Lists with Chris Pete Rose dominated a decade 10-3-24

Lists with Chris Pete Rose dominated a decade 10-3-24

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Who are the five greatest athletes of all time? Who's
the worst player to ever deliver an iconic sports moment,
Who's the least athletic looking athlete in history. It's time
to rank the best and the worst that sports has
to offer. Let's dive in to lists with Chris.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Here we go. We do it every week with my
good buddies, Chris Beckham and Craig Stevenson. Lists with Chris,
and we always try to make it as timely as possible.
And this week it's a sad timely in that Pete
Rose passed away at eighty three years old, one of
the greatest baseball players of all time, not without controversy, obviously,
with the gambling situation that got him kicked out of

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baseball and he never made the Baseball Hall of Fame,
but one of the greats of all time, and so
an honor of Pete Rose. Inspired by Pete Rose, this
category is domination of a decade, any athlete in any
sport who dominated a decade. All right, before we get
into it, guys, I need to ask you Pete Rose, Chris,

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should he be in the Hall of Fame?

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Or no?

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yes, he should be in the Hall of Fame. However,
I mean, there's no greater example I think I can
think of, certainly in sports history, of just admit when
you're wrong. I mean, because that's the reason he's not yet,
is that he just we're refused two until much later
to Okay, I gambled on baseball. If he's just said
that and you know, admitted it, I think you'd be

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in there and this wouldn't be a question.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
But anyway, well we're off to a good start. That's
that's exactly the right answer in my opinion, Greg, What
do you think?

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, I agree, I think that they should allow him in.
I don't think he should have been allowed to work
in baseball, which is two totally different questions, you know.
And and the fact that I think that Pete Rose
never really did anything unless he could make money off
of it, and I think once it became financially beneficial
to him to admit he bet on baseball, then that's

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what he started doing.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yep, I think that's all correct. So we are on
the same page with that. So anyway, that's why that's
where the category comes from. Can I can I give
you my Pete Rose story before we before we get
going here, and and before I do, I will go
ahead and give myself the sounder, which doesn't often make
the show, but we'll hear.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Name drop alert.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
All right, here we go. So here's my personal Pete
Rose story. So I'm hanging out in Las Vegas. There's
like six of us at the dinner table, two of
whom are me and Pete Rose. All right, and Pete
Rose is like, uh, hey.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
You're for the other four Johnny Bench.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Dap and Trip Down, Jordan Foster, Jeff Morton, and Richard
Pryor was one of them. It's actually true. And so
Pete Rose gives the ultimate hey, you'rs sports guy who
you like. I'm like, well, i'll tell you what. I
got a big pick for you for tonight's game NCAA tournament.

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You got to take South Alabama against Butler. This is
a gimme, Pete. Well, that was the last time we
had dinner together because as you remember, what was that
Craig like two thousand and eight, when South Alabama had
such a great year, they go to Birmingham and who
even knew what Butler was at that point, but obviously
Butler beat him by twenty points. So that's my personal

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Peter Road story.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Butler made the National championship.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yes, they did well. South Alabama did not. They did not.
And every round that Butler won, Pete Rose was like
that guy from Mobile. He don't know nothing. So anyway,
that's pet roast.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
I always you always hear the Pete Roads story, famous
Peza Road story about Rick Riley when he was writing
for Sports Illustrated, was writing about Pete Rose and went
to his house and they went down in Pete's den
and he had all these TVs on, you know, showing
hockey and basketball and whatever our sports will go on.
And Riley thought, Wow, this guy is the biggest sports
fan I've ever met. I think may have been something

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else involved.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yes, could have been.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
Could have been.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, I need the Sabers to score at least two
and a half. Yes, exactly. All right, so we're doing this,
no question. Whatever you think about Pete Rose, he had
one of the dominant decades in the history of sports.
And so that's what the category is. The nineteen seventies
for Pete Rose. Absolutely all right, Chris, let's start us off.
Any player in any sport dominated in a decade who you.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Got well, I was gonna start with a storebaut that
night I hung out with Pete Rose Junior. But I'll
say that.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
You gave him Texas san Antonio bad choice in the
n IT.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
Well, this guy did dominate this decade, but I think
more so he's kind of associated with it for maybe
other reasons as well. And I think Joe Dimagio in
the nineteen forties, the cause he was with the Yankees.
Yankees were so dominant they won, you know, nine World
Series during the forties when they were just the team
that he was the faith of that team. But also

