List With Chris:: Learning to pronounce tough sports names

List With Chris:: Learning to pronounce tough sports names

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Who are the five greatest athletes of all time? Who's
the worst player to ever deliver an iconic sports moment?
Who's the least athletic looking athlete in history. It's time
to rank the best and the worst that sports has
to offer. Let's dive in to lists with Chris.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Here we go, It's time to do it again, Lists
with Chris. And my good friends Chris Beckham and Craig
Steven said they joined me every week to do list
with Chris, and it's always a lot of fun. So
this week this is in honor of the biggest college
football game of the week. It is Oklahoma at home
against Tennessee and Tennessee's star quarterback he is all right,

(00:49):
here we go. This is the reason for the category.
Nico Ia Maleyeva. There you go. That's the star quarterback
for Tennessee. You mus as well learn how to pronounce
it because he is a superstar. He maybe win the Heisman.
So got us thinking other people where you just had
to learn how to pronounce their names. And maybe by
now it seems like, of course we know how to
pronounce that person's name, but it's because we've done it

(01:11):
so many times. But here we go in honor of Nico,
you better learn how to pronounce his name, Chris, Who
did you have to learn how to pronounce his name?
In the world of sports?

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Well, there's some folks about on the three or four
hours east of you that wish they did not know
how to pronounce dj oua Angola lea.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Unfortunately they have. But that was and of course it's
made a little easier this time around, because you know,
he was a Clemson and everything. But we kind of
learned a little bit then. But it still takes me
a second before I.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Say it, that's for sure. Yeah, we'd rather not say it,
all right, Craig, what's your starter?

Speaker 4 (01:50):
All right? This is two brothers who played at San
Diego State in the nf and in the NFL, although
one of them became much more famous outside of sports.
That is Kabir and Akbar Baija b Amela Uh. Kabir
Bija b Amila was a Pro Bowl defensive lineman with
Green Bay Packers. Bar played briefly in the NFL with

(02:12):
a few teams, but has gone to be much more
famous as the host of a Ninja American Ninja Warrior,
The Weird thing about it is Kaber spells his name
with a hyphen between the baja and the b amla,
but Abar has no hyphen one word. It's strange. I
don't know why that is, but it is. And they're
both they're both American, were born in Los Angeles, but

(02:36):
their parents are Nigerian.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Ackbar is also the uh co host of the Talk
Daily CBS at one o'clock. So you have it, and
he's on the I just saw this week. He's on
the NFL network too now like every day.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah, yeah, if you yeah, I wouldn't have put it.
I'm surprised you would know about daytime TV. Randy, I
know very much of it.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
It's sort of my thing. It's sort of my fiel.
All right, here's one like Tennessee's quarterback that now you
just know how to say it, but you didn't for
a long time, and that is to a tongue of
Ilo and his brother Taliah. But you know, people know
how to say it now, but forever we did not
know how to say that. And so that's why I'm

(03:17):
going to go with the brothers.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Yeah you know, of course, Uh, well, they had the
language barrier too. When he just came down damage. The
funny thing is that, you know, it's almost like people
cheat though, because you know, people said dju or they'll
just call him tua. Uh. You know, with Kabir Baji
Bmila they called him kg B, which is kind of
a catchy nickname. Yeah, but uh, you know, still you

(03:39):
do at least have to know how to spell them
if you're going to write it. So I remember several
years ago, and it may be when he passed away,
but I remember seeing a uh somebody talking about the
great soccer star Haele and they were talking about how
his name had been mispronounced over the years, Plea or
Plea or whatever. But he was saying, it's always been Peley,
the proud son of the country of brideseal I don't

(04:05):
want to play, didn't how to play, Brondel.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
The country and now we all know Peley. But you know,
I'm sure for years that that was not something that
that was just right when you saw.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
It, you know, to say, yeah, that's a good point. Great.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Yeah, you know, there's there's some of these that are
just difficult because they're in another language and you have
to kind of sound it out or whatever, or even
you know, some of them they have sounds in them
that you don't think are supposed to be there. And
then you have some that you look at and you
think it's one way, and then you hear it and
it's totally different.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
The great uh NHL goaltender Patrick Wah is oh why
it is not Patrick Roy? It is Patrick Wah. Because
of this.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
French I could figure out to say and lockfully and
ain't Wah.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Promise I got I've got a I got two here
on my list that I because I was a big
card collector when I was a kid, you know, baseball cards,
basketball cards, football cards, and so I learned a lot
of sports from those cards, including the catcher for the
Oakland A's Gene Tanachi. I thought that was Gene Tanachi.

