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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Who are the five greatest athletes of all time? Who's
the worst player to ever deliver an iconic sports moment?
Who's the least athletic looking athlete in history. It's time
to rank the best and the worst that sports has
to offer. Let's dive in to lists with Chris.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
We do it every week, one of our favorite segments
of the week, one of our more popular segments of
the week, List with Chris with Chris Beckham, the namesake
of the segment, and Craig Stevenson, my two buddies, and
I think we've got another good list for you guys again.
This week. We're going to do players who are very
closely associated with more than one team. So that could
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be more than one college team, more than one pro team, whatever,
but not like one college of one pro so not that.
But it's somebody who's associated with more than one team.
I'll give you an example of a bad answer. A
bad answer would be like Tom Glavin, who we all
know played for the Mets, but he's not associated with
the Mets. He's a brave that'd be That'd be a
terrible answer. So we're going athletes associated with more than
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one scene. That's what we're going for. What you got, Craig?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Coaches too, right, coaches as well.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Absolutely, we always include coaches there as always all right, Chris,
you always get the first choice as the visiting team.
What you got, oh, Mark, if you had Tom Glavin.
We're off to a rough start, Sir.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I did actually think about, but I thought, no, he
is a brave You're exactly right. Yeah, but uh, and
it seems like I always trend towards older athletes. I
wanted to. I wanted to start off with with somebody
who's turning. But I think if it's the category, and
I believe he won the starting job today, and that
is bow Nick, who sometimes I mean, now, this is
probably not for state of Alabama, I'll get you that.
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I think over there he is maybe still thought of
it as mainly as an Alburn Tiger. But you know,
in two years at Oregon he won one more game
that he won three years at Auburn. So I think
I think nationally people probably as to shape him more
as an Oregon up because they had a pretty high
profile run, certainly in last year and also but in
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twenty twenty two, and even though the family lineage and
all that at Auburn, I get, but I think I
think you could make it the case he's thought of,
you know, in Tifton, Georgia, where I lived, the popular
urban legend alest for sure or not that he could
have been a Tiff County Blue devil, because the story goes,
now I'm all about promoting a legend, be it true
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or not, is that there was an opening at tiff
County High School for a head football coach back about
ten years ago, fifteen something like that, and Conrad Nixon
contacted them and said, I'll come and be the defensive coordinator.
Of course, he's a legendary coach in Georgia, and my
son Patrick be the head coach. And by the way,
he's got his son as a freshman, he's gonna be
pretty good and very wisely sarcastically speaking.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, that's a bad move. I'd have done that. He
also had his younger brother was pretty good. He won
as good as as Bo, but he had another brother
that was pretty good. Yeah, they they should have done that. Chris,
you clearly understand the category, because that's as good an
answer as we're gonna come up with. I think Bo
Nix He's definitely an Auburn Tiger and definitely an Oregon
Duck Craig. What's you gonna start with?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Well, Tom Glavin does not qualify, but one of his
rotation mates. Does that mean? Greg Maddox with the Atlanta
Braves and Chicago Cubs. Started with the Cubs, won his
first cy Young Award with the Cubs, then went to
the Braves, won four straight cy Young Awards, and then
left as a free agent about ten years later and
went back to the Cubs, and you know, finished up
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I think with the Dodgers and the Padres, but well
known as both an Atlanta Brave and the Chicago Cubs,
so much so that when he went into the Hall
of Fame his cap is blank. He did not want
to choose between the two.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Oh you mean literally, I thought you were doing match
game right there, you're supposed to, I say, Dodgers. His
cap was blank.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Now if you look at his flight there is no
logo on it.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Oh man, well, I think Charles Deson Rawley would have
gotten that one, right. It's Braves. Yeah, it's yeah, that's
a good all right. I know both of you guys
had this on the list, But I'm gonna say it anyway,
it is the Alabama answer to Chris's suggestion, the Alabama
bo Nicks is Jalen Hurts, Alabama and Oklahoma. I mean,
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he came to the Senior Bowl. They had a helmet
with both logo or both designs for Alabama and Oklahoma.
The of course, now those are similar colors and everything.