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because the forties, because World War Two had just ended
and it was a kind of a great time for
America after you know, nineteen forty four and after the war,
and Joe Demigia was kind of, you know, the great
American athlete at that time. And then of course, I
mean the hitting streak, and I mean he was a
I mean, he was a great player. It don't get
me wrong, But I think even a little bit above that,

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I think a lot of these guys are and women
who were going to be on this list. It's not
just as they dominated, they became more or bigger than
their sports. So to speak, and I think Joe Demijo
and of course in method being married to Mariyland Monroean,
it didn't hurt. That came later on, but he drank
coffee forties. Joe Demijo was kind of a American baseball.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Hero for sure. For sure.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Great, Yeah, I think this is this is probably the
most obvious one on the list, and that would be
Michael Jordan in the nineteen nineties and basketball, you know,
six NBA championships. I guess he also dominated minor league
baseball in the nineties. You could say that even though
he played the one year, certainly the most famous minor
league player yep, in that decade. But obviously, you know, greatest,

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you know, widely considered the greatest basketball player of all time,
and that was his heyday. He won three straight championships
from ninety one to ninety three, sat out a year
and a half, and then won three in a row
from ninety six to ninety eight, and then retired again.
So you know, when he was playing in the nineties,
pretty much was winning championships.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Greig, when he was playing for the Birmingham Barons, we
used to go out to Buffalo Wild Wings after just
about every game.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
You and Michael Jordan.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, no, I was just falling up on my Pee
Rose story. No, I've never met Michael Jordan.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Hey, sports gay, give me a tip.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
That did not happen. That did not happen. Oh, but
I tell you where he played his home games as
a minor leaguer. Leads us into this clip.

Speaker 6 (07:04):
Because all you guys, you thank you scholarship worthy. You
know who holds that key?

Speaker 3 (07:08):
How you think holds that key? Mean me? Chris?

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Is that safe to say? That's your favorite ten seconds
you've ever heard? Oh my god, Rush Probes and the
Hoover Bucks unbelievable from uh, you know the two thousands.
Hoover overall dominated the whole decade. But Rush Probes five
championships in six years from two thousand to two thousand
and five. He was good before that, even But and

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then Josh Niblett at Hoover won six and nine years
from two thousand and nine to seventeen. Both guys left
Alabama to go to Georgia. Chris, I don't know what
that's about, but one of his own volition.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
One not so much, yeah, ye true, but both successful.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah yeah, Josh Niblett. Doing a great job. But where's
that at Gainesville, right, gains w Yeah, Yeah, doing a
great job over there, all right, Chris, let's do it.
Dominating decade like Pete Rose with the Cincinnati Reds.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
Yeah, I don't know if you fund anybody, He's certainly
up there as far as domination with Wayne Gretzky in
the nineteen eighties, in the nineties really as well, but
more so in the eighties. You know, just the clear
goal scorer. He has, you know, points scored in NHL history.
He has more career assists than any of the player
had points in NHOB. I mean, so when he dominated,

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he just really really dominated. I mean he was by
far and away the best player during that era in
the National Hockey League.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Great call, yep, Greg.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, that's a good one. This guy he kind of spanned.
He spanned in two decades, but really his heyday was
the nineteen fifties. And that is Rocky Marciano and it's
sport of boxing. I mean, you can't get much better
than the undefeated heavyweight champion of the world. And I
believe of his forty nine victories, twenty five of them

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were in the nineteen fifties. He actually retired in nineteen
fifty five, so they didn't even make it through the
whole decade. But undefeated heavyweight champion Rocky Marciano or.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Senior Hall would agree with you. Wasn't he the one
that was in favorite Rocky or he was against Michael wa.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
The old Man? Maybe I don't.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, yeah, going to America one of the great moves
of all time. Yeap, Rocky Maceana, that's a good one.
How about uh, this is the guy that might deserve
to be in the same category with Pete Rose. What
about Lance Armstrong in the early two thousands, you know, like, yeah,
no kidding, Lance Armstrong seven times Tour de France champion,