(05:15):
And in fact then I was watching a game and
it was Gene tennis. But te n a Ce is
tennis and not Gene Tanachi. Yap pro didn't have that
Gene to Nazi. I'd go watch him to a magic act,
sure yeah, why not?

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Or the musical stylings of Gene Tanachi.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Sure yeah, he comes up with comes up the great Tanazi.
Much for you.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
By the way, his first name is actually Fury if
you are, y, I hope I'm pronouncing that right for
the category. All right, Uh, Chris, you're next up. Athletes
you had to learn how to pronounce their name.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Well so and this guy we still just pronounced it,
I think, but you know, uh, and he's played in
the league about ten years, but quarterbacks, I've always part
of Tyrod Taylor, but it's to Rod. And when they
asked him about it, he's like, hey, the way you
names pronounced something might make it. I mean that I mean,
but he just I mean, he's always said, I mean,

(06:21):
I've always heard it pronounced Tyrod, and he's just I
guess I life enough guy or just doesn't care to
correct anybody. But when somebody, I guess somebody heard about
it and they said, is your name really pronounced Tod's
Yeah whatever, Yeah, a couple like that.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Terrell Owens is that way too. It's Terrell, not to Rell,
even though so many people named Terrell.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Spell it, you know, yeah, but he's never going about it. Greg.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
Well, this guy is obviously one of the most famous
baseball players in history, and very famously because of his
unusual last name that people I don't know that they
really learned how to pronounce it, or they just shortened it.
But that's Carl, yes, you know, and it is even
though he goes by Yeaz, his name is not spelled

(07:07):
ya z. It's y A S t r z E
M s k. I.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, we had to learn how to pronounce that one,
that's for sure. All right, I'm going to go with
another guy that I had from my card days, my
card collecting. I thought I knew this guy's name, and
then I was watching an Oakland Raiders game and the
offensive guard they said was named Gene Upshaw and I
was like, Gene starts with the EU. I didn't know that.
And of course his name was Eugene on the football card,

(07:36):
but his name was genees I had to figure that
out as a very young kid. So I will, I'll
throw him in there.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
So we're we're, uh, you know, we're adding a degree
of difficulty to these when it's just the most people
had trouble with the people who are.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Who had never known anybody with an exotic name like Eugene. Yes,
what did they just naming Jim like everybody else? What
are we doing? Yes? All right, I'm done with those
kinds though. All right, Chris, what'd you get?

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Well, I'm gonna throw one more of that piles in
because but it's a great point because growing up there
was no internet, there was no fifty thousand TV channels,
So there is a good chaine she might not hear
Gene Nache's name actually pronounce until you know further along. Well,
it's the same thing, U if you go reading wrestling
magazines and you know, if the guy didn't wrestle in

(08:30):
your territory, you didn't mean he was never you never
heard his name, and so I always thought, you know,
a Mexican wrestler, the great mil. I thought it was
mil miss my scarage or something. I said, Well, I
can't take some of the fun out of it. But
because you've never heard it pnounced anywhere, so he's read it.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yep, yep, this is a this is an old timer
thing for sure. Uh what you got correct?