But Jalen Hurts legend at Alabama, and you know, Heisman
finalist at Oklahoma. I think still probably associated more with
Alabama even though he finished up at Oklahoma. But maybe
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that's a that's a local bias here, I'm not sure,
but Jalen Hurts fits the category just like bow Knicks does.
All right, Chris, you're next up.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I think one of the leaders to win this category
would be Phil Jackson. Obviously, he's one more NBA titles
to any coach. Ever, of course, uh, he won eleven.
I think it's I think it's six with the Bulls,
five with Lakers, or maybe it's six and five. I
came there, which is swite. Yeah, sure, Chris, but he's
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I mean, he has thought of as the architect of
the of the Bulls dominance and what kept l A
together even with all the things with Kobe and and
Shaq and and.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
All of that.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I mean, he was the he was the architect behind
both of those. And uh, I think it is thought
equally will in both circles.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yep, I agree, Greig.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
I'm gonna go to another Auburn Tiger. This person not
only two teams, but two spoors both Jackson Los Angeles
Writers and Kansas City Royals.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
MM legend, we both legend with both. Yeah, Craig, I've
got the uh, I've got the older answer to your
Greg Maddox in that he was a legend, he went
to another team, became a legend, and finished and then
finished back up with the first team. And that is
Tom Terrific, Tom sever New York Mets legend, Cincinnati Red's legend,
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and then went back to the Mets with not nearly
as much success. But Tom sever when I say him,
you know, do you say Mets or do you say Reds?
You could you could go either way with him.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yeah, I still say Bets, But I understand what you're saying.
He was with the Reds for a good while. Yeah,
what five six years? Yeah, definitely, So.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
You're looking at all of it Craig from a from
a historical point, I'm looking at it that when I
learned who Tom sever was, he was a Reds legend.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
You know, yeah, I was. I was trying to think
about that, you know, of coase I'm a little younger
than you guys, and by the time I got into
baseball team and was already back with the Mets. So yeah,
like eighty three, eighty four, Yeah, there go.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Andy was an early legend with the Mets for sure.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
For sure.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yep, all right, Chris, you're next.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, this guy was successful with two teams, but his
persona was so different with both. I think it makes
it stand out even more. And that's the Dennis Rodman.
He was a great part of the Detroit you know,
late eighties, early nineties, very successful run two titles with them.
He was only in Chicago for three years. They won
championships all three years. And the Dnnis Robin with the
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Pistons was one hundred and eighty street different than the
dentist Ribblin with the Bulls. I mean it was the
painted hair and the crazy annex. And he really wasn't
like that with Detroit. I mean, he was very much
a Workman. Like you know, guy goes off the bench,
he gets much rebound. So I mean just almost like
two different players, although they were both the crazy iconic
Dennis Rodman.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
This is a not a basketball player. Might be three teams.
I'll get you guys to rule on it. But how
about Lebron James, Cleveland Cavaliers, Miami Heat, and Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yep, I had it.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
I mean all three. He had the best, the largest
amount of success in his career with the Heat, even
though he wasn't there as long as the other two
and obviously played for Cleveland twice and now with the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
No, I'll allow it on all three. I think all
three makes sense. I got a three way here for
you guys. And this is a This is current because
University of Alabama just announced their honorary captains for every
home game this year, and one of the honorary captains
is going to be for End of the Show Jackie Cheryl.
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I would say Alabama's like third on this list. When
I think of Jackie Cheryl, I think of Texas A
and M. I think of Mississippi State and oh yeah,
he played at Alabama too. But I think Mississippi State
and Texas and m qualifies him for the list. But
you got to say Bama a little bit too, since
he's honorary captain for the Tide coming up this season.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Obama's fourth behind Pits.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I mean, okay, you're right, but that you're right, Uh,
but yeah, I think he's strongly associated with with those
three where he was the coach, and then Alabama's kind
of fourth on this Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yeah, he never played, he never coached at Alabama. He
was just player there and he was and he was
just kind of I mean, he was just kind of
an average player. I think he started, but he wasn't like,
you know, all conference or anything.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah. I once rode an elevator with Jackie Cheryl at
a like a farmers Mississippi farmers convention, a cattle convention.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Don't have a Did he have a knife in his hands?
