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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Who are the five greatest athletes of all time? Who's
the worst player to ever deliver an iconic sports moment?
Who's the least athletic looking athlete in history. It's time
to rank the best and the worst that sports has
to offer. Let's dive in to Lists with Chris.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
It's a real life football edition of Lists with Chris,
and we are thrilled about that. We love doing the
segment every week with my good buddies Chris Beckham and
Craig Stevenson. And this week it is obviously football related,
but it's also other sports as well, but very clearly
inspired by the Florida State Seminoles, who are zero and
too and like we got nothing to look forward to
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as the Seminoles oh and two already. And so the
topic for this week's List with Chris is it was
over before it started, or let's just call the whole
thing off. We're basically talking about a sea he's in,
or a game that we were really looking forward to,
and as it turns out, there was nothing to look
forward to. Let's just get it over with and move
on to a different sport. That's what we're doing, Chris
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and Craig were right up by this one.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yes, But can I make a question that might result
changing my list? Could it also be a career?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yes, of course it can. It could be a career
as well. Here we go, Chris, Uh, we're liberal with
these rules. What do you got for us?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Well, then if it can be a career, I'm gonna
go with Mike Price. I mean, the Tide fans, you know.
And I hate to bring in a PICNX scab in Alabama,
but uh, you know Dennis Strange se only you left
Mike Price, he was, you know, wonder guy at watching
the state. He comes in here and he's a you know,
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great on the microphone all this, and man, it just
fell apart, well within the matter of days. I mean
it's just it could not have been to any Uh.
And then so you're left there in May and time
things are going well, there goes the whole year. I mean,
you know, and what kind of box we been now
he was it's Nick Saban. I mean I don't think
you might expected it. But at the time ALBMB wasn't
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looking for another Nick Saban. They were just looking to
be better than Denni Franchi only which you know, wouldn't
have been all that hard, but but boy, it it
fell apart so quick because I just remember, you know,
I'm not even you know, necessarily a huge album of
fan or booster or not. But but I felt bad
just because just fell sordid and stupid. The whole thing was.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yep, for sure, Craig, what's your first one?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Well, I'm going to go to the NFL and this
is two thousand and eight season opener between the New
England Patriots and Kansas City Chiefs, and Tom Brady takes
a helmet on the knee in the first game and
it's out for the year. Now. The Patriots obviously were
coming off the unbeaten season the year before where they
had lost in the Super Bowl and everybody said, oh,
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they're going to make another run of it. Matt Castle
came in and actually did okay, they made the playoffs,
but they were not what they were the year before.
Now you may have heard Brady came back and was okay,
but it didn't work out for the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I would go with something very very similar to that.
I'm just going to go back to last year. Remember,
I think all of us, the three of us and
everybody listening was probably watching as the New York Jets
debuted Aaron Rodgers. We got three plays in and suddenly
he's got that achilles injury, and okay, we're gonna bring
in Zach Wilson. This season's over. Three plays into the
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year and the whole season's over. And it turned out
they were good everywhere except at quarterback. And it was
over indeed when they lost Aaron Rodgers. And that was
his debut with the Jets too, So I'll go with
Aaron Rodgers last year with the Jets.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, the best part of that season for Aaron Rodgers
was running out with the flag, because I think the
game took place on nine to eleven. If I'm not,
I think it was. Yeah, he ran out with the
flag and that was it.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I thought you were going to say when he took
those hallucinigens, that was a pretty good day.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I mean, that probably was.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
But yeah, all.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Right, uh, Chris, you're up.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
This is what I remember vividly because it happened literally
a few days after I turned twenty one. It was
a Saturday, and so I was ready to enjoy a celebration.
Let's just say that and it seems that I love
very much. The nineteen eighty Florida State Seminoles were ranked
number one and we're gonna put the beat down on
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Miami and you know, thirty one to nothing, and it's
forever the curse of the Seminole rap. Maybe the worst
rap video I've ever seen in my life. That might
be gun Sanders Odell Hacken establishing himself as the worst
rapper in the history of rap. But uh, I mean
there was all the expectations and uh, well now Florida now,
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so everybody thought the season was over. Florida ended up
winning eleven after that, so maybe they didn't qualify for
this category. They end up winning eleven, finished third in
the country. But just a slap in the face against
your big rival on the first day of the season
when you ranked number one, and not just get beat
by field goal, but to get it embarrassed by the
thirty one nothing.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
See Chris, I think it exactly fits the category perfectly,
because even though we went on to win eleven, we
still didn't have a good year, so there was nothing
that could happen to make it a good year after
that first loss. Even though we won eleven in a
row still wasn't a good year. So no, I think
it fits the category perfectly.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, that Florida State team is
the last preseason number one to lose at season open.
