent it on Wednesday. Might get an hour or
two in between Wednesday and Friday in the weekend. So
that's what I did. I rented the floor grinder on

(41:13):
Friday and just plugged away and started grinding the floor down.
There was still had been some carpet materials on there.
On my hands and knees feeling crash.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Say how many layers of flooring did you go through
when you started scraping?

Speaker 3 (41:27):
Yeah, thankfully it wasn't too much. I just had a
take off, you know, about a quarter inch or so
throughout the building. But one thing that I learned is
the quick concrete stuff that you use, the patch stuff.
It's great for what you need to but if you
ever have to go in in in there and tear
it up, it's really easy to tear up it is. Yes,

(41:51):
it just crumbles apart. Not what I needed with a
pham grind, with a with a grinding tool. As I'm
going through it, sitting there going over and all of
a sudden it hits it and just whips across the room,
almost fallen. And yeah, so I did. I end up

(42:12):
doing probably eighty five percent of the construction inside Charlie
Fox Trot by myself.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
Cost saver.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Yeah, yeah, it saved me a ton of money initially
until I had once to get my certificate occupancy in September.
I quit my job, mind you, in August, I was
a director of food and nutrition services at Encompass Health
Rehab Hospital in Sarasota, and so I quit my job

(42:42):
so I could spend the last couple of weeks of
August and beginning of September to get this under everything done,
ready set up and to go. Certificate occupancy. Comes back.
Building department tells me that a wall moved, so I
needed I was, like, it's not a structural wall. Every

(43:04):
engineering contractor I've told talked with has said I didn't
need it. I have a separate permit for the electrical
that was in it, and that's separate. Like, nope, it's
a commercial building. You have to have a permit, all right.
Didn't fight it cost money to bring in a contractor
who won was willing to look at it, to take

(43:24):
the time to look at what I was doing. Made
a couple of minor adjustments because the inspectors would come
in and nitpick at the blue plant.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
They would look for, so they wanted to make sure
you had a successful product.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
I'm sure a first time going, right, Yeah, I got
a first time go. But no one looked at my blueprints.
Oh my god, that was a fun part. So I
got brought the contractor in and right before my wife
and I went to Germany for October Fest. So middle

(44:00):
of September, he did some work while I was gone.
I came back said, hey, are we ready for inspections? Yeah? Absolutely, Well,
somehow our communication broke down. The only reason I brought
him in is because I, as a tenant, could not
apply for a permit, so I needed a contractor or

(44:22):
arrangement from the landlord, and I wasn't gonna get it
from the landlord, so I brought him. He thought I
applied for the permit, but I couldn't, so that was
another delay. Charlotte County had changed some of their requirements
for permits, which resulted in another delay. The contractor wasn't
aware of it. I had to get my architect to

(44:45):
have a third party verify my architectural plans, which was
fun because he's out of country on holiday. I had
to wait. So I got finally got that submitted and
the plans got submitted and everything finalized, ready to go
for the county to review it the Monday before Thanksgiving.

(45:13):
No one looks at it. No one looks at it.
No one looks at it. I come back in checked, Okay,
I just want to see where my permit's at. Oh
it's a start date was yesterday. What are you talking about?
This permit was initially submitted in the beginning of October.
We finalized all the documents that were requested a week ago.

(45:36):
What's going on? Like, oh, well, it didn't get reviewed yet,
so the timeline doesn't start until they review the documents.
And then I saw I asked. I was like, hey,
so what can I do to help expedite this because
I'm losing money right now, I'm paying rent, I'm not
open and they told me nothing. So Facebook post, hey

(46:00):
does anyone know anything about what we can possibly do?
And then a couple of people suggest so that we
reach out to the county commissioners. So reached out to
Steven ar Deutsch, which he jumped on it right away.
Reached out to the permitting department and asking them, hey,
can we get this push through. It's a veteran own

(46:20):
business trying to get open. He's had some bad luck
and it took him thirty or forty minutes on hold
and being transferred between people at the permitting office before
he was able to talk to them. To the manager
manager city, Yeah, we'll put it on that this needs
to be a priority first alert. A couple of days

(46:43):
go by, no movement on the permit, so I go
in in person. I'm told that there's no note about
it needing to be a priority. Nothing all right. So
I called mister Deutsch again. He's like, all right, let
me get on this.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Call him.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
He got it. It's kind of squared away, and was
able to get a few things looked at and then
there was nothing. And I was like, all right, this
last thing I need is the Charlotte County Utilities. Like,
nothing changed. This should be the easiest thing in the world.
So I go in in person.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Get a dangerous word. You said, should should?