But no, I what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Oh absolutely absolutely. Where they had the famous bull castrating
at practice.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Mississippi State places Texas this year. I think it's in
Austin or maybe it's in Start Well, I forget, but
they do play them. They need to have Jackie Cheryl
out to be the coin toss for that game. I
don't know why they wouldn't, but.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Nothing more, nothing more than yeah, don't let him get
close to Beavo. All right, Uh, Chris you're next up.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, this one I think because of the gap in
time between the two teams. But I will with Bill Walton,
who I mean, he got known as the UCLA but
in the pros he want a championship with the Trailblazers
and was kind of a kind of was the iconic
person on that team. And then several not many years later,
but five or six years later, he joined the Celtics
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and was not a key member of that team, but
he but he was a contributing member of those cheamship
teams for a little while. It just got of a
different role. But uh, I would say, and you know,
the Trail Blazers, he really only had one great year
because of the injuries. But in seventy I guess the
sixth that they wanted. By seventy seven they wanted. But
but yeah, in a different way, I think a lot
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of people may associate him with the Celtics over the Trailblazers.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Great, this is another baseball player. He played a long
time with one team. Uh then went to an other
team and probably had the defining moment of his career,
what really probably got him into the Hall of Fame.
That's Jack Morris, Detroit Tigers, Minnesota Twins. You know, pitched
a long time for the Tigers and then went to
the Twins and won the World Series, obviously the famous
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Game seven against the Braves in nineteen ninety one. Do
you know how many years Jack Morris pitched for the
Minnesota Twins.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I think he's going to be short based on the
fact you're asking the question.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
It's one. He's been there that one year.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
That's short, and then it is.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
And then he went to the to the Blue Jays
after that, and actually won another World Series with the
Blue Jays. But you know, he's just so well remembered
for that really that one game, and he had a
great series overall. I think he won three games in
that World Series, but or at least two. But you know,
people think of him as a Twin. He was only
there one year.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
That is, yeah, because I would say Tigers first, but
I think he qualifies with because I certainly associated him
with the Twins as well. This guy right here is
associated with Florida State University and the Acolytes Protection Agency.
That's Ron Simmons football player in wrestler. I'll be honest
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with you. I had to look it up. I knew
he was a tag team wrestler, but I didn't know
what the tag team name was because for a while
it was just like Ron Simmons and Joe Smith. But
apparently in the WWF he was part of the Acolytes
Protection Agency, the APA. Ron Simmons defensive lineman for Florida State.
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All right, there we go. All right, Chris, we're doing
athletes that one really doesn't count athletes who are strongly
associated with more than one team at the same level,
like at two pro teams or two college teams, whatever
it is. Who you got, Chris.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
You could make the case that he is associated with
three teams. But what he will forever be known for
is fou, foe and foe, and that is of course
Moses Malone, who I'm a Hawks, you know, Georgia Hawks fan,
so and he had a little run with the Hawks
with most successful one I think known for is phill
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f seventy six ers where he won a title there
and then with the Houston Rockets, where he was a
two time MVP with the Rockets, but again he played
for Halts for three or four years. He played with
several other teams toward the end of his career, but
I think Moses thought of his first A sixer and
then the Eastern Rockets.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
True, yeah, I had him. He actually won the MVP
in back to back years with two different teams, which
is pretty uncommon.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
That's trust.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Yeah. This is another one that could be three and
potentially even four. Uh Deon Sanders with the Falcons, the
Cowboys and the forty nine Ers, even though he was
only kind of like Jack Morris. He was only with
the forty nine Ers one year, but he won a
Super Bowl and probably had the best year of his
career his one year with forty nine Ers. And then
if you want to consider baseball, you can also say
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the Braves, know, because he had had a pretty solid
run with the Braves, and you know, the Braves had
won the World Series ninety two against the Blue Jays,
he probably would have been the MVP. He had a
really great series. But anyway, he's at least three maybe more.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Here's one. You don't have to like the guy to
it made. It's a good answer. Kurt Shilling very famous,
one of the most famous players with the Diamondbacks, and
then of course the run and the bloody sock and
all that with the Red Sox. But I mean he
was probably even greater before he ever got to Boston.