Because they were talking about this the other day, I
believe that's correct.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
No, I thought it was. I thought it was b
Yu beat Miami.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well, I don't know that b why. I don't know
that Miami was number one, but I can check OGA.
But I know that Florida State team was number Yeah,
so they go, well, it wasn't good, yeah, for sure. Well,
There's been a lot of bad expansion teams in professional sports.
The worst probably is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the NFL,
who lost their first fourteen games. In the first season,
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they went fourteen, and they lost their first twenty six
overall into the nineteen seventy seventh season. John McKay obviously
a lot of Ballely who you know had been had
left USC to take over to Tampa Bay. They'd gotten
Steve Spurrier, the former Heisman Trophy winner from the state
of Florida, to be the quarterback, and they were just
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really really bad. Their first victory, do you know who
it was. Again, do we know this.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Central Florida, The Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I don't know, Probably not, Probably not.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
That was my way of saying, I don't know, the
New Orleans, Yeah, the Saint.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Fact of course. Anyway, Tampa Bay Box obviously a big
deal getting any time. You know, it's a big deal
for your city and your state and all that to
get an expensive team.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
But boy they were bad. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Here's one that I would bet a million dollars that
Chris will feel the pain from this. But I know
one positive that Craig feel the pain. When I say
this because I experienced with him. October ninth, twenty nineteen,
it was the National League Division Series between the Braves
and the Cardinals. We were so anticipating that game, and
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Craig and I were on the air. We're like, let's
get off the air so we can hurry up and
get home and watch the Braves. Craig, you remember this,
And before we could get out of studio, the Cardinals
led the Braves ten nothing in the first inning.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, and then Mike fault Levitch.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. You know, I had planned my night,
this is gonna be a great night. I'm watching the
Braves and the Cardinals and it's like it's ten to nothing. Well,
now what am I gonna do? That was the biggest
dud I can ever remember, because you know you could
come back, but you're not going to down ten nothing
to the Cardinals.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
That you remember that one, Craig for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
By the way, that Miami team in nineteen ninety was
also number one, So I don't know what I was thinking.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, it's okay, that's.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Right, but but Florida State was too.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, there you go, here we go. Let's just gloss
over the Braves alluding to the Cardinals that day. That
was that one. That one was painful. All right, Chris,
we're doing like the Florida State current fans, let's just
call the whole thing off. It went terribly wrong to
begin with. Who you got?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Well, real quick, back on the Braves. So because that
game was like an afternoon start, correct, yep, late afternoon,
it was yeah, yeah, because I remember people just thinking, yeah,
you know, i'll see one, got for work. I'm not
worried about this, and then boy you get all you think,
well fifth in and what I mean a lot of
people may admit that early start and then just really
makes it maybe even fund of worse or better. But
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but speaking of Atlanta, you know, Falcons fans are used
to kind of being slapped in the face by fakes.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
But you know, but we.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Still get fired up. We still every year talk ourselves
and this could be the year. In two thousand and
seven was great. We just hired Bobby Petrino, offensive whiz kid,
We got Michael Vick. We're gonna, you know, now the
time to put it all together. You know, Vick's so good.
We trade Matt Shaub in the off seats of the
Texas we don't need a backup. And then in July
for the season starts Big gets indicted and suspended for
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the league, and so we turned to the combination of
Joey Herrington, Byron Leftwich and Chris Redmond, which is a
four and twelve year so a lot of excitement. New
coach Sibi Petrino. We all know how that story ended.
But you know, and again the face he didn't get
suspended for the year in February, is in July, and
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so yeah, you know, the Falcons fan should know not
to be excited. But even when we have a good
reason to be excited.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
It comes back to buy it.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
It wasn't a four and twelve season for Bobby Petrino though,
it was a three and ten season because he was gone,
Yeah big s good point.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah that's a good point.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah, I'm gonna go back to Alabama football. And this
may be the biggest dud for a lot of reasons.