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah, this is another person who is extremely famous, but
it took a while for us to how to pronounce
his name, and most of us, some of us still
don't know how. But that is Yiannis Ante t Coumpo,
the Greek freak which Ante Tokumpo is not a Greek name.
He is. His parents are Nigerian, but he was born
and raised in Athens, h and it has his name

(09:16):
kind of has an extra M or an extra N
or something in there, so it's you know, it's not
fanatic at all, but you just you know. And again,
there are videos of him show telling people how to
say his last name, but I think most people just
call him the honest craig.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
I had that one, and you wouldn't believe I didn't
have an M or a N anywhere in how I
wrote it, so you wouldn't believe how I spelled it.
But I do know how to pronounce it. Yeah, but
I didn't have any of those letters in there. This
next one is tough because it's a tongue twister, which
maybe while we've gone with the nickname for the current
New Orleans Saints player Jacquincy McKinstry kool Aid McKinstry, who

(09:55):
plays for the Saints now played for Alabama, but I
can remember many times getting to know who he was
and trying to say Jue Quincy McKinstry, which is really
hard to say. We'll just go with kool aid for him,
but he falls into the category. All right, Uh, Chris,
let's do athletes you had to learn how to pronounce
their name.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Well, I guarantee you this is one that you wouldn't
look at it and get it on first shot. Most
people would not. But San Francisco fullback Kyle used Check
has about He's like, he's got a bunch of ease
and K's in there and by looking at it you
and you don't gonna come up with us check until
you hear it. But but so it sounds simpler, much
simpler than it than it reads. I guess I like it.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yeah, same along the same lines. San Diego Padre, San
Francisco Giants backup catcher in the seventies and eighties, Doug
Goose It's g W O S d Z and his
nickname was I Chart. I love it.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
That's a great one. That's a good one. All right, guys,
yell it out when you know the what What? TV?
Theme song? This is my favorite friend, Alice, Alice is
the show. All right, here we go. Polly Holiday, the

(11:18):
most famous graduate of the University of Maunavala Go Falcons
was was Flow on that show right, famous for saying
kiss my grits. But to me, she was more famous
for mispronouncing an athlete's name. I don't think you guys
will get it. Do you want to give it one
shot of who it was.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
It's not Roger, that's w r. Oh.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
That's a good one too. Yeah, it's not that I
don't know. It's not that this is a person who well,
I just go ahead and give it to you. It
is Joe garagi Rola, and she was very famous for like, oh,
Joe Rola came in, so she mispronounced it. And I
think I knew how to pronounce Garagiola, but she must

(12:00):
pronounced a lot and so I'm thrown in him.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
You know, I've heard that one two ways too, Like
you said it like garage Yola, but I've also heard
it garret Yola. I don't really know what's correct.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Well, it ain't Garagiola. I guarantee you.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
That Flow didn't have it right.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
I'll give you that.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
So anyway, there you go, Flow, and Joe Garagiola is
the next one. All right, Chris. We're doing this in
honor of the Tennessee quarterback, who is, of course, Nico
he Maleeva, the quarterback for Tennessee. You had to learn
how to pronounce his name.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
I'm still kind of mad at myself for not getting
Alice before Craig. That's that's in my wheelhouse.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
You're kicking yourself for nothing, Chris, Yeah, that's your favorite sport.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Well, this is This is a famous one because he
changed how it's pronounced. Of course, Joe Heisman, who was
Joe Thievesman and when there's another name, he changed his
name to rhyme with Heisman in hopes of maybe winning Heisman,
and it almost almost did. Simnaney finished the second the
jimplunk it, so it almost worked.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Of course, he was never known by anything other than
Joe Eisman during his NFL career, but at one time
he was Joe Eastman.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yep, for sure.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
We mentioned DJ willing Al at Clemson. Also in the
early eighties, they had a kicker named Donald Igwayek who
was Nigerian went on to kick for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
and Ray Perkins had so much trouble pronouncing his name
that he would often refer to him as Donald Kicker.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Oh man, here's one that I heard mispronounced today, and
I heard it all over the weekend. It's the star
for the New Orleans Saints. It is Alvin Kamara. It
is like the Chevy. It's like the car. Everybody, just
give us through your head. It's like car. His name
is Alvin Camara, like the car. It is not Camara

(14:05):
like most people still tend to calling that, even though
he's one of the best players in the NFL. We
should get it right. Alvin Camara is what his name is,
all right, Chris, what.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
You call CAMARAOW?