I think he's still strongly associated with the Diamondbacks, but
of course with that run with the Red Sox and
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the bloody sock and was it blood or was it
catch up or whatever? I don't know, but Kurt Shilling,
I think does qualify.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
You know, I think the litmus test all these when
we were thinking about him as so you know, do
you think of him immediately as one of these teams?
And I kind of went back and forth on Mac Brown. Yeah,
number one Carolina twice and he's there now and had
certainly success his first run and you know, brought him
back here, but he was at Texas for fifteen years.
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One of that championship there. You know again, like you,
Kreig was Sawma with Greg Maddix, Matt Branders into the
Football Hall of Fame and he will you know, will
he be considered a longhorn or a tar heel and
maybe some of that is yet to be determined. Consider
now he finishes out his career in North Carolina.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
A lot of times, you'll a guy will leave one
team and go to another and win a championship, and
it will be like he was almost a missing ingredient,
you know that happened. And probably the ultimate example that
is Reggie White leaving the Philadelphia Eagles to get to
the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Good call, won.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
The Super Bowl there. You know, it was probably already
a Hall of Famer with the Eagles, but then went
to the Packers and kind of became an icon with
the way that they played, went back to that Super
Bowls in Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Reggie White has become a list with Chris Favorite. I mean,
he's he comes up almost every week, and he came
up last week with another guy who's gonna come up
again this week. I will go with Peyton Manning. Peyton
Manning with the Indianapolis Colts, but then Super Bowl champ
with the Denver Broncos. And I think the I think
the Bronco fans, you know, think he's a Broncho, even
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though I clearly think he's a cult but uh, you know,
I think he had two careers. One with the Colts
and one with the Broncos.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
I kind of wondered about that one too. To do
the Buccaneers fan claim Tom Brady in the same respect.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I don't think so. I don't think I think Brady's
just a Patriot, even though he won a Super Bowl.
I don't think he's a Buck, you know, I still
think I mean the Bucks are Ricky Beall, you know,
Leroy Salmon. I don't think they're I don't think they're.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Trying to be.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
The great Ricky Bill. Yes, that's all I'm wanna say. Yes, Chris,
what you got associated with more than one seam.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I think that this guy is should be associated more
than his first team, and that's Whey Jackson. I think
he's more thought of his Yankee because of and he
had success as a Yankee, but because of the Billy
Martin stuff, and he got more headlines as a Yankee.
But as an Oakland day he won, you know, three
world championships. I mean, he was an outstanding oak And
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for a longer time. I just think the cause of
you know, the controversy, yeah, you call it controversy with
the with the Yankees, he's more thought of than pinstripes.
But but he was a fantastic Oakland any place with
the place for the Angels for a few years as well.
But I could I think if he was as the
Yankee first, I'm part of that crowd, but uh, certainly
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a great Oakland Atlantic as well.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I kind of I kind of would vote Oakland a's though,
you know, I know it's close, but I would kind
of vote for the a's I think.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
And it was because it's New York as well. You know,
he won he won more championships in Oakland also, he
won threes there and only two in New York. Of
course he was there a lot longer. But yeah, when
I first kind of, like we were talking about earlier,
when I first became aware of Reggie Jackson, he was
a Yankee, but obviously he had a great rule with
the age as well.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I think he was already stirring the drink out on
the bay.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Yeah. Well, you know, when he signed with the Yankees,
he famously said at the press conference, I didn't come
to New York to become a star. I brought my
star with me.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Oh nice, that guy, that guy, he was ahead of
his time, wasn't he. I mean he would be a
bigger star today. Reggie Jackson. That's good stuff, man, that's
really good. All right, Craig, I think it's you.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Yeah, it is. Well, I'm gonna go to two coaching
and this is there have been a couple of people
who've succeeded at both levels. Uh, And I'm gonna say
Pete Carroll USC and the Seattle Seahawks won Super Bowl,
and you know, he coached some other teams as well,
but those were the ones he had. His greatest success
was he kind of left USC right as the posse
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was riding into town, but obviously went to Seattle and
had a really good run there as well. He just
retired apparently, or I read somewhere where he's going back
to USC and some kind of a consulting job or something.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah, he quote unquote retired when his key didn't work.