Two thousand. Alabama had won the SEC the year before.
They go into two thousand ranked number three in the country.
Paul Hogan at SEC media Days talked about how they
nicknamed the offensive line the pancake posse in Alabama the
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national championship contender. They're going back to the Rose Bowl
for the first time in fifty years. You know, they
play UCLA in the opener. Freddie Millens ran a punt
back for a touchdown early in that game, and the
entire season was pretty much downhillprom there. They lost to
UCLA that day. Deshaun Foster, the current coach at UCLA,
ran for about four hundred and ninety seven yards. They
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lost that game.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
They lose.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
They did beat Vanderbilt, but then they lost. They got
shut out by Southern Miss at home, and that was
pretty much Yet they ended up three and eight, Mike
Newbos gets fired, and you know there's pretty direct pathway
from there to Mike Price, who we talked about earlier.
But yeah, that that probably was the most anticipated Alabama
season in years, because even the year they won the
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national championship in nineteen ninety two, you know, they were
top ten team, but people didn't think they were a
national championship contender necessarily. But I would say since the
Ryan days, that was probably the most anticipated season, and
it just fell apart on it from the beginning.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
That's the very next one I had was that thirty
five to twenty four. That's what I was going to say, Craig,
you may not know this, but Chris Becab and I
once shared an apartment and Paul Hogan visited that apartment
in a tuxedo for a photo shot.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
You remember that, Chris very well, was he picking up
somebody for a date?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
No, it was for a football cover shot. He was
were in a tuxedo, but provided by the Valdosta Day
of Time.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Oh there you go.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, oh good stuff. I'm going to go to tennis
twenty twenty two Australian Open. If you'll recall, we were
still in the throes of COVID nineteen, Novak Djokovic was
all the rage. Of course, the best player in the world,
maybe the best player of all time. He shows up
ready to be the star of this event, and next
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thing you know, we throw him out of the country.
He would not get vaccinated, and we throw him out
of the country. He thought he had some sort of
exception or whatever they were gonna let him in to play,
and he actually got there and then they're like, Nope,
you're not playing. And that was like a big letdown
for the twenty twenty two Assie Open. And just this
last year at the Aussie Open. Uh he was playing
there and he was stepped up to the line to
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serve and somebody screamed out, give vaccinated, mate, and uh
so anyway, but twenty twenty two was the one that
was like, oh, this tournament's a dub. We don't get
the number one player in the world because he won't
get vaccinated. So there you go. I will go with
tennis for that one. All right, Chris, it's over before
it got started. Who you got?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Well, this is one of the ones I think a
lot of people think about early in college football seasons.
September of the first two thousand and seven, the number
five ranked Michigan Wolverines think, yeah, we know that state
was once a SCF national championships but you know they're
coming to you know, they're coming to Michigan. You know
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house that's right, the left wing the field goal in
ann Arbor, and I mean that just takes the wind
out of your sales immediately. And and of course that state,
you know, got a four one thousand dollars check to
come up there and do it.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
So uh.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
But when you're you know, when you ranked that high
and lose, I don't care who it is, uh and lose. Uh,
you know that opener, that just uh, you know that
e accused me for the rest of the years. I
mean even nowadays, I think with the change in the playoffs,
that loose an FDF team you're not gonna get back in.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
So that was rough. I had that one for sure.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Great nineteen eighty eight, Uh, well, going on in nineteen
eighty seven eighty eight, Mike Tyson is just annihilating everybody
and as a boxer, and you know, gets to thirty
four and oh and everybody thinks, well, you know he's
he's a great he's a good fighter, but he hasn't
really fought a real boxer yet. Michael Spinx is out there.
Uh thirty one and oh and they're they're gonna fight
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in Atlantic City on June twenty seventh, nineteen eighty eight.
Once and for all is the UH is the UH tagline,
you know, the the UH. They're going to unify the
heavyweight belts because I think Tyson had three and Spinx
had two, so they're gonna unify the heavyweight championship and
it's gonna be a great fight for everybody. And uh
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ninety one second sentence over, Tyson has just annihilated Michael
Spinx and never heard from Michael Spinx again after that.