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so basically, and he was you know good after that
as well and before, but seven times a champ in
a row from ninety nine to five Lance Armstrong and
then of course, uh, you know, I do not like
Lance Armstrong at all, but he was doping, just like
everybody else in the sport was. So you know, like, hey,
if your friend jumped off a bridge, would you Yeah,
if I could win the Tour de France, I would,

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So I'll just say lancern i don't like him at all,
but he was cheating like everybody else. Lance Armstrong's who
I got for cyclic Chris who you got?

Speaker 4 (10:18):
I'll go with the Jim Brown in the nineteen sixties
because he he just dominated the NFL. And again, he
didn't have a very long career, he only played nine years,
but he just kind of you know, if he'd have played,
you know, another five years, like a lot of guys,
he is running back like a Gimmismith and a lot
of other ones do I think, you know, he really
would have gone down as his stats have been incredible,

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but you know, his stats were unbelievable, nine straight Pro Bowls. Again,
he retired before he was thirty years old, at the
peak of his career, so that you know, he was
kind of the standard bearer. I mean there was when
you think of who was the second best running back
in the nineteen sixties, you have to think a minute,
because he was obviously the best.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, I was. I guess it's going to be we
could have some disputed categories here because I had the
exact same thing nineteen sixties NFL and to me, not
just for what he did on the field, but you know,
just embodying the night, maybe embodying the nineteen sixties in America.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Joe Nama, that's my big but you're going to go arna, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, Leroy Kelly second made Joe like I
like I said, you know, name it. On the field,
of course, he did have the one the great sixty
eight season, went to the Super Bowl and had a
couple of really good years on the field, but he
was more I guess impact across the board, uh, you know,

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in the nineteen sixties and thinkyeah. Of course played his
college ball in the nineteen sixties as well, so.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
He dominated America. Greg Yeah, for real, I mean he
liked that guy. That guy was super super famous for sure.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
And again some of his uh, some of his apex
was in the nineteen seventies obviously, with you know, his
television comer and that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
I'm going to go, I think this is our first female.
Here we are in the midst of maybe two straight
decades of domination by Simone Biles. She's got eleven Olympic medals,
thirty World championships. Her run has been going on now
for more than a decade, all the way back to
twenty thirteen. She was the US national gymnastics champion, and

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since then she has been for all of the for
all the teens, twenty teens, and even now she may
be headed toward dominating this decade as well. Simone Biles
and Olympic gymnastics for sure. All right, Chris, let's do
we're doing dominated a decade like Pete Rose who just.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Passed away, well, you know, the big soccer fan, So sure,
I'm going to go with the nineteen sixties in play.
Although he came to America in the seventies and that's
when he kind of are are you?

Speaker 2 (13:00):
You know, it harkens back to a previous category when
you call him, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
What country was he from? What country was he from?

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Yeah yeah, Brazil?

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Brazil?

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah he said it was from Brazil.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
But uh, Paley was you know, he came to the
seventh to America the seventies and probably became more popular
in this country then, although that was uh kind of
towards the end of his career most certainly, but during
the sixties, again, not just being the greatest soccer player ever,
and there was zero question about that, but he kind

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of became known as more than being kind of bigger,
uh than this sport. I mean, but you know during
that time. It started in the fifties, but then the
sixties and then somewhat in the seventies. During the sixties,
I mean, the World Cups everything, it was Pele and
everybody else.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yep, everybody loved him from Brazil, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Uh, kind of like some of the others in this
not just in the sports world or the world of
sport as we like to say. There was no more
famous person in the world in the nineteen seventies in
the Muhammad Ali. You know, obviously his boxing, you know,
dominated the sport of boxing at that time, but you know,

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just his worldwide impact, you know, because of his religion,
was famous all over the world. You know, So I
got Muhammad Ali.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
The first superstar of the NBA or of professional basketball
was George Miken. George Miken was a superstar. He won
seven championships including whatever the leagues were before there was
an NBA, seven championships in nine years, NBA All Star Game, MVP,