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Yeah, you would think so? Yeah. So we went in
and I started I asked the questions again again, there
was apparently no note about it being a priority. By
time I left the permitting office and made it back
to Charlotte Foxtrott, they had already reviewed it. So thankfully
someone was like, all right, let's get on this. Well
it got denied. What yeah for a piece of paper

(47:43):
that no one tells you you need until it gets
reviewed and it's not submitted. So for all those listening,
if you are doing anything with commercial business and you
are changing the type of business or the potential occupancy
of the building, you have to have a water flow
test done.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
A water flow.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Test, yes, because of the changing capacity.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Yes, So they need to make sure that the water
meters is adequate for the new business that's coming in. Yes.
So if there's any additional toilets added, any additional water
flow added, they just need to make sure that that
is done, which no one told me until I've yeah,

(48:29):
And so that I found that out on a Thursday.
So I'm scrambling trying to get my plumber to do
this because the number that they told me to call,
I called, and they said that the plumber needed to
do a test and that there was some sort of
paperwork they needed to get submitted. Miscommunication, miscommunication, miscommunication. Finally,

(48:55):
my plumber was figured it all out, got out there
on a Saturday, did what he needed to do and
submitted the paperwork. Mind you, this is in December now,
so this was right before Christmas. So I finally got
that submitted right after Christmas. So now I'm down to,
you know, just a couple of days before New Year's

(49:16):
when everything's closed again, and was able to get it approved.
All right, great, Now I need to schedule a a
permit or an inspection for the walls that were moved.

(49:37):
And they came in and they're like, all right, yep,
you're good framing inspection. And when they first thing that
I was told by the inspector was just so you know,
this is just a formality, cover our ass kind of thing.
All right, great, it's great thing to tell me as
soon as you walk in my door for a permit
that I've been waiting on three months. Granted, I'm very

(49:59):
lucky I was able to get my permits approved as
fast as I did, even though it was crazy, because
there are I've heard some other horror stories of people
trying to open a business and it's taking a year
year and a half, so I'm very grateful that it
was able to be finalized. But to hear that was
just crazy. Inspector comes back up and he's like, yeah, man,

(50:22):
you really didn't need this inspection, or you didn't need
this inspection.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
You don't really want to hear when you've waited this long.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Yeah, And I told him to his face. I was like,
I was told initially by my contractors and my engineers,
I didn't need this permit because this was not a
structural wall. It was just a partition wall. And he
stopped for a second, looked up. It's like, you have
a drop ceiling, which means that there's nothing structural for sure.

(50:49):
The wall is not even going up to this drop ceiling.
He's like, yeah, you didn't need this permit. You didn't
need this permit at all. So that wow. Yeah, that
had me a little frustrated, a little motivated to get
everything else done. So I got everything done. Now we're

(51:10):
in the new year and waiting to get the final
inspection for the walls and final inspection for the plumbing
because all the issues were fixed and I couldn't paint
finish painting the walls until the drywall was inspected, and
so the inspectors came in and one of the plum

(51:31):
the plumbing inspector had told me that he also does
finals and stuff, and so while he was there, I
was like, Okay, while you're in here, I just wanted
to ask if there's anything while you're walking around that
you see like that won't cause me not to pass
my inspection tomorrow, I would appreciate it. Well, instead of
doing that, he called up a buddy and had his
buddy come in that day to give me my final

(51:52):
buildout inspection. So very thankful.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Ray of hope, yeah, put of sunshine.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Yeah, a little bit of sunshine, Charlie fox Trot. Yeah.
So because at this point I had already had beer ordered, yeah,
sitting in a cooler, and so I was like, all right, great,
So now I'm just plugging away getting everything done. And
as anyone who has been in Charlie Foxtrott can tell you,
what Charlie Foxtrott was the day that we opened to
where it is now is exactly what I thought was

(52:20):
going to happen. Was I needed to get everything done
to pass inspections to be able to open the doors
and get people in and I will beautify it afterwards.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
It seems like, I mean, we just went in there recently,
and it seems like it's it's coming along. It's what
you would expect of a new business. It looks great
as soon as you walk in anyways, but it's just
one of those things where it's an ongoing process. And
I think that's probably true with most new small businesses
when they open. Like you said, you just need to

(52:51):
get the doors open and get people in the doors
so that the products you've ordered and everything that you've
already invested can be used and appreciated and enjoyed. So
it's good. I mean, it's good that way. I really
couldn't tell after hearing your story. I wouldn't be able
to look at your store and see like, oh, that's

(53:12):
how much you know what I mean. Without knowing the backstory,
it just looked like, oh cool, this new brewing place
just like fell out of the sky, really cool.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
And it's frustrating at times because there's people, and it's
typically not people that live here full time, tourists that
come in and I've had probably five ten people walk
out the door because they ask, oh, which one of
these do you make? Well, we don't make anything yet.