And you know, Tyson of course to be championed for
about another year and a half before he melted it down.
But yeah, that was one of those where I if
I had, you know, spent the money for a pay
per view on that or whatever it was, or even
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a closed circuit ticket, I would have been, you know, infuriated.
But that's way it went.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Well.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I can speak to that, Craig, because I was at
the Oak Mountain Amphitheater where we were showing the fight,
and there was a there was a dad there and
his kid was like, Dad, I gotta have some popcorn.
He's like, all right, So he went to the concession stand.
By the time he got back with the popcorn, the
fight was over and he was looking at that kid like,
we are never going anywhere where again. This is yeah,
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I mean, and it was expensive too, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I was gonna say, if you had if you were
at Oak Mountain, this is June, and you know that's
an outdoor ramp theater. Yeah, could you even see the screen?
I mean, was it even dark yet before the fight
was over?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I wonder, Craig, I knew some people.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I was right up front, So yeah, well I'm paying
in terms of delight. You know, you can't really see
a theater screen that well during the day when it
was early, although I would guess they probably had an undercard.
It may have been after dark.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
But yeah, it wasn't much to see. It wasn't much
to see. Like you said, thirteen seconds and that was
that was the Yeah, whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I think the Marvis Frasier was thirteen seconds. Yeah, that
wasn't That wasn't the championship fight.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, and even even uh, you know, it was over
before it was over, as you remember, I mean, it
was like from the first ten seconds, you're like, why
are we even watching this? This is not gonna make
it out of the first round. It was obviously think
think of why I'm even doing this?
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Yeah, yeah, I know right.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Well he could afford some new teeth after getting the
but that was the best we could say for this
was Leon. Oh that was Leon. My bad, my bad.
That's his brother. That was his brother. You're right, you're
right about that. I'm going to the same year the
Arnold Palmer Golf Tournament. That year, the legendary John Daly
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there was a hole that was only three hundred and
fifty four yards as the as the crow flies, as
they say, but it was like a horseshoe, so you
had to hit it over the water. You had to
hit it the full distance to get it there. And
John Day, legendary big hitter, said, you know what, I
believe I can get it there. Well, he could not
get it there. This was on whole number six. Now
to his credit, for the rest of his round he
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shot even parr. But it didn't matter. Once you go
thirteen over on one hole you're gonna be He hit
it in the water six times, which put him at
thirteen over for the hole. So once you do that,
it's like, what are we even doing here? But to
his credit, he at least kept playing and shot even
part other than those and they didn't make the cut
and went home. So John Daily in nineteen eighty eight,
So I got Chris, you.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Got oh go to late May nineteen ninety two in
the city of New Orleans when in the Olympic trials, Uh,
Dan O'Brien does not make it up. I see the
build up to Dan and Dave, you know, a pause
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apart for the Summer Olympics in Barcelona five weeks later.
I mean this they started with the Super Bowl Lassis
been going for about five months, Dan and Dave, who's
gonna win, Who's the greatest athlete? All this, you know?
And then Dan Dan Dan, I tell you what he
just Uh he didn't make it. And then they and
then they had to try to change it. Uh, I
mean the reblock tried to change it to now Dan
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Rooten to day. I mean it's all I could do.
I mean, I can't pay together do something. I mean,
you know, you're gonna make what you got. But yeah,
that just ruined. I mean, I just can't I want to.
I'm sure to read like people were there watching you
know what what do we do New Year? Well, I
sell you what And.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I mean that was if you're not old enough to remember,
we all bought into that. We were all bought in.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
We are like, yeah, I mean we don't think the capital.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yeah I'm watching.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Somebody may be no, we don't know anything about that.