Speaker 2 (14:16):
No, I know, but the way I you know, in
my head, I just have to say before I say
his name. He's like the car. He's like the Chevy.
There you go, That's what I got, Chris. What you got?

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Another NFL running back for a NFC South team. And
I didn't know this until later on, but not Cordourell
Patterson corderol Oh yeah, yeah so and it was I mean,
he was into his career before I guess I heard
the connect the correct pronunciation though.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
Ready you talk about thinking Gene Tennis was Gene Tanachi.
Uh from seeing it on a baseball card, there was
a player I thought his name was totally different from
hearing it on WTVS for the Braves in the early eighties,
and that is Pasqual Perez p A s c u
A L. But when my nine or ten year old
self heard it the first time, I thought they were

(15:10):
calling him fastball Perez, you know, because he threw hard,
he was a great pitcher. He was called fastball Perez.
The this thing hasaal Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
So here's a guy, current Alabama football player who has
changed the pronunciation of his name since he got there,
and that is not Jaheim but Jehime Otis, defensive lineman
who decided after he got to Tuscaloosa that my name
is Jehim j A H E I M and big

(15:43):
guy from Mississippi and decided his name is Jehim Otis.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
Did at a chance of spelling two? Yeah, I made,
he made, he may.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
He may that You may be right about that? Yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
Reminds me of Bosship Marcel Darius. The whole time he
was at Alabama, he Marcel Darius. And then he went
to the NFL and they started calling him Darius, and
everybody wondered if they were just messing up his name,
but no, that's how he pronounced his name, and he
just never told him anybody.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
I had that on my list. I had him on
my list. Yeah, that's okay, that's all right, Darius Darius
is his name?

Speaker 4 (16:16):
All right? Chris?

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Who you got? You had to learn to pronounce their
name in the world of sports, you know, a.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Lot of these guys are I guess females if we've
had a female, are not quite that famous because of
they're famous. You hear it enough that it becomes you know,
and this is just really difficult. But this is an
exception because most of you still don't call him Dirk Novitski,
which is the pronunciation is still usually Dirk Dewitzki at

(16:42):
least what I hear, but it is this is a
beast I even though.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
It's stilled with a W.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
I had him, yep.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Great another baseball player, pitcher for the New York Yankees
about I don't know, fifteen twenty years ago, and his
last name was spelled W A M G. But it
was not Wang. It was Wong, Jim Ming Wong and
led to one of the great New York newspaper headlines

(17:08):
when he was trying to take a rotation spot away
from Jared Wright. If winning is Wong, I don't want
to be right.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
That's good. Here's one that's a little different, because everybody
knows that. I think we learned pretty quickly. A keem olajuwon.
But then, do you guys remember he added an H
to the front of his first name and people started
calling him Huckem. But he never changed the pronunciation of
his name. He just added the H. It's always was

(17:42):
and still is. Akeem Aliju won just because he added
the H. I don't know why you want to add
a silent letter, but he did and he is still
a Keem ala Juan, not Huckem. So there you go.
In Elijah won. Maybe we had to learn how to
pronounce that too, but we're long past that, all right, Chris,
what'd you got.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Well? Because defensive tackles you usually don't get a lot
of pooblist and that's probably why it's not a lot
of people still pronounce that hellodi. The correct finistage is na,
so because there's a G and they're n g, a
lot of people say nagata or something like that, But
Hellodi nada is the crypt pronunciation of the very good
Ravens defens a tackle.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, I've got some silent letters on my list for sure.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yep, yeah, Greig, this is this is another name I
saw on a football card when I was about ten
years old and had no idea how to pronounce it.
And then he became a pretty big gun player with
the forty nine ers, so you learned how to pronounce it.
And that is Manu Tuyasa Sopo. Oh, nice defensive lineman
who led went to the U and kind of launched
a kind of a mini dynasty, I guess you could say,