(53:43):
And before I can even go into telling them the
story and the plan, they respond with, oh, I just
wanted I only go to breweries that have their own beer,
or you're not really a brewery. I can get this
stuff anywhere, did.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
You know what? Though, those aren't your people. And so
the thing about it is is like I'm very much
of the mind set that if something's meant for me, cool,
but if it's not, get it as far away from
me as possible. So those people walking out the door
are doing you a favor because they're not meant to
be there in the first place.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
And that's okay, absolutely, And that's one of the things
where like if someone sells me that I'm not I
just say my breath. I'm not going to give them
the story of Hey, actually, you're not going to find
this beer anywhere else in town because I specifically go
out of my way to get beer that is not.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
There in Charlotte County. Fine, yeah, I've I had a
good talk with one of your folks recently when I
went in the first time about the brands of beer
that I absolutely love that even though one is one
gets sold here, maybe two of them get sold here.
They come in such a limited quantity, like you can't
even get your hands on it. By the time you

(54:47):
even know it's been released and you go to the store,
they'll tell you they're sold out, meaning the employees are
probably hoarding it, because we've actually seen that happen at
some point some liquor stores, not in Charlotte County, to
be fair, but we've seen that happen before, where if
the employees like it, they'll tell you that they don't
have any in stock, and then you're just out of

(55:08):
luck anyways. So so no, I can appreciate that you're
bringing in other stuff because there are other brands that
I really love that you can't even get in the
state of Florida that I'm I'm hoping you can change,
but I won't hold it against you. If you can't,
I'll still come in and drink beer.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Well, Nick, First, I want to say thank you for
your sacrifice and service to take Like I said, it
takes a lot of energy and creativity and a lot
of determination to take a a dream into a physical concept,
and then after delay, after obstacle, obstacle obs you finally
get it done. So me the paydays when you say

(55:48):
we're opening like going beer time. But a couple of
questions we wanted to ask you is for our listeners
in America who need to come visit you in portraitout Florida,
what aesthetics of Charlie Fox Shot Brewery the actual location
makes it so special?

Speaker 3 (56:07):
Yeah? Well, I mean, as most people do when they
walk in for the first time, they walk in and
on the left hand side they see the wall of
Beart Forwards or our Beer Forward wall, and each wall
part of that wall as a section dedicated to each branch.
One of the things that I gained from my investment

(56:29):
in the other brewery was that they do this thing
called Beurrett Forward and they use sticky notes. Well, being
in the military, that's not very I appealing. So I
wanted something a little bit more dress, right dress, and
a little more tidy. And I also wanted to make
sure that I was honoring each of the branches even
though I served in the army. You know, we're all
brothers and sisters here, and so that's what I did.

(56:52):
So we did that, and that's what you'll see. You know,
we have the first five branches up. Space Force doesn't
have a spot on the wall yet. Sorry, guys working
on it.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
It's coming.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
But we do have their flag, yes they do. On
the right hand side of the wall. We have a
large logo with each of the six branches now in
the American flag up and so you'll see instantly that
this is dedicated to the military first.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
Responders, definitely.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
And I've had the pleasure to patronize your establishment a
couple of times. But one of the things I discovered
and found very interesting and enlightening that the only TV
in the place is the menu board right and and
folks amanded myself have been there a couple of times.

(57:44):
There's no need for a TV there. You got forty
or fifty people. I was introduced to a game called Yuker.
I'm not going to embarrass myself. I'm not going to
bury myself in the first ten or twelve games before
I even catch window how it's actually played. But there's
constant conversations from multiple generations of veterans, and for me,

(58:06):
that's that's the whole concept of veteran family. And the
topics are varied from table to table, and in the
back there's actually a meeting room. And one of the
things I fell in love with in the military with
the electronic golfing game. Let me tell you something, folks.
There as many days and hours I can lose at

(58:27):
that terminal with a couple of buddies of mine, But
I fell in love with it because it became a
place a person convers have a conversation about many topics,
many topics and things. You can go in the back
have a private conversation, and it felt it felt safe
for me, and like you had to allude to earlier

(58:48):
your origin story, you found a place, had a couple
of beers, and people were able to talk about the
warmed up, to talk about well, what's what's what's going
on with you?

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Yes, shoes that maybe people don't really talk about but
need to.