You know.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yes, that's a good one that I didn't have that,
but that's a very very good one.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Greig Dan ended up in eighty eight being the champion, right,
he came back and made the team and ended up
being the champion.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I think I gave up on him. I'm not sure
they were dead.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
They were dead to me in Atlanta. Yeah, ninety six
was anyway, got another expansion team for you, and this
is one that would well, you talked a lot about
a lot of build up when the New Orleans Jazz,
We're running a franchise nineteen seventy four. Their first big
move was to trade for Pete Merrivitch from the Hawks
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for two first round picks, three second round picks, and
one third round pick, you know, and they they they,
you know, we're gonna bring Pete Maryvy's home and we're gonna,
you know, take over the city of New Orleans and basketball, well,
they started out zero and eleven one in sixteen two
and twenty three and three and thirty four, yeah, to
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basically the first half of the season. They actually ended
up playing well late in the year, wound up twenty
three and fifty nine, but still the Jazz never really
got a toe hold in the city of New Orleans.
Obviously A big, you know, big part of the problem,
and I guess they've kind of rectified this now is
they had to take a month long road trip every
season because of Marti Gras, you know, just because of
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the the way it was set up at the time,
and you know, they just never really got caught on
and ended up moving to Utah obviously five years later,
where they are still the Utah Jazz, which is a
silly name, but you know, they've had some success there.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I'm gonna go back to uh, I'm gonna go baseball
here two thousand uh and let's see, I've got twent
one losses to start the season for the White Sox
in twenty twenty four, but also nineteen eighty eight the
Baltimore Orioles, which guys, that Orioles team, you know, it's
just in name, it's not in their prime, but that
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Orioles team in eighty eight lost twenty one to start
the year with Eddie Murray, cal Ripken, fred Lynn Brady Anderson,
Greg Olsen's that's three g's Greg Olsen. I mean, I
know they're not in their prime or whatever, but those
are some name players and they were oh in twenty one,
at which point you're just like, I'm not watching the
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other one hundred and forty games or whatever. We're done
with you guys. So there you go. Eighty eight Baltimore Orions.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, the Braves lost their first ten that year and
they weren't even the worst team.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
That's a good crazy park.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
That was good. All right, Chris, we're doing it's over
before it started, or just forget it what you got?
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Well, I'm with Kyle it then. So the eighty eight
Braves were terrible, and they said, hey, we got something
to get better, and man, we can sign a fridge
and deal with nick A Saski. Oh he's man. He
had been in He's been with Red Sox one year,
had great to get through with the Rids. Been with
the Red Sox for one year and had his best
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year Braves, signing nine games in hits one sifty one.
Turns out he got vertigod never played again. Oh well,
he did come back and play a little bit, but
it was some of his career was over. And I
mean that you couldn't be more Atlanta Braids late eighties
than that. I mean, just you think, here we go,
we got somebody, and in fact, he was you know,
not only was a very good ball player, you know,
he was you know people, you know, nice guy and
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all this kind of I mean checked every box except
the Vertico box. He didn't check that box. Plan the Verdio.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, you know, that was right before they started getting
good again. And the crazy thing is if they had,
if he had turned out to be good, they may
have never signed, said Brent, you know, and uh, I
think that. And because he didn't pan out, they called
up David Justice and put him at first base. And
you wonder, you know, Sadi was there, would they have
called up Justice? Women did, so it kind of worked out.
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But yeah, at the time it was like, what are
we doing?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
How long since I heard the name Niko Saski? I
mean that team was actually interesting.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Braves did their their alumni weekend and they introduced a
bunch of players before the game, and he came out.
He was one of the guys. I was like, wow,
id you know, like you said, I hadn't heard of
him in so long.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
New Year's Eve twenty twenty one, your friend and mine,
Brian Harson introduced as a head coach New Year's Eve. Yeah,
we're gonna this be a big party here in Auburn.