(18:47):
because his sons, Marcus and Zach both played in the NFL.
His son Matt was a baseball player, is actually the
third base coach for the Atlanta Braids right now. And
then I think it's his nephew is the He is
Roniah To famous for catfishing. Oh wow, yeah, yeah, Now I.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Just feel like I know that name to Yosa Sopo,
like you know, it's like smell to me. But yeah,
back then, it was like a big deal to learn
how to pronounce to yo. Yep, for sure, here's one
that either he or his teammates intentionally tried to make difficult.
This is a guy who pitched for basically every team
in the major leagues. And that is Jim k a

(19:32):
A T. Kitty Kott. His nickname is Kitty. They called
him kitty like cat, so naturally you think his name
was Jim Kat kitty Cat, but no, it's actually Jim Kott,
so the nickname throws you off air. Kitty Kott should
be kitty cat. All right, Chris, what you got?

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Yeah? I didn't know how to pronounce this one until
king And played for the Atlanta Halks. That's the point
guard Dennis shrewdernis Schroder because it's stilled like the peanut character.
I guess that's why most people would jump to that first.
But it is he is German and it is Shrewder,
which sounds a little, uh, a little more German.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
I guess he's also got one of those crazy little
marks on his name too.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Right, Yeah, there you go, Lau the two, the two.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yeah, he's got one of those. Uh.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
This is another French language person. And if you just
saw her name on the screen or on print, you
would not know it. But it is the age of Silent.
That is Justine Enna. Yeah, and then she got married
and she was justin na Arda is also a silent.

(20:47):
A bunch of silent letters.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, Craig. Craig took the tennis from me.
I like it. I like it, No, I like it.
Here's a guy that I think he thought nobody would
ever say his name again, former Alabama point guard Rettin Obasahan, Greg,
you remember him. Rettin Obasahan, in a down era for
Alabama basketball, was like their best player for a little while.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
He still plays in Europe somewhere. And you know, if
you follow the Alabama Pro Updates Twitter account, he's always
tweeting about Retin o Basahn because he's like one of
the best players in whatever league he's playing.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
The Yeah, Retin Obasah, he was good. He didn't have
a lot of help. He didn't have a lot of
help on those teams. But Retin Obasahan makes the list.
All right, Chris, we're doing athletes that you had to
learn how to pronounce their name.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Well, I don't listen. I'm not a language expert, obviously,
but I still in any language, I don't know how
you get out of young h Oe Ku the Falcons kicker,
you get young way Co I mean ho is Way.
I mean, I mean, I'm not a linguist, but I

(21:58):
just I don't know how to get that anyway, that's
the name young Way.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
I have always found it strange when it's a language
with a different alphabet, like the Asian languages or Russian
or whatever it is, where they don't just make it phonetic.
Why does it have to be you know what I mean?
It's really weird when you translated into English. You should
just make it phonetic, but they don't do that. This
is a one whose name is kind of comical if

(22:25):
you mispronounce it, but it's really not, especially if you
see it on the back of a jersey, and that
is a long time NHL goaltender mirror slav Shaitan, but
it is spelled sat a n and you think it
was Satan.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
You know.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
It became a very popular jersey when he was playing
for the Buffalo Sabers with Satan on the back.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Of the jersey.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I'll go back to when I was a kid again.
I'll go with Craig's uncle, Telefelo Stevenson, the boxer who
became souper famous every Olympics for boxing for Cuba. Telafilo Stevenson.
That's just fun to say, anyway, Tefilo that's his name, Chris,
what'd you got?