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three scoring titles. Played in the first four NBA All
Star Games. And here's your trivia. You guys can order
out if you know it two rule changes because of
George Mikeen. What two rule changes were implemented because of
the big man, George Mikeen. And that's the clue that
he's the big man.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Shorts could no longer have built that.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
No, of course, not that that continued until by junior year, Craig. No,
that's not it. That's not it.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Lane was one of them.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
That is exactly right. That's one. The other is what we.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Talk no dunk no dunking.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
The he because of him, they started outlawing goaltending. Yeah.
But but but Chris got the main one, which was
the widening of the lane, which obviously had to do
with three seconds. But both those two things because of
the NBA's first superstar, Big George Mikeen. So there you go, Chris,
what do you got? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (15:54):
This this sport is kind of harder to dominate by
one person. But I think if anybody did it was
the two thousands and Tiger Woods and golf. I mean, uh,
this is with anybody close to him. He won three
PGA championships, uh, three Masters, three US Opens and three
British Open championships just during the two thousand and two

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thousand and ten and he won. He won a couple
of outside of that decade as well, but I mean
he was just by far away from being the best offer.
And you know he uh. And because of that decade,
everybody thought, well, he's a shoe in to break Jack
Nix's record for the majors. It didn't happen for lots
of reasons we don't have to get into now. But
during the during the two thousands, he was easily the

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most dominant golfer.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
To that decade.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
It might be the winner of the category. That's I mean,
that's as good answer as you come up with, Craig.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Uh. You know, college sports, it's harder to do because
this career is so much shorter obviously, and even shorter
now because guy's going to stay all four years. But
I think if you're talking about the two thousands in
college football, I think team's Tim Tebow is the or
something that kind of best embodies that won a Heisman Trophy,
won two national championships, was famous outside of his sport,

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and again stayed all four years. So I'll put Tim
Tebow up there in college football.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Well, I will fast forward to the next decade, and
there's no question that the dominant figure in college football
is Nicholas lou Sabin at Alabama. I was looking at
the record for the decade of the of the twenty tens,
and if you go from like I was trying to
figure out a way to not use the twenty ten
season when they only won ten games, that shows you

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how dominant they were from eleven to twenty. They won
one hundred and twenty seven games over ten years, which
is just ludicrous. But even if you include starting in
twenty ten when they won ten games, just an incredible
run and that entire decade, there was not a lull
for the entire decade for Nick Saban at Alabama in

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college football. All right, Chris, we are doing like Pete Grose,
somebody who dominated a decade in sports.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
What you got? Yeah, and again you used one earlier.
But it's harder to dominate when you're an Olympic athlete simps,
because they only come around every four years. But Carl
Lewis in the nineteen eighties was about as dominant as
you can get. I mean that starting with the eighty
four Olympics where he won four gold medals. Obviously, you
know in gym national's a little bit different because they're

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somewhat related. But you know he wins them in spinding
and long jump, which is pretty pretty different. And then
there's the same thing, wins two more in Seoul, but
was just again, you know, in track and field, there
was nobody that dominated it like you did in the
in the both World World Championships, but certainly in the
Olympic Games in the nineteen eighties. Yep.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah, I'll go back to golf, and I think if
you would, you know, the nineteen sixties, it's got to
be Arnold Palmer obviously, you know, kind of took golf
and made it a a kind of a nast phenomenon
more so than anybody had done up to that point,
and became famous away from the course as well. Now, obviously,

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you know he won some in the nineteen fifties and
the nineteen seventies as well, but he won the majority
of his championships in the sixties. He won the Masters
three times in four years, won the PGA Championship twice,
won the British Open two years in a row, and
won the US Open as well. So Arnold Palmer nineteen sixties.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
I'm going Roger Federer in tennis. Now, he won his
last major in twenty eighteen, but let's don't worry about that.
He dominated the first decade of this century. So his championship,
it's incredible when you think about just that decade, he
won four Australian Opens, one French Open, six Wimbledon's and

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five US Opens just between two thousand and two thousand
and nine. Roger Feeder. Now, other guys came along, and
you know, the Doll was great, and you know Djokovic
after that, but in the two thousands, from two thousand
and twenty ten, Roger Feedder, you couldn't be more dominant
than that guy was. That is my choice, Roger Feederer.