That's when he retired.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
He had. That happened on the same day as Nick Sabans,
I know, you know he and it says we just
don't remember it at all because it was the same
day as Savan I know.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I mean it was a huge national story just got
swallowed up in this part of the country for sure.
I got one for you here. One of the great
Pittsburgh Pirates of all time, Barry Bonds. Barry Bonds is
a pirate man, but you know, he had all his
greatness out in San Francisco. But that doesn't take away
the fact that he was a pirate.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah, he won two MVPs as a pirate, but he
was at the Giants like twice as long. Yeaheah, I
don't disagree with it.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not. I'm not voting for one over
the other. I'm just saying that the giant stuff doesn't
take away from the fact that he is will always
be a pirate legend. And also he looked like a
regular human being when he played for the Pirates too, Yeah,
which maybe that's why I think more fondly of him
as like the greatest player in the world for the
Pirates compared to what I think of him as the
you know with the Giants. Anyway, still one of the
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great players of all time, regardless of anything else. All right, Chris,
we're doing players or coaches associated with more than one team,
strongly associated with who you.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Got long and fascinating career. He had his number retired
by three teams and won a World his only World
Series with the fourth team, and that's Nolan Ryan. Won
a series with the Mets, but then uh, and it's
spent about equal number of years with the Angels, the
astrosan Rangers, number retired by all of them. Yeah, it's
just such a weird career. Of course, he led the
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major leagues and strikeouts sleven times twice in the as
the era leader. Never want to say young, which is
just amazing, getting total the Ryan, never want to say
any reward, but you could you could spread it. I
mean he picked from sixty six to ninety three, so
he just spread his career out among probably five more
teams you wanted to soon.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Well, I'm going to take the the kind of the
corollary to Nolan Ryan, and that's Roger Clemens as a
Red Sox and as a Yankee. Again had was his
best had his best success as a Red Sox, but
it had won championships as a Yankee. And I've seen
this stat before and I think you guys have as well.
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Nolan Ryan through seven no hitters and never want to
saw a young award. Roger Clemens never threw a young
no hitter and won seven about.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
And they're both Texans.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Yep, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
That's good. That's really Also Roger Clemens pretty good with
Toronto as well, Right, I mean, we don't associate with it.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Yeah, if you want to be completely honest, his two
years in Toronto may have been the peak of his career. Yeah,
just statistically, but yeah, it's just too short. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I'm gonna go with the guy the starting quarterback now
for the Oregon Ducks, but we strongly associate him with
his two previous teams, starting quarterback at UCF and then
at Oklahoma before they kind of allowed him to leave
or encouraged him to leave. And that's Dylan Gabriel, who
is one of the favorites to win the Heisman. But
he's gonna have to be great with Oregon to usurp
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how well he has known at UCF and Oklahoma. But
he's with the Ducks now.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Yeah, year he in the last couple of years, he'll
probably be the all time leading passer college football history
when he's done.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah, he's been around a while for sure.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Chris Crazy, this guy, I think he could certainly say
he's thought of as both of these and as a
Miami Dolphins fan, I don't include the Dolphins, isn't that?
But that is Jimmy Johnson, who you know quickly Schnellenberger
was not at Miami. He brought them kind of back
up or I don't work to start with. But Jimmy
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Johnson thought of as the architect that Miami hurricane. He
is the whole starting of the year. And then to
do what he did in Dallas was incredible. Before you know,
he and Jerry Jones, but it is he was at
of Dolphins too, and yeah, it just didn't work there.
But you know, I think he's a hurricane in the Cowboy,
I think kind of equally.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Yep, I like it.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
We we have not had a hockey player yet, so
I'm gonna go ahead and break the seal on that.
The captain of the Edmonton Oilers after Wayne Gretzky left,
Mark Messier court was the best player kind of at
the tail end of their dynasty and then moved on
to the New York Rangers and led the Rangers to
their first Stanley Cup championship in fifty years in nineteen
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ninety four. So I'm going with Mark Messier.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
So sure you were going to go Pierre Trujon, But
you didn't.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
So I don't even know who that is exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
That's the only hockey payer I know. No, I know
a couple of Hey, here we go. This fits the
category of associated with more than one team stream of consciousness.