Speaker 3 (23:10):
I think this guy played for the Saints. Shall can
create me if he didn't. But the NFL player Pearson Prelo,
who had every vowel in his last name. Yeah, they're
all five of them. But that it was it looked
like Prelu or something. But Prelo, as I said, and again,
that would not be my first gift.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
Another NFL player, another Polynesian guy, and it's it's one
that you just had to kind of sound out. And
it was really long on the back of his jersey
full back to the Pittsburgh Steelers, Chris Fuamatu Mafala.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
That's tough.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yeah, that was tough.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
All right, here's one. And we could still argue about
this one because he was a good shortstop in the
major leagues and then went on to be a better manager.
I think we would say. And I'm always I'm still
confused about this because of Tony Kubiak saying that the
White Sox shortstop was Ozzy Gagin. Is it Ozzy Gagin

(24:09):
or is it Ozzy Gian What do you guys say?
But Tony Kubiak trying to act like he was all smart,
Tony kupak Lern. How to pronounce him, not Gary, Yeah,
Tony Cooper pronounced it Ozzy Gagin.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
I think that's just kind of over emphasizing the Spanish. Yeah,
but because it's kind of you know, if you pronounced
it willly in Spanish, you kind of halfway have that
Jay saund in there, but no, it's g as far
as maybe, but no Jay in there.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Well that's that's what he called him. You go back
and look, by the way, a little foreshadowing, My next
one is going to be uh, Tony Kuback, So go ahead, Uh, alright, Chris.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
What you got again? This is one that I think
people around the South may they may know it, but
in other parts of the country, until they learned it,
A lot of people will say because it has a
that Tyrann Matthew, but it's Tyrone Matthews pronounced. But the
a kind of throws you off.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Little Bill in the first name, that is a tough one.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
That's one you've got to hear somebody who knows say
it before you would have any confidence in what his
name was. For sure. Yep, Honey Badger.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
I think Chris mentioned this guy earlier, but we hasn't
been officially introduced, and most people just kind of gave
up on trying to pronounce his name. But that is
Mike Kryshevsky. You know, it looks like if you just
say it looks like Krzewski, but it's shah Shevsky, which
again makes no sense. But to what it is mm hmm,

(25:52):
I'll go with a.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Little Auburn basketball here, greatest shot blocker in program history.
It's not that complicated a name, but we had to
learn how to say it. Mama, do en joy Mama
do in jib Mama do. That's a good one.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
Yeah. Wasn't that one was said at Chris's wedding. Wasn't
that the fat mama I do what suggestion?

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, that was a call back
to a previous list of Chris. Yes, yeah, yeah, that's funny.
That's funny, Chris, what'd you got?

Speaker 3 (26:30):
You will never be able to convince me that missus
Wade uh meant to spell Dwayne Wade's name like she
did that. That's just somebody's one I spelled. God bless
her she. I mean, he's a great player and great guy.
But uh, but because that, you you have to just
stop from before. You say that it's pronounced dwayne. But

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just because she or somebody or maybe it's dad or
maybe the doctor, maybe just went to the hospital, or
maybe she meant to. I don't know, but just because
that's the usual wife before the aid. It didn't look
like Dwayne exactly.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
But undah, don't overthink it. It's just Dwayne. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
Every time I see it, I think Dwyanane in my head.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
You just gotta not think about it, just glance at
it as Dwayne.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
This is another one that's the same way, but it
was actually misspelled by the hospital, and that is Antwine Jamison,
the NBA player, and his name is spelled a N
T A w N, but it's pronounced and twan, but
the hospital misspelled it and they just never corrected it,

(27:35):
so he is. It's another one. If he just saw
his name, you think it's Anton, but.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
This is like a Joe. Thisman, it's it's Tony Dorset.
Tony Dorset. His name was Dorset. If you're old enough
to remember him as a great player with the Pitt Panthers,
it was Dorset. And then he gets to the Dallas Cowboys,
he decided he was Dorset, so I really fully adopted it.
I was like, that's not your name, but anyway.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
I never I kind of wondered what the what the
reason for the change was. And you know, there was
a defensive lineman in Mississippi State and I think played
in the NFL for a while, maybe as a coach
somewhere now named Dorset Davis. And he's Dorset, not Dorset.
But if you see it, you think it's Dorset.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
I think he just I think I've made him heard
him say this before that he just decided that he
was a big deal now. And Dorset just sounded way
more you know, worthy of a famous person than than
or you know, Dorset sounded better than Dorset.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
I don't know, I should just change his last name
to Sinatra or something.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Well, that could work, all right. Uh who we got next?
Did is Chris? What you got?