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All right, Chris, what you got?

Speaker 4 (20:19):
Well, this this run got set up at the very
end December twenty sixth, nineteen nineteen, when his contract was
so New Or Yankees in the nineteen twenties, and he
was very good with Red Sox. Baby Ruth was in
the in the teens, I guess. But when you're talking
about dominating, I mean in the nineteen twenties, Babe Ruth
with the New York Yankees, I mean, uh, just I

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mean he he you know, he had more home runs
than certain teams had. I mean, it was just you know,
the difference in him and any other player that era
was unbelievable. Not to mention the pitching, which you know
we hear a lot of now with Otani, but when
Babe Ruth did it back then, when nobody else was
doing it, and again kind of bigger than life. I mean,
the Bay Ruth. And that's a different time obviously, one

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hundred years ago. But you know the old joke about
you know, why did you make more money than the president? Well,
I had it bet a year. I mean, just that
kind of whole Pasana the day Ruth went out in
carousing and all that, and then still showing up the
ball parking hit home runs. The legend of it, and
I do wonder sometimes, you know, is it was it
like that in the twenties or do we make more

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of it now? You know, none of us were allowed
to see bab utes play obviously, but you know, is
the legend kind of build that up? But even if
it did, it didn't Baby Ruth. And I mean at
that time was bigger than the sports certainly.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, there were just so many sports to follow, you know,
and so baseball I just think was just way outside
compared to what we can kind of grasp, you know.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah, for sure, I'm gonna this is a different sport,
one we have not done yet. But from January twenty third,
nineteen eighty four till February fifth, nineteen eighty eight, Hulk
ho was the w W World Heavyweight Champion. He held
it the Wreck. He reigned for fourteen hundred and seventy

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four consecutive days, four days longer than the previous record
holder by Backland. So we're gonna go with Hulk Hogan.
And again one of that you know, obviously, you know,
say what you want about wrestling, but Hulk Hogan was
one of most famous people in the world during that time.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, he definitely was. Brother all right, man.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Wait a minute, is this is the Randy Kennedy Share
the whole Cosy show? I thought that was the.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
I'm gonna go with a guy that also hearkening back
to a recent list for Chris you don't know how
to spell his name, uh, Mike Skushski in the nineteen
nineties for college basketball. Look, they started out the nineties
by winning the national championship the first two years in
ninety and or you know, the actual tournament was in
ninety one in ninety two, but in those years they

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won the national championship. They also had a year in
the decade where they made the final game. They had
three of those in the decade, and then they had
a couple more where they you know, where they actually
got all the way to the final four. So I'm
going with Mike Skizhski in the nineteen nineties. Of course
he was good after that, but terrible before that. But

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Mike Skiesski from Duke Hi, Chris, what you got.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
You know, this may be cheating a little bit, but
I think you have to pay them together. The dominance
that Magic Johnson and Larry Bird, I mean, I was
thinking against each other is what made it great dur
in the nineteen eighties. I mean they won eighty through
eighty two. I think they won together eight of the
of the ten championships during that decade and seven MBP

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championships doing just between the two of them, and it's
almost equally split. I mean, you can't think of one
without the other. And obviously people I think also forget
just how bad the NBA was in the nineteen seventies
before they revitalized it. I mean, it was drug riddled
and just it was terrible. And so you know, maybe

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maybe you know an asterisk because you have to put
them together because they were both about, you know, in
different ways, in very different ways, you know, about as
good as the other one was. But together they I mean,
as far as they say that they saved the NBA,
but without question, they rebuilt it back up.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
To what it is now, I would agree. No, I think, yeah,
I don't think that's going too far. I think maybe
they did save the NBA.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Yeah, for sure. And I had that. I had them
together too. I couldn't pick between the two, so I
was going to introduce them as a tandem as well. Yeah,
you know, you've got the category. Inspirations for the category
is Tete Rose in the nineteen seventies in baseball, but
I'm not certain he's number one. It might be Reggie Jackson.
Reggie Jackson, you know, they're in separate league, so maybe