We're bringing in this guy. You know, we're gonna cut
ties with the old regime here at Auburn and we're
not going to be pushed around by Jimmy Rain and
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all those people. And we're gonna, you know, we're gonna
it's a new day. We're hiring somebody from outside the
South and this guy has been.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
A winner everywhere he went.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
And uh, yeah, not so good. Although they didn't start
out okay, they started out four and one amazingly b
the ls that year, but then they got crushed. You know,
they nearly lost to Georgia State, and then late in
the year Techadatey and the Mississippi State, South Carolina, Alabama
and Easton beat him in succession. The next year, they
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almost lose to Missouri. Terrible Missouri team, you know where
we thought Brian Harrison was really just trying to get fired,
you know, and he ended up they ended up winning
the game because Missouri fumbled into the end zone. But
then he lost four in a row and he was
he was so he was actually hired on New Year's
even fired on Halloween.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Which is really weird.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
But yeah, Brian Harrison.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
And in between them was in Mexico.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Yep. Yeah, it did not work out here. Go.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
This one's similar to what Chris was talking about Florida
State number one losing the first game to Miami and
there was basically no way to make it up. I'm
going to go back further than that. Nineteen seventy five
Alabama football. Very high expectations for Alabama and they were
playing a team that I had never heard of. I
didn't know my states too well. Missouri they were playing
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to start the year. There's no chance they could lose
to Missouri and they get beat twenty seven. I didn't
know Missouri, no, exactly exactly. I wasn't up on my
states just yet. Craig, Well, let's put this away. I
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didn't know they had a football team, how about that.
But they played Missouri, Missouri beats them twenty to seven,
and just like Chris was saying, that was it. The
year was over. Like you know, this long waited season,
it's over. Alabama went on to win eleven in a row.
They won the Sugar Bowl and beat Penn State, but
they were never higher than number four in the polls
the rest of the way. That was it. There was
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nothing they could do after losing to Missouri. The year's over.
When su nineteen seventy six seasons start.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah, that one didn't go well either.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
That The thing about that Missouri Alabama win that is
always is the crazy thing is that Missouri fans tore
down the goal post at Pharaoh Field. But the game
was at Birmingham. They broke into the stadium and tore
down the goal post for a road game.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Yes, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
I was about to correct you. I was like, wait
a minute, I know that was in Birmingham. Oh that
is that's that's a good call. That's a good call,
all right, Chris, what you got, it's over before it started.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
What you got, I'm gonna go to the two for
here nineteen eighty eight and uh, Christmas Day, Georgia fans
are tuned in to see their new coach, Glenn Maroon
waiting the little hobble in his last game with Kansas,
and then in the postgame interview he said, you know what,
I'm going to stay here and be a jail And
as I thought, the several Georgia beat right at that
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time they say, well, because Christmas, thank Lynn, and so
of course Georgian's up here and Jim Donna later on.
But that was I mean, it was embarrassing for Georgia's
no doubt greg Off. They just let him go and
and and Glen Mason was I mean, it's the stock
on Glen Mason was high, and a lot of people really,
you know, that was a good way to kind of
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I mean again Georgia. People in Georgia did know Kansas
had a team and like Randy Missouri, but we didn't
know much about Kansas, and so this is a good
way to say, let's see what our new coach has
and then slaps you in the face of the post game.
But then as I fait of two for move forward.
A year later he does leave Kansas. He goes to Minnesota.
They're all excited and go for Land. They hey, we
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got then Mason. First game he loses Irocki to Hawaii seventeen.
They did appoint two fan bases in back to back years.
Wait to go, Glenn.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Everybody in the in Georgia was pulling for Hawaii, weren't
weren't they?
Speaker 4 (26:36):
I like it?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Graig, Uh, yeah, this one was kind of sad. Well,
it is really sad in a way. But September fifteenth,
nineteen seventy one, the Houston Astros are playing the Atlanta
Braves and a rookie relief pitcher named Larry Yut is
warming up to pitch the ninth inning. Well, while he's
warming up, his elbows starts to hurt. He tells a
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manager about it, they take it out. He never appears
in a major league game. Oh no, well, he actually
technically appeared in a game, but he never actually threw
a pitch. And yeah, he ended up stayed in the
game a couple more years and never made it back
to the majors. Now, he did become a successful agent
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to his younger brother. You might have heard of Robin
Yount and also became a very very successful real estate
developer in Arizona. So he, you know, his life has
started out okay, but you know it's always you know,
we got so close and never had it, never actually
got to play in a game. Larry Gown, I like it.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I got it going for you. This is I don't
think you guys were watching this, but it was the
nineteen forty one US Open golf tournament. Walter Rado all right,
he shot one hundred on the round, but that's not
what's so bad about it. It started out terrible. On
the first t he hits his drive, it hits a tree,
it bounces back almost his and then his playing partner,
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Mario Gonzalez turned to Walter Ratdo and said, should I
tea off or should you hit again? Since you're further
from the hold of me. That's how it started from
my man. Walterrado ed he did want to shoot one hundred,
which was you know, but he should have known from
the opening tea. I mean, that's rough. He was further
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from the hole than the guy who had yet to
start his round. That's not good. Walter Rado on his
way to one hundred.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
That's not good.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
No, it's not Chris.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
I'll go with the ninety four to ninety five Duke
Blue Devils, who I found a four appearance year before.