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yeah? Well, this is going to sound crazy. This guy's
first name is when I have trouble with and can't
remember because I've heard the last things so much, and
that's uh, Louis, Wu saysen the great golfer. But I
can't remember Lewis or Louis. That's how as strange as fans.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
I think it's Louis right, I think it is.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
Yeah, I believe it is.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
I believe it is. I believe that we need to
keep working on that one.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Apparently another really famous football player, and his name kind
of has an extraneous e in it, So if you
saw the first saw it for the first time, you
might not know that it has been Rothless Berger because
it looks like berger mm hmmm, because it's r O
E T h l I S b E r g
E R and that e is just kind of I

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guess it's asylo ne mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Here's one former teammate of Jim Cott Kent Herbeck had
some uh, you know, needed some vowels or something in there.
If you just I don't know how about you would
pronounce it. But it is a difficult It is one
of those difficult names where you're like, that does not
look like that should spell anybody's name. But ken her.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
Without a vowel, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
That was the winner that category. What what was the category, Chris, Oh, yeah,
oh that's what it was. Without a vowel that Yeah,
that was the winner for sure. All right, I'll go
with her back, Chris, how you got.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Uh? Yeah, the same thing. We didn't. We didn't quite
know how to pronounce Joe with Kim Noah, just because
it's a strange name and it's uh. I mean, I
guess you could spell with c H or whatever, but
it's just odd. So I think until he uh, until
you've heard all the time, you are quite sure how
to say it.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
If you were Canadian, you probably had no problem with
this guy's name. But if you're you know, grew up
where we grew up, he probably did not know. It
was ge La floor, not Guy the floor. And I
guess the opposite would be with the punter ray Guy.
Maybe people in Canada called him ray E.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
That's a good point. That's a good one. This is
one of those where somebody has to say it for
you or else you would not know how to pronounce it,
even though it's just three little letters that don't look
that hard.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
I got a golfer here that I really did have
to like work on this one, not not recently, but
back in the day. Jose Maria Ola fable, like where
to put the emphasis in that word is really hard
to figure out, right, But it's.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
The z is a th h t. That's the other
thing I think he is. He is Spanish and Spain.
The way they pronounced the z is like a thh,
like uh, Julio Iglesias. That's how he pronounces his own name.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
How do they pronounce it in Brazil?

Speaker 4 (31:40):
That's a great question, definitely, Chris, what do we.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Call what do we call?

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Pelea?

Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (31:53):
He has a name, right, But then he said Brazil.
I thought, well, I don't know anything.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
All bets are off.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
Now we pronounced how do we pronounce fred? That's what
I want?

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yes, all right, Chris, what'd you get?

Speaker 3 (32:09):
I would ask you about Chi lay or chili you
but this is just maybe the shortest name on this list.
But it's just a simple he pronounced it the way
he pronounced it. And that's former NFL kicker Robbie Gold,
which looks like but just pronounced gold. And you know,
Mama call him play. I call him play so he
can say that's a good call.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
That's a really good call. You think that's one you
don't think to ask because you think you know how
to pronounce it, and you're wrong. That's a really good one.
That's a very good great.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Former Auburn and NFL offensive lineman and another Nigeria of
Nigerian heritage, Prince Tega Woho. You have two names that
you kind of had to learn how to pronounce.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
That's really good. Here's one that's not that h doesn't
seem all that foreign to those of us on the
Gulf coast, and certainly as we head to the west,
it's not so. But a lot of people have a
lot of trouble with Bobby Abert. Bobby Herbert, you know,
but obviously if you're from Louisiana, your first guest would
probably be a bear. But Bobby Abert, a lot of

(33:14):
people had to figure out that was not Herbert. So
he's my latest one. All right, Chris, what actually got
in the category of I had to learn how to
pronounce his name?

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Yeah, right when he got to the league, before he
got famous. I don't know that I would have gotten
Kawhi Leonard on first gifts, but just start looking at it.
But like I said, it's not a hard one. It's
just once you hear a lot, it's easy. But on
first glance, why.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yes, I like it?