Tell me who this guy played for in the NBA.
Kevin Garnett Timberwolves. Timberwolves. Yeah, but he's a Celtics legend, man,
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I mean he went there in the one championship, won
a championship with them, and then also played for Brooklyn.
But he's not associated with them. But yeah, he's Timberwolves,
but then also with the Celtics as well. I think
he qualifies. I mean they he's a Celtics legend for sure.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
He was. What I'm associate him with is he was
the first player of the modern year to go straight
from high school.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Of the NBA.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
There was a couple of guys in the seventies during
the ABA one, including Moses Maloney where I talked about,
Garnett was the first modern ear.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I got to do that.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Well, he showed that you can actually do it successfully, right.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah, he also moved around. He's from South Carolina and
went to high school in Chicago, which that was a
major story back then. Now it's like, well, yeah, of
course he did.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Farragut Academy, I think is where he went. But now
it's like everybody does that. But back then it was like,
how did you get from South Carolina to Chicago? That's
weird anyway, that's him, all right, Uh, Chris, you're next up.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I'll returned to another list with Chris's favorite ding rush
brush nine years and five state titles. Yeah, people in
Alabama certainly associated with that. And then came to Georgia
to Koppel County where he tached ten years of one
two state championship. First who won a couple of more.
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It could have been at South Alibuma Jag if Joey
Jones would have hired him. That didn't work out, but yeah,
and of course he coached about Looston and coached almost
coached about those other places. But yeah, as a buck
and a packer, I think rust posts Is followed them
both and.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Craig you would throw at Amal Bryan as well. Right
for people in the state.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Of Alabama, Sure, Ashville you follow Amel Bryant, all of them.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
But I think Chris is top two I think Hoover
and Colqwook County. Those are the right too, but also
famous at some other stops as well. Craig, you're next up.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
This is another one we've talked about guys who won
multi MVP's with multiple teams. Frank Robinson won the Rookie
of the Year and the MVP with the Cincinnati Reds,
and then after the nineteen sixty five season, the Reds
general manager famously said Frank Robinson is an old thirty
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and traded him to the Baltimore Orioles, where he promptly
on the Triple Crown the MVP of the World Series. Wow,
that was not a wise decision. Obviously, stayed there. He
was in Baltimore for six years and then moved on
to some other teams and Clinton. He was the player
manager of the Cleveland Indians, first African American manager in
Major League his street. But yeah, Orioles and Reds.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Brent Crubson, that's good for an old guy. That's pretty strong.
I got another guy here who qualifies because he was
famous in one city as a professional player, but then
had his most success somewhere else after that, and that's
Charles Barkley. Charles Barkley. I mean, you know, I thought
he would be a Philadelphia seventy six er for his
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whole career. That's where he was drafted and played with
Moses and Julius Irvin and Andrew Tony and all those guys.
And then that whole thing just completely fell apart when
they bungled the draft when they could have gotten Brad
Edwards and they did not go do that, and next thing,
you know, he shipped off to Phoenix where he is
League MVP. And uh, if not for that crazy Michael
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Jordan would have had a huge team success as well.
So Charles Barkley, he is a he also played for Houston,
but he's a son and a seventy six er.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yep, I've got this guy. Spent equal among of years
with both of these and uh, I still remember him
as la Ram. But Eric Dickerson was also a great
Indianapolis Colt, and just because he was such a different
looking running back, he kind of, you know, stood out
and obviously he was great as well, but he had
probably greater years maybe with the Colts.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
But just Ram, what are you doing about?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
He was? Well, he was he was a Pro Bowl
I think every year he was a cold and so
uh yeah, I mean he was a great ram that's
how our memory. But he was, I mean he was
the Colts before in the Belts came along. So and
just a little better than Craig James.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Yes, yea, yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
I'm gonna go with a manager who went to three
straight World Series with one team and one two World
Series with another team. Tony LaRussa with the Oakland A's
he went to three straight World Series one one and
then later with the Cardinals one one, two World Series
and man of some other teams well, including the White
Sox and the White Sox twice actually, but Tony was
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definitely Oakland A's and Saint Louis Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Mm hmm, I like it. I think he definitely qualifies
as somebody associated with more than one team I got
to coach for you here in college basketball. This one's
interesting because it is two rivals, Rick Patino, Kentucky Wildcats
and Louisville Cardinals. Now he's also you know, Providence and
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the Celtics or whatever, but Louisville and Kentucky those are
the two. And uh man to be like that prominent
with two schools who are that bigger rivals in the
same state. That's uh, that's hard to pull off. But
Rick Patino, the well dressed coach in college basketball, qualifies here.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
His his greatest legacy with the Celtics was the quote
Larry Bird's not walking through that door.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yes, yeah, and neither of you for long you're here.