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you can say one as the American League and one
of the National League if you want to do it
that way. But Reggie Jackson won five World Series in
the nineteen seventies, three with Oakland, two with the Yankees.
Obviously the first you know, superstar free agent. He was
the MVP of the World Series twice. He was MVP
of the American League in nineteen seventy three, actually the
same year Pete Rose was the MVP of the of

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the National League. Was an All Star nine out of
ten years in nineteen seventy was not in seventy six,
which is the year he was traded from Oakland to Baltimore.
That one weird year he spent with the Orioles. But
Reggie Jackson basedball in the nineteen seventies again one of
those people, and you know, I kind of came became
kind of conscious in the late seventies of culture, I

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would say, and to me, Reggie Jackson, Muhammad al Lei
were the most famous people in the world to me
when I was a little kid.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
That's a good call. Yep. How about this is a
guy who dominated swimming, but you could say he dominated
the Summer Olympic in the UH in the twenty tens.
That's Michael Felts, Michael Phelps, who is now a big
Michigan Wolverine guy. But uh, you talk about a dominant,
dominating guy, I mean he was you know he was
over all the Great Olympians and uh dominated that whole

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decade and what twenty eight medals in total, twenty three gold.
Just completely dominating for Michael Felts, including dominating a decade,
which is the category, Chris, what'd you got?

Speaker 4 (26:28):
Yeah, this one, I think some of the problems I had,
but this one was figuring out which decade to pick.
But Serena Williams, I think has scored the two thousands.
She was dominanting the in the teams, I guess as well.
But you know, starting in the I think her first
title was the two thousand and two French Open, as
far as in that decade, and then she I mean
she won Wimbeds, she went. I mean she's on and on.

(26:50):
It was not that it was not that close. I
mean never was that close to her for a very
long time. And again into you know, I would say
that mid took out in fifteen sixteen like that. But
I think, I mean, she just I mean, she just don't.
Including her sister and everybody else that camp against her,
she was by far away the best attends, winmen stints

(27:11):
player in the world.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah. The the interesting thing with her is I remember
you know, when she kind of came into being and
her sister, as you mentioned, Venus was already a big star,
and then it was like, well, Serena might end up
being better, and it's like, no, really, that is that possible?
And absolutely it turned out to be the truth. Yeah, well,
here's what I want to crowd source this one with you.

(27:36):
Two guys, who do you think who is the dominant
NFL figure in the nineteen eighties. Is it Joe Montana
or is it Lawrence Taylor or is it somebody else?
You know, you know, Montana did win the four Super Bowls,
whereas LT won two, and one of them was in
the nineteen nineties at nineteen ninety actually, But you know,

(27:57):
they both revolutionized the game, dominated the game. Lawrence Taylor
obviously created the edge rusher position, whereas Joe Montana, you know,
helped create the West Coast offense. And the forty nine
ers certainly were the signature team of the eighties. So
you know, I had a hard time picking between those two.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
I guess, you know, probably I would say, Craig that
the better football player was Lawrence Taylor. The better answer
for the category is Montana. That's my answer.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Well, probably that sounds right.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
If you use take my bowl as a tiebreaker, I
can tell you who's gonna be win that one.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Jack. There was a cheat in Techmobile, and you guys
probably knew it that if you lined up in the
right place you could block the extra point every single time.
With Lawrence Taylor, you just had to take the right
angle to the to the ball and you could block
it every single time.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
That's good. That's I'm gonna go with a tennis of
the nineteen seventies. Trust me, I lived it because I
was a big fan. Beyond Borg won the French Open
four times and Wimbledon four times in the nineteen seventies,
and so beyond Borg, of course he was. It had
some great colorful challengers like John McEnroe and Jimmy Connor

(29:18):
and Arthur Ash, all three Americans. But beyond Borg four
French and four Wimbledon's on two very different surfaces. I
will go with Beyon Borg in the seventies. Plus he
had good hair. So there you go, all right, Chris,
what you got dominated a decade in sports.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
Well. Growing up in the nineteen eighties in Boston, Georgia,
and my dad had a room in our house where
he watched his movies, watched sports whatever. He had pictured
three guys he had mairried most Waylon Jennings, John Wayne
and Dale Earnhardt. And I think during that time in
the other guys won. Richard Pitty won more races. Richard
Pitty Gimmy Johnson tidy for the number of championships he won.