They got a great team Cherokee Parks, trading Langdon. They're
ready to go. They actually start off ninety three and
then coach Kase said, you know what, I will I
need to take all time off some health reasons, and
you know people, okay, well that's strange. Well and then
the whole thing collapsed and Pete Gardette, the assistant, took over,
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and without Pitchfield on the sidelines, Duke goes four and
fifteen and just I mean finish is thirteen and eighteen. Nobody,
I mean they even if they had Captain Kangaroo pitching
that team, you think it that could you know, win, yes,
you see, but it just fell apart, like they could
not believe from riding highlight they usually were in the
early nineties with Duke to just a shockingly disapeing season.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
That was when his back was stove up right.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Yeah, that's what the doctor said.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
H yeah, I'm gonna go back to baseball. You know.
During World War two, Obviously, there were manpower shortages because
so many of the better players were overseas, and baseball
teams had to go just about anywhere they could to
get talent, including very young people. Well, the Cincinnati Reds
on June tenth, nineteen forty four, called up fifteen year
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old pitcher Joe Nuxhall, who was kind of a star
pitcher in that air out right outside of Cincinnati. They
put him in in the top of the ninth inning.
They're head thirteen to nothing. He hits the ground out
with the first hitter, but then he get and then
a walk and then a flyout, so he's got, you know,
two outs and a man on first. Well, we've got
a wild pitch, and we've got a walk, and we've
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got a single. Then we've got a walk, walk, walk,
and another single. They take him out two thirds of
an inning, five earned runs, five walks, and an ERA
of sixty seven fifty. Now, Nutshall did make it back
to the major several years later. He actually did not
make it back until nineteen fifty two, and which is
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eight years later. So he made his debut at age
fifteen and came back at age twenty three and pitch
for you know about fifteen years. But you know, at
one point it looked like, wow, there you know this guy.
That's why you don't bring up fifteen year old to
play Major League Baseball. Even during World War Two. Yep,
he was not ready.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
I'm going to NBA. I don't think we've had anybody
from the NBA yet. I'm going to twenty and seventeen
Boston Celtics. The Celtics were all the rage in the
All season because they made the biggest acquisition of the
All season by bringing in Gordon Hayward, the former star
at Butler. He comes in, he's supposed to be this
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great player. Less than five minutes into the season against
the Cleveland Cavaliers, I was watching live and he basically
shattered his leg. I mean, you know, h let's don't
talk about it, but I mean he suffered a terrible,
terrible leg injury and he was out less than five
minutes into this mega contract deal. You're like, well, that's
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the guy we were building the team around. Now, it
turned out they actually did better than Boston fans would
have thought because they got Kyrie Irving, and that's the
year they signed Jason Tatum, or they drafted him, so
they actually had a pretty good year, but on that
night you couldn't convince anybody of that. They were just like, well,
the year's over because we lost the guy we were
looking forward to having, which was Gordon Hayward, who was
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a very good player and continued to be afterwards, but
they lost him for that year. In twenty seventeen, Chris,
what don't you got in? Uh, it's over before it
got started.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Well, in nineteen sixty four, one of the most famous
boxing matches ever when a young Castius Clay beat Sunny
Liston in Miami. And you know, Clay was a huge underdog.
So when they have the REMATX, I said, well, now
Sundays can be shape and just showed us young whippers
stamp or something well Lewiston, Maine. Sixty seconds then the
phantom punch to the Temple Listing goes down. A lot
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of people think it was you know, brave, he hawed
some gamblers money, he had a lot of you know,
association with organized crime, whatever the case. Clay Beatson in
sixty seconds and literally, you know, much like Michael Spinks
before you got good stuff. When your seat, the whole
thing was over.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
So yep, correct You guys like I do often remember
the legendary Sports Illustrated covers April twenty fourth, nineteen eighty nine,
the incredible bulk six six they're and fifteen pound Tony
Mandrids the best offensive line prospect ever, Yes, and then
of course he ends up being the second overall pick
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in the draft, held out all of training camp. Probably
also was not allowed to use steroids in the NFL.