That is the fact.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
It's not it's not his fault. They didn't get the
number one pick and couldn't take Tim Duncan. I mean
they tried.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I know, I know Chris Well.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I'll stay in the vein of well dressed UH coaches
in the Big Apple with pat Riley, who had most
of the success with the LA Lakers, even after that
awkward introductory press conference. But uh, I mean he was,
he was the coach of showtime. But then I mean, well,
ain't in a good run with the Knicks, but in
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even a better run with the maybe heat recorded and
he's still you know, associated with him as an executive.
But you know, I think, certainly make a cage probably
for three, but I think definitely with the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
And the MH.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
This guy had pretty short tenures with two different college
football teams, but was a big winner at both and
that's urban Meyer with the Florida Gators and the Ohio
State Buckeyes. He won two titles with with Florida and
one in Ohio State. Also had another undefeated season at
Ohio State when they were not eligible because of it
say sanctions, but definitely associated with both and Randy we
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talked about this a lot, but when you know the
team focus has autographed items from different people, and one
of them was a football autographed by urban Meyer and
it said urban Meyer seven and zero, which was his
record against Missigon.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
That's how he signed his autograph.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Boy, as a Michigan man, you gotta hate that, which
is probably why he doesn't. Oh yeah, that's that's good. Yeah,
that's really good. I like it. I got one in
college foot ball who you might agree that he qualifies
and if not, you know, in a couple of weeks
you might agree that he qualifies. And that is the
quarterback for the Florida State Seminoles, dj ou Angel. He
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is yeah, exactly exactly obviously with Clemson, but then with
Oregon State and now the quarterback at at Florida State.
And I think he's probably going to be pretty good
with those guys, and so I think he obviously qualifies
here and that's that's very time.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
I was a wonder how many quarterbacks have there been
that played at two teams in the same conference too,
you know, there's not been that many. There's probably been
some that I'm not thinking abouts off my head, but
that's he's definitely one of them.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
They were actually the starter for two in one conference.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yeah, the starter. That kind of changes things because going
way back to the beginning, Chris before he hung out
of the Millhouse in Valdosta, Metlenburger right from Georgia and LSU.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Yeah, ever started at Georgia.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Yeah, right, Chris, didn't he hang out of the millhouse
in Valdosta?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Uh, there was there was an issue there, but yeah,
I thought we're talking about the Simpsons.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
No, there's a uh Richard or Richard Nixon. There's a
there's a somewhat famous hangout in Valdosta, Georgia, and apparently
Jetlenburger went there and did not end well. Next thing,
you know, he's playing for LSU.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
So anyway, that's going way back when transfers were not
weren't happening, But he wasn't the Georgia starter. He was
the l s U starter, but he was not the
Georgia starter. So yeah, anyway, his.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Mother was Martin Big secretary.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
But oh yeah, I forgot about that, Mark Riek's secretary. Yes,
I like it all right, Chris.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I think you're next one guy that I bet you
never hung out at the Millhouse. But uh, he should
be on any list he can because Black Ox. He
led the Atlanta Falcus the Super Bowl, and that of
course is Dan Reeves, who also lived at unfortunately never
won either of them. But uh, he's a great coach
with the Broncos and a very good coach with the
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Falcons as well. Not so good with the New York Giants.