(29:58):
But if you were on the last lap at Daytona
or Caliday or wherever, and you ask the driver who
do you not want to see in your rearview mirror,
they would have all said there or heart. And so
I think, again, great race car drivers of because of
what his persona was making bigger than the sport. I'll
go with the intimidator.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
And as the old joke goes, mister Beckham taught Chris
how to count one, two, Earnhart four five, Chris.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
I will not deny that.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Greg.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Uh, yeah, well, it doesn't get much better than winning
nine championships in ten years of a particular decade and
winning five MVP Awards and making the All Star team
every single year. But that's where we are. With Bill
Russell in the nineteen sixties. Yeah, he also, uh you know,
won two champion was it two championship as a coach

(30:54):
as well? Uh so, you know Bill Russell obviously, you
know the NBA was not it's competitive at that point
time than it as it is you know would be
in the seventies and eighties and beyond. But you know,
you don't dominate your sport much more than than Bill
Russell did back then.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, he was better than George Miken, though George Michaen
wasn't the guy he had to beat though as the
superstar of the NBA. I mean, it's true, but he
did surpass that. He did for sure. All Right, I'm
gonna do a I know this is supposed to be
an individual but I can't break up the team members
of the US women's soccer team, which again, this is
like you know, if you're talking about World Cup or Olympics,

(31:37):
you know you don't get that many chances at it,
but you know when you went in four, eight and twelve,
that's kind of you know, you're dominating that decade and beyond.
I will go with that, even though we really haven't
been doing teams. But I will just do that for
my for my last one. All right, Chris, what else
you got.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Well, Tom Brady dominated you know what decade he went
who Bolson in the two thousand or the only what
doesn't Halts or whatever you call those, And then the
teams as well. I kind of get Peyton Manning, I
guess the first part. But Tom Brady just for that run,
whatever decades you want to put him in. I mean,
it was just, you know, every year he was the
I mean I say he the Patriots with him leading

(32:18):
the way, you know, you just thought, Okay, how's somebody
got beat them. It's not, you know, it's never wide
open as long as the Patriots and everybody else a
little bit like the Chiefs are now with Patrick Mahomes.
But certainly, I mean I think you have to throw
he and maybe he slashed Belichick in there, although when
you know, when Brady left, he wonted the championship. Belichick
didn't come close.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
So I like it. Traig Gosy.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Yet, Yeah, in the nineteen fifties, every year except for
one now, every year I believe there was a team
from one of the three New York Baseball teams was
in the World Series Yankees, Dodgers, or the Giants, and

(33:02):
the signature players for each were their center fielders. So
I'm going to give it a group group Willie Mickey
and the Duke dominating the nineteen fifties.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
We're talking baseball.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yes we are Terry Cashman and beyond it.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
If get you pick up on that I should have
had I should have had that time underneath you given
the answer? Yeah, that's good stuff. All right? All right,
y'all think what's the winner? What do you think the
winner is?

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Let's see Gretzky, Jordan, Ali, Hulk Cogan. I mean, how
do you pick?

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, I know, Chris, which one did you say? I
said might be the best one? I don't remember?

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Oh, Tiger Tiger Woods?

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah, Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan? Who y'all going for?

Speaker 3 (33:45):
And yeah, I mean and Babe Ruth would be up
there too, but yeah, Woods, I mean, he basically made
the sport, you know, popular across the country.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yep. So we'll give him a runner up to this.

Speaker 6 (33:58):
Guy because all you guys, thank you scholarship worthy.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
You know who holds that key? How do you think
holds that key?

Speaker 5 (34:06):
Then me, there you go, that's the answer. Rush Propes
and the Hoover Buck. No that's not the answer, but Anyway, guys,
we appreciate it. Chris Beckham, Craig steveson, I'm Randy Kennedy listener, Chris.
We do it every week here on Sports Talk ninety
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especially the Rily Mickey and the Duke.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Well case.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
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