Speaker 4 (59:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
And one of the things that I'm very thankful for
so far is that bar top there has seen laughs,
but it's also seen tears, yes, and not your normal tears.
And people that have told me that they have our
lifelong Legion members and started sharing stories that at the

(59:27):
end of them have told me that I never would
have been able to do this there. I have not
been able to feel this comfortable and this was their
first time in.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Yes, and I'll attest to and again, there's nothing wrong
with better organizations because I'm a member of a bunch
of them, But that comes to a point in time,
and I'm being real here. You must feel comfortable to
share some stuff, and I will say that I love
my better organizations, but there is, unfortunately, there's an atmosphere

(01:00:00):
which I don't feel comfortable sharing certain things about me
or anybody.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
When you go to Charlie.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Foxtrop, I don't know if the hops in the beer
or the air that I'm breathing, but there's an air
of complete and utter camaraderie and judgeless ness, which basically
means there's no it's a no judgment zone and only
there you can kind of bear all. I mean, that's

(01:00:27):
the first place I met four MP's in one place
in a very very long time for myself, because grand
peace and I I'll leave that right down the floor.
But the fact of the matter is I got the
sense of healing the minute I walked through the door.
And that's how I I mean off the rip. Well,
I think it's like maybe two minutes you see Nick

(01:00:48):
going behind the bar, going to back getting beer, going
back ten in the bar and I said, Hey, who's
the owner of this place? And you're it and we
kind of exchange stories, and I said, no, this is
I'd be a rally point one where if you're a
veteran in the area, you need to come to Charlotte
County and you need to come to that place because

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I'll guarantee you because you'll come with your expectations. You
have a couple of crafts. All of a sudden, you're
closing the place down with new friends that you just met.
And that's what it's all about. And that's why I
miss about the military. Making new acquaintances and know it
they remember your freaking name. It will be the next years.
But Tarlia Fox Trot, I have high hopes for it. It

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is a high potential for a brother.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
You have hope that you'll walk through the door and
people will be like Jay, just like on chairs, they'd
be like, no.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
If we can make if I if I live in
a silo, and I it's kind of touching tongue in cheek.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
Why I mean the silo.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
I'm very jaded about what I share And like I said,
a lot of things came out in the first two
or three trips to Tario Fox Trot, and it was reciprocated.
It's not you know, you're sitting there and blah blah blah,
and it's like there's a gearst a watch. It fits
into a story, a bunch of people talking at at
the bar, at the bar in the back, complete comfortable,

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comfortable ability to share some really sensitive stuff and the
opportunity for that to actually be shared with other veterans.

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
That's that's priceless. Oh yeah, And since we're all worried
about and I say, my priority is that suicides are
at forty four percent forty four per day per veterum.
And the reason why it is because we feel isolated.
And if you're able to kind of tap into that
and to kind to.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
I call it a pressure valve.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
If we can release that pressure, hopefully at that moment,
we can get what that soldier or that veteran needs
in that particular time so that we can actually, uh,
you know, do what we're supposed to do lower the
number of suicide and your place, bro. That's that's that's
that concept is physically manifestated in Tario foxtrot and like

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I said, the name itself and for those who don't
und show what Charia fox shot is when things mess
up and unusual, but you want to know something, it's
something in a place where we all accept it and
it's you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
Embrace it absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
And you move forward. It's like embracing the socke.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
It's going to suck anyway yourself was, get through it
and fix it exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
It's like the military phonetic alphabet version of what some
of you might know as a cluster. Yes, so we'll
leave it at them. Yeah, Yeah, that's it's interesting how
you know through the name, even though you did have
a pretty hard fought path to get to opening. Now
that you're open, there is Yeah, there's definitely a great environment,

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a wonderful vibe inside of your establishment that I hope
other people will want to come and experience too, because
it's real, it's tangible, and it's just it's a great
place to come hang out. It's also family friendly, correct,
So for those of you listening, if you're like, oh,
we'll I have kids or whatever, bring the kids. They
can hang out. There are games for them to play.

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I saw Connect four. Sorry, Like there's all kinds of
games on a shelf up against the wall. There's shirts
you can buy, there's just there's all kinds of cool
ways that you can plug into Charlie foxtrot which is
kind of the best part about it. But as we're
kind of winding down, running out of time a little bit,
there's a lot more that we want to talk to
you about. So we will certainly be having you on

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the show again in the near future to discuss some
of your recent events and some of your stuff that's upcoming.
To help get the word out for folks so they
can know what's going on at Charlie Foxtrott and how
they can plug in and engage. So, Nick York, thanks
again for being on this show. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Thanks welcome resource to come back here anytime.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Absolutely, and we will certainly have you on this show
start to your future success.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Yeah. So yeah, we're looking at seventeen hundred Tammy and
the trail.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
We're sweet a five in Port Charlotte next to the
Bingo in the corner.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
Yeah, brand next Dingo if you're driving down forty one
behind the batteries plus talking about their hurricans.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
Yeah, the parents, good power flush