But uh, but you could also made the case he's
he's thought it as a Dallas cowboy where he played and
one of the an assistant coach you know back in
the in the heyday during the seventies when you was
winning everything. He was the offense coordinator for Tom Landry.
But but I would say as a Bronco and a Falcon, uh,
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and Dan ree is one of the just best guys,
you know, he passed away a couple of years ago,
but just a great great guy as well. But uh
yeah Falcon and Denver.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Broncos I'm with you married in his home? Can you
get married in his hometown?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Didn't know? Yeah, yeah I did get mean that's why
I forgot about that.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
What do you mean we forgot about it?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Georgia?
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Is he not?
Speaker 2 (33:53):
No? Yeah, he was a great player America. Georgie certainly was. Yeah,
uh huh.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Absolutely they commemorate him there in that town, Yes, they
absolutely do.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
We had bo Nick's earlier. The guy that he just
feed out also qualified that Russell Wilson as an NC
State packer and the Wisconsin Badgers.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Yeah, a whole pack of Badgers.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Yeah. I only played at Wisconsin one year, but definitely
had a great run that got him into the NFL.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Almost played at Auburn. There was a lot of speculation
that he was going to transfer to Auburn.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Then it didn't start to pick them, started to pick them,
That's what exactly.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
But I do like that he has always said, you know,
when he does his intro what school he went to,
and he says, a whole pack of Badgers, which is
you know, kind of referring to both on my leg it.
Last one I got and I'm gonna give you a
two for for my finish up Here. Two guys that
always associate with each other, and they're associated with the
same two schools, and that is Vince Dooley and Pat Dye.
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They are kind of the mirror images of each other
that one played at Georgia and coached at Auburn, one
played at Auburn and coached at JA and I think
they're associated with I think Vince Dooley in in Alabama
strongly associated with Auburn from here in Mobile. Uh and
Pat Dye, who played it, you know, just the opposite.
I think he strongly associated with Georgia even though he's
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the coach at Auburn. So that's your two for Vince
Dooley and Pat Die. Chris, what does you got?
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Well, Yeah, if I gave you Dickerson, who was a
great Rams and the Cold, I give you Marshall Fulk
who started off as a great Colt then had great
seris with the with the Rams as well. So uh, yeah,
kind of he went reversed, but he was great with both.
I think his associated with both of those.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Craig, you guys A yeah, last one, I got that
one of the all time great players and associated with
two different teams. Welt Chamberlain with the Philadelphia Warriors and
Los Angeles Lakers. Yeah, I want to want to won
a championship with the Lakers. A lot of people think
Chamberlain never won a championship. He exit did one one
and uh, you know, obviously it was great with Philadelphia Warriors.
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And as Randy will let you, we'll sure we'll point out, uh,
the San Diego Conquista do.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Exactly, That's exactly what I was about to say.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Indoor Volleyball League.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
The San Diego Conquista doors.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Coach of that as well.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Well, yeah, oh sure, yeah, yeah. A lot of talents,
a lot of talents. A that's a good list, and
there are definitely some We're gonna be getting more and
more college football players where this is gonna be the case,
you know, like if like I don't know, Caleb Downs
may go on or Quench Jenkins, you know, may may
end up at Ohio State, be a guy that's like
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no one is one of the all time greats at
Ohio State, but we'll always think of him as old miss.
I think we're gonna be getting a lot of that
with the transfer portal of the way it is now.
But we've we've pointed out a couple of those, but
a lot of pro folks as well. Who you think
the winner is? Somebody most strongly associated with more than
one franchise. Do you think.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
M.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Reggie White's a good one?
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Yeah, Bill Jackson, it's a good one. Phil Jackson's a
good one as a coach, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
For Yeah, Patina won championships at both, that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
How about if we just go with the because it's
current the new starting quarterback for the Denver Broncos, Bo Nicks,
Auburn and Oregon very strongly associated with both and I
think will always be strongly associated with both of those schools.
So we'll go with that. But there's lots of good candidates, guys,
good stuff again, Chris, backup, Craig Stevenson. Let's do it
again next week.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Sounds good.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
There you go. It is list with Chris. We do
it every week and always fine. I'm Rianda Kennedy in
the thread at Faster Studio. This is Sports Talk ninet