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Another Yeah, another NBA store of recent years, two time
MVP Nikola Jokic looks like Jokich and actually his nickname
is Joker.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Which is that hurt comte, Yes, that hurts. Yeah, that's
a tough one. Here's another one that's like, uh, you
talk about like the alphabet suit. What about g Wally
Zerbiak Zerbiak g Wally, g Wally like leaving the paper,
anybody name Wally. I call him g Wally, just like

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sugar Shane, sugar Shane anything.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
His name is not he didn't have like an S
before his name.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
No, I don't think so. I can look at up.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
There's that Oklahoma defensive lineman this year. His name is
like R. Malone something or other. What his name?

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (34:29):
I forget, but anyway, he has like three He has
an initial name R. Mason Thomas.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Oh there you go. Yeah, Yeah, I don't, I don't.
I don't trust him. But that has an initial, then
a name, h Ross Perot. That guy wasn't gonna be president,
I don't. I mean Gordon Lady. That guy was trouble
from the get go.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
I just don't believe in a letter and then a name.
I just don't believe in that.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Thomas.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
I'm telling you, Yeah, what sounds like a list, Chris Ketty,
It does.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
It definitely does it definitely definitely does all right? Uh,
I think that was me. I think it's you, Chris.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Uh. We not say it now, but I think I
would magine come it up, Albert Pooholes probably cast people
some problems, uh with the j in there. That's uh
that Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
I like it. I don't know if we ever had
trouble pronouncing this guy's name, but I think when we
saw it, we said, there ain't no way that's really
that guy's name. And that is a former Providence guard.
God sham god really God?

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yeah, yeah, here's a guy you had never heard of
this time of year ago, and now you know how
to pronounce his name. But for a short time you
had to learn about Tennessee basketball player Dalton Connect. Dalton
Connect who's now with the Lakers. Oh yeah yeah, And
we we pretty quickly learned it. But I remember I
read it before I ever heard it, and I wasn't

(35:58):
sure what his name was. U was Connect? Is his name?
Dalton Connect? All right, Chris, you got anything else another one?

Speaker 3 (36:05):
It's another Lakers player. My son told me it was
his first guest, and I still didn't know how to
pronounce it. He said, I said, you mean it's not
Ray John Rondo. He said, no one was Rob John Rondou.
I said, come on, I didn't have it right until
last night.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
See, we're trying to be educational here, trying to be educational.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
I think there have been a lot of baseball players
that this was the case. But I think the first
one I remember that was really a star that had
it on his jersey was Tony Penia with a little
till day over Tony Pena. Ronald thecunya Al says, our
Sedanio is another one of them Hall of famer who

(36:48):
I think they just kind of started pronouncing his name correctly.
Many menyoso. It is not Minoso, does minyoso.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
That's a tough one. That's a tough one, all right.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
That is our category people. You had to learn how
to pronounce their name. Is it in honor of the
current Tennessee quarterback who is terrific? His name is nico
Ia Maleeva. There you go. You need to learn how
to pronounce it, just like you did toung of Aloa
and it worked out fine. So now you know how
to say it. This kid is really good at Tennessee.
So that's our list. What do you guys think the
winner is?

Speaker 4 (37:22):
Yeah, I'm probably two kach k you know, I'm not
even gonna pronounce their names. That's what kind of feeds
into it.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
But tak yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Think any big sports fans know how to say it. Now,
the star for the Milwaukee Bucks. So let's go with him,
honest at Takoupo, Let's go with him. And we will
not go with Joe Garagiola of Alice fame, even though
we I think we certainly call it all right, that's
gonna do it for Chris Becka, Greg Stevenson. I'm Randy Kennedy.

(37:56):
It is list with Chris on Sports Talk ninety nine, folks,
because I'm.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
Getta gott a soul for nimescretion when you stand on
your boat to feet and as girls here to say,
with some love, lives gonna be

Speaker 3 (38:26):
So so