Probably it was a big part of it, and ends
up being one of the biggest busts of all time.
They did come back and play a few years, you know,
with the Indianapolis scopes and what's kind of an average
NFL player, but obviously not the greatest stuff insive line
prospect ever. And of course the big thing is that
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the number one pick was Troy Aitman, the number three
pick was Barry Sanders, the number four pick was Derreck Thomas,
and the number five pick.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Was Dion Sanders.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
So four of the top five were Hall of famers
and Tony Mandridge. So that just kind of adds to it.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Last thing I will offer here, and I know expectations
weren't very high, but still the current Florida Gator fans
are like Matt. We at least we were able to
convince ourselves somehow that things were going to be better.
And after watching the game that they opened up up
at home against Miami, I mean, at this point, every
Florida fan is like, can we just fire the coach
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and not pay attention to this season and maybe we'll
have a good basketball team. I mean, let's let's just
get this over where. We are not in any way
excited about anything else that can come until we hit
the restart buttons. I will, I will volunteer the Florida
Gators of this current year because it's not nothing good's
happening with the Gators.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
The villain period, Yeah, you know they they everybody thought, well,
we're getting the we're getting the saving guy. He turned
down other jobs and waiting for the right opportunity and
all that kind of stuff, and uh, you know, it's
gonna it's gonna happen for us finally, and it did
not happen for us.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Seemed like a good heir, it did seem like a
good heart, but it didn't work out. Chris, you got
anything else?
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Yeah, if the yeah one, this is the one, we'll
kive your question for you, Randy. John Macroe had been
to the US Open in semi our finals in eighty
four and eighty five. He had an injuries, but make
this major debut a slam W and eighty six at
US Open, John Macro, New York. The whole thing first
round upset. Do you know who it was the beating.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Michael Paul Paul Annacone.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Paul Annacone, who is interestingly the uh Paul Anacone is
the coach of Emma Navarro, who just made the US
Open semifinals. So there you go. That's hey, Paul Annacon,
Paul Anon. I believe University of Tennessee tennis player.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
There you go. I believe that. Tell you.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I believe that to be true. Paul Anacon.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Did you play for the University of Tennessee.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
I'm checking.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Let's see, I believe he did. He Uh. He also
coached Roger Federer and Pete Sankras. There you go, you're correct.
He is the University of c Early.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
So I didn't get the trivia, but I got the
bonus points whatever those were worth.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
I know about Paul Anacon. I didn't know the answer though, Craig,
you got something else? Now, If that's it, all right,
that's all I got to where y'all think the winner is.
I mean, look, I know it's current recency bias and
all that, but Florida State's oh and two and we
we why are we even playing the rest of the
season here?
Speaker 2 (36:12):
You know, this is uh, this is this is funny.
And if you add him the eighty eight Florida State
and the two thousand and seventeen Florida State, which I
didn't mention when they played Alabama, supposed to be the
greatest opener ever, the states can show up on this
list of a lot.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Yeah. Well and the other thing is, you know, this year,
because you can lose, you know, more than one that's
still making the playoff, and they were redoubling and all
they say, okay, we got caught off guard, all the
hoopling blah blah blah, but now we're gonna get and
then now it's just like, well we're just we you know, yeah,
shut it down.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yeah yeah, Bill O'Brien, Bill O'Brien, who couldn't you know,
coach an Alabama offense with Bryce Young to a championship?
Speaker 4 (36:49):
I mean, the full swing path. Guys only did it
eight times.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
The WA's the wheel. Watch the wheel. They ran that
wheel all long and we ain't covered it yet. We
ain't covered it yet. I don't know. Boy, it's frustrating.
All right, that's where we'll go. We'll go with Florida state.
Current Florida state recency bias is the winner of the
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Let's just call the whole thing off, let's just forget it.
We were excited about this season and now, just like that,
we're not anymore. All right, guys, good stuff. Chris Beckham,
Craig Stevenson, I'm Brandy Kennedy. We do it every week.
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